The pace of creation of the Brazilian spaceport due to the events in Ukraine is slowing

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The pace of creation of the Brazilian spaceport due to the events in Ukraine is slowing

The crisis in Ukraine threatens the implementation of the creation of a cosmodrome in Alcantara (Centro de Lançamento de Alcântara - CLA, Brazil, has already spent about 1 billion dollars) and the launch of the Cyclone-4 PH, March reports aereo.jor.br 10.

According to the plans, the first launch of the launch vehicle is to take place at the beginning of 2015. The Brazilian government is still optimistic, but recognizes that the construction time may be shifted due to "military tensions in Eastern Europe." It is reported that the first launch can be carried out at the end of 2015 of the year, but maybe a little later.

The construction of the facility is carried out by the international consortium Alcântara Cyclone Space (ACS). The agreement between the two countries was signed in 2003 year, negotiations on the construction of the cosmodrome were also conducted with the United States. It is reported that the construction of the launch complex is completed only on 40%

Brazil chose Ukraine because this country became the heir to the space technology of the Soviet Union and is one of the world leaders in the space field. The Cyclone PH has been operated since 1969, it has a very successful track record. 226 launches were completed, of which only six failed. The production of the PH is carried out by a group of 16 companies, the assembly of the Cyclone-4 missiles is carried out in Dnepropetrovsk. The new version of the rocket will have a higher accuracy of launching vehicles into orbit with an increased 30-percentage fuel reserve (service life up to 20 years).

The cosmodrome is a complex on the San Luis peninsula, because of its proximity to the equator, launches of LV from Alcantara require less fuel than launches from Cape Canaveral (USA) and Baikonur (Kazakhstan).
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  1. +9
    12 March 2014 10: 09
    Sashko White is now the heroes of Ukraine, and not the way to the stars. Glory to the farmers!
    1. +4
      12 March 2014 10: 53
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Sashko White is now the heroes of Ukraine, and not the way to the stars. Glory to the farmers!

      So, launch it into orbit without a return ticket.
      1. avg
        +4
        12 March 2014 12: 29
        Brazil chose Ukraine because this country became the heir to the space technology of the Soviet Union and is one of the world leaders in the space field.

        Yes, simply because, seeing no prospects, they are ready to sell the Soviet legacy for pennies and dump somewhere in Canada.
        1. +2
          12 March 2014 14: 47
          Quote: avg
          Brazil chose Ukraine because this country became the heir to the space technology of the Soviet Union and is one of the world leaders in the space field.

          There is an opinion (in Ukraine, by the way) that "what is called the" Ukrainian space industry "is just regional fragments of the Soviet rocket and space industry, of which add something self-contained is simply impossible. All space programs that official Ukrainian officials call “Ukrainian” are in fact purely Russian-Ukrainian. Without Russia, Ukraine cannot build and launch a single rocket into space.
          And from this it follows that in no space commercial project without Russia, Ukraine cannot participate. Moreover, the lack of self-sufficiency of Ukrainian rocket scientists, their inability to independently build a carrier and launch it into space, make them uncompetitive in relation to those states that can independently develop rocket complexes and launch carrier rockets into orbit. That is why, in the space services market, Ukraine is doomed to be someone in the wings, to play a secondary role.
          And therefore, all the talk that our country occupies 13% of the world market for launch services is nothing more than a game with numbers. The Ukrainian space industry could occupy some segment of the market if it was able to independently create, manufacture and launch rockets. "
          Rocket-cosmonauts. what is your opinion?
          1. 0
            12 March 2014 15: 44
            Quote: Alekseev
            Quote: avg
            Brazil chose Ukraine because this country became the heir to the space technology of the Soviet Union and is one of the world leaders in the space field.

            There is an opinion (in Ukraine, by the way) that "what is called the" Ukrainian space industry "is just regional fragments of the Soviet rocket and space industry, of which add something self-contained is simply impossible. All space programs that official Ukrainian officials call “Ukrainian” are in fact purely Russian-Ukrainian. Without Russia, Ukraine cannot build and launch a single rocket into space.
            And from this it follows that in no space commercial project without Russia, Ukraine cannot participate. Moreover, the lack of self-sufficiency of Ukrainian rocket scientists, their inability to independently build a carrier and launch it into space, make them uncompetitive in relation to those states that can independently develop rocket complexes and launch carrier rockets into orbit. That is why, in the space services market, Ukraine is doomed to be someone in the wings, to play a secondary role.
            And therefore, all the talk that our country occupies 13% of the world market for launch services is nothing more than a game with numbers. The Ukrainian space industry could occupy some segment of the market if it was able to independently create, manufacture and launch rockets. "
            Rocket-cosmonauts. what is your opinion?


