Double standards of Kiev: that on the Maidan - heroism, in Donetsk - separatism

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Double standards of Kiev: that on the Maidan - heroism, in Donetsk - separatismIn the Lviv region today, militants of the Right Sector movement disrupted the presentation of a new regional prosecutor. They entered the building of the regional prosecutor's office and forced the official to leave. Nationalists called the incident lustration and explained that the prosecutor should not intercede for work, because they, militants, have doubts about his honesty. But for some reason, the residents of the Donetsk region are denied new Kiev authorities the right to their own opinion about the appointees sent. The tension there reached a peak when the special forces detained and brought the people's governor Pavel Gubarev to Kiev. They want to judge him for the same, for which the protesters of the Maidan were declared freedom fighters. The story of the troubled Donetsk.

Spetsnaz security service of Ukraine "Alpha" in a hurry. Pavel Gubarev handcuffed. He does not have time to get acquainted with the court order, unsuccessfully demands to wait for his lawyer. The arrest is watched live by the wife of the people's governor. They talked on Skype. Catherine is sure: this is not the end of the struggle.

"I will stand in my husband's place and fight," she says.

Gubarev is being taken to an unknown destination in a car with Kiev numbers. Detained for testimony and his close associates. In the evening news about the arrest of the leader of the Donbas people's militia collects several hundred citizens from the local administration of the SBU.

Representatives of the department to the people do not go. Inside are only official defenders of the people's governor. “Now we are waiting, we ask that the ombudsman be launched from us there, to make sure that he was not beaten, tortured, not subjected to repression, so that everything is legal!”, Say the lawyers.

The leader of the national militia is immediately accused of three articles: separatism, the seizure of buildings and, finally, an attempt to overthrow the government. The policy of double standards in action. For the same deeds in Kiev give heroic ranks to activists of the Maidan. In Donetsk, those who disagree with the regime are imprisoned. Without the right to meet with a lawyer.

“They didn’t allow us to see Pavel. We don’t know where he is,” Gubareva’s lawyer, Elena Pryadko, wonders.

Against the peaceful picket of supporters of Gubarev, the authorities abandoned the police special forces. The branch of Donetsk "Berkut" receives an order to act tough and disperse the crowd. Immediately at the building of the SBU appear auto-bunkers with the police. Taking in the ring, activists, one by one and groups driven into special buses.

After half an hour the situation is changing. Special forces soldiers do not want to go against the people. Detainees released from avtozak. Later it turned out - the police refused to beat their fellow countrymen. At their base, they laid down weapon, stating that they will no longer be an instrument of political terror of the Kiev authorities.
“The government, which I do not consider to be legitimate now, it has come to power on the corpses. We do not want to take any part in political wars, we are called to protect public order, and we will stop there, we will not listen to anyone, we will adhere to the law , - the fighter of "Golden eagle" Vitaly claims.

Having learned of this decision of the special forces officers, the activists of the patriotic forces of Donetsk arrived at the location of their unit. Veterans of this unit came with posters in support of the special forces decision.

“Oh! It hurts and it hurts that the current government gives such criminal orders. I know that they refused to carry out the criminal order, and the people are with them!”, Says the former commander of the special unit Berkut in Donetsk Vladislav Domrambekov.

Today, information was confirmed that the leader of the national militia Pavel Gubarev was taken to Kiev. This was done specifically to bring down the heat in the center of Donbass. Gubarev said that the struggle continues. And after that he was taken away in an unknown direction.

Political repressions of the new Kiev administration in Donetsk are only heating up the situation. The assurances of the governor-oligarch Taruta that he controls the situation in the region are not confirmed by anything.

As well as the main thing - who will "silence" the voices of the disgruntled residents of Donbass, the proteges of the Maidan are not clear. One cannot count on the absolute subordination of local security forces to the power of oligarchs in this region. Meanwhile, tomorrow, on Lenin Square, in the center of Donetsk, there will be a rally of thousands of opponents of the new government. Fighters of the "Berkut", they said - they are not going to disperse the peaceful demonstrators.
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  1. +5
    8 March 2014 04: 53
    The situation is heating up, perhaps the refusal of the "Berkut" to act against the protesters will lead to the growth of protests in the east of Ukraine against Kiev. Let's see what happens next, whether there will be 100.000 rallies or not.
    1. mnbv199
      +1
      8 March 2014 06: 10
      Information war

