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Three emergency situations with Indian submarines revealed common causes

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The Indian Ministry of Defense officially announced, without going into details, about the reasons for the recent state of emergency on the diesel-electric submarine Sinduratna (INS Sindhuratna), where two people were killed and seven sailors were injured. The trouble with the neighbors is not foreign to Russia: the submarines of this class were built, and then they were repaired and modernized at the Russian shipyards.


The original version of the possible leakage of hydrogen from the Xinduratny battery was not confirmed. A visual inspection carried out after the return of the submarine to the berth did not reveal the alleged damage here. Instead, burnt and burnt cable tracks were found in the living compartment of the submarine. It was they who became the cause of the deadly smoke, according to an official report of the Indian Ministry of Defense.

But why the electric cables began to smoke and ignite, the investigation has yet to figure it out.

It is hardly possible to refer to their physical deterioration, because this submarine built in 1988 at the Russian shipyard "Krasnoye Sormovo" in Nizhny Novgorod (then in Gorky), at the beginning of 2000's, underwent a scheduled repair with an upgrade in the shed of SRZ " Star"

“And with such a repair,” the RG assured at the Severodvinsk shipyard, “all cable routes should be replaced with new ones.”

The same thing, we note, was done on the aircraft carrier "Vikramaditya", which was being repaired and refitted in the interests of the Indian Navy in the neighboring "Sevmash".

Shipbuilders with experience and submariner veterans who served on such or similar submarines are inclined to the general conclusion that the cable could be ignited due to improper operation of the equipment - in particular, its power overload or some kind of negligence in carrying out ongoing repairs.

Recall that the incident occurred on February 26, when Sinduratna was submerged 80 kilometers from its base in Mumbai and tested some of the ship’s systems after a brief dock repair at its home base. After the emergency, the submarine resurfaced and returned to the pier under its own power. In the first hours it was reported that seven submariners suffered, the fate of two is unknown. A day later, the Hindustan Times, citing the command of the Indian Navy, said: these two officers from the Sinduratna crew died and their bodies "were discovered during a search and rescue operation."

The head of the combined headquarters of the Indian Navy, Admiral Devendra Kumar Joshi, who learned of the incident earlier than the others, immediately resigned. And in the government, despite the fact that the powers of the Commander-in-Chief Joshi expire only in 2015, this gesture was accepted. Such a rapid personnel decision can probably be explained by the fact that in one incomplete year this is already the third serious incident with the submarines of the Indian Navy.

Seven months ago, in August 2013-th, in the same port of Mumbai, where the injured Sinduratna is now located, an explosion occurred on board a similar submarine, Sindurakshak (INS Sindhurakshak). Then 18 military sailors died, and the boat itself sank and has not yet been raised. The most likely cause of the explosion is the operator's error when loading ammunition, which could cause their detonation.

Five months later, in January of this year, while performing training tasks, the team of the Sindhugosh DPL (INS Sindhughosh) gave a blunder - apparently, as a result of a navigation error, the submarine ran aground. No injuries or possible ship damage were reported. But all this taken together seems to have forced Admiral Joshi to resign and the command of the Indian Navy to conduct a thorough investigation of all incidents.

Meanwhile

The Indian branch of the American company Resolve Marine Group (RMG) will lift the sunken 14 on August 2013 of the Sindurakshak submarine. He beat four other bidders in the tender, and the Indian Navy has already signed a contract with the company. At the place of the future operation, the corresponding equipment is being delivered and prepared for operation. The submarine lies at a shallow depth - only eight meters, but the upcoming operation is complicated by the fact that cruise missiles and torpedoes remain on board the Sindurakshak submarine.
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  1. Tumbleweed
    Tumbleweed 6 March 2014 10: 49
    +9
    It seems the Hindus teapots carry with them, like Soviet tourists before ... Posting and can not stand it. Generally uglier than the Indians in the operation of technology, probably only Arabs ...
    So there are one reason for 3 emergency situations: the Indian operator
    1. major071
      major071 6 March 2014 10: 54
      +18
      I always believed and still think that an untrained soldier (sailor) will do more harm than the enemy. hi
      1. avt
        avt 6 March 2014 10: 59
        +2
        Quote: major071
        I always believed and still think that an untrained soldier (sailor) will do more harm than the enemy.

