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Snipers in Kiev were hired by the Maidan leaders - a telephone conversation between Catherine Ashton and the Estonian foreign ministers

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An audio recording appeared on the Internet in which, in a conversation with EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs Catherine Ashton, Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet confirms the connection between snipers on the Maidan and opposition leaders.




A record of the conversation of the EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs Catherine Ashton and Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet appeared on the Internet, which, as follows from the description, turned out to be at the disposal of the staff of the Security Service of Ukraine.

Both European politicians discuss their impressions about the situation in Ukraine during the conversation. During the conversation, Urmas Paet also mentions that the snipers who shot at people in Kiev were hired by the leaders of the Maidan.

Speaking Paet said that all the evidence that he showed evidence that the protesters and law enforcement officers were killed the same snipers.

“It is very disturbing that the new coalition does not want to investigate these events, and now it is becoming clearer that behind these snipers there was not Yanukovych, but someone from the new coalition,” he said.

Paet fears that if “this история will begin to live their lives, then immediately discredits the new coalition. ”
Full transcript of the conversation

Ashton: Hello. How are you doing?

Paet: I'm fine. How are you?

Ashton: It's all right. I wanted to talk to you and find out your impressions.

Paet: I returned only last night, so I was there only one day.

Ashton: Your impressions?

Paet: The impressions are sad. I met with representatives of the Party of Regions, also with representatives of the new coalition and a representative of civil society. Her name is Olga. You should know her.

Ashton: Yes, Olga. I know her.

Paet: My impressions are really sad. There is no trust, including trust in those politicians who are included in the coalition or left it. Representatives of Maidan and civil society say: "None of them should be part of the new government, they all have a dirty past." Olga and other representatives of civil society received proposals to join the new government, but Olga, for example, said that she was ready to join the government only with her team and with foreign experts in order to start a real health care reform. So the level of trust is actually zero. And this is all against the background of problems related to security, territorial integrity, the Crimea, and so on. The Party of Regions is in an absolutely depressed state. They said they accept the fact that there will be a new government, early elections will be held. There is a very strong pressure on members of parliament. During the night, “uninvited guests” come to the party members, journalists saw people with weapons beat a deputy. All this is really happening. Olga and members of the civil society are absolutely confident that people will not leave the streets until they see that real reforms have begun. It is not enough just to change the government. These are the main impressions of both the European Union and Estonia in particular. We must be ready to participate, along with others, in the financial package.

Ashton: Yes.

Paet: It is necessary to give them an absolutely clear signal that replacing the government will not be enough, real reforms and actions are needed to increase the level of trust. Otherwise, everything will end in tears. Representatives of the Party of Regions also told me the following: “You see, if people in the east of the country really wake up, they will begin to demand respect for their rights. Some in Donetsk already say:“ We can’t wait any longer for the Ukrainian occupation to end in Donetsk. This is a Russian city, we want Russia to intervene. "And so on. Such are the impressions, in short.

Ashton: Everything is very, very interesting. We are having a meeting with all the European Commissioners. We are discussing what can be done. These are financial packages in the short, medium and long term. Where to get money, what to offer investment packages, business leaders and so on. From a political point of view: what resources we have to help civil society, and what measures need to be taken. I told representatives of civil society, Yatsenyuku, Klitschko and everyone I met yesterday: “We can provide you with people who know how to carry out political and economic reforms. Countries close to Ukraine can help carry out large-scale internal reforms. In these matters, we we have tremendous experience that we can share. I told the people on the Maidan: "Yes, you want real reforms. If you want to make them shorter and faster, you need to start the process. It is necessary to fight corruption, it is difficult. It will be necessary to select people who will work before the elections. "I spoke with Olga that she could become the Minister of Health. Such people are needed in this situation. But I also told them:" If you will only build barricades, blocking buildings, then we will not be able to provide money because we need partners. "

Paet: Absolutely.

Ashton: I told opposition leaders who would become members of the government: “You can go to Maidan, you even have to communicate with Maidan, but you have to make sure that all people feel protected. I told the Party of Regions representatives:” lay flowers on the places of death of people, you have to show that you understand what happened here. Now you are angry, but people who have suffered, including corruption, have similar feelings. "Many grieve for the dead. And in general, there are too many sorrows and experiences in the city. It is necessary to normalize the situation. Your observations are also very interesting.

Paet: All this is true. The only person about whom representatives of civil society spoke positively is Poroshenko.

Ashton: Yes. Yes.

Paet: He enjoys a certain trust among people on the Maidan and among civil society. Olga also said that, according to all available evidence, people who were killed by snipers on both sides, among policemen and people from the street, were the same snipers who killed people on both sides.

Ashton: Yes.

Paet: She showed me the photos, referring to the opinion of doctors who talk about the same handwriting, the type of bullets. And the fact that the new coalition does not want to investigate the exact circumstances of what happened is all the more wary of people. There is a rapidly growing understanding that behind these snipers there was not Yanukovych, but behind them was someone from the new coalition.

Ashton: I heard they want to investigate. It is interesting. Go on.

Paet: This is an extremely annoying factor. This discredits the new coalition from the start.

Ashton: They need to be very careful. People require major changes. But it is necessary that the mechanism functioned. They (the new coalition) must simultaneously be activists, doctors and politicians. It is very difficult. They need to hold on for at least a few weeks, then there will be elections. I plan to return early next week. Maybe on Monday.

Paet: It is very important that people from Europe, and in general the West, demonstrate their intentions.

Ashton: A large group stays on Friday. William Hague - the other day, and I - on Monday.

Paet: I heard that Canadian Foreign Minister arrives on Friday, and William Burns has already been there.
Ashton: I know. Thank you, my friend.


Paet: Thank you too. All the best. Successful trip to Australia.

Ashton: What? Australia? Not. I have to postpone the trip because I have to deal with Ukraine.
Paet: Good. Goodbye.

Ashton: Goodbye.
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  1. Gagarin
    Gagarin 5 March 2014 18: 06 New
    +41
    The awl in a bag you can’t hide ...
    1. Tumbleweed
      Tumbleweed 5 March 2014 18: 17 New
      +29
      Quote: Gagarin
      The awl in a bag you can’t hide ...

      Especially when the specialists begin to work, not catch flies, and politicians have steel eggs, not brains softened with vodka ... Now there is a good accumulation of material for the international trial of the putschists and their sponsors, they just merge a little, when the "clowns" start flirting winked
      It seems to me a good rebuff for those politicians from the West that they are "tearing to Ukraine", like unobtrusively warning the "junta" of snipers prepared ... Do you want to be a "Hero"? winked
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 5 March 2014 18: 51 New
      -67
      Oh well.
      even if this is our provocation, now the other side will have to launder :-)
      1. 1goose3
        1goose3 5 March 2014 20: 28 New
        +17
        Oh well.
        even if this is our provocation, now the other side will have to launder :-)

        Who are you? Name yourself ..., fool crying one thing is encouraging and encouraging that you, personally, are the most oak among you.
        1. Yars
          Yars 5 March 2014 21: 50 New
          +13
          notice how skillfully he trolls here, in the beginning he is gaining stars, probably with patriotic sayings, so as to earn reputations, and then he distributes BOSH on important issues! minus such comrades, mercilessly
        2. CALL.
          CALL. 6 March 2014 03: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: 1goose3
          Who are you? Call yourself ... fool crying is one thing that makes you happy and encouraged that you, personally, are the most oak among you.

          There is no name or place of residence on the profile. Mister X.
      2. vo.dum
        vo.dum 5 March 2014 21: 11 New
        +3
        Yes ??? and what’s the benefit of Russia? With the legitimate authorities, we outplayed them ... and it was a matter of time for Ukraine to become a part of the CU ... so look for those who benefit from it ... and now Russia still has to to work hard and invest in order to draw at least part of Ukraine into its orbit ...
      3. Imigrantt
        Imigrantt 6 March 2014 00: 12 New
        +5
        Hay passed through a horse !!!!! Everything is normal with your brains !!!! It’s a pity there isn’t such a clever in Kerch !!! Although they were already there, they were really lost, or fled !!! Bitch provocateur !!! Scrap would be in your place of the sciatic, and heat the outer end with a blowtorch so that no one would pull out, and you would be warm !!!!! soldier
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    4. Slavapom
      Slavapom 5 March 2014 19: 02 New
      +50
      Always respected the opinion of Dmitry "Goblin" Puchkov

      So this time, everything is clearly and on the shelves laid out. Tough, but absolutely true.
    5. gfs84
      gfs84 5 March 2014 19: 03 New
      +23
      Wow, our specialists eat their bread ...)))
      What Europe yay..a pinched that they are already working against their proteges?

