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Profpatrioty - for the motherland. For yourself or for yourself?

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Today, almost no one doubts that Ukraine such as it was before the February 22 coup, 2014, will be gone. And what will it be? This question aroused the unstable minds of the expert community and beckoned for profit - they can pay for estimates and forecasts. And if these forecasts are reflected as an integral “component” of individual politicians (they say, nothing will happen without them, everything will be ashes), then the remuneration will increase exponentially: the more necessary the “character” is depicted, the more generous it is. Pays, of course. This is the basis of image-making.


So they built all the "bright images" of Ukrainian politics over the past 20 over the years. Well, as well as from whom they built, so they built the country. If initially the source material with a delicate and defective at the genetic level, then you can fashion a beautiful facade with an image of it. But inside he was as rotten as ever. And rot always comes out later, flooding the country with a stench. And the blood ...

But if we talk about blood, then this is so, by the way, it was necessary and the recent situation inspired. However, in all other respects, the scheme and its essence remain, alas, unchanged. The pillars of the state, which should be, at least, at least granite, mold out, sorry, products of such recycling that it is difficult to analyze them without a gas mask. But, alas, it is necessary ...

Well, if only because the above changes are coming up in the country. We will talk about them. The situation that is now emerging in the south-east of Ukraine is simply called: creeping autonomization or de-facto federalization of Ukraine. And in the Crimea, which in unitary Ukraine already possessed the status of autonomy, this autonomy is being filled with real content. And political, and economic, and, as it happened, the military (in fact, the armed forces of the autonomy are created). Some of this status of autonomy provided for de jure, something is not, and therefore the “necessary” is now also getting de facto. But what happened in the Crimea clearly means: he will never return to the composition of Ukraine in its previous form.
Here, for example, is a schematic, but rather complete analysis of the Crimean referendum on its new status, scheduled for March 30 of this year. Independent lawyers thought about the possible consequences. And that's what they did. Do you know how the question of the coming all-Crimean referendum sounds? It sounds like this: “The Autonomous Republic of Crimea has state independence and is a part of Ukraine on the basis of contracts and agreements?”. Answers - for or against. And possible options for what could be.

1. If you are in charge of “for”, this implies: The Autonomous Republic of Crimea has state independence and is part of Ukraine on the basis of treaties and agreements (it’s necessary to write the legislative basis for the membership of a separate state within Ukraine. As you write, it will be, and Ukraine should have an appropriate legal framework for such an option, but it is not).

2. If you answer “against”, this implies: The Autonomous Republic of Crimea does not have state independence and is not part of Ukraine on the basis of treaties and agreements
(that is, it is part of some other state. I wonder what?).

Not enough options:

1. The Autonomous Republic of Crimea does not have state independence and is part of Ukraine on the basis of contracts and agreements (that is, leave everything as it is).

2. The Autonomous Republic of Crimea has state independence and is not part of Ukraine on the basis of treaties and agreements (that is, complete independence).

And in Crimea, of the indicated options for changing one’s status and fate, something will work out. Except, of course, the first of the missing options - leave everything as it is. The Crimea has already “gorged on” life in Ukraine, it has already been said there: “Crimea is either Ukrainian or deserted”. And now, it seems, they are ready to proceed with either Ukrainization or desertification. Crimeans do not agree with this. And behind them is all the power of today's Putin Russia. Yes, at his press conference, entirely devoted to Ukraine, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that he was not considering the issue of Crimea joining Russia. But in the trouble of his people will not leave. Well, what could he say if the people of Crimea have not asked him about it yet? This is the first.
Secondly, today many are sure: if Ukraine wants to preserve its territorial integrity at least formally, then this process of federalization should be provided for in the new Constitution, which they plan to write. And in general, in a new political discourse, federalization should not be viewed as separatism, but as a potential, if you will, potential new form of government based on decentralization of political and administrative power and the financial and budgetary system. That is, the simplest and most obvious, as they say, on the surface - the election of local leaders should be supported by fiscal federalism - the redistribution of tax flows in favor of the regions. In what form the administrative-political reorganization of Ukraine will occur (cultural autonomy, federation or confederation) will depend on the level of trust in the authors of the Constitution and the degree of participation of regional representatives in the constitutional process as not extras, but full-fledged co-authors.

