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Will there be enough will?

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Will there be enough will?


Here are the guys started!

The arrest of the people's governor, Gubarev, is the first sign in the east, southeast of Ukraine. When the illegal power received impressive moral and political support from the puppeteers, it will act quickly and firmly. No one will drool will not dissolve. The police have already gone over and they don’t care that they are fighting with neighbors and relatives for those who killed their colleagues. They are paid, unlike the people, and they promise to stroke the head if they prove their loyalty to the new government. The right sector is already legalized, trying to enter into power structures. So for the East and South-East have already taken!

And what about Russia? And we, in my opinion, as always ... In general, the moment is lost. Or I'm wrong? Now for all the forceful dispersal of people we will be told that everything is within the framework of the law and the Constitution! Someone against?

I have questions for our government.

1. How are we going to protect Russians and Russian speakers in Ukraine, if no one is listening or hearing us on the opposite side? With the Crimea, and that is not all clear.

2. If we are so unacceptable fascism and Nazism, then why not fight it as with the plague in Ukraine and the Baltic states? At the level of declarations is not considered.

3. Does our government have the will to go to the end, and not to agree with the United States and the EU on the division of interests in Ukraine? Or will we once again swallow what they throw?

4.And the last. Start digging bunkers from NATO troops in the Bryansk, Kursk, Belgorod and Rostov regions? Or is our waiting in the East, the South-East, and indeed in the whole of Ukraine, this is another cunning plan of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin?

Sincerely, Michael P. (mihasik)
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  1. Refund_SSSR
    Refund_SSSR 7 March 2014 07: 18
    +22
    False patriots, how did you get it!
    Under the guise of care and suffering for the Russian state, you are spreading confusion.

    You just sleep and see that our state rushes immediately in all directions and does not succeed anywhere.
    How are we going to defend Russians and Russian speakers in Ukraine if no one listens to us or hears us on the opposite side? With Crimea, and not everything is clear.

    The commonplace phrase of the fifth column ... Everything comes down to one thing: "How are you, not washed savages, are going to talk with the enlightened" world community "." And so we will! POLITELY!
    They said the same thing during the information war 888, but people in Abkhazia and Ossetia, thanks to our boys, live and enjoy life, and your "world community", which also did not listen to us, also had to shut up.
    2. If we are so unacceptable fascism and Nazism, then why not fight it as with the plague in Ukraine and the Baltic states? At the level of declarations is not considered.

    3. Does our government have the will to go to the end, and not to agree with the United States and the EU on the division of interests in Ukraine? Or will we once again swallow what they throw?
    And again the familiar rhetoric about going to the end and about "will there be enough will" ... Haven't we heard this in 2008? And did they not recall Yugoslavia to us then, they say, well you passed then, but now you climbed !?
    1. Horde
      Horde 7 March 2014 07: 26
      +7
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      False patriots, how did you get it!
      Under the guise of care and suffering for the Russian state, you are spreading confusion.


      who are you talking to? what confusion? and generally RETURN the USSR, how are you going to return the USSR?
      1. Horde
        Horde 7 March 2014 07: 29
        +22
        twisted Pavel Gubarev everything happens when people are NOT ARMED to get weapons, shoot such policemen and TAKE POWER IN HAND REALLY ...
        1. Refund_SSSR
          Refund_SSSR 7 March 2014 07: 41
          +9
          Quote: Horde
          twisted Pavel Gubarev everything happens when people are NOT ARMED to get weapons, shoot such policemen and TAKE POWER IN HAND REALLY ...

          And thus completely leave the legal field and fall under the competence of the "world community", "UN with blue helmets" and others like them ?! Yes, this is all they expect from us!
          No, really! Until the 16th, you need to gather all your will into a fist and hold a referendum in a peaceful environment! But after - already act! And act bloodlessly! Capture buildings and military units. Just as the Natsik acted.
          Russian blood should not flow, enough blood from us for more than 20 million lives in the last century!
          But if he lays down, then we will shed more, but it is better to act wisely.

          Sometimes you should think at least two or three steps forward ... Or do you think "polite people" just remain de jure incognito ???
          Funny as children in a manger ... You only need to wave a mace, and then hide under a stone from which you got out and rake it to others.
          1. Horde
            Horde 7 March 2014 08: 09
            +5
            Quote: We refund_SSSR
            And thus completely leave the legal field and fall under the competence of the "world community", "UN with blue helmets" and others like them ?! Yes, this is all they expect from us!


            Enough to drive the "legal field" THEY began to shoot, they twisted Gubarev, so the answer must be adequate and decisive, to seize power such a militia under the knife, and the elections will always be in time, who will be in power such elections and will ...
            1. dmitry_den
              dmitry_den 7 March 2014 09: 06
              +2
              Well, this is the style of Yanukovych .. chewing snot and after making excuses to the world community
              1. Refund_SSSR
                Refund_SSSR 7 March 2014 09: 23
                0
                Quote: Horde
                enough to drive the "legal field" they started shooting

                Quote: dmitry_den
                Well this is the style of Yanukovych .. chewing snot

                I don’t understand something, but what are you both doing here? Why not on the Maidan, why do not beat Natsik with weapons in their hands? Or from the Internet easier about strangers guts speak?
                You are such "brave" guys, I am so "proud" that you are! wassat

                Why develop events according to the bloody version, if even before the start it is clear that this will lead to an absolutely undesirable result?
                1. dmitry_den
                  dmitry_den 7 March 2014 09: 31
                  +2
                  Quote: We refund_SSSR

                  I don’t understand something, but what are you both doing here? Why not on the Maidan, why do not beat Natsik with weapons in their hands? Or is it easier to talk about other people's guts from the Internet?


                  Is it true that the general of the army of divan strategic forces gave a commanding voice?

                  Is it not for you, dear one, to lament our position on this issue? Where were you with your patriots when Burbulis Chubais and Gaidar and Shakhrai brought the drunkard Yeltsin to power? tea not in the kitchen were you talking with a glass of port about the freedom of the Russian people from the "Soviet plague"?

                  What did you forget when you kissed a sucker with a novodvoska and a Germans in the dashing nineties?
                  1. Refund_SSSR
                    Refund_SSSR 7 March 2014 09: 37
                    -4
                    Quote: dmitry_den
                    What did you forget when you kissed a sucker with a novodvoska and a Germans in the dashing nineties?

                    You didn't confuse me with "rear-wheel drive"? wassat
                    Quote: dmitry_den
                    Is it not for you, dear one, to lament our position on this issue? Where were you with your patriots when Burbulis Chubais and Gaidar and Shakhrai brought the drunkard Yeltsin to power? tea not in the kitchen were you talking with a glass of port about the freedom of the Russian people from the "Soviet plague"?
                    And let's not distort from big politics to the household level. I see you also hung a Soviet flag on your avatar .. And where were you when the drunkard ruined the country?
                    Come on, do not drive.

                    And about sofa armies you very much remembered by the way. Just when you call everyone under the banner of a bloody rebellion against tyranny laughing armed with a keyboard ...

                    Do you moo?
                    1. dmitry_den
                      dmitry_den 7 March 2014 09: 59
                      +4
                      Quote: We refund_SSSR

                      You didn't confuse me with "rear-wheel drive"? wassat


                      Do not give the wish for reality, your lip prints on the greasy cheeks of the Novodvorskaya were printed clearly, so the sofa oligarch, wait for your friend Proshka Norilsky to give the brand-new all-wheel drive Yomobile :)))

                      Quote: We refund_SSSR

                      And let's not distort from big politics to the household level.

                      I understand, comrade general .. the question is not very convenient .. I don’t feel like remembering :))


                      Quote: We refund_SSSR

                      I see you also hung a Soviet flag on an avatar ..

