In Donetsk riots popular revolt

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In Donetsk riots popular revolt

Mass protests are being prepared in Donetsk: the townspeople want to support the “people's governor” Pavel Gubarev, who was arrested the day before. Kiev authorities accuse him of violently changing the constitutional system and seizing state buildings. Dozens of Gubarev's comrades were under arrest.

Spetsnaz "Alpha" The Security Service of Ukraine is in a hurry, Pavel Gubarev is handcuffed. He does not have time to get acquainted with the court order, unsuccessfully demands to wait for his lawyer. The arrest is watched live and the wife of the national governor.

Catherine is sure that this is not the end of the struggle. “I know Paul, he will go to the end. He cannot let people down, he cannot be broken by detention. If he cannot speak, I will speak instead of him,” she said.

Pavel Gubarev is taken away in an unknown direction in a car with Kiev numbers. Detained for testimony and his close associates. In the evening news about the arrest of the leader of the Donbas people's militia collects several hundred citizens from the local administration of the SBU. Inside are only official defenders of the people's governor.

“Now we are waiting, we ask that the ombudsman be launched from us there to make sure that he was not beaten, tortured or subjected to any kind of repression. So that everything was legal,” one of the activists said.

The list of charges against the leader of the national militia is becoming known. He is charged with criminal cases under article 109, part of 1 - “Actions aimed at forcibly changing or overthrowing the constitutional order, or seizing state power, and under article 341 -“ Capturing state or public buildings or structures. ”Surprisingly, but for such in Kiev, activists of the Maidan are given heroic titles, but in Donetsk, those who disagree with the new government are imprisoned.

After half an hour of negotiations, lawyer Gubareva Elena Pryadko leaves the SBU building. “We were not allowed to see Pavel. We don’t know where he is,” she said. This news takes people out of themselves. Townspeople block the road, and right next to the SBU building there are policemen. The police gradually pushes people and frees the roadway. Act tough enough. Taking the ring, activists one by one and in groups are closed in special buses. To the rescue of the detainees rush the rest. Convoy blocking everything that comes handy. People turn over garbage containers, carry trees, move cars. Departure is closed, de-energizing the trolley bus.

As a result, the police surrender and release the detainees. At this point, confirmed the information that Gubareva still brought to Kiev. Apparently, this was done specifically in order to bring down the glow in the center of Donbass. Pavel Gubarev himself on the eve of his arrest foresaw such a development of events: “I’m not afraid of myself personally - I’m afraid that our protest will be beheaded and merged. That's what I’m afraid of!”

Activists of the national militia, friends and colleagues, Pavel, promised to gather in the coming weekend a rally of thousands of people in his defense. Just because they will not give up the new government.
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  1. +119
    7 March 2014 08: 58
    Again double standards ... Kiev and Maidan can, Donetsk and Kharkov, no ... Therefore, I was in favor of sending troops until the pieces on the board were mixed ... The West is trying to secure an oligarchic junta in power as a temporary factor ...
    Threat. I understand that the political-military entry is a delicate issue and it must be resolved with extreme caution, thinking on the part of the military, I'm afraid that time is running out for an opportunity ...
    1. jjj
      +107
      7 March 2014 09: 04
      It is not administration buildings that are to be captured, but banks, communication lines, and media. By general strikes, the situation is heating up. It's time to act like an adult
      1. zzz
        zzz
        +55
        7 March 2014 09: 21
        It is necessary to declare a general strike, let all the factories and mines stand up, and everyone at the rally unlimited, the only way!
        1. +37
          7 March 2014 10: 01
          It is terrifying to watch how everything in Ukraine turned upside down. Until recently, the West supported the "peaceful" Maidan with their seizures of local administrations. Now those who fight for their rights are condemned and threaten with criminal prosecution! I think that the Banderlog who came to power will aggravate the situation and humiliate the Russian-speaking population, thereby signing their own verdict and another revolution ...
          1. +17
            7 March 2014 10: 29
            Now the leaders are trying to calm them down. They need a semblance of fair elections for reporting to customers. Can you imagine WHAT will begin after their legitimization?
            1. Lesnik
              +10
              7 March 2014 13: 37
              There won’t be any election (fair or dishonest) (at least this year) because the election is a three-headed verdict, and they understand this very well, followed by a jail time.
              1. part
                +1
                7 March 2014 19: 04
                And imprisonment, along the way will be ...
            2. infinite silence ...
              +1
              8 March 2014 01: 08
              WHAT will begin after their legitimization

              the answer to this question was given by Kolomoisky's deputy, businessman Boris Filatov, who was recently appointed deputy “governor of the Dnipropetrovsk region” ... He proposed his own recipe for “calming” the rebellious South-East of Ukraine. Briefly, his proposal, which he published on his Facebook, boils down to the following recipe: “Now we make various promises, no landings from the Maidan. No extremist statements. It is necessary to give the scum any promises, guarantees and make any concessions .... ... And hang up ... They must be hung later "

              The answer is comprehensive! What else to say?...
          2. part
            +2
            7 March 2014 19: 02
            This is Putin’s response to the field of information war !!! Gives the world community (which is not in quotation marks) look from all angles at the double standards of the USA !!!!!! This is cooler than sending troops !!!
          3. Andrei Forge 67
            +3
            7 March 2014 22: 15
            If the empty-headed Yaros breaks into the arsenal, then there will be a massacre! Specialists must be sent to shoot to produce dog death for dogs!
        2. +17
          7 March 2014 10: 29
          Moreover, no one is going to pay anyone!
          People need to stock up on food and medicine and water, and not go like zombies to the factories of the oligarchs ....
        3. +2
          7 March 2014 10: 29
          Moreover, no one is going to pay anyone!
          People need to stock up on food and medicine and water, and not go like zombies to the factories of the oligarchs ....
        4. +37
          7 March 2014 11: 07
          The hunger riot is not far off, I already wrote about it and it will be, since Yaytsenyuk and his gang concluded an agreement with the IMF on their terms, that is. tariffs for electric energy will be doubled, for gas, heating, water, sewage and a quart fee, as well as all social payments are frozen, benefits, subsidies will be cut, pensions and scholarships will be indicated, and the retirement age will increase by 2 years and then in stages. Now think about how people pay for all utilities and how, but not zaplotish, turn off. It was already lacking, and now even move to the forest and a swarm of dugouts. And if the enterprises are closed, then it will generally be a country of criminals. homeless people and anarchy. There is a genocide of the people under the leadership of the CIA and other henchmen from Europe, the masses decided to see it. And now think about whether the people will rise or not, I think that it was Maidan Chi Euro Maidan in Kiev, this will seem like a small meeting. The putschists themselves will pass the verdict and he will, they will all sit for a long time. Or the country will fall apart.
          1. +14
            7 March 2014 11: 54
            Putin often needs to be reminded to Obama under what pretexts did NATO invade Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, or even the old in Vietnam. We have the same situation, i.e. part of the people of Ukraine demanded help from Russia to protect them, facts on the face, this is an armed coup, lawlessness of self-defense and the right sector, but the Americans and Europeans are falling in the cold and pretending that they see nothing or do not understand that they have other facts and comments, those that the opposition gave them, but this is pure falsehood and a reversal of events. Well, of course, and who recognizes the actions of Russia and the Crimean authorities as legitimate, because the Americans have invested $ 5 billion in the coup, and if Ukraine is without Crimea, then the money will fly off the drain. America and the European strategies now recognize any power, even Adolbf Hitler, if it were licking it was in their interests.
            1. +4
              7 March 2014 12: 38
              Quite right, a democratic society is being built on the Outskirts, and this is democracy in its purest form, those who seized power will not be alienated with people and will necessarily give a command to shoot and police will shoot at their people, who do not like the power of gangsters and judges (not to be confused with Jews) and this government has no moral restrictions, unlike even Yanukovych.
            2. +1
              7 March 2014 12: 38
              Quite right, a democratic society is being built on the Outskirts, and this is democracy in its purest form, those who seized power will not be alienated with people and will necessarily give a command to shoot and police will shoot at their people, who do not like the power of gangsters and judges (not to be confused with Jews) and this government has no moral restrictions, unlike even Yanukovych.
            3. Sigismund
              +2
              7 March 2014 18: 02
              They won’t get Crimea, under any circumstances. The South-East should start rising itself, only then we can help.
            4. +1
              7 March 2014 18: 21
              It is necessary to explain not Obama to Merkel (a useless lesson), but to SIMPLE CITIZENS OF THE WORLD through the media, the Internet, and other means of communication.
          2. poccinin
            +4
            7 March 2014 11: 58
            kick out a wedge. maybe then the people of Ukraine will wake up and sweep away this gang of banderlogs.
          3. Anastasios
            +5
            7 March 2014 13: 41
            Putin needed to clearly say that the loans granted to the INDEPENDENT AUTHORITIES would not be paid back ... This will affect the western man in the street.
            1. +5
              7 March 2014 17: 18
              Western man believes his media ....
              1. +2
                7 March 2014 17: 25
                Quote: aleks 62
                Western man believes his media ....

                And to hell with him along with the media. Yes
                All the same, you can’t re-educate, although you certainly need to try to convey the truth. Look in Ukraine and Russian channels broadcast and the Internet at all ... Many do not want to listen (and see) ...
                The main thing is that the western man in the street and his rulers believed in legal capacity Russian Strategic Rocket Forces!
              2. Andrei Forge 67
                0
                7 March 2014 22: 27
                Soon it will be bad for Westerners themselves. Looking at the nats in Ukraine they will soon be cooler! Arabs will bend them into the pose that they love pi-si!
              3. 0
                8 March 2014 01: 21
                Quote: aleks 62
                Western man believes his media ....


                the layman in any country believes in his media.
                you have a Ukrainian flag, how do you react to this? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNfw-QeWasE
        5. +7
          7 March 2014 17: 19
          Quote: jjj
          By general strikes, the situation is heating up. It's time to act like an adult

          Quote: zzz
          It is necessary to declare a general strike, let all the factories and mines stand up, and everyone at the rally unlimited, the only way!

          Absolutely accurate definition! good
          In the meantime, relatively few go to protests. Malova will be!
          Donetsk needs at least 100 thousand demonstrations with beaten cops (they are demoralized now), and a constant unlimited rally in the center.
          Then, of course, there will be an effect.
          Or maybe there are too few who want to go to Russia? Or, at least doesn't want banderlogs?
          Not ripe? Well ripen. Yes Here recently they wrote correctly on the site that apparently there was little g ... sniffed over the years of independence (for which, incidentally, they voted in both the Donbass and Kharkov), that, they say, it is necessary to go through poverty and humiliation in order to mature.
      2. +2
        7 March 2014 10: 30
        Moreover, no one is going to pay anyone!
      3. +1
        7 March 2014 10: 30
        Moreover, no one is going to pay anyone!
      4. +10
        7 March 2014 10: 40
        Quote: jjj
        banks, communication lines, media. By general strikes, the situation is heating up. It's time to act like an adult

        ... the revision has not yet matured!
        Everyone is looking at the uncle and looking back. Type- "and maybe it will resolve?"
        EVERYTHING! Basta, not a step further! Only forward!!!
        1. poccinin
          +1
          7 March 2014 11: 59
          NAPOLEON is not there yet. He has not approached but promised.
      5. ed65b
        +11
        7 March 2014 10: 48
        Quote: jjj
        It is not administration buildings that are to be captured, but banks, communication lines, and media. By general strikes, the situation is heating up. It's time to act like an adult

        plus to this, the Russian special services organize financing of the protest movement, create battle groups to torment cops, threaten the families and children of police officers with the aim of persuading the people or dismissing them from service. That is, to act exactly according to the Maidan scenario. With hammer and stones.
        1. +20
          7 March 2014 11: 26
          Well, it is not necessary to threaten families, we are not degenerates, but like the Maydanites, omitting the cops and rapporteurs is now a holy thing! Against the armed Bandera, they were blown away and described, but against the cultural and ordinary people are heroes! We must restrain them here too!
          Although we in Russia would also do well to take an example in something from Ukraine
          1. ed65b
            +8
            7 March 2014 12: 15
            Quote: Thompson
            Well, you don’t need to threaten families, we are not geeks,

            I agree, got excited. hi
            1. ekzorsist
              +1
              7 March 2014 23: 32
              Quote: ed65b
              I agree, got excited.

              ... Well, why got excited ??? Alas in war as in war ...
              And it is not necessary to say that this is not a war, etc. ... this is a war and a real one, and the sooner everyone understands this, the faster and more adequately they will be able to react and fight back. Well, in war ... with "clean hands" ... or "with peaceful intentions" ... isn't it funny? It's like in the Bible - "hit on the left cheek, substitute the right ...", only they don't finish the ending - "... hand, dodge the blow and give back so that for the next 30 years it would not even be appropriate to even think about repeating it . "
              So all methods are good if they are effective and avoid unnecessary losses.
              Indeed, the seizure of buildings is governing ... an ineffective measure, the seizure of communication and telecommunication centers, banks, highways, the organization of armed resistance groups or the people's police (whatever you call it) that must tightly control not only the city and its suburbs, but also the districts, is necessary. .., round-the-clock work of the headquarters.
              Monitoring the actions and movements of employees of the local SBU, without cooperation with local law enforcement agencies, it is problematic for any visitors to carry out any actions.
          2. +7
            7 March 2014 16: 16
            Purely cop psychology. Serve. Tomorrow the third force, they will take power, and before it, they will stretch their hands for a hump behind a small hill.
        2. 0
          8 March 2014 01: 29
          plus to this, the Russian special services organize financing of the protest movement, create battle groups to torment cops, threaten the families and children of police officers with the aim of persuading people or dismissing them from service. That is, to act exactly according to the Maidan scenario. With hammer and stones. [/ Quote]

          you have ten pluses.
          sadly
          I am ashamed of you, those who call for violence.
          are not enough for you hundreds of blind men and three hundred missing?

          minus, from me will not wane.
          1. ed65b
            0
            8 March 2014 10: 29
            Quote: pl675
            minus, from me will not wane.

            Why? vice versa plus.
      6. +1
        7 March 2014 11: 19
        Russia has merged the east of Ukraine, I’m afraid that Crimea will be merged. There it is necessary to send GRU special forces, it’s not for nothing that 300 thugs arrived in Kiev, they can kill the entire top of the Crimea at night, this is very serious.
        1. ed65b
          +3
          7 March 2014 12: 16
          Quote: shtanko.49
          Russia has merged the east of Ukraine, I’m afraid that Crimea will be merged. There it is necessary to send GRU special forces, it’s not for nothing that 300 thugs arrived in Kiev, they can kill the entire top of the Crimea at night, this is very serious.

