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Inflation - what will it be in April?

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While some citizens continue to escalate anti-Russian hysteria, we will continue to analyze the economic situation in Ukraine.


Following the deterioration of the credit rating of Standard & Poor's to the pre-default value of "CCC", which almost automatically leads to higher loan rates, investment bank JP Morgan worsened its forecast for Ukraine. Instead of the previously expected growth of 0,5%, they now forecast a 3,2% decline in the economy.

And this is understandable: three-month protests, problems in the state budget, rising crime (with the previous intentional discrediting of law enforcement agencies), the practical cessation of the judicial system - all this does not add optimism to analysts.

And, as I understand it, this forecast will be realistic only under the condition that there will be no further destabilizing factors, such as “small victorious reconquests of the Crimea”. Because if even local hostilities begin, the economy will fall by at least 15% (based on the analysis of similar events in other countries).

If the interim government unleashes full-scale hostilities, it will simply be impossible to predict the depth of the fall.

As for the Crimea, which some analysts are now trying to intimidate by the fact that after it is disconnected, it will become very bad. Will not. Firstly, all the money from multi-billion dollar contracts with China, which previously went to Kiev, will now go directly to the government of Crimea. Secondly, Russia is going to invest in the development of the infrastructure of the Crimea about five billion dollars. This is still around 2,5 for thousands of dollars per resident.

There is a separate aspect that no one articulates - if the Crimea withdraws from Ukraine (joins the Russian Federation or becomes an independent state), then due to the rupture of continuity, imposing a portion of Ukrainian debts on it will not work. To date, the total external debt of Ukraine is approximately equal to $ 140 billion, which in terms of per capita is $ 3100. If the population of Ukraine becomes less on 2 million, then it will already be $ 3250 per person (including pensioners and babies, that is, in fact, even more).

If the crowded southeastern regions join the Crimea, the debt burden on the rest will generally increase significantly. Therefore, it becomes clear panic desire of some citizens to "not let go."

In general, this is similar to the masochistic behavior of a jealous wife who cannot stand her husband, suspects him of treason and considers him a loser, but at the same time continues to keep him out of his last strength, because he has a good salary and the idea that he will , driving her crazy. But jealousy is not love, and psychologists say that a normal life together with jealous men is impossible.

Let us return to the economy (although it is difficult to separate it from politics). As for the mythical sanctions that threaten Russia - this is a fiction. Not only has the Russian Federation already refused European and American meat (in fact, it was only a hint of a possible “return”), they have American trezheris and Eurobonds on the order of $ 350 billion. If they start selling them, that will be with the US and EU economies? That's right, nothing good. Therefore, there will be no real sanctions, only conversations.

Returning to Ukraine, we see that in the structure of Ukrainian debt about 30% are short-term debts (the interest on which is higher, and which must be given very soon).

Moreover, the trade deficit of approximately $ 2 billion a month has not been canceled. How long will Ukraine's meager foreign exchange reserves last with such a scenario? And how many there were promised to allocate the United States (or rather, have not even promised yet, but were going to consider the possibility of separation)? Billion? That's enough for two whole weeks! Look, do not spend everything at once.

And a little microeconomics. Reports record the decline in retail sales in Ukraine in the past two months, on average by 20%. The purchasing power of the population falls (including due to jumps in the dollar), in conditions of instability people are trying to save "for a rainy day."
At the same time, the rental price for premises is growing (since more than half of the lease agreements in the country are denominated in dollars). Therefore, retailers are forced to either close or raise prices. Overall, retail prices rose over the month by 10-15%. There is a classic promotion of the inflation spiral.

If we multiply the drop in sales by the rise in prices, then it turns out that in the mass of commodities the consumption in two months fell by 30%. This is very significant.
Energy. Since April, gas prices will rise by about 25%. Fuel at nuclear power plants, according to the last report, also remained until the end of April. According to the Czech president, if Ukraine signs an association agreement with the EU, then electricity prices will also increase by about 25%.

And in order to fulfill the requirements of the IMF, it is necessary to double the cost of most utilities. Under Yanukovych, for us, 80% of the population did not live, but survived, and if all the “savings measures” prescribed by the IMF are implemented, then this can be safely called the “retirement genocide”.

But who cares? The whole "svidomaya" part of Ukraine is concerned only with the "get out view of Moscow" and craves war. “Glory to the Nation! Death to pensioners! ”Yes?
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  1. GreatRussia
    GreatRussia 10 March 2014 16: 45
    +28
    As for the Crimea, which some analysts are trying to intimidate now that after disconnecting it will become very bad. Will not.

    And here is the confirmation:

    Gas production at the Odessa gas field can fully provide the Crimean Peninsula with blue fuel.

    In the next three years, drilling will allow us to increase offshore gas production 3 times from 1 to 3 billion / year m3.

    As you know, Crimea consumes about 2 billion / year m3.
    2 modern drilling rigs Petr Godovanets and Independence, built by Keppel FELS, a Singapore company, will help Ukraine implement such gas plans.
    Proved reserves of the Odessa deposit 21 billion m3.
    Once these facilities cost $ 400 million each, but now Ukraine can boast of the most advanced equipment that will allow to show significant results in gas production.

    Considering that the Ukrainian Black Sea shelf is only 4% explored, the prospects for production are pretty good.
    Provided that new fields are discovered, gas production on the shelf can be brought up to 5-8 billion / year m3.


    And these are already tangible volumes throughout the economy.
    Offshore projects will provide an opportunity to reduce gas purchases in Russia by 10-15%.
    Although the cost of extraction of blue fuel on the shelf by Neftegaz has not been disclosed, it can be judged on the basis of the purchase price of gas by the parent company from the subsidiary Chernomorneftegazatozhe 440, like Russian gas, only in hryvnias.

    http://neftegaz.ru/news/view/114486
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 10 March 2014 16: 51
      +32
      “Glory to the Nation!” Death to pensioners! ”

      As for me "Heroic shrouds" sounds better.
      1. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 10 March 2014 17: 31
        +24
        Quote: SHILO
        “Glory to the Nation!” Death to pensioners! ”

        As for me, "Hero of the Savannah" sounds better.

        Sevastopol:





    2. baltika-18
      baltika-18 10 March 2014 16: 59
      +17
      Quote: GreatRussia
      Gas production

      Gas is gas. Okay. The article mentions Chinese contracts for the Crimea. This is the construction of the port and the lease of 160 thousand hectares of land, all this is planned to be done by the Xinjiang Industrial Corps (this is part of the PLA). If Crimea is part of Russia, it turns out on the territory Russian Chinese enclave and solid territories for rent.
      1. Arkan
        Arkan 10 March 2014 17: 07
        +8
        There will be no grain, why do the Chinese need a port?
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 10 March 2014 17: 24
          +13
          Quote: Arkan
          There will be no grain, why do the Chinese need a port?

          That’s the essence of the matter. By the way, China has a restrained position on the situation in Ukraine. Crimea is not profitable for it in Russia, because the question arises of leasing land. And this is not only in Crimea, but also 3 million hectares in neighboring areas, if and they will be part of Russia, suppose (this is the southeast of Ukraine). Here you have to agree already with ours, and this is a completely different grain lobby in the country, and whether such cooperation will be beneficial to Russia is another question.
          That is most likely why China insists on a diplomatic and political settlement, and since a compromise is hardly possible with the current Kiev authorities, it turns out that China will play against it, but maybe for, but on certain conditions that it will set.
          China benefits from a united Ukraine, whatever one may say.
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          2. Arkan
            Arkan 10 March 2014 20: 01
            +1
            Considering those who brewed all this mess in Ukraine, the position of China regarding the integrity of this territory does not seem clear to me.
            1. Mature naturalist
              Mature naturalist 10 March 2014 23: 40
              +19
              Quote: Arkan
              China position
              unequivocal :)
          3. alicante11
            alicante11 11 March 2014 13: 19
            0
            That is the crux of the matter. By the way, China is taking a restrained position on the situation in Ukraine. Crimea is not profitable for it in Russia, because the question is about leasing land.


            Why is he getting up? Nothing is getting up. At our poultry farm, the Chinese are cultivating entire plantations in the bird manure repository. And almost half of the vegetables that we sell as Chinese are grown locally in season. Why can't we allow them to do this in Crimea, especially since the issue has already been resolved?
        2. platitsyn70
          platitsyn70 10 March 2014 18: 08
          -4
          Crimeans will buy grain from Ukraine and sell China
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 10 March 2014 18: 31
            +8
            Quote: platitsyn70
            Crimeans will buy grain from Ukraine and sell China

            China itself was going to produce grain for itself in Ukraine, it was not going to buy anything. Otherwise, why would it need these projects.
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            2. siberalt
              siberalt 10 March 2014 19: 23
              +7
              Then why is China going to sue Ukraine for 3 lard of American money? The scheme of cutting grain for sale to China broke. External debts of Ukraine will only increase, while internal ones are generally scary to predict. So that the second wave of popular anger is inevitable. And it will begin no later than May 25 from the day of the election.
            3. soldier:
              soldier: 10 March 2014 23: 12
              0
              The Chinese knew where they invested and knew what to return who. wassat
            4. atalef
              atalef 11 March 2014 12: 26
              0
              Article a set of nonsense written by a person infinitely far from the economy, a set of stamps
              A separate aspect that no one articulates -
              There is a separate aspect that no one articulates - if the Crimea withdraws from Ukraine (joins the Russian Federation or becomes an independent state), then due to the rupture of continuity, imposing a portion of Ukrainian debts on it will not work. To date, the total external debt of Ukraine is approximately equal to $ 140 billion, which in terms of per capita is $ 3100. If the population of Ukraine becomes less on 2 million, then it will already be $ 3250 per person (including pensioners and babies, that is, in fact, even more).

              so for comparison
              Russia occupies the first position in the ranking, with external debts of $ 691,15 billion. The ratio of external debt to the country's GDP at the beginning of 2013 amounted to a small 34% of GDP, which is one of the best indicators in the CIS. The external debt of Russia in the first quarter of 2013 increased by 23%, compared with the first quarter of 2012, and amounted to approximately $ 4,8 thousand per Russian.