      I would like to share with the participants of our forum ideas about participation in a true "Information War" in Ukraine.
      Each of us can find on the Internet for ourselves 2 sites with Ukrainian forums, which discuss the political situation in Ukraine. In these forums, every day, you need to post your comments about the danger that threatens Ukraine. You can also show all the disadvantages of the policy pursued by the Kiev junta, which staged a coup.
      Whoever has the time, you can argue with opponents and try to prove your point. For those who have little time, it will be enough to post truthful videos, photos, links to articles on these forums that confirm your correctness in this matter. Also on these forums, you can post copies of the comments of the participants in our forum indicating the address of our site (http://topwar.ru/news/). Let your messages in one visit to the Ukrainian forum will be few, but you need to write about it every day.
      The policy pursued by Kiev is based on lies spread by the Ukrainian media. Media lies are the weakest link in the management of the Ukrainian state. If we all make an effort to knock this link out of Ukraine’s administration, then we have a chance, if not to win, then at least entice most people to our side.
      From the media, we see that eastern Ukraine is fighting for its rights, but the central and western parts of Ukraine have not yet realized their danger. Therefore, we should wage an "information war" on the forums of these parts of Ukraine.
      This call for an "information war" can be extended to other Russian forums as well. I think that many patriots of our Motherland will support this idea.
      I would also like to contact the administration of our site. What if you create a separate blog "Information War", which will be constantly in the news feed. In this blog, we are forum members, we will exchange links to videos, photos, articles, websites, etc. necessary for us to conduct this "war".

      A lot of words in the world,
      Like snowflakes in winter.
      But take, for example, these:
      The word "I" and the word "We."
      "I" in the world is lonely,
      In the "I" is not very much good.
      One or one
      It’s hard to cope with trouble.
      The word “We” is stronger than “I”.
      We are a family and we are friends.
      We are a people, and we are one.
      Together we are invincible!
      (V.Orlov)

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      1. DMB-78
        +3
        8 March 2014 06: 15
        Quote: mnbv199
        What if you create a separate blog "Information War", which will be constantly in the news feed. In this blog, we are forum members, we will exchange links to videos, photos, articles, websites, etc. necessary for us to conduct this "war".

        I'm all for it!
        1. +5
          8 March 2014 07: 55
          Quote: Later it turns out - the police refused to beat their countrymen. At their base, they laid down their arms, saying that they would no longer be an instrument of political terror of the Kiev authorities. It was necessary not to debug the weapon, but to tear it against the one who is trying to use their hands against the people with their hands. Political repressions of the new Kiev administration in Donetsk are only heating up the situation. The assurances of the governor-oligarch Taruta that he controls the situation in the region are not confirmed by anything. This appointee, a vassal of the Maidanutyh, is also to be arrested and taken to an unknown destination, as they did to Gubarev. And do the same with everything that follows ...
          1. Hudo
            +2
            8 March 2014 08: 38
            Quote: Tersky
            The political repressions of the new Kiev administration in Donetsk are only heating up the situation. The assurances of the governor-oligarch Taruta that he controls the situation in the region are not confirmed by anything. This appointee, a vassal of the Maidanutyh, is also to be arrested and taken to an unknown destination, as they did to Gubarev. And do the same with everyone else.


