A milestone in history: the reunification of the Russian world. Crimea (Poll)

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whether Crimea will become part of Russia?

I believe that the Crimea will be part of the Russian Federation. - 5088 (77.61%)
77.61%
I think the reaction of Russia will be restrained. Crimea will become a sovereign state. - 826 (12.6%)
12.6%
I think that the Crimea will remain part of Ukraine. - 372 (5.67%)
5.67%
I doubt give a definite answer. - 268 (4.09%)
4.09%
March 6 2014, the Supreme Council of Crimea (Crimean Autonomous Republic) at the extraordinary plenary session decided to postpone the holding of the referendum on the status of Crimea on March 30 from 16 March this year. Over - spoke out to 78 lawmakers from 80. At the same time, the official website of the Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea was published and the issues that the authorities of the autonomy are going to put to a popular vote. If originally it was planned for the peoples of Crimea to ask a question of the following nature:

Are you for the state independence of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea as part of Ukraine on the basis of agreements and agreements?
now the wording is significantly changed.

Question one:

Are you for the reunification of Crimea with Russia as a subject of the Russian Federation?


Question two:

Are you for restoring the Constitution of the Republic of Crimea 1992 of the year and for the status of Crimea as part of Ukraine?


"Yes", for obvious reasons, there can be only one. The peoples of Crimea 16 March will decide which question they will answer positively.

Thus, after 16 March 2014, the Crimea and the city under the central government of Sevastopol, which will hold a referendum together, uniquely change their current status, and either become a republic with a large degree of autonomy within Ukraine (de facto state within a state - an option Confederation), or get all the features for reunification with Russia.

A milestone in history: the reunification of the Russian world. Crimea (Poll)


Crimean parliament to explain the transfer of the referendum on the status of Crimea two weeks ahead that extremist groups have not abandoned their attempts to penetrate the territory of the peninsula in order to escalate tensions and anti-constitutional seizure of power. Once again, the Crimean parliament declared the people who are in positions of power in Kiev illegitimate government, formed in a coup in the country.

One of the most critical points of the decision of the Crimean parliament - a direct appeal to Russian President Vladimir Putin with a proposal to start the procedure for joining the Crimea to the Russian Federation as its subject. The sharpness of this point is the fact that the treatment is directed to the Russian president before the referendum. The very Ukrainian psevdovlasti, take a seat in Kiev, called the decision the Armed Forces of the Crimea as illegitimate, extremist, separatist, and others in the same spirit. This Crimean parliament, and the vast majority of the population of the peninsula rather coolly answered: who's talking ...

A woman with a scythe has already spoken about the future of the Crimean referendum. Ms. Tymoshenko said:

It is clear to the whole world that this referendum is absolutely illegitimate. The referendum at gunpoint is not a referendum. This is violence.


That is, the overthrow of the elected president, the dissolution of the constitutional court, the seizure of the central authorities of Ukraine under the muzzles of sniper rifles, under the blows of automatic rifle butts like on the table, and in the head, the flames, the smoke and stench - it is a normal democratic process, and the decision absolutely legitimate parliamentary body of the Crimea - is violence ... "Gas Princess" knows his stuff. Those who hold her braid tightly taught Yulia Vladimirovna what the true double standards are.

So, Crimea is preparing to choose its further path.

Russian parliamentarians called the decision of their Crimean colleagues historical. Deputy Sergei Neverov on this subject speaks as follows:

We are a single people, which by the will of the irresponsibility of the party functionaries was divided.


But this can become a truly new milestone in the history not only of Crimea and Russia, but also in the history of all modern civilization. If the Crimean peoples vote for the peninsula to be included in the Russian Federation as a subject, and if Russia demonstrates political will and makes its own decision, this will be the first reunion of a divided people from the moment of unification of the two Germans - reunification of parts of the Russian world.

If the referendum is held, it would be interesting to reflect on how votes can be distributed. If we take into account that the ethnic composition of the Crimea is like a puff pie, where there is a place for Russians, Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars, Jews, and other nationalities, then one opinion can hardly be expected. However, it can be assumed that the majority of Crimeans will answer “yes” to the first question. And if the opinion of these Crimeans wins, how will those who vote for the autonomy of the republic within Ukraine behave in Crimea?

Of course, without a search for consensus in this case simply can not do. After all, to get hostile group of people at near by the Crimean authorities, for natural reasons, not desirable. Russia does not want and get a big headache in the form of wanting to necessarily defend their position to preserve their lands in the Ukrainian state. How can a consensus be reached in such a daunting situation? After all, on the one hand, the reunification of the Russian world and the majority opinion are still on the map (hypothetical for the time being, since the referendum has not yet been held), but on the other hand it is a minority opinion (also hypothetical), which also seems to be reckoned with. But, in the end, haven't we been taught democracy in recent years? And democracy is an interesting thing. If the majority said, then the minority must either obey, “either one of the two” ...

It seems that here is exactly the situation in which one has to step over someone's interests, sadly ... Everything returns to normal, says ancient wisdom. Asked whether the Russian authorities in Crimea in 1954 year of their desire to "merge" in brotherly Ukraine? No, I did not ask. Does the current pseudo-power of Ukraine ask the Crimeans about whether their interests include the policy that these pseudo-authorities send? No, not asking. So whether it's time has come, finally, to ask the people of Crimea: with whom and under what laws they want to live?

And the most interesting thing is: when the opinion of the Crimean people was ignored for decades - no one from the outside shouted about illegitimacy, arbitrariness, etc., and as soon as the Crimean people are going to ask about their opinion, appropriate opinions from “international experts” are pouring in and “human rights professionals” with notes of resentment. In this regard, the "experts" and "professionals" want to ask the Lord, where are you before something was? Where was your position when the Soviet Union was slashed, although according to the results of the referendum, the majority of respondents were in favor of preserving it? Where was your indignation when they were going to tear the North Caucasus from Russia? Where .. So today's your indignation and Crimean peoples, and Russia exactly will survive - not as experienced.

PS If Crimeans in the referendum were in favor of joining the Crimea in the Russian Federation, then in order to fully comply with all legal norms, it would be reasonable to hold an appropriate referendum in Russia. But to whom are we going to prove something - to those who have wiped their feet for decades on state and international law? .. Those who “fired” peaceful cities from Yugoslavia to North Africa and the Middle East without any referendums? .. Everything still frothing at the mouth at the "partners" will go, though 10 referendums carried out. Only double standards are good against double standards - popular transatlantic wisdom ...

PPS Washington tensed up: it must be counting the number of Russian-speakers in Alaska ...

Expert Opinions

KONSTANTIN ZATULIN, Director of the Institute of CIS Countries: “1. I am right now in Simferopol. The delegation of the Armed Forces of the Crimea went to Moscow. In the corridors of the council, people express hot approval, and the same thing happens on the square in front of the Supreme Council.

Let me remind you, three times the Council returned to the question of a referendum. It was to be held on 30 March. But the question that was raised (to expand the rights of the Crimea as part of Ukraine), allowed for ambiguous interpretation. The answer “No” could also imply that a person is against the Crimea remaining in Ukraine. And the fact that against the old scheme of relations between Kiev and Simferopol. Therefore, the questions, of course, required editing. The point is not even in the subtleties of the editorial board, but in the fact that the situation does not stand still. In Crimea, they have already been convinced that the new authorities of Ukraine are not negotiable.

Citizens of Ukraine have the right to hold a referendum. Although the law on the referendum has not been adopted. People have a right, but they could not realize it. The result of the referendum is predetermined. But there will be no 100 percent of votes for joining Russia.

2. There are different opinions. I would sin against the truth, giving an unequivocal answer. But the will of the people can not be replaced by anything. This will create a situation where it will be possible to negotiate, to seek compromises. But the basis should be respect for the results of the referendum. ”

ALEXEY MUKHIN, Director General of the Center for Political Information: “1. The results of the referendum can be predicted. Pro-Russian sentiments are strong in Crimea, and the decision will be in favor of joining. But all this does not mean that the accession process will be launched. It is now more about a direct reaction to the emerging desire of the new authorities in Kiev to join NATO and lie under the IMF on bondage.

2. I believe that theoretically, the entry of the Crimea into the Russian Federation is possible. From a political point of view, this has yet to be discussed. The reaction of the West will be frenzied and hysterical. The annexation of the Crimea to Russia will be considered by them as a catastrophe.

SERGEY MIKHEEV, Head of the Center for Political Studies: “2. I think the reaction of Russia will be restrained. An example is South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Transnistria. They have repeatedly made decisions about joining Russia, sounded appeals to the Russian authorities. But so far none of them is a part of Russia ”.

Valery Rashkin, State Duma deputy, member of the Central Committee of the Communist Party: “1-2. Extremely radical terrorist forces will not leave Crimea alone, a violent invasion of the radicals on the peninsula is inevitable if it makes a different decision. And people feel it, so I have no doubt that at least 80% of Crimeans will vote "for" entry into Russia. But in addition to the decision of the Crimea, a decision of Russia on the adoption of the republic as a subject of the Russian Federation should also take place. I believe that we must quickly conduct it through the State Duma, the Federation Council, after which it must be approved by the president. At the same time, it is necessary to resolve the issue of social guarantees and budget expenditures related to reunification. ”

Oksana Dmitrieva, deputy of the State Duma (Fair Russia): “1. I am a Russian deputy and I can not predict the results of the will of the citizens of another at the moment state. I would rather say about the risks that may arise from Russia. I am one of those deputies who in recent years have fought against all oil and gas revenues to invest in the Reserve Fund and the National Treasure Fund and store them in foreign securities. But we stubbornly invested money in the US and some Western European debt instruments. I was against Russia's accession to the WTO and the full opening of the domestic market. I have all the time been opposed to building up external private debt. In the face of economic and geopolitical crises, all of this can be very dangerous.

Add to this the fact that many of our largest companies registered in foreign jurisdictions, and the notorious dependence on raw materials in Russia. As a result, if the West really wants, there is a threat of losing a catastrophic amount of money. As for the most terrible risks - the military, I hope that they will not exist. ”
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  1. +46
    7 March 2014 08: 02
    from the Don.
    Well, it’s almost done! And still we’ll wait on March 16, and only then we will pour glasses!
    1. +139
      7 March 2014 08: 09
      It's only the beginning. And the whole war is yet to come. Do you really think that the West and those in Kiev will leave it just like that?
      There will be many more. And the announcement of the referendum illegitimate, and the "press" in the media, and provocations.
      So let me quote Putin: "We will definitely drink to this with you. But then. When everything is over."
      1. +65
        7 March 2014 08: 25
        Quote: Banshee
        This is just the beginning. And the whole war is yet to come

        Ahead of the battle for Donetsk, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov and Odessa. Further cent of Ukraine!
        1. +29
          7 March 2014 09: 13
          In the light of recent events, everything is just beginning. And no matter how much we would like the opposite, but the West will now throw all its forces into blocking the Crimea, provocations from Kiev are possible, which they will later attribute to Russia. The big game begins. Here either pan or disappeared. There is no third. hi
          1. +31
            7 March 2014 09: 17
            Quote: major071
            The big game begins.


            As one Amer senator said: Putin plays chess, and we play balls!
            1. +18
              7 March 2014 09: 18
              With Abkhazia, Ossetia and Transnistria, the situation is legally different. And here the Crimea will hold a referendum. Legitimate legitimate president of Ukraine will officially approve the reunification. From the Crimea it will begin. Cool, but Yanukovych will thus become the new Bogdan Khmelnitsky.
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                1. +13
                  7 March 2014 12: 09
                  .
                  "And we will hang (Crimeans) later" - statement by Boris Filatov - deputy new governor of the Dnipropetrovsk region oligarch Kolomoisky.

                  And here is the link to the original: https://www.facebook.com/borys.filatov/posts/603173516431216

                  That's who seized power in Ukraine. Symbiosis of the fascists and the mafia.
                  1. +5
                    7 March 2014 15: 21
                    In Hitler Germany, there was also a symbiosis of big business.
                    1. +28
                      7 March 2014 16: 40
                      Quote: Duke
                      In Hitler Germany, there was also a symbiosis of big business.

                      The structure of Russia will include the autonomous republic of Crimea, with all its environs (see map).
                      On the remaining patch, called Ukraine, O'bam will stand on one leg with hungry oligarchs in his arms.
                      1. +6
                        7 March 2014 19: 41
                        Quote: Andriuha077
                        The structure of Russia will include the autonomous republic of Crimea, with all its environs (see map).
                        On the remaining patch, called Ukraine, O'bam will stand on one leg with hungry oligarchs in his arms.

                        A bit wrong. On the left will be .........deleted by moderator Apollo, and on the right, Ukraine and Crimea are part of Russia.
                      2. Current 72
                        +1
                        8 March 2014 01: 35
                        God grant that this would happen, but I'm afraid that these maydaunas will show their teeth more than once!
                      3. +1
                        10 March 2014 15: 14
                        The structure of Russia will include the autonomous republic of Crimea, with all its environs (see map).

                        such a beautiful card
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                  2. My opinion
                    -4
                    10 March 2014 21: 41
                    Another agitprop nonsense! The same as the beating of a grandmother carrying flowers to the monument to Lenin. (There is no monument for 10 years already). as the performance of the same artists in different cities of Ukraine at pro-Russian rallies about the alleged infringement of their rights and fear for life. Well, the performance of a "Ukrainian" soldier with a Kalash of the 100th series which is not in service with the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
                    1. 0
                      22 March 2014 19: 53
                      Quote: Washing
                      Another propaganda nonsense! Same as beating a grandmother carrying flowers to the monument to Lenin

                      Another Fashington nonsense.
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              3. +3
                7 March 2014 11: 41
                Yeah, as soon as it comes out of intensive care. And then his condrat was enough from worrying about the fate of Ukraine.
            2. +2
              8 March 2014 00: 16
              Quote: SHILO
              As one Amerian senator said: Putin plays chess, and we play balls!

              good We live in a fun time. They don’t get bored)
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          2. +7
            7 March 2014 10: 02
            With provocations, one must also be careful. As if any provocation was not the last in the world.
            I do not think that the instinct for self-preservation has completely atrophied in the West.
            1. +5
              7 March 2014 12: 10
              And brains too laughing
            2. 0
              7 March 2014 12: 10
              And brains too laughing
            3. +6
              7 March 2014 15: 11
              It is self-preservation, they depend more on Russia, almost all production is designed for the Russian buyer, and China is in line for energy. Lose - no longer receive
            4. 0
              10 March 2014 18: 54
              Do not forget - there are more important things than the world!
            5. 0
              10 March 2014 18: 54
              Do not forget - there are more important things than the world!
          3. VAF
            VAF
            +22
            7 March 2014 10: 45
            Quote: major071
            In the light of recent events, everything is just beginning.


            Absolutely! +! drinks
            Americans and GayEurope, like "zombie dolls", although why how wassat they carry such a 2labudu on TV. "That ... in short there are no words.
            I look at the same time and euronews .. mom dear ... I never heard such nonsense.
            such a feeling. that this whole "civilization" is on another planet. belay
            And the most "interesting". that they give to speak at all meetings and summits to Galstukoed, who openly calls us fascists (this is the result of softness ... would have reached Tbilisi and ... wassat ). about the Balts .. I don't want to talk at all. The paddling pool .. "stsuka" podzabornaya and merkel in the same place.
            honestly .. I don’t like it. how ours are waging an information war .. war, so war!
            Where is the collection of all accredited magazines of the west? After all, in Moscow their representations are like .. dirt wassat
            Collect and ... lay out all the facts, and give everyone a documented confirmation in the form of a video, let them broadcast!
            And then we show ourselves and everything about Lviv and about Rivne and about the atrocities of the Nazis and Natsik .... why, request .we then know all this and it is not necessary to persuade us on anything, but they should be "beaten on the go" angry !!!! Yes, preferably in the face and "s.su.n.o.y." with a rag.
            Clear. that regardless of all this "fuss" the bases of NATs will be in Ukraine, with all the ensuing consequences soldier
            It's time .. oh it's time to move from words to CASE !!! soldier

            Well, the latest news from our region, at the checkpoint on the border with Ukraine, the entry of males of 20 years and older is prohibited wink

            afraid of the Nazis. that friendly visits from 2 polite people "will begin lol Apparently someone is learning history well from them (friendly aid to North Korea from China in the form of 500 "relatives and friends") wink
            1. +24
              7 March 2014 11: 32
              Sergey, hello! Everything will be fine ... Let them be hysterical, The "polite people" will not let them disrupt the referendum in Crimea.
              the checkpoint "Crimea" was taken under control

              "About 100 armed special forces soldiers were taken out of the checkpoint by force representatives of all control services and completely took control," the press release says.
              After - six military vehicles proceeded across the border, where there were 200 people in black camouflage uniforms without identification marks.

              link

              And here is a girl with a sniper rifle in a case smile Spring!
              Cossacks can not resist a beautiful girl!
              1. +6
                7 March 2014 16: 39
                Quote: Ascetic
                Cossacks can not resist a beautiful girl!

