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Forgive us!

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Forgive us!



I will begin with a warning: I am absolutely convinced that this article, to put it mildly, will not meet an enthusiastic reception. Most likely, everything will be exactly the opposite, for now is the era when any voice of reason is drowning in a stream of hurray-patriotic cries. But this is exactly the case when I just can not help but say what, in my deep conviction, I have to say.

Reading news from Ukraine, looking at the comments of the Russians to them, I am more and more ashamed of my fellow countrymen. Yes, I am also a Soviet man in the past. Yes, I also loved and continue to love my Motherland - the USSR. And it is precisely for this very reason that I am ashamed and painful to read arrogant, cynical and arrogant comments about our Ukrainian brothers. I am ashamed of us, ashamed of Russia.

“A friend is known in trouble” - this is not said by me. There was a trouble with Ukraine, now there is not the slightest doubt in it. I deliberately leave behind the discussion of the reasons that led to this. Future historians should deal with these reasons and they should be a lesson for us all. But this later. Now deal with their analysis - the height of cynicism. It is impossible to stand over the body of a downed man to talk about whether he observed the rules of the road, instead of giving him first aid. And I don’t even know who to be to be ironic about him ...

Yes, the forces that came to power in Ukraine are deeply unsympathetic to me. Yes, I understand that for the most part these are either nationalists and xenophobes, or the fifth column of European democracy, or simply people deceived by nationalist propaganda who do not "know what they are doing." But I have not the slightest doubt that all this muddy foam will subside, will melt without a trace - merciless time will not leave the slightest memory of it. We stay - Russians and Ukrainians.

And I would venture to suggest that the future - our common future - will primarily be determined not by corrupt politicians, not by gas prices and not by political unions. For even the most cynical government can act against the will of its voters only to a certain extent. Our future will be determined by our relationship to each other. It is for him that current events have damaged the scale and the consequences of which can not be overestimated.

I am not a political scientist and not a military analyst and, therefore, I will not dwell on how justified are Russia's current actions in the Crimea. Hopefully, those who make decisions know what they are doing. I am now about something else, I am about what is happening in our media space. It happens everywhere and everywhere, including on this resource. Clever is always distinguished by delicacy. By humiliating your interlocutor, trampling on his self-esteem, you will not receive any dividends and earn another enemy. You will turn a person against yourself even if in fact you were right. Especially in the event that you were right.

We all feel uncomfortable when someone arrogantly and dismissively speaks about what we used to associate ourselves with: our homeland, our successes, the music we listen to, and even just our football team. Even if this team lost, even if its game was below any criticism, it’s all the same our team and on an emotional level, we will always be with her. Even realizing that she always deserves it. The ability to conduct a dialogue in such a way as not to touch the personal strings of your interlocutor, in order not to create in him the impression that he is dealing with an arrogant boor - this is delicacy. It does not mean giving up its opinion at all, it only limits the ways in which we can express this opinion.

Those comments that I have to read on the Web about Ukraine and Ukrainians horrify me. Russia, have you really lost your mind? Is the stream of rudeness, arrogance and cave imperialism really the one that your once great Soul has crouched in? We are trying to divide, you say? Yes, they are trying. And judging by what we write, judging by how we react to the situation, those who are trying to separate us, it is very good at it.

I have news for you guys. Imagine, Ukrainians, too, love their homeland. Believe it or not, they are also proud of their army and their country. And they have something to be proud of. When on video frames I see a Ukrainian officer heading a column of his subordinates with the state flag of Ukraine going to return control over the runways of the airfield entrusted to him by armed people, go unarmed without fear of warning shots, I first see the Man (exactly with a capital letter), true to his oath. I see that he is a warrior and I cannot help but pay tribute to his courage and loyalty to duty. This is the very thing that prompted the commander of "Varyag" to leave the port to meet the entire Japanese squadron. This is what made the garrison of the Brest Fortress continue to defend itself despite the complete hopelessness of its position. This is what allowed our grandfathers - him and mine - to fight in general, to defend their own, then still common Homeland, and to conquer any enemy.

Yes, they do not have our oil. Yes, their army suffers from a lack of funding, old materiel and much more. Actually, their army is exactly what ours would be if we did not have an oil and gas “blessing”. But I, nevertheless, cannot but respect her, seeing how her servicemen do their duty. But I can’t respect my compatriots who commented on this video. I am convinced that most of those who wrote stupid, offensive and gloating comments, unlike an officer, would have instantly escaped at the first sounds of shooting.

One more thing. Remember: “oil and gas blessing” is not a gift or a reason to boast. This is a tool that is given to us in our hands, an examination for maturity, if you wish. How we manage to manage this wealth will determine our grade in this exam. Our task is to use it wisely, including to help the brother in trouble. For it should always be remembered that there is nothing of ours in this world, it is simply given to us for use and the Giver can easily and take away, seeing how foolish and selfish we manage his credit.

I want to appeal to all Russians, who still have at least a little bit of love for their country, self-respect and just common sense: please think what you are writing! You humiliate not Ukrainians, you humiliate yourself. Speaking about the fraternal people in distress scornfully and arrogantly, you demonstrate not at all those qualities that have always been inherent in Russia. Acting like this, you are stupid, you are blind, and most importantly, you are unconsciously controlled, for you pour water into the mill of those who are trying to drive a wedge between our peoples.

I want to appeal to the most adult part of the Russian society - to those who still remember the USSR, who still preserved the memory of our friendship and did not slip into the small and narrow-minded little town nationalism implanted in us: please use all your influence, all your authority, to call out to order those who revel in their imperial exclusivity. Remind them that repentance is always waiting for narcissistic talkers.

And I want to appeal to the Ukrainians. Just with two words: “forgive us". Seeing all that muddy filth that is being poured by the Russian media in your address, I realize that my requests are almost hopeless and hand on my heart, I do not believe that you can forgive us.
But if you still can - I'm sorry ...
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  1. ilya_82
    ilya_82 5 March 2014 08: 10
    +17
    Driving a blizzard man
    1. Canep
      Canep 5 March 2014 08: 14
      +19
      Quote: ilya_82
      Chasing a man
      It looks like this, if you apologize .... then this is necessary for those who invested 5 lards in order to make Ukraine as it has become.
      1. evgenii67
        evgenii67 5 March 2014 08: 21
        +34
        I have nothing to apologize for, like most Russians (at least on the VO website) I did not insult or humiliate my Ukrainian brother, but the Bandera riffraff and the so-called "new power" (which I do not consider brothers) are still able to do. I'm afraid they'll ban me. You would be a respected author with a request to apologize to the "comrades" who "Moscow ... her" hate appealed!
        1. Magadan
          Magadan 5 March 2014 13: 16
          +2
          The author speaks about an insult specifically to UKRAINE and not to Bandera riffraff. And there are these insults! You just don’t notice yourself. You think so, purely for fun.
          In the 90s I had to listen a lot of insults and humiliations against Russia. The Yankees also thought it was purely fun. It didn’t seem so to me. And thank God that now they can all stick their tongues in one place, but this is not a reason to stick out and even more insult the descendants of those who created the greatness of Russia.
      2. Field
        Field 5 March 2014 09: 25
        +9
        Agitation and obviously from Ukraine
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 5 March 2014 11: 36
          +1
          One more thing. Remember: “oil and gas blessing” is not a gift or a reason to boast. This is a tool that is given to us in our hands, an examination for maturity, if you wish. How we manage to manage this wealth will determine our grade in this exam.

          I almost said a curse or an oil and gas needle !!! And this is how it felt right almost from the tongue he did not break !!! No.
          Counselor Mlyn are such people and they smear the nozzles on the face of our liberals and human rights defenders, and they change diapers when they are large and small ... !!! They collect denyushkas like these on the Maidan and praise the marshlands! Ugh! negative
          about what is happening in our media space. It happens everywhere and everywhere, including on this resource. Clever is always distinguished by delicacy.

          Beliefs your nedopolitologi and eaten away ruble is not worth it !!! negative
        2. MstislavHrabr
          MstislavHrabr 5 March 2014 11: 58
          +8
          I think a man wrote from the bottom of his heart. Arrogance in relation to our brothers and on our website is enough. And this is really bad. But how to relate to a brother who becomes an enemy of your enemy ?!
          1. Wedmak
            Wedmak 5 March 2014 12: 14
            +5
            But how to relate to a brother who becomes an enemy of your enemy ?!

