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V.Katasonov: “Intervention, occupation, war ... but only against Russia”

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V.Katasonov: “Intervention, occupation, war ... but only against Russia”"Power" in the face of Turchinov and Yatsenyuk without looking will sign an agreement on Ukraine’s entry into NATO, the professor is sure


For many years, the West has been waging an information war against Russia. One of the important methods of this war is the substitution of certain words and meanings with other words and meanings. On the example of informational coverage of events in Ukraine, this is clearly seen.

What happened in Ukraine at the end of February 2014, journalists, politicians, representatives of the expert community are called differently. The most frequently used terms are “coup”, “revolution”, “seizure of power”. Moreover, some of these events can evaluate positively, others - negatively, but the words use the same. No one argues that in Ukraine there really was a coup and the seizure of power by right-wing forces, but one must understand what lies behind this “revolution.” Domestic and world media describe “trees” in great detail (by which I mean the events on the Maidan, in certain regions and cities of Ukraine), but rarely show the “forest” (that is, they shy away from evaluating events in the geopolitical context).

So, to describe the "forest" key are the following words.

Intervention, that is, the invasion of the enemy on the territory of Ukraine. The enemy is the West, or rather, the ruling circles of the United States and the leading capitalist countries of Europe that are members of NATO’s military-political bloc. We are accustomed to the fact that intervention is an invasion of troops on foreign territory. Today, interventions often have a different form: first of all, the penetration of intelligence services into a foreign territory, creating their residency and other “reference points”, recruiting and creating extensive agent networks, recruiting military training, creating a fifth column in the state apparatus of a foreign country. State Department employee Victoria Nuland said without hesitation that the US spent 5 billions of dollars on such a “quiet” intervention of Ukraine. And this is not counting the tremendous money that the West has been forcing and forcing to spend on the occupation of the Ukrainian oligarchs, which are very effective puppets and convenient "wallets" of the West.

An occupation. This is the result of intervention - the establishment of effective control over the territory, economy, media, population of the country. After the February Maidan, the final phase of the occupation began. For this purpose, the “offshore aristocracy” of Ukraine in the person of the newly minted oligarchs - R. Akhmetov, Kolomoisky and others is used.

War. War against whom? Against Ukraine? But it already ends there. Ukraine is already occupied. Unless operations against particular groups, which are called "partisans". But this is not even war, but something like “anti-terrorist operations”. This is actually a war against Russia. To a large extent, this was the purpose of the play entitled “Change of Power”. Viktor Yanukovych turned out to be not a very “effective” agent of the West and failed to fulfill quickly the mission entrusted to him of signing the treaty on Ukraine’s accession to NATO. The new government in the face of such trained hamsters like Turchinov and Yatsenyuk, will not sign the signatures under the documents, and Russia will find itself in the arms of NATO. Both parties will spit on the fact that this kind of decisions are prepared for a long time, they have their own procedures. The ball is ruled by “geopolitical expediency”, for the sake of which one can forget about constitutions and international law. Forecasts-fears of sober Russian experts are starting to come true before our eyes. In the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, a draft law “On Amendments to Certain Laws of Ukraine (Regarding the Ensuring and Guaranteeing Ukraine’s National Security)” is being prepared as a matter of urgency. With the current layout of forces in the Parliament, this project can very quickly become law.

As a result, even before the beginning of the summer, NATO divisions may be under the borders of the Russian Federation, which will be reinforced by the formation of local Bandera troops. However, why "under the borders"? Already, across the Russian-Ukrainian border, individuals who perform special tasks of NATO are entering our territory. As they say, intelligence comes first ... And in the far-reaching plans of NATO, both intervention and occupation of the territory of Russia. So the key word for us should be “war”. We are used to declaring war. This old-fashioned Hitler loudly declared war on us on 22 on June 1941 (read this ad on Goebbels radio). Now - other times. No one is going to declare war on you. You yourself must feel the threat of war and, moreover, the war itself. Unfortunately, during the long years of our society’s presence in the atmosphere of “liberalism” and “democracy”, natural receptors for the perception of the military threat stopped working - both for the average person and especially for those at the helm of our state.

There is an expression: "In war as in war." An undeclared, but obvious and very dangerous war is being waged against Russia, threatening the lives of millions of people (not only citizens of Ukraine, but also citizens of the Russian Federation). In the conditions of war, in any country, certain principles of organization and behavior developed by the centuries-old experience of mankind begin to operate.

For example, the principle of mobilization. Economic, military, informational. Our society continues to be in a state of liberal relaxation. There are no signs of mobilization in Russia. Everything is sinking in the endless talk of our politicians and talk shows with the participation of deputies. An important act of war against Russia begins on Independence Square, and our Russian media at this time are trying to immerse all of Russia's citizens in the “atmosphere of the Olympic holiday” in Sochi. Here Stalin before the war had no time to participate in talk shows and competitions. From morning to night, he spent very intense working meetings at which issues of military production, transport, the transfer of armies, armaments and the transfer of enterprises to the east of the country, the creation of strategic reserves, etc., etc., were resolved.

The principle of secrecy becomes important. Only in a nightmare can Stalin dream that Stalin and his ministers, generals and designers discuss the country's defenses and the preparation of military operations in front of cameras and microphones of journalists. The Supreme Soviet of the USSR made many of its decisions in complete secrecy. We learn about some of its decrees and laws only today, when archives are opened. Why, for example, our senators are starting to discuss the issue of empowering the president to confiscate property, accounts, other assets of foreign banks and companies in the territory of the Russian Federation? You just have to endow, without any hype. However, the earlier decision of the Federation Council on granting the president the right to use the armed forces to protect our citizens and our interests in Ukraine could be made without any noise by stamping “Secret” on it. It seems that the “people's elected representatives” do not solve serious military and political issues, but are engaged in PR.

