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Thank you, Kazakhstan!

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Presidents of Kazakhstan and Russia Nursultan Nazarbayev and Vladimir Putin during a telephone conversation exchanged views on topical issues on the international agenda, including on the development of the socio-political situation in Ukraine, Interfax reports, citing the press service of the President of Kazakhstan.


"Nursultan Nazarbayev noted that Kazakhstan, as a strategic partner, treats with understanding the position of Russia defending the rights of national minorities in Ukraine, as well as the interests of its security," the press service said.

Nazarbayev expressed the hope that all interested participants will show restraint and will take measures for the early normalization of the situation through negotiations.

The President of Kazakhstan expressed his opinion on the need for a peaceful settlement of the crisis in Ukraine based on the preservation of sovereignty and in accordance with the norms of international law.

A spokesman for the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, confirmed to the agency that there had been a telephone conversation between the leaders of Russia and Kazakhstan. "It was discussed, including problems related to the current situation in Ukraine," he said.


Here's a news.

A little sad for the term "strategic partner". These, if I may say so, “strategic partners”, for the most part, are not partners. Or partners in a different way. Remember, advertising was so in MMM: "We are not freeloaders, we are partners"? Probably, since then, and not very pleasant implication of the word. For some. Because many of our “strategic partners” mumble indistinctly there, since they have no desire to go into an open quarrel with all of a sudden (in their opinion) Russia, standing in a bear pose. And with the owner, too, swearing is not comme il faut. But - such is the diplomatic protocol.

Once again, the world was divided into "they" and "we." Once again we have one, they have another. This is a war, albeit without fighting on the battlefield, but on a political and diplomatic level. Thank God, or rather Russian politicians and diplomats, for now.

Sometimes diplomatic language needs translation. I personally would like to translate the phrase “Kazakhstan, as a strategic partner, treats the position of Russia with understanding,” sounded from the lips of the President of Kazakhstan almost like “Guys, we all understand, we are with you”. Simple and tasteful.

Nazarbayev has the right to speak on behalf of the entire Kazakh people. This is not contested. Naturally, in the general mass of the people there are those who support him, and there are also those to whom he is not particularly fond. This is also normal.

But in the current situation, when not everyone openly declares agreement with the policy pursued by the leadership of our country towards Ukraine, without further ado, I just want to say one word to all of Kazakhstan. Thank!
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  1. Nayhas
    Nayhas 11 March 2014 10: 05
    -23%
    I personally would like to translate the phrase “Kazakhstan, as a strategic partner, with understanding refers to the position of Russia”, which almost sounded from the lips of the President of Kazakhstan as “Guys, we all understand, we are with you”

    A naive "Albanian youth". Neither Kazakhstan nor Belarus stuttered about supporting Russia.
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 11 March 2014 10: 15
      +42
      . Neither Kazakhstan nor Belarus stuttered about Russia's support.


      And this is not necessary! They will come with help as soon as Russia calls for it, or such a situation will develop! For these countries, by and large, there is no future without Russia!
      1. Yeraz
        Yeraz 11 March 2014 10: 38
        -34%
        Quote: rasputin17
        They will come with help as soon as Russia calls for it, or such a situation will develop!

        laughing
        1. RusKaz
          RusKaz 11 March 2014 10: 44
          +15
          Quote: Yeraz
          laughing

          point of view, what is there to laugh?

          (minus not me)
          1. Yeraz
            Yeraz 11 March 2014 13: 12
            -8
            Quote: RusKaz
            point of view, what is there to laugh?

            Well, just for all the time of independence in what did these countries support Russia ??? And the fact that a person speaks so confidently about such support, except for laughter, causes nothing to me)
            Quote: RusKaz
            minusanul not me

            I have not been paying attention to this for a long time)))
      2. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 11 March 2014 17: 03
        +24
        You are absolutely right compatriot!

        Without Russia, the USA, especially the other Central Asian countries, would dictate their own conditions and turn them into their colony, if they tried to accept another Iraq, Libya and so on.

        I would love to go to crush the fascist scum, along with the Russian comrades, like my grandfather in the 1940s. By the way, he reached Berlin, was twice wounded in the shoulder but survived, thanks to which I live. =)
        1. hommer
          hommer 11 March 2014 23: 34
          +9
          Quote: Max_Bauder
          I would love to go to crush the fascist scum, along with Russian comrades, like my grandfather in the 1940s


          Recently I found an answer to a question that constantly tormented me - why am I always a fan of sports in Russian teams? (exception - when they compete with Kazakhstani).

          Past songs cannot be taken away from us
          we have a Russian note for life
          I rejoice to know that again
          about ".. blink the Russians someone.

          P.S. I am also the grandson of a war veteran.
      3. Valrad
        Valrad 11 March 2014 20: 56
        +1
        I think they are afraid of the process in Ukraine. after all, people in Russia may also want from them.
    2. Letun
      Letun 11 March 2014 14: 32
      +3
      Quote: Nayhas
      I personally would like to translate the phrase “Kazakhstan, as a strategic partner, with understanding refers to the position of Russia”, which almost sounded from the lips of the President of Kazakhstan as “Guys, we all understand, we are with you”

      A naive "Albanian youth". Neither Kazakhstan nor Belarus stuttered about supporting Russia.

      But this is just short-sighted on their part, because neither Kazakhstan, nor even Belarus is completely immune from the Ukrainian scenario.
    3. Shpagolom
      Shpagolom 11 March 2014 15: 49
      +10
      ... I remind you ... in Kazakhstan and Belarus, the majority speak Russian very well ...
      ...... neither Lukashenko nor even Elbasy has speech defects ... (this is about stuttering) smile
    4. Roman Skomorokhov
      11 March 2014 16: 42
      +5
      I'm not a young man, alas. And even more so, not Albanian. And you are a stupid hamovin. And you don’t know how to read.
      1. Just Vasilich
        Just Vasilich 11 March 2014 17: 48
        +6
        Roman, your short note is half-hearted, it has a flip side:
        [quote] President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev and US President Barack Obama discussed the situation in Ukraine, confirming their interest in the peaceful resolution of the problems of this country, RIA Novosti reports with reference to the White House.

        "The leaders confirmed their common interest in finding a peaceful resolution to the dispute between Russia and Ukraine. They agreed that it is important to uphold the principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity."- said in a message from the White House.

        More details: http://tengrinews.kz/kazakhstan_news/nazarbaev-obsudil-s-obamoy-situatsiyu-na-uk
        raine-251715 / [quote]

        Nazarbayev - The Sly Fox.
      2. Nayhas
        Nayhas 11 March 2014 20: 27
        +3
        Quote: Banshee
        I'm not a young man, alas. And even more so, not Albanian. And you are a stupid hamovin. And you don’t know how to read.

        Did you notice the quotes? You are trying to see the sun where it is not, this is what RIANOVOSTI's partner, Novosti-Kazakhstan, writes, I quote the title of the article from March 11: "Obama and Nazarbayev confirmed the importance of maintaining the territorial integrity of Ukraine", http://www.newskaz.ru/politics/ 20140311 / 6235781.html
        If you are not a young man, as you say, then the safety of pink glasses frankly surprises you.
    5. Drummer
      Drummer 11 March 2014 18: 39
      +3
      That's exactly it.
  2. ehomenkov
    ehomenkov 11 March 2014 10: 09
    +14
    Ltd!! Nazarbayev - a terrible kalach - he knows what and where to say ... an Eastern treacherous ruler ...
    1. RusKaz
      RusKaz 11 March 2014 10: 11
      +8
      Quote: ehomenkov
      eastern treacherous ruler ...

      why insidious?
      1. INTER
        INTER 11 March 2014 11: 29
        +15
        Quote: RusKaz
        eastern treacherous ruler ...

        Unlike many, he was in difficult times for the country, unlike others, as the Dagestan proverb says: "I did not change my horse on the crossing" !!!! For which respect!
      2. Ivan.
        Ivan. 11 March 2014 12: 51
        +7
        Quote: RusKaz
        Quote: ehomenkov
        eastern treacherous ruler ...

        why insidious?

        Because he reserved the right to any surprise, but what he just said was more likely neutral and that’s right.
        1. RusKaz
          RusKaz 11 March 2014 14: 57
          +6
          Quote: Ivan.
          Because I left myself the right to any surprise

          Well, in my understanding (without looking into the dictionary), the insidious is a person who has a malicious intent, but hides it. But this is not. Nazarbayev is a cautious man, leaving himself room for maneuver maybe, but not insidious
          1. Ivan.
            Ivan. 11 March 2014 22: 56
            0
            Quote: RusKaz
            Nazarbayev is a cautious man, leaving himself room for maneuver maybe, but not insidious

            Put the quotes and everything will fall into place, the context is more important. - "You are insidious!" caught me at my word laughing
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 11 March 2014 13: 39
      -22%
      And what could Nazarbayev say? Two-thirds of Kazakhstan was donated by Russia. And judging by the standard of living, they may start referendums. The "rendering" of the names of Russian cities, towns, and streets is going too hastily.
      1. Andrey KZ
        Andrey KZ 11 March 2014 14: 07
        +6
        Quote: siberalt
        there is a "rendering" of the names of Russian cities, towns and streets.

