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Presidential Election-2014: start or false start

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Presidential Election-2014: start or false startPresidential election campaign has started. A new majority in the Verkhovna Rada called early elections for 25 in May 2014. Applicants can already apply to the Central Election Commission. And 30 March registration will end. Then we will find out the full list of participants in the race. But now the “unnatural selection” has begun: some are intimidated (arson of the house of KPU leader Petro Symonenko), others are “bathed” in compromising material. The key point - who will put the West and Russia. For Ukraine, as pawns in a geopolitical war, this is important ...


Threats unwanted


The specifics of the post-Maidan election campaign are that the campaign videos and the buckwheat rations no longer work. The country is on the verge of civil war. And with the events in the Crimea - not only civil. On the streets, people walk with guns. Uncontrolled gangs under various brands (local “Self-defense”, “People’s Patrols”, etc.) seize administrative buildings, stop business operations, unload transit vehicles, burn and rob houses of politicians. And all this in conditions of complete impunity, because the police fell into a stupor and continues to be there, despite the appointment of the new leadership. Especially at the level of grassroots structures.

However, despite the randomness of land squatting, which affects workers of various organizations, ranging from the management of the South-Western Railway and ending with the newspaper Uryadoviy Kuryar, the targeted nature of the pressure can be traced very clearly.

The main blow is not aimed at the regionals, who, apparently, are not considered to be serious rivals due to their organizational weakening and complete demoralization. And the communists.

In a short time, the house of the son of Pyotr Simonenko was hacked and burned, where Pyotr Nikolayevich once lived with his wife, journalist Oksana Vashchenko, and two young children. At the same time, before burning down the house with all its contents, selected TV channels were launched there, showing all the details of the interior: from the piano (white) to the toilet bowl (not gold).

Earlier in Kiev, Rostislav Vasilko, the first secretary of the Lviv city committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine, was severely beaten. Attacked subjected to the members of the Communist Party faction. Deputies and their families are threatened in different forms. And all this against the background of attempts to legally ban the Communist Party.

Why exactly KPU has received increased attention? The answer is obvious. If Pyotr Simonenko goes to the polls, his main ally will be ... the socio-economic situation in the country. Given the current state of affairs, as well as the promise of the new Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk to carry out reforms according to the plan outlined by the IMF, at the time of the election, the country will just reach the pen, and the common people will be on the verge of a social explosion.

Political fauna

In addition, the oligarchs, who led their people into the government, and independent political players fear that Russia, due to the absence of other real candidates not from the opposition, can put on Simonenko.

Indeed, in the center is really emptiness. Kharkiv Mayor Mikhail Dobkin as a presidential candidate is not serious. The new face of the Party of Regions, Sergei Tigipko, has lost the structure of "Strong Ukraine" and can hardly rely on frightened regionals. Of course, he will go to the polls. Again. And lose again.

It’s ridiculous to talk about independent candidates in the conditions of “paramilitary status”. Small fry type ex-minister of social policy Natalia Korolevskaya (considered the creature of the head of the Party of Regions faction Alexander Efremova) or scandalous “radical with forks” Oleg Lyashko will only add confusion to the overall picture.

As for the right flank, there will be there, as in the subway at rush hour. Vitali Klitschko (who did not go to the government so as not to stumble over unpopular decisions) and Yulia Tymoshenko (who was stopped by compromising about the fun pastime of her daughter in Rome during the execution of Maidan) have already declared their ambitions.

Freedom leader Oleg Tyagnibok and Right Sector leader Dmitry Yarosh are thinking about participating in the race. And if they go, they will “butt” on the same electoral field.

Petro Poroshenko, who has no structures for elections, but many ambitions, and, perhaps, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, will appear there. If the reforms do not finally finish it, and so weak rating.

Everyone is waiting on whom the West will bet. But the West is changing sympathies. For example, if before Angela Markel definitely put on Tymoshenko, the latest publication in her favorite newspaper Die Welt changes everything. Yulia Vladimirovna was severely called "a copy of Yanukovich, but with a scythe." A favorite of Germany (the most influential state of the EU) is clearly becoming Klitschko. At the same time, the recent meetings of Tymoshenko with senior American dignitaries suggest that she might be elected in Washington.

