New Post-Soviet Scenario: Why the West Should Carefully Act in Ukraine

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AUTHOR - JEFFRE SAKS, well-known American economist, Ph.D., director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University, one of the authors of the policy of "shock therapy" in Russia, Poland, Bolivia, head of the group of economic advisers to President Yeltsin from 1991 to 1994, special adviser to the UN Secretary General on poverty alleviation. According to Time magazine, he was twice among the most influential world leaders in 100.

Events in Ukraine unfold rapidly; political and economic crisis develops into military confrontation. The mass uprising in Kiev, which overthrew the corrupt and incompetent regime of Viktor Yanukovych, accomplished this outside of a clear legal framework, allowing for the restoration of democratic rule and a stable and responsible policy towards Russia.

After Yanukovych fled Kiev, the Ukrainian parliament instantly decided to repeal the law defining the legal status of Russian and other minority languages ​​(although this decision was later reversed). Russia responded to the overthrow of Yanukovych, which was viewed as an illegitimate putsch, and to the actions of parliament, in which the attack on the rights of ethnic Russians was spotted, by the military occupation of the Crimea, where its Black Sea fleet is based and mainly Russian-speaking population lives.

The United States and other Western powers responded with threats of sanctions and other countermeasures against Russia. Clearly exaggerated statements from both sides - in the West about returning to the Cold War, in Russia about the seizure of power in Kiev by the Nazis - continue to fuel the crisis.

Considering this chain of events, it is difficult not to recall the devastating series of miscalculations that led 100 years ago to World War I. The situation in Ukraine is just as fraught with the possibility of dangerous miscalculations from all sides, growing on the basis of heated opinions and arrogance.

All four sides of the crisis - Russia, Ukraine, the United States and the European Union - are obliged today to recognize the dangerous consequences of further escalation. Russia in Crimea has taken actions that are illegal from the point of view of international law. But this is not the basis for an arrogant and doomed West reaction that can transform a dangerous situation into a catastrophe. This crisis can still be resolved reasonably and peacefully. It can even be done for the benefit of all parties. But it requires not only the restoration of the territorial integrity of Ukraine, but also the recognition of the legitimacy of the interests and concerns of Russia.

Any Ukrainian government - especially such as the current transitional one acting as an interim government - has a pragmatic need for cooperation with its powerful neighbor.
Western powers themselves are obliged to recognize the limited legitimacy and scope of authority of the current transitional government. Western leaders have to tell the leaders in Kiev the truth - Russia is a powerful neighbor, the main trading partner, a source of Ukrainian energy resources and the main creditor. The West should emphasize that it is impossible to simply want to get rid of the inevitable influence of Russia in Ukraine.

Russian fears, Russian interests

I have observed previous cycles of distrust close up. At the beginning of 90, when Russia was a democracy that had just gained independence (I served as an adviser to Prime Minister Yegor Gaidar in 1992 and 1993), the United States could not provide Russia with the financial assistance that was urgently needed to stabilize the economic crisis the result of the collapse of the Soviet Union.

The Russian people, and no doubt Russian President Vladimir Putin, have learned a lesson from this experience: at a critical moment, the United States was not interested in helping even a democratic Russia in a truly desperate economic situation. The Russians came to the conclusion (unfortunately true, from my point of view) - they should not especially trust the United States in defending Russia's fundamental national interests. And among these interests will always be the security of the vulnerable western flank of Russia.
In pursuing its interests over the past two decades, Russia viewed the West as a periodic antagonist and rival. In the past few years, the EU’s demonstrated desire to conclude a trade agreement with Ukraine has little contributed to dispelling Russian suspicions. Such an agreement would turn Ukraine’s economy towards Europe and from Russia, which would lead to economic losses for the Russian Federation in the form of loss of trade and investment ties.

Moreover, Russia fears that where the European Union is heading, NATO may soon come. Russia has already watched with great concern the expansion of NATO in Eastern Europe. With considering historical the memory of the many monstrous wars that she waged on the western borders, Russia's fears are understandable.
Russia also sees the obvious practice of double standards. The European Union and NATO are getting closer and closer to the Russian borders. However, when Russia tries to form the Eurasian Economic Union, which includes Belarus, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia and, possibly, Armenia, Western critics immediately accuse it of trying to recreate the empire.

None of the above in no way justifies Russia's violation of international law when sending armed forces to occupy part of Ukraine. I do not condone such illegal actions, but only offer a context and explanation for them.

From my point of view, Russia does not at all try to provoke hostilities with the West, and even less does not seek to recreate the Russian Empire, as some promising Western commentators try to imagine. Russia is guided by sincere concern rooted in its history and what it considers to be its national interests, including basic national security. She is worried about the hostile Ukraine, caught in the grip of anti-Russian sentiment in Kiev, and the likelihood that the West will try to play a card of these sentiments.

