Ukrainian soldiers themselves will understand who is yours and who is a stranger

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In Ukraine, provoke war. Ukrainian military will have to understand who needs it, who is in this war, and who is a stranger.

In Ukraine, provoking a civil war. By the phrase "civil war" I mean not only the bloodshed between the citizens of Ukraine - this civil war is already underway.

The first blood was shed in Kiev, when Bandera killed their own fellow citizens, only wearing epaulets and loyal oath. This is the "Berkut" and the internal troops of Ukraine in Kiev fought for the remnants of statehood and territorial integrity. Indeed, risking their lives, rather than defying journalists on television cameras with their officer's honor. For their loyalty to the oath they were burned and shot at. They paid with blood for the steadfastness and courage they showed in defending the Ukrainian state. They were completely forbidden to use weapon in the hope that it will be possible to avoid bloodshed. And the militarized units without distinction did not hesitate to shed blood.

Defending the Ukrainian statehood and national unity - the Golden Eagle and VV lost. They lost because they were betrayed by the Ukrainian authorities themselves. It is not their fault that there is no longer any state or unity. Those who stood in Kiev against anarchy and arbitrariness have nothing to reproach themselves with. They have fulfilled their duty and are now paying the price for this — the so-called “people's power” is taking revenge on them and their families. It avenges precisely because they remained faithful to the oath, carried out orders, did not buy into “gingerbread” and threats, did not “merge” and did not “observe neutrality”, waiting for whose will it take. Golden Eagle and VV - did not stain their military honor.

And now what? Now the Ukrainian military is very, very difficult. Whose orders should they carry out while maintaining loyalty to the oath? Turchinov, who declared himself supreme commander after an armed coup? The oligarchs and bandits behind him, who had already shot at the loyal oath of the military? Or Yanukovych, who is equally hated by all of Ukraine and has already betrayed the people in his uniform in his uniform?

Military people are not lawyers. After the collapse of the Ukrainian statehood, they should not wait for the results of the litigation by the candidates for the post of commander in chief. Commanders have to choose for themselves whose orders are valid and where is the very people of Ukraine whom they have sworn allegiance to. And this situation itself - best of all reflects the complete dismantling of the Ukrainian state and the unrest that has already begun.

But in this situation provoking of another civil war began. Wars are not only between citizens of the ceased to exist state of Ukraine. But also wars between parts of one Big People, which turned out to be at one time divided by borders.

Someone will say that we are no longer one people? And that the Russian military and the Red Banner Black Sea Fleet, which NEVER left the Crimea, are invaders?

Then look at that. The servicemen of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, who remain loyal to the oath and are following the orders of Turchinov and Kolomoisky, are going to exempt from the “invaders” their air force base in Belbek. They are accompanied by Western journalists and shouting "You are live" and "AMERICA WITH US!". But! Under the red banner with the name of three times Hero of the Soviet Union Alexander Pokryshkin! And speaking to the base guard: “Soviet flag, men, will you shoot?”.

And indeed, to the chagrin of Western journalists, they did not shoot. And this is not surprising. Tea, “polite people” without insignia, they are “invaders” - these are not their “fellow citizens”, ready to torture and kill people in uniform with their families. And it also seems to fit the definition of "illegal armed groups," that is, the militia or volunteer units. And yet there is a difference between them. And who of them is his, and who is the "occupier" - as it should be during the civil war, every Ukrainian military is free to decide for himself.

If someone thought that this absurdity is proof of the "occupation" and that the two parts of one Big People managed to be separated in different directions forever - do not expect! Everything ended with football and admission to the 15 jobs of the Ukrainian military. The rest, who remained loyal to a non-existent state, as well as to their wives and children, who were taken along by “officers who retained their honor,” and also to Western journalists who were coldly preparing to take fratricide, had to leave.

This is not the only provocation. Here the Ukrainian military, who also “preserved honor”, ​​loyalty to the oath and following orders from Turchinov and the company, arrived at the location of the unit occupied by the “occupiers”. He arrived, as usual, accompanied by journalists and a small group of "civilians" and stuck to the militia commander with a clear desire to make him admit that he was an "occupier." We will not argue where we could get a few men in civilian clothes with their wives. We will assume that they are in fact military personnel of the former Ukrainian armed forces left without a place of service. Moreover, in any case they are local. We will pay attention to the fact that a man in military uniform and a good astrakhan headdress - obviously works as an assistant of people with video cameras. And he turns out to be familiar with the major militia long ago, although he asks to introduce himself. I understand that in the modern world information warfare is also a form of hostilities. I do not understand how this provocation is related to the "honor of the officer", of which "those who remained faithful" are so proud.

Earlier in the media there was information that "polite people" who are near military units to isolate armaments there, - declared an ultimatum to the Ukrainian military. Like, if those who remain loyal to the oath do not surrender, the assault will be launched. In other words, the "invaders" will start shooting. This information has been disproved:

«We are already accustomed to daily accusations of carrying out some kind of force actions against our Ukrainian colleagues, ”said the representative of the RF Armed Forces. The representative of the headquarters of the Black Sea fleet for its part, said that “we cannot succeed in pushing our foreheads in the Crimea».

Nevertheless, those officers who, in the latest version of the military hierarchy today, fulfill the duties of the leadership of the Ukrainian Armed Forces under the self-appointed commander-in-chief Turchinov — they are working on a “head-on collision”. During the seizure of the central government by armed bandits, the Armed Forces "did not intervene." And now Minister of Defense Tenyukh, as well as. NGS Kutsin appealed to the personnel of military units stationed in the territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. And also, notice to their family members. The appeal says:

«You have a difficult fate in the difficult time for the country to be the first to prevent undisguised military aggression, the purpose of which is to violate the territorial integrity of Ukraine»

There is no direct call for bloodshed in circulation. Suppose that most of the military will really “interfere with undisguised military aggression” not with weapons, but with wives and Western journalists, proudly singing a hymn and encouraging themselves with the slogan “America is with us.” But after such provocative appeals, it is foolish to hope that the “polite people” will leave without control the weapons in the hands and under the protection of the military loyal to Turchinov.

Information warfare does not tolerate prejudice and does not hesitate to lie. So, at night, while no one caught the hand, they tried to make a production film in which the residents of the Crimea want to return under the rule of the Kiev junta, and, of course, to ensure this “European future” for themselves. Funny By no means! Well, who can be persuaded to “liberate Crimea from the invaders”, if you do not lie beforehand that the Crimeans want this liberation?

Why do we need all these provocations and lies? Very simple.

"Onizhedeti", that is, nationalistic minded children and villagers - are already quite ready to kill. And their fellow citizens. But their combat effectiveness in a collision with "polite people" - is very doubtful.

Enchanting nonsense spread by the Ukrainian media, according to which the United States (as well as the Turks, the Chinese, and God knows who else) is about to start a war with Russia, is only suitable for patriotic idiots not to lose their morale ahead of time. And so that they continue to encourage themselves by shouting "AMERICA WITH US" when they "go into battle" together with journalists against those who, like the "heroes" themselves, understand, is not going to shoot.

Probably for someone overseas "brothers" and look preferable. That's just to fight with Russia for some residents of a country - these "brothers" will not. And all the headlines like “The flagship of the Ukrainian Navy crossed the Bosphorus together with the NATO fleet” - only suitable for people who have completely lost touch with reality. Naturally, the Americans know that the carrier strike group will not enter the Black Sea according to the rules of navigation. And certainly not unleash hostilities against the forces of a nuclear power. But in order for the aborigines of some remote country to stop shaming and finally start killing, such misinformation will come down.

But what about the people who seized the central power in Kiev and are able to stay there only in emergency situations? For example, that if the country robbed by them suddenly unites in the face of any enemies, “separatists”, or, even better, “invaders” who, we recall, NEVER left the Crimea and Sevastopol - the city of our common Russian Glory!

All of these Kolomoisky, Poroshenko, Turchinovs and the Nazis who provided for their revolution have one problem. They have already bankrupted their country and now they want to become in it new Gauleiters of the Western world. But the Armed Forces are the only real fighting force that they have at their disposal. Let them be looted and collapsed by the Ukrainian authorities themselves, but still - this is a fragment of the “invincible and legendary” Soviet Army. A piece torn off by the winners of the Soviet Union from the Red Banner Black Sea Fleet. The Ukrainian Armed Forces are part of the Russian Army, which still inspires panic to all Western "well-wishers." The Ukrainian Armed Forces, in fact, the only fighting force capable of extending the feast of the Ukrainian oligarchs with their blood. After all, if Ukraine and Russia fail to clash foreheads - no one will pay for the services of provocateurs who have made the eternal dream of the West come true.

Well, the trouble is - as long as the Ukrainian military, in no small part - the former Soviet, well, they can’t see at last, in the "polite people" and other "separatists" of their enemies, which they must shoot at. And those, for their part, tolerate any provocations and do not shoot at the proud defenders of freedom of Kolomoisky and Turchinov. Whether the “image of the enemy,” drawn by many years of anti-Russian propaganda, conflicts with its own memory. Whether the “national pride” has not yet been won over by common sense and conscience. Many still remember that we are one people. Many Ukrainians still remember that, among other things, they are also Russians. Many still remember that Ukraine is part of a large country, torn apart by our common enemies quite recently.

For the oligarchs who have seized power, for the fascists fed by them and “western friends” - this is a problem. It will be decided by continuing provocations and continuing the information war. For those and others to push the Russian foreheads - a cherished dream. And it is so close to incarnation that no meanness, no lie - will not be considered taboo.

This should be understood by all Ukrainian military. And those who have the courage to avoid the fulfillment of the orders of the self-appointed commander-in-chief, although it is more difficult than not recognizing the distant and useless Yanukovych, and fraught with real, not imaginary threats to well-being and life. And those who are building roadblocks on the border of the Republic of Crimea, preparing to "rebuff the cunning aggressor." Although in the distemper that began in Ukraine, Ukrainians are already being killed by other Ukrainians, and not at all by “bloody invaders”.

No one wants to conquer Ukraine and shoot at their own brothers. But, as we said, Russia simply cannot ignore the following circumstances: a) the emergence in Ukraine of NATO troops or military facilities; b) attempts to deprive the Red Banner Black Sea Fleet of its main base in the hero-city of Sevastopol or attempts to create a threat to its normal functioning; c) attempts to infringe upon the rights, deprive of the right to vote or physically eliminate those residents of Ukraine who still remember that they are Russians.

The onset of any of these circumstances will force Russia to act. This should be understood by all Ukrainian military. As long as there is hope that not one of them will come, despite the burning desire of the well-known forces to pit the brothers. But regardless of this, in the civil confrontation that has already begun in Ukraine, everyone will have to independently determine where their own and where are foreign.
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  1. +59
    8 March 2014 07: 02
    What kind of officers are these? They went into a psychic attack under the guise of their women. They worked for the cameras. Bad actors, bad performance.
    1. +16
      8 March 2014 07: 22
      Quote: sergey32
      What kind of officers are these? They went into a psychic attack under the guise of their women. They worked for the cameras. Bad actors, bad performance.

      or maybe it was not the officers.
      1. ekzorsist
        +4
        9 March 2014 19: 44
        Quote: Dmitry
        Quote: sergey32
        What kind of officers are these? They went into a psychic attack under the guise of their women. They worked for the cameras. Bad actors, bad performance.

        or maybe it was not the officers.

        No, it seems like this is really a resemblance to the officers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
      2. 0
        13 March 2014 09: 52
        And yet these traitors are hiding behind the red banner, it was necessary to take it away and kick these nits with kicks, so that the banner of victory would not be dishonored.
    2. +38
      8 March 2014 07: 32
      It is not easy for our "polite" children now, you will not say anything. But you have to endure and not get frustrated with television cameras. One thing is pleasant, the local residents of Crimea are working very well to "intercept" attempts at provocations. Even, at times, they "knock" on the sly on the unreasonable little heads of individual young men and representatives of the Western press, who come here with the original intentions to make sensations. About, for example, how our soldiers allegedly establish their own order in the Crimea, rampage, etc. - in short, they behave like invaders. Very good work of the Crimeans. Because such "zhurnalishki" simply will not be able to make claims to the common population in their reports.
      1. +10
        8 March 2014 09: 37
        Hats off to the author. It is written beautifully and clearly.
      2. badger1974
        +9
        9 March 2014 04: 34
        if it were not for the polite guys with Kalash and PCs, then we Crimeans would have torn this "discrepancy" Okrainskoe like a tuzik a heating pad, let them be glad that polite guys with Kalash and PCs were not allowed to do this
        1. von Stirlitz
          -2
          11 March 2014 00: 42
          tore your people ?????????
          1. +1
            13 March 2014 09: 54
            these are traitors on the contentment of the State Department and not the people. America, even if they blow it, only the banner under which our grandfathers fought should be taken away so that these scum would not dirty it with their tentacles, and it would be nice to kick them with kicks like cattle, but not military and civilian.
      3. +1
        10 March 2014 02: 50
        In the internet there is an eloquent story - "Interview with the deputy company commander". hi I was addicted to his "interview" !!!!
        It’s time to put a guy as Putin’s spokesman ...
        1. +1
          11 March 2014 08: 45
          Quote: sscha
          In the internet there is an eloquent story - "Interview of the deputy company commander". hi I was dragged from his "interview" !!!!
          It’s time to put a guy as Putin’s spokesman ...

