France does not plan to terminate military contracts with Russia

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French President Francois Hollande, answering journalists' questions following the EU summit on the situation in Ukraine, said that the agreement to sell two Mistral-type ships to the Russian Federation was not suspended.

"France is in compliance with the provisions of the signed contracts. We are not yet at the stage when we need to cancel them, and we would like to avoid it," said ITAR-TASS, quoting Francois Hollande.

The French president also said that the European Union is not currently considering the issue of imposing an arms embargo on Russia. “The measures [of a sanction nature] are of a phased nature. There are those that are taken immediately, and this was done by the EU Foreign Affairs Council, and those that the European Council approved for implementation. These measures can be terminated if the path of dialogue is resumed”, - he said, answering the question about the prospects of the EU arms embargo against Russia.

As it was reported, on Thursday, March 6, in Brussels, they were arguing all day about what sanctions to hit Russia, but didn’t really think of anything, except, perhaps, that the negotiations on visas and the new partnership agreement were suspended, the Russia 24 TV channel reminds ". So the threat to introduce some sanctions remained threats.

In principle, they could introduce sanctions, but only theoretically. Practically for this, it was necessary to secure unanimity on this issue of all EU countries, but two problems arose. Firstly, as it turned out, not all in the EU share the accusations against Russia, and not everyone believes that it is necessary to support the Kiev self-proclaimed authorities.

Mistral class ships are universal amphibious assault carriers. In service with the French Navy are three such ships. "Mistral" can perform the tasks of landing troops on land, take helicopters. It can be a command center and a floating hospital. The ship can accommodate troops numbering 450 people and 16 heavy helicopters, which are provided for the hangar.

The length of the ship's hull is 199 meters, its full displacement exceeds 21 thousand tons. "Mistral" is equipped with diesel engines with a capacity of more than 20 thousands of horsepower, which allow it to reach speeds up to 19 units. Ships of this class have anti-aircraft and rocket weapons.

In December 2010, Russia and France signed a contract, according to which our country buys two such ships. The deal amounted to 1 billion 100 million euros. Two more Mistral are to be built at the Baltic Shipyard under license. The first ship may become part of the Russian Pacific fleet already this year, it is called "Vladivostok".
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  1. +15
    7 March 2014 10: 48
    Still they would dare, rainbow paddles! angry
    1. Tumbleweed
      +11
      7 March 2014 10: 53
      And what ... more Mistral will buy them wassat Serdyukov firmly tied France to Russia with this contract
      1. +20
        7 March 2014 11: 04
        Quote: tumbleweed
        Serdyukov firmly tied France to Russia with this contract

        It turned out completely unexpected. It turns out that he (Taburetkin) is useful at the political level.
        1. +5
          7 March 2014 11: 35
          Quote: Hedgehog
          It turned out completely unexpected. It turns out that he (Taburetkin) is useful at the political level.

          Who said that Russia does not need the Mistral? wassat
          In the fight, all means are good.
          Result:
          MOSCOW, March 7, RIA FederalPress. Arrangements for the delivery of two French Mistral helicopter carriers to the Russian Navy remain in force. This statement was made by French President Francois Hollande.

          France complies with the agreements it has signed and would like to avoid a state of affairs in which it is necessary to break the agreements, cites Hollande’s words “Lenta.ru”. EU countries have so far agreed on soft sanctions against Moscow.
          1. +2
            7 March 2014 12: 01
            Quote: Sukhov
            Who said that Russia does not need the Mistral?

            Frankly, and I thought so. If you have your own achievements and projects, then why the Mistral? But later he changed his mind a little. This is the same technology. Similarly with IVECO. Although there is somewhat worse with this. Like Russia, 2 pieces of aircraft does not sell to China, unprofitable. smile
            1. +1
              7 March 2014 12: 11
              Quote: Hedgehog
              Frankly, and I thought so.

              To make the right decision, we need information that is reliable and in full.
              Access to such data is significantly limited.
              hi
            2. +13
              7 March 2014 12: 27
              Quote: Hedgehog
              If you have your own achievements and projects, then why the Mistral?

              Yes, they are no longer really left, one outrage of "Gren" is worth something.
              At the expense of Mistralek - the French immediately realized that the name "Sevastopol" was not given for nothing to the ship under construction - after all, logically, it should have been "Novorossiysk" - but strange Russians do nothing just like that ...
        2. +11
          7 March 2014 12: 06
          Quote: Hedgehog
          It turned out completely unexpected. It turns out that he (Taburetkin) is useful at the political level.


