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Vladimir Ogryzko and his plans to return nuclear weapons to Ukraine

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Regarding the former Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Ogryzko I have long had the impression of lack of professionalism and inadequacy. One история with Romania says a lot. Then, under the guidance of Vladimir Ogryzko, Ukraine lost 80% of the oil and gas bearing shelf of the Black Sea, which Romania sued. It was the most solid diplomatic defeat of Ukraine in all recent years. Moreover, the defeat, which the country went consciously, trying to please the EU and demonstrate its kneeling before the European international court.


Confirmation of their classical parameters of the nationalist politician Ohryzko gives out, as they say - on a mountain, regularly, and with unique perseverance.

"Vzhe wrote about the need for the improvement of the crock on the basis of the agreement on the Treaty on nuclear disruption of the nuclear industry. We have here for all that is necessary. Potrіbna liche political will. (Already wrote about the need to take steps to withdraw from the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear weapons and begin the process of its creation. We have all the necessary opportunities for this. Only political will is needed)

Ale, obviously, will be lacking. We are going to need to turn to those about the missiles of a little and that middle distance, radius of the next few, enough to get our “guarantor” - the aggressor of the enemies, about it. So, itself, as an example of a nuclear warfare, you can be satisfied with the quality of production. But again, - the power of the political will ", (But it is obvious that these steps will not be enough. We need to immediately return to the topic of short-range and medium-range missiles, the range of which will be completely sufficient for our “guarantor” aggressor to understand what is being said. Also, like in the case of nuclear weapons, you can quickly get these products. Again, this is a question of political will ”, our wonderful diplomat writes in his blog.

In this context, we can call it by this word, only in the definition - “double folded document”, because real and even former diplomats speak not such delusional language in such a terrible situation. Instead of looking for ways to solve the problem in which they themselves had driven the country, all Ukrainian conscious politicians continue to take steps leading to the final split and destruction of their beloved state by us and us. And if they carry out any measures to roll back, it makes a ridiculous impression. What kind of nuclear status can we talk about now? What rockets? For sure, pan ogryzko lost the ability to think for fear.

It would be interesting to know the reaction Merkel on such a statement. Or Obama. I fully admit that such gentlemen as McCain are happy - a downed Vietnamese pilot, Polish leaders (these guys are always good when Ukraine acts like a hutsul with a hangover) or Baltic state ladies and men, these titans of the Northern Hemisphere.

"The alogical nature of imperial thinking lies in the fact that it does not take into account the realities. Willingness is taken into account, and not what happens in reality. Already today, Crimeans say to the camera that before the arrival of the Russian special forces there was order, and now the mess has begun. And this is the answer to the Kremlin "strategists" who plan their operations. If people do not want to be slaves, they will not become them, but this in Moscow cannot be understood at all, "- these are his words yesterday in an interview with Gordon.ya.


The illogical nature of the nationalist's thinking lies in the inability to open eyes wide and see the real picture. This is natural, because such a person brushes aside alternative sources of information, sees around him what fits into his matrix and does not want to hear anything else.

And what can we read today in absolutely all the leading Ukrainian media? Here are just the headlines about Crimea, completely identical from the Censor and the Expresso to the UE and the Desert.

Compared to the "independent" Ukrainian media community, the matrix is ​​not only resting, but also nervously smoking in the corner.

The puppet Council of Crimea appointed a referendum on joining the Russian Federation on March 16. The puppet Council of Crimea decided not to hesitate to join Russia. Puppets of the Kremlin are going to translate the Crimea into rubles. Puppets of the Kremlin have already called the Ukrainian troops occupiers, and the Crimea-Russia.

I do not distort anything - you can easily verify this yourself. This is what we call honest media and nothing else. Vladimir Ogryzko clearly reads them.

Well, what he thinks about the Crimea Arseny Yatsenyuk, our prime minister?

Naturally, the illegitimately appointed prime minister does not recognize either the Crimean government or the referendum on its territorial affiliation scheduled for March 16. I think that Arseny Petrovich is expecting another big disappointment in his life soon.

But in the 2007 year, when Mr. Yatsenyuk was the Minister of Foreign Affairs, he was ready to recognize the sovereignty of Kosovo, which had been torn off from Serbia in general without complying with any Serbian or international laws.

"If the sovereign status of the province of Kosovo is supported by the UN Security Council resolution, Ukraine will immediately also support this resolution and fully implement it ", - Arseny Petrovich assured the world community of his loyalty, who visited in July 2007 of the year the self-segregated, indivisible part of the Constitution of Serbia.

Let's hear what he said Владимир Путин in the same year 2007 about Kosovo:

"Once again I want to emphasize, we believe that support for the unilateral declaration of independence of Kosovo is immoral and illegal. I do not want to say, so as not to offend anyone, but 40 has existed in fact for an independent republic of Northern Cyprus for years. Why don't you recognize her? Are you not ashamed at all, by Europeans, with such double standards, to approach the solution of the same issues in different regions of the world? We are always told: in Kosovo - a special case. Lies are everything, there is no special case there, and everyone understands this perfectly well. It is necessary to develop a common principle for solving these issues. We do not drive the situation into a dead end, we invite our partners to develop common rules of conduct. "

You worked? Of course not. For each situation, the Free World has a different approach. For the tyrant of Bahrain - one, for the president of Syria - the other. It all depends on loyalty and friendly relations, which are in complete subordination to the policies of the US State Department.

Now, Ukraine’s ostrich policy has driven the country into a dead end. The new-old Ukrainian government consists of those politicians who all years of independence did not have their own opinion, ran errands in various UN missions, were ready to stick their heads in any loop, just to earn praise from some European politician or another US Secretary of State or a messenger. And now you have driven your own country into a moral, international and economic impasse, from which there is no way out.

