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China will celebrate the Victory Day over Japan. Japan is concerned about rising Chinese military spending

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China will celebrate the Victory Day over Japan. Japan is concerned about rising Chinese military spending

The information war between Beijing and Tokyo continues to gain momentum. The old conflict between China and Japan is in fact no longer trying to extinguish. On the contrary, both powers regularly give rise to tensions in the region. So, recently in China decided to establish two new public holidays: Victory Day over the Japanese invaders and the Day of Remembrance for the Victims of the Nanking Massacre. In addition, the Chinese are suing Mitsubishi Materials for the war. Japan, however, is concerned about the growth of China’s military spending and the lack of transparency in this area. All this causes a rise in regional tensions and an open course towards militarization in a number of countries in the Asia-Pacific region.


"Victory Day over Japan." Information exchange blows

The general military past does not give rest to either the Japanese or the Chinese. 25 February 2014 of the year the Chinese government issued a decree establishing a new national holiday. China will celebrate "Victory Day over Japan." At the same time, the Chinese authorities intend to introduce the "Day of Remembrance for the Victims of the Nanking Massacre."

It is expected that 3 September in China will celebrate victory in the war with the Japanese Empire. Japan attacked China 7 July 1937, and the war continued until 1945, when the USSR and the USA defeated the Japanese Empire. Japan during the war occupied a large part of China, its most developed and coastal areas. Also, we should not forget that Japan began the intervention against China back in 1931, when Japanese troops captured Manchuria and created a pro-Japanese puppet regime there - the state of Manzhou-Guo.

The Day of Remembrance for the Victims of the Nanking Massacre is going to be introduced to honor the dead at the hands of the Japanese military in Nanking. 13 December 1937, the Japanese army captured Nanjing. The occupation was accompanied by mass violence and murder. The Japanese soldiers staged a terror in the spirit of "three completely clean" - "burn out clean", "kill everyone clean", "steal clean". The Japanese slaughtered to 300 thousand people, thousands of women and girls were raped. The Nanjing massacre became one of the most famous crimes during the Second World War. In total, China lost millions of lives during this war. The figures are from 21 to 35 million.

This decision is taking place against the backdrop of a sharp deterioration in the serious deterioration of relations between the great Asian powers. In November 2013, Beijing unilaterally introduced a new air defense identification zone in the East China Sea. This decision caused a sharp reaction from Japan, South Korea, who have territorial conflicts with China in this area, as well as their ally - the United States. The Japanese and South Korean Air Forces began regular patrol flights around the disputed islands.

In December 2013, Japan announced an increase in military spending. Japan plans to increase the offensive capabilities of the armed forces. Self-defense forces will have the right to strike outside the Japanese islands. Their mobility will be enhanced. Japan is going to approve the right of collective self-defense. If any power attacks Japan’s ally, Tokyo will help him. In the military sphere it is planned to classify a significant part of issues related to defense and the military field. The strike power of the air force and navy will be enhanced. They will create mobile (airborne) forces capable of fighting for the disputed islands.

Moreover, China, along with North Korea, was called the main threat in the region. According to the Japanese, Beijing wants to change the balance of power in the APR. Japan began to free itself from the last chains, which prevented it from developing the military-industrial complex, military-technical cooperation. Military contacts with Great Britain, France, Turkey and India were intensified. At the end of February 2014 of the year, the Japanese government announced a bill that would change the country's military export regulations in force since 1967. Now enterprises of the Japanese military-industrial complex will be able to supply their products to countries with communist regimes. Thus, Japan is exempt from the latest restrictions on military exports. Tokyo implements the concept of transition from “passive pacifism” to “proactive pacifism”, which Shinzo Abe stated in the 2013 year. Japan intends to more actively participate in the "establishment of world peace" and in international military cooperation. In 2015, they plan to revise the ninth article of the Japanese Constitution, which prohibits the Japanese army from participating in international conflicts.

At the end of 2013, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe visited the Yasukuni temple, where he honored the souls of the dead Japanese soldiers. Beijing, Pyongyang and Seoul expressed their indignation, believing that Japanese politicians venerate the souls of Japanese war criminals.

In January, on the initiative of the People's Republic of China and South Korea, a memorial was erected at the station in Harbin, which was dedicated to Korean underground worker An Chunggyn. He shot and killed the first Japanese governor in Korea, Prince Hirobumi Ito, in 2014. The underground worker was captured and hanged in a Japanese prison in 1909. In Korea, An Chungung is considered a national hero.

It should be noted that Korea and Japan also have a long история mutual "friendship." Korea was considered a vassal of China for a long time, but as China weakened and decay in the second half of the 19th century, the Japanese Empire began to lay claim to the Korean peninsula. For some time, the Japanese were restraining the appetites of the Japanese, but in 1904, Japan seized Korea. In 1905, Korea first came under the “protectorate” of Japan, and from 1910 to 1945. she was under complete Japanese control. During this period, Japan, in fact, pursued a policy of genocide and cultural and language discrimination. Koreans were forced to switch to Japanese, to accept Japanese names, Korean men were driven into labor camps and turned into slaves, Korean girls were forcibly turned into sexual slaves for joy to the Japanese. Korea was a raw materials appendage and a source of slave power. All uprisings were drowned in blood. Korea was liberated from the Japanese yoke only in 1945, when the victorious Soviet army defeated the Kwantung Army.

In response to the installation of a monument to the Korean underground fighter in Harbin, Tokyo expressed an official protest to Beijing and Seoul. A spokesman for the Japanese Foreign Ministry said: "Such a move is extremely regrettable." Yoshihide Suga, Secretary General of the Japanese Cabinet of Ministers, said that An Chungung in Japan is considered a criminal.