            "Well son, did your Poles help you?"
        3. operator35
          operator35 5 March 2014 12: 52
          0
          Quote: Field
          Agitation and obviously from Ukraine

          The NSA works))) I personally do not apologize, do not need it here for everyone!
      3. GDP
        GDP 5 March 2014 09: 51
        +7
        Far Maidan provocateurs climbed. Now, after Putin’s ultimatum, they will begin to build innocent sheep out of themselves, so that later they will slowly begin to push through the old policy.
        To Russian as a people disappeared from the face of Ukraine ...
        Uncle Seryozha - go fool the head of the zapadents here you won’t succeed!
      4. Kite
        Kite 5 March 2014 11: 12
        -1
        The author put it quite fully. And he is right! His call not to gloat over trouble. If you want to express criticism, then express with arguments, address negative emotions to specific people.
        I don’t know what kind of episode happened on the runway, but if it’s as it is written (an officer with a banner came out to negotiate) it’s a very worthy deed, especially if you managed to avoid shedding fraternal blood!
        1. Kite
          Kite 5 March 2014 11: 51
          +1
          And if someone calls the Ukrainian military disparaging warriors, then for me this is either complete fool or an ugly provocateur, eager for a shootout among soldiers in general, then one (potentially, for now) army. Ukrainians know how to fight no worse than us! But, the hand does not rise, they do not want to delight the makeynov. And we do not want this.
          Give a link where this officer with the banner of his army but with the cry of another country shoots our soldiers, then I will despise him.
          1. Ustas
            Ustas 5 March 2014 14: 41
            0
            Quote: Kite
            Give me a link

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLMA-G6woD8
            1. Kite
              Kite 5 March 2014 19: 31
              +2
              Thanks for looking. I was outraged only by the presence of an English-speaking commissioner-reporter, here he is exactly nida, well, and another one who shouted "America is with us." But in general, the situation is common - when an officer has an oath on the one hand and a conscience on the other, all that remains is to go out and die under the banner (oath), but without weapons (conscience). Psychological warfare, you know, it is difficult for them to figure out whether their own people (most of them) really do not accept impostors. And it's great that there was no blood! I hope they soon have a duty and conscience to unite and they will drive the remnants of Banderlog into the deepest dung pit.
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 6 March 2014 09: 02
                0
                What is the oath? Who? Fascists of the "right sector" who staged an armed coup? He swore allegiance to the people of Ukraine. Which is personified by the President and BP. It is bad, very bad that the people are personified. And it is even worse that people like Yanuca and the deputies personify (and we are no better). But BP does not have a quorum for its work, and the President was generally kicked out. So for whom to pull the ointment? For whom to go with the flag?
                1. Kite
                  Kite 6 March 2014 14: 58
                  0
                  Quote: alicante11
                  What is the oath?

                  - Yes, how do you explain? For example, I swore an oath to carry out the orders of commanders, chiefs, the government of the USSR, now only the chiefs and commanders are sworn.
                  Therefore, the question is what should be done if the order is from the chief, and the government does not allow confusion, the wife does not let him into the service, cries, and then there are colleagues and officer honor. Is it difficult to combine everything in this case? I wrote about that.
                  Quote: alicante11
                  bad, very bad that people personify

                  - Are you sure about that? It was under the interim government in 1917 that the soldiers' councils decided whether to go on the attack or to shoot officers.
          2. alicante11
            alicante11 6 March 2014 08: 59
            0
            You see, what is the situation here, "warriors" are those who did not defend the country against the Bandera bastards. And those who are still defending this Bandera scum, not allowing the people of Ukraine to arm themselves in order to repulse it. I won't give it to anyone else, dogs in the manger. Where were all these heroes before? We sat behind the fences, and when the Molotov cocktails began to arrive, they scattered from their units, as it was in Lviv? And now they proudly "with flags" on the machine guns? Didn't think why this? Everything is simple. There were no video cameras and people were actually killed there. And here there are video cameras and there is no order to open fire to kill. That is why these "warriors" have become so brave. No one will say "warriors" about the soldiers of the Berkut and about the Kiev boys of the VV-shnikov, we perfectly saw who they were - fighters, knights. No one will say so about those who even now swear allegiance to the people, refusing to carry out the orders of the fascist government. Well, what can you do, a person is weak by nature in the main. And he needs a leader who will rise to the attack. And those then were not found. Well, at least for the leaders they go to the cause of honor. And so there are no complaints about them either. And to those who are loyal to the Nazis - to them not only claims, they should be tried and imprisoned, at least like Stalin. Actually, it would be better to shoot.
        2. Ustas
          Ustas 5 March 2014 14: 32
          0
          Quote: Kite
          but if so, as it is written (the officer with the banner came to negotiations

          There is such an episode on YouTube. I expressed my opinion about him below.
    2. Alex 241
      Alex 241 5 March 2014 08: 18
      +47
      A brave officer with a banner and shouting: "America is with us" bravely goes to the trunks, and immediately a film crew is ambushed by accident! Dear Akstis! And if for you nonhumans who burn people alive are just foam that will subside, then what about You speak! And we have nothing to ask for forgiveness, and no one.
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 5 March 2014 11: 43
        +5
        There was nothing of the kind there .. Television people, as always, blinded what they want to see in Kiev ... "Valiant" warriors plunged into vertices and departed in the direction of Nikolaev ... In general, there is a massive distortion and escalation of the situation in the "truthful" Ukrainian media ....
    3. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 5 March 2014 08: 27
      +8
      Quote: ilya_82
      Driving a blizzard man

      Most likely, a large-scale action of the Ukrainian oligarchy began, they realized that the assets could take away ....
      Here is the link: http: //politobzor.net/show-14484-vosstanie-yugo-vostoka-nachali-pod
      avlyat-odessa-harkov-doneck.html
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 5 March 2014 08: 55
      +20
      When on video frames I see a Ukrainian officer heading a column of his subordinates with the state flag of Ukraine going to return the runways captured by armed people under their control
      Uncle Seryozha, and pride does not burst you when provocateurs yell -America with us? Are you embarrassed by the presence of western correspondents and a video on YouTube with an English title?
      The brains were completely bent off, watching the espresso channel.
      Remind them that narcissistic talkers are always waiting for repentance.
      Forgive the author, but for example I can’t call Obama and tell him this. And I don’t have a Klitschko number either hi
      1. aksakal
        aksakal 5 March 2014 11: 05
        +11
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The brains were completely lost when watching the Espresso TV channel. Remind them that narcissistic talkers are always waiting for remorse
        - wow, songs are changing right before our eyes laughing At first, a large Lviv official suddenly discovered that he knew Russian well and found himself tolerant of Russian laughing Where was this tolerance sitting in it just a couple of weeks ago? Was she sitting so deep? So deep down? Now this article - do not humiliate us, we are here heroically under the bullets! I don’t remember that the Ukrainians were somehow humiliated and insulted, all the posts - "We are one people, we are Slavs!" Of course, they clearly separated the Galician Bandera from Ukraine, and even I, a resident of a completely foreign country, had already begun to understand that a Ukrian and a Galician with Bandera views are completely two different peoples, who, by the incomprehensible grin of Mother History, united into one country. At the same time, as an outside observer, it is very clear to me that it is the Galicians who want to dominate the common country, hold political power, determine the vector of development and at the same time do nothing, not develop science and industry. Ukraine has it all, but Eastern Ukrainians are invited to work in this area. Simply put, one ethnic group would like to sit tightly on the neck of another and legitimize this matter by all possible means. It doesn't seem right to me. But Europe has a lot to learn - for example, the Welsh and Flemings get along well in Belgium without any Maidans and cave Nazism. Therefore, when local forumchaes give due assessment to such inclinations to sit on the neck, sometimes (why hide, and in a harsh form), Uncle Seryozha appears and claims that ah-ah-ay, there is one people there - Ukrainians, and you stiffen them. No, dear, there are two peoples, and it is the Galician who is shamelessly, impudently, and with the help of fire and Molotov cocktails, striving for power, is subjected to harsh assessments. But when he is not even stopped, but simply on his way, a well-equipped fighter friendly to the country calmly becomes, showing with all kinds what will happen if ..., then a howl begins. Why local members of the forum should politely respond to "willows on knives!"? I do not understand.
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 5 March 2014 11: 06
          +4
          Actually, I’m thinking like that - whether to go to the west or to Russia is an honest referendum of the whole people. Why it was not carried out from the very beginning is not clear. Again, Ukrainians want to go to Europe. Why, in addition to the Belgians, do not study with the same Swiss? They hold referendums for any reason and then honestly bring them to life. How does Ukraine want to be in Europe without completely owning much of what Europe owns without having many useful traditions?
          We go further - the President and all power must be elected in the elections! And before the elections, an interim Government of Popular Confidence is formed from the already elected regional governors. Well, etc. All other options will not meet here with respect or politeness - do not even ask! With the help of Molotov cocktails and batons, take power and then demand respect for yourself - fire! Even I, a resident of a third-party country - DO NOT GO TO RESPECT SUCH! And I will not respect such Ukraine with SUCH here, with the power thus taken!
          As they say, form a legitimate authority, and then you can already speak in a civilized manner. Speaking with masked impostors, with the instincts of grabbing at ties is not that civilized, in general no one will even politely speak. Let them go back to their gangster underground. This is the end of this argument. You, don’t insult the Ukrainian! This is this beaten Ukrainian
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 5 March 2014 11: 56
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        When on video frames I see a Ukrainian officer heading a column of his subordinates with the state flag of Ukraine going to return the runways captured by armed people under their control

        hi You just need to attach the video again! Where are the proud military .....
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 5 March 2014 12: 07
          +1
          Quote: Sid.74
          Where are the proud military .....

          Yes, I saw this video, I need to ask this author of the article.
          hi hi
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 5 March 2014 12: 12
            +1
            Welcome hi !
            And another video for expensive swamps of maydanut liberoids !!!