                      Yes, this flag is the flag of victory, and not the white-and-red project of your idol Gaidar-Sobchak-Novodvorskaya

                      Quote: We refund_SSSR

                      And where were you when the drunkard ruined the country?


                      He studied at school, watched and carefully remembered how you and your kind passed the country.

                      Quote: We refund_SSSR

                      Come on, do not drive.


                      Drive shit or hydrocarbons. through pipelines. Learn the materiel! :))))

                      Quote: We refund_SSSR

                      And about sofa armies you very much remembered by the way.

                      Oh yeah! I’m Observing .. Your brother, a 91-year-old shit, is clearly distinguished from the crowd on August 21.

                      Quote: We refund_SSSR

                      Just when you call everyone under the banner of a bloody rebellion against tyranny laughing armed with a keyboard

                      I do not call, you surrendered to me with your "oligarchic" Caudle stuck with fat to the sofa :))))

                      Quote: We refund_SSSR

                      Do you moo?


                      Well, you yourself in your pigsty, figure it out to mumble or bleat at the sounds of Gazprom advertising
            2. Terrible ensign
              Terrible ensign 7 March 2014 11: 21
              0
              Gubarev did not knit cops, and the SBUshniki Kiev.
        2. zzz
          zzz 7 March 2014 08: 20
          +5
          March 06 2014
          The leader of the Slavic Guard movement in Ukraine, Vladimir Rogov, was supposed to take part in a press conference in Moscow, but he disappeared that night on the border of Kharkov, said the leader of the For a Clean City movement Ivan Protsenko, correspondent Nakanune.RU reports.

          “Vladimir Rogov drove through Kharkov yesterday, and somewhere on the border his tracks were lost. Now we cannot get in touch with him,” Protsenko said during a press conference on Thursday. He clarified that contact with Rogov disappeared closer to twelve in the morning, when he left Kharkov.
          1. alexdol
            alexdol 7 March 2014 10: 42
            +3
            zzz RU "Vladimir Rogov was driving through Kharkov yesterday, and somewhere on the border his tracks were lost."
            -------------------------------------------------- ------------
            What can I say here: it's just that Bandera's members are acting in the LEGAL field, this is the answer for the citizen "Return_SSSR (3) SU", who is very CARED about the observance of any rules ...
        3. SHILO
          SHILO 7 March 2014 09: 06
          +5
          Quote: Horde
          twisted Pavel Gubarev everything happens when people are NOT ARMED to get weapons, shoot such policemen and TAKE POWER IN HAND REALLY ...


          Horde. Understand. Not so simple. Here, in the East, unlike Galicia, no one was preparing for a power option - there is no infrastructure for protest. The collection of youngsters in Vkontakte is not a revolutionary base. And Gubarev. Gubarev is just a very young boy with inflated ambitions - no more. Such revolutions do not suit. Well it’s really funny to read when under your name Vkontakte people offer to seize the police department, SBU, Taruta, etc. It's all sad recourse .
          1. avt
            avt 7 March 2014 09: 35
            +7
            Quote: SHILO
            Not so simple.

            Yes, scammers from the party of regions divorced you in the East and abandoned you at the hottest moment! But understand correctly, it was certainly easier in the Crimea - the troops were and were a real asset of the Russian world, but if you don’t organize, the GDP will not be able to do anything. He has already voiced this in an interview in public. Just draw attention. First, he said that for him there were several unpleasant surprises in the process of the protest movement, I think it was a question of the leadership of the protest, well, except for Crimea. So it didn’t work out in short, although he raised his troops for maneuvers, but played back and completed earlier than the announced end on March 10. The second and almost verbatim - the troops stand behind the people and let them only try to shoot at the people. GDP will not go first - it will immediately receive the label of the occupier, but it has already received not only from the Schuster and Kolomoisky, but also from Clintonichi. So whatever one may say, but you need to organize on the ground specifically and prepare for the next move.
          2. Horde
            Horde 7 March 2014 14: 46
            +1
            Quote: SHILO
            Horde. Understand. Not so simple. Here, in the East, unlike Galicia, no one was preparing for a violent option - there is no protest infrastructure


            now a UNIQUE CHANCE to create YOUR RUSSIAN STATE without Jews and Bandrovites, this chance may be the last RUSSIAN ...
        4. apostol88
          apostol88 7 March 2014 10: 34
          .
          Gubarev ordinary paid six of the Kremlin. negative
          Nitsche will find another. laughing
          1. Terrible ensign
            Terrible ensign 7 March 2014 11: 35
            +3
            Dear Apostle88, you are welcome from this resource ...
            1. apostol88
              apostol88 7 March 2014 11: 45
              -5
              Dear Scary Warrant Officer laughing , but I do not want to leave this resource. wink
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            3. avt
              avt 7 March 2014 12: 08
              0
              Quote: Scary ensign
              Dear Apostle88, you are welcome from this resource ...

              Yes, let it be, otherwise it will be a completely refined site, especially since it behaves within the limits allowed by the admins. So "politeness" is quite enough, if you don't like it, put a minus, or even better with an argument why.
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      2. domokl
        domokl 7 March 2014 07: 45
        +18
        Dear, what are you proposing? Start shooting? So this is just what everyone is waiting for. The question of dismembering Ukraine has already been resolved positively in the West. They are now really doing everything to speed up this process. And Putin’s main troubles. The troops are standing and GUARDING people. .. Despite the provocation.
        Look at the Crimea. Who took power there? Russian soldiers or residents of the Crimea? Here is the answer. The time for conversations for Ukrainians has passed a long time ... We need to take power in exactly the same way as the maydaunas took it ... We need to fight, arm ourselves. Do not whine that people are not armed, but take how they took. From police warehouses, from warehouses in .h.
        1. Per se.
          Per se. 7 March 2014 08: 09
          +10
          Quote: domokl
          . You need to take power in exactly the same way as the maydaunas took it ...
          Unlike the “maydauns”, the people of the southeastern regions go to work, they don’t carry money in sacks to their rallies, and even the emissaries don’t hand out buns in support. Crimea here is distinguished not only by its geography of the peninsula, but there is our Black Sea Fleet, the pro-Russian majority. It is quite another matter in the South-East of Ukraine, where real support from Russia is needed, and where is it - "The troops are standing and PROTECT people ... Despite the provocations"? The Banderaites were trained and organized long before the Maidan, while we have grandmothers with placards, pensioners ... Should they seize weapons? Time is running out, the initiative is lost, and to pretend that we must abide by the law and not give in to provocations ... The Germans are bombing our cities, what a provocation it is! It was already.
          1. domokl
            domokl 7 March 2014 08: 50
            +6
            Quote: Per se.
            Unlike the "Maydauns", the people of the southeastern regions go to work, they don’t carry money in bags to their rallies, and even the emissaries don’t hand out buns in support

            So it means that the people want to resolve the situation at home ... And then the zapadents are right when they say that it is the lot of these people to work ...
            Pushing Russia into warfare signifies giving the EU and NATO the possibility of completely legitimately introducing their troops into the territory of Ukraine under the auspices of the peacekeeping forces. And this is the Yugoslav version to the fullest. Who will be good from that?
            And about training, and who gets in the way of preparation? Who prevents to conduct training? Who prevents youths from organizing in groups, not the elderly?
            1. zzz
              zzz 7 March 2014 08: 58
              +9
              Quote: domokl
              So it means that the people want to resolve the situation at home ... And then the zapadents are right when they say that it is the lot of these people to work ...