The degree of intensity of relations between Japan and China was well described by the Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe at the forum in Davos. The Japanese Prime Minister compared the tensions in the current relations between the two great Asian powers with the pre-war relations of the British Empire and Germany on the eve of the First World War. The culprit of instability in the Abe region, called China in connection with its military buildup.

At the end of February 2014, the Chinese sued Mitsubishi Materials for the war. The Chinese court accepted the 37 Chinese lawsuit. The Chinese demand compensation for forced labor during World War II. During the war, the Japanese empire used Chinese forced labor in its enterprises in the occupied territories. The victims and their families want justice. Earlier in Japan, dozens of similar lawsuits were filed against the Japanese government and companies that were associated with Japan’s intervention in China. However, the Japanese courts rejected them. Failing to get justice in Japan, the plaintiffs will now sue in China.

Apparently, the plaintiffs will succeed in the Chinese courts. However, the chances that a court decision will be implemented outside of China are few. In fact, this litigation is another blow to the information war between China and Japan. In addition, Beijing can get another lever for pressure on Tokyo.

Tokyo believes that the issue of war reparations was finally resolved by the San Francisco Peace Treaty of 1951 and the bilateral agreements that followed. In 1972, a joint statement was adopted, and all the problems of compensation for the war period were resolved.

The information war between Beijing and Tokyo has been whipped up by the accusation put forward by China that Japan is accumulating plutonium. China suspects Japan that the Japanese are preparing to create an atomic weapons. Xinhua news agency reported that Japan has materials for the production of atomic weapons. A spokesperson for the Chinese Foreign Ministry, Hua Chunin, said at a press conference in Beijing that Japan has a significant amount of weapons-grade plutonium. Tokyo operates contrary to the rules established by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). Beijing is asking to clarify this issue. A suspicion arises: does Tokyo really think of acquiring its own atomic bomb?

Japan really has plutonium. He was provided by the United States during the Cold War. Deliveries carried out and the UK. According to official data, for research in fast reactors. Studies were conducted at the Tokaimura Science Center in the north-east of the main island of the country Honshu. In total, by the end of 2012, Japan had accumulated 331 kg of plutonium. In 2010, Washington asked Tokyo to return plutonium in order not to violate the nuclear nonproliferation regime. The Americans used their old trump card on the "dangers of international terrorism." They say that weapons-grade plutonium can fall into the hands of terrorists.

For some time Tokyo resisted, did not want to return plutonium. Thus, Japan adopted a new energy plan, the basis of which was the return to the use of nuclear energy as the main source of energy in the country. Tokyo has no alternative energy sources that are able to provide all the needs of the population and the economy. In Japan, it was alleged that the return of plutonium would hurt the country's research. However, with increasing pressure from the United States, Japan was forced to yield. The final decision on this issue should be taken at the third international summit on nuclear safety, which will be held in the Netherlands on March 24-25.

China is increasing its military capabilities. Japan is protesting

4 in March, a spokesman for the National People’s Congress, threatened to respond decisively to the violators of peace in the region. According to Fu Ying, the PRC is a supporter of the peaceful resolution of conflicts and the army is designed to defend the country, but Beijing is ready for an “effective response” to violations. China will not only defend its "territory and sovereignty," but also seek to "restore peace and order in the region."

March 5 opened a session of the National People’s Congress. The government reported that military spending will increase by 12,2% compared to 2013 year and amount to 131,5 billion US dollars. In recent years, China has experienced a steady and significant increase in military spending. In 2013, China had a military budget of 117 billion dollars, increasing national defense spending by 10,7% compared to 2012 year. In 2012 and 2011 the growth of military expenditures amounted to 11,2% and 12,7%, respectively. At the same time, many Western military experts believe that China’s real military spending is much higher than official figures and is approaching 200 billion dollars. Beijing, besides the main funding from the defense budget, finances many related programs related to national security.

It is clear that Japan is on such news reacted negatively. Yosihide Suga, the secretary general of the Japanese government, said that Japan is concerned about the rapid growth of military spending in the PRC. According to him, the growth of China’s military spending is “a matter of concern for the world community.” “The PRC’s defense policy and military capacities lack transparency,” the Japanese statesman said.
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  1. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 7 March 2014 08: 06
    +11
    from the Don.
    And what did the Japanese expect? You have to pay for everything, sooner or later!
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 7 March 2014 08: 11
      +8
      China will not forgive the Japanese for what was their fault there at the beginning of the 20th century.
      Eh, it’s good that he is supporting us now, although only in political rhetoric, but still.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 7 March 2014 08: 22
        +21
        What is "transparency" in defense and military-industrial complex matters?
        It seems to be a state secret in any country.

        But in general, everything is natural: a faithful US vassal, who considers himself an analogue of the USA in the Asia-Pacific region, historically considering China as his labor resource appendage (does this not remind you of anything?) Discovered at his side that China is already not the same? Ha ha ha

        Japan in its relations with China faces the same problems as the United States in its relations with Russia. Naturally.

        Guys, open your eyes wider (especially the Japanese, although this is difficult)! Both China and Russia have long been no longer who you would like to see them. And all that remains for you is either to accept it as it is or to try to change this fact. But you have to break off anyway.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 March 2014 08: 34
          +11
          Quote: Banshee
          What is "transparency" in defense and military-industrial complex matters?