                Five yes, staring at the legs, but one woman is not interested or no longer interested wassat
                hi Stanislav hi
                1. +8
                  7 March 2014 20: 36
                  So it’s always like that. Who’s talking about, and Romanov about women wink
                  1. +6
                    7 March 2014 20: 48
                    Quote: Odessitka
                    That's always like that.


                    I take this opportunity to congratulate you on Esther and Egoza and all the other visitors I don’t know about our forum on the upcoming 8 of March. I wish you all, first of all, good health, success and family happiness.


                    Quote: Odessitka
                    and Romanov about women

                    Well, this is normal. Well, what would they do without women. laughing
                    1. +1
                      7 March 2014 22: 44
                      I am joining. Health, good luck and peace.
            2. Baboon
              +2
              8 March 2014 02: 46
              So you forgot about Brzezinski, he was also shown as an expert. He was introduced as a writer and an expert (they would have voiced the contents of his books in order to understand what kind of expertise would be). So they have there, most importantly, Ukraine is presented as something alien to Russia, like there are no relatives, friends or ties with Russia at all.
            3. 0
              8 March 2014 18: 45
              Quote: vaf
              Well, the latest news from our region, at the checkpoint on the border with Ukraine, the entry of males of 20 years and older is prohibited

              It doesn’t matter, in Crimea, Serb brothers are already helping Crimeans and the Bulgarians say they’ve arrived ...
            4. My opinion
              -4
              10 March 2014 21: 54
              That's just the point, NON-KINGDOM !! There are NO facts confirming the correctness of Russian aggression !!! There are other facts, the Russian troops in Crimea, which your first persons stubbornly call the Crimean self-defense (which appeared out of nowhere in a couple of days, with the latest Russian weapons, heavy equipment and aviation, numbering about 1-15 thousand people). A representative of the "fraternal" people, in the Russian-speaking Kiev there is a queue of volunteers at the military enlistment offices. Access throughout Ukraine is free for even Russian journalists, despite the sheer lies. And at the same time, except for Russian journalists, ANY other journalists are not allowed into Crimea. So you are the aggressors. When you clap your hands to the fact that the Russian army flooded to the mainland of Ukraine, remember pliz, the Chechens had a desire and had nothing but small arms. We have artillery and aviation and tanks and a HUGE desire to be citizens of Ukraine and not cattle in Little Russia. Greetings from Kiev !!!
              1. Lesnik
                0
                10 March 2014 23: 00
                Well, you know where to go
                Quote: Washing
                Hello from Kiev !!!
              2. +1
                11 March 2014 17: 08
                You, dear, are just talking nonsense. NEVER Ukrainians were cattle in Russia and in the USSR. And Crimea has never been Ukrainian.
              3. tokin1959
                0
                12 March 2014 14: 13
                the point is that you call kindred and fraternal people unrelated and not fraternal, and immediately throw yourself into the arms of the Americans.
                all post-Soviet republics before they even say something to the whole world-they call the Obama Niger and ask-what shall we do?
                and what kind of people are you? you do not need brothers, but an OWNER. without a bamboo stick you can’t do it. in this case, your master is a nigga.
                bent under the niger and boast of freedom))))))))))
              4. tokin1959
                +1
                12 March 2014 14: 32
                - Dear Ukrainians! Welcome to Europe! We will provide you with work, meals and living conditions.
                Convoy, drive the next column.
          4. +5
            7 March 2014 12: 47
            Quote: major071
            The big game begins.

            "Only when everyone is dead will the big game end" - Kipling. in fact, this game has been going on for as long as humanity exists.
          5. 0
            8 March 2014 18: 39
            Quote: major071
            The big game begins. Here either pan or disappeared. There is no third.

            Absolutely right! I hope that Russia will not be lost.
          6. 0
            13 March 2014 05: 51
            It's like that. In fact, the successful conduct of this business is a test of modern Russia for viability.
        2. +24
          7 March 2014 09: 22
          Well, well, there are still morons to treat and heals
          1. +16
            7 March 2014 11: 37
            They must not be treated, but wait until it goes to the toilet and .....
            1. +7
              7 March 2014 13: 00
              Quote: k1995
              They must not be treated, but wait until it goes to the toilet and .....

              Let’s be from Sartir, only a hole for fertilizers, but no more, or imagine a potato that yells fat to heroes, heroes fat
              1. 0
                7 March 2014 23: 07
                good well ... killed !!!
          2. waisson
            +13
            7 March 2014 20: 19
            and to such patriots, I think there’s no place
            1. 0
              7 March 2014 23: 10
              It’s not a patriot, it’s ... iota, it’s a jelly in my head what
            2. Maza
              0
              10 March 2014 15: 29
              Eurogay verbiage, in a word banderlog.
            3. 0
              10 March 2014 23: 05
              He is recruited by the CIA.
        3. +12
          7 March 2014 10: 27
          Quote: INTER
          Ahead of the battle for Donetsk, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov and Odessa. Further cent of Ukraine!

          Now in line, where you can really get the upper hand, Lugansk. There, the people still have power, but there is no pronounced leader. Therefore, they took power like, but no further.
        4. -25
          7 March 2014 11: 23
          Quote: INTER
          Quote: Banshee
          This is just the beginning. And the whole war is yet to come

          Ahead of the battle for Donetsk, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov and Odessa. Further cent of Ukraine!


          I do not want to panic. But the battles will still be for Belgorod, Kursk, Voronezh. I live in the Belgorod region, 60 km to the border. At work, the administration collects family lists for evacuation. It would be better if they called me to the draft board and said when there will be mobilization, the issuance of weapons and uniforms.
          1. +12
            7 March 2014 11: 51
            Quote: tech laughter
            I do not want to panic. But the battles will still be for Belgorod, Kursk, Voronezh. I live in the Belgorod region, 60 km to the border. At work, the administration collects family lists for evacuation.

            My city will be closer to the border, and no one makes any lists. Isn't it strange? By the way, ask your "administration" on what basis it collects lists, on its own initiative or what?
            1. AVIATOR36662
              +9
              7 March 2014 12: 50
              This is a comrade from provocateurs, do not pay attention. He has his own business, on lies and provocations.
              1. 0
                8 March 2014 13: 03
                Quote: AVIATOR36662
                This is a comrade from provocateurs, do not pay attention. He has his own business, on lies and provocations.


                About this poll (lists), I fucking myself. The motivation is something like "There is where you can go for a while if the militants are supposed to climb." None of my colleagues began to transfer data. I don’t want to hear this nonsense myself, so I’ll go somewhere else. For the provocateur you minus.
          2. +9
            7 March 2014 14: 35
            Quote: tech laughter
            I do not want to panic. But the battles will still be for Belgorod, Kursk, Voronezh. I live in Belgorod region, 60km to the border. At work, the administration collects family lists for evacuation. It would be better if they called me to the draft board and said when there will be mobilization, the issuance of weapons and uniforms.

            good at * cast ...
            someone was almost seduced ...
          3. +4
            7 March 2014 15: 03
            What nonsense are you talking about?
          4. +12
            7 March 2014 19: 20
            Quote: tech laughter
            I do not want to panic. But the battles will still be for Belgorod, Kursk, Voronezh.


            Turchinov why are you staring so incompetently?
            1. +4
              8 March 2014 01: 45
              Quote: Karlsonn
              Turchinov why are you staring so incompetently?
              1. +1
                8 March 2014 04: 07
                builder hi

                they are getting fake.
          5. waisson
            0
            7 March 2014 20: 21
            don't panic dear no need to lie to yourself
          6. 0
            11 March 2014 17: 09
            this is just a provocation
        5. +6
          7 March 2014 19: 18
          Something like that.

        6. 0
          7 March 2014 19: 18
          Something like that.

        7. +4
          7 March 2014 21: 16
          ... The head of the Crimean legislative power in a rather large interview launched the motivation of Crimeans and Crimean authorities on the issue of holding a referendum on joining Russia. In principle, Konstatinov quite clearly stated the reasons for the departure of Crimea from Ukraine. The problem of Kiev is that this motivation is simple and understandable to ordinary citizens, and in essence, what Konstantinov talks about can be heard on the streets or in minibuses ...

          Honestly stole from a comrade-Sevastopol, taking a direct, active part in current events.

          zinc on the comrade site - http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2014/03/07/

        8. 0
          7 March 2014 23: 03
          You mentioned the Dnieper in vain.
        9. My opinion
          -2
          10 March 2014 21: 35
          Aha! CENTER OF UKRAINE? Are you talking about the Kiev region, etc.? Serious! you try to conquer Dnipropetrovsk and Donetsk first! There is at least a ratio of 50 to 50. And there is no "Crimean self-defense" with the latest RUSSIAN (equipment and aviation) weapons. And about Kiev, I can say, a Russian-speaking city, but already approx. 10-15 years old voting in unison with Lviv citizens. So you guys are going to free me from me. Nobody in Kiev in not that in the Russian Federation in the vehicle does not want !!!! And they will not greet you WITH FLOWERS !!!
          1. 0
            11 March 2014 17: 14
            If you don’t want to, don’t go, go to Es with gold coins.
      2. +3
        7 March 2014 08: 28
        I support Crimea, but I agree with Banshee. If the Crimea will become part of Russia, it will definitely not be in the near future. Democracy for the West is the adoption of the decision they need at any cost, the overthrow of an objectionable government, the coming to power of "our zats", etc. The United States has already announced that it does not recognize the results of the referendums, the US singers will soon respond.
        In any case, a lot will have to be paid for the accession of Crimea. Bargaining is already in full swing.
        1. +26
          7 March 2014 09: 20
          Quote: Arhj
          The USA has already stated that it does not recognize the results by referenda, that the United States will soon respond.

          The USA did not recognize South Ossetia and Abkhazia, has something changed? not.. No. ? Russia has long made it clear that the United States' opinion on such issues has been laid down on something that cannot be written in the comments according to the rules of the site. And the fact that whine and howl will raise, so that bitch that would whine and howl.
          1. Maza
            +2
            10 March 2014 15: 34
            Let America hold a referendum and accept them.
        2. +8
          7 March 2014 15: 16
          They did not recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia, and people live. And Crimea in general will be part of Russia. But Russia does not recognize.
        3. +4
          7 March 2014 18: 26
          Quote: Arhj
          I support Crimea, but I agree with Banshee. If the Crimea will become part of Russia, it will definitely not be in the near future. Democracy for the West is the adoption of the decision they need at any cost, the overthrow of an objectionable government, the coming to power of "our zats", etc. The United States has already announced that it does not recognize the results of the referendums, the US singers will soon respond.
          In any case, a lot will have to be paid for the accession of Crimea. Bargaining is already in full swing.

          We, there’s nothing to pay, the experienced chess player has already calculated everything and will stand his ground, regardless of the West, the back should not be included in his rules, but of course it won’t go smoothly, it’s clear to everyone
        4. +2
          7 March 2014 19: 57
          Quote: Arhj
          I am a fan of the Crimea, but I agree with Banshee. If Crimea will become part of Russia, then certainly not in the near future.

          The delay in death is similar, but the recognition of the West to me personally is somehow violet.
      3. +6
        7 March 2014 08: 50

        Dmitry Tymchuk

        Friends, a very important message.

        The Information Resistance group learned some details of the events that provoked today's hasty decision of the Crimean parliamentarians to "join" the ARC to Russia.

        In particular, according to our data, on the eve of the Ukrainian General Staff a plan was developed for conducting a military operation in the Crimea.

        The prerequisites for such an operation were given by statements by the Russian leadership that there were no Russian troops in Crimea. That allowed the Ukrainian power structures, without fear to provoke a full-fledged armed conflict with the Russian Federation, to decide on a similar operation.

        By this morning, the completion of certain units and units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for participation in the operation has ended. Earlier, the 79th separate airmobile brigade (Nikolaev) was withdrawn to the isthmus to cover the concentration of a set of forces and assets. Information on the start date of the planned operation is not available.

        According to some reports, the Russian leadership’s identification of preparations for the operation (either analytically or as a result of information leakage) made the Kremlin demand the Crimean parliament to forget about the referendum and urgently make a decision on joining Russia.

        We will see in the near future what decisions the Ukrainian military-political leadership will make in this situation.

        NOTE: this message is guaranteed not to adversely affect the Ukrainian defenses and plans of the Ukrainian military leadership. The information is guaranteed to be known to the Russian GRU GSH and published after agreement with ours.
        1. ran nearby
          +23
          7 March 2014 09: 55
          You might think that our army has something to fight with.
          No, of course there is enough small arms, but with the rest, not everything is so much fun. I doubt that there will be fuel for the tanchegs and the BMD of the landing. Yes, they also have to start up ... The Ukrainian army will not be able to land in the Crimea. And pass the isthmus ???
          It’s mine, it’s a gamble with hopelessness. Guys feel sorry for those who will be thrown into battle, and then forgotten for them.
          1. +5
            7 March 2014 14: 40
            Quote: next to run
            It’s mine, it’s a gamble with hopelessness. Guys feel sorry for those who will be thrown into battle, and then forgotten for them.

            nobody will leave anyone anywhere ...

            maximum stand on the isthmus with formidable faces a couple of days ... and disperse ...
            1. +3
              7 March 2014 15: 23
              It’s also nothing to get there
            2. +2
              7 March 2014 18: 45
              Quote: DanaF1
              Quote: next to run
              It’s mine, it’s a gamble with hopelessness. Guys feel sorry for those who will be thrown into battle, and then forgotten for them.

              nobody will leave anyone anywhere ...

              maximum stand on the isthmus with formidable faces a couple of days ... and disperse ...

              I really want to make a mistake, but these Nazis will start a sabotage war in the Russian Federation and a partisan war in Ukraine, with the goal of completely squeezing out the Russian-speaking population, and the instructors have already arrived
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              2. +1
                8 March 2014 00: 50
                Quote: mark7
                really want to make a mistake, but these Nazis will begin a sabotage war in the Russian Federation

                Well, how do you imagine this?
                will arrange a couple of attacks?
                Or maybe they will come to capture Moscow? Well, we will meet them ... with baseball bats ... every second motorist we have in our car ...

                do not compare the level of passion of Kiev and other Ukrainians and Russians in Russia ... we will not allow such a rush on the streets of our cities ... angry

                Quote: mark7
                partisan on the territory of Ukraine, in order to completely squeeze out the Russian-speaking population, and the instructors have already arrived

                this is not a fortuneteller ...
                1. +2
                  8 March 2014 03: 39
                  Quote: DanaF1
                  really want to make a mistake, but these Nazis will begin a sabotage war in the Russian Federation
                  Well, how do you imagine this?
                  will arrange a couple of attacks?
                  Or maybe they will come to capture Moscow?


                  I want to insert five cents:

                  - Comrade, and what will happen when people like me - Russians begin an armed struggle, using partisan methods, against the so-called state - Ukraine?
                  The day before yesterday in Lvov, they began to paste leaflets on the doors where Russians live, with the inscription "Moscow lives here."
                  I am Russian.
                  If only my family is touched on a national basis - ... in front of everyone weeping, behind everything burns ....

                  Then the ethnic conflict will begin, where neither the right nor the guilty will be.

                  But I only know one thing:
                  - whoever touches my family is the deceased, like his whole family.

                  This is exactly what Western customers want.

                  But I will be fig. Who will touch my family because we are Russians --- I guarantee the massacre.

                  and then we will see what the UNA-UNSO fighter, trained by NATO instructors, in Estonian camps and the Soviet pioneer is worth.
                  1. +1
                    8 March 2014 04: 07
                    What do you say as a resident of Kiev? Really not?
                    http://temydnya.mirtesen.ru/blog/43267993340/%22Zahvachennyiy-krematoriy-Kieva-r
                    abotaet-% 22kruglosutochno% 22: -bende
                    1. +1
                      8 March 2014 04: 17
                      Kstad yes MLRS in Sumy goes to the Crimea.
                      1. 0
                        8 March 2014 05: 23
                        hi kars))
                        where did you disappear to ? sincerely glad to see you again in battle)
                        I hope this time to our side of the barricades! how is Zaporozhye by the way?
                        maybe a couple of months ago, such events seemed impossible taking place somewhere on the brink of reality, I really remember when I argued with Karelia that they say that Crimea will be Russian by any means, getting indignantly from this intellectual and from you too)) at the same time I didn’t believe myself that such a thing to be but damn how things turned out! events are developing rapidly the result is difficult to predict oh damn honestly do not believe in the reality of what is happening but the fact remains that all this is reality)))

                        about the video
                        I saw it right yesterday and by the way there is air cover for all this junk then, as without it, it’s just a bunch of metal that can depict the role of a scarecrow, even if it really works although in Soviet technology I have no doubt it is eternal))
                        I'm sorry for a bunch of mistakes I write from the tablet esho has not mastered)
                      2. +2
                        8 March 2014 05: 43
                        Kars I personally will tear all who jump on you.
                        Threats have come to me - Russian.