      The Estonian Foreign Ministry confirmed the authenticity of a recording of the conversation on the Internet, where the head of European diplomacy Catherine Ashton and Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet accuse Euromaidan leaders of hiring snipers who shot dozens of people during the riots in Kiev. “According to all available evidence, the people who were killed by snipers on both sides, among the police and the people on the street, were the same snipers who killed people on both sides,” RIA Novosti quoted Mr. Paet as saying.
      1. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 5 March 2014 19: 32 New
        +15
        Which country, such and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, to confirm the veracity of exposing overheard conversations, is Tryndets, comrades. Thank God, our not-so-one statement that the "tigers" with Russian numbers in the Crimea is a photo montage, as well as the "polite people (01.04-even in uniform) -that is the aerobatics of diplomacy. Keep it up, Foreign Ministry, not become like the mumbles of Shevarnadze and Kozyrev !!!
        1. Staff Sergeant
          Staff Sergeant 5 March 2014 21: 32 New
          +10
          Do not remember these two creatures Shevarnadze and Kozyrev! I hope both die in agony, scum!
          1. gfs84
            gfs84 5 March 2014 21: 53 New
            +14
            But for this I am proud of the Foreign Minister)))

            Ah yes Lavrov, oh yes ... Our man!)))

            In Paris, there is a meeting between Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and US Secretary of State John Kerry. It is expected that the most discussed will be the issue regarding the current situation in Ukraine. The US delegation sat for a long time at the negotiating table. Mr. Kerry lamented that there were many people on his left, but not very many on his right. To this, Mr. Lavrov remarked: “Right Sector”- ITAR-TASS reports.
            1. DyadyshkaPrimus
              DyadyshkaPrimus 6 March 2014 03: 27 New
              +2
              Well Lavrov, the feeling of what and when to say excellent! smile
        2. velikoros-xnumx
          velikoros-xnumx 6 March 2014 12: 48 New
          0
          Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
          do not be like mummies Shevarnadze and Kozyrev !!!

          What kind of mumbles do you completely use the words of the Russian language ... more precisely, such definitions are suitable - traitors, immoral, unprincipled scum who are ready to sell their mother, and rent their wife and daughter on favorable terms.
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 5 March 2014 20: 04 New
        +9
        Quote: gfs84
        Wow, our specialists eat their bread ...)))

        I think the conclusions are correct after Georgia 08.08.08. !!!
        War is not always won by weapons! yes
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 5 March 2014 20: 42 New
          +2
          Not good news!
          According to Interfax, citing a military-diplomatic source in Kiev, the so-called soldiers of fortune were staying in the city around 300. They have extensive experience in combat operations, most of them were under private contracts in Iraq, Afghanistan and other countries. He did not specify the nationality of mercenaries, noting that most of them are from the United States.
          1. AVIATOR36662
            AVIATOR36662 5 March 2014 21: 08 New
            +2
            Absolutely normal news. And, by and large, this is news for ordinary people, for the general public and "light" in all media. For people of the organization / special, this is important working information that everyone should know at the right time (and abroad too).
          2. vo.dum
            vo.dum 5 March 2014 21: 14 New
            +5
            I think there are already our specialists there ... we'll see who smarter and more polite someone ...
          3. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 6 March 2014 02: 45 New
            +1
            somehow without comment there was a video with unknown well-equipped brow in Donetsk hu who knew this?
      3. gfs84
        gfs84 5 March 2014 20: 26 New
        +12
        Well, now they will merge the Baranuss ...

        The Russian Foreign Ministry is surprised at the refusal of EU representatives to comment on the recording of a conversation between EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Catherine Ashton and Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet that snipers on Independence Square in Kiev could be hired by someone from the opposition leadership. “We drew attention to the recordings that appeared on the Internet. The EU’s refusal to comment on them is surprising, because not so long ago, senior representatives of EU countries actively commented on Victoria Nuland’s audio recording, ”a source at the ITAR-TASS diplomatic agency quoted him as saying.

        Only late, with their silence they confirm that they are all smeared with everything)))
        Wow they did not expect this)))
        1. gfs84
          gfs84 5 March 2014 20: 31 New
          +6
          I can’t understand the Estonian, is it necessary to repair the tank?)))
          At first they pass the baroness (in the sense of the whole of Europe), now this:

          Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet stated the need for an independent investigation into the deaths during the rally in Kiev on Independence Square, ITAR-TASS reports.

          The states promised military assistance to them today ...
          Or did they urgently stop believing in the United States? ......
          1. Wellych
            Wellych 5 March 2014 21: 08 New
            +4
            The states promised military assistance to them today ...
            Or did they urgently stop believing in the United States?

            As an option, he sincerely believed in the ideals of democracy. This sometimes happens. Or maybe he wants a discount on gas.
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 6 March 2014 11: 26 New
              0
              maybe activation of an influence agent?
      4. aviator_IAS
        aviator_IAS 5 March 2014 21: 24 New
        +6
        By the way, they all refer that the record was made by the SBU of Ukraine. Something is doubtful. After Yushchenko, they have a complete mess there. Are there really honest people left there. Surprised as an Estonian, without a shadow of doubt K. Ashton proves the non-involvement of Berkut. That's how they say from whom they did not expect help, so it is from them. I think he will have problems with further work. It is impossible to exclude the option of the planned "discharge" of maydowns. This they want to withdraw from the game "Right Sector" - accusing them of shooting their own. The West quickly realized their mistakes, and are trying to "knock out" the main trump cards of the Russian media: - the presence of fascists in the ranks of the Maidan and the lawless Muzychko. These two factors have greatly spoiled the reputation of peaceful protest. And as if by magic, one day there is an interception of the conversation and the so-called. Muzychko's "press conference," where the mother of the beaten prosecutor reports to him as a schoolboy. It was still necessary to film where he apologizes, and says - I won’t be like that anymore. They want to show this that they found council on this scumbag. Europe can sleep peacefully. All other characters of this big top are white and fluffy.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 5 March 2014 21: 56 New
          +2
          Quote: aviator_IAS
          By the way, they all refer that the record was made by the SBU of Ukraine. Something is doubtful.
          I won’t even bother with a source of information, let the West puzzle ...
          The Estonian Foreign Minister is not yet ready to comment on this entry, saying that he needs to get acquainted with it. "It is extremely annoying that such wiretapping was conducted at all. This conversation was not downloaded today by chance, Paet was quoted by news agencies. - My conversation with Ashton took place last week immediately after visiting Ukraine. At that time I was already in Estonia. "

          Representative Katherine Ashton declined to comment on the leak.
          Read more: http://vpk-news.ru/news/19423
    6. APASUS
      APASUS 5 March 2014 19: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: Gagarin
      The awl in a bag you can’t hide ...

      That's what Putin needed to say at a press conference, not jokes about Kolomoisky!
      . Olga also said that, according to all available evidence, the people who were killed by snipers on both sides, among the policemen and people from the street, were the same snipers who killed people on both sides.

      Ashton: Yes.

      Paet: She showed me the photos, referring to the opinion of doctors who talk about the same handwriting, the type of bullets. And the fact that the new coalition does not want to investigate the exact circumstances of what happened is all the more wary of people. There is a rapidly growing understanding that behind these snipers there was not Yanukovych, but behind them was someone from the new coalition.
      1. gfs84
        gfs84 5 March 2014 19: 12 New
        +12
        I think that if he said this, then Europe would screech together that he was blocking "his" Yanuk ...
        The task was precisely what ordinary people in Kiev would have come to and started talking about it - here it’s more difficult to cover ...
        I repeat everything IMHO)))
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 5 March 2014 19: 39 New
          0
          Quote: gfs84
          The task was precisely what ordinary people in Kiev would have come to and started talking about it - here it’s more difficult to cover ...