          This, as we had under Gorbachov sad
        2. Greenwood
          Greenwood 7 March 2014 11: 14
          +1
          If I can still agree about Russia, then no about China. Already someone, and the Chinese have been beaten all their lives by all their lives, in different periods of time, under different governments and in different eras. And he certainly does not need to rock the boat to Japan. The Japanese have a modern and high-tech army, one of the best fleets in the Asia-Pacific region, equipped with the latest technology, and in general they always knew how to fight. Even without US assistance, Japan is an extremely serious adversary.
          1. real
            real 7 March 2014 17: 34
            0
            When the Chinese had an empire, the Ainu lived in the Japanese islands by hunting and gathering, lived in log cabins ... But the Japanese nation, as it stands today (a mixture of Korean colonists, Chinese colonists and Ainu, other native tribes) was not there then !!! ! This is about all the times !!!!
            1. Greenwood
              Greenwood 7 March 2014 18: 12
              0
              That's right. And even this empire was repeatedly conquered. I am already silent about the many years of squabbles and discord that were in China itself.
    2. Interface
      Interface 7 March 2014 10: 13
      +1
      Will there be a "Victory Parade"? Chinese version?
      1. kare
        kare 7 March 2014 10: 22
        +15
        will be something like this
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 7 March 2014 10: 28
          +6
          But wonderful performance!
          Hats off to the Chinese comrades!
          hi hi hi
        2. Ustian
          Ustian 7 March 2014 10: 41
          +3
          Quote: kare
          will be something like this

          Powerful performance. I would also like to hear "Our proud Varyag does not surrender to the enemy .." good
          1. tronin.maxim
            tronin.maxim 7 March 2014 11: 22
            +2
            Quote: Ustian
            .I would also like to hear "Our proud Varyag does not surrender to the enemy .."

            Like a subtle hint to the Japanese!
            1. real
              real 7 March 2014 17: 47
              0
              I think in real life, Japan is a friend of both China and Russia !!! The enemy is everyone’s (real) one !!! - USA !!! The Japanese have a reason to hate amers more than the Chinese, Russians, Indians, Vietnamese !!!! For Hiroshima and Nagasaki, who bombed after the surrender of Japan, or almost surrender, it does not matter, everything was already clear !!! Not a single nation of the world has been subjected to such an insult and humiliation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, the Japanese are just waiting for a moment for revenge !!! And revenge will be terrible, in samurai traditions !!!
          2. GRNikita97
            GRNikita97 7 March 2014 23: 32
            0
            ours perform better, but well done
        3. Megatron
          Megatron 7 March 2014 15: 27
          +1
          will be something like this

          Not bad, not bad. As far as I know, the Chinese generally love Russian songs, Katyusha they have, almost a folk song.
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 7 March 2014 18: 19
            +2

            Japanese women sing Katyusha in the cartoon. And you say they are our enemy.
        4. Yarik
          Yarik 7 March 2014 15: 30
          +2
          And what ... the first two lines very much ...
  2. Vadim12
    Vadim12 7 March 2014 08: 14
    +4
    The Chinese have a very good memory ... They will also avenge the Japs for the atrocities. Moreover, this thirst for revenge is brought up from an early age.
  3. Name
    Name 7 March 2014 08: 14
    0
    Well 3,14pec, next year with flags and the square! From August 9 to September 3 inclusive!Oh... belay recourseThe liver ... the spleen ... the kidneys ... ahhh, well, him.
  4. 020205
    020205 7 March 2014 08: 18
    +2
    I think ours, although not publicly, supports China, otherwise I can’t explain China’s support for us in the Ukrainian issue
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 7 March 2014 08: 31
      +10
      What does it mean behind the scenes? We have a wagon and a cart of friendship and cooperation agreements, we are together in economic unions, and, most importantly, we do not meddle in the affairs of China.

      So it's almost like in the old song "Russian and Chinese - brothers forever".

      And the fact that they decided to celebrate the analogue of 9 in May is well done. We celebrate Victory - why don't they celebrate? Even with our help, but they won? As if one more reason for rapprochement - victory was created together.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 7 March 2014 08: 38
        +4
        Quote: Banshee

        And the fact that they decided to celebrate the analogue of May 9 - well done.

        Roman, they also celebrate this holiday in the Far East, you can combine everything.
  5. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 7 March 2014 08: 37
    0
    Quote: 020205
    I think ours, although not publicly, supports China, otherwise I can’t explain China’s support for us in the Ukrainian issue

    against Japan, Russia China supports; against China, Russia supports India and Vietnam.
    The Chinese are not.
    In the Ukrainian question, they are on our side against Sasha.
    1. real
      real 7 March 2014 18: 00
      -1
      China, Russia, India, Japan, South Korea, North Korea, Vietnam are practically allies !!!! While not classy !!! Except for the China-Russia coupling !!!!
  6. polly
    polly 7 March 2014 08: 45
    +9
    The Japanese deserve this attitude towards themselves "honestly" among many peoples, including our Far East. In civilian life, my grandmother threw small children on a cart and hid in the forest with them when they managed to warn that the Japanese were going to the village, and the elders the sons were partisans.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 7 March 2014 11: 16
      0
      Tell it to the residents of Vladivostok, driving Japanese cars, watching anime and dramas, and buying up Japanese goods. So, as a resident of this city, I will say that the attitude towards the Japanese is good. There are many tourists from Japan, local authorities conduct various economic projects together with Japan, Japanese musicians, actors, businessmen, politicians, etc. come to us.
      1. Landwarrior
        Landwarrior 7 March 2014 11: 37
        +3
        You know, in the 30s there was a large Russian diaspora in the Chinese city of Harbin. They also treated the Japanese well ... Until the Japanese detachment 731 did not start experimenting with them in order to find out their survival laughing
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 7 March 2014 15: 00
          0
          It is not necessary to project the crimes of the Second World War on the current situation. In the end, in the war with Germany, we lost almost 30 million people, but for some reason, most Russian citizens perceive this country normally and do not call the Germans fascists and enemies. It just so happened that I had very close contact with the Japanese (both with children and adults) since childhood, I know Japanese quite well and imagine the Japanese mentality and culture. These are for the most part very nice people, sympathetic, always smiling, always polite, never offending the other person (which unfortunately most of our compatriots cannot brag about). But, in the conditions of hostilities, they do manifest innate Asian cruelty and ruthlessness, often unusual for Europeans. But similar is present among the Chinese and Koreans, and almost all Asian peoples, including those living in Russia.
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      3. Setrac
        Setrac 7 March 2014 12: 22
        +2
        Quote: Greenwood
        Tell it to the residents of Vladivostok, driving Japanese cars, watching anime and dramas, and buying up Japanese goods. So, as a resident of this city, I will say that the attitude towards the Japanese is good.