Third, federalization (even in the form of cultural autonomy) in Ukraine has many enemies, who have one common name - “professional patriots”. Those who want for the love of the Motherland to receive or salary, or dividends from the use of one large national "trough". First of all, these are politicians, government officials and their various servants in the person of the Ukrainian-speaking national-patriotic humanitarian intelligentsia or the current Maidan fighters who are infected with nationalism, united either in “people's self-defense” or in the newly-minted “Right Sector”, which has already announced that "Takes responsibility for the continuation of the Ukrainian revolution."

And their motives are clear and simple to primitivism. Like all that is born of vanity and self-interest. Politicians and bureaucrats are prestigious to be the leaders of a large state and represent it in the international arena, flaunting regalia and status. It is important for Ukrainian-speaking humanitarian intelligentsia to be idols of their own - Ukrainian-centric - world and thus oust Russian-speaking competitors from it, who are often more talented and have a larger area of ​​distribution (thanks to the language) not only in Ukraine, but also in Russia and in the whole Russian-speaking world. These are not taken by talent, but by the throat and prohibitive-repressive violence. But the militants, allegedly speaking for the "Ukrainian Ukraine", it is advantageous to receive money and status for the further Ukrainization of the "unconscious" south-east of the country and the Crimea. Having taken the clubs and the Molotov cocktails, they are unlikely to return to any other productive work voluntarily. But the post-Maid Ukraine does not have the strength to force them to do this. So they offer themselves to the authorities as the “staplers” of the country. And they are unlikely to regret anyone in their path. It is from these regions that the rescue regions are being sought in federalization, offering today the holding of local and state-wide referendums on the form of government. In favor of federalization, naturally.
And there is another powerful type of fans of unitary Ukraine - the so-called oligarchs. The oligarchs have similar economic interests in all regions without exception. It is profitable for them to “milk” the whole country for their own moshny, and not for individual regions where they will also have to pay taxes. This benefit and dictates their political "love to food nenky". And the “self-defense of the Maidan”, “Right Sector”, and “Freedom” are in fact not only the allies of the oligarchs, but also their tools and mechanisms for the preservation of unitary Ukraine.

I once wrote that if we agree with the fact that not only the Crimea, but the whole country is no longer there, then hypothetically there are only three ways for Ukraine’s development. First: the mentioned federalization, based on varying degrees of decentralization of power. The second: the opposition of the regions with the center and among themselves. Up to civil war and the collapse of the country into separate enclaves with their subordination to other neighboring states or becoming independent recognized states in varying degrees. Third: the internal occupation is either by zapadentsy skidnyakov, or vice versa - by skhidnyakami zapadentsev. And Ukraine’s neighbors both in the west and in the northeast will play a very important role in this.

And today it is already clear: the first option is beneficial to Russia. The third is for the West. That is why all the “staplers” and opponents of federalization are only tools from geopolitical customers in the West (especially in the US among European “hawks”), who need not just a single “big” Ukraine, but “sharpened” against Russia. They are well aware that the federal lands of the south-east of Ukraine will hardly ever be able to grind against Russia. But in unitary Ukraine it is possible to reformat consciousness by force.

And that's surprising. Today, many offer all sorts of options for saving the country. And among them are extremely tricky - from the "staplers", many of whom stood behind the Maidan ordered from outside and the coup d'état that followed. For example, just recently, such a cunning plan was presented by experts of the Institute of Strategic Studies (CII) “New Ukraine”, created for modest savings by Sergey Levochkin, former head of the Presidential Administration, who was flooded as one of the initiators of the Maidan. And these experts, among other humanitarian and distracting verbal crap, propose "a temporary moratorium on holding local referendums until extraordinary presidential and parliamentary elections and the elaboration of the relevant legislative framework." That is, they want to curb the referendum path of federalization. And then how it will turn out: either the regions will achieve their goal, or the “Right Sector” and other neo-Nazis will occupy them and beat them out of their heads with cudgels ...

