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The Pentagon decided to increase the number of fighters in the Baltic States

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The Pentagon, against the background of events in Ukraine, intends to more than double the number of F-15S fighters patrolling the airspace over Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, said a representative of the American defense ministry.


Four fighters that are carrying out the NATO mission in the Baltic States will be joined by six more, as well as one KC-135 tanker aircraft. The build-up of forces will occur, as expected, already this week, RIA "News"Referring to Reuters.

US Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel said Wednesday at a congressional hearing that the Pentagon will expand military cooperation with Poland and the Baltic countries due to the political crisis in Ukraine.
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  1. Tumbleweed
    Tumbleweed 6 March 2014 11: 09
    +41
    In a fig to them the tanker plane, there all Baltic for 5 min. Can I fly? Maybe for the defense of Spratland they will also deploy strategic aviation?
    And yes, of course, 4 fighters will not be able to stop "aggressive" Russia, but 10 is a force, here the Russians will immediately get scared, and after all, there are also 3 non-firing tanks and inflatable boats ...
    1. Palych9999
      Palych9999 6 March 2014 11: 29
      +18
      Yes.
      There still is a military kite and a naval raft ...
      1. Good cat
        Good cat 6 March 2014 11: 56
        +4
        And, then I was mistaken, the Navy is a raft))))
        1. elmi
          elmi 6 March 2014 16: 55
          +4
          The Pentagon decided to increase the number of fighters in the Baltic States

          America is already furious with powerlessness, no longer knows how to bother us more painfully. We must cover Cuba with our aircraft in return! let them know that we too can answer.
    2. Palych9999
      Palych9999 6 March 2014 11: 29
      +4
      Yes.
      There still is a military kite and a naval raft ...
    3. Papakiko
      Papakiko 6 March 2014 11: 44
      +9
      Quote: tumbleweed
      Maybe for the defense of Spratland it’ll also deploy strategic aviation

      They will be able to place it in a matter of hours.
      Airfields are reconstructed and able to receive any type of aircraft.
      just starting to fall asleep in the boiler.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 6 March 2014 11: 49
        +5
        Well, a couple of Iskanders and aim there. 4 rockets with cartridges perfectly cover everything that moves there.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 6 March 2014 12: 33
          +4
          Quote: Wedmak
          Well, a couple of Iskanders and aim there. 4 rockets with cartridges perfectly cover everything that moves there.

          All NATO airfields and headquarters in the radius of Iskander-M have long been under the gun.
        2. SHAKESPEARE
          SHAKESPEARE 6 March 2014 13: 01
          +14
          The guys in this war, if it will be World War 3, there will be no winners, and everyone knows this, so this is a simple NATO weapon rattling and nothing more good. Russia is doing the right thing that makes them nervous, and we all know that what kind of losses do they incur due to the maintenance of all their troops, their meaningless combat training flights, training, peace, and so now in a deep economic crisis, they will further undermine their economy, the economy of their countries, the money of their taxpayers flies into the pipe, here it is necessary to wage such a war with them that they would explode from the inside. so that their people would constantly tease with strikes, riots, that they would defeat the enemy, inappropriately conduct military operations with them, they must be beaten with their own hands, such a fight is more effective.
          1. kirieeleyson
            kirieeleyson 6 March 2014 16: 37
            +2
            The big enemy is bitten around the edges. To compete with their propaganda is almost a hopeless matter, but the bar must be kept. Here as it is now, it is necessary to inexplicably and rigidly do what we are doing, without warnings and equivocations, systematically expanding the zone of influence. The battle for the minds of people is won by the results of actions.
        3. eagle11
          eagle11 6 March 2014 13: 23
          +3
          This is where there are so many "expanders" and with such a range?
          1. VAF
            VAF 6 March 2014 13: 28
            +4
            Quote: eagle11
            This is where there are so many "expanders" and with such a range?


            And they have .. " fellow -beam "caps instead wassat So .. throw lol
            Hello, +! drinks
            1. eagle11
              eagle11 7 March 2014 12: 54
              +1
              Hello, +! So the people of Wikipedia or something else have read it and thinks that we have the whole of the Baltic States at gunpoint.
          2. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 7 March 2014 03: 26
            +2
            Quote: eagle11
            This is where there are so many "expanders" and with such a range?