This is what the oligarchs crave least of all with whom, being prime minister, she led an “invisible battle”: re-privatization, gas confiscation and so on. And, rather, put on Yatsenyuk or Klitschko than Tymoshenko. Poroshenko’s additional difficulties will create this: money bags do not like when one of them rushes forward.

The question arises: is there at least one real candidate in this diversity of political "fauna", whose chances are obviously greater than that of others? Apparently, no. Is there a possibility that in such a situation elections may not take place at all? Yes. And the closer to May, the likelihood of such a denouement grows ...
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  1. Name
    Name 9 March 2014 08: 25
    +13
    In the light of recent days in the East of Ukraine, the race as such will not take place ...yarosh will take the post (even Yulia will not stand next to him, not to mention the other "applicants"),- not by voting, so by force.And the EU will be terrified of what they gave rise to ...
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 9 March 2014 08: 49
      +5
      No, they won’t give Yarosh. The West will merge it as soon as the situation in Ukraine settles down. The right sector will again be driven underground until the next Maidan
      1. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 9 March 2014 09: 58
        +4
        Quote: MainBeam
        No, they won’t give Yarosh. The West will merge it as soon as the situation in Ukraine settles down

        I doubt that the United States has such leverage to remove Yarosh. It is not sad, but his views are supported by the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of western Ukraine ... Yes, and for that they arranged the Maidan, the United States needs a full-scale war in eastern Europe ....
        1. Duke
          Duke 9 March 2014 10: 11
          +2
          I doubt that the United States has such leverage to remove Yarosh.

          I agree with you, Yarosh is real and it's scary.
        2. APASUS
          APASUS 9 March 2014 10: 30
          +2
          Quote: ziqzaq
          I doubt that the United States has such leverage to remove Yarosh. It is not sad, but his views are supported by the vast majority of residents of western Ukraine ...

          Yarosh is put on the international wanted list by Russia, everything is very simple. He will go for a ride to Lisbon for the next instruction, and they will take him to the airport. But this is only if the United States wants to show us its goodwill and intentions for a peaceful resolution of the issue.
          And now, while the United States has threatened to break deep relations, no more, no less!
          And now there is no real candidate in Ukraine! Everyone, to one degree or another, has been smeared with ties to oligarchs against whom the people are so propagandistic.
          Elections are likely to confirm the gulf between the west and southeast and de facto lead to a split in the country. There is no leverage for this power other than shedding rivers of blood.
          At 17, the Bolsheviks began to issue their decrees and the first of them was about PEACE and EARTH, Ukraine did not go this way. You see, they don’t like the Russian language, the passport is not the same, and the whole set of anti-Russian sentiments is in a country where almost half speaks Russian
      2. vo.dum
        vo.dum 9 March 2014 10: 28
        +2
        He will not be able to do this ... especially if Yarosh wedges himself into the Moscow region with his militants. And the elections must be openly said ... illegitimate until the country has a vertical line of law enforcement agencies ... and someone more equal before the laws .... about this must be clearly stated ... that it’s come to us, we don’t recognize such elections .... and first we would have to elect a new parliament ... and it would be nice to control the situation in the country ... although the military are there .... shorter than cocoa there in politics and governance ...
      3. vlum
        vlum 9 March 2014 11: 25
        +2
        Yes, there is no one to drive him underground - all power and others are demoralized just to the extent that they are not enough for an organized power confrontation.
        But there are different estimates of the size of the Right Sector, and there from several thousand to 20 thousand. Moreover, it is in the Right Sector that the map of the armed struggle against the interventionists is played out ...
        Yes, there is a detailed article:
        http://politikus.ru/events/14331-tango-smerti-2.html
    2. Sibiryak
      Sibiryak 9 March 2014 09: 30
      +1
      Quote: name
      And the EU will be terrified of what they gave rise to ...

      I doubt very much that it will be so, it’s just that all this nonsense will again be sent east to US and we will have to rake up all this pile of manure again! In addition, only the Poles can get a slide, but as always they will turn on the tenth speed and hide around the corner.
      1. Egoza
        9 March 2014 09: 51
        +7
        Quote: Sibiryak
        only the Poles can slip, but as always they will turn on the tenth speed and hide around the corner.

