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In Ukraine, made a new version of the BTR-4

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The Ukrainian Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building Design Bureau (KMDK), which is part of the State Concern Ukroboronprom, produced a new version of the armored combat vehicle BTR-4 with additional protection.

“The new version of the armored vehicle BTR-4 is expanding the family of armored vehicles with the wheel formula 8х8, which is already in mass production. KMDB has developed and manufactured a prototype and a set of hinged armor for it, ”the report says on the KMDB website.
“The hinged armor can significantly increase the protection of the crew and the assault forces that are inside the BTR-4. At the same time, it can be installed and dismantled by the crew in the field, depending on the planned combat mission and the intended level of threat, ”the press release says.

BTR-4 is a floating combat armored vehicle with a wheel formula 4х4. It has a modular design, which allowed to create a family of armored vehicles on the basis of a common chassis. It includes an armored personnel carrier, an infantry fighting vehicle, a command vehicle, a command and control vehicle, a medical vehicle, and an evacuation vehicle. Thanks to the use of various combat modules and special equipment, the vehicle can be adapted to perform various combat and auxiliary tasks, according to the description of the armored vehicle on the company's website.

BTR-4 adopted by the Ukrainian army.

In 2009, Ukraine entered into a contract to supply 420 with such machines to Iraq. However, in August last year, the Iraqi side rejected the 42 armored personnel carrier, which were sent back to Ukraine. The buyer accepted only about 100 machines, further deliveries were threatened.

In September last year, it became known that Iraq decided instead of Ukrainian armored personnel carriers to buy Russian BTR-82, as well as possible options for upgrading the existing fleet of Soviet BTR and BMP, delivered in 1980-s.

In addition to Iraq, Ukraine supplies the BTR-4 to Indonesia (last year a contract was signed for the supply of five cars) and Kazakhstan (the contract for the supply of 2012 BTR-100 was signed in 4 in the year).
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http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/3/10/676355.html
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  1. shyler
    shyler 11 March 2014 08: 32
    +17
    True patriots work for the good of their country, and not during working hours on the Maidan destroy the country
    1. jjj
      jjj 11 March 2014 08: 34
      +9
      Some vague suspicions arise. Once the "native armor" is cracking, we cover it with hinged sheets. And I was also pleased that the crew can hang the sheets themselves in the field. And before that, where did they keep the sheets, in the glove compartment?
      1. Kapitan Oleg
        Kapitan Oleg 11 March 2014 08: 46
        +3
        No, they will carry them on a cart
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      3. dmitriygorshkov
        dmitriygorshkov 11 March 2014 09: 25
        0
        And then, why do you need to remove this reinforced armor? Maybe it’s not enough? Like we are on the farm today, and put a watch on your watch? laughing
        1. Phase
          Phase 11 March 2014 13: 15
          0
          Quote: dmitriygorshkov
          And then, why do you need to remove this reinforced armor? Maybe it’s not enough? Like we are on the farm today, and put a watch on your watch?

          This concept is in vogue now. A "heavy" attachment armor set can render the vehicle unable to float. If we force a water barrier, we do not use the harness, or we use it partially.
          In addition, this set of armor almost certainly reduces mobility. With the marching transfer to the rear areas, again, we can not use it, but send it to the place of the alleged concentration in the back of the truck or along the railway.
          But we must understand that the West gives birth to all these concepts based on the experience of military operations against a weak adversary - Iraq, Libya, etc. In a large-scale conflict with a serious enemy, any logistics is unreliable and it is better to always have armor "on yourself", here you are right.
    2. theadenter
      theadenter 11 March 2014 08: 37
      +3
      Usually those who work for the good of their country know the price of the Maidan and will never follow amateurs with a disputed past.
      1. avg
        avg 11 March 2014 10: 21
        +1
        Quote: theadenter
        Usually those who work for the good of their country know the price of the Maidan and will never follow amateurs with a disputed past.

