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People’s Governor of Donetsk Region Pavel Gubarev accused of separatism

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People’s Governor of Donetsk Region Pavel Gubarev accused of separatism



In Donetsk, where from the beginning of the week the regional administration building several times passed from the opponents of the new government to the supporters and back - today a kind of balance has developed in favor of the oligarch Sergey Taruta from Kiev appointed by him. His opponent, Pavel Gubarev, who is called the "people's governor", was detained by security forces, reportedly in a separatism case.

The conspiratorial apartment where Pavel Gubarev lived in the last days is located in the very center of Donetsk. This is University Street 69. Just in this apartment his detention took place. Immediately after that, employees of the Security Service of Ukraine began to work inside.

Everything that happened was like a well-planned operation. They acted quickly and, apparently, on someone's tip. Several people in civilian clothes with the support of the fighters of one of the Ukrainian special forces broke into the apartment. One of them presented a certificate of an employee of the Ukrainian National Security Service. Nobody explained the reasons for the detention to Pavel Gubarev.

“He was tied up and handcuffed. I did not see, but I heard the sounds of a struggle from the room where Pavel was. Special forces came in and took him outside,” says eyewitness Andrei Lunev.

After Pavel Gubarev was taken away in an unknown direction, a search began in the apartment. Film crews in the apartment now do not miss. Judging by what the detainee’s lawyer, Elena Pryadko, says, both the arrest itself and the subsequent search were conducted in violation of procedural rules.
“The search is conducted, I cannot comment on the order in which. But the lawyer is not there. And what will be fixed there? There are no persons with legal and legal education there,” the lawyer says.

For the first time, the law enforcement agencies reported about the arrest of the people's governor Pavel Gubarev, who was elected at the Donetsk Chamber of Commerce, in the morning, after the security forces cleared the regional administration building. Then this information was not confirmed. In order to refute the rumors, Pavel Gubarev himself went out to the journalists.

"At first they threatened and tried to bribe me personally, threatened members of my family, threatened me with reprisals, automatic weapon brought to the meeting and intimidated. Now the authorities have begun open repression against supporters of our movement, "said the people's governor of the Donetsk region.

People took to the streets in protest against the appointment of oligarch Sergei Taruta from Kiev to head the region.

“Donbass’s opinion is that some oligarchs in Kiev and in Western Ukraine did not share the“ grandmothers ”and money with the oligarchs of our side. And on the shoulders of the fascists they push people with their heads together. They just stupidly divide money. They put all the billionaires who had stolen money from us, at ordinary people ", - considers Vlada Tishchenko.

"People have hopelessness. I believe that when there is no power in the country that could save, support, help out its people and really work for the people, this power does not exist, then what does a person have? He goes to a neighbor and says:" Help, save us, because who else will save us? "- says Valery Shuppach.

Whose order is carried out by the police, it became clear later. The appointed Donetsk head of the Donetsk region, Sergei Taruta, first appeared today before reporters. And not just appeared. At a meeting with the foreign ministers of Sweden and Denmark, he stated that he had initiated an urgent replacement of the head of the regional police board and the head of the regional department of the SBU.

“The police was demoralized. And who gives the spirit? Commander. And the commander could not motivate and lead people,” said Sergei Taruta.

The personnel policy of the new governor appointed from Kiev has already brought its first results. During the clashes, law enforcement officers detained more than 70 people. Now they will be accountable before the law, as stated in the reports, "for the seizure of administrative buildings." By the way, in Kiev such formulations were not applied to participants of street collisions even once.

“The police really don’t let people through. They’re just carrying out explanatory work among people. If they become participants in the rally, this rally is unaccompanied. Administrative responsibility is provided for this. If they take part in the so-called administration storms, this is criminal responsibility.” , - explains Maxim Kirindyasov, Head of the Donetsk State Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

Lawyers for people detained in street clashes have a different opinion. They consider that their clients did not violate the law.

“We have double standards for some reason now. If we look at how Gubarev and his supporters acted, we will not see actions that would be similar to actions on Maidan. People who acted by completely different methods detain them,” says lawyer Pavel Gubareva Elena Pryadko.

People who are enrolled in the people's militia say that they are receiving threats. First of all, it concerns youth. Students under threat of deduction from universities are prohibited from participating in street actions of disobedience and expressing their opinions.

"Look around, you see here only representatives of more or less adults or seniors, or men, or women. And why are there no young people? In high schools they practically do not allow and do not pay attention to freedom of thought. And today I was in the regional department where I was given a brief remark about the fact that the rector of my university will be dissatisfied with seeing his students at a rally against the authorities. Our students of the National University should not go out, ”said rally participant Dmitry Maksimenko.

