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Retreat for blood?

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“The old woman suffered for a long time in high-voltage wires,” - they sang so cheerfully in the former “totalitarian” USSR, when so-called sadistic couplets were fashionable. Eh, then the serene "scoops" in the Ukrainian SSR would know that the poems will be relevant when freedom does come and take possession of the masses. And in a rude and perverted form will take possession. Like 22 February 2014, when the armed masses expel one president, and another comes in his place. A couple of days later, the new “revolutionary” government will declare Ukraine bankrupt. That is, the whole world will tell you that there is no money.


It means that there is nothing to pay pensions and salaries ... “Pomajite, good people, although we are local, we are empty, but we don’t know what to do and go around the world with an outstretched hand”. In the usual pose - the "letter sic", with a bulging ass ...

In addition to the “victory of democracy”, this is, in fact, one of the results of the “overthrow of the criminal junta”, which, nevertheless, regularly paid the bills and at the very least contained the country's economy. The new government announced that within two years it and Ukraine are counting on receiving international financial assistance in the amount of 35 billion dollars. As they say in an old joke about a bear who saw a hippopotamus: “So I would scoop a loaf of bread and honey!”

But in this situation, another is striking. If Russia, which had previously stretched out a hand of financial assistance to the overthrown regime, refused to pay until it was clarified with whom in the new Ukraine it was possible to deal and which of the authorities in it was more or less legitimate, then the West suddenly began to fuss and express its readiness to help the powerful. European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso said that within two years the European Commission was ready to provide Ukraine with a package of financial assistance in the amount of 11 billion euros "from the EU budget and the budget of international financial institutions based in the EU." Greek Foreign Minister Evangelos Venizelos urged the international community to convene a conference to provide urgent financial assistance to Ukraine and save the country from the economic crisis. And the United States said that the amount of US financial aid to Ukraine could be about 1 billion dollars. Small things, several thousand dollars "for poverty" have already given the Czech Republic and Hungary ...

However, such financial pliability is explicable both economically and politically, more precisely, geopolitically. It is clear that under the guise of fighting the “anti-people regime of Viktor Yanukovych” a geopolitical battle for Ukraine between Russia and the West was taking place on the so-called “Euro Maidan”. And the West in Ukraine has prepared for this well and comprehensively and won.

Clear and economic undertones. Both Barroso and European Commission spokesman Pia Arenkilde Hansen unequivocally explained that if an agreement was signed with the IMF to resume lending to Ukraine on the terms of the Fund (Hansen), then this would be a condition for the development of this program (Barroso). The new Prime Minister of Ukraine, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, is said to have fully agreed with the enslaving conditions of the IMF, and now it will not wait for Ukraine what the Foundation’s mission inspecting Ukraine will say about this. But the fact that Ukraine will fall into economic bondage is not even denied by officials of the IMF. That, in principle, is not surprising: this bondage is beneficial for them, and the stagnant European economy needs any new sales markets, the Europeans get them in Ukraine. Could not get under Yanukovych-get under Turchinov / Yatsenyuk ...

However, it seems to me, in stories The newest relations between the West and Ukraine appeared another important factor accelerating the provision of financial assistance to the new Ukrainian “revolutionary” regime. They just buy him off so that he not only strengthened near the "trough", but also kept quiet about how he managed to take power in the wake of popular indignation and on the batons of the "Euromaidan" militants.

In my unenlightened opinion, it’s about the fact that the Estonian Foreign Ministry confirmed the authenticity of the audio recording of a telephone conversation between Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and the EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs Catherine Ashton that appeared on the Internet. These gentlemen talked, of course, about Ukraine, about its Maidan, and about who did what and there. And they actually confirmed what could be seen on Ukrainian television, which almost live broadcast all the vicissitudes of the armed coup 20-22 in February 2014 of the year.

February 20, as we still remember, the armed masses from the Maidan went to storm the positions of the internal troops, who at night tried to clear the Maidan, but were ordered to stop. A real street battle ensued with the use of firearms. weapons, and the first victims went en masse. The TV crews showed it practically online. And in the hastily slyapan plots-inclusions from the Maidan one could see complaining “freedom fighters”, showing the shields with which they covered themselves and which were allegedly punched by sniper bullets. But even then it was possible to see that some shields were punched by shots not in the front, but in the back, which was what the characteristic edges of the holes said. That is, the "fighters" were shot not in the forehead, but in the back. But journalists, who did not serve in the army and did not see the bullet holes before, eagerly worked out the fee for stories about the atrocities of the Berkut snipers.
And in many other frames showing the attacks by law enforcement officers by the maydanschik, one could see the characteristic bark explosives on trees and on the ground on the sides of bullets fired from behind. That is, because of the backs of the attackers, who, as it happens, were shot from behind ...

But the picture changed so quickly, and the hysteria of journalists and in their interviews with the survivors of the slaughter was so vague, but loud, emotional and aggressive, that the matter did not reach conclusions and thoughts. There was no time for this: the kaleidoscope of promotion of the “atrocities of the regime” worked around the clock, continuously and practically at lightning speed.

And now it became clear that the Estonian Foreign Minister Paet, speaking about the conversation with Olga Bogomolets, who assisted the wounded maydanschik, speaks to Mrs. Ashton at the mentioned post: “Olga also said that, according to all available evidence, the people who were killed by snipers, on both sides, among policemen and people from the street, they were the same snipers who kill people on both sides. ” Then Paet tells about the photographs shown of the God-Man, who speak about the same handwriting when shooting and about the type of bullets. And all this - referred to the opinion of doctors who treated the wounded and examined the dead.

And then Paet was generally stunned by Ashton: “And the people are becoming increasingly wary of the fact that the new coalition does not want to investigate the exact circumstances of what happened. Understanding is rapidly growing that behind these snipers was not Yanukovych, but behind them was someone from the new coalition. ... This is an extremely annoying factor. This discredits the new coalition from the very beginning. ” The conversation took place on February 26, when in Ukraine, a dubious coalition, which chose both the Speaker of the Parliament and the Acting President, actually came to power in Ukraine. the president and the prime minister.