              About the money of China laughing
              China has leased land from Ukraine for 99 years and will build its own port in the Crimea.
              But according to the statement of the head of Crimea, all land resources will be reregistered according to Russian law (and it is clear after the accession of Crimea to Russia) that the following will happen - according to Russian law, leasing of land by other states is prohibited, as well as the construction of private ports. Having joined the Crimea, Russia will automatically have to terminate the deal (which does not correspond to the RF countries) with the return of money and payment of compensations, or does anyone doubt this?
              As for the mythical sanctions that threaten Russia, this is a fiction. Not only that, the Russian Federation has already abandoned European and American meat (in fact, it was just a hint of a possible “return”), they have concentrated American “treasuries” and Eurobonds of about $ 350 billion. If they start selling them, what will happen with the US and EU economies? Right, nothing good. Therefore, there will be no real sanctions, there will only be talk

              Sanctions will, more precisely, have already begun - only the bottom of the news about them dropped the exchange by 10%, and the ruble continues to fall. Of course you listen to RTR - great, but they say on Western channels that the second package of sanctions is already being approved at preliminary consultations and on 23 - it will be approved at a meeting of European countries. And the approach to meat - such a stupid one - the restriction both in the purchase of gas and in the export of technology and machinery to the Russian Federation - will hit an order of magnitude stronger.
              Somehow everyone forgot that in connection with the recent falls on the exchange, the central bank raised the refinancing rate by 1.5% - what does this mean? that during a period of stagnation in the economy, an increase in the discount rate is a political decision that, on the one hand, will artificially keep the ruble from a steep peak, and on the other hand, it will further spur stagnation. because loans will become much more expensive.
              1. bootlegger
                bootlegger 11 March 2014 13: 10
                0
                How is it not observed a drop in the exchange by 10% today?
                The situation there is generally self-regulating. Investors get out of securities and buy a dollar, and rubles received for the currency go straight to the MICEX to buy assets. The West will get its green and other papers back, and we will produce.
                Germany will take and refuse gas from the Russian Federation like that? And who will compensate it?
                Export of cars is also possible from China. And technology was not sold to us anyway.
              2. alicante11
                alicante11 11 March 2014 13: 30
                0
                Article a set of nonsense written by a person infinitely far from the economy, a set of stamps


                Commentary - a set of delirium. You'd better compare not with Russia, but with the USA. Moreover, 70 percent of GDP is a non-producing game on the stock exchange. At least we have "resources", all are material.

                But according to the statement of the head of Crimea, all land resources will be reregistered according to Russian law (and it is clear after the accession of Crimea to Russia) that the following will happen - according to Russian law, leasing of land by other states is prohibited, as well as the construction of private ports. Having joined the Crimea, Russia will automatically have to terminate the deal (which does not correspond to the RF countries) with the return of money and payment of compensations, or does anyone doubt this?


                They will make a free economic zone and all problems will be resolved.

                Sanctions will, more precisely, have already begun - only the bottom of the news of them dropped the exchange by 10%


                Yeah, and 30% of the shares in overseas idiots at the same time bought. By the way, the amers collapse was also on the stock exchange the next day, when our quotes went up.

                and the ruble continues to fall


                So he has been falling for a year. So what do sanctions have to do with it?

                Somehow everyone forgot that in connection with the recent falls on the exchange, the central bank raised the refinancing rate by 1.5% - what does this mean? that during a period of stagnation in the economy, an increase in the discount rate is a political decision that, on the one hand, will artificially keep the ruble from a steep peak, and on the other hand, it will further spur stagnation. because loans will become much more expensive.


                Yes, we remember, we remember. Only now I'm afraid that an ordinary person is neither hot nor cold from all this turbidity. And these loans are already tired. There will be fewer loans, fewer people will buy, a decrease in demand reduces prices. The population will be credited less, and the industry will have more credits. True, all these "laws of the market" do not work for us anyway. And prices only have an upward trend, regardless of the refinancing rate. But what does Ukraine have to do with it?
        3. AVV
          AVV 11 March 2014 15: 20
          0
          Quote: Arkan
          There will be no grain, why do the Chinese need a port?

          In order to populate the open spaces, it’s not because you cannot force Bender to work, they have adapted to live on Western grants, and the Chinese will plow and send what they have earned to China !!!
          1. AVV
            AVV 11 March 2014 16: 00
            0
            Quote: AVV
            In order to populate the open spaces, it’s not because you cannot force Bender to work, they have adapted to live on Western grants, and the Chinese will plow and send what they have earned to China !!!

            But the Crimean authorities will not allow this, since China has agreed with Ukraine, and it will try to work with Russia, which will act in its own interests and the interests of Crimea, and what China will lose, well, this is business and nothing more !!!
      2. GreatRussia
        GreatRussia 10 March 2014 17: 17
        +2
        Quote: baltika-18
        Gas is gas. Okay. The article mentions Chinese contracts for the Crimea. This is the construction of the port and the lease of 160 thousand hectares of land, all this is planned to be done by the Xinjiang Industrial Corps (this is part of the PLA). If Crimea is part of Russia, it turns out on the territory Russian Chinese enclave and solid territories for rent.

        But not Singaporean?
        And only for the construction of "drilling"?
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 10 March 2014 17: 49
          +5
          Quote: GreatRussia
          But not Singaporean?

          There are no Chinese. The most expensive contracts are 99 million hectares for 3 years in the Dnepropetrovsk and Kherson regions, 160 thousand hectares in the Crimea, a port in the Crimea, and it was planned to increase the amount of leased land to 17 million hectares.
          All of this may collapse.
          1. Shaki's memory
            Shaki's memory 11 March 2014 04: 01
            +2
            repeat it’s so powerful to sell land to China ... it’s a direct sale .. I don’t understand, we are the invaders and all that .. But so to sell our own best land .. fuck .. and don’t need Lalya .. that the lease is for 99 years .. through one hundred years on these lands will be 100 million. Chinese and you can’t drive them away ..
          2. atalef
            atalef 11 March 2014 12: 29
            0
            Quote: baltika-18
            Crimea, and it was planned to bring the amount of leased land to 17 million hectares. All this could collapse.

            Well, it can’t, but it will collapse. it contradicts the Russian legislation (land lease by a foreign state authority for 99 years) and who will pay all the penalties according to yours?
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 11 March 2014 13: 31
              0
              Don’t worry, don’t collapse. Get out. One of the options I already wrote above. Well, you yourself know that in Russia the necessary laws are quickly adopted. So the ally is respected, in spite of the arrogant neighbor.
    3. a52333
      a52333 10 March 2014 17: 10
      +16
      Situevina is this: those who have not separated, that and debts. (by analogy, who didn’t hide, I’m not to blame)
      1. cumastra1
        cumastra1 10 March 2014 18: 00
        +10
        Unfortunately, the level of activity of the Russian population in Ukraine is low. There is no weapon, no determination, no leader. They surrendered their governor with ease. They easily let the fascists into their city. They cannot take control of power structures. Remember Chechnya - they were seizing warehouses with weapons - no one squealed, look to the west of Ukraine - they seized an arsenal, armed a cow. Now they will go hang Russian-speaking in the east. It's a shame, a shame, okay ... Who is to blame? those themselves who will be hanged and turned into slaves. Instead of singing patriotic songs, you had to do something. And now it's probably too late.
    4. jjj
      jjj 10 March 2014 18: 08
      +7
      To possible questions: will Russia be able to take the territory of Crimea on its balance sheet has already been answered. Even in the worst case, even the full support of Crimea will have little effect on the Russian budget. Moreover, our budget became surplus after the dollar rose to 35 rubles
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 10 March 2014 19: 56
        +1
        Quote: jjj
        . Even in the worst case, even the full support of Crimea will have little effect on the Russian budget.

        I would not say so. Only pensions and benefits will amount to about 5 billion rubles a month. This is not counting salaries in the public sector. Not counting the content of social infrastructure, medicine. The budget is already made up and adopted, and the budget is already scarce.
        1. jjj
          jjj 10 March 2014 23: 21
          +3
          Quote: baltika-18
          Only pensions and benefits will amount to about 5 billion rubles per month.

