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Putin and reality

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Putin and realityWest in shock. Around the same as the Horde Khan Akhmat was, upon learning that Prince Ivan of Moscow the Third was refusing to pay tribute. Of course, Western politicians are increasingly confronted with the “willfulness” of Putin’s Russia, but in order to openly express disregard for the “Washington Regional Committee” - they have managed to wean it completely over the past twenty years.


Recently, the New York Times published, and the liberal media, including the Russian ones, rushed to comment on the statement by Chancellor Angela Merkel, who seemed to have sounded in her telephone conversation with Obama about the recent telephone conversation between the head of the FRG government and Vladimir Putin. According to the New York Times, Frau Merkel said something like the following: Putin "is in another world" and she is not sure if he has lost touch with reality.

One could be indignant, but if you look at it from the other side, then that is exactly how it is. With a small amendment: Putin (and along with Russia) have ceased to take for granted the reality created by the West and did not want to dwell in the world created by the West. For, in the eyes of Western leaders and the transnational oligarchy behind them, the only possible reality today is a world in which they - and only they - decide who should develop and die, to whom and what should belong, when and where to replace just the president loyal to the West at the next hijacker chewing on a tie. The world in which the power of law has long been replaced by the law of force, and the right to use this force also completely belongs to them - the “masters” of this world. As well as the monopoly on the truth, on the definition of who is "freedom fighters" and who are "rebels and separatists".

The recent psychosis in the West involuntarily comes to mind about the allegedly violated rights of sexual perverts in Russia who are not allowed to promote their lifestyle among children and do not register “same-sex marriages”. It would seem, why is it in the US and the EU so excited? Of course, not because of gay lovers. No, the West was shocked by the fact of disobedience. How did Russia dare to “have its own judgment”, since the decisions binding on all in Washington and Brussels have already been taken ?! That is what was perceived in the West as unheard of audacity and "loss of connection with reality." With their reality.

All traditional societies were based on the order of things natural for major cultures and religions. According to which, the priority that set the goals of the development of society was the spirituality, values ​​and world outlook characteristic of this nation. And already "below" was formed the system of production and consumption of material goods. In the 20th century, after the two world wars, the Anglo-Saxon civilization finally crushed the continental Western European civilization, forming a single "West", and turned the pyramid of values. Upstairs - the production and consumption of material goods. Derivatives from this - interpersonal relations and culture, largely became a kind of paid services. And somewhere at the very bottom - substantiating this order of things and arbitrarily interpreted "universal human values."

It is just such an inverted world that the West is trying to impose on other countries and cultures - as the only true and progressive one. Humanity is offered, in fact, a pathology that they are trying to declare a “new norm”. When imposing a new world order, the means are used very different: open intervention, organized rebellions, terrorism, economic sabotage, etc. But the goal is always the same: to transform the world into a unified “single humanity” led by a very narrow group of “owners” who have a monopoly right to information, violence and justice. Others-only technology, and the current "Maidan" Ukrainian distemper-including.

Putin has not come out of reality. He is just in OUR reality. In a half-destroyed, but still capable of restoring, the reality of a thousand-year Russian civilization, where for centuries not "being defined consciousness", but vice versa. Where, despite many years of brainwashing, the conviction that the common good is more important than personal success, a clear conscience is more important than benefit and man is not a wolf, but “friend, comrade and brother” from the consciousness of the people and has not been completely eradicated from the consciousness of the people. Including - a person living in Ukraine. Regardless of which of the branches of a single Russian people he belongs to and what kind of a single Russian language he speaks of before.

“Russians! I now appeal to all Russians - the inhabitants of Ukraine and Belarus in the Balkans are also considered Russians. Look at us and remember - they will do the same to you when you separate and give up the slack. West - chain mad dog - cling to your throat. Brothers! Remember the fate of Yugoslavia and do not let us do the same to you ... ”This kind of deathbed prophecy is attributed to Slobodan Milosevic. I do not know whether Milosevic really wrote these words while sitting in the Hague prison, but Putin clearly read them.

Confirmation of which - the actions of Russia in connection with the Ukrainian situation. The actions, which we unsuccessfully expected from the Russian authorities for more than twenty “liberal” years, have almost ceased to hope. As many more waited for them in our world disfigured by globalizers. Those who believed that not everything is being bought and sold. And that God is not in power, but in truth.
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  1. Fedya
    Fedya 6 March 2014 08: 00
    +8
    Well, wait! Now the GDP puts you in a pose! And beautiful by law.
    1. jjj
      jjj 6 March 2014 08: 18
      +49
      It will be difficult for us, at times it will seem that it would be better if we did not start a confrontation. Someone will have to give their lives. But before us is an example of the feat of our people in the Great Patriotic War. And now we can rightfully repeat the great words: "Our cause is just! The enemy will be defeated! Victory will be ours!"
      1. RUS96
        RUS96 6 March 2014 08: 39
        +65
        Yesterday was the day of memory of the Right Prince Yaroslav the Wise. Now his words to his sons are as relevant as possible.
        1. Navy7981
          Navy7981 6 March 2014 09: 43
          +13
          Yes, whom does the experience of ancestors teach. There is the main order of Ukraine - the order of Yaroslav the Wise, who turned over in his grave after learning that he was not the Great Russian prince, but a completely unknown Ukrainian.
    2. platitsyn70
      platitsyn70 6 March 2014 08: 19
      +13
      Obama with Merkil need to present on a jar of Vaseline.
      1. Riperbahn
        Riperbahn 6 March 2014 09: 12
        +5
        Everything is smooth with this place and without Vaseline.
        1. AVV
          AVV 6 March 2014 13: 00
          0
          Quote: Riperbahn
          Everything is smooth with this place and without Vaseline.

