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Vladivostok is at sea!

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5 March 2014 of the year in Saint-Nazaire took place the first way to sea of ​​factory trials built by the French shipyard STX France for the Russian Navy landing helicopter docking ship "Vladivostok" - the head of the two Mistral ships ordered under the 2011 of the year.


Vladivostok is at sea!





The amphibious assault ship dock "Vladivostok" goes to factory running tests.
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  1. Gxash
    Gxash 6 March 2014 10: 45
    +17
    7 feet under the keel!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 March 2014 10: 50
      +28
      And three years did not pass and the ship at sea. About ours, as I recall. ********* and what would you ***** sad
      1. svp67
        svp67 6 March 2014 10: 56
        +7
        I agree ... but the "closet" is still the same ...
      2. Rustam
        Rustam 6 March 2014 11: 01
        +10
        Pretty Boy

        How long have I been waiting for this))) all systems starting from the Vampire, ending with the Talesovsky radars and so on, the mask is smoking - hello to all enemies
        1. Pimply
          Pimply 6 March 2014 11: 50
          0
          Yeah. Only if they do not block its supply, the probability of which is high enough
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 6 March 2014 12: 02
            +3
            Why block? In this connection? With the events in the Crimea? And what side will they tie it to the Mistrals?
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 6 March 2014 13: 02
              +1
              Quote: Wedmak
              Why block? In this connection? With the events in the Crimea? And what side will they tie it to the Mistrals?

              The arms embargo may include suspension under contracts. Moreover, already paid deliveries without a refund. Deal freezes
              1. krpmlws
                krpmlws 6 March 2014 13: 45
                0
                Quote: Pimply
                Quote: Wedmak
                Why block? In this connection? With the events in the Crimea? And what side will they tie it to the Mistrals?

                The arms embargo may include suspension under contracts. Moreover, already paid deliveries without a refund. Deal freezes

                Russia may impose retaliatory sanctions, the boomerang effect. How many European and Amer’s businesses do we have here? They have come up with an embargo. Business is business, nothing personal.
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 6 March 2014 14: 29
                  -1
                  Quote: krpmlws
                  Russia may impose retaliatory sanctions, the boomerang effect. How many European and Amer’s businesses do we have here? They have come up with an embargo. Business is business, nothing personal.

                  Relatively little. On the military embargo - yes, it is likely.
              2. Geisenberg
                Geisenberg 6 March 2014 14: 07
                +2
                Quote: Pimply
                Quote: Wedmak
                Why block? In this connection? With the events in the Crimea? And what side will they tie it to the Mistrals?

                The arms embargo may include suspension under contracts. Moreover, already paid deliveries without a refund. Deal freezes


                The UN embargo can only be introduced by the UN, and if France dares it, it will wash off with snot later ...
                1. Pimply
                  Pimply 6 March 2014 14: 30
                  0
                  Quote: Geisenberg
                  The UN embargo can only be introduced by the UN, and if France dares it, it will wash off with snot later ...

                  Talk nonsense. Any country may impose an arms embargo on another country. For example, Western countries have held an arms embargo since 1989 against China.
            2. andrejwz
              andrejwz 6 March 2014 15: 25
              0
              Quote: Wedmak
              Why block? In this connection? With the events in the Crimea? And what side will they tie it to the Mistrals?

              Because the minister ordering a long-term and expensive project in the country, a NATO member is already a warrior. Most likely due to negligence, true.
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 6 March 2014 12: 02
            +3
            Quote: Pimply
            Only if they do not block its delivery,

            It smells more in France, there is too much of their business here.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 6 March 2014 13: 03
              0
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              It smells more in France, there is too much of their business here.

              How to say, how to say. Matrices, helmets and much more from there still go - this is only for the military commissar
          3. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 6 March 2014 14: 06
            0
            Quote: Pimply
            Yeah. Only if they do not block its supply, the probability of which is high enough


            From an oak tree collapsed ??? Money paid already.
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 6 March 2014 14: 34
              +1
              Quote: Geisenberg
              From an oak tree collapsed ??? Money paid already.


              Feather. Do not be rude. You and I didn’t go over to you, we didn’t serve together, and we didn’t drink at the Brudershaft either.