But as they say, the process has begun. And internal feuds have already led to a deplorable result: Ukraine’s full subjectivity in the international arena must be forgotten. Maybe forever. Participants in the current coup d'état have to be congratulated on “success”: for which they fought, Ukraine seems to have fallen for that ...
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  1. biglow
    biglow 6 March 2014 17: 57
    +18
    it’s time for the staplers to start building the Galicia-Volyn principality, or else this may not remain ...
    1. Tumbleweed
      Tumbleweed 6 March 2014 22: 12
      +10
      Crimea was Russian, now it will legally become Russian, and everything else will be a riffraff ... And let's think about the fact that the Russian Sevastopol and the under-Ukraine fleet are located on the rivers (our regions) wassat
      And we pump less money into the non-state and life is getting better (not to associate with a joke, here the truth of life) drinks Ukrainians on the censor after the referendum announcement all teeth grin wassat
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 6 March 2014 22: 23
        +2
        And it seems to me that Crimea will prefer autonomy. Neither Russia nor Ukraine. And will Russia take Crimea? After all, you can have a completely subordinate republic, such as Abkhazia and Ossetia, without including Crimea in your structure. Accession to Russia can be interpreted as annexation and the states will simply have to do something in order not to lose face. I believe that at the highest level there are already agreements on the fate of Crimea, because Putin clearly indicated his "red line", that is, the fact that Crimea lies in the zone of Russia's strategic interests.
        1. Tumbleweed
          Tumbleweed 6 March 2014 22: 27
          +2
          Quote: Uncle
          And it seems to me that Crimea will prefer autonomy. Neither with Russia nor with Ukraine. And will Russia take Crimea? After all, you can have a completely subordinate republic, such as Abkhazia and Ossetia, not including Crimea in its composition.

          It's like a hand used to be, then changed to a prosthesis, and then a hand or a prosthesis disputes ... Sorry transferred to a household level
        2. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
          Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 6 March 2014 22: 33
          +4
          It is unlikely that they will vote for autonomy. It is better to be under a strong and reliable roof than in a separate, albeit in its own hut. Given that no one recognizes Crimea as an independent state, someone will always have views of it. By the way, both Abkhazia and Ossetia wanted it under such a roof, but then it was somewhat untimely. And if there is a precedent?
        3. Reddragon
          Reddragon 6 March 2014 22: 46
          +2
          Quote: Uncle
          And it seems to me that Crimea will prefer autonomy.

          Too tidbit piece to be independent.
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 6 March 2014 22: 53
            0
            Quote: RedDragoN
            Too tidbit to be independent.

            Yes, even if it’s called, it’ll be a protectorate of Russia. In addition, Crimea can neither be autonomous, nor belong to Ukraine, only Russia or Turkey. So the Turks will also say their very weighty word.
            1. upasika1918
              upasika1918 7 March 2014 05: 57
              0
              Turks? A weighty word? What planet have you flown from?
        4. upasika1918
          upasika1918 7 March 2014 05: 54
          0
          It seems - it is necessary to be baptized. States can go there .... How will they interpret? By Violet. Arrangement? Which one? With whom? Where is it recorded? Fight for the Crimea? Of these, diarrhea is already pouring.
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      1. Black
        Black 6 March 2014 23: 13
        +1
        Quote: sasin2008
        I'm just in shock !!!!!!


        it is noticeable .... look, do not tear yourself, awesome.
    3. AVV
      AVV 7 March 2014 00: 42
      +1
      Quote: biglow
      it’s time for the staplers to start building the Galicia-Volyn principality, or else this may not remain ...