However, it seems that the consequences of a sniper's bullet, like the sewing in a bag, cannot be hidden. Now here is the secret becomes clear. And explicit at the international level. From the lips of those who actually thought and still thinks that the Maidan’s speeches are “peaceful”, and the attempts of law enforcement officers to defend themselves and execute the half-orders of the cowed authorities are “junta atrocities”.

“Working ahead of the curve” in a purely Ukrainian way, that is, with a very long delay, 4 March 2014, the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov spoke on this issue. “A big serious investigation is underway. I think the time will come, and we will publicize the facts: who shot, when shot, on which team. Facts are now collected in a single chain. I can only say one thing: the third factor was the key factor in this confrontation, which resulted in a bloody massacre, which turned the front upside down and brought it into a state of shock.

And this force is not Ukrainian. I really want us to clearly understand this. ... This is not a question of political confrontation. It is a question of human values, it is a question of our feeling of what happened. It is unacceptable when third forces allow themselves to lead us here, ”he said in Kharkov, where he went to represent the new governor of the Maidan to the regional state administration.

On this all, it seems, will end: no one will search for anyone and will not understand anything. The fact that the “third force” acted and acts in Ukraine is a common place. Pro-Western leaders blame Russia and the traditional already “Russian special forces”. And I probably hurried about the "stunned" Ashton. She, most likely, knew about what actually happened on the Maidan, and what it turned out. Including the staff of the new ruling team, and how it came to power and how it was formed. Paet says Ashton: “There is a very strong pressure on members of parliament. At night, “uninvited guests” came to the party members, journalists saw how people were beating the deputy with weapons at the parliament building right in the daytime. All this is really happening. ” At the same time, the Estonian Foreign Minister insists that Kiev should be given "an absolutely clear signal that replacing the government will not be enough, real reforms and actions are needed to increase the level of confidence", otherwise "everything will end in disrepair."

And Ashton responds to his telephone counterpart: "They need to hold out for at least a few weeks, then there will be elections." And says that the EU is always ready to help advisers in carrying out reforms. And it can be understood: the European Union, I repeat, needs to deal, and not emotions, sales markets for European products, and not investigate how these markets are mined ...

The victorious “revolution” also needs heroes and victims, and not the exposure of those who led to the victims. Namely, provocateurs-killers who incited confrontation and mutual hatred between maydanshchiki and law enforcement officers, killing dozens of those and others. And no one will look for them, and there will be no unforeseen “surprises” and there is no urgent need to “clean out” curious search engines. And so that the new Ukrainian authorities did not even think to look for the perpetrators of the bloody provocations on the “Euromaidan”, but keep quiet about the true role of Western instructors and advisers in the “battles for freedom”, the new official Kiev is also being financed with financial help. And this is truly a great temptation for the Ukrainian authorities: this is how much can be stolen if such loot goes to Ukraine! ..

Russia is sluggishly defended and speaks of American and European instructors who prepared, equipped and armed the Maidan fighters. But it is a voice crying in the wilderness. Ukraine from Russia and conquered by force of arms, and outbid by loot. And now Moscow, it seems, to restore positions in the Ukrainian direction is not enough to do without words ...

... At the same time, March 7 of this year promises to take over Ukraine and PACE. Assembly President Anne Brasseur, in her words, “took the initiative and contacted the Acting President of Ukraine Alexander Turchinov, as well as with the Speaker of the State Duma of the Russian Federation Sergey Naryshkin ". For “it is extremely important for the two sides to avoid further escalation and try to find points of contact that would help to enter a dialogue.” PACE also does not exclude that it may send a mission to Kiev to clarify the situation, and Ms. Brasseur said that Turchinov promised to provide all necessary assistance in organizing the visit. And this is also explainable: why should he, so that PACE knows the truth? But it will be fun if Russia tries, tells about the “Euromaidan” what Paet and Ashton already know, and really pops up ...
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  1. Canep
    Canep 7 March 2014 15: 02
    +17
    But it will be fun if Russia tries, tells about the “Euro Maidan” what Paet and Ashton already know, and the truth will come up ...
    And this PACE really need? They need Ukraine.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 7 March 2014 18: 01
      +15
      Quote: Canep
      And this PACE really need? They need Ukraine.

      I’ll add the UN, NATO, OSCE, IAEA, G7 they really need? They won’t blame themselves for anything !!! what
      1. vladkavkaz
        vladkavkaz 7 March 2014 19: 20
        +1
        Sid.74
        Read this
        http://maxpark.com/community/politic/content/2575764
        This is Fursov’s opinion. And it is clear that it has a place to be, there is simply nothing to object to.
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 7 March 2014 20: 32
          +2
          Quote: vladkavkaz
          Sid.74
          Read this

          Thank you! I didn’t master everything at once, I’ll read from the text in my eyes, I’ll read it over, but for that video I had a comment from the comments!

          An interesting conversation between two Jews! If two Jews cannot agree, then the situation around Ukraine is really confusing! what
      2. Renat
        Renat 7 March 2014 19: 39
        +1
        These institutions have long lost their authority and legitimacy. It’s just the organs heralded by Western leaders. They can’t say anything clever anymore. Maybe just make them fun? Nothing will change from this.
      3. sssla
        sssla 7 March 2014 20: 57
        +4
        Quote: Sid.74
        UN, NATO, OSCE, IAEA, G7

        Guys, this is one gam-o with only different names. Well, it’s clear that they expect objectivity from them as from a hungry crocodile antelope)
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 7 March 2014 21: 37
          0
          Quote: sssla
          Guys it's a single gam-o only with different names

          Yes, this nonhumans are almost the same laughing laughing laughing
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 7 March 2014 18: 14
      +6
      Quote: Canep
      They need Ukraine.