        Yes, you my friend is a collaborationist.
        1. Greenwood
          Greenwood 7 March 2014 14: 28
          0
          Quote: Setrac
          Yes, you my friend is a collaborationist.

          Collaboration (fr. collaboration - “cooperation”) in the legal interpretation of international law - conscious, voluntary and intentional cooperation with the enemy, in his interests and to the detriment of his state.
          Is Japan our enemy?
      4. polly
        polly 7 March 2014 12: 46
        +1
        "Tell that to the residents of Vladivostok who drive Japanese cars ..."
        As a resident of Primorye, I also drive a Toyota, but where is this? And I will not encroach on tourists, with the other list of Japanese citizens you have provided, so do not confuse the sinful with the righteous ... But I will not forget the atrocities of the Japanese invaders in my hometown. If this is no longer relevant for the "anime-watching" residents of Vladivostok, do not speak for the whole region ...
      5. Yura
        Yura 7 March 2014 12: 47
        +2
        Quote: Greenwood
        Japanese musicians, actors, businessmen, politicians, etc. come to us.

        Well, well, it remains to wait for the Japanese military, they love a little man, which of course does not prevent them from being elevated esthetes (well, frankly golemish Frenchmen and not Japanese, gourmets damn terribly), as well as their love for the constant training of their weapons in warm blood, again exalts them in their own eyes and is sung by them.
        1. Aleksandr
          Aleksandr 7 March 2014 18: 37
          0
          but for cars and so on, nothing personal was paid
  7. Yura
    Yura 7 March 2014 09: 24
    +2
    And why do the Japanese have an atomic bomb? After all, their soldiers are so strong and powerful that they massacred more than 300000 unarmed Chinese in Nanjing, and this is almost twice as many people as destroyed by the Americans in Japan with the help of two atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
  8. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 7 March 2014 09: 41
    +5
    When the Japanese prime minister goes to the temple to read war criminals who have ruined hundreds of thousands of lives, it is normal when China introduces a day of remembrance to these very hundreds of thousands of people tortured and killed by the Japanese military, this causes "concern." In fact, the Japanese Empire is the same Third Reich, only in Asia, although what for the same Americans or the "Civilized community" the life of some millions of Chinese or there Russians, if they are destroyed by the "superior race"?
  9. ZU-23
    ZU-23 7 March 2014 09: 58
    +1
    Let the Chinese take Japan, it’s not at all a pity, all the more so since the birth rate of Yapos is even lower; their mating with Americans is not long in coming.
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 7 March 2014 17: 22
      0
      Quote: ZU-23
      Let the Chinese take Japan, it’s not at all a pity, all the more so since the birth rate of Yapos is even lower; their mating with Americans is not long in coming.

      I think Crimea will go to Russia, and China will deal with Taiwan or politically return or by military means.
  10. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 7 March 2014 10: 12
    +3
    China did not just realize its power; besides, he felt that the United States was weak as never before and apart from the ambitions backed up by inertia for a protracted war, nothing is just for a protracted war and with hundreds of thousands of dead, the Tomahawks are good as a means of a first strike, but Americans understand that if this does not break, then ..c, multiply by a billion, add Russia ..
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 7 March 2014 18: 47
      0
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      behind for a protracted war there is nothing specifically for a protracted
      I didn’t want to defend the USA, but I won’t. I’m just trying to understand what China has for a protracted war, which the United States does not have. The United States has a giant fleet, powerful aircraft, a bunch of bases and bridgeheads in Asia. And what can China oppose to this? Billion population? The Chinese and during World War II had a lot of population, helped a lot? Or maybe 300 antediluvian missiles of the level of the 60s? Well, it’s funny ... And then, you know very well that the United States has the experience of bribing leadership, as was done in Iraq. In China, despite the death penalty in the CPC, a very high level of corruption, many officials behave no worse than ours in terms of budget utilization and the first capital in the offshore. It is a well-known fact that almost half of the members of the CCP are businessmen, and many children study in Europe and the USA. Well?
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      multiply by a billion add Russia
      China together with Russia will fight against the United States? You need to watch less action films and read the novels of Tom Clancy (this is in his books all these crazy stories).
  11. Gagarin
    Gagarin 7 March 2014 10: 20
    +3
    TIGER IS GROWING AND CRACKING!
    (and teeth shows)
  12. pensioner
    pensioner 7 March 2014 10: 29
    +3
    It seems to me that Japan is doomed in a historical perspective.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 7 March 2014 18: 49
      0
      Yeah, I’m doomed to once again show China that the warrior from it is bad, as the Vietnamese in 79th showed it to us, our border guards on Damansky in the 69th and the Japanese themselves in the 37th. From China, the fighter is the same as from the Arabs.
  13. rugor
    rugor 7 March 2014 11: 12
    +5
    According to the Japanese, Beijing wants to change the balance of power in the Asia-Pacific region