          Yes, it’s not Vaseline, but skiPIDAR needs to be given !!! What would they scream with happiness that they still don’t touch them !!!
    3. INTER
      INTER 6 March 2014 08: 21
      +6
      All would be nothing but the development of the country, the army, industry (recent changes are visible). Why keep it in candy wrappers when a country can be transformed to envy by all Saxons? Although this is also an addiction, and perhaps a tribute!
      1. varov14
        varov14 6 March 2014 11: 41
        +3
        "A world in which the force of law has long been replaced by the law of force" --- Maybe Putin realized that the law of force is more effective in the current world and decided to rebuild the country in this direction. It's never too late to seize the initiative, why are they and not us? They say we Russians are more spiritual, therefore, our strength will harm the rest of the world less. We have a fusion of cultures, we live quite peacefully with each other (if well-wishers do not encourage), we do not impose anything on anyone, we use our own languages ​​(though who is in science, politics, business, without Russian - what to do, a good, developed language for all occasions ). It's time to build a strong state, why not us.
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    5. SibRUS
      SibRUS 6 March 2014 09: 12
      +22
      Putin is bending his line, and rightly so!
      1. Neophyte
        Neophyte 6 March 2014 10: 25
        +1
        The fact that Obama is a wimp, the Americans themselves admit:
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    6. Spnsr
      Spnsr 6 March 2014 10: 16
      +1
      Quote: Fedya
      Well, wait! Now the GDP puts you in a pose! And beautiful by law.


      nothing personal, but all this "gay parade" itself strives for this! and to make it harder
  2. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 6 March 2014 08: 18
    +15
    it’s necessary to break the backbone of all these crap once and for all. It was in vain that Stalin was afraid to trample all of Europe.
  3. NikoEro
    NikoEro 6 March 2014 08: 20
    +28
    I think one fact should be recognized - the cult of personality and power as Putin’s policy strives to the level of Stalin. Stubbornness, will, but at the same time an extreme degree of manifestation of external diplomacy and following the laws. And behind the scenes, he shows the performance to the West - how the new Russia can respond to seasonal upheavals. In the USA, did you really think that with a country that is striving for development, it will turn out the same as with Arab countries? Or do they think that their and NATO troops will be just as effective against an army where weapons are equipped with models of equipment different from the 1960s and 70s? The guys can work only according to the pattern, but they are not able to impromptu - snipers get out right there, hysterical statements jump out and run around the countries with requests to support the sanctions. A shame. GDP is a cut above any EU and US politician. May God grant health and sanity.
    1. INTER
      INTER 6 March 2014 08: 42
      +7
      Quote: NikoEro
      In the USA, did you really think that with a country that is striving for development, it will turn out the same as with Arab countries? Or do they think that their and NATO troops will be just as effective against an army where weapons are equipped with models of equipment different from the 1960s and 70s?

      The best means of protection are a competent attack, which prevents us from organizing the same thing in their country, there is plenty of mind, means too!
    2. major071
      major071 6 March 2014 08: 48
      +17
      Russian bear wakes up from a long hibernation. He had not yet woken up to the end, but being half asleep, he was already waving his paws, removing all that was unnecessary, everything that prevented him. Just a little more and he would finally wake up ...
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 6 March 2014 20: 11
        +1
        And who can say what he wants in the first place. To scratch Puzo or to roll a neck to someone ...
    3. Interlocutor
      Interlocutor 6 March 2014 10: 15
      +1
      Quote: ZU-23
      Putin is in reality, I still remember when he talked about arming the army, as he clearly said, it is necessary to quickly arm and restore the army, and then it will be too late. So all the same, he understood that this would come gradually, and now we will see the reaction of the Ukrainian people, even the second stage of this batch has not yet gone.

      I think that the analysts from his team already know what will happen in the fall, perhaps and what will happen next spring.))))
      1. varov14
        varov14 6 March 2014 11: 53
        0
        There is no need to rush to Ukraine and to Ukraine, they have not all settled down in their heads there. But this does not mean that it is not necessary to conduct secret diplomacy and "war", as the West and America do.
  4. shibi
    shibi 6 March 2014 08: 21
    +9
    It is high time to fill the face with all the geyrops and their owners behind a large puddle.
  5. ZU-23
    ZU-23 6 March 2014 08: 28
    +8
    Putin is in reality, I still remember when he talked about arming the army, as he clearly said, it is necessary to quickly arm and restore the army, and then it will be too late. So all the same, he understood that this would come gradually, and now we will see the reaction of the Ukrainian people, even the second stage of this batch has not yet gone.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 6 March 2014 08: 32
      +18
      Quote: ZU-23
      Putin is in reality, I still remember when he talked about arming the army, as he clearly said, it is necessary to quickly arm and restore the army, and then it will be too late.

      He spoke correctly! And it is necessary that words do not diverge with deeds! Because

      The Verkhovna Rada registered a bill in support of Ukraine’s accession to NATO. Its text is published on the website of the parliament. The bill is an amendment to the Law on the Foundations of National Security. In particular, he suggests introducing article 6 of this law, which deals with the national priorities of Ukraine ...
      ... mention of integration "into the Euro-Atlantic space."

      In article 8, which lists the main directions of state security policy, following the words “gaining membership in the European Union” it is proposed to write “and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization”.

      In addition, the bill provides for amendments to the law "On the principles of domestic and foreign policy." From article 11 it is proposed to exclude the passage that Ukraine is a non-aligned state. In the same article (in the part where the principles of foreign policy are listed), it is proposed to add a clause on “Ukraine’s membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and participation in the creation of a European collective security system”.
      http://www.versii.com/news/298740/
      I think that there is no need to explain to anyone here what will happen if such a law is adopted !!!! am
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 6 March 2014 08: 43
        +7
        Yes, of course, this is the real law of the surrender of Ukraine.
        1. Sergh
          Sergh 6 March 2014 09: 16
          +4
          Quote: Egoza
          no one here needs to be explained what will happen if such a law is adopted

          They will no longer accept, they will not have time, we have already taken almost all of Crimea with a quiet glanders. Small foci of dissatisfied under control. Ahead also quietly and without much ado, advancing to the applause and support of the local, but stubbornly and banging forward. Orders are all given and received in the legal field. The legitimate president Yanukovych (albeit a big mu_dak), officially with a written statement, asks Russia to provide assistance, up to the military (according to Putin himself from 4.03.2014). So what are we waiting for fun, lads. It’s impossible for the blue west to surrender their blood lands without a fight to the blue west, the grandchildren will not forgive us this, all the more there is a chance to get by with little blood under the guise of.
          1. haron
            haron 6 March 2014 09: 45
            -4
            Quote: Sergh
            They will no longer accept, they will not have time, we have already taken almost all of Crimea with a quiet glanders. Small foci of dissatisfied under control. Ahead also quietly and without much ado, advancing to the applause and support of the local, but stubbornly and banging forward. Orders are all given and received in the legal field. The legitimate president Yanukovych (albeit a big mu_dak), officially with a written statement, asks Russia to provide assistance, up to the military (according to Putin himself from 4.03.2014).