          You are from the pages of the press.
          How can ordinary people come to this if they have been “brainwashed” for all 20 years of independence? Yes, they simply cannot allow this!
          You look. Yanukovych essentially betrayed his Golden Eagle. And those snipers shooting at people on both sides of the barricades are attributed to him.
          What kind of insight is involved, because he is already openly threatened by the Hague court
      2. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 5 March 2014 19: 35 New
        +1
        Well, this is certainly not recognition, but something. However, it is likely that this STAR simply crumpled something like "yea ..." in the intervals of the Estonian's speech. Need to listen in the original.
      3. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 5 March 2014 22: 07 New
        +4
        Do you understand a colleague? From the lips of the GDP, this would be a stumble and slander of the bloody gebni, and so the EU is silent, which means the truth.
        1. Russ69
          Russ69 5 March 2014 22: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: cherkas.oe
          Do you understand a colleague? From the lips of the GDP, this would be a stumble and slander of the bloody gebni, and so the EU is silent, which means the truth.

          Why is the EU silent? They have already confirmed this conversation ...
          1. Corsair
            Corsair 5 March 2014 22: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: Russ69
            Why is the EU silent? They have already confirmed this conversation ...

            Yes, they confirmed the fact of the conversation (we tried to still unlock laughing ), but there was no assessment of the "leaked" information about the involvement (NOT involvement) of the opposition.
            As well as statements of interest in conducting an investigation and placement of emphasis in the activities of the "new Vlada" ...
      4. CALL.
        CALL. 6 March 2014 04: 05 New
        0
        Quote: APASUS
        She showed me photographs and referred to the opinion of doctors who spoke about the same handwriting, the type of bullets. And people are becoming increasingly wary of the fact that the new coalition does not want to investigate the exact circumstances of what happened. The understanding is growing rapidly that it was not Yanukovych who stood behind these snipers, but someone from the new coalition who stood behind them.

        Previously, she said that all killed peaceful protesters were killed by the Golden Eagle: - "This is evidenced by the nature of the bullet holes."
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    8. Stalker
      Stalker 5 March 2014 19: 51 New
      +28
      The awl in a bag you can’t hide ...

      Who has so strong nerves to invite her on a date ?? wassat
      Personally, so much alcohol will not fit me !!! belay
      1. vo.dum
        vo.dum 5 March 2014 21: 16 New
        +8
        This is probably a rabbit woman ...- rabbit wah !!!
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        2. Stalker
          Stalker 5 March 2014 21: 36 New
          +4
          This is probably a rabbit woman ...- rabbit wah !!!

          Judging by the face, this is the skunk's wife, who farted in front of her hare !!!! wassat crying laughing
      2. sarmat-4791
        sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 21: 39 New
        +4
        Where do they breed such mares? Here in Crimea they showed another of the OSCE on the press (Miyatovich or what?) - the same horse face.
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        2. Stalker
          Stalker 5 March 2014 21: 58 New
          +3
          Where do they breed such mares? Here in Crimea they showed another of the OSCE on the press (Miyatovich or what?) - the same horse face.

          Rebuked our grandfathers wassat lol ... It was necessary to actively improve their gene pool in 1945 !!!!
          1. mainu
            mainu 6 March 2014 01: 04 New
            +1
            Stalker
            Where do they breed such mares? Here in Crimea they showed another of the OSCE on the press (Miyatovich or what?) - the same horse face.

            (Information from Wikipedia) "Catherine Margaret Ashton, Baroness Ashton (English Catherine Margaret Ashton, Baroness Ashton of Upholland, March 20, 1956, Apholland, Lancashire) - British and European political and public figure, the first High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, ethnic Jew. She was appointed to this post on November 19, 2009 at the summit of 27 leaders of the European Council. Together with the appointment of the High Representative, she became the first vice president of the European Commission - the latest appointment must be confirmed by the European Parliament. "
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        4. Stalker
          Stalker 5 March 2014 22: 14 New
          +2
          (Miyatovich or what?)
          Pay attention to the eyes !!!!
          1. sarmat-4791
            sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 23: 14 New
            +2
            Such faces cannot even be cured with urinotherapy !!!
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        5. Tersky
          Tersky 5 March 2014 22: 52 New
          +7
          Quote: sarmat-4791
          Where do they breed such mares?

          At the same stud farm where this mare:
        6. CALL.
          CALL. 6 March 2014 04: 25 New
          0
          Quote: sarmat-4791
          Where do they breed such mares? Here in Crimea they showed another of the OSCE on the press (Miyatovich or what?) - the same horse face.

          So they in the Middle Ages burned their beauties at the stake, like witches. Here such as Ashton remained.
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      4. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 5 March 2014 22: 12 New
        +6
        Quote: Stalker
        Personally, so much alcohol will not fit me !!! belay

        Why are you lying, look how funny and temperamental you are, and fear teeth, as we say in ... do not give repeat
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        2. Stalker
          Stalker 5 March 2014 22: 21 New
          +2
          Why are you lying, look how funny and temperamental you are, and fear teeth, as we say in ... do not give

          Oleg !! , I will give you a bulletproof vest with which you (instead of a newspaper) cover her face trying (hopelessly) to improve their gene pool !!!! lol
          1. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 5 March 2014 22: 35 New
            +2
            Quote: Stalker
            You (instead of the newspaper) will cover her face trying (hopelessly) to improve their gene pool !!!! lol

            NOT !!!! Ivanovich, I’m just not afraid of teeth, and the rest of the piers in her photo is not visible. And then through the bronik how to give? And let their Estonian gene pool improve laughing
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            2. Stalker
              Stalker 6 March 2014 18: 30 New
              0
              And then through the bronik how to give?

              First you need to raise your teeth !!! wassat laughing
      5. Garik
        Garik 5 March 2014 22: 15 New
        +1
        And she went into politics that there was nobody who had so much alcohol in her whole life.
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        2. Stalker
          Stalker 5 March 2014 22: 33 New
          +1
          And she went into politics that there was nobody who had so much alcohol in her whole life.

          Now it’s clear why Fins During Soviet times, they got out of sightseeing buses in Vyborg and KVASILI !!! They tried to forget the look of the scared-!!!! wassat
      6. Tersky
        Tersky 5 March 2014 22: 48 New
        +6
        Quote: Stalker
        Who has so strong nerves to invite her on a date ??

        Yes, they are all "handsome" there ...
        1. Tatarus
          Tatarus 6 March 2014 03: 15 New
          0
          The seizure of power by mutants and aliens in Europe. So here you see suddenly and shoot with a fright.
      7. Tatarus
        Tatarus 6 March 2014 03: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Stalker
        Stalker


        Yes, this is a female burer.
    9. Grbear
      Grbear 5 March 2014 21: 30 New
      +1
      After reviewing and thinking, I'm sorry I have the audacity, the "drain" of not the most "beautiful" ones begins (I’m not talking about Ash), but disassemblies at the EU level are coming. hi
    10. 222222
      222222 5 March 2014 21: 50 New
      +2
      This is Shiloh at the international tribunal ... and those above her ..
    11. self-propelled
      self-propelled 5 March 2014 21: 51 New
      +1
      Quote: Gagarin
      The awl in a bag you can’t hide ...

      take a look at no. on "youtub'e" you can find a complete "analysis" of shooting snipers on the Maidan (up to who shot where). by the way, today in the news on the First there was something similar ...
    12. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 6 March 2014 01: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Gagarin
      The awl in a bag you can’t hide ...


      What is it to us? Even if you catch this souku by the hand when she pays snipers for every murdered person, she will say that she was forced by Yanukovych and everyone will believe her, that is, all Western newspapers will write about it. I won’t be surprised if she turns out to be personally involved ... And judging by the fact that the conversation between them just went on these topics, both of them participated, and all the rest, such as Keri and Makeins, were somehow aware of it.
  2. erased
    erased 5 March 2014 18: 08 New
    +11
    And what? So hto something slept? Since 1993, snipers of the "hawks of the world" around the world have been fulfilling their tasks, biting people and playing the role of a capsule. But the already prepared crowd detonates. We look forward to continuing the banquet.
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 5 March 2014 18: 27 New
      +11
      Quote: erased
      Starting from 1993 year snipers


      ... earlier, much earlier ...
      Recall the prebaldon 1991goda. Earlier Romania Ceausescu ...
      1. erased
        erased 5 March 2014 18: 37 New
        +4
        Yes, Romania is true. They have a lot of experience.
      2. Humpty
        Humpty 5 March 2014 18: 55 New
        +7
        Quote: Rus2012
        Quote: erased
        Starting from 1993 year snipers


        ... earlier, much earlier ...
        Recall the prebaldon 1991goda. Earlier Romania Ceausescu ...