    Already cheated if someone didn't notice
  14. parusnik
    parusnik 7 March 2014 11: 16
    +5
    Good holiday, let them celebrate .. The shadow should know its place .. On the occasion of the holiday, you are the citizens of China!
    There is our part there, thank you for the memory of our soldiers who died in this war!
  15. Andrey160479
    Andrey160479 7 March 2014 11: 21
    +6
    Read the Japanese Occupation History of China. What the Japanese occupants did is not amenable to any human understanding. By atrocities, they even surpassed the German fascists during the 2nd World War. It's time to pay your debts. Now about China, we can safely say that this is a great country in every way.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 7 March 2014 18: 36
      0
      Quote: Andrey160479
      Read the Japanese Occupation History of China.
      Read. What's next? Will you recall the crimes of the militaristic government of the 200s for another 40 years to the Japanese? Or we still come back today.
      Quote: Andrey160479
      Now about China, we can safely say that this is a great country in every way.
      And who cut our frontier guards into pieces on the Damansky Peninsula in the 69th? Isn't it "Great Country" by chance? And where then were the massive anti-Soviet rallies? Not in "Great Country"? And who was the US pumped up with dough as opposed to the Soviet Union? I think the answer is overkill. And it was not during the war, but in the quite peaceful 60-70s.
  16. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 7 March 2014 12: 09
    +1
    But we surpassed China in all respects (except for the number). Imagine how powerful the USSR would be now, it's hard for me to imagine.
  17. jamalena
    jamalena 7 March 2014 13: 03
    +3
    - Watch the doc film "Death Conveyor" by E. Masyuk and the Chinese films "The Man Behind the Sun", "Nanking, Nanking", "Black Sun", "Remembering 1942" and you will understand the Chinese!
  18. 020205
    020205 7 March 2014 13: 03
    +1
    Quote: Greenwood
    riding Japanese cars

    Not only Vladivostok and the Far East ride on Japanese cars, but all of Siberia rides to the Urals, so what?
    1. oblako
      oblako 7 March 2014 16: 22
      0
      Winning cars is not forbidden to win trophy cars ... soldier
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    3. Greenwood
      Greenwood 7 March 2014 18: 29
      +1
      Well, be consistent, since "Japan is our enemy", then give up your Toyota, Sony TV, Canon camera, etc. I have never heard such frank statements like "Japan is the enemy" from anyone in Vlad. Everyone knows very well about the Kuril Islands, everyone knows very well, including the Japanese, that the Kuriles will remain with us (sobsno dispute about the islands is needed mainly by politicians to increase the electorate's rating; most Japanese have never heard of the Kuriles). And all the more, there is no need to extol China (in the end, it also allegedly looks to the Far East, and in general we fought on the Damansky Peninsula, and in the 80s he was friends with America against the USSR and other stereotyped arguments).
  19. Greenwood
    Greenwood 7 March 2014 14: 48
    -1
    People, I do not really understand the local comments in the style of "Japan is doomed", "the Chinese are giving them luli", "China is our friend, Japan is the enemy", etc. More precisely, the complete inconsistency of the commentators is surprising. In articles about China, many of you write that the Chinese have a shitty technique, that they only know how to assemble iPhones and do nothing besides copy-pasting, that the Chinese army is equipped with cheap copies of Soviet trash from bearded 60-70s, etc. At the same time, everyone knows that the Japanese have an excellent industry, they rivet world-class equipment, everyone knows that the Japanese work in 60-70 hours a week, that discipline and hard work are valued above all human qualities in them, in contrast to the Chinese, who , what really play up, have always been good hucksters, but no more. Japan's economy is only 3 times inferior to the Chinese with a population 10 times smaller. Japan is constantly updating its army, air force, navy, they have a large military budget, not much less than the Russian one.
    So why did the Chinese so easily kick the ass of the Japanese? Are you kidding me chtoli? I understand that the tone of the article makes us take the side of China, but let's be objective. The Japanese almost without loss occupied all the strategic territories of China in the 30s, and at the same time captured almost all of Southeast Asia, having beaten even the British. The Americans fought with them for 4 years, squeezing from the islands for months. Our army was able to successfully fight the Japanese only after a 4-year-old bloody war with the Wehrmacht, having gotten a hand on it (as if it did not sound cynical).
    Yes, we defeated Japan. Yes, she is now an ally of the United States, but that does not make her militarily weak. China has only 2 serious advantages over Japan: a large population and the presence of nuclear weapons. For all other parameters, approximate parity. Where China takes in quantity, Japan in quality.
    By the way, for some reason, the US military budget is gigantic compared with Russia, 11 aircraft carriers, 800 military bases, etc. not they force everyone to write hysterical comments in the style of "In the event of a war with the United States, we have a cover, the pi_ndos will crush us," etc., despite the fact that we have experienced the collapse of the 90s, chronic underfunding of the army, Serdyukov reforms. Everyone knows very well that we have our own advantages and of course the overall fighting spirit plays a significant role. A similar situation is with China-Japan.
    For my part, I think that we need to be friends with both countries, and not splash saliva in the style of "the Japs demand the Kuril Islands, the Chinese will pile on them", etc. in this article, and "China cannot do anything, Chinese planes are a copy of ours, they are falling apart on the move, the Chinese only rivet iPhones, they are hucksters, they attacked us on Damansky, etc." in articles about China.
    Regarding the article, I believe that the Chinese should not arrange such holidays, since they were not defeated by Japan, but by the USSR and the USA. The Chinese take on other people's laurels.
    1. albert
      albert 7 March 2014 16: 35
      +1
      Quote: Greenwood
      Our army was able to successfully fight the Japanese only after a 4-year-old bloody war with the Wehrmacht, having gotten a hand on it (as if it did not sound cynical).