            The conversation was about the NATO airfields in the Baltic states.
      2. gispanec
        gispanec 6 March 2014 14: 07
        +2
        Quote: Papakiko
        Airfields are reconstructed and able to receive any type of aircraft.

        for this, there is SPECIALIZED ..... well, at worst .... a platoon of teaching staff from the Blue Lyapigov)) ... they will tear everyone there))
    4. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 6 March 2014 11: 50
      +22
      It will be like in an old joke ...
      Frau Marta had two gold and earthenware toilets,
      but when Russian tanks entered Berlin,
      she got it right on the stairs!
      1. alex-s
        alex-s 6 March 2014 14: 14
        +1
        Apparently the sprats are afraid: suddenly, by chance, our tanks will not have time to slow down and accidentally reach them!
    5. 222222
      222222 6 March 2014 11: 54
      +5
      ..American laxative for the Balts ... From fear, apparently constipation happened ..
      .. airplanes with avb Leikinhit uk (48 thiacres) on avb Šiauliai Lithuania
      1. 222222
        222222 6 March 2014 15: 30
        +1
        ... after the American laxative, verbal diarrhea of ​​the "great" Balts will begin .. and, of course, on the Russian bear ..
    6. Good cat
      Good cat 6 March 2014 11: 55
      +4
      I really liked the inflatable boats in the video,))) it was probably the Navy?
    7. Duke
      Duke 6 March 2014 12: 10
      +24
      "Sukhoi" versus F-15

      In August 1992, at the Langley airbase in Virginia, Major E. Karabasov proposed to conduct a training battle between the serial Russian Su-27UB fighter and the pride of American aviators, Fighter F-15 Eagle (Eagle). The Americans collapsed and politely refused, offering in return to maneuver over the ocean. First, “Eagle” was supposed to get away from the prosecution of “Sukhoi,” and then the roles changed.
      From our delegation flew Karabasov. F-15 climbed out of his way, turning on the afterburner and squeezing the maximum out of the engine.
      But our hawk easily "hung" on the tail of an American, using only the minimum afterburner mode and maximum after-thrust. And although the largest angle of attack for the Su-27 does not exceed 26 degrees (the angle between the direction of flight and the surface), our pilot has never crossed the face of 18 degrees.
      Roles have changed. Karabasov, after giving the fast and the furious, easily left the F-15 with an energetic U-turn and climb. Amerikos, rushing after him, fell behind. An air battle carousel spun. Our conditional adversary even lost sight of Karabasov and panicked in the air: “Where is Flanker?” (NATO codename Su-27). And the Russian major, after one and a half full reversal, came to the tail of the enemy. The latter's attempts to break away were in vain. And if it were a real fight - to fly a burning "Eagle" into the ocean waves ...
      1. eagle11
        eagle11 7 March 2014 13: 14
        +2
        27th, my favorite plane. Yes, he is very good, has outstanding characteristics (for his time), comfortable to fly, but. Like all aircraft, it has limitations and is "sharpened" for certain modes.
        Of course, I am familiar with this episode, but it (as the story begins) was back in 1992. Since that time, a lot of water has flowed under the bridge, AMRAAM and 9X, 15th, plenty of them appeared, and in all modes they flew with MiG-29 and Su-27. The tactics of conducting close battles have been worked out. I will say more, earlier for the "aggressors" there was even a special, lightweight version developed by the F-16N, specifically to imitate Soviet highly maneuverable fighters, only then it was abandoned when they began to fly the MiG-29.
        The airplane never wins alone. Victory is a collective work, which cannot be sustained on only LTH, everything is important here. Especially what we were in the "place of honor": management and electronic warfare. And much and much ...
    8. Gomunkul
      Gomunkul 6 March 2014 12: 37
      +7
      Fig them tanker
      It's simple, like they increased the number of planes and thereby showed what they think about the safety of Spratlandia, but when they really smell fried, they take off and dump, I think already overseas, and for this we need a refueling station to fly to America without stopping. hi
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    10. gispanec
      gispanec 6 March 2014 13: 50
      +2
      Quote: tumbleweed
      But there are also 3 tanks

      not three, but two ..... and one leased to Estonia ...... I really watched the military parade of the Chukhons ... ....
    11. Ivan.
      Ivan. 6 March 2014 14: 15
      +1
      Quote: rolling the field
      In a fig to them the tanker plane, there all Baltic for 5 min. Can I fly? Maybe for the defense of Spratland they will also deploy strategic aviation?
      And yes, of course, 4 fighters will not be able to stop "aggressive" Russia, but 10 is a force, here the Russians will immediately get scared, and after all, there are also 3 non-firing tanks and inflatable boats ...

      These planes will be deployed at Putin's request. Our pilots complain that there are few training targets and they have to be economized. As for the tankers, we are probably talking about "transit" flights from the territory of other NATO countries along and deep into our borders - not scary, but maybe we will find a use for them. lol
    12. Barrcode
      Barrcode 7 March 2014 08: 45
      +1
      Will new air rarities be brought to Latvians? Is not the F-15 of all modifications morally and technically obsolete? Or is it such a kind of demarche ...
  2. Max otto
    Max otto 6 March 2014 11: 10
    +5
    Ponte is cheap. Who needs these prostitutes? Again they all restore ardor?
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 6 March 2014 11: 20
      +11
      Quote: Max Otto
      Ponte is cheap. Who needs these prostitutes? ABOUT

      To nobody. Here is the sight of Russia. So to say the game with muscles, we will observe further than all this will end. Something all this smells like kerosene.
      1. igordok
        igordok 6 March 2014 13: 09
        +2
        Quote: Sirocco
        Here is the sight of Russia. So to say the game with muscles, we will observe further than all this will end. Something all this smells like kerosene.