      That's for sure! That's who they come off to the full! And then Russia Ohhh very well learned to send this graze with their advice to both ... and f ....
    3. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 7 March 2014 18: 19
      +8
      Quote: Canep
      But it will be fun if Russia tries, tells about the “Euro Maidan” what Paet and Ashton already know, and the truth will come up ...
      And this PACE really need? They need Ukraine.


      They need bashing, good bashing. So they need to get in so that it’s okay to climb into our business with us.
    4. sazhka4
      sazhka4 7 March 2014 18: 43
      +1
      http://www.interfax-russia.ru/Moscow/news.asp?id=479018&sec=1668
      Are there any other options? Glory!!?? Uryayaya! "
      1. gfs84
        gfs84 7 March 2014 18: 51
        0
        How interesting everything is ...
        First released, then closed again ....
        Looks like they released into the account some sort of gigantic information ....
        But something he did not take into account)))
        1. sazhka4
          sazhka4 7 March 2014 19: 02
          0
          Depends on menstruation, Asteroids, and from which leg he got up .. No leg got up ..








          zavi
      2. AndreyS
        AndreyS 7 March 2014 19: 20
        0
        Quote: sazhka4
        Are there any other options? Glory!!?? Uryayaya! "

        His lawyer has already announced that they are bullshit !!!!!!
    5. Capyar 48315
      Capyar 48315 7 March 2014 18: 51
      +2
      And the truth will come up and be played by Putin when it is most effective (after the start of the reaction to the results of the referendum) and where it will be most deadly (i.e., on the territory of the enemy) and it will be unbeatable trump cards. Like the others from the deck in the hands of a taciturn GDP. And what do you think - HIS POWER PREPARED HIS
      1. katastrofa
        katastrofa 7 March 2014 19: 38
        +1
        Power rises from the "Murom furnace" good
        the time is not far off when your shoulders will be squared laughing
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    7. zanoza
      zanoza 7 March 2014 19: 15
      +3
      Yes, they do not need such today's Ukraine.
      Events in Ukraine are an occasion to humiliate and try, once again, to bring Russia to its knees.
      [b] The goal is to hit Russia on the run. [/ b] Tear and break brotherly Slavic ties by setting Ukrainians on Russians. They do not spare money for it and the methods are more aggressive and treacherous. Victims are necessary - here are your victims ... Lies and falsehood triumphs.
      [b] The West, manic, needs an enemy. [/ b] [/ b]
      Without the image of an external enemy and the threats emanating from him, political activity in the United States is unthinkable. Any pre-election rhetoric revolves around an external enemy, the fight against it will give additional jobs, it will be necessary to arm and rearm, democracy is in danger, we are threatened, etc. and so on am
    8. AVV
      AVV 7 March 2014 19: 22
      0
      Quote: Canep
      But it will be fun if Russia tries, tells about the “Euro Maidan” what Paet and Ashton already know, and the truth will come up ...
      And this PACE really need? They need Ukraine.

      In Europe, they gave rise to various structures, parasites, only all states stupidly pay, and there’s 0 sense in them, they even manage to criticize those who give money, and fuck. We have such parasites, the sense of them is like pig milk !!!
    9. Duke
      Duke 7 March 2014 20: 26
      +6
      Nm you need almost kindly, old, but relevant.
    10. Thompson
      Thompson 7 March 2014 21: 10
      0
      Already afraid to fantasize winked because where am I to maydanokabinetchikov! BUT- I won’t be surprised if they come up with the version that this shooting was a carefully thought-out special operation of the Russian special forces (third force!) In order to provoke them to seize power by force, to intensify passions and to chop off Crimea under this guise request smile
    11. Thompson
      Thompson 7 March 2014 21: 10
      0
      Already afraid to fantasize winked because where am I to maydanokabinetchikov! BUT- I won’t be surprised if they come up with the version that this shooting was a carefully thought-out special operation of the Russian special forces (third force!) In order to provoke them to seize power by force, to intensify passions and to chop off Crimea under this guise request smile
    12. de klermon
      de klermon 7 March 2014 21: 44
      +2
      The Western "negotiators" are unlucky: someone is eavesdropping all the time!
      That Nuland talks with Payet,
      then Ashton and Paet will "grind" on a secret "private" occasion and all at once to the network!
      By the way, and the "male side" of negotiations in family relations does not consist? The surnames are very similar, but taking into account the love of the Balts to distorting surnames ... Well, definitely not strangers!
      PS To expect objectivity and honesty from the Westerners is like expecting congratulations from Goebbels on the Stalingrad victory! It is necessary not to verbiage, but to do business! And then all: "The Kremlin is silent, the Kremlin is silent ...", but you friends talk in such a way that everyone is more than enough !!!
  2. Not served
    Not served 7 March 2014 17: 57
    +9
    Maybe not the topic, but here is the news:
    The famous American billionaire Donald Trump criticized the presidency of Barack Obama, saying that the US has lost its authority abroad, and President Barack Obama is "drowning" in domestic politics, writes The Hill.

    “Our leadership is so weak and miserable ... They have no respect for our leader, and honestly, they no longer have respect for our great country,” Donald Trump said during the annual conference of the conservative political party CPAC, referring to China and other world powers.

    The business tycoon shared his impressions of his recent visit to Moscow, where the Miss Universe beauty contest, which he is the owner of, was held.

    “They treated me very well. Putin even gave me a present, a wonderful present with a wonderful signature. I spoke with all these people. And, you know, look what he's doing with Obama. He plays with him, ”said Donald Trump.