        My children go to school No. 23 named after Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya. Near the school named after A.S. Pushkin. What is connected with communism, yes, it’s really renamed.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 11 March 2014 16: 52
          +1
          Quote: Andrey KZ
          My children go to school No. 23 named after Zoya Kosmodemyanskaya.

          Guys from Kazakhstan, tell me. Does the problem of "nagyz Kazakhs" and "shala Kazakhs" exist or is it far-fetched?
          1. Andrey KZ
            Andrey KZ 11 March 2014 17: 00
            +4
            Quote: baltika-18
            The problem of "nagyz Kazakhs" and "shala Kazakhs"

            I only read about this problem on the Internet, I think that it is far-fetched. Kazakhs can answer in more detail.
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 11 March 2014 17: 11
              +2
              Quote: Andrey KZ
              I only read about this problem on the Internet, I think that it is contrived

              But the whole point is that publications on this topic appear regularly, I tried to follow exactly for 15 years. And the well-known names even sound in Russia. Here I would like to know how everything is in the lower classes, in fact, not in the heads of the top.
            2. antibanukurayza
              antibanukurayza 12 March 2014 06: 49
              +3
              The problem of the Nagaz of the Kazakhs and the shawl of the Kazakhs was invented by a handful of Kazakhs-KVN-schiki. I am Kazakh, but I have no problems with the Russian language, like my whole family. I speak fluently and read both Kazakh and Russian. Shalakazakhism was invented by the Oralmans to compensate for the unwillingness and inability to learn Russian. The problem of Nagy Kazakhs was invented by them. Now they are picked up by the KVN workers and ranked all over the world. Here.
          2. Alibekulu
            Alibekulu 11 March 2014 17: 23
            +8
            Quote: baltika-18
            Does the problem of "nagyz Kazakhs" and "shala Kazakhs" exist or is it far-fetched?
            ..
            Quote: Andrey KZ
            I only read about this problem on the Internet, I think that it is contrived.
            So among the Kazakhs they are looking for "fault lines" to put pressure on pain points, play off and oppose. As ancient as the world "divide and rule" policy
            And, as we see, the "Ukrainian version" is being worked out for the Republic of Kazakhstan too recourse
            There is a problem, if you can call it a problem ..
            But, in case of external aggression, the Kazakhs will act as a united front - both "nagyz" and "shala" ..
            So, look elsewhere .. Contact the Scandinafs and Korean tankmen .. wink
          3. blizart
            blizart 11 March 2014 18: 37
            +11
            Guys from Kazakhstan, tell me. Does the problem of "nagyz Kazakhs" and "shala Kazakhs" exist or is it far-fetched?
            Well, I'll try to answer ... All the same, this phenomenon cannot be called a problem. Just long-term close cohabitation with the people, so to speak, "first line", gives rise to multiple complex processes in the "projected" society. The object of history always wants to become a subject. The degree of dissatisfaction with "following someone's fairway" is different in different strata of society, in different age groups, in different regions. But in general, if the authorities are considered a kind of concentrated expression of the public opinion, then Kazakhstan's attitude to Russia is balanced and honest, which is proved by Nazarbayev's statement. We take your side in an indistinct quarrel with the people who, in fact, are your own part. It's like getting into someone else's family, which is known to be darkness. And nevertheless, the Kazakhs go for it, as a person constantly rotating among not just Kazakhs, but armed Kazakhs, I responsibly declare. Despite some inevitable discrepancies in our common history, Kazakhs treat Russians with more sympathy than Hungarians, Bulgarians and Poles combined.
            1. Bi_Murza
              Bi_Murza 11 March 2014 19: 13
              +3
              correctly said
        2. xorgi
          xorgi 11 March 2014 19: 56
          -3
          for Andrey KZ
          where did you see communism in the name of the city of Ermak? and Peace Street? and talk about renaming Pavlodar?
        3. nikcris
          nikcris 11 March 2014 21: 39
          -2
          Offhand. Was the Port Arthur settlement in the Urals region related to communism? You tie with mankurtstvo. negative
          Do you have to announce the whole list of renaming?
          1. Andrey KZ
            Andrey KZ 12 March 2014 08: 44
            +1
            Quote: nikcris
            You tie with mankurtstvo.

            Mankurt, according to the novel by Chingiz Aitmatov "Storm stop" ("And the day lasts longer than a century") is a captured person, turned into a soulless slave creature, completely subordinate to the owner and not remembering anything from a previous life. Have I forgotten the Russian language and Slavic culture? sibiralt said that everything Russian was being "rendered", I said that this is not entirely true. Where did you see mankurt here?
        4. nikcris
          nikcris 11 March 2014 21: 41
          -3
          Sometimes former neighbors are furious.
      2. Bi_Murza
        Bi_Murza 11 March 2014 19: 07
        +3
        you're wrong dear
  3. RusKaz
    RusKaz 11 March 2014 10: 10
    +4
    Wah! .......
  4. rasputin17
    rasputin17 11 March 2014 10: 11
    +20
    "Kazakhstan, as a strategic partner, is sympathetic to the position of Russia," which almost sounded from the lips of the President of Kazakhstan as "Guys, we all understand, we are with you." Simple and tasteful.


    For 300 years, the Kazakh khans turned to Russia for help and promised to be its loyal friends and support in this region, and now they are pursuing the same policy. Kazakhstan is now represented by N.A. Nazarbayev confirms his position in all affairs and issues of Russia. Kazakhstan does not have a question of choosing a partner and friend, he is and friendship with him will be a priority in all his affairs!
    1. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 11 March 2014 17: 18
      +1
      ON THE. Nazarbayev confirms his position in all affairs and issues of Russia
      I would like to add that in order to call any city in Kazakhstan from Russia, you do not need to dial the international code, i.e. You can call as inside Russia through 8. hi
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  5. Kazakh
    Kazakh 11 March 2014 10: 14
    +33
    Kazakhs are closer to me brothers than Galicians drinks
    1. INTER
      INTER 11 March 2014 11: 32
      +9
      Quote: Kazakh
      Kazakhs are closer to me brothers than Galicians

      Only in the unity of our countries is our strength. Both Kazakhs and we can not live without each other. Too big and tasty for the jackals.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        11 March 2014 16: 43
        +3
        Jackals will burst. Definitely.
  6. I_VOIN_I
    I_VOIN_I 11 March 2014 10: 24
    +12
    I personally know two Kazakhs, great guys) But Nazarbayev built a lot of things in Kazakhstan and remembers the story.
    1. malikszh
      malikszh 11 March 2014 11: 19
      +4
      Yes, he only builds Astana, see our roads and other settlements
  7. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 11 March 2014 10: 27
    -6
    While we are dealing with Ukraine, as if in Kazakhstan, the booze has not started .. The fifth columns, both in Russia and Kazakhstan, have lurked and are waiting for the team fas .. The silence is somehow alarming.
    1. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 11 March 2014 11: 07
      +12
      Nazarbayev is not Yanukovych. Liberals will raise buzu, immediately reduce their livestock to harmless.
    2. malikszh
      malikszh 11 March 2014 12: 06
      -10%
      The leadership of Kazakhstan has a lot of experience in suppressing the rally. These are 1986 Almaty and 2011 Jean Ozen. Demanding salary workers were not a hint of political demand by the combat bullets.
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt 11 March 2014 13: 44
        -1
        In Alma-Ata, the Kazakhs started buzu, but they did not suppress the rebellion. Jean Ozen is already Kazakh.
        1. T80UM1
          T80UM1 11 March 2014 15: 30
          +2
          Who? Russians? Kazakhs were in the Ministry of Internal Affairs in 1986.
          1. malikszh
            malikszh 11 March 2014 17: 05
            +4
            In 1986, the NAS was the chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Kaz SSR!
          2. Clegg
            Clegg 11 March 2014 20: 30
            +2
            Quote: T80UM1
            Kazakhs were in the Ministry of Internal Affairs in 1986.

            Typically, in such cases, riot police are imported from another region. If I’m not mistaken, there were riot policemen from Nosibirsk. In Zhanaozen were from Karaganda and Shymkent
            1. Alibekulu
              Alibekulu 11 March 2014 21: 51
              +4
              Quote: Clegg
              Typically, in such cases, riot police are imported from another region. If I am not mistaken from Nososibirsk there were riot policemen.
              It slipped on the internet that the Ufa riot police refused to participate in the dispersal, in Alma-Ata in 1986 ... what
    3. Alex_T
      Alex_T 11 March 2014 13: 43
      +6
      The fifth column here in Kazakhstan is fully operational. This is clearly visible in local forums. When discussing politics and especially the events in Ukraine, 2-3 registered and a bunch of guest commentators constantly slop the RF policy and incite the current authorities of the Republic of Kazakhstan. But such, while in the minority.
  8. belyi60
    belyi60 11 March 2014 10: 45
    +23
    We in Kazakhstan do not need any buza. This is how I say Kazakh Kazakh.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 11 March 2014 11: 38
      +2
      Quote: belyi60
      We in Kazakhstan do not need any buza. This is how I say Kazakh Kazakh.