            Brehliv Ukrainian media apparently many brains washed!
            See see the liberals !!! We are fascists and not Bendera! am
            1. lab29
              lab29 5 March 2014 16: 59
              0
              It is necessary to put the wipers on the monitor! all spat out !!!)) am
            2. Horst78
              Horst78 5 March 2014 17: 25
              0
              1. Schuster, what did you want from him?
              2. Clark is a war criminal responsible for the deaths of dozens, or even hundreds of thousands of civilians in Yugoslavia.
        2. DON-100
          DON-100 5 March 2014 12: 44
          +2
          They are carrying the Soviet flag and shouting "America is with us!" Disgrace) More like a crowd of fans than officers. Moreover, surrounded by Western journalists. Performance for Western and own media. Heroes))) Ours did not even have to shoot in the air.
        3. Wedmak
          Wedmak 5 March 2014 13: 17
          0
          Sorry, but this is not even a performance. This is some kind of farce, public play, provocation. moreover, the Western public. There is also a crowd (!) Of journalists, ostentatiously filming the military with machine guns and RPGs. These are the officers ???? They walk like a crowd of gopniks, waving banners, their fists show someone, "America is with us", they sing songs ... what kind of circus is this ????? A few people are simply inadequate.
    5. avt
      avt 5 March 2014 09: 42
      +8
      Quote: ilya_82
      Driving a blizzard man

      Eh no !! Quite a swampy, liberoid delirium from the heart. Well, I believed that we had been drummed into for almost 30 years that he was a worthless empty place and the country where he lives - “Upper Volta with rockets.” Well, when I saw that reality did not agree with his thoughts, I went into a fit of sadomasochism, but in hindsight I realized that his thoughts are delusional, he is looking for his "comrades-in-arms" in sex life, and therefore the name of the article in the plural he spelled out, and as a result of this, purely in intellectual terms, he appointed himself "the bearer of the repentance of the lost souls of compatriots." at the beginning of the "glorious deeds" the humpbacks went through, all exactly like a kopirku. And even worse - the Cossack was sent, the Vlasov uniform was trying on. What can you wish? To sit well to think and return to the normal orientation of the perception of the world, but in the second case - how to push someone into the abyss, go and drown in the Arctic Ocean, if the reality is so disgusting.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 5 March 2014 12: 00
        +1
        And the other side of the medal! That's how they really were you don't know laughing

        "The Ukrainian military has demonstrated that they exercise full control over the aircraft parking, weapons depot, and control room.
        Russians stood near the warehouse with weapons, made several bursts into the air, but then withdrew, "Tymchuk noted.
        "The runway and the guardhouse remain under the control of the occupants," he said.

        And we "naive" "occupants" should apologize to the liberals to beat the liberals! ???
        There is no such icon here that I would like to insert, but Nuland verbally demonstrated this sign in relation to the EU !!!!!!!! am
    6. RUSLAN39
      RUSLAN39 5 March 2014 10: 51
      +2
      Intelligence is always distinguished by delicacy. By humiliating your interlocutor, trampling his self-esteem you will not receive any dividends and earn another enemy.
      - That's it, Uncle Seryozha, that's it ... You, of course, didn’t offend anyone with your article. Delicate found. Apparently the Russians and Ukrainians have different ideas about delicacy!
      When I see in a video frame how a Ukrainian officer, at the head of a column of his subordinates with the state flag of Ukraine, is going to return to his control the take-off strips of the airdrome entrusted to him, unarmed, not afraid of warning shots, then I first see the Man (exactly so, with a capital letter), true to his Oath.
      - "Forgot" to mention the journalists? And the screams "America is with us" generally plunged me into a stupor! What kind of naive Uncle Seryozha are you?
    7. operrus
      operrus 5 March 2014 11: 15
      +1
      We will not apologize for anything, our media about Ukraine and about what was going on there began to write actively for only an hour (before that, unfortunately they were silent), that people were brainwashed and washed, and at the same time they are hostile towards us, you don’t say . We are ready to help everyone who lives in Ukraine, not even looking at our material and political losses, but what they are ready for against us, aggression, free gas, what we simply owe to them in life and plus to give our territory. We do not pull them by force. They want to live in that swamp, let them live, if the smart ones themselves understand that they were mistaken, but if they are fools then they will be used further by Uncle Sam. They now have a chance to be with Russia, how to use it to solve them. Previously, there was only propaganda from the West, now there is an alternative but they don’t want to listen to it, we do our best to let them hear us if they don’t want to hear this business of them. We can’t cuddle with them like small children. For 23 years, it’s time to grow up. And I don’t need to apologize for me, I don’t want the bad people of Ukraine, but just express my point of view, I think like most of those present here.
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    9. Lesnik
      Lesnik 5 March 2014 11: 44
      -2
      Quote: ilya_82
      Driving a blizzard man

      Argument - DO YOU RESPOND FOR YOUR "BAZAR"? negative
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 6 March 2014 09: 09
        0
        Argument - DO YOU RESPOND FOR YOUR "BAZAR"?


        Yes arguments - 90% of the comments. What else is needed? And after all, none of them is refuted.
    10. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 5 March 2014 12: 11
      +3
      It seems that it’s like Russia, the Russians created a pro-fascist chauvinist state, whose people desecrate the monuments of Ukrainians, common history, attack people, threaten the lives of ordinary Ukrainians living in Russia, and the worst - they gather an army to protect the wealth of those who came to power .

      To the author - if a Ukrainian is a brother to a Russian Russian, what the hell ... does a Ukrainian oppose all Russian in his own country? praises the fascists who brought so much grief to both countries, is it so now showing friendship? What is this if not hypocrisy?
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    11. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 5 March 2014 15: 03
      +1
      Quote: ilya_82
      Driving a blizzard man


      Forgive us ... GOD WILL FORGIVE YOU!
  2. Patton5
    Patton5 5 March 2014 08: 13
    +6
    Not all Maidan bypassed
  3. calocha
    calocha 5 March 2014 08: 15
    +4
    Not Uncle Seryozha, but a weeping princess. wassat
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  4. Strashila
    Strashila 5 March 2014 08: 15
    +13
    Call the Nazis the last after Ukrainians ... and don’t anoint them with jam ... just think what you write. Let’s clearly understand the Ukrainian people, they are multinational, like the Russian people, but frankly Russian ... but call the bearers of the national idea of ​​the Nazis. .. it’s sorry, it’s not in any framework.
    Claims to everything Russian-speaking is the first stage ... then the split will go to faith ... the western part is Catholics and they are not on the way with the Orthodox, having strengthened in the secular field they will put pressure on the spiritual as well.
    Just look ... who supports whom and everything will become clear.
  5. invisibility
    invisibility 5 March 2014 08: 16
    +19
    Imagine, Ukrainians also love their homeland.

    And no doubt! I will say more, I also love Russian, because I consider it part of my homeland! And my only desire is that the Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians be united and have one Motherland. And I don’t remember something that on our site someone (except trolls) spoke scornfully of Ukrainians ...
    Thank you for the warning, of course.
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    2. Neophyte
      Neophyte 5 March 2014 09: 42
      +5
      I join the opinion of the Invisible! Three sisters -Ukraine,
      Belarus, Russia!
  6. bodriy
    bodriy 5 March 2014 08: 16
    +10
    Yes, I’ve just talked with the same person on the social network ... I just don’t see any reason to explain something to them! According to their statements, the Nazis do not exist in the country, but we are invaders ... we already went through this! They all seem to be poisoned by one foolishness !!!
    1. GDP
      GDP 5 March 2014 09: 56
      +1
      we already passed it! they all seem to be poisoned by one foolishness !!!

      And this nonsense is called Western and Western propaganda and paid media ...
  7. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 5 March 2014 08: 19
    +10
    I will not give any assessment to the article.
    The author’s feelings are clear, but it’s not clear where patriotism and pride are.
    Over 20 over the years, Ukraine has not become a state. All these years, it was feverish and nailed, about to NATO, about to Russia, and even to the radicals.
    Such behavior of a nation, nation or ethnic group allows us to say that such a country simply does not exist, there are political forces from one or another ethnic group that is part of this territory, which from time to time rule Ukraine in their interests, primarily for the purpose of enrichment.
    What kind of understanding should we talk about and what conscience should Russian people in Ukraine de facto become third-rate. Even the Crimean Tatars are already considered something better than the Russians, only because their Majlis and their position for power in Kiev are furiously positioned.
    There is nothing for us to make excuses for, no one to apologize to. Kiev rulers under direct control from the United States, what else to talk about. And the people of Ukraine took the power of nationalists and fascists de facto and does nothing to counter them. So it supports. How can one speak to such a people (Westernizers) from a position of understanding and respect.
    Not. Each of us members of the forum has a point of view, and we speak out of course from our bell tower, but objectively reflecting the threats of Russia and through it to ourselves personally.
    1. zzz
      zzz 5 March 2014 09: 12
      +3
      Quote: mojohed2012
      There is nothing for us to make excuses for, no one to apologize to.


      How does everyone want us to apologize to the whole world - for what we are!

      To justify is to admit your mistake.
      1. alone
        alone 5 March 2014 20: 17
        0
        Quote: zzz
        To justify is to admit your mistake.