      Is it that Lake Hassan and Khalkhin Gol do not count? belay
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 7 March 2014 18: 40
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        However, the fighting lasted long enough, more than 3 months. And in the 45th Kwantung Army was defeated in a matter of weeks. In any case, the Japanese army was and remains the most combat-ready in Asia. Korea can also be called a belligerent and capable of war country. But China, by no means saturated with trade, no matter how big and strong it may seem.
    2. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 7 March 2014 18: 21
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      Quote: Greenwood
      , I believe that the Chinese should not arrange such holidays, since Japan was still defeated not by them, but by the USSR and the USA. The Chinese take on other people's laurels.

      I do not agree that the Chinese should not celebrate the victory over Japan if you read which

      Chinese suffered losses in the war with Japan, as they fought with the Japanese occupation, I think

      they have the right to classify themselves as winners. Let's analyze today's situation by

      Crimea, the West threatens us with severe sanctions, supporting China, we will strengthen our position in

      economic situation, China will help Russia and we will avoid difficulties from sanctions, then we

      we can calmly respond to the claims of Japan on the Kuril Islands, because the dragon wants a controversial
      territories primarily in southeast Asia, and Russia will quietly choose allies. I think Putin

      will play the southeast card in favor of Russia
  20. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 7 March 2014 15: 22
    +1
    Well, the Chinese "love" the Japanese, so they "love" ...

    urinal at a chinese restaurant in harbin


    The Japanese know that the Chinese "love" them and answer them with the same coin, however, considering that the Chinese have nuclear weapons and the Japanese do not, it turns out to be trite ...
  21. chenia
    chenia 7 March 2014 15: 35
    +4
    Quote: Greenwood
    Our army was able to successfully fight the Japanese only after a 4-year-old bloody war with the Wehrmacht, having gotten a hand on it (as if it did not sound cynical).


    Well, in the first they were kicked back in 1939, when our Army was weaker than in 1941.
    And at 45 one-goal game.

    Quote: Greenwood
    The Americans fought with them for 4 years, squeezing from the islands for months.


    So this is the problem of the Americans, they and Overlord thanks to the Germans realized (they already wanted to lose, but only to the Western allies - this refers to the German generals).

    The Japanese do not have a samurai spirit (the accident at the nuclear power plant showed heroes, which is not enough), but in technical terms there are superiorities.

    And in matters of geopolitics - they have problems (which means mattresses too), it is easier for us, and this is unequivocal. And what to do? - the world is not perfect.
  22. Greenwood
    Greenwood 7 March 2014 18: 56
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    On the night of March 1 to 2, 1969, about 300 Chinese soldiers in winter camouflage, armed with SKS carbines and (partially) Kalashnikovs, crossed to Damansky and lay on the higher west coast of the island.

    The group went unnoticed until 10:20, when a report was received from the observation post at the 2nd Nizhne-Mikhailovka outpost of the 57th Iman border detachment that a group of armed people of up to 30 people was moving in the direction of Damansky. 32 Soviet border guards traveled to the scene, including the chief of the outpost, Senior Lieutenant Ivan Strelnikov, in GAZ-69 and GAZ-63 cars and one BTR-60PB (No. 04). At 10:40 they arrived at the southern tip of the island. Border guards under the command of Strelnikov were divided into two groups. The first group, under the command of Strelnikov, headed for a group of Chinese troops standing on ice southwest of the island. The second group, under the command of Sergeant Vladimir Rabovich, was supposed to cover Strelnikov’s group from the south coast of the island, cutting off a group of Chinese military personnel (about 20 people) who went inland.

    Around 10:45, Strelnikov expressed his protest over the violation of the border and demanded that Chinese troops leave the territory of the USSR. One of the Chinese servicemen raised his hand up, which served as a signal for the Chinese side to open fire on Strelnikov and Rabovich groups. The moment of the beginning of the armed provocation was able to fix ordinary photographer Nikolai Petrov on the film. At this point, Rabovich’s group was ambushed by the island, and small arms fire was fired at the border guards. Strelnikov and the border guards who followed him (7 people) were killed, the bodies of the border guards were badly disfigured by the Chinese military, and the border guards detachment under the command of Sergeant Rabovich (11 people) almost completely died in a fleeting battle - Private Gennady Serebrov and Corporal Pavel Akulov survived, subsequently captured in an unconscious state. The body of Akulov with numerous traces of torture was transferred to the Soviet side on April 17, 1969.