“I came here at the call of my heart. You understand? The new government does not recognize the people. The Ukrainian mass media are throwing mud at the population of Donbass, there is absolutely distorted, untrue information. By the way, one of our officials even said that it’s impossible to pour such mud “There must be at least some part of objective information; we cannot ignore the demands and aspirations, the desire of half the population of our country,” said Alexander Kurenkov.

The building of the regional council passed from hand to hand three times already. Only on the eve, the security forces first beat off him from the members of the “Donbass resistance”, and then the militia again took the premises by storm. Before that, people collected signatures under a letter asking the Russian authorities to intervene in the situation and protect city residents from the mayhem of Ukrainian nationalists. In order to prevent a new assault, now reinforced police cordons and special equipment are displayed outside the regional administration building.
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  1. INVESTOR
    INVESTOR 7 March 2014 05: 48
    +14
    The City Council of Sevastopol decided to join the city in Russia. Hooray fellow citizens !!!!
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 7 March 2014 06: 41
      +16
      “People have despair. I believe that when there is no power in a country that could save, support, help out its people and really work for the people, this power does not exist, then what does a person have to do? He goes to his neighbor and says:“ Help, save us, because who else will save us? "- says Valery Shurpach. (from the article)


      People in the South-East of Ukraine, before asking for help from Russia, you yourself will follow the example of the Crimea, create a people's militia, and actively resist Bandera. Do not give up! Do not fold your hands, only then help will come from Russia.
      Remember, first of all, you need to save yourself, these are the diplomatic rules of the game in the world, only then help from Russia will come.
      Do not run away from your native places to Russia, for the purpose of personal salvation, stay in Bandera Ukraine and fight for your land, for the right to live on your land, for the right to self-determination and a referendum of the people to decide their own fate and the fate of their homeland, for the right to unite with their people in Russia.
      Until it's not too late. Otherwise, Bandera will come to you personally and will dictate to you how you need to live according to their laws, speak their language.
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 7 March 2014 07: 02
        +5
        Here his wife declared! Ekaterina Gubareva:
        "If Paul cannot speak, I will speak instead of him."
        According to unverified information, Gubarev is located 40 km from Kiev! The person (officer) does not speak specifically about the place
        1. AVV
          AVV 7 March 2014 12: 43
          +3
          Quote: bomg.77
          Here his wife declared! Ekaterina Gubareva:
          "If Paul cannot speak, I will speak instead of him."
          According to unverified information, Gubarev is located 40 km from Kiev! The person (officer) does not speak specifically about the place

          Men from Donbas, in contrast, capture Taruta and exchange him for Gubarev !!! Live with scum, howl like a wolf, accuse Taruta of illegally coming to power with the same methods !!! Not so that the miners will have no fighters or will be on Zapadenskaya St. milk work to pay taxes to them ???
        2. Sandov
          Sandov 7 March 2014 19: 17
          0
          Quote: bomg.77
          Here his wife declared! Ekaterina Gubareva:
          "If Paul cannot speak, I will speak instead of him."
          According to unverified information, Gubarev is located 40 km from Kiev! The person (officer) does not speak specifically about the place

          When the people will understand how ameri and their allies Bandera conducted them all, only then they will rise to the struggle, but there will be blood. Amer s cannibals are eager for the shedding of Slavic blood. But without a fight, there is no victory. To water banderlog in toilets.
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 7 March 2014 07: 50
        +2
        Damn, it's easy to tell you. They ALREADY got up. Already took the RSA. What else to do? And now they’ve also beheaded.
      3. Alez
        Alez 7 March 2014 07: 56
        +4
        What is the difference between scum and normal people, scum with scum and normal people does the scumbag, normal people with normal people and scum behave normally. And in order to defeat the scum, you have to do the scumbag with the scumbag, their methods.
    2. 222222
      222222 7 March 2014 12: 39
      +1
      The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland does not arrest or handcuff anyone, but permits a referendum in Scotland in 2014 to resolve the issue of separation (or non-separation) from the kingdom.
  2. Alexei
    Alexei 7 March 2014 05: 50
    +9
    Strange, but the current Ukrainian authorities themselves how they acted ?! If he is a separatist, then they are terrorists.
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 7 March 2014 07: 24
      +4
      Quote: Alexej
      Strange, but the current Ukrainian authorities themselves how they acted ?! If he is a separatist, then they are terrorists.
      They haven’t written a law. There, a journalist in social networks writes frank fascist statements and no one reacts! Here is a screenshot of her. I hope the moderators do not delete the picture.
      1. Mosen6Ish
        Mosen6Ish 7 March 2014 12: 23
        +2
        That's right - I communicate on Skype with one "Westerner" - a boy of 19 years old
        from his statements:
        - your media - rf, kazakhstan
        - in the east, all traitors - let them fall in Russia
        - I want to go west
        - we don’t need a washed union

        asked what he knows about association with Europe:
        - there will be 2 times more salary
        - there will be a European education, medicine, standards
        - there will be new jobs

        asked what he knew about the customs duties there - the answer was silence - then "no need to agitate me - I want to go west"
        1. 222222
          222222 7 March 2014 12: 52
          +1
          "..no need to agitate me - I want to go to the west" .. to want is not harmful, it is harmful not to want ..