              The second one. I can cite a dozen or two more examples where already paid military supplies were frozen. The same France for Israel in 1964 - boats (which the Israelis later trite stolen). F-16 fighters for Pakistan. Arms supplies for Tehran after the change of the shah regime to the Islamist one. Examples of dozens, if not hundreds
        2. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 6 March 2014 14: 05
          +2
          Quote: Rustam
          Pretty Boy

          How long have I been waiting for this))) all systems starting from the Vampire, ending with the Talesovsky radars and so on, the mask is smoking - hello to all enemies



          Truly my words. Handsome, not a ship. Power in the flesh ... and for him there will be work.
      3. dmitrich
        dmitrich 6 March 2014 14: 05
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And three years did not pass and the ship at sea. About ours, as I recall. ********* and what would you ***** sad

        the stern of the ship was built in Russia.
    2. Civil
      Civil 6 March 2014 11: 05
      +2
      In light of recent events, the "bookmark" will be 100%
      1. Orik
        Orik 6 March 2014 12: 25
        +1
        Quote: Civil
        In light of recent events, the "bookmark" will be 100%

        Even without events, you shouldn't trust your "partners", got fucked and thrown.
        1. Civil
          Civil 6 March 2014 20: 48
          0
          Quote: Orik
          Quote: Civil
          In light of recent events, the "bookmark" will be 100%

          Even without events, you shouldn't trust your "partners", got fucked and thrown.

          Strange way of thinking .. in this case, yes)
  2. darksoul
    darksoul 6 March 2014 10: 46
    +8
    let us criticize the address of this beautiful ship, replenishment in the Navy we really need, in the course of recent events
    1. aktanir
      aktanir 6 March 2014 11: 02
      +5
      Right! Beautiful huge colossus, can accommodate a lot of soldiers and equipment. Ours would have been built since the age of five. Such speed and coherence in the construction of this class of ship did not expect. For our shipbuilders, it really should be very revealing.
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 6 March 2014 13: 15
        0
        Grandmas - everyone needs them! The faster they do it, the faster they get it. Simple math
        1. krpmlws
          krpmlws 6 March 2014 13: 53
          0
          Quote: Serg 122
          Grandmas - everyone needs them! The faster they do it, the faster they get it. Simple math

          But for some reason, it’s not like we have with people: the longer you build, the more you get the budget. There are no sanctions for you, there are always a lot of excuses.
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          2. PSih2097
            PSih2097 6 March 2014 16: 57
            0
            Quote: krpmlws
            Quote: Serg 122
            Grandmas - everyone needs them! The faster they do it, the faster they get it. Simple math

            But for some reason, it’s not like we have with people: the longer you build, the more you get the budget. There are no sanctions for you, there are always a lot of excuses.

            Well, as Putin said - "it's not 37 years old in our yard," but yes, they would rivet like pies ...
  3. erased
    erased 6 March 2014 10: 48
    +8
    Here is such a toy, accompanied by a cover vessel, and must be sent to the Crimea. Let him work in his specialty.
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 6 March 2014 10: 57
      0
      Quote: erased
      Here is such a toy, accompanied by a cover vessel, and must be sent to the Crimea. Let him work in his specialty.

      Also thought about it ..)))
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 6 March 2014 13: 16
        0
        Here is such a toy, accompanied by a cover vessel, and must be sent to the Crimea.
        And what? From France tea is not very far
  4. avt
    avt 6 March 2014 10: 49
    +3
    Quote: Gxash
    7 feet under the keel!