        90th year provocation in Baku of the Azerbaijani authorities with the killings of Soviet troops, Vilnius 91st year. The scripts are similar.
  3. zanoza
    zanoza 5 March 2014 18: 11 New
    +4
    Who pays, he orders the music.
    They do not interfere (from their point of view), they conduct.
  4. TT1968
    TT1968 5 March 2014 18: 12 New
    +13
    Another one revelation from the series "They Will Show It in the West" !!! And knowing the truth, they all trumpeted about the “criminal power of Yanukovych exterminating their own citizens”! Well, aren't you scum ???
    1. alex-s
      alex-s 5 March 2014 20: 55 New
      +2
      Bastards of course! It is a pity that this information did not appear in the Ukrainian media! And probably already will not appear.
      1. yur
        yur 5 March 2014 21: 48 New
        +2
        Quote: alex-s
        Bastards of course! It is a pity that this information did not appear in the Ukrainian media! And probably already will not appear.
        Well, if this information was passed on to everyone by the well-known Olga from Maidan (who was read to the post of Minister of Health), then I think about it there is already known to many. The question is how will they respond to this?
      2. Dyagilev
        Dyagilev 6 March 2014 00: 08 New
        +1
        Appeared. More precisely, as my comment on the article under the nickname Korney Chutkovsky http://ura-inform.com/en/politics/2014/02/20/chislo-zhertv-snajperov-rastet-v-go
        stinitse-ukraina-uzhe-13-trupov And you see how they reacted - not grateful. But seriously: they, in fact, do not care.
  5. tennis
    tennis 5 March 2014 18: 14 New
    +2
    Who would doubt that.
  6. andrei332809
    andrei332809 5 March 2014 18: 16 New
    +4
    "We can provide you with people who know how to carry out political and economic reforms.

    and there will be a "chpok" Ukraine. experience of the early 90s did not teach anything?
    1. TT1968
      TT1968 5 March 2014 21: 33 New
      +9
      Only our former Minister of Finance Simeon Dyankov would not have sent! We also advertised him as an economist of the world class, an expert from the World Bank who will lead Bulgaria out of the financial crisis. In the end, he was dismissed in disgrace! So I deduced that people were desperate, For three and a half years, inflation grew uncontrollably, and incomes were frozen. It got to the point that people could not pay for the energy they consumed. Some have come to public self-immolation !!! These are IKSPERDY! What a direct natural disaster !!!
      And he, by the way, really teaches economic sciences in Russia !!!
      PUSH IT HIM YET NOT LATE !!!
      1. sarmat-4791
        sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 23: 03 New
        +1
        Here they are in you probably in Bulgaria. We just have different scales and the inertia is large
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  7. major071
    major071 5 March 2014 18: 21 New
    +16
    If not a “duck,” then Ashton’s horse sat in a deep puddle, and, well, 3,14 a darling from Estonia. I am inclined to believe that this is true. hi
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 5 March 2014 18: 27 New
      +17
      Quote: major071
      then Ashton’s horse sat in a deep puddle,

      hi hi
      not too many two-legged horses then got divorced?
      1. major071
        major071 5 March 2014 18: 36 New
        +9
        hi Andrew!
        I understand that Ashton and Sobchachka had one ancestor and clearly not a monkey wassat
        1. andrei332809
          andrei332809 5 March 2014 18: 44 New
          +3
          Quote: major071
          the ancestor was one and clearly not a monkey

          poor Przhevalsky. he did not think that his discovery would be exploited recourse
        2. olegkrava
          olegkrava 5 March 2014 19: 19 New
          0
          You have an eyelid, not Sobchachki, but Doggies.
      2. 1goose3
        1goose3 5 March 2014 20: 34 New
        +1
        Well, a cow! Therefore, it survives.
      3. Tatarus
        Tatarus 6 March 2014 03: 17 New
        0
        A centaur has a horse's body and a human head. Here the anticentaur is the opposite.
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 5 March 2014 18: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: major071
      well, and 3,14 a village from Estonia

      ... I personally doubt the degree of moronicity (or whether or not) ... Especially since I had to arrange a recording ...
      In general, the record is notable ... we pinched the aunt, now, willingly or not, it will come to "expose" laughing bully
    3. pensioner
      pensioner 5 March 2014 18: 49 New
      +5
      Quote: major071
      I am inclined to believe that this is true.

      Vova! Of course it’s true, but the most disgusting thing is that this does not mean ANYTHING. Nothing at all.
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        1. pensioner
          pensioner 5 March 2014 22: 05 New
          +2
          Quote: major071
          And what 3,14 will say
          You know, somehow, not a fuck ....

          Actually, I would like them to you ...
          1. major071
            major071 5 March 2014 22: 24 New
            +7
            As for you ... what are our years laughing The time is already coming when we are in .... and nah ... and the rest. Just believe, we are like that, the West won’t understand us, but we don’t understand x. This is of course figurative, but the point is that we don’t have to tease, we don’t have to blame everything. The West does not understand us, they see only the tip of the iceberg, and they think that is all. But huh hu not ho ho? angry
      2. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 5 March 2014 22: 17 New
        +1
        Quote: retired
        it does not mean ANYTHING. Nothing at all.

        Yes, unfortunately you are right. recourse
    4. Alex 241
      Alex 241 5 March 2014 19: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: major071
      If not a duck,

      Prvet Volod, this is not a duck, I have no words to describe this unearthly beauty! lol
      1. major071
        major071 5 March 2014 19: 24 New
        +8
        Hi Sanya!
        As I understood from the photo, the first parents are Ashton and she is young, then she grew up in the second photo, but the teeth are the same! wassat
      2. hrych
        hrych 5 March 2014 20: 55 New
        +8
        The girl is certainly beautiful (in her own way), but the list of requirements for the Ukrainian government from the IMF is already ready for economic assistance (I can’t vouch for reliability, but in the case of Greece, too).
        1. Raise the retirement age - by two years for men, by three - for women. Eliminate the right to early retirement and the principle of counting a year in two at hazardous enterprises.
        2. Eliminate the institution of special pension benefits, which are allocated to scientists, civil servants, managers of state enterprises. Limit pensions to working pensioners. Set the retirement age to army officers in 60 years.
        3. Increase the price of gas for municipal enterprises by 50%, twice for private consumers. Increase the cost of electricity by 40%. Allow pricing utilities. Allow price increases according to gas prices. Increase the excise on gasoline to 60 euros.
        4. Cancel benefits and increase transport taxes by 50%. Do not raise the cost of living, balance the social situation at the expense of point subsidies.
        5. Privatize all mines and eliminate all subsidies. Cancel benefits for utilities, transport and other things. Cancellation of state support of childbirth, free food, textbooks.
        6. Limit the practice of simplified taxation. Abolish the practice of VAT exemption in rural areas. Oblige pharmacies and pharmacists to pay VAT.
        7. Cancel the moratorium on the sale of agricultural land. Eliminate subsidies for pork and chicken producers.
        8. Reduce the composition of ministries to 14. Leave only one deputy prime minister. To abolish the post of Minister of Cabinet Ministers. Eliminate six ministries. Subordinate all state bodies to ministries. The tax administration, customs, state property fund must enter the Ministry of Finance.
        9. Limit excessive wages of public officials.
        10. Unemployment benefits should be accrued only after a minimum period of six months of work. Pay sick leave at the level of 70% of the salary, but not lower than the subsistence level. Pay sick leave only from the third day of illness.
        1. sarmat-4791
          sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 20: 59 New
          +3
          To receive economic assistance, a list of requirements for the Ukrainian government from the IMF is already ready. This "government" already offers the country as a prostitute in a gangbang to large concerns and NATO, in parts and as a whole, with the transfer of the country to the Latin alphabet (debilitation of the country).
          1. es.d
            es.d 5 March 2014 22: 01 New
            +2
            Quote: sarmat-4791
            This "government" already offers the country as a prostitute in a gangbang to large concerns and NATO, in parts and as a whole, with the transfer of the country to the Latin alphabet (debilitation of the country).