The fact is that the stability of Ukraine can be achieved only in cooperation with Russia. And such cooperation can be realized only with a conciliatory, rather than antagonistic approach to resolving the crisis on the part of the Western powers. Instead of resorting to aggressive economic and political intervention in Ukraine, the West should encourage and encourage Russia and Ukraine to establish long-term and mutually beneficial relations.

The European Union and the United States can help this prospect that is beneficial to all, not by sanctions, but by methods of calm diplomacy both in Kiev and in Moscow. Part of the deal, of course, would be the preservation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity.

Economic liabilities

Undoubtedly, the desperate financial situation of Ukraine requires immediate attention. The country's external debt has skyrocketed in recent years, and now this debt is demanded to be repaid. It can not be paid, and it is impossible to refinance without emergency measures.

The West can valiantly talk about financial assistance to Ukraine, but this is fantasy. Despite the bravado of the last days, the West is not really able to shoulder all the costs of financially improving Ukraine. The United States pledged to provide $ 1 billion in loan guarantees, but this does not help much given the fact that the Ukrainian current account deficit is estimated at about $ 13,5 billion this year.

And if Ukraine will irrevocably sever relations with Russia, expenses will soar even higher - definitely higher than any price that the West would be willing to consider. On the other hand, in the event of the restoration of rational relations between Russia and Ukraine, the Russian Federation would probably be ready to work together with Ukraine and the European Union to help finance the country's economic reorganization.

It is important to realize that Ukraine is in a completely different position than Poland or other post-communist countries to the west of it. The Ukrainian industry is largely intertwined with the Russian industry. Ukraine is much more dependent on Russia in the energy sector. The geographical position of the country makes it difficult to attract foreign investors from Western Europe, unless in conjunction with the Russian industry, which also includes Russian markets and Russian enterprises. In short, Ukrainian economic reality reflects its geographic reality. Ukraine is connected with Europe, and with Russia, and is unable to break ties with one of the parties, perhaps with a destructive price.

All this serves as an argument in favor of closer economic relations with the European Union, but not at the expense of relations with Russia. The goal of the European Union should not be to tear Ukraine away from Russia or to derail Russia's economic ties with its neighbor, but to expand economic relations between the European Union, Russia, Ukraine and other countries of Eurasia. Such extended cooperation would also stimulate the EU, expanding markets for European goods and technologies.

Both Ukraine and Russia should be ready for an important and quick breakthrough due to closer cooperation with the European Union and due to the growth of mutual trade. Both Ukraine and Russia are in dire need of updating their industry. In the case of Ukraine, including, it refers to heavy industry, for example, metallurgy. Over the next decade, Russian potential will manifest itself in more complex industries, such as aviation, automotive, railway, aerospace and industrial engineering (such as equipment for the mining industry and agriculture). However, Russia can become competitive on the international market in these sectors only through closer production and investment ties with major European manufacturers (especially with the main German industrial companies).

Mutually beneficial solution

To achieve such a mutually beneficial scenario, the West will need what it clearly lacks since the end of the Cold War: long-term joint thinking about actions with and with Russia. Russia, of course, should abandon threats against Ukraine and fully restore the sovereignty of the Crimea.

But the West should also provide Russia with the security and guarantees of the economic cooperation it needs. This implies closer economic cooperation between Russia and the European Union; respect for Russia's efforts to establish closer economic ties with its own Eurasian neighbors; the support of the Ukrainian government, equally respectful of both Russia and the European Union, and not one that threatens the security and economic interests of Russia; and respect by all parties to the borders and national sovereignty of Ukraine.

The European Union, Russia, Ukraine and the United States are equally interested in the system of international law and foreign policy behavior, which is determined not only by national convenience and profit, but by the need for deeper cooperation. It would be wise if all four parties followed this principle today. In this way, they will be able to avoid the escalation of the current crisis — a crisis that could be crowned with tragedy, if verbalization and bombast prevail over reality.

This article is a translation of a material originally published in Foreign Affairs 5 March 2014. © Council on Foreign Relations. Distributed by Tribune Media Services
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  1. +41
    11 March 2014 19: 32
    Why should the West act more carefully? Yes, because the time is different, not even when our heart bleeds, we looked at the Serbs and could not help, now there is something to help both the desire and vision of the situation of our American friends over the past 15 years
    1. jjj
      +15
      11 March 2014 19: 59
      We have passed the science of this master in practice. We know everything. And no matter how sophisticated he is, there is a screw for the tricky part
      1. +18
        11 March 2014 20: 11
        But To the West Russia should also be provided with the security and guarantees of economic cooperation that it needs


        Well, it’s still necessary to see who needs whom and from whom.





