Will the crisis in Ukraine affect the military-technical cooperation between Russia and Europe?

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Will the crisis in Ukraine affect the military-technical cooperation between Russia and Europe?


TSAMTO, 11 March. In connection with the events in Ukraine, European states estimate what the introduction of economic sanctions against Russia, including in the sphere of military-technical cooperation, can do to them.

According to "Difens News" with reference to one of the leading experts of the European Council on Foreign Relations, Nick Whitney, despite the harsh rhetoric, the "punitive" measures of Europe are strictly limited. In his opinion, the restrictive nature of these measures reflects concerns about the possibility of serious economic losses due to the introduction of full-scale sanctions against the Russian Federation, including in the sphere of military-technical cooperation.

In particular, in recent years France has signed the most important agreements with the Russian Federation in the field of defense supplies and maintains close ties with the Russian defense industry.

The Mistral-class contract for the construction of amphibious-command ship-docks (Batiment de Projection et de Commandement - BPC) was concluded in the 2011 year. It provides for the delivery to Russia of two Mistral-class BPC ships, their maintenance and the provision of various services, including initial material support, personnel training and technology transfer. The contract amount is 1,2 billion euros.

As part of the contract, DCNS, acting as a work manager, performs the construction of buildings and the integration of control and communication systems. Construction is carried out at the enterprise "STX France" in Saint-Nazaire.

In Saint-Nazaire 5 March, the first running tests of the lead ship of the Vladivostok series began. French President Francois Hollande during the European summit, said that France is in compliance with the signed contracts and the agreement remains in force. The first BPC is to be delivered to Russia in October 2014 of the year. The second ship is scheduled to be transferred in 2015 year.

In addition, France actively proposes the Russian law enforcement agencies PVP (Petitéuleule Protege) and VBL (Vehicule Blinde Leger) armored vehicles, several copies of which, according to the "Difens News", were recently sent to the Russian Federation for testing. A company representative denies that the equipment is intended for the armed forces. According to Renault Trucks Differences, it would take Russia about 10 years to create a VBL-type vehicle. Therefore, buying them in France is more expedient. Intelligence machine is equipped with a more powerful engine and enhanced armor. If an agreement is reached, the Russian Federation may receive several hundred BBM of this type.

Earlier, TSAMTO reported that since 2011, the French company Panar (now the Renault Trucks Differences division) has been negotiating the sale of 3,1-ton light BBM VBL with the wheel formula 4 X4 for Russian border troops. The cost of the agreement providing for the supply of up to 500 BBM was estimated at that time in 200 million euros (260 million dollars).

In October, at the Interpolitex-2013 exhibition, the French company Renault Trucks Difenz and the Russian CJSC ASTEYS presented the project of the ASTAIS-VBL lightweight floating armored car, which is supposed to be produced in Russia. According to the statement of the Executive Director of CJSC ASTEIS V. Babayev, the localization of production was planned to begin in 2013. At the first stage, the Russian side intended to supply the housing, wiring and dashboard. It was planned to manufacture an experimental batch of machines in the middle of the year and hand over to the units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for testing, and then make a decision on mass production.

Thales has also entered into a number of contracts for the supply of equipment to Russia. According to the representative of the company, most of the business is focused on the civilian sector. In the military segment, Tales has launched production in Russia of equipment for a laser target designation container, tanks T-90, Ka-52 helicopters and Su-30 fighters.

Safran Group has been operating in Russia for over 20 years, supplying aviation and helicopter engines, optoelectronic systems and navigation systems. So, the company supplies engines for Ka-226T and Ka-62 helicopters. Sazhem (a Safran division), specializing in the development and manufacture of military systems and equipment, has been providing Russian industry with thermal imagers for a long period of time. In the field of navigation systems, Safran supplies laser gyroscopes to Ramenskoye Instrument-Making Design Bureau OJSC for their subsequent integration into Russian fighters.

At the end of 2011, Sazhem together with its Russian partners, Rosoboronexport OJSC and Technocomplex Inertial Technologies CJSC (a subsidiary of RPBK OJSC), established a joint venture called RS Alliance with the goal of developing, manufacturing and servicing ring laser gyroscopes in Russia. The new company RS Alliance has already developed the LINS-100PC inertial navigation system, the production of which began at the end of 2012.