      But Nazarbayev will soon turn 74 years old, do you think it will last a long time? Who do you see in the heirs? I hope you will not assure that it depends on the choice of citizens of Kazakhstan?
      1. Andrey KZ
        Andrey KZ 11 March 2014 11: 46
        +6
        Quote: Nayhas
        I hope you will not assure that it depends on the choice of citizens of Kazakhstan?
        The presidential candidate, who will preach radical views, has no chance of winning the election in Kazakhstan.
        1. TS3sta3
          TS3sta3 11 March 2014 12: 27
          -1
          not for us to decide.
        2. Ivan.
          Ivan. 11 March 2014 13: 01
          +2
          Quote: Andrey KZ
          The presidential candidate, who will preach radical views, has no chance of winning the election in Kazakhstan.

          Here the problem is different, in Ukraine people voted for those who promised and then threw it. The question is whether Kazakhstan will be able to drop such a Judas. Here, of great importance is whose interests serve the SMD, if not popular, then this is dangerous, because they will quickly bring about a split.
          1. marshes
            marshes 11 March 2014 13: 05
            +4
            Quote: Ivan.
            . The question is whether Kazakhstan will be able to drop such a Judas.

            And who are you to call our president Judas?
            Whom he betrayed, but you are not a citizen of our country, do not run into rudeness ...
            1. Ivan.
              Ivan. 11 March 2014 22: 47
              +2
              Quote: marshes
              Quote: Ivan.
              . The question is whether Kazakhstan will be able to drop such a Judas.

              And who are you to call our president Judas?
              Whom he betrayed, but you are not a citizen of our country, do not run into rudeness ...

              It is necessary to read more carefully, it was about the consequences if, after the incumbent president, a two-faced promise comes to power (by analogy with Ukraine). And on the account of who I am reporting: I am as ordinary a person as you are. laughing Questions?
              1. marshes
                marshes 12 March 2014 00: 03
                +1
                Quote: Ivan.
                if, after the incumbent president, a two-faced promise comes to power (by analogy with Ukraine).

                Our mentality is conservative, we will vote for who the current government will point to, we have something to lose. Moreover, there are a lot of examples.
      2. T80UM1
        T80UM1 11 March 2014 15: 31
        +3
        Tasmagambetov, a real candidate, I do not see others yet.
        1. Netrocker
          Netrocker 15 March 2015 14: 36
          0
          It’s not a ride, all the same, the origin and traditions are of great importance to us - since the time of the Kazakh Khanate, the representatives of the Younger Zhuz could not claim the supreme power, only from the Middle and Senior Zhuz ...
          Except that the NAS himself will nominate him ...
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 11 March 2014 10: 50
    +3
    Hope for Kazakhstan, but don’t be too bad ..
  10. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 11 March 2014 11: 01
    +10
    In this situation, another position of Kazakhstan as
    on the need for a peaceful settlement of the crisis in Ukraine based on the preservation of sovereignty and in accordance with international law
    I personally did not expect, multi-vector has always been in fashion in the east. But the fact that the people of Kazakhstan in the majority support the position of Russia is true.
  11. malikszh
    malikszh 11 March 2014 11: 05
    +5
    We, Kazakhstan have no choice, what will not support Russia? 70% of the territory is bordered by Russia, 50% of the population are Russian-speaking, Russia feeds us and sells equipment (we don’t produce anything, we just buy), we have strategic training grounds. If we start like the European Union, then we will definitely lose 80% of the territory.
    1. Mergen
      Mergen 11 March 2014 11: 20
      +6
      East is not West, and Kazakhstan will not climb into the European Union, we are Asia. And NAS understands this perfectly. The Ottoman Empire decided to imitate Europe, and we know what happened to it
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    3. bazilio
      bazilio 11 March 2014 11: 21
      +9
      Quote: malikszh
      We, Kazakhstan, have no choice than to support Russia

      Here you are right. Although it’s probably worth adding, there is no choice, and inappropriately. To be friends with a neighbor is reasonably logical and justified (even if you do not take into account historical and cultural ties).
    4. bazilio
      bazilio 11 March 2014 11: 21
      0
      Quote: malikszh
      We, Kazakhstan, have no choice than to support Russia

      Here you are right. Although it’s probably worth adding, there is no choice, and inappropriately. To be friends with a neighbor is reasonably logical and justified (even if you do not take into account historical and cultural ties).
    5. Zymran
      Zymran 11 March 2014 11: 30
      +4
      Quote: malikszh
      Russia feeds us


      Do not la la. We don’t ask anything from the Russian Federation for free. We pay the bills for everything. Plus, Kazakhstan for nothing supplies Russia with gas from Karachaganak, which then goes to Europe for a much higher price.

      Quote: malikszh
      and sells equipment


      We can buy in any other country. True, with the TS it became difficult.

      Quote: malikszh
      If we start like the European Union, then we will definitely lose 80% of the territory.


      Yes, after the Budapest memorandum it remains only to wipe.
      1. malikszh
        malikszh 11 March 2014 12: 09
        0
        You yourself admit that the TS has tied us, whether we buy or not, but all the same, Russian goods are in stores.
      2. serzhserzh86
        serzhserzh86 11 March 2014 12: 14
        +2
        Russia gives us weapons for free (I don’t know about the S-300 ???) we don’t pay anything to Russia ... and we can’t buy equipment in any other country, foreigners will leave them without pants ...
        1. Zymran
          Zymran 11 March 2014 12: 21
          +2
          Quote: serzhserzh86

          Russia gives us free weapons (about s-300 not in the know ???)


          Do you know that this is an outdated version decommissioned from combat duty in the Russian Federation, which requires repair? And multi-million. Who will pay for this?

          Quote: serzhserzh86
          on accounts we pay nothing to Russia


          Do not lala.

          Quote: serzhserzh86
          and we cannot buy equipment in any other country, foreigners will leave without pants ...


          Equipment became expensive only because of the vehicle. And then ours buy John Deere combines in the USA, medical equipment in Europe, French Exocet missiles, European equipment for various factories and much more.
        2. malikszh
          malikszh 11 March 2014 12: 41
          +2
          nothing happens for free, for that they don’t pay for renting landfills (these are Azgyr, Taisoigan, Emba and Saryshagan)
        3. Kasym
          Kasym 11 March 2014 13: 57
          +12
          Sergey, it’s naive to think that something goes for free. It is certainly wonderful that we received the S-300, which we have been asking for since independence. But it needs to be invested there, and the Russian Federation is very profitable - there is no need to saturate with air defense systems in Kazakhstan. border, when it is possible to push the safety of airspace to 1800 km. South .
          About Karachaganak. There is an agreement with Uzbekistan that we receive Uzbek gas in the South for our own needs, and we give it in the North. Second, gas from Karachaganak goes to Orenburg for processing (at this plant Kazakhstan has a share of 50% for $ 1 billion, when its construction would cost at least 2 billion) and Gazprom does not need this gas for free without our gas. It was built special. for processing our gas. That is, we earn on this processing. And the third, according to the statement of the leadership of KazMunayGas this year, Karachaganak goes to profit (that is, all the investments of investors paid off) and Kazakhstan will now receive 80% of the profit from it, although we have a share of only 10% in this field. The republic’s leadership also stated that we would build a gas pipeline from Orenburg to the south of Kazakhstan (I don’t know at what level this statement is located, that is, whether it is being built or not).
          During the "gas war" on gas transit through Ukraine between the West and Russia, Nazarbayev made a statement in Berlin. Its essence is as follows. If the West does not understand that the delivery of energy resources there is not only a problem of suppliers. If consumers don't understand this, then we have an alternative in the East. It was like a tub of cold water for the West, that is, Kazakhstan supported its ally - Russia. Since then, Kazakhstan and Russia have been intensively building infrastructure to the East. Kazakhstan has already built an oil pipeline to China for 10 mil. tons (with expansion up to 20 mil.) of which 7 were given to Rosneft, and a gas pipeline. Russia is also building. So, on this issue, the Republic of Kazakhstan and the Russian Federation act as a united front. It is clear that the West is not delighted with such actions, but nothing can be done. hi
      3. Ivan.
        Ivan. 11 March 2014 13: 11
        +2
        Quote: Zymran
        Plus Kazakhstan for nothing supplies the Russian Federation gas from Karachaganak, which then goes to Europe for a much higher price.