    Junior sergeant Yuri Babansky took over command of the surviving border guards, whose squad managed to secretly disperse off the island due to a delay in the advance from the outpost, and together with the armored personnel carrier took fire.
    “After 20 minutes of battle- recalled Babansky, - Of the 12 children, eight remained alive, another 15 - five. Of course, it was still possible to retreat, return to the outpost, wait for reinforcements from the detachment. But we were seized with such fierce anger at these bastards that in those minutes I wanted only one thing - to put them as much as possible. For the guys, for themselves, for this span that no one needs, but still our land»
    I’m not sure that these fighters would be in solidarity with you in terms of the senseless praise of China and the same meaningless lowering of Japan. Let me remind you that at the same time in the 69th USSR planned large-scale use of weapons of mass destruction in the cities of China, but China was hated by the United States, which they hated everyone, threatening to launch a nuclear strike on 130 Soviet cities. Those. In this case, the United States became an ally to China.
    1. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 8 March 2014 15: 28
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      I do not remember about the demarches of amers in 1969.
      Yes, if they were to China, then they got bogged down in Vietnam ...
      And there we had a direct fire confrontation with them - so there were no reasons to hammer around the USSR without China.
      However, from Vtnam drapanuli, and afraid to use nuclear weapons.
      But .. against the Vietnamese, a chemical was used, and possibly a biological one.
      So my opinion about the mentioned demarche is a wingless imperialist duck.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 8 March 2014 17: 57
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        Quote: Sergey S.
        I do not remember about the demarches of amers in 1969.
        And why do you remember something. I suppose then you were not in the project either. Read articles about it. Even Wikipedia has it.
        Quote: Sergey S.
        However, from Vtnam drapanuli, and afraid to use nuclear weapons.
        Vienam is not a nuclear state. To use such weapons against him would be a war crime and would hurt US reputation.
        Quote: Sergey S.
        my opinion is demarche - a wingless imperialist duck.
        Read on the Internet before throwing phrases about ducks.
  23. chenia
    chenia 7 March 2014 19: 27
    +2
    Quote: Greenwood
    I’m not sure that these fighters would be in solidarity with you in terms of the senseless praise of China and the same meaningless lowering of Japan.



    I served as an officer on this theater for quite some time since the mid-seventies. And the Chinese do not idealize.
    But while they have problems with Japan, Russia is easier. So a system of checks and balances.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 8 March 2014 17: 58
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      I treat China and Japan equally well, so I believe that it is necessary to maintain good relations with both countries, and not be friends with one in spite of the other. In Asia, we should not have opponents.
  24. chenia
    chenia 7 March 2014 19: 47
    +1
    Quote: Greenwood
    Let me remind you that at the same time in the 69th USSR planned large-scale use of weapons of mass destruction in the cities of China, but China was hated by the United States, which they hated everyone, threatening to launch a nuclear strike on 130 Soviet cities. Those. The United States in this case became an ally to China.


    No comment, I realized I won’t argue anymore (I will never argue with a certain category of opponents).
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 8 March 2014 17: 59
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      Quote: chenia
      I never argue with a certain category of opponents
      Arguments in the studio.
  25. siberalt
    siberalt 7 March 2014 20: 57
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    Somehow, no one remembers that the Japanese killed more than 50 million Chinese during the Second World War. And you can understand them. Here's some kind of open secret. Not without sarcasm, racism and hatred. Purely out of curiosity. Why the more the yellow race is "weeded", the more numerous it is?
  26. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 7 March 2014 22: 26
    +1
    Quote: Greenwood
    However, the fighting lasted long enough, more than 3 months. And in the 45th Kwantung Army was defeated in a matter of weeks. In any case, the Japanese army was and remains the most combat-ready in Asia. Korea can also be called a belligerent and capable of war country. But China, by no means saturated with trade, no matter how big and strong it may seem.

    This is a historical conclusion.
    And there is civilization.
    When China did not know how to do anything worthwhile and fought with bought or donated weapons. his army was weak and cowardly.
    Now that almost all weapons are made with Chinese hands and brains, the army will be much more skillful and powerful.
    Besides. China has a positive experience - the Korean War, in which there was different, but most importantly experience gained.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 8 March 2014 18: 01
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      Quote: Sergey S.
      When China did not know how to do anything worthwhile and fought with bought or donated weapons. his army was weak and cowardly.
      It’s not weapons fighting, people are fighting. Common truth.
      Quote: Sergey S.
      almost all weapons are made with chinese hands and brains
      China even now constantly buys samples of military equipment from Russia and Ukraine.
      Quote: Sergey S.
      China has a positive experience - the Korean War, in which there was different, but most importantly experience gained.
      The main tactics of the Chinese in that war was to fill up the enemy with meat. They took in numbers, not skill. Nevertheless, this number did not help to defeat South Korea and the United States, alas.
  27. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 7 March 2014 22: 48
    -1
    Glory to Japan!
  28. jamalena
    jamalena 7 March 2014 23: 49
    +2
    - Glory to Russia!!!
  29. Dezinto
    Dezinto 8 March 2014 05: 11
    +2
    this bl what was it ?? I'm talking about a cartoon!, ....))) not so cool of course but very strange))
  30. comrade Bitch
    comrade Bitch 8 March 2014 16: 23
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    a growing predator is a threat. The Chinese, having easily grown stronger, can use the tactics of the Crimean Anschluz in the Far East.
  31. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 8 March 2014 19: 05
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    Quote: Greenwood
    Quote: Sergey S.
    I do not remember about the demarches of amers in 1969.
    And why do you remember something. I suppose then you were not in the project either. Read articles about it. Even Wikipedia has it.

    You made a big mistake.
    This is the time I remember.
    A little later, I talked with participants in Damansky.
    the fact is that the main events were so fleeting that the Moscow chiefs did not even have time to give orders under direct subordination.
    But then those who went through the Great Patriotic War also served in the USSR army.

    The commander of the military district just instantly transferred to the KGB (Border Troops) the motorized units closest to their deployment ... and our "border guards" responded in full ...

    And there was already no one to do the field of work of multiple launch rocket systems.