                        Kars - I promise who will touch my family - a dead man.
                        cut - I will - all.
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          2. +4
            7 March 2014 14: 54
            I don't like this one.
            Ukrainian military leaders will rotate the army
            The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine intends to conduct a large-scale rotation of military personnel in order to exclude the possibility of a mass transfer of soldiers to the side of the separatists. It is reported by ITAR-TASS, citing a source in the military department.
            According to the interlocutor of the agency, servicemen from the eastern and southern regions are planned to be relocated from duty stations where their relatives live. They will be replaced by soldiers from western Ukraine.
            It is assumed that in this way it will be possible to exclude "cases of a mass transfer of servicemen to the side of the separatist forces in these regions."
            Corresponding consultations with the top military leaders have already been held by the acting president of Ukraine, Alexander Turchinov.
        2. +1
          7 March 2014 11: 52
          Quote: T80UM1
          In particular, according to our data, on the eve of the Ukrainian General Staff a plan was developed for conducting a military operation in the Crimea.

          laughing Thanks for the fun! But ... it would be necessary to create a section "humor" ...
          1. +2
            7 March 2014 20: 52
            Quote: Rakti-Kali
            Quote: T80UM1
            In particular, according to our data, on the eve of the Ukrainian General Staff a plan was developed for conducting a military operation in the Crimea.

            laughing Thanks for the fun! But ... it would be necessary to create a section "humor" ...

            and what is humor then?
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        3. +5
          7 March 2014 13: 00
          T80UM1, Something I did not understand: Who is Tymchuk and what is this "Information Resistance"? Where did this copy of the message of unknown "Group" come from? Strongly smelled of another lie. What? Tymchuk is connected with the General Staff of Ukraine and he was told about the beginning of the military operation? Rave. Of course, it is naive to think that there is no our landing party in Crimea. And it is right. Nowhere to go, you have to go to the end, if you got involved in a fight. Bandera will not stop themselves. By the way, it was shown on TV that foreign mercenaries appeared in the eastern regions - well-equipped and armed soldiers. But for the second day they are not shown. Another "infa" of TV people again?
        4. +9
          7 March 2014 15: 21
          I have acquaintances in Ukraine, no one goes to the military registration and enlistment office, and the young are hiding or leaving. And what an army it is against the real security forces of Crimea. If Yanukovych had allowed Berkut to use weapons at once and there would be no Maidan. And then they set up the guys, and they themselves fled.
          1. +2
            7 March 2014 19: 58
            Quote: woron333444
            I have friends in Ukraine, no one goes to the military enlistment office, and the young growth is hiding or leaving.


            I am writing from Kiev. If your friends are older than 25 - they will not be called, if they have not served - they will not be called, if their military specialty is not military, they will not be called. In addition, there is actually no one to go home or to catch conscripts - the police in Kiev de facto --- NO! The police are sitting in an arrangement, or pretending to be heavily patrolled, but after the shooting of the traffic police post, employees think more about themselves and their families than about conscripts. The military enlistment offices - NO. So it’s enough for them not to take the landline phone and not open the door (let the relatives be instructed to answer everyone - went to work abroad). The situation in other cities is the same; in villages, of course, it is a different matter.
            So there were no commands to watch. soldier

            Regarding the state of the Ukrainian army, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine on its website officially appealed to the citizens of Ukraine for help in the form of a transfer of financial resources, for the purchase of medicines and for material and technical support.

            he took zinc from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine from the comrade - http://www.mil.gov.ua/index.php?lang=ua&part=news&sub=read&id=32829

            Do not forget how it always ends here. wink
            1. +3
              8 March 2014 00: 41
              Quote: Karlsonn
              Regarding the state of the Ukrainian army, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine on its website officially appealed to the citizens of Ukraine for help in the form of a transfer of financial resources, for the purchase of medicines and for material and technical support.


              Greetings, Alex. hi

              The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine on this subject is better to turn to their oligarchs through the Rada.
              Cynicism is utter.
              1. +3
                8 March 2014 04: 10
                When the army is a prostitute, there’s nothing to expect from it.
          2. My opinion
            -2
            10 March 2014 22: 09
            Oh well .... but I live in the capital of Ukraine and see with my own eyes what is happening .... you say Nobody is going to the draft board? and the young go on the run? this is FU ..- LO and you are FUFL ....- NICK. You deliberately lie and introduce your compatriots into deception!
            1. 0
              10 March 2014 22: 38
              Quote: Washing
              You deliberately lie and introduce your compatriots into deception!

              Burst?
              And why are we tearing something on the British flag? Or yusovsky?
              After all, your statements will remain on the server and after a while everything will become absolutely clear.
              So far, only one thing is clear _ Maidan and Fascism are synonyms now.
      4. +12
        7 March 2014 09: 14
        Quote: Banshee
        Do you really think that the West and those in Kiev will leave it just like that?

        It is well known that they will not leave, but only this is their problem.
        Quote: Banshee

        There will be many more. And the announcement of the referendum illegitimate, and the "press" in the media, and provocations.

        We are not the first time ..
        Quote: Banshee
        "We will definitely drink to this with you. But then. When it's over."

        The kid said the kid will do .. wink laughing
      5. +2
        7 March 2014 10: 15
        Quote: Banshee
        It's only the beginning. And the whole war is yet to come. Do you really think that the West and those in Kiev will leave it just like that?

        Here you are right, with the annexation of Crimea, a bright future does not come, the confrontation with the West will escalate, right up to the hot phase.
        1. +2
          7 March 2014 21: 28
          let’s give a shit about this west, while they depend on us, and not we on it. The main buyers of Western goods Russia, they receive energy from Russia.
      6. bigELDAK
        +1
        7 March 2014 11: 49
        Of course, everything is still ahead: provocations, terrorist attacks, etc. already need to build mines. its own security "pseudoukraina" is not so easy to spill. HUMANOUS will smolder for a long time. IF THERE WOULD NOT BE A WAR !!!.
      7. +5
        7 March 2014 12: 45
        The main thing is to create a precedent for the unification of Russian territories in the new history of Russia, and then the reunification process will go easier. And then let the Baltic states tremble. Perhaps there our brothers will decide to create their autonomy, and then join us. That will be Hochma.
        I vote for unification, for a strong Russia!
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      9. +11
        7 March 2014 13: 29
        Today I was banned for two days at the Kiev forum for a post in support of the image of Moscow.
        1. +5
          7 March 2014 15: 01
          Quote: Vadim2013
          Today I was banned for two days at the Kiev forum for a post in support of the image of Moscow.

          Pop swearing Mock.l !! (or whatever it is spelled correctly) laughing laughing
          For the sake of laughter, one moderator should be made here from the Maidan, to look at least with one eye.
        2. +10
          7 March 2014 18: 36
          Vadim2013

          Welcome hi in our well-organized ranks - I myself’ve been banned vitally on several Ukrainian sites, since I categorically do not accept fascism, Nazism and other diseases.
          1. +2
            7 March 2014 20: 34
            If someone has not seen, then here is an interesting video interview of doctors of the Maidan.

            1. 0
              8 March 2014 23: 12
              Field doctors of the Maidan - I respect.
              This video must be watched and carefully listened to by the maydanut and parents of the victims. Thanks to the doctors for their civil and professional courage.
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          2. +2
            7 March 2014 22: 11
            Bushmen offended in vain! They are normal, right guys. And such a blizzard is not driven.
            I would take a picture with monkeys! Ahhh! then the ecologists will be offended. Here maydauny survived! Who can’t compare with them - everyone will be offended.
            1. 0
              8 March 2014 04: 13
              Quote: Aljavad
              Bushmen offended in vain! They are normal, right guys.


              , pigs, dogs are better than many animals.
              But practice shows that the title of a person must be earned.
      10. +2
        7 March 2014 14: 40
        The main thing is to be united and hold on to each other.
      11. +2
        7 March 2014 14: 43
        "After the decision of the Supreme Council of Crimea to join Russia, some Russians began to joke that Moscow's next step would be the return of Alaska, sold to the United States almost 150 years ago.
        According to The Wall Street Journal, many Russians feel a special connection with Ukraine, the majority of whose population speaks Russian and professes Christianity. The publication also recalls that Ukraine was the founder of the first East Slavic state - Kievan Rus.
        “If Crimea becomes part of Russia, Putin will become even more popular (among Russians). They are waiting for actions that will underline the status of Russia as a great power, ”said Evgeny Gontmakher, deputy head of the Institute of World Economy and International Relations.
        In a survey conducted before the conflict in autonomy, more than half of Russians said they were hoping for Crimea to join Russia.
        According to the publication, the possible accession of Crimea is regarded by the leadership of Russia as a way to restore glory lost in the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union.
        After the decision of the Supreme Council of Crimea, which on Thursday announced its intention of autonomy to join Russia, some Russians joked that the next step of President Vladimir Putin would be the return of Alaska, sold by the Russian Empire to the United States in 1867 "
        http://politobzor.net/show-14707-churkin-moskva-razryvaet-diplomaticheskie-otnos
        heniya-s-kievom.html

        . tremble ... "there is some truth in every joke" !!!
        1. Rblipetsk
          +1
          7 March 2014 16: 16
          Quote: 222222
          tremble ... "there is some truth in every joke" !!!

          well no. in this joke - only a fraction ... jokes.
      12. +3
        7 March 2014 15: 06
        No one will oppose Russia, they are afraid. Georgia was washed, scared, scared and shut up
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      14. 0
        7 March 2014 16: 22
        Don't screw up the booze. This is the beginning of the "end" of the loan interest ... And Ukraine is just a chip on the table in world roulette. Russians don't abandon their own! And even that ... laughing Paradoxes, damn it!
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/194/otbk145.jpg
      15. +1
        7 March 2014 19: 38
        Quote: Banshee
        So let me quote Putin: "We will definitely drink to this with you. But then. When everything is over."

        Russia simply has no other way than to help Crimea. P & ndos all organized this cartoon to destroy the Slavs.
      16. 0
        8 March 2014 16: 49
        No, the West and Kiev will not leave it like that. They will hiss in impotent rage ...
    2. Tumbleweed
      +10
      7 March 2014 08: 32
      Thanks to Alexey Volodin for letting the Russians vote for Crimea joining Russia wassat
      It seems a trifle (voting in the poll), but nice (joined the Great Event) drinks
    3. Reasonable, 2,3
      +9
      7 March 2014 08: 35
      Do not drive horses. Not the fact that they have rubbish prepared for our soul. This CIA is pretty serious crap. Do not forget one thing. This is our land. I will not give up ......
    4. Reasonable, 2,3
      -14
      7 March 2014 08: 57
      Or maybe it's time to come. Time to win, not retreat. The spirit of war, I love, missed you without death. Not far. It is necessary, need. Only for Russia.
      1. +5
        7 March 2014 12: 02
        Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
        . The spirit of war, I adore, missed you without death. Far from it. Need, need. Only for Russia

        Exactly Reasonable ?????
        1. +1
          7 March 2014 13: 47
          Ouahahahahakh killed nafig laughing
        2. Reasonable, 2,3
          0
          8 March 2014 06: 07
          Forest. Uncle.
        3. Reasonable, 2,3
          0
          10 March 2014 11: 26
          You take a look at your nickname. Teach me will. Reason have.
    5. +37
      7 March 2014 09: 05
      Not a bit of a topic, but I think they will understand me. ALL is good, but how can we support our country now? AROUND these ghouls with sanctions threaten us with financial collapse, and this, as I understand it, is very bad, like China promised to help by demanding debt repayment from Americans, but the campaign will wait until it awaits. In short, I propose to merge the finances of the Americans themselves. In the morning, he spat and pulling the trigger on a new car, he pulled out $ 10 of shitty fellow in a tight bang, and, according to his wife's understanding gaze, dragged him to Sberbank where he exchanged them for his own rubles. The cashier smiled too. And I, in high spirits, ran to buy flowers for my beloved wife. It has been 000 hours since then and there is not a drop of frustration. Well, maybe so I can help my country.
      1. +8
        7 March 2014 12: 54
        Not a bit of a topic, but I think they will understand me. ALL is good, but how can we support our country now? AROUND these ghouls with sanctions threaten us with financial collapse, and this, as I understand it, is very bad, like China promised to help by demanding debt repayment from Americans, but the campaign will wait until it awaits. In short, I propose to merge the finances of the Americans themselves. In the morning, he spat and pulling the trigger on a new car, he pulled out $ 10 of shitty fellow in a tight bang, and, according to his wife's understanding gaze, dragged him to Sberbank where he exchanged them for his own rubles. The cashier smiled too. And I, in high spirits, ran to buy flowers for my beloved wife. It has been 000 hours since then and there is not a drop of frustration. Well, maybe so I can help my country.

        Help yourself! wassat But seriously, my personal opinion is that Putin needs US sanctions. If I am right and the 3,14ndos are lousy and impose sanctions, then very soon we will see why. soldier
        1. Maza
          0
          10 March 2014 15: 41
          It was not for nothing that the Central Bank merged the Baku banks; I have already got rid of them.
      2. +3
        7 March 2014 14: 47
        Thank you, well done!
      3. +3
        7 March 2014 15: 37
        well done drinks I respect
      4. +3
        7 March 2014 21: 37
        Quote: PQ137
        ... In the morning, he spat and pulling the trigger on a new car, he pulled out $ 10 of the shitty fellow in a tough garment and, according to his wife's understanding gaze, dragged him to the Sberbank where he exchanged them for his own rubles. ...

        Sleep tight, I have been explaining to suppliers for a long time that I do not need to declare prices in foreign currency, it fluctuates against the ruble.
    6. +3
      7 March 2014 12: 54
      How I liked the articles of Mr. Volodin, yesterday and the day before, how much humor and sarcasm, took off his hat, and today just an analyst. Alexei, more humor and the enemy trembles, they have nothing to answer
      If a referendum is held, it would be interesting to reflect on how the votes can be distributed. If we take into account that the ethnic composition of Crimea is similar to a layer cake, where there is a place for Russians, Ukrainians, Crimean Tatars, Jews, and representatives of other nationalities, then a unified opinion is hardly to be expected.

      nonsense, and if you argue on the part of the right sector or trident. You have your own opinion and they do not need to give even an iota of doubt, what the hell, compare it with the idiots.
      Interim President Turchinov fired the interim Prime Minister of Crimea. In response, the interim prime minister of Crimea temporarily reassigned the police, the military, the Ministry of Emergencies, the fleet, the tax and border guards.
      Peaceful Crimean self-defense politely disarms the Ukrainian armed forces.
    7. +1
      8 March 2014 05: 06
      Crimea should belong to Ukraine. And Ukraine should belong to Russia. Well, maybe with the exception of the part that was liberated in 1939, let them again lie down under Poland if they so want to go to Geyropa.
    8. 0
      10 March 2014 13: 42
      plus another referendum, the size of the fifth column will be known, accurate to the vote!
  2. -32
    7 March 2014 08: 04
    It seems that Crimea as a separate state would be preferable in the light of the geopolitical situation.
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      1. +8
        7 March 2014 08: 32
        A hemorrhoid is already in the face of incomprehensible Ukraine. Sorry for pessimism, but lately it seems to me that everything will begin to improve only when everything falls apart completely and the regions of Ukraine become de facto independent states. At least we will understand with whom to negotiate. And everything seems to be going to that.
      2. +6
        7 March 2014 08: 38
        Quote: TIT
        it would be preferable to maintain a healthy (not sick) Ukrainian state

        Oh, come on ... And then sit on needles and wait for the result of each election? Our candidate passed or paid by the West? Haha. stop
    2. +16
      7 March 2014 08: 35
      If Crimea enters Russia worse than Russia from the screams and confrontation of the United States and the West will not. Sanctions are already imposed anyway, even without any investigations and establishing the reality of the occupation of Crimea by Russia. It is no longer interesting to anyone whether we violated something or not - we have already decided for ourselves that the Russian bear is advancing again.
      Well, let. The abandonment of Crimea as part of Ukraine is a loss and recognition of us as rags and inferior people.
      All the same, Ukraine will be torn apart by Bulgaria and Poland with Romania - the troops have already been driven to the border.
    3. Tumbleweed
      +6
      7 March 2014 08: 49
      Quote: Rash
      It seems that Crimea as a separate state would be preferable in the light of the geopolitical situation.

