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There is no reliable Russian system of aerospace defense

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There is no reliable Russian system of aerospace defense



At the strategic level, unified leadership and joint responsibility for the organization and conduct of armed struggle against the forces and means of an aerospace attack of the enemy are not defined.

The readers of the newspaper “VPC” are invited to present a report by State Duma deputy, member of the State Duma Committee on Defense Alexander Tarnaev at the general meeting of 28 Council members February 2014 of the year “Results and Prospects for the Activities of NP VES VKO in Creating Aerospace Defense of the Russian Federation”.

For more than two years, the Committee on Defense, headed by Admiral Vladimir Komoyedov, has been analyzing the state of and prospects for improving the country's defense capability. We paid very close attention to the most acute problems of the Armed Forces and the defense industry complex. Committee meetings were held, round tables and parliamentary hearings were held, at which these problems were thoroughly discussed. They were attended not only by deputies, but also by many former and current leaders of the arms and arms of the Armed Forces of the USSR and Russia, well-known military experts.

Most of the participants in the discussions stated that the most devastating blow to the Armed Forces was dealt not with the American “Stealth” and “Tomahawk”, but with reforms of their own government. Our Armed Forces are now virtually on the verge of collapse. This is the result of many mindless reforms undertaken over the past 20 years.

There is no reliable Russian system of aerospace defense

Russia's defenses rest solely on nuclear deterrence forces, whose presence so far saves the country from repeating the fate of Yugoslavia, Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya. But strategic missile forces included in the strategic nuclear forces have also been reduced and poorly covered from air strikes, virtually defenseless against an attack from space. Serviceability park long-range strategic aviation is unacceptably low. Another component of the nuclear triad - the submarine fleet is also in a deplorable state. In the North navy Five to six nuclear submarines remain operational.

And all this against the background of the fact that the situation in the world is heating up and becoming explosive. There are more signs that the next systemic crisis of world imperialism is approaching its military phase. The United States and its allies are intensively developing new types of weapons of the fifth and sixth technological level. These include anti-missile systems and hypersonic offensive weapon. The number of missiles and ammunition produced exceeded all peacetime norms. By 2020, the United States will have over 100 thousands of cruise missiles. Recently, the US Navy launched the first drone from the submarine.

The content of the armed struggle has radically changed. The center of gravity and the main efforts are transferred to aerospace. The leading nations of the world rely on the conquest of supremacy in air and space by conducting massive aerospace operations at the very beginning of the war, striking strategic and vital targets throughout the country. Military operations in aerospace are already gaining global momentum. Their successful conduct becomes the basis for success in the armed struggle on land and at sea. The United States easily conquers countries that are unable to repel their aerospace attack.

In the United States, the provisions of the concept of instant global strike and global missile defense are implemented, which envisage the destruction of enemy facilities and troops practically in any part of the globe within one hour and thus guaranteeing to prevent unacceptable damage from its retaliatory strike.

The experience of modern armed conflicts, including those associated with the so-called color revolutions in North Africa and the Middle East, and now in Ukraine, shows that a completely prosperous state in a matter of months and even days can turn into an arena of fierce armed struggle, become a victim foreign military intervention, plunge into the abyss of chaos, civil war and humanitarian catastrophe.

The military dangers and threats to Russia from the United States and NATO have become a reality. Russian-American friendship and partnership, in the opinion of many experts, is a temporary phenomenon. Policy arrangements are respected as long as they benefit the strong side. There is no other such country in the world with a potential that ensures guaranteed destruction of the United States, except Russia. Therefore, the Americans are preparing to fight precisely against us. In the relevant documents they have clearly written: we are for them the enemy No. 1, and not partners, friends or comrades.

From the time of the Soviet Union we had a school for the creation of an air defense system, and then an aerospace defense, moreover, a school with no analogue in the world. Our air defense system was the best, and this was proved by the Great Patriotic War. Moscow almost did not suffer. The industrial centers of the USSR, which produced weapons and military equipment, did not suffer significant damage from enemy air raids. This was confirmed by the Vietnam War, which was actually won by our anti-aircraft missile forces and air defense aircraft, shooting down about eight thousand American planes and helicopters, thereby forcing the United States to leave this country.