        Deliver it yourself and make sure that it will not be cheaper. The cost of production is one thing, the delivery of thousands of kilometers is another.
    6. Yeraz
      Yeraz 11 March 2014 13: 14
      +1
      Quote: malikszh
      Russia feeds us

      belay
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 11 March 2014 14: 21
        +7
        Ali, hello! I, too, had this statement malikszh puzzled. I remember when there was a drought in the Russian Federation and Ukraine, we reserved 1 million tons of grain.
        In fact, the CU countries can well ensure their food security. In Kazakhstan, in connection with the creation of the TS, they seriously took up rural households. Under Alma-Ata, Taraz, Chimkent, you can now see the construction of greenhouses. Planned work is underway to develop livestock production - the government there already provided for the injection of budget money this year. There was a prospect for our sugar factories (three near Taldy-Kurgan, one near Alma-Ata, one in Merka, one in Taraz). They promised the state. order for sugar beets. For a long time, the Food Corporation has been working with us on grain (elevators and state procurement from manufacturers). There was also a statement by the authorities on the construction of vegetable depots. hi
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 11 March 2014 15: 09
          +4
          Quote: Kasym
          Ali, hello!

          Aleikuma!
          Quote: Kasym
          In fact, the CU countries can well ensure their food security.

          Quite mildly, there is enormous potential.
          1. Kasym
            Kasym 11 March 2014 16: 47
            +6
            Ali, it seems to me that the moment is coming when our 3 countries need to distribute their efforts. I.e . Belarus was famous for its potatoes, we are early vegetables and fruits, Russia is fodder grain, etc. It is necessary to agree who will do what more densely. Then the effect will be faster and more significant. Why create competition where it is not necessary. It is clear, for example. that it’s better to engage in fish in the Russian Federation - she has all the trump cards here, we are from animal husbandry, sheep and horse breeding. Etc, etc ..
            1. Bi_Murza
              Bi_Murza 11 March 2014 19: 23
              +1
              Kasym Jaraisin
        2. serzhserzh86
          serzhserzh86 25 March 2014 12: 55
          0
          Kasym, about the greenhouses - loudly said ...
          I was in different greenhouses:
          1. Ust-Kamenogorsk. vegetables are grown ... I doubt that they are enough for EKO ...
          2. Tekeli. So there are generally flowers.
          3. Captcha. Greenhouse once ... twenty less than Ust-Kamenogorsk ...
          Money for greenhouses is allocated in small batches. They think a penny to pay for the same e / energy ...
          At the same time, the greenhouse near Kapchagay - whose do you know? yes, dutch. so something like that.
    7. Beck
      Beck 14 March 2014 09: 15
      0
      Quote: malikszh
      We, Kazakhstan have no choice,


      There is always a choice, even between bad and very bad.

      I don’t understand the author. The diplomatic, streamlined, non-specific, non-binding, vague statements that are accepted in international relations in certain cases, to call direct support somehow do not fit with an unambiguous interpretation.

      NAN is a cautious person and he sees further. Not Russia, but the Kremlin, in the spirit of hurray and "non-gathering" of lands, can push the northern regions of Kazakhstan to referendums similar to those in Crimea. Fortunately, the Duma has already adopted the law on the annexation of other territories and other countries to Russia. The law violates all international laws.

      And this is alarming, because CSTO, the Customs Union, and the Eurasian Economic Space may order it to live for a long time.
  12. buzer
    buzer 11 March 2014 11: 18
    +4
    It seems that the Maydauns realized that 1) Crimea will leave, 2) they will not be accepted into the EU, but at the same time they will crawl in full, 3) the country will fly to its full ass, 4) it will not get out of Russia without Russia. But!!! But Putin is not going to talk to them. Categorically!!! But there is a way! More precisely, a hint. Nazarbayev, through his statement, makes it clear to the dumb-headed maydauns that he should speak with Putin not through Obama, not through Merkel, but through him ...
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 11 March 2014 13: 13
      +2
      Quote: buzer
      Looks like the maydauns got it

      This is not so, but those who are aware of this before. We are waiting for the deceived majority to see.
  13. riding
    riding 11 March 2014 11: 29
    -2
    There are no high-profile statements from Kazakhstan and Belarus. Support is very modest. Although Govorukhin recently noted that in Belarus, thank God, there is no Yushchenko
    1. Andrey KZ
      Andrey KZ 11 March 2014 11: 42
      +13
      Quote: koni
      There are no high-profile statements from Kazakhstan and Belarus

      And what for, excuse me, waving a saber? Nureke is doing everything right. Ukraine- BROTHER country, fraternal people and a platform for negotiations should be left. If Kazakhstan mediates in the negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, this will be a plus for everyone. Kazakhstan will declare itself in the international arena, and Russia will show that it is open for dialogue if it is not conducted from the standpoint of threats by sanctions.
      1. Zymran
        Zymran 11 March 2014 11: 46
        +10
        Quote: Andrey KZ
        And what for, excuse me, waving a saber? Nureke is doing everything right. Ukraine- BROTHER country, fraternal people and a platform for negotiations should be left. If Kazakhstan mediates in the negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, this will be a plus for everyone. Kazakhstan will declare itself in the international arena, and Russia will show that it is open for dialogue if it is not conducted from the standpoint of threats by sanctions.


        Here, I fully support. And frankly, I am surprised how many Russian users here speak of their truly fraternal Ukrainian people.
        1. Manul
          Manul 11 March 2014 12: 18
          +5
          Quote: Zymran
          And frankly, I am surprised how many Russian users here speak of their truly fraternal Ukrainian people.

          Those who do not chant - m..lei on knives, brothers remain. And those who are imbued with the ideas of our national enemy - not like brothers, neighbors no longer have the right to be called. They are a shabby broom in tolerant Europe or America.
          1. Sour
            Sour 11 March 2014 13: 58
            0
            Quote: Manul
            And those who are imbued with the ideas of our national enemy

            Our main enemy now is Ukraine.
            Just don't say it's the USA or Germany. There are no monuments to the SS men. And no one shouts "Russians for knives" there.
            I have no doubt that Turchinov and Yatsenyuk (I’m not talking about Tyagnibok and Yarosh) hate Russia a thousand times more than Obama or Merkel.
            We are all accustomed to seeing the main enemy overseas, and those who have long been suffocating from hatred of Russia are "brotherly people". It's time to refresh your perception of the world. The enemy is near. And it is Ukraine that is trying to incite the West against Russia.
            1. Manul
              Manul 11 March 2014 17: 02
              +1
              Quote: Sour
              Our main enemy now is Ukraine.

              Don’t speak for all people. There are many friends, there are many relatives there. And the majority of stupid people will see right away if they shut up their lying media at once and show the whole truth. Prove that the authorities are now criminals, because of which blood was pouring. While there is an opportunity, we must believe in the best. And in people, too.
            2. 225chay
              225chay 11 March 2014 17: 44
              +3
              Quote: Sour
              Our main enemy now is Ukraine.

              Quote: Sour
              We are all accustomed to seeing the main enemy overseas, and those who have long been suffocating from hatred of Russia are "brotherly people". It's time to refresh your perception of the world. The enemy is near. And it is Ukraine that is trying to set the West on Russia

              Quote: Sour
              I have no doubt that Turchinov and Yatsenyuk (I’m not talking about Tyagnibok and Yarosh) hate Russia a thousand times

              The people of Ukraine are not an enemy by definition. This is a brotherly people!
              Ukraine does not set the West against Russia, it is done by cunning pi ... ry.
              Yaytsenyuki, Turks, Tyagniboki and Yaroshi, along with nicknames and Yulki Kapitelmanami to the people of Ukraine have no relation.
              And Bandera, too, has little blood relationship with the Slavic people. Former residents of the Austro-Hungarian empire ...
        2. Yeraz
          Yeraz 11 March 2014 13: 17
          -10%
          Quote: Zymran
          . And frankly, I am surprised how many Russian users here speak of their truly fraternal Ukrainian people.

          In Russia, there is a saying Russian to the Russian enemy)) so that all the rules. Only Belarusians are left and relations with them will deteriorate in the future, a matter of time.
          1. avt
            avt 11 March 2014 13: 39
            +7
            Quote: Yeraz
            In Russia, there is a proverb Russian Russian enemy)) t

            laughing No, the Germans have already written history to us, now the Azerbaijanis will write Russian sayings? Why did they suddenly start? They don’t need to be afraid, no one will send troops into Azerbaijan. But markets in Moscow can be cleaned from criminal diasporas at a time.
            Quote: Yeraz
            Only Belarusians remained and relations with them in the future will deteriorate, a matter of time.

            And this is our business, read Pushkin - it helps.
            "

            What are you noisy about, folk-like?
            Why anathema threaten you Russia?
            What angered you? unrest in Lithuania?
            Leave: this is a dispute between the Slavs,
            Home, old dispute, weighted by fate,
            A question that you will not solve.

            For a long time among themselves
            These tribes are at war;
            More than once bowed under a thunderstorm
            Theirs, then our side.
            Who will stand in an unequal dispute:
            Puffy Lyakh, il true Ross?
            Will Slavic streams merge in the Russian sea?
            Will it run dry? here is the question.

            Leave us: you have not read
            These bloody tablets;
            It’s incomprehensible to you, alien to you
            This is a family feud;
            The Kremlin and Prague are silent for you;
            Pointlessly seduces you
            Fights of desperate courage -
            And you hate us ...