          Estimated budget of Crimea should be 3 billion dollars a year. Before the mess under Yanukovych, if I’m not mistaken, but such a figure was voiced, the budget was approximately 0,5 billion. Three billion dollars a year, our budget transfers quite calmly.
          The thing is another. How to calculate Ukrainian pensions in Russian. Apparently a special decree or law will be required. It is not so simple with state employees either. They will need to be certified. The Armed Forces and the police also can’t take everyone in a row. So, a special target program for the development of Crimea will be required. And this is about five or seven years, otherwise it's all ten
        2. Magadan
          Magadan 11 March 2014 01: 16
          +2
          This money is not from the budget but from American "securities". A little less dough will be invested in the states, that's all the arithmetic
        3. alicante11
          alicante11 11 March 2014 13: 32
          0
          Well, the income will also come from Crimea. Plus, you will not have to pay for basing the Black Sea Fleet.
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      3. atalef
        atalef 11 March 2014 12: 36
        0
        Quote: jjj
        To possible questions: will Russia be able to take the territory of Crimea on its balance sheet has already been answered. Even in the worst case, even the full support of Crimea will have little effect on the Russian budget. Moreover, our budget became surplus after the dollar rose to 35 rubles

        And if it drops to 40? Just going to swim in the money? You probably forgot about the state-owned enterprises that were loaned to the most impossible, which should return loans in dollars and euros, and which would have to buy these dollars for rubles --- consequently, a decrease in income of already ineffective state corporations, an increase in debts, an increase in foreign capital ( of them, due to a decrease in income - which is already observed) - a drop in their price on the exchange, due to over-lending, the requirement of creditors to make additional pledges and, as a result, the sale of assets at bargain prices or state assistance from the budget (otherwise bankruptcy) - do not hope, never fall on the stock exchange and fall nat. currency did not lead to wealth and prosperity of the population.
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 11 March 2014 13: 35
          0
          You probably forgot about the state-owned enterprises that were loaned to the most impossible, which should return loans in dollars and euros, and which should buy these dollars for rubles


          So the sanctions are the same, and we are in response to our sanctions.
          "NOW THE MANIFESTO HAS BEEN RELEASED TO WHO TO WHOM IS THE CROSS!" (c) Republic of SHKID ". so we have experience. We will answer, it will not seem a little.
    5. Setrac
      Setrac 10 March 2014 21: 25
      +1
      Quote: GreatRussia
      Considering that the Ukrainian Black Sea shelf is only 4% explored, the prospects for production are pretty good.

      Soon the Ukrainian Black Sea shelf will become the Maloros Black Sea shelf.
    6. anip
      anip 11 March 2014 06: 14
      0
      Quote: GreatRussia
      And here is the confirmation:

      Gas production at the Odessa gas field can fully provide the Crimean Peninsula with blue fuel.


      How is this deposit a confirmation that Crimea will not become ill?
      1. Odessa is not located in Crimea, therefore, if Crimea becomes part of the Russian Federation, Odessa will remain in Ukraine.
      2. From the Odessa deposit to Odessa 130 km, to the Black Sea (Crimea) 150 km, which means that Ukraine will have the right to develop the Odessa deposit, and no less right than Russia. In the event of attempts by the Russian Federation to unilateral gas production, Ukraine may well diplomatically try to block these measures, and, in light of the current objective situation around and inside Russia, Ukraine is thought to do so successfully. (You know, here it must be taken into account that the Russian Federation today is far from the USSR, neither in power, nor in economy, nor in influence in the world)
      ...
      No, if Crimea doesn’t feel bad, it’s not from this gas field, but from this: Russia promised Crimea 40 billion rubles (http://www.interfax.ru/russia/363622). Well, we look forward to a further increase in prices for everything.
  2. rasputin17
    rasputin17 10 March 2014 16: 45
    +5
    That’s all nonsense !! Inflation will remain at the same level, and the corridor of fluctuations in the foreign exchange market will not exceed 3%! Events in the world develop according to the planned scenario !! The only thing that can bring down all markets now is the real military operations of the superpowers, and as we see them, they are shifting more and more into the information space! And a lot of other precedents that will keep the market in existing positions. The collapse of it at the moment is disadvantageous to absolutely no one.
    1. Kasym
      Kasym 10 March 2014 18: 18
      +20
      The point is that the new authorities will have to print "empty" hryvnias in order to somehow close the holes in the budget. And in order to receive Western aid (11 billion from Europe within 6 years, I don't remember exactly and 1 billion from the United States), you need to go through a bunch of agreements (as a rule, they put forward various political and economic requirements such as an increase in energy prices, a decrease in social benefits, etc. etc.). And as a rule, they will give in a very dosage, only so that the legs do not stretch. That's where inflation comes from. Since the summer, the depreciation of the hryvnia has already reached from 25% (at the official rate) to 50% (at the black market rate). So all the tests of the hryvnia are still ahead.
      And more interesting information. Nazarbayev, Putin and Lukashenko recently met with Moscow. Then the NAS went to Beijing. Today he again arrived in Moscow. An interesting intensity of its movements. Don’t you find, colleagues? hi
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 10 March 2014 19: 02
        +13
        Well, people are hanging out, busy with business. laughing
        But oh, that China-izkitaya-so not in Europe. Here in Europe - it would be strange. And so ...

        ... Putin alone is hell ...
        Means, some next trick ahead.
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 11 March 2014 02: 23
          +1
          Quote: Banshee
          ... Putin alone is hell ...

          What would crack there is the Foreign Ministry and Zhirinovsky And Putin gives a brief summary as a guide to action soldier laughing
      2. techmesh
        techmesh 10 March 2014 19: 10
        +6
        And in order to get Western aid (11 billion from Europe over 6 years, I don’t remember exactly 1 billion from the USA) you need to go through a bunch of approvals


        It seems to me that they will not be given money. The West will only promise if the banderlogs bark at Russia right up to the military conflict.
      3. Kasym
        Kasym 10 March 2014 19: 25
        +2
        I don’t understand something: in the morning there was infa. that on March 10-11, at the invitation of the Russian Federation, Nazarbayev should come to Moscow (20 years since his speech at Moscow State University about the integration of the countries of the former USSR). And now they write that he had telephone conversations with Merkel and Putin. request
        Well, okay, we'll see.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 10 March 2014 20: 23
          -2
          Quote: Kasym
          . And now they write that he had telephone conversations with Merkel and Putin.

          You rightly noticed that the media are covering everything in a strange way. Take, for example, a Merkel-Putin telephone conversation, we got information that there are some positive shifts. Western publications cite the words of Merkel’s spokeswoman that there’s nothing at all achieved and Germany does not recognize the referendum in Crimea. Who to believe in this matter?
          Answer: And hell knows. As you say, "we'll see."
          1. jjj
            jjj 10 March 2014 23: 25
            0
            Quote: baltika-18
            As you say "we will see

            At first glance, it is noticeable that they distanced themselves from Putin on the Ukrainian issue. Type of moral support, but within the framework of international law. And what is really there we will find out after
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      5. siberalt
        siberalt 10 March 2014 19: 35
        +6
        Yes, Ukraine can not print empty hryvnia. Their financial system is made for tracing paper, as in Russia. Otherwise, they will begin to bring down the financial system of their master. Who will allow them? In Ukraine, the oligarchs really rule and their task is to export capital to the same owner.
      6. Shick
        Shick 10 March 2014 21: 21
        -1
        black market rate? what's this?
      7. Setrac
        Setrac 10 March 2014 21: 45
        +1
        Quote: Kasym
        Nazarbayev, Putin and Lukashenko recently met with Moscow.

        The first three members of the Customs Union are on ice.
      8. Magadan
        Magadan 11 March 2014 01: 17
        +1
        Nazarbayev is a wise politician and not anti-Russian in any way. I think all this is welcome
    2. atalef
      atalef 11 March 2014 12: 40
      0
      Quote: rasputin17
      That’s all nonsense !! Inflation will remain at the same level, and the corridor of fluctuations in the foreign exchange market will not exceed 3%!

      Joker You are my friend, or blind - what 3%, with a refinancing rate of 7% and an officially stagnating economy.
      You either do not understand anything in the economy or some kind of rampant optimist laughing
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 11 March 2014 13: 44
        0
        No, it's just that we were “taught” this “economy” for 20 years, and for this “reading” they were robbed to the skin. But they just cannot explain in any way what economic reasons explain the fall in the ruble exchange rate due to the "invasion" of Crimea. And how can you consume 70% of the world's resources, producing 30% of them. And how can you have a national debt of 17 trillion, which, in principle, cannot be returned, but at the same time be considered a reliable borrower.
        Enough of pseudo-economic tales.
        1. atalef
          atalef 11 March 2014 14: 11
          0
          Quote: alicante11
          And how can you consume 70% of the world's resources, producing them 30%.