            You brothers were in a hurry. Rather than lying about NOT staying Russian troops in the Crimea, it would be better to wait until a really "right sector" comes there, headed by this dyBilym, ideally, of course, a referendum should have been held. Then it was not necessary for Yanuca to cover himself with this pissed-off rag.
            Two good things would be done in the right way. 1. Neutrolized part of the militants. 2. Without special bends, they had a real reason to enter the Crimea.
            1. uhu189
              uhu189 6 March 2014 11: 21
              +1
              There was no time to wait, they would not have time otherwise. The troops of the Black Sea Fleet are constantly in the Crimea, the units that were transferred to the Crimea formally to protect the facilities of the Black Sea Fleet. As such, no one has thrown the army to capture Crimea, so no one is lying to anyone - you just need to look at the problem from the right angle
            2. DmitryU
              DmitryU 6 March 2014 11: 48
              0
              If the militants let in the Crimea how many simple people would suffer? All the same, it's easier not to let them into the Crimea than to knock them out of there.
          2. Vasyan1971
            Vasyan1971 6 March 2014 20: 20
            0
            Agree on the deployment of Iskanders in Crimea. Dreams Dreams...
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      3. Name
        6 March 2014 08: 51
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        It is proposed to add a clause on “Ukraine’s membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and participation in the creation of a European collective security system”.

        It’s a serious thing, no doubt, but I doubt that the GDP (and its analysts) did not foresee this, note that referendum in Crimea on status scheduled for March 30 ...and we will see however! hi
        1. ZU-23
          ZU-23 6 March 2014 09: 03
          +2
          Quote: name
          referendum in Crimea on status scheduled for March 30

          Still this referendum was delayed as if on purpose, not that he in the Rada laws are stamped day and night, without referenda.
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      4. AlNikolaich
        AlNikolaich 6 March 2014 10: 25
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        I think that there is no need to explain to anyone here what will happen if such a law is adopted

        Greetings! Elena, I rightly believe that even if they accept, his legal force will be insignificant! Since glad to be able to take it under pressure!
        As the saying goes: -Eat he can eat,
        who will give him?
        1. sarmat-4791
          sarmat-4791 6 March 2014 11: 11
          +1
          But to hell with them in all their faces and lips. A country (Ukraine) will not be admitted to NATO, while military units of a foreign state (Russia) are on its territory. Therefore, Saakashvili also broke off at the time, because Abkhazia and South Ossetia however. So let them adopt the law, but nothing will come of it, at least 100500 times for this, they will suck in the west or rush into the ass. Can urinotherapy wash their brains?
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      5. Max otto
        Max otto 6 March 2014 12: 23
        0
        Quote: Egoza
        ...
        The Verkhovna Rada registered a bill in support of Ukraine’s accession to NATO. Its text is published on the website of the parliament. The bill is an amendment to the Law on the Foundations of National Security. In particular, he suggests introducing article 6 of this law, which deals with the national priorities of Ukraine ...

        This once again shows the inadequacy of the new authorities. Here you can relax, no one will accept Ukraine into NATO, never. According to the charter of this Nata, those who have territorial problems are not taken there. And in Ukraine they are already in person. The same thing applies to Georgia, they will be in the wild only if they abandon the seized territories that no one will do.
    2. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 6 March 2014 20: 13
      0
      Shoigu later connected to this. On Serdyukov I stumbled
  6. Berimor 2
    Berimor 2 6 March 2014 08: 35
    +2
    Everything is correct, it is high time to indicate its place for the lost contact with the reality of Western civilization, and at the same time indicate a reference point to those countries that do not have it or have not decided. But this must be done in accordance with the existing international norms. You should not be guided by the desire to "burn out the infection with a hot iron." This option remains as the most extreme. So far, only isolation, in order for the infection to devour itself (do not forget about stimulating supplements). This path is longer, but more effective, since the best way of upbringing (from pedagogy) is when the educated person does not realize that he is being brought up.
  7. Gardamir
    Gardamir 6 March 2014 08: 36
    +3
    It seems to me that all people are divided into those who believe in words, and those who believe in business. The fact that the west drives the wave. This is bullshit. But yesterday, Bandera marching around Odessa seriously. And Putin’s statement that there is no need to confuse politics and the economy. Imagine 1943 trains with grain from Siberia to Berlin, because war is war, but the economy is more important. Now any money. that will fall into Little Russia will settle in the pockets of Bendera.
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 6 March 2014 10: 28
      -1
      Quote: Gardamir
      Imagine 1943 trains with grain from Siberia to Berlin, because war is war, but the economy is more important.

      What are you talking about??? What echelons to Berlin from Siberia in 1943 year ????
      What do you smoke ???
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 6 March 2014 11: 59
        -1
        Isn’t that so? Please do not confuse politics with the economy? And do not talk to me Russian newspeak! I am Russian.
  8. Flipman
    Flipman 6 March 2014 08: 40
    +6
    Quote: sibi
    May God grant health and sanity.
    and longevity so that the West would be constantly in shock! I noticed that it’s strange that in the Republic of Kazakhstan and in Belarus the presidents are silent! It’s wrong that the allies should support each other
  9. ken
    ken 6 March 2014 08: 44
    +1
    Putin is doing the right thing. And if he was once wrong, then in the main he is right - we have our own ideology and history and we don’t need anybody’s clues from outside.
  10. Old warrant officer
    Old warrant officer 6 March 2014 08: 47
    +10
    In my opinion, the time has come to create a supranational patriotic party, where the main idea will be the idea of ​​unification and patriotism, the idea of ​​the Fatherland! There is already a foundation for such a party — the centuries-old history of our FATHERLAND! I am sure and know that the patriots of the FATHERLAND are among all the peoples and nationalities of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan and many other republics of the former USSR. I, as an acting military man, cannot be a member of the parties, but I would support such a party!
    1. rOpe
      rOpe 6 March 2014 09: 16
      0
      Such a party already exists. This is air defense. Party of the Great Fatherland. As far as I know, there is even a branch in France !! http: //xn--80aealaaatcuj2bbdbr2agjd6hzh.xn--p1ai/
    2. Sma11
      Sma11 6 March 2014 12: 03
      0
      I repeat once again. Need a national idea. Without it, people cannot be raised. And move it to the masses.
      1. tolancop
        tolancop 6 March 2014 13: 11
        0
        And "You need to unite to fight back" is bad.
        The day before yesterday I listened to the radio. The question of the attitude of the people to the sanctions of the bourgeoisie was discussed. General opinion: we will interrupt without frills.
  11. Nitarius
    Nitarius 6 March 2014 08: 49
    +1
    I feel for a place under our sun we still have to fight
    And do not make mistakes Stalin had to beat the United States after. WWII? Right away. The army was strong and had experience.