        Already!!!
        "The Polish authorities announced the evacuation of the staff of the Polish consulate in Sevastopol. Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski tweeted this on March 8. The minister explained that Warsaw was reluctant to take such measures. They are caused by the tense situation that" the Russian military continues to create. "
        What exactly Poland is concerned about in Sevastopol is not specified.
        Earlier, the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs strongly recommended that its citizens refuse to travel to the southern and eastern regions of Ukraine. As explained in the department, the situation there is developing rapidly and unpredictably. " laughing
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 9 March 2014 10: 10
          +5
          Quote: Egoza
          "The Polish authorities announced the evacuation of the staff of the Polish consulate in Sevastopol.
          This training ..... attacks on the Crimea, Transdniestria, too, blocked.
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          2. siberalt
            siberalt 9 March 2014 10: 59
            +1
            If the PMR blocks Kiev, it creates the same situation as the United States with Crimea and South-East.
            1. bomg.77
              bomg.77 9 March 2014 11: 27
              0
              Quote: siberalt
              If the PMR blocks Kiev, it creates the same situation as the USA with Crimea and South
              And what is the USA blocking CRIMEA?
              1. vlum
                vlum 9 March 2014 11: 56
                +1
                at least UNIAN wrote about the availability своих roadblocks to the Crimea.

                Maybe they lie, calling their Crimean self-defense checkpoints their own, but they write about it as the achievement of Kiev Ukraine.
          3. Sid.74
            Sid.74 9 March 2014 11: 11
            +1
            Quote: bomg.77
            Quote: Egoza
            "The Polish authorities announced the evacuation of the staff of the Polish consulate in Sevastopol.
            This training ..... attacks on the Crimea, Transdniestria, too, blocked.

            Alex, hi It seems to me that this is a political step, diplomatic trolling, you need to be at least an idiot to push to the Crimea! Although the hell knows!
            1. bomg.77
              bomg.77 9 March 2014 11: 20
              +3
              Quote: Sid.74
              Quote: bomg.77
              Quote: Egoza
              "The Polish authorities announced the evacuation of the staff of the Polish consulate in Sevastopol.
              This training ..... attacks on the Crimea, Transdniestria, too, blocked.

              Alex, hi It seems to me that this is a political step, diplomatic trolling, you need to be at least an idiot to push to the Crimea! Although the hell knows!
              Eugene may be the way you say it! Like we are setting up a consulate, and you yourself think out in Russia what we are doing it for. Maybe they want to block ours on the peninsula, but I’m sure of one thing, there will be a bloody provocation sad I already wrote about this, Odessa is the most likely city for this. Anything can be!
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 9 March 2014 11: 36
                +2
                Quote: bomg.77
                But in one thing I’m sure there will be blood.

                There are such fears! The question is what for? What will they achieve with this !?
                Settle Crimea Svidomo Raguli !!!
                The only thing is just to make the Ukrainians angry against the Russians! Evil and loyal people are easier to manage in fear! There are no other political meanings! And I really hope Alex that you are mistaken, you practically predicted blood in Kiev! hi
                Regarding Donetsk, Odessa, Kharkov, everything can be! I’m anxious to read the news! Won MANPADS disappeared altogether ..., in whose hands they now know only God!
                1. bomg.77
                  bomg.77 9 March 2014 11: 55
                  +1
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  There are such fears! The question is what for? What will they achieve with this !?
                  Russian war with Russian than not a dream of the West. Plus, we will become enemies for many years. Now, it can still break out in Azerbaijan (Karabakh) and we will have to keep the front in three directions: Syria, Ukraine, Karabakh.
                  they are a lot of it, they will turn the whole world against Russia, and this is not enough!

                  Quote: Sid.74
                  Settle Crimea Svidomo Raguli !!!
                  I think there will be no Raguli living there! On this score I think differently, but I do not want to raise this topic
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  ! And I really hope Alexey that you are mistaken,
                  I also hope, but the news is not encouraging.
                  1. Sid.74
                    Sid.74 9 March 2014 12: 08
                    +1
                    Quote: bomg.77
                    but the news is not encouraging.