The principle of surprise. Take the same decisions about the possibility of using the Russian armed forces in Ukraine. Such use becomes effective when it is suddenly. We have lost such an opportunity, trumping on the decision of the Federation Council. My personal opinion is that 1 March simply had to transfer our armed forces to the Crimea (and maybe to the eastern regions of Ukraine), and only then talk about the decision of the Federation Council. The cart was in front of the horse.

Another example is the question of the possible confiscation of foreign assets in Russia. You first “prepare a question”, make a decision on confidentiality on granting the president authority, and then let the president announce such confiscation. And what happened? Foreign investor warned. It is not even an investor, but a speculator who sits on suitcases (with currency). And with such statements, he simply disappears under the cover of night from the country, while having derailed our ruble.

The events in Ukraine have revealed a lot of things that you will not see in normal times. In particular, they highlighted the unpreparedness of our leaders for the war, which will soon knock on our doors. In part, this can be explained by the loss of professional skills, and partly by disregard for the country and its duties, and in part by direct and deliberate sabotage.

If we continue to be in the same mental and physical relaxation, we may be in the position of a “democratic” France of the 1940 model of the year. Then, with a little over a month, the troops of Nazi Germany managed to occupy most of the "relaxed" France.

I think that increasing the country's readiness for war can be achieved partly even if we start using the right words to describe the current events in Ukraine.
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  1. Sma11
    Sma11 11 March 2014 16: 10
    +19
    The article is very ambiguous. On the one hand, you understand that you have to communicate with scoundrels using "double standards" (a buzzword of recent days), just as meanly and cunningly. Like "not caught - not a thief", but caught "and you prove it," or even a knife in the back. On the other hand, our government is playing a game according to "knightly" laws, with the throwing of gloves. And this can only be done by a person (meaning the government, the state) who is completely confident in his righteousness and strength and that no one from the environment will put a knife under the shoulder blade. Which has a very solid rear. Without it, it looks like a bluff in poker. Time will tell. But if anything, then the consequences can be lousy.
    1. schizophrenic
      schizophrenic 11 March 2014 16: 34
      +6
      Quote: Sma11
      The article is very ambiguous

      The principle of secrecy becomes important. Only in a terrible dream can it be dreamed that Stalin with his ministers, generals and designers discuss issues of the country's defense and preparation of military operations in front of the cameras and microphones of journalists. The Supreme Soviet of the USSR made many of its decisions in complete secrecy.
      Now is not the time and the wrong policies, many decisions are not immediately visible, even in Ukraine they become later and sometimes need to be on camera.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 11 March 2014 21: 49
        +10
        Well, the author said that NATO is our enemy, why didn’t we know this?
        The author noted that you always need to act invisibly and suddenly, since what age in the yard you can see almost online without leaving your home, I'm not talking about military satellites, UAVs, reconnaissance! That is, it is extremely difficult to transfer a large number of weapons and people unnoticed !
        That armed Benderyans will appear in Ukraine, well, in general, that was what was going on, and for the last five years they have been talking about it almost every week!
        I don’t know how it relates to this article, because everything is quite obvious!
        1. matross
          matross 11 March 2014 22: 13
          0
          Quote: Sid.74
          I do not know how this article relates

          How to yellow. For some reason, the author is trying to compare the incomparable. And the 1941 year, the year of the most serious defeats, cites as an example - that’s how it is! In general, there is some kind of confusion ...
          1. smith7
            smith7 11 March 2014 22: 47
            +1
            If you relax further on June 22 of this year, it can be essentially similar to the beginning of WWII. That's what the article is about, IMHO.
            1. matross
              matross 11 March 2014 22: 58
              +3
              Quote: smith7
              22 of June of this year may be essentially similar to the beginning of WWII.

              Comrade Smith! On June 22, the Great Patriotic War began. Not "WWII" at all. Without any imkhov, definitely!
            2. AVIATOR36662
              AVIATOR36662 11 March 2014 23: 03
              +3
              I absolutely agree with the comrade. It shouldn't be "relaxation" like in 1940 in France. Anyone who is well aware of the situation knows that France had more than average military potential, and with the right command, the French army could inflict such a crushing blow on Germany that there could be no question of any further German offensive on such a scale. not so "fair" and the world was covered with blood. The parallels to the current situation with Ukraine are fair.
    2. jjj
      jjj 11 March 2014 21: 46
      +6
      Quote: Sma11
      Like "not caught - not a thief", but caught "and you prove it"

      And remember the joke about card players:
      - Gentlemen believe the word
      - And then I started to lead
      1. Sergh
        Sergh 11 March 2014 21: 59
        +5
        Quote: jjj
        - Gentlemen believe the word
        - And then I started to lead

        - !!! And then the card tumbled down to me and everything in the suit, in the suit.
        I do remember.
    3. vezunchik
      vezunchik 11 March 2014 22: 31
      -1
      DO NOT THROW OWN!
    4. vezunchik
      vezunchik 11 March 2014 22: 31
      0
      DO NOT THROW OWN!
    5. ren1999
      ren1999 11 March 2014 23: 37
      +2
      Russia, as always, does not have enough time. Here the author writes about the mobilization of the people. What mobilization without ideology ?! What is the mobilization in the Russian outback?
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 12 March 2014 05: 08
        0
        mobilization is not always a gathering near the military registration and enlistment office, rallies in support of the Crimea are also one of the elements
    6. dmitrich
      dmitrich 12 March 2014 05: 26
      0
      and who will occupy us?
      1. Turkir
        Turkir 12 March 2014 15: 53
        0
        Sorry, but if you watch TV .. then the occupation is already there.
        Gillette ... - finish for me. Watch and listen to the hosts. Instead of a message - "message", instead of a manager - "manager", etc.
        Well, and who is brainwashing us with films in which all the bandits are named after Yuri, Boris, Vladimir and Mikhail?
        Today, in the news: "The head of the Eksmo publishing house has sold his publishing house and is leaving for the United States for permanent residence." He made money from books sold to us at inflated prices and takes the money he earned back to the USA. To make them, his money work against us. And they are innumerable ..
        Treasure Island R. Stevenson: Captain Smollett: Too Much Talk.
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  2. Ross
    Ross 11 March 2014 18: 46
    +11
    Katasonov is right. He is special not only in global finance and economics, but also in geopolitics. And about privacy. Are the journalists too annoying today?
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 11 March 2014 22: 15
      +10
      Quote: Ross
      Are the journalists too annoying today?