    And right now, we must slowly select one country from the west
    The stone on the stones cannot be separated from these reptiles
  12. umeletz
    umeletz 6 March 2014 08: 56
    +18
    You can talk a lot about the advantages and disadvantages of GDP. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Russia, the Russian Empire reached the highest level in the world only under authoritarian rulers, endowed with ALL the fullness of power and who knew how to use this power. Ivan the Terrible, Peter 1, Catherine 2, Lenin, Stalin. In my opinion, decline and "tolerance" came when we, Russia, sought to get closer to Europe and others like them. Why, I ask myself, are we European or, God forbid, the American way of development, as well as the Chinese or, to for example, Filipino. We have our own path, different from everyone else. A unique, multinational, self-sufficient country. Do we really need a democracy of the British or French model with a slave-owning basis, with non-traditional marriages, with the headquarters of terrorist organizations in the capital, with migrants sitting on the neck of the indigenous population. Putin should have a carte blanche for ANY external and internal political actions. Only then will the whole world reckon with us, with our country.
    1. demon184
      demon184 6 March 2014 09: 17
      -2
      Yes, even Vladimir Vladimirovich took a hike to the campaign, he had to immediately shut off the gas to Kiev and he also wants to help the Nazis, maybe I don’t understand, but I would have shut off the valve immediately after the coup.
      1. Interlocutor
        Interlocutor 6 March 2014 10: 19
        +2
        Quote: demon184
        Yes, even Vladimir Vladimirovich took a hike to the campaign, he had to immediately shut off the gas to Kiev and he also wants to help the Nazis, maybe I don’t understand, but I would have shut off the valve immediately after the coup.

        Why, for one, violate contractual obligations? This gives the enemy an extra trump card when talking with us. The valve does not need to be shut off.
        1. Vedmed_23
          Vedmed_23 6 March 2014 11: 00
          +1
          That's right, the valve is open, the debt is growing. Then you can talk about what they will give, but you will have to give it unambiguously.
      2. Mi
        Mi 6 March 2014 11: 01
        0
        and where to get the gas? it’s rushing from the well, it’s necessary to either upload to the storage facilities or burn ... and we’ll hang up debts, even if it’s an illegitimate government - they will take loans and immediately transfer them to us for gas
      3. Mi
        Mi 6 March 2014 11: 01
        +1
        and where to get the gas? it’s rushing from the well, it’s necessary to either upload to the storage facilities or burn ... and we’ll hang up debts, even if it’s an illegitimate government - they will take loans and immediately transfer them to us for gas
      4. uhu189
        uhu189 6 March 2014 11: 25
        +1
        If you cut off the gas, it will play a bet on the nationalists in their accusations of hostility to Russia, plus the factories will close in the east - people will suffer from it, but not nationalists. The worse they are, the better. Yes, and it’s pointless - unauthorized selections will begin with European deliveries
  13. archivist
    archivist 6 March 2014 08: 58
    +1
    Actual article! The real question is whether Russia will be a power (together with its multinational people and, of course, Ukrainians and Belarusians) with which all countries of the world will be reckoned without exception, or will it turn into a satellite !?
    1. Nikich
      Nikich 6 March 2014 09: 26
      0
      And plus half of Europe
  14. Flipman
    Flipman 6 March 2014 09: 05
    +7

    wonderful song and just the topic
    1. super-vitek
      super-vitek 6 March 2014 12: 31
      0
      Indeed, the words of the song inspire !!! Of course we must fight and we will fight !!!! But not with the Ukrainians, I mean real Ukrainians, and not any henchmen like "what sector is that there", Sash Muzychko and other rabble !!! we will be with those who allegedly want to bring freedom and democracy to the land of our brothers, who dream of the destruction of a powerful ethnic group, colossal cultural and family ties. With those who hammer in the minds of young people the brown plague, with a false idea of ​​supermen, supernation !!! All these pedoliberasts will face a very terrible fate if they, like in 41st, want to try to step over the red line, as it is now fashionable to say among Western politicians "!!! You are welcome" Who will come to us with a sword from the sword and perish !!!
  15. demon184
    demon184 6 March 2014 09: 14
    0
    Chet seems to have decided to merge Ukraine? The regions are asking to support the eastern regions and Crimea, while they themselves continue to feed the Nazis in Kiev and supply them with gas. GDP does not live up to my expectations.
    1. Alex toll
      Alex toll 6 March 2014 13: 47
      0
      Don `t cry ! You are like a small child - I want it now - I want everything at once - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
  16. krot
    krot 6 March 2014 09: 17
    0
    Washi-pedorostic Europe)
  17. Auralski
    Auralski 6 March 2014 09: 22
    0
    Somewhat pathetic, but certainly +.
    As the comment says correctly:
    Quote: Old Warrant Officer
    the main idea will be the idea of ​​unification and patriotism

    Previously, the word "Russian" had a slightly different meaning. Therefore, one could come across such records: "Russian from Tatars", "Russian from Kalmyks" ... Now, the meaning is closer to the word "Russian". And no matter what nationality. An opportunity arises to build an international empire, where the concepts of "law" and "justice" do not differ too much. It's up to the implementation. And then the "American cauldron" cooled down and began to attract ...
  18. Nikich
    Nikich 6 March 2014 09: 25
    +1
    Quote: Nitarius
    I feel for a place under our sun we still have to fight
    And do not make mistakes Stalin had to beat the United States after. WWII? Right away. The army was strong and had experience.