            Yatsenyuk already said that the "government" agrees to all the conditions of the IMF. Probably the "golden rain", the same. And you about some banal gangbang. wassat
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        3. pensioner
          pensioner 5 March 2014 22: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: hrych
          Pay sick leave only from the third day of illness.

          Those. 2 days we wait and find out: is it a disease? And when the doctor on the 3rd day says: "To the morgue!" close the sick leave right there. Strong...
      3. TT1968
        TT1968 5 March 2014 21: 38 New
        0
        Rather, it is:
        1. KOH
          KOH 6 March 2014 05: 25 New
          0
          Please do not insult the animals, they are much smarter and prettier, and you are on a par with this quasi-muzzle ...
      4. Trofimov Andrey
        Trofimov Andrey 5 March 2014 23: 20 New
        -1
        I realized she’s a baibak!
    5. bomg.77
      bomg.77 5 March 2014 19: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: major071
      If not a “duck,” then Ashton’s horse sat in a deep puddle, and 3,14 a doc with Es
      There is a lull on Ukrainian sites, although the whole world is already discussing this)) The Estonian Foreign Ministry confirmed that the conversation took place!
    6. St Petrov
      St Petrov 5 March 2014 19: 59 New
      +1
      not a duck, in my opinion the Estonian (or another, but not the essence) Foreign Ministry confirmed the authenticity of the record
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    8. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 5 March 2014 21: 45 New
      +2
      The Estonian Foreign Ministry has already confirmed the authenticity of the record. Which further strengthens me in the version of the planned "drain". I didn’t even think that they would soak up the radicals so quickly, but the Western strategist knows better. It can be seen that in a hurry. Kiev authorities now need to distance themselves from the Nazis as much as possible and gain the confidence of the south-west of Ukraine. Time is running out, the country has practically anarchy, and we urgently need to “wash ourselves”. Will they really start hunting for Yarosh? Or will he just pretend to have gone underground? He should have taught history and freshened up what happened to Julius Ryom and his assault squads.
      1. es.d
        es.d 5 March 2014 22: 19 New
        +2
        Quote: aviator_IAS
        Kiev authorities now need to distance themselves from the Nazis as much as possible and gain the trust of the south-west of Ukraine

        How do you imagine this? Himself hang something. Cut your own cUk repeat In the upcoming elections, one hope is the control of militants. Even if the votes of Crimea are not taken into account, if 30% of the population vote, I think the victory of the government is not guaranteed.
  8. Des10
    Des10 5 March 2014 18: 30 New
    +2
    After (and before) the press conference of the US Secretary of State in Kiev --- all this info (about snipers) - they will, like God's dew, wipe themselves off and again for their own.
  9. Luga
    Luga 5 March 2014 18: 31 New
    +12
    I am interested in who intercepts negotiations so beautifully: Snowden, or what? smile
    The ease with which the negotiations of the geyropa leaders now become accessible for general listening somehow annoys me. Only a powerful intelligence agency is capable of such a thing, and to publicize negotiations means, in fact, to open the leak channel, risking that it will immediately be blocked. Conclusions: either someone went all-in, there is nothing to lose and everything is at stake, or the channel is so wide that it cannot be blocked. In the latter case, it is easier for geyropic cones in the square to shout.

    And according to the content of the conversation - I propose to confer on both participants the honorary title of "Captain Evidence" and praise for naivety and sincerity. And buy everyone a medal in the ass.

    And yet, who and for what purpose is it broadcasting? what
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 5 March 2014 18: 42 New
      +6
      Quote: Luga
      I am interested in who intercepts negotiations so beautifully: Snowden, or what?

      In the first record appeared, on RT, we draw conclusions ...
    2. vlum
      vlum 5 March 2014 18: 50 New
      +2
      According to the new head of the SBU, there are a lot of FSB agents and some vague foreign citizens there. Findings?
      - Betrayal of the top does not mean that the whole service is completely selling.
      - Somewhere in the service, they really work undercover quite a pro.

      And the main conclusion of the goal is to drain such information as if hinting that the boiling point should not decrease. The process must be completed. There is also other news working in this direction. There are irritant faces. But what really surprises is the behavior of the "stimuli" - do they realize that they are being manipulated? Or do they have the same stalemate as the previous government?
      1. vlum
        vlum 5 March 2014 19: 00 New
        +7
        And separately I heard the expression of Rabbit:
        This is a kamikaze government


        Does he think with his head? Or did he remember the word from the time of the Soviet school, but didn’t understand it? Kamikaze is not a synonym for suicide, but a death signification of the purpose for which they are directed at the cost of their own lives. For a reasonable person: a synonym for kamikaze is a martyr, a suicide bomber.

        If Yatsenyuk calls his ministers the kamikaze government, then this is the death of everything they can get to !!!
        1. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac 5 March 2014 20: 01 New
          +4
          what kind of kamikaze are they - to collect dough and fade, kamikaze - to stop the enemy at the cost of their lives, to die for their country. the same 3,14 .... they want to get buns for themselves, but they’re not going to give guns to others and die for their country
          1. vlum
            vlum 5 March 2014 20: 08 New
            +1
            Yes
            but pay attention you say stop the enemy “But then who are they fighting with?” With the enemy or with your own people? Who is the enemy for them, where is this enemy, whom they are going to destroy with absolute success, even if at the cost of their own, but still only political, not physical life ???
            And Maidan for these kamikaze is the same enemy as the whole of Ukraine !!!
        2. flc9800
          flc9800 5 March 2014 20: 25 New
          +1
          Yes there zheppa instead of the head!
    3. Orik
      Orik 5 March 2014 20: 02 New
      +1
      And yet, who and for what purpose is it broadcasting?

      Natsik is a pi.ndosovsky project, the geyropa and Russia are interested in their discharge.
      1. Luga
        Luga 5 March 2014 20: 20 New
        +5
        Quote: Orik
        Natsik is a pi.ndosovsky project, the geyropa and Russia are interested in their discharge.

        This is exactly what is interesting - who exactly merges. Either Russia intercepts and broadcasts it, or the geyropists themselves dictate, record, and then they themselves publish it, posing as an interception.
        After such a quick confirmation by Estonian ( laughing ) by the authorities of the authenticity of the conversation, and without reservation and twisting w ... sing, I rather tend to the second option.
    4. cherkas.oe
      cherkas.oe 5 March 2014 22: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: Luga
      And yet, who and for what purpose is it broadcasting?

      It's simple, this is part of the script. Now Julia, Poroshenko, and a couple of Aligarhs are entering the Arena, those who will finally merge Ukraine.
  10. leon-iv
    leon-iv 5 March 2014 18: 31 New
    +3
    Estonian Foreign Ministry Confirms Authentication of Paet and Ashton's Conversation

    The burning farts of Svidomo flew to Mars
  11. staryivoin
    staryivoin 5 March 2014 18: 32 New
    +13
    Yes, gentlemen, Eurodemocrats! And what did you think that white and fluffy bunnies came to power in Kiev in front of which the people of Ukraine laid a green path? You know better than us how, by what means and by whose tip the "Great Maydanuta Revolution in Ukraine" was made. It is enough to go to the mirror and carefully consider what you see there. We have to wait a little longer and the “lumps” will understand how they threw them brutally. I do not presume to predict what will happen in Kiev at least by December 2014 of the year, exactly one year after the start of the Maidan.
    I can only say one thing the Russians are not European deputies. We will do everything to protect Russians and Ukrainians who consider us their "brothers" in Ukraine.
    In the 1943-45 years, we learned to burn Tigers and Panthers, we learn to burn your Abrams and Challengers all the more so. And please do not forget about “Kuzkin’s mother”. And these are not threats, like yours against Russia with various sanctions, this is just a warning. And finally, let's dance?
    1. Com T-64a
      Com T-64a 5 March 2014 20: 30 New
      +8
      Dear, 90x-2005 draft tankers are a special topic, of which only 40 percent REALLY went through training on working tanks, and 5 percent didn’t see them at all ... I know what I'm talking about, we had a tank army at the training ground - almost 3 000 tanks, and so, 80% of the rink’s floor has grown into the ground, at the engine rooms - BIRCHES !!! I swear !!! "Cheburashki" (joystick on the sight) are broken for two microcircuits, for which outbids gave 500 rubles. !!! For each tank a day, 300 liters of diesel fuel left on pieces of paper, and they were dead ... I wanted to cry ... They cut their soldiers with autogenous, and the "jackals" (they are not officers, namely jackals !!!) were loaded into the skeletons in China by train ... I saw all this, so even before Smerdyukov it was!
      I am a patriot, but when you see SUCH one begins to hate the higher authorities with terrible power !!!
      for reference in the military unit 32456 Shilov landfill NSO NDS
      1. KOH
        KOH 6 March 2014 05: 39 New
        0
        In the 90s, everything that was iron, everyone was cut, not only tanks, in general this is a sad page of Russia ...
  12. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 5 March 2014 18: 33 New
    +7
    <<< Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet confirms the connection between snipers on the Maidan and opposition leaders. >>>
    The State Department uses the already proven technology: we need victims killed both among the protesters and among the defending police, so that the shed BLOOD translates the supposedly “spontaneous” protest on the Maidan into a revolution and makes it irreversible! In the same way, he acted in 1991 in the events near the White House in Moscow, when many people who did not participate at all in the events were killed by snipers, who were later called the "third" force! Clearly, what is this "third" force?
  13. kirieeleyson
    kirieeleyson 5 March 2014 18: 35 New
    +1
    Who is Olga, and apparently, she is the number 1 goal for the special services, since she has data on snipers. But in general, everything fell into place.
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 5 March 2014 18: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: kirieeleyson
      Who is Olga