      ...
      good example

      A militia fellow, savvy. I would not have survived such mockery of the arrogant zhurnalyug for a long time - I would have put it in the mud for a couple of hours in the ground ... until clarification ...
      1. ren1999
        ren1999 11 March 2014 23: 30
        +4
        This group, which consists of the Crimean Tatars, it is clear from the questions, appears where "polite people with machine guns" find themselves. They shattered the Russian fighters, and this guy is great, he takes a hit.
  3. felix34
    felix34 11 March 2014 21: 03
    +10
    Grandfather.
    Katasonov always THINKED. I sympathize with those who sometimes do not understand him. So, not yet matured.
  4. Turkir
    Turkir 11 March 2014 21: 30
    +6
    Katasonov well done. The logic is steel.
  5. Sevastopol
    Sevastopol 11 March 2014 21: 34
    +23
    Well done Crimeans!
    Only in the Verkhovna Rada they hinted that the referendum on March 16 was illegal under the Crimean constitution of 1998. so get in response:

    1) In the prescribed manner, put on the agenda and consider at a session of the Armed Forces of Crimea
    the question of canceling the normative legal act of the Armed Forces of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea in the form of the Constitution of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea adopted at the second session of the Verkhovna Rada of the Crimea on October 21, 1998, and resolution No. 239K-2/98 on its adoption.

    2) Also consider removing the occupation Bandera symbols - the so-called the national emblem of Ukraine in the form of a trident - from the facade of the building of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Kazakhstan.

    3) To consider the question of depriving the ex-president of Ukraine Leonid Kuchma of the title “Honorary Crimean”. The actions of the Kuchma regime, March 17, 1995 unilaterally forcibly eliminating the Constitution of the Republic of Kazakhstan on May 6, 1992 and removing the popularly elected President Yuri Meshkov from power, should be qualified as a coup d'etat, which resulted in the long-term Ukrainian occupation of the peninsula ”

    that's it - we were occupied for 8 years
    1. pilot_66
      pilot_66 11 March 2014 22: 17
      +8
      Everything will expand well and multiply
  6. AlexA
    AlexA 11 March 2014 21: 42
    +4
    In contrast to the text of Alexander Samsonov, which is now very intensively discussed in the VO, and which is just a collection of gritty and emotional slogans, the text is by Valentin Katasonov of a purely practical orientation. He makes you think.
    It is advisable that this text be made public by the manual. But this is unlikely ...
  7. kocclissi
    kocclissi 11 March 2014 21: 42
    +1
    Not so simple! Although also not cloudless in this picture ... each player sees his own strategy!
  8. sledge 82
    sledge 82 11 March 2014 21: 42
    +5
    The author is right to everything 100. That's just the Russian "bear" wakes up when he is already poked with a carbine.
    1. Consul-t
      Consul-t 11 March 2014 22: 09
      +3
      no matter how it happens that the bear will be shot in the ear, and he won’t even have time to wake up ...
      Over in Kiev what was happening on the Maidan? and where at that time were the people from the east? several thousand militants easily took power in such a country. What about the people?
      Woke up when it was too late.
      If Bandera had not immediately hit the Russian language, do you think the Crimea and the eastern part of Ukraine would rise? Hardly...
  9. skyil
    skyil 11 March 2014 21: 42
    +7
    Yes, it’s all right, the author is right, but this time too much is at stake to cut off his shoulder. Now there is a unique chance to win a political and diplomatic war, since the helm is not drunk and not hunchbacked, but there you can tackle the Schmeizer.
  10. snifer
    snifer 11 March 2014 21: 43
    +10
    Now there are other warriors, and first of all there is an information war, from here and all the decisions to the camera.
  11. Palych9999
    Palych9999 11 March 2014 21: 44
    +1
    Surname - famous ...
    But what a fuss, eyes go cold read such ...
  12. TS3sta3
    TS3sta3 11 March 2014 21: 51
    +5
    the author proposes to cut from the shoulder - in Stalin's way. this is also a method. BUT. looking at the politics (rat or cautious, whoever likes it) of England and the United States, you can see that it also gives good results. therefore, a combination is better than solving problems exclusively by forceful methods. for example, the publication of the "permission to send Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine" was provocative for the fascist junta in Kiev, therefore it was published in the media. the junta did not give in. perhaps because of their own cowardice or narrow-mindedness, but most likely on the advice of the curators of the Maidan, who ate the dog during such provocations. now there is a game of nerves. therefore, forceful methods will do more harm than help here.
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 11 March 2014 23: 14
      +1
      Forceful methods will only save many lives and the remnants of statehood. Let the people of Ukraine remaining under the rule of Bandera kiss their boxing rabbits on the Maidan. What they have prepared for the people is already voiced. The seams and not the future. But the oligarchs will be at the helm with the Nazis. This is in the plan. Let's see, it seems that many people disagree with this and Russia began to help many of them.
  13. Sergg
    Sergg 11 March 2014 21: 52
    +7
    So the key word for us should be the word "war."


    I talk about this at first the victory of fascism in Ukraine, but for some reason people frown. It’s strange.
    Is Russia not standing on the bones of our soldiers. Either we are any special ones - they will not touch us, or we will quickly turn our faces away, saying that we don’t know what our hut is from the edge.

    We either accept the battle, realizing that we can die, but thereby give the opportunity to live for other generations in Russia. Or we will continue to live with a broken conscience, unless of course we are tired of living like this from the beginning of the 90s. Well, you won’t be able to sit out in the capter, the war is knocking on our houses ...

    So the key word for us should be the word "war."