In November 2013, Sazhem and Uralvagonzavod Research and Production Corporation OJSC signed an agreement on strategic partnership providing for the production of optical-electronic equipment and other high-tech products of the French company for installation on armored vehicles of the UVZ corporation.

According to "Difens News", Germany was the first to announce the suspension of sales permits weapons to Russia, however, this measure is purely virtual, since, according to the Ministry of Economy and Energy, Berlin did not export weapons to the Russian Federation. However, the list of authorized equipment for sale includes some kind of “protected all-terrain vehicle” and electronic equipment.

According to the contract signed by Rosoboronservis OJSC in 2011, the company Rheinmetall, the cost of which was 100 million euros, builds a combat training center for the Russian Ground Forces at the Mulino landfill (Nizhny Novgorod region).

In a statement released by 7 in March, Reinmetall reported that it was fulfilling its obligations to its Russian partner. The project is at the final stage and the center should be put into operation in the current year. In the statement, "Rheinmetall" noted that the company highly appreciates its prospects in the Russian market.

The UK has previously approved several licenses for the export to the Russian Federation of components for military equipment, intended primarily for Russian security forces. London is currently considering the possibility of cancellation or suspension.

Italy has already felt the change in the procurement strategy of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, with a shift towards the national producer. Of the 358 planned for delivery of multipurpose BBM "Lynx" Italian "Iveco", assembled and ready for operation only 57 units. However, they are stored and not used. Another 126 armored vehicles delivered to the Russian Federation in incomplete configuration.
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  1. +6
    13 March 2014 09: 23
    As our president said, Russia's sanctions may not necessarily be mirrored.
    1. +4
      13 March 2014 09: 56
      Quote: Duke
      As our president said, Russia's sanctions may not necessarily be mirrored.

      Recall its oligarchs from London and instead of Courchevel they will rest in Sochi?
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        +6
        13 March 2014 11: 46
        For starters, it eliminates dollar assets, then the nationalization of everything foreign is in the Russian Federation, then the reorientation to the east in terms of resources and in terms of trade. And all ajes.
      2. The comment was deleted.
    2. AVV
      0
      15 March 2014 10: 53
      Quote: Duke
      As our president said, Russia's sanctions may not necessarily be mirrored.

      It was always clear that when cooperating with the West, we will be dependent on them, we need to focus on our manufacturer !!! And pursue our independent policy. And not written for us in Washington !!! Look at the European Union, there were no independent countries and will not be !!!
  2. +7
    13 March 2014 09: 24
    Russia today is quite capable of providing itself with military equipment of its own production. "European partners" are interested in purchases much more than Russia. So the shipyards in Saint-Nazaire were threatened with closure with subsequent layoffs of thousands of workers. The construction of the Mistrals for our country has become a real lifeline for them.
    1. +3
      13 March 2014 09: 55
      Quote: Bongo
      Today, Russia is quite capable of providing itself with military equipment of its own production.

      The question is no longer in technology, but in equipment, technologies, materials and software. Or do you naively believe that composite materials for PAK-FA are made on the machines of OAO "Boring Machine Plant" Ivanovo, and materials for them are supplied by OOO "Khimplast" Ufa?
      1. +7
        13 March 2014 10: 13
        Quote: Nayhas
        Do you naively believe that composite materials for PAK-FA are made on the machines of OAO "Boring Machine Plant" Ivanovo, and materials for them are supplied by OOO "Khimplast" Ufa?

        No, I'm not so naive, and I know, for example, where carbon fiber is purchased for the production of "Topol". For this, in addition to the "West", there are India and China.
        But the article is not about this, but about the supply of finished models of equipment and weapons.
        1. +2
          13 March 2014 10: 44
          Quote: Bongo
          But the article is not about this, but about the supply of finished models of equipment and weapons

          Do you think that this will be limited? Arms sanctions are just the beginning. Remember the Jackson-Vanik amendment ...
          1. +4
            13 March 2014 11: 12
            Not those times, have they imposed many sanctions against China? Although they violate "human rights" and steal technology. It may happen that the introduction of sanctions will stimulate the development of its own scientific and industrial base.
            1. +2
              13 March 2014 11: 47
              Quote: Bongo
              Not those times, have they imposed many sanctions against China? Although they violate "human rights" and steal technologies.

