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Turkey: gives power to its own "bloody gebne." And waiting for the election

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Turkey: gives power to its own "bloody gebne." And waiting for the election
The Turkish Parliament is discussing a new bill to significantly expand the powers of the National Intelligence Service (MIT). The initiative of the government of Recep Tayyip Erdogan caused a flurry of comments in the opposition media, in which the future Turkey is called as “the country of Mukhabarat” or “the country of the Secret Police”. The observer of the weekly Zaman even wrote that the proposed draft law is nothing more than an attempt to turn Turkey into a copy of the state described in George Orwell’s dystopian novel “1984 Year”


The government and the ruling Justice and Development Party (AKP) want to introduce censorship on the Internet and abolish the already relative independence of the judiciary. "Well, since the implementation of such projects requires the appropriate tools, the ruling party proposed to reorganize the National Intelligence Service in the image and likeness of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps in Iran," writes Zaman.

We are talking about the delegation of the right to MIT to conduct secret operations abroad, to fight terrorism and to counter threats to national security. As for foreign operations, everything is clear with them - intelligence services of all countries are engaged in such things. But here are the last two points raise serious questions.

The fact is that “terrorism” and “threats to national security” are extremely ambiguous and flexible in use. Many in Turkey fear that with their help it will be easy to deal with fellow citizens, who, although they have nothing in common with terrorists, are not actively liked by the authorities.

At the same time, the new law (if it is, of course, adopted) makes MIT an untouchable structure, not even controlled by the country's parliament. It will be possible to bring an MIT agent to court only with the approval of the Prime Minister, but the agents themselves will have the right of unlimited access to the information bases of any structures, including banks, schools, private firms, airlines, charitable foundations and universities.

The bill provides for a strict ban on the dissemination of information and documents relating to the activities of MIT. Violations of this prohibition can lead the perpetrators to 12 years in prison. But the intelligence service itself will be able to listen to public telephones installed on the streets, as well as conversations of foreigners residing in Turkey and Turkish citizens living abroad without any prosecutor’s orders.

Deciding who represents a threat to national security, and who does not, will, of course, be the government itself. In this regard, Turkish newspapers cite an interesting fact: comparatively recently, the movement of Fethullah Gulen did not appear in the “black lists”, but now Erdogan declared it socially dangerous. Gulenists were even listed as terrorist organizations, but MIT removed Al-Qaida from this list back in 2010.

The movement of the Muslim philosopher and preacher Fethullah Gülen, now living in self-exile in Pennsylvania, USA, is a cross between a religious order and a powerful transnational corporation with a global network of businesses, schools, universities and the media. Gulenists are a very serious political force, whose interests increasingly conflict with the ruling Justice and Development Party in Turkey.

Not only did the supporters of Gulen take an active part in the recent revelations of high-ranking corrupt officials who had connections with the government and party leaders, according to press reports, they are now actively establishing links with other opposition forces inside Turkey. Consequently, the movement poses a serious threat - if not the national security of the country, then certainly the reputation of the AKP and the political plans of Erdogan.

Today, Turkey faces serious risks associated with both the traditional Kurdish problem and the civil war in Syria (Ankara’s position on the Syrian issue served her a disservice). The assumption that Turkey could become a new leader in the democratized Muslim world was not justified. Democratization did not work, but Erdogan, more and more often, including in the West, is reproached for admitting jihadist fighters in transit in his territory to Syria. Moreover, these militants are a real danger for Turkey itself. After all, it is here that they will return if Bashar Asad defeats his opponents.

Another problem is Turkey’s financial vulnerability. As is known, AKP came to power as a result of the large-scale banking crisis of the 2001 year, after which a decade of relatively stable economic growth came. The influence of AKP grew rapidly, and the secular business elite of Turkey just as quickly and decisively pushed into the background. In its stead Erdogan was preparing a stratum of new loyalist businessmen, and it seemed that everything was going as well as possible.

At that time, Turkey was actively attracting cheap and mobile portfolio investment - as a result, a country with a population of more than 70 million people and a steadily growing economy turned out to be seriously dependent on the influx of foreign money that is urgently needed to pay for energy contracts, which, by and large, ensured economic growth.