At one time, Marshal of the Soviet Union, Georgi Zhukov, wrote: "A grief awaits a country that is unable to repel an air strike."

In post-Soviet Russia, in order to understand this wise saying of a military genius, it took almost to zero to ruin its air defense, which in the 80-s had actually been aerospace. And only then, after Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya, our rulers began to think about who will be next. Isn't it Russia?

Now, waking up from the dreams of "democracy" in the American way, the Russian authorities are finally beginning to understand that Russia has only two allies - its Armed Forces and the defense-industrial complex.

It has come to the country's leaders that in the current situation, a unified system of aerospace defense is needed, which can reliably protect nuclear deterrence forces, other key strategic facilities and Russia as a whole from the attack of modern air and space means of a potential enemy.

From the very beginning of the current State Duma’s work, the State Duma Committee on Defense and the Communist Party faction, which I represent, have paid increased attention to the organization and development of the country's aerospace defense. Moreover, the current Armed Forces armies were created at the same time.

But it is not enough to create troops, we must also create a defense. How are things going with this? Are the EKR Troops capable of effectively protecting Russia's strategic facilities from modern means of aerospace attack, do they have the necessary weapons, military equipment and personnel for this? The answer to these questions is one: there is no reliable Russian ASD system.

At the strategic level, there is no unified leadership and joint responsibility for organizing and conducting armed struggle against the forces and means of the enemy’s aerospace attack over the entire territory of Russia.

The former once unified air defense system of the country was divided into five independent parts - four air defense systems of military districts and the formation of the Aerospace Defense Forces. There is practically no centralized command of the troops (forces) of the air defense and the air defense of Kazakhstan.

The creation of the structure of the East Kazakhstani Army and its equipment with new types of weapons and military equipment are slow and do not correspond to the scale of the possible threat to the country. The computing equipment of the aerospace defense, which is still not unified, has different software and algorithmic support for the communication and data transfer system.

Another very important issue is about the elemental base of electronic equipment, which is part of the radar stations and anti-aircraft missile systems. According to the available information, the share of foreign components in military equipment of the aerospace defense reaches almost 80 percent. In combat conditions, equipment assembled on someone else’s element base will either refuse or be used in the interests of the enemy.

In an unenviable position, fighter aircraft of air defense, equipped mainly with the famous MiG-31 interceptors, proved to be. These aircraft were "unnecessary" to the Air Force. They began to virtually eliminate. More than five hundred MiGs remained in service with over five hundred vehicles in the army.

Last April, we held parliamentary hearings in the State Duma on this topic, which showed:

1. The presence of more than seven hundred engines for the MiG-31, which, after reconditioning, can be installed on combat aircraft.

2. The presence of production facilities and technological infrastructure at the Nizhny Novgorod plant "Falcon", previously produced the MiG-31, and is currently upgrading these aircraft in the MiG-31BM.

3. The almost unanimous opinion of most experts and specialists on the unmatched nature of this vehicle, especially in its modified versions of the MiG-31M and MiG-31D. They can become the main striking force of the aerospace defense capable of winning air superiority.

Also, combat aircraft complexes in conjunction with tanker aircraft, radar remote observation complexes would allow:

solve the problem of aerospace defense in the northern and eastern strategic aerospace directions, without creating ground defense infrastructure and groups of armies of the aerospace defense;
to form the front line of the air defense-missile defense system in threatened directions up to the launch line for air-launched and sea-based cruise missiles, that is, for 3 – 3,5, thousands of kilometers from the Russian state border;
to cover long-range and sea-based missile-carrying aircraft from enemy fighter actions in remote areas and their own groups of ships (including submarines) from air strikes when deployed in the distant ocean and sea zones.


At the parliamentary hearings, it was recommended to the government to create a working group to study all issues related to the MiG-31. I want to inform you pleasant news. Thanks to our joint efforts with you, the leadership of the country made a decision to return to service through the repair of MiG-31 interceptor fighters. We are talking about hundreds of cars. I am doubly pleased, as I am a deputy from the Nizhny Novgorod region, on the territory of which the Sokol plant is located.

So, we have, as they say, in the dry residue the following:

The situation in the world is increasingly heating up, Russia's military threats are increasing;
the aerospace frontiers of the country are a “leaky sieve”;
effectively cover them now and in the near future there is nothing.