              I repeat again: Maidan was a lot of money from the West, they could afford not to work for months! Behind the Crimea was Russia! And here it’s emptiness ..... And it’s not necessary to insult people with such words who really work - it is immoral. No one asked to send troops there - they asked for help with equipment!
            2. Per se.
              Per se. 7 March 2014 09: 25
              +8
              Quote: domokl
              Pushing Russia into hostilities signifies giving the EU and NATO the possibility of the completely legal introduction of their troops into Ukraine under the auspices of peacekeeping forces.
              In Yugoslavia, Russia did not get involved, did this stop NATO, forced them to remain in the legal field? If the United States has already laid down international law on everything, the introduction of NATO troops and the inclusion of Ukraine in the alliance are inevitable. The protests of the South-East revived when the president asked us for permission to send troops, moreover, in addition to receiving these powers, a request was received from Yanukovych to send troops, still under the law of the legitimate president of Ukraine. Isn't that enough? Finally, we don’t want to introduce an army, who prevents the introduction of the same "soldiers of fortune" that Washington has already sent? Why is there no funding for the resistance, its organization and assistance with instructors and weapons? There are too many questions here, dear domokl, which require not just words, but real actions.
              1. zzz
                zzz 7 March 2014 10: 28
                +3
                Quote: Per se.
                Finally, we don’t want to introduce an army, who is stopping us from introducing the same "soldiers of fortune" that Washington has already sent? Why is there no funding for the resistance, its organization and assistance with instructors and weapons? There are too many questions here, dear domokl, which require not just words, but real actions.


                Thank you for your support!
              2. Terrible ensign
                Terrible ensign 7 March 2014 11: 39
                0
                You can also add: why there are no military corporations such as "blackwaters, erinis, academies" ... Although for a long time a similar topic has been discussed at the top (two years for sure).
            3. Semen Semyonitch
              Semen Semyonitch 7 March 2014 09: 43
              +2
              Quote: domokl
              Who prevents young people from organizing in detachments, not the elderly?

              Young people there are also thoroughly duped ...
            4. sergey32
              sergey32 7 March 2014 09: 49
              +1
              I agree with Domocles. Where to get a weapon? Yes, every tenth, and even the fifth house in the safe saiga, murka, SKS. It is a self-defense weapon and can be used for defense. Gos. a coup is a grave crime, which must be rebuffed, including weapons. Guys in the Donbass, good cc to Bandera!
        2. Horde
          Horde 7 March 2014 08: 11
          +4
          Quote: domokl
          Dear, what do you suggest? Start shooting


          usually those who shoot, as they do not wait or run away, or resist, and in general, AUTHORITY DO NOT GIVE AUTHORITY, ONLY TAKE ...
          1. domokl
            domokl 7 March 2014 08: 44
            +2
            Quote: Horde

            usually those who shoot, as they do not wait or run away, or resist, and in general, AUTHORITY DO NOT GIVE AUTHORITY, ONLY TAKE ...

            I wonder how your comment differs from mine? Meeting? So it's on the square.
            We are now talking about the eastern regions of UKRAINE, not Russia. So, citizens of Ukraine should take power ... And the intervention of Russian citizens is called in the language of international law-interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 7 March 2014 10: 02
              +1
              Quote: domokl
              And the intervention of Russian citizens is called in the language of international law-interference in the internal affairs of a sovereign state
              Hello Sasha. hi You can intervene in a different way, both financially and materially and technically. Pendos around the world are doing this, so why don’t we help with the organization of armed resistance with the requirements of a nationwide referendum and federal structure of Ukraine? I am sure that in the same Donetsk and Kharkov there are a lot of people who are ready to defend their interests, you only need to help. hi
          2. dmitry_den
            dmitry_den 7 March 2014 09: 04
            +3
            Quote: Horde
            usually those who shoot, as they do not wait or run away, or resist, and in general, AUTHORITY DO NOT GIVE AUTHORITY, ONLY TAKE ...


            Paraphrasing comrade Ulyanov Lenin:

            "Any resistance is only worth something if it knows how to defend itself."

            PS
            To enter the RF Armed Forces, we need a reason, as it was in South Ossetia - the death of several hundred Russian citizens. Otherwise, it makes no sense to arrange GDP in Ukraine, because it is not in his interests to create problems for his hydrocarbon business. It is necessary to feed and otmazyvat their friends such as Serdyukov, to teach children of their environment in European schools and universities, to finance the shopping of their wives and whores
        3. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 7 March 2014 08: 19
          +7
          domokl (2)
          Dear, what do you suggest? Start shooting? So this is just what everyone is waiting for ...


          Why shoot and send troops?
          There are other options for supporting the Russian-speaking population of the South-East of a crumbling Ukraine.
          For example, the actions of special forces of Russia. Moreover, the United States has already sent its mercenaries to help Bandera.
          Special forces operate without an official announcement of the beginning of their operations, without a flag of affiliation, against Bandera and mercenaries and will be able to provide significant assistance to the militia of the South-East of Ukraine to neutralize Bandera, bandits and mercenaries.
          We also need financial assistance to the resistance organizations of the Southeast, we need weapons.
          Need to help the resistance of the people without military assistance, so that people believe that Russia will not leave them. Shake the passive part of the Russian-speaking population into resistance and their own self-defense from the Nazis of Bandera.
          This is in the interests of not only the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine, it is in the interests of Russia itself: who will be our enemy or friend.
        4. zzz
          zzz 7 March 2014 08: 28
          +6
          Quote: domokl
          . You need to take power in exactly the same way as the maydaunas took it ... You need to fight, arm yourself. Do not whine that people are not armed, but take how they took. From police warehouses, from military depots.



          In many ways, I agree. Only now Maidan financed the West, and even how it financed! Therefore, without money, you can’t take power from the oligarchs! And here is our government, I believe it is not behaving correctly. Well, he will spend several million, but he will receive half of Ukraine. And now in the Donbass munch-criminal! He asked: -we have people-help financially !!!!!!!!!! Wait until all the leaders are killed!
          1. domokl
            domokl 7 March 2014 08: 55
            +3
            Quote: zzz
            Only now Maidan financed the West, and even how it financed! Therefore, without money, you cannot take power from the oligarchs

            Standing ala maidan now does not pass ... Maiduns are not Yanukovych and will use force. So there is no special need for funding .. Seizure of power, decision-making and referendum are needed ... In this case, at the request of parliament, Russian troops will enter the region and will be a shield .
            1. zzz
              zzz 7 March 2014 09: 01
              +1
              Quote: domokl
              Standing ala maidan now does not pass ... Maiduns are not Yanukovych and will use force. So there is no special need for funding .. Seizure of power, decision-making and referendum are needed ... In this case, at the request of parliament, Russian troops will enter the region and will be a shield .


              Correctly! Only someone had to tell him this!
        5. Orik
          Orik 7 March 2014 09: 05
          +3
          Quote: domokl
          Dear, what are you proposing? Start shooting? So this is just what everyone is waiting for. The question of dismembering Ukraine has already been resolved positively in the West. They are now really doing everything to speed up this process. And Putin’s main troubles. The troops are standing and GUARDING people. .. Despite the provocation.
          Look at the Crimea. Who took power there? Russian soldiers or residents of the Crimea? Here is the answer. The time for conversations for Ukrainians has passed a long time ... We need to take power in exactly the same way as the maydaunas took it ... We need to fight, arm ourselves. Do not whine that people are not armed, but take how they took. From police warehouses, from warehouses in .h.

          Why do you think you need "polite people"? The Russian movement in Ukraine is a small group, all the years of independence it has been rotten by the authorities, there are no resources, no training, no technology, no organization. Now come on, come on naked ... on the machine gun, try to take a warehouse with weapons if those who guard are not on your side.
          What we see is the maximum possible from the Russians in Ukraine, now our question is choice.
        6. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 7 March 2014 09: 39
          +1
          Quote: domokl
          . You need to take power in exactly the same way as the maydaunas took it ...