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeEOo-x_epo&feature=player_detailpage
          Link to this video! Just a super comment, handsome guy!
          By the way, a story flashed yesterday that polite people (some of them) were identified as ex-soldiers of the French foreign legion! And there was a subtle hint, MAYBE IT IS WHAT A EUROPEAN COMPANY TYPE AMEROVSKAYA BLACK WATERS!
          1. +1
            11 March 2014 13: 40
            ??? SLAVIC CASE ???
          2. +1
            12 March 2014 14: 11
            AndreyS .: Sorry, but where do you find this, or are you specifically looking for the ego? Where, the plot flashed? Who is this special, identifier? What a subtle hint? You reason purely logically that such dermontine inserts will always be there, even when everything is working out and this will definitely improve in favor of the Crimea, I am sure of this, and the Crimeans will choose Russia. "I am delighted with the" Berkut "fighters, the silent, polite soldiers, and the civilian violence of the Crimea, they all know what they want, and do not collect any parasha at the bottom of the barrel." I do not give an estimate. "
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    4. +1
      8 March 2014 10: 14
      With a pitchfork on the people? laughingOriginal, however.
    5. +2
      8 March 2014 19: 36
      Quote: sergey32
      What kind of officers are these? They went into a psychic attack under the guise of their women. They worked for the cameras. Bad actors, bad performance.

      Power with their own hands destroyed both the army and the police.
      1. Hudo
        0
        8 March 2014 21: 07
        Today! Anti-fascist action in Kharkov shot from a firearm

        Source - the online edition of the “Verb”: http://glagol.in.ua/2014/03/08/antifashistskuyu-aktsiyu-v-harkove-rasstrelyali-i
        z-ognestrelnogo-oruzhiya / # ixzz2vOMNx7Nb
        1. sokolp
          0
          9 March 2014 00: 49
          empty page
          1. sokolp
            +1
            10 March 2014 12: 50
            "Blank page" does not make sense, no, it is just blocked, although your information was confirmed today.
    6. +5
      11 March 2014 09: 11
      My uncle, a Ukrainian, rose to the rank of lieutenant general of the Soviet Army. He was the chief of staff at Alexander Pokryshkin, when he was in command of the air defense corps. He hated nationalists. In 1947, his brother and his family were massacred by nationalists for becoming a Red Army officer. And these "officers" are walking with the Combat Red Banner. They had to take the US flag, then it would be at least honest, at least.
    7. 0
      11 March 2014 09: 11
      My uncle, a Ukrainian, rose to the rank of lieutenant general of the Soviet Army. He was the chief of staff at Alexander Pokryshkin, when he was in command of the air defense corps. He hated nationalists. In 1947, his brother and his family were massacred by nationalists for becoming a Red Army officer. And these "officers" are walking with the Combat Red Banner. They had to take the US flag, then it would be at least honest, at least.
  2. mnbv199
    +52
    8 March 2014 07: 02
    Information war

    I would like to share with the participants of our forum ideas about participation in a true "Information War" in Ukraine.
    Each of us can find on the Internet for ourselves 2 sites with Ukrainian forums, which discuss the political situation in Ukraine. In these forums, every day, you need to post your comments about the danger that threatens Ukraine. You can also show all the disadvantages of the policy pursued by the Kiev junta, which staged a coup.
    Whoever has the time, you can argue with opponents and try to prove your point. For those who have little time, it will be enough to post truthful videos, photos, links to articles on these forums that confirm your correctness in this matter. Also on these forums, you can post copies of the comments of the participants in our forum indicating the address of our site (http://topwar.ru/news/). Let your messages in one visit to the Ukrainian forum will be few, but you need to write about it every day.
    The policy pursued by Kiev is based on lies spread by the Ukrainian media. Media lies are the weakest link in the management of the Ukrainian state. If we all make an effort to knock this link out of Ukraine’s administration, then we have a chance, if not to win, then at least entice most people to our side.
    From the media, we see that eastern Ukraine is fighting for its rights, but the central and western parts of Ukraine have not yet realized their danger. Therefore, we should wage an "information war" on the forums of these parts of Ukraine.
    This call for an "information war" can be extended to other Russian forums as well. I think that many patriots of our Motherland will support this idea.
    I would also like to contact the administration of our site. What if you create a separate blog "Information War", which will be constantly in the news feed. In this blog, we are forum members, we will exchange links to videos, photos, articles, websites, etc. necessary for us to conduct this "war".

    A lot of words in the world,
    Like snowflakes in winter.
    But take, for example, these:
    The word "I" and the word "We."
    "I" in the world is lonely,
    In the "I" is not very much good.
    One or one
    It’s hard to cope with trouble.
    The word “We” is stronger than “I”.
    We are a family and we are friends.
    We are a people, and we are one.
    Together we are invincible!
    (V.Orlov)

    Signature: mnbv 199
    2014 year
    1. +25
      8 March 2014 09: 40
      Quote: mnbv199
      Let your messages in one visit to the Ukrainian forum will be few, but you need to write about it every day.


      There may not be a second. I have already been banned in four forums "for posting slanderous information and insulting the foundations of the state." And their name is legion.

      But, the fact is that those who yell on the Internet will never go to the streets. What about weapons, what about colas. And those who are on the streets - they don’t need the Internet. Everything is decided at them at gatherings and meetings.

      So let the Internet dogs bark further, you really need to kick the wolves from the streets. And in the cells.
      1. +21
        8 March 2014 12: 09
        Guys, specially trained people work in Ukraine, who, as part of ORGANIZED groups, supervise the resource assigned to them. Moreover, they have a lot of blanks, such as several pre-established accounts, some of which are "Russian", "American" etc.
        1. Ivan Russky
          +2
          11 March 2014 03: 08
          IP does not make sense, and there will be banned. We make it easier, break their pages and write not on our behalf. Works efficiently am
      2. ReifA
        +2
        8 March 2014 13: 30
        Bans can be bypassed by changing ip, or by simpler methods, like http://hidemyass.com/
    2. ed65b
      +13
      8 March 2014 10: 12
      mnbv 199. Yes, it has long been there. Only when I go out there my hair stirs from what is written and written there. Total hatred and Russophobia, and with full confidence that poor poor people live in Russia. The Russians are trying to oppose, and many sites have disabled the ability to leave comments. stupidly included unilateral zombie population.
      1. +1
        8 March 2014 17: 34
        And in what language do they communicate on their sites. Although it’s clear what they’re writing about, I don’t understand why the hell
    3. +8
      8 March 2014 10: 52
      Quote: mnbv199
      but the central and western parts of Ukraine have not yet realized their danger. Therefore, we should wage an "information war" on the forums of these parts of Ukraine.

      But this will not enlighten the bulk of the population. Here is infa that the "wide Ukrainian" government cuts pensions in Ukraine by half and raises the tariff for electricity and gas by 40%.
      This "vzhe" should help to grow wiser ...
    4. +4
      8 March 2014 11: 04
      can a couple of links to the most zealous forums maidanutyh
      1. ed65b
        +3
        8 March 2014 13: 04
        Quote: Siberian19
        can a couple of links to the most zealous forums maidanutyh

        Dial the media of Ukraine and go to any. from the truth of Ukraine and beyond, you will not be mistaken. They all stand in even rows.
      2. badger1974
        +8
        9 March 2014 05: 03
        a couple of days ago I rubbed my forehead with the zhurnalyugam of the outskirts of the Fifth Channel (the name speaks for itself) and the New Channel, look, here's some fun as they sing about the Crimean events, I’m from the Crimea, and I assure you, I haven’t seen such nonsense since the time of Juhi, gop trinity surpassed even the Air Force on the death row
        1. dmitrij.blyuz
          +1
          9 March 2014 06: 15
          http://warfiles.ru/show-49833-berkut-russkie-svoih-ne-brosayut.html
    5. +4
      8 March 2014 13: 03
      Each of us can find on the Internet for ourselves 2 sites with Ukrainian forums, which discuss the political situation in Ukraine. In these forums, every day, you need to post your comments about the danger that threatens Ukraine. You can also show all the disadvantages of the policy pursued by the Kiev junta, which staged a coup.
      The case is not very promising, a couple of comets and right there in the bathhouse.
    6. +6
      8 March 2014 13: 13
      That's right, it is not easy to counter a Ukrainian. resources. You have to restrain yourself and not respond to the stream of insults addressed to your country, leadership, all Russians and yourself. Attempts to reciprocate are an instant ban. And the right tactic is not to succumb, not to start barking with the "workers" of such resources, but to politely and patiently clarify and convey the truth, convey your position to those few adequate people who also visit such sites.
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    8. +3
      8 March 2014 15: 49
      Quote: mnbv199
      Each of us can find on the Internet for ourselves 2 sites with Ukrainian forums, which discuss the political situation in Ukraine. In these forums, every day, you need to post your comments about the danger that threatens Ukraine. You can also show all the disadvantages of the policy pursued by the Kiev junta, which staged a coup.

      I agree, but there for a different point of view, stupidly banyat ...
    9. +2
      8 March 2014 19: 38
      Quote: mnbv199
      I would like to share with the participants of our forum ideas about participation in a true "Information War" in Ukraine.

      Banderlog banyat.
    10. 225chay
      +3
      8 March 2014 20: 14
      Quote: mnbv199
      Information war

      Ki pit our peoples foreheads!
      The same creatures that provoked the revolution in 17, as well as the coup of 91 years and subsequent clashes.
      The task of the international villains: the extermination of Slavic peoples!
      1. badger1974
        +8
        9 March 2014 05: 15
        Are you obviously a test-tube person, what is the 17th year ?, what is the 91st year? banderlogs like the Crimean Tatars are a story of betrayal, Crimea and the Carpathians are antipods of life, we have a bloody and heroic story, they have a story of betrayal and shooting in the back, and also the struggle with monuments, do not overwrite nonsense about the brotherhood, this scum is just a blued trunk understands, because in a calf’s language it’s difficult for him to broaden his horizons
    11. badger1974
      +11
      9 March 2014 04: 45
      I’m watching the channels on the outskirts and I’m sick, our Crimea has been trying to be fraternal with Russia for 20 years with a lighter, and if the outskirts did the same as we did, then no one would freak out, and so, guys, you don’t believe this on the outskirts of the TV channels delirium of senility, believe me, it’s g.but the media on the outskirts have been relentless for 20 years., in fact, we are skidding and going back, HARE March 16th, we are here to meet you, the prodigal son
    12. -4
      9 March 2014 04: 58
      I live in Ukraine screaming with us America hasn’t heard in the report. The media are lying and the Russians are in the information war. Our (Ukrainian) army is really democratized. And the Oath is GIVEN ONE TIME TO ITS PEOPLE AND THE COUNTRY. Do not believe those who swear it! You must not allow fratricide!
      1. +6
        9 March 2014 12: 36
        Quote: Suhow
        I live in Ukraine screaming with us America hasn’t heard in the report. The media are lying and the Russians are in the information war. Our (Ukrainian) army is really democratized. And the Oath is GIVEN ONE TIME TO ITS PEOPLE AND THE COUNTRY. Do not believe those who swear it! You must not allow fratricide!

        ha ha ha a democratized army is when a fascist with a pistol walks behind the commander so that the commander does not flinch against his own people
        1. +1
          12 March 2014 03: 44
          in this sense, democratized-collapsed. Remember the restructuring of Gorbachov
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      3. 0
        13 March 2014 10: 15
        Look what your former SBU commander said yesterday who made the revolution and who really runs the country, to whom your military took the oath of office? They didn’t fulfill it, on oath they had to destroy this undercover junta and recruited agents, and they decided to sit out and now, again, they do not want to take the oath and throw off the junta, the herd is with you and not the army.
        1. 0
          14 March 2014 01: 57
          if the former president himself did not know what he was doing, then where were the armies and the last year he supported. minus
  3. +10
    8 March 2014 07: 35
    Do Russian wars want to happen?
    You ask the silence
    Above the width of the fields and fields,
    And birches and poplars,
    You will ask those soldiers,
    What's under the birches
    And their sons will answer you
    Do Russians want, do Russians want
    Do the Russians want war.

    Not only for your country
    Soldiers died in that war,
    And that the people of the whole earth
    It was easy to sleep at night.
    Ask those who fought,
    Who hugged you on the Elbe
    We are faithful to this memory.
    Do Russians want, do Russians want
    Do Russian wars want to happen?
    1. +76
      8 March 2014 07: 55
      Here is the opinion of the layman at the Ukrainian military registration and enlistment office ..
      1. kripto
        +43
        8 March 2014 08: 44
        "I swore an oath of allegiance to the Soviet Union" - there is nothing more to add. The oath is given only once !!!
      2. +17
        8 March 2014 09: 35
        What is your name? His name is MAN. But what is your name, girl, "pure blood"?
        I quote Don Juan: "I am sorry that my parents died as Indians without realizing that, first of all, they were human."
        This man is worthy of respect!
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      4. +7
        8 March 2014 10: 51
        I read the article com is in the throat !!!!!! I watched the video take malice but for the good, as long as there are PEOPLE, I’ll defend them without clever clever people, although I really hope that there will be no war! Once again I am convinced that people just fooled fooled by promises of a sweet life !!! My cousin lives and works in Kiev, he says that everything is just tired of not working normal not money, although everything was in order before the Maidan !!! One wants to wish the brothers and sisters HOLD! !!!
      5. +3
        8 March 2014 11: 07
        if at least half of them, then we will win! a true patriot of the Russian people
        1. +1
          8 March 2014 18: 17
          Quote: Siberian19
          if at least half of them, then we will win

          Yes, at least ten percent of such convinced people and the people will stretch.
      6. +1
        8 March 2014 12: 49
        Well done man, but of course he runs into Ilyich, in vain Ukraine was singled out by the whites - the same hetman Skoropadsky, Petlyura and others like them.
        1. 0
          8 March 2014 22: 47
          Well, what kind of minus set? Justify.
      7. brownie
        +14
        8 March 2014 13: 58
        Well done man! Maybe he said a little "clumsily", but what he said is absolutely true. We have lived in one country for almost 350 years and now they are trying to convince us that the enemies are there, in Russia. And it should be admitted that many managed to "brainwash" them ("brains", since it is very difficult to name the contents of their cranials as a brain). I was "lucky" to communicate almost every day with a representative of the "glorious tribe" of Russophobes (an employee at work). For him, only kats ... py and Yanukovych are to blame for all the troubles. But, it seems, and not a stupid person, two higher educations. And sometimes he even agrees with my arguments. But all the same - kats are to blame ... py. request
      8. +1
        8 March 2014 22: 24
        Human rights. In fact, there is no such state (and was there any?) Of the state-Ukraine. And consequently, the army and the police. In any case, it (if any) was trampled and shot together with BERKUT, burned together with the house of trade unions, trampled along with the law by the Galician SS and other Maidan scum. Now there are fascist gangs who have usurped power, appointing puppets to their pseudo-government, and ordinary people in the form of militias. And all the former security officials of the Independent will now have to decide on whose side they are! in fact, there is MALOROSSIA (Crimea, South-East) and mazepia, plus several infantile regions. With the return to our common home, MALOROSSIA has a chance for a bright future, the rest are unlikely. The topic of autonomy, independence and integrity will not work anymore. The "Lord Destructor" finally split this society, stirring up the Western snake nest, while losing all control over the Bandera.
      9. +1
        9 March 2014 07: 14
        real man! I respect those.
      10. Fanat1984
        +1
        14 March 2014 15: 15
        By the way, about the 91st year, Kravchuk did not have the authority to sign the Bialowieza Agreement, he did not have ABSOLUTELY any authority, he did not take office at that time, and Yeltsin and Shushkevich exceeded their authority ...
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      12. Fanat1984
        0
        14 March 2014 15: 24
        I wrote this comment: By the way, about the 91st year, Kravchuk did not have the authority to sign the Bialowieza Agreement, he did not have ABSOLUTELY any authority, he did not take office at that time, and Yeltsin and Shushkevich exceeded their authority ...