And how, under these conditions, will Russia be protected from aerospace aggression, the probability of which is quite real?

In order to obtain and analyze information, objectively assessing the existing difficulties and ways to solve them, we held a round table and an outdoor meeting of the Committee on Defense during the autumn session of the State Duma 2013, as well as closed 6 parliamentary hearings on November 12, 2013, on the topic “On ways and problems improving the combat capabilities of the Aerospace Defense Forces ".

They were attended by deputies of the State Duma, representatives of the Military-Industrial Commission at the Government of the Russian Federation, the Security Council of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Defense, other state bodies and research organizations, as well as enterprises of the military-industrial complex.

I express my great appreciation to our hero of the day - the Independent Expert Council of the East Kazakhstan region, its leaders Igor Ashurbeyli, Boris Cheltsov and other comrades who actively participated in the preparation of materials for this event.

At the hearings, a frank conversation took place on the problems of creating and developing a real-life system of aerospace defense of the state, increasing the combat capability of the East Kazakhstani Army.

Many speakers focused on serious miscalculations in the organization of the country's aerospace defense, as well as on the apparent lack of means in the Armed Forces to combat high-precision cruise missiles, hypersonic aircraft and other modern and promising means of aerospace attack unavailable to existing air defense.

The participants of the hearings made proposals to improve the country's aerospace defense system and enhance the combat capabilities of the Armed Forces of the East Kazakhstan region, and adopted recommendations of the parliamentary hearings.

Among them the main ones are:

1. To transform EKR Troops into a form of Armed Forces.

2. To create a centralized command and control body for the armed struggle in the aerospace sphere - the Main Command of the operational-strategic group of the Aerospace Defense Forces.

3. Raise the status of the commander-in-chief of the operational-strategic grouping of the Armed Forces of the East Kazakhstan region to the deputy minister of defense and appoint him as a member of the Security Council. To provide for its direct submission to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation regarding the use of the EKR Troops to repel the attack of the enemy's WCS means.

4. Develop and adopt a draft Federal Law on the East Kazakhstan Region. In our opinion, it can be a definite guarantee from the transformations in the East Kazakhstan region according to the “Serdyukovskiy” variant, when the army is “reformed” to an incapable state, and those responsible for this cannot be found during the day with fire. There is no law on the Armed Forces, military science is not a decree to some domestic strategists, on the basis of which military reforms were carried out - a great secret from both lawmakers and society. If the creation of the East Kazakhstan Region will continue along the same path, there will be a big trouble.

Therefore, we have decided together with you to finalize and submit to the State Duma a draft law on aerospace defense. We would be very grateful for the amendments and comments to this document, which will make it possible to more clearly formulate its provisions.

The Defense Committee has set up a working group to prepare the law on aerospace defense for submission to the State Duma. Please connect to her work. Your knowledge and opinions are very important to us.

5. To form a state-controlled organization of the military-industrial complex, carrying out the development and mass production of the main military means of aerospace defense, as well as their delivery to the EKR Troops (by the way, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin has already reported that "Strategic systems of aerospace defense").

6. To transfer the air force grouping of fighter-interceptors into direct subordination to the command of the East Kazakhstani Army.

7. Upgrade the existing fleet of MiG-31 aircraft before adopting the new aircraft with the best characteristics.

8. When forming the State armament program for 2016 – 2025, provide for the development of a promising aircraft to replace the MiG-31 and include a section “R & D to create a promising aircraft - a long-range interception system for solving aerospace defense problems”.

9. Create on the basis of the Military Academy VKO them. Marshal G.K. Zhukov is the leading research organization for studying the problems of aerospace defense, and also to form a military educational institution for the commanding staff of the East Kazakhstani Army.

To a certain extent, this is realized. At present, based on the research centers of rocket and space defense (Moscow), air defense (Tver) and control of rocket and space means (Yubileyny, Moscow region), the Central Research Institute of East Kazakhstan region is being created, which will become the headquarters in the field of construction and development of aerospace defense.

Based on the findings of the Defense Committee and the November 2013 hearings of the year, a document signed by the head of the Communist Party faction in the State Duma Gennady Zyuganov, the chairman of the Duma Defense Committee Admiral Vladimir Komoedov and myself was addressed to President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin.