            I fully agree with the previous speaker.
            By the way, how many spaceports in Ukraine are there?
            And how many objects of ground-based space infrastructure? Just do not talk about the radar SPRN (2 pieces), they probably already long ago on the copper and scrap metal was taken apart.
            And what segment can there be?
            If at least the industry remained at the level of the collapse of the USSR, it was still possible to dream of something, but ..... you ate the old reserves, but for the new ones there were no pennies, all for the cause of revolution!
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    2. +1
      12 March 2014 11: 03
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Glory to the farmers!

      Salou glory!
    3. +1
      12 March 2014 11: 55
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Sashko White is now the heroes of Ukraine, and not the way to the stars. Glory to the farmers!

      Damn, maybe Mars is an independent land. Let it fly. In principle, he will soon meet God
  2. +1
    12 March 2014 10: 11
    Yes, if Ukraine doesn’t saw industrial assets, Brazil may be lucky
    1. +3
      12 March 2014 11: 03
      Quote: saag
      maybe Brazil and be lucky

      maybe Russia ...
      1. +1
        12 March 2014 13: 15
        Or maybe Brazil and Russia.
        1. +1
          12 March 2014 15: 48
          Quote: bvi1965
          Or maybe Brazil and Russia.

          Or maybe Brazil is lucky now, with the Cyclone? ...
          From Wikipedia: "Since Cyclone-4 uses highly toxic fuel components (a legacy of its MBR past: asymmetric dimethylhydrazine (heptyl) and nitrogen tetroxide (amyl) as an oxidizer), it became necessary to minimize environmental risks. In the new fueling system being developed for all stages enters the launch vehicle from the lower end of the 1st stage on the launch pad, which helps neutralize toxic rocket fuel vapors "
    2. 0
      12 March 2014 20: 12
      So far they will simply be divided anew.
  3. +2
    12 March 2014 10: 20
    Space as a premonition - does not work in Ukraine. The crisis as a premonition of the collapse of everything and everyone.
  4. Capyar 48315
    +3
    12 March 2014 11: 04
    yeah - have to wait. It was necessary to hire other builders (with a reputation) and not chase the price.
  5. dmitrij.blyuz
    +1
    12 March 2014 12: 11
    But Russia did not have enough brains to choose? Even then it was clear that everything was not in order in the politics of Ukraine. Now they will have to urgently revise not only the launch dates, but also the continuation of the construction of the cosmodrome. And not the fact that it is successful.
  6. +3
    12 March 2014 12: 11
    interesting, complex project
    the topic is generally discussion, not ridicule ...
    1. +4
      12 March 2014 12: 27
      Laugh, don’t laugh, and if you join the EU, you can put an end to the project. Firstly, the standards are not the same, and secondly, who needs a competitor.
  7. +1
    12 March 2014 12: 16
    At least it was profitable with Ukraine, if the industrial east joins Russia and the enterprises do not fall apart, that means they will fly from Brazil.
    1. 0
      12 March 2014 13: 18
      The industrial east itself will not join; it is necessary to join with ...
      1. +2
        12 March 2014 16: 53
        Quote: bvi1965
        The industrial east itself will not join; it is necessary to join with.

        That's for sure, from the comments on the article.
        http://politobzor.net/show-14779-miliciya-donecka-otkazalas-vypolnyat-prikazy-ki
        eva.html
        waldemaar08
        IMPORTANT INFORMATION!!! On the Freedom Square, the KHOGA is guarded not by Kharkov law enforcement officers, but by Poltava ones, there are Sumy ones, there are practically no Kharkov ones. They were removed because they said that when trying to capture the KHOGA they would deploy shields from the protesters and would not go against the people. Bandera protection. The information is reliable, according to the officer VV. I think it will be the same in other regions. We are waiting for "death squads" from the PS, and the authorities sent them to us in uniform. I wonder if they have the conscience to raise a hand? Poltava and Sumy residents are not strangers to us. ...
        It seems like a golden eagle.
  8. +1
    12 March 2014 20: 10
    Again, where are they collected? In the east of Ukraine. So they will not be launched for a long time.
  9. 0
    13 March 2014 11: 50
    Quote: voliador
    Again, where are they collected? In the east of Ukraine. .

    Dnepropetrovsk + a bunch of allies throughout Ukraine and Russia.
    There is very little on the memory - this is not patriotic ...