        Why was it removed? Is it scary to realize that we all still live in the USSR? laughing
    2. crest
      +27
      8 March 2014 17: 53
      The guys are funny. I have many friends and maydonuty and those with whom I went maydanuty from the executive committee to expel. So of all, only I, a mobilization order, received the VUS, and it turns out to be my deficiency. So I think that even though I don’t have a summer residence in the Crimea and I have nothing to beat off in that land, I’ll need to go get my tank on a trip to Lviv
      1. wax
        +4
        8 March 2014 19: 39
        That's it, that's the point. One thing is virtual Russophobia, another thing is the concrete actions of specific people in a specific situation. Adaptability, herd instinct are inherent characteristics of a social person. It is worth changing the background (for example, joining Russia), as everyone will become patriots of Russia. And no one wants to die without any meaning. The danger lies precisely in the provocations prepared by the Bandera-pro-NATO junta and greedy oligarchs. The heat around Crimea will gain momentum until March 16-17. Most likely there will be an attempt at a tank breakthrough on the isthmus. It seems to me that the isthmus must be urgently barricaded with anti-tank "hedgehogs" to great depths. And also to close Crimea for entry and exit from March 15 to March 17 without special permits
        1. Hudo
          +8
          8 March 2014 19: 44
          Quote: Wax
          The heat around the Crimea will gain strength until March 16-17. Most likely there will be an attempt at a tank breakthrough on the isthmus.


          I guess earlier. Junta needs to thwart a referendum in Crimea. And they will do it regardless of the losses to drive the troops to the slaughter. The exit of Crimea from mazepia is a faithful kirdyg and karachun to the whole cannibalistic project "Ukraine", its Kashchey's needle. Evil will fight for the ovs' interests to the last Ukrainian.
      2. +4
        8 March 2014 22: 17
        only I received a mobilization order

        so apparently maidanutye all flat-footed and enuresis.
      3. badger1974
        +2
        9 March 2014 05: 22
        it will come in handy, first we will jerk for the kick, so that we can make the kiwiv again the hero city of Kiev, and then to the west, squeeze the Benderlog "pamarin" to the Czech Republic, only we will be distributing it to the Benderlog in Crimea, it will be an Achtung track
    3. Hudo
      +6
      8 March 2014 18: 47
      Quote: bandabas
      Do Russian wars want to happen?



      Kiev impostors preparing a military operation to capture the Crimea

      Nomination of Uragan MLRS divisions of the 27th rocket artillery regiment from Sumy (16 guides of 220 mm caliber, warhead weight up to 100 kg, max. Range of destruction up to 35 km, distance from Chaplinka to Perekop - less than 30 km)

      Unfortunately, of all the options for responding to events in the Crimea - in my purely personal assessment - the newly-minted Kiev authorities chose the path to preparing for a military strike on the peninsula:

      1. Since the admiral himself Minister of Defense Admiral Tenyukh, although a native of the Lviv region, is not able to engage in the development and conduct of a large-scale operation of the ground forces, Panov Turchinov, Parubiy and Yatsenyuk decided to entrust it with the three deputies of the Minister of Defense who still retained their posts. All three - generals Oleinik, Mozharovsky and Babenko refused the offer and were dismissed from their posts; the personnel gap had to be closed by retired Colonel Peter Mekhed, whose last position was called "Deputy Director of the Department of International Cooperation of the Ministry of Defense."

      2. It is not yet known who exactly of the Ukrainian generals agreed to undertake the execution of a plan resembling, in essence, Georgia’s attack on South Ossetia. However, if we take into account the hanging of the active protection blocks on the 1 tanks nd section. tank brigade (Goncharovskoe, Chernihiv region), exit from the permanent deployment sites in the southern direction of the 26 artillery brigade (Berdichev, Zhytomyr region), and the 27 regiment of reactive artillery (Sumy), we can assume that the core of the attack group appear 8 th army corps under the command of Lieutenant-General Litvin Peter Mikhailovich.

      3. For the blockade of the Crimean isthmuses, the 79 th separate airmobile brigade is deployed. The 8 Army Corps (Zhytomyr), which includes two mechanized and tank brigades, is moving southward. Part of the 25-th separate airborne brigade (Dnepropetrovsk) and other units from the 6-th army corps (Dnepropetrovsk) may be involved. The grouping (depending on the outcome of the “work” with the command of the formations and units) can be created more than serious - up to two tank and four mechanized brigades with artillery support units, as well as an airborne, airmobile brigade and a special-purpose regiment.

      4. From a military point of view, what is happening is nothing more than preparation for an army offensive operation with the immediate task of capturing the isthmuses and access to the operational space and with the ultimate task of unblocking the points of permanent deployment of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and military facilities. From a political point of view, mastering Dzhankoy and Simferopol guarantees the impossibility of holding the Crimean referendum.

      5. As it became known, “self-defense activists of Maidan” (mainly from the “Right Sector”) were assigned to the commanders of the formations and units with the task of active psychological treatment of the personnel and control over the actions of the commanders with the right to remove them from command.
      Personally, I really want to hope that the minds of Ukrainian military leaders will prevail over the demands of their political leadership, and Pyotr Mikhailovich will think about it before giving the order to open fire.
      1. +2
        8 March 2014 19: 18
        I agree, it seems
        1. Hudo
          +1
          8 March 2014 19: 40
          Quote: poquello
          I agree, it seems

          A rotation of personnel was carried out - those called up from regions loyal to Russia were transferred to the west "U", and vice versa - zapadlyantsy - to the East and South, their most notorious fascists from the com-level were assigned to the commanders. platoon. It won't be good. Parts of the MLRS will be the first to fall under the distribution, but then it will fall to everyone else and rushed ...
          Execution can not be pardoned - and nowhere to put a comma. And so and so * oops.
          1. +4
            8 March 2014 20: 36
            Quote: Hudo
            Quote: poquello
            I agree, it seems

            A rotation of personnel was carried out - those called up from regions loyal to Russia were transferred to the west "U", and vice versa - zapadlyantsy - to the East and South, their most notorious fascists from the com-level were assigned to the commanders. platoon. It won't be good. Parts of the MLRS will be the first to fall under the distribution, but then it will fall to everyone else and rushed ...
            Execution can not be pardoned - and nowhere to put a comma. And so and so * oops.

            This is a guaranteed suicide benderlog, maniacs suicides. Here it is a pity for people.
            1. Hudo
              +5
              8 March 2014 20: 51
              Quote: poquello
              Here it is a pity for people.


              Sorry for the wrong word! The soul is torn to pieces! Fascist bastards - there’s a video on this branch - they drive to slaughter like cattle, not all cars are tilt, but people are in bodies, and the weather isn’t good for driving in convertibles. The creatures are vile. So Hitler jerks from the Hitler Youth drove to death under the tanks.
              1. -5
                10 March 2014 22: 31
                Quote: Hudo
                Sorry for the wrong word! The soul is torn to pieces! Fascist bastards - there’s a video on this branch - they drive to slaughter like cattle, not all cars are tilt, but people are in bodies, and the weather isn’t good for driving in convertibles. The creatures are vile. So Hitler jerks from the Hitler Youth drove to death under the tanks.



                And you didn’t feel sorry when in winter in Afghanistan and Chechnya, riding the same armor, the same Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians and other stinkers (I do not insult anyone)So Hitler jerks from the Hitler Youth drove to death under the tanks.(And Stalin drove people to Finnish in summer uniforms for slaughter.) Of course, it’s a pity for people to suffer, not Putin and Yanukovych, but someone else. Crimeans will certainly vote for independence, and what’s next, as politicians stole and will steal, there were Ukrainian will become Russian. And to you personally, the question will become the Crimea of ​​Russia, and you should amuse yourself with pride, only after that I will not be surprised if Ukraine rushes to NATO and Europe at all times.
                1. 0
                  12 March 2014 14: 23
                  Pido-rock mattress, you licked your havalnuk, and it’s not gundos, you don’t deserve this "reasoning" I mean, but usually what I mean is and I enter.
                  Was chasing your "sucker". And now gasp to complain, when I write to people like you, slap, you immediately complain to the Admin, because you rotten people are not even able to answer for your bazaar.
                  The hottest MINUS.
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      2. crest
        +12
        8 March 2014 19: 21
        Imagine a situeven when it was necessary to remove a koya car from storage for 25 years and was there to turn it into a normal battle, then fly the mechanics and the operator to the same place. Then it’s a herd of elephants to drive for loading. Mom, dear, I participated in such events when the personnel and officers were of a completely different preparation, then ..... I am almost sure that the Ukrainian Army is simply not capable of such a feat. I'm not even talking about exercises and co-ordinating units like a platoon-company.
        Yes, and Crimea, with its flat northern part, no one has yet taken without air superiority, okromya Kozakov of course.
      3. -9
        8 March 2014 19: 32
        )great. ho.hlam then come for sure.
        1. crest
          +11
          8 March 2014 20: 04
          We trash, Khokhlov will always shine the sun, the question is when and with whom
          1. Hudo
            +7
            8 March 2014 20: 53
            We trash, Khokhlov will always shine the sun, the question is when and with whom


            It is better to let the sun shine on the beach than in universal slavery.
          2. +1
            12 March 2014 14: 30
            Do not be offended by the "formidable", he is very formidable today, he wrote this on March 8th, it's not worth it.
        2. 0
          12 March 2014 14: 29
          And you, sir, it’s not good, it’s not so beautiful, you’ll be doing this in the swamp.
      4. +4
        8 March 2014 23: 24
        Quote: Hudo
        Kiev impostors preparing a military operation to capture the Crimea
        I will not reveal the secret any more, since THEM KNOW IT ... but on our side the troops stand, almost in marching columns, tightly "in the back of each other's head" and if any of the Ukrainian strategists fancies himself Manstein, then I feel sorry for him .. .because the next liberation of Ukraine is ready ...
        1. +3
          9 March 2014 00: 05
          And further...
          "To wage a war, I need three things: first, money, secondly, money, and thirdly, money." Napoleon Bonaparte
          1. badger1974
            +5
            9 March 2014 05: 32
            it's all about money well, but Denis Davydov didn’t think so, he believed that the first honor, second honor, third honor, and money can be taken from the enemy, and even those to the treasury
      5. badger1974
        +4
        10 March 2014 16: 13
        I would like a quicker outcome, the banderlogs will run, oh, how they run, they’re there at the dig and the chongar, they’re not sorry for benderlogs, but Ukrainian recruits are a pity, but when there’s such a booze-cut the last cucumber, there are no chances for benderlogs to increase the number of funeral teams , we will urinate for a brighter future. benderlogs for garbage and hatred, drug intoxication, nasty assistant military operations
    4. +3
      8 March 2014 19: 15
      No, we told the fascists!
      Our people will not tolerate
      To Russian fragrant bread,
      I ate Bandera!

      From Donbass to Crimea
      The siloviki rose
      Endless avalanche
      They went to the Donetsk regiments,
      We stood up with the Russians,
      Little Russians, Cossacks,
      Belarusians and Rusyns,
      Serbs, Greeks, Krymchaks.