                    Alexey, but not in the know! Where did the columns of Ukrainian soldiers move from Zhytomyr and Lvov? The video was! The only question was where did they go?
                    1. Sid.74
                      Sid.74 9 March 2014 12: 19
                      +2
                      By the way the video on the topic of where the Ukrainian military want to go!
                      1. Lelek
                        Lelek 10 March 2014 13: 27
                        +2
                        Well then there will be a replay of 8.8.8g. Only need to stop in Chop. angry
                    2. bomg.77
                      bomg.77 9 March 2014 13: 27
                      +1
                      Quote: Sid.74
                      Alex and not in the know
                      I can’t say for sure, but according to rumors they’re concentrating on the isthmus! By the way, ours have already mined it. The information is different, but only GS can know for sure.
                2. Cheloveck
                  Cheloveck 10 March 2014 02: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Sid.74
                  There MANPADS disappeared at all ... in whose hands they now know only God!

                  Yes, you quit!
                  Here you don’t need to go to the fortuneteller to say in whose hands they are ...
                  After a while, they will emerge either in Syria, or in Afghanistan, or quietly disappear in North Korea ...
                  And several citizens of "nezalezhnoy" will replenish their accounts in foreign banks.
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  2. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 9 March 2014 08: 55
    +5
    The key point is who the West and Russia will put on.

    The problem is that the West created the system, and the Russian Federation relied on Yanukovych.
    For the West, any blank will do, but at least Klitschko.

    Local oligarchs will move their pawns forward. Some devil jump out of the snuffbox. I think Julia will light up again. But eastern Ukraine will not be allowed to nominate their candidates. Otherwise, the Communists could have won on this wave.

    This is if the situation in Ukraine does not change by then. In memory we keep Crimea.
    1. KG_patriot_last
      KG_patriot_last 9 March 2014 09: 35
      +1
      It makes no difference which of the Westerners comes to power. Especially if they return to the parliamentary system ... The real power there belongs to the Rada. What did you hear about the Party of Regions during the crisis? They don’t have voices there. So Yanukovych merged.
      Politically, it will be beneficial for any Ukrainian to build a career against Moscow. So let them choose at least 25 in May, at least in 10 years - no difference.
    2. major071
      major071 9 March 2014 09: 39
      +9
      Well, who wants to become president?
      Whom will the people "choose" in the end?
      Fushington Puppets? Western bl..b?
      Or maybe there will still be a new turn?
      People, stop sleeping already!
      Big debts are hanging on your neck
      Leads you to the debt hole "Kiev power"!
      And instead of bread there are holey socks ...
  3. AVV
    AVV 9 March 2014 09: 06
    +3
    In general, it’s real, it’s a matter of civil war !!! The East will lose all industrial enterprises, but Bendery’s mrazi have none !!!
    1. Mainbeam
      Mainbeam 9 March 2014 09: 14
      +2
      War will not be allowed. "Russians don't abandon their own."
      More need to fear a quiet redistribution of property, a quiet seizure.

      http://topwar.ru/41091-chuzhoy-kiev.html
      By decree of Turchinov, Igor Kolomoisky, a Jewish criminal oligarch, was appointed the head of the Dnipropetrovsk regional administration, Sergey Taruta, a criminal oligarch, was appointed the head of the Donetsk regional administration. That is, the regions were given to feudal oligarchs for requisitions and tributes in exchange for the stiff suppression of the protest movement in the Southeast.
  4. mabuta
    mabuta 9 March 2014 09: 12
    +7
    It will begin now.http: //topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/163/mxnb713.jpg
  5. svp67
    svp67 9 March 2014 09: 14
    +13
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    1. Slavapom
      Slavapom 9 March 2014 11: 03
      +4
      Respect to the young rabbi.
      As for the presidential election in Ukraine, there will be no elections there. Trite, yesterday in the net the news slipped that on March 09 at the next veche, the entire so-called Cabinet of Ukraine will report to the right sector who, what and how, so that there will still be a circus. And here you are in all seriousness talking about the elections.
  6. psychologist
    psychologist 9 March 2014 09: 16
    +3
    rather, it will be a FALSTART! I think their mess is still ahead !! I would like to see how, without anyone's help, they try to drive Yarosh into a hole, or at least calm down !!
  7. saag
    saag 9 March 2014 09: 17
    +3
    Quote: AVV
    it's about civil war

    who will fight whom? If about one side everything is clear as daylight (Bandera), then about the other is not very good, there is no organization, a single goal and in general my house is on the edge, there will be no civil war, they will simply seize power and that's it. All this came from that Kharkiv congress of regional heads, they chatted up, blurred, there was no courageous one who would come to the podium and throw the idea into the masses, this is a key moment, they came up with loud, but inoperative names like "Southern Front", it would be better for my view "Autonomous regions of Ukraine", the first word is driving
  8. ZU-23
    ZU-23 9 March 2014 09: 19
    +2
    Damn well enough already to scoff at Ukraine, one more beautiful than the other and advisers in the West are absolutely the same.
  9. Same lech
    Same lech 9 March 2014 09: 23
    +4
    Yatsenyuk or Klitschko than Tymoshenko, but in my majority of Ukrainians these people absolutely do not care ..