    This does not mean that we should grab guns and go to Ukraine to beat the fascists. But an understanding of what is happening should be, and there must be a willingness to fulfill one’s duty to the motherland.
  14. W1950
    W1950 11 March 2014 21: 56
    +9
    It’s interesting, but the Americans and Western Europe think that impudent collision with Russia can end with general bliss on the clouds, or are they like horses that carried them?
    1. grantaleks
      grantaleks 11 March 2014 22: 27
      +2
      Quote: W1950
      It’s interesting, but the Americans and Western Europe think that impudent collision with Russia can end with general bliss on the clouds, or are they like horses that carried them?

      I hope that the surviving microorganisms will create another humanity in a couple of million years, preferably without brains, so that there is no place for cynicism, lies, debauchery and aggression
    2. typhoon7
      typhoon7 11 March 2014 23: 15
      +2
      It feels like the Americans are going to the bank. To retreat for them now is political death and the loss of global influence. We generally have no choice, they are coming at us with an ax. Our army has just begun to rearm and rebuild, they certainly will not wait for 2020, when we are mainly rearming, and this is why events are developing so fast. Industry must plow the defense industry, but it is all privatized and we are left with crumbs. The author is right, in Russia liberalism never took root and did not lead to anything good, and now the model of the political system and economy is much more liberal than in the West, plus terrible corruption. These problems need to be addressed promptly. The fight is not brewing frail, but a lot depends on the Ukrainian army, how it will behave, if it turns to Kiev, then the Americans will generally leave with a beard.
  15. Vadim12
    Vadim12 11 March 2014 21: 56
    +6
    The West has already begun to lose and understands this. After all, when they calculated everything accurately, they did not think about the desire of the Crimeans to become part of the Russian Federation so quickly. Now, as usual - screeching to the ceiling. Their usual reaction and cries about the "indivisibility" of Ukraine. It would be better if they closed the mitten, did not waste heat.
  16. calocha
    calocha 11 March 2014 22: 01
    -1
    GOLD WORDS !!!! KATASONS OF THE LIGHT SOUL AND HUMAN MIND !!!!
  17. Pokerof13
    Pokerof13 11 March 2014 22: 02
    +9
    But just recently, some in Russia did not believe that there were threats. Someone even tried to support the bastards with white ribbons, which were sold to those who staged a coup in Ukraine. But Russia is destined to crush Western ghouls and be a bastion of justice in the world.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 12 March 2014 00: 02
      +1
      Quote: Pokerof13
      But just recently, some in Russia did not believe that there were threats. Someone even tried to support the bastards with white ribbons, which were sold to those who staged a coup in Ukraine.

      Yes, I was slightly shocked that I read such a comment on the topic about vysyor khodor on the Maidan, not literally just the meaning: - "After this, I also think that he was released early, and before that, I'm guilty, I thought that the authorities slandered him and he is not deserved. and even supported this prisoner of conscience. "
  18. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 11 March 2014 22: 03
    +15
    I believe Putin and I think everything possible is being done.
  19. internatio
    internatio 11 March 2014 22: 05
    +9
    The situation in Ukraine and Crimea has clearly divided the community into "friends" and "aliens". On December 1, 2013 in Kiev there were patrols at intersections with haircuts on their clothes. Then the wave passed throughout Ukraine and only in February reached the Crimea. In the Russian Federation, many liberals and others wear ribbons "zhovtoblakytni" ... On the Internet, the war is full. And, unfortunately, many "environmentalists", having lost their sense of time, having lost their love for Russia, blather for "Crimea as part of Ukraine", hissing something about Putin's policy as a mistake. It is extremely unfortunate for such a polarization in the Ukraine-Russia community. But it heals and sober up. And, as practice in Crimea has shown, he very diplomatically and tactfully and politely explains the essence of what is happening. Even the snickering bureaucracy stirred. Not to mention the "chosen ones". "Who are the temporary ones ?! - Get down! - Your power is over!"
    1. polly
      polly 11 March 2014 22: 27
      +1
      "Even the snickering bureaucracy began to stir."It's right. Even Dvorkovich strongly said that we will turn our nose east, do not scare. “I think that the policy of recent years allows us to count on good results, we work with all partners: with Europe, and with the American continent, and to an increasing extent with the asia-pacific region. Such diversification of our cooperation allows us to count on the stable operation of our economy ”
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 11 March 2014 22: 37
        +1
        Wonderful reasonings dear! hi We are waiting for the end of the referendum, and there we are already watching, the next part of the Marleson ballet! I hope the Southeast will not be broken, nor will normal people in the center of Ukraine be broken! hi
    2. Ivan.
      Ivan. 12 March 2014 00: 16
      +2
      Quote: internatio
      The situation in Ukraine and Crimea has clearly divided the community into "friends" and "aliens"

      A couple of years ago I watched a video on the topic of prophecy, I don’t remember whose old enough. The bottom line is that Russia will be led by a man and will harshly cleanse the country of the fifth column and shed a lot of blood, but the people will be cleansed. Its reliability in my opinion is not so important, it is important that we see the strongest polarization and understand that it will not end in good, and therefore I would advise you to remember and write down so that no one repaints and does not lie low for a while, to put everyone out in the open.
  20. hrych
    hrych 11 March 2014 22: 07
    +6
    Against Russia, as always, they act in three main directions, with the front of the offensive visible from the West through the Black Sea coast, the Caucasus to Middle Asia, where, oddly enough, the belt interrupts the PRC and covers it from the Japs. Three main directions through the flower revolutions of Ukraine, Georgia, and Kyrgyzstan. Let's just say that in all directions the adversary was defeated in the West, South and East. The war in Georgia was not for South Ossetia and Abkhazia, but for the Greater Caucasus Range and it remained ours, Kyrgyzstan was defended by money and soon the Amer base will cease to exist. And now the main direction is the Army strike Center. But in the case of the brilliant Crimean operation, no matter how events unfolded, the enemy again suffered a crushing defeat at Sevastopol.
  21. Vrvarius
    Vrvarius 11 March 2014 22: 07
    +7
    I don’t know how others, but I consider conflicts on the border with the Russian Federation 100% an attempt to dig. all their plans are obvious. only trouble, it can be seen from the example of Ukraine that corrupt skins did not transfer to Russia, especially in the media. It seems to me that at present, this is a great danger.
  22. Vadim12
    Vadim12 11 March 2014 22: 08
    +7
    Lavrov found in US law a contradiction with the current policy:
    Russian Foreign Ministry Press Service: “Indeed, in accordance with the amendments made several years ago to the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, it is forbidden to“ provide financial assistance to the government of any state whose lawfully elected president was ousted as a result of a military coup or illegal decision “ ".