          The paths of the Lord are inscrutable ... Now the warlike frogmen with two hands rest against the imposition of sanctions against Russia at the EU summit.

          "The leaders of Germany, France, Spain and Italy are definitely against the application of sanctions against RussiaAt the same time, in words, they take a very tough stance with regard to Russia's actions, but at the level of actions, it is they who are still hindering the process "

          At the same time, the countries of Central and Eastern Europe strongly support sanctions.
          EU sanctions against Russia are opposed by Germany, France, Spain and Italy

          France slows down sanctions against Putin
          1. -1
            7 March 2014 12: 13
            Quote: Ascetic
            EU sanctions against Russia are opposed by Germany, France, Spain and Italy

            First enough by the list, rest essentially - sevyavki.
            In Europe, only Germany works, and the rest ...
            1. +3
              7 March 2014 12: 34
              Quote: Sukhov
              In Europe, only Germany works, and the rest.

              Perhaps I do not agree with you, Europe is working, not only Germany.
              1. +4
                7 March 2014 17: 58
                Quote: saturn.mmm
                Quote: Sukhov
                In Europe, only Germany works, and the rest.

                Perhaps I do not agree with you, Europe is working, not only Germany.


                You have the right hi
                But!

                European Union - GDP $ 18,5 billion (100%)

                Germany - GDP $ 3,7 billion (~ 20%)
                France - GDP $ 2,8 billion (~ 15%)
                Great Britain - GDP $ 2,8 billion (~ 15%)
                Three states ~ 50% of GDP
                ........................................
                Poland - GDP $ 0,0 billion (~ 2%)
                ........................................
                Lithuania - GDP $ 0,0 billion (~ 0%)
                Latvia - GDP $ 0,0 billion (~ 0%)
                Estonia - GDP $ 0,0 billion (~ 0%)

                The table shows.
                Who works. They are sane. They have something to lose. It is possible and necessary to negotiate with them.
                Syavka has nothing to lose. So they are yapping. And the campaign, they make money on it.

                Yet again. In Europe, only we and the Germans fought as an adult, because we can do it.
                So it’s clear who needs to be negotiated with,
                to be at war on one side of the front line ...


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      2. upasika1918
        +7
        7 March 2014 11: 06
        Not Serdyukov! GDP and Sarkozy.
        1. +10
          7 March 2014 11: 36
          Quote: upasika1918
          Not Serdyukov! GDP and Sarkozy.

          in-in. and how much of the GDP was then poured mud. in general, lately it seems that Vladimir Vladimirovich has been thinking through any step of our policy not two, but five to ten steps forward. maybe Vanga started up in the Kremlin, maybe not, but I wouldn’t have played chess with Putin ... otherwise you can look very pale like any Obama ...
      3. +2
        7 March 2014 13: 06
        What does Serdyukov have to do with it. They pushed the purchase at the very top, you know who.
      4. +2
        7 March 2014 14: 47
        Serdyukov still need to put up a monument. Look like la ... the French took the eggs. It was necessary to buy a little more forever. Makaro ... the Italians would also be silent in the tube.
        Of course, all a joke. But there is no silver lining.
      5. +3
        7 March 2014 15: 12
        The British are against the same thing, but the Germans are silent, they are sorry for the sales markets, their cars are very well bought from us.
    2. +14
      7 March 2014 11: 01
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      Still they would dare, rainbow paddles!

      It's not that they dare or not. Money above all. The amount of the contract is such that it will deafeningly hit the French economy. Only a fool will chop the head of a hen laying golden eggs.
      1. +2
        7 March 2014 12: 16
        "Loot triumphs over evil."
        Yes, somehow there was little doubt that France would decide on something radical against Russia, and Germany too. They are too much tied to Russia.
    3. +8
      7 March 2014 11: 06
      Yes, they will strangle themselves for the loot, now attack France, the contracts still will not be canceled!))))
      1. poccinin
        +3
        7 March 2014 11: 40
        sure. factories are loaded. people are working. they are not really dabbles to chop the chicken that brings the golden eggs. "business is business"
    4. +1
      7 March 2014 11: 23
      It turns out there are sensible people in the Gelesbian Union of Europe! Not all brains profiled at Gelesbian parties!
      1. +1
        7 March 2014 16: 52
        Money is money! Why not their brother ... European values? damn pancake .... if they can UDC and the Papuans will be sold!
    5. AVV
      +5
      7 March 2014 11: 24
      Nobody wants to lose money, Moscow would have demanded a forfeit in the event of a contract failure !!!
      1. +7
        7 March 2014 12: 18
        Quote: AVV
        Nobody wants to lose money, Moscow would have demanded a forfeit in the event of a contract failure !!!