            From the Donbass.
            One gets, at least for me personally, the feeling that the Donbass plays the same role in the Crimean events as the battalions thrown into the battle for the Dnieper to mislead the enemy about the direction of concentration of efforts when taking Kiev. ("The battalions are asking for fire").
  2. +7
    8 March 2014 05: 01
    If Donetsk, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk and Odessa want to bark on a Galician mov and pray for Bandera, Shukhevych and other evil spirits, then they will continue to bay unhappily in quiet. And if they want to be free from banderlogs and other Galician evil spirits should act like the Crimea.
    1. +5
      8 March 2014 07: 00
      Russia needs to help the South-East of Ukraine in the fight against bandits, Bandera, foreign mercenaries.
      Help is not by military force, God forbid, to come to this, it is necessary to help pro-Russian activists organize their activities in rebuff to Bandera, including financial resources, the work of the media, and possibly weapons to defend against an armed enemy.
      In confrontation with foreign mercenaries, bandits and terrorists, like Alexander the White and Yarosh, the help of the Russian special services is needed.
      If you do not repulse Bandera now, they will threaten Russia. Already, threats are being voiced to activists and governors of Russian regions adjacent to the east of Ukraine.
      In addition to slogans and rallies on the part of Russia, regarding the South-East of Ukraine, concrete help is needed for the people to organize a rebuff to Bandera, terrorists and foreign mercenaries.
  3. DMB-78
    +10
    8 March 2014 05: 02
    impostors in power elevated lawlessness to the rank of law. wherever you look, there are double standards all around. and why be surprised, good teachers from washington. but the students have already surpassed the teachers.
    1. +8
      8 March 2014 06: 35
      Quote: DMB-78
      impostors in power elevated lawlessness to the rank of law. wherever you look, there are double standards all around. and why be surprised, good teachers from washington. but the students have already surpassed the teachers.

      But on the other hand, they tarnished their reputation with this arrest, gave Putin one more trump card, and instead of intimidation, they may well achieve the rallying of their opponents. A stupid act is shorter - let them continue to make such mistakes, they will fall faster. Yes

      The Russian Foreign Ministry must play this card to the fullest - violation of human rights, totalitarianism, political terror, etc.
      The main thing is not to hesitate with the reaction.
      1. DMB-78
        +6
        8 March 2014 06: 45
        Quote: And Us Rat
        gave Putin another hand

        Yes, they have already given him so many trump cards .... not enough for one batch laughing
      2. +2
        8 March 2014 10: 52
        Oh!
        Quote: And Us Rat
        The Russian Foreign Ministry must play this card to the fullest - violation of human rights, totalitarianism, political terror, etc.

        - I see some naivety in this. Is it possible to count on arguments to conscience, if the opponents have moral yodas. Here's how to assess the EU’s requirements for Russia to recognize the junta in Kiev as legitimate authority? They themselves tore their Constitution to shreds, violated all norms and all treaties! At the same time, in other cities, the peaceful expression of the will of citizens is called a crime, and Sasha’s beaten is not even scolded.
        "A stupid act is shorter - let them continue to make such mistakes, they will fall faster."- I agree, but it is bitter to see such a fall of fellow tribesmen (former).
        1. +2
          8 March 2014 12: 22
          Quote: Kite
          - I see some naivety in this.

          This is not naivety, these are generally accepted rules of the game, de facto - you can violate human rights three times, but you must declare their protection in order to legitimize your actions and deligitize your opponent’s actions, even if he’s at least three times holy.
          These are tools for controlling subordinate regimes, no more, everyone knows this, but everyone follows the rules, because the first who breaks the rules will open the Pandora’s box, this is equivalent to using nuclear weapons in the information field, if you start, you won’t stop the process.
          These "naive" rules are actually a very powerful fuse and leverage. Breaking them down is like shouting publicly - "Rob, Rape, Kill - now you can" stop

          The least that will happen is that all the regimes controlled by the USA and Russia will break loose and drown in genocides, civil strife and arbitrary coups and revolutions. Because overnight the legitimacy of calls for order and actions aimed at maintaining order will collapse. Disputes will begin to be resolved by wars, without the slightest regard for the "suffering of the civilian population", etc.
          1. 0
            8 March 2014 23: 14
            Quote: And Us Rat
            This is not naivety, these are generally accepted rules of the game, de facto - you can violate human rights three times, but you must declare their protection in order to legitimize their actions
            - by your own interpretation of events? (!) We do not know who needs it? Don't know who is playing, changing the rules during this "game"? With video documents we hope to awaken the conscience of the "Pandora's box" playing with a lid?
  4. +7
    8 March 2014 05: 04
    Quote: Sakhalininets
    If Donetsk, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk and Odessa want to bark on a Galician mov and pray for Bandera, Shushkevich and other evil spirits, then they will continue to displease quietly. And if they want to be free from banderlogs and other Galician evil spirits should act like the Crimea.