        Correctly. It is necessary to use the new armored personnel carriers to protect the inhabitants of their native city from the maydanut and hired oligarchic armies.
  2. saag
    saag 11 March 2014 08: 32
    +3
    Even in Iraq she was rejected ...
    1. Simon
      Simon 11 March 2014 08: 44
      +2
      All this is done in the name of the insurgent people of Ukraine, so that these armored personnel carriers do not even leave the boxes, it seems they will not defend the puppet government. I wonder what the new "government" will pay to the Kharkovites who have created this car? recourse
  3. Mechvod T-64
    Mechvod T-64 11 March 2014 08: 33
    +3
    Some kind of garage tuning ... Looks like homemade.
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 11 March 2014 08: 54
      +1
      Well, obviously not homemade. Although the performance itself causes a feeling of some incompleteness, yes. But - if they buy, it means that he is something of himself.
    2. Com T-64a
      Com T-64a 11 March 2014 09: 59
      -2
      Yeah, like bed nets at 34-85 in Berlin, to protect against "fausts" ...
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 11 March 2014 12: 02
        +1
        Like Com. T-64a, you should know that not grids, but screens made in wire workshops.
        How much can you smack nonsense - it hurts.
        1. Phase
          Phase 11 March 2014 14: 14
          +1
          Quote: lelikas
          Like Com. T-64a, you should know that not grids, but screens made in wire workshops.
          How much can you smack nonsense - it hurts.

          Yes, the bike about bed nets pretty much got it. The cumulative screens for our tanks were indeed manufactured in the factory or (in some cases) in the conditions of repair facilities in accordance with the developed documentation.
          At the same time, for some reason it does not occur to any of the distributors of this bearded myth that the bed net as a screen is simply NOT SUITABLE due to the fact that it easily bends and does not trigger warheads at a distance from the armor.
          1. svp67
            svp67 11 March 2014 21: 02
            0
            Quote: Com. T-64a
            like bed nets

            Quote: lelikas
            and screens made in wire workshops.

            Quote: Phase
            The cumulative screens for our tanks were indeed manufactured in the factory or (in some cases) in the conditions of the repair facilities in accordance with the developed documentation.

            You can talk a lot, but enough to show
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 11 March 2014 21: 47
      0
      Quote: Mehvod T-64
      Some kind of garage tuning ... Looks like homemade.

      So I want to ask What is KNOW-HOW?
      SAAB makes armor of ceramic balls, the Americans went on the development of technology of aluminum alloys, and then ..........
  4. Wiruz
    Wiruz 11 March 2014 08: 35
    +3
    Such a machine on the Maidan had to be brought to help Berkut.
    1. starhina01
      starhina01 11 March 2014 08: 49
      0
      and check for fire resistance hi
  5. Volodya Sibiryak
    Volodya Sibiryak 11 March 2014 08: 36
    +4
    It seems that with additional sheets, cracks in the body were covered.
  6. Andrey78
    Andrey78 11 March 2014 08: 36
    +2
    "BTR-4 adopted by the Ukrainian army"
    Only in the video clips about the movement of his equipment, for some reason is not visible. Probably well disguised :).
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 11 March 2014 08: 46
      0
      Quote: Andrey78
      Only in the video clips about the movement of his equipment, for some reason is not visible. Probably well disguised :).

      so it’s like he can be counted on the fingers in the Ukrainian army.
      1. Roman 1977
        Roman 1977 11 March 2014 11: 25
        +1
        Quote: Yeraz
        so it’s like he can be counted on the fingers in the Ukrainian army.

        In the 2009 year, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine ordered the 10 BTR-4. As of December 2013, no deliveries were made.
        http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C1%D2%D0-4

        Those. Zbrodnyh Forces has no BTR-4. All other deliveries of this device ended in an inglorious failure, the same attempt to drag it into Azerbaijan, or a universal disgrace like, for example, to Iraq ... As of December 2013, out of 88 BTR-4 delivered to Iraq, almost 80% cannot be operated due to unsatisfactory technical states.
        http://gazeta.zn.ua/internal/ya-pomnyu-vse-tvoi-treschinki-_.html

        I remember the enthusiastic cries of the Ukrainians that this "armored personnel carrier" entered the top ten armored personnel carriers in the world, ahead of the BTR-80 and its modifications ...