    Now Ukrainians need to think about how to survive without salaries, pensions, allowances and other payments.
  10. ed65b
    ed65b 9 March 2014 09: 27
    +4
    And what do we need Simonenko? That one. There’s no one to bet on at all. Tsarev can promote, but he has become somehow dull recently.
    1. avt
      avt 9 March 2014 10: 25
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      And what do we need Simonenko? That one more.

      good I would even specify - what kind of "communists" are - banal parasites that suck the Soviet past, turning it into concrete material goods for personal consumption. negative So the statement - “The main blow is not directed at the regionals, who, apparently, are not considered serious rivals at all due to their organizational weakening and complete demoralization. And on the communists. "Complete nonsense, Dreams passed off as reality.
      Quote: ed65b
      Tsarev can promote, but he has become somehow dull recently.

      he has always been like that, worries about the idea of ​​reconciling everyone and everything, as recently Wasserman published an article almost in the spirit of Dopa and Kera. If, again, go to the communists - typical behavior of the Mensheviks in October 1917. Vova Ulyanov, the party nickname Lenin, very clearly and very accurately characterized them - "these" saints ", these political prostitutes." Practically Kamenev and Zinoviev of our time.
  11. Siberian19
    Siberian19 9 March 2014 09: 28
    +3
    as for me there is no such state, therefore, there’s no one to choose, to join Russia and deal with the end, to hold a referendum who is against who for who! as soon as do this ???
  12. saag
    saag 9 March 2014 09: 33
    +1
    Quote: ed65b
    And what do we need Simonenko?

    Well, as if in the past, communism was the main driving force of the struggle against fascism, so this is such a symbol of the current struggle, it’s another matter that the current communists are not ideological fighters, but mainly businessmen, which doesn’t particularly distinguish them from others
  13. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 9 March 2014 09: 36
    +3
    from the Don.
    The main thing is Crimea! And then Aksyonov can become the unwritten leader! Here is the figure that can unite the South-East!
  14. saag
    saag 9 March 2014 09: 41
    +2
    we are waiting for the appearance in Donbass of "Young Guard 2.0" if there is a sense, if not, then no
  15. bomg.77
    bomg.77 9 March 2014 09: 46
    +3
    What elections are there!? Whoever they want and put them up, voting under the strict control of Muzichko! Not for this they took power to give in the elections! There will be a Gauleiter appointment under the guise of elections!
    1. Egoza
      9 March 2014 09: 54
      +1
      Quote: bomg.77
      voting under tight control of Muzychko!

      So after all, Yarosh was soaped up as president !!!!
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      2. bomg.77
        bomg.77 9 March 2014 10: 19
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        So after all, Yarosh was soaped up as president !!!!
        Elena hi Muzichko I do not put on the role of the president, but as the force that will control the votes, Churkin with an automatic, so to speak! For whom he will try, he will tell the West. Here look at Turchinov)) to cheer up
      3. woron333444
        woron333444 9 March 2014 11: 42
        +2
        While Bendera’s in power, they will not give up power, and there will be no elections, they will vote for themselves, and the West will recognize the elections as legitimate
  16. Thompson
    Thompson 9 March 2014 09: 47
    +2
    Quote: MainBeam
    By decree of Turchinov, Igor Kolomoysky was appointed the head of the Dnipropetrovsk regional administration, Jewish crime oligarch, the head of the Donetsk regional administration appointed Sergey Taruta, criminal oligarch.

