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The Russian low-profile fighter flies faster than the US and exceeds them in range

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Airplane T-50 high-speed, with a long range and awesome weapons


Since the first public demonstration of 4 a year ago, the first Russian low-profile fighter quietly passed the necessary tests; the field of flight regimes is gradually expanding and systematic elimination of technical flaws is underway. But despite all this hard work, until recently there was very little information about how many units of the Sukhoi T-50 planes Moscow plans to build and how they will be used.

The Russian low-profile fighter flies faster than the US and exceeds them in range

The Russian low-profile fighter flies faster than the US and exceeds them in range


One of the world's leading experts in the field aviation Bill Sweetman provides interesting details about Moscow’s intentions regarding the heavy twin-engine T-50 - the Russian response to the American stealth fighter F-22.

If Sweetman is right (and he usually does not make mistakes), this angular combat aircraft with an 50-foot wingspan will be purchased in small quantities and used as a kind of air sniper, elusively destroying enemy radars and high-powered long-range missiles from high altitude.

It appears that the T-50 design and the intended choice of weapons are suitable for performing such tasks, using the weak points of the US Army and its allies. Especially when you consider that the Chinese have the same approach to creating their own inconspicuous fighters.


Rocket X-58


weaponry

At the MAKS Airshow held near Moscow, some of the five experimental T-50 samples appeared. The manufacturers also demonstrated missiles that can be placed in the spacious compartments of the T-50 armament, as well as under the wings or fuselage of the aircraft.

According to Svitman, who visited the Avaiashou, the fighter will not be operational for several years, except perhaps for a small test squadron. Indeed, Moscow recently moved the term for adopting from 2015 to 2016 a year.

But the appearance of the T-50, even in limited quantities, will not go unnoticed by the enemy forces. Sweetman came to the conclusion that the T-50 may be equipped with two kinds of powerful weapons: a type of X-58USHE anti-radar missile and an RVV-BD air-to-air missile.

Both are approximately 15 feet long, missiles can hit targets at a distance of 120 miles or more. X-58USHE is designed to destroy enemy radars; RVV-DB - combat aircraft.

American counterparts are AGM-88 anti-radar missile and AIM-120 air-to-air missile. Being a few feet shorter and hundreds of pounds lighter than the Russian equivalent, they reflect the specific American approach to air combat. American invisibles, including the B-2 bomber, F-22 fighters and the F-35, which is under development, are armed with relatively small light ammunition of short range.

The main B-2 ammunition is an 2000-pound bomb. For ground targets, the F-22 and F-35 are equipped with 500-pound guided wing bombs that can travel up to 60 miles under optimal conditions.

The range of air-to-air AIM-120 missiles used on the F-22 and F-35 is only 50 miles or so, although the exact value is classified. It is noteworthy that none of the American low-profile fighters can carry anti-radar missiles, in contrast to the estimated T-50 data.


MIG-29 and T-50


Air Warfare Approaches

The difference in equipment reflects the opposite of the approaches of the United States and Russia to the use of subtle aircraft. With the exception of the F-22, American aircraft that are not visible to radar are not particularly high-speed and must be nearby all the time in order to be able to use their lighter short-range projectiles. Therefore, they need the highest possible “invisibility” to make it difficult to detect them from any angle.

B-2 can fly thousands of miles, but the F-22 and F-35 have a poor supply of fuel, which makes frequent refueling of tanker aircraft necessary.
In turn, the T-50 fighter is obviously being developed in order to be able to break through a fairly straight line of defense. This fighter is characterized by high altitude and range, low radioactivity in the front, sustained high speed, range of weapons, which allows you to effectively hit targets in the rear of the enemy without the need to use tankers, which Russia has few. This does not mean that the T-50 cannot be highly manoeuvrable when necessary.

The primary targets of the Russian fighter are reconnaissance aircraft, airborne early warning vehicles, refueling aircraft and ground-based radars. In other words, support systems consisting of expensive high-tech equipment used in any US-led air campaign. Destroy support systems and maintenance personnel - and you will disrupt the enemy's air military operation.