          Countermeasures have already been taken. Well, if the GDP calculated the situation, then what did you think of before that?
          1. Irtysh
            +14
            7 March 2014 12: 59
            Maidan shakes Ukraine with its own hands, thereby pouring water on the mill of the Russian Federation.

            I propose to look at the situation with a calm look:
            - Russia can’t stupidly enter troops, it would hurt everything and Russia would become an occupier
            - Maidan by its actions makes the situation nervous, uncontrollable.
            - The economy of Ukraine is completely bent.
            - The population, even the most calm, lose their nerves and open their eyes.
            - further referenda, requests from Russia for protection, etc.
            - after all this, any actions of Putin become justified and legitimate in relation to the people of Ukraine.

            Only very sorry for the simple brothers of Ukrainians, but this path will have to go. Otherwise, the fascist reptile cannot be defeated.
            1. +1
              7 March 2014 13: 26
              - Russia can’t stupidly enter troops, it would hurt everything and Russia would become an occupier


              So what? Amers, Caucasians can, but we can’t be a Sivolap? We are already aggressors. Ask any zapadents. What a very long time ago the aggressors. Even when the peaceful knights, who traveled to cross with us with crosses, were let down under the ice on Lake Peipsi. So maybe it’s worth it to show them what real aggression is. Moreover, we do not take someone else's - we return our own.

              - Maidan by its actions makes the situation nervous, uncontrollable.
              - The economy of Ukraine is completely bent.


              But Libya was not enough for our borders. Enough of all our smaller brothers like the Kyrgyz and Tajiks.

              - The population, even the most calm, lose their nerves and open their eyes.
              - further referenda, requests from Russia for protection, etc.


              And who will organize it? If the prison leaders are sitting, or they will already be in the ground.

              - after all this, any actions of Putin become justified and legitimate in relation to the people of Ukraine.


              And you have to put a bunch of people to turn a kind of European Afghanistan into something more or less digestible for life. And to get the devastated territory, which will have to spend a lot of money on restoration of infrastructure. Moreover, as I said earlier, there will be no referendum. The fascists will squeeze everyone there, and no one will be able to squeak. They have experience.
              1. +1
                7 March 2014 15: 42
                Yes, Ukrainians must show that they resist the Nazis by force, blood must be shed, no matter how cynical. Only then do we have every right to enter to protect them and restore order. And if you obediently bend down, we will really be occupants. You can’t be big Ukrainians than Ukrainians themselves. As it was with the Bulgarians in 1877. Moreover, the junta leads the country and the remnants of the army to a split itself. I agree that they do not hiss there - ignore.
                1. zvp2007
                  0
                  7 March 2014 20: 36
                  the junta leads the country and the remnants of the army to a split itself

                  Is it yourself? That’s the question, in my opinion all the acts of her propaganda are aimed precisely at heating up the atmosphere in the country (talking about the language in such a situation, you can’t call it a provocation) and, as a result, repeating the Yugoslav scenario even more terrible and large-scale option.
            2. +1
              7 March 2014 17: 49
              I completely agree. Ukraine must itself "mature" and rise from the knees on which the fascists put them. If the victory is too easy and given by the wrong hands, it will not be appreciated.
            3. +1
              7 March 2014 17: 49
              I completely agree. Ukraine must itself "mature" and rise from the knees on which the fascists put them. If the victory is too easy and given by the wrong hands, it will not be appreciated.
            4. +2
              7 March 2014 20: 58
              Quote: Irtysh
              Maidan shakes Ukraine with its own hands, thereby pouring water on the mill of the Russian Federation.

              I propose to look at the situation with a calm look:
              - Russia can’t stupidly enter troops, it would hurt everything and Russia would become an occupier
              - Maidan by its actions makes the situation nervous, uncontrollable.
              - The economy of Ukraine is completely bent.
              - The population, even the most calm, lose their nerves and open their eyes.
              - further referenda, requests from Russia for protection, etc.
              - after all this, any actions of Putin become justified and legitimate in relation to the people of Ukraine.


              That's right!
              But Crimea must be overcome in any way - otherwise it turns out just to give yours to break u-b-l-y-d-k-a-m.
          2. +1
            7 March 2014 17: 20
            GDP is waiting .. And I think he has ALL options calculated ... Therefore, the West is in a hurry and is furious ...
        2. +1
          7 March 2014 14: 16
          There is already a battalion "Vostok" and the Special Forces of the GRU General Staff.
          Without panic, it is another matter that another 6 "Academy" aircraft in Latvia were unloaded with full equipment. Looseness of the situation should be expected 100%.
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          2. 0
            7 March 2014 16: 50
            Quote: Zordan
            There is already a battalion "Vostok" and the Special Forces of the GRU General Staff.
            Without panic, it is another matter that another 6 "Academy" aircraft in Latvia were unloaded with full equipment. Looseness of the situation should be expected 100%.


            In addition, in the Baltic States, the United States doubled the number of fighters!
          3. 0
            7 March 2014 17: 24
            6 planes "Academy" in Latvia unloaded with full equipment ...
            "The academics have not yet understood what kind of ... they got ... They also really want to live (preferably not crippled ...)
          4. 0
            7 March 2014 19: 40
            Quote: Zordan
            There is already a battalion "Vostok" and Spetsnaz GRU General Staff

            Where did you get this information? And where exactly is "there"?
        3. 0
          7 March 2014 17: 19
          It won't work ... "Polite little green men" don't sleep ...
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      8. Stalker
        +4
        7 March 2014 15: 51
        It is not administration buildings that are to be captured, but banks, communication lines, media

        It is urgent to create the People’s Guard (in the manner of the Red Guard in 1917) ... soldier
      9. +3
        7 March 2014 16: 12
        Ilyich forgot to seize the mail telegraph telephone decree on peace land to the peasants factories workers in principle, it does not matter social. revolution or national
      10. +2
        7 March 2014 19: 23
        It will be difficult for us in the Southeast, the banderas are not going to give up easily, it seems:
        Internal troops deployed in Donetsk and Kharkov
        The press service of the Internal Troops of Ukraine reports: "The main task of military law enforcement officers is to ensure public order in places where mass protests are held, to prevent crimes and violations of public order, to ensure the normal functioning of local self-government bodies ...
        Otherwise, it will be considered as illegal actions that fall under criminal responsibility. "
        The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine strenuously refutes information on the Golden Eagle. There is no connection with the base of the Golden Eagle.

        http://www.anna-news.info/node/13926


        And today, at the Kiev District, I saw a convoy of several hefty army KRAZ with a police escort, walking towards the Odessa highway somewhere. Kungs are closed, similar to KShM, but I will not say for sure.
        The junta was up to something — she was concentrating the army somewhere.
        1. 0
          8 March 2014 03: 57
          There is a version - that in the Crimea, the sea will drop troops. Not for nothing from the Crimea to Odessa pulled all the boats that could pull. Volumes roughly converge. Would not oversleep it on the Black Sea Fleet.
      11. Andrei Forge 67
        0
        7 March 2014 22: 11
        or soon kirdyk will come
      12. FATEMOGAN
        +1
        7 March 2014 22: 47
        Quote: jjj
        It’s not the administration buildings that should be captured,

        It looks like Berkut in Donetsk can support the people.

      13. +1
        7 March 2014 23: 47
        I agree with you
        and most importantly, stop paying taxes to Kiev
    2. +39
      7 March 2014 09: 08
      The police are gradually pushing people out and freeing the roadway. They act quite tough. Taking in the ring, activists are closed one by one and in groups in special buses. The rest rush to the aid of the detainees. The convoy is blocked by everything that comes to hand. People turn over garbage containers, carry trees, move cars. Departure is closed by de-energizing the trolley bus.
      As a result, the police surrender and release the detainees.
      So it should be in all cities, villages, southeast. Only a massive opposition of the people can break the back of the brown plague creeping into this region. Power must be taken into our own hands, and as soon as possible while the scumbags from the Maidan are still in a state of euphoria from the Pyrrhic "victory" and have not gathered their strength into a fist. An example of this is the Crimea.
      1. +46
        7 March 2014 09: 27
        Quote: Tersky
        The police are gradually pushing people out and freeing the roadway. They act quite tough.

        It amazes me to put it mildly, the police who were killed, burned and, as a result, generally called the so-called new authorities outlawed, now they are defending their killers, how is this generally understood ??? Arrests those who protested against the illegal seizure of power, and demanded a referendum, which is absolutely legal from the point of view of even international law! The police whose families were threatened by these new authorities, why are you protecting them ???
        1. zzz
          zzz
          +23
          7 March 2014 09: 45
          Quote: DEfindER
          It amazes me to say the least, the police who were killed, burned and, as a result, the so-called new authorities were outlawed.

          All the police there, dressed as Westerners, yesterday I called my sister, she says, they are standing in silence, but from the remarks it’s clear that they speak Ukrainian.
          1. +5
            7 March 2014 13: 12
            Quote: zzz
            All the militia there, dressed as Westerners,

            And where did the locals go? Have you bogged down and wait for the zapadents to come for them? And then they will cry that there was no order.
          2. -7
            7 March 2014 14: 02
            Quote: zzz
            All the police there, dressed as Westerners, yesterday I called my sister, she says, they are standing in silence, but from the remarks it’s clear that they speak Ukrainian.

            But this is not necessary, not one of your relatives in Kharkov. Cops are local. There’s nothing to be done.
          3. +3
            7 March 2014 16: 05
            From Lvov they wrote that they sent a Lviv "golden eagle" to the East - "to wash away sins" before the Banderaites.
        2. +26
          7 March 2014 09: 52
          Quote: DEfindER
          It amazes me to put it mildly, the police who were killed, burned and, as a result, the so-called new authorities were outlawed in general, now defending their killers
          These are not the guys from "Berkut", do not confuse them, these are already policemen from the Maidan, all kinds of corrupt werewolves, and, simply, Bandera's supporters. We are wasting time, of course, against Russia by the US and the EU, we are threatened with big problems and widespread sanctions. It may very well be that even if the referendum in Crimea is 100% for joining Russia, Crimea will freeze, like Abkhazia and South Ossetia ... I will not say for Putin, but there are some very big doubts for our oligarchs, with their business, accounts , real estate and other vital interests in the West. It is scary to think not about difficult times in "isolation", with an ultimatum from the US and their puppet EU, but about the fact that Eastern Ukraine will be merged in the same way as before Yugoslavia. In March, everything will be decided, who is "hu", but if we lose heart, we are next in "democratization".
          1. +7
            7 March 2014 09: 56
            Somewhere here recently about Gubarev was just about an interview with his wife:
          2. zzz
            zzz
            +10
            7 March 2014 10: 02
            Quote: Per se.
            I will not say for Putin, but there are some very big doubts about our oligarchs, with their business, accounts, real estate and other vital interests in the West. It is scary to think not about difficult times in "isolation", with an ultimatum from the United States and their puppet EU, but that Eastern Ukraine will be merged just like Yugoslavia had previously.


            I don’t want to believe in it, but there are such sensations ..
        3. +1
          7 March 2014 10: 45
          Quote: DEfindER
          It amazes me to put it mildly, the police who were killed, burned and, as a result, generally called the so-called new authorities outlawed, now they are defending their killers, how is this generally understood ??? Arrests those who protested against the illegal seizure of power, and demanded a referendum, which is absolutely legal from the point of view of even international law! The police whose families were threatened by these new authorities, why are you protecting them ???


          They just bought them!
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        5. Irtysh
          +3
          7 March 2014 13: 05
          For the police, now any protester is there - all on one face. What is flowing is that these are fellow citizens. Everyone is buzzing, they are fighting, and they all hate the police together.

          There is nothing to be done, these are just the flowers of the impending civil war. Pah-pah-pah ... Tip to my tongue, but you can’t argue against the truth. :-(
        6. +2
          7 March 2014 13: 09
          Quote: DEfindER
          The police whose families were threatened by these new authorities, why are you protecting them ???

          Here is such a militia, they just wiped it off and then for those who pay, no principles.
        7. -11
          7 March 2014 14: 00
          Quote: DEfindER
          It amazes me to put it mildly, the police who were killed, burned and ultimately outlawed the so-called new authorities, now defending their killers, how is this to be understood?

          very simple, not everything that you hear on the Russian media is true

          Quote: DEfindER
          Arrests those who protested against the illegal seizure of power,

          glad is legitimate and it has a quorum, we can talk about the president. but the Rada is a legitimate body and no one has changed the deputies there and having a quorum they are a legitimate authority. those. appoint ministers, including the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the oath-sworn parts of the Ministry of Internal Affairs obey him - what is wrong?

          Quote: DEfindER
          and demanded a referendum, which is absolutely legal from the point of view of even international law!

          H is legal, especially since there is no international law regarding referenda. There is a law of Ukraine, where the procedure for putting to a referendum is not the scream of the crowd, but the collection of signatures, appeal to the Rada, etc. (as in Russia, by the way)
          Quote: DEfindER
          ! The police whose families were threatened by these new authorities, why are you protecting them ???

          Probably not threatened? And why would they begin to protect? Not logical.
          1. 0
            7 March 2014 14: 59
            atalef


            Quote: DEfindER
            It amazes me to put it mildly, the police who were killed, burned and ultimately outlawed the so-called new authorities, now defending their killers, how is this to be understood?
            very simple, not everything that you hear on the Russian media is true

            Quote: DEfindER
            Arrests those who protested against the illegal seizure of power,
            glad is legitimate and it has a quorum, we can talk about the president. but the Rada is a legitimate body and no one has changed the deputies there and having a quorum they are a legitimate authority. those. appoint ministers, including the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and the oath-sworn parts of the Ministry of Internal Affairs obey him - what is wrong?

            Quote: DEfindER
            and demanded a referendum, which is absolutely legal from the point of view of even international law!
            H is legal, especially since there is no international law regarding referenda. There is a law of Ukraine, where the procedure for putting to a referendum is not the scream of the crowd, but the collection of signatures, appeal to the Rada, etc. (as in Russia, by the way)
            Quote: DEfindER
            ! The police whose families were threatened by these new authorities, why are you protecting them ???
            Probably not threatened? And why would they begin to protect? Not logical.