And all this has always been seen by citizens of Ukraine, including Crimeans ...
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  1. Capyar 48315
    Capyar 48315 7 March 2014 21: 28
    +26
    the stubs must be disposed of. "Ukrainians! finally take out the garbage from the hut! The stench is unbearable throughout the whole world."
    1. 222222
      222222 7 March 2014 22: 25
      +18
      A diplomat of such a high level should know
      Ukraine did not have nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons of the USSR Armed Forces were on the territory of the USSR. Naturally, the Treaty returned nuclear weapons to the legal successor of the USSR for paper guarantees of sovereignty. Here and the whole bazaar ..
      1. avg
        avg 7 March 2014 22: 27
        +13
        Quote: 222222
        A diplomat of such a high level would need to know. Ukraine did not have nuclear weapons.

        "Sanko Muzychko with a Vigorous Bomb". We need to shoot a cartoon and send it to the Berlin and Venice festivals.
        1. SHILO
          SHILO 7 March 2014 22: 31
          +15
          Quote: avg
          "Sanko Muzychko with a Vigorous Bomb". We need to shoot a cartoon and send it to the Berlin and Venice festivals.


          I can not! I can no longer read this news. There were not enough monkeys with nuclear weapons on our heads. Everything. I went to drink tea.
        2. 222222
          222222 7 March 2014 22: 33
          +3
          a cartoon can ... But, DO NOT ..
        3. Tersky
          Tersky 7 March 2014 23: 06
          +9
          Quote: avg
          "Sanko Muzychko with a Vigorous Bomb".

          I dare to assure you, this is a terrible monkey with a grenade ..
      2. 222222
        222222 7 March 2014 22: 32
        +7
        countries that have developed are considered nuclear states. tested and adopted nuclear weapons before 1967. Who will allow Ukraine, located in the center of Europe, to have nuclear weapons. the Yankees and Europe will be against and against in the forefront of such a nuclear partner ... Germany, under pressure from the Greens, is closing even nuclear power plants .. I would not be surprised if tomorrow Germany or the United States offers him free treatment in their best clinics .. our VIPs love here " earn money in the sweat of your brow "and get treatment over the hill ..
        1. KazaK Bo
          KazaK Bo 7 March 2014 23: 15
          +4
          Who will allow Ukraine, located in the center of Europe to have nuclear weapons. the Yankees and Europe will be against and against in the forefront of such a nuclear partner.

          If such a political decision is made ... then there will always be good students based on the experience of ISRAEL - with their showdown lessons for those who wish on Bl. East create poison. weapons .... It is unlikely that these political decisions will even reach draft developments ... not to mention layouts of overall weight products ...
        2. KazaK Bo
          KazaK Bo 7 March 2014 23: 15
          0
          Who will allow Ukraine, located in the center of Europe to have nuclear weapons. the Yankees and Europe will be against and against in the forefront of such a nuclear partner.

          If such a political decision is made ... then there will always be good students based on the experience of ISRAEL - with their showdown lessons for those who wish on Bl. East create poison. weapons .... It is unlikely that these political decisions will even reach draft developments ... not to mention layouts of overall weight products ...
      3. Rus2012
        Rus2012 7 March 2014 22: 33
        +4
        Quote: 222222
        for paper guarantees of sovereignty

        in the form of an unratified memorandum (protocol of intent) ...
      4. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 7 March 2014 22: 39
        +7
        The stub should not be disposed of, but put on a stake so that such politicians don’t get in there who sell their homeland for 30 pieces of silver. He stub and Africa stub his place in the garbage.
      5. Combitor
        Combitor 7 March 2014 22: 50
        +8
        Quote: 222222
        Ukraine did not have nuclear weapons.

        Even if Ogryzko's hallucinations become a reality, I suspect that Ukraine may find itself in the role of a savage who has taken possession of a nuclear (chemical, bacteriological, or God knows what else) baton. Accordingly, the fate of Syria or Iraq awaits it. Especially if we take into account the political views of the current newly-minted Ukrainian "leaders", what is wrong with their heads and the fact that they are so actively using baseball bats in achieving their goals. And what will happen when instead of bits they have missiles with nuclear warheads in their hands?
        The West only pretends that it is "fighting" for a united and independent Ukraine. In fact, in the plans of the West, Ukraine will face the fate of Yugoslavia, when the state will be divided into small appanage principalities. A united, strong and independent, conducting its policy without looking back to the West, the Slavic state is not needed in Europe and the United States.
        Therefore, in no case should Russia be given slack in the "Ukrainian" issue. And if Western Ukraine can "leave" us, then we must fight for the southeast and the Crimea. If we lose, we will be "devoured".
        I think I'm not alone in my opinion.
        Moreover, it is not clear why in the Russian information space there are still such "mouthpieces" of the "fifth column" as, for example, "Daily Journal", which, through the mouths and hands of such "authors" as Satarov, Shenderovich, Latynina, Orekh, Podrabinek, Golts, Ryklin (chief editor) and others openly support the fascist-Bandera Kiev regime and throw mud at Russia and everything connected with it, especially in solving the Ukrainian question?
        1. 222222
          222222 7 March 2014 23: 06
          +5
          Moreover, it is not clear why such "mouthpieces" still exist in the Russian information space ...
          .. they are illuminated .. the people have a stable opinion about them .. Why? Why create problems for yourself, new ones will come ... may be smarter .. and more impudent ..
          1. Combitor
            Combitor 8 March 2014 01: 15
            0
            Quote: 222222
            .. they are lit ..