The trouble is that most of the foreign money flowing to Turkey was invested in debts or in ordinary stocks. (These are not direct investments that imply job creation and indicate investor interest in the development of the company for the long term). At the end of 2013, the share of direct investment in the Turkish economy was 11 billion dollars, while the share of portfolio investment reached 26 billion. And it is obvious that any political crisis will deal a much more serious blow to the financial system of Turkey than to the economies of countries with predominant foreign direct investment.

An additional risk factor is the close connection of the new Turkish economy with the ruling Justice and Development Party. According to experts, nothing unexpected will happen if the AKP opponents, united, try to strike at its financial base.

Erdogan and his party gather forces in a fist. The goal is to win the presidential election in August 2014. These will be the first nationwide presidential elections (before this, the head of state was elected by the parliament). As a result, Turkey should become a presidential republic. Or, as Erdogan’s opponents fear, “the land of Mukhabarat”.
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  1. RND
    RND 12 March 2014 10: 31
    +10
    The hope that Turkey could become a new leader in the democratized Muslim world has not been justified. Democratization failed

    It turned out as always - seduced with crap (democratizers from behind a puddle), themselves fell out in crap. It is necessary to wash, not smear.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 12 March 2014 11: 33
      +2
      The initiative of the government of Recep Tayyip Erdogan caused a flurry of comments in the opposition media, in which the future Turkey is referred to as “the country of Muhabarat” or “the country of the Secret Police”. The Zaman weekly columnist even wrote that the proposed draft law is nothing more than an attempt to turn Turkey into a copy of the state described in George Orwell’s dystopian novel “1984 Year”

      Well, the right path is Erdogan lol Here, either to the dictatorship or to the developed Western "democracies"! But no matter how late it was !!! And then we will have another Yanukovych! laughing
      1. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 12 March 2014 13: 35
        +3
        I can say with confidence that Erdogan will win!

        We will never have dictatorship, the wrong country and the wrong people! hi
    2. knn54
      knn54 12 March 2014 13: 11
      +4
      Here's how to love your homeland! Strengthening the powers of special services means toughening up the fight against dissidents, who (like ANY Right Opposition) are kept by the State Department. If the joint with Syria was nevertheless lowered to him, then, in relation to Ukraine (in the Crimea), according to the West, he has a restrained policy.
      PS Something has happened since 1984. Orwell probably already dodged the whole in the coffin.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 12 March 2014 15: 05
        +1
        Quote: knn54
        I can say with confidence that Erdogan will win!

        Your words yes to God in your ears!
        Quote: knn54
        We will never have dictatorship, the wrong country and the wrong people! hi

        Forgive me of course, but how then to keep the people in check !!!
        Well, either introduce laws like in the USA with a global wiretap, which is basically the same thing, the same dictatorship! Is there any other way?
        You are no longer the only one on this site who claims that everything will be quiet and peaceful in Turkey and the people are different! And they also said about Kiev, they say people will dance, dance and mustache! But no, not mustache! Here are the events of the last few years to the contrary! Your students and environmentalists come out for all sorts of actions, they are already warmed up! Erdogan is uncomfortable for the Americans and probably the entire top boss is too helpless for the Yankees! Like Yanukovych is direct!
        The people also did not think that they would surrender Kiev to the fascists, but how it happened !!! hi
        1. alone
          alone 12 March 2014 18: 45
          +3
          Eugene, Turkey has completely different laws. If tomorrow the people feel that the government does not keep their word, this power will not pass unambiguously in the elections. And this is the guarantor of the people themselves. And politically everything is working out fine there, vote-rigging is impossible there. keeps the government in check!
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 12 March 2014 18: 55
            0
            Quote: lonely
            .There the people keep the government in check!

            Greetings! hi Choices like 30 numbers?
            Quote: lonely
            If tomorrow people feel that power is not keeping their word, this power will not pass unambiguously in elections.

            It’s just a persistent feeling that they are digging under Erdogan, he somehow manages to maneuver, but for how long! Scandals one by one!

            I just watched the news!

            BAKU, 12 Mar - News-Azerbaijan. Taksim Square has been closed in Istanbul, Turkish TV channel Haber7 reported on Wednesday.

            The square is closed due to the fact that protesters gathered on it. A large number of police are concentrated on the roads leading to the square.

            Last night, mass protests took place in 32 cities of Turkey in connection with the death of 14-year-old Berkin Elvan. He was injured in a shooting opened by police in May last year, and recently died. The largest protests took place in Istanbul and Ankara. Turkish police dispersed the demonstrators.