      And to hell with them !!! Nobody will be upset !!!
    4. Ross
      Ross 7 March 2014 02: 42
      0
      Lord putschists today introduced their commissars into the military units of Ukraine. Despite the military riot. Everything is like Trotsky’s in 1918. Control over the military, so as not to run away. They are pulling together the units to the Crimea and are preparing for a forceful decision.
  2. psychologist
    psychologist 6 March 2014 22: 15
    +16
    Well, if after that Russia backs down, then I don’t know !! such a case is never foreseen ever !! now they will understand how they loused and they won’t give us such a chance! wait for March 16th !! I feel the whole mess is yet to come !! Only 10 days left until this historic moment !!! now mother will begin to lean on Russia from all sides! Nothing - and not mastered it !!
  3. cerko
    cerko 6 March 2014 22: 15
    +4
    the situation changes almost every hour, alas, the article is not relevant
  4. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 6 March 2014 22: 20
    +5
    Well, it’s you colleague who bent, what Galicia-Volyn? Volyn, I think so! in a year or so the other will come to his senses (if not earlier), there they are "squinting" at her from the west (only they are not being served).
  5. konvalval
    konvalval 6 March 2014 22: 25
    +2
    Yes, the content of the article is out of date.
  6. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 6 March 2014 22: 26
    +2
    The West is clapping its hands to the nedobit-fascists from "their apartment", but in this "apartment", I think, they will not tolerate it. WHILE there, Hitler's fascism is condemned, while abundantly pouring "fertilizers" on it in Ukraine.
  7. Mercenary
    Mercenary 6 March 2014 22: 29
    +1
    Information is already out of date in the media there are already specific questions and not ambiguous answers yes or no. Yes, the referendum was postponed to March 16.
  8. sinukvl
    sinukvl 6 March 2014 22: 29
    +4
    We are simply obligated to help Crimea gain independence from Ukraine. And how Crimea will exist in the form of an independent state of friendly Russia (following the example of Abkhazia) or will become part of Russia is at the discretion of politicians. The only thing is that if we decide to include Crimea in Russia, then we must simultaneously include Abkhazia and South Ossetia in Russia. And Sshashka and Geropa mourn once and shut up, they will bark anyway!
    1. Mih
      Mih 6 March 2014 23: 02
      0
      You know, I saw banners on the flagpoles of the armored personnel carrier (95), with the words: "To Moscow". It was fun to watch, but impressive. And how did it end?
      Yes, everything ended with what we have. Empty concussion. The European Parliament will support you. Europe is so round - you can’t bite.
  9. horoh
    horoh 6 March 2014 22: 30
    +2
    But still it’s interesting, our authorities will not join the Crimea to the Russian Federation, or not ???? But this is a test of strength !!!
  10. AleksPol
    AleksPol 6 March 2014 22: 35
    +6
    It’s for sure that we have been given a unique chance to resolve the situation. 91 However, what the price will be is still unclear. I hope that GDP has a trump card in its hands. If GDP resolves the situation, then it has a chance to become a collector of power. We wish him good luck in this good deed.
  11. Siberian19
    Siberian19 6 March 2014 22: 43
    +2
    People’s elected governor of the Donetsk region (Pavel Gubarev) was captured by unknown people and, according to the latest information, taken to Kiev! oligarchs declared war on the people! they can kill a guy, but he, our Russian from Russia, was waiting for help, and how did we help him?
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  13. Mih
    Mih 6 March 2014 22: 49
    0
    This strength test. And so not so and so bad. In short, a solid headache. And all the fucking Khrushch threw. The Politburo concluded that it wasn’t legal, but suffocated under the reformer of corn (corn is a large ear of crap that grows in Ukraine and the United States). Democratic centralism - I still poorly understand this hu.
  14. targitai
    targitai 6 March 2014 23: 06
    0
    Sevastopol also conducts 16 referendups on joining the Russian Federation.
  15. Name
    Name 6 March 2014 23: 06
    +5
    The fifth option is preferred: The Autonomous Republic of Crimea is a subject of the Russian Federationthat will happen soon. And together with Crimea and:
    1. infinite silence ...
      infinite silence ... 6 March 2014 23: 51
      +1
      Your words to God in the ears ...
      I think that after March 16 the main movement, distribution and alignment of forces will begin.
      No matter how they puffed up in Kiev ... and it will be difficult for them to recognize the will of the people as illegitimate ... This is not a handful of mayduns doused with some kind of drug, this is the decision of PEOPLE.
      And then Donbass will be. I hope so.
  16. techmesh
    techmesh 6 March 2014 23: 11
    +1
    Our Crimea is the point. Let’s hand over the Russians - hand over the Russia. Ancestors and descendants will not forgive us.
    1. rpek32
      rpek32 7 March 2014 01: 44
      0
      without the consent of the Crimean, it’s not yours but theirs. so I advise uzbahogsy and not rattle cheers with exclamations
  17. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 6 March 2014 23: 31
    +3

    While some professional "patriots" of "Nezalezhnaya" are screaming about the invasion of the "damned moska.l.ey"

    Meanwhile, Sashko Bily continues to burn with napalm ...