      It was planned as well as the March referendum of 30, but apparently the events rolled in such an avalanche that they postponed the date and changed the wording ... We (ordinary people) do not know much and maybe this is for the better winked
      1. +3
        7 March 2014 09: 21
        Quote: rolling the field
        Quote: Rash
        It seems that Crimea as a separate state would be preferable in the light of the geopolitical situation.

        It was planned as well as the March referendum of 30, but apparently the events rolled in such an avalanche that they postponed the date and changed the wording ... We (ordinary people) do not know much and maybe this is for the better winked

        I won’t be surprised if the referral is held on March 9 request
  3. +12
    7 March 2014 08: 05
    There is a Russian spirit, there it smells of Rus!
  4. +23
    7 March 2014 08: 06
    I bow to the option of a new region forming part of Russia. In the event that Crimea remains a part of Ukraine there will be a massacre ... Moreover, a serious massacre. And the whole confederation will exist exactly until the presidential election
    1. +9
      7 March 2014 08: 16
      I support the opinion that it’s definitely not worth leaving Crimea to the brown vysers.
      1. +10
        7 March 2014 08: 50
        To surrender yours means to show weakness. A weak Russia is what the West is seeking, and the weak, as you know, are beaten. Give Crimea to the nationalists, Russia should not.
        1. +1
          7 March 2014 19: 01
          Quote: 53-Sciborskiy
          To surrender yours means to show weakness. A weak Russia is what the West is seeking, and the weak, as you know, are beaten. Give Crimea to the nationalists, Russia should not.

          Well done, well said +
    2. +2
      7 March 2014 08: 28
      Quote: domokl
      .And the whole confederation will exist exactly until the presidential election

      That's why the referendum was postponed from 30 to 16 on March. From 17 the territory (let's hope Russian) and after ... even the hypothetical entry of Ukraine into NATO, although before May 25 this is not possible, the presence of ANY NUMBER of the RF Armed Forces in Crimea will be justified. hi
      1. +1
        7 March 2014 08: 58
        There is an opinion that the transfer of the referendum and the forcing of events is connected with the death of Yanukovych. And his death, as Putin said, is one of the options for changing the president in Ukraine, that is, his death will give legitimacy to the Kiev
    3. 0
      8 March 2014 03: 18
      Crimeans shouting "Hurray for Russia!" met the Cossacks from the Kuban in Simferopol. There was a very elated mood. Many rushed to embrace them. Take pictures with them. Therefore, we believe that Russia will not back down. And we firmly know this!
  5. +7
    7 March 2014 08: 06
    Now is the time to present debt to debtors.
  6. +23
    7 March 2014 08: 06
    Sevastopol will remain Russian!
  7. +18
    7 March 2014 08: 09
    We must wait for serious provocations from banderlogs and be prepared for them.
  8. both s69
    +14
    7 March 2014 08: 11
    Crimea is wonderful. And the south and east of Ukraine? Are we going to continue to continue, essentially indifferently, to watch how the putschists will neutralize the leaders of anti-Maidan on the sly, bleeding the already not very united Russian people? We are waiting for NATO at Lugansk? Or Kharkov? what
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 08: 53
      God knows. Everything depends on GDP.
    2. +2
      7 March 2014 09: 31
      Quote: both-with 69
      Crimea is wonderful. And the south and east of Ukraine? Are we going to continue to continue, essentially indifferently, to watch how the putschists will neutralize the leaders of anti-Maidan on the sly, bleeding the already not very united Russian people? We are waiting for NATO at Lugansk? Or Kharkov? what

      The people of the east and south must show their will, not upset halfway, continue to put pressure on the kyev’s devotees. Do not allow the Gauleiters to be placed. Russia can intervene if it spills bloodbut save the Lord from it.
    3. ImpKonstantin
      +6
      7 March 2014 11: 16
      The rescue of a drowning person is, first of all, the work of the drowning person. There is a strong protest movement in Crimea, there is someone to rely on for the Russian side, but in the East ... alas, when a couple of thousand people from all over the region come to a rally against Kiev's arbitrariness, this is clearly not enough to start widespread support. The people, in fact, have lived for more than 20 years according to the principle “my house is on the edge, I don’t know anything”, so it remains to wait for the coup leaders to make more mistakes, awakening the “sleeping” East.
  9. 0
    7 March 2014 08: 11
    It would be nice to ask us, and in the same tight time frame, I do not doubt the answer, but this gives our diplomats the opportunity to shrug their shoulders with the words: "We are for integrity, but this is how the people decided, we cannot do anything ..." , let's wait for the answer of the Crimeans.
  10. +12
    7 March 2014 08: 11
    The fact that Russia will not leave Crimea is beyond doubt, the masks are reset and in the West everyone understood laughing , but still the remaining regions of the East of Ukraine and if Crimea AUTONOMY, then the rest of the territory for a start should become autonomous territories, and then start CRIMEAN CAMPAIGN 2013!Although I want it differently! That EVERYONE WISHES WERE IN RUSSIA! And there is NO SPEAK FOR SEVASTOPOL! - IT IS OUR HE IS RUSSIAN! hi
    1. +6
      7 March 2014 09: 03
      Sevastopol and so never entered the Republic of Crimea. And Ukraine was not transferred, but was an independent administrative and economic center within the RSFSR. The secretary of the regional committee splashed through, created, on, problems for the fleet for decades. And our cunning type brothers did not notice.

      So the Anschluss of Sevastopol is doubly legal.

      Shl Anschluss, not what you thought, but simply "reunion".
      1. +1
        7 March 2014 09: 13
        Quote: mak210
        Shl Anschluss, not what you thought, but simply "reunion".

        Oh ... mother of that rabbit ... and I didn’t have time to think ... belay SEVASTOPOL WILL BE OUR.Although with BIG creak. hi
  11. KOH
    +7
    7 March 2014 08: 11
    If this hour the Crimeans and Russia start backing away, they and we will be killed, someone immediately and someone later ...
  12. +14
    7 March 2014 08: 16

    straight prophecy))
    meeting happy)
    1. sazhka4
      +2
      7 March 2014 09: 55
      One to one, or exactly the same. In principle, there is no difference .. + 100500
    2. Novik
      +15
      7 March 2014 10: 30


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdvo-2u_Yqs
      smile
      ***
      Goblin News 11: brown coup

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfzMnP3ilcI
      good
      Natalia Vitrenko extinguish the fire in the European World War III

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FE9vlOLjDrY#t=227&hd=1
      good
      1. +4
        7 March 2014 16: 13
        Thank you, I liked it very much, especially the "brown coup" good
  13. +15
    7 March 2014 08: 19
    In general, ON ALL FORMER REPUBLICMS NEEDED TO ENTER THAT THE ONLY UNION AND UNION AS EARLY, TOGETHER WE ARE POWER !!!!!
    1. Ev58
      +7
      7 March 2014 09: 18
      Our ancestors knew that strength is in unity, saying: "One in the field is not a warrior." Each state (absolutely each) is not homogeneous in its composition and contains internal contradictions (social, racial, religious, etc.), which, with skillful use, turn into powerful levers of destabilization and division of society. The problem is aggravated by the fact that at all times of the centuries-old history of mankind, there have always been people who yearn for power over other people at any cost. It is problematic to realize this desire alone, which led to the merger of such groups of people (instrument) with financial oligarchs who dictated the implementation of certain social, economic, legal and political decisions. In fact, all revolutions follow the same or identical scenario. I believe (not only in the current situation) that our special services could actively use their capabilities to discredit, in the face of the world community and their own people, the unsightly and two-faced policy of key NATO figures, relying on irrefutable facts that should be made public. It should not be forgotten (including the United States and Great Britain) that their countries contain no less a tangle of contradictions than any other country and this potential charge can be set in motion. I am not a supporter of bloodshed for the sake of achieving money, power and satisfying political ambitions, but I really imagine possible scenarios for the development of events under the influence of the manipulation of the previously described levers.
  14. AV 587
    +7
    7 March 2014 08: 20
    Crimea, of course, must be annexed to the Russian Federation so that there is no more crap with Sevastopol, and indeed with the Black Sea Fleet. But the rest I am for a single friendly Russian Federation Ukraine.
    1. +4
      7 March 2014 09: 39
      Quote: AV-587
      But for the rest I for a single friendly Russian Federation Ukraine.

      Western "Ukraine" is a utopia ... for now. It is necessary to eradicate in the minds of the people of Ukraine hatred to Russia. Unfortunately several generations are nurtured in this manure!
    2. +8
      7 March 2014 10: 24
      Quote: AV-587
      Crimea, of course, must be annexed to the Russian Federation so that there is no more crap with Sevastopol, and indeed with the Black Sea Fleet. But the rest I am for a single friendly Russian Federation Ukraine.

      All Ukraine needs to be joined to Russia, and not just Crimea.
  15. +7
    7 March 2014 08: 23
    I do not think that the Crimean authorities, when they decided on the referendum and its issues, did not consult with Moscow.
    Moscow made a decision. Crimea will be ours.
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 09: 41
      Quote: Boris55
      I do not think that the Crimean authorities, when they decided on the referendum and its issues, did not consult with Moscow.
      Moscow made a decision. Crimea will be ours.

      This is undeniable !!!
  16. +5
    7 March 2014 08: 26
    Crimea is abundantly watered with Russian blood. You can’t give it to the Nazis for torture. I think Putin is not one of the people who are willing to exchange the honor of Russia for money
  17. 0
    7 March 2014 08: 26
    Yesterday, too, talked for the Crimea, here is my correspondence in Odnoklassniki:
    Irina A. answered Alexey
    22:38
    hi Aleksey,
    Are you for the entry of Crimea into the Russian Federation or do you care?

    Alexey Karpov
    22:41
    I care. I am for! Only there are some thoughts on this subject. The main one - any attempts by Russia today are the essence of imperialism. Well, there is no ideological base beneath them. And the most frightening thing is that even tactical successes cannot be secured strategically. This requires a radical change in ideology and domestic politics. Press oligarchs required. Will Pu do this? I think no. For he is appointed by the oligarchs.

    Eugene N
    22:48
    I agree ... and I need to feed the Crimea ... again, the burden on the budget ... although I am human for Crimea ...

    22:50
    And Putin somehow disavowed his words about the troops, he could have gone all the way, Zahid is weak and the fucker will not seriously rock the boat ...
    ----------------------
    These are our opinions ...
    1. +9
      7 March 2014 08: 31
      Quote: Altona
      Here are our opinions

      These are such friends in your classmates!
      1. -1
        7 March 2014 08: 37
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        These are such friends in your classmates!

        ---------------------
        This is a discussion in my group ... Or rather, I threw off the administration, it became just a moderator ... Irina A-citizen of Germany ... Alexey Karpov from Kurgan, works at the factory where BMPs do ...
        1. +10
          7 March 2014 09: 03
          Quote: Altona
          This is a discussion in my group.

          It’s good that I’m not in your group, there I would not be shy about mats. And Irina from Germany and Aleksey Karpov from Kurgan would hear everything that I think of them in plain text.
        2. +4
          7 March 2014 13: 20
          Quote: Altona
          Alexey Karpov- from Kurgan

          the scoreboard would be for him for Russia ... this is how you should not love your country, so that it would be distorted like that.
      2. +6
        7 March 2014 10: 05
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        These are such friends in your classmates!
        You are only partly right. I also have a social. networks comes to abuse with classmates living in Ukraine. And they were born and formed in the USSR. These are the results of effective propaganda, brainwashing. Although, in fairness, it must be said that the fewer brains, the easier it is to wash them.
    2. +2
      7 March 2014 10: 31
      Quote: Altona
      These are our opinions ...

      There are many opinions, but in any case for the Crimea.
  18. +13
    7 March 2014 08: 32
    Thanks to the enemies of Russia for the Return of Crimea! After all, if it were not for the revolution (Maidan), how much more would have to wait for reunification!
  19. ed65b
    +6
    7 March 2014 08: 33
    Yes. The opinion of Oksana Dmitrieva is especially correct. The situation has changed with the speed of an avalanche. The risks are enormous and sometimes it becomes scary (honestly), but no matter how you play a point, you need to do something we always secretly sought and dreamed of, taking the pearl of Russia - Crimea back. But in return we will receive deadly enemies. Well, we'll see.
    1. +7
      7 March 2014 08: 44
      Are they friends to us?
      Oksana Dmitrieva talks about risks, but there is still a risk to betray the interests of the motherland.
      Not we started this maidan, we regularly according to 100mln. rent paid to Ukraine for the base in Sevastopol.
      In short, if there is a fight, you need to fight, we will count the money after the victory.
      1. ed65b
        +1
        7 March 2014 09: 41
        Quote: sawmill
        Are they friends to us?

        Someone yes, someone no. But given the total anti-Russian propaganda of the Ukrainian media and TV, we will get square pshes at the output.
    2. +4
      7 March 2014 10: 52
      If there were enemies, then they will remain enemies. You must not make concessions to enemies. They are arrogant from this. Most importantly, our friends will not understand us if we leave the inhabitants of Crimea and Eastern Ukraine in trouble.
  20. +3
    7 March 2014 08: 41
    Yes, everything is back to square one !!) Wonderful !! if you reckon with the opinion of the people, for 80%, and this is more than most!
  21. +9
    7 March 2014 08: 44
    Russia will now have very difficult relations with Ukraine. Ukrainians will never forgive the loss of Crimea. No matter how the relationship develops, Ukraine will always demand: "Return Crimea!" How many years have the Japanese been pouting for Russia for the Kuriles? But Ukraine's constant drift to the West simply left no choice. Crimea must be taken. Now or never, otherwise Sevastopol will become American. No choice.
    1. dik-fort
      +5
      7 March 2014 10: 31
      In any situation, Ukraine will be a hostile state to us, it is beneficial to the West, and with the advent of Bandera to power, an armed conflict is more than likely in the future, perhaps in the coming days, if they decide to attack the Crimea. In addition, Bandera calls for the creation of nuclear weapons. Whatever Russia undertakes, there is no particular choice, it is impossible to retreat.
    2. +7
      7 March 2014 10: 32
      Quote: Klim Podkova
      Relations with Ukraine in Russia will now be very complicated. Ukrainians will never forgive the losses of Crimea.

      Well, this is not the first time in history, and before, countries lost their territories, and were friends afterwards.
      Quote: Klim Podkova
      How old are the Japanese in Russia for the Kuril Islands pouting?

      Japan is an occupied country, the Americans need the disputed islands so that American submarine hunters can enter the Sea of ​​Okhotsk.
      The Sea of ​​Okhotsk is Russia's nuclear bastion.
    3. +1
      7 March 2014 16: 29
      Still, the main contradiction in religion. There is no unity in Ukraine between the Zapadentsev and the Southeast .. and they do not like each other. even their languages ​​are different ... either the Ukrainian Federation, or the disintegration into three states will happen anyway ...
  22. +7
    7 March 2014 08: 46
    Quote: ed65b
    But in return we get deadly enemies

    Yes, and they do not need to receive. Enemies have always been, are and will be while Russia is alive. We all like a bone in the throat. It’s time to show the West that Russia can’t be intimidated or bought by cookies.
    1. ed65b
      +1
      7 March 2014 09: 46
      Quote: KLIM
      Yes, and they do not need to receive. Enemies have always been, are and will be while Russia is alive. We all like a bone in the throat. It’s time to show the West that Russia can’t be intimidated or bought by cookies.

      Serg I'm not talking about "Mir" but about Ukraine. It is undesirable to get rabid Russophobes in the amount of 50 million with common borders. And the borders will have to be equipped with real ones, in accordance with all the rules with the PCB, etc.
  23. +5
    7 March 2014 08: 48
    There should be only one option, Crimea is Russia, this is for the sake of the whole Russian world, because Ukraine of Russia and Crimea will be very bad.
  24. +3
    7 March 2014 08: 57
    Quote: Klim Podkova
    Russia will now have very difficult relations with Ukraine. Ukrainians will never forgive the loss of Crimea. No matter how the relationship develops, Ukraine will always demand: "Return Crimea!" How many years have the Japanese been pouting for Russia for the Kuriles? But Ukraine's constant drift to the West simply left no choice. Crimea must be taken. Now or never, otherwise Sevastopol will become American. No choice.