            Oddly enough, but this time I completely agree with you. Geyropa taught the wretch how to do everything according to the law ((And this is very sad !!
          2. Horde
            +2
            7 March 2014 15: 15
            Quote: atalef
            glad is legitimate and it has a quorum, we can talk about the president. but the Rada is a legitimate body and no one has changed the deputies there and having a quorum they are a legitimate authority.


            the Bandera people dispersed that joy, and this one HAS NO RIGHTS SO THAT THE JEWS DO NOT KNOW ...
            1. -2
              7 March 2014 18: 56
              Quote: Horde
              that rad Bandera dispersed

              Nothing of the kind, Rada remained the same

              Quote: Horde
              this one has no rights

              It is no different from the previous one.

              Quote: Horde
              WHAT THE JEWS DO NOT KNOW

              Laughing --- but on the topic there is something to say laughing
              1. 0
                8 March 2014 09: 56
                Nothing of the kind, Rada remained the same


                And how many deputies are left in it? Do they have a quorum sufficient to work? However, be that as it may, decisions are welcome without the signature of Yanuk - this is zilch. So really happy can not do anything and can not appoint anyone.
                1. 0
                  8 March 2014 15: 26
                  Quote: alicante11
                  And how many deputies are left in it?

                  How much is needed and left, if not enough, then those who look from the Maidan to appoint!
                  They found a problem, legality, when revolutionary, fie, Maidan expediency has long been in force!
        8. 0
          7 March 2014 17: 25
          The answer at the very beginning ...
      2. +17
        7 March 2014 09: 49
        Quote: Tersky
        An example of this is Crimea.

        To have a "second Crimea" you need "polite people with weapons" ...
        If the Kremlin reacted with lightning speed to the situation in Crimea, then in Donbas the reaction was practically "0".
        1. +22
          7 March 2014 10: 18
          So that you don’t wipe their feet in the Donbass, Bandera must resist. Once again I say, good at such a time is hunching over the oligarchs, it's time to get hunting trunks out of safes and organize. Gos. coup is a grave crime, citizens must resist the Nazis.
          1. -8
            7 March 2014 19: 06
            Quote: sergey32
            So that you don’t wipe their feet in the Donbass, Bandera must resist.

            To do this, they must at least be found in the Donbass

            Quote: sergey32
            Once again I say, good at such a time is hunching over the oligarchs, it's time to get hunting trunks out of safes and organize.

            What about the oligarchs? I would also understand - state employees would say - we will not work on this power

            Quote: sergey32
            Gos. coup is a grave crime, citizens must resist the Nazis.

            In general, there was a state coup or not, at least the relevant authorities should determine it - for example, the prosecutor’s office, but since Pshenka escaped from his glamorous home laughing

            Quote: sergey32
            citizens must resist the Nazis.

            how easily a whole nation will declare Nazis negative
            1. 0
              8 March 2014 09: 59
              To do this, they must at least be found in the Donbass


              Found already in the RSA.

              What about the oligarchs? I would also understand - state employees would say - we will not work on this power


              Despite the fact that they are with the fascists on the same front.

              In general, there was a state coup or not, at least the relevant authorities should determine it - for example, the prosecutor’s office, but since Pshenka escaped from his glamorous home laughing


              C'mon, but you can’t see it? Or the armed seizure of government buildings, the shelling of the presidential motorcade - this is not a coup? By the way, Yanuk already identified. And without millet.

              how easily the whole nation will declare negative by the Nazis


              Not the people but its "best" representatives.
            2. 0
              8 March 2014 15: 35
              Quote: atalef
              To do this, they must at least be found in the Donbass

              And why look for them, they are not hiding!
              There is no desire to say anything about the Baltic states in the same way _
        2. +3
          7 March 2014 11: 08
          If the Kremlin reacted with lightning speed to the situation in Crimea, then in Donbas the reaction was practically "0".
          Everything just happens with cats. The Donbass nomenclature is not very interested in losing their assets - let's admit to ourselves - Russia will come to Donbass, there will be redistribution and spin, ours have greater potential and leverage - this does not suit EVERYONE. Let us leave the unrest behind the scenes - miner-workers in the Kemerovo region, in Donetsk, ordinary suicide bombers and nothing more.
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        4. +3
          7 March 2014 12: 18
          But zapadentsy insured? Profits 300 hired
          bandits with weapons!
          1. +3
            7 March 2014 13: 18
            But zapadentsy insured? Profits 300 hired
            bandits with weapons!
            my assumption is that touring people will saddle the pipes with all the consequences
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          3. -5
            7 March 2014 19: 07
            Quote: Neophyte
            But zapadentsy insured? Profits 300 hired
            gunmen with guns

            Can you confirm?
            Nowadays, with mobile phones and the Internet, someone clearly took a picture of them --- at least.
            1. 0
              8 March 2014 10: 00
              If Jews require confirmation, then this is true. From experience.
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        6. +3
          7 March 2014 12: 34
          If you read the Ukrainian forums, it becomes clear that people don’t really want to help them, even the southeast
          1. Irtysh
            +6
            7 March 2014 13: 18
            The crisis is not an aunt. Hunger can open your eyes and see clearly.
            1. 0
              7 March 2014 21: 29
              Quote: Irtysh
              The crisis is not an aunt. Hunger can open your eyes and see clearly.


              Again, Russia will be to blame for the Holodomor! wassat
          2. wax
            +2
            7 March 2014 13: 19
            Yes, in all forums there is a fifth column paid and very active with multiplied nicks. The information war is also going on in networks. Otherwise, why would they be created and financed by the West. Of course, in a quiet time - this is monitoring, but at X-hour or so - this is a field of misinformation, a battlefield.
            1. DMB-78
              +7
              7 March 2014 13: 52
              Quote: Wax
              it is a field of misinformation, a battlefield.

              We, CyberBerkut, report that today the political traitors who seized power in Kiev as a result of the neo-fascist coup have gone too far in their betrayal. We became aware that the new regime, not trusting its people and ignoring its free will, is doing everything to ensure that our country is occupied by NATO forces, private US military companies and becomes a platform for the deployment of an American missile defense system. Apparently, we were not heard, but we were ready for this. Yatsenyuk and Tymoshenko, how did you like the recording of the telephone conversation between the Estonian Foreign Minister and Catherine Ashton? Get ready and not for such surprises!
              Given the sharp aggravation of the socio-political situation in Ukraine, gross violations of the Constitution and laws of the country, inalienable rights and freedoms of citizens, including the right to life, freedom of thought and speech, the right to speak one’s native language, we, CyberBerkut, inform that we have stopped countdown and move on to action.
              You, Yatsenyuk, Klitschko, Tyagnibok and conditionally released Tymoshenko, missed your chance, and there will be no mercy for you. You had the opportunity to save yourself and prevent the development of the tragedy in Ukraine, but you went further and wanted to hide from your people behind the backs of NATO soldiers and for this you are ready to continue to trade our country. We “CyberBerkut” will not allow you to do this. We will help Ukraine maintain independence from the military aggression of the West, which is ready to defend the neo-fascist government.

              The following is a list of blocked sites. https://www.cyberguerrilla.org/blog/?p=17585
        7. Irtysh
          +3
          7 March 2014 13: 13
          Polite people will not be able to control a huge territory, this is not a small isolated Crimea. There will be simply huge bloodshed with an incomprehensible result.

          For this reason, the crisis is deepened so that at last people’s brains turn on and they finally formulate who wants what, either glory to Bandera and slavery, or integration with a Big fraternal neighbor with a return to the normal work of enterprises and normal normal life.

          Here, until they get involved and feel nothing will happen. The Vostok battalion for Ukrainians will not be able to do their job, but will only make it worse.
        8. -5
          7 March 2014 14: 03
          Quote: Corsair
          To have a "second Crimea" you need "polite people with weapons" ...
          If the Kremlin reacted with lightning speed to the situation in Crimea, then in Donbas the reaction was practically "0".

          And it won’t be, the Crimean people’s moods there, you won’t enter any polite people there, you can enter it more precisely - it’s not known how it will end
        9. +2
          7 March 2014 21: 24
          Quote: Corsair
          To have a "second Crimea" you need "polite people with weapons" ...

          If the local population takes control of at least 20 km of the eastern border with Russia, then a lot of "polite partisans" will appear and rather quickly.

          Quote: Corsair
          If the Kremlin reacted with lightning speed to the situation in Crimea, then in Donbas the reaction was practically "0".

          Historically, geographically and strategically - it’s better not to come up with a theater for the 1st phase of the Crimean Theater.
          And as a model for the sane part of the population of the rest of Ukraine (as it turned out) it works very well.
    3. +38
      7 March 2014 09: 37
      In the center of Kiev on the square of Bogdan Khmelnitsky accident occurred. At high speed, a jeep with Lviv numbers crashed into a monument to Bogdan Khmelnitsky. Criminal case instituted against Bohdan Khmelnitsky
      1. +10
        7 March 2014 09: 53
        It’s strange that they were still excited. The Ukrainian Prosecutor General’s Office stamps bundles. One of the latest masterpieces, the initiation of proceedings against Yanukovych for trying to overthrow the constitutional order and seize power.
        And Khmelnitsky generally appealed to Russia with a request to accept Ukraine into its structure. Well, definitely a "separatist"
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        2. +2
          7 March 2014 12: 11
          Who is stamping what? Their surnames are known. They won’t be able to loop better than Yanuk, but the end is predictable to all enemies: if you lie, you won’t leave.


          http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/387/ngas322.jpg
    4. +10
      7 March 2014 09: 59
      Quote: Altona
      Therefore, I was in favor of sending troops until the pieces on the board were mixed ... The West is trying to secure an oligarchic junta in power as a temporary factor ...

      There is a saying "You don't need to have power", this is not for you, but in fact that you need to apply the mind, not the old grandfather's methods, you need to keep your people, we are not China, look at the minke whales, what they do, they refuse direct military operations and apply schemes of social tension, coups by someone else's hands, etc. Why build a bridge to Crimea worth (initial) 50 billion rubles? if these funds can be used to cut off the coastal zone of Ukraine and create a land corridor. You need to act according to the mind and not slow down. After the Crimea, it is necessary to recapture the Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk, Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk regions. In a successful scenario, at least try to recapture the Vinnitsa and Zhytomyr regions, but ..... not without problems!
      1. +6
        7 March 2014 11: 08
        Up to the Curzon Line.
        Give the rest to the Poles.

        Let the Poles also connect.
        1. Irtysh
          0
          7 March 2014 18: 55
          Lviv give Poles? Never! Good people live there. Only an eclipse and greed, a tendency to an imaginary freebie from the EU spoiled them somewhat. But here you just need to work for the political leaders and that's it, the problem will disappear. About 20 years will have to work.
    5. +10
      7 March 2014 10: 23
      In response, it is necessary to take hostage the new oligarch-governor and the entire SBU. In full force. And they will start to shoot back, immediately send troops according to the powers delegated to the GDP.
    6. +7
      7 March 2014 10: 36
      We need "polite people" to protect the people's deputies and to "guard state facilities in the absence of a legitimate government." It is necessary to blockade the SBU and police stations, demand to surrender weapons and control weapons.
      The people's deputies and the people will do the rest. They will form national squads, arm themselves, pull up the Cossacks, and set up block posts.
    7. AVV
      +4
      7 March 2014 11: 01
      Quote: Altona
      Again double standards ... Kiev and Maidan can, Donetsk and Kharkov, no ... Therefore, I was in favor of sending troops until the pieces on the board were mixed ... The West is trying to secure an oligarchic junta in power as a temporary factor ...
      Threat. I understand that the political-military entry is a delicate issue and it must be resolved with extreme caution, thinking on the part of the military, I'm afraid that time is running out for an opportunity ...

      Gubarev was charged with violating the constitution, but she was not violated by these municipalities during the seizure of power in Kiev, where the constitutional court that dispersed these priestyes needed Donetsk people to capture an international official who would come to them and exchange Gubarev for him! !! And nothing more, if you want him to be with you and protect your interests !!!
      1. +1
        7 March 2014 12: 57
        Who is stronger is right, so it will be. Even in large-scale wars, when the blood of 1 person is shed, this is an incident when 1000 people are a conflict and a war, when hundreds of thousands are already statistics.
        In general, let the valiant miners of Donbass continue to sit in the mines, perhaps they "need what, more than anyone else" and by the way, if it really squeezes, you can jump into the car with your family and to Russia. And to defend their land ... oh, apparently few soldiers are there. So this is their karma.
        1. +4
          7 March 2014 16: 50
          this guy asks to post for Ukrainian comrades https://vk.com/mikhachaplin
      2. 0
        7 March 2014 19: 10
        Quote: AVV
        , Donetsk people need to capture an international official who will come to them and exchange Gubarev for him!

        But you do not allow such a thought that the Donetsk people like before Gubarev - all the same. I have a friend in Donetsk - he says everything is quiet in the city.
        1. zzz
          zzz
          0
          7 March 2014 20: 28
          Quote: atalef
          But you do not allow such a thought that the Donetsk people like before Gubarev - all the same. I have a friend in Donetsk - he says everything is quiet in the city.


          The friend, apparently, is sitting at the computer in the headphones and blinkers in his eyes.
        2. 0
          8 March 2014 10: 02
          Yeah, another friend in Donetsk. OBS.
      3. 0
        8 March 2014 10: 53
        Quote: AVV
        Quote: Altona
        Again double standards ... Kiev and Maidan can, Donetsk and Kharkov, no ... Therefore, I was in favor of sending troops until the pieces on the board were mixed ... The West is trying to secure an oligarchic junta in power as a temporary factor ...
        Threat. I understand that the political-military entry is a delicate issue and it must be resolved with extreme caution, thinking on the part of the military, I'm afraid that time is running out for an opportunity ...

        Gubarev was charged with violating the constitution, but she was not violated by these municipalities during the seizure of power in Kiev, where the constitutional court that dispersed these priestyes needed Donetsk people to capture an international official who would come to them and exchange Gubarev for him! !! And nothing more, if you want him to be with you and protect your interests !!!

        Interestingly, declaring the entire people of Ukraine to be fascists - did they mean Gubarev
        Here he is your hero, the real Natsik
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    8. myac3r
      -26
      7 March 2014 13: 05
      What a riot! come to your senses! nobody riots here. There is a gang of provocateurs who organize "rallies"! people are being rounded up under various pretexts. And consistently at 6, each meeting diverges.
      And who is this Gubyrev - no one knows at all !!! I say this as a resident of Donetsk!
      1. +5
        7 March 2014 13: 13
        Quote: myac3r
        What a riot! come to your senses! nobody riots here. There is a gang of provocateurs who organize "rallies"! people are being rounded up under various pretexts. And consistently at 6, each meeting diverges.
        And who is this Gubyrev - no one knows at all !!! I say this as a resident of Donetsk!