        Someone scares. You are in the Crimea, and we are in Kaliningrad. Trying to scare.
      2. Max otto
        Max otto 6 March 2014 13: 33
        +2
        Quote: Sirocco
        To nobody. Here is the sight of Russia. So to say the game with muscles, we will observe further than all this will end. Something all this smells like kerosene.

        Therefore, he wrote that show-offs are cheap, they know that the Russians are not afraid of them, this is so, show the mongrels - they say, "Don't bother, we are mulberries." hi
      3. flc9800
        flc9800 6 March 2014 20: 08
        +1
        Sluggish muscles of some kind ... You had to swing more, and eat less hamburgers with Coke;)
  3. Hope
    Hope 6 March 2014 11: 11
    +1
    and will hot Baltic guys fly on them? then send at least ten more, they won’t even have time to take off.
  4. Lantau
    Lantau 6 March 2014 11: 13
    +7
    You might think in which case it will save them!
  5. Lissyara
    Lissyara 6 March 2014 11: 17
    +4
    Yeah Horrible power. 10 fighters and 3 kites from each republic. Make fun!
    And if Latvia starts to prepare combat sprats? wink
    1. alex-s
      alex-s 6 March 2014 14: 19
      +1
      And if Latvia starts to prepare combat sprats? wink

      And we have already prepared!

      http://rbcdaily.ru/market/562949990237743
  6. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 6 March 2014 11: 17
    +9
    One airbase - one Iskander missile
  7. Llirik
    Llirik 6 March 2014 11: 18
    +5
    Let them play pranks, dogs bark - a caravan of polite people is walking or standing. Does what is required in general ...
  8. Wiruz
    Wiruz 6 March 2014 11: 20
    +3
    So the next training ground for the fall of Poplar will not be located in Kazakhstan, but somewhere on the American continent smile
    1. Hope
      Hope 6 March 2014 12: 20
      +4
      the goal is Yellowstone Nature Reserve, there will be a beautiful American Strait, probably with luck.
    2. avg
      avg 6 March 2014 12: 56
      +1
      Quote: Wiruz
      So the next training ground for the fall of Poplar will not be located in Kazakhstan, but somewhere on the American continent

      First you need to teach the Balts to count, at least to ten. Each fighter is minus 1 million tons of cargo through their ports.
      - 6 fighters is how much?
      - Shikoko, Shikoko? request
      The balts asked for a long time.
  9. Berserker
    Berserker 6 March 2014 11: 20
    +4
    Khokhlam is just a splurge, in the American and Ukrainian media this news is: - NATO doubled the number of fighters in the Baltic states ...
    But in fact? it was 4, it became 10) In response to this, I propose to seriously strengthen the air defense group at the border, namely the +1 S-400 complex. angry laughing
  10. mountain
    mountain 6 March 2014 11: 20
    +1
    These planes, like the last cartridge in a pistol, for suicide.
  11. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 6 March 2014 11: 20
    +3
    That's the trouble, we need another 7 missiles for the S-300 ride ... laughing
  12. sazhka4
    sazhka4 6 March 2014 11: 22
    +3
    Even thinking zapadlo ... Let's play
  13. Gxash
    Gxash 6 March 2014 11: 24
    +7
    Interestingly - how many hypothetically can one unit of the SU-35, SU-27, or MiG-29 in an aerial combat F-15S bring down?
    In addition, they will have behind their backs:

    1st command of the Air Force and Air Defense of Russia in the ZVO:

    As of 2013 year
    1 Airborne Defense Brigade (S-300ПМ, С-300ПС complexes) - Severomorsk
    2-I aerospace defense brigade (S-300ПМ complexes) - Khvoyny, Krasnoe Selo, St. Petersburg
    3-I aerospace defense brigade
    7000 Guards Borisov-Pomeranian twice Red Banner Order of the Suvorov Mixed Aviation Division:
    455 SAP, Voronezh, aircraft Su-24MP, Su-34.
    159 Guards IAP, Besovets, Karelia, aircraft Su-27P, Su-27UB.
    98 Guards SAP, Monchegorsk, Murmansk region., Su-24М, Su-24МР, MiG-31БМ aircraft.
    790 Guards IAP, Khotilovo, Tver region., MiG-31DZ, MiG-31БМ, Su-27 aircraft.
    14 Guards IAP, Halino, Kursk, MiG-29СМТ planes.
    6 Air Group 7000 airbases: Levashovo, Leningrad Region, transport aircraft.
    800-I Red Banner Aviation (2-th category): Chkalovsky, Moscow Region, IL-76, Il-78, An-12, An-24, An-26, An-72, IL-18, IL-20, IL-22, An-140-100, Mi-8 helicopters.
    378 Air Army Base (2 discharge): Vyazma, Mi-24, Mi-8 helicopters.
    549 Air Army Base (2 level): Levashovo, Pribylovo, Leningrad Region, helicopters Mi-8, Mi-24.
    Engineering Battalion

    Question - 10 fighters will save? :)
    1. Papakiko
      Papakiko 6 March 2014 11: 41
      +6
      Quote: Gxash
      Question - 10 fighters will save? :)

      And now recount everything that a geyropa and mattress can pull up.
      What would be the same mileage for garlic? Take it remotely from Spratlandia.
      1. Gxash
        Gxash 6 March 2014 11: 47
        +1
        They, too, can pull on aviation and air defense quite a bit. If it starts, the mess will be hot. I’m sure it won’t come to that (although there are enough boobies everywhere).