          ... upon arrival to the west, forward to the courses of studying the language of the host country .. Half a year courses at the expense of local authorities .. Then exams .. Two days .. in writing. verbally, conversation .. did not pass (did not score the required amount of points) -departure or flight like plywood over Paris .. Repeated courses already at their own expense .. without passing a test in the language-low-paying job .. on the occasion of "earn a lot." Do not accelerate .. taxes are proportional to the amount earned. earned more, pay more ..
          ... European education - in one country (I won’t write the name of the country) they conducted an exam among teachers on simple arithmetic operations (-many could not divide in a column .. verbally and in writing)
          ..medicine- depending on the type of insurance and its price .. There is work, there is money, there is insurance ..
          .............
  3. operator35
    operator35 7 March 2014 05: 50
    +13
    why YOU brothers did not save the guy !!! khan now to him and to you! it was the steering wheel of this region, and now everyone else is afraid to go against Kiev !!! Oh, how I do not envy him, it is that being taken prisoner by the "Czechs" in the Caucasus! trouble! spouse, mental strength and patience! hold on Pashka, we hope and believe that these creatures will not injure you !!!
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 7 March 2014 06: 19
      +8
      Quote: operator35
      Khan now to him and you!
      Khan will be for us too, if Russia releases such actions. The United States has already announced that it does not recognize the planned referendum in Crimea, and is coordinating its sixes for sanctions against our country. Statements from Europe also cannot help but be alarming, Russia is accused of "reshaping" the post-war map of Europe. Like this! Yugoslavia can be bombed and dismembered, just like Iraq and Libya. You can interfere in the internal affairs of Syria, unleashing a war there, you can sponsor and organize a coup in Ukraine, they can. What else can they "can"? Tomorrow they will look after "democracy" already in Russia, directly from the territory of Ukraine, with the Bandera, Russophobic government ?! Russians are already being terrorized on the territory of Ukraine, and this will continue to grow, the West is not wasting time, and our troops are retreating to their starting lines, and is it planned to bring in troops at all, the question, like the question, is whether our government will be afraid of large-scale sanctions, whether Crimea will accept to Russia after a positive referendum. With Yugoslavia, the matter ended with puffing up cheeks, and with the words that the Serbs had already drawn Russia into the war, now the war is coming closer and closer to our borders.
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 7 March 2014 19: 24
        0
        Quote: Per se.
        The West doesn’t lose time, but our troops are moving back to their starting lines, and are there any plans to deploy troops now?

        If our president refuses such a step, then he and we will be khan.
    2. DMB-78
      DMB-78 7 March 2014 06: 57
      0
      Quote: operator35
      Well, YOU did not save the guy’s brothers !!!

      but how could they save him? he fell under the rink of new power. until she changes, you will not envy him
  4. Name
    Name 7 March 2014 05: 55
    +2
    Well, at least they would change the article (at least for a hooligan! repeat ) .... after all, they themselves however ...
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 7 March 2014 07: 29
      +1
      Yes, what article? In fact, he, speaking against the Kiev fascists, is on the side of the legitimate president. And only proteges of Yanukovych can judge him, and not terrorists seizing power.
      1. DMB-78
        DMB-78 7 March 2014 07: 34
        0
        Quote: alicante11
        And only proteges of Yanukovych can judge him, and not terrorists seizing power.

        so they will judge. but according to their own laws.
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 7 March 2014 07: 48
          +1
          Let them return Yanuk first, and then they will judge him. Now they have no legal right to judge.
          1. DMB-78
            DMB-78 7 March 2014 13: 20
            0
            Quote: alicante11
            . Now they have no legal right to judge.

            yes they spat on all rights. they forgot about the law. act like mattress covers. what is beneficial to them is legitimate, and they don’t give a damn about the rest
  5. Duke
    Duke 7 March 2014 05: 55
    +2
    “I came here at the call of my heart. You understand? The new government does not recognize the people. The Ukrainian mass media are throwing mud at the population of Donbass, there is absolutely distorted, untrue information. By the way, one of our officials even said that it’s impossible to pour such mud “There must be at least some part of objective information; we cannot ignore the demands and aspirations, the desire of half the population of our country,” said Alexander Kurenkov.

    I hope that Russia will give a worthy answer to the Western-Kiev fascists.
  6. Same lech
    Same lech 7 March 2014 06: 00
    +7
    Now we need to organize the protection of the leaders of the people chosen from being captured by the temporary workers, then we need to block the work of the appointed officials by the temporary workers, then we need to calculate the steps of the temporary workers one step further, obviously now they will rely on the violent suppression of people's indignation.