        1. +6
          11 March 2014 20: 21
          Quote: GreatRussia
          Well, it’s still necessary to see who needs whom and from whom.

          "The European Union intends to start imposing sanctions against the Russian Federation from next Monday, March 17. This was announced at a press conference by Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk."

          Here it is necessary to start from Poland so that it does not protrude.
          1. +11
            11 March 2014 20: 27
            Quote: Cherdak
            Here it is necessary to start from Poland so that it does not protrude.

            This ugly Eurosaviv has long been time to tame.
      2. +18
        11 March 2014 20: 15
        It’s interesting in the USA they still teach in schools (I don’t even ask about logic):

        The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs stated that the declaration of independence, adopted on March 11 by the Crimean parliament, complies with all international law. This was reported by the press service of the department.

        The ministry noted that the document adopted by parliament contains the legal justification for such a step with references to the UN Charter and other international documents as well at the conclusion of the UN International Court of Kosovo in 2010. Then the court confirmed that the unilateral declaration of independence by a part of the state does not contradict international law.

        In this regard, the Foreign Ministry considers the decision of the Crimean parliament to be absolutely legitimate. The agency said that Russia would respect the results of the referendum scheduled for March 16 in the republic, during which residents of the Crimea decide whether they want to remain part of Ukraine or join Russia.

        Like this)))
        1. +2
          11 March 2014 20: 52
          Well, in addition to recognize sovereignty
          For Basque and Scots, Indians and Flemings
          Freedom for Quebec and Alaska too
          Give Russian Flag ...
        2. +3
          12 March 2014 07: 15
          Quote: gfs84
          Conclusion of the UN International Court of Kosovo of 2010. Then the court confirmed that the unilateral declaration of independence by a part of the state does not contradict international law.

          And Musya Yatsenyuk, when Tada was the head of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, fully supported this decision. You have to be consistent, I suppose. And "bloody tyrant Putin" back in 2008 tried to explain to common people that this would entail a "parade of sovereignties", only not in the USSR and Russia, but among gentlemen of the champions of democracy. History does not teach these comrades anything.
      3. +2
        11 March 2014 22: 35
        Yes, weasel gently, ferret! Schaz you, "let's restore territorial integrity", wait. See you in Kiev, greet you with flowers! So as not to be identified, we will be on such a green tank! bully
      4. avg
        +1
        11 March 2014 23: 34
        Quote: jjj
        And no matter how sophisticated he is, there is a screw for the tricky part

        Yeah, softly lay down ... He keeps us for the Papuans, and even offers to "pay for the banquet".
        It was not so disgusting for a long time, as if I plunged into the 90s, and saw Yeltsin howling "Kalinka" ...
        1. 0
          12 March 2014 06: 57
          Why Yeltsin with a capital letter?
      5. 0
        12 March 2014 00: 42
        Quote: "Western leaders must tell the leaders in Kiev the truth - Russia is a powerful neighbor, main trading partner, source of Ukrainian energy and main creditor. The West must emphasize that it is impossible to simply want and get rid of Russia's inevitable influence in Ukraine."
        ================================================== ===============
        Dear partners, it’s too late to drink the barge, when the stomach has fallen off!

        Quote: "Russia, naturally, should abandon threats against Ukraine and fully restore the sovereignty of Crimea."
        ================================================== ==========
        And what does Russia have to do with it ?? The ARC, by the will of the people and its own parliamentary initiative, carried out a number of necessary measures leading to the declaration of independence on March 11, 2014 (Gaining sovereignty). Return to Ukraine is no longer possible. hi
        Mr. Jeffrey Sachs, not properly managing the issue, takes the liberty of making recommendations ...
    2. +15
      11 March 2014 20: 05
      Give the fate of the Serbian people to the Americans! Who is now interested in the stories of our sworn friends about mutually beneficial partnerships, normalization of relations and cooperation? No gentlemen, your boat left on its last voyage. Have a nice trip hi
  2. +12
    11 March 2014 19: 34
    The West should encourage and stimulate Russia and Ukraine to establish long-term and mutually beneficial relations.

    with whom? with scumbags? in the 90s he advised and is now climbing. maybe there is a law to demand compensation from the councils for damage from it?
    1. 0
      11 March 2014 20: 11
      Quote: andrei332809
      with whom? with scumbags?

      That's right - before it was necessary to "encourage" now it's too late ...
      Quote: andrei332809
      in the 90s he advised and is now climbing.

      Well, I need to promote myself, otherwise I could not "advise" so that we completely fell apart, and now I have forgotten, grants are not given ...
    2. +3
      11 March 2014 20: 13
      To achieve such a mutually beneficial scenario, the West will need what it clearly lacks since the end of the Cold War: long-term joint thinking about actions with and with Russia. Russia, of course, should abandon threats against Ukraine and fully restore the sovereignty of the Crimea.