    I agree 100%, Crimea and the east of Ukraine must be taken away, otherwise the Americans in the West are drawing in military forces
  25. +2
    7 March 2014 08: 58
    It's too early to fill the glasses, although the hand is stretching. I would like to see Crimea as part of Russia. But many "buts" have not yet been resolved. Let's take a look.
  26. buser
    +1
    7 March 2014 09: 01
    The main thing for Crimeans is to hold a referendum. What results the referendum will give is unknown. But the fact that Crimea will no longer submit to Kiev is for sure.
  27. Yaromir
    +5
    7 March 2014 09: 12
    Here the discussions are superfluous, the historical truth is on the side of the Crimeans - you would repeatedly and voluntarily surrender your country or a separate region under the fascist boot. Well done Crimeans - Glory to the President of Russia !!!!
  28. kuznesov48
    +5
    7 March 2014 09: 15
    Stop living with an eye on the US and Europe. The people of Sevastopol and Crimea want to be with Russia, which means that it will be so. And there, southeastern Ukraine will choose its path.
  29. +6
    7 March 2014 09: 16
    Take back home - Crimea is necessary!
    Given what has already been done and what is happening now, Russia should not have a way back! And this is not a matter of reunification, but a matter of political status in the world of Russia itself!
    What caused the threats of the EU and the US to impose sanctions, so that lately it was possible to put pressure on Russia. And Russia, calling itself a great country, constantly backtracked, - sought consensus, agreed, merged .... And for what ?! In order not to offend the Americans? More precisely, their president and several idiots from the Foreign Ministry and Congress!
    But this is not a concession, but a deal!
    It is time to declare ourselves as a strong state, and not only raising the historical information, what we were, namely, today's actions, to show what we are!
    Something the EU is not trying to impose sanctions against the United States!
    And now it depends on the leadership of Russia - Russia will become a rag for the feet of the EU and the USA or will become a hammer for the heads of all evil spirits!
  30. +2
    7 March 2014 09: 19
    initially I thought that Crimeans would want sovereignty, but judging by the news, I won’t be surprised at all that we will have a new federation subject
  31. +1
    7 March 2014 09: 22
    Quote: INTER
    Quote: Banshee
    This is just the beginning. And the whole war is yet to come

    Ahead of the battle for Donetsk, Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov and Odessa. Further cent of Ukraine!

    There was once a simple computer toy - "Sea Battle".
    And each "party" there is a "battle" for some of the seaside cities.
    God forbid, "it will come true" ...

    By the way, it is interesting: if Crimea (hypothetically) becomes part of the Russian Federation, will Ukraine pay for military units stationed there?
    1. +2
      7 March 2014 16: 32
      The withdrawal of personnel under a military orchestra with the banners of units without weapons from the territory of Russia. - the most correct option. People swore an oath to their country.
  32. 0
    7 March 2014 09: 23
    Stop, stop, stop, I always thought that it was imperative to return the lost territories, but it's not worth driving the horses like that, it really looks like gnawing off the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia, we know that we take our own, but how it will look even so but how will it be presented by the Western media? After all, in the West, everyone does not care that some kind of referendum, everyone does not care about the Law, can you imagine what kind of howl the liberoids and morons of all stripes will raise? territory of the newborn "free" Ukraine, which has just thrown off the "yoke of autocracy and tyranny." For China, this is also a painful question. But on the other hand, we probably don’t know much, what if at a referendum they will speak out for "broad autonomy" within Ukraine? I think that at the moment it is broad autonomy that will be the way out of this situation, it is clear that the Kiev Nazis will go out of their way to discredit the authorities of Crimea and Russia as separatists on the one hand and the Evil Empire on the other goy. But at least we can hide behind a referendum. I repeat, there will be a problem in the case of accession and in the case of broad autonomy, but in the second case, Russia will seem to be a little "above the conflict" and we will be able to calmly observe and record any violations of autonomy by the Nazis in if necessary, give them a stick "in the teeth" and send "carts" to the UN (which, of course, do not give a damn about them, but the formalities will be respected). It can be shorter for a long time "oil on wood" to spread, citing arguments both in one and the other direction, but I am personally for autonomy within Ukraine.
    1. +3
      7 March 2014 13: 26
      Quote: Standard Oil
      It can be shorter for a long time "oil on wood" to spread, citing arguments both in one direction and in the other, but I personally support autonomy within Ukraine.

      There is a lot of reason in your comment. However, broad autonomy will not give a guarantee to the Russians from the repressions of the Bandera, repressions, both explicit and covert. Any widest autonomy will not stop this criminal gang. In addition, Russia will have to invest money in this autonomy and not only money. Here are 3 billion “greens” who have gone into the “pipe” and where are they? Ask the Bandera bandits? It's not even funny. So, if you protect and feed - then your own.
    2. +2
      7 March 2014 14: 05
      Oil on wood? Probably "mysya", which is translated as thought, but correctly squirrel.
      Three billion dollars that Russia paid to Ukraine should be RETURNED, because they were given under the guarantee of the Yanukovych government. Can not return? Let him give Crimea!
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    4. 0
      7 March 2014 22: 43
      Standardoil! You remind me of the kind person that a dog’s tail cuts off gradually, a little bit, not very much.
      All possible reactions of the West and Kiev are possible in any of the options. So why trifle? The problem is long overdue, in fact, from the Khrushchev’s transfer of the Crimea, the time to solve the problem is not the worst, to say the least. So why pull for details? Wait until the crisis in Kiev is over? Or is the generation still growing under the fire of anti-Russian propaganda? Putin is doing everything right! And the wind sails him!
      And we cannot stay "above the conflict" - there are OUR BROTHERS! They fight to us! Not accepting them is to lose the birthright (honor, trust, the right to decide other people's destinies, and your own in the end)
  33. -8
    7 March 2014 09: 24
    I'd love to see Crimea as one of the constituent entities of the Russian Federation, but alas, if this happens, it will not be soon
  34. +7
    7 March 2014 09: 25
    Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
    Do not drive horses. Not a fact, they have rubbish, prepared for our soul. This CIA is pretty serious crap.

    And they don't even need to turn to the CIA for help ... They will block the foreign accounts of our "ELITE" and it will sing differently. Serbia was given. Only then it will be difficult for Russia to cleanse itself of this shame. Once they gave the Crimea hope for reunification with Russia, we must defend it! Concessions to the West on this issue are betrayal.
    1. +5
      7 March 2014 09: 38
      Serbian volunteers, with Serbian flags, stand and help Crimeans at Crimean Roadblocks.
      1. +1
        7 March 2014 13: 23
        Quote: Oleg Sobol
        Serbian volunteers with Serbian flags stand and help Crimeans at Crimean Roadblocks

        where did you get it? Is there a video video?
        1. +1
          7 March 2014 22: 52
          The media gave interviews to the Serbs - they say that they came here, to return the debt of honor to the Russians, for all our boys who helped them in the 90s.
      2. 0
        7 March 2014 23: 17
        There are five Serbian chetniks so far .... WHILE (((
    2. ed65b
      +5
      7 March 2014 10: 13
      Quote: Svist
      Quote: Reasonable, 2,3
      Do not drive horses. Not a fact, they have rubbish, prepared for our soul. This CIA is pretty serious crap.

      And they don't even need to turn to the CIA for help ... They will block the foreign accounts of our "ELITE" and it will sing differently. Serbia was given. Only then it will be difficult for Russia to cleanse itself of this shame. Once they gave the Crimea hope for reunification with Russia, we must defend it! Concessions to the West on this issue are betrayal.

      Do not sing. GDP has calculated everything. and whoever sings will leave for London without assets. and this is similar to the oligarchs of death. GDP has made a choice in favor of the state and no one will interfere with it. Neither blocking accounts nor canceling visas. The elite rallied around Putin.
    3. +7
      7 March 2014 10: 17
      Quote: Svist
      Foreign accounts of our "ELITE" will be blocked and it will sing differently.
      They have already done everything for Crimea to start returning to Russia. If the accounts of the "elite" are blocked, then it will be necessary to say special thanks to them for this, because then we will begin to form a nationally oriented elite (without any quotes!).
    4. +1
      7 March 2014 16: 39
      Serbia Not VVP and Kozhugetich surrendered at all, don't whistle, my dear ... And "Elita" is now firmly held for .. "bells" ... - not the 90th tea ... or are you not familiar with the legends about Bereza and Khodor?
  35. +7
    7 March 2014 09: 31
    The long-suffering Crimea has only two paths, or even sovereignty in general or with Russia, the third option is to remain at least under any conditions with Ukraine, in its current situation, simply dangerous. There, almost all Russians and almost the whole west hate them for this. They will be pulled, staggered, and split!
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  37. +6
    7 March 2014 09: 35
    Regarding the future Crimean referendum, a "woman with a scythe" has already managed to speak out. Mrs. Tymoshenko

    Who is she mistress? Minimum citizen, maximum ZK number*** ...
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 09: 44
      Quote: Oleg Sobol
      maximum ZK No. *** ...

      My number is 245, the seal is on my quilted jacket.
      And before, I lived on Taganka, taught to steal barefoot.
      My number is 245, and I want to go home again.
      And I often dream about my soft bed behind a thorn.
  38. +1
    7 March 2014 09: 35
    Soledar military equipment Ukraine. Published 05 March 2014

  39. Gagarin
    +15
    7 March 2014 09: 35
    If, for some fantastic reason, Crimea does not move to Russia after the 16th, in a month Kiev will clean it up so much that it will be too late, Donbass will already be full of SBU.
    1. +2
      7 March 2014 16: 15
      And in Nikolaev already arrests went on charges of separatism. The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Security Service of Ukraine suddenly woke up.
  40. sazhka4
    +6
    7 March 2014 09: 59
    We arrived ... The battle for Kiev, Kharkov, Donetsk .. It seems like not so long ago it was all already .. For geyropa it ended sadly .. Nobody teaches lessons. USE however ..
  41. amigo1969
    +7
    7 March 2014 10: 22
    Now for Russia it is Stalingrad !!! To step back, to compromise with the West is Death !!!!! Then they will begin to prepare their maidan in Russia too !! Yes, it may not be easy, but they didn’t.
    1. Nikich
      +4
      7 March 2014 10: 27
      Nobody is going to retreat. We give the West under the breath. Let them clean themselves.
    2. +2
      7 March 2014 19: 48
      For Russia, now is the "moment of truth". The world will change dramatically after that. And to show weakness at this moment is NOT ACCEPTABLE! Crimea will be ours!
    3. Maza
      +1
      10 March 2014 16: 05
      For Russia, a kind of Rubicon came. If our Crimea ride, then we do not need such rulers rulers.
  42. Eugene
    +5
    7 March 2014 10: 26
    Yesterday in the news read:

    The Governor of the Voronezh region, Alexei Gordeev, was presented with an ultimatum, in which they demanded, among other things, to announce their intention to annex the region to Ukraine. Such an appeal, signed by the “Black Cross Holy Brotherhood”, was received on March 6 on the website of the regional government, RIA Voronezh reports.
    In addition to the inclusion of the Voronezh region in Ukraine, Gordeeva was proposed, as an alternative, to declare her rejection of the Kremlin’s course and to resign or “lay hands on herself in any way”. In case of failure to comply with the requirements, the governor was threatened with “liquidation” of himself and “objects and personnel” of key enterprises of the region. For reflection, Gordeev was given a day.

    In addition, this is no joke, in Euromaidan took part: the warriors of Narnia and the Vikings.
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  44. 0
    7 March 2014 10: 28
    I am very afraid that GDP will not go to the end, but it will be very unfortunate. May God make a mistake.
    1. both s69
      +1
      7 March 2014 10: 43
      Quote: konvalval
      I am very afraid that GDP will not go to the end, but it will be very unfortunate. May God make a mistake.

      Let's believe and hope that by saying "a", VVP will be able to say "b", and then alphabetically. good
    2. 0
      7 March 2014 23: 21
      There is no return stroke, no longer)))
  45. Nikich
    +16
    7 March 2014 10: 29
    Or Crimea in Russia. Or...
    1. +2
      7 March 2014 10: 35
      That would be just right.
    2. Maza
      0
      10 March 2014 16: 08
      Yes, sooner, tired of waiting.
  46. +2
    7 March 2014 10: 33
    On April 8, 1783, a manifesto was proclaimed on the annexation of Crimea to Russia.
  47. +6
    7 March 2014 10: 41
    Why argue?
    My mother said: "Crimea is ours." So so be it.
  48. +5
    7 March 2014 10: 50
    Strange garbage is happening. Since the end of the 80s of the last century, and the next 23 years, from 91 years, the Ukrainian authorities shouted that they were under the occupation of Russia. So be consistent! Give the "occupants" the territories that were FORCEDLY imposed on you. Crimea and South -Vostok. Be proud! Renounce the "damned" legacy! And do not forget to share with Poland. Save your honor.
  49. +2
    7 March 2014 11: 00
    <<< I (Oksana Dmitrieva) are one of those deputies who have fought in recent years against investing all oil and gas revenues in the Reserve Fund and the National Treasure Fund and keeping them in foreign securities. But we stubbornly invested in IOUs in the United States and some Western European countries. I was against Russia's accession to the WTO ... >>>
    In Russia, for a long time, the economy (unfortunately, not only there) has been ruled by a lib..al pro-Western lobby, which has done and is doing everything to "build" Russia into the world economy, and, in fact, tie it to the economy of the United States and the West! This lobby, of course, will be resolutely against the reunification of Crimea with Russia and will frighten the country's leadership with all the troubles that in this case the West will bring down on Russia (including with their help)! The refusal of Crimea to join Russia under the guise of demagogy about the unity of Ukraine would be a GREAT historical mistake, if not more severe, comparable to the transfer of Crimea to Ukraine in 1954! Russia is presented with a unique case (there may not be a second such case) - to correct the historical injustice and reunite Crimea with Russia and at the same time get rid of all the pro-Western lobbying trash that stuck in the country's governing structures!
  50. +1
    7 March 2014 11: 04
    The first "sticks in the wheels", and we also "spit" as the Americans "spit" on the UN


    The UN Security Council believes that the referendum on the status of Crimea, which will be held March 16, cannot be legitimate


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    “The situation in Ukraine is deteriorating because the referendum is illegal,” said the UN representative following consultations in the Security Council. “Only a referendum throughout Ukraine will be considered legitimate,” he added.

    The UN Security Council meeting was held the night before behind closed doors to discuss the situation in Ukraine. These consultations were held for the fourth time in the last few days.

    Earlier, US President Barack Obama also said that the proposed referendum on the status of Crimea is contrary to international law and the Ukrainian constitution. “Any discussion of the future of Ukraine should go with the participation of the legitimate government of the country,” Obama quoted Interfax as saying.

    In turn, the Prosecutor General of Ukraine filed a lawsuit to declare the Crimean parliament’s decision on holding a referendum illegal.

    “The Supreme Council of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea violated the legislation by this decision, the decree encroaches on the territorial integrity of Ukraine, which requires the intervention of prosecution authorities,” ITAR-TASS was told in the press service of the department.

    On March 6, the Supreme Council of Crimea decided to enter autonomy into Russia as a subject of the Russian Federation. This issue will be submitted to a referendum on the status of Crimea, which will be held on March 16. On the same day, a referendum will be held in Sevastopol on the entry of the city into the Russian Federation.
    1. Novik
      +3
      7 March 2014 14: 35
      Quote: RUSS
      The UN Security Council believes that the referendum on the status of Crimea, which will be held March 16, cannot be legitimate

      1. A precedent is already there.
      Kosovo’s self-declaration of independence does not contradict international lawThe President of the International Court of Justice said on Thursday


      Read on: http://izvestia.ru/news/474464#ixzz2vGtr8b6C
      2.
      “The Sevastopol City Council decided the city of Sevastopol to join the Russian Federation as a subject of the Russian Federation,” the text of the decision says. It is also noted that in making the decision the City Council was guided by the “European Charter of Local Self-Government, Articles 38, 69 of the Constitution of Ukraine, Article 1 of the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, Article 1 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, on the basis of Articles 7, 26 Law of Ukraine “On Local Self-Government in Ukraine”.