    Read more: http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/856936/#ixzz2vg9SmyGm
    Laurel Hammer!
  23. Nick
    Nick 11 March 2014 22: 09
    +3
    The author is right that the hand must be kept on the pulse, the ear is on the alert, and the powder is dry ...
    1. Vrvarius
      Vrvarius 11 March 2014 22: 16
      +1
      It's right. but still you need to work periodically with the population. it is very far from reality. Having talked with those who defend the Maidan, it became clear to me that they really believe that people came out themselves, that Russia is attacking. and conversations on topics more global send them into a trance. for they think on the scale of their anthill.
  24. Barsik
    Barsik 11 March 2014 22: 12
    +6
    This will be more correct
    1. Gato
      Gato 11 March 2014 22: 39
      +1
      Quote: Barsik
      This will be more correct

      Barsik love , I also like to play "Civilization" fellow
      laughing
  25. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 11 March 2014 22: 18
    +2
    The most commonly used terms are “coup”, “revolution”, “seizure of power”

    These "revolutionaries" should be imprisoned for life, and the enemies of Ukraine and Russia are clapping their hands to them, because the Slavs are dying and, in fact, from the Slavic country, with their hands on / D / O / N / kov, they create an enemy country for their ethnic brothers ... Those who followed these fascists, but in their essence are normal people, will have BITTER SIGHT ...
    1. Gato
      Gato 11 March 2014 22: 37
      0
      Quote: ia-ai00
      Slavs die

      I apologize for the cynicism, but not so many Slavs died (except for the "Berkuts"). And normal people will not follow the Nazis.
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 11 March 2014 22: 55
        0
        Each life is priceless ... It seems you regret that so far - not hundreds of thousands ??? You really are a cynic.
        They followed the "dream" of happiness in the EU, hand in hand with the Nazis. Now, maybe someone has already understood this, but openly, in Western Ukraine, talking about it is DANGEROUS.
  26. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 11 March 2014 22: 19
    +6
    On the one hand, I agree with the author, but on the other ... If we started to act in this way, abruptly, now the "whole world" would scream that Russia is an occupier who illegally introduced troops into the territory of a "sovereign state" and it is likely that on the territory of Ukraine our troops would have stood face to face with NATO troops. And there it is half a step to the Armageddian. So I think our government is doing the right thing.
  27. skifd
    skifd 11 March 2014 22: 21
    +3
    The opinion of the former ... There are those in the West whom these games of "democracy" with x .. (Ren) knows what the consequences are straining.
  28. vezunchik
    vezunchik 11 March 2014 22: 28
    +1
    http://youtu.be/XjKauWbzkY0
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 11 March 2014 22: 33
      +3
      Yes, they wrote about them, that they are afraid of the persecution of teachers ... it is logical to assume who they are ...
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  29. Cristall
    Cristall 11 March 2014 22: 32
    +1
    today, the drivers brought the sad news (they talk about people whose people were taken even despite the white ticket) and I climbed into the forums where women share their impressions about the summons and the husbands' withdrawals ... tin .. everything can be found there about cowardice and heroism and about the futility and by the way .. But .. here's what I found in one post - all that reflects the complexity of our situation
    Alexander Babich: It will be easy for us to kill Russians, and Russians - for us! It's about the technical side of our death: "We speak the same language and we will understand the radio communications on the air - and it will be easy for us to kill the Russians, and the Russians are us!" - Our armies are, in fact, armed with the same weapons and ammunition - it will be easy for us to kill each other! - We all learned to fight according to the same regulations (translation of the 'Timothy Statute of the AP of Ukraine' into Ukrainian, changed the essence) - it will be easy for us to kill the Russians, and they need us! - Maps, documentation , instructions, etc. we have practically the same language - it will be easy for us to kill each other! - It will be easy for us to interrogate and torture Russian prisoners of war, and they will have ours (no language problems)! - It will be easy for us to kill Russians, and they will we know the area where we will kill each other (I went on camping trips with the Russian friends in the Crimean mountains) and 80% of my guests-tourists were Russians! - In the dark, with poor coordination between units, the language factor and the similarity of form and thief zheniya will lead to confusion and we will be easy to kill, and theirs and Russians. And they will encounter the same thing (the experience of Chechnya showed this) .- In street battles, grappling in hand-to-hand fighting and tearing Adam's apple with our teeth, we will growl with them equally: “Yo .. your mother!”, And when dying, we’ll call MOM ! - To bury during the 'temporary huts' and sanitary burials, our funeral teams will be equally alike. And on plywood plates, the names of 'enemies' and 'theirs' will be in the same language. It will be important after the “victory”, (whoever “won, damn it!”), Not to confuse which monument to hang a flag over (in the Russian army there are “Kovalenko” fighters, as many as in the Ukrainian army “Ivanovs”). As a person who is engaged in the reburial of our soldiers who died in World War II, I know how difficult it is to figure it out later. It will be easy to bury in this war - OURS will be everywhere !!!! I am a Russian-speaking, Odessa historian who wrote the scripts for the Russian TV “Stories of the Russian State”, “Victory Time” and “Battle for Moscow”, I can’t put the phrase “into my brains” RUSSIAN OCCUPATION TROOPS IN UKRAINE '!!!! I CAN'T! !!!!! But I remember my service in the special units of the USSR Armed Forces (near Moscow from 1989 to 1991) and I asked for an assault rifle to go in my 43 years to defend my Ukraine from invaders from Russia! At the same time, I understand that I can see the guys I served with, or whom I took on excursions in the summer, and drank wine with them on the seashore .... Russians, I will defend Pushkin’s house in Odessa from you! Russians, I will defend Bunin’s apartments, the Tolstoy and Vorontsov’s palace, the Potemkin stairs and the monument to Catherine !!!! I will defend the graves of my two grandfathers - war veterans (sailor of the Black Sea Fleet and the hero of the Battle of Stalingrad). I will protect my grandmother - a war veteran,
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 11 March 2014 22: 55
      +4
      Quote: Cristall
      ... At the same time, I understand that I can see in the sight the guys I served with and drink wine with them on the seashore .... Russians, I will protect Pushkin's house in Odessa from you! Russians, I will protect from Bunin’s apartments, the Tolstoy and Vorontsov’s palace, the Potemkin stairs and the monument to Catherine !!!! I will defend the graves of my two grandfathers - war veterans (sailor of the Black Sea Fleet and the hero of the Battle of Stalingrad). I will protect my grandmother - a war veteran,