      All robbed, forget about the Crimea! Here about the rest of the Southeast, you can still grind! And that is not a fact! stop
  3. +21
    11 March 2014 19: 34
    The Russian Federation would probably be ready to work together with Ukraine and the European Union to help finance the country's economic reorganization.

    Key phrase.
    We pushed and pay Russia.
    FUCK TO YOU!
  4. machinetchik_39
    +6
    11 March 2014 19: 36
    The European Union, Russia, Ukraine and the United States are equally interested in the system of international law and foreign policy behavior, which is determined not only by national convenience and profit, but by the need for deeper cooperation. It would be wise if all four parties followed this principle today. In this way, they will be able to avoid the escalation of the current crisis — a crisis that could be crowned with tragedy, if verbalization and bombast prevail over reality.
    - it would be extremely interesting if the author analyzed the implementation of the provisions of international law at least by Ukraine in relation to the glorification of the Nazis convicted by an international tribunal! I am silent about the "pranks" of the United States and the EU, their long-standing desire to adhere to the provisions of international treaties is too obvious negative
  5. +31
    11 March 2014 19: 36
    Here, behind all the rhetoric, there was not very noticeable news, however:


    China's largest US lender lashed out at the US authorities for failing to prevent a fall in Washington's credit rating and expressed confidence that the world needs another reserve currency that can replace the dollar.

    Gone are the days when the United States could "secure a way out of the problems that they themselves create," the Xinhua PRC official agency reported, inoMI reported.

    “There should be a new reserve currency in the world that will replace the dollar,” the agency continues.
    India’s response to the US downgrade was also negative, while Japan and South Korea expressed confidence that US government bonds were still credible.

    1. +2
      11 March 2014 21: 18
      It is high time hi thanks for the info good
  6. +16
    11 March 2014 19: 37
    Yeah, Gaidar's advisor ... The best recommendation for immediate hanging. And regarding the article, the justification for the retreat of the West from Ukraine with the inevitable incantations about "freedom", "democracy" and other things.
    1. +6
      11 March 2014 19: 47
      If about China is true. West here.
      1. +1
        11 March 2014 20: 55
        Not really (zdec), you need to remember that Chinese loans reach 60% in the United States. and this is the money of China that he will lose too. Most likely it will be a long process.
  7. +7
    11 March 2014 19: 38
    Quote: The West can valiantly talk about financial assistance to Ukraine, but this is fantasy. Despite the bravado of the last days, the West is not really able to shoulder all the costs of financially improving Ukraine. The United States pledged to provide $ 1 billion in loan guarantees, but this does not help much given the fact that the Ukrainian current account deficit is estimated at about $ 13,5 billion this year.Quite sober and sensible reasoning. Only it is unlikely that the author will reach the mind of Ukraine, for 23 of the year, the brainwashed can not.
    1. Bi_Murza
      +3
      11 March 2014 19: 52
      see the urks, but they only wanted to sneeze at the interests of the people
      1. +3
        11 March 2014 20: 34
        ladies and gentlemen, the Ukrainian oligarchs, submit the Ukrainian army for uniforms, otherwise they go in uniform No. 8, which is what Spiz was wearing in the news of NTV to Turchinov Mou. My son and I laughed for half an hour.
  8. +18
    11 March 2014 19: 39
    No one has canceled the boomerang rule yet
    1. +5
      11 March 2014 20: 15
      Here it is how to burp it! good
    2. 52
      0
      11 March 2014 21: 16
      And can you laugh after the words of the UN or neighing early?
    3. 52
      0
      11 March 2014 21: 16
      And can you laugh after the words of the UN or neighing early?
  9. +13
    11 March 2014 19: 40
    One-way game A situation in which one side gets all the advantages, the other carries all the problems
  10. +12
    11 March 2014 19: 41
    Let us analyze the author’s words: for a mutually beneficial solution to the situation it is necessary

    West: long-term joint deliberation of actions in relation to and together with Russia.
    guarantees of economic cooperation, respect for Russia's efforts to establish closer economic ties with its own Eurasian neighbors.

    Russia: fully restore the sovereignty of Crimea.