    The billionaire’s speech was greeted with applause, the newspaper notes, although many seemed puzzled by his statements.
    1. Rblipetsk
      Rblipetsk 7 March 2014 18: 57
      +6
      Quote: Didn't serve
      And, you know, look what he's doing with Obama. He plays with him. "

      that's for sure. is playing. like a cat with a mouse. and Obama (mouse) play out ...
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 7 March 2014 20: 22
        0
        The picture is good ... Only the cat would be repainted in lighter colors, and the mouse, on the contrary: in black ... Then it would have been ...
  3. parus2nik
    parus2nik 7 March 2014 17: 57
    +11
    A bit off topic, but interesting: Kolomoisky Deputy Boris Filatov on his Facebook urged to appease first, and then hang Crimeans. Seriously, this is not a joke - he said so:
    7. The decisions that the new Crimean “power” is currently taking behind the scenes are of great importance. We need to wait for what the rhetoric of these “documents” will be. Since, in my opinion, there is nothing wrong with expanding the autonomy of Crimea and providing the Russian language with the status of the state language. This will avoid the escalation of tension and save Ukraine.
    And the last one. No landing from the Maidan. No extremist statements. It is necessary to give scum any promises, guarantees and make any concessions. And hang ... You need to hang them later. Source - https://www.facebook.com/borys.filatov/posts/603173516431216
    This is not surprising at all: Boris Filatov simply voiced the junta's general line of "stabilization". Now - to promise anything, and then - just hang.
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 7 March 2014 18: 09
      +4
      This was already in another topic, along with a photo of this pi.dora.
    2. lestad
      lestad 7 March 2014 18: 10
      +8
      hypocritical two-faced scum angry
      1. mig29mks
        mig29mks 7 March 2014 18: 48
        +3
        they will do so, in Donetsk in Kharkov in the entire east of the outskirts!
    3. shtanko.49
      shtanko.49 7 March 2014 18: 39
      +2
      As everyone is silent about the Crimean Tatars, they will never agree to join Russia and stick a knife in the back, as they know how. On the day of the referendum, I think something is being prepared. They already require the introduction of UN peacekeepers in Crimea.
      1. gfs84
        gfs84 7 March 2014 18: 43
        +3
        They can, but hardly more seriously, like this:
        (and don’t forget that the source, QHA + tape, is not very reliable)

        The mayor of the Crimean city of Belogorsk, Albert Kangiev, refused to support the referendum on the possibility of the region joining Russia. This was reported by "Crimea News".

        “In my opinion, this action has nothing in common with the referendum except the name,” the official said. According to the publication, he is of the opinion that such a referendum is contrary to the constitution and that, in addition, "there is neither the time nor the technical capabilities to sufficiently prepare for its holding."

        Earlier, Albert Kangiev was a member of the Party of Regions, which until recently had the status of the ruling in Ukraine. However, in late February, the mayor, like several other officials and deputies, announced his withdrawal from the PR (this happened against the backdrop of the defeat of the Ukrainian government in the fight against the opposition and clashes in Kiev, during which dozens of people were killed). According to QHA, he explained his move as "the impossibility of being further in the ranks of this party."

        Belogorsk is the administrative center of the Belogorsk district, it is located about 40 kilometers from Simferopol. The population, according to 2012, which are listed on the website of the city council, amounted to about 18 thousand people. In terms of ethnic composition, 35 percent were Russians, about the same were Crimean Tatars, 22 percent were Ukrainians, and 8 percent were representatives of other nationalities.

        Crimea will not give itself up, but those who were against will have to, I think, not very easily ...
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 7 March 2014 18: 51
        +5
        Quote: shtanko.49
        As everyone is silent about the Crimean Tatars, they will never agree to become part of Russia

        Not all...

        Oleg Tsarev, MP from the Party of Regions, said that ordinary Tatars want Crimea to join Russia. He wrote about this on his Facebook page. “I am now in the Crimea. Having talked with the Crimean Tatars, I want to dispel the rumors prevailing in Ukraine - most of those with whom I spoke support the unification of Crimea with Russia. The motives are clear - high pensions and salaries, new opportunities for the development of the Crimean economy. I’m talking about simple Tatars now, ”said Tsarev.
        The people's deputy also explained why the chairman of the Mejlis Refat Chubarov opposed the unity of Crimea and Russia. "Tops", in particular, Refat Chubarov, advocate the preservation of Crimea as part of Ukraine. This is clear. They have long and firmly entered the Ukrainian elite, are closely connected with the West. The same Chubarov is the usual "grant-eater", dependent on foreign sponsors. It’s not necessary to transfer his position to all Crimean Tatars, ”wrote Tsarev.

        Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-140688.html
      3. katastrofa
        katastrofa 7 March 2014 19: 43
        0
        UN peacekeepers do not have time to introduce, it is still necessary to get together and discuss, then only adopt a resolution! and even if they accept, Russia has the right to VETO repeat but VETO will not allow China to overcome
  4. gfs84
    gfs84 7 March 2014 18: 02
    +2
    And is there help already ???
    As far as I remember, there is nothing besides promises ....
    Yes, and only politicians promise, until not one serious (responsible for allocating money) economist, financier, etc., from Europe and the states, has not yet made a statement that - Yes, there will be money ....
    If not right, correct!
    The junta has no gold reserves and will not ....
    And what for, they did not give up in the West, with their problems (in the EU and the USA they hoped for free) ....
    Who in the know-Crimea already sent money from Russia?
    1. Egoza
      7 March 2014 18: 22
      +3
      Quote: gfs84
      Who in the know-Crimea already sent money from Russia?