      It seems that the head doctor was on Maydaun. She was offered the post of Minister of Health, but she refused.
      1. Krapovy32
        Krapovy32 6 March 2014 02: 52 New
        0
        The surname of this Olga is a pilgrim. The creature is still the same; there is dirt on it on the network. Correspondence hacked by Anonymous. There she informs that it is impossible to send captured policemen with everyone for treatment to Poland (the Poles offered to treat the wounded at home) otherwise, according to her, they can tell reporters how they were tortured in the basement of the Kiev Regional State Administration. There is even an audio recording of torture online on the tube.
  14. Gracher
    Gracher 5 March 2014 18: 38 New
    +2
    Well, now the Natsiks will begin to prove that the snipers were hired personally by Putin, or the record was falsified personally by Putin, and in general: who is to blame for everything - right, they said. And Natsik-etozh angels descended on the Maidan.
  15. loginovich
    loginovich 5 March 2014 18: 38 New
    +8
    The only person that representatives of civil society spoke positively is Poroshenko.)))))))

    What is civil society?
    Civil society likes a chocolate bunny. What is it interesting for? Probably for sweets.
    For me, the con man is still the one.
    1. made13
      made13 5 March 2014 18: 52 New
      +7
      How can you like a man who called another Orthodox bitch? We even stopped eating sweets from his plants ...
      1. Gronsky
        Gronsky 6 March 2014 00: 53 New
        0
        Quote: made13
        How can you like a man who called another Orthodox bitch?

        Now it’s clear who is behind the coup? Once Hades allows himself to openly make such speeches. I think the suckers of the Nazis, with their animal hatred, were used as a condom and with their hands they made their way to the capture and subjugation of Ukraine. Now they will get rid of them and embark on the genocide of Ukraine.
        In Odessa, he was appointed Governor Nemirovsky, in Dnepropetrovsk Kolomoisky, over Rada Yatsenyuk, sponsor of the Maidan Poroshenko. All true aids.
        The American rabbi, who came to the Maidan with the US Secretary of State, was overflowing with a nightingale that everything is in order, the "power" is legal, the Jews have nothing to fear.
        Israel is silent as numb.
        The picture is very clear.
    2. vlum
      vlum 5 March 2014 19: 46 New
      0
      It will be ridiculous if sooner or later, but still come out of the Maidan Roshen chocolate bunnies with a specific filling.
    3. pvv113
      pvv113 5 March 2014 22: 51 New
      +8
      THIS POROSHENKO, OWNING CONFECTIONERY CONCERN "ROSHEN". HAS BEEN ONE OF MAIDAN'S MAJOR SPONSORS. AND WHAT CIVIL SOCIETY HE LIKED - SAYING DIFFICULT. LIKELY, GEYROPEY
  16. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 5 March 2014 18: 40 New
    +7
    Ashton: I heard they want to investigate. It is interesting. Go on.

    Paet: This is an extremely annoying factor. This discredits the new coalition from the start.

    Ashton: They need to be very careful. People require major changes. But the mechanism needs to function. They (the new coalition) must simultaneously be activists, doctors and politicians

    Oh you! This rat muzzle is "interesting"!
    In general, the experiment is in full swing. The people were in the role of sheep.
    She wants to see "doctors and politicians" in the "lawless people and bandits" on whom they put.
    Here they are puppeteers-instructors.
    1. vlum
      vlum 5 March 2014 19: 52 New
      +1
      Poke her time to refresh vocabulary in documentary shots about doctors from Nazi concentration camps.
  17. bigELDAK
    bigELDAK 5 March 2014 18: 43 New
    -34
    And everything is being done, I can do it in 3-4 days with the help of my friends to shoot such a video in adobe premier. fool
    1. Privat
      Privat 5 March 2014 19: 02 New
      +17
      Eldak - he is also an Eldak in Africa. laughing
      Why didn’t you enter that the video sequence is just a cut of the frames that were broadcast live from the Maidan? And what is the main thing here - is the conversation, the authenticity of which is confirmed?
      With such a level of understanding of what is happening, are you still scribbling about politics - let the peasants laugh.
      1. Staff Sergeant
        Staff Sergeant 5 March 2014 21: 38 New
        +3
        So such eldaki on the Maidan then jump ...
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  18. Al-in
    Al-in 5 March 2014 18: 49 New
    +3
    http://rus.postimees.ee/2718260/mid-jestonii-podtverdil-podlinnost-zapisi-razgov
    ora-pajeta-i-jeshton have confirmation
  19. diff
    diff 5 March 2014 18: 57 New
    +4
    So what? How many such "revolutions" were there, what's the point. Who is “enlightened” in the West? - A couple of thousand Americans have become a little more loyal to us. Despite all the knowledge about such cases, even in Ukraine, such knowledge was quickly forgotten. Now, our brotherly people of Ukrainians are ready to peacefully cut our throats. Some even Russians of nationality believed in the "new independence" so much that they began to hate us Russians.
    If today the media can hammer the whole world, this conversation may change. Although the Yankees know how to jump off the topic, well, they’ll blow up some Shopping Center or an airplane with the Ukrainian government. No government - no problem!
    1. es.d
      es.d 5 March 2014 22: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: diff
      Who in the West "enlightened"

      That is yes. In Syria, the "rebels" PEOPLE are devouring, and so what? To whom it hindered. Express concern ...
  20. loginovich
    loginovich 5 March 2014 19: 09 New
    +3
    Akurat the next day as GDP said that Yanukovych did not give orders to shoot
    Everything secret becomes apparent.
  21. from punk
    from punk 5 March 2014 19: 13 New
    +1
    and what records can we hear in the case of the ultimat of Russia yes
  22. DMB-78
    DMB-78 5 March 2014 19: 18 New
    +1
    no one will ever prove it. it was and will be so. in all "revolutions" there are those who wish to apply this proven experience
  23. rocketman
    rocketman 5 March 2014 19: 19 New
    -20
    Everything is well written here, but only Russia with its actions in the Crimea with the grace of an elephant in a china shop fully justifies these three Maidan clowns. Instead of demanding an investigation, it is possible to lead it itself (as in Syria), Russia entered the Crimea, and now everyone is shouting about occupation, annexation, about anything, but not about the crimes of Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, Klitschka and Co. am
    1. Tretyakov
      Tretyakov 5 March 2014 19: 37 New
      +7
      The best thing about the situation, arguing in his Facebook, said the famous publicist Dmitry Bavyrin:

      - There was a crisis situation in the administration connected with the change of power, the refusal of the Crimean Armed Forces to obey these authorities and statements about separatism. By and large, almost all the separatist wars in the post-Soviet space (Abkhazia, Ossetia, Transnistria) began just like that. But the war in Gagauzia was avoided precisely thanks to the entry of Russian troops. Do you remember the crisis in the same Gagauzia, for example? Comrat accepts the declaration of autonomy and collects its own Armed Forces, Chisinau declares that it [sneeze] and, in general, separatism in its mouth. The troops cannot send, but they send the police there “to establish a constitutional order” and encourages the right-wing movement - the pro-Romanian nationalists, who go there by volunteers on buses. Krovischi escaped because the Russian military came. Everyone sat down and talked calmly. The current situation reminds me the most of all.
      If it went on as it went on, I’m sure that the risk of “right-wing volunteers” appearing in Crimea would be great. They are now extremely brave, heated, and most importantly - armed. Let me remind you that two days before the fall, the urls sacked the arms depots. In the program "Freedom" in black and white, the liquidation of the autonomy of Crimea and its Ukrainization. There have already been so many bloody conflicts with such a beginning that water must be blown. And there is always a situation "today is early, tomorrow will be late."
      Reacting from the zero point after real actions from the conditional “other side” is much more dangerous for the troops, bloody for the population and a large-scale thing, rather than preventing them through blocking and dispersing forces in advance “just in case”. Your scenario in implementation, for example, when interested forces begin to crap and, being warned, impede the advancement of troops, it is very sad. Those. allowing (just assuming) the likelihood of “Russians being offended” and the necessary intervention — this will no longer be blocking military units. This is already with battles to Sevastopol and Simferopol it is necessary to break through.
  24. smith7
    smith7 5 March 2014 19: 19 New
    +4
    90% of the electorate in Europe and the USA can drum our troubles ... And 100% of the citizens do not care how it ends. There may be a telephone conversation and an argument in favor of the illegitimacy of the new Ukrainian government, but public opinion on this cannot be fundamentally changed. We must act ... Here Yarosh acts - he sent propaganda-provocative-sabotage detachments to the south-east of Ukraine with the task of provoking under the guise of people with pro-Russian views a distrust of the idea of ​​unification with Russia and discrediting pro-Russian activist managers. The Russian-speaking population is clearly losing to the Nazis in the propaganda struggle. Alas, Russia also provides passive support in this direction.
  25. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 5 March 2014 19: 22 New
    +5
    Evo how! ... The abscess of fascism, covered with white powder of the struggle for democratic values, is beginning to slowly run up and expire in very interesting details what .
    You see, soon such abscesses of truth about the Maidan will become more voluminous. That's only Russia needs to skillfully use these gifts in order to show the whole world the true face of both the gay people and the "exceptional" on the other side of the Atlantic good . Then we'll see how the mud will bathe in the mud laughing
    1. TT1968
      TT1968 5 March 2014 21: 58 New
      +3
      "Only Russia needs to skillfully use such gifts in order to show the whole world the true face of both the gay people and the" exceptional "on the other side of the Atlantic .."
      The classics of Marxism-Leninism wrote: "For money, Capital will sell us the rope on which we hang it" .. or something like that. There are PR agencies that will work for whom, if only they paid on time! Here, hire one and toss up that demerzo, which is probably in store with the relevant services! Let gentlemen "dermocrats" get washed away !!!
      Moreover, there will be no fakes !!!
  26. Grbear
    Grbear 5 March 2014 19: 28 New
    -3
    "With the modern development of the printing industry - there in the West, forging a Soviet passport ..." (Ilf and Petrov) no

    Gentlemen, comrades, look for the ears or "See the root" (Kozma Prutkov) winked .
  27. morpogr
    morpogr 5 March 2014 19: 33 New
    +5
    The further the ears of those who shouted grow, I have nothing to do with it, the people and the revolution. But in general it’s interesting how people were bred who are on the Maidan, first shout out with the power, let us take new ones. Now you’ve rested from the same old thieves, then we want please manage yourself, but first, we will put the oligarchs to you who have robbed you, we just owe them money for the revolution, and there is nothing to give them to rob you for the benefit of ourselves and the country. And now even more fun, we agree to enter anywhere on your terms, we will close everything, we will destroy everything and we will pay you more money in the form of interest for your loans, and we will sell our children to slavery because they will have to pay for it.
    1. vlum
      vlum 5 March 2014 20: 01 New
      +2
      not will pay, will pay

      not their children, children of them

      And just remember how much dough the gas princess has already cut, the speaker-president, and all the other pillar nobles, especially those who are given to the governorate-servility regions.
  28. DMB-78
    DMB-78 5 March 2014 19: 33 New
    +1
    Well, why have our media always since 2008 lost the information war ??? crying there are no professionals left ?? Can the Ministry of Anti-Propaganda Introduce? wink
    1. Luga
      Luga 5 March 2014 22: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: DMB-78
      Well, why do our media always lose information war since 2008? crying

      Because before 2008, they didn’t fight at all. But after August 2008 at least a little, but it turned out. I then noted for the first time that, albeit with a delay, they managed to repel mattresses in the information field. Before that, they were generally whipping boys. Now we are fighting much more successfully, although we still have different weight categories, for now. sad
      But experience comes, authority appears. In short, I am optimistic wink
  29. mpa945
    mpa945 5 March 2014 19: 34 New
    0
    nirazu had no doubt
  30. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 5 March 2014 19: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: x.andvlad
    Ashton: They need to be very careful. People require major changes. But the mechanism needs to function. They (the new coalition) must simultaneously be activists, doctors and politicians


    I especially liked that "They (the new coalition) need to be activists at the same time, doctors and politicians "Doctors - how is it? To carry out euthanasia lighted up?

    Quote: bigELDAK
    And everything is being done, I can do it in 3-4 days with the help of my friends to shoot such a video in adobe premier.


    Already three - four days on such a video, and even with the help of friends? Well you, my friend, a specialist laughing I bow down.
  31. scientist
    scientist 5 March 2014 19: 38 New
    +6
    I am sure this is the first swallow. So to speak, a cold shower for those who want to scare Russia with sanctions. Putin and his specialists know the matter tightly. If these snipers have not yet been buried, then most likely some of them are already sitting in the Crimean basements of the Security Council. Remember how after inspection of cars on the Crimean Isthmus sniper and automatic weapons from which they recently shot were seized. So soon we will find out more about intermediaries and sponsors. Although, in principle, everything is clear, but I would like to see the facts that will finally be considered by the Hague Tribunal. Such crimes cannot be left unpunished, otherwise they will be repeated.
    1. Bosk
      Bosk 6 March 2014 00: 02 New
      +1
      In theory, they should be "buried", which most likely happened.
  32. Klim
    Klim 5 March 2014 19: 52 New
    +2
    And how after this not to send troops?
  33. AV 587
    AV 587 5 March 2014 19: 53 New
    +2
    The Edward Snowden affair lives on!
    Only, I think, in Ukraine they don’t know about it, and they don’t know.
  34. Zaslavsky-S
    Zaslavsky-S 5 March 2014 19: 55 New
    +2
    And this is the face of Europe! Old and ugly!
    1. sarmat-4791
      sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 20: 18 New
      +1
      Yes, they little by little money there, flipping each other in the ass. Where does humanity come from, what is in the head, what is in the soul, what is in the body?
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  35. darksoul
    darksoul 5 March 2014 19: 56 New
    +10
    before that I thought that Ksyusha Sobchak was an anti-ideal, but Katherine Ashton appeared on the horizon and hit on a tumble, then at least a bottle of vodka will come to frighten the fright away laughing In general, with the upcoming March 8th this aunt, I would like to wish her that we no longer see her especially in Ukraine
  36. Konstantm
    Konstantm 5 March 2014 19: 59 New
    +2
    The weak are beaten, as it turns out, the strong - only to death.
    Words of the Ventalah
  37. Ivan.
    Ivan. 5 March 2014 20: 07 New
    +2
    I clicked on the link to translate this bazaar and found this comment. Who can say about this? And then it bothers me that the police went to action, decided who they are and the time of anarchy ends and then the people no longer rock the boat. Or is it a lie?
    PEOPLE'S MILITARY DONBASS (Pavel Gubarev)
    EVERYONE! EVERYONE! ALL !!!

    Only
    what is now under the treacherous pretext of an allegedly bomb in a building
    The regional state administration, the police of Donetsk forcefully displace
    our people from the premises. At the same time, on all entrance routes to the building
    welders install forged grids. It was immediately removed from the building
    Russian tricolor. Obviously, Kiev’s illegitimate government
    set a task to disrupt the press conference of the people's governor Pavel
    Gubarev, to be held in an hour in the conference hall
    administration. In this regard, we urge everyone to approach the building
    regional administration to protect the interests of the people of Donbass and
    prevent another Bandera illegal change of power in the region! AT
    16:00 at a rally in front of the regional administration Pavel Gubarev and his supporters
    will demand from the authorities the fulfillment of the popular will!