            This is clear to the hedgehog.
            But the fact that they put our Russia on the same level with Germany in the 1930s and 40s is too much, in my opinion. They expose the Russian people in the form of a zombie cattle, which understands nothing and stupidly obeys the orders of Moscow and the Kremlin. Putin is identified with Hitler.
            Our struggle for the Crimea - with the Anschluss of Austria or the seizure of Czechoslovakia. Demonstrations and rallies in support of the Crimea - well-staged performances to which people were brought by force and under guard on buses ...
            This is too much. For this you have to beat the muzzle.
            Our country (and Ukraine in its composition) suffered most from the Nazis. And these scribblers now sing along to the fascist Kiev regime and support the Neo-Bandera.
          2. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 8 March 2014 07: 46
            0
            Quote: Kombitor
            Moreover, it is not clear why in the Russian information space there are still such "mouthpieces" of the "fifth column" as, for example, "Daily Journal", which, through the mouths and hands of such "authors" as Satarov, Shenderovich, Latynina, Orekh, Podrabinek, Golts, Ryklin (chief editor)

            every housewife has a garbage can in the kitchen so that garbage does not lie around the apartment. and if praises are heard from the "garbage can", it is worth thinking about the correctness of the chosen tactics
        2. from punk
          from punk 7 March 2014 23: 52
          +3
          Stalinism is bad. But damn you want it-Stalin has no nits on you
        3. Darek
          Darek 8 March 2014 00: 12
          +1
          Quote: Kombitor
          Satarov, Shenderovich, Latynina, Nut, Podrabinek, Goltz, Ryklin


          So this is all the same ... Oh, excuse me, Jews!
          But did you really want them from them?
      6. GSH-18
        GSH-18 7 March 2014 23: 04
        +7
        Dear adequate Ukrainians. You must for yourself ironically understand one thing, or you, or Bendera and other irresponsible trash. The goals are clear as never before: benders to the wall, bits in the loony bin, Yankees get! Self-proclaimed government of illiterate bandits down. New fair elections after normalization. Only in this way will you save your country and avoid civil war. Forward Russia will help you.
        Sincerely, your neighbors and blood brothers.
      7. Dilshat
        Dilshat 7 March 2014 23: 10
        +3
        At one time, Ceausescu decided to create a nuclear weapon ... It is impossible to imagine a more guaranteed method of suicide then. It’s the same as trying to lift a weapon from the ground when two are standing next to them with the trigger on the cock.
      8. Imigrantt
        Imigrantt 8 March 2014 02: 07
        0
        What kind of diplomat is he ???? He is from the political national elite of the Ukrainian mental homosexuals - extremals !!! The first Kravchuk is a trendsetter !!! And the rest are the successors of traditions !!!! Including the latter !!! Now they even acquired a former boxer, though his adherents cooled him (or lowered him) a little !!! And it's good that with a fire extinguisher, otherwise they could, in a narcotic-alcoholic frenzy, and write off !!!!! An excellent company gathered at all !!! And all European views !! And this is alarming !!!! Vague doubts creep in !!! Is everything pious in the "Danish Kingdom" ????? Tolerance !!! European values ​​!!! And diplomacy in the same vein !!! What can you take from the poor !!!! Foolish fools in Russia regretted the copper served, and sometimes a weighty cuff - so that they would slightly come to their senses and not be forgotten !!!! Well, this specimen is already very much gnawed by God, in a word, a holy fool !!!! hi
      9. Alexander D.
        Alexander D. 8 March 2014 13: 00
        0
        Quote: 222222
        A diplomat of such a high level should know
        Ukraine did not have nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons of the USSR Armed Forces were on the territory of the USSR. Naturally, the Treaty returned nuclear weapons to the legal successor of the USSR for paper guarantees of sovereignty. Here and the whole bazaar ..

        And the guarantors violated their obligations - that means we have the right to arm ourselves with nuclear weapons. I think I’ll be able to build a missile for 1000-1500 km for the American appropriation ... enough for Moscow.
    2. de klermon
      de klermon 7 March 2014 23: 41
      +1
      Recycling stubs is good, but who will do something? Other bits, cobs and other watermelon peels and any husks?
      Well, and the idea ... What a surname - such and ideas ...
  2. RND
    RND 7 March 2014 21: 39
    +11
    Vladimir Ogryzko and his plans to return nuclear weapons to Ukraine

    The pan plan itself makes - the pan plan itself and smokes. But then pan Ogryzko smoked - light hallucinations turn into heavy paranoid delirium ...
    1. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 7 March 2014 22: 15
      +10
      Everything that is going on in Ukraine is paranoid nonsense.
      1. Egoza
        7 March 2014 22: 18
        +15
        Quote: JIaIIoTb
        Everything that is going on in Ukraine is paranoid nonsense.

        Well, not all !!! For example, very "consciously" ...

        In Crimea, pensioners attacked FEMEN activists. PHOTO, VIDEO. 18+
        Near the Armed Forces of Crimea, pensioners attacked FEMEN activists who tried to hold an action there against the policies of Russian President Vladimir Putin. This was reported on the organization’s website.

        The video that appeared on the Internet shows that the rally participants attacked the girls, mostly pensioners, and most of them are women. People shouted: “Beat”, “Prostitute”, “Proshmandovka”. Cossacks and law enforcement officers dragged one of the participants of the rally into the police car. FEMEN reports that the activist caught is a French citizen. FEMEN also notes that she was taken away in an unknown direction.
        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-140719.html
        Threat video insert yourself .... wink
        1. Combitor
          Combitor 7 March 2014 22: 57
          +8
          Quote: Egoza
          the activist caught is a French citizen. FEMEN also notes that she was taken away in an unknown direction.

          And I thought it was a guy. And they also say: "French women ..."
          Maybe they brought her a bust to build up?
          1. Hudo
            Hudo 7 March 2014 23: 17
            +3
            Quote: Kombitor
            Maybe they brought her a bust to build up?