              Otherwise, you don’t know that China has been sanctioned for the sale of weapons and technology for the shooting of students in Tiananmen Square. Therefore, the PRC buys weapons from Russia and Ukraine, as they did not join the sanctions. Openly buy modern weapons and related technologies China really wants a sea of ​​money, but cannot, therefore "Only theft, Shura!"
              1. +1
                13 March 2014 11: 57
                Are these sanctions preventing the PRC from developing? And in the "west" they have already regretted 100 times that they were introduced.
                1. +3
                  13 March 2014 12: 54
                  Quote: Bongo
                  Do these sanctions prevent China from developing?

                  Militarily, yes.
                  Quote: Bongo
                  And in the "west" they have already regretted 100 times that they were introduced.

                  And what is it to regret when there is India and the Middle East?
          2. +1
            13 March 2014 11: 55
            Sanctions work well only if all or almost all of them apply. Even when Iran turned west, Iran tightened its belts a bit, but did not go bankrupt, because oil was bought by countries that did not support sanctions.

            With materials and technology is still more difficult. Firstly, those companies that go on sanctions will lose money. Secondly, countries and companies that do not go for sanctions will be able to use various schemes for deliveries to a country that is subject to sanctions.

            And in general, crushing sanctions is too exaggerated today, because the global economy and the falling bricks from it - ruin the entire building.
            1. +1
              13 March 2014 12: 56
              Quote: donavi49
              Even when Iran turned west, Iran tightened its belts a bit, but did not go bankrupt, because oil was bought by countries that did not support sanctions.

              And then Iran backtracked on the nuclear program. Do you think Ayatollah just mood improved?
            2. poccinin
              +3
              13 March 2014 13: 32
              trade through third countries. business is business.
    2. apollo
      +1
      13 March 2014 19: 44
      it is impossible for a country like Russia to be dependent on foreign producers, especially if it concerns defense capability ...
  3. +5
    13 March 2014 09: 27
    If the Mistrals are not delivered, in the next 15-20 years there will be no defense contracts with them! Plus, the money will also have to be returned! We’ll build it ourselves somehow, it’s a pity for the lost time! Well, we will have to fire 5000 workers in France, God grant them health for rallies and protests! And all these Italians and "other Swedes" are trifles for the Russian military-industrial complex! They clean up our competitors with their own hands !!! Our "Tigers" are cooler than "Lynx"! Want to check it out? Try check !!!
    1. +4
      13 March 2014 09: 58
      Quote: fregina1
      If the Mistrals are not delivered, in the next 15-20 years there will be no defense contracts with them! Plus, the money will also have to be returned!

      Money in such cases is not returned, and equipment is confiscated. This is a global practice.
      1. ReifA
        0
        13 March 2014 16: 04
        In this case, it is worth recalling the Renault-Nissan concern and confiscating its property a little in Russia, this is offhand.
  4. Ahmed Osmanov
    +3
    13 March 2014 10: 38
    Good day!
    I think the EU will not give up military-technical cooperation. Despite all the disagreements, in particular, at the moment in Ukraine, there is no consensus in the EU about imposing sanctions even in the economic and tourism spheres, and there is no need to talk about military-technical sanctions. The first ship of the Mistral project is already ready and the French will not allow it under any sanctions. hi
    1. Alexey Prikazchikov
      -1
      13 March 2014 11: 48
      If the EU imposes sanctions, this will entail an answer. Moreover, such an answer that over the next 50 years will make Europe very poor for 700 years.
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  5. +5
    13 March 2014 10: 41
    According to Difens News, Germany was the first to announce the suspension of permits for the sale of weapons to Russia, but this measure is purely virtual, because, according to the Ministry of Economy and Energy, Berlin did not export weapons to the Russian Federation.

    The author forgot to indicate that the factory for the production of composite materials for aviation built in Kazan is equipped with the German company FACC AG. Here is a list of companies that participated in the competition for the supply of equipment for the composite plant in Ulyanovsk: BROTJE-Automation GmbH, Comau France, Fischer Composit, ThyssenKrupp Krause GmbH, Diamond Aircraft Industries GmbH, MAG Cincinnati.
    Because composite materials are dual-use products, then the delivery of spare parts will also fall under sanctions parts, materials and software of these factories. There is something to lose ...
  6. 0
    13 March 2014 13: 01
    Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov
    If the EU imposes sanctions, this will entail an answer. Moreover, such an answer that over the next 50 years will make Europe very poor for 700 years.