    I believe that the people who will capture the people's deputies, will be the very same MERCEDES FROM PMCs who have arrived in KIEV in large numbers, it is urgent to organize resistance to them.
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 7 March 2014 07: 00
      +4
      The same LEKHA (1)
      I believe that the people who will capture the people's deputies, will be the very same MERCEDES FROM PMCs who have arrived in KIEV in large numbers, it is urgent to organize resistance to them.


      But in the fight against foreign mercenaries there should be active assistance to the people of the South-East of Bandera Ukraine from the Russian special forces.
      Our specialists must fight with hired professionals in order to discourage their desire to meddle on Russian soil.
      1. Sandov
        Sandov 7 March 2014 19: 27
        0
        Quote: vladimirZ
        But in the fight against foreign mercenaries there should be active assistance to the people of the South-East of Bandera Ukraine from the Russian special forces.
        Our specialists must fight with hired professionals in order to discourage their desire to meddle on Russian soil.
    2. schizophrenic
      schizophrenic 7 March 2014 07: 09
      +1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Now we need to organize the protection of leaders chosen by the people from being captured by temporary workers, then we must block

      It will not help now; temporary workers will enjoy the support of the Security Service of Ukraine and the Ministry of Internal Affairs will have to go underground or strengthen the movement.
    3. DMB-78
      DMB-78 7 March 2014 07: 25
      +1
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Now we need to organize the protection of the leaders of the people chosen from being captured by the temporary workers, then we need to block the work of the appointed officials by the temporary workers, then we need to calculate the steps of the temporary workers one step further, obviously now they will rely on the violent suppression of people's indignation.

      and strikes. all on strike. then the guy has a chance
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 7 March 2014 07: 52
        0
        Money is needed to strike. How long will you protest if the children sit hungry?
        1. DMB-78
          DMB-78 7 March 2014 13: 22
          0
          Quote: alicante11
          Money is needed to strike. How long will you protest if the children sit hungry?

          Maidan has been on strike for three months. here we need the money that the GDP promised to Yanyk. just give them to the strikers
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 10 March 2014 04: 23
            0
            Well, what am I talking about? Without Russia, they cannot do anything.
      2. schizophrenic
        schizophrenic 7 March 2014 13: 19
        0
        Quote: DMB-78
        strikes. all on strike

        Zbostovki disperse the simplest. This is the last and decisive battle forward, but they won’t go for it.
  7. Papania
    Papania 7 March 2014 06: 02
    +3
    Zapadentsev x .. point. I hope in the Donbass there are forces that can fight back.
  8. Sergg
    Sergg 7 March 2014 06: 11
    +3
    In Donetsk, where from the beginning of the week the building of the regional administration several times passed from opponents of the new government to supporters and vice versa


    The new Pavlov’s House, which may well be compared to Stalingrad’s, only Pavel is here - Pavel Gubarev !!!

    When it comes to our brain that a war has been declared and that this war is already underway, let alone private, but troops, be entered into the territory of OUR DONBAS. But we can not resist the invaders only through diplomatic methods. If your families beat, you will also negotiate, or still fight back.
  9. Sergg
    Sergg 7 March 2014 06: 15
    +3
    We don’t want war, but it’s already going on, how much more blood must be shed for us to understand this, people, people cannot be cowardly, beat cowardly, beat alone, as has been happening with Russians lately.
    The only exception is Sevastopol and Crimea, unless, of course, Putin has the courage to stand to the end.

    Sevastopol Glory! - One city raises the whole of Russia to fight against international fascism.
    1. both s69
      both s69 7 March 2014 06: 47
      +2
      Quote: Sergg
      people, people cannot be cowardly, cowardly beat, beat alone, as has been happening with Russians lately.

      Exactly! Is it really incomprehensible to the entire Russian-speaking population that indecision now for Russians in Ukraine is death! Without any allegories! Intelligence agencies, alpha! I appeal to you: after all, you are normal people, with "not brainwashed", whether it is not clear to you, WHO is using your power resource to suppress anti-Russian sentiments. Would you like to be in the place of the Golden Eagle? You know very well WHAT the so-called "Euroassociation". And yet you are "following orders." The Nazis, too, "followed the order." For WHAT in this case your grandfathers fought? For their grandchildren to "carry out the order" of the descendants of the Banderaites they had not killed!?! Come to your senses! What are you doing? A fascist putsch took place in Ukraine, and you are "carrying out the order." You won't be able to bury your head in the sand, officers. You are shaming the honor of the army with your current actions. Yes, yes, just like that, no less ... The court of history is impartial and will put everything in its place. Emotionally? And HOW can you be indifferent to the fate of the Russians? In general, I'm out. We urgently need to organize thousands of protest demonstrations in Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk and all over the south of Ukraine! Demand from the authorities the release of Pavel Gubarev without any preconditions! Only solidarity and dedication can give the Russian people in Ukraine a chance to survive in this Bandera tent! Russian people in Ukraine - unite! angry hi
      1. operator35
        operator35 7 March 2014 06: 51
        +1
        Quote: both-with 69
        Quote: Sergg
        people, people cannot be cowardly, cowardly beat, beat alone, as has been happening with Russians lately.