            The bust is a bust, but whipping around the loin parts of this rabid female would clearly benefit.
        2. jjj
          jjj 8 March 2014 00: 03
          0
          So get dirty, and then to someone these nipples lick
        3. Ustian
          Ustian 8 March 2014 00: 05
          +3
          Well, monkey! It’s a pity, looking at the field of vision for the night, I’ll get nightmares ... belay
          1. latente eurofob
            latente eurofob 8 March 2014 01: 39
            +1
            good joke
        4. Revolver
          Revolver 8 March 2014 00: 44
          +2
          And what, they were not more sympathetic? To want this, you need to drink so much vodka that I definitely can’t handle it.
        5. internatio
          internatio 8 March 2014 04: 29
          +1
          Was there. I watched all this. Our operator was shooting. They had a cover group of linguistic aunts and little mugs that provoked the protesters. The first such provocation. Prepared since Monday. Everything is in sight. The locals see everything - and there are no counter-actions. It is a pity that there is no Iron Felix - the issue would be resolved quickly.
        6. JIaIIoTb
          JIaIIoTb 8 March 2014 07: 21
          +1
          Quote: Egoza
          the activist caught is a French citizen.


          And I look somehow clumsy. Ukrainians are much more beautiful.
          In Europe, there are apparently quite cranes with a gene pool.
  3. Androsh
    Androsh 7 March 2014 22: 14
    +37
    ............
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 7 March 2014 22: 32
      +6
      By the way, watching family relationships, everything converges. The elder always limits himself in emotions (i.e. in desires), sacrifice for kids. Therefore, he is the eldest. God grant baby Ukraine will understand this.
    2. v53993
      v53993 8 March 2014 00: 07
      +6
      Bears are growing up, for the good of Russia. And my grandson was born 02.03.14/XNUMX/XNUMX. They also called Misha. I will educate in such a way that I will strangle everyone who breathes unevenly towards Russia. Yes, and I will help myself, creaking bones.
    3. jjj
      jjj 8 March 2014 00: 07
      +1
      The picture, of course, is touching. But in truth, one of the two cubs must die. Ursa bear remains with one, and repels the other with independence over time. These cubs often die. The laws of nature in the forest
  4. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol 7 March 2014 22: 17
    +10
    Aren't you ashamed at all, Europeans, with such double standards to approach the solution of the same issues in different regions of the world?

    As I understand it, the GDP, which, 100%, would like, sometimes, just from the Soul to cut into a brazen, stupid face ... (Though sometimes confirm the Black Belt). But you have to "diplomatically" talk ...
    And how can a person talk to a monkey? Gave a banana, pressed a button!
    So you have to give exactly those "bananas" so that you don't press exactly that button.
  5. siberalt
    siberalt 7 March 2014 22: 18
    +10
    Nuclear weapons to Ukraine? The complete nonsense of insane Turchinov. From this, even for Obama, the unexpected can happen! Boom to wait. Only a short time left. laughing And the watch is tick-tick, tick-tick, tick ... That's all!

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/550/gtft90.jpg
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 7 March 2014 22: 43
      +5
      Chef, you turned down. Nuclear weapons to Ukraine? Oh, I didn’t notice: The complete nonsense of the insane Turchinov.
  6. Thomas
    Thomas 7 March 2014 22: 19
    +9
    This miracle appeared on a talk show a couple of days ago on one of the Ukrainian channels. So he said that Putin only understands the stick. Then they contacted the studio on Skype with Leonid Grach (by the way, he has been broadcasting the right thoughts in recent years), so he immediately told him that in order to threaten with a stick, you must first have it.
    In general, in my life I use the principle: when meeting a person, you need to look at him and find out his last name. It works very often.
    Ogryzko is a "stub", with him the above-mentioned 80% of the shelf was gnawed off the country. Also "snap" - what he actually does.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 7 March 2014 22: 43
      +7
      About "Putin's stick" is according to Freud laughing They happen when hands are useless.
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 8 March 2014 00: 38
        +1
        So he said that Putin understands only the stick

        They are fixated like that. Yes, let it be. Otherwise, how.
  7. pensioner
    pensioner 7 March 2014 22: 20
    +5
    whether the Baltic state ladies and men, these titans of the Northern Hemisphere.

    laughing good hi
    1. from punk
      from punk 7 March 2014 22: 52
      +3
      yes direct battle of the titans
  8. Egoza
    7 March 2014 22: 25
    +4
    US plans to supply gas to Ukraine
    Members of the U.S. House’s Energy and Commerce Committee have registered a bill allowing the export of liquefied natural gas to Eastern European countries, including Ukraine, to reduce their dependence on Russian gas supplies.
    “The events in Ukraine highlight the problems with the excessive sluggishness of the process of approving the export of liquefied natural gas. By approving this law, we are sending a clear signal that America intends to make full use of its energy resources, develop them not only for its own needs, but also to ensure gas supplies for our allies to reduce Russia's influence, " words of committee chairman Fred Upton.
    So, the document says that for countries that do not have a free trade agreement with the United States, additional approval of transactions with the Department of Energy is necessary, which takes a long time. At the same time, US Secretary of Energy Ernest Moniz announced his readiness for an open discussion of reforms with Congress.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-140724.html
    xxxxx
    Probably instead of helping to restore nuclear weapons. laughing Although how such deliveries can be made in practice? (I mean the transportation route)
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 7 March 2014 22: 37
      +8
      Quote: Egoza
      how such deliveries can be made practically

      in the form of stolen and liquefied gases, on mov exclusively sounds like that ... laughing
      -strap gas
      -blow gas
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 7 March 2014 22: 53
        +4
        Dear, with the coming you. But it was not mentioned about "steal gas".
        From the bottom of my heart, a private photo.
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/422/ffri512.jpg
      2. siberalt
        siberalt 7 March 2014 22: 53
        +3
        Dear, with the coming you. But it was not noted about "steal gas".
        With all my heart, personal photo. How many flowers, but in every woman. Be happy!
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/422/ffri512.jpg
        1. Egoza
          7 March 2014 23: 14
          +6
          Quote: siberalt
          With all my heart, personal photo