        Oops ... Another maydaun fighter, from Ukraine appeared ... smile
        1. myac3r
          -18
          7 March 2014 13: 23
          Eco brains are then washed by Mr. Kiselev. I look at you all who are opposed - they are equated with zapadentsami and the Nazis. Very nice ... brothers called.
          I will shoot a video and post it on which I will walk through Donetsk and will simply ask passers-by Who is Gubirev and are they ready to "rebel" ???
          1. UpgradeComplete
            +7
            7 March 2014 14: 12
            Ahah)) since you lie down under the fascination - are you a brother? and why are you writing in Russian? you are happy with everything - here you go, "little brother". And, well, don't forget to take the flowers to Bandera's grave, he will appreciate it)
            1. myac3r
              -2
              7 March 2014 17: 16
              Ahah)) since you lie down under the fascination - are you a brother? and why are you writing in Russian? you are happy with everything - here you go, "little brother". And, well, don't forget to take the flowers to Bandera's grave, he will appreciate it)
              after this remark I understood who I’m talking with ....)))
              1) where is it written where and what do I go to ??)
              2) I live in a Russian-speaking region and I am fluent in both Russian and Ukrainian, and I do not care what way to express my thoughts.
              3) Where and why did you get my attitude to Bender ??
              If only to blurt out - this is not for me. If you have any facts, I’m ready to listen.
              So what else is to figure out which of us is Troll and who is fanning the conflict. And because of the hillock, it is certainly better seen .. huh
              1. 0
                8 March 2014 15: 50
                Quote: myac3r
                I am fluent in both Russian and Ukrainian, and I don’t care how to express my thoughts.

                Still competently.
                Quote: myac3r
                Where and why did you get my attitude to Bender ??

                Actually, it is a city in Eastern Europe, located on the Dniester River in the territory controlled by the unrecognized Transnistrian Moldavian Republic ...
                Still, the lack of an answer is also an answer. If not the OUN then the UPA?
          2. bercut
            +3
            7 March 2014 14: 31
            Let’s just be honest, interview 100 people and put them out, but only without cuts, we’ll check everything, if you lie, then you’re worthless as a person
          3. +3
            7 March 2014 15: 17
            "You are NOT my brother ...."

            I have a brother in Ukraine and personally his opinion about Europe - so that they go further (Lives in Zaporozhye)
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          5. +2
            7 March 2014 15: 56
            Each has its own jelly in the head. This gopher imagines how to embrace the world.
            http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/277/mexa808.jpg
          6. 0
            7 March 2014 19: 25
            In Crimea, one barely tried to flee a plane. In general, just before this, on the Internet, give the time and place of shooting. And let everyone who wants to speak without fools, we now know the same what is the information war.
          7. 0
            7 March 2014 19: 25
            In Crimea, one barely tried to flee a plane. In general, just before this, on the Internet, give the time and place of shooting. And let everyone who wants to speak without fools, we now know the same what is the information war.
          8. 0
            7 March 2014 19: 52
            Quote: myac3r
            brain washed


            Trololo No. ... wassat
          9. 0
            8 March 2014 15: 44
            Quote: myac3r
            Eco brains are then washed by Mr. Kiselev.

            Yes, someone will say who this newfound OWNER and WASHER!
            Well, it’s just wildly interesting, it’s so bad, but I don’t know anything about him!
        2. 0
          8 March 2014 15: 39
          Quote: Russ69
          Oops ... Another maydaun fighter

          And in one voice about Gubarev!
          A bow, as they say.
      2. wax
        +3
        7 March 2014 13: 30
        Black raven, black raven, what are you flying over Kiev?
      3. +1
        7 March 2014 14: 40
        Esho one vagrant troll. Svidomo, no one here knows you, so your perjury is of no interest to anyone here.
      4. Irtysh
        0
        7 March 2014 18: 57
        Well, as if infa from the cameras, Ukrainian sites say something else. But the process begins to go on increasing.
      5. -4
        7 March 2014 19: 11
        Quote: myac3r
        And who is this Gubyrev - no one knows at all !!! I say this as a resident of Donetsk!

        Is it really not clear that a resident of Russia knows about the situation in Donetsk much better than you. laughing
        1. 0
          7 March 2014 23: 46
          Quote: atalef
          Quote: myac3r
          And who is this Gubyrev - no one knows at all !!! I say this as a resident of Donetsk!

          Is it really not clear that a resident of Russia knows about the situation in Donetsk much better than you. laughing


          he is the same resident of Donetsk as you are a citizen of the state of Antarctica and I am a subject of the British Queen laughing
          sings beautifully)) acts according to the classical scheme of network wars in advance of a prepared and worked out scenario
          it’s not your first time here, it means the scheme you know, usually only children peck at it))
          If only to blurt out - this is not for me. If you have any facts, I’m ready to listen.

          this key phrase is usually the last one after it, he will not appear under this nickname anymore
          since he did not want to argue about anything he needed, he had already done
          classic of the genre))
          I'm in RB with something similar shas honestly began to encounter especially in recent times) while sometimes they even tell me that they write from my own city and after I answer well let's go out and sit down we will drink a beer discuss the situation the person also misses the network laughing
          so what to do war for the souls of people in the midst of kama he will be more likely to believe and is right regardless of the truth
          1. 0
            8 March 2014 07: 57
            Quote: regressSSSR
            and I am a subject of the British Queen

            Who knows dear, who knows. bully

            Sometimes you don’t want to say, it will break out and you will not catch! wink
        2. 0
          8 March 2014 10: 05
          Is it really not clear that a resident of Russia knows about the situation in Donetsk much better than you. laughing


          Yeah, the people clearly specifically found VO and decided to tell everyone that they were wrong, by their first messages. Well, it’s clear that the Cossack was mishandled, and from none of Donetsk.
      6. zzz
        zzz
        +1
        7 March 2014 20: 30
        Quote: myac3r
        And who is this Gubyrev - no one knows at all !!! I say this as a resident of Donetsk!

        A resident of Donetsk would not say that!
    9. +1
      7 March 2014 14: 43
      Becket refused to submit to Kiev! They write that at the given moment the weapons were opened and the soldiers are arming. What do you have in Donetsk?
    10. 0
      7 March 2014 17: 37
      I looked through everything .... Uh, to hell I just read in the comments ...
      But everything is very simple:
      Yanukovych-stole, on this basis, and lost power. And the fact that the Nazis came to power is almost by accident — the West needed anyone anyway, but not Yanukovych.
      And we, too, do not care who is just not a pro-Western leader of the country, because then we will lose the bases on Chernoye and acquire a launch pad for Aegis nearby.
      That's all? What kind of brothers? What kind of chatter? Have you forgotten how we were given a stable gas delivery for European customers?
      With such brothers and enemies it is not necessary.
      So separate the "flies from the cutlets" - and everything will be clear, otherwise, for this violin, we will also build a second "cluster" like Sochi (50 billion greenery) in the Crimea. And then they will certainly steal half.
      Are you ready to grab such a slap in the face?
      And our fleet from there will not go anywhere — we played muscle, we are waiting for a reaction.
      You don’t need to fall into hysterics, otherwise it all reminds a woman who is just waiting, how to cry, or go broke (pregnant or menstruating).
    11. 0
      7 March 2014 18: 16
      As the saying goes, I warned you;
      Quote: Realist58 February 22

      ... what are you waiting for. Yes, they will cut you out, you are the real occupiers for banderlogs (Stalin su4ek left this pa..l live).
      What do you do? Unite with neighbors, friends, relatives, get weapons by hook or by crook.

      For the crowd with cameras would be ..., and the crowd guarded by the armed people's militia is the PEOPLE.
      And the Golden Eagle ... (how to put it mildly) did a bad thing. It is clear that they were thrown by both Yanek and Putin ... but your duty is to protect citizens and the constitution. In the absence of a central authority (the Führer Turchins is not power, but a junta), the inhabitants of Donetsk and there are YOUR CITIZENS AND THE CONSTITUTION. The obedience to the junta's appointees, and the subsequent abandonment of the service, is a betrayal.
    12. infinite silence ...
      +2
      7 March 2014 20: 36
      Hypocritical, vile "power"! This means that what is "heroism" for the West is a crime for the East! And by this they want to show their loyalty to the opinion of this part of Ukraine ???

      There should be no more talk! Only referendum! Raise the people and demand their own!
  2. Tumbleweed
    +24
    7 March 2014 08: 59
    Kiev provokes the South East ... Well, well, let's see, only here are some strange methods
    Activists of the national militia, friends and colleagues, Pavel, promised to gather in the coming weekend a rally of thousands of people in his defense. Just because they will not give up the new government.

    Here it is necessary to beat back by force, block the roads and the railway station, not to allow it to be taken to Kiev ...
    I will say sedition, but it seems to me that specialists from Russia could help here, it is not difficult to "take out" some functionary from Kiev from the "new wave" and then "exchange" ...
    1. +15
      7 March 2014 09: 34
      Quote: tumbleweed
      block roads and the railway station, do not let it take to Kiev ...

      I’m afraid that in Kiev, Pavel will be in the best case, the fate of Sergei Rulev who was beaten and tortured by fascist methods (broke his fingers with ticks, doused with cold water, etc.) only because he interviewed not only the Maydan people but also the Berkut people. So I do not envy Paul.
      Donetsk Militia come to your senses, do you want such justice ?!
    2. +7
      7 March 2014 09: 44
      Duc ... Already all taught - Gubarev, as stated in the article, right after the arrest was taken to Kiev and I would not be surprised if the point "Kiev" turns out to be a conventional notion that it is possible not to guess at which geographical point the battery is located, to which he was handcuffed.
      1. zzz
        zzz
        +3
        7 March 2014 10: 04
        Quote: Niki
        Duc ... Already all taught - Gubarev, as stated in the article, right after the arrest was taken to Kiev and I would not be surprised if the point "Kiev" turns out to be a conventional notion that it is possible not to guess at which geographical point the battery is located, to which he was handcuffed.


        And the remaining 70 people, his comrades-in-arms, were taken somewhere over 40 km, at some kind of mentovka. They talk about it in Donetsk. Relatives do not know what is wrong with them.
    3. zzz
      zzz
      +12
      7 March 2014 09: 49
      Yes, there it is possible in Donetsk to seize the viceroy oligarch and exchange it!
      1. +8
        7 March 2014 10: 27
        Quote: zzz
        Yes, there it is possible in Donetsk to seize the viceroy oligarch and exchange it!
        That's right: "Tooth for a tooth, an eye for an eye." There are NO other options.

        To crush evil spirits by the same methods ...
      2. +3
        7 March 2014 11: 23
        Yes, there it is possible in Donetsk to seize the viceroy oligarch and exchange it!
        Not possible, but necessary. And not only him, but the whole environment
    4. +2
      7 March 2014 10: 26
      Dismantle railway tracks in several places
    5. +6
      7 March 2014 10: 48
      There is accurate evidence that he is already in Kiev. The exchange option is very real. It’s generally not bad to take Yarosh and Bely to Russia. Then they will begin to look around in Kiev
      1. 0
        7 March 2014 16: 16
        She doesn’t need Sasha Bilogo - let him further instill his freedom in Ukraine! This maydown works for us;)
    6. 0
      7 March 2014 11: 32
      Wedge by wedge. Against scrap, just scrap! There is already diplomacy resting!
      First put everything in its place, and then we will do the talking!
    7. 0
      7 March 2014 13: 00
      whom? they are all bloody boys there, nowhere to put stigmas. One more, one less, will stand on principles and vice versa will strengthen the onslaught and grit your teeth. Fell them all the top, what exchanges.
  3. +38
    7 March 2014 09: 01
    the vaunted SBU showed who its true master is !!! how it relates to its people!
    1. +30
      7 March 2014 09: 14
      SBU and police in Donetsk showed their prostitutional essence.
      1. +6
        7 March 2014 09: 48
        First of all, it is the KIEV SBU and the police. Because in Kiev all this happened
    2. +3
      7 March 2014 09: 51
      SBU has always worked for s it's common knowledge
      1. +3
        7 March 2014 11: 10
        Duck has long been said that the SBU is being fed from the hands of the United States. To be honest, I'm shocked, though not a star. Security Service of Ukraine , one country, feeds from the hands of another country. This service is used to judge the country and the people. So pi. Finger Ukraine.
  4. +23
    7 March 2014 09: 02
    The boil can ripen, and the riot must be ... And the seizure of power should be. Where were these defenders when Alpha worked? Knocked on their knees? Kievans have given an incentive now. Take power into your own hands, otherwise they will hand over like cockroaches alone ...
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 09: 35
      Quote: domokl
      The boil can ripen, and the riot must be ... And the seizure of power should be. Where were these defenders when Alpha worked? Knocked on their knees? Kievans have given an incentive now. Take power into your own hands, otherwise they will hand over like cockroaches alone ...

      It's easy to be a hero by tapping the keys.
      1. +1
        7 March 2014 18: 45
        So it’s true, it’s more visible on the sofa. There are a lot of tips, to seize stations, telegraphs, but really who writes this, would go for such actions?
    2. 0
      7 March 2014 11: 52
      What is the terminology? "Boil", "revolt", "cockroaches". Save these words for the radicals. Or are they in your authorities?
  5. VADEL
    +9
    7 March 2014 09: 02
    promised to gather a rally in his defense this weekend

    And why is there a meeting, it is necessary to free the "people's".
    1. +7
      7 March 2014 09: 33
      these words seemed to me the most terrible. Will they hold rallies only on weekends? I think by next weekend with such a position there will be no one to rally.
      1. 0
        7 March 2014 11: 15
        Quote: Gardamir
        Will they hold rallies only on weekends?