            I would like to say that everything is calm in Istanbul, but somehow the language does not turn around! hi
            1. alone
              alone 12 March 2014 19: 33
              +1
              And where is it calm now? Here and there everything is mixed up everywhere. They have very strong state patriotism. If something threatens the state, they forget everything and go together to solve this problem. The state and the flag of the state are everything for them. The rest is of secondary importance. This is a fact.
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 12 March 2014 20: 06
                +1
                Quote: lonely
                And where is calm now?
                I didn’t say anything, I just have the feeling that the region is being deliberately undermined, unrest in Ukraine and if God forbid also in Turkey! That region will burn with a hellish flame!
                And I didn’t like the video here, I’ll tell you clearly why you understand why the March rally of 8 in Istanbul!

                1. alone
                  alone 12 March 2014 20: 14
                  +2
                  they take permission from the municipality of any city in Turkey to hold a rally and shout and protest as much as you like. Such a law will even provide protection.
                  But without the knowledge of the municipality, get batons and water from water cannons.
                  This is a rally of Crimean Tatars and Ukrainians. They have a large diaspora in Turkey. No wonder.
        2. ayyildiz
          ayyildiz 12 March 2014 21: 50
          +1
          Quote: Sid.74
          Your words yes to God in your ears!

          In fact, the most profitable prime minister for Russia is Erdogan!
        3. muks
          muks 12 March 2014 23: 08
          0
          There is no need to "keep the people in check"! THE PEOPLE OF RUSSIA need a clear, CONSTITUTIONAL IDEOLOGY. ALL ____ ALL WHO AGAINST THIS IDEOLOGY-ENEMIES. Yes, this is brainwashing ... The troubles in the Russian Empire began precisely with the Duma, exactly when each group, called a party, had its own "truth." What prevents the people from choosing their representatives not according to .. "major districts", not according to party lists, not some "single-mandate" (with one mandate?) Deputies, but on a completely different principle? Having nothing in common with the European, American, whatever - having in common and based only on the RUSSIAN system of elections to the zemstvo? Dictatorship? Let there be a MAJORITY Dictatorship. With its own ideology, with traditional values. It should have a rejection of tolerance, for it is incompatible with any traditional religion, whose morality, i.e. the system of basic values ​​is based precisely on belief in the absolute, on a clear distinction between good and evil. The faith of the inhabitants of the USSR was destroyed very quickly - what did they get in return, and is there a leader capable of returning? Remember by what methods Pyotr Alekseevich, Iosif Vmssarionovich! And so ... LET RUSSIA RISE - LET OUR NAMES BECOME!
  2. Fuzeler
    Fuzeler 12 March 2014 10: 33
    +9
    By the way, about the "painful" thing: look how the Turkish police acted yesterday and today when they dispersed the rallies and processions. And this is a NATO country, a country that climbs into the EU.
  3. askort154
    askort154 12 March 2014 10: 36
    +9
    Yes, Erdogan now has no time for Crimea. He would not be in Yanukovych's shoes. Today there are "Maidan" again. It seems his turn has come, in "Western democratization."
  4. RUSS
    RUSS 12 March 2014 10: 50
    +8
    Erdogan fears a "Turkish spring" and the activation of the Kurds, because in the north of Iraq there is a de facto independent Kurdistan, in Syria, there is a large Kurdish autonomy, and the Turkish ones may also move.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 12 March 2014 11: 36
      +3
      Quote: RUSS
      Erdogan fears a "Turkish spring" and the activation of the Kurds, because there is a de facto independent Kurdistan in the north of Iraq, a large Kurdish autonomy in Syria,