        Exactly! Is it really incomprehensible to the entire Russian-speaking population that indecision now for Russians in Ukraine is death! Without any allegories! Intelligence agencies, alpha! I appeal to you: after all, you are normal people, with "not brainwashed", is it not clear to you, WHO is using your power resource to suppress anti-Russian sentiments. Would you like to be in the place of the Golden Eagle? You know very well what the so-called "Euroassociation". And yet, you are "following orders." The Nazis, too, "followed the order." For WHAT in this case your grandfathers fought? For their grandchildren to "carry out the order" of the descendants of the Banderaites they had not killed!?! Come to your senses! What are you doing? A fascist putsch took place in Ukraine, and you are "carrying out the order." You won't be able to bury your head in the sand, officers. By your current actions, you are shaming the honor of the army. Yes, yes, just like that, no less ... The court of history is impartial and will put everything in its place. Emotionally? And HOW can you be indifferent to the fate of the Russians? In general, I am out. We urgently need to organize thousands of protest demonstrations in Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk and all over the south of Ukraine! Demand from the authorities the release of Pavel Gubarev without any preconditions! Only solidarity and dedication can give a chance to Russian people in Ukraine to survive in this Bandera tent! Russian people in Ukraine - unite! angry hi

        and I’ll answer you this way-personally, I’m not at all sure that the special forces of the SBU made the arrest ... investigators yes, but as for the special forces, there’s a big question
        1. both s69
          both s69 7 March 2014 07: 44
          +1
          Quote: operator35
          I'm not sure at all that the special forces of the SBU made the arrest ...

          You all already know about the treacherous detention of my husband by special forces of the SBU
          Here is the answer to your doubts ... sad
  10. Garrin
    Garrin 7 March 2014 06: 27
    +2

    I don’t know whether it was or not, but such a mood.
  11. ilya_82
    ilya_82 7 March 2014 06: 28
    +5
    it’s difficult to support when the majority of people in the East are sitting and waiting for Russia to come and save everyone. When the only leader was able to betray and arrest. There is only one conclusion - these politicians are prostitutes with the passivity of the people, when our troops go east, bargain with Kiev and turn upside down so that they make us an aggressor. Most likely we will not defend the east.
    1. KOH
      KOH 7 March 2014 07: 04
      +1
      The people still do not fully understand that at this time their fate is being decided, they think this hour will quietly resolve everything, but one "fine day" they will wake up and see that they are living on the ruins of a once worthy life, and there is poverty and hopelessness ahead ... but on the other hand, in a united Europe ... (I specially wrote the united Europe with a small letter, because of "the greatest respect" for it ...
    2. alicante11
      alicante11 7 March 2014 07: 32
      +1
      Well, THEY do not sit. Without money, without organizers, the Regional State Administration has already been seized twice. What more do you need? Was the leader arrested? Well, it happens, after all, this is a special operation, and they have no special forces after all. That would give him "polite people" to guard, at least from golden eagles and journalists everywhere with him. But he himself could not do it. It was necessary to help.
      1. KOH
        KOH 7 March 2014 08: 02
        +1
        We made it clear to them that we would help if large-scale unrest against the Banderlog began, and the unrest slowly turns into unrest in the basin, if this hour to bring in troops this is aggression against the "sovereign state", the arrest of Pavel is a SIGN !!! !!
        1. alicante11
          alicante11 10 March 2014 04: 25
          0
          What other widespread unrest do you need? Civil War?
  12. sawmill
    sawmill 7 March 2014 06: 29
    +4
    We are talking a lot of things, tearing vests, waving sabers.
    And this guy did, one on one, for us for Russia.
    One can only imagine what is being done to him.

    What we shall do?
    Shall we die?
    Hand over the boy?
    1. operator35
      operator35 7 March 2014 06: 35
      +2
      Quote: sawmill
      We are talking a lot of things, tearing vests, waving sabers.
      And this guy did, one on one, for us for Russia.
      One can only imagine what is being done to him.

      What we shall do?
      Shall we die?
      Hand over the boy?