          Thank!!! Flowers are always pleasant for a woman !!! good
          1. andrei332809
            andrei332809 7 March 2014 23: 19
            +5
            Quote: Egoza
            Flowers are always pleasant for a woman !!!

            bliiiin ... here I am recourse I then you as a comrade ... sorry love
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          3. Mentor
            Mentor 8 March 2014 00: 08
            +3
            Happy holiday, dear Egoza! I wish you happiness! love
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          5. siberalt
            siberalt 8 March 2014 00: 46
            +1
            Thank you, Fidget! A bouquet with a riddle. Look at each bud and see your hypostasis. hi The world is beautiful!
          6. Averias
            Averias 8 March 2014 08: 30
            0
            Quote: Egoza
            Thank!!! Flowers are always pleasant for a woman !!!

            Let me join in the congratulations!
            Waterfalls of flowers and a vast ocean of happiness to you on this day!
            And not only this one, let everything in this life be only positive for you.
    2. 222222
      222222 7 March 2014 22: 39
      +4
      Fidget SU Today, 22:25
      The United States plans to supply gas to Ukraine .. ".... at the price of gold ???? Well done Yankees, pragmatic always and everywhere, and here they are trying to foist their ... if seriously. Will the throughput capacity of the Bosphorus make it possible? Strong doubt, and do the Turks need it?
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 7 March 2014 23: 28
        +2
        Quote: 222222
        US plans to supply gas to Ukraine

        yeah. and there they still don't sell an aircraft carrier for scrap metal? winked I’m old enough repeat
    3. pensioner
      pensioner 7 March 2014 23: 01
      +4
      Quote: Egoza
      Although how such deliveries can be made in practice? (I mean the transportation route)

      Easy! Airships ... repeat
      Well, the truth is, there all sorts of thunderous fronts can come up again ... Or mad drones ... Well ... let's not talk about sad things ...
    4. GSH-18
      GSH-18 7 March 2014 23: 20
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      US plans to supply gas to Ukraine
      Members of the U.S. House’s Energy and Commerce Committee have registered a bill allowing the export of liquefied natural gas to Eastern European countries, including Ukraine, to reduce their dependence on Russian gas supplies.

      A lope ento will cost ?? Gas at the price of gold? lol
      If only in my mind (who left) figured it out!
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 7 March 2014 23: 25
        +1
        Quote: GSH-18
        A lope ento will cost ?? Gas at the price of gold?
        If only in my mind (who left) figured it out!

        and they do not care! But not Russian gas. True, they will have to wait 5-7 years ... Well, until they build factories there and everything else ... Well, as I understand it, they are ready to wait. Today Miller said that Gazprom does not intend to supply free gas to Ukraine. said so: NOT INTENDED. Posiotrim: how they will sing in the near future. In the pipes of their gas will soon be NEMA- request
      2. andrei332809
        andrei332809 8 March 2014 00: 19
        +1
        Quote: GSH-18
        At least in my mind (who left)

        from such numbers the whole thinker leaked into jappa winked we will think in a subpendant way
      3. latente eurofob
        latente eurofob 8 March 2014 02: 04
        0
        not very expensive, 0,7-1 cents / quatt hour more expensive for liquefaction: Gazprom in Europe sells about 2-3 cents / quatt hours, the end user pays 5-6 cents in Europe, last year Qatar leaked a lot of LNG to Europe, it’s very Russian Syria spoiled prices, this is Qatar’s war over the path of its gas to Europe.
        The economy in Ukraine is without gas in one place, gas will only finish it off and don’t listen to talk about investments, they will be given money and will immediately take it as interest on loans, because that way they can blackmail and the top has something to steal, and if the bribe defaults, it’s smooth , for people it’s better to just default
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    6. Ustian
      Ustian 8 March 2014 00: 10
      +3
      Quote: Egoza
      US plans to supply gas to Ukraine

      On the internet?
  9. andrei332809
    andrei332809 7 March 2014 22: 28
    +5
    Does the last name match the content?
  10. sinukvl
    sinukvl 7 March 2014 22: 29
    +9
    What can be expected from a person with such a lot of surname Ogryzko. As the saying goes, what you call a yacht, so it will sail. Before you say something with your head, you need to think, but he has a problem with the brain. What kind of atomic bomb can be discussed, even if Ukraine buys fuel for nuclear power plants and plans to continue to buy, rather than produce its own. Because she knows that she has neither money nor industry for the enrichment of radioactive elements. Come on, there enrichment of radioactive elements, for the maintenance of the army and the support of the military-industrial complex, and even not.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 7 March 2014 23: 36
      0
      Quote: sinukvl
      What can be expected from a person with such a lot of surname Ogryzko.