            For what? answer: for whether
            What is on the ruins of flaming Moscow
            We did not recognize the brazen will
            Who were you trembling under?
            For the fact that they plunged into the abyss
            We are idol over kingdoms
            And redeemed with our blood
            Europe, freedom, honor and peace? ..
            You are formidable in words - try in practice!
            Or the old hero, deceased on his bed,
            Unable to screw up your Izmail bayonet?
            Is the Russian tsar already powerless to speak?
            Or should we argue with Europe new?
            Il Russian weaned from victories?
            Or a little of us? Or from Perm to Tauris,
            From the Finnish cold rocks to the flaming Colchis,
            From the shocked Kremlin
            To the walls of immobile China,
            Shiny bristles,
            Will not the Russian land rise? ..
            So send us, vitias,
            His angry sons:
            There is a place for them in the fields of Russia,
            Among the coffins that are not theirs.

            1831
            A.S. Pushkin. Works in three volumes.
            St. Petersburg: The Golden Age, Diamond, 1997.
            1. Yeraz
              Yeraz 11 March 2014 15: 13
              -3
              Quote: avt
              No, the Germans have already written history to us, now the Azerbaijanis will write Russian sayings?

              Well, I'm sorry I heard this from the Russians, and not from non-Russians. Yes, and according to observations, it was often confirmed.
              Quote: avt
              No need to be afraid, no one will send troops into Azerbaijan

              And what does this have to do with it? Of course, there will be no way to cope with the Muslims of the North Caucasus, but here the largest Muslim republic of the Caucasus within the Russian Federation will bring a lot of problems))
              Quote: avt
              But markets in Moscow can be cleaned from criminal diasporas at a time.

              try. Only these structures are closely interconnected with the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and not for the beautiful eyes.
              Quote: avt
              And this is our business

              Speak the truth. I am somehow violet.
              1. avt
                avt 11 March 2014 15: 56
                +5
                Quote: Yeraz
                try. Only these structures are closely interconnected with the FSB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and not for the beautiful eyes.

                Already the Azeri brothers that "European" are kept, right after the vegetable base they put money on money, so that they would not lose their scent and dizzy, there really is a third shareholder - a Jew, he can see and agree. And then - why scandalize when you can calmly on a quiet place to explain.
                Quote: Yeraz
                Well, I'm sorry I heard this from the Russians, and not from non-Russians. Yes, and according to observations, it was often confirmed

                I, too, though from the Chechen Avtorkhanov, heard that the Caucasians don't like when someone "got up" from their own - they immediately start clicking their teeth at their neighbor. And what? No, the Cyrillic alphabet of course was introduced, but proverbs on their behalf were not composed for anyone.
                Quote: Yeraz
                Speak the truth. I am somehow violet.

                laughing ,, Oh, you're lying! You're lying to the Tsar! "From the candidate of financial institutions, Ivan Vasilyevich changes his profession."
                1. Yeraz
                  Yeraz 11 March 2014 16: 12
                  0
                  Quote: avt
                  Already the Azeri brothers that "European" are kept, they put money on the money after the vegetable base, so that they would not lose their scent and dizzy, there really is a third shareholder - a Jew, he could see and agreed

                  This is how Azerbaijanis keep it and put their own money. Well and up)
                  Quote: avt
                  I, too, though from the Chechen Avtorkhanov, heard that well, Caucasians don't like when someone "got up" from their own - they immediately start clicking their teeth at a neighbor. And what?

                  Everyone has it, but the degree is different.
                  Quote: avt
                  , Oh, you're lying! You're lying to the Tsar! "From the candidate of financial institutions, Ivan Vasilyevich is changing his profession."

                  Honestly, not a gram. For Ukraine, I worry, Ukrainians have always been closer somehow, maybe there are more mixes with the Turks, and Belarusians, as they say, are west and east and Belarus buried like partisans)))
                  1. avt
                    avt 11 March 2014 17: 08
                    0
                    Quote: Yeraz
                    , somehow we were always closer, maybe there are more confusion with the Turks, and more,

                    laughing laughing laughing good Already amused, so amused! This is all about "mixing with the Turks" straight away and to Lviv! That would be another answer to hear from them from the Maidan. Well, for sure, "a letter to the Turkish Sultan of the Cossacks" will be high society correspondence.
                    1. Yeraz
                      Yeraz 11 March 2014 21: 25
                      +3
                      Quote: avt
                      Already amused, so amused!

                      Well, this is my perception. The Ukrainian language has more Turkic tones than Russian, and there are a lot of black Ukrainians)) And they are different in behavior. Although I met such Russians, but they are more from Rostov and those regions that Ukrainians consider theirs)
        3. Drummer
          Drummer 11 March 2014 18: 57
          +3
          I agree completely. The second one also surprises, so much poison has been poured on the Internet in recent days. Then it will be a shame.
      2. TS3sta3
        TS3sta3 11 March 2014 12: 26
        +5
        Russia will not agree with the Nazis who seized power in Kiev - Putin said so.
  14. Zymran
    Zymran 11 March 2014 11: 35
    +5
    Here from the official website of the president:


    Telephone conversation with the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin
    10.03.2014
    phone calls

    During the conversation, the leaders of the two countries exchanged views on pressing issues of the international agenda, including regarding the development of the socio-political situation in Ukraine.

    Nursultan Nazarbayev noted that Kazakhstan, as a strategic partner, with understanding refers to the position of Russiaprotecting the rights of national minorities in Ukraine, as well as the interests of its security.

    The head of state expressed hope that all interested participants would exercise restraint and take measures to normalize the situation as soon as possible. by negotiation.

    The President of Kazakhstan expressed his opinion on the need for peacefulcrisis management in Ukraine based on maintaining sovereigntyand in accordance with international law.



    Telephone conversation with the Federal Chancellor of Germany Angela Merkel
    10.03.2014
    phone calls


    The leaders of the two states discussed the state and prospects of Kazakh-German bilateral relations, as well as issues of expanding trade and economic cooperation in the context of the agreements reached during the visit of the President of Kazakhstan to Germany.

    In addition, Nursultan Nazarbayev and Angela Merkel exchanged views on pressing issues on the international agenda, including the development of the domestic political situation in Ukraine.

    During the conversation, the President of Kazakhstan confirmed importance of diplomatic settlement the Ukrainian crisis through dialogue between all interested parties, using possible mechanisms of international mediation to ensure territorial integrity of this country, and also rejection of mutual threatsand ultimatums.

    Nursultan Nazarbayev expressed readiness of Kazakhstan to contribute, if necessary, its own constructive contributionto work out compromise solutions for the peaceful resolution of the situation in Ukraine.
    1. avt
      avt 11 March 2014 11: 59
      +2
      Quote: Zymran
      Here from the official website of the president:

      He said everything normally. “Sometimes diplomatic language needs translation. I personally would like to translate the phrase “Kazakhstan, as a strategic partner, is sympathetic to the position of Russia”, which sounded from the lips of the President of Kazakhstan almost like “Guys, we understand everything, we are with you”. Simple and tasteful. "-------- laughing Actually, the language was given to the diplomat in order to hide his thoughts. Well, why should Kazakhstan climb into our Big Game with the West and the Americans in particular ??? He will sit in Astana and wait for someone to take. In his position, the only right decision is not to get into a showdown between the Big Game Players. Yes, and we don’t need any extra moves in the region from the arrogant Saxons, all the more provoked by some kind of spontaneous statements and all the more from the Elbasy’s actions. Here's the position of a peacemaker with him winning - no one will call anyway. So everything is doing right.
    2. marshes
      marshes 11 March 2014 12: 37
      +3
      Hi Zymran, Obama has not called for a long time, it turns out.
      So we will probably be the "breeders".
      1. Zymran
        Zymran 11 March 2014 12: 40
        +5
        Zdarov, Swamps.

        Here is from Obama:

        Barack Obama discussed with the President of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev the situation in Ukraine
        11 March 2014, 10: 04

        The leaders reaffirmed their common interest in finding a peaceful resolution to the dispute between Russia and Ukraine.
        Source: RIA "News"

        US President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden discussed with the leaders of Kazakhstan, Spain and Cyprus the situation in Ukraine, confirming their interest in the peaceful resolution of the problems of this country, RIA Novosti reported with reference to the White House.

        Obama, in a telephone conversation with Kazakh President Nursultan Nazarbayev, called on the Central Asian republic to play an active role in finding a peaceful solution to Ukraine's problems. "The leaders confirmed their common interest in finding a peaceful solution to the dispute between Russia and Ukraine. They agreed that it is important to uphold the principles of sovereignty and territorial integrity," the statement reads.

        Obama also had a conversation about events in Ukraine with Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy.

        US Vice President Joe Biden discussed regional issues, including the situation in Ukraine, with the head of Cyprus, Nikos Anastasiadis. “Both leaders reaffirmed their strong support for the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine within its internationally recognized borders and consulted on steps that could lead to a de-escalation of the situation and its peaceful resolution,” the White House said in a statement.