      Konstantin-wrote beautifully ..
      concrete proposals-how to help-here, mostly men are smart and held-if there is a sensible proposal-I'm sure-we will organize!
      I personally have exactly 0 ideas how to help a guy right now !! request
      1. DMB-78
        DMB-78 7 March 2014 07: 02
        +1
        Quote: operator35
        I personally have exactly 0 ideas how to help a guy right now !!

        here not one lawyer will help
        1. operator35
          operator35 7 March 2014 07: 04
          +3
          Quote: DMB-78
          Quote: operator35
          I personally have exactly 0 ideas how to help a guy right now !!

          here not one lawyer will help

          only "penetration group" ...
          remember as in the films: "we are seals (read polite military) -we will get you out of here")))
          1. DMB-78
            DMB-78 7 March 2014 07: 13
            +2
            Quote: operator35
            only "penetration group" ...
            remember as in the films: "we are seals (read polite military) -we will get you out of here")))

            Yes, that's just a miracle and hope)
            1. operator35
              operator35 7 March 2014 07: 15
              +2
              Quote: DMB-78
              Quote: operator35
              only "penetration group" ...
              remember as in the films: "we are seals (read polite military) -we will get you out of here")))

              Yes, that's just a miracle and hope)

              not a miracle, but a correctly planned and successfully carried out special operation))) comrade. Minister of Defense - it’s time to test the MTR in the case))) everything should pass tip-top-sure)))
              1. DMB-78
                DMB-78 7 March 2014 07: 19
                +1
                Quote: operator35
                not a miracle, but a correctly planned and successfully carried out special operation))) comrade. Minister of Defense - it’s time to test the MTR in the case))) everything should pass tip-top-sure)))

                yes you are quieter, shouted. the enemy does not sleep))
                1. operator35
                  operator35 7 March 2014 07: 21
                  +1
                  oh yes yes !!! hope for a miracle and believe in the case laughing
                  1. DMB-78
                    DMB-78 7 March 2014 07: 27
                    +1
                    Quote: operator35
                    oh yes yes !!! miracle hopes

                    but miracles can be miners with shovels
                    1. operator35
                      operator35 7 March 2014 07: 29
                      +1
                      easy, special forces generally tend to wear someone else's uniform)))
                      1. DMB-78
                        DMB-78 7 March 2014 07: 36
                        +1
                        Quote: operator35
                        easy, special forces generally tend to wear someone else's uniform

                        polite miners?)
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 7 March 2014 07: 35
        +1
        In general, the only thing we can do is make the situation public, so that we couldn’t soak it in the dungeons or turn it off the road.
        And we need to demand from the GDP to keep its promises, because "ours are being beaten."
  13. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 7 March 2014 06: 32
    +1
    Ukraine is the kingdom of raiders! Now local oligarchs are re-dividing the country!
  14. Alexxeg73
    Alexxeg73 7 March 2014 06: 37
    +6
    What can I say? Sorry for the boy, he will perish. No fair trial should be expected. He is dangerous at large to the authorities. But what about the residents of Donetsk? I saw a "protest" against Paul's detention. Yes, there on the strength of several dozen people shoved with cops! And a hundred more were filmed on video, but stood on the sidelines. Where are the "thousands" of protesters? Where is the instinct for self-preservation ?? And these shouts "The police are with the people" in general as a mockery. And these "Russia!" and "Putin help!" ... But no one will help you while you are sitting on the sofas! A rolling stone gathers no moss!
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 7 March 2014 07: 38
      -2
      The spark went down to earth. Trampled. They have already risen, but to go against the state machine is a disastrous thing. Banderlog behind the USA and the EU stood. So they have one hope for GDP. If he answers for his show-offs that he threw in an interview, then the east will be Russian, and if not, then Bandera will crush them completely.
    2. chisya
      chisya 7 March 2014 08: 30
      0
      There were 200 people there, at least that's how it was transferred here. This is despite the fact that the population of the region is over 4 million. There are big doubts in general about the very support of the people. Somehow on the first channel everything is shown strongly positively. There he has support from the strength of a couple of thousand, and then on a clear sunny day. As I understand it, a couple of thousand gathered there and said that he is our governor, but a couple of thousand in Sevastopol is one thing. The city is really Russian. And this is the homeland of "Donetsk".

      If we take into account how our Kharkov resources use the admin resource, they oust them to rallies, and I’ve been uncle of 69 years from the region and sent to a rally for Yanukovych a couple of months ago, under the threat of dismissal. And so in the eastern regions was everywhere who did not ask. In general, the time now is such that the people are afraid to lose what little they have. I think in Donetsk even worse than ours.

      And when you consider that now the governor is from the oligarchs, I think the people will not especially rise. There is either a complete rebellion or everyone is sitting silently. The second is more likely. The people here are not used to going against the government, no matter what it is. Here is the working class, which has something to do besides the rallies. There is still ...

      Probably the East is happy with everything, but those few hundreds in different cities will not do the weather.
  15. ya.seliwerstov2013
    ya.seliwerstov2013 7 March 2014 06: 44
    +1
    They share it clearly. But here in the country you really need to invest money. Who will take such a burden of responsibility. ???
  16. INVESTOR
    INVESTOR 7 March 2014 06: 45
    +1
    The process is already running. He cannot be stopped. The people will not leave like that.
    1. both s69
      both s69 7 March 2014 07: 10
      +1
      Quote: INVESTOR
      The people will not leave like that.