        Yes .. until they are blown out to universal, it will be so: and you are fuli.
      2. 0
        7 March 2014 11: 39
        But in working di you have to work. The State Department does not pay them for the Maidan, but the kids want to eat.
  6. predator.3
    +11
    7 March 2014 09: 03
    Something tells me that in the near future "Polite troops" and stern men - miners will appear in Donetsk, and not only there ... soldier
    1. zzz
      zzz
      +8
      7 March 2014 09: 17
      Quote: predator.3
      Something tells me that in the near future "Polite troops" and stern men - miners will appear in Donetsk, and not only there ... soldier


      Let's hope!
    2. stillrat
      +6
      7 March 2014 09: 28
      Probably not.
    3. s1н7т
      0
      7 March 2014 09: 59
      Quote: predator.3
      Something tells me that "Polite troops" will appear in Donetsk in the near future

      We don’t have enough for all of Ukraine sad
    4. +2
      7 March 2014 10: 18
      it is only necessary to scale this concept of "the near future", otherwise it seems for someone that May 25 is already very near, and somewhere around March 16 they will not wait.
      1. +3
        7 March 2014 11: 21
        I don’t believe, guys, I don’t believe that VVL will appear.
        And why? Yes, because ....
        Russian fleet base in Crimea, infrastructure, payments - a very expensive facility. To create something like this somewhere .... it’s much more than 50 billion.
        What is this - dear - in the Crimea? Of interest to business?
        All this ... service industry? Copecks it.
        And what is Donbass and Kharkov? Dnepropetrovsk?
        These are billions, by the very fact of the existence of a powerful industrial base.
        This is all just not to buy. And to whom to buy something? Who?
        And the whole layout.
        Sick of course. Even a couple of killings of the Russian population will not yield anything. Because MONEY is confused here. A lot of money. Chistogan.
        And then another thing - the self-organization of people. And here, we see, just nothing happens already. Annoyingly.
        ...
        God forbid that I was mistaken.
  7. Gagarin
    +30
    7 March 2014 09: 05
    As I said, now the movement of the East will be beheaded, and then they will deal with the people.
    The SBU is astonishing, either they forgot how the Golden Eagle styles, or rather it has long been Avatar of the SBU / CIA.
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 09: 59
      Quote: Gagarin
      SBU is amazing

      But they, like they can write letters ... Heroes ....
      1. +1
        7 March 2014 11: 23
        Quote: Gagarin
        The SBU is astonishing, either they forgot how the Golden Eagle styles, or rather it has long been AVATU SBU / CIA

        Damn, I thought that I was the only one so smart laughing .
  8. +9
    7 March 2014 09: 06
    The Maidan authorities will now act by all means in order not to repeat the development of events as in the Crimea. And it seems she is already beginning to put up with the loss of the peninsula as a total inevitability !! the events with the mass arrests of their opponents speak for themselves!
    1. -2
      7 March 2014 10: 07
      Apparently, they did not come to terms with the loss of Crimea. There was infa about the breakthrough of a diversionary company in Simferopol. Question --- HOW? There are only 2 roads to Crimea. They are configured very militantly http://svpressa.ru/politic/article / 83391 /
      1. +1
        7 March 2014 10: 26
        It is possible that due to such events, the referendum period has also been shifted
      2. 0
        7 March 2014 16: 24
        Well, very belligerent ... Schaz to break through two Russian paratroopers from the base in Perevalnoye.
      3. 0
        7 March 2014 19: 19
        Quote: Den 11
        Apparently, they didn’t put up with the loss of Crimea

        Denis, Ukraine will not fight for Crimea - nothing, and it's useless - the people of Crimea never felt like Ukrainians, and without the support of the local population all these mythological companies would turn into corpses in a second.
        Tales are all this, but about the southeastern regions of Ukraine - a completely different matter. There, after all, for Ukraine - therefore, you will not see any polite people there, or thousands of rallies.
        1. 0
          8 March 2014 10: 07
          Yes, they’ve already seen, calm down.
  9. Arh
    0
    7 March 2014 09: 07
    It would be more honest to catch the left sector and other Nazis! ! !
  10. -13
    7 March 2014 09: 10
    Well, that has begun. The first lamb fell on the altar of the "Russian Spring"
    1. stillrat
      +2
      7 March 2014 09: 31
      Not yet. Due to the absence of the "Russian Spring"
      1. 0
        7 March 2014 10: 36
        Not yet. Due to the absence of the "Russian Spring"

        If the East rises, then it will be. And if not, then no.
  11. +7
    7 March 2014 09: 10
    "That you would live in an era of change" - the most terrible curse in the ancient Chinese empire of Qin
  12. +7
    7 March 2014 09: 11
    Shaw there Donetsk. The reconnaissance company of the brigade of the Ukrainian army broke into the Crimea. It has already been blocked, but the fact itself gives rise to reflection. The polite lads broke the breakthrough. Tse is gut.
    1. operator35
      +2
      7 March 2014 09: 17
      WHERE INFA ???
      1. +3
        7 March 2014 09: 20
        Quote: operator35
        WHERE INFA ???

        From the news.
        1. operator35
          +2
          7 March 2014 09: 22
          CONSTANTLY MONITORING NEWS -DON'T SEE !!!
        2. 0
          7 March 2014 19: 20
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          From the news.

          Hi, Sanya-- OBS Channel - as I understand it laughing
    2. +1
      7 March 2014 09: 21
      More like misinformation. Throw off a reference, please.
      1. +2
        7 March 2014 09: 25
        держи http://3mv.ru/publ/ukrainskij_specnaz_prorvalsja_v_krym/3-1-0-23454
        1. 0
          7 March 2014 09: 35
          Thank. Is that soon the massacre will begin ?! At first the Americans flew in, then the Ukrainians themselves went over to the oligarchs ... I still hoped for a peaceful outcome in Ukraine
          1. -5
            7 March 2014 10: 52
            .
            By the Crimea troops from all over Ukraine.
            .
            1. +2
              7 March 2014 11: 00
              Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
              .
              By the Crimea troops from all over Ukraine.
              .


              Just hit from the north-east wassat
              1. +1
                7 March 2014 11: 49
                Hit it, yes.
                And from the north, and from the east, and from the south.
                Where will they run?
                There they are dear.
            2. DMB-78
              0
              7 March 2014 14: 02
              Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
              Troops from all over Ukraine are drawing to the Crimea

              better. do not catch one at a time
              1. +1
                7 March 2014 15: 32
                .
                Here is another thought.

                The troops are our people. Let it pull together. Conduct explanatory work with commanders and turn this fist to Kiev. Not a single mongrel dare to yap that these are Russian troops.
                .
                1. +1
                  7 March 2014 16: 27
                  It would be nice if your military decided on this, otherwise they already sent commissars from the Maydanut, and the SS units fled to revive. It's time for them to make their choice.
            3. 0
              7 March 2014 19: 20
              Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
              By the Crimea troops from all over Ukraine.

              Do you have troops in Ukraine?
            4. 0
              8 March 2014 01: 30
              Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
              .
              By the Crimea troops from all over Ukraine.
              .

              Very good! No need to chase them, all over the country. smile
        2. Horde
          0
          7 March 2014 15: 19
          Quote: rasputin17
          держи http://3mv.ru/publ/ukrainskij_specnaz_prorvalsja_v_krym/3-1-0-23454


          EMPTY ...
      2. +1
        7 March 2014 09: 27
        Here is a link for you.
        http://warfiles.ru/show-49765-ukrainskiy-specnaz-prorvalsya-v-krym.html
        1. 0
          7 March 2014 19: 24
          Quote: erased
          Here is a link for you.
          http://warfiles.ru/show-49765-ukrainskiy-specnaz-prorvalsya-v-krym.html

          Well, without even touching this fairy tale (in Crimea - who was there at all - there are only 2 roads)
          Question - I wonder who it blocked the company of special forces (Ukrainian) - if, according to the GDP and Shoigu in the Crimea, there are no Russian troops, but only the people's militia laughing
          Although it’s a lie, it’s somehow coordinated, but then no matter where you spit it is a complete mess.
          1. 0
            8 March 2014 15: 58
            Quote: atalef
            Although it’s a lie, it’s somehow coordinated, but then no matter where you spit it is a complete mess.

            And you are for transparency in international relations, well - well.
            Here such a thing. The Army is not the Fleet, and the Fleet is not the Army.
            That's why everyone is trying to pretend that in the Crimea there were no Russian military at all, like a figure skipped, a solid figure.
    3. +1
      7 March 2014 09: 38
      All were blown away, they are sitting blocked and the entrance is guarded by TWO "polite" ones. The Ukrainian lieutenant colonel threatens to blow himself up. Him please, just so that the others do not offend, who refused to shoot at the Russians.
    4. +1
      7 March 2014 09: 38
      All were blown away, they are sitting blocked and the entrance is guarded by TWO "polite" ones. The Ukrainian lieutenant colonel threatens to blow himself up. Him please, just so that the others do not offend, who refused to shoot at the Russians.
    5. +7
      7 March 2014 10: 05
      Here is the answer: Natalia Kruchevskaya
      Bullshit, they were here at the exercises. According to the press service of the Ministry of Defense, the reconnaissance and landing company from the 25th Dnepropetrovsk airborne brigade, which has long been on exercises in the Crimea, was blocked together with the soldiers of the 36th coastal defense brigade in the village Passage.
      1. +1
        7 March 2014 11: 27
        Ah, there it is! And then I think, how did they break through the cordons? Or by sea or by air crossed? It’s also strange, there are polite turntables patrolling. And the company, it turns out, was sitting with a sydney and continues to eat lard in place. Eh, Crimea seemed to be defended, and neighboring areas were blown away. Or they are in line. Do not miss out ...
        1. operator35
          +2
          7 March 2014 12: 25
          men, all the information on the pulling together of troops in the crimea-desa! information "piece of iron" from people on the spot!
  13. cosmonaut
    +3
    7 March 2014 09: 12
    If you look into our recent past, you can see that everything is repeated. Revolutionaries came, seized power, suppressed resistance. We have established external relations. The only difference is money. Who pays for everything. And "s", judging by the information from the media, have already paid. They will not abandon their plan. And let the "clowns" on the Maidan indulge their pride as long as their Masters from across the ocean allow them ...
  14. +3
    7 March 2014 09: 15
    sorry for the guy
  15. +8
    7 March 2014 09: 17
    "For myself, I am no longer afraid - I am afraid that our protest will be decapitated and drained. This is what I am afraid of!"

    We must act by the methods of Maidan. Power understands only the language of FORCE.
    1. +7
      7 March 2014 10: 48
      Consider this option: vote for Simonenko, although I am not enthusiastic about the Communist Party in Ukraine and Russia. BUT, even in its current state, the Communist Party has an organizational structure ready for political struggle. Their offices are probably in all major cities of SE, they are in a legal position, you, as private individuals and any public organizations against maydaunas, can unite with them, this will be a compromise, but it will allow you to legalize and organize. You need to go to him (KPU) and talk, because SE will not be able to nominate a single anti-fascist candidate, Simonenko is a difficult and forced compromise. But for a second imagine the situation when Simonenko gets the majority of votes in the elections. Even if this does not happen, the signal for the coup will be unpleasant. During the elections, members of the Communist Party of Ukraine will be members of election commissions and may influence the transparency of the vote count. Before the election, your national leaders will be cleansed by any means, and whatever they are substituted, you need to act (unfortunately) through the Communist Party of Ukraine. Well, as an option, no worse than a boycott of the presidential election in Ukraine
      1. 0
        7 March 2014 19: 04
        Simonenko? As president? It’s better to completely liquidate the presidency than to put Simonenko in the presidency. He is the same as Yanukovych and everyone else. He is not a communist, but a politician. He’s as corrupt as all politicians.

        Ukrainians themselves will choose a president. This is generally their business. They are not small children.
  16. +3
    7 March 2014 09: 18
    Well, this is complete lawlessness, they themselves seized power and go gangs with law formations pumping cattle.
  17. +3
    7 March 2014 09: 19
    How can one drain their leaders so ineptly?
    1. +3
      7 March 2014 09: 28
      I agree, yes it’s the leaders themselves who are stupid, mind you, as usual they came to their house and took them away, the wife with the children should already be in Crimea, at least, and he and the people themselves.
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  18. kuznesov48
    +1
    7 March 2014 09: 26
    It is necessary to speak with the Kiev illegal government in the language of the Maidan, otherwise all efforts are in vain. The longer they stay at the helm, the harder it will be to deal with them. And they understand that.
  19. +5
    7 March 2014 09: 27
    All the same, the miners will not endure chaos.
    1. +7
      7 March 2014 10: 36
      Quote: propolsky
      All the same, the miners will not endure chaos.

      Unfortunately, miners are extremely passive and apolitical and they will only "swing" when, figuratively speaking, there is no sausage in stores or they have no money for this sausage. Believe me, I myself am from that place and I know what I'm talking about.
    2. +3
      7 March 2014 10: 40
      Quote: propolsky
      miners will not tolerate chaos.

      You are hoping for Ukrainian miners in vain - firstly, there are very few of them left, and secondly, the one who goes to rebel will immediately be replaced by another - unemployment there goes off the scale, they hold their place with both hands, and the mine owners provide their workers with relative standard of living with a social package. Housing in miners' villages is worth a penny - and no one takes it.
    3. 0
      8 March 2014 01: 36
      Quote: propolsky
      All the same, the miners will not endure chaos.

      Plusanul. But there is one "BUT". Miners' villages are the most uneducated and very drinking people. If organized, then this is a terrible force. Suffice it to recall the defense of Sevastopol, when those very miners went on the attack on machine guns with grenades and sapper blades (they did not have time to arm them, but they had to plug the hole). But if there is no organizer, then they are not only passive, but they do not organize themselves, most likely. With Kharkov, the opposite "problem", there are too many intelligentsia, and therefore dissidents.

      ...
      Sevastopol is a military city, because everything is clear and understandable there. The city, first of all, of Russian sailors, whom Kiev had spread rot for twenty years, did not survive.
  20. +1
    7 March 2014 09: 28
    According to Obama, Russia and Ukraine could hold direct negotiations with the assistance of the international community; international observers would guarantee that the rights of all citizens of Ukraine, including ethnic Russians, are respected; Russian troops would return to their bases, and the international community would jointly support the Ukrainians in preparation for the May elections.

