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Maidan is very NATO

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Maidan is very NATOWe still have time to marvel at the new laws and decrees of the current Ukrainian government. On that they and new to publicly declare themselves any absurdities, the main thing - to be remembered. What is the attempt to ban in the "Square" of the Russian language, which is spoken by half of the population of the country. And this is characteristic: the majority of directives now being adopted directly or indirectly concern Russia, which is seen from Kiev as a dark and hostile force for “Nenko of Ukraine”. Already, names similar in sound to the Russians should not be among Ukrainian children. For some reason, the ban was made in the first place by Masha, that is, Mary, who in the open spaces from Donetsk to Lviv can be counted hundreds of thousands.


All this reminds childish horror stories about babayku. Children seem to know that there is no babak, but they actively play along and are desperately afraid. So any movement on the part of Russia is perceived by the new Ukrainian government as a threat. Military training? Well, this klyatye Muscovites will invade the "Square", will pass through it with fire and sword. Naturally, the new government will be swept away, the psychology of the Maidan suggests so. They have thrown off their power by force, not giving a damn about legality, - that’s why they are afraid of a “mirror response”. The Russian president said to the whole world: there will be no troops. But Maidan, inclined to default on his own obligations, does not believe others either, believing it is obvious that in politics, as in a provincial flea market: do not be fooled - you will not live. And feverishly seeking protection in case they are punished, apparently feeling inwardly the justice of such a punishment.

Ukraine is difficult to defend. Firstly, the army as such is no longer in the country - it was destroyed. And what is the combat readiness, when a couple of hundreds of nationalists with clubs can block a military unit? Secondly, there are practically no volunteers to get under the gun - the announced general mobilization gathered a percentage of the draft contingent in the military offices of 1,5. Third, the overwhelming and sensible part of the country's population simply does not believe in the likelihood of Ukraine’s war with Russia, with the exception of the western regions, which, it seems, did not come out of their Bandera underground after the end of the forties.

It remains for Ukraine to seek an external defender. Belarus - as an ally of Russia - does not fit; Poland is historically inclined to seize Ukrainian lands rather than defend. In general, there is no nearby worthy "zakhistnika." But there is NATO, under whose wing all offended and oppressed by Russia are taking refuge. Here in the North Atlantic Alliance Ukraine and requested. Or rather, not the whole country, but representatives of the new government in the person of the deputies of the Verkhovna Rada from the Batkivshchyna party, whose activists only recently so boldly threw unarmed militiamen with Molotov cocktails on the Maidan. They introduced a bill - in fact, on the country's accession to NATO.

The argument is the same - you need to protect yourself from the grandmother. Moreover, the alliance itself is frightened by the fact that the Russian-Ukrainian situation threatens with conflict with disastrous consequences for the entire region. They say that not only they will get one, unless urgent measures are taken. Under urgent measures, Ukraine, according to the assurances of the new government, implies the deployment of NATO military units on its territory. Well, he promises to help the placement of the European missile defense systems in close proximity to the borders of Russia.

With its actions, the new government in Ukraine now resembles a damsel of easy virtue who flirts with a foreign soldier in the hope that he will pay the money and protect him if anything happens. Forgetting at the same time that the soldier will not be expelled later, he will prefer to pay off on a far foreign side with a bullet rather than a coin.

However, the question of Ukraine’s accession to NATO, which, according to some Ukrainian politicians, guarantees its complete security and integrity, is very controversial and certainly protracted in time. And here the opposite effect is likely - flirting with the alliance will only push the southeast regions to secede. In this case, the civil war in Ukraine is almost inevitable, and even then the Russian army will not remain indifferent - Vladimir Putin has clearly defined our country's position on the protection of compatriots.

Another caveat: Ukraine doesn’t really need the alliance itself. At least, when in the 2010 year, President Yanukovych abolished the commission for preparing to join the bloc, NATO representatives said they were not upset. Calling such a decision "internal matter" of the country. And now the Americans are well aware that any attempts to deploy missile defense systems on the territory of Ukraine will lead to "asymmetric" measures on the part of Russia. As it was, for example, in the situation with Poland, when the likelihood of the emergence of a European missile defense system there led to a statement about the deployment of Iskander Russian missile systems on the territory of the Kaliningrad region. The Polish project then hastily turned down. As they say, draw conclusions.
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  1. a52333
    a52333 7 March 2014 21: 05
    +25
    there are practically no people willing to become under arms - the announced general mobilization collected in the military commissariats 1,5 percent of the draft contingent.

    but our patriotism goes wild! like Putin’s rating. Benders really got it, but let them not rely on the states, not for that the states in them looted enemas in order to fight by themselves.
    1. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 7 March 2014 21: 14
      -10%
      Quote: a52333
      there are practically no people willing to become under arms - the announced general mobilization collected in the military commissariats 1,5 percent of the draft contingent.

      but our patriotism goes wild! like Putin’s rating. Benders really got it, but let them not rely on the states, not for that the states in them looted enemas in order to fight by themselves.

      Yes, but there are PMCs ... what
      1. I do not care
        I do not care 7 March 2014 21: 27
        +6
        explain your thought please
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 8 March 2014 02: 37
          +5
          Quote: me by
          explain your thought please

          Let me explain that the West can use PMCs as a counterweight to "polite people", and in extreme cases, shift all responsibility for hiring to Kiev, I'm even sure that a duty "scapegoat" has already been prepared among the directors of these PMCs.

          Py.Sy. - I see that for some the minus one works faster than their co-operatives, or they simply envy that Samkh does not have the ability to analyze and anticipate possible options. lol
      2. sichevik
        sichevik 7 March 2014 21: 28
        +15
        And in Georgia in 2008 PMCs were very different? I think they have little hope. Maybe I'm wrong ...
        1. kelevra
          kelevra 7 March 2014 22: 11
          +23
          Right! I ran into foreign PMCs in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, even before the war, and then during. When we captured one of them, although the task was only to destroy, he told us that he was from Canada, has dual citizenship, the second So he said that the US Army is in such a serious crisis that they have nothing to pay with, and assignments are suicidal, so they are like real mercenaries and they did it when they were told to go to Russia. And when they began to click like chickens, began to run faster than Georgians. In general, no one wanted to die for a pittance and so far from home. Now there is a tendency that PMCs work more for a "rich uncle", like the Abramovichs. Those, they bring down their foreign partners if something goes wrong, they intimidate, They even arrange coups. In Africa, the power changes almost every day. Africans cannot use their resources, they simply do not know how. That's why uncles come from the mainland, and when the locals open their mouths, hired PMCs clean everything up.
          1. lukke
            lukke 7 March 2014 23: 27
            +9
            Don’t you make any monsters from PMCs. The specifics of their normal work is actually out of politics. In Russia, we already have players in this market - one of the functions is escorting ships where there is a danger of pirate hijackings, the other is protecting objects in Iraq, etc.
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      3. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 7 March 2014 21: 37
        +28
        The problem with any mercenary is that in order to get the money he needs to survive.

        By the way, I believe that they do not need to be killed, and the brothers are captured alive. And after sending to the resorts various. For example, there are excellent resorts in Kolyma or Norilsk that will help them improve their health. Travel vouchers from 4 to 8 years bully
        1. katastrofa
          katastrofa 7 March 2014 21: 49
          +16
          from 14 to 18 at least))) 4 they will stand on one leg (((
          1. aksakal
            aksakal 7 March 2014 23: 19
            +9
            Quote: katastrofa
            from 14 to 18 at least))) 4 they will stand on one leg (((

            Quote: katastrofa
            For example, there are excellent resorts in Kolyma or Norilsk
            - I’m staggering that you in Norilsk are well put on the path of correction laughing The Japanese were sent to Kazakhstan to us - I assure you that Japan is not even a foot to Eurasia! They explained Japanese prisoners of war in Kazakhstan well — they lucidly handed them over to them, so they informed them ... So you can also send these to us - then not a single PMC will go here for any money.
            1. katastrofa
              katastrofa 7 March 2014 23: 43
              +5
              we have places where white bears in valenki walk)))) and in the latrine with a blowtorch, otherwise then you will have to hit the heel !!! I think they won't like it there either
              1. Ptah
                Ptah 8 March 2014 01: 34
                +1
                On the contrary, I should like it ... These are the previously unknown oscillations and useful, with a lack of physical in the modern world. load skills.

                I break it off with my hand and kick it back ... laughing
        2. a52333
          a52333 7 March 2014 22: 56
          +4
          8 days, 7 nights beyond the Arctic Circle? laughing
        3. kripto
          kripto 8 March 2014 06: 43
          +3
          Do not fucking shit Siberia with all sorts of shit, the most effective way to smear your forehead with green, so that the infection does not bring.
      4. mpa945
        mpa945 7 March 2014 21: 49
        +7
        This is to protect Naftogaz gas transmission system transferred to mattresses
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 7 March 2014 22: 04
          +5
          But I’m thinking - will Julia from the American NaftaGaz be able to dig this same gas?
          1. DMB-78
            DMB-78 7 March 2014 22: 42
            +4
            Quote: Vasyan1971
            But I’m thinking - Julia from the American NaftaGas can

            They say they want to put in a sewer through Ukraine. but there are concerns laughing
            1. Ptah
              Ptah 8 March 2014 01: 37
              0
              Methane will be obtained from dermostoks, mixed with smelly butane and planted in europium ...
          2. zzz
            zzz 7 March 2014 22: 59
            +12
            Quote: Vasyan1971
            But I’m thinking - will Julia from the American NaftaGaz be able to dig this same gas?
        2. Vadim12
          Vadim12 7 March 2014 22: 22
          +2
          And who are the mattresses?)
          1. VNM
            VNM 7 March 2014 22: 41
            +5
            Who has the flag striped like a mattress - usa
          2. DMB-78
            DMB-78 7 March 2014 22: 43
            +3
            Quote: Vadim12
            And who are the mattresses?)