        I will not justify or condemn the actions of Russia. My view of the problem has long been known.
        And if this is a mistake, then you need to stupidly and brainlessly rely on and still claim that the truth is ours? And who will benefit from this?
  8. dmitriygorshkov
    dmitriygorshkov 5 March 2014 08: 19
    +6
    Arrogance, hypocrisy on Russian sites? You go to YOUR sites from a Russian server! In short, as the previous speaker correctly said, you’re persecuting! And don’t need to disguise ostentatious repentance! Better tell Uncle Seryozha, you overseas guardians have waved you away? You're not us , you sell your children!
  9. svp67
    svp67 5 March 2014 08: 19
    +19
    And I want to appeal to the Ukrainians. With just two words: "forgive us."
    Something "Tolstoy" is too much ... Yes, we have too much coverage of events in Ukraine, but what can we apologize for ..?
    Maybe they make sense to apologize, for this:


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    2. Humpty
      Humpty 5 March 2014 08: 49
      +6
      They are not told why they are being kept.
    3. acute
      acute 5 March 2014 11: 19
      +1
      In Germany, in 1933 it began the same way. until in 1945 it ended in Berlin. The Germans still remember this. But how much did it cost the world?
    4. alexdol
      alexdol 5 March 2014 12: 05
      +2
      svp67 SU ". Yes, we have too much coverage of events in Ukraine."
      ----------------------------------------------------------------------
      I don’t know what BREAKING are we talking about? So I mainly read news from MAIL.RU and on the MILITARY REVIEW. What I would like to say: MAYL.RU provides TRENDIOUS information, I would compare it with the FIFTH column, it seems to be RUSSIAN, but works against RUSSIA! And you are talking about some sort of BREAKING! I'm even going to write a letter to them and offer them to stop giving out anti-Russian information ... So there is no need for RUSSIA to apologize, and if you watch the speech of this oligarch from Kolomoisky, I think you will agree with my proposal that Putin should organize something like it was with "Trotsky" ...
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 5 March 2014 12: 15
        +2
        I agree about the soap ... Yes, and Yandex is also good ...
  10. Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 5 March 2014 08: 23
    +9
    Quote: ilya_82
    Driving a blizzard man

    This is not a swamp.
    And not a denunciation.
    And not even cowardice.

    I agree with the main thing.
    It is impossible to humiliate Ukrainians in any form.
    No joy in the events.
    Awful. what came to that.

    But you can’t retreat ...
  11. makarov
    makarov 5 March 2014 08: 23
    -28%
    SW Author.
    I have no doubt that a lot of insults and threats will be poured into your address now.
    People are far from understanding that the actions that the Russian government did were beneficial primarily to the United States. This has already happened once, the entry of troops into Afghanistan. And what good did it lead to?
    Now it should be understood that before the events, according to the Constitution, Ukraine was a non-aligned country, and now it wants to be in a bloc, because it seeks protection from a neighbor. Whether this will really happen (?), I don’t know, but politicians say this loudly and officially. The Russian Federation signed the Budapest Memorandum, and Ukraine surrendered its nuclear weapons, and now they are starting t.s. ride on the ass, arguing that we say they did not give guarantees. Pay attention to the positioning of the governments of Kazakhstan and Belarus, they are restrained, and are far from approval of the introduction of troops of the Russian Federation.
    The situation that has developed, in my opinion, will be dissipated for more than a decade. Unfortunately!!!!
    1. Igarr
      Igarr 5 March 2014 08: 39
      +26
      Horseradish, a non-aligned country .... bullet with Soviet weapons on Russian aircraft.
      Horseradish ... loving rulers, allowing Ukrainian mercenaries to fight against Russia.
      Horseradish, businessmen ... stealing gas and blocking valves to Europe, although responsible for all of Russia.
      Nothing, friends, trying to place radioactive slag near Rostov, Belgorod. Ours is not enough, we will drag a foreign one, right?
      Nothing, bros - urging the Russian-speaking people to outlaw (Farion ...), and in the border areas to begin subversive activities.
      ..
      Makarov, is it I raving?
      Or someone else?
      1. acute
        acute 5 March 2014 11: 33
        +1
        Yes, that's how people get to know
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    3. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 5 March 2014 08: 42
      +8
      Quote: makarov
      Under the Constitution, Ukraine was a non-aligned country, and now it wants to be in a bloc, because it seeks protection from its neighbor. Whether this will really happen (?), I don’t know, but politicians say this loudly and officially.

      What politicians, dear? Those that are currently in the Rada? So they had dreamed about NATO before the entry of troops, there is nothing new here.
    4. Uncle Serozha
      5 March 2014 08: 46
      -17%
      Quote: makarov
      SW Author.
      I have no doubt that a lot of insults and threats will be poured into your address now.

      1. I knew what was going on.
      2. It doesn’t bother me at all.

      Quote: makarov

      People are far from understanding that the actions that the Russian government did were beneficial primarily to the United States.
      ........
      The situation that has developed, in my opinion, will be dissipated for more than a decade. Unfortunately!!!!

      I agree. :(
      1. Oleg Sobol
        Oleg Sobol 5 March 2014 09: 08
        +10
        Dear Sergey.

        1. Referring to the minds of others, first of all, set your own.
        2. Referring to the nation of Ukrainians, remember that there is no Russian nation and especially Ukrainian, no Belarus. BUT, there is a Russian people living in the divided territories of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine.
        3. Referring to what History will later judge, it will understand. Look at how much history has understood in your country today, and what it understood and where it led with that understanding.
        4. Referring to the Officers of Ukraine who are loyal to the Oath. Let it be known to you that the Oath is not given to the Government, BUT to the People !!! And if this is really an Officer and a Soldier of his People, his Country, Then it’s high time for them Not to sit behind fences, their units, but to loudly declare to the whole pack that at the moment "rules" for you, Let's Get Go where you got out ! And stand up for the people!
        5. I do not minus your article. Because I understand perfectly well what you wanted to convey. Another thing is that you made the problem somewhat one-sided and, unfortunately, from the point of view of the Ukrainian, and not from the point of view of the Person of the Common Russian Family ...
      2. Svetlana
        Svetlana 5 March 2014 09: 23
        +4
        Quote: Uncle Seryozha
        Quote: makarov

        People are far from understanding that the actions that the Russian government did were beneficial primarily to the United States.
        ........
        The situation that has developed, in my opinion, will be dissipated for more than a decade. Unfortunately!!!!
        I agree. :(

        Well, well, more in detail! What actions of the government of the Russian Federation are beneficial for the USA What do you think is profitable for the USA? Start a war with Russia? Have a reason to get into Ukraine? So they have been living there for a long time! Do you not notice them? What did they do on the Maidan if this is a popular revolution? What do they have to do with the people?
      3. Kazakh
        Kazakh 5 March 2014 09: 46
        +7
        SW Author.
        I have no doubt that a lot of insults and threats will be poured into your address now.

        1. I knew what was going on.
        2. It doesn’t bother me at all.
        Dear author, you forgot to attribute "I'm not afraid of anyone, America is with me"
      4. Magyar
        Magyar 5 March 2014 09: 59
        +7
        Author Good afternoon. You will learn to separate the grains from the chaff. To familiarize yourself with the situation, go to the Ukrainian forum and read the comments of the participants, you will make a lot of discoveries for yourself. There are enough inadequate everywhere, anyone with a clear understanding of what is happening in Ukraine, came to power shortly with the support of the West, nationalists who hate Russia and the Russian people, these moods have been warmed up for 20 years and now it’s climax. Regarding the Promotions arranged for recording on a camera for an audience in the West, you got very excited, the Brave officer went ahead knowing that 100% would shoot only in the air, the special forces ordered to avoid any incidents in every possible way, while shouting America with us, flaunting the camera about what else to say. The Ukrainian people are our brother, but only the one who shares our love and friendship. And not the gentlemen who shout at rallies that they need to kill the Russians. Russia is acting in proportion to the prevailing situation, understanding what is at stake. I’ll say to myself that half of the Hungarian blood flows in my veins, an employee of one of the Power Structures of the Russian Federation, and I’m very proud of it. Russia for me is not only the Motherland, it is something that cannot be explained with what words, something Secret, Soulful, I Love Her madly. I wish you not bad, not good. Pros, Cons did not set.
    5. DON-100
      DON-100 5 March 2014 08: 47
      -10%
      I put you a plus, but a minus got out. request
      You are right, this situation will spoil relations between the two nations for a long time.
      1. nemec55
        nemec55 5 March 2014 09: 10
        +9
        This situation will never spoil the relationship with the people, but with the fascists we are not on the way anyway. And the people of Ukraine are chanting RUSSIA RUSSIA !!!!!!
        1. DON-100
          DON-100 5 March 2014 11: 13
          -5
          Not everything is so simple and simple. I have former classmates and colleagues living in Ukraine, they are Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainians, they all voted for Yanukovych and believe that he betrayed them, but they do not support maydaunov. But at the same time, they are all against the entry of Russian troops and, according to them, most of their fellow citizens think the same. No one wants bloodshed between fraternal peoples. They do not want a conflict with Russia, they ask only one that they are given the right to decide their own fate and respect their decision. According to them, no one is infringing Russian-speaking and the Russian media are, to put it mildly, exaggerating. Something like this.
          1. Kazakh
            Kazakh 5 March 2014 11: 41
            +3
            According to them, no one is infringing Russian-speaking and the Russian media are, to put it mildly, exaggerating. Something like this.
            And the Russians on Russian knives on gilyaka is just a hangover chant?
          2. aleks 62
            aleks 62 5 March 2014 12: 11
            +2
            As for exaggerations, I would ask those living there, not the brainwashed "friends" ... As a witness of the events, I will say one thing that the Russian media, in general, correctly cover events, which cannot be said about the "independent" media ...
            1. DON-100
              DON-100 5 March 2014 12: 54
              -2
              My friends (without quotation marks) live there, in Ukraine, and it is impossible for them to be "brainwashed". Learn to respect the opinions of others, even if you disagree with them.
              1. Luzhichanin
                Luzhichanin 5 March 2014 13: 43
                0
                youth - plasticine: sculpt what I want. so brainwashing them is easy.
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              3. Elizabeth
                Elizabeth 5 March 2014 17: 57
                +1
                Future historians should deal with these reasons and they should be a lesson for us all.