      Enough to dismiss the "nuns", soldier! Nobody attacks you! If "vodka" rules you, then this is a direct merit of our common enemies, from whom both you and me our Great USSR taught to defend! Be a man, not a snot!

      ..... Although this is very much like one of the elements of the information-psychological war ...
    2. tokin1959
      tokin1959 11 March 2014 23: 30
      +1
      this cattle was Babich, they didn’t take away his house, they didn’t force them to tear down graves, the Tolstoy and Vorontsovs palace was built by the Russian Tolstoys and Vorontsovs.
      I would say - brothers, let's live in one country, I will not shoot at you.
      but it turns out - he is going to protect the descendants of the Bandera, who took the supreme power in Kiev, who shot at his grandfathers.
      defender, what kuya he then carried the red flag and shouted - is America with us?
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 12 March 2014 01: 19
      +2
      These are the poets of Ukraine, the people turned their brains.
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/117/eyuz229.jpg
  30. Cristall
    Cristall 11 March 2014 22: 32
    0
    his wife - a Russian woman Svetlana Ivanova, three children and a mother with a father !!! Because I love it all !!!!!!! THIS IS MY HOMELAND!!!!!!! I will protect her !!!! Pushkin, Vorontsov, Gorky, Shevchenko, Bunin, Bulgakov .... I will protect them from you !!! You put it in your head !!!! I can not!!! The brain refuses to understand this !!!! Z.Y. Warrior, of course from me is not the same. I, like many Ukrainian peasants who go to the militia under 'Farewell of the Slavs' tomorrow, will be brought in 'zinc' and buried in Odessa. I will not visit Kamchatka, which I dreamed of since childhood ... I will not marry my two-year-old princesses, and I will not marry the son of Antokha. I will not bury my parents ... ((((But I will defend my Motherland - Ukraine, and cover you with obscene language! Because I won’t have time to learn my Ukrainian already well, a Russian soldier will kill me ... Russians, Think about whether you want to easily kill Ukrainians, and, with patriotic enthusiasm, bury your and our boys in the mass graves of their grandfathers ?????
    1. Gato
      Gato 11 March 2014 23: 00
      +3
      I recommend another 250 g of pepper and go to sleep. And no keyboard for the next 5 days (until the 16th). You, my friend, need peace and the friendly attention of people in white coats. yes
    2. vasiliysxx
      vasiliysxx 11 March 2014 23: 07
      +3
      Quote: Cristall
      Russians, think about whether you want to easily kill Ukrainians, and, with patriotic enthusiasm, bury your and our boys in the mass graves of their grandfathers ?????


      It is a pity that Babich does not write, when Ukraine joins NATO, they will already force you to go against the Russian peasant, simply because the West doesn’t need you or us.
      Anyway, such a devil this Yatsenyuk, even through the TV is felt.
      1. Gato
        Gato 11 March 2014 23: 56
        +1
        Quote: vasiliysxx
        Anyway, such a devil this Yatsenyuk, even through the TV is felt.

        Mon cher, do not watch TV (sorry for familiarity).
        And then the rabbits will seem like hell, and the hares - in general, tyrannosaurs laughing
    3. pilot_66
      pilot_66 12 March 2014 07: 11
      0
      Nnda brainwashed thoroughly. Ok protect.
  31. Gato
    Gato 11 March 2014 22: 34
    +2
    The author creates uncertainty, completely ignoring the principle of Okamm.
    In my opinion, in Ukraine there was a struggle between the old "world gendarmes" in the person of the United States and the resurgent (again!) Russia.
    While Russia has a tactical initiative, we hope that the pace will not be lost.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 11 March 2014 22: 53
      +1
      Quote: Gato
      While Russia has a tactical initiative, we hope that the pace will not be lost.


      Sergei say they cut off Russian TV in Ukraine? And how are you?
      1. Gato
        Gato 11 March 2014 23: 44
        +2
        Quote: Sid.74
        They say they cut off Russian TV in Ukraine? And how are you?

        Hello, Eugene! hi
        They chopped off, yes, but only on some cable channels - on the other, Russian channels still go. Yes, we poh ... We still have satellite and Internet.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 11 March 2014 23: 56
          +2
          hi Today I was having a discussion with a friend, he had an aunt from Krasnoyarsk contacted his relatives in Kiev! Well, a Kiev woman put in verbally both Putin and Crimea! everything!
          1. Gato
            Gato 12 March 2014 02: 06
            +1
            Quote: Sid.74
            Well, a Kiev woman verbally put in both Putin and the Crimea!

            This is the place to be.
            I know from my staff that opinions are divided on average 50 to 50. Kievans are usually more than loyal to Russia.
            Other "Kievites" - immigrants from the villages and recently moved to Kiev from the western region (who bought or rent apartments in Kiev) - zealously support the Maidan (but sincerely despise the same Yaytsenyuk) just a clinical example of schizophrenia - they do not perceive logic at all.
            Compared to their native rural ebens, Kiev seems to them to be Europe, and if they promise "European" nishtyaks, they are generally ready to become at least backwards, even in front.
          2. Gato
            Gato 12 March 2014 02: 35
            +1
            Quote: Sid.74
            in Ukraine it’s so horrible!

