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Minus mythMany myths are collapsing now. And if the liberal are so miserable that they are not even interesting for an answer, then I would like to mention patriotic myths that have now collapsed loudly.


The trade patriots shouted a lot and loudly that our army was weak and almost destroyed. I remember how the expert Konstantin Sivkov agreed at one seminar that NATO did not attack Russia just because there are fools who, unlike the valiant analyst, don’t know that Russia has neither airplanes nor tanksnor a nuclear shield.

Such experts have created a stable myth, which is now bursting at the seams and makes you think about the motives of the experts themselves. I would like to hear explanations from them, how does Russia regain the Crimea for a destroyed army?

After all, it’s not so much about polite people and their uniforms. Only a very confident country, almost a power, can afford such an operation with an efficient army, against which even the world gendarme does not dare to speak openly.

Large-scale and frequent exercises can not afford a poor country with a plundered budget, which is painted to us by trade unionists.

In recent days, another old and seemingly convincing myth has fallen - about Russia's criminal dependence on the West, dependence on the import of goods and investments. They say that in case of necessity of exacerbation of political relations with the West, they will block financial oxygen for us, arrange a trade blockade - and Russia will collapse. And what do we see now?

With the ultra-high tension of Russia's relations with the West, which even surpasses the Caribbean crisis, the West dares to harsh words and sanctions to individual officials. There is no talk of a blockade or an iron curtain for the whole of Russia.

It turned out that the West itself is no less dependent on Russia - in the provision of resources and in terms of the market for goods. Even limiting the supply of resources from Russia or goods to Russia, not to mention a complete refusal, will instantly nullify all the titanic efforts of the same European Union to overcome the crisis. So they snap their teeth in the air, not being able to bite. Because they understand that they will bite themselves first of all by the tail.

Yes, in the classical sense, dependence on a potential enemy is indeed a weakness and a guarantee of defeat. However, in today's open world, things are not so straightforward. With well-built diversified openness, you can not just benefit, but also nullify the politically motivated blockade of the country.

You need to understand the difference in the types of openness. In 90-s, Russia opened itself to the detriment of itself, under Putin, with profit and rationally: when calculating all the consequences and firmly defending its interests. In addition, in recent years, Russia has staked on cooperation with the East and the BRICS countries. Moscow, in fact, prepared the formation of an anti-Western non-dollar coalition of the countries of the world, which are commonly called developing.

That is, the strategic stake was made not to dissociate from the world under the threat of future Western aggression, but to create an alternative to the West through openness to the whole world. And now it is noticeable that this rate was the only correct one.

The East will not turn away from us and will cooperate with each year more and more, but the West will not go anywhere either. At least in the coming years. After that, he may no longer be needed - neither Russia, nor anyone else on the planet.
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  1. Mainbeam
    Mainbeam 8 March 2014 12: 51
    +13
    Not that again. Emotional fiction and no analytics.
    With the ultra-high tension of Russia's relations with the West, which even surpasses the Caribbean crisis, the West dares to harsh words and sanctions to individual officials. There is no talk of a blockade or an iron curtain for the whole of Russia.

    If you do not read articles on the Internet about Ukraine, so many interesting things are happening in the world: the Sochi Paralympics, the Biathlon World Cup, in England 13-year-old Jamie Edwards has assembled a thermonuclear reactor ... No voltage. Tension is only in Ukraine itself. If you watch TV, but skip the news, then life goes on as usual. Work-home, home-work. Fishing
    1. dmitriygorshkov
      dmitriygorshkov 8 March 2014 13: 39
      +51
      And in my opinion, a person has well cast a changing outline of reality! Have you been looking for divine revelations? smile
      1. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam 8 March 2014 14: 21
        +2
        for the author, probably, revelations
        winked

        Write in the "military review" for readers of the military review
        Such experts have created an enduring myth.

        that Russia has no planes, no tanks, no nuclear shield.


        And how to understand the phrase:
        self-confident country almost power


        True, I do not want to fall into criticism, but in my opinion this is a weak article
        1. SkiF_RnD
          SkiF_RnD 8 March 2014 21: 32
          +1
          almost power


          In two words, put a minus. negative
        2. igor.borov775
          igor.borov775 9 March 2014 04: 44
          +1
          hi, the article is a kind of prayer divorced from reality, When you can’t see the arguments immediately pull the story, What is interesting is that this gentleman is still a sufferer of megalomania, Comparisons are not correct, I want to see this ideally, the facts are very stubborn things, Unfortunately the second year for the fever of the economy in Ukraine, we also bear not weak losses, the Russian economy is ticking on the spot, the only thing we have achieved is to reduce budget money withdrawal, A By simple theft, Even small advances in this field give visible results, And now to date, Increase Refinancing rates already hit small and medium businesses in obtaining loans at normal interest rates, You call this a great victory, Then I feel sorry for our people, Most of them will soon feel your victory in the form of rising prices for basic products, And quit pulling ears that the point of view of any economist causes a smile, Yes, and moral success is not visible only an attempt to achieve this, the article is simple scrap propaganda contrary and facts, TO DISCUSS THAT turns out THERE IS NOTHING,
        3. philip
          philip 9 March 2014 12: 25
          +1
          But in my opinion the same is not strong enough. MAIN BEAM do you even remotely imagine what RUSSIA is.
      2. SHILO
        8 March 2014 14: 34
        +25
        Quote: dmitriygorshkov
        And in my opinion, a man well threw a changing outline of reality!


        Especially for your post Dmitry. hi

        Putin seriously says to Barack Obama: "The Soviet Union will consider your proposal ..."
        To which Obama answers in surprise: “The Soviet Union? We thought you fell apart ... "
        Then Putin with a slight grin: “And we were joking!”
        1. VOLCHOXURAL
          VOLCHOXURAL 8 March 2014 15: 15
          +21
          Quote: SHILO

          Putin seriously says to Barack Obama: "The Soviet Union will consider your proposal ..."
          To which Obama answers in surprise: “The Soviet Union? We thought you fell apart ... "
          Then Putin with a slight grin: “And we were joking!”