    Those. they give us promises and handshakes, and we must surrender the Crimea. "Surrender your homeland, and we will pat you on the shoulder"

    SCHASSSSS. I doubt that after the lessons of the 90s someone will lead to this. especially considering that the author worked in the Gaidar team on the destruction of the Russian economy
  11. Oksana
    +13
    11 March 2014 19: 41
    The article is a bit naive (or we are simply "tired" of this), but it is spelled out correctly!
    I will try the same naive questions!
    Naive question number 1. Why Euromaidan prohibits the Russian language?
    Naive question number 2 (in continuation of the previous one). Why does euromaidan hate Russians?
    Naive question number 3. Why are Euromaidans so many fascists?
    Naive question №4. Why Euromaidan glorifies fascist Bandera?
    Naive question №5. Why is the Euromaidan norm double standards?
    Naive question number 6. Why after Euromaidan power passed into the hands of oligarchs?
    Naive question number 7. Why did the Ukrainian armed forces of Ukraine surrender so easily in Crimea?
    Naive question number 8 And who has time for everything and everything!
    Etc!
  12. +5
    11 March 2014 19: 44
    "I served in 1992 and 1993 as an adviser to Prime Minister Yegor Gaidar ...
    Russia's violation of international law when sending armed forces to occupy a part of Ukraine. Russia in Crimea took actions that are illegal from the point of view of international law. "Thanks to him (" one of the authors of the policy of "shock therapy" in Russia "), we felt bad in the 90s. And he is still trying to be clever ...
  13. +1
    11 March 2014 19: 46
    It is good that in the West there were realists.

    Sanctions will hit everyone ... First of all ...- at the Germans!

    By the way, is it possible to uncover the nuclear club in response to the imposition of sanctions against Russia? Could nuclear forces be put on high alert?

    Maybe this step sobering up the abnormal?
    1. +1
      11 March 2014 20: 17
      Quote: Enot-poloskun


      By the way, is it possible to uncover the nuclear club in response to the imposition of sanctions against Russia? Could nuclear forces be put on high alert?

      Maybe this step sobering up the abnormal?

      Forgive me, I do not know what your name is, be careful with such "advice". In the best case, Crimea has made a decision, but the West urgently needs to decide how not to bother Russia with its "proposals", there is no time for weapons of mass destruction! God forbid!
    2. 0
      11 March 2014 22: 30
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      It is good that in the West there were realists.

      Sanctions will hit everyone ... First of all ...- at the Germans!

      By the way, is it possible to uncover the nuclear club in response to the imposition of sanctions against Russia? Could nuclear forces be put on high alert?

      Maybe this step sobering up the abnormal?

      like a test of combat readiness, there is training and all that, in between cases, launch a rocket at some sort of training ground laughing
  14. +5
    11 March 2014 19: 47
    Here is the uro, again with his advice he’s climbing !!!
  15. upasika1918
    +4
    11 March 2014 19: 50
    That’s whom I personally would ... Let them have a go.
  16. 0
    11 March 2014 19: 50
    all the same, sound thoughts appear in the West, I’m sure that the further the more there will be more of them.
  17. +2
    11 March 2014 19: 51
    "Russia took actions in Crimea that are illegal from the point of view of international law. None of the above in any way justifies Russia's violation of international law when sending armed forces to occupy part of Ukraine", but you would not go JEFFREY SACKS, a well-known American economist . Look behind yourself.
  18. RND
    +9
    11 March 2014 19: 52
    Here is a parasite !!!!
    -Bay-by-byu,
    -Everything will be fine...
    -Bay-by-byu,
    -Krim to give ...
    X *** RU YOU FOR THE MOST TOMATOES !!!! am
  19. +3
    11 March 2014 19: 54
    Even now, realizing that they and their policies have gotten rid of it all the same, they are trying to otmazatsya and smear in their g ... not yet anyone! That scumbag !!!
  20. +1
    11 March 2014 19: 58
    Fuck you. Smell what it smells like? "Restore the full sovereignty of Crimea", where have you been before, my friend ...
    1. Sergh
      +1
      11 March 2014 21: 27
      Quote: Nikoha.2010
      Did you smell what it smells like?

      And they are envious, they can’t chop off such a sham to themselves and at their side. All is some thread of Mali, Shmali in Africa with blacks for distant lands. And here and his people in the board and next and adapted to their infrastructure. All seven pleasures, and so their European toad, and even more so, Amerov’s stifles, which already boils with boiling water and foam at the mouth.
  21. +19
    11 March 2014 20: 00
    Here the problem is different
  22. Shatt
    +7
    11 March 2014 20: 01
    bastard! I didn’t even read this one. In the 90s he has already made his contribution, for which he can already be quartered, and here he continues to 3,14
  23. +2
    11 March 2014 20: 02
    The article is good, but it was a month and a half or two late. Now, I'm afraid it’s too late ..... especially regarding the preservation of the integrity of Ukraine
    1. 0
      12 March 2014 07: 01
      when they write such p..ry there can be no words "good article" this is the same as dividing enemies into bad and good
  24. shatu
    +4
    11 March 2014 20: 07
    All four sides of the crisis - Russia, Ukraine, U.S. and the European Union

    I am amazed at this way of posing the question. The question is with what "heh" USA is here?
    Do you have the Monroe Doctrine, so sit in your Americas, why are you pulling your dirty hands to us, geeks ?!
  25. +2
    11 March 2014 20: 07
    Another beautiful fairy tale .... Like, we admit that Russia is partially right, but nevertheless it must fully submit to "economic expediency", which is determined exclusively by the States.
    Most of all I liked two points:
    In the early 90s, when Russia was a democracy that had just become independent ....., the United States could not provide Russia with the financial assistance urgently needed to stabilize the economic crisis inherited from the collapse of the Soviet Union.