          We need a popular revolt of tens of thousands, not amorphous protests, but RUNT, meaningful and merciless. And the leader is needed EXTRAORDINARY (but with a cool head), and not like this kid who babbled something indistinctly before being arrested. But when they begin to twist the hands of the people, then there will be every reason to provide fraternal assistance. And then the police will "remember" that they are for the people.
      3. Ross
        Ross 7 March 2014 10: 58
        +2
        Many friends such moods arose, it is not False patriots! No need to hang up labels right away. This, unfortunately, is a decline in spirit. And now it is SPIRIT, the Russian unbending spirit that we all need to support, because whoever has the Strongest Spirit wins. For thousands of years, our ancestors fell into such situations - when everything seemed to end. But it was the Russian unbending Spirit that always helped to win the Victory. History is often repeated, so we will be worthy of our great ancestors - Svyatoslav the Brave, Alexander Nesky, Suvorov and Kutuzov, Skobelev and Brusilov and our grandfathers and fathers-winners of the Second World War. We will not let us be discouraged! Truth and honor are with us, so it is VICTORY with us.
    2. Sergh
      Sergh 7 March 2014 07: 28
      +8
      Quote: We refund_SSSR
      how did you get

      Don’t say it, bro!
      That’s why Putin should wipe shop for every overlooked one? One, two, but not all the same time! At least you can che-thread yourself? Well, show what you are capable of, or can you only let green bubbles from your nose? Well, by golly, like a bar ,,, sorry children, just give a suck a tit, no longer able to. Take weapons, go into the woods or something, shout at the shout to the whole world that they are killing you, cutting you, well, show me a hint of resistance. And sitting at home on the stove is cool ...
      I beg your pardon for being rude.
      1. Horde
        Horde 7 March 2014 07: 33
        0
        Quote: Sergh
        That’s why Putin should wipe shop for every overlooked one?


        Now it becomes clear who there is ... oh, not to everyone crap, but to help the Russians, only I can say this clearly ...
        1. Refund_SSSR
          Refund_SSSR 7 March 2014 07: 47
          -1
          Is there a day off in kindergarten?
        2. Sergh
          Sergh 7 March 2014 07: 48
          +12
          Quote: Horde
          now it’s clear who is ... uh

          I, my brother, are a native inhabitant of Siberia, we are armed here and all hunters, and it is advisable not to pester us, which many do. Ask yourself why only in the western part of Russia they are rebelling, and in our side everything is always calm ..., and at the beginning of my post you will find the answer.
          And no one refuses to help, as you say, I repeat and ask who needs help, if the people in Ukraine are satisfied with any power, only a small handful has risen? Learn from the Crimeans, even ask the Syrians for advice, so they immediately got help, and the rest in the queue, Russia is not rubber.
          And do not scatter such phrases anymore, you are still small.
          1. Horde
            Horde 7 March 2014 08: 13
            0
            Quote: Sergh
            I, brother, are a native inhabitant of Siberia, we are armed here and all hunters, and it’s advisable not to pester us, which many do


            YOU DO NOT BROTHER ME, I also lived and worked in Tomsk and I know that the people there are not as frostbitten as you, but are keenly worried about the Russians, the MOTHERLAND ...
            if the people in Ukraine are satisfied with any power, only a small handful has risen

            WHAT ARE YOU TALKING IN DONETS AND CRIMEA, AND Kharkov Kharkov THOUSAND CROPS ARE OUT ...
            1. Walk
              Walk 7 March 2014 08: 21
              +2
              And where are these crowds now when it is necessary to really protect the chosen people's governor? Would stand up for his defense - no one would have arrested him so easily.
              1. Horde
                Horde 7 March 2014 08: 26
                +2
                Quote: Walk
                And where are these crowds now when it is necessary to really protect the chosen people's governor? Would stand up for his defense - no one would have arrested him so easily.


                YES THE CROWD IS A CROWD, but now why do you lower your hands and wait until they click one by one? this is not the end, for Gubarev STEAD ...
                1. zzz
                  zzz 7 March 2014 08: 51
                  +2
                  Quote: Horde
                  YES THE CROWD IS A CROWD, but now why do you lower your hands and wait until they click one by one? this is not the end, for Gubarev STEAD ...


                  He was taken to Kiev too quickly. Last night, his supporters in Donetsk tried to free Paul. But there are specialists! And the people need a coordinator, the communication there is completely blocked, how to quickly inform without communication what to do, where to go, etc. AS? But banderlogs have walkie-talkies, and they work on their own. They have all the GUD!
            2. Sergh
              Sergh 7 March 2014 08: 27
              0
              Quote: Horde
              YOU DO NOT BROTHER ME, I also lived and worked in Tomsk and I know that the people there are not as frostbitten as you

              Come on, Tomich ... besides, you’re also stupid.
              That's it, the conversation is over with you.
            3. Terrible ensign
              Terrible ensign 7 March 2014 11: 44
              0
              In which regiment did he serve? .. Or, as an option, on which box? Why didn’t they teach you to politely talk with people? ..
          2. Navy7981
            Navy7981 7 March 2014 10: 00
            +2
            Just instinctive wisdom you have more there.
            Yes, and all kinds of NPOs are not interested in sitting there because of the simplicity of their souls and their faces. I respect you.
            And I agree. The southeast except Crimea has neither leaders nor a leader who, by their actions, would give a tiny chance, a minimal chance of any kind of reaction. The crowd does not solve anything !!!
        3. domokl
          domokl 7 March 2014 07: 51
          +7
          Quote: Horde
          , not to everyone crap, but to help the Russians, it’s clear I can only say nerus ...

          It is HELP, and not an occupation ... And they help when they give something. Again I refer to the Crimea ... And if only the talking room and not the ability of even the chosen governor to protect, then whom to help? Who to protect?
          With all the rhetoric of the West regarding the relations between Russia and Ukraine, we still don’t hear the words occupation, annexation, etc. There are no bargaining chips with the West. But interference in internal affairs will become, as we correctly write, Back to the USSR, a trump card that will allow us to introduce sanctions against Russia are already under the auspices of the UN, and this, in turn, will make the type government of Ukraine legitimate.
          1. Horde
            Horde 7 March 2014 08: 17
            +2
            Quote: domokl
            It is HELP, not an occupation ...


            but we don’t occupy it, TAKE our RUSSIAN, THIS is our RUSSIAN EARTH our grandfathers and ancestors shed their blood here, and WE WILL NOT PLAY ON ANOTHER LAW ...
            1. domokl
              domokl 7 March 2014 08: 58
              +4
              Quote: Horde
              but we don’t occupy it, TAKE our RUSSIAN,

              Russia recognized the territorial integrity of Ukraine. So there is nothing Russian in Ukraine. There is Ukrainian. Demagogy and international law are completely different concepts ...
              1. Horde
                Horde 7 March 2014 14: 56
                0
                Quote: domokl
                Russia recognized the territorial integrity of Ukraine. So there is nothing Russian in Ukraine. There is Ukrainian. Demagogy and international law are completely different concepts ...


                then it was not RUSSIA that recognized the Yeltsin gang, therefore
                ALL CONTRACTS ABOUT UKRANINA VALID by the way there is an example of Kosovo, Grenada, Syria, do not care about the contract, when there RUSSIAN ...
        4. Terrible ensign
          Terrible ensign 7 March 2014 11: 43
          0
          Less emotions! .. And even for the market you can answer.
      2. And Us Rat
        And Us Rat 7 March 2014 08: 39
        +10
        Quote: Sergh
        Quote: We refund_SSSR
        how did you get

        Don’t say it, bro!
        That’s why Putin should wipe shop for every overlooked one? One, two, but not all the same time! At least you can che-thread yourself? Well, show what you are capable of, or can you only let green bubbles from your nose? Well, by golly, like a bar ,,, sorry children, just give a suck a tit, no longer able to.