          The Soviet Union did not fall apart !!! tongue
          He was temporarily disbanded for the holidays. yes wink
          1. v53993
            v53993 8 March 2014 16: 16
            +7
            Vacations seem to be over.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 8 March 2014 23: 10
              +5
              Quote: v53993
              Vacations seem to be over.

              - my youngest congratulated me on February 23. At work, the girls arranged a Sabantuy for the peasants on 23 February. Girls barely 20 years old, they do not know exactly what the USSR is. I tried to explain to my daughter that I should not be congratulated on February 23, but on May 7. The daughter replied: "Then I will congratulate dad twice - on February 23 and May 7. I want it so!"
              In general, rzhaka, all this is difficult to explain. Indeed, it feels like the USSR was disguised, but in fact has not disappeared. In biology, there is such a multicellular creature, if the external situation changes, this organism breaks up into separate cells and lives in the form of a conglomerate of completely independent unicellular creatures like ciliates. And when the situation requires another, this conglomerate of unicellular organisms again quickly unites into a multicellular creature, more adequate to new conditions. Don’t you find that the analogy here is forgive me? About the USSR in this case it is difficult to say that he died. He lives in the hearts and minds of people, even eight years old, who have no idea about this power, but somehow capture from the conversations of adults the powerful charisma of this state - and children and young people are very sensitive to charisma. And since the state lives in the minds and hearts, it means that it is lively and completely material, it’s just not the time for it to appear. It is like a Coca-Cola brand - an intangible asset, but being in the minds of millions of people, this brand costs a lot of quite tangible money and, therefore, Coca-Cola is a completely living and existing asset in the world. It turns out the same way with the USSR. So you are right. And these are not jokes. You're right. In February, I once again specially observed and hooked up, once again I was convinced.
              1. VOLCHOXURAL
                VOLCHOXURAL 9 March 2014 05: 33
                0
                Quote: aksakal
                Quote: v53993
                Vacations seem to be over.

                It's like a Coca-Cola brand

                Do you work for Coca-Cola?
                Less to you for the ridiculous comparison !!!
                cocacola is not worth any money! - I will tell you a secret! This is nothing more than a sharazhka with a turnover, less than normal offices!
                1. VOLCHOXURAL
                  VOLCHOXURAL 9 March 2014 06: 09
                  +1
                  Comrades moderators why the words - v.bros and pin.dos invalid text ???
                  Explain! And then suspicions creep in !!!
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 8 March 2014 19: 29
        +8
        Quote: "Such an operation can only be afforded by a country that is very confident in itself, almost a power - with an efficient army, against which it does not even dare to openly speak out. world gendarme."
        ================================================== ==============
        Not a "world gendarme" but a "world gopnik", spell things by their proper names please.
        And the point here is not so much in our confidence, but how much in the inability to behave with the gopnik in a different way, he simply will not understand!
      4. GSH-18
        GSH-18 8 March 2014 20: 03
        +1
        Quote: "The East will not turn its back on us and will begin to cooperate more and more every year, but the West will not go anywhere either. At least in the coming years. After that it may not be needed anymore - neither to Russia, nor to anyone else. on the planet."
        ====================================================================== =============
        I agree with this, I support! Although, the east is a delicate matter. As Comrade Sukhov used to say smile
      5. Leshka Chuvash
        Leshka Chuvash 8 March 2014 20: 30
        0
        I agree, a good article, balanced and without pathos
      6. real
        real 8 March 2014 23: 48
        0
        Myths were purposefully created by Putin and his team !!! And it turned out very believable !!! In order to conspire to mislead the enemy (USA) !!! It turned out brilliantly !!! The same, or rather, more, myths also exist in China, an ally of the Way !!! But in the year 2010 there was a myth about the frivolity of Russian-Chinese relations !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 8 March 2014 13: 43
      +30
      Quote: MainBeam
      so in the world a lot of interesting things are happening: the Sochi Paralympics

      And before that - Sochi2014 ..
      Let's remember what melody our athletes played at the opening - "You can't catch us!" ...
      And they did the impossible - 33medals, 13gold!
      Of course, not because of the melody ... But it was, as they say, the trend of today, masterfully caught by DJ.

      Then the mess in Ukraine ...

      Wait, enlightened prophets say: the Russian Spirit has awakened!
      And since I woke up, we’ll take care of everything!
      Look, in a single impulse, everyone - the leaders of the nation, the elites, all the peoples of Russia: Russians, Tatars ... Chechens, everything - everything ...

      And at the Paralympics - ours came out to the tune of Lyuba "Let's for life ..."
      The same trend ...

      The work ahead is great. We have to keep it together ...



      The clouds are overcast with gray clouds
      The nerves of a guitar string
      Rain drumming from morning to evening
      Frozen time seems like an eternity.
      We are advancing in all directions,
      Tanks, infantry, artillery fire.
      They kill us, but we survive ...
      And again, we throw ourselves into the attack.

      Come on for life, come on brother to the end
      Come on for those who were with us then.
      Come on for life, damn war
      Let us remember those who were with us then.

      The sky above us is leaden clouds
      Creeps low torn by fogs.
      I want to believe that everything is already over,
      If only my wounded comrade survived.
      You be patient, brother, don’t die yet,
      Will you live happily ever after
      We will dance at your wedding
      Will you toss the kids into the sky.

      Come on for life, hold on to the brother to the end
      Come on for those at home waiting for you
      Come on for life, damn war
      Come on for those who are waiting for you at home.

      Come on for them, come on for us
      And for Siberia and the Caucasus,
      For the light of distant cities
      And for friends and for love.
      Come on for you, come on for us
      And for the landing and for the special forces.
      For battle orders
      Let's pick it up, old man.

      Found photos in an old album
      Grandfather, he was the commander of the Red Army.
      "For memory to my son. Berlin forty-fifth."
      Century of bygone memories.
      The smell of grass at dawn is not mowed,
      The moans of the earth from the bombing of the plowed
      Pair of trodden boots
      New wars, old wars.