Not only Moscow applies a similar approach. China also has a new low profile J-20 fighter. It is a large, heavy and possibly high-speed aircraft, like the T-50, with low radio-visibility in the front, equipped with modern weapons.

According to analysts of Air Power Australia, J-20 can be used to breach the enemy’s air defense, destroying fighter jets of air cover, long-range radar detection aircraft and refueling aircraft.

This is a sensible strategy. During the 2008 exercise of the year organized by the US strategic research center sponsored by the US Air Force, the F-22 aircraft fought against the older Chinese fighters like the Su-27 in a hypothetical air battle over Taiwan.

After the Chinese bombing of American airfields, only F-6 X-NUMX fighters versus Chinese X-NUMX fighters remained in service. Accompanied by support aircraft, the F-22 defenders engaged in close combat and shot down 72 units of Su-22 units. However, the remaining Chinese planes managed to break through and destroy 48 tankers, 27 early warning radar aircraft, 6 patrol P-2 and 4 unmanned Global Hawk reconnaissance aircraft, effectively paralyzing the forces of the Americans. Not having the opportunity to refuel, the F-3 were defeated when the fuel ran out, although they had survived an exchange of missile strikes.

If it turned out to be a Su-27, the newer and more advanced T-50 and J-20 with increased range weapons can cause much more significant damage with less losses for themselves.

With such tactics, it does not take a lot of Russian or Chinese aircraft to influence the outcome of the future air battles. So, Sweetman’s forecast that the T-50 fighter will not be released in large quantities in the near future serves as a weak consolation. The impressive characteristics of the aircraft and its weapons can upset the balance of power in the air.
Originator:
http://thelastgreatstand.com/lgs/2014/03/04/russia’s-stealth-fighter-could-outfly-outshoot-american-jets/
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 12 March 2014 07: 36
    +24
    T-50 beautiful and powerful aircraft
    1. aktanir
      aktanir 12 March 2014 08: 08
      +6
      Let the main element of the aircraft, the engine, appear and prove its viability first.
      1. Nick
        Nick 12 March 2014 08: 41
        +12
        Quote: aktanir
        Let the main element of the aircraft, the engine, appear and prove its viability first

        So already appeared 4 years ago. And on the plane, the main element, while the pilot is IMHO ...
      2. Ivan Petrovich
        Ivan Petrovich 12 March 2014 09: 03
        +5
        in-in, otherwise the MiG-3 before the war also considered a miracle a weapon ...
      3. Su24
        Su24 12 March 2014 10: 20
        +3
        Quote: aktanir
        Let the main element of the aircraft, the engine, appear and prove its viability first.


        I thought the pilot))

        If Sweetman is right (and he usually does not make mistakes), this angular combat aircraft with an 50-foot wingspan will be purchased in small quantities and used as a kind of air sniper, elusively destroying enemy radars and high-powered long-range missiles from high altitude.


        It will be purchased in large quantities. Oh, and this expert is Sweetman. And the AIM-120 rockets with him only 80 km fly, although in fact the AIM-120C7 is 120 km long, and 6 F-22s shoot down 48 of 72 Su-27s.
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 13 March 2014 03: 23
          +1
          It is noteworthy that not one of the American stealth fighters can carry anti-radar missiles ...

          What is this nonsense? belay F-35 is created as an anti-aircraft defense aircraft, anti-radar missiles - this is the first thing that it should (and can) carry. laughing I barely read it. request

          Patriotism is certainly laudable, but ...

      4. Rus2012
        Rus2012 12 March 2014 11: 06
        0
        Quote: aktanir
        l the main element of the aircraft is the engine.