      Where are the people? They could not recapture their leader ... the people, too, to me. negative
      1. DMB-78
        DMB-78 7 March 2014 07: 21
        0
        Quote: both-with 69
        Where are the people? They could not recapture their leader ... the people, too, to me.

        and where do you find people at night? gathered, but it's too late, they took me to Kiev ...
  17. Kodar 75
    Kodar 75 7 March 2014 06: 57
    +1
    The people of Donbass and other eastern regions should certainly follow the example of Crimea. But the question is whether they have enough strength, will and determination to do so. Sitting idly by, waiting for help from Russia, is unacceptable. So get up Donbass and rip Bandera scum.
  18. sawmill
    sawmill 7 March 2014 06: 58
    +3
    PEOPLE'S MILITARY DONBASS (Pavel Gubarev)


    Friends and Companions!

    Catherine - the wife of Pavel Gubarev, is speaking to you! You all already know about the treacherous detention of my husband by the special forces of the SBU, which, according to preliminary information, has already been taken for interrogation to Kiev captured by the fascist junta.
    If they think in their Kiev home that by isolating my husband from the inhabitants of Donbass, they thereby deprived people of the opportunity to follow their leader, their national governor - they are very mistaken! Before the arrest, Paul managed to tell me to hold on and that the victory will be ours! I have always believed in my husband, the father of our children, this honest and strong man. Therefore, I am ready to take upon himself his burden of responsibility to the people, which he took upon himself in order to make the authorities hear our demands. I am ready to temporarily become the leader of our resistance until Pavel is released, and he will return to our battle formation!

    Do not look at me as a woman. I am the mother of three of our children with Paul. But the main thing is that I am Russian! And Russian women in difficult times were always worthy of their husbands.

    I inform you that I am now in Russia with my children. We are safe. Our friends hospitably welcomed us and provided us with everything we needed. I always felt that Russian people were ready to help each other in difficult times. Now, here on all Russian TV channels, the situation with the treacherous arrest of the people's governor of the Donetsk region, Pavel Gubarev, is news No. 1. Yesterday, on all TV channels, they showed how public rallies were held in numerous Russian cities in support of Russian-speaking people in Ukraine and the condemnation of the new fascist authorities in Kiev.

    I can assure everyone - the people of Russia are for you! The people of Russia are with us!

    Therefore, as a temporary public leader of the Donbass People’s Militia, I urge you to stick together in a difficult moment for us, not to lose heart and believe in those words that Pavel managed to say to me right before the arrest: “THE VICTORY WILL BE AFTER US!”

    Expect a further plan for future actions of the Donbass People’s Militia from us in the near future.



    From the site of Pavel Gubarev.
    1. operator35
      operator35 7 March 2014 07: 13
      +2
      well done girl, and she herself does not fall in spirit and people still raise! RESPECT hi
    2. both s69
      both s69 7 March 2014 07: 58
      +1
      Quote: sawmill
      PEOPLE'S MILITARY DONBASS (Pavel Gubarev)


      Friends and Companions!

      Catherine - the wife of Pavel Gubarev, is speaking to you! You all already know about the treacherous detention of my husband by the special forces of the SBU, which, according to preliminary information, has already been taken for interrogation to Kiev captured by the fascist junta.
      If they think in their Kiev home that by isolating my husband from the inhabitants of Donbass, they thereby deprived people of the opportunity to follow their leader, their national governor - they are very mistaken! Before the arrest, Paul managed to tell me to hold on and that the victory will be ours! I have always believed in my husband, the father of our children, this honest and strong man. Therefore, I am ready to take upon himself his burden of responsibility to the people, which he took upon himself in order to make the authorities hear our demands. I am ready to temporarily become the leader of our resistance until Pavel is released, and he will return to our battle formation!

      Do not look at me as a woman. I am the mother of three of our children with Paul. But the main thing is that I am Russian! And Russian women in difficult times were always worthy of their husbands.

      I inform you that I am now in Russia with my children. We are safe. Our friends hospitably welcomed us and provided us with everything we needed. I always felt that Russian people were ready to help each other in difficult times. Now, here on all Russian TV channels, the situation with the treacherous arrest of the people's governor of the Donetsk region, Pavel Gubarev, is news No. 1. Yesterday, on all TV channels, they showed how public rallies were held in numerous Russian cities in support of Russian-speaking people in Ukraine and the condemnation of the new fascist authorities in Kiev.

      I can assure everyone - the people of Russia are for you! The people of Russia are with us!

      Therefore, as a temporary public leader of the Donbass People’s Militia, I urge you to stick together in a difficult moment for us, not to lose heart and believe in those words that Pavel managed to say to me right before the arrest: “THE VICTORY WILL BE AFTER US!”