                The analysis of the causes of artificial insanity and mass debilitation should not be dealt with by historians, but by psychiatrists and developers of psychotropic technologies. The latter can report to customers about a successful mass experiment to change consciousness, to install information filters on certain areas of the brain. This is about those whose brain is still active.
                My friends (without quotation marks) live there, in Ukraine, and it is impossible for them to be "brainwashed".
                This seems to be true, because you cannot rinse what is not.
                1. rereture
                  rereture 5 March 2014 20: 07
                  0
                  And it seems to me that half of those standing on the Maidan were addicted to drugs.
          3. makarov
            makarov 5 March 2014 12: 58
            -1
            but who can listen to you calmly now? 77 I have been talking about this for 2 days, but most unfortunately have one movie in their head that only Russian troops will save Ukraine. They don’t even get it in their heads that they are not needed here, and if they enter, they will be enemies.
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 5 March 2014 13: 23
              +2
              I’ve been talking about this for 2 days, but most unfortunately have one movie in their head that only Russian troops will save Ukraine.

              And who will save? Your army And what did she do when the Nazis seized power in Kiev? I sat behind the fences. Or NATO troops? So they will arrange for you a scorched earth cleaner than Iraq. Do you want to live at the point of an American soldier?
              They don’t even get it in their heads that they are not needed here, and if they enter, they will be enemies.

              Not needed? Do you speak for all the people or do you have a pistol of the protégé of Kiev attached to your temple? Why would our troops suddenly become enemies? All my life have been friends, and now enemies? No one is going to capture Ukraine, especially Russia.
          4. alicante11
            alicante11 6 March 2014 09: 17
            0
            I have former classmates and colleagues living in Ukraine, they are Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainians, they all voted for Yanukovych and believe that he betrayed them, but they do not support maydaunov. But at the same time, they are all against the entry of Russian troops and, according to them, most of their fellow citizens think the same.


            Why "Against"? What is the reason?

            They do not want a conflict with Russia, they ask only one that they are given the right to decide their own fate and respect their decision.


            And who wants? On the contrary, our government and the army are doing everything to prevent conflict.
    6. svp67
      svp67 5 March 2014 08: 53
      +5
      Quote: makarov
      People are far from understanding what actions the government of the Russian Federation did

      Better Vladimir Vladimirovich I will not answer
    7. Svetlana
      Svetlana 5 March 2014 08: 53
      +9
      Excuse me, of course, but who will feel bad about the fact that the Russian Federation (only in the feminine gender, and not like you, on average) will introduce its troops if the Nazi government begins to impose its order on the Russian South-East? Will you feel bad? How do you explain? Will they fight you? With your children and wives? What exactly is bad you personally see in the entry of Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine? Legally, formally, this is a different state. In fact, this is our land, our historical homeland. And even more so, Crimea, in general, until recently was part of the RSFSR. Are you for the fact that the Ukrainian Nazis gave up our Russian land from time immemorial to the "NATO hawks"? Isn't that what betrayal and hypocrisy is about? Here on the site no one insults the Ukrainian people, we deeply and sincerely worry about them, because we are Slavs. And we understand why NATO needs Ukraine. It is a pity that you still have not understood this. When you realize, it may be too late, they will set you up NATO bases on our long-suffering land, and you will serve the Americans like slaves. Do you really want this? Or maybe together with Russia you will fight the Nazis? They themselves will not leave, do not hope. Not for that they were rushing to power with Bandera portraits and the fascist swastika.
    8. 528Obrp
      528Obrp 5 March 2014 09: 22
      +4
      the memorandum is not an international treaty because it does not have legally binding force
      In addition, it is not ratified.
      It is a document as strong as the treaty on not expanding NATO to the east. Kohl Ukraine marks in NATO, then the memorandum on the side.
    9. oracul
      oracul 5 March 2014 09: 28
      +2
      And Ukraine has been moving towards this for a long time and hard - all twenty years of its independence. Russophobia pearl from the submission of Galicia and Volhynia, the government indulged this, it was for this reason that a generation has grown up that in many respects hates everything Russian. Even Hitler did not try to forbid speaking other languages. A frank attempt is being made to force the assimilation of Russians, and you are talking about blocs. Yes, the authorities, Kiev and the western regions of Ukraine have long aspired to the EU and NATO. It was just not enough that Russia would help them in this. And do not forget who signed the Bialowieza Agreement, the Budapest Memorandum, who torn Russia and from which pit we had to get out. Do not do good (do not indulge) - you will not receive evil. Do not strive to be smarter than the people.
    10. Humpty
      Humpty 5 March 2014 09: 28
      +3
      [quote = makarov]
      "Pay attention to the positioning of the governments of Kazakhstan and Belarus, they are restrained, and far from approving the introduction of Russian troops."

      It is impossible not to pay attention to this, because this is not the first time. I do not recall the active condemnation of Georgians for the murders of Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia. CSTO members did not mumble anything intelligible, condemning the treachery of the Georgians.
      1. 528Obrp
        528Obrp 5 March 2014 09: 34
        +3
        Quote: Humpty
        Pay attention to the positioning of the governments of Kazakhstan and Belarus, they are restrained, and far from approving the introduction of Russian troops. "

        They have a completely pragmatic wait-and-see attitude: each of them is afraid of color revolutions, oh, how afraid. So they are looking to see if the Russian Federation will be able to protect them if something happens, or will have to go to bed with a "clear conscience". In the case of Belarus, displacing Old Man)
        IMHO
    11. dmb
      dmb 5 March 2014 09: 44
      +3
      Being in agreement with the author about "beating drums and blowing pipes", I want to ask him and you: what do you offer in essence? I would like to note that in the Crimea and the Kharkiv region, self-defense units do not consist of "Kremlin agents", but ... to Bily, dragging a representative of the state by the tie. authorities are sitting not in a cell, but in a tavern. In my opinion, Putin differs from Yanukovych only in confidence, backed by oil and gas reserves, and he PROMISED (and did not send) troops only for one reason; people will take it out. like Yanyka, if millions of refugees from Ukraine pour into Russia. And this is real. So I ask you, how can these refugees be avoided?
    12. Kazakh
      Kazakh 5 March 2014 09: 44
      0
      makarov

      SW Author.
      I have no doubt that a lot of insults and threats will be poured into your address now.
      And where are the threats, show at least one? Threats are not our method
    13. uhu189
      uhu189 5 March 2014 11: 04
      +2
      Dear makarov. We cannot know from what information this decision was made. Our level of awareness can not be compared with the level of awareness of the President of the Russian Federation, what may seem wrong and illogical to us here, from his level will be the only possible solution. Russia has been silent for a very long time in this whole situation, and the fact that the decision was made in the last days for me personally shows that it was a conscious and carefully thought-out decision. And we will see its consequences, I’m sure that it will not be as tragic for Ukraine as it seems to you.
    14. acute
      acute 5 March 2014 11: 30
      0
      Budapest memorandum, now you yourself want to have nuclear weapons, as your leaders say. What is the US profitable there7 For Russia to say its weighty word? Yes, they have already bitten off all their nails with anger. Stop treating people on this forum with horror stories about bloc Ukraine. Ukraine cannot decide for itself what it should be, but the Russians are to blame. You are Natsik, and we are to blame, the oligarchs are robbing and leading you, again the Russians are to blame, why did you go to Chechnya to fight? This is not your state? so the guys that you brewed there will be enough for you for a long time, until you, like Germany, are given a snot at the time. We are not doing well with this, but I think your experience will open many eyes
    15. aleks 62
      aleks 62 5 March 2014 11: 48
      +1
      Respected!!!! And what would the United States do if a handful of gopniks tried (I say not seized) to block, for example, the Capitol or the White House ?????
    16. ultra
      ultra 5 March 2014 11: 55
      +1
      Quote: makarov
      This has already happened once, the entry of troops into Afghanistan.

      Well, and in what areas of Ukraine, in addition to Crimea, have we introduced troops? Both Crimea and Afghanistan are not links of the same chain, the population is hostile there, but in the Crimea!
  12. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 5 March 2014 08: 24
    +9
    from the Don.
    Actually, adequate, thinking people are gathering here! Nobody is imposing their opinions here! It would be better to post this article on other sites. In VK, for example. And about asking for forgiveness! For what? For the truth that we speak?
  13. bugaev2005
    bugaev2005 5 March 2014 08: 25
    +18
    Americans call such people as the author of the article useful idiots!
    1. made13
      made13 5 March 2014 12: 20
      +1
      Not idiots, but agents of influence who confuse the values ​​of the USSR and the modern capitalist world and mislead readers. Such Goebbels embryos live in the comfort of Moscow or St. Petersburg and talk in the kitchens about the welfare of other people. Something not one such peacekeeper stood between the golden eagle and the Maidanut with Molotov cocktails. And if he got up, then immediately stopped his ridiculous bleating. Everything - capitalism - thanks to America and Europe for teaching us meanness and backstabs!
      Let's support the American Indians in their struggle for independence! Give Maidan to Washington!
      1. Svetlana
        Svetlana 5 March 2014 14: 09
        0
        They destroyed their native inhabitants in the bud, now they want to get to us! What kind of x..r..e..n occupation of Ukraine by Russia can be, if it is our blood land and our native people! Well, you yourself, Ukrainians, just think - who is the occupier and who is your brother? Is NATO your brother and Russia the enemy? Was not the opposite of centuries? Why is it that now, suddenly, America suddenly needed to be friends with the Slavic people? Rescuers are bad. Whose interests are they going to protect? The interests of the Ukrainian people? Isn’t it funny for you?
  14. Soldier
    Soldier 5 March 2014 08: 25
    +7
    So no one humiliates the BROTHERS-UKRAINTS. And many of us understand that Yanukovych is an analogue of ours, Yeltsin and got everyone. BUT ... we are all against the fascist scum. We also want to be friends, but not with Bandera! !! And the officer with the Ukrainian flag, what oath is loyal? State of Ukraine? So be it, but you don’t have a government now, and in fact there is no LEGITIMATE supreme commander-in-chief, but do you need to carry out the orders of the Nazi scum, brothers?
  15. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 5 March 2014 08: 25
    +16
    Yes, none of the members of the forum is not particularly hungry. Many were hurt that they came with a red flag, that all this was like a farce with a large concentration of television people at the right time and place. And why are the kids? And they knew that the Russians would not shoot unarmed! And the forum users mostly poured their sarcasm on the Maidan. Something like this.
  16. Hellriker
    Hellriker 5 March 2014 08: 26
    +5
    Well, if you look like that, then fascist Germany can be justified. There, too, people fought, who had a homeland and duty. With this mood, go to the Maidan, and even better get drunk.
  17. parus2nik
    parus2nik 5 March 2014 08: 26
    +8
    But I have not the slightest doubt that all this muddy foam will subside, melt without a trace - a ruthless time will not leave even the slightest memory of it. We will remain - Russians and Ukrainians.
    Cloudy foam, say ... This is what they said about the Nazis in Germany, good European uncles ... in due time ... I wanted to be kind, soft, human ... Cloudy foam, this is not foam .. it's not a chopped wood ..With this forest, my grandfathers fought, my grandmother’s brothers .. from seven, one from the front returned .. Maternal grandfather, defense participant of Sevastopol, reconnaissance platoon commander .. Died from an enemy bomb .. the ship Armenia ..
    1. Svetlana
      Svetlana 5 March 2014 14: 19
      +1
      Quote: parus2nik
      Turbid foam, say ... This is what they said about the Nazis in Germany, good European uncles ... in due time ..