      It was reported that from the Altai Territory they transfer personal funds to help Crimeans, but we need to look more closely hi
      1. gfs84
        gfs84 7 March 2014 18: 33
        +5
        Elena hi

        Today at work, we got information that next week they will collect 10% of the daily earnings for the Crimea)))

        It is necessary to leave the hospital (I’m sitting with my daughter) and make a feasible contribution to such a thing)
      2. VasDA
        VasDA 7 March 2014 18: 49
        +1
        http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1432534.html

        money is definitely coming here ...
  5. dr.star75
    dr.star75 7 March 2014 18: 03
    +1
    That's it, the matsdowns have merged!
  6. krot
    krot 7 March 2014 18: 03
    +14
    cool a bit all) everything will be fine
    1. katastrofa
      katastrofa 7 March 2014 19: 46
      +1
      it is necessary to warn !!! fell from a chair negative
  7. Irtysh
    Irtysh 7 March 2014 18: 06
    +6
    Europe needs a whole Ukraine with 45 million solvent population and minerals. The process is already in the clinch. The country turns into a nest of fascism with crazy Natsiks. In a month, the population will become a beggar and start a turmoil. The European Union has neither the desire to rectify the situation nor the resources for this.

    The people will have only hope for Russia that it will have a desire to return them to their market. :(
    1. vlum
      vlum 7 March 2014 18: 17
      +8
      Yes, there is no solvent 45 million people in Ukraine. Any, but many, many less than 45 million
    2. Egoza
      7 March 2014 18: 24
      +4
      Quote: Irtysh
      Europe needs a whole Ukraine with 45 million solvent population and minerals

      And that’s why,
      At an extraordinary summit of the heads of state and government of the European Union with the participation of Ukraine, it was noted that the EU clearly stands on the positions of territorial integrity, integrity and independence of the Ukrainian state. This was announced by the Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk at a press conference, according to the Department of Information and Communication of the Secretariat of the CMU. The Prime Minister noted that during the summit the issue of military escalation, military aggression in the territory of Crimea and decision-making by the so-called bodies of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea were discussed.
      “The decision of the EU Council clearly states that the so-called bodies of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea adopted an illegal and unconstitutional decision to hold a referendum,” he said. “I want to warn the separatists and other traitors of the Ukrainian state who are trying to work against Ukraine: any decision that you make will be deliberately illegal and unconstitutional, and no one in the civilized world will recognize the decision of the so-called referendum of the so-called Crimean government,” the head stressed Ukrainian government.
      The Prime Minister also noted that the Cabinet of Ministers clearly declared its readiness to negotiate with the Russian government: “But for this, our Russian neighbors, who should nevertheless become Russian partners, must withdraw their troops, fulfill their bilateral and multilateral obligations, stop supporting separatists and the terrorists who are in the territory of Crimea, and the whole world to declare that Ukraine and Russia have begun to build a new type of relationship. ” “The Government of Ukraine clearly declares: we are ready to restore relations with the Russian Federation. Moreover, we will never be either subordinate to Russia or a branch of Russia in Ukraine. This Russian leadership must understand, ”said Arseniy Yatsenyuk.
      The Prime Minister also said that he had requested a second telephone conversation with Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.
      xxxxx
      1. demel2
        demel2 7 March 2014 18: 38
        +9
        Quote: Egoza
        “But for this, our Russian neighbors, who nevertheless must become Russian partners

        A naive dreamer, he still has to play in the sandbox or he thinks that the GDP sent troops to the Crimea, which are not there, so that later they can withdraw what was done with a finger at the request. Well, well.
      2. SSR
        SSR 7 March 2014 23: 45
        +1
        Fidget, do not scare me at night looking! )))

        The Prime Minister also said that he had requested a second telephone conversation with Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev.

        I'm always worried when our LADY "ventriloquist".
    3. VADEL
      VADEL 7 March 2014 18: 49
      +2
      Here people are not needed. They are only interested in the territory (as a bridgehead) and natural resources.
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        1. Apollo
          Apollo 7 March 2014 19: 18
          +1
          Quote: albert
          Yatsenyuk has gone too far. A little indecent, but in the subject.

          In general, you read the VO rules or registered on the site in one fell swoop. If you read, you should have understood for yourself that the admitted mat in the visitor’s comments is equal to the mat laid out by the visitor in the picture, photo, demotivators and video images. That is, in other words,knowingly and intentionally.For this I will punish mercilessly.
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  8. konvalval
    konvalval 7 March 2014 18: 07
    +2
    The smell of fried, began to look for common ground.
    1. omsbon
      omsbon 7 March 2014 19: 51
      +1
      Quote: konvalval
      The smell of fried, began to look for common ground.


      From g about in N but it can smell only to him, and the point of contact is one - our bayonet-knife in Bandera belly!
  9. psychologist
    psychologist 7 March 2014 18: 09
    +11
    everyone knows the truth! just everywhere their famous double standards !! what they wanted, they got it! they will definitely not see the Crimea now !! come to us in Russia .... to the Crimean resort !! we are certainly hospitable people !!! wink
  10. andrei332809
    andrei332809 7 March 2014 18: 13
    +2
    [quot] Moreover, in a rude and perverse form [/ quote]
    first I read "in blue" ... what does the template do to a person (I have the audacity to call someone that) ...
    py.sy. sorry. for me the word "west" and the word "fagot" merged together request
  11. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 7 March 2014 18: 14
    +1
    “To scoop up honey with such bread!”

    You need to pour a lot into it so that it closes. The EEC will have a hard time, because (it seems to me) the United States will hold a billion and that's it. Then they will only say: "We plowed" ...
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 7 March 2014 18: 23
      +1
      Quote: sigizmund472
      The United States will hold a billion and that's it. Then they will only say: "We plowed" ...