        Wow! This can be ... fucked up - not a single saboteur can think of it.
      2. StolzSS
        StolzSS 6 March 2014 18: 37
        +1
        Yes, I’ve already seen this in my life when I worked on repairs at Kuz ... forever there will be a smart-ass sailor who will screw something up on the electrics in the cockpit ... his mother is like that ... am
    2. jjj
      jjj 6 March 2014 10: 56
      +3
      Quote: tumbleweed
      It seems the Indians teapots carry with them

      Boilers. And if without jokes, then it turns out that the closure suits
      1. jjj
        jjj 6 March 2014 10: 58
        0
        "Sinduvir" means it still holds
    3. Good cat
      Good cat 6 March 2014 10: 59
      +3
      Nah, not teapots, home-made boilers from 2 blades for a safety razor)))
    4. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 6 March 2014 14: 10
      0
      Quote: rolling the field
      It seems the Hindus teapots carry with them, like Soviet tourists before ... Posting and can not stand it. Generally uglier than the Indians in the operation of technology, probably only Arabs ...
      So there are one reason for 3 emergency situations: the Indian operator


      In my opinion, on the contrary - the "kettle" is left at home, and in the evening they put it back on and start eating into it.

      As I understand it, the Americans will get a copy of the new cruise missile on the ball ... well, after the lift, of course it turns out that it exploded with the rest ...
    5. muginov2015
      muginov2015 6 March 2014 15: 09
      0
      subscribe to every word
  2. svp67
    svp67 6 March 2014 10: 54
    +1
    Three emergency situations with Indian submarines revealed common causes
    and they still have not studied the materiel ..
    1. papas-57
      papas-57 6 March 2014 19: 22
      0
      `` and they still haven't studied the materiel. '' But they got the form, which is cooler than the materiel.
    2. papas-57
      papas-57 6 March 2014 19: 22
      0
      `` and they still haven't studied the materiel. '' But they got the form, which is cooler than the materiel.
  3. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 6 March 2014 10: 54
    +2
    In turbaned head overheats clearly ..))) laughing
    1. jjj
      jjj 6 March 2014 11: 01
      +2
      In turbaned - these are the most suitable for military affairs
  4. avt
    avt 6 March 2014 10: 57
    +1
    Quote: tumbleweed
    It seems the Hindus teapots carry with them, like Soviet tourists before ..

    Immediately obvious - not in the subject, as they are now expressed. What are the teapots!? BOILERS! This is young not to understand, it’s practically a saboteur’s weapon. laughing
    1. upasika1918
      upasika1918 6 March 2014 11: 23
      +1
      How do they find out about boilers. They are not even in Hollywood films about us. Discovery Channel? This device is unknown to them in principle.
      1. major071
        major071 6 March 2014 12: 06
        +7
        Two blades "Neva", four matches
        And the black thread is not a big skein
        And with this canoe so you can "nahimichit"
        That without "straining" you will get boiling water! laughing
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 6 March 2014 15: 19
          +1
          Quote: major071
          Two blades "Neva", four matches

          laughing
          Vladimir - good
          Bulbul is a universal means of both the survival of all "people" and ... of the destruction of all "electricity".

          By the way, there is experience (not recommended):
          Cloth hacksaws for metal and wooden blocks. The canvas is divided into 4 parts (two on one wire, two on the other). A liter of water boils in ... 40 seconds.
          But ... you should have heard this rumble and ... how the wires didn’t melt and we didn’t knock out all the equipment - the babai knows it.
          In general - they threw him to hell.

          Better blades "neva" have not yet come up with anything.
          yes
          laughing
          ..................................

          This is so ... just reading someone no time sorry:
          http://topwar.ru/18478-posylka-ili-novye-priklyucheniya-bulbulyatora-v-narodnom-
          kotelke.html
        2. avt
          avt 6 March 2014 16: 17
          +1
          Quote: major071
          Two blades "Neva", four matches
          And the black thread is not a big skein
          And with this canoe so you can "nahimichit"
          That without "straining" you will get boiling water!

          You are this ... You are that ... I will ask you not to express yourself! laughing That’s how they’ll close the site. Fail under terrorism, teach more ... laughing
          Quote: Aleks tv
          Cloth hacksaws for metal and wooden blocks. The canvas is divided into 4 parts (two on one wire, two on the other). A liter of water boils in ... 40 seconds.