        ... and what, he thinks without an engine?
        You are mistaken ...
        he has a whole range of engines
        option 1 - product 117С, then what flies
        Variant2 - product 27, the first modernization (Su-XX-M1)
        option 3 - product 29, the second - Su-XX-M2
        Probably there will be M3
    2. jjj
      jjj 12 March 2014 08: 31
      +8
      We bring the car without noise and dust. And it’s good that nobody really knows anything about her
    3. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 12 March 2014 18: 04
      0
      6 F-22 fighters against 72 Chinese. Accompanied by support planes, the F-22 defenders entered close combat and shot down 48 Su-27 units


      Oh, I don’t believe - each has 8 planes - will there be enough missiles for them ??? In general, as they say now, - BOB - Lie Pi-dzh Provocation
  2. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 12 March 2014 07: 39
    +18
    The impressive performance of an aircraft and its weapons can upset the balance of power in the air. yes and also the balance of power in the world! we hope that now we will increase the pace (without sacrificing quality) of production as much as possible, they are VERY necessary, well VERY! the world is changing rapidly, and not for the better, alas, the side ...
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 12 March 2014 07: 43
    +24
    The T-50 will upset not only the balance of power, but also the acid-base balance of some Western warriors. soldier
    1. Simon
      Simon 12 March 2014 08: 13
      +2
      Nothing, we’ll send them a valerian to calm down while driving the T-50. lol
  4. Sibiriya
    Sibiriya 12 March 2014 07: 50
    +5
    So for sure, the nagator in the Air Force would have taken
    1. dzvero
      dzvero 12 March 2014 10: 10
      +2
      good name short and capacious wink
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  5. Kodar 75
    Kodar 75 12 March 2014 07: 53
    +4
    American soldiers can only dream of such devices)))
    1. Ivan Russky
      Ivan Russky 12 March 2014 11: 16
      +1
      Let them fly in their chicken coops tongue
  6. ZU-23
    ZU-23 12 March 2014 07: 54
    +7
    Well, even the Americans began to admit that the Raptor sucks, I'm waiting for the minuses pro-raptors laughing
    1. Com T-64a
      Com T-64a 12 March 2014 08: 08
      .
      Dear, SUGGEST ??? 6 f-22 against 72 su 27 shot down 48 sushki! Sucks ... wassat
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 12 March 2014 08: 22
        +5
        Where is it so bulo?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 12 March 2014 09: 35
          +9
          Quote: Igor39
          Where is it so bulo?

          In a computer online game laughing
          1. krpmlws
            krpmlws 12 March 2014 11: 24
            +1
            I somehow shot down 1271234 pieces of su-27 flying on a raptor laughing
      2. muginov2015
        muginov2015 12 March 2014 08: 57
        -5
        Dear, SUGGEST ??? 6 f-22 against 72 su 27 shot down 48 sushki! Sucks ...
        Now count it in dollars, Konstantin
        1. igor36
          igor36 12 March 2014 09: 42
          +3
          Quote: muginov2015
          6 f-22 against 72 su 27 shot down 48 sushkas

          In this simulator, the superseas played for the Americans. In stealth mode, all of the F-22 missiles are located on internal suspensions, these are 8 pcs each, that is, American super snipers fired one missile at 1 Su-27, and the Chinese waited for them to be shot down. And if the F-22 missiles are suspended on external suspensions, then the advantage of invisibility will be lost.
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 12 March 2014 09: 34
        +1
        Quote: Com. T-64a
        6 f-22 against 72 su 27 shot down 48 sushkas

        The Americans told you about the victory laughing
        1. kontrol
          kontrol 12 March 2014 10: 58
          +1
          they won in Vietnam. laughing
      4. Deniska
        Deniska 12 March 2014 12: 25
        +4
        I’m at home online for a moment, 21 16 raptors also failed and I shot at the Pentagon wassat
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 12 March 2014 12: 47
          +5
          Quote: Deniska
          I’m at home online for a moment, 21 16 raptors also failed and I shot at the Pentagon
          Commander of the Strategic Missile Forces of the Russian Federation Colonel General Sergey Karakaev joined the service))
    2. Simon
      Simon 12 March 2014 08: 16
      +1
      And, for what money and advertising they paid for their "raptor". The mind is incomprehensible! So let them fight on their cows. laughing
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    4. alexng
      alexng 12 March 2014 08: 19
      +8
      Quote: ZU-23
      pro-raptors
      good