Vladimir Putin imposed a resolution on our letter: “Shoigu S. K. Consider when preparing for 25.11 – 30.11 meetings.” 28 November 2013, the head of state held a meeting on the development of aerospace defense, at which many problems of aerospace defense were discussed, including those outlined in our letter. He also spoke about this on December 12 of the year 2013 in the annual Presidential Address to the Federal Assembly.

I hope that the matter will not be limited only to verbal discussion, but effective measures will be taken to create an effective system for protecting Russia's strategic facilities from aerospace attack weapons.

In connection with the particular importance of the issue of strengthening and developing the aerospace defense system, as well as the use of combat aircraft complexes based on the MiG-31 in its provision and a variety of problems affecting the interests of many government structures and defense companies, we also sent written information on this issue Russian President Vladimir Putin; Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev; Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin; Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu; Chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces, Valery Gerasimov, secretary Secretary of the Security Council Nikolai Patrushev and heads of other state structures.

In my opinion, in order to coordinate activities in this area, it is advisable to create a commission under the President of Russia from among specialists who possess the necessary professional, organizational and personal qualities, and also appoint a special representative of the President of the Russian Federation, independent of departmental and corporate influence.

In conclusion, I would like to say the following: life itself, its harsh realities set for all of us - the leaders of the state, the military leaders, the deputies, and the scientists - of paramount importance: to create a modern, efficient army and effective aerospace defense of the country.

If we do not fulfill it, neither us nor Russia will exist!
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  1. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 5 March 2014 10: 50
    +5
    And do not forget about the need to improve communication systems and combat control - it's time to add something else to the TA-57 and DA-1 ...
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 5 March 2014 11: 58
      +5
      the most important thing is that they are talking about this from a high rostrum. In general, the process is underway. Surprisingly - the coordinated work of the government on key issues, excessive attention to the armed forces and military-industrial complex. It seems that the masks are reset and we are gaining momentum.


      Russia is Focusing
      (C)
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    4. Capyar 48315
      Capyar 48315 5 March 2014 12: 26
      +2
      I AND TA-43 USED ... Tapiki is sacred ... hands off laughing
    5. Su24
      Su24 5 March 2014 13: 12
      +2
      Such a large article and so little specificity, more emotional appeals.
      1. varov14
        varov14 5 March 2014 16: 18
        0
        So any specifics in the military, and not only issues, is a veiled betrayal, aren’t they gentlemen military specialists, forgive the peasant from the plow, maybe I don’t understand?
  2. AVV
    AVV 5 March 2014 10: 52
    +6
    You need to work, not blame unfounded, Gorbi. betrayed Russia, Serdyukov continued, but began seriously to correct the situation only now !!! Here is the result !!!
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 5 March 2014 12: 04
      +13
      If Serdyukov had really broken everything, then Shoigu would have had no chance to restore what had been broken in half a year.

      No matter how Serdyukov joked, Shoigu came to the ready-made, all financial flows were adjusted, salaries were raised, and a certain order was brought to the army's economy. And the army was ready to conduct "surprise checks"

      Before Serdyukov was appointed - there were many articles in the style - the new Minister of Defense would have to sweat pretty hard, bringing the entire economic and bureaucratic blockage in the ministry into the system.

      Vryatli would have been engaged in this by Shoigu or some other military general. Why did the accountant sit in the chair of the Moscow Region for a certain period

      In general, the Kremlin is not a fool either. It's time to trust the symbol of our country.
      What seems at first glance is the tip of the iceberg.