    good drinks And a fair wind. Against the backdrop of the amphibious assault remaining from the USSR, which the fleet desperately needs, this is a bargain, so there really isn’t a polemic about the need for a ship.
  5. little man
    little man 6 March 2014 10: 49
    +6
    This makes me happy drinks
    Already not as ugly as it seemed at first. Get used to it. smile
  6. Perm59rus
    Perm59rus 6 March 2014 10: 51
    +6
    Let's see how this beast takes root with us:) Although the eye hurts, some galosh :))
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    2. creak
      creak 6 March 2014 11: 17
      +9
      And this is not a torpedo boat, it has different functions ... What a manner of some "experts" to find fault with not understanding the essence of the matter - according to their logic, it would be better to have this ship as part of our Navy at all, but not to order abroad. And the fact that their shipyards cannot cover the needs of the Navy is unimportant, the principle is more expensive ... In which case, we will beat the enemy with the principles of modern ships or is it better?
      1. from punk
        from punk 6 March 2014 19: 13
        0
        wait, he will still grow in arms
    3. cros
      cros 6 March 2014 11: 21
      -6
      A magnificent target. A thunderstorm off the coast of Africa if a US aircraft carrier does not appear nearby.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 6 March 2014 11: 36
        +6
        A thunderstorm off the coast of Africa unless a U.S. aircraft carrier appears nearby

        You either or pretend. Compare an aircraft carrier with a landing dock ship. Let's compare the Kirovets tractor with the Bugatti?
        Threat.
        If an aircraft carrier goes alone, he is also an excellent target for anti-ship missiles. He has only near air defense, planes are not a fact that they can bring down a missile. So that...
      2. PSih2097
        PSih2097 6 March 2014 16: 45
        +1
        Quote: Cross
        A magnificent target. A thunderstorm off the coast of Africa if a US aircraft carrier does not appear nearby.

        UDC also does not go alone ... laughing
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  7. Greenwood
    Greenwood 6 March 2014 10: 57
    +4
    Mdya, we would have been building for 10 years.
  8. muginov2015
    muginov2015 6 March 2014 10: 59
    -8
    yes, this barge only scares the Papuans. In a serious mess, one rocket in the barrel and, it’s a pity there will be missing helicopters
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 6 March 2014 11: 19
      +5
      This barge is not intended for serious trouble. This is just a transport with turntables.
      1. muginov2015
        muginov2015 6 March 2014 12: 42
        -2
        Yes, yes, it is necessary to warn the probable adversary about it, otherwise it’s a shmold with a fright
        1. Serg65
          Serg65 6 March 2014 13: 40
          +4
          Quote: muginov2015
          Yes, yes, it is necessary to warn the probable adversary about it, otherwise it’s a shmold with a fright


          Dear, can you name the ship, which in a serious mess, and with a missile in the Bochin will be able to fully fight ??? Aircraft carrier? Cruiser? Destroyer? ... what?
          1. muginov2015
            muginov2015 6 March 2014 14: 44
            -1
            In order to prevent such an incident from happening, the aircraft carrier is surrounded by a whole escort camarilla and it is not known which is more expensive. Can enlighten me about the tactics of using this "naked king". At least I have been looking for answers on the forums of professional sailors for a long time, - so many pro-so many opinions. Most of them spit and curse
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 6 March 2014 15: 15
              +9
              Richat, I'm wildly sorry, but which pros are you asking? Take, for example, the Moskva KR, in my naval life "Slava", the sailors unambiguously said "krasava", the sailors of the UVF called it a trough, why trough-loading of missiles took 12-16 hours and it was not so long for them to hang around the side of the cruiser interesting. What does a naked ship mean? Let's take the most popular at the present time Russian BDK project 775, weapons also do not shine! And he shouldn't be armed like a battleship! The tactics of use are primitive - delivery and disembarkation of the assault force, and in the presence of 16 helicopters, also the landing of the assault force without entering the ship's affected area. Well, at the expense of spitting and obscenities, it is not a pro. pros right now, any ship should be happy, especially a modern one soldier
              1. muginov2015
                muginov2015 6 March 2014 15: 31
                0
                Sergey, I think the comparison with the BKD and the Kyrgyz Republic is incorrect — for the purpose and task. It is about how to protect such a large-scale object in a collision with a real enemy. And agree - this will be the main goal for the enemy. Moreover, the experience of using similar equipment in us, as far as I know, no
                1. Serg65
                  Serg65 7 March 2014 09: 20
                  +3
                  Oh, Rishat buddy, what is incorrect for a cruise missile? That this iron, that that iron! The question of protecting the UDC, I think that already 70 years ago, it was resolved, will be protected in the same way as "Kuznetsov" and "Peter the Great". Have you ever participated in a landing party? In the order, whoever is not present and KFOR, BDK, and IPC, BOD, EM, MRK, SKR, and also a technical support squad! So what is it about?
          2. PSih2097
            PSih2097 6 March 2014 16: 36
            0
            Quote: Serg65
            Quote: muginov2015
            Yes, yes, it is necessary to warn the probable adversary about it, otherwise it’s a shmold with a fright