      but what about the screams "not honestly" from the south (I'm talking about Europe, but the moderators ... such moderators)? and English commanders may disagree
  12. Dikson
    Dikson 7 March 2014 18: 14
    +5
    "The EU is in favor of investigating the violence in Ukraine and for bringing those responsible for it to justice," said Maya Kosjancic, spokeswoman for the EU's high representative for foreign affairs and security policy, Catherine Ashton. - just from the news .. It seems that snipers still have to be handed over to someone ... And about investments and assistance .. I honestly don’t understand - Ukraine again did not pay for gas. already for February. debt 1,89 billion ... And with all this, they ask us for a loan so that we can pay off part of the debt ... And at the same time, our Foreign Ministry broke off relations with them. How is that? Like Gazprom has to suck from itself, and at the same time itself and pay for it?
    1. vlum
      vlum 7 March 2014 18: 20
      +3
      To promise to marry does not mean to marry.
      Well, they will investigate ... without any results
    2. Egoza
      7 March 2014 18: 28
      +3
      Quote: Dikson
      "The EU is in favor of investigating the violence in Ukraine and also for those responsible for it to be brought to justice," said Maya Kosyanchich


      Nude Nude! I’ll see what they sing when Russia presents the documents !!!
      The Russian Foreign Ministry collects documentary evidence of crimes committed on the Maidan and in Ukraine in general, and transfers them to the OSCE and other international organizations.
      This was announced by the authorized Foreign Ministry for Human Rights Konstantin Dolgov, speaking on Friday at a meeting of the Commission of the Federation Council to monitor the situation in Ukraine.
      “We transmit information through the ministry about all the outrages carried out by supporters of the Maidan, radicals, Nazis, and neo-fascists,” K. Dolgov said.
      The official noted that there is currently a violation of human rights throughout Ukraine, while if Russia believes that the authorities in Kiev and those who cover and finance them, “must decisively dissociate themselves from extremists and radicals, eliminating them from political processes, and those who are guilty of crimes must be punished, "we don’t hear a similar response from European partners."
      K. Dolgov believes that now, as suggested by the Russian side, as well as German Chancellor Angela Merkel, it is necessary to conduct an international investigation into the events in Ukraine, "rather than accept unilateral EU sanctions against a number of Ukrainian officials." The Foreign Ministry spokesman also noted that a number of forces are concerned about the creation of international mechanisms regarding the non-recognition of the referendum in Crimea.
      K. Dolgov expects continued provocations against Russian-speaking citizens in Ukraine. As an example of human rights violations at a meeting of the commission, the fact that the Central Bank of Ukraine does not miss accounts, even for humanitarian purposes, was discussed.
      “Western countries are beginning to recognize violations of (human rights) in Ukraine, but these are still timid signs,” which have no serious political consequences, ”the Ombudsman added.
      http://news2000.com.ua/news/sobytija/v-ukraine/246307
  13. 111 soldier
    111 soldier 7 March 2014 18: 16
    +5
    it's time to pay the debt !! get the bill .. sign it !! lol
    1. katastrofa
      katastrofa 7 March 2014 19: 53
      0
      “Do not hope that once you take advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever.
      Russians always come for their money.
      And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements you signed, supposedly supporting you. They are not worth the paper they are written on. Therefore, it is worth either playing fair with the Russians, or not playing at all. '
      quote - (Otto von Bismarck). good
      Bismarck how I respect the Chancellor good
  14. patriot123
    patriot123 7 March 2014 18: 21
    +6
    Crimea is a normal price !! there was nothing to dissolve Bandera and flow to them all this time !! now pay!
    1. Egoza
      7 March 2014 18: 31
      +2
      Quote: patriot123
      Crimea is a normal price !! there was nothing to dissolve Bandera and flow to them all this time !! now pay!


      And about. President of Ukraine Oleksandr Turchynov signed Decree No. 272 ​​on the suspension of the Decree of the Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea dated March 6, 2014 No. 1702-6 / 14 "On holding an all-Crimean referendum." This was reported on the official website and. about. head of state. The Decree notes that by Resolution No. 1702-6 / 14 "On holding an all-Crimean referendum," the Supreme Council of the ARC decided to join the Russian Federation as a subject of the Russian Federation and hold an all-Crimean referendum on March 16, 2014. “The above provisions of the Resolution of the Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea dated March 6, 2014 No. 1702-6 / 14 do not comply with the norms of the Constitution of Ukraine, in particular:
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-140713.html
      XXXX
      The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine will initiate the dissolution of the Parliament of Crimea
      Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, acting Head of State Alexander Turchinov says he stopped the decision of the Supreme Council of Crimea on a referendum on the accession of Crimea to Russia.
      "I stopped the decision of the Crimean parliament. The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine will initiate the dissolution of the parliament of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. We will protect the inviolability of the territory of Ukraine," he said in a televised address Thursday evening.
      http://www.versii.com/news/298870/
      1. gfs84
        gfs84 7 March 2014 18: 46
        +4
        We must ask the state of Nauru (its government is at least legitimate) initiated the dissolution of the current government of Ukraine ...)
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 7 March 2014 18: 58
        +4
        Quote: Egoza
        And about. President of Ukraine Alexander Turchinov signed Decree No. 272

        272 Decrees stamped several times a day. Interestingly, at least one works ... smile
      3. foreman SA
        foreman SA 7 March 2014 19: 30
        +3
        I STOPED THE DECISION ...))))Dumbledore fucking !!))
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  16. made13
    made13 7 March 2014 18: 29
    +6
    Not everything is simple in Crimea either - people lived 23 years near Ukraine and it’s very difficult and scary to change their lifestyle and established connections. I am only encouraged by the fact that our Khokhlov authorities constantly threaten the Crimeans, accuse them of separatism, and do not resolve the issue with bandits from the right sector - these measures encourage Crimeans to vote for Russia.
  17. Oksana
    Oksana 7 March 2014 18: 30
    +23

    DONETSK GOT UP !!!
    1. Hudo
      Hudo 7 March 2014 18: 44
      +4
      Quote: Oksana
      DONETSK GOT UP !!!


      Donetsk Golden Eagle refused to carry out orders sent by the junta to rule the police in Donetsk Pozhidaev and the junta. Fighters occupied the premises of the regional administration!