      Come on for life
      Come on for those
      Come on for life
      Let's remember those who were with us.
      1. S_mirnov
        S_mirnov 8 March 2014 13: 58
        +27
        Here they tried, Western agents tried, escalated, escalated hysteria around the Crimea, pushed the Russians and Ukrainians with their foreheads and, like, a little more ...
        And then Time! And MARCH 8! The Russians and Ukrainians put down their guns and let the women congratulate them, and in the evening they would sit down at one table and celebrate! drinks

        I CONGRATULATE ALL WOMEN, YOU ARE OUR ALL !!! love love love
      2. Associate Professor
        Associate Professor 8 March 2014 14: 15
        +12
        Quote: Rus2012
        And at the Paralympics - ours came out to the tune of Lyuba "Let's for life ..."

        Not only to the music from this song. At first, the Americans came out to the music "And I walk, I walk around Moscow." Then ours came out to the music of Goodbye America))) After it, "Come on for ..." was already heard. I even wondered if the fifth ring, symbolizing Sev. America at the opening of the Olympic Games
        1. alekseinew
          alekseinew 8 March 2014 14: 36
          +7
          yes well done, well thought up, with a fork in the side amers and then planted
        2. real
          real 9 March 2014 00: 03
          0
          Not by chance!!! Absolutely!!!
      3. Anper
        Anper 8 March 2014 15: 54
        +5
        Quote: Rus2012
        Come on for life, hold on to the brother to the end

        Note that the Maidan stole the music of Tsoi, Makarevich and put his words on it. The "fog" of the Gaza Strip also did not go unnoticed. There are many amateur homemade products. Tears and snot. BUT NOT ONE SONG HAS A LIFE-APPROVING SUBTEXT - hatred, anger and everything in the spirit of "Ukraine has not died yet." Therefore, during all this time, nothing It did not go to the people, even zombified. And the orange was more successful - we are not used to it, we are not k.ozl., we are Ukrainian daughters and sons.
      4. v53993
        v53993 8 March 2014 16: 14
        +8
        For your (ours) girls, guys from the special forces.
    3. SHILO
      8 March 2014 14: 00
      +13
      Quote: MainBeam
      A lot of interesting things are happening in the world: the Sochi Paralympics, the Biathlon World Cup, in England 13-year-old Jamie Edwards has assembled a fusion reactor ...


      So what are not satisfied request ? The site is called "Military Review" what ... War in Ukraine - main news from the "front line". I did not find it convenient to offer articles from "Murzilka" sad .
      1. Mainbeam
        Mainbeam 8 March 2014 14: 26
        +1
        For Ukraine, yes. You are at the center of events. You shoot, burn, beat. You have uncertainty; almost a civil war. In general, a complete paragraph. And, I think, you are not up to the Olympics.

        And for the earthly ball, "Maidan" is far from a "Caribbean crisis".
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 8 March 2014 16: 42
          +3
          Quote: MainBeam
          And, I think, you are not up to the Olympics.

          The biathlete of the Ukrainian Paralympic team Maxim Yarovoy won silver in the 7,5 km race at the Paralympic Games in Sochi.

          The winner of the race was the Russian Roman Pushkov. Third place went to the representative of Japan, Kozo Kubo.
          XXXX
          Well! At first, our girl won bronze, now men pulled themselves up - silver !!!
          Congratulations to all Paralympics! I bow to their stamina and courage! it is in such a difficult time, they set an example and inspire hope that WE WILL ALL CAN !!!!
    4. Altona
      Altona 8 March 2014 14: 29
      +11
      Quote: MainBeam
      Not that again. Emotional inventions and no analytics.

      ---------------------
      Emotional intensity, dear, is no less powerful than cold analytics ... The people believed that we can do EVERYTHING: win the Olympics, conduct exercises, at the peak of emotions it turns out that we and the West can give two fingers on the asphalt ... the main myth is about a certain peculiarity of Ukrainians and their supposedly special difference from Russians ... Ukrainians turned out to be 83% “repainted” by stupid ideology, propaganda and “cultivation” RUSSIAN and were RUSSIAN! And so life is as usual ... Work-home, home-fishing ...
      1. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 8 March 2014 16: 16
        +2
        That's right, Comrade Lieutenant! soldier
    5. Roman48
      Roman48 8 March 2014 16: 00
      +4
      About thermonuclear reactor - complete nonsense! Http: //class-fizika.narod.ru/9_42.htm
    6. Darek
      Darek 8 March 2014 20: 46
      +2
      Quote: MainBeam
      Lake and sea fishing


      Want!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    7. Ross
      Ross 9 March 2014 12: 11
      0
      Here's another analytics option for the current situation from BER
      [media = http: //my.mail.ru/video/bk/nz/#video=/bk/nz/69/928]
  2. Dimy4
    Dimy4 8 March 2014 13: 36
    +9
    almost power

    Come on to be shy, almost an empire again. wink
    1. RND
      RND 8 March 2014 14: 42
      +4
      Quote: Dimy4
      almost power

      Come on to be shy, almost an empire again. wink

      And what is bad, I am "for"! soldier
  3. siberalt
    siberalt 8 March 2014 13: 41
    +7
    And what? The author thinks correctly. Someone will have to exchange tailcoats for tuxedos. The world is really becoming multipolar. The dictates of military force are changing to the dictates of reason. Although here, without a vigorous baton, not everyone knows. What to take from them! What gets into your mouth is better to choke than to spit out.
  4. Klim2011
    Klim2011 8 March 2014 13: 48
    +9
    Mutual dependence between Russia and the West is certainly present, finance, technology, resources and so on.
    Now we are playing our game on the counter-riddles among our Western partners with our own benefit.
    It breaks on tanks to the English Channel of course more spectacularly, but hardly more efficiently.
    1. Lantau
      Lantau 8 March 2014 13: 56
      +5
      It breaks on tanks to the English Channel of course more spectacularly, but hardly more efficiently.