            USA
            1. Ptah
              Ptah 8 March 2014 01: 29
              +1
              And also the "pronounced representatives" of Greece, Cuba, Liberia, Malaysia, Uruguay, Uganda ...
              But "cooler" than all Zimbabwe and Mauritius. They have an elegant, festive mattress. yes laughing
          3. Shooter308ful
            Shooter308ful 7 March 2014 23: 41
            +1
            These are the ones that are covered with mattresses when they die.
      5. DMB-78
        DMB-78 7 March 2014 22: 40
        +1
        Quote: And Us Rat
        Yes, but there are PMCs ...

        and they need to pay. and not enough. and Russia will not give a loan for them laughing
      6. Shooter308ful
        Shooter308ful 7 March 2014 23: 38
        +3
        At best, PMC employees can guard objects of varying degrees of importance. At the smell of "fried", the representatives of PMCs will not hold out for long, because they "work" for money. Look carefully at their faces - these are not the faces of warriors, but of merchants. I am not saying that this is bad. You just need to know their true value. This is not entirely true of the small Russian PMCs. Russians in PMCs are, first of all, soldiers, and secondly, commerce.
      7. 77bob1973
        77bob1973 8 March 2014 00: 59
        +1
        You need a lot of money, and as soon as it smells of fried, "grease your heels."
    2. I do not care
      I do not care 7 March 2014 21: 24
      +13
      With its actions, the new government in Ukraine now resembles a damsel of easy virtue who flirts with a foreign soldier in the hope that he will pay the money and protect him if anything happens. Forgetting at the same time that the soldier will not be expelled later, he will prefer to pay off on a far foreign side with a bullet rather than a coin.






      Unfortunately: prostitutional authorities do not always have money spreading their legs: but always their own people
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 7 March 2014 22: 14
        +6
        The argument is the same - you need to protect yourself from the woman.

        I have said more than once. If the army understood itself as Ukrainians, it would demolish everyone. Therefore, thank God, they are silent (gut). And the Russian inside, it would surely have demolished everyone.
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    4. siberalt
      siberalt 7 March 2014 21: 47
      +11
      And where is Bender? Normal city Kotovsk in PMR. laughing
      Please do not confuse with Bandera, I beg you.
    5. SHILO
      SHILO 7 March 2014 22: 09
      +18
      Ukrainian children should not have names similar in sounding to Russian.

      News from the loony bin ?! wassat Not! From Ukraine! fellow
      1. platitsyn70
        platitsyn70 7 March 2014 22: 31
        +2
        In general, there is no worthy “predator” nearby. But there is NATO, under whose wing all those offended and oppressed by Russia are hiding

        That's who wants to NATO they need to collect and send to Guantanamo. There are enough cameras for everyone.
    6. shevron
      shevron 7 March 2014 22: 50
      -16%
      Boys do not have to fight. Who needs corpses. Let's be peaceful ... Not everyone in Ukraine is radical. Frankly - on ... r you are needed here. On Monday I went to work with a military man in my pocket. Suddenly mobilization ....
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 7 March 2014 22: 52
        +8
        Quote: shevron
        Boys don't have to fight

        Did you say this to banderlogs? or-I have a warrior-I'm for Svidomo?
        I didn’t want to, but changed my mind ... request hold the sleepers
        1. shevron
          shevron 7 March 2014 23: 29
          -9
          You cannot solve the problem of troop entry. You believe that there will be Russians in Ukraine, there will be peace and order. There will be war, and partisan war will be dishonest. In the first place, civilians will suffer both in Russia and in Ukraine. There will be no rest and peace. There will be executions of terrorist attacks and robbery and Russian patrols who will not only spit but also shoot in the back. Bendera fought until 1952 for reference
          1. Aleks tv
            Aleks tv 7 March 2014 23: 36
            +8
            Quote: shevron
            Do you believe that there will be Russians in Ukraine there will be peace and order.

            Anatoly, that we no longer believe that you Ukrainians will stop chewing snot and finally say: What do you need?
            And do at least something yourself.

            Only exclamations and grievances ... Guys you ali how?
            We have already come to the conclusion that Natsik came to power and ... are whining here on sites.
            Understand yourself? Without us ? FOR GOD'S SAKE !!!
            Forward. I sincerely wish you GOOD LUCK.
            It’s just that it’s not yet visible. And that is a fact.

            It is not personally to you, it is so - just FOR MEN.
            No offense.
          2. andrei332809
            andrei332809 7 March 2014 23: 39
            +2
            Quote: shevron
            Do you believe that there will be Russians in Ukraine there will be peace and order.

            Yes
            1. pensioner
              pensioner 7 March 2014 23: 46
              +3
              Guys !! If you're still here - maybe a little? AND? Breaking the regime today. So ... Winz ...
              1. studentmati
                studentmati 7 March 2014 23: 49
                +2
                Quote: retired
                Guys !! If you're still here - maybe a little? AND? Breaking the regime today. So ... Winz ...


                Of course we are here, Yura. For a little worthless, come on in full! drinks For Our Victory! drinks
                1. Aleks tv
                  Aleks tv 7 March 2014 23: 56
                  +2
                  Quote: studentmati
                  If you're still here - maybe a little? BUT?

                  Quote: studentmati
                  For a little worthless, come on in full!

                  Jura, Sasha:
                  hi
                  Easy !
                  I am for any kipish, except for a hunger strike.
                  drinks

                  But not for long, just for training before tomorrow's ... um, holiday "swim".
                  wink
                  1. pensioner
                    pensioner 8 March 2014 00: 00
                    +2
                    ABOUT! Hi Aleksey! Yes, I went to the doctor today. He looked at the tests and was even surprised! Everything is okay!! Paradox ... But the liver is planted is a fact ... Says a day is no sin no more than 60g. vodka .. And since I have not drunk for 8 days, today I think I ran into 2 bottles of dried ... Well, with the coming !! drinks
                  2. studentmati
                    studentmati 8 March 2014 00: 04
                    +3
                    Quote: Aleks tv
                    But not for long, just for training before tomorrow's ... um, holiday "swim".
                    wink


                    Hi, Lesh! Already with today's swim ... Give us the Almighty strength to survive with dignity today, the eighth day of March, 2014! drinks
                2. pensioner
                  pensioner 7 March 2014 23: 57
                  +3
                  Thanks for the support! Let's stir these up! Well andrei332809 and Aleks tv. Well, let's drink to my former head-manager. Department of Physics EVACU V.A. Chernyshov. He was a stunning man and scientist, to whom his younger brother, who emigrated to the USA, broke his entire scientific career ... He died in 1996. on my birthday, and they buried him on my birthday ... recently I was sorting through documents, papers, photos and something ... Come on ...
                  1. studentmati
                    studentmati 8 March 2014 00: 10
                    +1
                    Quote: retired
                    ... A terrific person and scientist, ...


                    For the Patriots, Yura! drinks drinks drinks
                    1. pensioner
                      pensioner 8 March 2014 00: 15
                      0
                      Quote: studentmati
                      For the Patriots, Yura!

                      Come on and for them too ... drinks
                3. gfs84
                  gfs84 7 March 2014 23: 59
                  +2
                  Guys !! If you're still here - maybe a little? AND? Breaking the regime today. So ... Winz ...

                  Maybe cognac?
                  1. pensioner
                    pensioner 8 March 2014 00: 01
                    +1
                    Quote: gfs84
                    Maybe cognac?

                    It is sinful to laugh at sick people ... crying But if you have, then ...
                    1. gfs84
                      gfs84 8 March 2014 00: 03
                      +1
                      Sorry, I was not in the know (((
                      I’m just either beer or cognac ...
                      1. pensioner
                        pensioner 8 March 2014 00: 05
                        0
                        Quote: gfs84
                        I’m just either beer or cognac ...

                        Well, stop at one thing ...
                      2. gfs84
                        gfs84 8 March 2014 00: 42
                        0
                        Well, I’m like that ... well, you understand, I’m always a little lacking ...)))
                4. Aleks tv
                  Aleks tv 8 March 2014 00: 06
                  0
                  Quote: gfs84
                  Well with the upcoming !!

                  Ага.
                  All of us with their day!
                  drinks

                  Quote: gfs84
                  Maybe cognac?

                  Sergey, Yuri and I are already sort of the 8 number ... 2 hours of the night.

                  If brandy is already starting now, then ... women will not see us sober ...
                  laughing
                  1. pensioner
                    pensioner 8 March 2014 00: 13
                    +2
                    Quote: Aleks tv
                    If brandy is already starting now, then ... women will not see us sober ...

                    Well...what They will see! yes Probably ... Most likely ... Someday ... repeat
                    And generally speaking! A cheeky husband is a good husband! And everyone loves the good ...
                    1. studentmati
                      studentmati 8 March 2014 00: 17
                      +1
                      Quote: retired
                      A cheeky husband is a good husband! And everyone loves the good ...