    And right now, we must slowly select one country from the west
    The stone on the stones cannot be separated from these reptiles


    Quote: Old Warrant Officer
    In my opinion, the time has come to create a supranational patriotic party, where the main idea will be the idea of ​​unification and patriotism, the idea of ​​the Fatherland! There is already a foundation for such a party — the centuries-old history of our FATHERLAND! I am sure and know that the patriots of the FATHERLAND are among all the peoples and nationalities of Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Kazakhstan and many other republics of the former USSR. I, as an acting military man, cannot be a member of the parties, but I would support such a party!

    Well, I completely agree. We need a party that would take power into its own hands and create a country that is completely self-sufficient
  19. mountain
    mountain 6 March 2014 09: 25
    0
    The EU is a cobblestone on the mountain, washed by the elements, and Ukraine, weather, GDP, precipitation. Everything goes to the point that soon, the cobblestone will roll and the consequences for Europe will be dire.
  20. Known who
    Known who 6 March 2014 09: 26
    -1
    Whatever they say, most of the Russian channels are turned off in Ukraine, they washed their heads and threw the cry "MOTHERLAND IN DANGER", constantly show "RUSSIAN TANKS", Shuster fights in anti-Russian hysteria and his hysteria is immediately repeated on another channel. Russia is losing the information war disastrously. Local oligarchs were given over to fiefdoms (eastern regions) so that they would suppress resistance by any means, including by exporting the maydanuts to the eastern regions. A little more and at a possible referendum the people will say yes to the Banderaites. We have already lost Ukraine, which is a pity.
  21. Normal
    Normal 6 March 2014 09: 29
    +1
    According to the New York Times, Frau Merkel said something like this: Putin is “in a different world” and she’s not sure “he’s lost touch with reality.”
    ......
    Putin (and Russia along with him) ceased to take for granted the reality created by the West and did not want to stay in the world created by the West.


    And on what facts is this statement based?
    What exactly has been done? What are the results of Putin’s actions?

    Unfortunately, the GDP has not only not lost touch with the reality created by the West, but quite the opposite. Aware of his superiority over the Western temporary (and they are temporary administrators, unlike Putin, who seems to have finally decided the question of the eternity of his rule) as political puppets, the Greatest does not build his reality, as Stalin did, but strive, by virtue of his alfvsamtsovtsy, to dominate in namely, Western reality (the capitalist path of development, the oligarchy and the complete lack of control of the ruling elite of the population or even the law)
    The West is at a loss. How so? He did not create reality, is not economically independent, is ideologically helpless and wants to be with us not as equals, but "more equal" to us? And only because of what oil and gas has?
    The West is not used to being disobeyed, and even more so when upstarts without clans and tribes try to crawl into a closed club of world rulers. There centuries-old dynasties deciding the fate of the world because of the backs of appointed managers, and here is the KGB colonel. The West is in shock. Hence the conflict.
    But it is possible that the GDP has long secured the support of some world rulers (it was not for nothing that Berel Lazar prayed beside the wailing wall all the time), which is why he is not afraid of the provisional managers of the West. Seeing the roof is no worse for him, in any case it seems to him so. Putin will exist precisely in Western reality, about which he spoke more than once openly. But the temporary governors of the West seem to have really lost touch with reality, played up and did not understand that such an element as Putin has long existed in THEIR reality and this element should not only be taken into account, but should already be considered equal to itself.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 March 2014 10: 39
      +4
      Quote: Normal
      What exactly has been done? What are the results of Putin’s actions?

      Hi Vova! I’ll ask you a counter-question. What did our swamps do, whose meetings did you go to? One by one they drove to Kiev and supported the coup, well, I know that.
      As for Putin, if you think that he did nothing, then I don’t understand, and why did the west screech so much?
      By the way, look at the komenty below, there is a small gray-chased, independent maidanut patriot, says that we occupied the Crimea. laughing
      1. Normal
        Normal 6 March 2014 13: 00
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Hi Vova!


        Great, Sashan!

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And what did our swamps do whose meetings did you go to? One by one they drove to Kiev and supported the coup ...


        First:
        Normal (3) SU August 15, 2013 22:07 PM | Dolphins through the eyes of anchovies

        I began to read, from the first paragraphs I realized that the pro-government will again drive into the brain that the Germans, Kasyanovs and the like kudrins are opposition leaders and fiery revolutionaries. Got bored..


        Secondly:
        Normal RU August 14, 2013 12:40 | Press conference by Vladimir Zhirinovsky August 13, 2013

        Hush, hush ... I am not going to defend the "opposition leader" (this is not the leader I will follow)


        Thirdly:
        Normal RU December 3, 2013 01:36 | European Commissioners and Nenko Ukraine

        If somewhere it is necessary to compromise and "drain" the protest, then it is impossible to invent a better performer. It is not necessary to detain Nemtsov, but to supply him with money and send him to Kiev in a sealed carriage. In a week, Euromaidan will be chatted and handed over!

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        As for Putin, if you think that he did nothing, then I don’t understand, and why did the west screech so much?

        In my comment, everything is intelligibly explained.

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        By the way, look at the komenty below, there is a small gray-chased, independent maidanut patriot, says that we occupied the Crimea.