      “Actually, I would advise everyone to handle referendums with caution, because after all, this is a direct expression of the will of the people. As for the rest, we'll see.

      http://www.ridus.ru/news/155977
    2. +1
      8 March 2014 00: 02
      Quote: RUSS
      ...
      “The situation in Ukraine is deteriorating because the referendum is illegal,” said the UN representative following consultations in the Security Council. “Only a referendum throughout Ukraine will be considered legitimate,” he added ....

      but you are however a provocateur
      The official representative of the UN Secretary General, speaking on the eve of the Security Council meeting, emphasized that the recognition of the legitimacy of referenda is within the competence of the UN member states.

      http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/3/7/676096.html
  51. SAVA555.IVANOV
    0
    7 March 2014 11: 06
    Now you can’t understand who is for whom and from whom, people change their minds by leaps and bounds, Yanyk is fed up with everyone, he had a policy that was in the wrong place and we were waiting for confident steps into an alliance with Russia, but it fell and wasted time , now Russia needs to look inside, trying to understand who will tear it to shreds from the inside, Ukraine can still be kept from disintegration by the immediate introduction of the Russian army, cops and SBU on the side of the West, and ordinary people will not be able to defeat them, and under the Russians they will quiet down, just like under the Banderaites, at best again the guys from Berkut will be put forward, hiding behind their backs, what happened on the Maidan is the first echelon of the fight for Ukraine, the West has a couple more echelons in store with varying degrees of impact, they have already thought about it in advance, the question is whether there is a confrontation between Russia and the West on the territory of Ukraine will either happen in Russia itself, and looking at how people quickly change their minds, those dissatisfied with the authorities will be in abundance in Russia itself.
  52. Kodar 75
    +4
    7 March 2014 11: 06
    Definitely welcome to join! Our EVERYTHING is there: the people, the history and the fleet!! There is no other way
  53. +7
    7 March 2014 11: 12
    Crimea really should become part of Russia, otherwise it won’t survive... Yes, the West will splash boiling water, but let them also remember that the Helsinki Agreements were de jure annulled... which stipulated the inviolability of European borders and the borders of the USSR... They will pee with boiling water and they will stop...
  54. 0
    7 March 2014 11: 12
    Crimea to Russia is of course good, but I don’t have a definite answer. The situation is too complicated. Big Politics and the voice of the people are different phenomena. It may not work out.
  55. +3
    7 March 2014 11: 20
    Brothers, let's not rush. More than a week ahead (I'm afraid I'll jinx it) winked
  56. 0
    7 March 2014 11: 22
    Quote: borisjdin1957
    Still, we’ll wait until March 16, and only then will we pour some glasses!


    Let's wait. But we won’t be drinking (from glasses) anytime soon.
  57. -4
    7 March 2014 11: 28
    Perhaps I will repeat myself, but nevertheless... It is impossible to accept Crimea into the Russian Federation! I understand everything - Russian people, etc. But! Such precedents cannot be created in international law. Otherwise there will be a chain reaction. Why do you think China supports us? They are waiting for how everything will end between the Russian Federation and Ukraine. If Russia squeezes out Crimea, even through a referendum, they will use this experience to squeeze out their “disputed territories.” hi
    1. +3
      7 March 2014 13: 29
      Quote: Landwarrior
      If Russia squeezes out Crimea, even through a referendum, they will use this experience to squeeze out their “disputed territories”

      Dear, what about Kosovo?
      1. +1
        7 March 2014 14: 57
        Quote: RBLip
        But what about Kosovo?
        It seems they will never hear this question. It seems that they are paid not to hear him.
        1. -1
          7 March 2014 15: 57
          Quote: Stanislav
          It seems they will never hear this question. It seems that they are paid not to hear him.

          Listen, you... If they paid me for my thoughts, I would already be a millionaire. In the meantime, I’m just an armchair analyst, if that’s convenient for you. You see the picture only in a 2-dimensional projection, completely denying the presence of 3-dimensional space hi
      2. 0
        7 March 2014 15: 54
        Quote: RBLip
        But what about Kosovo?

        With Kosovo, so be it. the Americans did not squeeze it out for themselves. Do you see the difference? Let Crimea be at least three times independent BUT NOT AS A COMPOSITION OF RUSSIA!
        1. +3
          7 March 2014 16: 37
          Kosovo is a US-controlled territory, why not for yourself?
          1. -1
            7 March 2014 16: 50
            But Kosovo is not part of the United States!!!! Do you see the difference?
    2. +1
      7 March 2014 16: 35
      There are precedents. Kosovo was taken, the West recognized it. We must not look the West in the mouth, but do what is beneficial for us. Even Türkiye, a NATO country, supported Russia.
      1. -1
        7 March 2014 16: 52
        HAND FACE! None of the Western states have announced the annexation of Kosovo. Do you see the difference or should I explain it again?
        1. +3
          7 March 2014 20: 43
          Quote: Landwarrior
          HAND FACE! None of the Western states have announced the annexation of Kosovo. Do you see the difference or should I explain it again?

          Kosovo is a region with gangster power, which the United States really needs. The main drug traffic from Afghanistan to Europe goes through it. The USA and Britain don’t need a strong Europe, just like Kosovo as part of any European country, especially since only Serbia has the rights to it. For the same reason, the Maidan began, the Saxons are repeating themselves, although if the scheme works, why not try again... European countries don’t need hemorrhoids in the form of an armed gang of separatists, with drugs, on their territory, especially that the gang is not eager to join anyone. And the difference between Crimea is that it is going to remain part of the country, either Ukraine or Russia. And Western Ukraine cannot be separated, no one who needs bandits will take it, only now, Bandera’s followers are striving for power, we will get another “Kosovo”, right next door. what It seems to me that all of Ukraine will have to be taken, along with Western Ukraine, and not just Crimea, not in the sense of occupying, but in the sense of making sure that Bandera’s followers in Ukraine have the earth burning under their feet and their skin rustling from the heat.
        2. +1
          9 March 2014 01: 56
          Quote: Landwarrior
          HAND FACE! None of the Western states have announced the annexation of Kosovo. Do you see the difference or should I explain it again?

          there was such a country as the GDR
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  58. sprinterlis
    +8
    7 March 2014 11: 38
    Please invite polite people to the Lugansk region, just like in Crimea...for a photo session
  59. 0
    7 March 2014 11: 43
    It seems to me that too many people are oriented towards the West in Russia (accounts, assets, economic interests), they will not want to transfer their asses from Mercedes, so Crimea will not go to Russia.
    1. +1
      8 March 2014 21: 04
      too many people are oriented to the West in Russia (accounts, assets, economic interests), they will not want to transfer their asses from Mercedes, so Crimea will not go to Russia.

      At first, where will these “oriented people” go? Let's put them on scooters, it's inconvenient for them, but it's convenient for an ordinary Russian!
      Secondly, Crimea and Sevastopol will leave, or rather return to Russia with a probability 101%, and no one will ask them, Mom told home - the children obey!
  60. Jedi
    -4
    7 March 2014 11: 46
    Quote: Landwarrior
    Perhaps I will repeat myself, but nevertheless... It is impossible to accept Crimea into the Russian Federation! I understand everything - Russian people, etc. But! Such precedents cannot be created in international law. Otherwise there will be a chain reaction.

    I absolutely agree, otherwise, to be honest, I doubt that jingoistic, stupid people have gathered here...
    1. -2
      7 March 2014 15: 58
      Thank you. I'm glad that someone besides me still sees further hi
      1. 0
        7 March 2014 21: 51
        Quote: Landwarrior
        Thank you. I'm glad that someone besides me still sees further hi

        I support you too, but with a reservation. Do not join Russia yet. Live like this for a year with a big association with Russia, and then quietly join in.
        As Astap Bender said, “you cannot immediately take away all the money from people.” That is, everything needs to be done little by little, but systematically then there won’t be much outcry.
        For now, only separation from Ukraine and being an independent state with the city of Sevastopol annexed to Russia as a historical Russian territory.
        1. -3
          7 March 2014 23: 32
          Irokez , Thank you, too. for global understanding hi Residents of Crimea have not lived in Russia for 23 years and have not made taxes or contributions to the pension fund. wink
  61. Janis S.U.
    +7
    7 March 2014 11: 57
    In light of recent events - only as part of Russia! Otherwise, it will be like here in the Baltics - deprivation of citizenship, oppression on linguistic, national and social grounds, language inspections and the inability to occupy leadership positions because of one’s Russian or Russian-speaking origin. At the same time, there will be a total inculcation of lies in kindergartens, schools and higher educational institutions, thereby fooling the younger generation in order to evoke Russophobic views. A ban on teaching in your own language, refusal or sabotage of social assistance for Russian-speaking people, and so on and so forth. This is called putting you on your knees. Do Crimeans need this?
  62. +1
    7 March 2014 12: 06
    Quote: tech laughter
    I do not want to panic. But the battles will still be for Belgorod, Kursk, Voronezh. I live in the Belgorod region, 60 km to the border. At work, the administration collects family lists for evacuation. It would be better if they called me to the draft board and said when there will be mobilization, the issuance of weapons and uniforms.


    Are you a screenwriter?
  63. +2
    7 March 2014 12: 46
    "Cannot be accepted"
    Have you eaten too much fish soup? We will not accept an unrecognized referendum, not legitimate by the Armed Forces of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea - Khan of Crimea. Will the bloody corpses of Russian people disturb your sleep? Or are you afraid of sanctions for your loved one? Or a grantsucker
    1. -2
      7 March 2014 16: 55
      I take it this is for me? I expressed my opinion. Clear and precise. But you just swear and don’t give any arguments other than swearing hi
  64. +5
    7 March 2014 13: 03
    It is necessary to accept Crimea into Russia, raise it as much as possible, and destroy all contacts with Ukraine, ruin it, so that the residents of the southeast will rebel at the difference that will happen in a year or two, there will still be contacts and people will watch how the Crimeans live, and like they are with their banderlogs.
    In the border areas, organize refugee camps and train Russians from Ukraine.
  65. +1
    7 March 2014 13: 06
    It’s strange that the SBU at one time didn’t touch Yarosh or Sashko Bily, are they all Westerners in this SBU...
    The West is waist deep, as the residents of Crimea will vote, their main task is to preserve Ukraine under a pro-Western government, and maximum efforts will be made to achieve this. And if Crimea goes to Russia, we will have no well-wishers left in Ukraine, they will lose Crimea, and it will no longer matter to them for what reason, Russia will be to blame. And the West will try to add fuel to the fire...
  66. thinking
    -12
    7 March 2014 13: 32
    how easily it is controlled by the mouthpiece of the mass media. Half of the local hacks or trolls or provocateurs, or perhaps sheep drugged by a zombie box imitating the opinion of the people. Come to your senses citizens, you are placing the Slavic brothers in different barricades, you wanted brotherly blood, let the Ukrainians decide for themselves, maybe they will be mistaken and go back, why are you, like little children, being carried away by provocations, have you talked to Western Ukrainians? They are not going to be against the Russians, but you all strive to fight with smaller states, go liberate Alaska
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 13: 50
      We didn’t bring in troops, we’ll let you decide for yourself. What is the speech about?
      "Everyone strives to fight with smaller states" Why do you still have a computer? Why don't you dig trenches? You say "War!"
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    3. Janis S.U.
      +2
      7 March 2014 13: 58
      Don’t talk nonsense, some gutta-percha lumpen-national from Lithuania. Everything here is extremely clear and clear - it’s high time for Russia to take Crimea under its wing. Otherwise there will be the same nationalist heresy that is now in the Baltic countries. This is extremely obvious and absolutely true. Ask any Russian-speaking person from the Baltic states - did they want the kind of lawlessness that the local national degenerates, descendants of the Waffen SS, presented to them? You know very well that so much will be said that it could be written down in entire volumes. Well, it was our total master from overseas who placed those Slavs on opposite sides of the barricades, together with the EU’s pathetic puppet substars. Everyone knew very well and said directly that you cannot flirt with the Ukrainian Nazis. It is impossible to overthrow a legally elected president and government by armed means. It is impossible to awaken fratricidal enmity among the Slavs. But people like you specifically fanned this flame. For what? Please the American puppeteers? Amuse your own Russophobic guts of the descendants of Nazi servants? They pleased and amused, but it was only on you and people like you that all the blood that was shed there and will continue to be shed. So your national-Russophobic nonsense is clearly in the wrong place here.
    4. +2
      7 March 2014 16: 42
      Blood is already flowing there, and if you don’t stop it, there will be a massacre, and you won’t get up from the couch and will rant about the global
    5. +2
      7 March 2014 18: 03
      It seems to me, dear man, that you are a provocateur.
    6. 0
      7 March 2014 21: 57
      First of all, Ukraine, and then the Americans.
  67. +1
    7 March 2014 13: 41
    Quote: RBLip
    Quote: Oleg Sobol
    Serbian volunteers with Serbian flags stand and help Crimeans at Crimean Roadblocks

    where did you get it? Is there a video video?



    Serbian Chetniks arrived in the amount of 5 fighters.
  68. +2
    7 March 2014 13: 44
    Quote: denken
    how easily it is controlled by the mouthpiece of the mass media. Half of the local hacks or trolls or provocateurs, or perhaps sheep drugged by a zombie box imitating the opinion of the people. Come to your senses citizens, you are placing the Slavic brothers in different barricades, you wanted brotherly blood, let the Ukrainians decide for themselves, maybe they will be mistaken and go back, why are you, like little children, being carried away by provocations, have you talked to Western Ukrainians? They are not going to be against the Russians, but you all strive to fight with smaller states, go liberate Alaska


    Brother, calm down.
  69. thinking
    -8
    7 March 2014 13: 48
    yeah, citizens, comrades, how easy it is for all sorts of media mouthpieces to control our brains, probably we are already a flock of sheep and not people, since we allow ourselves to lead fraternal peoples across different barricades. You wanted fraternal blood, right? Let Ukraine decide for itself where to go, maybe they will make a mistake , they will return, and if I go my right way and rise, then Glory to the Almighty. Western Ukraine is not going to hang Russians, so you are falling for all sorts of provocations
    1. +4
      7 March 2014 13: 57
      The people of Crimea express their opinion THEMSELVES!!! The "Bratskaya" bloodshed has already been shed - by the Maidanists, by hiring snipers.
      The Nazis are not our Brothers
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    4. Novik
      +3
      7 March 2014 14: 51
      Quote: denken
      Western Ukraine is not going to hang Russians, so you are falling for all sorts of provocations

      Getting ready!
      Boris Filatov, deputy governor of the Dnepropetrovsk region, appointed by the illegitimate regime.
      And the last one. No landing from the Maidan. No extremist statements. It is necessary to give scum any promises, guarantees and make any concessions.

      ...And hang...

      You need to hang them later.


      https://www.facebook.com/borys.filatov/posts/603173516431216

      am

      The deputy head of the Dnepropetrovsk Regional State Administration called on making any promises to the Crimeans, and then “hanging them”
      “No landings from the Maidan. No extremist statements. We need to give the scum any promises, guarantees and make any concessions... And hang them... We have to hang them later,” Filatov wrote on Facebook.

      http://www.vz.ru/news/2014/3/6/675943.html

      Shoot or hang?
      http://www.kp.ru/daily/26203/3089739/
      1. +2
        7 March 2014 20: 17
        IS HE CALLING THE PEOPLE OF DNIPROPETROVERS SCAMMERS? THAT'S A FUCK!
  70. 0
    7 March 2014 13: 58
    Why doesn’t our diplomacy explain to the West, in their language of moneylenders and traders, that three billion dollars, which Russia paid to Ukraine, is this payment for Crimea?
  71. +1
    7 March 2014 14: 50
    Comrades, please vote here too! But I ask in good conscience. Your opinion is important to me: http://lenta-ua.net/golosovanie/49776-chto-dolzhna-predprinyat-ukraina-dlya-ureg
    ulirovaniya-situacii-v-krymu.html
    1. +4
      7 March 2014 16: 52
      voted
  72. +3
    7 March 2014 15: 19
    Voted - point 1.

    A restrained reaction from Russia is unacceptable, as it will show uncertainty or inappropriate caution. Crimea should become part of Russia. Let the bald corn turn over in his grave.
  73. +3
    7 March 2014 15: 36
    As a LifeNews correspondent reports, in Donetsk, soldiers of the Ukrainian special police unit "Berkut", who are stationed at a base near the regional center, refused to follow orders from the Kyiv authorities.

    They oppose the detention of people who go to a rally in support of the people-elected governor of the Donetsk region, Pavel Gubarev, and against the actions of the new authorities of Ukraine.

    Earlier, this information was confirmed in an interview with LifeNews by the wife of the people-elected governor of the Donetsk region, Pal Gubareva, Ekaterina.

    “I was informed that the Donetsk Berkut refused to carry out orders from Kyiv,” she said. - The guys are asking for support.

    Ekaterina Gubareva announced today that she will continue the work of her detained husband. At the same time, she does not hide the fact that she is also afraid of detention.