    And you can throw caps at them, they will suddenly get scared ... Unfortunately, our losses will be incomparably greater.
    1. poccinin
      +5
      13 March 2014 13: 46
      Let's wait and see. RUSSIA needs a shake-up so that everyone wakes up and starts working. This is carte blanche to ask harshly from the directors of factories.fabrik.farmers .- "WHY DO YOU GREAT GRAIN STORAGE IS NOT PREPARED FOR HARVESTING? MONACO. SEND TO SIBERIA. To the mines. To appoint another manager. To the governor. Warning otherwise it will go there.
  7. wanderer_032
    +3
    13 March 2014 13: 12
    Will the crisis in Ukraine affect the military-technical cooperation between Russia and Europe?
    Of course it will. Of course, they will work out their money. But what will we get in return?
    Normal modern technology or "pig in a poke", that is the question.
    In general, all these shipbuildings abroad, the purchase of other imported military equipment (with the exception of single samples or small lots, for study) is a near and very dangerous step, especially for those samples where electronic components and systems are located.
    According to experts in the field of IT, such devices (or programs) are very difficult to detect and neutralize (if this can be done without partial or complete damage to the performance of electronic components and devices).
    Where is the guarantee that there weren’t mounted any devices that allow you to pinpoint the location of the object and transmit data via an encoded radio signal.
    Or in the event of a military conflict with the manufacturing country, the entire electronic system will not burn out, or will it not be cut down after receiving such a signal?
    And money for all this is considerable. And this despite the fact that everything necessary for its armed forces, Russia can produce itself.
    And while in the production of civilian equipment imported components, assemblies and electronics is a normal phenomenon, in the production of military equipment this is unacceptable.
    Unacceptable for very reasonable reasons.
  8. +3
    13 March 2014 13: 21
    Quote: Nayhas
    Militarily, yes.

    The armed forces of China are the most dynamically developing in the world, apparently this is the result of sanctions.
    1. 0
      13 March 2014 20: 51
      Quote: Bongo
      The armed forces of China are the most dynamically developing in the world, apparently this is the result of sanctions.

      With access to advanced military technology, the Chinese would gallop even further. And so all the bikes have to be invented by ourselves. They still have a problem with hydroacoustics, radar with AFAR, jet engines, high-power marine gas turbines and much more. China, like India, cannot buy the best weapons with localization of production at home, they have to peep, steal, guess ...
  9. +1
    13 March 2014 15: 10
    I always think that we can’t leave no documentation for scientists who are not engineers in such a setup in Ukraine, we urgently need to provide the citizenship of Russia worthy of the salary, and the opportunity to evacuate everyone with their families in Russia, rocket wreck, tank wreck, aircraft wreck, etc. I think people of labor and high technology do not mind feeling worthy and without fear for life to continue to create high-quality technology, then these bastards will end up at the root. Americans will take the necessary work to take everything else apart, how do you think it’s possible to do it!
  10. 0
    13 March 2014 17: 38
    According to Renault Trucks Defense, it would take Russia about 10 years to create a VBL-type technique. Therefore, buying them in France is more appropriate. The reconnaissance vehicle is equipped with a more powerful engine and enhanced armor. If an agreement is reached, the Russian Federation may receive several hundred BBM of this type.
    But what is this ?! I did not understand the couple belay Wunderwafel is not expensive for me either ....
  11. +4
    13 March 2014 17: 46
    Actually, I was against the Mistral, I believed that without aircraft carriers and the corresponding naval group, they are just big floating targets. and here I look they are not yet built, but already carry out the function of deterring, at least France from rash steps laughing
  12. +1
    13 March 2014 18: 01
    According to Renault Trucks Defense, it would take Russia about 10 years to create a VBL-type technique. Therefore, buying them in France is more appropriate.

    And why do we need these troughs?
    Country user: Benin, Botswana, Cambodia, Cameroon, Djibouti, France, Gabon, Greece, Indonesia, Kuwait, Oman, Mexico, Niger, Nigeria, Portugal, Qatar, Rwanda, Togo, etc. Georgia uses VBL in Afghanistan.