      In Girlhood, Suction ... repeat
  11. raf
    raf 7 March 2014 22: 29
    +6
    (Already wrote about the need to take steps to withdraw from the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons and begin the process of its creation. We have all the necessary opportunities for this. We only need political will)
    Heh, cool! You might think that making a "vigorous" bomb is like knocking a child's scarecrow! Honestly this Ogryzko Buratino, the further into the forest the more firewood!
  12. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol 7 March 2014 22: 35
    +7
    Now the ostrich policy of Ukraine has driven the country into a dead end. The new-old Ukrainian government consists of those politicians who have not had their own opinions throughout the years of independence, ran errands in various UN missions, were ready to stick their heads in any loop, if only to earn praise from some European politician or another US Secretary of State or messenger.
    Why ostrich? There is no need to offend the birds ... They really save themselves from trouble, as nature has laid down ... But these "mutants" grown on Hamburger and Coca-Cola, they do not even belong to the Animal Kingdom. There is such an organ, an appendix, an atavism, a piece of intestine that does not affect the essence of the body in general, BUT, if it gets sick, a complete Kapets to the whole Worldview ...
    And a solution has long been found. Surgery, removal of one excess atavism from the body.
  13. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 7 March 2014 22: 40
    +3
    I wonder if Russia starts to press Ukraine about the creation of nuclear weapons as America is pressing Iran, what will happen. What will the "world community" say? In my opinion, the statement must be taken seriously and deprived of aggressive-minded citizens of the territory that gives the possibility of its creation. These are Yellow waters, Dnipropetrovsk region.
  14. konvalval
    konvalval 7 March 2014 22: 40
    +4
    We also had our own stump of Shevarnadze, who also gave the oil shelf in the Bering Strait to America, which she quickly shawled before Russia ratified it.
  15. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 7 March 2014 22: 44
    +4
    The puppet Council of Crimea appointed a referendum on joining the Russian Federation on March 16. The puppet Council of Crimea decided not to hesitate to join Russia. Puppets of the Kremlin are going to translate the Crimea into rubles. Puppets of the Kremlin have already called the Ukrainian troops occupiers, and the Crimea-Russia.

    Whose cow mumbled, but Kiev was silent. (How to swear
    1. Egoza
      7 March 2014 23: 19
      +3
      Quote: platitsyn70
      (How to swear

      And about this - too !!!!

      The mayor of the Crimean city of Belogorsk, Albert Kangiev, refused to support the referendum on the possibility of the region joining Russia. This was reported by "Crimea News".

      “In my opinion, this action has nothing in common with the referendum except the name,” the official said. According to the publication, he is of the opinion that such a referendum is contrary to the constitution and that, in addition, "there is neither the time nor the technical capabilities to sufficiently prepare for its holding."

      Earlier, Albert Kangiev was a member of the Party of Regions, which until recently had the status of the ruling in Ukraine. However, in late February, the mayor, like several other officials and deputies, announced his withdrawal from the PR (this happened against the backdrop of the defeat of the Ukrainian government in the fight against the opposition and clashes in Kiev, during which dozens of people were killed). According to QHA, he explained his move as "the impossibility of being further in the ranks of this party."

      Belogorsk is the administrative center of the Belogorsk district, it is located about 40 kilometers from Simferopol. The population, according to 2012, which are listed on the website of the city council, amounted to about 18 thousand people. In terms of ethnic composition, 35 percent were Russians, about the same were Crimean Tatars, 22 percent were Ukrainians, and 8 percent were representatives of other nationalities.

      Previously, information also appeared that the Crimean referendum was “ignored” by the acting mayor of Yalta, Sergey Karnaukh (it was distributed by Rosukrinform agency). However, the Yalta official himself denied it, noting that he was following the orders of the Crimean authorities. “Preparations for the referendum are going on as usual,” he said.
      http://www.versii.com/news/298954/
  16. uhu189
    uhu189 7 March 2014 22: 45
    +4
    And tomorrow, this shot will say that Ukraine will develop plasma weapons and a space fleet in 3 months to show Kuzkin’s mother from orbit ... A person has an acute mental disorder, which is surprising ... He needs to be treated for psychosis while it is still being treated
  17. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 7 March 2014 22: 46
    +5
    People, what are we all discussing? Here you just have to watch the performance in the circus. Barack Obama with a group of trained jackals all night in the arena.
    1. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 8 March 2014 00: 38
      +1
      Quote: A1L9E4K9S
      Here you just have to watch the circus performance

      Who lives in Ukraine does not laugh at the circus .....
  18. konvalval
    konvalval 7 March 2014 22: 46
    +4
    Quote: Egoza
    US plans to supply gas to Ukraine

    Probably free. After all, they love rabbits. And they will sell it and pay for Russian gas.
    1. from punk
      from punk 7 March 2014 22: 56
      +3
      good economy. direct communism
  19. individual
    individual 7 March 2014 22: 48
    +5
    Yeah, count it! Split a little and send in a bag. am
  20. from punk
    from punk 7 March 2014 22: 55
    +3
    your surname
  21. Potin
    Potin 7 March 2014 22: 57
    +7
    Yes, indeed, in Ukraine there is a mining and processing plant for uranium enrichment (it seems in Kramatorsk), and enterprises in Kharkov that manufacture components for missiles. If you make an effort and invest money, Ukraine is capable of creating nuclear weapons. Only, firstly, she will not have the 15 billion that Europe promised for this to be completely enough, and secondly, no one will allow this to be done. And if we take into account that five years later, using the example of the Crimea, Kharkov will join Russia along with Kramatorsk, then they will not be able to make nuclear weapons.
    1. from punk
      from punk 7 March 2014 23: 43
      +2
      out of 15 billion this year alone you have to pay debts of 9 billion and 15 is up to 20 g
  22. Committee
    Committee 7 March 2014 23: 00
    +5
    Duster, atom of self-shreddingsamm!
  23. pulemetchik_39
    pulemetchik_39 7 March 2014 23: 04
    +7
    Talking surname! After such "stubs" have turned the Ukrainian industry into stubs of the former Soviet might, nuclear weapons do not shine for them technologically. And who would have allowed it to be done technically! Can you imagine a crowd of Bandera baboons with an atomic club in the center of Europe? Personally, I don't. stop
  24. Brother
    Brother 7 March 2014 23: 05
    +7
    To own Nuclear weapons, first you need to own a brain, and the brain in Ukraine (for 22 years) does not smell, I would even say they have a full brain Хеrosima! And maybe even Nagapiss.
  25. andrei332809
    andrei332809 7 March 2014 23: 10
    +3
    unhappiness

    is it like where? belay
    1. Brother
      Brother 7 March 2014 23: 20
      +3
      You need to ask Ogryzka wassat, we are all athletes and do not use illegal drugs repeat.
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 7 March 2014 23: 32
        +2
        Quote: Brother
        You need to ask Ogryzka

        and answer? such usually do not answer for WORDS. cowardly request
    2. Egoza
      7 March 2014 23: 29
      +4
      Quote: andrei332809
      is it like where?