      All in good time.
  5. andrei332809
    andrei332809 8 March 2014 13: 50
    +16
    So they click their teeth in the air, not being able to bite. Because they understand that they will primarily bite themselves by the tail.

    because mongrel. ugh, bl ...
    1. major071
      major071 8 March 2014 14: 29
      +18
      Here, you know, after Russia harnessed itself to the Crimea, more than one hundred stripped cowards in the west went to the wash. They still think that Russia is dense peasants on bears with samovars, who are guided by the white-ribbon "brotherhood" on the path of true crap criticism. And here is such oblomingo! It is high time to understand this pseudo-crap and supposedly freedom that we are not the same as we were in the early 90s. Not at all the same ...
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 8 March 2014 14: 33
        +4
        Quote: major071
        They still think that Russia is dense men on bears with samovars,

        not, but I would ride a bear. sorry, I can’t play the balalaika. but the fuel in the form of a pair of bubbles should be taken fellow
    2. alexng
      alexng 9 March 2014 01: 43
      0
      Quote: andrei332809
      because mongrel. ugh, bl ...


      Because, jokes.
  6. Siberian19
    Siberian19 8 March 2014 13: 50
    +3
    showed at the Olympics that Russia is back! Now in the Crimea! so that no one doubts that we are back!
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 8 March 2014 13: 56
      +1
      Quote: Siberian19
      so no one doubts that we are back!

      did we disappear?
      1. Siberian19
        Siberian19 8 March 2014 14: 05
        +2
        as a counterweight to the US hegemon, I think so
  7. the polar
    the polar 8 March 2014 13: 55
    0
    Where is the author of the article dreamed that "Russia is returning Crimea." The "polite military" are not Russian servicemen, they are the Russian-speaking contingent of several PMCs hired by Crimea to protect law and order and protect residents from provocations.

    "which even surpasses the Cuban missile crisis," the author laughs again.

    Empty patriotic screams are now unnecessary and harmful in essence.
    So far, only one thing is clear, that the Russian authorities asked for Ukraine ... la. For twenty years they were engaged in "privatization" - the carve-up of the Soviet legacy, and Ukraine did the same. Finally, Russia drew attention to the fact that a purulent neo-Nazi abscess had formed near her side, carefully grown by the "kravchuks" - "Yushchenko" - "Kuchma" -yanukovychs "under the leadership of the West. Now this" abscess "must be eliminated, but there are no available ways. disunited and fed up with propaganda, he was assured that it was not the West and the Ukrainian oligarchs who were to blame for his troubles, but Russia.Today, there is no pro-Russian organization in Ukraine with which one could cooperate informally, which would take responsibility for organizing an active rebuff to the Maidan neo-Nazis The task is very difficult, but it cannot be solved.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 8 March 2014 13: 59
      +5
      Quote: Polar
      The task is very difficult, but it cannot be solved.

      ... otherwise it will return an even bigger problem!
      Therefore, it is necessary to crush the creeping adder in the bud ...
      1. not main
        not main 8 March 2014 22: 15
        0
        Quote: Rus2012
        Quote: Polar
        The task is very difficult, but it cannot be solved.

        ... otherwise it will return an even bigger problem!
        Therefore, it is necessary to crush the creeping adder in the bud ...

        If you do not solve the problem, then it will either never be solved or will be decided not in your favor!
    2. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 9 March 2014 01: 07
      -1
      We talked too long about Ukraine "brothers, brothers" and did not want to notice that more and more people, especially young people, no longer consider us as such. Since 1985, we have been gradually ousted from everywhere and this was obvious to many. And the weak, as you know, are not respect. Only after 2000 did some kind of a shift for the better start, but we had no time for Ukraine - we would have to survive on our own. And only now, when Russia has gained strength again, can we really do something. Yes, we ignored the events in Ukraine. But it was not customary for us to spy on those whom we consider friends. And we, as a rule, looked for agents of influence from the "potential enemy". But I think not all is lost. And, as POLAR said, "the task is difficult, but it cannot be solved"!
  8. Zaharoff
    Zaharoff 8 March 2014 13: 56
    +25
    Um ... to be honest, I am very cautious about the statements that the army’s budget is increasing by so much a billion rubles a year, contracts for the supply of tanks, planes, etc. ... BUT, my mother serves in the border service of 250 km. from Vladivostok, in the godforsaken district center, I always look at it and what is happening with them, I think this is such an indicator that even if there is movement in such a remote place, then there really is movement, the movement is very positive: in the last few years I’ve been serving young guys and professionals come, military universities are behind them, they come to work for good money, for which it’s not a shame to defend their homeland and give gifts to their wife, they put up modern communication equipment, new uniforms, even 2-3 times a year for signalmen, before 1 time in 3 years, constant inspections and inspections from Vladivostok, the staff was very young, a lot of contractors ... in general, this is necessary further ... Crimea is only the beginning ... more will be more
    1. sergeykms
      sergeykms 8 March 2014 18: 08
      0
      And not only recently they formed and sent to training a group of specialists to study SS 400, which at least says that they appeared in the Far East. Or here to appear
  9. AVV
    AVV 8 March 2014 13: 57
    +6
    The West is driving itself into a trap !!! If you recall it was Russia that helped Germany to unite, and what we can see now, but we cannot correct the mistakes of the former leaders of the country, again double standards! A referendum in Scotland is normal, but in Crimea and Ukraine it is impossible , it is not in their interests of the West !!! Yes, just who will ask them ???
  10. RUSS
    RUSS 8 March 2014 14: 03
    +3
    Quote: Rus2012
    And at the Paralympics - ours came out to the tune of Lyuba "Let's for life ..."
    The same trend ...


    Correctly spelled and pronounced -PARALIMPIAD, not ParaOlympic.
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 8 March 2014 14: 06
      +3
      Quote: RUSS
      Correctly spelled and pronounced -PARALIMPIAD, not ParaOlympic.