                      Their love is priceless !!! .... love Rather, it would be March 9th ....
                    2. pensioner
                      pensioner 8 March 2014 00: 21
                      0
                      Quote: studentmati
                      Their love is priceless !!!

                      Having a fairly long life experience and often getting lost on multi-day business trips, I would not categorically say so ... repeat
                    3. studentmati
                      studentmati 8 March 2014 00: 25
                      +1
                      Quote: retired
                      Having a fairly long life experience and often getting lost in multi-day business trips, I would not categorically say so ... feel


                      We all live by faith! Well, if it is impossible to change the situation, then you need to look for ways to adapt ...
                    4. pensioner
                      pensioner 8 March 2014 00: 29
                      +1
                      Quote: studentmati
                      We all live by faith! Well, if it is impossible to change the situation, then you need to look for ways to adapt ..

                      what Strong! hi Well ... for the adaptation! drinks
                    5. studentmati
                      studentmati 8 March 2014 00: 32
                      +1
                      Quote: retired
                      Well ... for the adaptation! drinks


                      Raise, Yura for her! drinks
                    6. gfs84
                      gfs84 8 March 2014 00: 41
                      0
                      I join)))
                  2. gfs84
                    gfs84 8 March 2014 00: 44
                    +1
                    Keep drinks
        2. gfs84
          gfs84 8 March 2014 00: 40
          0
          It has come, and it is no longer easy)))
          Mother-in-law congratulated)))
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 8 March 2014 00: 43
            0
            Quote: gfs84
            Has come

            what Where to?
            Quote: gfs84
            and not easy anymore

            And who is easy right now? recourse
            Quote: gfs84
            )))

            stop the brackets on the left are not open. to close them on the right ...
          2. gfs84
            gfs84 8 March 2014 00: 49
            +2
            Well, I still have 21 hours and 12 minutes to smile only with brackets, wife, daughter, mother-in-law and wife’s sister, but I’m not alone alone - I will congratulate everyone and ran to the men's site to worry about my homeland ...

            Maybe one more)))
          3. pensioner
            pensioner 8 March 2014 00: 58
            0
            Quote: gfs84
            Well, I still have 21 hours and 12 minutes to smile with brackets only
            belay belay
            Quote: gfs84
            wife, daughter, wife's mother-in-law and sister

            The barbarians ... am
            My wife also promised to sew up my mouth! True thread ... I did not think of the brackets ...
          4. gfs84
            gfs84 8 March 2014 01: 05
            +2
            I will answer the words of the classic:

            senior citizen (5)  Today, 00:43 ↑
            And who is easy right now?
          5. pensioner
            pensioner 8 March 2014 01: 08
            +1
            Quote: gfs84
            I will answer the words of the classic:

            senior citizen (5)  Today, 00:43 ↑
            And who is easy right now?

            For the classics - special thanks! hi
          6. studentmati
            studentmati 8 March 2014 01: 13
            0
            Quote: gfs84
            I will answer the words of the classic:


            "About how many wonderful discoveries the spirit of enlightenment is preparing for us ..." Yura says with his Soul, respect to you, Yur and honor !!!
          7. pensioner
            pensioner 8 March 2014 01: 16
            +1
            Quote: studentmati
            Quote: gfs84
            I will answer the words of the classic:


            "About how many wonderful discoveries the spirit of enlightenment is preparing for us ..." Yura says with his Soul, respect to you, Yur and honor !!!

            Thank you, Sasha! Good word and nice to the cat! Well ... For us! We are good people !! drinks
          8. studentmati
            studentmati 8 March 2014 01: 18
            0
            Quote: retired
            Well ... For us! We are good people !! drinks


            For good people, Yur! drinks After all, there are so few of us perishable on Earth! drinks wink
          9. pensioner
            pensioner 8 March 2014 01: 22
            +1
            By the way, did you happen to play chess, Sasha? In my opinion ...
          10. studentmati
            studentmati 8 March 2014 01: 31
            0
            Quote: retired
            By the way, did you happen to play chess, Sasha? In my opinion ...


            Of course I play, but how did you guess, Yur? More precisely, I played actively about 15 years ago, then I didn't play with someone, my dad died, my brother “chops cabbage for the offspring” and “the head of the family”. No matter how much I tried with a computer, I never got carried away, iron is iron ... sad And "live" chess players are a show-off today ...
        3. pensioner
          pensioner 8 March 2014 01: 33
          0
          Well ... In view of the drying up of the source, it is forced to take off before the ugliness! Be healthy dear! Till!hi
        4. studentmati
          studentmati 8 March 2014 01: 39
          0
          Quote: retired
          Well ... In view of the drying up of the source, it is forced to take off before the outrage! Be healthy dear! Bye! Hi


          And you, Yur health and good sleep! Patience in the upcoming hard day! drinks
  2. pensioner
    pensioner 8 March 2014 01: 20
    0
    Yes, by the way ... And where is our filmmaker? Well, in the sense of Andrew, which is a total of 25? Is it also a tanker? Ahhh ... Then it’s clear ... I saw, I saw here recently how they thumped ... A mournful sight ... crying
  • Navy7981
    Navy7981 8 March 2014 01: 44
    +1
    support!
  • Navy7981
    Navy7981 8 March 2014 01: 44
    0
    support!
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 8 March 2014 00: 38
    +4
    Quote: retired
    So ... Winz ...

    1. pensioner
      pensioner 8 March 2014 00: 46
      +2
      Not. Something I can spread. yes What about sitting with us? BUT? wink Girlfriends to congratulate? (Schaub them ... repeat )
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 8 March 2014 00: 50
        0
        Quote: retired
        Not. Something I can spread. yes What about sitting with us? AND? wink Girlfriends congratulate? (Schaub them ... feel)


        The holiday should be measured, unhurried, with an arrangement! That would have time to discuss urgent matters, and other "organizational" issues ...
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 8 March 2014 00: 53
          0
          Quote: studentmati
          and other "organizational" issues ...

          Well ... Announce the agenda of our ... hmm ... symposium.
          Quote: studentmati
          The holiday should be measured, unhurried
          -to-oh-oh to the balts yes
          Quote: studentmati
          What would urgent matters have time to discuss
          And what? Once did not have time, chel?what
      2. andrei332809
        andrei332809 8 March 2014 00: 53
        +1
        Quote: retired
        What about sitting with us? BUT?

        and will the "pensioner's" liver survive? drinks tongue
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 8 March 2014 00: 55
          0
          Quote: andrei332809
          and will the "pensioner's" liver survive?

          Do not be afraid! stop Training is a great thing! yes Well, + willpower and medicine ...
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 8 March 2014 00: 59
            0
            Quote: retired
            Do not be scared! stop Training is a great thing! yes Well + willpower and medicine


            For willpower! drinks

            Quote: retired
            And what? Once did not have time, chel? What


            And so they always succeed in everything! drinks

            Quote: retired
            Well ... Announce the agenda of our ... hmm ... symposium.


            The upcoming agenda is extremely full ... I wish you all patience !!! drinks
          2. pensioner
            pensioner 8 March 2014 01: 02
            +1
            Listen Alexander. I seem to agree on all points. But let's drink for one! And then you understand ... The consumption of the product and the liver with such a quick approach increases! I'll drink for 1 point! drinks
          3. studentmati
            studentmati 8 March 2014 01: 04
            0
            Quote: retired
            I'll drink for 1 point! drinks


            I support Yuri !!! For the first one in full faceted! drinks
  • ruslan207
    ruslan207 8 March 2014 00: 14
    +2
    shevron-It’s not the Bendera people those trained by the Fritzes in greenhouse conditions were grown and the ideological on the fingers wasn’t counted by the coward about Maidan now and didn’t remember
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 8 March 2014 00: 50
      +1
      Quote: ruslan207
      Yanuk was not a coward about the Maidan now and did not remember

      gold words. albeit distorted. used to write without errors. but ... own culture ...
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  • jjj
    jjj 8 March 2014 00: 27
    +3
    Quote: shevron
    Do you believe that there will be Russians in Ukraine there will be peace and order

    Russia with Putin managed to end the war in the Caucasus. Caucasian "rebels", perhaps, will be more abruptly than bandersnya. And yet, you, apparently, do not know that in Russia now they do not take prisoners. A counter-terrorist operation is announced. They surround the house, offer to release women and children. And boggle. Then geneticists will determine who was covered
  • Russ69
    Russ69 8 March 2014 01: 02
    0
    Quote: shevron
    Bendera fought until 1952 for reference

    We are Western Ukraine, in FIG is not needed. And here is your junta
    in power, faster will make the people go to the partisans.
  • tolancop
    tolancop 8 March 2014 01: 17
    +1
    You correctly noticed this from the "dishonest" war. This is when bandyugans are at war with their people. And guerrilla warfare is honest.
    If you do not believe it, read Kovpak, Vershigora, Fedorov, Saburov ...
    Are the surnames familiar?
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 8 March 2014 01: 22
      0
      Quote: tolancop
      Are the surnames familiar?