      All normal nations
      Against a common enemy
      Everyone to whom freedom is sweet
      Russia Holy road!
  4. +8
    8 March 2014 08: 17
    who is there watching that the SNIPER-HALVASHCHIK from highly developed Estonia does not start firing on both sides (an example of Kiev !!!)?
  5. Oml
    +16
    8 March 2014 08: 18
    Well done man! He wiped his nose provocateur.
  6. +30
    8 March 2014 08: 32
    I saw this story when a column of Ukrainian soldiers approached their base with a red banner ... I thought they wanted to defend the officers' honor. But it is true, from the column there was a cry "AMERICA WITH US" ... I realized that at the moment, the Ukrainian military themselves do not know who they are for. If for Bandera, then why cling to the sacred red banner, carry the red and black flag of the UPA, and the American flag ... But I am sure that the Ukrainian military will soon decide who they are - for the Bandera, or for the Russian Crimea. ..But guys (I am addressing the Ukrainian military), by God, you don’t have to dirty the red banners with your own hands, with which our fathers and grandfathers fought against the Nazis and smashed them ... Finally, decide who you are?
    1. +9
      8 March 2014 10: 47
      Quote: Agent 008
      .I realized that at the moment, the Ukrainian military themselves do not know who they are for. If for Bandera’s, then why cling to the sacred red banner, bring the UPA red and black flag and the American flag ... But I’m sure that the Ukrainian military will decide in the near future who they are for Bandera, or for the Russian Crimea. .
      Yes, they now have a difficult choice, but we do not need our illusions - they were told 23 years old, Russia will attack, Russia is the enemy. Only those were left in the army who answered the question: "You will fight with Russia" - YES, and what do you want now? Of course, some of them understand the inevitability of the events taking place, and that a choice must be made ... but while they see the enemy, in the form of "polite people" and it is ... somehow easier for them to act ...
      1. +9
        8 March 2014 11: 09
        Quote: svp67
        Yes, they now have a difficult choice, but our illusions are not necessary

        Hello comrades! hi
        They told them, of course, a lot ... But, I think that their brains did not get bogged down at all. On the example of Georgia, where they also talked a lot, we can conclude: live all hotstsa! Yes And there is no way to fight against the obviously strongest enemy. The commanders of the "wide" also understand that they are the first to take risks themselves (and families, yes, yes, how unfortunate it is, if they start to shoot seriously at the Black Sea Fleet and at the self-defense of Crimea, it is impossible to give any guarantees)
        The Ukrainian military is likely to "bachat" and "sense" the mood of the Crimeans themselves. And this is the main point. Self-defensego ahead!
        1. +3
          8 March 2014 13: 05
          Quote: Alekseev
          The Ukrainian military is likely to "bachat" and "sense" the mood of the Crimeans themselves. And this is the main point. Self-defense, go ahead!

          Fireworks salute ... soldier
          This video completely unsettled me ... they are walking under the Soviet Battle Banner, but where did the Battle Banner of the Ukrainian Armed Forces go? They sing the anthem of the USSR Air Force, now Russia ... and immediately shout "America is with us," Pokryshkin recalls, no, of course I know that his division flew on American "Cobras", but ... Did they really think that for "polite people "Is America an authority?
          1. +3
            8 March 2014 13: 31
            Quote: svp67
            are going under the Soviet Battle Banner, but where did the Battle Banner of the Ukrainian Armed Forces go? They sing the anthem of the USSR Air Force, now Russia ... and immediately shout "America is with us"

            Troubles, devastation in the heads ...
            But, for sure, they are given comprehensive explanations. Yes
            They must clearly realize that Russia and Putin have no way back.
            Go ahead, Tsarevich Ivan, and, no matter how scary it is, don’t look back. So, in my opinion, in Russian fairy tales.
            Naturally, the choice of the Ukrainian military is not great. But the commanders are waiting ... They are just like that, without serious reason to hand over their weapons to scrap.
            Suddenly have to make excuses?
            Suddenly they will call the Banderlog and ask: they didn’t shoot at you, and there wasn’t any referendum, why did you give in to the zbroy, "poultry encore"?
            I think that after the referendum they will have to "surrender the currency" and "drain the water."
            1. +3
              8 March 2014 13: 43
              Quote: Alekseev
              I think that after the referendum they will have to "surrender the currency" and "drain the water"

              There is more interesting news ...
              According to the military, "maybe a few dozen" Igla complexes were stolen. In particular, the lack of MANPADS was recorded in the 80th separate airmobile regiment, where 54 sets were located, and in the 27th separate mobile brigade, stationed 45 km from Lviv, where 90 sets were stored.

              The military noted that the new leadership of the defense department of Ukraine is taking "urgent measures to camouflage this difficult situation."
              They will pop up somewhere now ... if only "damn", they turned out to be overdue ...
              1. +1
                8 March 2014 14: 43
                Quote: svp67
                There is more interesting news ...
                According to the military, "maybe a few dozen" Igla complexes were stolen.

                This is not good...
                But how much was stolen (and, indeed, will be stolen) and, by the way, not only in Ukraine ...
                And in the west of Ukraine, the commanders rested in the defense of their units from banderlogs? Or immediately recognized the coup? Or were they also talking about the oath?
                1. +1
                  8 March 2014 23: 27
                  Quote: Alekseev
                  And in the west of Ukraine, the commanders rested in the defense of their units from banderlogs? Or immediately recognized the coup? Or were they also talking about the oath?
                  This is also a QUESTION? and something tells me that everything was different there ...
            2. +2
              8 March 2014 13: 46
              Yes, I now understand why they invited Saakashvili, will be the Minister of Panic, with the task of creating one in front of foreign TV cameras, with the sounds of an airplane flying past ...
        2. badger1974
          +7
          9 March 2014 06: 17
          we just hate it, and it’s about to start, just don’t want to fart at anyone, Benderlog’s point was squeezed so that they can’t shit normally, de facto Russian Crimea from the 16th plus 3 days Russian de jure, in my name day there’s no better present for my fortieth birthday come up with
      2. badger1974
        +6
        9 March 2014 05: 42
        I confirm that in 23 years there was a processing of consciousness, and from this treatment the Ukrainians completely cut off consciousness of what war is at all, it doesn’t apply to Crimea, because here we have two cities, a hero, and if someone got the idiotic idea of ​​frying fried eggs on eternal flame, most likely this person will be eaten by the Black Sea crabs
  7. +25
    8 March 2014 08: 44
    Gorbachev M.S.- didn’t you really understand what you did ... If this fratricidal war occurs, then all its blood will fall on you and you don’t have time to wash it off ... You will be damned.
    1. +7
      8 March 2014 09: 42
      Yes, he is already really fucked.
      1. +2
        8 March 2014 22: 54
        Gorbachev M.S.- didn’t you really understand what you did ...

        Yes, you really do not forget about all the characters of the Bialowieza Forest, led by EBN.
      2. 0
        10 March 2014 14: 14
        Quote: Banshee
        Yes, he is already really fucked.

        Let her prepare for the world of shadows. There they will also ask him: "What is the result of your life, my friend? Now let's look at the forums, what grateful descendants write."
  8. +4
    8 March 2014 09: 05
    Quote: svp67
    Gorbachev M.S.- didn’t you really understand what you did ... If this fratricidal war occurs, then all its blood will fall on you and you don’t have time to wash it off ... You will be damned.

    Yes, to this grand-eater of the Nobel Peace Prize on earth ....... to be deep and wide. I would have put it in the 45th against the wall and fired salt in one place
  9. +8
    8 March 2014 09: 23
    How not ashamed before the grandfathers who fought with the Nazis to go with the red banner to defend Bandera ?! Where did they study at the Union, at school or at state college? The paradox is that the former neighbors in the yard, house, city could meet in battle, for such a trick one can charge the organizer of such
    1. +3
      8 March 2014 18: 32
      Quote: Gray 43
      How not ashamed before the grandfathers who fought with the Nazis to go with the red banner to defend Bandera ?!

      Here was a video interview with the commander of the battalion of Ukrainian Marines.
      The guy is babbling about him they say, he gave the oath to the people of Ukraine.
      When he was asked about the legitimacy of the "rabbit" Yatsenyuk, Turchinov, the Nazi Yarosh (he is a member of the Soviet bez, that is, a representative of the authorities now), i.e. of the Ukrainian "Vlada", who came to power as a result of the coup, he immediately said that the question was provocative.
      Him that will some people give orders from Kiev? Or quite specific, not legitimate persons?
      I understand that he may have relatives in banderlog, etc.
      We are very sorry, but we have to choose, and do not nod to the oath.
    2. wax
      +1
      8 March 2014 19: 49
      Until their military fired. The task of the military pro-warriors behind them is to force the first shot to be made by the Crimeans or ours. I do not think it is obvious that the APU will start shooting first, it will most likely be rammed by armored vehicles.
    3. +1
      10 March 2014 14: 23
      Quote: Gray 43
      How not ashamed before the grandfathers who fought with the Nazis to go with the red banner to defend Bandera ?!

      Poorly. But worse when there is no red banner. And so the obvious confusion in the heads is better than the obvious betrayal.
      Remember The Matrix? How did Neo beat Smith? This red banner will still play its role in the victory over fascism.
  10. +1
    8 March 2014 09: 34
    Rusty superpower "Background" 28.09.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX Type in YOUTUBE ONLY FACTS does not apply to Ukraine and the events in it are just an interesting video if you think that this is about RUSSIA, then no.
  11. +2
    8 March 2014 09: 35
    who knows exactly tell me please, have any troops actually crossed to the side of the Crimea, and which ones? I see that in fact, neither sailors, nor border guards, nor the marines are going to go anywhere and this is very sad - it can grow into a big problem
    1. badger1974
      +1
      9 March 2014 20: 00
      Calm down, there’s no threat from the remaining units, they are waiting on March 16 for only an Okrainsky officer, to get an order for courage, since after leaving home these scum will get something above the beggarly salary, it's scum and not officers, I'm from the Crimea steering wheel in the subject
  12. +1
    8 March 2014 09: 54
    Damn, damn, damn how bad I feel. They make me swear an oath, they are the same as us. What if the war, what do they do.
    These are my emotions, and in fact the essence.
  13. +45
    8 March 2014 10: 04


    many people like to kick this guy, that he didn’t give up, and I'm proud of him!
    A real Russian soldier! Although under the flag of Ukraine.

    I ask everyone to reduce the intensity of passions, mockery and accusations of Ukrainian soldiers and officers honestly carrying out their service
    Before publishing on them and giggling, remember 2 of the moment-
    - we specifically want to play off and provoke fratricide.
    -we need to respect their choice and allegiance to the oath of even such absurdities as Ukraine.


    signature. wide Muscovite from Moscow
    1. uhjpysq1
      -5
      8 March 2014 10: 35
      ) noticeably nervous) obviously not sure about his future) now he is a colonel, and tomorrow no one) but how he wants to be a colonel)))))))) smear the heels with svidomyo fat)
      1. +3
        8 March 2014 12: 40
        Quote: uhjpysq1
        ) noticeably nervous) obviously not sure about his future) now he is a colonel, and tomorrow no one) but how he wants to be a colonel)))))))) smear the heels with svidomyo fat)

        Georgy Apollonovich Gapon can be envied by such a consistent provocateur
        1. badger1974
          +5
          9 March 2014 06: 41
          let’s not lie, I have been in uniform for 22 years, of which 20 are in the outskirts, and I know perfectly well how they serve the people of the outskirts, this is the write-off of fuel and lubricants and materiel for alleged needs, these are "dead souls" - when recruits-slaves serve as a contract soldier ( you smell the difference in salary), and the loot pours into the pocket of this freak in uniform, schemes that a million would be satiated, and now he is faced with a choice personally for himself and not for the people of his beloved suburb, he is waiting for a freebie, and there is no need here about some duty to grovel, worthless
      2. +5
        8 March 2014 13: 04
        How should he feel? Purely human, I sympathize with him and understand.
      3. brownie
        +21
        8 March 2014 14: 31
        ) noticeably nervous) obviously not sure about his future) now he is a colonel, and tomorrow no one) but how he wants to be a colonel)))))))) smear the heels with svidomyo fat)
        That's right, nervous. Who is not nervous in the Ukrainian army now? The servicemen swore allegiance to the People of Ukraine and not to politicians. And from the fact that the people themselves are now divided, you will not only get nervous, but you will also start drinking "bitter". And it is true that he is unsure of his future. It was not he who started this whole mess, but he will have to die, in which case (God forbid, of course). And they will make him the extreme again, like Berkut and VVshnikov. As a former soldier of the Ukrainian army, I understand him. And I can openly declare that I will not fight against Russia. He is deprived of this by his Oath. In the meantime, I can only wish the lieutenant colonel restraint and not get involved in political games.
        1. wax
          -1
          8 March 2014 20: 10
          And yet, you can’t put our military directly on the isthmus. There should be anti-tank hedgehogs and peaceful Crimeans - tanks will not go on them - the military should understand that this will be a war crime with the appropriate punishment for them and their leaders. But if they go, demolish the entire column without any pity.
          1. brownie
            +6
            8 March 2014 20: 21
            And yet, you can’t put our military directly on the isthmus.
            Well, it was on the isthmus that I did not see a single Russian soldier or sailor. And the option of using PMCs is not suitable? And are there any operating PMCs in Russia ?. Or is it a disbanded Golden Eagle? In any case, I cannot say unequivocally that in the Crimea, I can’t block everything and everywhere by the Russian army. They have no distinction signs, they do not present documents, the Commander-in-Chief and the Minister of Defense of Russia say that the troops are in places of permanent deployment. And I don’t think that they can substitute themselves like that. So, as one senior lieutenant promised, we will soon find out and be surprised. smile
          2. badger1974
            0
            9 March 2014 06: 46
            your soldiers are in the fifth and last "redoubt", we are Crimeans and Cossack friends from Taman at the front end, so do not bzdi, bender logs will not break through under any circumstances. this is Okrainskoe now makes attacks in the form of women with children and the Okrainsky is uncooperative
    2. 0
      8 March 2014 18: 33
      You know, stas57, I understand his difficult situation, but I'm not proud of him. There is a hash in his head that he is trying to figure out. So far, in fact, he is pouring water on the mill by the fascist junta in Kiev, and does not protect the people of Ukraine. God forbid a third force will provoke a collision.
      1. +6
        8 March 2014 23: 43
        Quote: AUralski
        So far, in fact, he is pouring water on the mill by the fascist junta in Kiev, and does not protect the people of Ukraine. God forbid a third force will provoke a collision.
        Don't touch him .... he is a soldier ... And also "Hitlers - come and go, but the people remain ..." V. I. Stalin
    3. 0
      8 March 2014 18: 33
      You know, stas57, I understand his difficult situation, but I'm not proud of him. There is a hash in his head that he is trying to figure out. So far, in fact, he is pouring water on the mill by the fascist junta in Kiev, and does not protect the people of Ukraine. God forbid a third force will provoke a collision.
    4. +1
      8 March 2014 19: 18
      man! respect and honor!
      1. +5
        8 March 2014 21: 50
        Quote: awg75
        man! respect and honor!