      Well...
      "we all learned a little,
      something and somehow "
  11. konvalval
    konvalval 8 March 2014 14: 05
    +2
    Myths and myths. Something comes true, something remains a myth. But the fact that some analysts are trying to present us as flawed does not honor either Russia or them.
  12. shibi
    shibi 8 March 2014 14: 15
    +5
    Quote: Dimy4
    almost power

    Come on to be shy, almost an empire again. wink

    Called Empire - show your teeth!
    What Russia is doing.
  13. from punk
    from punk 8 March 2014 14: 17
    +4
    not so bad but want better
  14. Arkan
    Arkan 8 March 2014 14: 21
    +1
    Myth-making has always been and never has been impartial. Some create myths, others, by their deeds, destroy them.
  15. parus2nik
    parus2nik 8 March 2014 14: 28
    +3
    Quote: Siberian19
    showed at the Olympics that Russia is back! Now in the Crimea! so that no one doubts that we are back!

    We did not return, we came for our own ... Once we forgot to pick up .. wink
  16. Combat279
    Combat279 8 March 2014 14: 28
    +5
    It was not respect for the Russian soldier and the people that brought us to Paris and Berlin ..... and probably we are on the path of new discoveries, but what ??? GDP knows for sure!
  17. parus2nik
    parus2nik 8 March 2014 14: 41
    +7
    It’s time to return to propaganda films of the 30s .. For example: If, tomorrow is war! Actually, as never before:

    If tomorrow is war, if the enemy attacks,
    If the dark force comes, -
    As one person, the whole Soviet people
    He will stand up for a free Motherland.

    Chorus:
    On earth, in the heavens and the sea
    Our refrain is both powerful and severe:
    If tomorrow is war
    If the hike is tomorrow, -
    Be ready for the trip today!

    If tomorrow is war, the country will stir
    From Kronstadt to Vladivostovka.
    The country will be stirred up, great and strong,
    And we will cruelly break the enemy.

    (Option from the same movie.:
    ...
    The country will stir up, and it will be able to
    To the enemy paid cruelly)

    Chorus.

    (Variant of a refrain from the same movie.:
    On earth, in the heavens and the sea
    Our refrain is both powerful and severe:
    We will not flinch in battle
    For my homeland, -
    And cruelly repay the enemy! )

    A plane will fly, a machine gun will be sharpened,
    Mighty tanks rumble
    And the battleships will go, and the infantry will go,
    And dashing tachanka rush.

    (Option: Iron tanks clatter ...)

    Chorus.
    On earth, in the heavens and the sea
    Our refrain is both powerful and severe:
    If tomorrow is war
    If the hike is tomorrow, -
    Be ready for the trip today!

    We do not want war, but we will protect ourselves, -
    We fortify the defense for a reason, -
    And in enemy land, we will crush the enemy
    Little blood, a mighty blow!

    Chorus.
    On earth, in the heavens and the sea
    Our refrain is both powerful and severe:
    If tomorrow is war
    If the hike is tomorrow, -
    Be ready for the trip today!

    In the whole world, nowhere is there such power
    To crush our country, -
    With us is Stalin's native, and with an iron hand
    Voroshilov leads us to victory!

    (Option: And always and everywhere with us Stalin is dear
    With us the marshal is Voroshilov! )

    (Option: Stalin is with us, Tymoshenko is a hero,
    Voroshilov leads us to victory! )

    Chorus.
    On earth, in the heavens and the sea
    Our refrain is both powerful and severe:
    If tomorrow is war
    If the hike is tomorrow, -
    Be ready for the trip today!

    Rise up the people, pack your camping trip!
    Drums, Drum Stronger!
    Musicians, go ahead! Singers, go ahead!
    Come our victorious song!

    Chorus:

    On earth, in the heavens and the sea
    Our refrain is both powerful and severe:
    If tomorrow is war
    If the hike is tomorrow, -
    BE TODAY READY FOR THE CAMPAIGN !!!

    War time option:

    "If tomorrow is war" - this is how we sang yesterday,
    And today - the war has come,
    And when the time of battle came
    We sing with renewed vigor:
    Chorus: On earth, in heaven and at sea
    Our refrain is both powerful and severe:
    Rise, people, |
    Get ready for a hike!> 2 times
    We will defeat impudent enemies! |
    War has come - the country has stirred
    From Kronstadt to Vladivostok,
    The country shook, great and strong,
    And we will cruelly break the enemy.

    Chorus.
    On earth, in the heavens and the sea
    Our refrain is both powerful and severe:
    If tomorrow is war
    If the hike is tomorrow, -
    Be ready for the trip today!

    A plane flew, a machine gun
    Mighty tanks thundered
    And the infantry went on their triumph,
    And the dashing carts rushed.
    Chorus.
    We will protect ourselves from the fascist horde, -
    We were preparing for battle for a reason, -
    And in enemy land, we will crush the enemy
    Merciless, powerful blow!
    Chorus.
    Rise, people, pack your camping trip
    Drums, Drum Stronger!
    Musicians, go ahead! Singers, go ahead!
    Come our victorious song!
    Chorus.
    In the whole world, nowhere is there such power
    To crush our country, -
    Stalin is our native, Tymoshenko is a hero,
    With us a friend of war Voroshilov!
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 8 March 2014 15: 50
      +1
      Quote: parus2nik
      (Option: Stalin is with us, Tymoshenko is a hero,
      Voroshilov leads us to victory! )