        And it’s true, one of our intelligence analysts said - “The main difficulty for Putin in Ukraine is the inertia of the main body of society, instead of clinging to every straw stretched out (although they have already been given a log from Russia) they sit on the fifth point and they expect that "Uncle Putin" will do all the hard work for them, for so long the southeast did not even bother to nominate a coherent ONE leader to counterbalance the "authorities from the Maidan." The Kremlin is literally forced to "by the handle" send a few activists to the necessary steps. the future of Ukraine, for objective geopolitical reasons, is inextricably linked with Russia, the general forget that the salvation of the drowning, first of all, is the work of the drowning themselves. "
        Moreover, the pro-Western part does not want to understand that Europe will not give them money without guarantees of economic return, and without Russian discounts on oil and gas, Ukrainian production will become unprofitable and collapse. Putin, in turn, sooner or later may get tired of "pulling on his back" to save a politically infantile region, and he may well consider it more far-sighted to throw this burden on the economically unstable shoulders of the West, in the expectation that the West will not pull out or, more likely, will not want pulling out this burden, and Ukraine (at least the southeast), having taken a dare, will wake up at last and they themselves will come to bow to the Kremlin, already having in their hands a clear plan for their own salvation from the final slide "into the pit", and a sincere desire to cooperate ...
        1. Terrible ensign
          Terrible ensign 7 March 2014 11: 49
          +1
          Wonderful post, comrade. And Us! Thank. Greetings from the Urals to the Promised Land.
    3. rasputin17
      rasputin17 7 March 2014 08: 02
      +2
      Ukrainian special forces still broke into the Crimea. This became clear from the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine. It is officially confirmed that the reconnaissance and sabotage company of the 25 Dnepropetrovsk Airborne Brigade is blocked in the village of Perevalnoye. Here, halfway from Simferopol to Alushta, the garrison of the 36th Navy Coastal Defense Brigade is located.

      It is not known when and how the Dnepropetrovsk paratroopers appeared in Perevalnoye. However, another thing is much more interesting - they arrived in Crimea with full ammunition, ready for the force suppression of the "separatists".
      1. Walk
        Walk 7 March 2014 08: 17
        +2
        Is it again only from reports of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine, or are there any other sources? And then recently they have said a lot of things.
      2. Sergh
        Sergh 7 March 2014 08: 19
        +1
        Quote: rasputin17
        Crimea with full ammunition, ready for the power suppression of the "separatists".

        I will say more, "Berkut", together with the troops of Russia, the Crimean militia, all together and with weapons and our equipment stand at Perekop and other transitions from the north of Ukraine to the Crimea, completely blocking the passages and driveways. There the flight and reconnaissance of the terrain by our military helicopter aviation (MI-35) begins with a full outboard ammo, which arrived three to four days ago. Well, and a lot more chago.
        1. rasputin17
          rasputin17 7 March 2014 09: 18
          0
          I mean that the situation itself is already lousy starting to take shape, I am sure that Crimeans with such support will defend their sovereignty. The fact is that if at least one shot from any side sounds, European PR specialists will bring down everything that happens in one pile making it a cesspool in which they will try to ruin Russia !!
          1. And Us Rat
            And Us Rat 7 March 2014 09: 50
            +1
            Quote: rasputin17
            The fact is that if at least one shot from any side sounds, European PR specialists will bring down everything that happens in one pile making it a cesspool in which they will try to plow Russia !!

            They will certainly, we are a good example, and I really want to have rich experience in this.
            1. rasputin17
              rasputin17 7 March 2014 10: 26
              +1
              Exactly!!!!! Precisely noticed so everything will be !!!
      3. Terrible ensign
        Terrible ensign 7 March 2014 11: 51
        0
        Throw a link to the resource, dear! You are welcome...
    4. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. 7 March 2014 09: 58
      0
      And where are the people of the Southeast, here the people of Crimea have decided their question, but you need to tear up the police and the SBU, just tear up, to say specifically whether you are dreaming or against us, you need one hundred or two hundred thousand people to go out onto the street, then one policeman, a military man, a rapper will not dare to raise his hand, and we will help, do not sit at home, go out and decide.
    5. mihasik
      7 March 2014 10: 12
      0
      Draw parallels in analogies is your right. I shared my opinion on the basis of what I see and read in OUR media, as well as what people from Ukraine say. If you think
      You just sleep and see that our state rushes in all directions at once and doesn’t succeed anywhere
      then there is nothing for people to give hope THERE and HERE! And the false patriots, as you put it, yell from the screens of the media about universal support and nothing more. So who makes worse !?
      And again the familiar rhetoric about going to the end and about "will there be enough will" ... Haven't we heard this in 2008? And did they not recall Yugoslavia to us then, they say, well you passed then, but now you climbed !?
      There is no need to go to the ram, but also to Letka-Enka. In general, if you haven't noticed, in my essay there are more questions than statements.
    6. Terrible ensign
      Terrible ensign 7 March 2014 11: 23
      0
      I agree, you are a plus! ..
    7. Thompson
      Thompson 7 March 2014 12: 22
      0
      Where are the false patriots? People are worried and worried. We do not need the whole world, we would have to figure it out at hand. They did not politely understand us then, in 2008, or now. Therefore, it is necessary to do as then and then politely silent. And let them digest. Then we fought with the idiot, now it’s more difficult, there are more of them and with a fascist bias. And they ask correctly, when will we begin to fight the awakening fascists and not demagogy, but business?
  2. operator35
    operator35 7 March 2014 07: 19
    +3
    should be enough — my personal opinion — Vladimir Vladimirovich would not start anything if he weren’t confident in his abilities and capabilities — he understands that now his reputation is at stake before the people and if he is chickened, he will get the same in the end ....
  3. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 7 March 2014 07: 19
    +5
    So it seems to me - we started to give up positions. The protest movement of the East begins to choke. If Russia ignores the arrest of the "people's governor", this will be a clear message to the Kiev authorities - do what you want - you will get nothing for it: (((
    1. operator35
      operator35 7 March 2014 07: 27
      +2
      Quote: Riperbahn
      So it seems to me - we started to give up positions. The protest movement of the East begins to choke. If Russia ignores the arrest of the "people's governor", this will be a clear message to the Kiev authorities - do what you want - you will get nothing for it: (((

      You say so, as if we started this protest movement and quit ...
      Crimea officially turned to us, which prevents us from doing the same here, and "people in military uniform without insignia" will also be guarded ... I don't see any special desire in this region !!!
      1. Riperbahn
        Riperbahn 8 March 2014 06: 45
        0
        That's the thing ... As it is not sad to admit, IMHO, the East is trying to sit on two chairs. And to distance oneself from the Kiev authorities and Russia not to ask for anything, so as not to be in debt. It seems like the Zahiden’s are not friends and Mos.kali are not comrades :(
    2. stroporez
      stroporez 7 March 2014 07: 40
      +2
      Quote: Riperbahn
      If Russia ignores the arrest of the "people's governor", this will be a clear message to the Kiev authorities - do what you want - you will get nothing for it (((
      so it is. Pay attention --- they accused him of their own crimes ........ like a "switchman" ........
  4. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 7 March 2014 07: 21
    +6
    from the Don.
    We are trying to act with banderlogs within the framework of the law. What laws? They are unpunished, enter into a rage and understand only power! Already to the governors of the border regions there are threats. We swallow? We’ll trample over? The war is against us!
  5. Name
    Name 7 March 2014 07: 24
    +4
    ALARMIST! Have already read the comments about "inaction", therefore to the AUTHOR, in the words of the GDP:Russia reserves the right to protect the interests of the Russian-speaking population in the east and south of Ukraine if the inhabitants of the region are in real danger.