            Well, here the psychosis is forced artificially.
            Especially in relation to the Crimea. Like "forget our mine"
  32. onegin61
    onegin61 11 March 2014 22: 39
    -1
    Article by absolutely not a military man "how bad everything is, so that at least under the blanket." There are measures and countermeasures and arguments against which you will have to put your position. Ukraine has always behaved like a simpler from the very secession and became one of the last weak links.
  33. kelevra
    kelevra 11 March 2014 22: 49
    +1
    If I break down the usefulness of information on a percentage scale, I would put 10% with a plus sign. The article is somewhat similar to the first experience of a first-year student in writing a political essay. I will not go into too much detail, the only thing I will support the author is that our citizens themselves I’ve personally heard opinions and conversations on the topic-If the war is tomorrow! In 80% of cases, the answer was killer-I’ll go abroad, I need it! Many people are used to having everything, or at least the availability of everything, for entertainment, whims, dances, show off. And when you start talking about problems and external enemies, you get the answer that nothing will happen, the time of wars has passed and there is someone to protect us. This is a liberal-passive thinking and banal fear, to lose what is , not life and loved ones, but acquired or plundered good. Unfortunately, most of our people do not have self-motivation and principles, some ideas and their opinions, but this is the right way to surrender!
    1. Gato
      Gato 11 March 2014 22: 55
      0
      Quote: kelevra
      If I break down the usefulness of the information on a percentage scale, I would put 10% with a plus sign. The article is somewhat similar to the first experience of a first-year student in writing a political essay.

      Well said. Exactly.
  34. VeteranS
    VeteranS 11 March 2014 22: 54
    0
    There is nothing more dangerous than the complacency and liberal peacemaking of our "Westernizers" who are in the government and other bureaucratic structures .... The enemy in the person of NATO is already very close and very quickly can be at our houses and apartments ... now make strategically and tactically correct decisions at the highest and regional levels in order to exclude the development of a negative scenario for Russia.
  35. spymaster
    spymaster 11 March 2014 22: 58
    0
    Quote: Sma11
    The article is very ambiguous.

    I agree - on the one hand, it is necessary to really increase vigilance ... but on the other hand, we specifically act publicly, that is. exactly the opposite of the western bastard ... am. And then, in a sense, openness of action is the conduct of informational counteraction. Now, if citizens did not know about the intentions of our government, would they now show such strong support for his actions? ... a rhetorical question.
    Quote: schizophrenic
    Now is not the time and the wrong policies, many decisions are not immediately visible, even in Ukraine they become later and sometimes need to be on camera.