    MAXIMUM REPOST !!

    http://www.russiapost.su/archives/19365
    1. vlum
      vlum 5 March 2014 20: 15 New
      +4
      This is not a lie - Russia 24 TV broadcasts in pieces from someone’s mobile. And the report was with a pro camera.
      Visually, the police at the entrance to the building are many, with shields, but without batons and, despite their rather large numbers, have already broken through.
      According to reports from Donetsk, sometime after 16:00 p.m. local time, at least 2000 people gathered and “broke through the police cordon” in the square.
    2. gfs84
      gfs84 5 March 2014 20: 23 New
      +4
      It did not work for the Maydanut Donetsk Donetsk!
      People did not give them the victory - they made a new one)

      Participants in a pro-Russian demonstration in Donetsk stormed the building of the regional state administration (RSA). The participants broke through the cordons of the fighters of the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, after which they entered through the broken entrance doors to the office building. The soldiers of the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine retreated from the building, and the flag of Russia was hung from the office of the head of the regional state administration on the 11th floor, Interfax reports.
      1. sarmat-4791
        sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 21: 05 New
        +3
        Strong Ukrainian power !!! Again unknown "Russian tourists". After them, "polite people" will probably appear?
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  38. sarmat-4791
    sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 20: 09 New
    +6
    But Baroness fuck Ashton in the course about snipers, was not even surprised, she left the answer when the Estonian told her about it (They need to be very careful.) And Olga is most likely Olga Bogomolets
    1. sarmat-4791
      sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 20: 51 New
      +2
      And the Estonian (pay attention!) Shares the Maidan and civil society !?
      1. sarmat-4791
        sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 23: 08 New
        0
        The talker was on February 26th. Here it is, Mikhalych!
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  39. Staff Sergeant
    Staff Sergeant 5 March 2014 20: 30 New
    +5
    Quote: cdrt
    Oh well.
    even if this is our provocation, now the other side will have to launder :-)

    Just do not pour here
    about "our" provocation. The only, I emphasize the ONLY interested party, is Klikoyajsebok, their fellows and sponsors of all this coven.
  40. kirqiz ssr
    kirqiz ssr 5 March 2014 20: 32 New
    +7
    in Kyrgyzstan, we had two revolution, both snipers worked so far they don’t know where these snipers came from and where they disappeared.
    1. DMB-78
      DMB-78 5 March 2014 20: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Kirqiz SSR
      where did these snipers come from and where did they disappear.

      how from where and where? from the American embassy.
      1. sarmat-4791
        sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 20: 48 New
        +4
        Well, yes, as in a joke: - why in the USA there are no coups? - because there is no US embassy.
        1. DMB-78
          DMB-78 5 March 2014 21: 42 New
          +4
          Quote: sarmat-4791
          Well, yes, as in a joke: - why in the USA there are no coups? - because there is no US embassy.

          this is not a joke) so gugo chavez said)
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  41. kelevra
    kelevra 5 March 2014 20: 42 New
    +4
    And who sponsored the leaders of the Maidan and who supplied them with Blaser rifles ?! Such rifles can only be bought from England by special order. Double Europe, scumbag!
  42. Sobol
    Sobol 5 March 2014 20: 49 New
    +1
    Just on shopping mall Russia reported that 3 hundred mercenaries from ex black waters arrived in Kiev.
    1. sarmat-4791
      sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 20: 53 New
      +2
      And yesterday or today they were already somewhere lit up on the square in some city (I didn’t look honestly - whether it was Odessa, or Dnepropetrovsk)
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  43. dobrik10
    dobrik10 5 March 2014 21: 23 New
    +2
    For me, this is a direct warning to the EU and mattresses that all their actions are monitored and recorded.
    Let the panic appear in them then even more jambs will fall in them.
  44. rpek32
    rpek32 5 March 2014 21: 44 New
    0
    Snipers in Kiev were hired by the leaders of the Maidan.
    watched the video. I did not notice direct confirmation of these words. what's the catch?
    1. Luga
      Luga 5 March 2014 23: 28 New
      +4
      Evidence theory in criminal proceedings divides evidence into direct and indirect (evidence). Direct evidence is, roughly speaking, the testimony of eyewitnesses or the confessions of the accused. The rest, which do not directly indicate guilt, are evidence. For a long time it was believed that it was impossible to establish guilt without direct evidence, “confession is the queen of evidence”, therefore confessions were ruthlessly beaten out, no one exchanged evidence. Now they condemn on the basis of evidence only, although their interpretation requires some mental effort.

      We will analyze the data we have (we will proceed from the fact that everything said in an intercepted conversation was said sincerely). So,
      1. A certain Olga, whom Ashton knows, reported that she, as a doctor, analyzed the nature of the bullet wounds on the Maidan and came to the conclusion that the wounds of both the police and the opposition have the same handwriting.
      2. The same Olga expresses an opinion about the involvement of the “coalition”, and not Yanukovych.
      3. The Coalition is not investigating the shooting.
      4. The current situation worries both interlocutors.
      As you can see, everything is indirect. For the court, of course, is not enough. But some assumptions can be made. If Olga is Olga Bogomolets, then we are dealing with a very informed source, who undoubtedly has information not only about the nature of the injuries, but also about the circumstances of their receipt. She asked her doctors, making dressings, about the circumstances of the injuries of the victims themselves. But the doctor is usually told the truth. At the same time, she was in the thick of things and knew exactly where and when this or that person with a specific wound was delivered. Perhaps I saw or heard something else, but what I called is with a guarantee. So she has much more information than Paet knows about. And it’s precisely her that “there is a growing understanding that it was not Yanukovych who was behind these snipers, but someone from the new coalition,” this says a lot.

      Further. Investigation process. A deep and comprehensive investigation is beneficial only to those who are not involved in the crime. If Yanukovych shot, the “coalition” had already published the results, or at least announced the start of an investigation. But "the new coalition does not want to investigate the exact circumstances of what happened." So they are not so interested that they are not even trying to play this card on the political table.

      And the last one. The fact that both interlocutors are concerned about the current situation, and both of them are on the side of the Maydan people, suggests that from the height of their awareness they REALLY fear the exposure of the "coalition" and its loss of political authority.

      Actually, there is also evidence indicating guilty of shooting precisely the Maidan, but in the conversation under discussion they did not concern them. In my opinion, what they said is already enough to draw definite conclusions.
  45. DMB-78
    DMB-78 5 March 2014 21: 45 New
    0
    Quote: dobrik10
    For me, this is a direct warning to the EU and mattresses that all their actions are monitored and recorded.

    Yes, they do not care about all this. they didn’t get such slaps. wiped off and continued to toggle on. Kuwait and Iraq are two prime examples
  46. pvv113
    pvv113 5 March 2014 22: 56 New
    +7
    Quote: cdrt
    Oh well.
    even if this is our provocation, now the other side will have to launder :-)
    THIS PROVOCATION WAS PREPARED BY TWO NAPOLEONS, THREE JULIUS CAESAR, CARL 12, THREE ALEXANDER THE MACEDONIAN AND ANOTHER SEPARATE POLITICAL FIGURES FROM THE CHAMBER NUMBER 6 bully bully bully
  47. Chemicalin23
    Chemicalin23 5 March 2014 23: 18 New
    +1
    And why are you minus it? You think what he says! There were few provocations when we were accused of non-existent sins? So let them think now, let them understand that the information war has come to their house today!
    Quote: cdrt
    Oh well.
    even if this is our provocation, now the other side will have to launder :-)
  48. Zomanus
    Zomanus 5 March 2014 23: 39 New
    +1
    Now the main thing is to hold on. These bastards will now make more and more mistakes. And the main thing for us is to broadcast these errors of them as widely as possible. Now we have two dates: March 30 and May 25. I think that by May we will begin to support some European politicians.
  49. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 5 March 2014 23: 43 New
    +1
    Good evening everyone! Here are the bastards who wanted to make the extreme power and substitute the boys from the golden eagle, there’s no gallows crying for them but a guillotine.
  50. konvalval
    konvalval 6 March 2014 00: 01 New
    +1
    It is written in black and white that they all know everything. So why do we listen to their official bluff. Only the mouth opened, and he (her) write in the mouth.