      The pro-raptors? I'm in touch. I ride with laughter. laughing
      But many did not believe that this fly swatter Fu-22 is just a "highly maneuverable" frying pan with a non-stick coating. There is nothing to say about the Fu-35 - a money washing machine.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 12 March 2014 08: 52
        +1
        Yeah, they made Tefalen models for Hollywood and fingers like a fan laughing
      2. The comment was deleted.
    5. igor36
      igor36 12 March 2014 09: 44
      +1
      Quote: ZU-23
      pro-raptors

      Rather pterodactyls ... laughing
  7. saag
    saag 12 March 2014 07: 57
    +3
    Yes, anything is enough that will destroy AWACS, jammers and refuelers will immediately turn off the war
  8. Mergen
    Mergen 12 March 2014 08: 05
    +17
    Looks like the fnxx ammo is infinite that as many as the 22 raptors have shot down the 6 su48! Miracles and only.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 12 March 2014 09: 30
      +5
      Quote: Mergen
      Looks like the fnxx ammo is infinite that as many as the 22 raptors have shot down the 6 su48! Miracles and only.


      Just Su-27 cut circles and waited until the invisible F-22 was tucked in the air with a visible large tanker, so that he would continue to shoot them down wassat
    2. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 12 March 2014 10: 52
      +5
      Quote: Mergen
      Looks like the fnxx ammo is infinite that as many as the 22 raptors have shot down the 6 su48! Miracles and only.

      Ctrl + R (reload) and no miracles ....
  9. aleksandrs95
    aleksandrs95 12 March 2014 08: 28
    +2
    I dare to suggest that the mass of light guided munitions for the T-50 will still be developed, given its low visibility and when significant damage to air defense and fighter aircraft is done, it is possible to complete the task with mosquito nets and numerous guided munitions on the ground, although the SU-34 will be True, they would have to be upgraded with a strong engine and a jamming container.
  10. bubla5
    bubla5 12 March 2014 09: 03
    -5
    As if the release of the T-50 is not morally obsolete
    1. Genry
      Genry 12 March 2014 10: 48
      +1
      The glider, by characteristics, is already close to the theoretical limit, and you can squeeze out a maximum of 5%.
      They will add artificial intelligence and will upgrade it ad infinitum.
      And the pilot must be removed, as a weak link (for overloads), greatly limits the speed * maneuverability.
      1. Deniska
        Deniska 12 March 2014 12: 37
        0
        One problem on the power plants existing and created according to this principle, with the design decisions of aerodynamics is almost the limit of speed and maneuverability. We need a new principle of motion in space.
        If for vacuum it is possible to develop ionic and plasma engines, then in atmospheric conditions a decrease in resistance is needed, and even better is a departure from physical forces.
        1. Danash I
          Danash I 12 March 2014 17: 19
          0
          If I am not mistaken (and I can) MHD generators were offered precisely as a new direction in aviation
  11. Mature Hrych
    Mature Hrych 12 March 2014 09: 40
    +2
    I can only rejoice for our defense industry. beautiful and powerful aircraft. So keep lucky you mastering new technologies.
  12. shnur1553
    shnur1553 12 March 2014 10: 43
    +1
    GOOD BIRD smile
  13. Const
    Const 12 March 2014 10: 58
    +1
    Judging by the description of the virtual model, 48 pcs. SU-27 just stood on a handbrake near some clouds and point blank did not see that they were being shot. And the remaining 24 pcs. Su-27 shot down only 14 aircraft of different classes, mind you, not very high-speed. It turns out that Sushki went on the attack with almost empty pylons if the first 48 pieces had nothing to shoot?
    This is just nonsense, and the author of the report on the results of virtual battles is not very adequate in assessing the capabilities of military aircraft. It would be better if N.N. Nosova read about the adventures of Dunno, there is more common sense, although this is a fairy tale for kids.
  14. tolyasik0577
    tolyasik0577 12 March 2014 11: 32
    0
    oh, well, thank God, even though this article on the forum defused the situation. Any reports about the T-50 are good news. Of course, you won't have to fight against the Americans, but you need to be ready for everything. You never know who else would think to give a couple of "washing machines" from our potential opponents.
  15. GRune
    GRune 12 March 2014 11: 38
    0
    Great car!
  16. shibi
    shibi 12 March 2014 12: 20
    0
    And against the maydanute banderlogs near the Crimean isthmus, the Po-2 squadron must be sent. Not a single radar will take)))
  17. shibi
    shibi 12 March 2014 12: 41
    +1
    Quote: Deniska
    One problem on the power plants existing and created according to this principle, with the design decisions of aerodynamics is almost the limit of speed and maneuverability. We need a new principle of motion in space.
    If for vacuum it is possible to develop ionic and plasma engines, then in atmospheric conditions a decrease in resistance is needed, and even better is a departure from physical forces.