      nerozpovsuchennya - non-proliferation, dear Andrey!
      But here is your question, I would ask for a different reason ... (the news has just appeared. I am writing the translation right away)

      A mysterious plane took off from Borispol airport that night
      As one of the airport employees told our website, an unregistered cargo plane took off from Boryspil airport that night at 2 am.
      According to him, before this, four collector cars and two Volkswagen cargo buses arrived at the airport, on which there were no numbers. About 15 people came out of them in black uniforms, masks and body armor. Some of them were armed with machine guns. Unknown persons transferred about 40 boxes from cars to the plane.
      Moreover, some of the people also boarded the plane. The download was in great haste. After unloading, the cars quickly left the airport. After the airport staff reported this to the administration, she (the administration) in response advised "not to go where you should not."
      XXXX
      SO THIS WHERE AND HOW? YOUR VERSIONS, LADIES OF THE MILITARY? fellow
      http://www.versii.com/news/298956/
      1. gfs84
        gfs84 7 March 2014 23: 34
        +2
        Fertilizers were sent to Chile, otherwise they have problems with nitrate ...
      2. andrei332809
        andrei332809 7 March 2014 23: 48
        +2
        Quote: Egoza
        From Boryspil airport

        Happy holiday, Helen love
        he flew from Borispol in Soviet times. it was very beautiful at night. as the guy explained, ALL the lights were turned at different angles. And indeed, the WOMAN WITH THE SWORD was visible from everywhere. (I called the monument to the Motherland so as not to offend you. although ... you are from ours)
        and about the goods ... the reserve of the taurian chieftain? others then already dumb ...
      3. fktrcfylhn61
        fktrcfylhn61 7 March 2014 23: 52
        +2
        And these are the bourgeoisie local pensions and salaries in tribute to the geyrope for the mess!
  26. not main
    not main 7 March 2014 23: 30
    +2
    Quote: Egoza
    Threat video insert yourself.

    What for! What we did not see the missions?
  27. dude_not_in_theme
    dude_not_in_theme 7 March 2014 23: 31
    +1
    Greetings, guys. It’s very interesting to learn from those who have one thing in the subject. I argued today with a friend about this topic.
    In connection with recent events, they cut off with him about nuclear weapons with us and with amers. I heard somewhere that by the presence of nuclear weapons and the fact that these nuclear weapons can reach the enemy, the States can destroy us 25 times, and we them 10 times .No that my friend called me a felt boot, which is completely off topic and said that the States are yes, they can, but we won’t even be able to do them once (meaning the whole territory), this is our state of affairs now. I don’t believed, well, argued.
    Tell the guys, is that really true ???
    1. Brother
      Brother 7 March 2014 23: 42
      +7
      On the 1 since we’re scraping something together winkDon’t worry, but give your friend a nose angryso as not to spread panic drinks.
      1. dude_not_in_theme
        dude_not_in_theme 7 March 2014 23: 59
        +3
        Thank you for the answer. I won’t give him kanesh in my nose, but I’ll name it for sure) Yes, and I won’t share a beer, which he lost to me. Let beer ask for beer)
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 8 March 2014 00: 10
          +3
          Quote: dude_not_in_theme
          . Let it go beer s asks)

          GUARANTEED Mutual Destruction. these limits were not touched by a single reduction. so that in the nose you can rightfully move. and the reserves ... of two countries (the USA and Russia) are enough to SPLIT the earth. this is not counting undeclared "third" countries. but about the colonies on Mars, this is to Hollywood tongue
  28. Stinger
    Stinger 7 March 2014 23: 36
    +2
    Also, as in the case of nuclear weapons, you can quickly get these products. Again - the question is political will

    What for? He went to the Maidan, shouted three times and nuclear weapons in his hands.
  29. v53993
    v53993 7 March 2014 23: 44
    +1
    Well, if the conversation went about nuclear weapons, from the filing of stupid magazines, then that's cool. Trying to talk about what they don’t understand, without distinguishing hydrogen from deuterium, this tribe will provoke a war. The main thing is to write them, to shoot how people die, writhing in agony. I hate this corrupt tribe.
  30. loginovich
    loginovich 7 March 2014 23: 47
    +2
    The armament of the Ukrainian Armed Forces from shovels and do not need to be steamed. During our lives, other weapons will not come true though the price of nuclear weapons but this is a different topic.
  31. fktrcfylhn61
    fktrcfylhn61 7 March 2014 23: 48
    +2
    I do not want to say anything bad, Honestly! But as you call a yacht, it will sail! This bunch also has nuclear weapons! Top senility! And even more honestly, then this people and nada! To admit this, one must be either a complete cynic or a stupid cattle! And this applies to everyone and everyone! The soul must work day and night, and night and day! There is no excuse for this, because if this happened, it suits everyone! These bags have no nationality! They are their own in America, and in England, and in the geyrop, and in Ukraine, and in Russia! And if it were not for them, everything on the planet would be enough, and it would be calmer to live! Think! All the troubles are from them! All wars are from them! All who die of hunger, because of them!
  32. ekzorsist
    ekzorsist 7 March 2014 23: 54
    +3
    ... N-yes, but what do the Poles think about this ???
    Probably very, very happy - not adequate at hand, and even with a nuclear club !!!
    Here they will heal in peace and harmony.
  33. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 8 March 2014 00: 03
    +3
    A shovel in the sandbox is chopped, not nuclear weapons. And if you also moisten the sand (that is, pee), then you can also sculpt castles in the air. With spiers bully
    But nuclear weapons, God forbid, give the kids. More mischief of different tricks. Chur me. soldier
  34. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 8 March 2014 00: 08
    +2
    Ha, the illegal government does not recognize the Crimean referendum and the will of the people is not that? I wonder how many of these clowns and puppets will still enjoy the seized power and feel like kings?
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 8 March 2014 00: 23
      +2
      Quote: Fantazer911
      I wonder how many of these clowns and puppets will still enjoy the seized power and feel like kings?