    That's right - sometimes it is necessary ... and who said that they show us everything? ... They show only what is possible ...
  36. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 11 March 2014 23: 07
    0
    Well, well, the feelings of the author are quite understandable. But now, I don’t know whether this is good or bad, (rather bad) the rules that we now follow do not imply to tell the scoundrel in the face everything that you think about him - you understand polites. It’s me that we pissed away the Power and it’s not easy to restore the position. Well, the fact that our "partners" will oppose this in every possible way, and perhaps not only they are an axiom. So, you will have to smile at these ghouls, albeit with clenched teeth. And, as for the main thing, of course, no one has canceled the postulate, Russia has only two allies - the army and the navy. Although I want to believe the allies will be. Now about Ukraine. Crimea in any case will be returned, not discussed. As for the rest, I can’t judge. And here's another thing, this is for some reassurance of the author - most of the fifth column has long been exposed and in the case of the "x" hour I do not envy them.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 12 March 2014 01: 30
      0
      For allies to be strong. There will be queues. But why such "allies" who are only for food? laughingContinuous market, damn it.
  37. vagabundo55
    vagabundo55 11 March 2014 23: 08
    +1
    Putin is a very strong politician, strong tactician and strategist, whom our highest authorities have not seen since the 40s of the twentieth century. He won 4 undisputed military-diplomatic victories in 14 years of his presidency and prime ministerial victory. Major victories: 1) successful guidance constitutional order in the North Caucasus (Chechnya); 2) the defeat of the military intervention of Georgia against South Ossetia and Abkhazia; 3) Syria; 4) Iran; 5) the provision of political refuge to R. Snowden.
    The United States has not received such tangible clicks on the nose for a long time. Following one after another. For the American leadership this is a shock. Events in Ukraine again began to develop not according to the first scenario developed overseas. In particular, intelligence services analysts
    hoped that under pressure from the Nazi junta Yanukovych would sign a document on Ukraine's accession to NATO, anticipating a possible military intervention by Russia. obeys
    Eastern and Southern Ukraine. There is a cold war of nerves. And V. Putin is still winning, delivering preemptive, competent injections. Pay attention, he is always half a step ahead of the "partners" from the United States ... Remember the supposedly "planned" military maneuvers. ..
    An informational, diplomatic victory is often much more significant than
    military. It’s not nice to change your mind, outsmart the enemy, putting his intelligence in an unfriendly light. But we have not only a wise leadership, but also a powerful military fist. And this is well understood in the West. Russia wakes up. Finally, it's time!
  38. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 11 March 2014 23: 09
    0
    <<< No one is going to declare war on you .... An undeclared, but obvious and very dangerous war is being waged against Russia (ALREADY), threatening the lives of millions of people ... In particular, they (the events in Ukraine) have especially vividly highlighted the unpreparedness of our leaders to a war that will very soon knock on our doors. This can be partly explained by the loss of professional skills, partly by a disregard for the country and their duties, and partly by direct and deliberate sabotage. >>>
    With so many libes .. people in power, around power and business circles of Russia, the Russian media community and the openly acting 5th column, it WILL BE different!
  39. ksenofont7
    ksenofont7 11 March 2014 23: 30
    0
    Quote: vagabundo55
    Putin is a very strong politician, strong tactician and strategist, whom our highest authorities have not seen since the 40s of the twentieth century. He won 4 undisputed military-diplomatic victories in 14 years of his presidency and prime ministerial victory. Major victories: 1) successful guidance constitutional order in the North Caucasus (Chechnya); 2) the defeat of the military intervention of Georgia against South Ossetia and Abkhazia; 3) Syria; 4) Iran; 5) the provision of political refuge to R. Snowden.
    The United States has not received such tangible clicks on the nose for a long time. Following one after another. For the American leadership this is a shock. Events in Ukraine again began to develop not according to the first scenario developed overseas. In particular, intelligence services analysts
    hoped that under pressure from the Nazi junta Yanukovych would sign a document on Ukraine's accession to NATO, anticipating a possible military intervention by Russia. obeys
    Eastern and Southern Ukraine. There is a cold war of nerves. And V. Putin is still winning, delivering preemptive, competent injections. Pay attention, he is always half a step ahead of the "partners" from the United States ... Remember the supposedly "planned" military maneuvers. ..
    An informational, diplomatic victory is often much more significant than
    military. It’s not nice to change your mind, outsmart the enemy, putting his intelligence in an unfriendly light. But we have not only a wise leadership, but also a powerful military fist. And this is well understood in the West. Russia wakes up. Finally, it's time!
    I agree. I agree completely. hi
  40. sarmat-4791
    sarmat-4791 11 March 2014 23: 48
    0
    And here is a "perennial herb from the Cabbage family" all over their face. Why was Georgia on the Black Sea not accepted into NATO? Because on the territory (de jure) of Georgia there were de facto foreign troops (i.e. Russia). And here on the territory of Crimea there are also (de jure and de facto) foreign troops.
  41. Shkiper
    Shkiper 12 March 2014 00: 22
    -2
    The author of the libel on the Russian leadership is a provocateur from the scriptwriters of the Kiev Maidan or the Russian fifth column, i.e. swamps. These are the trump cards against Russia, which, allegedly, because of "naivety and simplicity" in Budenov style (so attractive for dummies), is waving a certain, unknown to anyone Valentin Katasonov, and would like to get Americans with Eurosta. And the prohibitively deceitful Western media in their information war against Russia would have choked with delight, having received "arguments" according to Katasonov for their ravings about "these terrible Russians." Even William Shakespeare, through the lips of Hamlet, said: "... fussiness is not good." The referendum will take place on March 16, which should fix the liberation of Crimea from the 23-year occupation of it by Zapadenskiy're coming out-Russophobes, and this is without any bearish "advice" by the cunning swamp Katasonov, who got instructions from TV Dozhd and Shenderovich. The main trick of Katasonov's libel is to compose lies about the "good" Stalin before June 22, 1941, in order to belittle absolutely adequate and timely actions of Putin, which received massive enthusiastic support from Russian patriots. Katasonov's assertion about Stalin's "tireless labors" before the war (which in fact led to the capture of 3 million Red Army soldiers and the destruction of all equipment in the first days of the war, according to textbooks due to surprise, etc.), which even today, allegedly, are worthy of being an example to follow, it will not work even among the downs and oligophrenics. Well, the calculation for the reaction of others - so that the precipitate remains. A question for the editors of the site who issued the libel. Whose side are you on? It seems that with the maydanuts.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 12 March 2014 01: 42
      +1
      Bad is not bad, but ignoramuses are judged by history, and not vice versa.

      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/928/kaqh492.jpg
  42. krot
    krot 12 March 2014 02: 23
    0
    To defeat the US, we need to build nuclear torpedoes of increased power and range in order to wash America off! And launch them from the territory of Russia, without putting anyone at risk! I started and forgot ...) There is no missile defense under water
    1. pilot_66
      pilot_66 12 March 2014 07: 06
      0
      probably forgot to add copyright
      "great pacifist" "academician Sakharov" (c)
  43. macabrekill
    macabrekill 12 March 2014 02: 56
    0
    Russia, in principle, itself surrendered its interests to the West for decades, as the heir to the Union. And I think I saw what was happening in Ukraine for the last 10 years. And about Ukraine, "there is no country without POWER", if all the presidents of Ukraine took turns taking steps to surrender sovereignty, nat. interests, this does not mean that no one wants to take power ("a holy place is never empty"), especially since the West has been digging for a long time (1914, 1941, etc.). Ukraine now looks like a widow - it can't do "anything" about the housework, and says: - a peasant to the house!
  44. bald
    bald 12 March 2014 04: 53
    +1
    - You are all right, but you forget about one thing: Ukrainians behave towards others much worse than Jews. There is a proverb: "Where a Ukrainian has passed, a Jew has nothing to do." On their first visit to Ukraine in Kiev in the 80s, for example, they began to directly "explain" to me that they feed and support all of us (her). In 1991, in the same Kiev, even a simple grandmother from the market told me how now they will live happily without Russia. And what about Ukraine's policy in all subsequent years? What does all this say? That every nation is worthy of the government and the life that it has. And the slide of Ukraine to Nazism is a natural consequence of the internal worldview. At the level: "If living after separation from Russia is still bad, then it is necessary to liberate Ukraine from the Russians." -Primitive, but many in Ukraine believe in this, And well done Putin that does not get involved directly in the events and at the same time keeps the situation under control (I would like to at least believe in it). For me - not to interfere in any way into current events, so as not to be smeared in this shit - Only if they themselves invite, otherwise they will again appoint the main culprits of their own insolvency
  45. Cristall
    Cristall 12 March 2014 12: 25
    +1
    Quote: macabrekill
    Ukraine now looks like a widow - it can't do "anything" about the housework, and says: - a peasant would go to the house!

    and to the head)
    in general, what you started up, I quoted a comment on the women's site - that’s where the woman’s passions ..
    I myself am trying to just really look at the situation - there are dangers, the mind must someday win.