    How could we survive without her, miracle !!!
    And the second:
    The Western powers themselves must recognize the limited legitimacy and scope of the current transitional government.
    The idea itself is very sensible, although it is expressed ... as if it is ... "very softly", it is a pity that the conclusions from it are completely opposite.
    In general, again about nothing.
  26. Sun 162
    +7
    11 March 2014 20: 10
    All the articles of the Westernizers boil down to one thing, that Russia must abandon Crimea and then Russia will again be a "good" partner deceived by the West, well, they don’t want to understand that everything has gone too far, who asked for the language pulled Obama with his mongrels when they threatened Russia, and now when they realized that they screwed up to the fullest and it would not be possible to get out of this situation without losing the so-called world domination, they thought about it, before it was necessary to think ur..dy.
  27. Counter
    +3
    11 March 2014 20: 19
    For some reason, the article did not answer one question: what are Americans doing in impoverished and destroyed Ukraine ??? I remember, commenting on the situation in Ukraine, Nuland generally agreed to the point that "All of us, NEIGHBORS of Ukraine, want ... and blah, blah, blah!" A normal neighbor of the United States is Ukraine, right Mexico! fellow
  28. Tolibas
    +1
    11 March 2014 20: 20
    Blah blah blah! Balabol, included in a hundred notorious kov. Storyteller, distant liberals.
  29. +8
    11 March 2014 20: 23
    smile An interesting little article ... It turns out that Geyro'soyuz and SyShyPy will make a mess in Ukraine, and Russia has to pay for it.
    There is only 2 of the question:
    1 - And what matters here are UWBs, if you pretend that they are really out of business in this mess?
    2 - What does Geyro's Union have to do with it?
    It seems that the noise inside Ukraine and Russia here has the right to take care of the safety of its citizens (Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation) and the safety of Russian-speaking residents of Ukraine. But I don’t remember something European speaking there.
  30. +2
    11 March 2014 20: 23
    The European Union and the United States can contribute to this advantageous prospect for all, not through sanctions, but through calm diplomacy in both Kiev and Moscow.

    They helped, they helped, they sweaty feet in their mouth.
  31. 0
    11 March 2014 20: 27
    Everything is simpler. The West needs a united Ukraine. Otherwise, how to share debts? And they are impressive. And Lemberg with debts of a hundred lard did not give up to anyone. wassat
  32. +3
    11 March 2014 20: 27
    We have a president-Putin! And that’s all said. We’ll not think enough. And we, the people, will support
  33. +2
    11 March 2014 20: 29
    Quote: olegkrava
    The European Union and the United States can contribute to this advantageous prospect for all, not through sanctions, but through calm diplomacy in both Kiev and Moscow.

    They helped, they helped, they sweaty feet in their mouth.

    I do not advise. Bite off. smile
  34. +2
    11 March 2014 20: 33
    In vain do you minus the article, after all, the person tried to translate. Cool article, besides, you can neighing. Entot expert offers us to abandon the Crimea, recognize the authority of the ukronatsik as legitimate, and even pay their dances on the Maidan along with external debt. What a naive Tang expert! Thank you, laughed heartily!
  35. +1
    11 March 2014 20: 36
    There are no words to explain to the elite of the West that Russia has its own national interests and they understand only our actions.
    The steeper, the more efficient.
  36. +4
    11 March 2014 20: 36
    Article minus, although the author is a good spec.
    He’s just a specialist in the destruction of the socialist economy and works in the interests of Sasha.
    He understands that the primitive game of the collapse of Russia no longer has a chance of success. And he hopes that if Russia is oiled and again promised something, then we will again lead.

    Will not work. Now everything should be exactly the opposite.
    Let the farmers fidget, dodge, dream and secretly diplomat.
    And we will openly bend our line.