    Of course, we do not have our own facilities for the production of such equipment! Why are we worse than such mighty powers as Benin or Togo? Let Renault continue to crack.
  13. 0
    13 March 2014 18: 13
    European businessmen supplying arms for export to the Russian Federation for their profits will gnaw a throat to those who try to cancel the contract. Talking about political sanctions is one thing, and where there is money, there is another.
  14. MAKSAK
    +1
    13 March 2014 18: 19
    Good evening! Let's hope that such a step to acquire the Mistral amphibious command ships-docks for the RF Armed Forces will be justified and they will not become an unnecessary and unnecessary ballast for the Navy.
  15. apollo
    +1
    13 March 2014 19: 42
    I have always been against the purchase of weapons abroad, it would be better if this money were invested in my military commissar ...
    1. +1
      13 March 2014 21: 18
      Quote: apollo
      I have always been against the purchase of weapons abroad, it would be better if this money were invested in my military commissar ...

      The share of costs for the purchase of ready-made systems is not large, the main costs go to the purchase of equipment. Without modern equipment, our military-industrial complex is capable of producing weapons only at the level of the 80s. The Shvabe holding produces Thales Optronics thermal imagers not using our equipment, UAC has reequipped almost all of its factories with foreign machines, two factories for the production of composite materials have been completely purchased in Europe, USC is the same. Do not delude yourself that once the equipment is purchased, then there are no problems, without proper maintenance, spare parts, software updates, it will stoke and turn into useless hardware. Therefore, the embargo can put a bold cross on our ambitions for rearmament.
  16. +1
    13 March 2014 21: 42
    Military-technical cooperation between Europe and Russia ??? It’s like in a joke:
    “Hey, why are you drinking this dirty water from the lake? Govnostok comes out of the whole village!”
    - What did you say?
    - I say: scoop with two hands!
  17. 0
    14 March 2014 01: 50
    Quote: apollo
    I have always been against the purchase of weapons abroad, it would be better if this money were invested in my military commissar ...

    their shipyards are all loaded up on the stick, plus this introduction to tsuzu technologies

    Quote: kafa
    According to Renault Trucks Defense, it would take Russia about 10 years to create a VBL-type technique. Therefore, buying them in France is more appropriate. The reconnaissance vehicle is equipped with a more powerful engine and enhanced armor. If an agreement is reached, the Russian Federation may receive several hundred BBM of this type.
    But what is this ?! I didn’t understand Chota too, it’s not expensive for me to wonder…


    We are talking about the Vehicule Blinde Leger (VBL, translated from French - light armored car), developed in the mid-1980-ies. The basic model has a length of 3,8 meters, a width of 2 meters, a height of 1,7 meters, a weight of up to 4 tons, a crew of two to four people. As weapons can be installed machine guns, ATGM Milan or SAM Mistral. The thickness of the armor is 5-11 millimeters, which gives protection against bullets of the caliber 7,62 millimeters, hand grenades and fragments. In total, about 2,3 thousands of vehicles for the armies of 17 states were produced. The price of the car is about 230-280 thousand euros.
  18. +2
    14 March 2014 02: 38
    Quote: Nayhas
    China, like India, cannot buy the best weapons with localization of production at home, they have to peep, steal, guess ...

    It is surprising that you equated our country with India and the PRC. How did we manage to confront the United States on an equal footing during the Cold War? Or did Europe help us too?
    It would be a desire and political will, and we are able to provide ourselves with our weapons. Although of course there will be no such kickbacks as on foreign orders.
  19. 0
    14 March 2014 05: 39
    and you dear friend, forgot to indicate that we will identify a hole in their defense
  20. 0
    15 March 2014 00: 15
    And let's get Sarkozy back in France. I liked him more - a specific man - what to blot out on the air, what to put on a photo mandel ........
    It’s ridiculous. ......
    The fact is that Europe is not one whole, and they never will be - they all need pieces of cake too different: France - contracts with Russia, Germany - gas, Poland - Western Belarus and it is desirable (to be honest) with Lithuania and Latvia to the heap, Romania Besarabia all and a little more. therefore, Europe is bullshit. Here's a booze, it's another thing. They and JAVROPE will give a hell to the planted vector, and what other dirty trick will they invent ......