    It is not necessary to move the body in space, but to push the space onto the body. Since in space it is easier to place a powerful engine for movement than on the body. good
  18. supertiger21
    supertiger21 12 March 2014 17: 03
    0
    The news about the PAK FA is encouraging, but the author's views are too optimistic. In his words, it is argued that "to destroy the target of the F-22 and F-35, you need to get as close as possible to the target, because their main weapon is small-radius missiles" - that with accuracy On the contrary, it is not true. The Americans just rely on shelling the enemy from a medium distance and at the same time remain invisible. And it is the rapprochement with the enemy that is the main prohibition in battle for American pilots, because their fighters are traditionally inferior in maneuverability to ours. If only this is It was not so, then the Americans would not focus on avionics and stealth technologies and took up maneuverability and speed like we do. Thus, the abused Khryaptor and Penguin can radically change the rules of air combat, which threatens all fighters. " not "5th generation, that is. even our Su-35 and MiG-35.
  19. asbaev
    asbaev 12 March 2014 20: 07
    0
    Pleasant feelings inspired by the article
  20. Sledgehammer
    Sledgehammer 13 March 2014 15: 31
    0
    In general, strange things are happening with American planes and their weapons.
    IR-guided missiles cannot be used (only if on external sling) melee is excluded,
    medium-range missiles are guided with illumination from the aircraft radar, but they will be off for stealth.
    Which of this is also true for the T-50, after all, did they keep the OELS? Or all the same, Amer. fighter jets
    effective only against third countries.
    1. supertiger21
      supertiger21 13 March 2014 17: 42
      0
      Quote: Sledgehammer
      In general, strange things are happening with American planes and their weapons.


      Maybe in some ways it is ...

      Quote: Sledgehammer
      IR-guided missiles cannot be used (only if on external sling) melee is excluded,


      Why can't it belay ? At F-22 and F-35 it is possible to place AIM-9 in internal compartments.

      Quote: Sledgehammer
      medium-range missiles are guided with illumination from the aircraft radar, but they will be off for stealth.


      Americans almost always use AWACS for medium-range fights, which is located hundreds of kilometers from the enemy. Yes, and it is no longer necessary to highlight the target for a long time, the latest modifications of the AIM-120 operate on the "fire and forget" principle.

      Quote: Sledgehammer
      Which of this is also true for the T-50, after all, did they keep the OELS?


      But they weren’t going to clean it up. Lockheed Martin also installed an OLS for Lightning.

      Quote: Sledgehammer
      Or all the same, Amer. fighters are effective only against third countries.


      Perhaps yes! The Americans plan to fight only with those whose technologies will be inferior to theirs. In Vietnam, they staged duel fights on the F-4 against a worthy enemy MiG-21, for which they paid. Since then they hunt enemy aircraft only in large "flocks ", and try to avoid any dog ​​fights. In other words, the Yankees do not like to fight worthy opponents.
      1. Sledgehammer
        Sledgehammer 13 March 2014 18: 42
        0
        Why it can’t? It is possible for the F-22 and F-35 to place the AIM-9 in the internal compartments.