      just the same Kurds, he fears less. The threat is mainly from the Turks.
  5. Capyar 48315
    Capyar 48315 12 March 2014 10: 52
    +11
    feeling that Turkey is a candidate for the next "spring". Hence Erdogan's desire to strengthen control over society to the detriment of freedoms (for x..r the elites are uninteresting). Hence the inclusion in the "black list" of Gülen with his Pennsylvania-religious sharashka - we also have enough such offices.
    1. Danilka
      Danilka 12 March 2014 12: 21
      0
      and then Erdogan will live in Sochi? wassat
    2. Danilka
      Danilka 12 March 2014 12: 21
      0
      and then Erdogan will live in Sochi? wassat
  6. Naum
    Naum 12 March 2014 10: 57
    +1
    Turkey has its own constant "headache" - the Kurdish issue, which they do not want or cannot solve. As soon as the Turks get involved in any military adventure with their neighbors, the Kurds will not fail to rise up for their freedom with great chances of success. This reliable anchor holds the Janissary firmly in place.
    And yet it is a pity that they did not take to the Russian-Turkish Constantinople! Our western "partners" even then interfered with Russia as best they could ...
  7. Havoc
    Havoc 12 March 2014 11: 01
    +5
    Erdogan did not support the United States on the issue of Crimea, rumors are circulating about Turkey’s intention to join the Customs Union (President Nazarbayev announced this), weak policy (as the United States believes) in Syria, and problems have begun.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 12 March 2014 11: 16
      0
      Quote: Havoc
      Erdogan did not support the United States on the issue of Crimea, rumors are circulating about Turkey’s intention to join the Customs Union (President Nazarbayev announced this), weak policy (as the United States believes) in Syria, and problems have begun.


      Erdogan is "not a stable comrade," and this uncertainty and increasing independence of his is beginning to strain the West and the United States, therefore he is playing ahead of the curve by strengthening the special services, he knows how this can threaten him personally - Milosevic, Gaddafi, Hussein, Yanukovych ...
  8. andrei332809
    andrei332809 12 March 2014 11: 03
    +1
    See Erdogan is not a bad student. looking at GDP, I thought, you won’t let me go anywhere, and I lied on you. sensed that the west had no power left, only a talking room. no matter how I asked under the wing of China or we
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 12 March 2014 11: 13
      +5
      Quote: andrei332809
      no matter how I asked under the wing of China or we

      Why not? Russia + Turkey - look very nice ... with a view of the Black Sea hi
      1. from punk
        from punk 12 March 2014 11: 30
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        Why not? Russia + Turkey - look very nice ... with a view of the Black Sea

        the main thing is that there the Islamists would not come to power
        1. alone
          alone 12 March 2014 18: 46
          +1
          laughing moderate Islamists are in power there.))
  9. inkass_98
    inkass_98 12 March 2014 11: 06
    +2
    For there is (was) in Egypt and Turkey (as well as in Syria with Iraq, Yemen, etc.) a folk tradition - the military stood at the head of the country, did not allow shyness, built a LIGHT state, crushed extremists. And then suddenly the "Arab Spring" (well, who has something to substitute). And hello .opa - New Year.
    Democratic you are ours.
    A bike from life - when he served at customs (esessno coachman), flights were served including to Damascus and Aleppo. So a sweet deal was to communicate on a personal search with the Syrians - hands behind his head, feet shoulder width apart. Papa Hafiz al-Assad taught that there is no need to argue with the authorities, you need to behave yourself.
  10. bulvas
    bulvas 12 March 2014 11: 10
    +4
    The twin attack on September 11th in the USA turned out to be very handy for many states with claims to leadership. The fight against terrorism inevitably entails a justifiable restriction on democracy, which in turn allows
    - manage personnel as you wish
    - get rid of dissent
    - increase security and defense costs

    How many speeches were there in due time, that after 11/9 the world will no longer be the same ...

    Is that all Al Qaeda has come up with?
  11. R-2
    R-2 12 March 2014 11: 16
    0
    Quote: bulvas
    The twin attack on September 11th in the USA turned out to be very handy for many states with claims to leadership. The fight against terrorism inevitably entails a justifiable restriction on democracy, which in turn allows
    - manage personnel as you wish
    - get rid of dissent
    - increase security and defense costs

    How many speeches were there in due time, that after 11/9 the world will no longer be the same ...

    Is that all Al Qaeda has come up with?

    Al CIA Qaeda - it all came up.
  12. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 12 March 2014 11: 17
    +2
    For me, the interested parties want to replace the erdogan with their own man and drive the Amerikosov fleet into the Black Sea, it’s already been said about Georgia that when we recognize and join the Crimea, we will automatically take Georgia into NATO.
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 12 March 2014 11: 28
      +1
      Quote: Coffee_time
      replace Erdogan’s otts with your man and drive the American fleet into the Black Sea