        Already wrote, but will be back again.
        Who is this "man"will set tasks? The people about whose oath he babbles?
        Or a directive will come from captured by non-legitimate banderlogs Kiev from Turchinov, "Rabbit" or even Parubiy, he rules the National Security Council (or even from Sashko Bilogo) and the "man" will start thinking and talking about the oath again? Carry nonsense that the army, they say, is out of politics.
        All such "men" must clearly understand that "fateful moments" are coming and it is not possible to sit out in their military camps. Yes
        Or hand over the "zbroy" and go to Nenka, serve the banderlog, or Crimea, Russia. And don't fucking babble about the oath.
        You can, of course, try to shed blood, protecting the Banderlozh rights, but you should remember that such actions are deadly for yourself.
        Does anyone see a third way?
        1. -5
          9 March 2014 10: 47
          Quote: awg75
          man! respect and honor!

          Let’s without unnecessary cries - this lieutenant colonel is our enemy !!!!! Respectable, but ENEMY!
          Quote: Alekseev
          Or hand over the "zbroy" and go to Nenka, serve the banderlog, or Crimea, Russia.

          And what are his prospects in our army? Yes, not any, so that he will stand for "independence" ... But all the same, as a soldier, and a person who has already gone through similar things, I understand him and sympathize ...
          BUT HE IS THE ENEMY
          1. +3
            9 March 2014 14: 35
            BUT HE IS THE ENEMY

            how is everything simple for you, everything is clear, but for the day, Ukrainians are not my enemies, and the military are not enemies,
            for me, the enemies are Nazis, fascists, nationalists, and not the entire Ukrainian people
            1. 0
              9 March 2014 18: 58
              Quote: Stas57
              for me, the enemies are Nazis, fascists, nationalists, and not the entire Ukrainian people

              If it were all so simple ... and so, the whole hassle is that if an armed conflict starts now, then we will have to fight not with the PSs, but with these guys ... So what you want you don’t want, but as a military man I have to evaluate him as an enemy ...
              It looks like we are again stepping on the old rake ... They will not sing "Internationale" under our bombs ... just think about why, these "loyal to the people of Ukraine" soldiers, without a fight, give up weapons in western Ukraine, all trash, and in the east - they rested and do not want, so on whose side are they? Answer yourself.
    5. +2
      8 March 2014 20: 29
      I ask everyone to reduce the intensity of passions, mockery and accusations of Ukrainian soldiers and officers honestly carrying out their service

      I fully support! We are a single nation, laughing at ourselves for the sake of the Jews who divided and continue to share a single RUSSIAN PEOPLE.
      I sincerely grieve that millions of our brothers have been brainwashed by propaganda and they believe in the lodges they say about Russia. Moreover, not only in Ukraine, but also in Russia, a poll on Fontanka.ru 29,3% answered that Russia's actions are "occupation". The occupation of the Russian land !!!
      1. badger1974
        +1
        9 March 2014 06: 51
        banderlogs are not friends to us, they were banderlogs, they will remain them, it’s a stigma, and put the fountain to yourself away, you have to be here and interrogate here in Crimea, and not distribute — we are one people with the outskirts — never when we were not the same as banderlogs, We Crimeans 20 years were strangers in this outskirts of the swamp
      2. +3
        9 March 2014 11: 41
        Yes, we have here in St. Petersburg trash rot from 5 columns, but there are honest and objective people.
    6. +2
      8 March 2014 23: 36
      Quote: Stas57
      Before publishing on them and giggling, remember 2 of the moment-
      - we specifically want to play off and provoke fratricide.
      -we need to respect their choice and allegiance to the oath of even such absurdities as Ukraine.

      That’s the whole tragedy that our guys went to fight with the Nazis, and these creatures have now taken refuge behind the backs of such servants ... So, here you don’t giggle, but you need to think well how to pull such people to your side ...
      And the last - it would not be difficult and disgusting, but all parts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces should be disarmed or withdrawn from the Crimea ... there simply is no other way, history is rarely made with a white glove.
    7. +1
      9 March 2014 12: 27
      I agree, handsome man. A real military man. And he is ours, a Slav.
      The trouble is that prostitute politicians play their games, and people suffer.
  14. +32
    8 March 2014 10: 11
    Air Force Base in Belbek (continued):

    1. +3
      8 March 2014 10: 56
      Be patient! After March 16, you are with us !!! No one will be able to dictate what and how to do you !!! I am proud of you like you thank you !!!!
    2. +10
      8 March 2014 12: 12
      Deputy Politician Shapovalov. - America is with us.
      That the politicians are always the first to surrender?
      1. +2
        8 March 2014 13: 26
        What kind of politics, such and politicians. Since Khrushchev began to engage in voluntarism, there are no honest politicians in our army - and how can they be if each new leader declares the previous one guilty ... He spoke in the 80s with veterans - they said that after the exposing congress, when Stalin's puppeteer he made a mistake, about 15 percent of the political leaders died within a year - who shot himself, who drank quickly, another 30 percent filed reports, and the rest became political prostitutes, not ampolites, since then it has become common practice in our and then in the Ukrainian army. ..
      2. -3
        8 March 2014 17: 52
        always, if there is no rear detachment of the NKVD
    3. +12
      8 March 2014 15: 17
      Thanks to the Veteran of Belbek. Though she let her soul go
    4. 0
      9 March 2014 14: 34
      Pubic bones!
  15. ed65b
    +6
    8 March 2014 10: 16
    I look at the photos of Ukrainian boys and immediately come to mind 08.08.08. Ragans. Whatever you say, our soldiers have qualitatively changed for the better. I even envy them in my soul and am proud of Russia. There are changes, there are.
  16. +3
    8 March 2014 10: 20
    It is worth recognizing that Amy propaganda is not working well for 21 years and billions of greens, all they could do was give a shit in the center of Kiev and raise several downs from the hinterlands, and thanks for that, the special services have less work. I hope you still have forces and billions left to solve the problems in the Baltic states, there are also many of our compatriots there.
  17. +5
    8 March 2014 10: 22
    It is a predictable scenario. When you want to live in freedom, and not on the bunk, you need something to distract citizens from this venture. For example, a war game. Kiev accomplices raked themselves problems for the most can not. There is no other way out than on the chopping block of popular anger.
    1. +24
      8 March 2014 12: 43
      Tantrum of power.
      Yesterday, the Crimeans tried to persuade Schuster. Great show! Theological add .. got to the atomic bombs! Like the Americans saw from a satellite how the Russians hook atomic bombs onto strategic bombers. Which are 200 km from Goanitz! For what was sent tries ..
      Crimeans were frightened by poverty, the threat of irreversible processes in the world and in Russia itself, the death of the brightest sprouts of the revolution and the holiday season.
      The future of civilization is in the hands of the Crimea!
      Scarecrows blockade, by storm, riots.
      Offered the broadest powers of autonomy and 100% taxes!
      Aksenov in a teleconference did well.
      In the end, a strong Crimean uncle called it a tantrum when a cock pecked.
      1. wax
        +4
        8 March 2014 20: 13
        The junta does not lie, even Kuchma cut off the powers of the Crimea, despite the previous Crimean referendum. By the way, shouting against today's referendum in Crimea is generally ridiculous, because more than 10 years ago Crimeans decided their fate precisely in a referendum.
      2. 0
        8 March 2014 22: 41
        Who is the theological? Colleague, if there is a link to this show on YouTube - please post it!
        1. +5
          8 March 2014 22: 45
          Enemies need to know in person. Comrades, we’re not negative, I laid out only to show what extra power was eaten by the Ukrainian authorities.
          1. wanderer_032
            +8
            9 March 2014 01: 06
            Typical "six" of the United States, trying to score political points among the protectorate.
            Rubbing "glasses" on this very protectorate.
            The fact that I called him "the six" is also justified, because this "official sub-face" has been actively and for a long time cooperating with the United States. He also studied there in 1994. which he himself confirmed in this TV show.
            He also balamutes the Ukrainian youth to ask for military support from the EU and the USA and does not deny his nationalist views.
            In general, still ha ... apparently.
          2. +4
            9 March 2014 01: 06
            Railway worker

            Theological Inna ... In your excerpt she is at 40 seconds. She has long been attached to the regionals, which the followers of the "winter generation" did not expect from her. She became famous for the inspirational "torture" of Timoshenko at all venues. The first one jumped from the Party of Regions after the nix. He speculates with his native Kharkov.
            1. +2
              9 March 2014 01: 20
              And here she is. Meet Inna Bogoslovsaka burns!

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phWRbMlhp7o

              11.50 - atomic bombs
              1. +3
                9 March 2014 14: 48
                Quote: Rubs
                Meet Inna Bogoslovsaka burns!

                Oh yeah! However! Aunt surpassed even Baltic politicians sad If you listen to this every day, then your face twitches (like Putin's).
                Mom called up with a friend - a Kiev woman. She says: ... finally, honest people have come to power ... golden eagle animals ... Russian tanks at Perekop ... Chechens in Crimea ... this is a war ... you (Russians) are being zombified! Smart woman accountant recourse
                And we have a television, but this is hard to imagine.
                PS 28 bombers - power!
          3. +2
            10 March 2014 10: 15
            Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
            to what extra * s * the Ukrainian authorities ate.

            I could not watch it to the end, since all the principles of the greatest "liar" - Gebels are used here
            - To believe in a lie, it must be monstrous.
            “You can only lie when you are definitely not caught or caught too late.”
            - The only criterion in deciding whether propaganda should operate with truth or falsehood is credibility.
            - Fiction is advisable if it cannot be refuted.

            Yes, on our side there is - not sincerity, but I am sure that history will judge and justify us, it seems in this situation, otherwise it was simply impossible, but here is what this ... "boss" says ... I have No words, only emotions, but now they only interfere ...
            I know that this ACCESSOR will live well under ANY AUTHORITY ...
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          6. +2
            10 March 2014 10: 23
            And now the question for the brothers Ukrainians - what do you think, what is the degree of guilt of a person who was THREE EXTERNAL Minister of Defense of your country, in the plight of your Armed Forces?
            The fact that you know the answer perfectly says this joke:
            Bogatyrev is asked:
            -Why do you oppose the resignation of Gritsenko?
            - Because only a woman who also does not understand anything in military affairs can protect a civilian defense minister.


            And what he says, well, the former member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union must prove that he is "more Ukrainian than all Ukrainians" ...
        2. captain
          0
          13 March 2014 04: 32
          A theological political prostitute, she is nailed to those who are in power, for example, half a year ago she was in the Party of Regions, before that Yushchenko was, before him with Kui, now with these "Brown" - in short, just just go here )))
  18. +10
    8 March 2014 10: 48
    they continued to cheer themselves with shouts of "AMERICA WITH US" and we will say God with us
    1. +1
      10 March 2014 15: 18
      Quote: Aleksandr
      they continued to cheer themselves with shouts of "AMERICA WITH US" and we will say God with us

      ... and the TRUTH!
  19. +3
    8 March 2014 10: 48
    And with what joy should the Ukrainian military be obliged for a second to whom they are obliged to obey, who can order them under a living, legitimate president? These loops play out, oh play out.
    1. 0
      10 March 2014 15: 20
      Quote: Strezhevchanin
      And with what joy should the Ukrainian military be obliged for a second to whom they are obliged to obey, who can order them under a living, legitimate president?
      Yes, the trouble is that this "alive - legitimate", it would be better to die with a weapon in his hands, defending himself, and so he SUBMITTED ALL the siloviki and with all his actions killed the faith in the strength of the state, ...
  20. +6
    8 March 2014 10: 50
    Quote: ed65b
    I look at the photos of Ukrainian boys and immediately come to mind 08.08.08. Ragans. Whatever you say, our soldiers have qualitatively changed for the better. I even envy them in my soul and am proud of Russia. There are changes, there are.


    There are changes and will be. Ours in Crimea are dressed in Serdyukov’s uniform, and already on the approach of the VKBO! In English-language forums, the jaw droops open, for some reason they thought that ours were still in cotton and s / w. laughing
    1. 0
      10 March 2014 15: 23
      Quote: silver169
      Ours in Crimea are dressed in Serdyukov’s uniform, and already on the approach of the VKBO!

      Yes, no, the uniform is from, Shoigu, without shoulder straps on his stomach, and where they should be, and "Warrior", the same Shoigu gave the move to the troops ...
  21. parus2nik
    +6
    8 March 2014 11: 05
    The Ukrainian army, hell knows that .. The top officer corps is a gathering of cowards .. it would be possible to take decisive measures and there were no Maidan, but the army chose neutrality .. And when the army is neutral, it is not combat ready ..
  22. +5
    8 March 2014 11: 19
    The army is officers - conscious careerists and rank and file - 18 year old boys. The officers understand everything, there will always be someone who will execute any order (remember the shooting of the white house in Moscow). And the boys are the boys, there is no mind yet, they gave machine guns who the enemy is and why they explained forward. After all, even from the age of 21 they have been selling vodka, and it’s not just like that. But the main fighting on the blood will be journalists. To win in such a war is not possible, because the truth is none of them are of interest. The only way out is to immediately annex Crimea and declare that any attack is an act of war with Russia, all military equipment 40 km from the border will be destroyed. And defiantly prepare a strike from the north and east. They have few troops, either abandon everything and concentrate their forces on the Crimea, or forget about the Crimea and cover the rebellious areas, or send NATO troops. Will the Germans agree to fight for Ukraine, I doubt it.
    1. wax
      +1
      8 March 2014 20: 38
      In response to the breakthrough to the Crimea, it’s nice to occupy Kiev.
      1. 0
        10 March 2014 13: 36
        Quote: Wax
        In response to the breakthrough to the Crimea, it’s nice to occupy Kiev.