        Yes what to butt them? In the ban of such and the entire short-lived.
    2. dmb
      dmb 6 March 2014 11: 10
      +1
      And also Vladimir, you are an "agent of the State Department, 5th column, liberal and Trotskyist" (this is a continuation of the comment below). The brave commentator, either because of the truthfulness, or because of the lack of speech turns, does not even try to refute what you said. But he regularly resorts to the method inherent in such a category - hangs labels.
      1. Normal
        Normal 6 March 2014 13: 05
        0
        Quote: dmb
        And also Vladimir, you are an "agent of the State Department, 5th column, liberal and Trotskyist"


        Zno - a horse, since horns! laughing
  22. kress42rus
    kress42rus 6 March 2014 09: 30
    +1
    if we are scolded, then we are doing everything right !!!
  23. predator.3
    predator.3 6 March 2014 09: 31
    +2
    The West is in shock. About the same as the Horde khan Akhmat, when he learned that Moscow Prince Ivan the Third refuses to pay tribute


    And then - "Standing on the Ugra", or according to the modern on the Dnieper ?! laughing And he turned, then Akhmat in his camp (or in the stall) is not salty slurping!
  24. Good cat
    Good cat 6 March 2014 09: 32
    0
    Build and build and build your own, think and think again. If everything goes well with us, everyone will run to us. And about America, "brother" said: "Your America will soon be kirdyk"
  25. Sergg
    Sergg 6 March 2014 09: 38
    +1
    “Russians! I now appeal to all Russians - the inhabitants of Ukraine and Belarus in the Balkans are also considered Russians. Look at us and remember - they will do the same to you when you disconnect and give slack. The West - a rabid chain dog - clings to your throat. Brothers! Remember the fate of Yugoslavia and do not let you do the same ... "


    We need to remember this by heart.
  26. Freemason
    Freemason 6 March 2014 09: 41
    +1
    "And he looked at the enemy's army, it was great and there was no end to it.
    And he sighed with bitterness: "Great Russia, mother, but there is no one to protect you ..."
    And he heard the voice "Except for ourselves!"
    And the sons rose, the Silas trembled
    And they stood side by side shoulder to shoulder, the glorious men, Russians ... "(C)

    Yes, we are not all right, history teaches us this. No matter how distorted it is. But one thing remains unchanged. Our soul, mentality, our will. And as Alexander Nevsky said, at one time: "Whoever comes to us with a sword will die by the sword." This applies to everyone who displeases us. And let them remember the words of the Grand Duke. And those who among us have forgotten their history will remember it over time, or they will be tormented with shame for the rest of their lives.
  27. tank64rus
    tank64rus 6 March 2014 09: 44
    +2
    Putin has not gone out of reality. He is simply in OUR reality. In a dilapidated, but still capable of restoring the reality of the millennial Russian civilization, where for centuries not “being has determined consciousness”, but vice versa. Where, in spite of many years of brainwashing, the conviction that the common good is more important than personal prosperity, a clear conscience is more important than profit, and man is not a wolf, but a “friend, comrade and brother” from the people's consciousness, was completely erased. Including - a person living in Ukraine. Regardless of which branch of the formerly unified Russian people it belongs to and which variety of the formerly unified Russian language it speaks. This is Russian Truth
  28. lykk
    lykk 6 March 2014 09: 57
    -12%
    I'll tell you this: you attacked us, thinking that the South-East would rise, welcoming the invaders with flowers, and the South-East rallied around the government and the president of the country. Grievances and misunderstandings have sunk into oblivion, now the Ukrainians have only one slogan: "Get up, the country is huge, get up to mortal battle!"
    1. Ribwort
      Ribwort 6 March 2014 10: 07
      +1
      Quote: lykk
      I’ll tell you this: you attacked us ...

      And how many proud ukrov, let me ask you, died as a result of our "treacherous attack"?
      Quote: lykk
      Southeast rallied around the government and the country's president

      Which government? And which president? What are you talking about? About those who recently banned the Russian language, proclaimed a course in NATO, and then, modestly, they asked: "You in Russia seem to have offered some money in the amount of 2 billion. Well, can you give it?" This is not a government or even a circus - this is a clinic! Unite around them further - you are standing each other.
      PS Ukrainians everywhere you kiss-everywhere ass.
      1. matross
        matross 6 March 2014 11: 16
        0
        Quote: Ribwort
        Everywhere you kiss the Ukrainians - everywhere an ass.

        Well, what are you writing ?? The troll provokes you, and you are underway! So he provokes it for this, so that they write nasty things about Ukrainian brothers! Well, be smarter than them !! Quietly minus, downgraded rating and tries!
        1. Ribwort
          Ribwort 6 March 2014 11: 19
          0
          Quote: matRoss
          Well, what are you writing ?? The troll provokes you, and you are being fought! So he provokes for this to write nasty things about Ukrainian brothers! Well, be smarter than them !!

          I apologize, wrote in the heat of the moment. Guilty, I’ll correct it. drinks
    2. Silkway0026
      Silkway0026 6 March 2014 10: 10
      +1
      dreamer....
    3. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 6 March 2014 10: 42
      0
      Quote: lykk
      The Southeast rallied around the government and the president of the country. Grievances and misunderstandings have sunk into oblivion, now the Ukrainians have only one slogan: "get up, the country is huge, get up to mortal battle!"

      What golden words! Just for some reason, I have not heard about it. I do not see the unity of the people near Yanukovych. And the legal government is dispersed. And not all the people have yet fought against fascism and the coupists of the Maidan!
      Come on, get up, start with yourself! Show yourself a Ukrainian and not a zombie maydanutym!
      Attacked you for a long time! And the brains set well. Just decide on your life, after
      liberation. Where will you be? In a cell with an egg and a turchinov (they will instill in you "European values" ...), or breathe the wind of freedom of your Motherland!
      hi
    4. SergBrNord
      SergBrNord 6 March 2014 10: 57
      +2
      lykk
      Registration Date: 6 March 2014 09: 41
      Last Visited: Mar 6, 2014 10:22 PM

      Well, my friend, one of the couch troops!
    5. Boris55
      Boris55 6 March 2014 11: 03
      +1
      Quote: lykk
      "Get up, the country is huge, get up to fight to the death!"

      And what stopped, then forgot the words? Let me remind you: "With a dark fascist force, With a cursed horde."
      Do you have, brain liquefaction, you don’t see fascists marching around Kiev?
    6. Hort
      Hort 6 March 2014 11: 05
      +1
      wide spam bot gives wishful thinking)))
      Registered today and already in gray uniforms
  29. shibi
    shibi 6 March 2014 09: 59
    +1
    Quote: lykk
    I'll tell you this: you attacked us, thinking that the South-East would rise, welcoming the invaders with flowers, and the South-East rallied around the government and the president of the country. Grievances and misunderstandings have sunk into oblivion, now the Ukrainians have only one slogan: "Get up, the country is huge, get up to mortal battle!"

    No one attacked you, except your forest brothers.
    1. mpa945
      mpa945 6 March 2014 10: 21
      0
      And their sponsors
  30. lykk
    lykk 6 March 2014 10: 01
    -6
    Quote: sibi
    No one attacked you, except your forest brothers.