      With us, Stalin, with his native and iron hand, Voroshilov leads us to victory ..
  18. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 8 March 2014 14: 47
    +1
    Myths-myths. While the talking shop is going on, the Banderlogists are cleaning the arsenals, and neither the UES nor the "maydanutye" of this type see it. We have already acquired needles, two kilometers from the Crimean border, there are deployed Grady, probably also already under their command. The blood can still be spilled. Hurry, a referendum, can shoot at Russia so..at.
    1. sergeykms
      sergeykms 8 March 2014 18: 13
      +1
      It is unlikely that it will be possible to avoid blood, we have already announced in advance that they will not recognize the results of the referendum
    2. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 9 March 2014 01: 15
      0
      "They are cleaning the arsenals, and neither the EES nor the Maydanutye see this type." Well, these are the problems of the EEC. After all, these ignoramuses so what good can accidentally undermine the pipeline. Oh, what a nuisance! (for EEC). And what are we, we are nothing, we warned you. This is force majeure.
  19. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi 8 March 2014 14: 47
    0
    As a person living far from the conflict zone, I’m curious, for example, Europe’s analysts calculated everything when starting this conflict. It seems not all.
    For France, the only visible effects to the naked eye will affect only the luxury goods sector. Russians are the second most important LVMH customers after the Chinese. They buy a lot both in Russia and outside the country. Russians (at least the rich) travel a lot. Dear hotels, prestigious restaurants, jewelers, producers of champagne and the best wines - this whole small world can suffer.
    In addition, all this can affect the prestigious real estate sector in Paris, on the Cote d'Azur, in Courchevel and Deauville, because it is very dependent on the Russians who invest part of their fortune in it. If the West stops issuing visas and even freezes overseas property and accounts of wealthy representatives of the Russian and Ukrainian diasporas, entire industries will still suffocate. Nevertheless, most of all the consequences will be felt in the energy sector. Western Europe imports from Russia 35% oil and half gas. The transit of hydrocarbons goes through Ukraine, and the danger of war has led to skyrocketing prices over the past two weeks. Prices are set in dollars, and, consequently, their increase becomes only noticeable against the backdrop of the depreciation of the ruble.
    Finally, a few words should be said about financial risks. European (German, English and French) banks have loans of 40 billion euros in Russia and Ukraine. Only Société générale has 13 billion loans in Russia. As a result, European financial institutions have become hostages of the Ukrainian default (such a prospect does not seem so incredible now), and Western banks will not be able to do anything with a possible freezing of accounts, which could be Putin’s response to blocking Russian accounts and assets in the West. Therefore, the dialogue is emerging very difficult, and Europeans can not necessarily speak from a position of strength. Each side has something to answer the other.
    In addition, Russia is able to soften the blow. Moreover, the situation may even benefit her. Prices for gas, oil and other raw materials, which account for the bulk of its exports, will go up. The fall of the ruble will play into the hands of exporting companies, and the worse relations become, the more profitable it will be for the Russian economy. Ukraine is already seriously ill (45 of millions of inhabitants earn an average of 300 euros per month) and can finally sink to the bottom. If Europe does not provide her assistance (but how can one lend money to the country on the verge of default?), And Russia will block its financing (at the end of February, Moscow already demanded 13 from it of billions of dollars for gas), Ukraine will go into the abyss.
    And if Ukraine really drowns, Brussels will have much worse than Moscow, because European financial obligations in the country are more than Russian. Apparently, the Ukrainian default may turn out to be comparable in consequences with the collapse of Lehman Brothers.
    Europe has still not been able to fully recover from the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers and simply cannot afford the second such blow in five years.
    http://www.atlantico.fr/decryptage/crise-e...sse-999796.html

  20. shibi
    shibi 8 March 2014 14: 49
    0
    Quote: Combat279
    It was not respect for the Russian soldier and the people that brought us to Paris and Berlin ..... and probably we are on the path of new discoveries, but what ??? GDP knows for sure!

    Just do not understand that everything is going to the West?
    It's time to the East!
    Strip neighbors starting in Alaska)))))
    We have a technique adapted to the North Am)))
  21. ddmm09
    ddmm09 8 March 2014 15: 04
    +2
    You have to push the west, push! There is no other way!
    1. alekseinew
      alekseinew 8 March 2014 15: 13
      +4
      right now our Paralympics, to the whole world, show what’s the first day and 12 medals, like this
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 8 March 2014 16: 36
      +3
      The combined US and EU GDP of 36 billion $ and this does not include Japan, the South Caucasus and Australia, which can be attributed to the West. Economically, the pressure will be somewhat difficult. It is necessary to play on the interests, on the contradiction on the mistakes of the Ukrainian Government. Then no one will have to push.
  22. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 8 March 2014 15: 13
    -1
    The army, that is, but of course we cannot compete with the ami in the air! They have experience, and our flyers are "suctioned" without fuel! On the ground, we will still fight ...
    1. sergeykms
      sergeykms 8 March 2014 18: 19
      +2
      Well, this is where it’s like, we have two flyers complaining on the contrary about overloaded flight schedules and there are no problems with fuel
    2. DMB-78
      DMB-78 8 March 2014 22: 41
      +2
      Quote: Orc-78
      They have experience, and our flyers are "suctioned" without fuel! On the ground, we will still fight ...

      you what ??? they are sitting. I live in Lipetsk and see that there are flights almost every day.
      1. alexng
        alexng 9 March 2014 02: 01
        0
        Well, why did you, the servant, destroy another myth? soldier
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  23. skifd
    skifd 8 March 2014 15: 19
    +1
    "Our implacable enemies have long been trying to cultivate Russophobic Slavs in Eastern Europe. As before, this is done in order to play the Slavs against each other and maintain a warlike burning" to the last Russian "...


    Ukraine is needed to strike Russia

    Author - Andrey Fursov

    The North Atlantic elites are a much more serious adversary than Hitler with his Third Reich ...