        Nevertheless, the answer should be the same - to raise 2 flights to patrol the air borders of the Russian Federation. It can be formalized as "surprise aviation exercises to suppress attempts to unauthorized crossing the air borders of the Russian Federation."
        1. VAF
          VAF 6 March 2014 13: 32
          +4
          Quote: Gxash

          Nevertheless, the answer should be the same - to raise 2 flights to patrol the air borders of the Russian Federation. It can be formalized as "surprise aviation exercises to suppress attempts to unauthorized crossing the air borders of the Russian Federation."


          Or maybe first to conduct the dispersal of forces and assets at aerodromes, on which it is necessary to equip AT and MT support facilities?

          And then you posted the "beautiful" list (which has nothing to do with reality soldier ).

          The 41st year ... reminds nothing by analogy? wink
          1. eagle11
            eagle11 7 March 2014 12: 13
            +1
            The people do not understand what there is such a thing as a resource and stocks of material resources. That the rise of two links "stupidly flying along the border", of course, will give the flight crew "manure", but will not give the "raid" provided for by the training plan, will eat up the resource and fuel.
    2. boom_bah
      boom_bah 6 March 2014 12: 14
      0
      In fact, "behind their backs" they will have everything that the BF has in the Kaliningrad region (I'm talking about the MA and air defense of the fleet). Believe me, this will be enough if there is no continuation.
    3. Serg 122
      Serg 122 6 March 2014 12: 59
      0
      Question - 10 fighters will save?
      Of course they will save! 10 pilots ... laughing
    4. eagle11
      eagle11 6 March 2014 13: 35
      +3
      Actually, there is no such aircraft F-15S, there is F-15C.
      Purely hypothetically, in the coming year, the F-15C and Su-35 will not even meet.
      Strengthening the advanced presence in the Baltic Sea is not done to repel air strikes, but to allow the interception of single aircraft, the organization of air watch and, possibly, the deployment of watch forces at more airfields.
      Whenever possible the transfer of troops and forces, the United States has no equal, there is something to learn.
      1. VAF
        VAF 6 March 2014 13: 47
        +4
        Quote: eagle11
        Whenever possible the transfer of troops and forces, the United States has no equal, there is something to learn.


        Colleague, not at the time such koment wassat The people are now in "euphoria" and as a result of this they see nothing and do not understand!
        so you just need to- " fellow ".. yes we have them now, etc.
        And you are here .. about "some" military art and tactics of the database lol
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 6 March 2014 17: 29
          +1
          Quote: vaf
          The people are now in "euphoria" and as a result of this they see nothing and do not understand!

          Serega, and see the horseradish here, we are on the eve of a grandiose schukher. Without warriors, Crimea will not be given to us, so URA or hurray (slowly) recourse
          1. VAF
            VAF 6 March 2014 19: 34
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            , we are on the eve of a grand schucher. Without warriors, Crimea will not be given to us, so URA or hurray (slowly)


            Yes, +! But ... after the "extreme" ACTIONS of Vladimir Vladimirovich good all this "pack" led by gayevropoy-zhik..bubble! wassat

            And Americans without NATa .... will spit saliva, but .. sit on the priest exactly! soldier
            1. eagle11
              eagle11 7 March 2014 12: 44
              0
              Shirsha must look. The world is big, our problems will very soon appear at a fast pace from the opposite edge, there is an opportunity to "bite off" on the sly.
        2. eagle11
          eagle11 7 March 2014 12: 41
          0
          So the people ask, so I answer. I just see the problem from a slightly different angle and know a little more than what is written in the media. For aviation, the "tactics of the DB" sounds a bit incorrect as for us: combat operations are a form of combat operations (butter)
          AIRLINE BOUNDARY: Combat operations of the Air Force associations are a set of coordinated and interconnected by purpose, tasks, place and time of air, air defense battles and battles, air strikes and special combat flights of air units and units, reconnaissance and information operations of military units and RTV units carried out according to plans Supreme Commander-in-Chief or Commander of the Troops of the Military District for the consistent solution of emerging operational, operational and tactical (tactical) tasks.
          TACTICS - an integral part of the art of war, encompassing
          the theory and practice of training and combat by units,
          mi and formations of various types of armed forces, combat arms (forces) and special
          All troops.
          Therefore, the tutorials are called "Connection tactics ...."
          Something more correct. wink
    5. RND
      RND 6 March 2014 14: 29
      0
      Quote: Gxash
      Interestingly - how many hypothetically can one unit of the SU-35, SU-27, or MiG-29 in an aerial combat F-15S bring down?
      In addition, they will have behind their backs:

      1st command of the Air Force and Air Defense of Russia in the ZVO:

      As of 2013 year
      1 Airborne Defense Brigade (S-300ПМ, С-300ПС complexes) - Severomorsk
      2-I aerospace defense brigade (S-300ПМ complexes) - Khvoyny, Krasnoe Selo, St. Petersburg
      3-I aerospace defense brigade
      7000 Guards Borisov-Pomeranian twice Red Banner Order of the Suvorov Mixed Aviation Division:
      455 SAP, Voronezh, aircraft Su-24MP, Su-34.
      159 Guards IAP, Besovets, Karelia, aircraft Su-27P, Su-27UB.
      98 Guards SAP, Monchegorsk, Murmansk region., Su-24М, Su-24МР, MiG-31БМ aircraft.
      790 Guards IAP, Khotilovo, Tver region., MiG-31DZ, MiG-31БМ, Su-27 aircraft.
      14 Guards IAP, Halino, Kursk, MiG-29СМТ planes.
      6 Air Group 7000 airbases: Levashovo, Leningrad Region, transport aircraft.
      800-I Red Banner Aviation (2-th category): Chkalovsky, Moscow Region, IL-76, Il-78, An-12, An-24, An-26, An-72, IL-18, IL-20, IL-22, An-140-100, Mi-8 helicopters.
      378 Air Army Base (2 discharge): Vyazma, Mi-24, Mi-8 helicopters.
      549 Air Army Base (2 level): Levashovo, Pribylovo, Leningrad Region, helicopters Mi-8, Mi-24.
      Engineering Battalion

      Question - 10 fighters will save? :)

      Allow me to fix it - 10 fighters TO RESCUE? hi
      1. 0255
        0255 6 March 2014 15: 02
        0
        Quote: RND

        Allow me to fix it - 10 fighters TO RESCUE? hi

        only by max flight. speeds of 2655 km / h at high altitude wassat
        Better to transfer F-22s there - cruising supersonic speed will help them when fleeing fellow
    6. Gost
      Gost 6 March 2014 16: 43
      +1
      But what about the Lipetsk air center?
  14. kelevra
    kelevra 6 March 2014 11: 26
    +7
    This proves once again that we are power and we are not just afraid, but respected!
  15. sazhka4
    sazhka4 6 March 2014 11: 30
    +6
    Quote: mountain
    These planes, like the last cartridge in a pistol, for suicide.

    Not a fact .. However, we still can .. Turn the planet into ashes anyone can .. But the goal is not at all ..
  16. fisherman
    fisherman 6 March 2014 11: 30
    +3
    The new Tor2m air defense system and the S-300ps air defense system of Belarus said :-) We are ready and can handle any number
  17. Wedmak
    Wedmak 6 March 2014 11: 31
    +4
    6 more fighters to protect sprat production? Or for their transportation? It is not clear from whom NATO was going to protect the unnecessary Balik.
    1. boom_bah
      boom_bah 6 March 2014 12: 17
      +2
      Stupid psychological pressure on Russia. Labuses are always ready to help, although no one will ask them.
  18. VADEL
    VADEL 6 March 2014 11: 31
    +3
    The Balts are nevertheless smarter than amers; they have ATVs for patrolling. laughing
    1. 0255
      0255 6 March 2014 13: 21
      0
      Quote: VADEL
      The Balts are nevertheless smarter than amers; they have ATVs for patrolling. laughing

      I wonder HOW will they use ATVs in a real war ?!
  19. zollstab
    zollstab 6 March 2014 11: 32
    +3
    The comments greatly amused the name of the country-SPOTLAND !!! laughing
  20. Capyar 48315
    Capyar 48315 6 March 2014 11: 50
    +2
    A dozen extra goals are not a problem for our air defense systems. Baltic airfields are an easy target for missiles - since there are few of them and they are close to the border. If they wanted real gain, the group would be strengthened away from the borders (and Kaliningrad Iskander). therefore, all these comrades are threats, and the situation is escalating.
  21. scientist
    scientist 6 March 2014 11: 53
    +2
    It is urgent to begin negotiations on a unified Eurasian missile defense system with the participation of China and Iran, as well as others who want to protect themselves from missile threats... And to call the Eurasian missile defense system "Jim" - let Kerry go into the analys, and the Americans will clearly know to whom and why they owe such good news.
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 6 March 2014 13: 03
      +1
      Better: "PRO Jimmy" ... wassat
  22. from punk
    from punk 6 March 2014 11: 54
    +2
    the whole point is that soon Jurmaline. and the Yankees are very fond of Dubovitskaya and Co. smile
  23. Duke
    Duke 6 March 2014 12: 07
    +2
    Su-27 vs two F-15s
    Fortunately, this is still a game.
    1. eagle11
      eagle11 6 March 2014 13: 41
      +2
      In Lock On, in a missile battle of 15, it easily copes with the 27th, especially with AIM-120 missiles
      1. 0255
        0255 6 March 2014 13: 46
        +2
        Quote: eagle11
        In Lock On, in a missile battle of 15, it easily copes with the 27th, especially with AIM-120 missiles