      Exactly! Europe surrendered to Hitler almost without fighting, everyone also thought it was cloudy foam, and we were taking it out for everyone! And now, it turns out, we are also occupiers! Have arrived! On many sites I read how Ukrainians see their salvation in NATO troops, completely o.kh.e.r.l. and where is your Slavic memory? Someone even wrote: "Thank you Obama, God bless him!" Ugh!!! Yes, you still bring bacon to this monkey and bread and salt. And then you will enter the next American state under the striped flag, remember the fate of the Indians when you find yourself on the reservation.
  18. polly
    polly 5 March 2014 08: 27
    +6
    There is no need to compare the one who is now ready to defend the Kiev "power" with the defenders of the Brest Fortress! They defended it from the Nazis ...
  19. Igarr
    Igarr 5 March 2014 08: 28
    +7
    I don’t know at what forums Uncle Seryozha gets to write such a thing.
    Voice of reason ..... the cries of the fooled ...
    .... And what if Uncle Seryozha moves on and addresses the Sermon on the Mount with SashkoBiloy, Yarosh, Tyagnibok?
    He will offer them to substitute the right cheek, after the left buttock ...
    Minus article.
    This is not the voice of reason ..... this is pretense.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 5 March 2014 08: 43
      0
      Quote: Igarr
      I don’t know at what forums Uncle Seryozha gets to write such a thing.

      At VO, Igor, at VO. recourse
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 5 March 2014 09: 14
        +5
        Why is nonsense written?
        ...
        We are persecuting Ukrainians .... my wife is Ukrainian. I drive her sometimes. Usually at night.
        But she does not complain.
        ...
        Our writer Tolstoy is supposedly loved abroad. For "non-resistance to evil by violence." But, they do not want to follow it. In general, I treat him like a blessed one.
        Abroad, allegedly addicted to Dostoevsky. May be. For the fractured psyche of gays, lesbos, pedos, and the rest ... the nonsense of Dostoevsky, you see, lies in a line.
        So, on the other hand, Dostoevsky himself began with the Petrashevists, the most violent demons.
        .
        Ukrainians are not the ones to deal with as a nation.
        But in Russia.
        The attacks of the nutty must be stopped in the bud. And psychos are most afraid of violence, orderlies. The brother-doctor talked about his practice.
        Who reacts to the actions of Russia as the best indicator of health. Mental.
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  21. Clegg
    Clegg 5 March 2014 08: 29
    -6
    I absolutely agree, not only with regard to Ukrainians, in general to all. I have repeatedly come across this on this resource. I just didn’t call anyone who called me insults to my personal address, but when they insult my people and my country, it’s a shame.
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 5 March 2014 10: 23
      +2
      Quote: Clegg
      Who just did not call me names, insults to the personal address I miss, but when they insult my people and my country it is insulting.

      I agree with you. I was also rude and hung up labels. Mostly, those who are recently on this site are rude. I personally, as a rule, put the minuses without explaining the reasons as such, even if I share their views. The gentlemen-comrade moderators have something to work on.
      I put you a plus.
      PSYou, of course, have seen the accusations of Russians and Russia even on this site? Try to be objective.
      PS1.Example in the article is not entirely correct. It smacks of provocation. It is not entirely about duty and honor.
  22. KLIM
    KLIM 5 March 2014 08: 38
    +4
    “The comments that I have to read on the Web about Ukraine and Ukrainians terrify me. Russia, have you really gone crazy? Is the stream of rudeness, arrogance and cave imperialism what your once great Soul has shrunk into? trying to divide, you say? Yes, they are. And judging by what we write, judging by how we react to the situation, those who are trying to divide us are doing very well. "
    Again, everything is one-sided. Read the comments about Russia and the Russians from the maydanutyh. Payment of such as "Uncle Seryozha" continues. Ukraine will become a strong state only when it gets rid of such "patriots" of its own.
  23. 528Obrp
    528Obrp 5 March 2014 08: 42
    +7
    Author! Do not you really see that there is an information war? And this war is tougher than the real one, much tougher. Much. If in the present there can still be a place for mercy, since you see firsthand the suffering of the victim, then in the ideological - you do not see the enemy for frequent. The task of ideological war is to morally suppress the enemy. The basis is the moral conviction of his innocence.
    The time for universal fraternity is over. At stake is the fate of Russia. There is a global redivision of the world, and if simpler - markets and cheap labor. The Western world ate itself and got into a series of crises: political, military, economic and financial. Hence the succession of color revolutions, the division of third world countries. And now the turn of Ukraine has come and ours may come. Ukraine is the limit beyond which all means are good. Up to direct clashes with NATO countries. They won’t do anything to us. Fearfully. These countries are too pampered to shed their blood on their land. And so as not to get to a real war, I’ll repeat either they will crush us morally or we will them. There is no third. You, the Author, seem to have been crushed.
  24. alicante11
    alicante11 5 March 2014 08: 42
    +4
    You are either stupid or a troll author. WHERE do you see derogatory comments and articles about Ukrainians? On the contrary, everyone wants to help them. And the malicious comments are against the banderni and the fascists, against the "scum" in your words.
    According to your allegory, it is you who are standing over a passer-by who has fallen under the car and say, "Oh, nothing, all this will pass, the blood scum on your lips will subside." And we need to help, which is what Russia is doing.
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 5 March 2014 09: 02
      +11
      Good morning everybody hi

      All of us dear colleagues are on the VO forum. The forum was created to communicate, exchange opinions, news, share impressions. But there is no one who admits attacks, if only attacks, although clearly crossing the line of what is permitted, namely, passing to insults. You can relate to the author in different ways, I personally agree on something and not on something, but this is my personal judgment, however, it is not only mine, each of us has it. The VO forum administration specially created conditions for evaluating articles, notes or comments. I noticed that individual visitors, in order to win the sympathy of the members of the forum, are clearly trying, and deliberately to pry, or unsubscribe "more formidable", or they are clearly going over to insults. I want to say bluntly that such grief causes only antipathies to visitors. that in the rules of the VO, there is a specific and amazing line,respect other people's work, which means, I think there is no need for decryption. Once again, I insist on compliance with the rules of VO.
      Regards Apollo.
      1. Uncle Serozha
        5 March 2014 09: 37
        0
        Quote: Apollon
        some visitors, in order to win the sympathy of the members of the forum, are clearly trying, and deliberately to pry, or "more formidable" to unsubscribe or are clearly turning to insults.

        Collection of pluses, no more. While reading this, I only smile, because to answer is to fall to the same level. I will not decline.
        In real life, few aggressive youngsters risk telling me something like that in person - my dimensions do not contribute to this. wink
        1. Ivan.
          Ivan. 5 March 2014 09: 56
          +5
          Quote: Uncle Seryozha
          Collection of pluses, no more. While reading this, I only smile, because to answer is to fall to the same level. I will not decline.
          In real life, few aggressive youngsters risk telling me something like that in person - my dimensions do not contribute to this.

          No need to stoop to us, we are poor ... but no, you still want to "raise" us to your "level"! There is a Russian proverb "go through the forest" and without you enough xxxxxxxx want to instill in us a sense of guilt and impose their "understanding".
        2. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 5 March 2014 10: 07
          +4
          Quote: Uncle Seryozha
          While reading this, I only smile, because to answer is to fall to the same level. I will not decline.