    It’s true that they noticed - Sashko Bilom needs the FSK guys to guard. His contribution to the cause of the struggle for democracy is simply invaluable.
    1. infinite silence ...
      infinite silence ... 7 March 2014 00: 03
      0
      At the very end (2.12) Bely has a very eloquent gesture ... with a cry: -Right sector!
    2. -SHADOW-
      -SHADOW- 10 March 2014 14: 46
      0
      not an adequate assessment of the situation ... young lady look wider and take into account the disadvantages that this coup has entailed and will entail further ...
  18. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 6 March 2014 23: 35
    +2
    How fast the news is getting old. Everything has already changed and the article is not relevant.
    Crimea enters Russia, the referendum of March 16, and has two distinct questions.
  19. Old warrant officer
    Old warrant officer 6 March 2014 23: 46
    0
    Belated article, questions are already different
  20. SergeyS
    SergeyS 6 March 2014 23: 56
    -1
    Oh well ...
    Funny)))
    In the event of joining the Russian Federation, Russia will have to spend a lot of money on the life support of Crimea
    The peninsula is not able to independently maintain its own livelihoods; it receives most of the resources from the mainland. In the event of a disconnection, Ukraine is unlikely to cut off gas, water, electricity or telecommunications in the Crimea, but it is likely to raise tariffs.

    The peninsula is surrounded by the sea, but there have always been problems with fresh water. About 80% of Crimea’s needs in this regard are provided by the North Crimean Canal. It disperses along the peninsula like a cobweb, supplying cities and villages with water.

    About 80% of the needs of Crimea are provided by Zaporizhzhya and Kakhovka power plants.

    The existence of autonomy separately from all from an economic point of view is impossible.

    Gas and electric pipelines are much more difficult to build, especially considering the five-kilometer section of the Kerch Strait, between the territory of Russia and the Crimea. The cost of the bridge, which Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev promised to build on this site, is estimated at $ 3 billion.

    Based on this figure, it can be assumed that the implementation of life support systems will cost tens of billions of dollars.

    And anyway, who will give you the Crimea?
    1. rOpe
      rOpe 7 March 2014 00: 16
      +2
      You don’t fumble about geopolitics, a holy place is never empty. There will be no us, there will be NATO. With tactical missiles. The flight time to Moscow is minimal. Nobody will let you be independent .... Or we or the "democratizers" ... Give Ukraine away to Russia like death. While everything was quiet, it suited us. And if you cannot keep the statehood, blame only yourself. And the price of the Motherland is not measured by money, it is priceless, people live and die for it. In general, count the money in your wallet ..
      1. SergeyS
        SergeyS 7 March 2014 01: 12
        0
        Kiev, March 05 (New Region, Tatyana Alexandrova) - The Verkhovna Rada has registered a draft law on joining the North Atlantic Alliance with the goal of “ensuring and guaranteeing the national security of Ukraine”.

        The authors of the document - Batkivshchyna people's deputies Valentin Korolyuk, Alexander Chernovolenko and former foreign minister Boris Tarasyuk - argued in the explanatory note that the return to the issue of joining NATO argued that since 2010, the country's non-aligned status “has reduced its defense and national security Of Ukraine. ”
        “Given the threats to national security and the defense of Ukraine, there is a practical need to amend some laws of Ukraine regarding the determination of the course of Euro-Atlantic integration and Ukraine’s accession to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO),” the document says.
        Thus, the adoption of a document in parliament at the legislative level will consolidate Euro-Atlantic integration and NATO membership "as a strategy of Ukraine’s foreign policy."

        And you achieved this when entering the Crimea ???????
        We do not need NATO ....
        Only Russia passed what no politician could do ....
        She united the Ukrainian people

        And the question about one should have not been considered for 10-20 years
        and so what?
        Want rockets in Chernihiv, Kharkov region ????
        Then you and Crimea will not need ....
        Sorry ....
        1. meikin
          meikin 7 March 2014 02: 57
          0
          Quote: SergeyS

          And you achieved this when entering the Crimea ???????
          We do not need NATO ....
          Only Russia passed what no politician could do ....
          She united the Ukrainian people

          And the question about one should have not been considered for 10-20 years
          and so what?
          Want rockets in Chernihiv, Kharkov region ????
          Then you and Crimea will not need ....
          Sorry ....