    Well, just a well-wisher for Russian civilization !!!
  21. +10
    7 March 2014 09: 29
    Ukraine has a new parliament - and the buttons are still the same "Nikita, Stas, Gena, Turbo and Dyusha Metelkin"
    1. wk-083
      +1
      7 March 2014 11: 59
      good
      Quote: anrykaluga
      Ukraine has a new parliament - and the buttons are still the same "Nikita, Stas, Gena, Turbo and Dyusha Metelkin"
      1. 0
        7 March 2014 19: 06
        what Well, about the same ones, I probably agree. Yes, and everywhere. Both you and us, and they have the same faces.
  22. +6
    7 March 2014 09: 33
    Yarosh has a good consultant. The men are right, we must steal Yarosh and Yatsenyuk. And look at the faces of consultants in the US and the EU.
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 11: 47
      Yes, not necessarily. They ordered snipers. Although it would be more indicative.
  23. +10
    7 March 2014 09: 33
    But what kind of crap (The people of eastern Ukraine! You Bandera’s cancer have already put the pants off and you have smeared the anus with Vaseline (((Wait until they blow it? Maybe it’s enough to wait for the savior and it’s time to take power in your hands?
  24. +3
    7 March 2014 09: 36
    Alas, besides the rally throat, we also need real strength and its action. Talking with Bandera is a waste of time.
  25. stillrat
    +1
    7 March 2014 09: 38
    The fascists from Kiev are not so smart by themselves, they are backed by serious guys from the CIA and MI6. And will the "polite people" have enough professionalism and political will to bring the Ukrainian project to an end?
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 10: 08
      Serious guys everywhere with their own hands do not have time. To carry out multiple actions requires organizational action.
  26. wk-083
    +7
    7 March 2014 09: 39
    The cops betrayed their people, who met them from Kiev as heroes! Shame on you garbage!
    1. +2
      7 March 2014 13: 02
      maybe they were some others, and not those who stood against the maydanutyh, carrying out the order, but those that all this time "remained neutral" and sat at home, waiting for someone to take. Now we need to prove our usefulness to the new "legitimate" government. this is GARBAGE, and shameful.
  27. Aleksey5888
    +2
    7 March 2014 09: 41
    Arrest is a fatal mistake. Excitement will come, then victims, then polite people!
  28. +3
    7 March 2014 09: 41
    It is necessary to read Lenin's work "State and Revolution" It says everything. An ingenious study guide of the Russian revolutionary.
  29. HAM
    +1
    7 March 2014 09: 41
    One gets the impression that the junta in Kiev is trying with all its might to quickly adopt as many laws it needs as it can, join NATO, deal with as many dissenting people as possible, and then come what may, the laws are more difficult to repeal than to adopt, this already slightly looks like agony. Soon the zits-chairman and zits-president will run away to the "bushes" (to Germany), in their place the "regional committee" has found others.
  30. +6
    7 March 2014 09: 44
    If there will be no mass demonstrations, if the people are not organized, as in Crimea, then the torment that the Galicians have prepared for the Russians in Ukraine (reducing pensions, rising gas prices, electricity, utilities ...) will have to endure. , people will be left without work, everything will end with a merciless rebellion, but then it will not be possible to keep the region from chaos. People until it’s too late, do not wait for gifts (Russian soldiers) you must protect your future yourself, no one will be for you, do not hope.
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 10: 43
      Quote: Alex66
      Galicians prepared for Russians in Ukraine

      Please note that the Galicians themselves succumb to this, but only after the presidential election in May. Maybe that's why they are in no hurry to dismantle the barricades on the Maidan?
  31. Potin
    +2
    7 March 2014 09: 45
    Riot is the spontaneous indignation of a crowd. Riot can simply be broken up. Need an organizational structure. Now, when nationalists came to power, ready to strangle the national values ​​of the inhabitants of eastern Ukraine, in the ranks of the latter only unity begins. Strong leaders and a clear organizational structure will soon appear, and methods of struggle will be developed. Ukraine has only just reached the threshold of a revolution.
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 11: 56
      Yeah, they have already appeared, and are already sitting.
  32. +5
    7 March 2014 09: 53
    If 6 days a week, work. And to go out to the rally only on Sunday, thinking about the working day on Monday, a loss in the fight is guaranteed.
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 11: 57
      And how much money can you give so that they can not work, but fight around the clock? Suppose a peasant himself doesn’t need much, but a wife, children?
  33. +1
    7 March 2014 09: 53
    Based on news from the Crimea, the new government will act tough in the east of Ukraine, by any available means to retain its power and the new proteges of the governors-oligarchs with dual citizenship.
  34. +1
    7 March 2014 09: 55
    Somewhere here recently about Gubarev was just about an interview with his wife:
  35. +1
    7 March 2014 09: 57
    I do not exclude that this is not the SBU, but the CIA or the Bandits Yarosh. One thing is clear that the honest people of Ukraine must rebel.
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 11: 02
      Quote: konvalval
      that it’s not the SBU, but the CIA or the Bandits Yarosh

      Yes, Avakov officially introduced the Right Sector to the Ministry of Internal Affairs! After all, in all these urgent closed meetings of the Verkhovna Rada in Crimea, there is always an item "secret". And what turned out to be "secret"? It turns out that the deputies of the Minister of Defense and the Minister of the Ministry of Internal Affairs flatly refused to introduce the Right Sector into the power structures and warned Senya Kulya head-on that he was playing with fire. in all seriousness) so: "Hold on."
      1. 0
        7 March 2014 15: 36
        Senya yaytsanyukh)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
  36. vetrov_serega
    +4
    7 March 2014 09: 57
    Russian people! For the first time you have the opportunity to prove yourself as a people, meet the challenge of the times, prove yourself and participate in history, make history!
  37. vetrov_serega
    0
    7 March 2014 09: 57
    Russian people! For the first time you have the opportunity to prove yourself as a people, meet the challenge of the times, prove yourself and participate in history, make history!
  38. 0
    7 March 2014 10: 13
    Are there any Donetsk ones on the forum? How is your situation there now? Aren't your siloviki with you? If you were allowed to arrest Gubarev with you? Or nobody arrested him? Honestly, please!
    1. Hudo
      +1
      7 March 2014 10: 29
      Here is a link to a normal resource that is not censored by fascist swindlers.
      http://svidomitov.net/2014/03/06/%D1%81%D0%B1%D1%83-%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%
      B4%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D0%B3%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%8
      0-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%87%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%8B-%D0%BF/

      The issue of the arrest of Pavel Gubarev is discussed here, there are real participants in the events.
      1. DMB-78
        0
        7 March 2014 14: 11
        Quote: Hudo
        The issue of the arrest of Pavel Gubarev is discussed here, there are real participants in the events.

        there passes a good idea to nominate gubarev as a presidential candidate
    2. 0
      8 March 2014 01: 26
      cops 16 bayonets under impostors from Kiev. authorities are pulling time. golden eagles were given a gunshot and good for use — about 000 of them wrote reports today, refusing to shoot at people. and the people are unarmed, so some of the comments are wildly furious. in the personnel of the cops there are a lot of imported ones, they don’t even talk among themselves. I won’t be surprised if there are overseas mercenaries. there are sky mercenaries who do not even hide
  39. pahom54
    +1
    7 March 2014 10: 18
    Quote: jjj
    It is not administration buildings that are to be captured, but banks, communication lines, and media. By general strikes, the situation is heating up. It's time to act like an adult

    And then there is experience, they just forgot it (October 1917) ...
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 11: 57
      The fact of the matter is that we do not have this experience. I still go to the robot to be somewhere. And if aggravating circumstances, i.e. a family. But without a general strike in Donetsk, nothing can be decided.
  40. +3
    7 March 2014 10: 19
    I go nuts from the wording "he illegally seized power in Donetsk" .. and in Kiev, a solid people elected !!!!!!!!! Let's call things by their proper names!
  41. +2
    7 March 2014 10: 19
    While the people are ripening - bandits, another word for those who came to power, albeit illegitimate, is valid. An urgent need to give an organized rebuff to the bandits.
  42. negeroi
    +4
    7 March 2014 10: 22
    Regardless of the news, it was initially clear that the New Kiev government would act tough. For a number of reasons. Firstly, revolutionary logic forces it to work. In the mess of the almonds they crush and trample. Therefore, if any revolutionary power is not cruel and decisive, its comrades and the Allies will tear and trample. This is one reason. Another reason is also quite obvious - the New Government of Kiev, organized and prepared, well, in any case for political battles, and all kinds of conflicts. And I’m really still wondering why the New Government doesn’t she moved the newly-minted Russian leaders. It’s the same simple and obvious. How are riots suppressed? Some are intimidated, others are imprisoned, others are killed, fifth are dismissed. The organized government of Kiev should not lose to the semi-silent gatherings of eastern opponents. And I’m surprised that only arrested Donetsk activist. Another thing is that Kiev has few strengths and opportunities, and the new leaders are not all suckers, and worried about the security and special services and instructors and allies. People by the people, and the brains must also participate in the process.
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 10: 39
      To this we can add in addition that the detained activists of Donetsk turned out to be at least the citizens of Ukraine. If only one had fallen for citizenship of the Russian Federation, the screams would have risen to Fashington itself
  43. +4
    7 March 2014 10: 24
    And today, on the hike, another operational leak of information "happened" ... ;))) POLUOSTROV-NEWS REGIONAL HUMAN RIGHTS GROUP "CRIMEA PENINSULA" TUESDAY, MARCH 4, 2014 Turchinov signed a document according to which the entire gas transmission system of Ukraine is transferred free of charge to the ownership of an American company, and NATO fighters will be based near Kharkov 02.03.2014 Mr. Turchinov in the presence of the ambassadors of the USA, Germany and Poland in Ukraine signed a preliminary agreement with the IMF on the provision of financial assistance to Ukraine. According to this document, the entire gas transmission system of Ukraine from the moment of signing the final main agreement on financial assistance is transferred free of charge to the ownership of the American company Chevron. The owners of the Mariupol, Zaporizhzhya, Dnepropetrovsk metallurgical plants are required to transfer 50% of the shares of companies to the German company Ruhr. In addition, the coal production of Donbass is also transferred to the Finnish daughter of Ruhr, writes UKR-PRESS. Also, in addition to political requirements, the signed document contains a clause on the provision to the NATO bloc of territories near Kharkov for the deployment of American missile defense systems, an American fighter aviation link for covering missile defense facilities !! Yatsenyuk also agreed to the IMF enslaving conditions. Ukrainian soldiers will retire after 60 years. Ukraine will fulfill all the conditions of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to obtain a loan, said Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk. "This government will fulfill all the requirements of the IMF for the simple reason that we have no other choice," he said at a meeting with the European Business Association in Kiev. Yatsenyuk noted that this applies to both reforms in the social sector and raising tariffs. 10 requirements 1. Raise the retirement age - by two years for men, by three - for women. Eliminate the right to early retirement and the principle of counting a year in two at hazardous enterprises. 2. Eliminate the institution of special retirement benefits that are allocated to scientists, civil servants, managers of state enterprises. Limit pensions to working retirees. Set retirement age for army officers at 60 years. 3. Raise the price of gas for municipal enterprises by 50%, twice for private consumers. Increase electricity cost by 40%. Allow pricing utilities. To allow price increases corresponding to gas prices. Increase excise tax on gasoline by 60 euros. 4. Cancel privileges and increase transport taxes by 50%. Do not increase the cost of living, balance the social situation through targeted subsidies. 5. Privatize all mines and abolish all subsidies. Cancel benefits for utilities, transport, and more. The abolition of state support for childbirth, free nutrition, textbooks. 6. Limit the practice of simplified taxation. Abolish the practice of VAT exemptions in rural areas. Obligate pharmacies and pharmacists to pay VAT. 7. Cancel the moratorium on the sale of agricultural land. Cancel subsidies for pork and chicken producers. 8. Reduce the composition of ministries to 14. Leave only one deputy prime minister. To abolish the post of Minister of Cabinet Ministers. Eliminate six ministries. Subordinate all state bodies to ministries. The tax administration, customs, state property fund must enter the Ministry of Finance. 9. Limit excessive wages of public officials. 10. Unemployment benefits should be accrued only after a minimum period of six months of work. Pay sick leave at the level of 70% of the salary, but not lower than the subsistence level. Pay sick leave only from the third day of illness. What will lead to the fulfillment of these requirements is not difficult to guess ...
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 10: 43
      Excuse me, of course, dear! But this is another in ...
    2. +1
      7 March 2014 10: 48
      Quote: Koshel2901
      What will lead to the fulfillment of these requirements is not difficult to guess ...

      All these documents are just pieces of paper, that’s all, in legal terms, intentions. They can enter into force only after the presidential elections in May. And then there will be a mother, do not worry!
    3. 0
      7 March 2014 10: 53
      it's not today, but still fresh info
    4. bercut
      +1
      7 March 2014 14: 04
      These are just provocations Turchinov is not recognized by all countries as a legitimate president, and therefore no one will sign serious agreements with him
  44. +8
    7 March 2014 10: 27
    Kiev "authorities" have their own standards
    How to lick asshole USA
    Pursuing a policy of "double standards"
    Finally, they want to grab money to x ..
    But their pressure will not last long
    Hands are shaking, and the head no longer "cooks"
    The people of Donetsk will fight for freedom
    And the "power" will be cut into pieces by people
  45. +3
    7 March 2014 10: 31
    I live in Voronezh. According to rumors (I am sure that this is a "duck"), but nevertheless, allegedly, yesterday a threatening letter came to the address of our governor Gordeev. Something like this: "support the Maidan and the ethnic Ukrainians of the region, they say they want to Ukraine and with it to the EU, (they would come to our south with their propaganda))) announce your resignation, otherwise we are your family ..." understandably. I am both funny and sad at the same time. I do not believe in it, but I am not all, there are people who are more trusting. People don't get fooled by provocations! I can tell all the banderlog - I'm sure everyone will support me! Come, the city is full of trees, there will be enough for everyone, but just do not forget to take the rope and soap with you. Our people are "hospitable"))).
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 10: 44
      Quote: Little Saturn
      I live in Voronezh. According to rumors (I am sure that this is a "duck"), but nevertheless, allegedly, yesterday a threatening letter came to the address of our governor Gordeev. Something like this: "support the Maidan and the ethnic Ukrainians of the region, they say they want to Ukraine and with it to the EU, (they would come to our south with their propaganda))) announce your resignation, otherwise we are your family ..." understandably. I am both funny and sad at the same time. I don’t believe in it, but I’m not everyone, there are people who are more trusting. People don't get fooled by provocations!

      There was such a letter. But there it seems Bandera shkolota is engaged in scarecrows. Their name alone is worth something - "Black Cross". fool
    2. sazhka4
      0
      7 March 2014 10: 50
      Let me be reset to zero again, but I will say my "carr". A law has been passed on advertising. Foreign letters must be three (3) times smaller than Russian letters. Why isn't Fresh and the like? If a "star" has started, then someone needs it ..
  46. sazhka4
    +1
    7 March 2014 10: 32
    Quote: zzz
    I don’t want to believe in it, but there are such sensations ..