          I didn’t minus your article, didn’t plus it, I understand your motive, but in this situation it’s not acceptable. It’s the same as asking for forgiveness from a neighbor for stepping on his foot after he set fire to my house on purpose. It seems to me that for starters, one of the Ukrainian forum users should apologize for the monuments of Bandera, for the actual ban on the Russian language in many regions of Ukraine, the constant anti-Russian state rhetoric, assaults on the Black Sea Fleet, marches of the Socialist-Revolutionaries and much more. Forgiveness must be mutual. Rudeness does not paint anyone, it is really very easy to be brave and insult strangers on the forum, but it seems to me too bold to assume the role of the mouthpiece of the whole people, especially when many clearly do not support your point of view. hi
        3. IRBIS
          IRBIS 5 March 2014 11: 38
          +2
          Quote: Uncle Seryozha
          I'm just reading this while smiling

          All those living in the South-East will "smile" when the current government comes to them in full from Kiev. When they will begin to "neatly" squeeze out "real" Ukrainians from society. When they and their children are forbidden to speak the language of their ancestors. When, after association with the EU, unemployment will come to their homes, and with it poverty. Then everyone will accuse (once again) Russia of inaction.
          Do you think that Russia is obliged to simply feed the "independent" Ukraine for free in anticipation of gratitude? That "brotherly" Ukraine, which has repeatedly deceived and betrayed? The people who cannot (or do not want) to curb the gangs of rabid nationalists and who sold our common memory and our centuries-old history for the promise of a Schengen visa and American cookies?
        4. ultra
          ultra 5 March 2014 12: 01
          0
          Dear Uncle Seryozha, I partially agree with what you wrote, but the information war is such a thing, and in comparison with what is published and shown in the Ukrainian media, ours are a standard of impartiality! hi
      2. Ivan.
        Ivan. 5 March 2014 10: 23
        +3
        Quote: Apollon
        respect other people's labor, which means, I believe there is no need for decryption. Once again, I insist on compliance with the rules of VO.

        Labor can be destructive as well as positive, as I never recognize the “labor” of parasites under the chase of “realtors” and many other “professions” as labor, and I also don’t recognize it as labor to shame us “Uncle Seryozha”.
        It’s necessary to say this
        in two words: "forgive us"

        "Forgive us tyagniboks and yaroshi, forgive us the right sector" you can vomit, let's also chant "who does not jump that mos-kal".
        There are also sane with zhevto-blakitnym ask about humiliation of them, if you are not afraid of course. Please accept my deepest disrespect for "Uncle Seryozha"!
        1. Luzhichanin
          Luzhichanin 5 March 2014 13: 47
          +1
          Quote: Ivan.
          I never recognize the "labor" of parasites under the chase of "realtors" and many other "professions" as labor, nor do I recognize the work of shaming us "Uncle Seryozha"

          it is not labor, it is rather slavery, work. you plus
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      3. alicante11
        alicante11 6 March 2014 04: 37
        0
        Concluding my thought, I want to note that in the rules of VO there is a concrete and amazing line, respect the work of others, which means, I think there is no need for decryption. Once again, I insist on compliance with the rules of VO.


        I agree that it is necessary to respect someone else's work. And usually I comment quite restrainedly, even when not quite restrained, to say the least, comment on my articles. But, excuse me, in this case it is not an "opinion" that is being expressed, but accusations of the Russian-speaking Internet community that it does not do at all. The charge, incl. and me personally, as a person who belongs to this community. What is this "work" aimed at? For us to repent before the banderney? Before the Nazis? Or before the "opposition", which in the UN insults the memory of our ancestors? I repeat, no one in Russia will say a bad word about the Ukrainians. And if he does, he will receive it from the rest of the Russian audience. What are the advantages here.
        So my question or assumption is quite pertinent and legitimate. And in no case can they be offensive to the person who wrote this "work".
  25. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 5 March 2014 08: 47
    +4
    And how much did these officers receive to carry out Western teleoperators to the post, also under the red flag? It can be seen with the naked eye that this is a staging, not yet rehearsed! Who is America yelling with us? Ukrainian patriot officer? Apparently the time of declarations of love or dislike, has passed, it's time to act. Eh Seryozha, what have you read?
  26. archivist
    archivist 5 March 2014 08: 48
    +3
    Apologize!? Before whom and for what? For what we want to protect our fellow citizens in Ukraine? For what we want to protect our country from the brown plague and lawlessness that we see in Kiev? Ukraine has been playing in the geopolitical space for hundreds of years. Everyone knows that the West spends colossal funds to drive a wedge between our Slavic peoples. They are not interested in the future of the people of Ukraine. Their main task is to weaken Russia, split into small "satellite states" and pump out natural resources to satisfy their needs.
    The article is either ordered, or this "uncle" is in the same boat with Obama and his henchmen. Strong Russia has never been needed by anyone except its people!
    1. Apollo
      Apollo 5 March 2014 09: 14
      0
      Quote: archivist
      Article either custom,

      Can you prove it ?!
      Quote: archivist
      either this "uncle" in the same boat with Obama and his minions.

      Please provide facts.
      The author has a cry of soul, that’s what motivated him.
      And the last, visitor you personally mentioned, I have known for a long time, but you only from February 28 on 2014.
  27. riding
    riding 5 March 2014 08: 54
    +6
    Plus, the author for his persistent aversion to insults against the peoples, who were only one and a half years ago. This is a Soviet upbringing, and neither the author nor anyone else should be ostracized for this.
    We only live in a different time, and the effectiveness of zombie technologies is a sign of this time.
    There, in Kiev, there are simple, kind, honest Ukrainians who now, without looking back, take the side of the new authorities, insult their yesterday’s friends, the line of separation is even between relatives. There are also a handful of revolutionary romantics in Kiev who sincerely believe that they are now building a beautiful state on blood and injustice, but neither the Protestant pastor Turchinsky) nor the Scientology fan (Yatsenyuk) have romantic snot. They know what they want. But do they know that they are very small, because even a drop of charisma is needed to hold on to power in such a difficult time.
    1. Ivan.
      Ivan. 5 March 2014 11: 30
      +2
      Foolish filter cure.
      1. Luzhichanin
        Luzhichanin 5 March 2014 13: 49
        0
        Quote: Ivan.
        Foolish filter cure.

        it's okay, the Russian peasant has a formidable weapon - ingenuity. it's good that you have it wink
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      3. riding
        riding 5 March 2014 14: 53
        0
        What a fervor. The author sincerely expressed what worries him. After all, the gap between the parts of Ukraine is growing, it is not easy to accept. People in Kiev are really different now. There are those who are genuinely perplexed about our brainwashed. They will understand that they were fooled, but not now. Critical abilities sharply decreased, they don’t see who claimed the rights to power, they don’t see how they are surrendering the country.
  28. balamut
    balamut 5 March 2014 08: 57
    +4
    Why should I apologize ???
    If the author has a guilt complex, then he can ask anyone for forgiveness.
    Did Russia not support Ukraine all these years ??? Or should we give the same gas for free ???
  29. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    Andrey Ulyanovsky 5 March 2014 08: 57
    +14
    Many letters, author. The agitation should be as short as a shot "Heroiam Sawan!"
    A couple of nails in your smelly libel from your tube



    +



    PS Translate into dill and Anglo - cookies are provided to you, uncle.
    1. Neophyte
      Neophyte 5 March 2014 10: 02
      0
      Andrey! Your trailer is just sparkle!
      We need to go to YT and check in. Our enemies are Russia-shish!
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    3. Des10
      Des10 5 March 2014 12: 23
      0
      Yes, the first is talented.
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  31. ZIV
    ZIV 5 March 2014 09: 05
    +4
    Author Uncle Seryozha. And you did not try to read what ukronatsiki write in the address of Russia, our Government and the Russian people? Moreover, it began much earlier than the senators rendered their verdict.
  32. nemec55
    nemec55 5 March 2014 09: 05
    +3
    “A friend is in trouble” is not what I said. Trouble happened with Ukraine

    No, misfortune did not happen with Ukraine. UKRAINE IS TROUBLE. And the author also knows that he is wrong and confirms this himself.
    I am absolutely convinced that this article, to put it mildly, will not meet an enthusiastic reception

    When Ukraine erected monuments to Bender and clapped the Nazis where you were the author ??? What kind of crucifixion are you here for? UKRAINE should not exist as a state, it should be an area and whose country it all depends on politicians and military. I am sure that this is a city of Russians, it is a primordially Russian land. And Ukrainians are partly Russian only with brainwashed those Ukrainians who are more Poles or sprats.
  33. Svetlana
    Svetlana 5 March 2014 09: 06
    +1
    Personally, I have nothing to apologize for! I, like most Russians, while the Olympiad was going on and the whole first week after it, just waited for our president to decide to send troops to Ukraine to stop this wild Nazi mess, to help our brothers, our relatives, our compatriots, Ukrainians. When it became known about Putin’s decision to finally send troops, we all rejoiced! In Ukraine, a split is possible. But this split will save many lives and destinies of people. And it’s better to sacrifice part of the country than give it all to the fascists!
  34. kind
    kind 5 March 2014 09: 09
    +2
    Normal people subscribe in their own names, and here is some uncle Seryozha. It seems that one of the Maidan speaks on our behalf, and after a good portion of alcohol or drugs.
    Those comments that I have to read on the Web about Ukraine and Ukrainians terrify me. Russia, are you really crazy? Is the flood of rudeness, arrogance, and cave imperialism really something that your once great Soul cringed into?

    What sites does he sit on?
    They are trying to divide us, you say? Yes, they are trying. And judging by what we write, judging by how we react to the situation, those who are trying to separate us have a very good result.