        Apparently this was a drunk of the same defective Iraqi party. Even Negroes refused to buy them in such a way as Iraq, so cunning Ukrainians found a way out, hung armor from above, and there was no more protection and welding snot. Now the Papuans will definitely buy it. Tse peremoga ...
        Well, it looks like this is an option for Indonesia, which seems to have expressed a desire to purchase the 55 BTR-4 for its marine corps, with the goal of replacing the obsolete BTR-50 ... Because the propellers, as you can see in the photo, were left.
        1. sanek45744
          sanek45744 11 March 2014 18: 22
          0
          and he is swimming in a factory pond in calm water and it already looks like a submarine! !!!! and what will happen to him in open water and even on sea waves plus mounted armor !!! no, it’s not suitable for the Marine Corps !!!! and of course I wouldn’t like to scuffle and all that, but there’s one weighty one because if Ukraine doesn’t pay off gas debts, gasprom will turn off gas!
  7. Igor39
    Igor39 11 March 2014 08: 39
    +5
    In a good scenario, they can make "Kurganets" for the Russian Army.
    1. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 11 March 2014 08: 50
      +4
      The Kharkov plant can do a lot of good things, both for our armed forces and for Russia as a whole.
      1. Vadim12
        Vadim12 11 March 2014 09: 51
        +1
        True, a good little factory. We in Russia need this together with Kharkov .. winked
  8. Same lech
    Same lech 11 March 2014 08: 40
    +6
    They say they’ve adopted it ... and this is when UKRAINE is barely making ends meet and is now standing on the edge of GRIP .. not all this seriously.
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 11 March 2014 08: 55
      +1
      No, they accepted it much earlier. There was simply no money to issue "for myself".
  9. kotdavin4i
    kotdavin4i 11 March 2014 08: 41
    +5
    Good morning everyone. The fact that they developed is certainly wonderful, BUT:
    1. Armor does not protect the crew absolutely.
    2. The armor is solid - if replacement is necessary - you have to change the whole sheet (could be made with plates)
    3. The armor is directly on the main one (it seems to me that if made in the form of a screen at a short distance it would give it an anti-cumulative effect).
    1. Sma11
      Sma11 11 March 2014 09: 08
      +3
      BTR-4 is a floating armored combat vehicle

      Strange, why does he have mounted hydraulic motors? They can shoot during a battle. Or do oars come with the equipment?

      Means of communication

      P-173M radio station
      radio receiver R-173ПМ
      P-163-50K radio station
      P-163-KP radio
      radio station P-159
      radio station “Severok-K”
      equipment for cryptographic protection of speech and documentary information
      telephone set TA-57-U
      telephone coil TK-2


      But from this equipment I just wassat
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      2. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 11 March 2014 11: 20
        0
        And what about the TA-57 you have. Wonderful thing.
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    3. avt
      avt 11 March 2014 09: 12
      +1
      Quote: kotdavin4i
      The fact that they developed is certainly wonderful, BUT:

      What is No. Redesigning the BTR-80 with an aft landing, nothing more. What is the meaning of it? Our modernization of the 80th according to the criterion "cost - efficiency" is better, but this device does not pull on a new generation car. The "Rostok" was more impressive. Only for export to "hot countries", but the quality of production with the loss of production culture gives a hell of a hike know yourself.
  10. pensioner
    pensioner 11 March 2014 08: 45
    +5
    In Ukraine, made a new version of the BTR-4
    It’s good to be an armored personnel carrier: where you deployed, there you shoot. Conscience does not torment ...
  11. mountain
    mountain 11 March 2014 08: 55
    +1
    Stagnation in politics, stagnation in industry, stagnation in the minds.
  12. Megatron
    Megatron 11 March 2014 08: 55
    +1
    Very tall, how much does the tower weigh? His center of gravity is high. I'm afraid it will be clumsy. And the armor is somehow "strange" ...
  13. zeleznijdorojnik
    zeleznijdorojnik 11 March 2014 08: 56
    +1
    What they do not like BTR-80,82? Well, they came up with this miracle, but this deadlock branch-shape of the case did not leave much of the 70s, respectively, from the BTR-60, which is 60 years old by lunchtime. It’s necessary to reconsider the concept altogether — to lower the machine, to block the blt from a wide angle, to take out the engine, in general, to work not on crafts on the subject of the USSR military industry — it’s better not to do it, but to come up with something fundamentally new.
  14. Duke
    Duke 11 March 2014 08: 56
    +2
    In September last year, it became known that Iraq decided instead of Ukrainian armored personnel carriers to buy Russian BTR-82, as well as possible options for upgrading the existing fleet of Soviet BTR and BMP, delivered in 1980-s.