    [b] Pessimism is a view of life in which:

    a person sees primarily minuses, not pluses. "The glass is half empty ..."
    the prospects are expected to be less attractive than they are now,
    seen, accounted for and miscalculated primarily negative scenarios. [/ B]
    1. stroporez
      stroporez 7 March 2014 07: 43
      +3
      Quote: name
      The person sees in the first place the minuses, not the pluses. "The glass is half empty ..."
      But what do those who stupidly see half a glass of water do? not half empty or full, but just half a glass ... ... which ones do you take this ??
      1. Name
        Name 7 March 2014 08: 02
        +1
        Quote: stroporez
        just half a glass

        Just half a glass, is REALIST! ... Want from encyclopedias:
        The medieval philosophical scholastic doctrine, the opposite of nominalism, believed that general concepts precede things and lead a real existence regardless of things
        see http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ushakov/1101175
        You want this:
    2. Tatarus
      Tatarus 7 March 2014 08: 37
      +1
      A pessimist cries all the time in a vest. An optimist prefers to cry in a bra.
  6. Humpty
    Humpty 7 March 2014 07: 27
    +6
    "And the last thing. To start digging bunkers from NATO troops in the Bryansk, Kursk, Belgorod and Rostov regions? Or is our waiting in the East, South-East, and throughout Ukraine, this is another clever plan of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin?"

    Don’t panic Misha, liberals In Russia they will not hang. And if there is nothing to occupy yourself with, then take a shovel and dig a bunker for yourself, God help.
    1. mihasik
      7 March 2014 12: 34
      0
      You already somehow decide which brand is to hang)). I'm a patriot, I'm a false patriot and I'm liberal as they write here. What a personality disorder)))
  7. Sunjar
    Sunjar 7 March 2014 07: 28
    +5
    Who wants everything at once, he will receive them * I and a little bit. It is also important that on the ground the people who do not want to live under the yoke of the Nazis, fascists and other evil spirits, also themselves do not sit exactly on the pope and do not expect Russia's exceptional intervention in their affairs. The March 16 referendum will be held over the accession of several subjects of Ukraine to Russia. They will join in and then the furious scum can be crushed to the full, legally. Russia has recently positioned itself as a state that respects international agreements and legal acts, and if right now Russia begins to actively act to eliminate all scum, the West will immediately announce that Russia is acting according to double standards. Now they are screaming like piglets, but there is no sense in this screech, because they have the stigmas themselves in the cannon.

    I repeat once again, they lifted Russia up to blame for all their problems, but with a shekhera almost demand support from it, both financial and military. Resist yourself. What can Russia do at the moment to help Ukraine?
  8. siberalt
    siberalt 7 March 2014 07: 30
    +6
    In give! Well, how to come, win, elect power and take food? It’s not sickly. And what then endured three months of the Maidan?
  9. rasputin17
    rasputin17 7 March 2014 07: 32
    -8
    The author is right! The beginning has already been made in the East and now everything begins to flow smoothly towards the Crimea! The situation is already getting out of the control of GDP and it can now be resolved only by force! or they will bend us all by force, but a little later when the current not legitimate government gives up the country to NATO with all that it implies. And the gaze of the whole people is focused on the reaction of the Kremlin, but it is slow and waiting for something. I fear only this power cowardice! Once we saw how, due to his cowardice, our flagship of the 9th squadron of the 7th submarine division of the KSF fell to the bottom! And as a result of this cowardice, all of Russia can lie under NATO !!
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 7 March 2014 08: 06
      +4
      Quote: rasputin17
      And the gaze of the whole people is focused on the reaction of the Kremlin, but it is slow and waiting for something. I fear only one thing is power cowardice

      Why are you all fighting in a panic? What the hell is NATO doing here? In Ukraine, no scumbag, except bandyukov will not climb, and we learned to destroy bandyukov. Slowly, but surely, without a squeak and a squeal, everything will be fine. And the victims of the governors, well, I think they will be needed, sadly enough, have to endure, if they themselves were torn to pieces, let the world look and be sure to see for sure who is in power in Ukraine.
      Don’t get the men, after the 16th you’ll see for yourself.
  10. v53993
    v53993 7 March 2014 07: 33
    +4
    If we tolerate what this scum is already doing in Donetsk, then tomorrow they will be announced in Rostov-on-Don. There is a stone's throw.
    1. rasputin17
      rasputin17 7 March 2014 07: 40
      +2
      Moreover, another Caucasus will appear near us, but with banderlogs and other scum !! And we’ll start to read about the Bandera trail in the reports about the attacks !!!
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 7 March 2014 07: 42
      +7
      Quote: v53993
      If we tolerate what this scum is already doing in Donetsk, then tomorrow they will be announced in Rostov-on-Don

      And the people of Donetsk, what has been done with a finger or is waiting for the Russians to endure being bored? Many at home have weapons, they took it in their hands and forth, they didn’t sit at home.
      1. stayer
        stayer 7 March 2014 09: 58
        +1
        I also do not understand the position of the South East. Why do they think that Putin shouldfor them to take power and drive Bandera?
        With regards to the victims. They will certainly be. It just so happened in history that someone needs 3 victims to overthrow, someone a hundred, and someone only millions will raise.
        Everything is in your hands, Ukrainians. And help and support will be right away.

        PS. Many in the Southeast are repelled by the idea of ​​joining the structure of Russia. But they can’t stand the fascists either. Well, be defined as autonomy.
    3. Kazakh
      Kazakh 7 March 2014 07: 42
      +5
      then tomorrow they will be announced in Rostov-on-Don.
      For us, this would be an ideal option and an adequate response would be to the manifestation of external aggression. And in the east it’s clear that they haven’t matured yet and haven’t come to them polite. And without asking to climb the same (MAKAROV) I’ll come up and say you are occupying us.
  11. shibi
    shibi 7 March 2014 07: 39
    +9
    And why should Putin fly and help?
    And where is the people themselves, who cannot defend one person?
    Why can't the Orient follow the path of the Maydan people and assign armed guards to each of their leaders?
    Here are the bandits of FSUs, they’re at least where with their gang, at least they’re glad for the meeting, at least they are rushing into the prosecutor’s office.
    So give them a snot!
    Ukrainians themselves must, according to the example of the Crimea, create their own security brigades, and not wait when they come and they will be freed from the oppression of the banderlogs.
    A rolling stone gathers no moss.
  12. dojjdik
    dojjdik 7 March 2014 07: 45
    +4
    now we have to wait until the fake Ukrainian government will get money from the Americans; Yarosh will be the last sucker if he agrees to 15 billion - and after all, at first they offered 35; then cut off gas to these areas and Poland (I don’t know what Merkel is trying to persuade Putin about) and do not forget about the coast of Syria - to hell with them and not Iranian gas
  13. Neophyte
    Neophyte 7 March 2014 07: 45
    +1
    There will be a holiday on our street! Deterioration of life of the population according to the IMF plan
    and the actions of Kiev, will inevitably cause a surge of discontent in Ukraine.
    In the meantime, we see opponents of Bandera on one square, and on another
    supporters, the result is fig. Patience and the enemy will be defeated!
    To all the supporters of Paul - our so far moral support!
  14. Kazakh
    Kazakh 7 March 2014 07: 45
    +4

    But what about Russia? And we, in my opinion, as always ... In general, the moment is missed.
    Of course, Mikhail P, you know better both your intelligence and diplomats and analysts, and Putin, well, Putin sits in the Kremlin and doesn’t even look at the news and doesn’t answer your calls. And you would be advised I have no doubt.
  15. Magadan
    Magadan 7 March 2014 07: 51
    +5
    This is such a primitive propaganda move - to make us angry against Putin, Lavrov, etc., and the Ukrainians start singing about how "Russia does not care about you." Will not work. In the South-East, everything is just beginning. And it is necessary to act against specific local deputies, which turns out, the junta was recognized: (however copied)

    ..... Either you recognized the Kiev rebellion, or you remained a deputy. To ask the deputies which of them recognizes the current Kiev government is a matter of ten minutes.
    To nominate candidates from the people for their vacant mandates is also short-lived.