    - I am a mother of three children. I have a newborn baby in my arms. But nothing can stop us. We have reached the boiling point. I am my husband’s reliable support, I need to continue his fight. I know everything that Pavel planned, I’ll adjust it a little and carry it out,” says Ekaterina.
    1. Barrel
      -4
      7 March 2014 15: 50
      The Ukrainian special police unit "Berkut" does not exist today, which means they cannot be deployed as a unit. And the people seizing the Regional State Administration today are not those unarmed citizens who spoke out in support of the Maidan, they are armed with flash-noise, gas grenades, traumatic weapons and firearms.
      Peaceful attempt to seize the Regional State Administration by Maidanists in Zaporozhye

      Pro-Russian protesters in Kharkov:
      1. Novik
        +3
        7 March 2014 22: 48
        Quote: Barrel
        . And the people who are taking over the Regional State Administration today - these are not the unarmed citizens who supported the Maidan, these are armed with light-noise, gas grenades, traumatic and firearms.

        An attempt to distort reality.
        On the Internet you can find enough material (from various independent sources) about how everything really happened.
        There is no desire to raise "shit" and poke your nose.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk03sAa3ta0
        And more
        "Unarmed civilians" in support of the Maidan?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W6tEprBH24&hd=1
        If protesters throw a Molotov cocktail at the police, the use of force against them is justified- German political scientist ANDREAS UMLAND is a personality quite well known in a narrow circle of political scientists and political observers.

        Read more at: http://ukrday.com/politika/novosti.php?id=109010
        Regarding Bandera.
        My mother is Ukrainian.
        So, in her words (probably she just made it up?), Bandera’s followers sawed wood together with sympathizers of the Soviet regime (they tied them to a log and sawed them in half), and threw Russian language teachers with their heads into the fire.
        This can also be confirmed.
        http://varjag-2007.livejournal.com/2082665.html
        http://yablor.ru/blogs/banderovskie-esbisti-pilili-plennih-kak-drova/827075
        http://www.vgorode.ru/#/people/showPost/tId/3187908/postId/3269835/id/3187907
        etc. etc.
        1. Barrel
          -6
          8 March 2014 01: 20
          The video from the Inter TV channel does not refute the video I provided; it simply omits details and methods of capture. (Bias)
          On the Maidan of Independence - I do not deny that after an Armenian, a Belarusian and a Ukrainian were shot on January 22, the protesters began to arm themselves with weapons: from pneumatics to firearms, but they began to be used only on February 20 (when the death toll exceeded several dozen) and not was of a massive nature, otherwise there would have been much more casualties among the security forces. It was self-defense. It's either you or you. But now we are not talking about this, but about the capture of the Regional State Administration. No one shot or even beat the Russians who seized the building; on the other hand, the Ukrainians were not so lucky: you can find a lot of videos on the Internet with Russian atrocities in Kharkov.
          If protesters throw a Molotov cocktail at the police, the use of force against them is justified

          If militia carries out criminal instructions, it turns from law enforcement agencies into security forces and becomes an accomplice in crimes against the people. The peaceful Maidan stood for 2 months - they didn’t want to listen to it, it went unnoticed. People have a limit to their patience, which is why they went on the offensive. Against Berkut and explosives armed with shields, batons, grenades, they used the available arsenal - stones and molotovs. Meanwhile, Berkut also did not hesitate to use stones and molotovs. The police took an oath to serve the people, not the authorities. The people who were dissatisfied took to the streets, but the sofa and Internet hamsters stayed at home, which means they were satisfied with any scenario of events.
          1. 0
            8 March 2014 09: 07
            You lie and fall
            1. Barrel
              -1
              8 March 2014 14: 21
              Where am I lying? If we talk about the earlier stages of the confrontation, which were relatively peaceful, then it is worth distinguishing between a handful of extremists and the bulk of the protesters, and not only from the west of Ukraine.
              http://news.bigmir.net/ukraine/779105-Otvetstvennost--za-shturm-AP-vzjali-na-seb
              ja-social-nationalisty
    2. +2
      7 March 2014 18: 09
      The golden eagle is the right bird!
  74. Harlamow
    +1
    7 March 2014 15: 40
    Perhaps what is happening now in Ukraine was described by Bismarck "The power of Russia can only be undermined by the separation of Ukraine from it... it is necessary not only to tear off, but also to contrast Ukraine with Russia, to pit two parts of a single people against each other and watch how brother kills brother. For "All you need to do is find and cultivate traitors among the national elite and, with their help, change the self-awareness of one part of the great people to such an extent that they will hate everything Russian, hate their family, without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time."
    http://russophobia.net/61
  75. +2
    7 March 2014 15: 49
    How tired I am of listening to their plans for the strategy of thinking about dismembering the doctrine!! What's in history, what's now, nope!! Why have these bastards been plotting something against Mother Russia for centuries!!!
  76. +2
    7 March 2014 15: 52
    And Hitler also said - To defeat Russia you need to make Belarusians and Ukrainians think that they are not Russians!! Right now he’s probably sitting in hell and rubbing his palms!) - “Eh, it’s a pity I didn’t live long enough.”))
  77. +5
    7 March 2014 16: 06
    I can say this about Sevastopol for sure. Everything is calm with us. unprecedented unity. almost everyone will vote to join Russia. Most of the townspeople have been waiting for this moment for 23 years...
    in Simferopol things are more complicated. but it seems like some Tatars have already looked at the question differently.
    Kerch and Sevastopol are always of the same opinion. Yalta, Feodosia, Evpatoria (especially the latter) are more difficult, but it is felt that the majority is for Russia.
    I am a native Crimean and have lived in Crimea all my life, I have friends and good acquaintances in all the cities of Crimea. The above is my personal impression, of course.
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 20: 07
      Kadyrov and the Kazan Tatar delegation have already talked to the Crimean Tatars, and it seems they shouldn’t interfere.
  78. +4
    7 March 2014 16: 12
    and I can’t even believe that we raised such a wave on February 23...
    This is where it all started publicly. elections of the people's mayor - head of the city's self-defense (Nakhimov Square, Sevastopol).
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 23: 25
      So this is the main thing! So that people don't care, so they get up, go out and SELF-ORGANIZE! Then this is not a crowd, this is the PEOPLE!
  79. +2
    7 March 2014 16: 18
    I saw a video with the landing of idiots with sticks in Odessa. It worries me a little. I hope they have already prescribed it.
  80. +3
    7 March 2014 16: 22
    and already on February 24 an attempt was made to arrest the people's mayor. our own prosecutor, with the telling surname Pilate (who later, of course, denied all this, as usual, the dog had his tail between his legs).
    not allowed. they went out again, but not to the square, but to the City Council and City Administration. decided to remain there on duty so that our local swindlers and shifters would carry out the will of the people. ordinary Sevastopol residents of different ages and professions. and further - more... and we understand that now is the most important time.
  81. 0
    7 March 2014 16: 28
    Regarding the West's indignation at the referendum, we need to speak in their own words when we recognized Kosovo!
    Speaking at the debate, US representative Harold Khonju Koh said: “The United States urges the International Court of Justice to leave Kosovo’s declaration of independence unchanged, as an expression of the will of the people of Kosovo, either to refuse to comment on its legality, or to declare that international law does not prohibit secession.

    The German representative, Susan Wasum-Reiner, suggested that the judges consider the Kosovo case taking into account the principle of efficiency, that is, taking into account the situation on the ground. She said that the unilateral declaration of independence is not in conflict with international law.

    The representative of Austria Helmut Tichy said: "In international law there is no provision prohibiting the adoption of the declaration of independence and secession." Tichy noted that in Kosovo, a declaration of independence was adopted by "elected representatives who expressed the will of the people of Kosovo."

    And finally, a masterpiece from the representative of the UK, Daniel Bethlehem: “Serbia has made it clear that it will never agree to Kosovo’s independence, and Kosovo does not want to be part of Serbia. Courts cannot force hostile couples to remain married. ”
  82. +2
    7 March 2014 16: 33
    A ! Damn, it's sad to see all this. The situation of course. I have a question on a global scale: when will WE finally create some kind of mess under THEIR belly!? How long can you tolerate talking about the rights of people who don’t respect any rights? If only they could make such a mess with Mexico! And it sounds like Mexican and Indian minorities throwing Molotov cocktails at the US Parliament!!!! A? It just sounds like a song!
  83. -3
    7 March 2014 17: 04
    fools... am Do you even understand WHAT THIS THREATENS? am Have you studied the war using computer shooters or something? am To hell with US and EU sanctions - we survived the 90s and will live now...But WAR!...WAR! Which of you keyboard warriors will go to the military registration and enlistment office? NOBODY! This is 100%. Mom and Dad are protecting you! am
    I recommend lying down for at least half an hour on the field under a machine gun. Everything will pass in one or two minutes am
    PS: Where the construction of a phrase is not clear, insert the word B.L.Y.T.B.
    1. +2
      7 March 2014 21: 21
      Speak for yourself
      1. -2
        7 March 2014 21: 37
        My friend, I spoke for myself back in 1995. I tried war in all forms. And that’s why I ask, do YOU ​​need it?
  84. +5
    7 March 2014 17: 24
    Who are the fools? Why are you so scowling? Everyone here is saying that we don’t want to leave our brotherly country in trouble. And who goes to the military registration and enlistment office and who doesn’t is a personal matter of his conscience.
    1. -2
      7 March 2014 21: 45
      Damn, my memory is short. 100 years ago, the Russian Empire joined the brothers....Do I remind you how it ended? am
      1. +2
        7 March 2014 23: 27
        I remember... 1877, Bulgaria...
      2. 0
        8 March 2014 09: 20
        Dear, stop distorting. Historically, RI played, foolishly, for small Britain, against Germany. WWII began not because they fit in with the “brothers”, but because they fulfilled their allied duty, first of all, to France. Well, Nikolai did not know how to choose correctly with whom and against whom to be friends.
        So the memory is not short. Russia had different alliances, but ALWAYS the main enemy was the Nago-Saxons.
  85. mda
    mda
    +2
    7 March 2014 18: 38
    Greetings to all forum members! I haven't been here for a long time...
    On topic: I, of course, am for the annexation of Crimea and the fact that the West calls it “illegitimate” - double standards
  86. mda
    mda
    +5
    7 March 2014 19: 11
    Picture in topic
  87. +2
    7 March 2014 19: 48
    Guys, I understand everything (Crimea и Sevastopol without any Ukraine our), but what about Transnistria? Or have you all forgotten about him? Now truly historical moment of reclaiming one's own territories and their people (our people), must not miss this moment!
    If after Crimea and Sevastopol (and I have no doubt that they will become respectively 84you and 85third subject of the Russian Federation) Kharkov, Donetsk, Odessa, Kiev (Mother of Russian Cities) and others will return to us, then we can openly “cling” to Transnistria, there are also our people, there is also Russian land (YES, we have such different in a good way the earth, Russia it God's mosaic).
    1. Novik
      0
      7 March 2014 23: 39
      ...and Transnistria and Serbia.
      It will be difficult, but we fight...

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEfvrIk-LRw
      Genetic memory, which not everyone has right away, but awakens.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE8Z56YjgLE
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOm_8nQ75qI
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTlsUzU8nHY
  88. 0
    7 March 2014 19: 48
    Oksana Dmitrieva is correctly mentioned in the article. The risks of Crimea joining Russia are quite clearly expressed; this is the freezing of ALL assets of the Reserve Fund. Only one thing can help against this step - Deprivatization and nationalization of companies owned by states and citizens of these states located on the territory and having assets on the territory of Russia.
  89. +2
    7 March 2014 19: 49
    Guys, I really hope that Crimea will be reunited with Russia. Not because Russia has ambitions and all that. I'M TIRED OF OUR PEOPLE BEING INPRESSED BY ALL THINGS. GUYS, COME TO US! YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO ENDURE ALL THIS ABUSE! We are with you until Victory!
  90. mountain hiker
    -5
    7 March 2014 20: 05
    I am Russian. I am 60 years old. Three children and seven grandchildren. I live in Kharkov. I respect other people's opinions and demand respect for mine. I don’t see a single Bandera or fascist around. For the last 8 years, I have been going to Bukovel twice during the winter season. This is the very “nest” of Bandera’s supporters - the Ivano-Frankivsk region. The people are very devout, you travel on the bus and at least half of them will cross themselves at the temple. On Sundays they always go to church in the morning. I am a believer and this is very significant for me. In all this time I have NEVER heard anything bad about the Russians, or someone looked askance at the fact that I spoke Russian. So about Bandera’s supporters all this is nonsense and disinformation. About Maidan... On November 30, the "Berkut" "used inadequate force" against hundreds of students demonstrating in the square. “Inadequate” is when teenagers and girls who are not resisting, lying on the ground, are beaten specifically on the head, stomach, in a crowd of one. Thank God, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians taught me from childhood that they don’t beat someone who is lying down, especially women. It turns out that regular, “elite” police officers are not taught this. Therefore, the next day THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND Ukrainians came out in Kyiv against this atrocity! These are probably the same “fascists” that the Russian media are always shouting about. If then ok=Yanuk had at least formally condemned the actions of the "Berkut", nothing would have happened further. But he began to carry out even more brutal repressions. The result was Maidan. With a capital letter! The harder he pressed, the more Ukrainians joined the protest. I testify that Maidan was never directed against Russia, Russians, Jews, Crimea or the South-East of Ukraine. And not for joining Europe! Only against the bandit in power!!! It was a completely peaceful protest for TWO MONTHS! Then the first deaths from gunshots were provoked... By whom? I really want an objective international investigation to identify, declare and judge the scoundrels, no matter who they are. And then the snowball turned into an avalanche. In response to the mass execution of Maidan protesters, people all over Ukraine began to massively destroy government agencies and the police and seize weapons. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE! Are they all fascists too?! The bandit took a shit and ran away. A fire has started in Ukraine! Change of power, hasty decisions and appointments, cops and bureaucrats hid! It's time to grab something better from your neighbor. Putin begins unprovoked, unjustified aggression. He didn't even bother to put on a couple of theatrical performances to justify it. Well, there were no Banderaites or fascists in Crimea. Only local bandits. Do you know what's happening now? Ukraine is no longer divided into east and west, it is united against the aggressor! There is no need to save and protect me! So far I see only a threat from Putin! Not Russia and Russians, but one single person who plays with the destinies of millions of people, brothers! And this is a very dangerous game! I am Russian, a native Kharkov resident, and I categorically declare that I will defend My home and all of Ukraine from an occupier of any nationality! By all available means and to the last opportunity.
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 20: 23
      You are 60 years old, and you apparently have poor eyesight (“a native Kharkov resident - I don’t see a single Bandera member or fascist around”), you need to see an ophthalmologist, because other Kharkov residents see them!

      So far I see only a threat from Putin! Not Russia and Russians, but one single person who plays with the destinies of millions of people, brothers! And this is a very dangerous game! I am Russian, a native Kharkov resident, and I categorically declare that I will defend My home and all of Ukraine from an occupier of any nationality! By all available means and to the last opportunity.

      As I understand it, Putin is to blame, but you will defend “Ukraine” from the Russian “occupier” soldiers with all available means and capabilities?! Even kill? That is, you are already ready to kill Russian people, since Putin is to blame?!
      But what about “WE ARE BROTHERS, WE ARE BROTHERS, there won’t be a war because WE ARE BROTHERS, WE ARE SLAVS, WE HAVE THE SAME ROOTS, WE HAVE ONE ORTHODOX FAITH,” when you here declare that you are ready to defend “Ukraine” with all available means and capabilities , which means killing Russian people - brothers! Inconsistency...
    2. +1
      7 March 2014 20: 35
      Quote: mountain hiker
      I am Russian. I am 60 years old. Three children and seven grandchildren. I live in Kharkov. I respect other people's opinions and demand respect for mine. I don’t see a single Bandera or fascist around. For the last 8 years, I have been going to Bukovel twice during the winter season. This is the very “nest” of Bandera’s supporters - the Ivano-Frankivsk region. The people are very devout, you travel on the bus and at least half of them will cross themselves at the temple. On Sundays they always go to church in the morning. I am a believer and this is very significant for me. In all this time I have NEVER heard anything bad about the Russians, or someone looked askance at the fact that I spoke Russian. So about Bandera’s supporters all this is nonsense and disinformation. About Maidan... On November 30, the "Berkut" "used inadequate force" against hundreds of students demonstrating in the square. “Inadequate” is when teenagers and girls who are not resisting, lying on the ground, are beaten specifically on the head, stomach, in a crowd of one. Thank God, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians taught me from childhood that they don’t beat someone who is lying down, especially women. It turns out that regular, “elite” police officers are not taught this. Therefore, the next day THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND Ukrainians came out in Kyiv against this atrocity! These are probably the same “fascists” that the Russian media are always shouting about. If then ok=Yanuk had at least formally condemned the actions of the "Berkut", nothing would have happened further. But he began to carry out even more brutal repressions. The result was Maidan. With a capital letter! The harder he pressed, the more Ukrainians joined the protest. I testify that Maidan was never directed against Russia, Russians, Jews, Crimea or the South-East of Ukraine. And not for joining Europe! Only against the bandit in power!!! It was a completely peaceful protest for TWO MONTHS! Then the first deaths from gunshots were provoked... By whom? I really want an objective international investigation to identify, declare and judge the scoundrels, no matter who they are. And then the snowball turned into an avalanche. In response to the mass execution of Maidan protesters, people all over Ukraine began to massively destroy government agencies and the police and seize weapons. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE! Are they all fascists too?! The bandit took a shit and ran away. A fire has started in Ukraine! Change of power, hasty decisions and appointments, cops and bureaucrats hid! It's time to grab something better from your neighbor. Putin begins unprovoked, unjustified aggression. He didn't even bother to put on a couple of theatrical performances to justify it. Well, there were no Banderaites or fascists in Crimea. Only local bandits. Do you know what's happening now? Ukraine is no longer divided into east and west, it is united against the aggressor! There is no need to save and protect me! So far I see only a threat from Putin! Not Russia and Russians, but one single person who plays with the destinies of millions of people, brothers! And this is a very dangerous game! I am Russian, a native Kharkov resident, and I categorically declare that I will defend My home and all of Ukraine from an occupier of any nationality! By all available means and to the last opportunity.