      We know each other. I would like to know more about Saburov?
  • Navy7981
    Navy7981 8 March 2014 01: 52
    +1
    For 23 years Ukraine has gone nowhere! Almost everything somehow looked like states and Tajiks, and Uzbeks, and Kazakhs. Some of you write in textbooks that Bandera and Sagaidachny did everything. For 23 years, instead of building a country, everyone complained that the Russians had you, the regiments, the Bolsheviks, the Germans. Maybe you just had to respect your neighbors and don't need to love him. Would that be what happened ???????
  • Navy7981
    Navy7981 7 March 2014 23: 40
    +4
    Yes please. Just remember, we always came to the capital of the enemy. Is always.
  • tolancop
    tolancop 8 March 2014 01: 11
    0
    In a warrior then why?
  • svp67
    svp67 7 March 2014 21: 10
    +6
    Maidan is very NATO
    But they don’t need NATO, they don’t need a country with unresolved territorial and internal problems ...
    1. de klermon
      de klermon 7 March 2014 21: 25
      +10
      I agree, moreover, they, in the Rada, are not only with NATO ...
      I want to join NATO - they don’t need to,
      I want to go to the EU - they don’t need it again,
      I want to join the community of "free, democratic and developed" - "I will not crawl",
      they’re called in the TS - I don’t want to ...
      As the saying goes - "Let's drink so that our desires coincide with our capabilities!"
      PS It seems Rada is already not happy that she is Rada!
      1. I read the news
        I read the news 7 March 2014 22: 50
        +6
        - why glad?
        - because I don’t think.
        smile
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 7 March 2014 23: 13
          +1
          Quote: I readNews
          why glad?
          - because I don’t think.

          and who gut that are not alike? flakes and money-grubbers there and there
  • Vita_vko
    Vita_vko 7 March 2014 21: 10
    +11
    Maidan is very NATO
    and the Crimea Collective Security Treaty Organization, Odessa and Donbas in general in the SCO.
  • figwam
    figwam 7 March 2014 21: 15
    +14
    I conclude that Ukraine is no longer a mess, anarchy. But Russians need to be saved.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 7 March 2014 21: 52
      +6
      Unchristians are saved from hell by slandering 30 pieces of silver, and the Russians are saved before those nearby. Helping brothers is our sacred duty.
    3. agbykov
      agbykov 8 March 2014 00: 19
      +1
      This fact still does not reach many in Ukraine. Inertia of thinking ...
  • andrei332809
    andrei332809 7 March 2014 21: 16
    +4
    Well, NATO ... So, NATO ...
    oh, morons. Georgians didn’t commit much. Well, hold on, these are not Georgians, these are hoxles !!!
  • AV 587
    AV 587 7 March 2014 21: 17
    +1
    The article is about nothing.
  • JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 7 March 2014 21: 17
    +12
    Spit on NATO.
    In the summer I will go to Yalta to have a rest.
    They say it is beautiful.
    1. Vl690006
      Vl690006 7 March 2014 21: 50
      +4
      Even more. Especially when you come down from the side of Simferopol along the coast and everywhere there are small corners for a buzz (sea and mountains). I also walked from the sea on my ship.
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  • tochila
    tochila 7 March 2014 21: 22
    +13
    No PMCs can fight the army of the Russian state! WILD GEORGE for banana island states!
  • Egoza
    Egoza 7 March 2014 21: 27
    +19
    A little off topic, but still ....
    D. Bulatov: "As the Minister of Youth and Sports of Ukraine, I officially inform you about my decision personally boycott the XI Winter Paralympic Games in Sochi in connection with the aggression of the Russian Federation. I personally, the Paralympic athletes and the National Paralympic Committee hope that the Russian leadership realizes the degree of responsibility to the world community and will stop aggression against Ukraine. "
    xxxxxxxxxx
    "Disabled" without a third ear? What sport was he going to play at the Paralympic Games?And our athletes went!!!!
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 7 March 2014 21: 41
      +9
      Helen! Goodnight!
      Let me congratulate you on the upcoming holiday! For lack of the opportunity to congratulate you somehow more substantially, allow me to ask! May I break the regime for you? Little... repeat Can? Well, thank God! Happy holiday to you!love drinks
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 7 March 2014 22: 35
        +1
        Quote: retired
        May I break the regime for you?

        Thanks for the congratulation! You can break if for me !!! drinks laughing
        But anyway! WHERE A FISH? repeat laughing
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 7 March 2014 22: 38
          +2
          Quote: Egoza
          But anyway! WHERE A FISH?

          Is growing! yes Do you not hear the crackling of scales that forms when you increase its size? what Strange ... But I hear ... repeat
          Well that's it ... I'll go to the bins. After 5 minutes, congratulations on the merits.
        2. pensioner
          pensioner 7 March 2014 22: 46
          +1
          Well, that’s it! Happy holiday !! love drinks hi
    2. Max otto
      Max otto 7 March 2014 21: 55
      +3
      Nevertheless, Ukrainian Paralympics arrived in Sochi! There the whole government is like that - they are saying something, but nobody is listening to them.
    3. Vl690006
      Vl690006 7 March 2014 22: 01
      +6
      Good night, Helen! I congratulate you on the upcoming holiday (although I have already arrived at my home in the Urals). And I wish you to have PEACE and PEACE at home. He himself was in many coastal cities of Ukraine (Mariupol, Berdyansk, Kerch, Sevastopol, Nikolaev, Odessa, Izmail, Reni). And when they asked me where the most beautiful girls are, I always spoke to (in) Ukraine. So be always beautiful and desirable for your men.
      Sailor captain
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    5. konvalval
      konvalval 7 March 2014 22: 06
      +6
      Dear Egoza (Elena). Congratulations on Women's Day on March 8th. Guys support.
    6. skeptic
      skeptic 7 March 2014 22: 18
      +3
      Quote: Egoza
      "Disabled" without a third ear?


      That's why it doesn’t go - it’s afraid that ears can count.


      All the charming creatures, the most beautiful half of humanity with a HOLIDAY !!!
    7. Ulairy
      Ulairy 7 March 2014 22: 33
      +2
      Ha-h, "decisions to boycott personally", utyu-tu ... No one is not lube, no one is uvozhae, I'm going to the swamp, we eat a worm ... Did anyone ask this moron Bulatov about his opinion at all? No, well, every freak is trying personally speak against the Olympics! Got it!
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 7 March 2014 22: 40
        +3
        Quote: Ulairy
        No, well, every freak is trying to personally speak against the Olympics! Got it!

        I would say bluntly - "I'm afraid that they will make me a Paralympian"! wassat

        Thank you all for your congratulations! Very touched! To all your dear and beloved - all the best !!!
    8. DMB-78
      DMB-78 7 March 2014 22: 49
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      “As the Minister of Youth and Sports of Ukraine, I officially announce my decision to personally boycott the XI Winter Paralympic Games in Sochi in connection with the aggression of the Russian Federation.

      to fall and get up))))))))) the frame did not come and nobody noticed, and this set itself on a par with him))))))))))))))
    9. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 7 March 2014 22: 51
      +3
      Quote: Egoza
      "Disabled" without a third ear?

      Judging by the statement, disability is caused by a lack of brain ...
  • Committee
    Committee 7 March 2014 21: 29
    +6
    Only force makes you reckon. You can be arbitrarily kind, all smile, but you must be strong. Iskander in Kaliningrad is good!
  • sprinterlis
    sprinterlis 7 March 2014 21: 31
    +7
    But the conclusion begs one ... they will merge you - banderlog
  • Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 7 March 2014 21: 31
    +7
    They are unlikely to crawl into NATO, an article has appeared about Hungary and Romania, they really want to return their fellow countrymen, and so they are in NATO. So an interesting picture is drawn
    1. gfs84
      gfs84 7 March 2014 22: 23
      +3
      And our NATO is trolling)))

      Turkey raised six F-16 fighters after a Russian Air Force reconnaissance aircraft flew off the coast of the country. This was reported on March 7 by Reuters.

      The incident occurred on Thursday, 6 March, but the military reported it only now. In Ankara, they stressed that all the flight time the Russian aircraft remained in international airspace.
      1. DMB-78
        DMB-78 7 March 2014 22: 52
        +2
        Quote: gfs84
        Turkey lifts six F-16 fighters

        and raised six fighters out of curiosity? have you ever seen such before? laughing
  • ussrex
    ussrex 7 March 2014 21: 34
    +8
    Interestingly the girls are dancing ...
    1. designer_59
      designer_59 7 March 2014 21: 52
      +3
      Really so bad. Why are we surrendering Ukraine then?
    2. Gorinich
      Gorinich 7 March 2014 21: 58
      -10%
      Curious, nice, but raises too many questions. It makes no sense to list all of them. Only one fact that the standard of living in the United States is higher than in Russia already puts too many emphasis.
      1. Saburov
        Saburov 8 March 2014 04: 33
        +1
        Because in the USA they printed money higher than in Russia and the level of idiocy raised to a degree among the population is higher.
    3. Gunsmith
      Gunsmith 7 March 2014 22: 18
      +4
      Cool video, thanks! Reviewed with pleasure. In different social networks, I have albums called * See all * - this video and the like are present. People watch, comment, everyone likes. The topic is sharp.
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  • rasputin17
    rasputin17 7 March 2014 21: 37
    +5
    However, the question of Ukraine joining NATO, which, according to some Ukrainian politicians, guarantees it complete security and integrity, is a very controversial and certainly lengthy one. AND

    In other words; If, like ostriches, put your head in the sand, then your back part will still remain outside without supervision !!))
  • Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol 7 March 2014 21: 37
    +9
    If we discard all "emotional attempts", then we can clearly see:

    1. Ukraine is being led according to the National-German scenario of 1933 of the year.
    2. Yarosh lead along the line of Hitler.
    3. Yatsenyuk and Turchinov (under the European Union - Timoshenko, and the Star of David - Tyagnibok) the lambs to the slaughter, will do their job and will be sacrificed.
    4. NATO doesn’t give a damn about rockets ... You won’t surprise anyone, and nobody will rush them. But the individual assault-terror detachments, in a certain amount, are much more effective, both in terms of influencing the masses and in terms of the West’s response to these manifestations, in terms of information warfare.
    5. The more hype inside Ukraine, and inside Russia in relation to Ukraine, the better the wisdom of Western capital. And Pragmatics is just that. BABLO!
    6. BABLO-AUTHORITY, this precisely defines the West, in relation to everyone else who does not have power over the Bubble, but uses it.
    7. LABOR INFLUENCE, this is what is used by the West, in relation to all who are not in this configuration, taking into account item 6. And to all agents of influence, who are in this configuration, but present in territories that must be configurable.
  • pensioner
    pensioner 7 March 2014 21: 37
    +3
    As it was, for example, in the situation with Poland, when the probability of the appearance of Euro-missile defense there led to a statement about the deployment of Russian Iskander missile systems in the Kaliningrad region. The Polish project then hastily curtailed.
    Is it accurate? I just recently read somewhere about how eagerly the psheks are waiting for the deployment of missile defense from them ...
  • siberalt
    siberalt 7 March 2014 21: 37
    +12
    Citizens and citizens, look in the eyes of Turchinov! This is a Serbian clinic!
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/520/dtwe392.jpg
    1. ratnik
      ratnik 7 March 2014 21: 50
      +6
      In St. Petersburg .. on the "buckle" faces are nicer ((( lol
    2. Ptah
      Ptah 7 March 2014 21: 59
      +14
      Quote: siberalt
      This is a Serbian clinic!

      This is the Kashchenko clinic.
      I even know who will play the role of the crazy Turchinov in the comedy about the Maidan.
      Maybe so -
      1


      Or so -
      1. Ulairy
        Ulairy 7 March 2014 22: 43
        +1
        Wow, are these his brothers or something? winked
      2. kare
        kare 7 March 2014 22: 56
        +1
        Lower Gosha Kutsenko reminds
      3. from punk
        from punk 7 March 2014 23: 07
        +3
        Kutsenko will play it at Bekmambetov smile
    3. from punk
      from punk 7 March 2014 23: 03
      +1
      Mary devi Christos will definitely come to power.
    4. Oleg Sobol
      Oleg Sobol 7 March 2014 23: 16
      +2
      There is a universal law! What is Inside (Spirit, Soul) is also outside (Flesh).
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  • siberalt
    siberalt 7 March 2014 21: 39
    +13
    And this is a new image of angry nezalezhnosti. laughing To the tastes of the gay people.
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/979/cyvk76.jpg
    1. Max otto
      Max otto 7 March 2014 21: 57
      +5
      And it, by the way, will soon ask for Russian citizenship, and it will not take half a year.
    2. from punk
      from punk 7 March 2014 23: 05
      0
      a little heart for president fellow
    3. polite people
      polite people 7 March 2014 23: 16
      0
      This is to say the least !!!!!!!!!!
    4. pensioner
      pensioner 7 March 2014 23: 41
      +2
      ABOUT! That's who you need to put forward in dill !! Win in one wicket. Moreover, half of Ukraine will be sure that they voted for a woman ...
  • Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 7 March 2014 21: 45
    +7
    All of NATO scare Russia (former) and China .. well, well And we Rat! Learn our story .. advice to you and do not anger the Russian bear.! We are not just angry anymore, but we are starting to Satan .. Oh wait ..!
  • Mentor
    Mentor 7 March 2014 21: 45
    +6
    Quote: And Us Rat
    Quote: a52333
    there are practically no people willing to become under arms - the announced general mobilization collected in the military commissariats 1,5 percent of the draft contingent.

    but our patriotism goes wild! like Putin’s rating. Benders really got it, but let them not rely on the states, not for that the states in them looted enemas in order to fight by themselves.

    Yes, but there are PMCs ... what

    There was a good article about PMCs in Afghanistan and Iraq in "Foreign Military Review" last year. (Unfortunately, the entire archive collapsed along with Windows). Normal mercenaries, stay away from gunfire and closer to money.
    ABOUT! Remembered! I posted it on the network - http://alternathistory.org.ua/autsorsing-v-stranah-nato-nichego-lichnogo-tolko-b
    iznes
  • katastrofa
    katastrofa 7 March 2014 21: 45
    +3
    I’m certainly a delitant, but I am increasingly convinced that Yarosh, as a maximum deserted kazochok (naturally sent by our side) or at least a couple of months ago, our specialists dug up and conducted an explanatory conversation about how to behave! I will explain why:
    1) as soon as the "new power" came to power, so that they immediately pushed any law (since the heads are very hot in the right sector), the first thing that Yarosh asks is the BAN OF THE RUSSIAN LANGUAGE!
    2) when the Crimea starts to object, the RIGHT SECTOR promises to send a "train of friendship" there and "very polite people" appear in the Crimea!
    3) then Yarosh calls Doku Umarov (why? The question arises)
    4) it seems that the whole world is slowly beginning to recognize that Crimea is "almost ours", but only Crimea, and the rest of Ukraine will go to them. And Yatsenyuk brings documents from Europe for a loan, Yarosh is going to run for president, so that there is not enough else he asks to open warehouses and arm your power unit !!!
    I’m certainly a deletant in military affairs, but if Yarosh was able to create and head such an organization as PS, then you certainly won’t call him a fool, and here doubts arose, but is he a Nazi_FASHIST_BENDER, could he have been sent? what
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 7 March 2014 21: 57
      +6
      Quote: katastrofa
      can nevertheless be mishandled?

      De no ... Too many-way combination for him. Just de ... l fool
      1. katastrofa
        katastrofa 7 March 2014 22: 02
        +2
        There is another option:
        they instilled something into him, and now they dictate to him the PS policy, there is no antidote repeat
        1. Vl690006
          Vl690006 7 March 2014 22: 15
          +2
          There is. Soap and rope.
          1. katastrofa
            katastrofa 7 March 2014 22: 18
            0
            and why this comment
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        3. pensioner
          pensioner 7 March 2014 22: 30
          0
          Unless so ... To live and de..ll want.
    2. Kite
      Kite 7 March 2014 22: 31
      +2
      Quote: katastrofa
      here doubts arose, but is he a Nazi?

      - no doubt, he is an ordinary scumbag! How did you just think that he had a mind?
      1. katastrofa
        katastrofa 7 March 2014 22: 34
        0
        Reason is also that he leads the PS, this is proof, but the inconsistency of his behavior over the past two weeks gives rise to all doubts))))))
  • Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 7 March 2014 21: 45
    +5
    What kind of NATO, they themselves don’t know what the hell to sit on, well, not what music will play for long, and NATO and Russia do not intend to enter into a confrontation, and they don’t really want to give them money, the United States already perfectly understands that the denouement is close and the sword will soon fall on their stupid heads!
  • polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 7 March 2014 21: 55
    +7
    For Gubarev, of course, we must fight and it must be done by the Donetsk people themselves, to show the Westerners that they exist, otherwise they only boast: "We are miners!" Or no longer, peasants, Cossacks in the Donetsk region, cannot write letters to Kiev (Lvov) at a preferential rate. PMCs (easier for mercenaries) are certainly prepared guys, no words, but "with good organization of work with them," the road to " Boryspil "will be found VERY FAST! The EU and the US are well aware that they made a bet on the Banderlog and now they themselves do not know what to do with them, a little later, they themselves will start shooting them, and how else is it possible to stay white and fluffy and clear of shit? ...
    1. katastrofa
      katastrofa 7 March 2014 22: 03
      +5
      miners will probably rise from the mines today, and arrange tomorrow, although we'll see
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 7 March 2014 22: 34
        +5
        Quote: katastrofa
        miners will probably rise from the mines today, and arrange tomorrow, although we'll see

        They won’t be happy anymore. All. The train left. It was necessary to arrange March 3-5. Moreover, in coordination with the entire Southeast. And since such coordination is not observed, then they will be partially pacified. Hard. These guys have already tasted the blood and will not stop before another portion of the blood.
        1. katastrofa
          katastrofa 7 March 2014 22: 39
          +3
          for all three months, the South-East, on an increasing basis only on weekends (I think people are used to working), but now they seem to want to play "Gubarev's wife" at the moment she is raising the Donetsk region on all social networks!
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 7 March 2014 22: 57
            +3
            She won't raise anything already. So: there will be flashes, of course, but there will be nothing serious that would threaten the pro-Kiev authorities. Weapons are great strength. To go to him, you need to have an IDEA ... And so: to hold a meeting between shifts, after a dump ... This is not a struggle for an IDEA ... Well, it seems to me ... It is difficult for an ordinary working person to accept the idea that in the 21st century, 70 years after WW2, in a civilized country, in a well-arranged life, one must also fight for something with the risk to life or, at least, to the well-being of the family ... Thought: "Maybe it will cost?" - this is the main IDEA. Not all of them, of course, but the majority. Well, again - my opinion. But this is also a position and must be respected.
            1. katastrofa
              katastrofa 7 March 2014 23: 02
              +2
              I agree, but not quite, it could not have disappeared in 23 years for everyone "that the weak and women need to be protected !!!" and his wife is both weak and a woman, and besides, even at the moment, and the victim
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 7 March 2014 23: 09
                +1
                Quote: katastrofa
                I agree, but not quite, it could not have disappeared in 23 years for all "that the weak and women need to be protected !!!"