        There is an initial contract for the amount of 1.2 billion euros. And what a penalty is scary to think. And contracts for thermal imaging cameras, inertial guidance systems. Onboard equipment for the SU-30 supplied to India. The French want to buy Krasnopol from us. There are many links to helicopters and maritime topics. For a long time there has been cooperation in space, especially on satellites for various purposes ... So everything will not be so smooth if, under pressure from the United States, they abandon all projects. They themselves will lose more.
        1. +1
          7 March 2014 14: 11
          Greetings, Stanislav!
          And the local "Esperd all over the place" rolled out such a statement -
          Quote: Wedmak
          Quote:
          Why block? In this connection? With the events in the Crimea? And what side will they tie it to the Mistrals?

          Quote: Pimply
          [The arms embargo includes suspension under contracts. Moreover, already paid deliveries without a refund. Deal freezes

          But the French do not yet know ... what laughing
          1. +1
            7 March 2014 15: 41
            Quote: Ptah
            But the French do not yet know ..


            Hollande is probably not aware that without a refund ...
            "France is complying with the provisions of the signed contracts. We are not yet at the stage when they need to be canceled - and we would like to avoid this."


            Vladivostok is already at sea. It makes a test exit from the French port of Saint-Nazaire. If there is an embargo, the French are left with an unnecessary box without weapons, especially since the feed is made at the Baltic plant and the bow is in Saint-Nazaire (if not messed up) and it joins there.
            And if we refuse to launch French Helios (satellites of view reconnaissance) by Protons from Baikonur and Unions with Kuru, then they will scratch their heads ... Hollande knows about this. The launch of the Union through a joint venture between Starsem and Kuru will cost 20 million euros, and with the help of Ariane-5, more than 100 million euros. Then let the Earth's rotation be launched from Palmachim in the opposite direction ... Cheap and angry! Even if we laugh at the Great Space Powers! Moreover, the Israeli rocketry has French roots.
        2. +2
          7 March 2014 15: 12
          Ascetic
          Long time cooperation


          don’t say already, since 1993 we have been working with the French, there are billions of euros there as contracts with Rosoboron and our Russian Defense Ministry, and if Olandik still decides, then workers from Saint-Nazaire will score the remaining 15% of the rating of Oland in one place


          PS- Although if this happens, I will be very saddened
    6. +2
      7 March 2014 11: 34
      Still they would dare, rainbow paddles!


      Do not be so vicious. Unlike the USA, Europe is well aware that it is losing. And he will try to get away from economic sanctions. Be polite and you will be rewarded.
    7. RND
      +1
      7 March 2014 14: 45
      Quote: Dazdranagon
      Still they would dare, rainbow paddles! angry

      And friends of the p. Friendship is friendship, but denyuzhki are apart ... Ha ha ha !!!
    8. jjj
      0
      7 March 2014 23: 53
      Today, the introduction of sanctions from the West is required not only by the Communists, but also part of the business. Then entire sectors of the economy will revive, the infrastructure will improve, and in general Russia will become richer. All this is now slowing down. But with the introduction of sanctions, there is a chance to really turn the national economy towards the West with its tail, and face people
  2. +18
    7 March 2014 10: 49
    In general, as always, friendship is friendship, and money apart!
    The French and Germans, their wallets will not give offense!
  3. +2
    7 March 2014 10: 51
    Here is another plus from this deal.
    1. Captain
      +4
      7 March 2014 12: 19
      It turned out to be a good barge, now in St. Petersburg it will be retrofitted and ready