        No - RELEASE ALL UKRAINE, although Western regions can not be touched, high live as they can, without east and south ...
  23. 16101955
    +7
    8 March 2014 11: 30
    May Day parade in Kiev in 2014.
  24. +6
    8 March 2014 11: 36
    The Lord does not bring an armed conflict, because even here in Latvia every second or third person is a relative in Ukraine through his uncle or aunt, I'm not talking about Russia ...
    1. +5
      8 March 2014 20: 33
      Quote: Bosk
      The Lord does not bring an armed conflict, because even here in Latvia every second or third person is a relative in Ukraine through his uncle or aunt, I'm not talking about Russia ...

      Unfortunately, there has never been a reunion without blood ...
  25. +8
    8 March 2014 11: 59
    It seems to me that the Americans, knowing their vile little heart, will be closer to March 16 to arrange some garbage! Because it is obvious that the people in Crimea have a head on the shoulders of the Soledarin to the actions of Russia, and their bright heads do not lend themselves to washing on TV. So p.i.s.d.s.s. probably scratch turnips as if to spoil.
  26. +4
    8 March 2014 12: 59
    I certainly don’t know, but for me this video has become indicative !!!!!!! and how they relate there to the Russian language and generally to everything !!! I think the border guards are already thinking how to get back)))))))))))
    1. uhjpysq1
      -1
      8 March 2014 14: 14
      idiots) some sort of and not border guards)))) hehanki yes khahanki)) laughter in the ranks) even teams with a translator perform
      1. +1
        8 March 2014 14: 30
        Commands "at attention" did not arrive, and therefore stand accordingly.
  27. RN40Y45
    0
    8 March 2014 13: 27
    I, the only one who does not understand, for what h..m, now force the Ukrainian military to surrender weapons?
    1. +8
      8 March 2014 14: 05
      Quote: RN40Y45
      I, the only one who does not understand

      You are not considering the option that an order will come from Kiev to shoot?
  28. Leshka
    0
    8 March 2014 13: 32
    just an information war is on and people believe that we attacked Ukraine
  29. +6
    8 March 2014 13: 32
    Quote: sergey32
    What kind of officers are these? They went into a psychic attack under the guise of their women. They worked for the cameras. Bad actors, bad performance.


    America is with them! Heroes are fucking.
  30. +13
    8 March 2014 14: 00
    A.S. Pushkin 1831 TREASURES OF RUSSIA
    What are you noisy about, folk-like?
    Why anathema threaten you Russia?
    What angered you? unrest in Lithuania?
    Leave: this is a dispute between the Slavs,
    Home, old dispute, weighted by fate,
    A question that you will not solve.
    For a long time among themselves
    These tribes are at war;
    More than once bowed under a thunderstorm
    Theirs, then our side.
    Who will stand in an unequal dispute:
    Puffy Lyakh, il true Ross?
    Will Slavic streams merge in the Russian sea?
    Will it run dry? here is the question.
    Leave us: you have not read
    These bloody tablets;
    It’s incomprehensible to you, alien to you
    This is a family feud;
    The Kremlin and Prague are silent for you;
    Pointlessly seduces you
    Fights of desperate courage -
    And you hate us ...
    For what? answer: for whether
    What is on the ruins of flaming Moscow
    We did not recognize the brazen will
    Who were you trembling under?
    For the fact that they plunged into the abyss
    We are idol over kingdoms
    And with our blood they atoned Europe for liberty, honor and peace? ..
    You are formidable in words - try in practice!
    Or the old hero, deceased on his bed,
    Unable to screw up your Izmail bayonet?
    Is the Russian tsar already powerless to speak?
    Or should we argue with Europe new?
    Ile Russian lost touch with victories? Or few of us?
    Or from Perm to Tauris,
    From the Finnish cold rocks to the flaming Colchis,
    From the shocked Kremlin
    To the walls of immobile China,
    Shiny bristles,
    Will not the Russian land rise? ..
    So send us to us, Vitia,
    His angry sons:
    There is a place for them in the fields of Russia,
    Among the coffins that are not theirs.
    1. uhjpysq1
      0
      8 March 2014 14: 16
      ) pound banderlog in the woods)) Canadian)))
    2. +1
      8 March 2014 15: 35
      Quote: VasDA
      Will Slavic streams merge in the Russian sea?

      And here's more https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = PZwpiDiaAJM
  31. +4
    8 March 2014 15: 07
    Quote: article
    The information war does not tolerate prejudice and does not disdain lies

    I regularly watch the Ukrainian TV channel "Inter +". I see that they are feeding the Ukrainian people.
    Yesterday, the news reported on the disappearance of a group of three Ukrainian officers.
    This is to be expected. Provocateurs will stop at nothing.
    There, they reportedly allegedly, through the lips of the commander of a military base in Crimea, about threats to the commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet (!!!) of seizing the base, regardless of the losses.
    There it is. The commander of the Black Sea Fleet himself came to the man with shoulder straps of the lieutenant colonel.
    This is for all that conspiracy thesis ...
    They lie creatures, not wincing.
    1. foka-alf
      +3
      8 March 2014 18: 28
      Strange, but to me in a dream comes Mila Yvovich.
      Well, the lieutenant colonel’s dreams.
      Regards from Khabarovsk
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  32. coserg 2012
    +2
    8 March 2014 15: 21
    The sun had to intervene and scatter everyone around at the beginning of the Maidan. Now it came to pass, but everything fell apart. Real officers are determined quickly, since everything happened in more than one second, and everyone probably lost the situation in the head. convinced otherwise. They emigrated the country, and now only collect jigsaw puzzles, patiently and for a long time. They should be offended by Russia, the Armed Forces of Ukraine could have done it themselves. Probably, or the kickers were at the head of the Armed Forces or dollar sheep.
  33. 0
    8 March 2014 16: 09
    Quote: Flood
    There, they reportedly allegedly, through the lips of the commander of a military base in Crimea, about threats to the commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet (!!!) of seizing the base, regardless of the losses.
    There it is. The commander of the Black Sea Fleet himself came to the man with shoulder straps of the lieutenant colonel.

    The same plot. Watch from about 30:50
    http://podrobnosti.ua/videoarchive/2014/03/07/7303.html
  34. +4
    8 March 2014 16: 44
    Quote: mnbv199
    Whoever has the time, you can argue with opponents and try to prove your point


    You can bring their point of view, arguments, destroy the arguments of the enemy.
    You can hardly prove anything (to whom?).
    If these people are in the service (there are many of them), then your efforts are futile.
    If they have convictions, then it will not work to change their minds, a "technique of creating beliefs" is needed.
    Entering into an argument, you will simply waste your energy and time in fruitless attempts to "prove". To promote your point of view, controversy is often unnecessary. Unless this is not a level of controversy, but a discussion, where your opinion can be heard by an opponent.
    This does not mean that there is no need to argue at all, consider the appropriateness and level.
  35. +4
    8 March 2014 16: 45
    The Ukrainian Armed Forces are a sad sight. On the other hand, why should they be different? After 20 years of their persistent collapse? All talk about the oath to the Ukrainian people in favor of the poor. It is clear that a coup took place in the country and the army did not react. Why such an army? For neutrality? So it has long been violated by the radicals. Or were there no attacks on military units with the seizure of weapons? Or there were no reprisals against the unarmed "enemies of the revolution"? So, according to the logic of the Ukrainian military, they are not the people of Ukraine. The high command thought And now the radicals demand weapons and control over the units. And the deputies of the Ministry of Defense began to fly. Because they understand how this will all end. Now you can leave, like I did not follow their lead. But you calmly watched as they seized power. These people have no right to speak of honor and oath, because they themselves have for their entire service. did not understand what was at stake.
  36. +3
    8 March 2014 17: 54
    That he is Ukrainian. an army with still Soviet equipment that is often ineffective is a banal fact. But there are two facts about morale. Firstly, the current government, following the example of the civil war of 1918, assigned to the commanders of its militants - "pseudo-commissars" (Zhytomyr Airborne Brigade), secondly, an order was issued on the rotation of commanders of units of the southeast of Ukraine (as potentially unreliable in the confrontation with the Russian Federation) to natives of the Galician regions. Those. they understand that neither the lads with sticks, nor the regular military men want to get involved in a war with the RF Armed Forces - they are afraid.
  37. zev
    zev
    +2
    8 March 2014 18: 28
    I have been reading your site for a long time (thanks to the authors of interesting and informative materials: text, photos, videos). Let me express my personal views on what is happening (known political events). In my opinion, almost every generation of the Russian people (I do not like the word "Russians") had a chance to "climb the military Golgotha: only from the beginning of the last century: Japanese, 1st MV; Civil, Khasan; Khalkin-Gol; Finnish; 2- I am MV (VO V), Afghan. It is sad to talk about this, but it is very likely that our generation may have a similar fate (God forbid, it will not be said in vain). In my opinion (I would like to Russia is not ready for such tests. My arguments: 1) The state of the army (the work of the ex-minister of defense with his "associates"; 2) There is no homogeneity of society, which was before the VOV (there is no military mobilization ideology at all, like the ideology of development has not yet been formulated); 3) the presence in the country of a "fifth column" - there are many examples of this, they are in reality: the TV channel "Dozhd"; "Echo of Moscow"; Makarevich, etc., you can count for a very long time. these are not opponents at all - they are hidden enemies of my Motherland, ready to stab in the back at the decisive hour (and these are not "beautiful " the words); fooling young people (in the literal sense): the state of education - schools, high schools, demolition of the Academy of Sciences; 4) The state of the mass media. information, the main thing is TV. Watch the program for the week: at least half of the films are from the United States and Western countries. 5) An obvious loss in the information confrontation. For the second time we are stepping on the same rake (remember 2008, Abkhazia and South Ossetia. 5) And we cannot delude ourselves that we are "brothers forever". Unfortunately, by now, it's all in the past. The doctrine that in the event of war "the working class of Germany will support us and rise up against its oppressors" was also intensively implanted before the VOV. How it all happened, everyone knows. Let's not forget the words of our great compatriots "" Remember the war! ... (Admiral SO Makarov); "Russia has only 2 allies: the Russian Army and the Russian Fleet" (Alexander III)
    Thanks to everyone who has read to the end of my incontinence. But, as Vereshchagin used to say: "... It's a shame for the state ...: I would be grateful to everyone who makes my" considerations "an opponent
    1. +4
      8 March 2014 20: 13
      When in a dark corner a couple of gopniks approach you, are you ready to fight? But you must. You minus for demagoguery.
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    3. +2
      8 March 2014 20: 34
      In my opinion (I would like to be mistaken in this regard) Russia is not ready for such tests


      I’m ready. Three green whistles - a bayonet-knife on Kalash and forward - to crush Bandera rot with nits Yarosh and Sashko Bilym at the head.
    4. +4
      8 March 2014 21: 35
      Why oppose? Everything you say is correct. But! Ever was Russia ready for war? At least to those that you have listed? And if we now take the position of an outside observer on the Ukrainian issue, then, I am convinced, in a few years we will have banderlog in the south of Russia, and sworn "friends" in Crimea and Odessa. And I (although half Ukrainian) do not shine the accession of my land to the great ukram.
    5. badger1974
      0
      10 March 2014 00: 35
      it's strange how you just quoted Vereshchyagin after "processing" after Comrade Sukhov (remember Kuznetsov), and before that Vereshchyagin easily missed the counter-band from Abdula, so you have to live in Crimea for 23 years, and then mold your mind - doctrine or justice
    6. 0
      10 March 2014 14: 50
      The aggressor is preparing for war. Russians do not win for an unrighteous purpose. But righteous anger is sustained from above. Although you have to pay dearly for this, skipping the first blow.
    7. 0
      11 March 2014 19: 18
      Dear Zev. I have one question about your post. No brothers forever it's true. And what is the fifth column. To criticize does not mean to hate. If you like to see one side of the problem and not see the other, then you need to live like under Stalin or Hitler. And how is Galich?

      And you will understand that there is no judgment on you,
      No curse of yesteryear
      When together with everyone you say yes!
      And with everyone - no!

      And you will produce wolves on earth,
      And teach them to wag their tail!
      And then you have to pay,
      So it’s understand, then - then!

      and second

      About how long, how long
      And not here, but everywhere -
      There will be klodt horses
      Obey the bridle ?!

      And still, not easier
      Our age is trying us:
      Can you go to the square?
      Dare to go out to the square?
      You can go to the square,
      Dare to go to the square
      At that appointed hour ?!

      This is what I mean, not to love power and love Russia can and should be the Gorbachevs, Yeltsins, Putin come and go and Russia remains. And how Russians and Ukrainians will live does not depend on them (with their Napoleonic complexes), but on US. Sincerely smile
      1. zev
        zev
        0
        11 March 2014 22: 37
        Dear denis 02135! Thank you for noticing my words. I answer your question: "The 5th column" are people (in my understanding) who, in the days of the Fatherland's trials, inflict "stabs in the back", nothing more. And I did not mean constructive criticism at all. You justly cited A. Galich as an example. I can add: A. Zinoviev ("... they aimed at communism - they got to Russia ..."). At the end of your comment, you mentioned three presidents. With the two singers, everything is clear. As for the third, my considerations are as follows. "President" is a position (no more). "Leader" is the leader of the people (nation). Stalin was the clear leader, Hitler was the same (with an obvious "minus" sign). Putin is now facing the "moment of truth" , which, quite possibly, will come on the night of March 3 (as I would like to be mistaken). Good luck denis 16!
      2. zev
        zev
        0
        12 March 2014 08: 47
        denis02135. In today's issue of VO there is such an article: http://topwar.ru/41128-hozyaeva-ukrainskogo-reyha-gotovyat-voennuyu-provokaciyu-
        rossii-pora-nachinat-deystvovat-na-operezhenie.html # comment-id-2061759

        It contains a detailed answer to your question about the "5th column". And, in general, - an article on the case
  38. +2
    8 March 2014 19: 08
    Quote: Stas57
    I ask everyone to reduce the intensity of passions, mockery and accusations of Ukrainian soldiers and officers honestly carrying out their service
    Before publishing on them and giggling, remember 2 of the moment-
    - we specifically want to play off and provoke fratricide.
    -we need to respect their choice and allegiance to the oath of even such absurdities as Ukraine.