                Yes, that's the beauty of this position: "Maybe it will cost?", That it gives HOPE! And man feeds on hope, faith in a better future. It works like that. And when it doesn’t do and when a real tragedy occurs and a person loses EVERYTHING, then an IDEA appears ...
                Proverbs and sayings on this topic in Russian folklore are enough. ..
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 7 March 2014 23: 11
                  +2
                  Quote: retired
                  Proverbs and sayings on this topic in Russian folklore are enough. ..


                  "Trust in God, but don't do it yourself!"
                  1. pensioner
                    pensioner 7 March 2014 23: 20
                    0
                    Quote: studentmati
                    "Trust in God, but don't do it yourself!"

                    More about roasted rooster and lightning ...
                    1. studentmati
                      studentmati 7 March 2014 23: 27
                      +2
                      Quote: retired
                      More about roasted rooster and lightning ...


                      Confirmation of the tolerance of the Russian people! An overflowing cup of patience will bring many "surprises" and surprises ...
            2. studentmati
              studentmati 7 March 2014 23: 09
              +1
              Quote: retired
              Thought: "Maybe it will cost?" - this is the main IDEA. Not all of them, of course, but the majority.


              Philosophical thought, Jura! The way it is! Especially if there is no heating and support from the side of which they ask for help! This is called betrayal.
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 7 March 2014 23: 12
                +1
                Hello Sasha! Something you somehow somehow dumped in English ... Stop taking an example from them! am If something is wrong, then it is better to say: "Let's go all nah! I sleep, drink, to women, to work, to feat, to the scaffold, to study. The necessary emphasis ...
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 7 March 2014 23: 15
                  0
                  Quote: retired
                  "Let's go all nah! I sleep, drink, to women, to work, to feat, to the scaffold, to study. Underline the necessary ...


                  Yura, I understand you, sorry, from now on I will be specific and brief.
              2. pensioner
                pensioner 7 March 2014 23: 15
                0
                Quote: studentmati
                This is called betrayal.

                Well, I don’t know ... Actually (well, it seems to me) all the pro-Russian forces of the East of Ukraine should have united long ago! After all, everything was clear back in November! Well, where were they ?? Did you work? Oh well...
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 7 March 2014 23: 23
                  +1
                  Quote: retired
                  Well, I don’t know ... Actually (well, it seems to me) all the pro-Russian forces of the East of Ukraine should have united long ago! After all, everything was clear back in November! Well, where were they ?? Did you work? Oh well...


                  "Behold at the root", Yura! "maydanutyh" purposefully prepared for more than one year, agree? And the east of Ukraine lived and suffered in soul. Any political force must have its own "leading and guiding". There was no one to unite the "East of Ukraine". For Russia - not the same methods, it is too cheap! The Russian warrior does not tolerate undercover games, and if he hits, then on the go and with all his Heroic strength!
                  1. pensioner
                    pensioner 7 March 2014 23: 31
                    +2
                    Quote: studentmati
                    There was no one to unite the "East of Ukraine"

                    But for this, no Taras Bulba or Bogdan Khmelnitsky is needed. Means of communication in our time abound. Coordinate your actions, show that you are an organized force, organize in a regional movement and then turn to Russia. What is the matter with the Front (popular, or what?), Which was organized in Kharkov on 21-22.02? Zilch with him, that's what ... Well, okay. Nalyuka, I’m giving myself some wine! good
                    1. studentmati
                      studentmati 7 March 2014 23: 35
                      0
                      Quote: retired
                      But for this, no Taras Bulba or Bogdan Khmelnitsky is needed ... Coordinate your actions ..., organize in a regional movement ... Well, okay, I’ll pour some wine for myself! good


                      Well, where we are not ... I’m the same, Yur pours and raises a toast so that there would be no more victims in this confrontation! drinks
                      1. pensioner
                        pensioner 7 March 2014 23: 38
                        0
                        ABOUT! Tse Dilo! drinks For fighting friends! Without clinking glasses ...
        2. studentmati
          studentmati 7 March 2014 23: 03
          +1
          Quote: retired
          All. The train left. It was necessary to arrange March 3-5. Moreover, in coordination with the entire Southeast.


          Therefore, Crimea is in a hurry with a referendum, postponing dates! Good night, Yura!
        3. Irtysh
          Irtysh 7 March 2014 23: 08
          +3
          It feels like you have not seen miners whose families have nothing to eat. In this case, the junta only napalm will help. And this is another calico.
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 7 March 2014 23: 18
            0
            Quote: Irtysh
            It feels like you have not seen miners whose families have nothing to eat.

            Saw. And a lot. Both in Ukraine and in Kuzbass. I myself grew up in a mining town and have almost 6 years of mining experience. He worked at a branch institute ... He went down to iron ore mines and to salt and coal mines. I know mining psychology very well.
        4. agbykov
          agbykov 8 March 2014 00: 27
          +2
          Will they pacify? If repressed, how long? After all, life does not end. Ahead of April and May, and May 1, and May 9. Will the junta survive until May 25 ???
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 8 March 2014 00: 36
            0
            Quote: agbykov
            Will they pacify? If repressed, how long? After all, life does not end.

            Well, I basically meant the same thing. Yes. Not forever. Yes. Perhaps sometime later clusters of anger will sprout ... But not soon. Because they intimidate. And what about the election? Soldiers will be caught up in the elections, the Right Sector will be pulled up, on the eve of one of the activists, they will be exponentially crucified ... and that’s all ... And any government can count ...
  • Coffee_time
    Coffee_time 7 March 2014 22: 00
    +4
    No matter how NATO bursts from the gluttony (bloating) of its bloc. And the Maidan, in my opinion, since they are like a microbe
  • skifd
    skifd 7 March 2014 22: 01
    +6
    Off topic, but:

    "CyberBerkut group appeared on the network: up:
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater
    I don’t know if the link will open or not, so I’ll bring their statement here:

    BLIMEY!!!
    CYBERBERCUT-FORWARD !!!
    The coolest group of hackers in the world called Anonymous (they hacked the sites of the Pentagon and the US government, it was they who posted two Western diplomats talking about snipers on the Maidan) declared war on the Bandera regime of Kiev and their associates from the USA and the EU. Today, they posted an official notice of their actions on their website.
    We, CyberBerkut, report that today the political traitors who seized power in Kiev as a result of the neo-fascist coup have gone too far in their betrayal. We became aware that the new regime, not trusting its people and ignoring its free will, is doing everything to ensure that our country is occupied by NATO forces, private US military companies and becomes a platform for the deployment of an American missile defense system. Apparently, we were not heard, but we were ready for this. Yatsenyuk and Tymoshenko, how did you like the recording of the telephone conversation between the Estonian Foreign Minister and Catherine Ashton? Get ready and not for such surprises!
    Given the sharp aggravation of the socio-political situation in Ukraine, gross violations of the Constitution and laws of the country, inalienable rights and freedoms of citizens, including the right to life, freedom of thought and speech, the right to speak one’s native language, we, CyberBerkut, inform that we have stopped countdown and move on to action.
    You, Yatsenyuk, Klitschko, Tyagnibok and conditionally released Tymoshenko, missed your chance, and there will be no mercy for you. You had the opportunity to save yourself and prevent the development of the tragedy in Ukraine, but you went further and wanted to hide from your people behind the backs of NATO soldiers and for this you are ready to continue to trade in our country. We “CyberBerkut” will not allow you to do this. We will help Ukraine maintain independence from the military aggression of the West, which is ready to defend the neo-fascist government.
    We have already blocked the work of sites:
    http://banderivets.org.ua/
    http://helpmaidan.org.ua/
    http://maidanhelp.com.ua/
    ..... "next is a list of sites.

    Well done!

    https://www.cyberguerrilla.org/blog/?p=17585
    1. kvr
      kvr 7 March 2014 22: 24
      +2
      Maydanutye must erect monuments to Russia throughout Ukraine. If there had not been a "tough" response from Russia, the West would not have given them a penny, and the hungry would have pelted them with empty pans.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 8 March 2014 02: 54
        0
        Quote: qr
        Maydanutye must erect monuments to Russia throughout Ukraine. If there had not been a "tough" response from Russia, the West would not have given them a penny, and the hungry would have pelted them with empty pans.

        Yes, and so he will not give them. Unless only to maintain a military confrontation with Russia. And even then, not the whole West, but only the Americans. They just sit across the seas ...
    2. DMB-78
      DMB-78 7 March 2014 22: 59
      +1
      Quote: skifd
      "CyberBerkut group appeared on the network

      checked yesterday. all these sites open. no one is locked
    3. kare
      kare 7 March 2014 23: 05
      0
      Followed the links, everything is blocked
    4. polite people
      polite people 7 March 2014 23: 32
      +2
      guys and you do not drive. Something all the sites above work. Ah ah ah
      1. skifd
        skifd 8 March 2014 00: 06
        0
        Quote: polite people
        guys and you do not drive. Something all the sites above work. Ah ah ah


        Damn .. What is this - "Cyber-Berkut" fake ?? I also checked, they are already opening .. sad
  • Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 7 March 2014 22: 20
    +6
    The more the Maidan governs in power wither, the better Ukrainians themselves see them.
    Let them further reveal their essence.