        game is one thing, real battle is another.
        1. 0255
          0255 6 March 2014 14: 08
          +3
          and minus for what? Am I wrong that the game and the real fight are two different things? belay
          1. VAF
            VAF 6 March 2014 17: 02
            +2
            Quote: 0255
            and minus for what? Am I wrong that the game and the real fight are two different things?


            You are absolutely right, +! But .. read the comment carefully "...15-ka, easily copes with the 27th, especially with AIM-120 missiles" wink
            I think it's not worth it to "continue" soldier

            But if you then manage to reduce the distance to the possibility of using the r-73M. Although the Amerovskaya 9X is the same ... well, it’s not bad recourse

            And then, finally, we move on to the distance of conducting highly maneuverable air combat using cannon weapons.

            Here, yes .. we are undoubtedly leaders soldier
            1. 0255
              0255 6 March 2014 17: 14
              +2
              But what about Russian long-range air-to-air missiles? How much better or worse are they in America?
              1. VAF
                VAF 6 March 2014 19: 38
                +1
                Quote: 0255
                But what about Russian long-range air-to-air missiles? How much better or worse are they in America?


                In light of possible "coming" events soldier let me leave your question unanswered .. request , no offence wink +! drinks
                1. 0255
                  0255 6 March 2014 20: 02
                  +1
                  unanswered so unanswered soldier
            2. wanderer_032
              wanderer_032 6 March 2014 18: 41
              +2
              But is it not easier then to lure amers under our air defense if their regular missiles do not play at long distances?
              1. VAF
                VAF 6 March 2014 19: 40
                +1
                Quote: wanderer_032
                But is it not easier then to lure amers under our air defense if their regular missiles do not play at long distances?


                "Easier" preemptive strike on ...... no one has "invented" wink + soldier
            3. eagle11
              eagle11 7 March 2014 12: 50
              0
              The American 9X is almost identical in characteristics to the 73M, but only in terms of preparation for launch, the 9X is much faster.
  24. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 6 March 2014 12: 09
    +2
    Wow, what kind of forces, well, all the guys are khan to us, I hope all the diapers are bought so that we don’t rely on laughter, well, we’re afraid of everything, now we’ll just sit under the broom like mice and bite our nails out of fear, or God forbid bombing will start with sprats and without oil, everyone was gone.
  25. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 6 March 2014 12: 10
    +3
    At the moment, this may not be so scary. Most likely we are ready for this. But it should be noted that the hostile bridgehead at our side zealously performs its function. And the Americans are threateningly expanding their sphere of influence, including already in Ukraine.
  26. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    Andrey Ulyanovsky 6 March 2014 12: 20
    0
    Yeah. There is already an article about the "asymmetric" answer (no less, though): http://vz.ru/news/2014/3/6/675821.html
  27. Garik
    Garik 6 March 2014 12: 28
    0
    I think the C400 complexes at the border will solve this issue. Another amerskoy near mind idea. Another zilch. Only the situation in the region is heated by driving weapons there.
    1. 0255
      0255 6 March 2014 13: 50
      +2
      Quote: Garik
      I think the C400 complexes at the border will solve this issue.

      S-400 will solve this issue somehow angry
  28. Leshka
    Leshka 6 March 2014 12: 44
    +4
    laugh laugh but the news is not very good
  29. Not served
    Not served 6 March 2014 12: 44
    +2
    I wonder if Obama and Putin can act like Khrushchev and Kennedy.
    1. RND
      RND 6 March 2014 14: 37
      0
      Quote: Didn't serve
      http://vz.ru/news/2014/3/6/675821.html

      Perhaps, but there is one, or rather two "buts".
      1. Putin is not as d *** ak as Khrushchev.
      2.Babama is not as smart as Kennedy.
  30. IOwTZ
    IOwTZ 6 March 2014 12: 48
    +1
    I really hope that at least one of them violates the airspace of Russia and will be shot down with lightning speed.
  31. Day 11
    Day 11 6 March 2014 12: 53
    +3
    Latvian army
    1. 0255
      0255 6 March 2014 13: 56
      +1
      their military themselves is not funny from service in such an army laughing ?
      1. uladzimir.surko
        uladzimir.surko 6 March 2014 15: 35
        +1
        Powerful! laughing or weakness! drinks
  32. TAMERLAN 7
    TAMERLAN 7 6 March 2014 13: 05
    +1
    Four more fighters performing the NATO mission in the Baltic states will be joined by six, as well as one KC-135 refueling aircraft. The build-up will occur as expected this week.