    So I want to know the nationality of the latter! ...
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 9 March 2014 10: 25
      +2
      Quote: Thompson
      So I want to know the nationality of the latter! ...
      Here's another one pulled up on the Maidan Gus oligarch
    2. woron333444
      woron333444 9 March 2014 11: 43
      +2
      a Jew, these are ordinary Jews will be cut in Ukraine, and he has already paid off
  17. Stinger
    Stinger 9 March 2014 09: 56
    +2
    Whoever opens an account in the states will win. Method worked out. Do not like it, close the bill, arrange Maidan. Networks are arranged. They will sign the EU paper and:
    Ah, caught, bird, wait!
    Do not leave the network;
    We will not part with you For anything in the world!
    ... Release the fly, Untie the nets.
    No, let's not let it, bird, no!
    Stay with us:
    We will give you sweets
    Tea with breadcrumbs.
  18. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 9 March 2014 10: 19
    +5
    VERY PLEASANT MOVEMENT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Elections are as hot a topic as the Maidan. Nobody wants to screw up the future of Ukraine in this situation. The shift in emphasis from the Maidan to the elections makes the Maidan a complete business, i.e. legitimate. The population is straining in the race "for the future" and takes the Maidan for granted.

    Maidan - a coup. Do not forget! And do not forgive!
  19. pts-m
    pts-m 9 March 2014 10: 31
    +2
    whoever in Ukraine won but the squabble between them will be long and on the fly. You don’t have to go far, you should remember their recent elections.
  20. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 9 March 2014 10: 32
    +4
    Ruined the country. Why now these elections? .. For Ponte, they say like we are all right? ..
  21. Santor
    Santor 9 March 2014 10: 33
    +2
    Quote: Stinger
    Sergey Taruta


    Sergey Taruta, Ukrainian billionaire, 1955 year of birth, takes 2008 year 8 place in the TOP richest people in Ukraine.


    Chairman of the Board of Directors of ISD, President of the Metallurg Football Club (Donetsk). He owns the Alchevsk Metallurgical Plant, the Alchevsk Coke and Chemical Plant, the Dnieper Metallurgical Plant named after Dzerzhinsky, and the Dnieper Pipe Plant.
  22. pensioner
    pensioner 9 March 2014 10: 36
    +4
    Presidential Election-2014: start or false start
    Comedy del arte in Ukrainian on the ruins of the country, not elections.
  23. vlum
    vlum 9 March 2014 11: 03
    +1
    Anti-fascist action in Kharkov shot from a firearm

    Law enforcement officers work at the scene
    8 March, 17: 47

    Source - the online edition of the “Verb”: http://glagol.in.ua/2014/03/08/antifashistskuyu-aktsiyu-v-harkove-rasstrelyali-i
    z-ognestrelnogo-oruzhiya / # ixzz2vRkiWdgN
  24. Santor
    Santor 9 March 2014 11: 11
    0
    Quote: vlum
    Anti-fascist action in Kharkov shot from a firearm

    Law enforcement officers work at the scene
    8 March, 17: 47

    Already link is promptly deleted
    1. vlum
      vlum 9 March 2014 11: 50
      +1
      not completely removed - there is a tail link curve. Here is the correct one:

      http://glagol.in.ua/2014/03/08/antifashistskuyu-aktsiyu-v-harkove-rasstrelyali-i
      z-ognestrelnogo-oruzhiya /

      From my computer opens. Does the website Verb open for you? There they have the same news on the main page.
  25. Santor
    Santor 9 March 2014 11: 14
    +1
    Here in Kharkov
  26. Bakht
    Bakht 9 March 2014 12: 02
    +2
    The West will bet on Yarosh. Or any other far-right nationalist contender. It seems so to me. His past and his statements do not shock anyone in the West. At one time, the West bet on Hitler. It is for his statements and promises. As one of the US presidents said about Doc's dad, "Of course he is a son of a bitch. But he is our son of a bitch."
  27. Cristall
    Cristall 9 March 2014 12: 06
    +3
    while eyewitnesses write that there is no trace of blood at all - without confirmation I won’t believe it. Like a lot.
    I noticed that Ukrainians (except for strayers) on the site became two times and missed themselves ...
    I see almost no one, except that Kars occasionally and Vovka
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 9 March 2014 12: 11
      +4
      Quote: Cristall
      I noticed that Ukrainians (except for strayers) on the site became two times and missed themselves ...