    The VZGLYAD newspaper brings you an interview with Andrey Fursov about what is happening in Ukraine, about the main geopolitical challenges for Russia and about the current balance of power on the world chessboard. "

    Interesting . In full:
    http://ru-an.info/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B8/%D1%83%D0%BA%D1%80%
    D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BD%D1%83%D0%B6%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BE%D0%BD%
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    0%BA%D0%B5-%D0%B4%D0%BB%D1%8F-%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%B0-%D0%BF%D0%BE-%D1%80
    %D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B8/
  24. from punk
    from punk 8 March 2014 15: 29
    +2
    by the way about democracy
  25. Monk
    Monk 8 March 2014 15: 41
    +5
    "give me a company of Russian paratroopers and I will bring the whole world to its knees"
    Hags US General
    I think you can’t say better about the Russian army.
  26. kirqiz ssr
    kirqiz ssr 8 March 2014 15: 54
    +9
    I ask you to return to me my homeland, the Soviet Union.
  27. Nikxnumx
    Nikxnumx 8 March 2014 16: 08
    +11
    Article plus, BUT - no need to relax. Russia has risen from its knees, and everyone needs to strengthen the greatness of our country, and of course, not by managers, but by competent technicians in the workplace. A lot of money is being invested in our defense industry, but we must not forget that the main thing is human resources.
  28. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 8 March 2014 16: 14
    +2
    Here somewhere I already wrote that patriots underestimate us, there is the Russian Spirit and it rises. The swamp of lies can no longer be hidden, it spreads everywhere and people, ordinary people see how much their politicians are mired in this swamp, and some were born there and did not see the purity of relations
  29. Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 8 March 2014 16: 16
    +2
    Quote: Orc-78
    The army, that is, but of course we cannot compete with the ami in the air! They have experience, and our flyers are "suctioned" without fuel! On the ground, we will still fight ...


    wait a respected one, a couple of dozens of these experienced birds will land on the ground, then the ardor of their flyers will be greatly reduced.

    And our air defense is able to cool the wings of the enemy
  30. Borus017
    Borus017 8 March 2014 16: 16
    +1
    Blind hurray-patriotism and equally blind defeatism in the style of "We are all going to die !!!" are two sides of the same coin. Don't like analysts so much? Sure! After all, instead of chanting "Russia forward!" they find weaknesses, problems, shortcomings - which need to be ELIMINATED! And for this, work. These are the bastards! It's because of them that the anecdote came to life: "Uncle, did you shoot down the plane? - I - But this is a Soviet plane! - I, I!" And because of whom else?
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 8 March 2014 16: 42
      +1
      Quote: Borus017
      Don't like analysts so much? Sure! After all, instead of chanting "Russia forward!" they find weaknesses, problems, shortcomings - which need to be ELIMINATED! And for this, work.

      These are not those analysts. Those analysts that you mentioned are sitting in closed institutions, not PR.
  31. Bargus
    Bargus 8 March 2014 16: 34
    +1
    The West worked out its bonuses to the Allies because of the puddle that (the elder brother did not start epilepsy, he felt pity for him; he takes such a vulnerable and impressionable child from his favorite toy Russia). Well, if you seriously need to be stupid and let us politicians blame the bore on Russia, they swallow one bitter pill after another from the beginning, South Ossetia and Abkhazia, in Georgia the people chose a government that is loyal to Russia, they supported the plans of overseas rulers in Ukraine and here it went as expected. Of course, you can click on the (button) then the end of civilization and no one will benefit from this, only the majority of the inhabitants of the earth will think for what the last breath will fly. Such a finale is not excluded, but time will tell.
  32. Zomanus
    Zomanus 8 March 2014 17: 24
    +4
    Yes, everything is fine. Everyone screams about their own. But Putin and his subordinates just take it and do it. And even here we will not be able to predict what their next step will be. Here it is, a pure review of opinions and a layout according to the preferences of one side or another.
  33. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 8 March 2014 17: 38
    0
    Thank God, finally, our Motherland (in the person of GDP and its government) showed the world who is who! What did they think if they planted a liberal traitor from among the Gaidar-Chubais gang, Russia ended, and to hell with you. Your Ukrainian adventure will be a prelude to your collapse, it’s a pity only the innocent people killed by scum at the direction of the West, but God will give for that too ask them! Obama dug his own grave with his own hands: the brains from the immense consumption of bananas were liquefied and they did not realize what they were doing! (Do they even have brains)
    1. alexng
      alexng 9 March 2014 02: 15
      0
      For the West, this is the beginning of its end. But they themselves were the initiators, so they can only blame themselves.
    2. ando_bor
      ando_bor 9 March 2014 08: 50
      0
      Present-day Russia is not the Soviet Union, it was born in the Gaidar-Chubais torment, and when the boy grew up he went to serve in the Army, and he trained and equipped his GDP well. And painful childbirth was simply necessary, Putin understands this very well, otherwise Chubais and Khodorkovsky would have sat, and not taxied the state corporation.

      This is a question of the state, and our homeland as it was was and remains - Russia, we must proceed from this and unite on this basis.
  34. AVIATOR36662
    AVIATOR36662 8 March 2014 17: 47
    +1
    Quote: MainBeam
    for the author, probably, revelations
    winked

    Write in the "military review" for readers of the military review
    Such experts have created an enduring myth.

    that Russia has no planes, no tanks, no nuclear shield.


    And how to understand the phrase:
    self-confident country almost power




    True, I do not want to fall into criticism, but in my opinion this is a weak article