    Well said.

    1. +7
      8 March 2014 19: 45
      ) it is worth understanding only one moment that this regiment, obeying the oath, so to speak, will give the order to shoot people - our people. and fuck me for all his excuses - he is an enemy, an enemy of my people, an enemy of my country.
      1. 0
        10 March 2014 14: 56
        Quote: formidable
        and fuck me for all his excuses - he is the enemy, the enemy of my people, the enemy of my country

        No need to shift the blame of corrupt politicians, insatiable oligarchs and non-student inhabitants to the military. It's like kicking not at the bandit shooting at you, but not at the gun, which, bastard, did not misfire.
  39. +8
    8 March 2014 19: 36
    Looking through the news from the central Ukrainian anals and comparing with reliable information, I realized one thing: all the tension in the Crimea can be removed without much loss among the population and the armed forces. It is enough to simply remove all Ukrainian and import magazines from there.
    Explaining! Recently there was material in the news, how a journalist tries to interview polite people, and then, after an interruption, there is material, as a man from the people's militia prevents him from "interviewing". A little later, I found the full version, where in the "interruption" between the first and second material, this informational prostitute swears at polite people, Shoigu, Russia and almost throws fists at them. Naturally, this was not shown in the "most truthful" news.
    All Ukrainian and Western media are sheer provocateurs, and some of them are also fighters' coordinators, spies, and special services workers. Therefore, after each biased material, all reporters of specific media outlets who provided this material in this form must immediately be declared persona non grata. And if they are found on the territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, they must "disappear without a trace", in full force, the whole group, immediately after the equipment is removed. After that, not a single channel of any fraudulent media will stick in there, there will be no one to punish the water, to collect information too.
    1. +3
      8 March 2014 22: 48
      I'm patsstalom. I just watched in the news how the reporters of Inter in Crimea raked off the stars. Did it just coincide with my post or is Big Brother reading our posts? laughing
      In any case, a good start. It seems like they took the equipment and documents, such as warned.
  40. +1
    8 March 2014 20: 21
    Quote: formidable
    ) it is worth understanding only one moment that this regiment, obeying the oath, so to speak, will give the order to shoot people - our people. and fuck me for all his excuses - he is an enemy, an enemy of my people, an enemy of my country.


    I agree, there will be no time for reasoning. Once you gave the order, then get it back. But since he "lit up", then his first and slam. "Classics of the genre".
  41. kurtz755
    -1
    8 March 2014 20: 47
    Quote: little house
    ) noticeably nervous) obviously not sure about his future) now he is a colonel, and tomorrow no one) but how he wants to be a colonel)))))))) smear the heels with svidomyo fat)
    That's right, nervous. Who is not nervous in the Ukrainian army now? The servicemen swore allegiance to the People of Ukraine and not to politicians. And from the fact that the people themselves are now divided, you will not only get nervous, but you will also start drinking "bitter". And it is true that he is unsure of his future. It was not he who started this whole mess, but he will have to die, in which case (God forbid, of course). And they will make him the extreme again, like Berkut and VVshnikov. As a former soldier of the Ukrainian army, I understand him. And I can openly declare that I will not fight against Russia. He is deprived of this by his Oath. In the meantime, I can only wish the lieutenant colonel restraint and not get involved in political games.

    And the "people of Ukraine", who is this ???
    1. +1
      8 March 2014 20: 58
      Apparently for this colonel, the "people of Ukraine" is the "commander of the people's squads" Yarosh.
  42. +2
    8 March 2014 21: 28
    Quote: Wax
    Most likely there will be an attempt at a tank breakthrough on the isthmus. It seems to me that the isthmus must be urgently barricaded with anti-tank "hedgehogs" to great depths. And also to close Crimea for entry and exit from March 15 to March 17 without special permits


    Everything is already mined there, the photo is posted on the network and in the next topic.
  43. +4
    8 March 2014 21: 37
    Quote: Stas57
    many people like to kick this guy, that he didn’t give up, and I'm proud of him!
    A real Russian soldier! Although under the flag of Ukraine.


    For reference, the Feodosia battalion is equipped with 80% immigrants from the western regions of Ukraine ... I've listened to him and thought about this info ... Yushchenko, in his time, or rather, with his own hands, began a personnel policy in Ukraine in the army and law enforcement agencies . The bottom line is to occupy all command posts by immigrants from the western regions, if possible, form all special units only from immigrants from the western regions, and subsequently, with the army going on a contract basis, recruit ONLY in the western regions of Ukraine. so do not flatter yourself.
  44. sled beach
    +1
    8 March 2014 21: 54
    The irony is that for us, the rank and file, this is pain, deprivation and anger, and for America, an upswing in the economy and a happy and long life. If the stripy-bellied ones can get enough meat, they’ll provide the equipment and the management team, and the management staff from but there are already trained Kraintsy. Everything rests on a people who silently blink their eyes and wait for a new owner. How willless is waiting for the outcome of the cable battle! They are afraid of people, their reactions, because people are the masses that force makes the final verdict, the main thing here is not to scare , not to embitter, not to press hard so that you have time to get used to the new pain. And there you look and take root another star in the stripes.
    1. 0
      10 March 2014 15: 13
      This is not ironic. This is called "controlled chaos" - bringing strong opponents to degradation while maintaining order in selected territories. They even have a version of a global nuclear war worked out. The United States, too, is merging into riots. And these "chosen ones" even shoot films how they live there (in orbit) in paradise, and the people here shoot each other.
  45. vadim_ukr
    -5
    9 March 2014 00: 29
    attempts to infringe on the rights, deprive the right to vote or physically eliminate those residents of Ukraine who still remember that they are Russian

    I live in Krivoy Rog (Ukraine), I am Russian, and I speak Russian. And no one oppresses me for my Russian language and my nationality.
    I do not like either Turchinov or Senya the rabbit and the hedgehog with them, and the way that brought them to power.
    But I also don't like the "unidentified" (read Russian) "polite people" who are now on Ukrainian soil, and who are taking over Ukrainian institutions.
    If it’s banal to consider this issue, it turns out that your friend without your consent occupied a room in your apartment and sets its own rules there. How do you feel about such a friend in the future?
    1. +2
      9 March 2014 01: 05
      Quote: vadim_ukr
      attempts to infringe on the rights, deprive the right to vote or physically eliminate those residents of Ukraine who still remember that they are Russian

      I live in Krivoy Rog (Ukraine), I am Russian, and I speak Russian. And no one oppresses me for my Russian language and my nationality.
      ......
      If it’s banal to consider this issue, it turns out that your friend without your consent occupied a room in your apartment and sets its own rules there. How do you feel about such a friend in the future?

      )))) Because you do not touch, I must believe that they do not touch anyone.
      )))) I also had such friends, they did not become enemies from this.
      1. +3
        9 March 2014 01: 09
        Rather, the apartment itself is not yours. After the events in 1991, the apartment was simply "privatized"
        1. +1
          9 March 2014 01: 43
          Quote: Aragorn
          Rather, the apartment itself is not yours. After the events in 1991, the apartment was simply "privatized"

          Well, you could say that, because Crimea was and is Russian and the population there is Russian, even if Ukrainians.
    2. sokolp
      +12
      9 March 2014 01: 31
      You are a provocateur speaking Russian in order to promote your lies.
      I live in Odessa and see what is happening around-the office work in Russian is prohibited (for a long time), it is forbidden for state institutions to keep websites and pages on them in Russian (by March 10), the law on regional "languages" has been canceled and the law on languages ​​is introduced instead minorities are Russian national minorities? A gradual romanization of the alphabet is introduced, followed by the rejection of the Cyrillic alphabet (draft law on languages) We have closed two Russian-language TV channels in our city, the radio is dominated by the Ukrainian broadcasting quota. "leaders" who made their way into the government or standing behind the backs of ministers - to create a ministry of Ukrainian consciousness and to exterminate the Russian and Russian languages ​​by introducing criminal prosecution for those who use the Russian language (tyagnibok), etc. What the fascists chant on the streets of the proud hero Odessa - "Russians at knives"
      And you blind mole at your place there you don't see and hear all this? Suppose that you are Russian, yes, you will be the first to sing the hymn "Still not dead," every day, your name is public girls (that is, corrupt creatures).
    3. +4
      10 March 2014 15: 19
      Quote: vadim_ukr
      If it’s banal to consider this issue, it turns out that your friend took a room in your apartment without your consent and sets his own rules there. How do you feel about such a friend in the future?

      Your friend just saw that you were going to rent your apartment to criminals. And this is very dangerous for him, and for you, and for the whole house. Therefore, no one oppresses you, because you have a STRONG friend. Treasure your friendship with him, otherwise you will serve slippers to your new tenants.
      1. 0
        12 March 2014 16: 03
        Great answer. It is a pity that I can put only 1 plus. Sincerely.
    4. 0
      10 March 2014 15: 30
      It’s just that while I was gone, it’s my friend’s friend who drives my friend of my enemy. I will only thank him wink
  46. jury08
    -19
    9 March 2014 00: 43
    Russia-stop before it's too late !!!! Your commander-in-chief has already refused the Russian soldiers in the Crimea-does not remind you anything! Ukrainians will never forget this blow to your back! Leave Ukraine alone-do not provoke a war!
    1. +7
      9 March 2014 01: 08
      Quote: jury08
      Russia-stop before it's too late !!!! Your commander-in-chief has already refused the Russian soldiers in the Crimea-does not remind you anything! Ukrainians will never forget this blow to your back! Leave Ukraine alone-do not provoke a war!

      Do not tell me how Russia provokes a war.
    2. wanderer_032
      +8
      9 March 2014 01: 24
      Trolls stop and stop lying that Russia provoked and started this war.
      It was started by the bills of the Ukrainian oligarchy together with banderlogs, gay men and mattresses.
      They spat in the soul of the Russian people, humiliating and insulting the memory of our ancestors and nurturing a jackal tribe at their side. They betrayed the Slavic culture and desecrated it; they betrayed the entire Slavic people.
      Kiev is the mother of Russian cities, but a jackal tribe and geeks settled there who demand to ban the Russian language and rewrite the history of the Slavic peoples.
      It is time for them to keep the answer for what they have done with Slavic history and culture.
      It’s time to tear out and burn the weeds of this trash before they destroy the whole garden.
      Until it’s too late, let the lair wind up in their jackal, run there without looking back.
      The fact that they created there is no forgiveness.
    3. sokolp
      +3
      9 March 2014 01: 35
      Do not shriek so zealously "peacemaker", I advise you to talk first with the "right sector" who actually came to power - show them your tolerastnostnost. Then we'll see. What will you scream when you want to live. The question is now just like that, here in Ukraine.
    4. 0
      12 March 2014 16: 07
      You'd better not write anything, otherwise you will look even grayer or "suller".
  47. sokolp
    +1
    9 March 2014 01: 54
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jsrWhZI6NNk Вот о чём думают русские в Украине.
  48. jury08
    -5
    9 March 2014 01: 58
    Quote: wanderer_032
    Trolls stop and stop lying that Russia provoked and started this war.
    It was started by the bills of the Ukrainian oligarchy together with banderlogs, gay men and mattresses.
    They spat in the soul of the Russian people, humiliating and insulting the memory of our ancestors and nurturing a jackal tribe at their side. They betrayed the Slavic culture and desecrated it; they betrayed the entire Slavic people.
    Kiev is the mother of Russian cities, but a jackal tribe and geeks settled there who demand to ban the Russian language and rewrite the history of the Slavic peoples.
    It is time for them to keep the answer for what they have done with Slavic history and culture.
    It’s time to tear out and burn the weeds of this trash before they destroy the whole garden.
    Until it’s too late, let the lair wind up in their jackal, run there without looking back.
    The fact that they created there is no forgiveness.

    What answer YOU if these words are addressed to you by a Ukrainian!
    1. +1
      10 March 2014 15: 27
      Quote: jury08
      What answer YOU if these words are addressed to you by a Ukrainian!

      I must admit that this will be an adequate Ukrainian, who understands that without the help of Russia it will be very difficult to put things in order in the house.
  49. 0
    9 March 2014 02: 02
    The cities directed to the Crimea are already standing, if they are shy, then there will be many victims (((chess is in the active phase!
    1. badger1974
      +5
      9 March 2014 07: 09
      already in Georgia naughty, and where are these cities? and Crimea is not Ossetia, you need to get to the shtob even before the isthmus, if you are geographically illiterate, then at least open the map, questions will disappear by themselves
  50. +8
    9 March 2014 11: 04
    Such an appeal was posted on YouTube:

    1. coserg 2012
      +3
      9 March 2014 22: 35
      Well done! I respect such officers. This shoals should not be, he is thinking!
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  52. ss19
    -9
    9 March 2014 13: 16
    The article was written by a stupid Nazi from Russia. Let me remind you that the main fascist, for those in the tank, is sitting in Russia, or rather in the Kremlin. Comrade Pu started a fratricidal war, he won’t have much time left, and your oligarchs will sweep him away!
    1. alik alik
      +1
      9 March 2014 15: 42
      And your Nazis helped him.
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    3. +3
      9 March 2014 22: 40
      Quote: ss19
      The article was written by a stupid Nazi from Russia. Let me remind you that the main fascist, for those in the tank, is sitting in Russia, or rather in the Kremlin. Comrade Pu started a fratricidal war, he won’t have much time left, and your oligarchs will sweep him away!