    BTR-82A (TTX) Performance characteristics
    Case length 7,65 m, width 2,9 m, height 2,35 m
    Crew 2 + 8 people
    Ground clearance (ground clearance) mm 475
    Wheel formula 8x8
    Tires 13,00-18
    Booking: forehead 10 mm, side 7-9 mm, feed 7 mm, bottom 7 mm, roof 7 mm, tower 7 mm
    Powerplant: 8-cylinder V-shaped KamAZ 740.14-300 diesel engine with 300 hp (220,6 kW) at 2600 rpm
    The maximum speed of 80 km / h on the highway, 10 km / h afloat
    Cruising range 600 km on the highway, 12 hours afloat
    The capacity of the fuel tanks is 300 l main, 120 l - additional
    Armament: 30 mm 2A72 automatic gun, 7,62 mm PKT machine gun
    Ammunition: 2000 rounds in a single tape 7,62 mm, about 300 rounds of 30 mm
    Obstacle to be overcome: wall 0,5 m high, ditch 2,0 m wide, elevation angle 30 °, roll 25 °
  15. zeleznijdorojnik
    zeleznijdorojnik 11 March 2014 08: 57
    +1
    Sorry for the grammar-typos - I write from the phone.
  16. Barakuda
    Barakuda 11 March 2014 08: 57
    +1
    It has been manufactured for a long time. Iraq rejected because of the cannons. They turned it back, they shot the shooting for the Iraqis, he saw it. They beat it right and returned it back. Their hands are growing from the wrong place.
    1. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 11 March 2014 08: 59
      +1
      And cracks in the welds? Photo upload?
      1. Barakuda
        Barakuda 11 March 2014 09: 11
        0
        Come on, it won’t be worse.
        1. zeleznijdorojnik
          zeleznijdorojnik 11 March 2014 10: 43
          0
          http://topwar.ru/38038-zloklyucheniya-ukrainskih-btrov-v-irake.html это ссылка на статью про трещины, фото попробую прикрепить, но с телефона это сложно.
        2. zeleznijdorojnik
          zeleznijdorojnik 11 March 2014 10: 44
          0
          Here they are, darlings.
          1. Argon
            Argon 11 March 2014 11: 49
            -1
            This defect is most likely not characteristic of the armored personnel carrier (its design), but of the armor, apparently the production technology was violated. In general, I think the BTR-4 is more promising than Russian modernization of the 80s
  17. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 11 March 2014 09: 00
    +13
    In addition to new technology, the Ukrainian authorities adopted a new form
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 11 March 2014 09: 37
      0
      Quote: Ruswolf
      In addition to new technology, the Ukrainian authorities adopted a new form

      Laughter, but laughter ...
      Law on the National Guard of Ukraine may be introduced in the Rada on Tuesday
      "Tomorrow, the law on the National Guard of Ukraine will be submitted to parliament," Avakov wrote on his Facebook page. According to him, the tasks of this structure, which will include 20 thousand people, will be to protect the borders and civil order in the country.

      RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/world/20140311/998928667.html#ixzz2vdLmGYRN
    2. rugor
      rugor 11 March 2014 10: 01
      0
      I have seen helmets somewhere like this. Like in films about the great Russian.
  18. fisherman
    fisherman 11 March 2014 09: 27
    +1
    It’s probably time to somehow single out this region of Ukraine, calling it New Russia or just Southeastern Ukraine, because people who are capable of creativity and creation, and not fascist thugs, live here.
  19. schizophrenic
    schizophrenic 11 March 2014 09: 30
    +1
    As I see the digger stuck, you can dig faster. laughing
    1. pv1005
      pv1005 11 March 2014 10: 02
      0
      This is where did you see the digger on it? This is a wave-reflecting shield.
      1. schizophrenic
        schizophrenic 11 March 2014 10: 21
        0
        Quote: pv1005
        This is a reflective shield

        A wave-reflecting shield from the top stands and from the bottom it resembles a digger like in tanks.
        Damn wrong let them finish. laughing
        1. schizophrenic
          schizophrenic 11 March 2014 13: 46
          0
          Quote: schizophrenic
          Damn wrong let them finish