    And further.
    Wikipedia, like a lot on the internet, is written by anyone and stored on American servers ...
    So you can read it, but you can’t trust the information ...
    And this is not a joke.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 9 March 2014 18: 00
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      Quote: Sergey S.
      there were no one to do demarches
      A nuclear strike on the cities of China was one of the solutions to the problem if the provocations continued by the Chinese and the situation worsened further. The United States then began to establish relations with China in the peak of the USSR, a warning about the use of nuclear weapons in the cities of the Union was really transmitted to the Soviet leadership. In the future, the problem with China was corrected by transferring territories to China. But relations between the PRC and the USSR until the collapse of the Union remained tense, and the United States pumped China with investments, placed production facilities, shared technology, etc., which has led to such a huge breakthrough in China over the past few decades. Otherwise, he would have been the country of the Third World.
  32. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 8 March 2014 19: 10
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    Quote: Greenwood

    Quote: Sergey S.
    However, from Vtnam drapanuli, and afraid to use nuclear weapons.
    Vienam is not a nuclear state. To use such weapons against him would be a war crime and would hurt US reputation.

    ... you are a naive person ...
    Americans in Vietnam have committed so many war crimes ...
    In Vietnam, children with congenital malformations are still being born.

    Hundreds of hectares of jungle without leaves in defoliants.
    Mekong shores in poisonous oranges ...

    And the reputation of Sasha since that time in normal people simply does not exist.
    And people on the ball have since been divided into those who are afraid of Sasha and who are not afraid.
    ... and not smart people ...
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 9 March 2014 18: 05
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      Quote: Sergey S.
      You are a naive person ...
      Not at all ...
      Quote: Sergey S.
      Americans in Vietnam have committed so many war crimes ...
      Nobody judged them for this, so they are not formally considered as such crimes. Alas.
      Quote: Sergey S.
      And the reputation of Sasha since that time in normal people simply does not exist
      Uv, the US government propaganda works better than ours, this largely helped them win the Cold War and led to the fact that almost the whole world is now spreading in front of them, their bases are on all continents, their media culture has practically crushed their own culture in many countries, including Russia. And alas, the United States is much more popular all over the world than Russia, about which the majority of foreigners know either nothing at all, or only a cliché from the category of "cold, widespread poverty, the mafia is all around, Russians drink too much, Russians are ruled by bandits led by tyrant Putin" etc. And you say reputation.
  33. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 8 March 2014 19: 12
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    Quote: Greenwood

    Quote: Sergey S.
    my opinion is demarche - a wingless imperialist duck.
    Read on the Internet before throwing phrases about ducks.

    About the Internet already wrote.
    I advise you to eat information from direct participants.
  34. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 8 March 2014 19: 14
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    Quote: Greenwood
    Quote: Sergey S.
    When China did not know how to do anything worthwhile and fought with bought or donated weapons. his army was weak and cowardly.
    It’s not weapons fighting, people are fighting. Common truth.

    That is what I tried to explain to you.
    Those who understand weapons are fighting well.
    For example, ace Pokryshkin before that was an aircraft mechanic ...
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 9 March 2014 18: 08
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      In this case, the phrase about weapons is generally incomprehensible. What is the difference whose it is: Russian, American or their own Chinese, if they who own it do not know how to fight. Look at the Arabs how many weapons they fused at one time, in the same Iraq by 1991, even Tu-22 bombers were in service, as well as 5000 tanks, 500 planes, 300000 people, the army, and so what? The Americans rolled them without straining, and now they pump oil and behave there as masters.
  35. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 8 March 2014 19: 16
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    Quote: Greenwood
    [
    Quote: Sergey S.
    almost all weapons are made with chinese hands and brains
    China even now constantly buys samples of military equipment from Russia and Ukraine.

    No need to pretend.
    Now China is buying weapons in units and in small batches.
    But the PLA is armed specifically with Chinese-made weapons.

    By the way, from Ukraine, China is cheaply trying to get Soviet weapons.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 9 March 2014 18: 09
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      China buys weapons in small batches, because they are trying to immediately copy and pass them off as their own development. What happens at the output, you can roughly imagine. Nevertheless, to protect their strategic facilities, the Chinese chose not to install their systems, but bought 15 Russian S-300PMU-2 divisions.
  36. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 8 March 2014 19: 20
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    Quote: Greenwood

    Quote: Sergey S.
    China has a positive experience - the Korean War, in which there was different, but most importantly experience gained.
    The main tactics of the Chinese in that war was to fill up the enemy with meat. They took in numbers, not skill. Nevertheless, this number did not help to defeat South Korea and the United States, alas.

    The Chinese scattered when meeting in amer? - Not.
    Americans defeated North Korea? - Not.

    In that war, as a result, the parties remained "with their own."
    Alas.

    And the Chinese got an experience of war with sashniks ...
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 9 March 2014 18: 12
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      Quote: Sergey S.
      The Chinese scattered when meeting in amer? - Not.
      The Chinese have died several times more than the Americans.
      Quote: Sergey S.
      Americans defeated North Korea? - Not.
      Just like the Chinese could not do anything against the American troops, only to bring the front line back to the 38th parallel.
  37. chenia
    chenia 8 March 2014 20: 08
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    Quote: Greenwood
    Arguments in the studio.


    I’m not going to argue nonsense.


    China has every right to celebrate the victory; it fought (both the Kuomintang and the Communists).

    And. which is interesting at the time of the greatest confrontation with us (69-70). the Chinese, with manic stubbornness, violence against monuments to Soviet soldiers, wreaths and flowers, for our and their revolutionary holidays (staged true rallies about the degeneration of the USSR, etc.) watched them and looked after the graves of our soldiers.
  38. Pavellio
    Pavellio 10 March 2014 16: 48
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    At this pace, they will soon have a new victory over Japan. The tiger wakes up.