          The answer is extremely simple. high-tech equipment made from pure raw materials - is hundreds or thousands of times more expensive than the raw materials. As an example, a microcircuit contains milligrams of gold and other valuable metals, plastic in general, a penny — like taking a kilo of gold (as a stupid example), you can produce millions of microcircuits at a price thousands of times more expensive than a kilo of the same gold. and so in everything, so consuming 70% of the imported resources and producing 30% of their own, you can have a GDP of 17 trillion bucks.
          Quote: alicante11
          And how can one have a public debt of 17 trillion, which in principle cannot be repaid

          17 trillion bucks is America's annual GDP - total annual. In Europe, they cannot even dream of such numbers. The debt of Spain, Greece, Italy is 5-6 annual GDP, France - 3ВВП, Germany 1.05 GDP - therefore, the figure of 17 trillion is huge, but America’s GDP is no less. Everything in percent to its capabilities. Someone bucks - money, and someone a million - dust
          Quote: alicante11
          Enough of pseudo-economic tales.

          So I say, read at least the elementary fundamentals of the economy.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 11 March 2014 16: 05
            0
            The answer is extremely simple. high-tech equipment made from pure raw materials - is hundreds or thousands of times more expensive than the raw materials. As an example, a microcircuit contains milligrams of gold and other valuable metals, plastic in general, a penny — like taking a kilo of gold (as a stupid example), you can produce millions of microcircuits at a price thousands of times more expensive than a kilo of the same gold. and so in everything, so consuming 70% of the imported resources and producing 30% of their own, you can have a GDP of 17 trillion bucks.


            Don't whistle. This means that about 70% of the GDP of the USA (in money, if it is not clear) falls on non-production income. So all the bells and whistles of "amerskoy production" you are talking about - are included in this number. It also includes dividends from corporations that have production in China.

            17 trillion bucks is America's annual GDP - total annual.


            As already mentioned, America’s GDP is a soap bubble. So the debt of the USA is 100% of the soap bubble. BUT debt itself is not a soap bubble. And the money that needs to be given. At what, it’s somehow lilac to me, how many percent of GDP is a long sash. Because GDP is the sum of all earned. And this amount, by no means, can be spent on repaying debts. So even if the Americans let the entire revenue side of their budget cover their debts, they will be doing it for more than one year. And, given that this is not real, then it’s impossible to give these long ones in principle.

            In Europe, they cannot even dream of such numbers. The debt of Spain, Greece, Italy is 5-6 annual GDP, France - 3ВВП, Germany 1.05 GDP - therefore, the figure of 17 trillion is huge, but America’s GDP is no less. Everything in percent to its capabilities. Someone bucks - money, and someone a million - dust


            Well, well, how do these economies live? With such debts? From an economic point of view. If the USA is still very good :).

            So I say, read at least the elementary fundamentals of the economy.


            Read, sir. And even studied by personal experience. Nichrome do not work, sir. So do not rinse the brain with theories.
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            2. atalef
              atalef 11 March 2014 16: 29
              0
              Quote: alicante11
              Don’t whistle. This means that about 70% of the US GDP (in money, if not clear) is accounted for by non-productive income.

              Non-production - which ones?
              Quote: alicante11
              As already mentioned, America’s GDP is a soap bubble

              Who says? By you? Laughed
              Quote: alicante11
              So the debt of the USA is 100% of the soap bubble. BUT debt itself is not a soap bubble

              But in Germany - as an example? Or Italy?
              Keep believing in your tales
              The total debt per capita in Russia is 2 times greater than in Ukraine - how about this?
              Quote: alicante11
              Well, well, how do these economies live? With such debts? From an economic point of view. If the USA is still very good :).

              It is much better than in Russia, GDP is growing, the US has officially emerged from stagnation, the strengthening of the dollar speaks for itself
              On Monday, March 10, Barack Obama announced that in 2015 the US economy will double its growth. If in 2013 it amounted to only 1,7%, and in 2014 - 3,1%, then in 2015 it is expected to grow by 3,4%.

              Speaking in the US Congress with an annual address on economic topics, US President Barack Obama noted a number of signs indicating improved economic performance.

              In particular, the unemployment rate fell to its lowest level in five years, the budget deficit has been halved, the real estate market is reviving, exports are increasing, and manufacturers are creating more jobs for the first time since the 1990s.

              According to Obama, the US economy will strengthen its position in the next two years, because the main obstacles to economic growth have been removed. The unemployment rate will drop in 2014 to an acceptable 6,9%, compared with a peak of 10% in 2009. For the past five years, it has been high, and in January 2014 it amounted to only 6,6%.

              Quote: alicante11
              So even if the Americans let the entire revenue side of their budget to cover debts, they will do it for more than one year. And, given that this is not real, then you can’t give away these long ones in principle

              In Russia, 613 billion debts, with GDP 1.7 trillion. - 30% of GDP - is it possible to repay these debts?
              By the way, it was like in Russia last year. and in the USA in the past, I would say that they live better in the USA, but there’s nothing even to compare with Europe
              Quote: alicante11
              Read, sir. And even studied by personal experience

              Apparently nichrome did not understand, with


              Quote: alicante11
              So do not rinse the brain with theories.

              Well, in practice, at least go to Europe and compare. laughing
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  3. Arkan
    Arkan 10 March 2014 16: 46
    +4
    For that fought for it and ran. But in Europe (s).
    1. SHOCK.
      SHOCK. 10 March 2014 20: 05
      +1
      . But in Europe (s).

      Better to say in the European ass.
  4. bubalik
    bubalik 10 March 2014 16: 46
    +19
    Therefore, it becomes clear panic desire of some citizens to "not let go."


    and something else, the truth is not for you to decide ,,,

    The mystery of the secret export of several tons of valuable cargo in collection vehicles under the security of the Security Service of Ukraine from the Kiev Borispol airport at 2 in the morning of 7 in March was unraveled without customs inspection. According to a competent source, valuables were exported from several state-owned warehouses of Ukraine on several trucks that night, the total value of which, according to Kuchma (2003 year), is about 27 billion dollars. These are ancient gold items, paintings, unique historical artifacts. Back in the Yushchenko period, US intelligence agencies had already made an attempt to export these values, the pearl of which are “Scythian treasures”. The current Kiev authorities voluntarily transferred them to their American patrons as collateral for a loan to finance an already completed coup d'etat and an upcoming military provocation against Russia. Regardless of the outcome of the latter, the Americans and their Kiev puppets insured possible damage at the expense of the people of Ukraine ....


    http://anna-news.info/node/13972
    1. katastrofa
      katastrofa 10 March 2014 17: 06
      +20
      If this is true, then they all need to count !!! am to sell his story, generally does not climb into any gate!
      1. Ivan.
        Ivan. 10 March 2014 17: 54
        +9
        Quote: katastrofa
        If this is true, then they all need to count !!! am to sell his story, generally does not climb into any gate!

        They can’t avoid this in any way, something else is important here, so that every citizen of Ukraine knows the whole world about it. Moreover, it is clear that it was not taken out as collateral, but forever, even if not all the money was transferred, it is well known that there is no stolen gold from the Naglosaks. I'm afraid the inventory will be destroyed and it will be impossible to prove the fact of the export of specific things.
      2. serge siberian
        serge siberian 10 March 2014 19: 03
        +3
        and they refute it !!! the history of a country that is directly connected with Russia and Belarus.
    2. Siberian19
      Siberian19 10 March 2014 17: 40
      +3
      what a horror!
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 10 March 2014 17: 53
        +10
        "Revolutionary Era robbed their own country! the question arises:-"Is Ukraine its own for the MayDowns ???" These "patriots" should be put against the wall, and not on leading positions in the government!
        How can this information be conveyed to that part of the people of Ukraine, who went for these PO / D / O / nkami?
        1. cumastra1
          cumastra1 10 March 2014 18: 08
          +4
          Every nation has the government that it deserves. - Someone from the great said who - I don’t know, so the claims are against him. Apparently Ukrainians have not grown to a human appearance, and their names are Sharikov. And infected with rabies. There are two ways out - to heal or to shoot. Rabies is not treated. We must shoot this gang.
          1. serge siberian
            serge siberian 10 March 2014 19: 11
            +2
            the leader’s name doesn’t even seem to be Ukrainian, Hungarian. I’m not a connoisseur, but it seems to me that she is from Austro-Hungarian. there was such an empire a hundred years ago. And history knows the consequences.
        2. cumastra1
          cumastra1 10 March 2014 18: 08
          0
          Every nation has the government that it deserves. - Someone from the great said who - I don’t know, so the claims are against him. Apparently Ukrainians have not grown to a human appearance, and their names are Sharikov. And infected with rabies. There are two ways out - to heal or to shoot. Rabies is not treated. We must shoot this gang.
          1. gfs84
            gfs84 10 March 2014 18: 34
            +3
            Every nation has the government that it deserves. - Someone from the great said who - I don’t know, so the claims are against him.


            Joseph de Mestre, envoy of the Sardinian kingdom at the Russian court.
          2. Revolver
            Revolver 10 March 2014 18: 37
            +3
            Quote: cumastra1
            Every nation has the government it deserves

            A bit wrong - "every nation deserves the government it has." And in relation to today's Ukraine, this phrase rather looks "the government that has it". Unfortunately...
        3. a52333
          a52333 10 March 2014 19: 37
          +2
          Quote: ia-ai00
          - "Is Ukraine its own for the MayDowns ???"