        A political crisis broke out in Ukraine at the end of November 2013, when the Cabinet announced the suspension of the country's European integration. Mass actions, called "Euromaidan", took place throughout Ukraine, in January and February there were clashes between radicals and police. According to the latest data from the Ministry of Health of Ukraine, since November 30, the death toll in the riots has reached 99 people.

        Russian President Vladimir Putin described what happened in Ukraine as an armed coup, since the Verkhovna Rada deprived President Viktor Yanukovych of authority without observing the constitutional impeachment procedure. The Verkhovna Rada also changed the constitution, assigning presidential duties to speaker Alexander Turchinov, and scheduled the presidential election on May 25. Yanukovych said that he was forced to leave Ukraine under the threat of reprisal, and remains the legally elected head of state.


        http://www.zakon.kz/4608414-barak-obama-obsudil-s-prezidentom-rk.html
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        2. siberalt
          siberalt 11 March 2014 13: 56
          -6
          So it turns out that Nazarbayev confirmed in a conversation with Putin what his master told him. The same situation with the denial of recognition of South Ossetia. But in fact, Obama once again pressed Spain, Cyprus and Kazakhstan. An attempt to kill two birds with one stone. Drive wedges into relations between the EU and the EurAsEC.
  15. Soviet_Union
    Soviet_Union 11 March 2014 12: 24
    +4
    For official statements, standard terms exist. They were used. The most interesting thing is said for a glass of tea.
    On the other hand, Nazarbayev is a very experienced and authoritative politician, and will not say too much, only as much as necessary.
  16. Black
    Black 11 March 2014 12: 42
    +1
    Quote: Soviet_Union
    Nazarbayev is a very experienced and authoritative politician, and will not say too much, only as much as needed.


    There is no need to argue with the first.
    But how much - you need ??? In conscience ... I think it is necessary to declare the illegitimacy of the Ukrainian authorities !!! And dad would be the same ... But no ...
    So I think they are afraid of a precedent - the Russians are also a lot - suddenly Russia will like to "protect" the interests of the Russians ...
    1. Zymran
      Zymran 11 March 2014 12: 47
      +4
      Quote: Chen
      So I think they are afraid of a precedent - the Russians are also a lot - suddenly Russia will like to "protect" the interests of the Russians ...


      Yes, it is.
  17. Ivan.
    Ivan. 11 March 2014 12: 48
    +1
    Kazakhstan, as a strategic partner, is sympathetic to the position of Russia, which protects the rights of national minorities in Ukraine, as well as the interests of its security, "

    That's how the majority became a minority! request No matter how many "Ukrainians" there are, they say that they are not Russians, there is no escape from their roots. There are also minorities there, but they are not Russians. For a long time there has been formed a nationality anti-Russian or offended by God, favored by Satan sad
  18. Ermek
    Ermek 11 March 2014 13: 09
    +13
    hi brothers

    Russia will give Kazakhstan five S-300 divisions. Previously, these divisions were on alert in the Russian army, and "now the specialists of the two countries will need to look at how to bring them into combat readiness." ... by this measure "we are strengthening not only Kazakhstan, but also the CSTO air defense." This time.

    The total international reserves of Kazakhstan, including the gold and foreign exchange reserves of the National Bank and the assets of the National Fund, grew from $ 2014 billion to $ 95,222 billion in January-February 97,631, the National Bank said. Those. we can buy everything we need ourselves. These are two

    Also, for these machines "no better for a man" will need to buy "blades", so the defense industry of the Russian Federation will earn extra money. And the Russian Federation will also save on 5 divisions of personnel. These are three.

    And what - would it be better if you gave us Patriots? The answer, it seems, is understandable to the hedgehog, it is already inconvenient for me to speak, but, nevertheless, this is the fourth.

    And on the topic. What the National Academy of Sciences voiced, in my opinion, reflects the opinion of 90 percent of citizens of the Republic of Kazakhstan (almost like in the elections). Forgive me, brothers, Ukrainians and Tatars, but Crimea must go to the Russian Federation. Otherwise, we will definitely have to buy expensive Patriots and legalize gay marriage. Yes, there are some here who speak of the fraternal people, hell knows how, and I still strive to be "diplomatic", but even if NASA has broken through, then I join him.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 11 March 2014 13: 20
      0
      Quote: Ermek
      The fact that the NAS announced, in my opinion, reflects the opinion of percent of 90 citizens of the Republic of Kazakhstan

      By the way, a question for Cossack users. In your opinion, about the percentage of what mood?
      1. marshes
        marshes 11 March 2014 13: 26
        +4
        Quote: Yeraz
        By the way, a question for Cossack users. In your opinion, about the percentage of what mood?

        Judging by the Internet, nothing will work, not everyone has the Internet.
        Moreover, the pseudo Kazakhs became more active with approval ...
        You won’t appreciate it on the street. But basically they follow our flax.
        It is good that we are developing our digital television and the information field.
      2. T80UM1
        T80UM1 11 March 2014 13: 54
        +1
        Kazakhs mainly for Ukraine, Russians for Russia, Ukrainians mainly for Russia
        1. RusKaz
          RusKaz 11 March 2014 14: 39
          +1
          Quote: T80UM1
          Kazakhs mainly for Ukraine, Russians for Russia, Ukrainians mainly for Russia

          and Koreans?)
          1. T80UM1
            T80UM1 11 March 2014 15: 13
            +1
            I am for Russia, I can’t say anything about the rest, I communicate mainly with Russian Ukrainians (I would like to call it our way))) and Kazakhs
          2. alone
            alone 11 March 2014 20: 35
            +3
            Quote: RusKaz
            and Koreans?)

            )) For Kim Jong Un)) laughing
        2. malikszh
          malikszh 11 March 2014 17: 13
          +3
          I am Kazakh for Russia
          1. Semurg
            Semurg 11 March 2014 18: 44
            +5
            Quote: malikszh
            I am Kazakh for Russia

            And I am Kazakh, but I am for Kazakhstan.
            1. Clegg
              Clegg 11 March 2014 20: 13
              +4
              Quote: Semurg
              And I am Kazakh, but I am for Kazakhstan.

              I am Kazakh and I for Israel laughing
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 11 March 2014 21: 26
                +1
                Quote: Clegg
                I am Kazakh and I for Israel

                Bro you look far)))
            2. malikszh
              malikszh 12 March 2014 09: 47
              +1
              the question was two options for Russia or Ukraine
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      3. Zymran
        Zymran 11 March 2014 14: 10
        +6
        Firstly, a lot of Kremlin bots with Kazakh nicknames appeared on the news sites, but they scorch because of their lack of knowledge of the language and strange surnames.

        In general, Kazakhs, before 35 years, are for Ukraine, the older generation is mostly for Russia. Russians from Kazakhstan are all for Russia.
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 11 March 2014 15: 16
          0
          Quote: Zymran
          In general, Kazakhs, before 35 years, are for Ukraine, the older generation is mostly for Russia. Russians from Kazakhstan are all for Russia.

          In short, events in the Crimea can easily be repeated in Kazakhstan)))
          1. T80UM1
            T80UM1 11 March 2014 15: 35
            0
            Therefore, the attitude of the Kazakhs is negative to these events.
            1. Refugee from Kazakhstan
              Refugee from Kazakhstan 11 March 2014 16: 39
              +2
              If you do not suspect!
        2. Clegg
          Clegg 11 March 2014 20: 14
          +3
          Quote: Zymran
          Russians from Kazakhstan are all for Russia.

          With the exception of Duvanov
      4. Yeraz
        Yeraz 11 March 2014 15: 15
        +2
        Quote: Yeraz
        By the way, a question for Cossack users. In your opinion, about the percentage of what mood?

        and for what the minus ?? is usually violet, but here it became very interesting)
    2. Zymran
      Zymran 11 March 2014 13: 34
      +2
      Quote: Ermek

      And on the topic. The fact that the NAS announced, in my opinion, reflects the opinion of percent of 90 citizens of the Republic of Kazakhstan (almost like in elections). Forgive me, Ukrainians and Tatars, but Crimea must move to the Russian Federation.


      Where did Nazarbayev say that Crimea should move to Russia? In negotiations with Merkel he

      confirmed the importance of a diplomatic settlement of the Ukrainian crisis through dialogue between all interested parties, using possible mechanisms of international mediation to ensure the territorial integrity of this country, as well as refusing mutual threats of ultimatums.
  19. konvalval
    konvalval 11 March 2014 13: 29
    0
    All the time in connection with these events sounds NATO, NATO. Never heard of the CSTO or am I deaf?
    1. marshes
      marshes 11 March 2014 13: 39
      +6
      Quote: konvalval
      . Never heard of the CSTO or am I deaf?

      Ukraine is not a member of the CSTO. An attack on one of the CSTO countries did not occur.
  20. Marat
    Marat 11 March 2014 14: 17
    +1
    Girls are dancing interestingly. Today we showed that Nazarbayev and the President of Spain (to be honest I don’t remember how they call him) contacted Obama by telephone and condemned the invasion of Russian troops in Crimea. Who should I believe?
    1. marshes
      marshes 11 March 2014 14: 36
      +4
      Quote: Marat
      .Who to believe?