      1. -1
        7 March 2014 16: 54
        Just could not understand why the Russian Navy is a carcass afloat? And can’t they build it themselves? But ... it seems that quite a few people have made good money on this contract!
        1. 0
          8 March 2014 00: 37
          Yes, they can and can build, but what do you think - for how long? And the French are just handsome. Year of business and voila
        2. 0
          12 March 2014 13: 59
          Mistral is a "ram carrier" (natural rams, 5 columns, oligarchs, etc.), we will complete the construction, load all the rams and send them back. rams in payment for abandoning the 2nd ram carrier.
          1. 0
            12 March 2014 14: 56
            No, it's a helicopter carrier, if it's simpler. but in general "Mistral" is the UDC in our classification. After all the necessary procedures, it will not be rams, as you wish to express yourself, but the seamen of the Russian Navy - there are no options. And if you consider them rams, then this is a big mistake.
  4. +3
    7 March 2014 10: 52
    at least nothing will go wrong with thermal imagers
  5. avt
    +23
    7 March 2014 10: 52
    Give him two more ships in a row - he will shut up altogether, and he will recognize Crimea as part of Russia as the fifth, and kiss the sixth in the ass. laughing
    1. +13
      7 March 2014 11: 06
      Give him two more ships in a row - he will shut up altogether, and he will recognize Crimea as part of Russia as the fifth, and kiss the sixth in the ass


      Do not count further! And then after 7 and 8 already banned sites will go feel
      1. alex-kon
        +10
        7 March 2014 11: 20
        After 7 and 8, they themselves will be asked to join Russia. They will immediately be interested in how many grandmas. laughing
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    3. +2
      7 March 2014 11: 34
      Quote: avt
      Give him two more ships in a row - he will shut up altogether, and he will recognize Crimea as part of Russia as the fifth, and kiss the sixth in the ass. laughing


      good
    4. +1
      7 March 2014 15: 18
      avt
      Give him two more ships in a row - he will shut up altogether, and he will recognize Crimea as part of Russia as the fifth, and kiss the sixth in the ass



      Umnichka good
  6. PLO
    0
    7 March 2014 10: 53
    damn it No.
    I was hoping they would pick up the useless Mistral and return the money
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 11: 19
      Well, of course, they can pick it up. give money, never
  7. +3
    7 March 2014 10: 58
    After the imposition of sanctions by France, the paddling pool would have lost so much dough that it could then be safely asserted that France itself had sanctioned itself, the same applies to the rest of Geyropa! Although from people supporting gay, everything can be expected.
  8. Gagarin
    +6
    7 March 2014 11: 02
    Apparently Obama hasn’t got through to everyone.
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 11: 36
      Well, what is Obama ?! His country is only gaining from sanctions, and Europe is losing. So Europeans are trying to get away from Obama’s pressure. They financially lose a lot and create an explosive region at their side.
    2. +1
      7 March 2014 17: 33
      Quote: Gagarin
      Apparently Obama hasn’t got through to everyone.

      Friendship is friendship and money is a love account.
      The French are completely wooden to refuse such a contract.
  9. +1
    7 March 2014 11: 03
    Whether it is good or bad, it is not for me, the overland fuel oil, to judge. But "Vladik" has already entered the first running gear ...
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1eulkj_porte-helicoptere_news
  10. +1
    7 March 2014 11: 03
    "France is complying with the provisions of the signed contracts. We are not yet at the stage when they will need to be canceled and we would like to avoid this."
    Say what you like, but politics in the world makes money! When your wallet is at risk, it's hard to blame someone! And no one will want to impose sanctions to their own harm! You can have even more influence on the country if you give it a loan!
    1. PN
      0
      7 March 2014 11: 43
      That's right, because politics is nothing more than the protection of business.
  11. +5
    7 March 2014 11: 03
    Here are your colleagues and universal values. Grandmas took over. laughing
  12. +3
    7 March 2014 11: 03
    Do the t-72 and t-90 engines correspond to euro4 or what kind of engines do they have there?
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 11: 08
      Quote: valken
      Do the t-72 and t-90 engines correspond to euro4 or what kind of engines do they have there?

      Are they already tuned to drive around Europe? so what the hell is Europe the difference if the T-72 and T-90 come under their own power? Then the price will be Russia-2 and Russia-3 /
    2. +2
      7 March 2014 11: 11
      Quote: valken
      Do the t-72 and t-90 engines correspond to euro4 or what kind of engines do they have there?


      Don’t you care? On their standards for their Europe. hi
      1. sspd
        +1
        7 March 2014 11: 17
        Well, we are polite people ...))
        1. +2
          7 March 2014 11: 29
          Quote: sspd
          Well, we are polite people ...))