    Crimea is completely occupied by Russians. Ukrainian units are all blocked. This is not attacked?
    1. Ribwort
      Ribwort 6 March 2014 10: 12
      0
      Quote: lykk
      This is not attacked?

      As a result of an attack, casualties usually occur. And in your case, it’s the other way around, where they were "attacked", it was quiet, and where they didn’t touch, there were hundreds of dead. Strange logic, isn't it?
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 March 2014 10: 24
      +1
      Quote: lykk


      Crimea is completely occupied by Russians.

      Returned!
    3. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 6 March 2014 10: 47
      0
      Quote: lykk
      Crimea is completely occupied by Russians. Ukrainian units are all blocked. This is not attacked?

      Have you been to Crimea? He saw the Russian occupation? Russian soldiers?
      Or did your curator say this? Or maybe I heard on TV?
      They will not tell you the truth, everything is paid!
      Until you begin to extract and analyze information, stay with crap brains! hi
    4. uhu189
      uhu189 6 March 2014 11: 41
      +1
      So, do not you think the blocked units are eager for a mortal battle, for breaking the blockade and expelling the invaders? Or am I misunderstanding something? And the people of Crimea swore a lot. Yes, and crowds at the military enlistment offices also somehow not observed. And most importantly, there is no invasion, no destruction, no casualties ... Or am I wrong? And if in the Crimea all the inhabitants are deeply outraged by the aggression of Russia, is there really enough of the GRU brigade and the marine regiment to keep the situation under control? Can you answer these questions yourself before writing nonsense?
  31. AV 587
    AV 587 6 March 2014 10: 10
    +2
    It is well and intelligibly said about "inverted" values. If we recall the trends of the last 20 years, it is so. Thanks to the author for the article.
  32. lykk
    lykk 6 March 2014 10: 11
    -9
    Quote: Ribwort
    About those who recently banned the Russian language.



    That is precisely why they rallied, because no one forbade anything. And your little lie has generated a lot of mistrust. We just know that the Russians did not come to kill Bandera, but Ukrainians, women and children.
    1. Ribwort
      Ribwort 6 March 2014 10: 15
      +3
      Quote: lykk
      Russians did not come to kill Bandera, but Ukrainians, women and children.

      And who were they killed? Does the name Kashchenko tell you anything? Every second Russian in Ukraine has relatives! However, the explanations are meaningless ... Specialists will help you.
      1. The comment was deleted.
      2. lykk
        lykk 6 March 2014 10: 19
        -7
        "" Russian troops strengthened the blockade of the military units of the Crimea and began to dig trenches ""

        What are these invaders doing on Ukrainian soil?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 6 March 2014 10: 21
          +2
          Quote: lykk
          What are these invaders doing on Ukrainian soil?

          This is Russian land !!! But you weren’t here.
        2. vomag
          vomag 6 March 2014 10: 47
          +2
          Since when did Crimea become Ukrainian land? identity "komunyaki, etc." they gave it to you for the time of the union ... it's time to give everything for the flies separately cutlets separately!
          1. Spnsr
            Spnsr 6 March 2014 10: 49
            +1
            Quote: vomag
            Since when did Crimea become Ukrainian land? identity "komunyaki, etc." they gave it to you for the time of the union ... it's time to give everything for the flies separately cutlets separately!

            Yes! cut down the rent!
        3. vsdvs
          vsdvs 6 March 2014 11: 22
          0
          Judging by the dog - it's local
    2. Spnsr
      Spnsr 6 March 2014 10: 22
      +1
      Quote: lykk
      Quote: Ribwort
      About those who recently banned the Russian language.



      That is precisely why they rallied, because no one forbade anything. And your little lie has generated a lot of mistrust. We just know that the Russians did not come to kill Bandera, but Ukrainians, women and children.

      Yes! here's the brains then zasrat! I sympathize with the poor fellow.
      You will soon not only not speak Russian, but in general will use the Latin alphabet!
      and instead of a victory parade, you will go to gay parades and one or two parents will call you!
      it's not too far
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 March 2014 10: 24
      0
      Quote: lykk
      We just know that the Russians did not come to kill Bandera, but Ukrainians, women and children.

      Have you been washed with powder brains or Domestos for the toilet?
  33. lykk
    lykk 6 March 2014 10: 16
    -5
    Quote: Ribwort
    As a result of an attack, casualties usually occur. And in your case, it’s the other way around, where they were "attacked", it was quiet, and where they didn’t touch, there were hundreds of dead. Strange logic, isn't it?


    And what do you want, de = facto, to annex Crimea? This is normal?
    1. Ribwort
      Ribwort 6 March 2014 10: 19
      +1
      Quote: lykk
      And what do you want, de = facto, to annex Crimea?

      Yes, we do not want anything. For starters, you ask Crimeans what they want.
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 March 2014 10: 23
      +2
      Quote: lykk
      Is this normal?

      It's great ! This is a holiday for Russia and the Crimea. Give greetings to Lviv and thanks to the right sector for Crimea tongue
    3. Spnsr
      Spnsr 6 March 2014 10: 47
      0
      Quote: lykk
      Quote: Ribwort
      As a result of an attack, casualties usually occur. And in your case, it’s the other way around, where they were "attacked", it was quiet, and where they didn’t touch, there were hundreds of dead. Strange logic, isn't it?


      And what do you want, de = facto, to annex Crimea? This is normal?


      for especially washed

      http://el-murid.livejournal.com/1611905.html
    4. Hort
      Hort 6 March 2014 11: 07
      0
      quite. Just collect your land back tongue
  34. lykk
    lykk 6 March 2014 10: 22
    -6
    Quote: Ribwort
    Quote: lykk
    And what do you want, de = facto, to annex Crimea?

    Yes, we do not want anything. For starters, you ask Crimeans what they want.