            Dear, can you name the ship, which in a serious mess, and with a missile in the Bochin will be able to fully fight ??? Aircraft carrier? Cruiser? Destroyer? ... what?

            with one missile on board the first two for sure, but if with two or more, then depending on where they go ...
            1. Serg65
              Serg65 7 March 2014 09: 40
              +3
              [Quote] [/ quote]
              with one missile on board the first two for sure, but if with two or more, then depending on where they go ... [/ quote]

              In 1952, shocking test results of the KS-1 Comet rocket were obtained - a two-ton blank at transonic speed pierced the interior of the Krasny Kavkaz cruiser, and the subsequent explosion of the warhead literally tore the ship in half.
              We will never know the exact place of impact of the "Kometa" - there is still debate about whether the main 100-mm armor belt of the "Krasny Kavkaz" was pierced or the missile passed below. There are testimonies of witnesses that this was far from the first test - before its death, the old cruiser served as a target for "Comets" with an inert warhead. "Comets" pierced the cruiser through and through, while traces of their stabilizers remained on the internal bulkheads! "Krasny Kavkaz" is not modern ships with a 20 mm side!
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  9. Capyar 48315
    Capyar 48315 6 March 2014 10: 59
    +4
    Great news! I am not a fan of mistrals and would prefer to see in its place an amphibious "semi-aircraft carrier" of the Australian type (yesterday there was a note). But the "Vladivostok" will greatly strengthen our positions in the Far East in the conditions of a low density of garrisons with a long coastline.
  10. Wedmak
    Wedmak 6 March 2014 11: 00
    +9
    Yes, now it would be useful to transfer a brigade of polite people in uniform and equipment. smile
  11. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 6 March 2014 11: 01
    +1
    It resembles a brabus with the aerodynamics of a refrigerator ... in a word, a paddling pool ... Okay, there’s nothing to be done to come in handy anyway ...
    1. Gxash
      Gxash 6 March 2014 11: 11
      +3
      Even a light torpedo boat will come in handy if you lock! And the Mistral is both a large landing base (450 marines) and transport, ready to send 16 heavy Ka-52 combat helicopters to the sky, ready to conduct combat operations in any conditions.

      So this is a good help when conducting military operations when landing on a hostile coast.

      In addition, I am sure that our people will take it as a basis, correct (improve) something and assemble it themselves. Shows like "You stole our idea" in this case are not canned - the design is different.
      1. Pimply
        Pimply 6 March 2014 11: 52
        +3
        Quote: Gxash
        Even a light torpedo boat will come in handy if you lock! And the Mistral is both a large landing base (450 marines) and transport, ready to send 16 heavy Ka-52 combat helicopters to the sky, ready to conduct combat operations in any conditions.

        And this is an ultra-modern hospital, and, most importantly, the coordination headquarters
  12. Wiruz
    Wiruz 6 March 2014 11: 17
    +1
    In the third photo there are some smudges of rust on the port side. But he just went to sea. what
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 6 March 2014 11: 22
      +4
      This is not rust, these are traces of drying water with salts dissolved in it. The ocean is salty.
    2. Serg 122
      Serg 122 6 March 2014 13: 19
      0
      This is not rust! This is a tan! laughing
  13. Wiruz
    Wiruz 6 March 2014 11: 18
    0
    Generally a good ship, despite the fact that it is so fiercely criticized. But I hope that in the future development of the Russian fleet, their UDCs will also be built.
  14. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 6 March 2014 11: 55
    +2
    Handsome man! that’s where the stuffing is going to be cooler, in general, the price would not have been the protection of a type of missile defense radar and the like.
  15. TAMERLAN 7
    TAMERLAN 7 6 March 2014 12: 01
    +2
    Great news! Buying ships abroad is not the first time for us! Although, for us, better than our ships, still no! Kayaking with our Frenchmen!
    Gloriously served the Russian French.
    French "Tsarevich", he is "Citizen". On its basis, "Borodino" was created.