      The official authorities of Kazakhstan, other interested parties can interpret in different ways, with their own benefit.
    2. Zymran
      Zymran 11 March 2014 14: 36
      +1
      Here, from the president’s official website



      During the conversation, the state and prospects of Kazakh-American relations were discussed, as well as the preparations for the upcoming March 24-25 Global Nuclear Security Summit in The Hague.

      The leaders of the two states exchanged views on international and regional security. Much attention was paid to the development of the domestic political situation in Ukraine.

      The presidents of Kazakhstan and the USA have confirmed the need peaceful crisis management in Ukraine using diplomatic methodsproviding territorial integritythis country and contributing to the convergence of the positions of all interested parties.

      Nursultan Nazarbayev emphasized that this problem should be solved exclusively by negotiationall participants in the process.

      In turn, Barack Obama noted the need to create an effective mechanism under the auspices of international organizations such as the UN or the OSCE to resolve the situation in Ukraine.


      http://akorda.kz/ru/page/page_216119_telefonnyi-razgovor-s-prezidentom-ssha-bara
      kom-obamoi
    3. T80UM1
      T80UM1 11 March 2014 15: 17
      +2
      Do not believe the official power of Kazakhstan for Russia, all channels are only pro-Russian. Anti-American and anti-American
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    5. ultra
      ultra 11 March 2014 17: 15
      +2
      Quote: Marat
      President of Spain (

      There is no president in Spain! There is a constitutional monarchy! hi
    6. alone
      alone 11 March 2014 20: 38
      +1
      Quote: Marat
      that Nazarbayev and the president of Spain

      There is no such position as the president of Spain. There is the king of Spain and the prime minister. Spain is a constitutional monarchy.
  21. tokin1959
    tokin1959 11 March 2014 14: 33
    -15%
    Nazarbayev didn’t support anything, Nazarbayev wasn’t our friend, he senses whose meat was eaten, the redivision of the territories is not far off, Northern Kazakhstan is not his, it’s not for nothing that he transferred the capital to Aktyubinsk, and it was not for nothing that he repatriated 2 million Kazakhs from China. Old fox. They simply endure Russian, while there are quite a lot of them.
    1. Andrey KZ
      Andrey KZ 11 March 2014 14: 44
      +9
      Quote: tokin1959
      he moved the capital to Aktyubinsk

      Transferred to Tselinograd, expert pancake.
      he smells whose meat is eaten
      Your?
      1. tokin1959
        tokin1959 11 March 2014 14: 49
        -14%
        I am not an expert.
        what about the capital - was it wrong, are you never wrong? is it itself impeccable?

        he feels whose meat is eaten ----- and then what he screeched about strengthening the defense of Kazakhstan and increasing the output of military products?
      2. T80UM1
        T80UM1 11 March 2014 15: 25
        -4
        What is minus the Ukrainian ??? Quite right, he writes everything, and the first comment is inadequate
        1. Refugee from Kazakhstan
          Refugee from Kazakhstan 11 March 2014 16: 18
          +2
          If the GDP in advisers is so inadequate, then the Russian Federation has no one to fear - it will fall apart on autonomy itself! Toch such as tokin1959 are now sitting as advisers about Obama, that’s what the poor fellow is up to the whole world! So right minus!
    2. marshes
      marshes 11 March 2014 14: 45
      +5
      Quote: tokin1959
      it’s not without reason that he transferred the capital to Aktyubinsk,

      Residents of Aktyubinsk, congratulations now metropolitan residents. laughing
      Quote: tokin1959
      , and it was not in vain that 2 million Kazakhs from China repatriated.

      From China, Mongolia, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Afghanistan, Iran and other places, all return to their historical homeland, still give citizenship within 3 months.
    3. Refugee from Kazakhstan
      Refugee from Kazakhstan 11 March 2014 15: 09
      +4
      Quote: tokin1959
      Nazarbayev didn’t support anything, Nazarbayev wasn’t our friend, he senses whose meat was eaten, the redivision of the territories is not far off, Northern Kazakhstan is not his, it’s not for nothing that he transferred the capital to Aktyubinsk, and it was not for nothing that he repatriated 2 million Kazakhs from China. Old fox. They simply endure Russian, while there are quite a lot of them.

      What kind of patient showed up on a branch? Fucking against the wall will become easier!
      1. alone
        alone 11 March 2014 20: 40
        +3
        Quote: RK refugee
        What kind of patient showed up on a branch? Fucking against the wall will become easier!

        Why is the wall to blame? wassat
    4. Shpagolom
      Shpagolom 11 March 2014 15: 52
      +2
      .... NAS is not a friend, then who is he ... enemy ... fellow traveler .... ??
      1. tokin1959
        tokin1959 11 March 2014 18: 20
        -5
        Who is Nazarbayev?
        I will say softly - the same as Yeltsin, Kravchuk, Shushkevich and Gorbaty.
        he is also involved in the collapse of the USSR
  22. Refugee from Kazakhstan
    Refugee from Kazakhstan 11 March 2014 14: 54
    +4
    I am reading and I think Kazakhs will never be good for you! For anyone, you pick something, Vasilenko has not yet performed (probably at work), he is already a master. Although the overwhelming majority of Kazakhstanis support the GDP with the Crimea, all the same, we supposedly hangers-on are fed from the Russian Federation and do not kiss her hands. What the National Academy of Sciences said most optimal is that it could express the language of diplomacy. Probably everyone wanted to hear from NAS like "Come on, Vova burn"? Another question is ripe: Crimea is gone, everything is clear, now 9 regions are planning a similar referendum, let's say they will hold it with the majority, for example, for joining the Russian Federation. Then what? Okay, Crimea was and will be Russian, but what about those?
    1. RusKaz
      RusKaz 11 March 2014 15: 06
      +3
      Quote: RK refugee
      Another question has ripened: Crimea has left everything clearly, now 9 regions are planning a similar referendum, let’s say they will hold a majority, for example, for joining the Russian Federation. Then what? Okay, Crimea was and will be Russian, but with those of what?

      Yes, Putin himself is probably sitting on a turnip scratching how to deal with them))
      1. Refugee from Kazakhstan
        Refugee from Kazakhstan 11 March 2014 15: 23
        +4
        NAS offered GDP mediation in the settlement! Although those who know about this, including avt, declare that he will "sit in his Astana and will not climb between the big players" (he probably saw himself among them too)!
        1. T80UM1
          T80UM1 11 March 2014 15: 27
          0
          What is required of him, as well as of the Old Man, is support within the CSTO - specifically, a couple of peacekeeping brigades to resolve the situation
          1. Refugee from Kazakhstan
            Refugee from Kazakhstan 11 March 2014 16: 05
            +3
            A couple is not a problem if it is limited to Crimea. And if the remaining 9 regions declare, then this is a precedent and here it is dangerous to wave a saber both to the Russian Federation and to the entire CSTO!
    2. tokin1959
      tokin1959 11 March 2014 18: 14
      -6
      It’s not about the Kazakhs at all. I have a father-in-law, note, Kazakh.
      and about Nazism and nationalism against Russians in the former republics of the USSR, after the collapse of the Soviet Union.
      the best self-affirmation in these republics is to spit in the direction of the Russians, sorry comrades, but I do not like it.
      I, and Russian nationalists, who call others - chocks, Benders likewise do not like.
      and in no republic is the question of Nazism raised at the state level.
      tacit consent, so to speak.
      1. Refugee from Kazakhstan
        Refugee from Kazakhstan 11 March 2014 18: 47
        +5
        Then nobody believes in your bullshit
        1. tokin1959
          tokin1959 11 March 2014 18: 55
          -2
          You see, you have your own point of view, I have my own. if you want polemics - say your own, I will answer you and justify.
          but to people like you, the polemic is uninteresting; there are not enough brains to talk.
          therefore, out of anger, only on the names and advice on the wall and enough intelligence to answer.
    3. Fagotter
      Fagotter 11 March 2014 18: 51
      0
      Russia does not have money for them in the budget, what a pack, but if it goes, they will find it. There is already a thought in the portfolio of a package of laws on new lands and an accelerated procedure for obtaining citizenship.
  23. Lindon
    Lindon 11 March 2014 16: 06
    +6
    Russia itself must resolve the issue with Ukraine.
    You have to bargain with the United States.
    Kazakhstan is simply pulled up as with Iran for mediation - all the more so KZ always creeps into such negotiations and it turns out to be a good mediator. The West and Russia often need an additional translation - and then the mentality of Russians - Americans can not understand in any way due to their limitations.
    In general, Kazakhstan is taken by a translator for such negotiations when they really want to agree on something.
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 11 March 2014 16: 36
      +5
      Thank you for Kazakhstan, specifically the NAS? What does he say to the two neighbors, stop throwing some poop, and put aside the dubbing that you hold in your hands at the ready? And since he doesn’t seem to have a neutral position, give ukr GDP, and Ukrainians don’t tell you guys do it, you are right (especially since you are like one, or very close peoples) And we don’t like the violent change in Kazakhstan authorities in Kiev, neither the annexation of Crimea, and both are gut. True, everyone has their own truth, but they just want to personally suffer for their truth or hope to sit out at the computer?
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  24. Snoop
    Snoop 11 March 2014 16: 08
    -4
    The statement is about nothing))) It seems that there is a lot of bukaf, but one water))) The East is a delicate matter)))
  25. nnnnnn
    nnnnnn 11 March 2014 16: 17
    +5
    Quote: RK refugee
    Vasilenko has not yet spoken (probably at work),