      And the fact that he stole and messed up is a different story. (which has already been resolved, flaws fixed or on the way to correction)

      So enough verbiage.
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 5 March 2014 12: 27
        +4
        Just Serdyukov did not manage to ruin everything.
      2. eagle11
        eagle11 5 March 2014 13: 32
        +4
        Serdyukov has almost completely destroyed the control system, in particular for air defense, the conversion of divisions and air defense corps into EKR brigades, cutting the staff in almost two, lowering the staff categories, dismissing officers who could still serve. And now they want to force me to serve up to fifty dollars, probably so that they can immediately from the service to the churchyard. They hung on the remaining pile of duties that no one has canceled, due to the reduction of people. Papers became more at times.
        Now, there is simply no time to prepare, after a week of testing, then a week to eliminate the shortcomings and another commission flies. Now in associations in departments and services, LTU are appointed to posts! Straight from high school. Where does their management experience come from? He is not! In general, everything is not very bright. The price is not experience and knowledge, but unquestioning obedience and heels.
        1. podpolkovnik
          podpolkovnik 12 March 2014 11: 54
          0
          Quote: eagle11
          Serdyukov has almost completely destroyed the control system, in particular for air defense, the conversion of divisions and air defense corps into EKR brigades, cutting the staff in almost two, lowering the staff categories, dismissing officers who could still serve. And now they want to force me to serve up to fifty dollars, probably so that they can immediately from the service to the churchyard. They hung on the remaining pile of duties that no one has canceled, due to the reduction of people. Papers became more at times.
          Now, there is simply no time to prepare, after a week of testing, then a week to eliminate the shortcomings and another commission flies. Now in associations in departments and services, LTU are appointed to posts! Straight from high school. Where does their management experience come from? He is not! In general, everything is not very bright. The price is not experience and knowledge, but unquestioning obedience and heels.

          I also forgot such a thing as searching for the defects found in other parts, drawing up an action plan to eliminate them and eliminate them. In the army, it sounds like "elimination of shortcomings by self-abandonment ... stay."
          I myself faced the cuts in staff, it's generally nonsense - to hang the issues of combat training on the chief of staff, he, one might think, has no other questions that need to be dealt with, and there is no regular nachboy. I had to prepare a freelance "nachboy" before dismissal on OSHM.
      3. NikoEro
        NikoEro 5 March 2014 15: 10
        +2
        Yes, we understand the pluses, but Serdyukov also created a fat minus - from the goals of creating a powerful army with the willingness to repulse a massive strike, he got a huge special forces unit that solves problems on limited tracts of land, and irrationally solves them. Shoigu came to the finished infrastructure - no one disputes, but now he is able to make just the global army, which he did with the Ministry of Emergencies - from a narrowly focused special unit, having made a structure that deals with almost EVERYTHING (I think there is no need to explain). Now, if the military-industrial complex were still loaded with state orders in normal volumes, so that Soviet footcloths would finally end and new weapons appeared in all parts and subunits, then I think we can raise the question of the imperialism of our state and independence when deciding on external pressure. In the meantime, a quick restructuring of the visible part, calculated for as many as 15 years. We are waiting, I hope there is time.

        Regarding East Kazakhstan oblast - what to expect from a structure that was born in proper form a couple of years ago, our half a century will not be brought to mind in any way, and here a child wants to see a strong athlete in a child. I believe that everything will work out, but you don’t need to start moving from a direct course in serpentine!
        1. SV
          SV 5 March 2014 20: 38
          0
          "NikoEro" is a big plus good
      4. varov14
        varov14 5 March 2014 16: 36
        -2
        "So enough verbiage." --- Maybe it’s verbiage, but when they say that 20 trillion rubles must be mastered by 20, and one trillion is a whole thousand billion (billions are somehow more understandable) and at the exit I hear about five planes, about a destroyer, and so on little things, how much does it all cost? I am silent about submarines and large ships, they have been standing on the stocks for years.
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 5 March 2014 19: 49
          0
          only in VBOs в 11111 units of aircraft were sent
          not counting air defense systems (and armor and s-400) and other equipment.
          I’m writing about this military district and the figure of 2011, because it was engraved in memory.
          This year, a very decent number of technicians arrived (both aircraft, in helicopter engineering generally a boom the last couple of years, and nuclear submarines and Yarsy and Iskander, etc.)

          But I think even after such information - your answer will be - 5 aircraft and 1 destroyer
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  3. Grbear
    Grbear 5 March 2014 10: 59
    +23
    Alexander Tarnayev is a deputy from the KGB Communist Party. For 20 years, the Communist Party-15-30% of the composition of the Duma. recourse
    Question to you: Where were you when you saw the rockets? repeat

    And now - Grab the platform, the station is leaving? am
    1. SHILO
      SHILO 5 March 2014 12: 03
      +4
      Quote: GrBear
      Question to you: Where were you when you saw the rockets?