      Expect a further plan for future actions of the Donbass People’s Militia from us in the near future.



      From the site of Pavel Gubarev.

      It seems that "ours" merge the South and East of Ukraine with others, not quite, but also, "ours." With which I "congratulate" all the participants in this forum. We lived, so to speak ...
      I will be VERY glad to be mistaken. sad recourse
  19. schizophrenic
    schizophrenic 7 March 2014 07: 02
    +3
    The seizure of administrations will not help now; only the seizure of electric gas substations will help, possibly with the failure, and you need to immediately wholesale and if there are no people it’s better not to climb am
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 7 March 2014 07: 55
      +1
      By the way, yes, it is necessary to seize the GTS. And then the EU will quickly deflate. And run into banderlogov. But will they have enough strength against amers?
  20. DMB-78
    DMB-78 7 March 2014 07: 04
    0
    double standarts
  21. DMB-78
    DMB-78 7 March 2014 07: 05
    0
    We, CyberBerkut, report that today the political traitors who seized power in Kiev as a result of the neo-fascist coup have gone too far in their betrayal. We became aware that the new regime, not trusting its people and ignoring its free will, is doing everything to ensure that our country is occupied by NATO forces, private US military companies and becomes a platform for the deployment of an American missile defense system. Apparently, we were not heard, but we were ready for this. Yatsenyuk and Tymoshenko, how did you like the recording of the telephone conversation between the Estonian Foreign Minister and Catherine Ashton? Get ready and not for such surprises!
    Given the sharp aggravation of the socio-political situation in Ukraine, gross violations of the Constitution and laws of the country, inalienable rights and freedoms of citizens, including the right to life, freedom of thought and speech, the right to speak one’s native language, we, CyberBerkut, inform that we have stopped countdown and move on to action.
    You, Yatsenyuk, Klitschko, Tyagnibok and conditionally released Tymoshenko, missed your chance, and there will be no mercy for you. You had the opportunity to save yourself and prevent the development of the tragedy in Ukraine, but you went further and wanted to hide from your people behind the backs of NATO soldiers and for this you are ready to continue to trade our country. We “CyberBerkut” will not allow you to do this. We will help Ukraine maintain independence from the military aggression of the West, which is ready to defend the neo-fascist government.

    We have already blocked the work of sites: full version https://www.cyberguerrilla.org/blog/?p=17585
  22. both s69
    both s69 7 March 2014 07: 08
    +1
    What all the same we are Russian people disunited! We only eat water, but we can smoke all kinds of rubbish. And how can you help your own person so everyone is on his own ... It's a shame for himself, by God, men. In short, no words. Here in the Far East, almost online, you sit on VO, follow what is happening in Ukraine, and here they say that some pathetic hundred people tried to "push with the police", and another hundred filmed the whole thing. .. His own director, edryon-loaf. Well, and ... then taste the fruits of Western democracy with your mouth full, if you so desire. You will be Ukrainian Albanians. hi
  23. Dovmont
    Dovmont 7 March 2014 07: 14
    -3
    It is not sad to admit, but Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, and the whole south of Ukraine, except the Crimea, pissed and crap. Putin, too, seemed intimidated by the hunchbacks of the Bilderberg Club! Although, if I’m wrong, I’ll be very happy !!!
    1. both s69
      both s69 7 March 2014 07: 51
      0
      Quote: Dovmont
      It’s not sad to admit, but Donetsk, Lugansk, Kharkov, and the whole south of Ukraine, except Crimea, are pissed and crap. Putin, too, seemed intimidated by the hunchbacks of the Bilderberg Club! Although, if I’m wrong, I’ll be very happy !!!

      If this is true, then this is a complete out! Such a setup of Russian people has not been in the recent history of the USSR and Russia. recourse
  24. Alex
    Alex 7 March 2014 07: 34
    +1
    Alas, sadly, but the moment seems to have been missed. Now all the law enforcement agencies will be involved in the "establishment of constitutional order" in the southeast, and assistants will arrive in time. And you can be sure that the Kiev impostors will not chew snot like Yanukovych. there is nothing. There is no militant organization like the "right sector" at all. It is too naive to hope for pensioners with placards. And Russia in such a situation is unlikely to help.
  25. kelevra
    kelevra 7 March 2014 14: 50
    0
    Here are those who blame, let them put themselves first! They gave an example and they did all kinds of crap!
  26. MiruMir
    MiruMir 10 March 2014 22: 41
    0
    Quote: both-with 69
    If this is true, then this is a complete out! Such a setup of Russian people has not been in the recent history of the USSR and Russia. recourse

    Was it not this self-proclaimed "governor of Donbass" (in the bottom row - third from the right) set up the Russian people?


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    And what kind of badge on the fence and on the sleeve, do you still remember or explain?