          And what, now we have to fart not in Russian: Babakh-babakh, but in French: fyuiii, fyuiii ?? laughing
  13. -4
    7 March 2014 11: 05
    We will equip with equipment and make China
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 15: 38
      They will come in handy themselves, especially on the Black Sea. That's it, "buy and sell" fool
  14. 0
    7 March 2014 11: 08
    Quote: valken
    Do the t-72 and t-90 engines correspond to euro4 or what kind of engines do they have there?


    They already have Euro 6. It’s necessary to bring, otherwise you will have to travel on EU roads wassat
  15. upasika1918
    +2
    7 March 2014 11: 10
    GDP looked forward for 10 moves with these Mistrals. Could we build them ourselves? Yes. But besides iron there is something else. Specialists on the forum, confirm.
    1. +2
      7 March 2014 11: 19
      But besides iron there is something else. Specialists on the forum, confirm.

      As an expert in the field of radio engineering and automated control systems, I confirm that there are more "bookmarks" than rivets.
      1. Alexey Prikazchikov
        +6
        7 March 2014 11: 22
        I confirm as a specialist in the field of radio engineering and ACS


        That is another broad-based Internet specialist.
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    2. -2
      7 March 2014 11: 21
      yeah .. paint =)))) there will not be any French know-how! only the body and power them.
      1. +4
        7 March 2014 15: 28
        ilichstar
        yeah .. paint =)))) there will not be any French know-how! only the case and power them


        You arrived from Mars yesterday, welcome home

        Yes, about the power there is actually something Finnish Wartsila (Wartsila) -if what, experts
    3. 0
      7 March 2014 11: 27
      Only the French say they will give it something after buying Mistral 3 and 4.
  16. Capyar 48315
    0
    7 March 2014 11: 14
    Euro-economy now for complete happiness is not enough just broken contracts. Non-sanctions of course a good thing, but business is business
  17. 0
    7 March 2014 11: 16
    Quote: olp
    damn it No.
    I was hoping they would pick up the useless Mistral and return the money

    and plus a penalty in a multiple amount will be paid extra ... and now France has become Russian ...
    1. 0
      8 March 2014 00: 45
      And then we won't see either Mistrals or money. Or do you have authority over them?
  18. -1
    7 March 2014 11: 16
    France does not plan to terminate military contracts with Russia
    Today, 10: 45
    France has no plans to terminate military contracts with Russia. French President François Hollande, answering journalists' questions following the EU summit on the situation in Ukraine, said that the agreement on the sale of two Mistral-class ships to the Russian Federation had not been suspended.

    This is the whole of Hollande. He is ahead of the Anglo-Saxons for sanctions and at the same time squeaks from the desire to sell us his "mistrals", which we (well, except for Tolik Serdyukov) don’t need. Even the French p.r.os.t.t.u. and are much more decent.
  19. 0
    7 March 2014 11: 17
    A little off topic!
    I don’t know what is there and how France is, but Canada is already boring!

    Canada expels Russian troops, reports CTV News. We are talking about nine military men - one of them taught Russian to Canadian colleagues, eight of them underwent language training.

    A source in the government confirmed that the military was informed of the decision, they have 24 hours to leave Canada.

    The reason for the decision of Ottawa is called the policy of Moscow in the Crimean issue.

    The Canadian authorities were among the first to condemn Russia's decision to send troops to Crimea. On 1 in March, the Federation Council supported the proposal of President Vladimir Putin to introduce the Russian army to the peninsula before the settlement of the political conflict.