    And next time. when the President of Russia says something, they will listen more carefully.
    1. 0
      11 March 2014 20: 50
      I agree with the text of the comment, basically, only the article PLUS! If we ignore the obsessive thought that the author is our enemy and that he is still a "Jesuit", then the conclusions are correct. If all interested parties and hostages of the situation follow the recommendations, then the conflict will be resolved to everyone's happiness! The hat-backing position is not constructive ...
    2. 0
      11 March 2014 21: 03
      hi Respect agrees !!! +
  37. Ivan 63
    +1
    11 March 2014 20: 47
    Yes!? What can I say! Arrived, gentlemen advisers! But seriously, it’s certainly better for us not to talk about any dialogue with these benefactors of human rights — you’ll spoil less nerves, but the word is known for their price — paper is more expensive. With regards to the Crimea, the question is closed! And then, when you understand how much the Yeltsinoids have spoiled, how the special forces are needed now, after all, advisers have worked and still dare to teach us now. It’s time, it’s time, to transfer the lists of these advisers and their students for execution to the competent authorities as they said earlier.
  38. 0
    11 March 2014 20: 49
    A drop of truth in an ocean of lies. A vivid example of Western demagogy. Minus to Sax.
  39. +5
    11 March 2014 20: 50
    To begin with, there are not four sides to Russia, Ukraine, the USA and the EU. Let's be honest. Russia and the whole bourgeois world bristling against us, for some reason recognizing fascism. And you know what. Thanks to the worst and most destructive weapons in the world, and yes to the nuclear weapons that we have and have delivery vehicles (thanks to Comrade Stalin), it is this weapon that keeps Western bloodsuckers from declaring war on us. Is not it?
  40. parus2nik
    +3
    11 March 2014 20: 54
    Russia in Crimea has taken actions that are illegal from the point of view of international law.
    The bombing of Belgrade, so that Serbia would recognize the independence of Kosovo, is within the framework of international law .. Don’t tell JEFFREY SAX .. Do not engage in fornication ... But then, for the past 20 years, the Yalta and Helsinki agreements have been practically denounced .. about the inviolability of European borders ..A denunciation served as the collapse of the USSR .. I don’t remember the US statements that protested against the withdrawal of the Baltic states, Georgia ... from the USSR ..
    1. +1
      11 March 2014 21: 02
      Yes, everyone already deeply shit on these international rights. And politicians and ordinary people. This is another matter. Who is the point will be stronger.
  41. +2
    11 March 2014 21: 05
    And about fears is right, and about the notorious American honesty and help is right. But where did he get the "military occupation of Crimea" and the need to "restore the territorial integrity of Ukraine" when nothing like this had happened yet? The attempt to play the objectivity of the assessment failed. These his advice, and all his advice to the unforgettable Gaidar, are not consistent. The slogan "Guys, let's live together" turned out to be suitable only for the famous cartoon. After Kosovo, it won't work. But then they were warned.
  42. +1
    11 March 2014 21: 17
    I don’t know gentlemen like you, but the tone infuriated me most of all: "The West should encourage and stimulate Russia and Ukraine to establish long-term and mutually beneficial relations."
    Stimulants, EPT! The guys finally can play too much! We are experimental hamsters!
    1. 0
      11 March 2014 21: 41
      Quote: dmitriygorshkov
      I don’t know gentlemen like you, but the tone infuriated me most of all: “The West should encourage and stimulate Russia and Ukraine to establish long-term and mutually beneficial relations

      It looks like the author wanted to say that the West wants to kneel down and suck Mishka something. Remember that there was a nuclear submarine "Kursk", money was immediately found. I think the GDP will not lead to the tricks of the West.
  43. +2
    11 March 2014 21: 19
    Why usa What side is the USA here? As already got this usa! Go to distant non-existence - usa! There is your HOUSE!
  44. 0
    11 March 2014 21: 30
    Lord, what nonsense! Dude, as he used to think in the formats of Russia's democratization under Yolkin, he still cannot clear his brains. Ugh, damn it! Another moron crawled out of a pile of old trash and teaches how to live. Interact with Ukraine - and you will be happy. Abomination.
  45. 0
    11 March 2014 21: 41
    read an article what came to the conclusion that the author’s polemics incline us to the settlement of an imminent conflict to the detriment of our state, an attempt to impose (it’s better a bad world than a victorious war) and almost lie down under everyone just to please other states. hi Sorry, but it doesn’t procrait me stop
  46. 0
    11 March 2014 21: 47
    We are withdrawing from the START treaty, which means that we are quietly installing nuclear warheads on the Iskander. Poles and other Baltic states are shaking and waiting. They are waiting ...
    1. 0
      11 March 2014 22: 43
      This is our killer return move.
      By the way, evaluating the prospect, it is these actions that are sobering for Europeans.
  47. 0
    11 March 2014 21: 50
    The West will not understand that the people who created the State from the Baltic to the Pacific Ocean, from the northern seas to the Black Sea and Lake Baikal. Never was affectionate and fluffy WE ARE CONQUERERS! AND WE WILL REVIVE THE EMPIRE! Either under the red or under the red-blue-white banner!
  48. 0
    11 March 2014 22: 08
    The author’s article is a usual attempt to sit on two chairs, or maybe three, sheer compromises, discussions, negotiations, comparisons, etc., etc.
    Therefore, neither plus nor minus.
    If he is such a crazy specialist, let him answer to himself, well, or ask the psaki, why the heck they got so much dough supposedly to maintain and develop democracy in Ukraine.
    Here it only remains that the polemic should be bred, and it will not fix the thing that is not a material crisis.
  49. +1
    11 March 2014 22: 52
    Wonder noted on a hot topic. fool
  50. 0
    11 March 2014 22: 54
    He put the article plus only for moving the author’s thoughts in the right direction, but slowly, gentlemen from the west, you slowly acknowledge your mistakes. The article was at least two to three months late when the Euromaidan had not yet gone too far. On-duty statements about certain violations of international law by Russia testify only to the state of affairs with freedom of speech in the West (otherwise few will publish it). Moreover, the West still has not understood that Russia's attitude to Ukraine is not so much an economy as family relations between a parent and a prodigal son, although, given the current attitude to a traditional family and family ties in the West, this is not surprising. Russia and Ukraine are not Germany and Poland or the USA and Mexico.
  51. 0
    11 March 2014 23: 08
    Listen to the Anglo-Saxon politicians and do the opposite.
  52. 0
    11 March 2014 23: 23
    Mentor SU Today, 19:37
    Yeah, Gaidar's advisor... The best recommendation for immediate hanging. I support. Regarding the dollar and this writing - http://xpressa.ru/translates/3559-pochemu-vremya-dollara-ssha-kak-mirovoy-rezerv