          It must be viewed from two angles:
          a) on the surface - 30 silver chips, sell everything and grass do not grow
          b) in fact, patriots, and relying on ANY shoulder at that moment, lead the country to a brighter future.
          c) the goal is to kill her, even if her homeland dies
          in option B there are two questions at once:
          1. if you love Ukraine so much, why are the first steps not only destructive but suicidal: a law that cuts the country in half, and not a recovery of the economy, etc.
          then from item 1 the consequence is government = stupid people.
          c) government = stupid people
          a) everything is clear
  5. kocclissi
    kocclissi 10 March 2014 16: 52
    +7
    Big arctic fox in a small country! And the people are silent ....
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 10 March 2014 17: 59
      +2
      Quote: kocclissi
      Big arctic fox in a small country! And the people are silent ....

      This is true in any country, only SMDs broadcast on behalf of the people, as it were, and the people themselves write comments on the Internet, and even if they can organize a rally with strong opposition, the world will not know about it anyway.
  6. Gorinich
    Gorinich 10 March 2014 16: 55
    +12
    The hryvnia will fall and fall, so in the near future we should expect the introduction of a coupon system in Ukraine. This logically follows from the development of events.
    1. saha471
      saha471 10 March 2014 17: 12
      +6
      I hope the Crimea and the East can avoid this with the help of Russia.
    2. atalef
      atalef 11 March 2014 12: 57
      -2
      Quote: Gorinich
      The hryvnia will fall and fall, so in the near future we should expect the introduction of a coupon system in Ukraine. This logically follows from the development of events.

      Absolutely not
      hryvnia to dollar rate changed from
      1.12.2013 - 9.15
      to 10.03.2014 9.63
      The fall was just over 6%
      Let's compare with the ruble
      1.12.2013 - 33.14
      10.03.2014/36.405/XNUMX --- XNUMX
      A fall of 9% - so who (oddly enough) goes for coupons?
      Economics is an interesting thing
    3. atalef
      atalef 11 March 2014 12: 57
      -1
      Quote: Gorinich
      The hryvnia will fall and fall, so in the near future we should expect the introduction of a coupon system in Ukraine. This logically follows from the development of events.

      Absolutely not
      hryvnia to dollar rate changed from
      1.12.2013 - 9.15
      to 10.03.2014 9.63
      The fall was just over 6%
      Let's compare with the ruble
      1.12.2013 - 33.14
      10.03.2014/36.405/XNUMX --- XNUMX
      A fall of 9% - so who (oddly enough) goes for coupons?
      Economics is an interesting thing
  7. erased
    erased 10 March 2014 16: 59
    +19
    It would be nice to analyze situevina with inflation, finances and social packages in Russia. The ruble falls like a boxer under the blows of an opponent, it’s time to open the account. Production no longer breathes, only the military-industrial complex somehow flounders. What about agriculture? And machine tool industry? And training for industry? But the internal tension and the increase in crime among migrants? And the fifth (+ 6,7,8,9) column? One hundred percent corruption among civil servants of all ranks? The outflow of capital from the country? Few?
    You can’t leave your brothers in trouble; Crimea, East and South of Ukraine (Little Russia) need help and protection from the Nazis and Bandera. But at the same time, do not forget our troubles. And it’s always like this - somewhere there is a fire and we forget about the crumbling walls of your house. And the media are happy to divert people's attention from close problems, switching their attention to distant ones.
    Meanwhile, the enemy is betting on internal enemies. Moreover, the state itself gives them trump cards in their hands.
    1. 31231
      31231 10 March 2014 17: 45
      +5
      Get a gang?
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 10 March 2014 18: 24
        +4
        Quote: 31231
        Get a gang?

        Are you still in doubt?
    2. apro
      apro 10 March 2014 17: 50
      +4
      It used to be fought with tanks and planes now at courses and ratings. If we stand in front of it, we can pull the Russians out of Ukraine and everything will fall into place.
    3. Ivan.
      Ivan. 10 March 2014 18: 11
      +2
      Quote: erased
      Few?

      Add the same inertia of the people and numerous lovers of house-2 there.
      But you can’t abandon your own, otherwise we will lose the remnants of self-esteem and hope for the future and no economic success will return this.
    4. Nayhas
      Nayhas 10 March 2014 20: 58
      -4
      Quote: erased
      only the military-industrial complex somehow flounders.

      While "floundering". Unfortunately, our military-industrial complex is not self-sufficient; it depends heavily on the West. The upgrade of the military-industrial complex and the release of modern weapons is impossible without the supply of equipment from abroad, because in this place we have a big gap. Even the equipment that has already been delivered requires a software update, zap. parts. The introduction of economic sanctions will primarily affect the supply to Russia of all kinds of weapons, dual-use products and equipment for their production. Perhaps this will be in the form of extending the Jackson-Vanik amendment to the Russian Federation. In this case, there will simply be no 5th generation aircraft, S-500/600/700, high-precision missiles, etc. Also, sanctions can affect the civil sector, the same means of communication can be recognized as dual-use products, equipment for cellular communications of all kinds of generations. In general, it will come out not just sideways ...
    5. mihasik
      mihasik 10 March 2014 22: 03
      +3
      If NATO stands in Ukraine, all that you have listed will be even worse at times, namely economically and politically. If you do not understand this, then there is nothing to help. I personally do not have any desire to have amers and banderlogs at 90km. from your home.
    6. atalef
      atalef 11 March 2014 13: 38
      0
      Quote: erased
      Production no longer breathes, only the military-industrial complex somehow flounders

      Production with an increase in the rate by another 1.5% will go to an even greater peak, the military-industrial complex will follow since a huge number of allies is the private sector. Further, the annexation of the Crimea - this is hundreds of billions of rubles (or a dozen or two) dollars - I do not ask where the money comes from, there are reserves, but now they go to maintain the ruble, you have to let the ruble go free (which the central bank starts to do), in due to the seasonal depreciation of oil and the imminent opening of the Iranian market (in connection with the lifting of sanctions) --- do you make a conclusion?
    7. atalef
      atalef 11 March 2014 13: 38
      0
      Quote: erased
      Production no longer breathes, only the military-industrial complex somehow flounders

      Production with an increase in the rate by another 1.5% will go to an even greater peak, the military-industrial complex will follow since a huge number of allies is the private sector. Further, the annexation of the Crimea - this is hundreds of billions of rubles (or a dozen or two) dollars - I do not ask where the money comes from, there are reserves, but now they go to maintain the ruble, you have to let the ruble go free (which the central bank starts to do), in due to the seasonal depreciation of oil and the imminent opening of the Iranian market (in connection with the lifting of sanctions) --- do you make a conclusion?
  8. Sigismund
    Sigismund 10 March 2014 17: 03
    +6
    Whatever they arrange, whoever comes. There is only one question. "And where are pennies? Sorry for ordinary people. Today, tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, Ukraine will fall apart anyway."
  9. jagdpanzer
    jagdpanzer 10 March 2014 17: 06
    +3
    I don’t understand the article why about Ukraine? everything is so clear that everything is bad, it’s more interesting for me to find out about Russia.
  10. Zomanus
    Zomanus 10 March 2014 17: 08
    +2
    That's when the hryvnia equals the ruble, then we can talk about the fall. But it’s too early. And so yes, sorry for the land. For now they will sell in an emergency mode what they did not have time to sell in recent years. And these are the remains of production, weapons, land ...
    1. raf
      raf 10 March 2014 17: 27
      +8
      Hryvnia of course, nominally, more expensive than the ruble, but find an idiot who will exchange rubles for the hryvnia!
      1. atalef
        atalef 11 March 2014 13: 41
        0
        Quote: raf
        Hryvnia of course, nominally, more expensive than the ruble, but find an idiot who will exchange rubles for the hryvnia!

        More precisely, on the contrary, the hryvnia per ruble. because hryvnia against the dollar today (for 3 months from the beginning of the mess in Kiev) --- fell less than the ruble.
      2. atalef
        atalef 11 March 2014 13: 41
        0
        Quote: raf
        Hryvnia of course, nominally, more expensive than the ruble, but find an idiot who will exchange rubles for the hryvnia!

        More precisely, on the contrary, the hryvnia per ruble. because hryvnia against the dollar today (for 3 months from the beginning of the mess in Kiev) --- fell less than the ruble.
    2. atalef
      atalef 11 March 2014 13: 39
      0
      Quote: Zomanus
      That's when the hryvnia equals the ruble, then we can talk about the fall

      Some kind of nonsense, but why not with the yen?
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  11. saha471
    saha471 10 March 2014 17: 09
    +7
    Quote: kocclissi
    Big arctic fox in a small country! And the people are silent ....