    They simply will not be allowed to do this, so the NOVOFURRER requires weapons, and turn him on. Puppeteers will try.
  5. DMB-78
    +5
    8 March 2014 05: 08
    Sorry, if not in the subject, but it is too relevant.
  6. +5
    8 March 2014 05: 11
    Quote: article
    After half an hour, the situation is changing. Special forces soldiers do not want to go against the people. Detainees released from autopark. Later it turns out - militiamen refused to beat their countrymen. At their base, they laid down their arms, stating that they will no longer be an instrument of political terror of the Kiev authorities.

    Honor and glory to them! But guys, why lay down weapons? The new power will not come to you with flowers. And it will begin to choke one by one. But "Berkut" can become the backbone of resistance to the Maydaun theater of the absurd.
  7. +7
    8 March 2014 05: 14
    Smiled .... smile
  8. Kodar 75
    +5
    8 March 2014 05: 14
    Hang on Donbass !!! RUSSIA WITH YOU !!!
  9. +4
    8 March 2014 05: 22
    Double standards - all according to Amer’s testament. And to strangle dissidents and all who are against the new government is the only way out of the Kiev junta. They should not be allowed to have a strong and charismatic leader in the southeast. Worse, in an attempt to consolidate its power, this junta can do anything.
    1. DMB-78
      +2
      8 March 2014 05: 33
      Quote: VengefulRat
      trying to consolidate its power, this junta can do anything.

      so much further. so on the Maidan how much blood was shed
      1. +4
        8 March 2014 05: 45
        Quote: DMB-78
        Quote: VengefulRat
        trying to consolidate its power, this junta can do anything.

        so much further. so on the Maidan how much blood was shed

        Do you think this blood is enough for them? It seems to me that no. No wonder the right sector requires a weapon. Yes, and the Crimean referendum, they also need to disrupt. They can go for any provocation. Of course I would like to be mistaken, but seeing who came to power there ...
        1. DMB-78
          +2
          8 March 2014 06: 07
          Quote: VengefulRat
          Do you think this blood is enough for them?

          of course not. but here it is necessary to anticipate the bloodshed of GDP
  10. +4
    8 March 2014 05: 40
    Yes, the enemy is no longer knocking on the house; he is already in it.
  11. +1
    8 March 2014 08: 32
    They would have arrested Muzychko with the same speed, who would have threatened the hero of the Maidan openly and concurrently with the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
    1. DMB-78
      0
      8 March 2014 08: 39
      Quote: pv1005
      who no less openly threatened the hero of the Maidan and, concurrently, the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, was more independent.

      this is a family disassembly laughing
  12. +8
    8 March 2014 08: 42
    Not a legitimate prosecutor, then another lustration
    What "Right Sector" knows smart words
    Castration in the minds of the Kiev "authorities"
    On go. Go go., But ambition to hr.
    1. DMB-78
      0
      8 March 2014 09: 19
      Quote: major071
      What "Right Sector" knows smart words

      cheat sheets in pockets
  13. +1
    8 March 2014 09: 22
    Quote: major071
    Castration in the minds of the Kiev "authorities"

    And the current type of Maidan Kiev government is no longer the same legitimate. Maidan deprived him of confidence!
    I wonder who lasts longer afloat?
    If there is no consensus of course.
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  15. kelevra
    0
    8 March 2014 11: 13
    Double standards work always and everywhere.
  16. Alexander D.
    -2
    8 March 2014 13: 15
    Of course separatism! I have been living in Donetsk for 30 years, and this was the first time I saw this h.o.l.oh.u. on TV 2 weeks ago. Dear Russians, before drawing conclusions about Ukraine, take more interest in it from alternative sources.
    1. Alexander D.
      -1
      8 March 2014 13: 16
      Who didn’t notice, this is a miracle-R.A.Z.Z.E.B.U.do
  17. 0
    9 March 2014 00: 22
    Were there really naive people who thought it would be different?
  18. MiruMir
    0
    10 March 2014 22: 32
    Quote: Kodar75
    Hang on Donbass !!! RUSSIA WITH YOU !!!

    Quote: VengefulRat
    Double standards - all according to Amer’s testament. And to strangle dissidents and all who are against the new government is the only way out of the Kiev junta. They should not be allowed to have a strong and charismatic leader in the southeast. Worse, in an attempt to consolidate its power, this junta can do anything.

    Are you talking about a "strong and charismatic leader" who is third from the left in the bottom row?


    Larger:

    And what kind of badge on the fence and on the sleeve, do you still remember or explain?