    Against the background of our teachings - 10 F-15, this ......... belay
    Maybe a dozen more F-22s and F-35s tossed, respected United States? We would have looked at their EPR .... No, it’s a shame for my power! am
    Ten F-15s! Guys, they don’t respect us! For decency and understanding (critical days in the USA), I agree to two hundred! laughing
    1. 0255
      0255 6 March 2014 13: 53
      +2
      Maybe a dozen more F-22s and F-35s tossed, respected United States? We would have looked at their EPR .... No, it’s a shame for my power!

      It is unlikely that they will now send them to the Baltic states, suddenly the Russian radar station will find them - then come up with an excuse for yourself why it happened wassat
      1. TAMERLAN 7
        TAMERLAN 7 6 March 2014 14: 13
        +1
        Quote: 0255
        suddenly the Russian radar detects them - then come up with an excuse for yourself why it happened

        As always, the Russian radar could not detect them, because it is impossible .....
        What? Have you discovered?
        Well ... They flew with reflectors!
        1. 0255
          0255 6 March 2014 14: 23
          +2
          They also said about the F-117 that it was impossible to detect it, let alone bring it down, well, it was completely impossible to do it until Zoltan Dani shot it with the help of the ancient S-125 air defense system
          1. TAMERLAN 7
            TAMERLAN 7 6 March 2014 14: 35
            +2
            Unsinkable - go to the bottom. Unlovers - are detected. Not knocked down - get off! And the old woman is a slammer! All these wunderwaffles can be destroyed! soldier
  33. Arh
    Arh 6 March 2014 13: 17
    +1
    The US policy is based on intimidation, they have already been bought by Russians and other countries! ! !
  34. Sultan
    Sultan 6 March 2014 13: 18
    +1
    Huh! Yankees climb to fight - "hold me seven!" Yeah, right now! The intestines are weak - the chair will be liquid. The dog barks, and the caravan moves on, and he'll give that dog a boot in the face ... Ay-yay!

    Foreign fighters inside Ukraine are another matter - here it will be the SHAH and MAT to the geostrategists of the West ... And now, let's see ...
  35. Simon
    Simon 6 March 2014 13: 33
    +1
    Our air defense team will soon be training, to launch missiles at live targets. lol soldier
  36. Stasi
    Stasi 6 March 2014 13: 36
    0
    All these 10 F-15s are just muscle-building for complacency. One, in the extreme case, two S-400 air defense systems is enough to leave no trace of this dozen, especially since these complexes will shoot through the entire Baltic space and we can shoot down phantoms even before entering our airspace.
  37. Lissyara
    Lissyara 6 March 2014 13: 38
    +1
    A bit of history. 30 August 2011
    During the NATO exercises, fighters of the Baltic Republic and France clashed in the sky over Lithuania during NATO exercises. Eyewitnesses suggest that the accident could have occurred due to great cloud cover. One of the unofficial versions is that a NATO fighter emerged from behind the clouds and hooked a Lithuanian Air Force plane wing. Czech-made lightweight L-39 Albatros attack aircraft fell into the swamp. Both pilots successfully ejected: one landed in the lake, the second in the forest. Later they were picked up by a Mi-8 Lithuanian Air Force rescue helicopter and transported to an air base. The French pilot managed to land his Mirage on its own.
    A similar incident for the Lithuanian army was the first in its history. The Lithuanian Defense Ministry and the French military contingent together intend to find out and thoroughly investigate all the circumstances of the disaster. A special commission has been created.
    1. RND
      RND 6 March 2014 14: 42
      +1
      A similar incident for the Lithuanian army was the first in its history.

      Haha And the last - the planes are over! laughing
  38. marder4
    marder4 6 March 2014 13: 47
    +1
    the Baltic states have some kind of paranoia - who needs them in FIGs to capture them ??? and a dozen F-15s are unlikely to make the weather in the sky ...
  39. Ima tsoh
    Ima tsoh 6 March 2014 14: 13
    +1
    This is the beginning of the creeping actions of the us and the west. But at a certain stage, Russia must be tough and adamant. Words by words but actions by actions. Or or. No other is given.
  40. Ima tsoh
    Ima tsoh 6 March 2014 14: 15
    0
    BUT WE ARE RIGHTS AND WE WILL OVERCOME THESE PARASITES OF HUMANITY
  41. Retvizan
    Retvizan 6 March 2014 14: 23
    +1
    Liquid such an answer to the launch of Poplar
  42. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 6 March 2014 14: 39
    0
    The Pentagon has decided to increase the number of fighters in the Baltic states.
    The main objectives of this grouping of the RK Iskander in the areas bordering the Baltic states, the Plesetsk cosmodrome, as well as other important strategic and tactical objects in those areas.
    This is also evidenced by technology. F-15 Strike Eagle aircraft are designed primarily for delivering air strikes against ground targets.
    The KS-135 flying tanker is definitely there to increase the range of the F-15S or so that they can hang in the air for a long time.
    If what I think, our pilots will push them what they value most.
    Air defense also does not sleep.
  43. Nayhas
    Nayhas 6 March 2014 16: 19
    +2
    F-15S in the Baltic, and also American? Did Saudi Arabia requisition something?
    No, I understand that the journalist to put it mildly hack, but gentlemen, commentators, haven't you really been confused by the letter S after the numeral 15?
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 6 March 2014 18: 36
      0
      Probably borrowed from the sheikhs. laughing
      Given that for the war in Syria, the SA was ready to pay for a military operation for the US Armed Forces, then why can not we assume that the SA could give part of its F-15S aircraft to the USAF in order to spoil Russia at its borders.
      Thus to arrange a small vile, nasty revenge of Russia for Syria?
      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 6 March 2014 18: 49
        0
        In addition, I found this info:

        04.04.12/15/XNUMX US begins modernization of Saudi Arabian Air Force F-XNUMXS fighters

        4 April 2012 city



        TSAMTO. The United States began the practical implementation of a program to upgrade the F-15S aircraft armed with the Saudi Arabian Air Force to the F-15SA version.



        On April 2, the US Department of Defense signed with Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control a contract worth $ 410,61 million for the supply of 95 suspended sniper targeting containers, 35 compact multi-band communication channels; 70 infrared target search and tracking systems (IRST), spare parts and 75 IRST pylons.



        Contract work should be completed by November 31, 2017.



        At the same time, an agreement worth $ 366,547 million was signed with BAe Systems for the supply of 70 digital electronic warfare systems (DEWS) / missile attack warning systems (CMWS), spare parts; three test stations DEWS / CMWS. Work under this contract should be completed by November 31, 2018.



        The contracts were signed in the framework of a request sent by Saudi Arabia in December 2010 for the supply of US weapons worth about $ 60 billion, which includes the purchase of 84 new F-15SA fighter jets, 70 AH-64D “block-3” Apache attack helicopters, 72 multi-purpose helicopters UH-60M Black Hawk; 12 light helicopters MD-530F, ammunition, communications and other equipment.



        The total cost of the requested delivery of 84 new F-15SA and modernization of 70 F-15S aircraft in service, as well as the sale of related systems and weapons for them, is estimated at 29,432 billion dollars.

        Source: http: //www.militaryparitet.com/ttp/data/ic_ttp/783/
        So access to the body, as they say, is available.
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 6 March 2014 18: 56
          0
          In addition, I found this video:



          If the infa is correct, then how could F-15S be in Alaska covering the AWACS, which "looks after" our TU-95 in those parts?
          In addition, the KS-135 tanker is also present here.
  44. Santor
    Santor 6 March 2014 17: 05
    +1
    Went to the middle of the bridge went down (through the Neman) asked the border guards of the adjacent side - Cho, right? The Lithuanians said yes, and added - we haven’t beaten these faces ....

    I report - they are based on the former USSR base in Šiauliai. And the Americans are not there, only Europeans are there. Because Americans were introduced as soon as they began to behave especially with women as in Bantustan. The result was that the Lithuanians drove the NATO all over Šiauliai. When they arrived from the base with all their might, including service staff, they fell in too ... After that, the Americans were not in Šiauliai. Germans, Dutch, Danes ... Maybe somewhere in Estonia or Latvia, but not in Lithuania.
  45. Santor
    Santor 6 March 2014 17: 27
    +1
    Quote: TAMERLAN 7
    Maybe a dozen more F-22 and F-35


    F-22 when trying to fly around Syrian territory received a rocket in the tail (indirect hit) and crashed when landing in Jordan .... More Americans did not send them ... And F-35 while flights are prohibited, a lot of small cracks appeared on the turbine blades , on the case, looking for reasons.
  46. supertiger21
    supertiger21 6 March 2014 17: 53
    0
    I read everything, not understanding only one thing - what kind of F-15S is in service with the United States? Modifications A, C I know, I also know the strike modification E. There is a prototype of the F-15SE fighter. There is also a Saudi modification "Strike Needle" - SA. But here I hear the index S for the first time.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 7 March 2014 00: 23
      0
      Quote: supertiger21
      I read everything, not understanding only one thing - what kind of F-15S is in service with the United States? Modifications A, C I know, I also know the strike modification E. There is a prototype of the F-15SE fighter. There is also a Saudi modification "Strike Needle" - SA. But here I hear the index S for the first time.

      F-15S is a variant of the F-15E for Saudi Arabia, this modification is in service only with it. A dumb journalist confuses S with C, he doesn't care ...
  47. DPN
    DPN 6 March 2014 18: 30
    0
    So we need to increase nuclear weapons off the coast of the United States, we get a mutual injection. What they want is to let them get it, you look and wean weary.