    Big arctic fox for a little one,
    Independence of such a company,
    Fascist such a company
    Shaggy such an arctic fox! (with)

    although not funny at all .... ((((
  12. individual
    individual 10 March 2014 17: 10
    -1
    Inflation is a purely economic doctrine and is not predictable.
    There is also the teaching of numerologists:
    There is a popular opinion that 102 is a fatal number for our country.
    Every 102 years, Russia fights with someone.
    1404 siege of Smolensk by the Lithuanian prince Vitovt.
    1506 - "Kazan campaign" of the Grand Duchy of Moscow to the lands of the Great Horde.
    1608 - the campaign of False Dmitry with the Poles in Moscow.
    1710 - the beginning of the Russian-Turkish war.
    1812 - World War II with the French.
    1914 - The First World War.
    1941 - the year of great disaster does not fit into the scheme.
    What is preparing our country for the 2016th year ???
    1. kocclissi
      kocclissi 10 March 2014 17: 24
      +7
      Here the 14-15th would survive ...
      1. Ivan.
        Ivan. 10 March 2014 18: 19
        +1
        Quote: kocclissi
        Here the 14-15th would survive ...

        And win at the same time! A few small victories will not hurt. They will prepare a great victory!
    2. SkiF_RnD
      SkiF_RnD 10 March 2014 18: 16
      +5
      Take then all the years when Russia fought. You will find that almost all numbers for Russia are fatal laughing
    3. Setrac
      Setrac 10 March 2014 21: 53
      0
      Quote: individ
      1914 - The First World War.
      1941 - the year of great disaster does not fit into the scheme.

      Everything fits into the scheme, the Second World War is not in itself, but a continuation of the First World War.
  13. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 10 March 2014 17: 10
    +11
    Yes, it’s some kind of zvizdets. There’s already been so much firewood that it’s necessary to steal a decade already. It’s urgent to drive all these gangsters from the country, to apologize to fellow citizens and law enforcement agencies. To expand Crimea’s autonomy and ask Moscow for economic and any other help. But no, it’s will not be done! It means that the article written is the tip of the iceberg. It is a pity how many generations the situation normalized scary and thinking. Personally, I don’t want to have anything in common with such a crazy neighbor. Moreover, I should pay for their mistakes. And I will take the territories with the people who ask to be a part of Russia with Joy, thereby helping other inhabitants of the Samostoynaya feed themselves
  14. inkass_98
    inkass_98 10 March 2014 17: 29
    +1
    Here who would expect from a pop group horseradish knows how many years ago quite sound composition. I think that they did not expect a wave of such resonance to the quite mundane and banal thoughts expressed more than 10 years ago. And again we return to the idea that history moves in a spiral. and This is an undeniable truth.
  15. 31231
    31231 10 March 2014 17: 38
    +2
    Good article. Almost completely reveals the economy.
  16. zbidnev
    zbidnev 10 March 2014 17: 38
    -19%
    You would better analyze what awaits your ruble in a couple of days.
    1. mpa945
      mpa945 10 March 2014 17: 58
      +2
      Are you interested in zec?
    2. klavyr
      klavyr 10 March 2014 18: 41
      +3
      You would better analyze what awaits your ruble in a couple of days.
      - Give your wife advice!
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 10 March 2014 19: 08
        +7
        Calmly and without rudeness.

        We know that everything is normal with the ruble. That a gang of our financiers played very well on the "fall" of the ruble, replenished the budget well with green cut paper and bought back a mountain of shares of our enterprises for the same paper.

        Quote: zbidnev
        waiting for your ruble and in a couple of days.


        I would say this: the banks will have to remove the ads "ruble / hryvnia".
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 10 March 2014 20: 30
          +1
          Quote: Banshee
          We know that with the ruble all the rules.

          I would still not speak with such confidence. The consequences of the January and February fall, the population will feel in about six months.
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        3. atalef
          atalef 11 March 2014 14: 45
          0
          Quote: Banshee
          We know that with the ruble all the rules.

          belay
          Quote: Banshee
          That a gang of our financiers played very well on the "fall" of the ruble, replenished the budget well with green cut paper and bought back a mountain of shares of our enterprises for the same paper

          Having lowered the salaries of the population and raising the prices of imported products.
          The fall of the ruble over 16% is normal - a rather bold statement.
    3. A. Yaga
      A. Yaga 10 March 2014 20: 26
      +2
      Quote: zbidnev
      You would better analyze what awaits your ruble in a couple of days.

      The ruble will "fall" several more times, since not yet all the shares of state monopolies were bought by our merchants in the west on the sly.
    4. Simon
      Simon 10 March 2014 21: 15
      +1
      Our ruble will work for the good of Russia, but your hryvnia will most likely disappear from the face of the earth.
  17. sazhka4
    sazhka4 10 March 2014 17: 39
    +3
    Unfortunately mad .. Hasty Izba and Izba reading room are different things ..
  18. gfs84
    gfs84 10 March 2014 17: 47
    +5
    Energy. Since April, gas prices will rise by about 25%. Fuel at nuclear power plants, according to the last report, also remained until the end of April. According to the Czech president, if Ukraine signs an association agreement with the EU, then electricity prices will also increase by about 25%.


    I wonder how long this loan will last? ...

    Negotiations with the mission of the International Monetary Fund, as well as the work of the Ukrainian government to reduce government spending, allow us to expect the receipt of the first tranche of funds under the country's program with the IMF in April, Ukrainian Finance Minister Oleksandr Shlapak said at a briefing in Kiev on March 10. At the same time, the minister emphasized that the allocation of IMF funds should be preceded by a parliamentary decision on sequestration of the state budget. Assessing the size of this sequestration, the head of the Ministry of Finance emphasized that the hidden budget deficit is about 50 billion hryvnias: the parliament will be offered to reduce current, capital and social expenses by this amount. In this regard, the Minister noted that in recent years, the country could function solely by increasing the public debt and, possibly, macroeconomic indicators of Ukraine were overestimated, Interfax reports.

    The default of Ukraine is most likely to be expected just in April, after which all lending will cease altogether ...

    The collapse of the hryvnia will not help even exporters, since they all depend on imported gas ...

    There and then the collapse of Ukraine will begin ...

    She will not survive until the election, at least in its current form ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 10 March 2014 18: 06
      +2
      Quote: gfs84
      The default of Ukraine is most likely to be expected just in April, after which all lending will cease altogether.

      The US wants to load the EU with the burden of financial assistance to Ukraine - Russian Deputy Washington wants to load the European Union with the load of financial assistance to Ukraine, which is in a deep socio-economic crisis, said the head of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs Alexei Pushkov. "No one is waiting for Ukraine in the EU, except for Poland and the United States, which themselves give a penny, and they want to lay the entire burden of paying for the Ukrainian devastation on Europe," he wrote on Twitter. As you know, the United States has promised Ukraine $ 1 billion in emergency financial assistance. According to the Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk, Europe has stated that it can provide Ukraine with $ 15 billion.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-140750.html
  19. SF93
    SF93 10 March 2014 18: 11
    +3
    Why so tormented by the new Kiev authorities, it’s better to immediately strangle oneself. Although the maydaunas themselves will strangle them, a matter of time. The only thing that unites them so far is their common enemy, Russia. Rats in the bank, when they have nothing to eat, begin to eat their own kind. West promises help, which is just enough for the soap with the ropes.
  20. DS14
    DS14 10 March 2014 18: 17
    +2
    Turchinov: "The Bible gives the answer to the questioner to any question." Copies of King Solomon can solve all the financial problems of Ukraine:

    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 10 March 2014 19: 10
      +3
      Gawls at him !!!
      This is why it is necessary to sit down, who knows ???

      I want it too. belay
      1. skifd
        skifd 10 March 2014 19: 45
        +4
        So also in Crimea he and his gang of morons send (in the video and about syringes are):
  21. Neophyte
    Neophyte 10 March 2014 18: 19
    +4
    The Second Republic is covered with a copper basin! Four hetman thieves
    brought nenka to absurdity. The Federation is almost impossible, since
    There is no one to negotiate with. In April, perhaps, there will be a denouement with a terrible scenario! Left-bank Ukraine, God forbid, stand out as a new state, and everything beyond the Dnieper will be called Galicia with Bandera
    bias.
  22. svp67
    svp67 10 March 2014 18: 24
    +26
    Dear FORUMCHANES, such a serious fateful event left one more shadow in the shadow, alas, the great artist Anatoly Kuznetsov, our friend Sukhov, passed away ... I don’t know what inflation will be next month, there are a lot of factors on most of which I personally will not be able to influence how, well, I will adapt to what will happen, but I know that I sincerely regret that this man died ... very bright and with a great Russian soul ... He rest in peace and long memory and our recognition ...
    1. I do not care
      I do not care 10 March 2014 18: 40
      +3
      must remember everything-
      Peacocks, say ...
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 10 March 2014 19: 11
        +5
        She ... "I don't take bribes, I'm sorry for the state!"
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 10 March 2014 19: 39
          +6
          Quote: Banshee
          She ... "I don't take bribes, I'm sorry for the state!"
          Actually, this phrase does not belong to Sukhov (Kuznetsov), but to Vereshchagin (Luspekaev). But still, I take off my hat to my memory, at least a virtual one ...
          hi
    2. serge siberian
      serge siberian 10 March 2014 19: 28
      +6
      I'm sorry, my friends just found out and this news shocked me !!! I will remember like many other great actors of our USSR HOMELAND !!!
  23. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 10 March 2014 18: 42
    +1
    Quote: ia-ai00
    How can this information be conveyed to that part of the people of Ukraine who went for these PO / D / O / NKI?