      P.S. According to unofficial data, in the Berezansky district of the Nikolaev region during the training mobilization, about 500 people were recruited (presumably by the Right Sector) for training and subsequent sending to the Crimea to disrupt the referendum and possible provocations.
    2. Gunsmith
      Gunsmith 7 March 2014 19: 11
      +1
      It was time to get up!
    3. katastrofa
      katastrofa 7 March 2014 19: 55
      0
      when does this happen?
  18. Bootlegger
    Bootlegger 7 March 2014 18: 31
    +4
    Dear forum users, read what is happening in Kiev. It’s true from the lips of those who supported the Maidan and why Crimea should gain independence alone in Ukraine. -http: //blog.i.ua/user/6469334/1370665 -
  19. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 7 March 2014 18: 36
    0
    But I think that Shakespeare is relevant as always, and while borrowing from the West, ordinary Ukrainians should understand that they will not be able to pay off and then the West will demand its "pound of living flesh."
  20. Bootlegger
    Bootlegger 7 March 2014 18: 36
    +2
    a pretext to ALL-ALL UKRAINIANS AND RUSSIANS WHO SUPPORTED THE MAIDAN TO CALL - COCKS --- one name cuckoo kirst-swastika in Ukrainian.
  21. kirqiz ssr
    kirqiz ssr 7 March 2014 18: 41
    -3
    the center read in asia in the Crimea the deviation group of the dshb kiev has crept in to destroy the prime minister of crimea this group was blocked
  22. Dikson
    Dikson 7 March 2014 18: 52
    +9
    Involuntarily, I begin to envy little Israel, which hurls missiles at everyone around him, without bothering at all with excuses and apologies ... We decided that there is a threat to the country - they hit it in the face ... And then let the democrats and the civilized world figure it out at the UN, or where else. Sr.a.t. wanted at all, because their own country is more expensive! And we have been looking back all our lives, as if some European fagots would think bad of us .. "Krasnoyarsk Territory covers Europe, like a bull - a sheep!" (c) Michal Mikhalych Zhvanetsky
  23. Intensive
    Intensive 7 March 2014 18: 54
    +1
    I’m wondering if Ukrainian nationalists like patriots should be, how then should they understand their indifference to the fact that they become financially dependent on the IMF? Is that in the national interests of Ukraine? Or these nationalists don’t put on their clothes.
    1. gfs84
      gfs84 7 March 2014 18: 58
      +4
      Well, there are two options:

      1. No they are not patriots (probability 75-95%)

      2. Calculate all n ... to ride (probability 5-25%) ....

      Well this is of course IMHO
      1. Stinger
        Stinger 7 March 2014 19: 22
        +1
        So Filatov explained
        It is necessary to give the scum any promises, guarantees and make any concessions. ... And hang them ... Hang them later "
    2. mpa945
      mpa945 7 March 2014 19: 28
      +2
      Stupidity, BUT: Nationalism and Nazism are somewhat different things. Very rude: the nationalist is for his people, the Nazi is against everyone else. The line is of course thin ...
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    4. Mi
      Mi 7 March 2014 20: 37
      +1
      and the fact that they are Nazis, but at the same time they planted Jews in the governors?! Is it also an independence?
  24. Bakht
    Bakht 7 March 2014 18: 55
    +6
    Greek Foreign Minister Evangelos Venizelos called on the international community to convene a conference to provide urgent financial assistance to Ukraine and save the country from the economic crisis.

    And this is ridiculous. Today, euronews reported that three Greek banks urgently need help in the amount of 6 billion euros. So who will help anyone?
  25. Oksana
    Oksana 7 March 2014 19: 13
    +2
    Quote: albert
    Yatsenyuk has gone too far. A little indecent, but in the subject.

    "Whinnying" - to colic! good
  26. sazhka4
    sazhka4 7 March 2014 19: 15
    -1
    Quote: CapYar 48315
    And what do you think - HIS POWER PREPARED HIS

    Power prepared Citizens. And UT-MY Letters aaa, uhh. Zadolbali .. Maybe teachers of the Russian Language President to hire
  27. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 7 March 2014 19: 18
    +2
    But the picture changed so quickly, and the hysteria of journalists and in their interviews with the survivors of the slaughter was so vague, but loud, emotional and aggressive, that the matter did not reach conclusions and thoughts. There was no time for this: the kaleidoscope of promotion of the “atrocities of the regime” worked around the clock, continuously and practically at lightning speed.

    Damn guys, what did you forget. The technology was developed back in the Baltic states and reached Egypt. In Moscow, too, snipers worked. In Kiev I was still happy, there were no good snipers, I was happy in vain.
  28. non-placeholder
    non-placeholder 7 March 2014 19: 20
    -6
    Surprisingly, it does not seem to anyone that everything around the Maidan is strange, and that the whole performance is turned by the EU. It’s just right to talk about Merkel’s gambit: I gave Crimea (and judging by the BBC and CNN I gave it) and will take the rest of Ukraine, who hate Russia fiercely, ready to surrender to Europe for any money in any position, or maybe without money.
    They easily and naturally turned the dialogue on the air, published it carefully after the president’s speech, confirmed the authenticity (moreover, without thinking twice) and became silent, leaving us to suck this week, reveling in our own insight. Now Putin is supported by 300% of Russians (me, by the way, too). annex Crimea - we get an enemy state near by with a well-developed military-space industry (now imprisoned for anyone, but not the Russian Federation).
    One problem, fascists on the streets, but investigations by the European Commissioners will establish that they were shot on the Independence Square and they will be demolished by their own bits.
    And voila, a new country, poor, spat upon by Russia, fucked by fascists (possibly grown by the State Department, as an option), but proud and eager to taste all the rights and freedoms of the new Europe, in the future selling the same planes with Russia, but at European prices and her conditions.
    1. Dikson
      Dikson 7 March 2014 19: 35
      +2
      The only thing that is clear for now is that this "new power" will not sit still for a long time. Europe itself will remove them if Russia does not bend for another week or two. Hence the alleged wiretapping about snipers, and so on. Therefore, Yarosh is furious - he understands that no one in Europe is going to defend him with the militants either ... Of course, there is a multi-step game. Let's wait until the 16th ...
    2. Revolver
      Revolver 7 March 2014 19: 51
      +1
      Quote: ne_mestofil-ko
      Ukraine, fiercely hating the Russian Federation, ready to surrender to Europe for any money in any position, or maybe without money.