      You damn 60-year-old walrus and not a Kharkov resident, God forgive me! You talk like a liberal exiled Cossack. There is no national fraternal spirit of unity in you.
    3. 0
      7 March 2014 21: 29
      Of course, this is Putin’s propaganda! In general, it’s all Putin’s propaganda!
      In fact, there was NO Nuremberg, Hiroshima, Gagarin, ... Yugoslavia.
      There was no Halacost either? Look carefully... no matter how international criminal prosecution
    4. 0
      8 March 2014 12: 55
      I'm sorry, I don't believe you.
      I am a Soviet officer. I'm 48.
      As a snotty kid, I watched "Old Men Go to Battle." Commander Titarenko TOGETHER with Lieutenant Ku. tfu... Aleksandrov) With and with others he fought AGAINST the Nazis.
      I also watched “The Dawns Here Are Quiet.” You know, the girls - they are children - did not let the Nazis through, even at the cost of their lives!
      You're lying about being 60. Because you would have seen the movie "Come and See."
      I watched these and many other RIGHT films. And I read the CORRECT books. For example, "250 days of the Heroic Defense of Sevastopol"
      You probably learned about the Nazis from Mikhalkov’s “Citadel”? or from Bondarchuk’s “Stalingrad”? I will upset you, these films are not about the War, not about the feat of the Soviet People. There the topic of "SISEG" was revealed.

      Notice that during the entire time you were MAIDANIL there, NO ONE NEVER wrote here: Beat the crests - save Russia. Your “peaceful” people write: we’ll hang her on the knives, stab her in the forehead.

      And their children are being treated. Grandfathers told: the Cossacks stood in a circle, they lowered the children's trousers, put their bellies on the bench and kicked the brain back into their heads (folk remedy). For those who are not helped, you can be prescribed to walk in formation for several years. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING: EVERYONE WATCH THE RIGHT MOVIES AND READ THE RIGHT BOOKS REGULARLY.

      Then there will be no problem of choosing which side to stand on and with whom to be friends.

      The boys and I are always together with Titarenko against the fascist evil spirits and Bandera.
      Have you made up your mind?
  91. -2
    7 March 2014 20: 09
    The survey is unjustifiably provocative. It's not good to share what you don't have. Moreover, “scratch your turnip” about how to live like us.
  92. Matvey
    0
    7 March 2014 20: 13
    Poll on the news site of one of the cities of Crimea - http://kerch.fm/2014/03/07/kerchfm-prosit-kerchan-prinyat-uchastie-v-oprose-po-r
    eferendumu.html Just a month ago this site was flooded with information about the “delights of the Maidan”. The survey results are unlikely to please these “revolution lovers” lol
  93. mountain hiker
    -2
    7 March 2014 20: 47
    Quote: Brother
    You are 60 years old, and you apparently have poor eyesight (“a native Kharkov resident - I don’t see a single Bandera member or fascist around”), you need to see an ophthalmologist, because other Kharkov residents see them!
    Do you live in Kharkov? Or you have good eyesight and can see better from Russia. Specifically, who saw the fascists when, where in Kharkov? I met people in Moscow where they checked my documents at every step and called me a Ukrainian.
    !
    But what about “WE ARE BROTHERS, WE ARE BROTHERS, there won’t be a war because WE ARE BROTHERS, WE ARE SLAVS, WE HAVE THE SAME ROOTS, WE HAVE ONE ORTHODOX FAITH,” when you here declare that you are ready to defend “Ukraine” with all available means and capabilities , which means killing Russian people - brothers! Inconsistency...

    There is no "inconsistency". Brother, come and visit, we’ll receive you, we’ll pour you a drink, we’ll respect you. And if you have a machine gun, then you are not my Brother!
    1. 0
      7 March 2014 21: 41
      I have a machine gun no (from Sasha Bely Yes). And if there was, would you defend “Ukraine” with all available means and capabilities from me? But I’m a Brother, a Slav, an Orthodox man, and the machine gun doesn’t shoot by itself, and the fact that it’s hanging on my shoulder is only for self-defense, like the knives in the pockets of the Banderlogs (although according to the looted arsenals they already have more likely not just knives).
      Most likely I will never come to Kharkov, I speak Russian, I am a Russian person, you never know, “suddenly” the putschists will take me for a “Kremlin agent” and "Putinsky man", they will beat you, douse you with gasoline, force you to sing the Ukrainian anthem, and then kidnap you from Kharkov and send you to Kiev, and there people disappear among other things... Although you don’t hear or see anything, and what the people of Kiev themselves write about the chaos in in your city, this "PutinSky propaganda" and it has nothing to do with “truth”, because Europe has reigned in Kyiv (in the best sense of the word), and Yaros, Tyagnibok and White Sashas seem to us here in Russia, to all 140 million people. what.
  94. 0
    7 March 2014 20: 48
    PEOPLE! STOP BEING COWWIND AND TALKING ABOUT LIBERAL VALUES! NOW YOUR AND OUR FATE IS BEING DECIDED! WE LOSE CRIMEA - WE WILL LOSE OURSELVES! NOW IS NOT THE TIME FOR DIFFERENT JUDGMENTS THAT MORALLY DECAY OUR UNITY.
  95. +2
    7 March 2014 21: 14
    Quote: mountain hiker
    Quote: Brother
    You are 60 years old, and you apparently have poor eyesight (“a native Kharkov resident - I don’t see a single Bandera member or fascist around”), you need to see an ophthalmologist, because other Kharkov residents see them!
    Do you live in Kharkov? Or you have good eyesight and can see better from Russia. Specifically, who saw the fascists when, where in Kharkov? I met people in Moscow where they checked my documents at every step and called me a Ukrainian.
    !
    But what about “WE ARE BROTHERS, WE ARE BROTHERS, there won’t be a war because WE ARE BROTHERS, WE ARE SLAVS, WE HAVE THE SAME ROOTS, WE HAVE ONE ORTHODOX FAITH,” when you here declare that you are ready to defend “Ukraine” with all available means and capabilities , which means killing Russian people - brothers! Inconsistency...

    There is no "inconsistency". Brother, come and visit, we’ll receive you, we’ll pour you a drink, we’ll respect you. And if you have a machine gun, then you are not my Brother!


    What machines? What are you talking about old man? Gray hair in the beard, devil in the rib? Reason objectively yourself if you demand it from others. The fact that Bandera’s guys haven’t yet cracked your old forehead with a rifle butt does not mean at all that they won’t do it. It's not your turn yet. You have safecrackers and tour operators setting up huts there on the sly, AND YOU ARE HERE ARGUING WITH US!
  96. 0
    7 March 2014 21: 14
    Quote: denken
    yeah, citizens, comrades, how easy it is for all sorts of media mouthpieces to control our brains, probably we are already a flock of sheep and not people, since we allow ourselves to lead fraternal peoples across different barricades. You wanted fraternal blood, right? Let Ukraine decide for itself where to go, maybe they will make a mistake , they will return, and if I go my right way and rise, then Glory to the Almighty. Western Ukraine is not going to hang Russians, so you are falling for all sorts of provocations



    I say calm down brother
  97. +2
    7 March 2014 21: 34
    March 16 as soon as possible
  98. mountain hiker
    -2
    7 March 2014 21: 41
    What machines? What are you talking about old man? Gray hair in the beard, devil in the rib? Reason objectively yourself if you demand it from others. The fact that Bandera’s guys haven’t yet cracked your old forehead with a rifle butt does not mean at all that they won’t do it. It's not your turn yet. You have safecrackers and guest performers setting up huts there under the guise, AND YOU ARE HERE ARGUING WITH US![/quote]

    100 series machine guns, like those of the “little green men” now in Crimea. I may be old, but I still have enough strength to teach salabons like you. Are you emphasizing your own greatness in capital letters?! Son, you need to be more modest! And I already spoke about Bandera’s followers, only in your fevered imagination!
    1. +1
      7 March 2014 22: 40
      Quote: mountain hiker
      Are you emphasizing your own greatness in capital letters?! And I already spoke about Bandera’s followers, only in your fevered imagination!

      Yes, this is not exactly what you are arguing about or thinking differently about, and this is the reason.
      You think that everything is being done correctly in Ukraine. In fact, they threw out Janek - that’s normal, but what’s next you have naive thoughts and desires, because then you no longer decide what will happen.
      What exactly happened? Under the guise of correct reforms against the Aligarhs and even slight Russophobia, power was seized by the same Aligarh thieves and another force, the Fascists. You swapped soap for soap and gave birth to the Nazis. So, if nothing is done now, then the Nazis will gradually tighten the screws in the Southeast slowly, but systematically, and then it will be too late to shout to the EU and to the whole world that we feel bad and are being crushed little by little. Look what is happening right now with the old government and even with the opposition to the Maidan, although not everyone, they are starting to spread rot on leaders and former law enforcement officers, columns of clearly Nazi followers, the aligarchs are being given land to rule in the regions based on their merits in the coup, laws are being passed that are anti-Russian and pro-fascist.
      I don’t argue that in Lvov and Ivano-Frankivsk and western Ukraine there are normal and adequate people, but the problem is not with them, but with those ultra-right, Russophobes, Nazis who, in the minority, carry out a coup and rock Ukraine. And if nothing is done now, then Ukraine will eventually turn into these ultra neo-Nazis, Russophobes and totalitarian oligarchs. An explosive mixture of money and fascists. And you are now speaking out for this future, and your children and grandchildren may serve in the army in this future explosive mixture as cannon fodder for their ambitions.
      Look into the future with logic and you will understand why people are now starting to worry about their future and are looking for help from their brothers. Moreover, the entire Southeast is the original Russian territory that was inherited by small Ukraine at the whims of the former governments, and what’s terrible if Russian territories gather together.
      Maybe you are worried about some kind of business that will go away when it joins Russia?
      1. mountain hiker
        -2
        7 March 2014 23: 20
        You are all repeating the mantra as if under a spell: Banderaites, fascists, Russophobes.... I say again - personally, I have NEVER seen this or heard it from others. Not in Kharkov, not in Lvov, not in Crimea, not on the Maidan! People stood up against the bandit authorities! The main requirement: “Get the prisoner out!” (in Russian - n x!). Do you think there are fools here and don’t understand that all sorts of bastards are striving for power?! They understand perfectly, that’s why the Maidan doesn’t disperse! And ordinary people simply had hope that next time they would be able to influence the whole world, even change those holding power. That we are not slaves and are capable of influencing our destiny. And the Head of Government Yatsenyuk is already flying to Brussels in regular economy class on a scheduled plane, but Yulia’s motorcade was stopped and they were told that people didn’t die just so she could travel with flashing lights. How long? I don’t know... But I know what I will do if gangster chaos starts again. Understand that it was not a fascist coup that took place in Ukraine, but a People's Revolution!
        1. 0
          8 March 2014 00: 00
          Quote: mountain hiker
          But I know what I will do if gangster chaos begins again. Understand that it was not a fascist coup that took place in Ukraine, but a People's Revolution!

          How can you not understand that by removing the aligarch bandits, you got the same thing, but competitors plus nationalists. And right now, going in the mainstream of the revolution, you are being used on the Maidan and they are singing along with you, supposedly about your own defense and your aspirations, but this is temporary (you won’t stand for a year). The people let off steam, they did their job, but you are no longer needed and they will gradually send you home, but the right sector will not break up with the nationalists, and if they do, they will go into the shadows because the struggle is not over and there are many leaders climbing up.
          The leadership is playing along with the demonstrators, trying not to arouse their anger and discontent, but for how long. The Aligarhs still exist and haven’t gone anywhere, and don’t rely on them for power; they won’t just hand it over to anyone, and the right sector lives off the money of both the oligarchs and foreign scriptwriters.
          I understand your hopes, but the fair society you think about on the banks of honey does not exist in the world (you are too idealistic). Oh, what a great achievement to tell Yulia after the rally that they want her to show Yatsenyuk not on the presidential plane, but on a regular plane (he’s not the president). How they buy you cheap.
          I don’t understand, didn’t Bandera collaborate with the Nazis? Who is Bandera - a soul lover and a cannibalist? Tyagnebok, Yarosh and Sasha Belenky with the same - defenders of freedom and security? Don’t forget, Hitler started in the same way and raised the patriotism of his people very high, and how did it end? The exaltation of the superman (Aria), the supercivilization of Germany and the Second World War. All the initial signs are evident in Kyiv. This is a matter of time and we have already been through this and should not allow this because the Slavic people are worried.
          1. mountain hiker
            -1
            8 March 2014 00: 51
            The extreme right, the extreme left, centrists, nationalists - all who are represented in parliament - are a reflection of the choice of various segments of the people. This is a normal form of democracy. If everyone has the same opinion, then it is totalitarianism, or rather the vile substitution of different opinions by the dominant ideology. In what decisions did our parliament preach fascism? The language law that Russian speakers opposed was repealed on the second day! Where are the calls to beat the Russians! Beat the Jews! They do not exist and cannot exist!!! Where is fascism? What is our problem that we need to be protected? Was Yarosh elected to the National Security and Defense Council? So you have Glazyev, who believes that subhumans live in Ukraine. I really don't like him either! I’m not coming to you with advice. Oligarchs governors? Who is the governor of Chukotka? Is any of your governors not an oligarch? I'm not saying that everything is good and correct with us. If it were so, the people would not support it. But we are trying to change something and we will figure it out ourselves, without armed prompting.
            1. +1
              8 March 2014 14: 38
              Quote: mountain hiker
              But we are trying to change something and we will figure it out ourselves, without armed prompting.

              So figure it out for yourself, but the majority should dominate, not the minority.
              And regarding the repealed law, they immediately backtracked, but the true goals had already been voiced, and the word was not released by a sparrow and you will not catch it. People understood what everything would lead to at the final stage.
              It is clear that right now everything is fine and no one is beating Jews and Russians there, but the people realized why because it is not the time to beat them and therefore they want to play it safe and reunite with their former Motherland, which is why they are striving for Russia.
              So listen to the opinion of the working people who want to be in Russia, from which it was torn away at one time, and live in peace.
  99. sled beach
    +1
    7 March 2014 21: 48
    The distance of America is sad, you just can’t reach them, they hid behind a large puddle and completely lost the taste of fear. But how persistently they climb! It didn’t work out for the Amers as they wanted, so out of spite they want to unleash a civil war! What kind of creatures are they? This is the only nation that can to use nuclear weapons, if Hitler was a national ideolist, then the Americans apparently have no concept of humanity at all, and the Maidanists are generally expendable for them. Russia is probably anointed with something that everyone wants to stick their nose in here. So maybe the next war will be waged to complete extermination so that the enemy will be remembered for 300 years, let him live in peace, otherwise not even 69 years have passed and now a new American pig is creeping in. It’s a pity that that’s why they’re crawling so far so boldly, they’ll set Europe on fire and will sit back and extract money as best they can.
  100. +1
    7 March 2014 21: 50
    I didn't specifically read all the comments. On my own behalf, I pray... LORD! SAVE and SAVE us in our desire to become united!!!!!! PROTECT and SAVE us from the adversary! INSPIRE and GIVE us strength to carry YOUR NAME O LORD! Our faith is holy, be it Orthodox or Muslim, or another FAITH living in this GOD-PROTECTED COUNTRY. FOR GOD IS ONE! Everything is YOUR WILL!... hear MY FAITH and prayer, OH LORD!