    No way. Let them continue to sing songs, hemp sss ... e. Hey, the sluggishness of the brothers is already unnerving.
  24. mr.rafael-r
    mr.rafael-r 10 March 2014 18: 52
    +1
    Crimea must be separated from the Ukrainians. Money to support the region (before joining the Russian Federation) from the budget of Russia. Saving on the rental of bases of the Black Sea Fleet (I think it is unlikely to take money from Russia for the bases). So Russia will not remain in the loser. Why give money to the fascist regime ?????
  25. Bakht
    Bakht 10 March 2014 18: 55
    +11
    I'm like Cato the Elder.

    Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. In the English version of Carthage MUST be destroyed. Carthage must be destroyed. The main word MUST.

    Only a general strike in the Southeast will bring immediate results. Do not be afraid of financial losses. In the event of a strengthening of power in Kiev, all (ALL) plants will either be shut down or reduced. Under the terms of joining the European Union, Ukraine should reduce steel production from 30 million tons to 2. Overproduction in the world is 500 million tons.

    So nowhere to retreat.

    In addition to the main effect - depriving the oligarchs of money, this action has very important functions. The trump card about mishandled Muscovites is beaten out. No tourists can organize a strike. Absenteeism is the choice of citizens of Ukraine. The second important factor is assistance to the Crimea. Under conditions of a UNIVERSAL strike, conducting military operations or provocations will become very difficult.

    The case is for the citizens of the South and Southeast of Ukraine.

    No one will give us deliverance:
    Neither god, nor king, nor hero.
    We will achieve liberation
    With his own hand.
    To overthrow oppression with a skilled hand,
    To win back your good, -
    Blow the hearth and forge boldly
    While the iron is hot!
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  27. oe042
    oe042 10 March 2014 19: 02
    -3
    While some citizens continue to escalate anti-Russian hysteria, we will continue to analyze the economic situation in Ukraine.
    Analyze your economic situation.
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 11 March 2014 14: 00
      0
      Both, the English trollolo arrived. Internet warriors.
  28. God of war
    God of war 10 March 2014 19: 14
    -2
    I want to say cheers to the patriots. The economic sanctions of the West will hit more than just one region in Russia. The Americans have pulled all their forces there. This is the Kaliningrad region. This is the Achilles heel of Russia. Its residents can feel that there is a blockade.
  29. flc9800
    flc9800 10 March 2014 19: 19
    +6
    Nothing personal! Independent, maidanutnye t_v_a_ri will ride very soon with a bare ass fool
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 10 March 2014 19: 50
      +4
      Quote: flc9800
      Nothing personal! Independent, maidanutnye t_v_a_ri will ride very soon with a bare ass fool

      And their children will stand between the shafts.
      1. I am a Russian
        I am a Russian 10 March 2014 21: 37
        0
        Quote: Nagan
        Quote: flc9800
        Nothing personal! Independent, maidanutnye t_v_a_ri will ride very soon with a naked ass fool

        And their children will stand between the shafts.


        But it could be another way: zapadentsy will crush the rest of Ukrainians for themselves and will exploit them. And while they do it.
  30. PPO-1980
    PPO-1980 10 March 2014 19: 21
    +3
    “It would be nice to analyze the situation with inflation, finances and social benefits in Russia. The ruble is falling like a boxer under the blows of an opponent, it's time to open an account. Production is already not breathing, only the military-industrial complex is somehow floundering. And agriculture? And machine tool construction? training for industry, internal tensions and an increase in crime among migrants, and the fifth (+ 6,7,8,9) column, XNUMX% corruption among civil servants of all ranks, capital outflow from the country?
    You can’t leave your brothers in trouble; Crimea, East and South of Ukraine (Little Russia) need help and protection from the Nazis and Bandera. But at the same time, do not forget our troubles. And it’s always like this - somewhere there is a fire and we forget about the crumbling walls of your house. And the media are happy to divert people's attention from close problems, switching their attention to distant ones.
    Meanwhile, the enemy relies on internal enemies. Moreover, the state itself gives them trump cards. "
    I partially agree.
    BUT.
    No one doubts that you will have to tighten the belts.
    There are problems (fact).
    But who doubts that this state of affairs foresaw the GDP and did not take any measures. Assuming the opposite: is GDP a nerd?
    Or does the liberal environment play on the side of the West?
    If yes, then things are really bad. And this is not hotz at all.
  31. psychologist
    psychologist 10 March 2014 19: 29
    +4
    I think the dollar really cries in the picture !!! Yes, do not be killed so America !! we will not let you starve! necessarily loans if we help !! Well, or the IMF ask to give !! lol
  32. dimtrim
    dimtrim 10 March 2014 19: 31
    +2
    Yes, on the one hand, it is a pity (for the "blind", "deaf" and those who cannot think) people in Ukraine. And on the other hand, every blacksmith of his freedom.
  33. serge siberian
    serge siberian 10 March 2014 19: 38
    +3
    but about the economy of Russia, after the Paralympic Games, it will roll downhill. Already now the carelessness is three times higher than the official one, and banks willingly give loans to everyone in a row. People will take away housing, the latter will be paid off for a penny and the homeless will increase! the oligarchs wouldn't let him in the trash. It’s not for nothing that the rubop was removed, they know a lot. And as a whole, I would return the USSR.
    1. Havoc
      Havoc 10 March 2014 23: 38
      +1
      Dear unemployment among "lawyers" and "economists" who were riveted in the 90s, there is not enough people with working specialties.
      1. Setrac
        Setrac 10 March 2014 23: 46
        0
        Quote: Havoc
        Dear unemployment among "lawyers" and "economists" who were riveted in the 90s, there is not enough people with working specialties.

        I support! What kind of unemployment are we talking about? The work is endless.
        1. DyadyshkaPrimus
          DyadyshkaPrimus 11 March 2014 05: 28
          0
          I agree. Just what is the situation? I’m working on a rampart, but we’re crooked, everyone wants to be bosses and also so that they do nothing. Real specialists work until death because there is no one to hand over.
      2. atalef
        atalef 11 March 2014 14: 49
        0
        Quote: Havoc
        Dear unemployment among "lawyers" and "economists" who were riveted in the 90s, there is not enough people with working specialties.

        There is no value among whom unemployment - these people will sit on the budget. By the way, they won’t go to the factories and continue to receive their social package. help
        Quote: Havoc
        people with working specialties are not enough.

        So how is it ? Are the people rushing to the factories?
  34. siberalt
    siberalt 10 March 2014 19: 40
    +8
    Ukraine is not a goal, but a means. And no one hides this.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/472/hdbx578.jpg
    1. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 10 March 2014 21: 42
      +1
      Quote: siberalt
      Ukraine is not a goal, but a means. And no one hides it


      I agree with you. But for the first time I see when they have a country (Ukraine), and Ukraine drags on this.

      supposedly a prostitute to be fashionable
      1. Native grandfather
        Native grandfather 10 March 2014 23: 00
        +1
        Quote: I am a Russian
        supposedly a prostitute to be fashionable

        Maybe Ukraine would be nice? (((
  35. fly fishing
    fly fishing 10 March 2014 19: 43
    +1
    At a rally in Kharkov, Klitschko was thrown with apples and eggs

    not eggs and apples had to be thrown, but doused with honey and poured into fluff .. let the cockerel stay)))
  36. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 10 March 2014 20: 30
    0
    Inflation and the collapse of the hryvnia, whether we want it or not, will certainly affect us. Therefore, economists urgently need to consider options for how less painful for the Russian economy to survive (the collapse of the hryvnia), especially for enterprises tied to the southeast of Ukraine. Yes and Southeast residents need to move faster with the decision: are they with Russia or will actually help to kill themselves.
  37. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 10 March 2014 20: 32
    +2
    From the Don.
    The budget deficit of Ukraine, in the case of the secession of Crimea, instantly increases by the amount of payments by Russia for the base, the termination of the transfers of Crimea to Kiev of all payments, etc. And there will be, as a result of galloping inflation. Ukraine will have the same money with which they started !
    Well, let the USA look carefully around! [[Media = 1394298965_2000113887]
    1. atalef
      atalef 11 March 2014 14: 57
      -1
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      The budget deficit of Ukraine, in the event of the secession of Crimea, instantly increases by the amount of the payment by Russia for the base, the termination of the transfers of Crimea to Kiev of all payments, etc.

      Crimea was 60% dated from the center of the region, and no base fees did not cover it. If you are about money, Ukraine financially without Crimea only wins.
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      And there will be, as a result of galloping inflation. In Ukraine the same money with which they started-bamazhki!