    The article should be short enough and hit right on target, which is great. A big plus. The goal was achieved, which was required. Everything is as simple as 5 kopecks.
  35. individual
    individual 8 March 2014 17: 56
    0
    Russia is too big not to take into account its significance in the face of all the contradictions of the modern world.
    As we demonstrate ourselves, such is our role in politics.
  36. clidon
    clidon 8 March 2014 19: 21
    +1
    The trade patriots simply continue to compare the current Russian army with the Soviet one, the current patriotism with the Soviet one, the current economic and political situation with the Soviet one and they all agree - the army is a pale shadow of the Red Army, patriotism in most of the population is more like worrying about your favorite football team, oil needle economics ...
    They simply do not take into account the other side - we are not opposed by the opponents that were in the 70-80s. This is not the same NATO united force, united by the Soviet threat, not the people who grew up waiting for the siren to sound, not the Western politicians for whom the victory over the East Bloc was the main problem of their life. Everything has changed - now we are the same capital country that is desperately trying grab a piece of the world's pie, in general, even observing some signs of democracy. In general, the same thing, but with its own specifics, powerful revanchist sentiments and a large "energy battery" behind.
  37. Chemicalin23
    Chemicalin23 8 March 2014 20: 55
    0
    And why not assume that the next stop is London, and maybe Washington? *
    Quote: Combat279
    It was not respect for the Russian soldier and the people that brought us to Paris and Berlin ..... and probably we are on the path of new discoveries, but what ??? GDP knows for sure!
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  39. Indifferent
    Indifferent 8 March 2014 21: 24
    -2
    Essentially true, but not as cloudless as the author writes. The West can completely freeze all our known and unknown assets. And we will have a very difficult time. We will have to nationalize in response all the companies owned by Western investors. Is it dangerous. If you press the tail of a large and dangerous dog, it will surely rush! After all, then she had nothing to lose! The US will not want to leave its black parasites without a livelihood. Then the war will begin on their own territory. Everything must be done carefully, warning and calculating the consequences in advance.
    1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 9 March 2014 01: 26
      0
      If you say “dangerous, dangerous” all the time, it’s better to stay at home, keep your head down and not react to the fact that arrogant neighbors are taking away from you part of the corridor, then the kitchen ... There are smart people in the west too. They calculated everything and are unlikely to freeze anything serious. Well, they will freeze the accounts of Yanukovych and KO, any of our oligarchs. Well, and the flag in their hands. Nobody will rush at us because of Ukraine. We are not Iraq.
  40. wot
    wot 8 March 2014 21: 25
    0
    Hello, is it not time to create an office of myth destroyers and a column 5
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  42. ando_bor
    ando_bor 8 March 2014 21: 32
    +5
    I publish my post on 27.11.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX At one forum on a military topic, it seems like people in the subject should know, but they also lived in the virtual, they fed on myths:
    - This is an Internet myth that she (the army) is recovering, she is feeling fine.
    In the Caucasus, in general, it is only nature that looks better than the Army.
    Yes, there are questions and problems, but they are current in nature.
    Son’s battalion;
    the truth is, the son quit his job in a week before this "show", but he says something like that they were engaged without cameras.
    And the fighter stands at 1:09 with the right, I personally know, talked when he came to his son, waited at the checkpoint, and he stood in the outfit.
    The son says "black demobilization" - the last of the draft resigned.
    Kubrick for four with shower and bath, washing machines and vacuum cleaners, salary 12-18 tyr. the conscripts, smart equipment, three sets of clothes of the Special Purpose Party, civilian cooks and cleaners still had it under Serdyukov, they called for their son in the summer of 12, and they only drove the soldier out of combat, and drove him hard.
    I understand that this is not always the case in the complex, but many elements in most parts are present.
  43. alik alik
    alik alik 9 March 2014 00: 07
    0
    far from the RF Armed Forces to the USSR Armed Forces
  44. kocclissi
    kocclissi 9 March 2014 00: 35
    0
    Quote: alik alik
    far from the RF Armed Forces to the USSR Armed Forces
    Tighten and surpass, everything has its time ....
  45. vetlan19
    vetlan19 9 March 2014 02: 26
    0
    Quote: Rus2012
    Wait, enlightened prophets say: the Russian Spirit has awakened!

    Very wonderful words! fellow
  46. smith7
    smith7 9 March 2014 06: 10
    +1
    The article is a straightforward Russian-Putin-patriotic "balm for wounds". No need to relax! There are plenty of shoals in Russia. Unresolved problems are still a wagon and a small cart. They will never end! But now there is a good feeling that Russia is "straightening its back"! I am glad, however ...
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 9 March 2014 08: 19
      +2
      Absolutely, things are not going well now, but it’s also dangerous activity to euphoria,
      There are many problems, as far as Crimea is concerned, I have never met any serious statements about its accession, Russia has enough guarantees for the Russian fleet and the absence of NATO troops both in Crimea and throughout Ukraine. Of course, I would like to join the Crimea with my heart, but according to the mind it is not necessary, to maintain a subsidized region. Decisions are made by Putin and he acts wisely as a general rule for the president. If there is an adequate government in Ukraine, you can agree on everything, but now it is not there and the noise around the Crimea, in my opinion, is a means of pressure, and the option of joining is an extreme case, not a goal.
      1. smith7
        smith7 9 March 2014 08: 48
        0
        On account of "enough guarantees of the presence of the fleet ..." I do not agree. The world is changing. More is needed now! IMHO, a "subsidized region" is better than an uncontrolled and not loyal neighboring government. In Russia itself, the fifth prokhorov-bulk column with "kreakly" is a terrible crap, and then there is "a brotherly-neighbor state with common historical roots"!
  47. smith7
    smith7 9 March 2014 08: 40
    +1
    By the way, there was a feeling that a number of VO readers (forum participants) read it without thinking too much into the essence of what was written, but simply looking for "familiar" letters. If the "familiar letters" have formed into "understandable phrases", then "put a plus sign", and if the phrase presupposes a minimal activation of "gray cells" ((c) Poirot, A. Christie), then the meaning escapes. The discussed material is voluminous, requires a prepared, intellectually developed and comprehensively erudite reader, and not just a fan, for example, of Tolkien's work. In any case, respect to the material! PS I ask you not to count it as self-promotion ...
  48. The centurion
    The centurion 9 March 2014 11: 35
    0
    Quote: Arkan
    Myth-making has always been and never has been impartial. Some create myths, others, by their deeds, destroy them.

    With all this, we are a nation of myth-makers and myth-thinkers. Only a harsh reality is capable of clearing brains and freeing itself from some myths, as well as the bitter and sweet tales invented by Russian storytellers, to many (even far from everyone). Unfortunately, but it is very likely that in the near future we will have to part with another myth and another sweet Russian fairy tale, namely: Ukraine is a fraternal country, Ukrainians are a fraternal people. However, we are not used to, this is not the first time. Here for example the link: http://topwar.ru/33813-perehod-kazachego-voyska-getmanschiny-na-moskovskuyu-sluz
    hbu.html