    It will be necessary - we ask. Do you care about Ukraine?
    I repeat once again: what do these gangs of invaders do. in Ukraine?
    1. Ribwort
      Ribwort 6 March 2014 10: 29
      +1
      Yes, you can at least repeat. You didn’t answer any of my questions. And your gangs, sir, go with fascist symbols in Kiev. And they are sitting in the government. Plus three hundred professional mercenaries. Do you want to ask where they came from?
    2. tlauicol
      tlauicol 6 March 2014 10: 30
      0
      are there in accordance with the contract. Moreover, they have the right to increase their numbers to 25 thousand
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 6 March 2014 10: 33
      +2
      Quote: lykk

      I repeat once again: what do these gangs of invaders do. in Ukraine?

      These are not occupiers, but detachments of the liberation army from Bandera’s trash, which are in Kiev. So, that my little seropogonous Druch call a spade a spade and questions that they do there, ask the Kiev authorities.
    4. Gxash
      Gxash 6 March 2014 10: 41
      +1
      And who are these people? I mean people dressed in camouflage and with airsoft toy guns. I also see the Flag and the Coat of Arms of Ukraine.
      So they play Zarnitsa - nowadays fashionable hobby.
    5. ultra
      ultra 6 March 2014 10: 44
      0
      Quote: lykk
      It will be necessary - ask

      And they (Crimeans) at your interrogation?
    6. Support
      Support 6 March 2014 11: 06
      0
      These guys came to escort the invaders who have been in the Crimea since the beginning of the 50s.
    7. sarmat-4791
      sarmat-4791 6 March 2014 11: 17
      0
      I repeat once again: what do these gangs of invaders do. in Ukraine? Haha, "polite people" are guarding the strongest Ukrainian power in the world, otherwise "Russian tourists" will suddenly come and hang out Russian flags everywhere where they are not yet available.
  35. shibi
    shibi 6 March 2014 10: 25
    0
    Quote: Interlocutor
    Quote: demon184
    Yes, even Vladimir Vladimirovich took a hike to the campaign, he had to immediately shut off the gas to Kiev and he also wants to help the Nazis, maybe I don’t understand, but I would have shut off the valve immediately after the coup.

    Why, for one, violate contractual obligations? This gives the enemy an extra trump card when talking with us. The valve does not need to be shut off.

    You need to wait a bit when they close this tap themselves)
  36. shibi
    shibi 6 March 2014 10: 29
    0
    Quote: lykk
    Quote: Ribwort
    Quote: lykk
    And what do you want, de = facto, to annex Crimea?

    Yes, we do not want anything. For starters, you ask Crimeans what they want.


    It will be necessary - we ask. Do you care about Ukraine?
    I repeat once again: what do these gangs of invaders do. in Ukraine?

    There are no invaders.
    There are polite guys)
    Finish what the fathers did not finish.
    They are finishing Nazi scum, troubling the population of free Ukraine.
  37. NBN
    NBN 6 March 2014 11: 26
    0
    If only Putin did not give slack and did not pollinate from the Yanukovych ...
  38. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 6 March 2014 11: 42
    +1
    Putin Well done! keep it up and all the reptiles on the gallows, like the Maylanut and the like, and let the EU and the USA build their union of blue and under *** s, but without us.
    Our thinking cannot perceive their will of blue and terrorist ways, as well as the imposition of their blue prosperous thinking, and the maintenance of the slave system, which the United States is striving for.
  39. uhu189
    uhu189 6 March 2014 11: 50
    0
    After Glazyev’s statement on withdrawal from settlements in dollars in the case of the imposition of economic sanctions against Russia, Putin has already signed a death sentence - the GP does not forgive such things. Therefore, there is no turning back, and to all of us, by and large, too. It looks like the point of no return we have already passed this Tuesday. And although it seems to me that we are not ready for this yet, but by and large we had no choice, we still had to go through this. Now it remains only forward ...
  40. kaa_andrey
    kaa_andrey 6 March 2014 11: 52
    0
    "Where, in spite of many years of brainwashing, the belief that the common good is more primary than personal prosperity, a clear conscience is more important than benefits, and a person to a person is not a wolf, but" friend, comrade and brother. "
    I could agree, however, such as Serdyukov and company, Abramovich and associates, do not allow to say with confidence that I am "a friend, comrade and brother" ...
  41. Old warrant officer
    Old warrant officer 6 March 2014 11: 57
    0
    Quote: demon184
    Yes, even Vladimir Vladimirovich took a hike to the campaign, he had to immediately shut off the gas to Kiev and he also wants to help the Nazis, maybe I don’t understand, but I would have shut off the valve immediately after the coup.

    There are international treaties that provide for gas supplies. We now need to strictly follow the letter of the law, since we are repeating the illegitimacy of the Ukrainian government. Do not give extra reason to enemies. But from April 1 (a lucky number) we will start selling gas at a price already 2 times higher than the current one and again everything is in accordance with the law.
  42. Alexandr 2
    Alexandr 2 6 March 2014 12: 31
    +1
    Good article. It is written how it is actually done in the world. The West lives by animal laws. Who is soft devour him. Putin refuses to be zombied and does not want the West to zombie Russian people!
  43. Black
    Black 6 March 2014 13: 02
    0
    I am like the one who did not have time to fight .... WHERE IS THIS "lukk" ??? angry In the air only pendels weighed to him ...
    Moderators, you act inhumanly! Who managed in the morning, otovarili, but what about those who pulled themselves up for mass ???
  44. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 6 March 2014 13: 03
    0
    He is now 61 years old, a pension from senior civil servants from 70. After 4 years, Putin will leave and everything will end. Or at most one more term. Have fun, there will be something for the children-grandchildren to tell. I'm more worried that they will try to remove it in the near future. Painfully he pressed his tails.
  45. Andrew 447
    Andrew 447 6 March 2014 13: 16
    0
    And in continuation of the topic. Http://politikus.ru/events/14191-osvobozhdenie.html
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-140563.html
  46. Nikich
    Nikich 6 March 2014 14: 03
    0
    Quote: Alexandr 2
    Good article. It is written how it is actually done in the world. The West lives by animal laws. Who is soft devour him. Putin refuses to be zombied and does not want the West to zombie Russian people!

    Just received his sight? But seriously, the only country on which the United States has no influence is the DPRK
  47. PATTIY
    PATTIY 6 March 2014 17: 53
    0
    Quote: Neophyte
    The fact that Obama is a wimp, the Americans themselves admit:

    :))) Don’t threaten Central, drinking juice in his quarter.