    Patriotism begins with the Motherland. If "UAZ" calls its model "Patriot". This is Patriotism.? They forgot how to use Russian letters ..
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 13: 12
      what did you get to the inscription? A patriot will not remain a patriot. it's UAZ anyway
  47. +12
    7 March 2014 10: 35
    I understand that many are not laughing, so for discharge ...

    Ukraine. Near future.
    The husband brings home a hare.
    - Wife, fry a hare in lard!
    - We don’t have fat ...
    - Well, that’s a fire in oil!
    - We do not have oil ....
    - Well, fire, just like that, on gas !!!
    - We do not have gas!
    A man in hearts swings and throws a hare out the window.
    The hare runs and shouts: "Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!"
  48. Hello from Ternovka! Heart of West Donbass!
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 10: 41
      Do you know anything for Donetsk? According to rumors, the elected people were taken to Kiev, yesterday did the nationalists seize state institutions?
  49. Quote: negeroi
    .And I am surprised that only the Donetsk activist was arrested. Another thing is that Kiev has little strength and opportunity, and the newly-minted leaders are not all suckers, and worried about the security and special services and instructors and allies. in the process.


    So other activists simply do not exist, alas.
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 10: 56
      Quote: Pensioner of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
      So other activists simply do not exist, alas.


      Well, that's all!
      There are no others and never will be. Everything goes according to the Natsik’s plan - they’ll press 2-3 dozens, the rest will silently go to the slaughter !!! Slave Psychology !!!!
  50. Quote: Rodriques
    Do you know anything for Donetsk? According to rumors, the elected people were taken to Kiev, yesterday did the nationalists seize state institutions?

    I don't believe the rumors, I know from the media that I was arrested. I think, most likely already in Kiev. And what do you mean "seized state institutions"?
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 10: 51
      Serious riots took place in Donetsk. The city became the scene of clashes between supporters and opponents of the Kiev authorities. The building of the regional administration several times passed from hand to hand. By morning, the police took control of him. More than 70 pro-Russian demonstrators detained. The detention of Pavel Gubarev, the people's governor, who was appointed to this post by the residents of the region, is also reported.
      http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1352398&tid=105474
      1. +1
        7 March 2014 13: 18
        Donetsk, there simply isn’t a powerful leader, the police didn’t follow the demonstrators, and nothing can be achieved with slogans alone.
        1. 0
          7 March 2014 18: 30
          The police refused to execute orders to disperse the demonstrations. I didn’t cross - but it doesn’t interfere
        2. 0
          7 March 2014 18: 30
          The police refused to execute orders to disperse the demonstrations. I didn’t cross - but it doesn’t interfere
  51. +6
    7 March 2014 10: 47
    Quote: wk-083
    The cops betrayed their people, who met them from Kiev as heroes! Shame on you garbage!

    Are you a legit here, right? Or have you just confused the Rams?))) What kind of garbage? The Crimean Golden Eagle was and will remain a hero of the Crimean people. The new authorities in Kiev disbanded the Golden Eagle. But what kind of alpha appeared there and from which gopniks they recruited it, I don’t know, and no one knows. Perhaps their Sashko beat, and that horseradish who is everything yells: “documents quickly! Maine has a weapon.” It’s a shame on you for not knowing the topic you’re trying to discuss))) But in general there’s no offense) ok?
    1. wk-083
      -7
      7 March 2014 12: 21
      Do you have something against the loshara?
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  52. ed65b
    +1
    7 March 2014 10: 52
    Ukrop border guards from the Belgorod side closed the border to the entry of Russians into Ukraine.
  53. +2
    7 March 2014 10: 53
    Radicals demand the annexation of the Voronezh region to Ukraine and threaten to kill the governor

    Governor Alexey Gordeev received a letter demanding the annexation of the Voronezh region to Ukraine; if he refuses, the authors of the letter threaten the head of the region with physical violence. As a REGNUM correspondent reports, on March 6, Governor Alexei Gordeev officially commented on the situation.

    “I received an ultimatum via email, according to preliminary data from the Lviv region of Ukraine, which contains direct insults and threats against our state and the country’s leadership, as well as a demand that I resign with the announcement that the Voronezh region should join Ukraine. If this ultimatum is not fulfilled, they promise physical violence to me personally and members of my family, as well as terrorist attacks on the territory of the Voronezh region."
    1. Vita_vko
      +1
      7 March 2014 20: 26
      A very useful letter. A good reason to contact the prosecutor’s office to initiate another criminal case against Bandera’s supporters. So little by little everyone will be on the international wanted list, and then to the mines, preferably uranium.
  54. 16max16
    +2
    7 March 2014 10: 54
    Absurd. Rebels condemn supporters of the legitimate government for “rebellion.”
  55. +1
    7 March 2014 10: 54
    It seems it’s time to send troops to the Bandera era
    1. +2
      7 March 2014 10: 57
      Only in Crimea, after the front lines, will the regulars go. Border control, receiving refugees from the west, shooting sabotage groups. Alas......this is the only way for now.
    2. 0
      7 March 2014 11: 09
      This is a provocation! There is no need to bring anyone in there.
      1. Vita_vko
        +1
        7 March 2014 20: 41
        Quote: Little Saturn
        This is a provocation! There is no need to bring anyone in there.

        Troops will still have to be sent in. After all, the West thinks that the Maidan oligarchs and Kyiv adventurers will be able to control Bandera’s followers and fascists from western Ukraine with the help of money. Have you ever been able to communicate with people of this kind? For example, I visited, albeit with a skinhead, but it’s the same thing. People’s value system is simply broken; no amount of arguments, signs of respect or offers of friendship will convince him. It was a psychological war of American intelligence services that lasted for decades. That is why Russia and many other countries missed the growth of nationalist and fascist sentiments among young people in almost all countries of the post-Soviet space. As a result, any psychologist will point out the typical forms of schizophrenia. People live in their own imaginary world, where they are surrounded by either enemies or garbage that is beneath them to consider. And they consider themselves almost gods. Try to stop them with negotiations? It is useless to even put such people in prison. Only a special psychiatric hospital, preferably with martyrs.
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  56. Quote: Barsik
    It seems it’s time to send troops to the Bandera era

    For what?
  57. Sonyman
    +2
    7 March 2014 10: 56
    Guys, everything is actually very serious, I have information from Kyiv from some people, I won’t go further, just in case.
    Along the way, Bandera's purge of the East begins - it's no longer possible to just hold a rally!!! We need to organize checkpoints at the entrances to Donetsk today, storm the corrupt police and SBU officers with weapons in their hands, it will only get worse!!!!
  58. -3
    7 March 2014 10: 56
    инфа от http://svidomitov.net/2014/03/06/%D1%81%D0%B1%D1%83-%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%

    B4%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9-%D0%B3%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%8

    0-%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%87%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%8B-%D0%BF/
  59. Quote: Sonyman
    take the corrupt police and SBU officers by storm with weapons in their hands, it will only get worse!!!!


    Who should take it? Do you mean to free Gubarev?
  60. Yaromir
    0
    7 March 2014 11: 00
    A crowd of thousands without a leader or special training is a “big air shaker.” Where are the Eastern “soldiers of fortune”, where is the specific plan of action - there is nothing. The east of Ukraine, with such actions, will be crushed not only morally but also physically (one activist at a time). It's all quite sad.
  61. -3
    7 March 2014 11: 01
    Quote: Pensioner of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
    Who should take it? Do you mean to free Gubarev?

    Have you rented out your anus to the gayrope? So let the people decide for themselves - where it will be and with whom it will be
    1. wk-083
      -3
      7 March 2014 12: 31
      Quote: Barsik
      Have you rented out your anus to the gayrope? So let the people decide for themselves - where it will be and with whom it will be

      I passed yours! Who are you provocateur with?
  62. -1
    7 March 2014 11: 03
    Quote: jjj
    It is not administration buildings that are to be captured, but banks, communication lines, and media. By general strikes, the situation is heating up. It's time to act like an adult


    Well, according to Lenin's telegraph, these are train stations and banks. Well, I’m afraid the horse races will scare the Russian oligarchs, why do they need a leftist Ukraine? If they learn to demand higher salaries and lower the retirement age, why do they need these hemorrhoids.
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 11: 25
      Why does Russia need constant hemorrhoids at the border, in the form of unemployed and gangs of people who don’t like to work, who will wander around in search of profit? Why do we need thousands of refugees, who will further devalue the labor market in Russia (prices will only rise now, and workers there will be even fewer places). Why terrorists who will raid the territory in flocks, because “partners” will do everything for this, why foreign missiles and bases at our borders. All these are fantasies... no, these are parallels, remember and count how many such “parallels” have been drawn in the World recently. Everything is relative.
  63. Quote: Barsik
    Quote: Pensioner of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
    Who should take it? Do you mean to free Gubarev?

    Have you rented out your anus to the gayrope? So let the people decide for themselves - where it will be and with whom it will be

    And you are Bandera scum... A Nazi provocateur. Go to your Bandera sites! Z\a\d\r\o\t.
    1. wk-083
      +1
      7 March 2014 12: 37
      It's time to suppress the vagrant leopards!
  64. +1
    7 March 2014 11: 20
    Quote: Tersky
    The police are gradually pushing people out and freeing the roadway. They act quite tough. Taking in the ring, activists are closed one by one and in groups in special buses. The rest rush to the aid of the detainees. The convoy is blocked by everything that comes to hand. People turn over garbage containers, carry trees, move cars. Departure is closed by de-energizing the trolley bus.
    As a result, the police surrender and release the detainees.
    So it should be in all cities, villages, southeast. Only a massive opposition of the people can break the back of the brown plague creeping into this region. Power must be taken into our own hands, and as soon as possible while the scumbags from the Maidan are still in a state of euphoria from the Pyrrhic "victory" and have not gathered their strength into a fist. An example of this is the Crimea.

    Moreover, the police were mainly from Lvov, about 600 fighters were brought there. They no longer rely on their local one.
  65. Pesnyadv
    +1
    7 March 2014 11: 34
    Quote: mirag2
    Somewhere here recently about Gubarev was just about an interview with his wife:


    A brave and courageous woman.
    I feel like I’m at a loss without my husband, but there’s no despair!!!
  66. 0
    7 March 2014 11: 38
    Guys, maybe I’ve become suspicious, but isn’t everything too picturesque somehow with Gubarev. I also read the interview with my wife, and there is no feeling that there are any experiences there.....
    Tell me, does anyone know if it’s possible to break an arm when a person just tries to get to the microphone? In my opinion, this is somehow technically impossible.
    Again, Crimea did not start with separatism. Crimea simply did not recognize Kyiv’s proteges and corrupt PRs and wanted its own people. They then simply demanded that the deputies answer directly who they were for. The deputies muttered, but it didn’t work. Even when Chaly was installed, they didn’t really talk about joining, but simply rejected the junta.
    Here there is an obvious game for defeat - a clear stump, separatism is soldered in. Maybe this is all a setup? To identify the real fighters against the Nazis and neutralize them, and intimidate the people? Let them blow off steam and intimidate?
  67. 0
    7 March 2014 11: 42
    The people of the east and south must show their will, not besieged halfway, continue to put pressure on the kyev’s exiles. Do not allow the installation of Gauleiters.
  68. -1
    7 March 2014 11: 43
    Yesterday I followed the events in Donetsk on Twitter. Along the way, the guy was taken to Kyiv. In general, yesterday gave a lot of food for thought. Let me share.
    Throughout the second half of the day, the Rada and the Armed Forces of Crimea were breaking performance records: as soon as some accept something in relation to others, the others immediately reverse it.
    What do we end up with? Turchinov dissolves the Armed Forces of Crimea; Crimea, having not yet decided on its independent status, is already beginning to join the Russian Federation, starting from Sevastopol. In Donetsk, Gubarev was not touched for several days, but now he has been arrested. In Kharkov, one of the pro-Russian leaders also disappeared.
    Based on the situation, it seems that the GDP has decided to limit itself to Crimea. It’s easier with legal status there too.
    But I think, you can blame me, that putting the issue of Crimea’s entry into the Russian Federation to a referendum is premature. Because those regions that would like to join Crimea, now legally in the current situation it will simply be impossible to do this. Okay - Crimea, even in Europe there are people who believe that the Russian Federation has rights to the peninsula, but with regard to other regions of the South-East, even loyalists will have the opposite opinion. It would be a different matter if Crimea declared its independence. They swallowed Kosovo - they would have eaten that too. The Russian Federation would not have lost anything. And on this basis, other regions could gain ground, if only on the basis that Crimea in this case acted as a rallying point against the illegitimate government. And in the current situation, I am convinced that in the South-East they will crush not only the resistance, which is already going unsteadily, but there will not be any referendum, they will talk - and that’s all.
    Regarding punitive operations, believe me, the new government has no need for this, because in the South-East they rose up not so much against the language law, which was not enforced anyway, but against the fact that buses with Banderaites were traveling. They were kicked out of the Regional State Administration and calmed down. Plus brainwashing on TV.
    Whether they will finish us off physically, I’m not sure, but ideologically and economically, yes.
    Let me sum up the intermediate results:
    1) What the Russian Federation received (will receive in the near future as a result of all this):
    - Territory;
    - Population (both those living in this territory and those that will move to the Russian Federation);
    - We bought 30% of debt securities in the West.
    - The rise of patriotism and consolidation in the Russian Federation.
    2) What did Ukraine get as a result?
    - loss of territory, including resort lands;
    - population outflow;
    - outflow of income;
    - probable signing of the association and joining NATO.
    - the oligarchs openly gained control of not only territories with a population, but also the opportunity to control those billions of credit that are now coming from the West.
    3) What did the Crimeans get?
    - independence
    - Prospects for economic recovery with infrastructure development with the help of the Russian Federation, taking into account what has been done to Sochi in recent years.
    4) What did (will) the South-Eastern regions receive?
    - those who hoped for something - disappointment
    - ideological press
    - economic pressure due to future obligations to the IMF.
    So far, at this stage, having the information available in resources, this is how I see the situation.
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 12: 18
      I put a "minus" - your post was smelly and a repost from other resources. Before downvoting your posts, I read all your comments on the topic of Ukraine, especially this one Foma UA March 3, 2014 00:23 | In Lugansk, participants in the “Russian Spring” captured the Regional State Administration http://topwar.ru/40656-v-luganske-uchastniki-russkoy-vesny-zahvatili-oga-i-prosy
      at-u-putina-vvesti-voyska.html#comment-id-2020789 and they ask Putin to send troops, after all, there is a scent.
      1. -1
        7 March 2014 12: 38
        Andrew 447

        I found the post you mention on one of the Ukrainian sites and simply put it up for discussion, pointing out that it could be misinformation. I wanted to know the opinion of forum members on this matter. But other than pointing out the minuses, no one answered anything intelligible about it.
        They gave you a minus, so to speak, for “wrong behavior,” right? laughing
        Well, God be with him.