    noy-valuy-podhodit-k-koncu.html In my opinion there is a connection.
  53. Mountain diver
    0
    11 March 2014 23: 43
    [quote=Patriot.ru.]If it’s true about China. The West is here.[/quotMSA owes China 1 trillion. dollars
  54. 0
    12 March 2014 00: 15
    If even the p.i.n.d.o.s.o.v.s.k.i.e “experts” do not know the REAL state of affairs in both Crimea and Russia, then what can we talk about. There is no need to listen to them, but to defend YOUR people and YOUR Russia... The West, as always, will screw up. The biggest danger is Bandera's people... Eh, Putin slept through the REAL opportunity to solve everything quickly and with relatively little bloodshed. Now what the drunkard Yeltsin gave away to a drunk just like that (Ah... take it) will have to be won back with blood.
  55. 0
    12 March 2014 01: 51
    He is Sax, an envoy in our opinion. He didn't understand a damn thing. But deftly, together with Gaidar, he helped the states scold the deposed USSR. But our memory has not faded.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/794/dcrd388.jpg
  56. ledyvasilisa
    0
    12 March 2014 06: 41
    This gentleman is not the one to tell Russia how to defend its interests. Get out, to your wretched homeland!
  57. philip
    0
    12 March 2014 07: 11
    The United States and other Western powers responded with threats of sanctions and other countermeasures against Russia. Clearly exaggerated statements from both sides - in the West about returning to the Cold War, in Russia about the seizure of power in Kiev by the Nazis - continue to fuel the crisis.
    There can only be one way to resolve the crisis. Elimination of the illegitimate fascist regime. Diplomacy will not help here; there is no one to engage in diplomacy with because of double standards.
  58. spy master
    0
    12 March 2014 10: 22
    Quote: jjj
    We have passed the science of this master in practice. We know everything. And no matter how sophisticated he is, there is a screw for the tricky part

    So I thought that someone, and listening to such a person is just criticism...zm.
    And then, to be honest, it already infuriates me that in every 3 articles you can hear phrases like “Russia and Ukraine should be tried on” or “The EU and the USA can become a mediator in negotiations between Russia and Ukraine”... it feels like a military coup in general there wasn’t, but a conflict between Russia and Ukraine just appeared, as if this was the reason for everything that was happening!!! Yes, we have no complaints about Ukraine at all - we are simply protecting our fellow citizens!!!
    It seems to me that the West wants to present itself as a kind of peacemaker, just like Russia ended up in Syria, only in Syria Russia truly turned out to be a peacemaker, and now the Western bastards only want to show themselves as such.
  59. oskotr
    0
    12 March 2014 12: 35
    They will not agree to direct aggression from the West, they are not fools. Are they proposing to return to the zero option? Yanukovych in Kyiv, Crimea - Ukraine? We give up Crimea and pay off Ukraine's debts. Indeed, he is a global strategist. They bit us, we still snap back. Lights out for now. Strategically, Putin has ruined the Russian economy and maniacally continues to do so; he has destroyed the army and navy. And the worst thing now for the West is to cause a sharp crisis in our country through an economic blockade, a local military conflict, as a result of which our power may change. The path with its oligarchy and liberal camarilla will not be removed under their leadership. However, the magic of numbers is also present, 1914 - 2014, 1917 - 2017. And nationally oriented forces will come to govern Russia.

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