    The day before, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper announced that all planned bilateral activities between the Canadian armed forces and the Russian army were suspended. He added that the Canadian government does not recognize the results of the referendum in Crimea on joining Russia, because the region "is currently under illegal military occupation."
    1. +2
      7 March 2014 12: 44
      Naturally, after all, the Russian military would suddenly take and politely take the Ottawa party with the four of us. Will have to hold a referendum Canada will enter the Russian Federation or will be an autonomous republic.
  20. 0
    7 March 2014 11: 17
    haha. Who would doubt
  21. +1
    7 March 2014 11: 17
    France complies with the provisions of the signed contracts.
    Yes, they are for a smaller amount, quietly strangle the entire leadership of NATO, that would not interfere ... Torgash, he is also a trader in France
  22. Gagarin
    -1
    7 March 2014 11: 20
    I have not tried Europe for a long time Russian army stew ..., delivery, sorry on the tanks ...
  23. +3
    7 March 2014 11: 22
    People, what are the EU sanctions against Russia? Are they leaving themselves without oil and gas? And where will they sell their products? Close export to Russia - EU economic suicide. And then our market will finally take China and other Asian countries.
  24. Antibrim
    0
    7 March 2014 11: 26
    they impose sanctions against us, they shut off the gas for 2 weeks, we’ll see how they sing, they are completely wispy.
  25. +1
    7 March 2014 11: 33
    So they already started to slow down. They scared, they see - the object does not respond, now they solve the problem from higher mathematics: how to put pressure on us so that they do not protrude, and at the same time save face and menacingness, but at the same time we can’t stay without gas and the Russian market!
  26. +1
    7 March 2014 11: 39
    By the way, the Vladivostok recently went to sea for its first tests.
    Video http://www.tvc.ru/news/show/id/33293
  27. +5
    7 March 2014 11: 42
    Speaking of Canada’s actions in relation to Russia.
    Just looked, it turns out exports from Canada to Russia are 3 times more than from Russia to Canada.
    This is where you need to look - how competently and it can even be beneficial for Russia to replace Canadian manufacturers with others that are more loyal to Russia.
    And to do it loudly and so that it would be clear to everyone that this is not accidental, but connected with the squeals and actions of Canada itself.
    As there in the song of Vysotsky sings "There are few real violent."
    You look next time thinking will be the head, but not ___ oh
    1. 0
      12 March 2014 14: 06
      He may be offended and say, well, all of you are evil; you will leave us from you.
  28. +2
    7 March 2014 11: 47
    France does not plan to terminate military contracts with Russia - And the meaning ..?
  29. +1
    7 March 2014 12: 14
    As some smart people said: "Only fools and crazy people refuse money ... And even then, not always." Well, you can make it with visas and other bureaucracy, for a month. And there again everything will return to its own circle.
    I liked the Canadians even more. They sent our officers out, refused to participate in the G8 ... "and what could be wrong with that?", And there are no more thoughts.
    This fuss of the States and Europe reminds me more of a childish rhyme:
    You are no longer my friend
    And do not pee in my pot.
    Take your toys
    And go to your girlfriend.
    Mom will buy me a goat
    I won’t show you.
    And the goat’s name is Maroussia,
    I'm afraid of her myself.
  30. +1
    7 March 2014 12: 38
    The French president also said that the EU is not currently considering the introduction of an arms embargo on Russia.
    I look at the sky and see french mirages, leopards rattling across the field and everything under the Russian flag. Two sullen Mistral weather will not play for us, but the loot will have to be paid for them.
  31. 0
    7 March 2014 12: 48
    Breaking the contract is primarily a blow to the French economy. Well, at least something Holland understands
  32. 0
    7 March 2014 12: 52
    An ingenious move: I propose to sell them in Morocco as sea ferries, so that the trickle of migrants from Africa into a geyropu turns into a sweeping black stream.
    1. burn78
      0
      7 March 2014 15: 46
      They already have enough. They already swim under their own power sharashat. laughing
  33. +2
    7 March 2014 13: 00
    In the late seventies, Germany succumbed to the persuasion of the United States and imposed an embargo on the supply of large-diameter pipes to the USSR, as a result, the Soviet Union launched the production of its own pipes, and the United States did not pay the promised money to Germany for embargo damage, since then Germany has not been involved in such scams. I imagine how they bit their elbows and what they heard from their manufacturers.
  34. +1
    7 March 2014 14: 40
    France has its own interests with the US, which is not clear here. It seems that the French are tired of standing with cancer.
  35. kelevra
    0
    7 March 2014 14: 56
    Naturally, such losses will be received that the economy will have to recover more than one year.
  36. 0
    7 March 2014 15: 04
    Quote: Hedgehog
    Quote: tumbleweed
    Serdyukov firmly tied France to Russia with this contract

    It turned out completely unexpected. It turns out that he (Taburetkin) is useful at the political level.