          In total, there are two mounts left to add. wassat
  20. sazhka4
    sazhka4 11 March 2014 09: 38
    0
    This line is a bit confusing ..
    >> BTR-4 is a 4x4 amphibious combat armored vehicle <
    Do you set wheels every other time?
    1. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 11 March 2014 10: 37
      0
      I didn’t pay attention, by the way. In our armored personnel carriers the formula is 8 × 8, here, apparently, either the author laughed, had in mind 4 leading bridges, or in this miracle, really, out of 4 bridges leading only 2, which is unlikely.
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 11 March 2014 11: 22
        0
        or in this miracle, indeed, of 4 bridges leading only 2, which is unlikely.
        In this case, the wheel formula is written like this: 8 X 4 - a total of 8 wheels, 4 leading. There is an obvious typo. Or the illiteracy of the author.
    2. Sochi
      Sochi 11 March 2014 10: 51
      0
      Four leading four rowing ...
    3. techmesh
      techmesh 11 March 2014 16: 51
      0
      Quote: sazhka4
      This line is a bit confusing ..
      >> BTR-4 is a 4x4 amphibious combat armored vehicle <
      Do you set wheels every other time?


      Most likely a typo. For information. In addition to the wheel formula, there is also an axial formula. In this case, the 4x4 axial formula, and the wheel will be 8x8.
  21. VengefulRat
    VengefulRat 11 March 2014 09: 44
    0
    And nat. the right sector will become the guard? The Nazis on the protection of borders and order, the guys got to the official status.
    1. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 11 March 2014 10: 41
      0
      National Guard, the same SS-Soviets.
  22. GromTomsk
    GromTomsk 11 March 2014 09: 55
    +3
    Funny, presented the picture:
    their batr comes in a standard armored body kit, and suddenly a sudden clash ... The crew commander yells: landing, to the car, install additional armor !!! And the landing, spitting on shelling, busily collects the puzzle))))
  23. Sochi
    Sochi 11 March 2014 10: 46
    0
    I am not an expert ... but for some reason it seems to me that they have gone down the path of deterioration, the hull contours in the lower part have become clearly "box-shaped" - which will obviously slow it down in the water. Open propellers - the risk of damage has increased not only in combat conditions. Observation devices for the driver and commander - except for the windshield - are not seen. Attached armor - increasing the center of gravity for floating vehicles ... a straight path from floating to sinking.
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 11 March 2014 11: 33
      0
      Its main purpose is for military-police operations as part of the peacekeeping contingent.
      Since it was taken into account, the fact that 80 is not possible to use fully in urban environments, where it became a good target.
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  24. Cristall
    Cristall 11 March 2014 10: 53
    0
    Yes, a normal car, maybe the BTR 4-budget option. For it is more expensive than three.
    The three are normal rivals 82. Anyway, the APU buys few new ones, and Kharkov works for export like everyone else.
  25. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 11 March 2014 11: 27
    0
    Are the glasses too big for an armored personnel carrier? Or is it a transport for hunting?
  26. svp67
    svp67 11 March 2014 12: 34
    0
    Did they weld additional sheets of normal armor on top of the "Iraqi" "cracked" hulls? Well, that's also a way out, maybe they will sell it or send it to equip their army ...
  27. Antibrim
    Antibrim 11 March 2014 12: 46
    0
    I am surprised that they work. we would have Kharkov with his tank school. definitely would not be superfluous.
  28. Tyundey
    Tyundey 11 March 2014 13: 27
    +1
    Pay attention to the lack of side hatches. It turns out that loading and unloading of infantry occurs through the rear doors (or through hatches in the roof of the troop compartment). This is not good, because when landing (loading) under fire, fighters do not have the opportunity to choose the safe side - i.e. projection closed for shelling. It is impossible to climb onto the BTR-4 from the side, there are no handrails. Fighters will not be able to ride on the armor. Compare with the 80-koy - it turns out just an armored four-wheel drive bus with a gun.
    1. Ruswolf
      Ruswolf 11 March 2014 17: 49
      0
      Alexey!
      This is a modular technique and is subject to various modifications to order, taking into account customer requirements and application conditions.
      If interested, see the link:
      http://russianarms.mybb.ru/viewtopic.php?id=1168
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  29. kelevra
    kelevra 11 March 2014 18: 17
    0
    Excuse me, anyone else besides me thinks that Ukraine has more important things to do than develop new armored personnel carriers! Now it’s important to enlist the support of the army and to make it more confident, it will help control possible unrest organized by the right sector. settle down, think about new armored personnel carriers, tanks, planes!