    That is, he is for separation?
    And what does he propose to substitute a second cheek? A sort of pacifist -.......deleted by moderator Apollo.
    Stop uncle Seryozha to thump, otherwise you’ll agree that Antarctic scumbag penguins will conquer us.
  35. bomg.77
    bomg.77 5 March 2014 09: 15
    +3
    Yes, they do not have our oil. Yes, their army suffers from a lack of funding, old materiel and much more. Actually, their army is exactly what ours would be if we did not have an oil and gas “blessing”. But I, nevertheless, cannot but respect her, seeing how her servicemen do their duty. But I can’t respect my compatriots who commented on this video. I am convinced that most of those who wrote stupid, offensive and gloating comments, unlike an officer, would have instantly escaped at the first sounds of shooting.
    We laugh that the pearl of the USSR and the richest republic after Russia, has brought itself to impoverishment, allowing itself to rule thieves or fascists, for sliding into an amorphous state, for condoning Russophobia, for participating in all conflicts against Russia, and I don’t I saw no rally against this action. You blame the Russians for making fun and laughing that the state has 50mln people, 100 thousand people and the poor! The whole industry was stolen, agriculture, livestock, when you have the most fertile land and a good climate. And your so-called political elite causes only laughter.
    Regarding this video, this is a production, like many other materials, to raise the morale of the Independent hamsters
  36. Leisure
    Leisure 5 March 2014 09: 20
    +1
    Forgive me for being "Moskal", so what?
  37. rereture
    rereture 5 March 2014 09: 21
    +5
    I did not live in the USSR, I was born in the Russian Federation. As long as I live, I hear so much slop in the address of my country, the so-called "Brothers" Ukrainians are not brothers at all, they are hangers-on who remember "brothers" only when it suits them. As the riots began in Kiev, on various resources, so much tree was poured on our country, on us Russian people, on citizens of other nationalities.
    These are the "brothers" Ukrainians shouting: "m. S.k.a. Or Putin's slaves", "Russians - quilted jackets" and in the same spirit.

    Do I have to apologize for not turning my second cheek?

    There is a good saying:

    "Friendship is friendship, but service is service."

    National interests should be above any mythical "brotherhood".
  38. 2sila
    2sila 5 March 2014 09: 27
    +1
    "Uncle Seryozha" go to ..... speak and ask for forgiveness only for yourself!
    Only by calling the article "Forgive ME", you will be subjectively objective.
  39. Yuri Sev Caucasus
    Yuri Sev Caucasus 5 March 2014 09: 28
    0
    Uncle and you are not a democrat for an hour ???
  40. Demo
    Demo 5 March 2014 09: 29
    +1
    who doesn’t jump that mo .... eh .. and who jumps that dib !!!
  41. Navy7981
    Navy7981 5 March 2014 09: 31
    +1
    And just that! Having defeated the corrupt government, it was necessary to make a statement that the official languages ​​from now on are considered Ukrainian and Russian acting throughout Ukraine. Languages ​​of other peoples inhabiting Ukraine and having a certain number acquire the status of regional. Accordingly, training in schools should take place in one of the state languages ​​with in-depth study of the second, and the state is also obliged to provide special conditions for the study and preservation of regional languages. On the territories traditionally populated by large ethnic groups, the customs and traditions of those groups habitual with unconditional observance of the Constitution and laws of the state written and adopted by representatives of all peoples inhabiting Ukraine are preserved. From this moment, the propaganda of nationalism and the superiority of one ethnic group over another is punished by the strength and power of the state, as activities leading to the destruction of your still young state. But this is not possible, because there are only two opinions - yours and wrong. Alas. Yes, and the thing is clear not only in languages, but simply nothing can be built by relying on and cultivating the hatred of one towards the other. Who interfered in defending their own, be friendly to all citizens of their country, friendly to neighbors.

    But the world is involved in money, and when a group of military men, at someone's instigation, "goes to machine guns", hiding behind a banner that is no longer theirs (it is good that they were not advised to hide behind women and children, however, they would most likely stick such an advisor in the face ). It's just that when you do something on your own, at the behest of a real DUTY, you will go to the end, and I have no doubt that they would go. They just do not have FAITH in their state. But you know what a shame! When one of the characters in this video turns around and speaks the same language - Oleg Olegovich ... that's what's scary.
  42. Good cat
    Good cat 5 March 2014 09: 40
    +1
    There is nothing for us to apologize for, we are all for Ukrainians, but not for Bandera
  43. awg75
    awg75 5 March 2014 09: 43
    0
    because of such liberalists as the author, a handful of Nazis can dictate the conditions of the whole country. be kinder, more tolerant, love your neighbor, even if he screams on your head .... rag
  44. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 5 March 2014 09: 57
    +3
    pig’s gon then read what he wrote? Is he proud of the drunken crowd in uniform? it we destroyed the economy more precisely plundered? Putin brought the Nazis to the Maidan? do our soldiers walk on Khreshchatyk? no paranoia, is it that we should stop being proud of our country’s victories?
  45. Wedmak
    Wedmak 5 March 2014 10: 08
    +12
    I was also born and raised in the USSR. And he traveled to Ukraine with relatives, rested in the resorts of Truskavets. Are you ashamed to speak of Russian comments on Ukraine? Do you see a man as an officer?
    And I'm not ashamed. How long can you repent and be ashamed? Where is the pride of the people, who for centuries beat their enemies on their own and foreign lands? Ukraine wanted independence, it got it. And the fact that in 22 years, a country with a huge backlog inherited from the USSR, with luxurious resorts, access to the sea, could not create a prosperous state is not Russia to blame. You didn’t find “your Putin”, you didn’t find a person who cares for his country and works for the good of the country ... should Russia again be ashamed?
    The military of Ukraine, why did you sit behind your fences, seeing how outright fascists come to power in Kiev? Was there no general / colonel / major who dared to take responsibility and introduce a couple of brigades to Kiev? To scatter this riffraff in the basements and strangle there? No, you were waiting for the Russian military to start operating. That means that they correctly blocked you at the places of deployment, so as not to interfere, since there was not enough courage to intervene. Did you see that Yanukovych was a rag, saw him dancing to the tune of the Maydans, saw where everything was going and did not intervene? Why???? Afraid of blood? But she spilled anyway.
    Comments, only a reflection of the situation. We are tired of being ashamed and repenting. Tired of making excuses for their decisions and actions. This is normal. The Russians felt not only a nation, but also a nation. We felt their strength, their truth. Those who want to follow us along the way are coming. And we are glad to travel companions. For those who wanted to sit on two chairs, their backs broke.
    We are sad for the brotherly people. But the Ukrainians themselves chose how to live and with whom to be friends. Maybe it’s cruel to say so - get it, sign it. Those who took the first step to return to a peaceful and calm life and asked for help received this help. I wish the rest to be cooked in my own stupidity and hypocrisy.
    1. Luzhichanin
      Luzhichanin 5 March 2014 14: 03
      0
      Plus, but don’t write this way:
      Quote: Wedmak
      Russians felt not only a nation, but also a nation

      Only the people, there are no nations! The people - the word is Russian, the nation - the word is invented, it is not in Russian!
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 5 March 2014 14: 48
        0
        It is not a matter of the Russian word people and a non-Russian nation. A nation is a more general and later concept. If a nation is a community of people with a common language, culture, customs, etc., then a nation is already a historical community, consisting of political, economic ties, languages, and cultural characteristics. The people can be uniform in composition, like the Scots, Greeks, Vali, Ukrainians, Russians. A nation may be heterogeneous - Americans are an example of this.
  46. olviko
    olviko 5 March 2014 10: 19
    +5
    "I see how a Ukrainian officer at the head of a column of his subordinates with the state flag of Ukraine is going to return under his control the runways of the airfield entrusted to him, seized by armed people, goes unarmed, without fear of warning shots, then I first of all see a Man (just like that, with a large letters), true to his Oath. I see that he is a warrior and I cannot but pay tribute to his courage and loyalty to duty. This is what prompted the commander of the "Varyag" to leave the port to meet the entire Japanese squadron. This is what forced the garrison The Brest Fortress continues to defend itself despite the complete hopelessness of its position. This is what allowed our grandfathers - his and mine - fighting in a common formation to defend their, then still common homeland and defeat any enemy. "

    Man, who did you compare with whom? This means your officer with the flag is the Brest Fortress, and the fascist military men who took control of the airfield who smashed the Brest Fortress. To understand who you yourself are enough to read this nonsense. And you better not touch our glorious grandfathers, we have no common order with you.
  47. navodchik
    navodchik 5 March 2014 10: 22
    +2
    Good day to all.

    The call for prudence is very correct. But we only hear it. The Ukrainians, on the other hand, are facing the huge ideological machine of the West, which has successfully brainwashed them. Without opposing this machine with any protest, advocating for the support of the "Ukrainian" army, we ourselves become victims of this machine. Guys, let me honestly remind you that in 1993, when taking the Ukrainian oath, a military man answered a simple question asked to him: "Are you going to fight Russia?" These are the people who ended up in the "independent" army. Therefore, I ask you to create illusions about brotherhood, to a certain extent. Ukraine is a prisoner of the West, but its guards have both teeth and patrons. Sincerely.
  48. Flinky
    Flinky 5 March 2014 10: 22
    +2
    Uncle Seryozha, how much did you pay for this article? Just honestly?
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  50. Stinger
    Stinger 5 March 2014 10: 25
    +1
    I agree only that it is unacceptable to humiliate the interlocutors for their opinions. It is always easy to insult, and everyone can do it, especially when there are no arguments, but it is much more difficult to convince, and this requires intelligence and arguments. And there’s nothing to apologize for. And Ukrainians have nothing to do with it. On any network, you can read everything about Russians, Ukrainians, and everyone who comes to hand. Everyone writes to the extent of their depravity.