      It is logical
    2. and she
      and she 12 March 2014 22: 14
      0
      The US Navy entered the Black Sea to participate in joint exercises with the Romanian Navy of Bulgaria, so NAVY is already there. They can only stay in the World Cup for 21 days, this is a requirement of the Montreux Convention.
      And even earlier they "covered" the Sochi Olympics.
      It will be difficult for Erdogan to find a way out of the situation - he played too much in Syria, also the Kurdish problem hangs over him, the scandal of listening to his conversation with his son about how to hide a lot of money. So the establishment of the secret police, which will obey only the head of state, is a strong move, although forced. Only if they allow him to make this move.
  13. Yeraz
    Yeraz 12 March 2014 11: 42
    +5
    Erdogan will be thrown off his popularity not like before, especially among the Turks. Many participants in the Ergenekon case were released, his constant love for the Arabs was shaken by many.
    He is an American project, just like Gulen. And many people know this. Therefore, I hardly believe in his victory.
    And he is trying to tighten the nuts and the Maidan will be a fairy tale if he goes on like this.
  14. bubla5
    bubla5 12 March 2014 12: 15
    0
    All special services have unlimited power. There is nothing new.
  15. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 12 March 2014 12: 28
    0
    Turkey: Gives power to its own bloody gebne.

    The author of the article has completely lost his mind. He hates the USSR and Russia so much that he even glued the label "gebnya" to capitalist Turkey, it would have been necessary to "Gestapo".

    The article is surprising that the author is so concerned about the tightening of the regime in Turkey, what does this have to do with Russia? After all, no!
  16. RUSS
    RUSS 12 March 2014 12: 35
    0
    Quote: Yeraz
    just the same Kurds, he fears less. The threat is mainly from the Turks.



    If we suddenly imagine there will be a "Turkish spring", then the Kurds will growl under the guise and become more active, for example, Syria, where they created their wide autonomy in the north, or an even more vivid example, Ukraine, which tomorrow will legally lose part of "its" land.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 12 March 2014 13: 05
      +2
      Quote: RUSS
      If we suddenly imagine there will be a "Turkish spring", then the Kurds will growl under the guise and become more active,

      Armenians, too, when the Turks suffered losses in the First World War, grumbled and paid for it) The problem of the Kurds is sometimes exaggerated, supposedly almost the entire Kurdish people are in opposition to the Turks. This is not so. The Turks will instantly forget their Europeanization.
      Quote: RUSS
      or an even more vivid example is Ukraine, which tomorrow will legally lose part of "its" land.

      And what does it have to do with it ?? If it weren’t for the Russian troops there, the locals could not have done anything, due to their low activity and cohesion.
      Erdogan himself was discredited by his policies, both in external and internal. And Turkish youth in cities is united and active and they are against him.
      it’s not long left the elections will show what and how.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 12 March 2014 13: 40
        0
        Quote: Yeraz
        And what does it have to do with it ?? If it weren’t for the Russian troops there, the locals could not have done anything, due to their low activity and cohesion.


        Naturally, we will help not only the Russian Crimea!
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 12 March 2014 13: 59
          +1
          Quote: RUSS
          Naturally, we will help not only the Russian Crimea!

          This is another question.
      2. RUSS
        RUSS 12 March 2014 13: 44
        0
        Quote: Yeraz
        The problem of the Kurds is sometimes exaggerated too much, almost the entire Kurdish people are in opposition to the Turks. This is not so. The Turks will forget their Europeanization in an instant.


        There is a problem and most likely, if the power in Turkey gives weakness or the country experiences the same chaos as in Iraq and Syria, then the Turkish Kurds will not miss their chance.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 12 March 2014 13: 59
          +1
          Quote: RUSS
          There is a problem

          well, no one denies this. And if Russia weakens the North Caucasus, it immediately raises a huge boil. A person, when different sores start weaker.
  17. mabuta
    mabuta 12 March 2014 13: 59
    0
    Perhaps the United States with each "spring" more and more tears the navel. So it will not reach the doctor.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 13 March 2014 00: 16
      +2
      Yes, but if it farts, there will be something stink. bully
  18. Mountain diver
    Mountain diver 12 March 2014 19: 45
    0
    Quote: Coffee_time
    drive the American fleet into the Black Sea

    Let them drive them in. At least you don’t have to chase them. Gouging them all right away!
  19. Lelek
    Lelek 13 March 2014 00: 15
    +2
    If Erdogan firmly pursued Atatürk’s policy, then there would be no fuss. Duality and duplicity are extremely dangerous. A fresh example is Yanukovych. fool