    With a black sheep (stool) -wool shred. Apparently for this he was amnestied.
  37. burn78
    0
    7 March 2014 15: 43
    Everyone needs work. And military contracts are profitable. Weapon manufacturers have a lobby in any government, so there will be some talk with sanctions.
  38. 0
    7 March 2014 15: 50
    Quote: konvalval
    Quote: Hedgehog
    Quote: tumbleweed
    Serdyukov firmly tied France to Russia with this contract

    It turned out completely unexpected. It turns out that he (Taburetkin) is useful at the political level.

    With a black sheep (stool) -wool shred. Apparently for this he was amnestied.

    Minusantu question. Humorous problems?
  39. 0
    7 March 2014 15: 50
    Friendship with NATO is friendship, and tobacco (Economics) apart !!!
  40. +2
    7 March 2014 15: 53
    Indeed, they called the second ship Sevastopol, although the city is not included (for now Yes ) to Russia, is a city of a sovereign country-Ukraine. Maybe, in fact, the Wang started up in the Kremlin belay
  41. +2
    7 March 2014 16: 40
    The following will be called Nikolaev, Odessa, Kherson .... laughing And maybe "KIEV" will again come out into the vastness of the world ocean !!!!
    1. 0
      12 March 2014 14: 10
      Let's order an inflatable boat in France and call it
      Washington.
  42. 0
    7 March 2014 17: 07
    Quote: Hedgehog
    This is the same technology. Similarly with IVECO.

    There has already been an article on this topic, and as it turns out, the receipt of Western technologies, announced by Storetkin, together with Mistral, turned out to be LIPOY! An excerpt from the article - “it was asserted that Russia would be given not only modern systems, in particular, the SENIT-9 BIUS and the SIC-21 command control system, but also the related technologies associated with them. However, in reality, it turned out that all these promises turned into bubble." And this is not the first time that we are NOT LET'S LOOK at Western technologies (Remember our anticipated purchase of Opel, which the Americans did not allow. And Taburetkin and Co knew about this, but it seems that they had to make a purchase behind a talk shop about technologies techniques - all the signs of a SAW operation!
  43. miraculous
    0
    7 March 2014 17: 10
    the imaginary ideals of democracy fade in front of a big dough) How typical is this for the West
  44. -2
    7 March 2014 18: 37
    People understand only the state. Loch I’m squeezing out a state that can give horseradish a throw! guys from leisby island! :-)
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 20: 13
      For spelling
  45. +3
    7 March 2014 21: 35
    UDC - at present these are the ships that all developed countries pay close attention to and we are not the only ones who buy them, construction technologies are the main thing, and even free capacities in shipbuilding, we are our scrap metal .... There will be capacities, we will sculpt our technologies, we will come up with a new one, and now ... "Mistrals" with "our stuffing" will show themselves if something happens. And in general, the UDC is an intermediate link, so to speak, a small helicopter carrier (even an aircraft carrier, like the Australian "Canberra). In general, it is too early to find fault with something that has not yet been seen in business, the future (operation) will still show both the weak and strong sides of the deal ...
    1. 0
      8 March 2014 01: 07
      And if someone declares with complete conviction that "like he (a helicopter carrier with a dock, with a hangar, a hospital, a com center, etc.) we can't get it" - so only those Pithecanthropus, whose idea of ​​"war" ends a little club (mainly songs of praise about the native Kalash). So this UDC is right for their souls. just so and so they are chased through their holes.
  46. w2000
    -1
    8 March 2014 04: 25
    In vain you rejoice, and even more so justify Serdyukov, who committed this idiotic deal. After the adoption of Crimea as part of the Russian Federation, France may freeze the deal, and we will not receive the ships or billions that have already been paid for them. This is the most powerful lever of pressure on Russia, much more tangible than all other possible EU sanctions combined. And France in this regard will not have any remorse if the arms embargo against Russia is adopted in the EU. Like we are forced to obey the decision of Brussels. And these ships, built with Russian money, will enter the French fleet. Those. there will be a similar situation with the S-300, which we did not sell to Iran, in connection with the UN sanctions, with the only difference being that the Iranians did not manage to pay for the delivery.
  47. 0
    8 March 2014 04: 59
    Quote: w2000
    if the arms embargo against Russia is adopted in the EU.

    To do this, all EU members must vote unanimously. France itself simply does not vote and that’s all, and not one of it.
  48. 0
    8 March 2014 18: 38
    Still, France would terminate the contracts with the Russian Federation. This is a billionth loss ... smile

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