      There is such a thing! Here I think, and if the Internet has not been cut! And there are almost no trolls under the Ukrainian flag! What is going on? request
    2. bomg.77
      bomg.77 9 March 2014 12: 14
      +2
      Quote: Cristall
      I see almost no one, except that Kars occasionally and Vovka
      I drew the same attention to this! There were few of them ... Akim, Makarov, generally disappeared
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 9 March 2014 12: 28
        +2
        Quote: bomg.77
        Akim, Makarov, disappeared altogether

        Hugo Carlson's not to see! Densh also rarely comes! God bless the men of health and well-being!
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 9 March 2014 12: 46
          +4
          Quote: Sid.74
          Yeah Carlson is not to be seen!

          Yes, he has something to do in the partisan detachment ...
          He just won’t give up!
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 9 March 2014 12: 50
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            Quote: retired
            Yes, he has something to do in the partisan detachment ...

            yes Yes sir... hi
        2. bomg.77
          bomg.77 9 March 2014 13: 17
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          Quote: Sid.74
          Yep carlson not see
          Carlson, yes! I forgot about him what
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 9 March 2014 13: 31
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            We have only Elena "Egoza" here, a real partisan, now defending Ukraine in the VO!
            Elena with respect! hi
            1. bomg.77
              bomg.77 9 March 2014 13: 40
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              Quote: Sid.74
              We only have Elena "Egoza" here, a real partisan,
              Egoza and Nevsky. In Ukraine, it has now become unsafe to speak freely; it has just appeared in the newsVillage Stepovoe, Poltava region. They killed a woman, about 80 years. Killed for being a nurse in the Red Army.
              So they need to be careful! The Pravoseks have freedom of action, they already ride on armored personnel carriers, there is no law!
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 9 March 2014 13: 46
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                Quote: bomg.77
                They killed a woman, about 80 years. They killed for what was once a nurse in the Red Army.

                There are no words .... there is nothing sacred about these geeks ... after such news their hands are drawn to the ax!
                1. bomg.77
                  bomg.77 9 March 2014 13: 52
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                  Quote: Sid.74
                  There are no words .... nothing sacred from these geeks ...
                  Those who screamed a geta gang! will soon be breaking from Kiev and other regions when mass stripping begins, and not as it is now! These are only the first swallows ...
                  1. Sid.74
                    Sid.74 9 March 2014 14: 00
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                    Alexey! Here's a report, so to speak, from a Svidomo Internet resource! That's what they write, disturbing thoughts visit me !!!

                    5 March on the initiative of the People's Deputy of Ukraine VI convocation Nikolai Rudchenko from Zhytomyr to the Crimea went two cars with products for the Ukrainian military.

                    About how they brought food to the Crimean military unit, Zhytomyr.info was told by the press secretary of Nikolay Rudchenko Alla Shevchuk.

                    We left last night, drove these products with two cars. Initially alarmed by the fact that the southern route, which is always crowded with transport, was almost empty. Before you go: there are many spontaneous markets near the road, but now it's empty. There are only a few truck drivers, and that's all.

                    At the entrance to the town of Armiansk, the first checkpoint is Ukrainian. Ukrainian flags are standing there - it is immediately clear that our checkpoint. A little military, they are armed. The first impression is very bad, some kind of internal warning ... On the left, an excavator digs a trench - digs trenches. Three people approached the car, said hello, asked where we were going, checked the documents (he was driving) Nikolai Nikolayevich (Rudchenko) - and that’s all: we had no complaints, we drove on.

                    Literally after kilometers 8 is the next checkpoint. It was visible from afar: military equipment was visible, barricades, such as on the Maidan — were high, they were clearly visible, although there was fog in the morning. It was also visible different flags. When we arrived, a column of cars was already lined up there. We still did not understand what it was and what it was for, because the first checkpoint had passed normally. It turned out to be a Russian roadblock. There were Russian armed men. They have different camouflage and some with St. George ribbons, others have a scotch yellow sticker on their sleeves. They, apparently, distinguish each other, but it was difficult for us to understand who they are and what they are.

                    Among them were the "Berkutovtsy". We concluded that they were our “Berkuts”, who served Ukraine, but went over to the side of the Crimean government. In fact, they work together with the Russians, with these so-called “self-defenders”.

                    Approaching, they saw that they were sending weapons to each car. Three people go out and direct the barrel of the machine to direct ... We stopped. 5 man surrounded our car, said they would check everything. I personally checked three people: one came checked, things shook up, the second ...