      Putin was elected by the people in the elections and so far everything has been within the law. Look in the mirror, there is one of the faces of those who want war.
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    5. +2
      10 March 2014 14: 39
      It’s probably in your roots to blame others for your troubles, you shot at each other, and in the back in a vile way, and now you call our President a “Nazi”, be completely honest, one of your presidents grabbed and lost, now what then the clowns are in power, and their stay in power is generally presumptuous, you destroy each other, tear each other apart, steal, run around with machine guns, the example of the prosecutor in Rivne, thanks to his mother, she opened her eyes to your leaders, this is your reality, put things in order, with your tongue you don’t want to talk with your brains and work with a shovel, and you don’t want to be stupid.
  53. +2
    9 March 2014 13: 23
    And here's another interview:

  54. to tutu
    -7
    9 March 2014 13: 30
    I want to fight and move soldiers7 WELL, WELL! This is up to the first 200!
    1. badger1974
      +3
      9 March 2014 20: 18
      did you collect the 200s in parts and tripe? I’ve done this many times, this is my profession, and I haven’t become callous, but for people like you I’ll make an exception, hour H will be for banderlogs, I think it’s not far off, on the 16th checkmate and after the 20th expect a reaction
    2. +4
      9 March 2014 22: 45
      Quote: tutzhivu
      I want to fight and move soldiers7 WELL, WELL! This is up to the first 200!

      Are you talking about the orders of the Ukrainian Bandit Ministry for relocation or the Ukrainian Bandit Prosecutor's Office for the detention of dissidents?
  55. alik alik
    -2
    9 March 2014 15: 34
    Those who have preserved their honor, faithful to the oath... Many in the 90s already sold the Soviet oath. There were also those who, after taking the oath, ran to the RF Armed Forces to take the Russian oath (mostly for selfish reasons). Paid performance. Although there are also plenty of punched zombies. It is necessary to strengthen the agitation and motivation for leaving Khokhlatsky subordination.
    1. badger1974
      +3
      9 March 2014 20: 22
      you people along the way lived in the stove or in the basement, you even confused how the oath begins and where it begins, the first is the PEOPLE, everything else comes later, for the especially gifted people are not only citizens of the country, but also those who, due to various circumstances, in this ended up in the country, and YOU ARE BENDERLOG
  56. +5
    9 March 2014 17: 30
    The first blood was shed in Kyiv, when Bandera’s followers killed their own fellow citizens, only those wearing shoulder straps and faithful to the oath. It was Berkut and the internal troops of Ukraine in Kyiv who fought for the remnants of statehood and territorial integrity. Really risking his life, and not flaunting his officer’s honor on journalists’ television cameras._________________________________________________________
    . Absolutely true! The true destroyers of the country are destructive and antisocial forces that came from the West. They can only destroy them so imprisoned. How many people with such a sharpening went into the army? Yes, I think not at all (with such and such a position in life). Please correct me if I'm wrong!
  57. Fitter
    -4
    9 March 2014 21: 24
    A Russian sniper fired at a Ukrainian unit in Sevastopol

    Link where I found it: http://charter97.org/ru/news/2014/3/9/89851/

    what do you think it was?
    1. +3
      9 March 2014 22: 52
      Quote: Fitter
      A Russian sniper fired at a Ukrainian unit in Sevastopol

      Link where I found it: http://charter97.org/ru/news/2014/3/9/89851/

      what do you think it was?

      I won’t even watch, I hope the Crimeans catch this sniper
    2. badger1974
      +1
      10 March 2014 00: 43
      or maybe firecrackers? Why is there a huge head at the outskirts star-reward yard? Maybe in the latrine there even a half-cough banged out? funny, let them go to Bandarshtat, they have excellent conditions prepared there
  58. badger1974
    +1
    10 March 2014 00: 45
    LUGANSK, LET'S HOLD ON FOR A LITTLE LITTLE REMAIN, WE'LL COME TO HELP, CRIMEA WILL NOT BE Abandoned
  59. Potin
    0
    10 March 2014 01: 51
    Guys from Ukraine!
    Please provide links to Ukrainian forums discussing events in Ukraine. We will convince Ukrainians where they are wrong.
  60. +1
    10 March 2014 02: 57
    Quote: sokolp
    empty page

    I draw your attention, forum users - this is Banderlog!!! hi
  61. Madlord
    -2
    10 March 2014 03: 23
    Quote: DMB87
    Such an appeal was posted on YouTube:


    Military review, but the automatic is not Ukrainian. Many people know what an information war is, but not many can admit that they have become a victim of this war! Russia, Putin, Russian, Sevastopol, Fatherland, Pride, Glory, Debt, Patriotism is not - Corruption, Poverty, Total drug addiction, Alcoholism. After all, saving the Fatherland and your own is easier than going and putting things in order in your city, in your house, in your head......
    1. +2
      10 March 2014 14: 59
      Quote: Madlord
      ....Corruption, Poverty, Total drug addiction, Alcoholism....

      yes, it's bad in America now
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  62. nownow
    +4
    10 March 2014 12: 36
    If they have to stand up to defend their Motherland, they won’t expect me to shoot at the Russians. I defend them as one nation together with the Ukrainians and Belarusians. I will gladly go to war with the West (this is the real enemy).
  63. +2
    10 March 2014 14: 09
    I’ll take a break from the article a little, the Soviet Union collapsed, now you have all become independent states, with all the attributes, I don’t take the Baltic countries. This is where the most interesting thing comes, during your freedom you said to Russia that we were colonizers, pumped resources out of you, revised history, you have your own power in your countries, you decided for yourself how it is structured. Now I want to ask one question, do your power, development, and mentality correspond to Western democracy, probably not, and this is where this tendency appears, for some reason everyone is bashfully silent about it, both here in Russia and in yours, with such a structure within your countries you I often hear criticism from America and Europe about the violation of human rights, this is not how you build your domestic policy and others. It’s all just talk, why is that, why don’t you suffer the same fate as Libya, Iraq, Grenada, Serbia, etc., yes because the shadow of RUSSIA looms behind your back, I repeat once again, I do not deny your sovereignty to any extent, but there is a shadow and not one power has dared to dictate its rules to you, for example, Uzbekistan left the CSTO, became independent, only a little fundamentalists pressed, it is clear at whose suggestion, they immediately heard the voice of Russia, whether someone wants it or not, the same thing in Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, a special article in Belarus, the economic situation is such that the standard of living is higher than in some European countries, for Old Man at least 80% of the population votes, the absolute majority, but no, they don’t like this, what do you think, if some simple state attacked you, what would Russia do, immediately send in troops to help you, by the way, this also applies to Ukraine and now I will tell the military of Ukraine, since I myself am a former military man, we and you have already been betrayed once, or rather many times already, starting with the collapse of the USSR and your Maidans, you have never betrayed your oath, unlike your politicians, think about it whether to shoot, but wouldn’t it be better to find another way to solve the problem, THINK. I would also like what other countries would THINK about, a simple example of Libya. I don’t know if this will reach you, I would like to, let’s see.
  64. 0
    11 March 2014 12: 45
    The guys may end up setting up the military. In some there is a shell, in others there is a shell. We did this on the Maidan, and in other places, but the scale is frightening. But there were only bullets there....

    Ukrainians! Don’t let yourself be pitted against each other, to the delight of the American and European jackals! They are waiting and can’t wait. Find contacts with each other in the 21st century. Don't let the scumbags rejoice!
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  66. ostin
    -1
    12 March 2014 01: 57
    Quote: DMB87
    Such an appeal was posted on YouTube:


    doesn’t the AK-100 bother you?? fool
    1. 0
      12 March 2014 02: 03
      And the fact that this AK-74M doesn’t bother you? Not at all? bully
  67. +1
    12 March 2014 14: 13
    The history of the Russians, to which I certainly include the Ukrainians and Belarusians, is the history of glory and victories. The history of Banderlogs is shooting in the back, robbery, murder and harassment. And they are not Ukrainians, but a cross between Poles, Ustashas, ​​Magyars, Romanians brewed on the vile Greco-Catholic sectarian faith. But they will never get into NATO; for this they will have to recognize the referendum in Crimea, and the Western trash will never do this. The NATO Charter clearly requires that in order to join the alliance, there must be no territorial disputes.
  68. +6
    12 March 2014 21: 11
    Quote: kare
    And in what language do they communicate on their sites. Although it’s clear what they’re writing about, I don’t understand why the hell
    YOU CAN ALSO COMMUNICATE IN RUSSIAN LANGUAGE. IN UKRAINE HE IS PERFECTLY UNDERSTOOD. AND THE ANSWERS WRITTEN IN UKRAINIAN ARE IN PRINCIPLE UNDERSTANDABLE. IT'S EASY TO DISTINGUISH A NORMAL UKRAINIAN FROM A CRAZY BANDERLOG
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  70. Bam
    Bam
    +1
    13 March 2014 11: 16
    I read all these comments, if you can call them that, and hear not human speech, but an animal growl. Poison, bile, hatred, lies flow in a torrent. As you stand on the other side, so on the other. But I want to say this.
    The second year of military service (1969-1970) took place in Lugansk, Kamennobrodsky district, military unit..... Guards Stalingrad Order of Suvorov,
    Kutuzov division. And this is what I want to ask the senior officers of Ukraine, commanders of corps, divisions, regiments, battalions, etc. Where is your officer's honor? A brown plague, anarchy and lawlessness are creeping across the country. Where is the continuity of generations of fathers and grandfathers. The easiest thing to do is write a report and step aside. “The authorities” want to bring the south and southeast to their knees. God forbid there is some kind of conflict with civilian casualties and a bloody mess. Gentlemen, the officers “commissars” of Benderaism will shove you into this mess by your feet. I ask you to understand me, I am not calling for war within Ukraine, my wife is from Kirovograd, I studied there. GA. Relatives are there, godfathers, etc. I’m just sure that no one other than the Ukrainian Army, represented by honest, highly moral officers who carry high officer’s honor, will stop the brown infection and, God forbid, a civil war.
    1. badger1974
      0
      13 March 2014 11: 59
      Do you hear the peacemaker? go to the outskirts and you will be delighted when your car is burned and your money is confiscated. I hope you’re smart enough not to take Zhinka with you, because before your eyes this kind of shit will happen, although this bander lie in a narcotic frenzy is universally unconventional, so let’s drive it, and then you’ll tell me your impressions, for one thing in our Come to Crimea for comparison
  71. 0
    13 March 2014 15: 25
    Now the time has come for the Ukrainian Armed Forces to maintain neutrality and not get involved in anything. Let the Westerners go to recapture Crimea themselves. The fewer of them left, the better for us.
  72. ValTer200
    0
    13 March 2014 22: 13
    Talking today about the possibility of provocations by the Ukrainian military in Crimea is nonsense
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    13 March 2014 23: 32
    Quote: kripto
    "I swore an oath of allegiance to the Soviet Union" - there is nothing more to add. The oath is given only once !!!

    I also swore an oath to my Motherland. And I don’t care what it’s called: USSR or RF. I took an oath to protect my Land, not its name.
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    13 March 2014 23: 47
    How can you, good gentlemen, see everything wonderfully from the cellar? But you contradict yourself at some points - Ukrainian officers go to their unit under the red banner... And in the same article, almost everyone is rebaptized as Banderaites. So, according to the logic, is this Bandera’s followers under the red banner? Paradox, you know. Now try on the current situation for yourself - here you are serving yourself in peacetime. And suddenly, without a declaration of war, the entrance to the unit is blocked by an armored car and a squad of well-armed guys who declare that entry is prohibited! Of course, as a military man, you report to the authorities about the incident. The command bellows in response - “don’t give in to provocations, don’t open fire!” The investigation begins. But the incomprehensible types (the Crimeans aptly dubbed them “little green men”) are silent. Although according to all secondary signs, they seem to be Russians. Neighbors, brothers! Some evil brothers... What kind of attack would you go on then? Mental? Psychological? Crazy?
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      14 March 2014 00: 21
      Quote: Ukraine
      How can you, good gentlemen, see everything wonderfully from the cellar? But you contradict yourself at some points - Ukrainian officers go to their unit under the red banner... And in the same article, almost everyone is rebaptized as Banderaites. So, according to the logic, is this Bandera’s followers under the red banner? Paradox, you know. Now try on the current situation for yourself - here you are serving yourself in peacetime. And suddenly, without a declaration of war, the entrance to the unit is blocked by an armored car and a squad of well-armed guys who declare that entry is prohibited! Of course, as a military man, you report to the authorities about the incident. The command bellows in response - “don’t give in to provocations, don’t open fire!” The investigation begins. But the incomprehensible types (the Crimeans aptly dubbed them “little green men”) are silent. Although according to all secondary signs, they seem to be Russians. Neighbors, brothers! Some evil brothers... What kind of attack would you go on then? Mental? Psychological? Crazy?

      Igor, without shortening your statement, I will tell you as briefly as I can.
      Odessa 1991, support and security company of the command post of the 60th air defense corps, I am deputy. platoon commander. We were lined up on the parade ground, readiness number 1, and were given weapons. Speech by the political officer: “Yeltsin is calling for a general strike, we won’t allow it, and so on... We didn’t understand at all what was happening then, thank God everything worked out... A couple of days later, the political officer disappeared, we were demobilized.” Came home (Lvov region ), but it turned out that the USSR no longer exists... My father, an officer, did not want to take the Ukrainian oath and we "got" left for our HOMELAND! And my colleagues also "found Transnistria".
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    14 March 2014 23: 23
    This “legitimate” government has already begun to form its own “national guard” (read national punitive detachments) with Western money in order to support its illegal coup, and citizens are being offered to support the Ukrainian Armed Forces using SMS voting... ABSURD. ..

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