    Нabsolutely Аdekvatnaya Тterrorist Оorganization with a base ... in Ukraine ...
    Heh.
    Well it was SUCH to close up from the stands ...
    Those. For them to sell their homeland as a two-finger deal.
    Oh well...

    Can at least IT citizens of Ukraine wake up?
    Can they sleep well and be indignant in the kitchens?
    Maybe it's time to get up and finally cast your vote?

    Ali do not care?

    Do at least something YOURSELF, Ukrainians, or are there no men left?
    No offense.
  • gunter_laux
    gunter_laux 7 March 2014 22: 25
    +2
    Unsinkable aircraft carrier with a friendly Russian crew, a bone in the insatiable baggage of NATO !!!!
  • konvalval
    konvalval 7 March 2014 22: 27
    +3
    Quote: Gorinich
    Curious, nice, but raises too many questions. It makes no sense to list all of them. Only one fact that the standard of living in the United States is higher than in Russia already puts too many emphasis.

    And you, by chance, did not hear that there was not a single war in America, all their lives they did that they robbed the whole world and they did not have an ever-drunk president? Now know.
  • Egoza
    Egoza 7 March 2014 22: 48
    +4
    Minister of Internal Affairs Arsen Avakov appealed to employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and Internal Troops of Crimea with an appeal to remain calm.
    This was reported by the website of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine. “I am addressing you at a difficult moment when the country is balancing on the brink of a fratricidal war, when other politicians are trying to take advantage of the difficult situation that the previous criminal regime drove Ukraine into, when people are confused and frightened, and therefore are an easy target for manipulation. At such a difficult moment, nothing is more important for you than fulfilling your main function - ensuring law and order on the streets of cities, safety on roads and peace in the homes of residents of the Crimea.
    People need a sense of security - regardless of political views, nationality or religion. Today you must be calm, balanced and not succumb to provocations. The duty of every policeman is to act in full accordance with the laws of Ukraine, ”the appeal says. He also said that he was confident that "the constitutional order in the country will be restored, the situation will stabilize, Ukraine is and will be a single country."
    “Remember: the highest value of society is human life. Today, the mission of law enforcement agencies is to keep the situation from exploding, to provide an opportunity to solve problems through negotiations, to prevent violent conflicts and casualties. Do not be afraid and do not engage in lies! As the great Russian writer Solzhenitsyn wrote, the most accessible way is personal non-participation in a lie! “Let the lie cover everything, own everything, but at the smallest let us rest: not through me!” - added Avakov.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-140723.html
    XXXX
    Found someone to refer !!! And something is in no hurry to act on its own call !!! am
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 7 March 2014 23: 16
      +1
      [media = http: //]
      Quote: Egoza
      . Do not be afraid and do not engage in lies!
    2. tolancop
      tolancop 8 March 2014 01: 34
      +1
      I know about Solzhenitsyn, I heard ...
      But with what fright is he GREAT? Do not pull, IMHO ...
  • studentmati
    studentmati 7 March 2014 22: 53
    +4
    It remains for Ukraine to seek an external defender ... But there is NATO ...

    A shortsighted approach always leads to disastrous results. Read Bismarck: “Do not hope that once you take advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come, do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you signed, supposedly supporting you. They are not worth the paper on which they are written. Therefore, it is worth either playing fair with the Russians, or not playing at all. ".

    Russia was baptized on the Dnieper, in the Ukraine, just over 1 years ago. Do the Americans really think that they will be able to disrupt the sisters in such a way? Whatever one may say, but a bunch of emigrants who are just over 000 years old will not be able to "make" the Russian Land!

    "The preemptive war against Russia is suicide for fear of death." (Bismarck).
  • katastrofa
    katastrofa 7 March 2014 22: 55
    +7
    serious bid to win !!! lol
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 7 March 2014 22: 59
      +2
      For firewood, it’s all the same to Siberia ... Where to go?
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 8 March 2014 11: 42
        0
        Again to Siberia for logging ...
        But this, of course, for banderlogs.
        And the rest in Ukraine, gas and bread and salt for the price, as in Russia.
  • v53993
    v53993 7 March 2014 23: 09
    +2
    Firstly, the army as such in the country is no longer there - it’s collapsed. And what kind of combat readiness, when a couple of hundred nationalists with clubs can block a military unit? Secondly, there are practically no willing to become under arms

    It is precisely the nationalists that need to be eliminated, but the humane government of Russia follows the line of the Western democrats: negotiations, treaties. It seems that it sold the east of Ukraine, for the Crimea. Let's wait to make sure? This is where hell begins.
    1. tolancop
      tolancop 8 March 2014 01: 45
      0
      Russia scrupulously abides by the LAW !!!! And let the East tear off the ass.
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 8 March 2014 11: 44
        0
        cruel, but almost right.
        Nevertheless, Russia should open a consulate in the southeast in every town and large village with the protection of their marines and paratroopers.
  • Potin
    Potin 7 March 2014 23: 15
    +2
    As Yushchenko came to power in 2004, he immediately dragged Ukraine into NATO, as Saakashvili Georgia (by the way, both Yushchenko and Saakashvili have an American wife). And NATO already prepared them there with might and main - just about to become members. Well, here is the year 2008. Opening of the Beijing Olympics. Everyone was there for the holiday, and Saakashvili with his army the other way - to Tskhinvali. And when we began to tear Georgians ass, he rushed to NATO for help. And they looked at what morons they are dealing with, and since then all the talk about Georgia and Ukraine joining NATO has ended.
  • Potin
    Potin 7 March 2014 23: 24
    0
    Quote: konvalval
    living standards in the United States are higher than in Russia already puts too many emphasis.

    This is more likely their disadvantage than dignity. They have something to lose, and this makes people cowardly.
  • Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 7 March 2014 23: 46
    +2
    Quote: Irtysh
    It feels like you have not seen miners whose families have nothing to eat. In this case, the junta only napalm will help. And this is another calico.

    At a critical moment in the defense of Odessa, reinforcements were brought up - a fresh part of the Donbas miners. They arrived without weapons.
    And the situation ... 1941
    They went on the attack with one rifle for ten. Lost many.
    But the Nazis were discarded.
    Only 73 years have passed. People do not evolve so quickly.
    So I'm sure that if Donbas rises, the fascist scum will have to be searched in Lisbon.
  • Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 7 March 2014 23: 48
    +1
    In Donetsk, Berkut refused to follow orders from Kiev.

    http://warfiles.ru/49803-v-donecke-berkut-otkazalsya-vypolnyat-prikazy-iz-kieva.
    html
  • individual
    individual 7 March 2014 23: 53
    +1
    The West got the hang of doing dirty tricks for the Olympic Games. am
    Remember the games in Beijing and 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX. South Ossetia ...
    Olympics in Sochi and Ukraine 2014 ...
    On March 16, the Winter Olympic Games in Sochi will end and we need to deal with the consequences and the diagnosis - how to treat them.
    It should be expected that before the Rio Summer Olympics 2016 and 2018 Pyeongchang Winter Games, the exacerbation of the Western world can calm down!
    Then the doctor will write a prescription.
  • AVIATOR36662
    AVIATOR36662 7 March 2014 23: 57
    +1
    Quote: zzz
    Quote: Vasyan1971
    But I’m thinking - will Julia from the American NaftaGaz be able to dig this same gas?

    For your information, the Russian generals who passed along with Yulia in the case of embezzlement (especially fraud, etc.) honestly received their terms and much earlier Yulia took their places on the bunk in Russia. At that time, Yulia had immunity, and now she not a state figure, it may "thunder".
    1. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 8 March 2014 04: 32
      +1
      Quote: AVIATOR36662
      Russian generals, who went along with Yulia in the case of embezzlement (especially fraud, etc.) honestly received their terms and much earlier Yulia took places on the bunk in Russia.

      I recall the purely Russian surname Grigory Semenovich Oliynyk, spent five years ...
  • katastrofa
    katastrofa 7 March 2014 23: 59
    +4
    I KNOW MUCH WRITTEN, BUT READ MAY NOT WRITTEN WRITTEN !!!