      while Europe and their lips will smear lips. but they will not let me suck, they’re empty
  35. Mih
    Mih 8 March 2014 00: 14
    +2
    Stub. The surname corresponds to the hidden essence of its carrier. However, outwardly, it resembles a famous Russian actor.
    Hamlet - to be or not to be? Well no, this is not a Danish prince, but much worse.
    But it has not matured: a fruit, still green, snapped in early childhood, cannot be a thinker and burn with a verb the hearts of citizens, but it is necessary to somehow prove oneself, with such an impressive appearance. And then comes, to the skinny one, thought is a nuclear something. Nuclear - what is it? Not entirely clear, but scary. Morality. All Humanities -.
  36. Kite
    Kite 8 March 2014 00: 15
    +2
    Perhaps, only by oral legends from their ancestors, future Ukrainians will learn that they were a people in a great nuclear power. With such a pace of "entering Europe", "democratization", "freedom" and "legality", there will soon be nothing left of the industry! The IMF has long presented conditions: pensions, benefits, grants to be cut, everything to be privatized. Our example taught them nothing. We had amer's advisers at every ministry, the ruins are still not removed. What are such nuclear arsenals? Fooled like little ones! I am even surprised by the assumption that Europe needs Ukraine as an additional sales market. To whom to sell what? It is interesting to trade with rich people. For nothing, if only to distribute what needed to be disposed of, but troublesome. And they won't give it back for nothing, they'll get the last penny and write it down in debt, and make them jump "like on the Maidan."
  37. VladimS
    VladimS 8 March 2014 00: 30
    +3
    I wonder if Russia starts to press Ukraine about the creation of nuclear weapons as America is pressing Iran, what will happen. What will the "world community" say? In my opinion, the statement must be taken seriously and deprived of aggressive-minded citizens of the territory that gives the possibility of its creation. These are Yellow waters, Dnipropetrovsk region.


    Recently, here, or on the Internet, I read that when Stalin asked Kurchatov: How much will it cost us to make a nuclear bomb. To which he received an honest answer - about the same as winning another one, the same as ending the war.
    So we wish the neighbors ... :-) But it seems to me, it would be easier for them to send their astronaut to the moon!
    So the application of that clown ... purely neighing!
  38. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 8 March 2014 00: 32
    +4
    Wait for Ukraine ..? All the same, I think the younger brothers should be tanned right away! ))) Now here is the result .. wassat
  39. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 8 March 2014 00: 35
    +2
    I understood what nuclear weapons are for the Gaimaidanites, this is the name of their new party, the Opposition Eggs.
  40. voliador
    voliador 8 March 2014 00: 51
    +1
    Yanukovych, stsuka, conquered Ukraine. Why did they seize him so by the balls that he leaked the country to the Nazis?
  41. Bargus
    Bargus 8 March 2014 01: 12
    +1
    The agony of a handful of impostors and nationalists in Ukraine. Obama probably drinks valerian and screams in hysterics (nuclear weapons to you - figs to you, better chew lard and eat up the last horseradish with radish)
  42. anon8573
    anon8573 8 March 2014 01: 19
    +1
    People, attention, the correct answer!
    Make nuclear weapons from scratch Ukraine will not pull. Consequently, the NRL radar can be obtained from the United States in the form of 5-10ct charges for artillery guns, or in the form of freely falling bombs. All this can be used as warheads on any missiles that can pull them. And here it is more fun. Keep nuclear weapons Ukraine will not pull. After all, what moment is coming, the charges are not in stasis, the half-life is going on, and it is necessary to regularly process nuclear explosives in order to remove unnecessary isotopes and add the necessary ones. And in weapons it is about a thousand times (technologically) more complicated than in reactor fuel. There are no capacities, respectively, a return to the USA for processing, and the amount of expenses approaching the NASA budget.
    Based on all this, a simple conclusion is made: all the cries about nuclear weapons for the internal consumer, which would cut epic amounts of money under this noise.
  43. philip
    philip 8 March 2014 02: 15
    +1
    When you read the news, it seems that the world has gone crazy. If we take into account the amount of accumulated nuclear weapons, then this is not encouraging.
  44. Stalker
    Stalker 8 March 2014 04: 08
    0
    Quote: Androsh
    ............
  45. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 8 March 2014 04: 12
    +1
    Present Ukraine is a stub of the Soviet Union. In '94, they signed a renunciation of nuclear weapons in exchange for a guarantee of inviolability of borders. There is no external invasion of Ukraine; is it falling apart? Give the atomic bomb to Järlsch? the psychiatrist has not been for a long time!
  46. smurnoi
    smurnoi 8 March 2014 04: 32
    0
    On top of everything else, there is now a "miracle weapon" ... "Everyone at Hitler's headquarters is not very sick."
  47. internatio
    internatio 8 March 2014 04: 45
    +1
    The article ends with the words - the Ukrainians watched all this. And the Crimeans. Yes, we did. But each has its own capabilities. It is almost impossible to expand them without funds. So it turns out - "every cricket knows his six." Which, of course, does not in the least justify us. We worked. But there is no drop in the river.
  48. Cynic
    Cynic 8 March 2014 09: 26
    0
    If yes, in a word _