    This is the only completely legal behavior. The Kiev junta is illegitimate? Yes. Is President Yanukovych legitimate? Yes.
    If local authorities, against the will of the people, try to negotiate with armed rebels, does this give the people the right to remove them? Of course.
    Does the people have the right to choose the authorities that will express their position? This is generally the basis of the Constitution.

    After that, the real people's deputies pass a resolution stating that the Kiev authorities will not be recognized, they ask Crimea for help, and Yanukovych, whatever he is, is still their president. He, in turn, is happy to approve the popular candidate for the peak of the junta, and Russia includes the region in the assistance program.

    AND DO NOT NEED SEPARATISM. Why go to jail? Just change deputies to those who replace local collaborators-governors
    1. Sergh
      Sergh 7 March 2014 08: 12
      +2
      Quote: Magadan
      and Yanukovych, whatever he is, is still their president.

      Magadan, you say it right! Right now, you need to play Yanukovych, even if it's homogeneous, but you need to switch the arrows to legitimacy and fight for it until help comes up. I’m tired of explaining it already, but the language erased to the gums.
  16. shibi
    shibi 7 March 2014 07: 58
    +6
    Some argue, like that general from Fedot the Sagittarius:
    "I would have a saber, but a horse! Yes, to the line of fire! ...
    And palace intrigues are not for me ...


    And then it turns out
    -And the culprit is the General! Intriguer and immoral !.
    It was he, with an ewon saber, that he dumbed the honor of the Tsar!
    1. tambourine 2012
      tambourine 2012 7 March 2014 08: 11
      +1
      Some argue, like that general from Fedot the Sagittarius:
      "I would have a saber, but a horse! Yes, to the line of fire! ...
      And palace intrigues are not for me ...

      And then it turns out
      -And the culprit is the General! Intriguer and immoral !.
      It was he, with an ewon saber, that he dumbed the honor of the Tsar!
      + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
  17. mountain
    mountain 7 March 2014 08: 05
    +4
    And, as always, with Russian sweat and blood, we will create ideal conditions for our sisters and brothers while they are busy with their daily affairs. Little Russians, wake up and think about where you are being pulled.
    1. Kahlan amnell
      Kahlan amnell 7 March 2014 09: 21
      +1
      For the Ukrainians to wake up from the dope, which will block their minds, they need to face a harsh reality. Few things sober up the mind from all sorts of fumes like hunger, cold, illness, and death, not somewhere on the other side of the globe, but in your own home.
      In the meantime, it seems to me like Ukrainians in nat. fury trotting toward the edge of the abyss. Many sighted people want to get out of this crowd, but not all can. So they run to the abyss along with the rest, trampling the fallen.
      Historical processes so that they are empty.
  18. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha 7 March 2014 08: 20
    +2
    The day before yesterday I was just reading the following thought about Gubarev: that this is a smart person, with will and strength. But he just does not know what to do next. And in this vein, he urgently needs help.
    1. Walk
      Walk 7 March 2014 08: 35
      +1
      In my opinion, it was necessary a week ago to convene a popular council and raise the issue of confidence in the Maydanuta, fascist authorities and the status of territories for a referendum. And it would not hurt to have a national squad for protection.
  19. Egoza
    Egoza 7 March 2014 08: 22
    +1
    Come on! I've found out on the Internet .... Something about this is now "remembered"
    In 2010, Kharkov astrologer Elena Maximova painted a rather gloomy picture of the future of the country. In her opinion, Ukraine in its current form will cease to exist in 2013. The astrologer, whose forecast was reprinted by almost all Ukrainian media three years ago, stated that the state of Ukraine within its current borders would last only 22 years and eight months, then a split would ensue. Such areas as Lugansk, Donetsk, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov, Crimea and the Black Sea region are likely to be part of Russia, although they will retain autonomy. The new territorial unit, according to Maximova, will receive a new name. The rest of the regions will remain Ukraine. The state will have a new president - a man who at the time of writing the forecast (2010) did not occupy key positions in politics.
    XXXX
    Well, a bit wrong with the dates! In astrology, a couple of months there - a couple of months here - does not play a special role. So it remains to see ... maybe it will come true! In 2010, no one could have imagined such performances in Crimea, but on you!laughing
    1. Name
      Name 7 March 2014 08: 42
      +1
      Quote: Egoza
      Well, a bit wrong with the dates!

      Elena, hello, with the Coming! love I remember your predictions about the 2014 year for Ukraine, -You can be trusted!
  20. morpogr
    morpogr 7 March 2014 08: 49
    +1
    In the east, it is necessary to create pro-Russian NGOs, to engage in youth, to invite military patriotic to training camps, to give the opportunity to study in Russia. To conduct propaganda among the population through the media. We must prepare people in the east, as they did with the zapadents, but only in a very short time so that they can organize themselves and take power into their own hands now when the new illegitimate government puts the people in a debt hole, it's time to act.
  21. Smoke
    Smoke 7 March 2014 08: 52
    +1
    I think that it’s time for Putin to switch to tougher methods - since the Nazis arrested Gubarev, then it’s time to carry out a special operation and take out the citizens of Ukraine Muzychko, Yarosh, Tyagnibokov, Yatsenyuk, Klitschko for investigation and trial. Cover the whole gang at once.
  22. dmb
    dmb 7 March 2014 08: 53
    +1
    "Nobody will give us deliverance, not God, not a tsar and not a hero" - all the same, the correct words in the International. Gubarev's arrest speaks volumes. First, and most importantly, just as our propaganda was mediocre, it remained so. "The east of Ukraine is united in its desire to kiss the Russian brothers." And he is not alone. If Crimea is about Russian, so it acts, and in Donetsk (as one of the commentators, complaining about the lack of Russian aid, rightly noted), there are only pensioners and grandmothers with placards, And where were your men when your leader was captured by a dozen cops. Just don’t tell about the Bandera people who have come in large numbers. There are still fewer of them than you, who live there, and you could create a resistance organization for 20 years. And you, like ours ... decided to pray for Putin. Nothing will come of it. Putin will act in a way that is beneficial to the group whose interests he represents. They will be interested in confrontation with the West, tomorrow we will send troops not only to Donetsk, but also to Zanzibar, there will be no, but you fail with your Slavic brotherhood, the loot is at stake, and you are about spiritual bonds.
  23. NikoEro
    NikoEro 7 March 2014 08: 54
    +2
    Guys, I came home late last night and I didn’t read any news before that all day, and I read the main one: The Parliament of Crimea about the entry of Crimea into Russia. For me it was incredible news, too fast, too forced ... but this is only at first glance. I believe that this is a step that will allow the eastern regions to see how this precedent can be achieved through mutual politeness. I hope the GDP does not leave the East, which is amorphous - but is fighting against those who have more money and patrons. Rather, 16, and there we will already help the Slavs in Kharkov, Donetsk, Zaporozhye and other large cities in eastern Ukraine. The main thing is to have time. It takes a little time. Please bear with your brothers, yesterday in Saratov I participated in support of the Crimea and the East, believe me - the Russian people are one and will not leave you!
  24. Stanislas
    Stanislas 7 March 2014 09: 06
    +1
    Putin explained that in this situation, our army can be with the people of the south-east of Ukraine only behind their backs. Not hiding, not even covering the rear, but protecting the people, which are formally considered citizens of the neighboring state, is now only possible. If someone decides to use weapons, armed forces or PMCs against the people, then the army will advance and professionals will fight. But where are these people? Behind 10 civilians you cannot hide a platoon of special forces, unless there is only one soldier, and one in the field is not a warrior. But if at least 10000 people from a millionaire city come out to defend their freedom, then an ambush regiment may be behind them, and this is a force that cannot be defeated by the frenzied fascists who have seized power in Ukraine today. So now it’s not Putin anymore, but the people living in the Ukrainian regions should give our military the opportunity to do their job - to break the ridge of a fascist monkey.
  25. dmitry_den
    dmitry_den 7 March 2014 09: 10
    -1
    Quote: vladimirZ