    He is on the Maidan laughing
  26. Refugee from Kazakhstan
    Refugee from Kazakhstan 11 March 2014 16: 34
    +3
    Quote: nnnnnn
    Quote: RK refugee
    Vasilenko has not yet spoken (probably at work),

    He is on the Maidan laughing

    Looking for Kazakhs!)))
  27. bnk204
    bnk204 11 March 2014 17: 03
    0
    Ukraine- BROTHER Country

    Well, how fraternal is she? Western Ukraine hates Russians as well as Americans, even worse
  28. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 11 March 2014 18: 08
    0
    Nazarbaich is also not eternal, it is not known yet who will come for him and what he will stew. So let it be better than nothing at all.
    1. Sickle
      Sickle 11 March 2014 20: 52
      +1
      Do not be afraid everything will be fine, Nazarbayev also thinks about it and not only him.
  29. faser
    faser 11 March 2014 18: 31
    +6
    Russian brothers! We are with you. (Kazakhs)
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 11 March 2014 18: 50
      +10
      Quote: faser
      Russian brothers! We are with you. (Kazakhs)

      Not certainly in that way . Russians and Ukrainians, why are you fucking or something, that you are ready to clutch each other’s throats (rulers come and go and the peoples will stay close by). According to this, the brothers Slavs cool the ardor that Kazakhs advise you.
      1. Andrey KZ
        Andrey KZ 11 March 2014 19: 31
        0
        Quote: Semurg
        Not certainly in that way . Russians and Ukrainians, why are you fucking or something, that you are ready to clutch each other’s throats (rulers come and go and the peoples will stay close by). According to this, the brothers Slavs cool the ardor that Kazakhs advise you.

        good Eric too +
      2. Zymran
        Zymran 11 March 2014 19: 32
        +3
        Quote: Semurg
        Not certainly in that way . Russians and Ukrainians, why are you fucking or something, that you are ready to clutch each other’s throats (rulers come and go and the peoples will stay close by). According to this, the brothers Slavs cool the ardor that Kazakhs advise you.


        + 500 You can’t say better!
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 11 March 2014 19: 40
          +5
          You know Zymran, but it’s sad for me somewhere to watch how the Ukrainians left the site (not those who are under the flag of the USSR, but those who were under the yellow-black flag). Maybe the hysteria will pass and they will return, otherwise the site becomes one-sided.
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  30. Leshka
    Leshka 11 March 2014 18: 54
    +1
    any support is good in this matter
  31. Crook
    Crook 11 March 2014 18: 57
    +2
    I will not speak for all the citizens of the Republic of Kazakhstan, I will say for myself.
    Ukraine, the land of my great-grandfather, and my grandfather drove the Nazi occupants all the way to Berlin, it will not be good if this infection rises to its feet again, so to speak "uproot and burn."
    And the reaction of our Bastik is not surprising, restrained and pragmatic. Kazakhs are generally cunning people.
    And do not forget that we also have a "fifth column" heated from overseas ...
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 11 March 2014 19: 06
      +8
      Quote: Crook
      .
      And do not forget that we also have a "fifth column" heated from overseas ...

      I’ll tell you more of these fifth columns, not one or two, but more who would like to catch a fish in troubled waters. And not only across the ocean, but also closer.
      1. Sickle
        Sickle 11 March 2014 20: 58
        0
        Therefore, democracy is needed in the United States, jerked toward the policeman and you can grab a bullet.
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  32. Octavian avgust
    Octavian avgust 11 March 2014 21: 28
    +3
    Right Nureke! I fully support you! And Putin !!! good
  33. Vita_vko
    Vita_vko 11 March 2014 21: 35
    +3
    As an experienced analyst, he did not expect such a wording from our President.
    strategic partner, with understanding refers to the position of Russia, protecting the rights of national minorities in Ukraine, as well as the interests of its security
    .
    I thought there would be a slippery Chinese version of a peaceful settlement and integrity, especially after telephone conversations with Obama and Merkel.
    But after such a statement, the rating and respect of Nazarbayev in Kazakhstan has certainly risen significantly. And this is despite all the speculations on this topic in the Kazakh media. I hope that soon and most of the Ukrainian people will understand that friends are in trouble. And in trouble, neither the Russians nor the Kazakhstanis abandon their own.
  34. project sity
    project sity 12 March 2014 01: 46
    0
    Quote: rasputin17
    . Neither Kazakhstan nor Belarus stuttered about Russia's support.


    And this is not necessary! They will come with help as soon as Russia calls for it, or such a situation will develop! For these countries, by and large, there is no future without Russia!

    For sure, the future cannot do without Russia, Russia supports many, etc. )
  35. xackera
    xackera 12 March 2014 04: 53
    -5
    Russia has forgotten one wisdom that has come for a long time:
    Russia has two allies: ARMY and Navy!
  36. Nomad
    Nomad 12 March 2014 06: 14
    +9
    Quote: siberalt
    And what could Nazarbayev say? Two thirds of Kazakhstan donated by Russia

    Whoa! Already two thirds! More specifically, what territories, when, according to what documents? And then you can blurt out anything, only smart people think before they speak, so as not to look fools. For your information, when Russia had just "climbed" over the Ural ridge, the Kazakh Khanate already existed on approximately the same territory (if not more) as now Kazakhstan. And the direct ancestors of the Kazakhs generally roamed all over the steppe from the Black Sea to the Pacific Ocean when the Slavs still lived in the forests of Central Europe, from where they were squeezed out to the east by the Germans.
    1. tokin1959
      tokin1959 12 March 2014 11: 25
      -3
      ndya already))))))
      just like protoUkra, who lived 140000 years ago))))
      in the next textbook on the history of Ukraine, protoUkram will draw 1400000 years))))
  37. Refugee from Kazakhstan
    Refugee from Kazakhstan 12 March 2014 11: 56
    +4
    Quote: tokin1959
    You see, you have your own point of view, I have my own. if you want polemics - say your own, I will answer you and justify.
    but to people like you, the polemic is uninteresting; there are not enough brains to talk.
    therefore, out of anger, only on the names and advice on the wall and enough intelligence to answer.

    Yes, what can be a polemic with a provocateur? You don’t even know the name of the capital of the country you are writing about
    1. tokin1959
      tokin1959 12 March 2014 17: 44
      -6
      you provocateur yourself
      I’m not interested in the names of auls.
      1. Netrocker
        Netrocker 15 March 2015 15: 01
        0
        Yes, you are not interested in anything flawed, except for Levashov’s commercials! wink
  38. Refugee from Kazakhstan
    Refugee from Kazakhstan 13 March 2014 19: 06
    +2
    Quote: tokin1959
    you provocateur yourself
    I’m not interested in the names of auls.

    If Putin closes his mouth to such provocateurs like you, our peoples will live in peace and harmony for a long time so shut your mouth with sperm stinks
  39. Kustanayets
    Kustanayets April 7 2014 23: 06
    +4
    Recently I thought, the Kazakhs are the PEOPLE, which during the years of collectivization lost half their numbers. BUT NOT AT MY PARENTS, NOT AT MY GRANCHES AND GRANDFATES, NOT ONE ELDERLY KAZAKH I have never seen hatred of Russians and the USSR. In 31 in the steppes, the Kazakhs were dying of hunger, and in 41 in the ranks of the spacecraft near Moscow. Paradox...

    BUT rummaged and discovered an amazing THING!

    One and a half million Kazakhs in 29-32 and the RUSSIAN TSAR FAMILY in the 18th were killed by the same person.

    Philip Goloshchekin.

    И по информации отсюда http://traditio-ru.org/wiki/%D0%A4%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%BF_%D0%98%D1%81%D0
    %B0%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B8%D1%87_%D0%93%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%89%D1%91%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%
    BD

    Shaya Itsovich-Isakovich

    NOT RUSSIAN. Jew. Shot as a Trotskyist. Rehabilitated by Khrushchev.
    Which by the way continued the work of Goloshchekin - collectivization destroyed the nomadic way of life in the steppe, and then there was virgin land, which almost destroyed black soil. And who transferred the Crimea to Ukraine.

    And the feeling that these MINES in the relations of the peoples of Eurasia laid ONE AND THE SAME PEOPLE !!! NOT BY CHANCE!!!

    Mina in Ukraine pulled.

    An interesting thing is the story. Gives answers to many questions.