    For 23 years we have been independent and free. We are not slaves, we are not, we are almost Europeans. Isn't that the most beautiful thing that could happen to us. We have thrown off all the shackles that can be thrown off. We have freed ourselves from bloody tyrants, from bloody history. From everything that connected us with "them" For a long time, almost a quarter of a century, such an air of Freedom, Equality, Brotherhood, which is not found anywhere else, has been walking in our country. Isn't that so? Shouldn't we be constantly proud of this? Is this not what we wanted and not what we have been striving for all these years? Isn't that what we hear from TVs and the Internet every minute? We are ready to give our lives for this freedom !!! This is our highest value. There is no higher. There is nothing more important in this world than our independence. Hands off Ukraine. And so on and so forth…
    And from whom are we independent? As a country, as a people? Just a minute ... just think. Who owns the power? People? Or oligarchs? Who has grown rich all these years? The people or they, these guardians for the people, who shout the loudest about our unity and our freedoms? Whose channels and sites tell us about this every minute? Why each president we have chosen every time promised us so much ... and why in all this time we have not received anything except this "freedom" and "independence", for which we are now ready to die in the struggle with the evil and cunning neighbor ? Each of us owes more 3000 dollars. Everyone, including babies! It is our duty to the whole world. 140 billion dollars. Where is the money? They are not! And there are debts. And you, and me, and every member of our families need to pay for them. This is our independence. Can a debtor be independent, as they say to us all this time? Is this what is our main value? Pay debts? And by the way, this value is growing every year.
    And to whom all these years our main value - Independence served? Authorities, politicians and oligarchs? Hiding behind the elections, we were forced to choose the next noisy politicians. That promised us prosperity again and again. And again and again this did not happen. Rather, prosperity happened in power, politicians and oligarchs. And this time, do you think we will be luckier? So maybe for oligarchs, independence is the main value? Independence from the people. Freedom to rob, steal, freedom to lie and pit us among themselves. All that surrounds us, that our parents built, fathers belong to them. They were able, hypnotizing us with words about freedom, democracy and independence, to appropriate everything to themselves! They collect loans, build castles, villas, yachts. They have accounts abroad, and their offsprings study at the most prestigious and expensive universities in the West. And we pay for it! And if you doubt the value of such independence, then you are a traitor, you sold yourself to Moscow and Putin personally. Is not it? Or maybe over the years we have become independent and free from our history, our language, our roots and ancestors? We were forced to abandon their exploits, great exploits and achievements of our people. Our Great Folk.
    For some reason, our heroes are now those whom our ancestors crushed during the Great War. As it happened, we demolish our own monuments, monuments to our ancestors, fathers and grandfathers. This is our memory. Who needs to destroy it? We are crazy as we again climb the barricades. Orem, that this time we will definitely live like a fairy tale. Once again this happens to us, what a vicious circle it is. What a wraith? We got rid of the corrupt power, again. For the umpteenth time. And again the ghost of hope, like a mirage beckons, whispering from all the irons, that this time we will certainly flourish and everyone will just die of envy. We have lost over the years more 6 millions! our citizens. These are impossible numbers. In peacetime. This is close to the loss of the entire civilian population of the USSR during the most terrible war in the history of mankind. And we lost them with peace, independence and democracy.
  • katastrofa
    katastrofa 8 March 2014 00: 00
    +1
    What have we achieved for this 23 year of this intoxicating freedom? What can we be proud of? What do our women care for old women or work in brothels? That our men are competing with Polish for the right to pick strawberries in Portugal or with Moldovans to lay tiles in Russia? What we do not have a normal army that can protect us, and now there is no police? And our children are ready to fight with our own sons and fathers from the Golden Eagle? It remains for us to be proud that we are Ukrainians. And this is our only reason for pride? Why are we trying to whitewash the traitors, and make them heroes? Where are our real heroes that the whole world knows? Where is our Shakespeare, Einstein, Gagarin? Anyone who can give us a glimpse, hope and faith? Take a minute from everything and sit in silence. Try to just think where all that we had? Why did we give up our victories? Why did we pick our sores with the famine and sit roar? How can this be inspired, create something and build under such an ideology?
    Wait a minute! But we launched the first satellite! We defeated Napoleon, Hitler, Turks and Swedes, and a bunch of other nationalities and tribes who came to our land! We created the greatest and greatest country in the history of mankind! That we created nuclear power plants and bombs! This was afraid of us yesterday and was respected by the whole world! Where is it now? Where? Why did we refuse to be a great nation and took the fate of the offended? Who stole our history and our victories from us? Russia? ? We allowed ourselves to do this, we ourselves abandoned our memory, our ancestors, feats. They believed in new false idols and heroes. Small and insignificant in comparison with what we had yesterday. Is it possible to compare Gagarin and Bender? In Kiev go ideological guys in masks and with sticks. One part of the people alive burn the other. Shoots at each other. How we allowed it. We again believe in a new revolution, new promises. Why we became miserable, constantly shouting that we are independent and free. The past has been stolen from us, now the remains of the future are being stolen. We teach our children false books of false history. How could this happen to us? What happened?
    1. katastrofa
      katastrofa 8 March 2014 00: 00
      +3
      I envy the Russians, I envy them, "I am a Nazi muzzle, am" and "yam" I envy their Olympics and their army, I have many friends, I also have relatives in Russia. And I see them changing and growing. They trust their President. They believe in their army. They are proud of their great history, their achievements and victories. And this was our common history ... and victories and achievements. Just yesterday. They made peace with themselves. They didn't give a damn about the West we adored. And they go further and develop, so that they do not tell us on our televisions and on our forums. And I understand that it is we who are losing, not they. We are getting weaker and they are getting stronger. And no matter how loudly we shout "Glory to Ukraine!" it cannot be stopped. Quite recently, we were sneering when they had Chechnya. And now the Chechens are no less Russians than the Russians themselves. They are ready to fight for their revived and Great Country. Part of which they are. And they are already scaring us with Chechen battalions. How did it happen ??? They killed each other yesterday. And the reason is simple, the Chechens were able to remember that they are Russians, and that they are part of the Great Country and the Great People.
      We gloat when they have attacks and catastrophes. And they overcome them time after time and become stronger! Although the whole world is against them! They fall and rise again. Stand and lybytsya. They just spit blood through their teeth. And we shout that they are slaves. Soon they will fall apart, oil will fall, NATO will attack, and another punishment will come down on them. But, after all, they are us! We spit in our reflection. In themselves.
      1. katastrofa
        katastrofa 8 March 2014 00: 01
        +5
        We need to remember that we are one. And when we begin to understand and realize this. That feeling will come when it was in our ancestors. A sense of inner strength, hope, faith and pride in the fact that we are also Russians. And it doesn't matter who our ancestors are, Ukrainians, Tatars, Jews, Buryats or Uzbeks. It doesn't matter who we are by faith, Catholics, Orthodox, Muslims or Jews. It is not important. The main thing is that we are Russians! And we are part of the Great People and the Great Country. Yes, our Great Country and Great People still have problems. But if we remember that we are Russians. Everything will change forever! And everyone is afraid of this. To be afraid that we will remember it and be together again. And therefore this web of lies, lies is woven from all sides. All this anger and hatred is supported, both here and in Russia. They keep us from waking up. And if we do not remember who we are, then we will never wake up. Regarding the current situation, occupation and other things. Who is shouting the loudest that we need to defend "our" independence, unity and freedom? The same officials, oligarchs and deputies. They are terribly afraid that they will have to answer for everything that has happened over the years to our Motherland. Or maybe this is not an occupation? Or maybe this is liberation? It came ours, when there was almost no hope left, when we had almost given up. And we need to stand together and destroy all these deceitful politicians, oligarchs, mayors and officials who are foaming at the mouth and shouting that we should go and die! To die for their villas, yachts and castles, for their bank accounts, for their freedom to rob and independence from responsibility for their actions.
        I understand that this manifest will be cut from the Internet. There will be thousands of malicious comments, they will shout that I am a traitor, I have sold myself to Putin, that I, I am a Nazi face, padded jacket and b I do not care. I know the truth is behind me. I am a patriot of Ukraine, a true patriot, and the fate of my people and my Ukraine is being decided. We will either remember who we are or simply disappear. I love my Ukrainian people, my ancestors and my culture. I am Ukrainian, but more than that I am Russian!
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 8 March 2014 00: 10
          +2
          Quote: katastrofa
          I love my Ukrainian people, my ancestors and my culture.

          Let Ukraine wake up. Good to gasp and whine.
          For her.
          drinks
  • macabrekill
    macabrekill 8 March 2014 02: 22
    +2
    Ukraine is guaranteed to join NATO, or rather NATO itself will join it. In order to bring "peace and tranquility" as they were expressed in Vietnam - "pacification". And since 2/3 of the population speaks Russian, 50-60% of the population considers themselves Russian (Soviet, as an option, there is a strong parodox here - a Ukrainian will shout that he is Ukrainian, not Russian, while speaking in Russian, the joke is that he speaks about location, not nationality), then the Angles will turn the Yugoslavian version, when a small ethnic group presents the owner's claims to the whole country, which does not belong to it geographically. That they turned on the Maidan. And now, this group is intensively "absorbed" into the governing bodies in Kiev and regions. The media have already begun to "warm" the population again, after a short pause, to the civil war. On the channels, after the news about the "mean" Russians, they show Soviet films about the Great Patriotic War, then about the crimes of the Golden Eagle, and so on. No information, even close to reality, is given, especially about the fact that Russia, having entered Crimea, actually suspended CUTTING. And the screams about joining NATO, and then the military aid to NATO, is a standard technique of NATO itself, which freezes the pseudo "government" to say whatever.
  • mountaineer
    mountaineer 8 March 2014 02: 42
    0
    Quote: a52333
    there are practically no people willing to become under arms - the announced general mobilization collected in the military commissariats 1,5 percent of the draft contingent.

    but our patriotism goes wild! like Putin’s rating. Benders really got it, but let them not rely on the states, not for that the states in them looted enemas in order to fight by themselves.
  • Alexgs
    Alexgs 8 March 2014 05: 10
    0
    Who are you clowned at. Spit we Yarosh with his Right Sector in one place. Thank you by the way, we are waiting for a visit! Bring this Orc to us .. Bilogo. We’ll bastard him, we will teach him how to do business. There are so many evil Chechens on him)))). Yamal stands on the ears-not against Ukraine. And hammer the last nail into this fascist evil. Grandfathers forgot. We will finish!
    1. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 8 March 2014 09: 14
      +2
      Grandfathers do not slander.
      They did their job.

      And the infection is new from foreign laboratories.
      So even after saving the world about Yarosh, danger will not be ruled out in the future.
      While the bushes and the frames rule the snake continent, fascist clones are inevitable.