        Regarding the current situation, I am waiting for your comments. Yes, and by the way, the above regarding the situation in the Southeast is my personal opinion, not a repost. This is an easy attempt at analysis. If anyone else has written something similar on other forums, I’m very glad that the thoughts converge. There are still thoughts and information, but I will refrain from posting it for a while, since all this will continue for a long time. But there is hope.
    2. +1
      7 March 2014 17: 05
      Judging by the information, the population of southwestern Ukraine was delayed in development in the 40s
      the interlocutors cannot connect two words. Destroying monuments - what savagery. If a people does not remember its past, it has no future. I never thought that way about Ukrainians. It was very reminiscent of the monument fall on the banana civilization.
      Go to the EU, no one is stopping you. Speak your language with Latin alphabet. Toilets must be cleaned silently.
  69. +1
    7 March 2014 11: 47
    Yeah! They began to press slowly. Easterners need to make up their minds, otherwise the fictitious “Holodomor” will seem like paradise to them. A lot of blood will be spilled.
  70. +1
    7 March 2014 12: 03
    The police are gradually pushing people back and clearing the roadway. They act quite harshly. They encircle activists, one by one and in groups, and lock them up in special buses.
    Was it so weak on the Maidan?
    Where is the civilized world with pies? Where are his tears?..
  71. +1
    7 March 2014 12: 04
    Here is a statement from Filatov, deputy of the new governor of the Dnepropetrovsk region, oligarch Kolomoisky.


    And here is the link to the original: https://www.facebook.com/borys.filatov/posts/603173516431216
  72. Grandfather Victor
    +1
    7 March 2014 12: 21
    Any revolution is only worth anything if it knows how to defend itself! (V.I. Lenin). The revolution in Donbass against Kyiv usurpers and outright Nazi bandits must also be able to defend itself! We need people's self-defense units numbering tens of thousands of people who are ready to defend their legitimate rights and interests with arms in hand. Without this, the Kyiv bandits will crush the resistance and carry out mass Nazi terror! Delay is like death! People, be careful!
  73. +1
    7 March 2014 12: 26
    Apparently, the United States is still trying to achieve its main goal: to pit the people of Russia and Ukraine in a bloody massacre. This is precisely their vile psychology! And then catch your “fish” in this muddy water...
    Most importantly, if you trust the media, the “striped ones” have already appeared in the den of banderlogs. They have already lost Crimea, now they will try to prevent the loss of Donetsk, Kharkov, Zaporozhye, etc. That's why:
    1. Send Russian special forces there incognito to deal with the striped “peacekeepers”;
    2. In the east and south, hold a referendum on separating these regions from Ukraine, and in the image
    and the likeness of Crimea will go under the jurisdiction of Russia;
    3. Catch and hang Klitschko, Yatsenyuk, etc., that is, everyone who unleashed this bacchanalia.
    Let all the remaining regions of Ukraine try this stew called the European Union!
    Unfortunately, there are many of them, I mean zombified people, completely fooled by propaganda
    Ukrainian media for 20 years of independence and independence.
  74. 0
    7 March 2014 12: 31
    And that the site http://svidomitov.net is blocked?
  75. 0
    7 March 2014 12: 32
    Bandernya declared war. Snot aside - fight, fight. All rules are also aside.
  76. +2
    7 March 2014 12: 53
    I’ll add from myself about Donetsk.
    Like it or not, you can’t do without a mass strike with the participation of the media as much as possible, without provocations and all sorts of insanity, this is the lot of an illegitimate government.
    It is clear that this is not a one-day rally in support of something, but a purposeful movement of EVERYONE who is against the Kyiv lawlessness.
    For this purpose, I would take a vacation without pay without a bazaar; one week would be enough to resolve the issue.
    But there’s no point in drooling, family is sacred, but after all, an attempt is being made on the family by all these Yatsenyuks Klitschko tyagniboks white black green...
  77. 0
    7 March 2014 12: 53
    This is how things will go and not only will they wait for a popular revolt. Bender’s scum are already controlling military units, identifying unpatriotic commanders. A very dangerous game with fire. Unhappy military men, even with small arms, this is not a Maidan with clubs and Molotov cocktails
  78. tnship2
    +1
    7 March 2014 13: 06
    How can the nits who grabbed Gubarev call themselves “Alpha”? WAFFLE is their name! These are the horned's willing helpers. Alpha cannot be a litter. It becomes disgusting and disgusting. How will they live after this? Dovlatov has the lines: - “I wanted to sell my soul to the devil, but I had to give it away for nothing. What could be more shameful? This is about them. Alpha! Don't make people laugh, scum.
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  80. +5
    7 March 2014 13: 52
    My dear brothers in Ukraine! I want to ask you just one question: WHERE WERE YOU ALL WHEN THIS Bendery bastard was growing up?
  81. bercut
    0
    7 March 2014 13: 58
    Now, of course, with the introduction of the Russian army, the initiative has been lost, now the people urgently need to arm themselves; they need at least 20-25 thousand self-defense fighters to capture not only administrative institutions and communications centers, but also to hold and control them. First of all, it is necessary to disarm the police and force them to accept neutrality.
  82. +1
    7 March 2014 14: 19
    If a people's leader were arrested in Lvov, the entire city would come to his defense and sweep away all the authorities in the city. The junta is testing the people of Donbass (the largest region of the country) for their courage and ability to defend their basic rights.
  83. +3
    7 March 2014 14: 21
    True or not? Marat Musin reported about an hour ago...

    Donetsk Berkut refused to carry out the orders of Pozhidaev and the junta. The fighters occupied the premises of the regional administration. We need the help of the people - pickets.

    http://anna-news.info/node/13923
  84. DMB-78
    0
    7 March 2014 14: 22
    While the east is maturing, the west is becoming impudent. and so far the score is in his favor. Spring is just around the corner, we need to ripen faster before the harvest is lost.
  85. +1
    7 March 2014 14: 41
    Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
    .
    By the Crimea troops from all over Ukraine.
    .


    Provocateur! What troops? What are you talking about?
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 15: 40
      Unfortunately, I didn’t save the link to the video posted on YouTube. Column of "Hurricanes" and column of "Bukov".

      Judging by the news and the radio in the car, the DVR footage was taken the other day. Although the sound could have been superimposed.
  86. 0
    7 March 2014 14: 44
    Quote: Russ69
    True or not? Marat Musin reported about an hour ago...

    Donetsk Berkut refused to carry out the orders of Pozhidaev and the junta. The fighters occupied the premises of the regional administration. We need the help of the people - pickets.

    http://anna-news.info/node/13923

    Interesting information, where did it come from? (grandmother said?)
  87. kelevra
    +1
    7 March 2014 14: 53
    Smash the black evil! Fascist scum and maydauns! We are comrades, go to the end!
  88. +2
    7 March 2014 15: 35
    As a LifeNews correspondent reports, in Donetsk, soldiers of the Ukrainian special police unit "Berkut", who are stationed at a base near the regional center, refused to follow orders from the Kyiv authorities.

    They oppose the detention of people who go to a rally in support of the people-elected governor of the Donetsk region, Pavel Gubarev, and against the actions of the new authorities of Ukraine.

    Earlier, this information was confirmed in an interview with LifeNews by the wife of the people-elected governor of the Donetsk region, Pal Gubareva, Ekaterina.

    “I was informed that the Donetsk Berkut refused to carry out orders from Kyiv,” she said. - The guys are asking for support.

    Ekaterina Gubareva announced today that she will continue the work of her detained husband. At the same time, she does not hide the fact that she is also afraid of detention.

    - I am a mother of three children. I have a newborn baby in my arms. But nothing can stop us. We have reached the boiling point. I am my husband’s reliable support, I need to continue his fight. I know everything that Pavel planned, I’ll adjust it a little and carry it out,” says Ekaterina.
  89. +2
    7 March 2014 15: 36
    Ukrainians! Don't chew your snot --- In Donetsk, "Berkut" refused to carry out orders from Kyiv. http://lifenews.ru/news/128614
  90. +1
    7 March 2014 15: 40
    The lawyer stated that Gubarev is in the Main Investigation Department of the SBU in Kyiv.
    http://lifenews.ru/news/128610
  91. +3
    7 March 2014 16: 01
    OH....THE obscurantists themselves don’t know what they’re doing... And the Jewish Masons are rubbing their hands, everything is according to plan!
  92. +4
    7 March 2014 16: 05
    Damn, it’s a pity that there won’t be enough of our polite guys for the whole of Ukraine....although to hell with the Westerners, they haven’t been friends there for a long time. But it’s such a pity for the rest of us (and in the West, of course, we’re also ours)! I would like to just have such a gigantic landing of polite guys on tigers so that they can stand in the streets and tell the entire fascist caudle SHA! You won't make a mess here!
  93. DMB-78
    +5
    7 March 2014 16: 07
    Meet me. Afro-Banderist Obamchuk
  94. Leshka
    +1
    7 March 2014 16: 27
    God forbid there will be a massacre there
  95. 0
    7 March 2014 16: 46
    Donetsk, published today...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFgrVQ9O6Ic
  96. +1
    7 March 2014 16: 56
    Quote: Gagarin
    The SBU is astonishing, either they forgot how the Golden Eagle styles, or rather it has long been Avatar of the SBU / CIA.

    If the US Ambassador presented the diplomas, then of course...
  97. DMB-78
    0
    7 March 2014 17: 21
    A cry for help from Odnoklassniki

    Olga Dudnik
    16:57
    ღ♥ღ Irina Kilina (Ilyina) ღ♥ღ
    09:44
    TV AND ALL ONLINE CAMERAS HAVE BEEN BLOCKED IN DONETSK They are asking you to spread information over the network and preferably who has access to the EUROPEAN network!! LIGHTNING URGENT Slaughter CALL FOR HELP c. Crimeans, We are residents of DONBASS, asking for help, asking for help in organizing a confrontation against the illegitimate government in Kyiv. Today, as you probably already know, Pavel Gubarev, the people's governor elected at the people's assembly, was arrested illegally, in violation of all laws. We are desperately trying to storm the SBU to free him, but we don’t know how to proceed further and what to do. What path should we take to defend our truth? It coincides with yours. We need a coordinator to guide us correctly. I kindly ask you to help in any way you can with advice or actions. I ASK EVERYONE TO SEND AT LEAST FIVE COPIES TO CONTACT US ON TWITTER AND FACEBOOK!!! ON ALL NETWORKS!!!!
    You and 5
    reply
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 17: 47
      Webcam link:

      http://velton.ua/ru/webcams/Wide2HQ.shtml

      It's completely calm there for now.

      But on the website "Mediavector.org" there is such a hat:

      "
      The organizers and those involved in the murders of people on the Maidan have been made public: plans and names
      Today, 01:07 | News


      Snipers on Maidan The snipers on Institutskaya were soldiers of the Special Operations Unit of the Internal Troops and the Omega special forces, and the former first deputy of the GRU of the Russian Federation helped in preparing the special operation.

      This was stated by deputy Gennady, who presented documents obtained with the help of employees of the SBU and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

      “Patriotic employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the SBU helped collect materials about the criminal activities of law enforcement officers at their own risk. In the end, I ended up with plans for special operations to forcefully disperse the protests “Boomerang” and “Volna,” he wrote.”

      In full:

      http://www.mediavektor.org/3342-obnarodovany-organizatory-i-prichastnye-k-ubiyst
      vam-lyudey-na-maydane-plany-i-familii.html

      Oh..li, there are no words...
      1. DMB-78
        0
        7 March 2014 18: 24
        Quote: skifd
        Oh..li, there are no words...

        belay Goebbels not only smokes nervously, but pees boiling water out of envy
  98. Kostya pedestrian
    0
    7 March 2014 17: 49
    I wonder what kind of wicked entertainment was betrayed to Donetsk by the Ben Derivists? It’s clear there: Makhno, the world is changing in the steppe, anarchy - they don’t know how to work, they don’t know how to love, they can’t even make a lollipop properly, and Donetsk is the forge of ESSESER.

    What did they say in Rus'? That blacksmiths are the slowest, but smartest people in the village, to whom everyone went for advice.

    Here it’s better to get together yourself, and put the quarrel with Bendera on their backs. Let them run wild on their own, but why does Donbas need alien anarchy?



    PieS: By the way, has anyone ever wondered why Ukrainians are called hohlandians? Those. Finland... and fin means “end” in Russian. So who is the end of us or them; and in what context?

    By the way, let the USA take back its California from the Japavas. Look, they will help us take back Crimea, and we will return California to them. True, their thieves are not ours - look at the logo of the shuttle mission. Low school! As Agatha Christie sings, “longing without a beginning!”




    PieS: By the way, ai-ki-do with bamboo sticks is unlikely to break a NASA helmet, but if junk falls from the sky, then it’s not known where the end of the world will come. I hope not off the coast of Ru-MY-nii
  99. 0
    7 March 2014 18: 11
    I strongly suspect that all Ukrainians capable of expressing an active position have left for the Maidan a long time ago. What remains is a handful of rebellious Russians and working Ukrainians. So the Ukrainians are working and waiting for the Russians to strike something, maybe Russia will do something, in general, they are waiting for someone else to pull the chestnuts out of the fire. The striking Russians are small in number and they do not have a normally strong, charismatic leader with experience in power and command. The Russians want a referendum, which the Ukrainians do not want - so the riots are doomed from the start. But while the Ukrainians are waiting, the Right Sector will become the army of Ukraine, bills from housing and communal services will come, factories will stop and other delights that the evil orange gremlins have come up with. Then it will be too late to change something, Yarosh will definitely not allow it. Maybe Ukrainians will be reassured by a visa-free space, but isn’t the price for this pleasure too high? There is no question that this will happen, the EU does not need bandits like Muzychko and Yarosh.
  100. 0
    7 March 2014 18: 20
    ....for starters.....treat the SBU of Donetsk to MOLOTOV cocktails.....the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the Donetsk region.....after all, everything was written before us and worked out very well in KYIV!!!! soldier