    Why shoot and send troops?
    There are other options for supporting the Russian-speaking population of the South-East of a crumbling Ukraine.


    Willingly believe. Especially as your oligarchic-feudal state helps the Russian-speaking in the Baltic states.

    PS
    If the ambassador of the Russian Federation is given a face in a microscopic Middle Eastern state, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation is washing himself with snot, then what about your attempts? :)
  26. ed65b
    ed65b 7 March 2014 09: 12
    0
    Brothers need to support Paul, contact the State Duma. We are writing petitions in defense of political prisoner Gubarev Pavel.
  27. dmitry_den
    dmitry_den 7 March 2014 09: 18
    -2
    Quote: name
    ALARMIST! Have already read the comments about "inaction", therefore to the AUTHOR, in the words of the GDP:Russia reserves the right to protect the interests of the Russian-speaking population in the east and south of Ukraine if the inhabitants of the region are in real danger.


    Now everything is very clear why any abomination without fear of retaliation destroys the monuments to the Soviet Warrior and banishes the graves of fallen fathers and grandfathers for the power of the USSR.

    Such as you are "optimists" and led Yeltsin to management, and the GDP is only his successor, who at the last press conference did not hesitate to confirm that the structure of the modern Russian Federation is similar to independent Ukraine, the only difference is in the degree of corruption.

    PS

    so what's up with serdyukov? did his comrade Putin dismiss him or not?
  28. dmitry_den
    dmitry_den 7 March 2014 09: 22
    0
    Quote: Horde
    How are you going to return the USSR?


    with the consent of the Anglo-Saxon sponsors :))))

    although the Rothschilds and Warburgs vryatli want to see the USSR, it is preferable that British Petroleum and other foreign oil companies pump oil from Russia, until people finally understand that the bowels of the earth belong to him and not to the public domain - Gazprom
  29. Potin
    Potin 7 March 2014 09: 30
    0
    Politics is a delicate matter, and most importantly, it is slow. And the proverb "a chicken pecks a grain" is also on it. There is no need to rush. Russia will not leave her in trouble.
  30. JIaIIoTb
    JIaIIoTb 7 March 2014 09: 44
    +1
    Wow how many liberals it climbed out.
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  32. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 7 March 2014 10: 37
    0
    The fact that our president will surrender Ukraine and Crimea is already clear. Only in vain did we hope for something. angry
  33. fregina1
    fregina1 7 March 2014 10: 46
    0
    After the flooding of "Ochakov" and the actions of polite people in Crimea, there is no turning back! Crimea is no longer part of Ukraine! Who would not say that !!! The referendum and follow-up is a technical job! Basically, the war for the minds in Crimea is over! (It remains to "finish off" the Tatar factor and ventilate the brains of the youth. Now the main thing is to raise the South-East! We need dirt on the oligarchs, bully I think Yanyk didn’t leave for himself, but he also took out the compras to these freaks !!! So both Kolomoisky and Tarukhtan in Donetsk will soon be VERY surprised !!! The main thing is not to give any money !!! Give only to the Crimea! Hungry people think faster !!!!!
  34. pencioner
    pencioner 7 March 2014 11: 15
    0
    Quote: rasputin17
    Ukrainian special forces still broke into the Crimea ....

    Do you yourself believe in this?
  35. Pensioner of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
    +1
    Quote: sergey32
    I agree with Domocles. Where to get a weapon? Yes, every tenth, and even the fifth house in the safe saiga, murka, SKS. It is a self-defense weapon and can be used for defense. Gos. a coup is a grave crime, which must be rebuffed, including weapons. Guys in the Donbass, good cc to Bandera!


    Now, in front of the Donetsk Regional State Administration, there are a dozen 2 police officers. What am I supposed to do? Take your TOZ-34 and open fire on them? Explain how and who to shoot. For Bandera stood 150 people's deputies, with xivas about immunity. No one is behind me!
    1. mihasik
      7 March 2014 12: 53
      0
      I tried to convey this. All shushara (in the person of legal representatives) has adopted a new government and is now acting in accordance with the laws of Ukraine. No one allowed meetings and rallies, and the people were outlawed. And with this we will not do anything, and the people will be strangled quietly. And all the screams about the fact that they acted in the same way .... they put it on it and put it.
  36. Orakyl
    Orakyl 7 March 2014 11: 21
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    Price issue! the human lives of the Russian people and it doesn’t matter on whose side this person was at the present moment.
    Now especially important! clear mind and cold calculation! and not emotions and the desire to shower with hats.
    It is necessary to minimize the military development of events to the maximum, as was the case in 17, when a brother killed his brother, and politicians in the west rubbed their hands in pleasure, reaping the labors of their work — THIS IS THEIR BASIC GOAL !!! not entry in the EU or something else.
    Rest assured, Putin, starting such a torment, calculated all possible options for the development of events and developed countermeasures, follow the events in Crimea.
    Our task is to help, for this we need to support what our government is doing (and no matter how we relate to it on other issues, the common misfortune unites)against the support of the people, any Western propaganda and threats are powerless! we must loudly declare our support, smashing Pindov’s bots in social networks, telling and explaining the game for those who cannot understand what is happening, telling acquaintances and friends abroad about the real development of the situation.
  37. Pensioner of the Ministry of Internal Affairs
    0
    Quote: Sergh
    Right now, you need to play Yanukovych, even if it's homogeneous, but you need to switch the arrows to legitimacy and fight for it until help comes up.


    Yanukovych, it seems, are not alive in the media there appeared infa about his severe heart attack. I’m afraid Putin will now say that, since Yanukovych died, he is forced to communicate with the new government. Brothers Russians, do not leave us!
  38. Vladimir_NN
    Vladimir_NN 7 March 2014 14: 01
    +2
    Until the Donbass itself opposes the Maidan authorities and demonstrates the overwhelming mass and determination, such that no one could doubt that this movement in the Donbass is really popular, there is no reason to count on legitimate open help from Russia (up to the deployment of troops)!

    "...
    “What are my Parisians doing?”
    “They make bonfires and sing revolutionary songs, Your Grace!”
    - They sing, so they will pay! - said the cardinal, rather rubbing his hands ... "


    While the Donbass is working, it pays taxes, continues to live the current life, diluting it with rallies that cannot be associated with the popular will - alas, nothing will change ...
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 7 March 2014 20: 59
      0
      Quote: Vladimir_NN
      While the Donbass is working, it pays taxes, continues ...

      That's right, help _ those in need of help.
  39. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 7 March 2014 21: 27
    0
    As for item 4. We dig in the Crimea Iskander.