        How missile homing heads will capture the target while in the internal compartment?

        Americans almost always use AWACS for medium-range fights, which is located hundreds of kilometers from the enemy. Yes, and it is no longer necessary to highlight the target for a long time, the latest modifications of the AIM-120 operate on the "fire and forget" principle.


        The latest modifications of the AIM-120 also need target illumination at the initial stage,
        her radar is not so long-range. I doubt that Avax can direct missiles,
        for this we need a target auto-tracking system, that is, directly and
        continuously irradiate the target. And the conditions will not always be ideal, reb opposition and aircraft like T-50. It’s hard to imagine that
        will be without Avax with amers.

        But they weren’t going to clean it up. Lockheed Martin also installed an OLS for Lightning.


        I read somewhere that they abandoned it in order to reduce the cost of the aircraft.
        1. Sledgehammer
          Sledgehammer 13 March 2014 19: 09
          0
          I read somewhere that they abandoned it in order to reduce the cost of the aircraft.

          Sory, they left OLS on f-35
          1. supertiger21
            supertiger21 13 March 2014 22: 00
            0
            Quote: Sledgehammer
            How missile homing heads will capture the target while in the internal compartment?


            Following this logic, then on PAK FA it means this is not possible))) It was about infrared guidance. "Shot and forget", the rocket itself will determine and destroy the target, by the thermal flashes of the nozzle.

            Quote: Sledgehammer
            The latest modifications of the AIM-120 also need a target illumination at the initial stage, its radar is not so long-range.


            I agree that it is needed at the launch stage, but then the rocket is already acting on its own.

            Quote: Sledgehammer
            I doubt that Avax can direct missiles, for this we need a target auto-tracking system, that is, directly and continuously irradiate the target.


            It seems that missiles with an active homing head do not need continuous irradiation of the target. Only at the launch stage (as I said above).

            Quote: Sledgehammer
            And the conditions will not always be ideal, reb confrontation and aircraft like T-50. It is hard to imagine that without Avax with amers.


            Well, these are already secondary factors that do not specifically relate to this or that fighter. We are talking about theory, but in practice anything can happen. The MiG-21 in the Iran-Iraq war even shot down F-14s, and F- 5 managed to shoot down the MiG-25. So the factors "and if the pilot", "and if the situation" must be discarded. In war, a lot can happen.
  21. mvv
    mvv 14 March 2014 12: 27
    0
    Well, sobssno what was required to prove - the United States is finally turning into a sawing-off defense budget. Therefore, they need color revolutions so that the rest would not have to build up their defense capabilities. It is terrible to think how many weapons Yugoslavia would buy from us, if not for war, But Iraq? What about Libya? Already sweated.
    1. supertiger21
      supertiger21 14 March 2014 19: 42
      0
      Quote: mvv
      The United States is finally turning into a sawn-off defense budget.


      They always had such a thing, but at the same time they always brought all their planes to mind. Everything that is expensive - that is, qualitatively (you need to remember it as an axiom).

      Quote: mvv
      It is terrible to think how many weapons Yugoslavia would buy from us, if not for war, But Iraq?


      Thanks to Uncle Yeltsin. He gave Russia's friends to torment the Western vultures. But the fruits of the "successful policy" of the 90s are already visible. Some CIS countries are already thinking about joining the European Union and NATO.

      Quote: mvv
      What about Libya?


      Thank you for this, our recent President Dmitry Anatolyevich Medvedev, who de facto supported the invasion of the United States, France and other allies in Libya. 3 years have passed, it's too late to think about the fate of Gaddafi and his people.
  22. Nationalist
    Nationalist 20 March 2014 03: 22
    +1
    Yes, respect to our designers !!!! only to the editors, if you translate any texts, then translate them to the end, otherwise it is incorrect to read "15 foot rockets" in the text.
  23. Am
    Am 28 March 2014 21: 36
    +1
    would have to wait already when it goes into service ... otherwise everything is always kept secret with us