          Not, well, one more, and even with illustrations! bully And in Tyure I saw a product from a soldier’s buckle. drinks
          1. Aleks tv
            Aleks tv 6 March 2014 16: 25
            +1
            Quote: avt
            Not, well, one more, and even with illustrations!

            yes yes yes

            Greetings avt.
            hi
            nostalgia, sir, fuck her ...
  5. avg
    avg 6 March 2014 10: 58
    +1
    Quote: tumbleweed
    It seems the Indians teapots carry with them

    Or 3 kW boilers per crew member
    Quote: tumbleweed
    So there are one reason for 3 emergency situations: the Indian operator

    That is why the French did not agree to take responsibility for the rafals collected by the Indians.
  6. Gagarin
    Gagarin 6 March 2014 11: 04
    +2
    POWER CABLE OVERLOAD - no further investigation needed.
    This is the key phrase - they bought a boat at a discount, with a minimum of equipment, a LITTLE added their own (a colleague tells about electric boilers
  7. rasputin17
    rasputin17 6 March 2014 11: 09
    +1
    With an ugly attitude to the technology of the Indians, saying that they are submariners is the same as arguing about blacks as excellent hockey players!
  8. VADEL
    VADEL 6 March 2014 11: 10
    0
    Hindus have to learn how to swim and dive in empty pools, and then let them into the submarine.
  9. Ruswolf
    Ruswolf 6 March 2014 11: 12
    +1
    The initially put forward version of a possible leak of hydrogen from the Sinduratna storage battery has not received confirmation.


    Since it was found that there was a leak of brain fluid.
    Regarding this version - No rebuttals!
  10. koksalek
    koksalek 6 March 2014 11: 45
    +1
    Somehow in his youth, having zero knowledge of electrics, but being in the winter in an old dormitory for 3 months, they decided to warm themselves up with a guy (the chill was in the rooms). We bought some pair of wires about 10 meters, turned on the spiral from the electric tile (who remembers there were such household ones with a spiral outside). Half an hour was good, warm, but then everything went out and electricians rolled in, I don’t bring the ending. Then he made friends with electrical equipment and remembered the lesson. Something like this, by the way about submarines, do not kick.
  11. TAMERLAN 7
    TAMERLAN 7 6 March 2014 12: 13
    +2
    The trouble is that it causes irreparable damage to our image! It is necessary to understand the reasons! If they do not know how to handle the equipment - teach! Our competitors must not be allowed to throw dirt on us and discredit our equipment!
  12. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 6 March 2014 12: 35
    0
    So what are the common reasons, I did not understand. Human factor?
  13. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 6 March 2014 12: 48
    0
    The only way to blame us is to reduce the cable cross-section during repairs. I think this is almost unrealistic. So they didn’t let anyone into the boat after the fire because they removed bugs wound instead of fuses and machine guns on the ampere horseradish. In general, the diagnosis is clear.
  14. 120352
    120352 6 March 2014 13: 03
    0
    The reason may also be that some Russian words, for example, CREMALIER, are not translated into their language.
  15. bubla5
    bubla5 6 March 2014 14: 12
    0
    Please tell me, I don’t know why the cabin of submarines is made of many steel plates, from solid metal is it easier to pile the hull
    1. muginov2015
      muginov2015 6 March 2014 15: 15
      0
      I think there is no need, because felling initially does not require tightness. Felling is separate, the hull is separate and separated by a pressure seal, something like that, in my opinion (from what I learned from Pokrovsky and friends of submariners. And maybe I'm wrong
  16. melman
    melman 6 March 2014 15: 12
    0
    Well, if you ruin the weapons of our production, then what a curvature should be your hands!
  17. AlexxxNik
    AlexxxNik 6 March 2014 15: 26
    0
    I don’t know how military shipyards have, but civilians have a habit of replacing Soviet-made cables with cheap Chinese ones, operating experience shows that some of their brands, at the same cross-sections, get hotter and quicker to dry out, of course it is unlikely that they would have time to dry out, but they would overdo it they could, the switching equipment is powerless to a short circuit, but you can’t write about our smoke alarm systems without mats, they either give false or are silent. I hope this is not confirmed, too obvious.
  18. paul72
    paul72 6 March 2014 16: 07
    0
    it wasn’t about a woman
  19. serg2.72
    serg2.72 6 March 2014 16: 55
    0
    In fairness, it is worth noting that correctly calculated depending on the load, short-circuit current, etc. cable cross-section, thermal and short-circuit settings of automatic machines or other switching equipment, in most cases will not allow any overheating and fires. And here is the slovenliness of the exploiters, that is, tests of automatic machines, various protections that were not carried out on time, periodically non-conductive measurements of contacts for heating, etc., as well as installation during repairs of automatic machines with different values ​​of protection currents, bypassing protection, installing bugs and etc., all this leads to overheating and cable ignition. Of course, provided that the cable also corresponds to the calculations.