    Frenchman "Bayan"
    1. Duke
      Duke 6 March 2014 12: 19
      +1
      Great news! Buying ships abroad is not the first time for us! Although, for us, better than our ships, still no!

      The Varangian was also built in America.
      1. TAMERLAN 7
        TAMERLAN 7 6 March 2014 16: 03
        0
        Do you offer to buy an aircraft carrier from the USA (they just thought about reduction)? laughing
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        2. PSih2097
          PSih2097 6 March 2014 16: 29
          0
          Quote: TAMERLAN 7
          Do you offer to buy an aircraft carrier from the USA (they just thought about reduction)? laughing

          No, it is better to re-preserve "Kutuzov" and send it to the Crimea, and even better to Odessa or Nikolaev to demonstrate the GK on a friendly visit ...
  16. moremansf
    moremansf 6 March 2014 12: 05
    +5
    The replenishment of the Russian fleet is extremely important during the period of geopolitical events in the world !!! The fleet will not fail !!!
    1. muginov2015
      muginov2015 6 March 2014 12: 45
      +2
      I'm afraid to ask, what is the thickness of this side vessel?
      1. little man
        little man 6 March 2014 13: 19
        0
        About two months ago, in the topic of the fleet, Oleg laid out an article about booking ships. The polemic was interesting - look.
        1. muginov2015
          muginov2015 6 March 2014 14: 46
          0
          Yes, I purely rhetorically asked. For zealous fans. And so it’s clear, cardboard ... And by the way I read the article.
      2. Wedmak
        Wedmak 6 March 2014 14: 49
        0
        Small. There is no reservation there. It can withstand bullets of 14.5 and can withstand it, but any sea gun over 30 mm can easily penetrate.
        1. muginov2015
          muginov2015 6 March 2014 14: 58
          0
          So I did the same - if I noticed, Uncle the Witcher
        2. Pimply
          Pimply 6 March 2014 14: 59
          -1
          And the meaning of this reservation there?
          1. muginov2015
            muginov2015 6 March 2014 15: 18
            0
            Absolutely no! The trick is that this miracle should be part of the combat formation of escort ships, which no one still knows and where to get them, too. Yeshkin cat, ground airfields are surrounded by an air defense belt, and why they offended this canned food
      3. Nayhas
        Nayhas 6 March 2014 15: 53
        +1
        Quote: muginov2015
        I'm afraid to ask, what is the thickness of this side vessel?

        In the sense of the thickness of metal sheets? Not more than 20mm.
      4. TAMERLAN 7
        TAMERLAN 7 6 March 2014 16: 05
        -1
        Built according to "civilian standards" (badge-fly)! recourse
  17. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 6 March 2014 12: 39
    +2
    Handsome. Seven feet under the keel!
  18. 120352
    120352 6 March 2014 13: 08
    -2
    Convenient target: large and slow.
    1. muginov2015
      muginov2015 6 March 2014 15: 05
      -2
      Yeah, yeah, and most importantly fat! And how many babos have been welded together with the innocent Smerdyukov!
  19. bomg.77
    bomg.77 6 March 2014 15: 20
    +1
    Quickly, whatever you say! Our people would rivet the court.
    For fun! Jewelery parking of a Turkish vessel tin !!!
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 6 March 2014 15: 56
      +1
      Quote: bomg.77
      For fun! Jewelery parking of a Turkish vessel tin !!!

      I don’t see anything funny ... The ship came to die ... Beautifully, of course, you will not say anything ... But it’s sad ...
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 7 March 2014 12: 21
        0
        Quote: Nayhas
        I don’t see anything fun ... The ship came to die ..
        The main thing is how! And from death, no one and nothing will escape.
  20. PSih2097
    PSih2097 6 March 2014 16: 33
    +2
    By the way, what are our people doing there in Nikolaev ??? It was necessary not to drag the CD "Admiral Lobov" (Ukraine) on the sly (Well, like for writing off part of the debt, say for $ 1) ???