                    With us was a videographer from the regional television. Saw the camera, said to give. We began to explain that this is state television, and not a personal camera. They asked the operator what he was shooting. He explained that nothing concrete, just general panoramas. Required to give cassette. They cleaned everything that was on the tape: they took it away, took it away, cleaned it, and then they returned it. Very tense situation ... They behave as if we were in their territory, as if they were masters.
                    1. Sid.74
                      Sid.74 9 March 2014 14: 03
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                      While each was individually checked, one man approached us, a Russian, somewhere under 60 for years, in camouflage, in a beret. He began to tell where he served and so on. And immediately began to talk about western Ukraine. Inexplicably. Maybe he saw that we have Zhytomyr numbers. The Zhytomyr region is considered to be the western region, they do not consider us central. He spoke Russian. He said that he knew Ukraine very well, he was good at the military situation and social and political. He told us that this situation arose because western Ukraine seized Kiev, organized the Maidan. They say that there, in western Ukraine, as he put it, people live mentally unbalanced, because some certain chemical elements are missing in water and children are born mentally underdeveloped. And we could not answer this, because before he began to talk, he showed us his machine gun, and also showed that he had a cloth case on his side and a machine gun shop in that case. He also noted: "You do not think that we shoot blank, we shoot live ammunition."

                      At that moment, when this man spoke to us, shots rang out. We look: they are shooting at the car that was in front of us. Imagine the psychological state when you go, and three automatic machines are being instructed to you in the windshield ...

                      Check every car. If the truck looks only at the documents, and if on the private transport, everyone exits, they search, almost to the linen.

                      The situation is depressing ... On the right - a huge shaft, a trench dug under it. Through the fog was visible fighting vehicles. Near the wall - hundreds of Russian military. Among this “public” that detained us on the road, there was an 200 man, no less. There were these “berkutovtsy”, about which I spoke, there were people in black - it is not clear who they are and that they were such, like “titushki” - in sports, there were Kuban Cossacks. And they had, probably, pieces of 10 of different Russian flags: “Russian unity”, “Russian fleet” and others. And only one small, like an orphan, stood our flag.

                      They said that the products will not be missed. Then came their main, and we still missed.

                      We arrived at the military unit in the village of Perevalnoe, this is on the road between Simferopol and Yalta. We were in the 36 Coast Defense Brigade. We drove into the territory. Incidentally, there are Zhytomyr military personnel ...

                      Products that brought, unloaded half a day. Of course, they were delighted. They said that life on the territory of the military unit has practically not changed: they do, in fact, what they did. Only, having armed themselves, they guard the military unit: outside, the Russians stand, and inside, under the gates, stand ours, guard the territory around the perimeter. They say they want one thing - so that stingrays do not burn in our country, so that armed people do not walk in the streets ...

                      As Zhytomyr.info reported, Zhytomyr donated products for the military in Crimea: 300 kg of fat, canned food, cereals, tea.
                      1. Platov
                        Platov 9 March 2014 17: 51
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                        300kg of fat half a day unloaded chickens to laugh. Really at them zhurnalyugi became robots. He turned the lever and for a moment forgot how to connect three words in Russian.
  28. project sity
    project sity 9 March 2014 13: 26
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    Well, that's the election! America will set its own right now, and we have lost our beloved Crimea, or simply say Ukraine, although the same thing. Putin all profiled, or is this what kind of strategy I don’t know? Ukraine cannot be lost, it’s all understood why ...
  29. project sity
    project sity 9 March 2014 13: 32
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    If I'm wrong, I apologize!
  30. VDV FERGANA
    VDV FERGANA 10 March 2014 01: 16
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    Well! elections elections Deputies p ... s, now it will start as in a jar with phalanges and scorpions, oil thieves will begin to cut pieces from the pie. All of them are not enough .... election slogans "land to the peasants" "all power Maidanu" and other voodoo spells and chants!
    One more beautiful! they are already doing their own thing, with the filing of some comrades who have not been comrades for a long time! brought the country to a state of non-standing .... there is no complete mess about the order ...
    It is a pity for ordinary people (old people) especially. What will happen to them now?
    And these same candidates, so what will they do ???? As they swam in oil, they will, seize caviar.
    On stake!