          Why are you sorry? Bandera with maydaunami in Ukraine without our knowledge (but rather with the knowledge and money of the arrogant sexes ...) muddied this whole mess. Ukraine, except as a springboard against Russia, didn’t give up to anyone. To feed and groom this 45-millionth one with ... oh without resources, constantly dissatisfied with something and not afraid of poverty from poverty ... will they bring happiness to them !? Therefore, the future Khokhlostan will have to pay only with its cannon fodder and territory under NATO bases. The people are silent and ... woe to the vanquished! Objects on the territory of Khokhlostan (as in Przekia and Chukhland ...) will be added to the targets for our tactical poison missiles. Five more, five less - the difference is not great.
          It’s sad, of course, all this, but we have long understood that we have no brothers in the world, no co-religionists, no "half-brothers" (sooner or later all of us surrender for havchik), but there is only our army, navy and nuclear shield ... Now we rely on them!
    2. meikin
      meikin 7 March 2014 00: 28
      0
      Quote: SergeyS
      Oh well ...
      Funny)))
      In the event of joining the Russian Federation, Russia will have to spend a lot of money on the life support of Crimea
      Gas and electric pipelines are much more difficult to build, especially considering the five-kilometer section of the Kerch Strait, between the territory of Russia and the Crimea. The cost of the bridge, which Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev promised to build on this site, is estimated at $ 3 billion.
      And anyway, who will give you the Crimea?



      And who will not give up? request
      Get back the Black Sea unsinkable aircraft carrier Crimea for such a small (if not funny ...) money, but it's just some kind of gift! Can you imagine how much money will need to be spent to prepare the relocation of the Black Sea Fleet to Novorossiysk, to raise the entire infrastructure there, both military and civilian ?! Spending on the Sochi Olympics will seem like a very modest and financially shy event. So this money is not superfluous for Russia. We’ll better raise the military-industrial complex on them. It turns out that the return of Crimea to Russia is sooo profitable from an economic point of view !!! And you say a $ 3bn bridge ... fool
      1. SergeyS
        SergeyS 7 March 2014 01: 14
        0
        The “Crimea problem” seems to have only one solution. Crimea can and should be returned to Russia only together with Ukraine. All the other few paths are harmful and senseless demagogy, which will end with the civil war of the fraternal peoples. Dot.
  21. dobrik10
    dobrik10 6 March 2014 23: 59
    +1
    All of course, of course, at our request, I am for accepting the entire south-east of Ukraine to the borders of Russia, and this is practically not so difficult despite the fact that our parliament worked on the president’s appeal about possible military intervention.
    The necessary bill will not be accepted, in principle, and they don't give a shit about "not accepting this by third parties" they will also want to work with us in new borders, the factor of the economy and the social sphere is more embarrassing. It's just not enough to fill up the loot ...
  22. both s69
    both s69 7 March 2014 03: 56
    0
    The men selected by the people in Donetsk, the chairman of the region Gubarev was arrested. Donetsk - get on your feet and drive away fascist hirelings and hangers-on! We need to help them somehow, otherwise the East of Ukraine will be drowned in blood. crying
  23. Known who
    Known who 7 March 2014 04: 09
    0
    Maidan was organized by 1-2 oligarchs, those who are now governors and / or afloat. In fact, to resolve the situation in Ukraine, you just need to resolve the issue with them and their business.
    1. upasika1918
      upasika1918 7 March 2014 06: 02
      0
      So it will be. The simplest solution is the surest. There is no body, no matter.
  24. -SHADOW-
    -SHADOW- 10 March 2014 14: 34
    0
    Quote: infinite silence ...
    Your words to God in the ears ...
    I think that after March 16 the main movement, distribution and alignment of forces will begin.
    No matter how they puffed up in Kiev ... and it will be difficult for them to recognize the will of the people as illegitimate ... This is not a handful of mayduns doused with some kind of drug, this is the decision of PEOPLE.
    And then Donbass will be. I hope so.

    I hope the Cossacks will not stand aside ...