      The fall of the hryvnia to the dollar is less than the fall of the ruble to the dollar.
      Do not rush to statements, the crisis is only at the very beginning - and in both states.
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  38. Renat
    Renat 10 March 2014 20: 33
    +4
    With Crimea, everything is more or less clear. Economically. Will become a subsidized subject of the federation. As for Ukraine itself, everything is much sadder there. Reduction of social expenditure items, pensions, payments, etc. Raising all kinds of utility tariffs, etc. The West will bring the country's economy to its knees. I do not envy the east of Ukraine. They will have to pay for this whole "wedding". Since now, they are forced to write applications for the transfer of 10% of salaries for the restoration of the Maidan. That is, someone walked robbed burned raped and someone will pay for all this and be guilty at the same time.
  39. arane
    arane 10 March 2014 20: 59
    +3
    Quote: bubalik
    The current Kiev authorities voluntarily transferred them to their American patrons as collateral for a loan to finance an already completed coup d'etat and an upcoming military provocation against Russia.



    In this case, I think the deposit will not be returned in any case. Yes, and the debt will be torn off ....
  40. Mikuduk
    Mikuduk 10 March 2014 21: 06
    +1
    Quote: Renat
    With Crimea, everything is more or less clear. In economic terms. Will become a subsidized subject of the federation.

    Justify your point of view.
    I can say, at least for the prospective reserves of Crimean hydrocarbons, which are estimated at 1,5 trillion tons of standard fuel. In Crimea, there is no serious geological exploration, they exploit 5% of the existing fields on the strength.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 10 March 2014 21: 16
      +1
      Quote: Mikuduk
      I can say, at least for the prospective reserves of Crimean hydrocarbons, which are estimated at 1,5 trillion tons of standard fuel. In Crimea, there is no serious geological exploration, they exploit 5% of the existing fields on the strength.

      Well so it is necessary to invest money in it? In addition, where to put the peasants? Having lost water, they will be forced to leave the farms, because there will be nothing to do there, the canals will dry up and the Crimea will again turn into a dry steppe. Therefore, they will have to be relocated to the Krasnodar Territory (or to Siberia?), Again, money is needed for this. Those. expenses will exceed even prospective income, which makes the region subsidized.
  41. targitai
    targitai 10 March 2014 21: 07
    +2
    But I'm afraid, as if under the Ukrainian noise, we would not have done anything. The Duma is now adopting "useful" laws, but no one will notice. Look how quietly Sirdyukov's amnesty passed. If it were not for Ukraine, then I cannot imagine what righteous anger there would have been about the amnesty.
  42. Nayhas
    Nayhas 10 March 2014 21: 10
    0
    Firstly, all the money from multi-billion dollar contracts with China that used to go to Kiev will now go directly to the Crimean government.

    What kind of childish naivety? Do you think the Chinese are idiots? They signed an agreement with Yanukovych, the president of Ukraine, and not with Putin. This time. Crimea without Dnieper water is a deserted dry steppe, where nothing will grow. These are two. In this regard, the construction of a seaport for the transportation of grain becomes meaningless. These are three.
    I think this is understood both in Crimea and they don’t count on Chinese money. China’s position is clear, the separation of Crimea is not profitable for him. This puts an end to a huge (epoch-making for China) project for leasing arable land in Belarus and Ukraine with the construction of a large grain terminal in Crimea. With the separation of the Crimea, the lease of agricultural land in Belarus and Ukraine becomes meaningless.
  43. Native grandfather
    Native grandfather 10 March 2014 21: 39
    +1
    Not only that, the Russian Federation has already abandoned European and American meat ...

    And I do not even remember when it was the last time I ate enemy meat. We have our own "bird" here (I think there are also many in many regions) and I buy pork with beef only fresh from my fellow countrymen.
  44. intsurfer
    intsurfer 10 March 2014 21: 46
    +1
    Quote: baltika-18
    Quote: Banshee
    We know that with the ruble all the rules.

    I would still not speak with such confidence. The consequences of the January and February fall, the population will feel in about six months.

    already ... Gasoline has risen in price by 50 kopecks and now in Nizhny Novgorod the 92nd is already 30.10. And this despite the fact that we have an oil producing country, and an oil refinery is 30 km from the city.
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      1. Gecko
        Gecko 10 March 2014 23: 38
        +1
        If you do not respect your president, then other countries will not respect you ...
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 10 March 2014 23: 48
        0
        Quote: God of war
        On the one hand, I am opposed to what is happening in Ukraine now. On the other hand, Pukin in my eyes drops even more.

        Tell me why Putin is "falling in your eyes"? As the saying goes, break everything down.
  45. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 10 March 2014 21: 49
    +2
    Well, dear ones? Does anyone else still think that the economic and political strength of the state directly depends on the index of hamburger, cheeseburger and other plastic pies? Or, what takes place in the possibility of printing, if necessary, green candy wrappers that are still in use? Yes, fullness! The time of this paper is passing. The state is strong not only in its economy (well, and the economy of the USA and Europe, well, very much not a variant of the beginning of the 20th century, but very, very dependent not only on Russia, but even more on other players and who said that they intend to go to bed under these people who have already imagined themselves too pompous - yes, they themselves already understand that they themselves have gone too far, having decided that there is no longer Russia, and the rest of the world is not a decree for them) they will never understand that time cannot be stopped. Well, well, those are worse for him. I, of course, am not bloodthirsty, but for some reason persistent, I would say impudently persistent calls for Russia to repent of the mythical sins imposed on our people, in contrast to their own, very specific and obvious, come to mind for some reason. They kind of, I will say, moreover, so convinced the whole World of their infallibility and exclusivity that it seems that they themselves long ago, with a mentoring tone, believed in their infallibility. But everything comes to an end. And now we see that sound forces are waking up in the West too - although they are not very strong yet, but their vector is becoming more and more independent of the "independent media" I certainly believe that POWER IS IN THE TRUTH and this truth is on Our and Those sides Who supports us. Well, if sound forces in the West cannot dominate, it is necessary to directly appeal not only to the Russian, but also to the entire cultural and scientific, technical intelligentsia, the elite, who, by the will of fate, found themselves on an increasingly blackening side to return to their homeland (perhaps for whom something new) or to actively counter these black forces.
  46. valodavoodoo
    valodavoodoo 10 March 2014 22: 10
    +2
    Ukrainians do you really want what is now in Kiev, people come to your senses stop this trash we are all one family, we have relatives everywhere. Place order YOUR TERRITORIES WE ARE FUCKING NOT NEEDED !!!! A CRIMEA Always has been and will be ours! Sincerely, RUSSIAN.
    1. arane
      arane 11 March 2014 00: 10
      +2
      I fully support.
      Regards, NERUSSK!
  47. aniza
    aniza 10 March 2014 22: 31
    -4
    Quote: GreatRussia
    Quote: SHILO
    “Glory to the Nation!” Death to pensioners! ”

    As for me, "Hero of the Savannah" sounds better.

    Sevastopol:








    Sorry, but this is also a degeneration of fascism. Do not be like them. To be honest, I would punish these in the photo. Let him be a fascist, and a bastard - this cannot be solved with a rope. Otherwise, how do they differ from these?
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 10 March 2014 23: 51
      0
      Quote: aniza
      Sorry, but this is also a degeneration of fascism.

      So let fascism "REGENERATE".
      Quote: aniza
      To be honest, I would punish those in the photo.

      Well, of course, how the Maydan killed the police - this is normal, but here the doll, not a living person, UUUUU, animals, torturers.
  48. Vasily Klopkov
    Vasily Klopkov 10 March 2014 22: 40
    +2
    The new illegal Ukrainian government began to persecute the free press, which did not support the Maidan. http://2000.net.ua/2000/forum/na-grani/98321 Close one of the most popular Russian-language publications.
  49. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 10 March 2014 22: 42
    +2
    This is what was required. to prove that roosters seized power, they wanted to be an all-Ukraine and remove the last shirt from the people, here’s how people are robbed of people by the sight of European democracy, it’s interesting that those roosters who supported the geyropeans for 200 hryvnias will say, but soon this money will run out, but what about those who don’t tomorrow will be able to buy a piece of bread, milk for a child, etc., so that the assistants stumbled on stingrays!


    Separate aspect that no one
    does not articulate - if Crimea
    will leave Ukraine
    (join the Russian Federation or become
    independent state) then
    in view of the continuity gap
    lay part of it
    Ukrainian debts will not work.
    Today's aggregate
    Ukraine’s external debt is approximately
    equal to $ 140 billion, which in terms of
    per capita is $
    3100. If the population of Ukraine
    will be 2 million less then
    it will already be $ 3250 on
    person (including senior citizens and
    babies, that is really still
    more).
  50. AleksPol
    AleksPol 10 March 2014 23: 09
    +2
    I read the news: US senators demanded to deprive Russia of the 2018 World Cup. They completely lost their scent. And here is sport. And so they did not send their athletes to the Paralympics. And here they decided P.od.so.sr.a.t.t. Inhumans, mold of tsevilisation.
    1. Partizan
      Partizan 11 March 2014 06: 09
      -1
      So it's buzzing, Rasey will not spend looking for a million rubles, now at the 2018 World Cup.
      1. viach
        viach 11 March 2014 10: 29
        +1
        Shut up, bookkeeper!