      And even without Vaseline.
  29. screw cutter
    screw cutter 7 March 2014 19: 22
    +2
    I learned from my relatives in the Crimea (half an hour how), in the Crimea (in the north) Don Cossacks are calm at the border, Chechens are guarding military facilities. Young girls, local, are already flirting with them. Armored troop carriers and military kamazes ride here and there Urals. In general, peace and quiet. I found out interesting news for myself, it turns out that the Chechens were brought to Crimea for a reason, their Tatars are afraid and respected, because the Chechens of the Tatars are not afraid and do not respect, they are like second grade.
  30. sazhka4
    sazhka4 7 March 2014 19: 26
    0
    Quote: AndreyS
    His lawyer has already announced that they are bullshit !!!!!!

    All the more reason .. Walk Russia .. and cry of a geyropa .. And I have the most beautiful opa ...
  31. v53993
    v53993 7 March 2014 19: 36
    0
    Russia, which until then held out a hand of financial assistance to the ousted regime, refused to pay until finding out with whom the new Ukraine could deal with and] Russia, which before that held out a hand of financial assistance to the ousted regime, refused to pay until finding out with whom in the new Ukraine to deal with and which of the authorities in it is more or less legitimate,

    Interesting, and even very interesting. The main phrase is here: which of the authorities in it is more or less legitimate . And if, like the West, our leaders agree with the legitimacy of the Benderlogs who seized power, then what do we ourselves hang up, or wait when they begin to take off the skin from us still alive?
  32. cayman gene
    cayman gene 7 March 2014 20: 07
    +7
    From the very beginning of the troubles, I had no doubt that all this was started by the most democratic democrats in the world. that's just Russia is not Yugoslavia, piss will fight.
  33. Kuvabatake
    Kuvabatake 7 March 2014 20: 31
    0
    Which one needs the truth ??? Nass in their eyes, rub themselves and say "God's dew!"
  34. katastrofa
    katastrofa 7 March 2014 20: 44
    +2
    "If the overseas partners manage to convince Vladimir Putin to enter into negotiations and abandon the occupation of Ukrainian lands, the elections scheduled for May 25 in Ukraine will take place. If the Kremlin has decided to get involved in an intercontinental military conflict, and this should be expected, then the Ukrainian elections , and the elections to the European Parliament, which are to be held on May 22 and 25, 2014, will be prolonged. That is, canceled. That is why a number of European countries are very careful in their statements regarding the actions of the Russian Federation and Vladimir Putin personally. They understand that "the Crimean crisis "- this is not only a Ukrainian problem. Ukraine will not withstand the breakthrough of the troops of the aggressor and his allies. Europe is under threat no less than Ukraine. Consolidation is needed. Putin will fall. And not only as an adversary, but also as the President of Russia "
    what they write in Ukraine !!! they have few heavenly hundreds am want to integrate it into the heavenly million
  35. Platov
    Platov 7 March 2014 22: 07
    0
    Yanukovych betrayed his homeland and Russia, let him enjoy life if he is not given out for court to the outskirts. In place of Putin would have sent him to the monastery to atone for sins. How many of these abnormal ones can be pulled out of shit, will they never be wiser, a freebie to them above all from the homeless to the president. Really it will be, every time in place thanks to a tub of shit. They would have worn their geyrop there fresh priests are needed.
  36. non-placeholder
    non-placeholder 7 March 2014 22: 20
    0
    Quote: ne_mestofil-ko
    And voila, a new country, poor, spat upon by Russia, fucked by fascists (possibly grown by the State Department, as an option), but proud and eager to taste all the rights and freedoms of the new Europe, in the future selling the same planes with Russia, but at European prices and her conditions.


    Here, in vain you minus)) listen attentively to Ashton's hum - "They need to be very careful ... They need to hold out for at least a few weeks, then there will be elections."
    what are these choices in a few weeks? May 25 is not a few, but 13 weeks. even the Brest Fortress stood less. This interim government will soon release all the bubbles. something will happen in a few weeks.
    note that the nickname is not audible and not visible, i.e. He doesn’t want to get dirty while the pack flounders for power, just then he will go out onto the mountain of corpses and say: “Who is with me in Europe !!!!?. Believe me - the forest of hands.
    it was not for nothing that Ashton mentioned poroshenko, its really passive population supports, and this is 70%. at the end, the "powder" will say, like Ivanishvilli, that politics is not mine, but the nickname is ready to lead your unbent country. And it's in the bag. And even we will all think how well everything turned out.
    Only forever we will remain invaders in the person of Ukrainians, and this is very bad for all of us. they, unlike the Balts and Georgians, are really brothers to us.
    well, finally - pay attention to Japan
    "Japan is not going to impose sanctions against Russia in connection with the situation in Ukraine ..."
    what do you think will happen after the whole Ukrainian mess?
  37. v53993
    v53993 7 March 2014 23: 24
    0
    According to the press secretary of the Russian President Dmitry Peskov, despite the deep disagreements between Russia, Europe and America over the situation in Ukraine, there is still hope that as a result of the dialogue "it will be possible to find some common ground," and these contradictions will be resolved.

    Bargaining began, as it should be in the Talmud. Only on the scales today is Russia. We didn’t guess the circumcised, we are more alive than you think, and we don’t look like corrupt Ukrainians either.
    Come closer, closer!
    I will teach you a lesson.
    I see through the scoundrels
    I see through the scoundrels
    Chop on the nose ...