      "I am doubly pleased with this, since I am a deputy from the Nizhny Novgorod region, on the territory of which the Sokol plant is located."

      And in my opinion it is worth paying attention to this phrase. what
    2. vlademaev
      vlademaev 5 March 2014 12: 40
      +7
      GrBear SU Today, 10:59 AM
      Alexander Tarnayev is a deputy from the KGB Communist Party. For 20 years, the Communist Party-15-30% of the composition of the Duma. recourse
      Question to you: Where were you when you saw the rockets? feel

      Sami and answered. 15-30% of the Duma. These percentages only introduce laws, but are not accepted at all. Until now, many laws have been introduced by the Communists and Zhirinovites and Just-Russians, including the confiscation of property from a stealing official, but the majority does not accept it.
    3. varov14
      varov14 5 March 2014 16: 48
      0
      This is the one from Gorbachev, the hereditary one - the doctors vaccinated the wrong one, the left hemisphere does not know what the right one is doing. But the slogans were memorized for life - everything is for the people, it is a pity it is no longer in the hemisphere, but somewhere in the subcortex of the brain, like zombies, they say one thing and vote for the exact opposite.
  4. Wiruz
    Wiruz 5 March 2014 11: 49
    +4
    In view of the aggravating situation, the news is rather sad ... I would like to believe that the article is not true.
    1. Salamander
      Salamander 5 March 2014 13: 30
      +2
      And who has full-fledged aerospace defense? The Americans have already demonstrated how vigilant they are ... even in the Strategic Missile Forces. But there is no one to attack them yet (and let them continue to hope for this!) ...
      In Russia, there are (unfortunately, not enough) excellent air defense systems, there are excellent radar systems, and there are slightly outdated but angry Mig-31s. However, there is no full-fledged aerospace defense and air defense system yet, cooperation has not been established - and we need to work on it and work!
  5. Same lech
    Same lech 5 March 2014 11: 52
    +3
    The military dangers and threats to Russia from the United States and NATO have become a reality.

    This has already been said and screamed at the top so many times — contradictions in the world of capital inevitably lead to war — which we are now observing.
  6. baltika-18
    baltika-18 5 March 2014 11: 54
    +3
    The MiG-31D seems to be connected with the "Contact" system for intercepting and destroying satellites. But it hasn't been working for a long time. There are specials on the site, right or not?
    Are you going to restore?
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 5 March 2014 12: 40
      +2
      The MiG-31Ds themselves are located in Kazakhstan. There is also a ground station, it seems like it was modernized in 2010.
      A year ago there was an article on this subject, I don’t remember exactly what for what.
  7. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 5 March 2014 11: 55
    +2
    A pleasant surprise is that such a commission exists and even works. They propose to return the Soviet air defense system of the country with adjustments to modern political realities. But I think the rulers will not be very interested. They are busy with new headquarters, the double-triple subordination of the same parts and other such fun.
  8. moremansf
    moremansf 5 March 2014 11: 58
    +8
    "... the most devastating blow to the Armed Forces was delivered not by American Stealths and Tomahawks, but by reforms ..." I can not disagree with this ... One Serdyukov is only worth it !!!
    But in other aspects of the article I don’t quite agree ... it’s not so bad with us in this area, he draws on a certain PR of the deputy’s comrade from the Communist Party - "A document signed by the head of the Communist Party faction in the State Duma Gennady Zyuganov, the chairman of the Duma Defense Committee, Admiral Vladimir Komoedov, and myself has been sent to the President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin." And that Shoigu and Ragozin are silent and do nothing ???? LET'S BE OBJECTIVE !!!! We are not meeting in the State Duma in a rush to increase the rating of the faction !!!!
    1. aksakal
      aksakal 5 March 2014 13: 51
      +2
      Quote: moremansf
      And that Shoigu and Ragozin are silent and do nothing ???? LET'S BE OBJECTIVE !!!! We are not meeting in the State Duma in a rush to increase the rating of the faction !!!!

      - It seems to me that now is one of the best Defense Ministers in Russia over the past decade. There were Zhukov, Ustinov (also not without errors, I almost drank all the guns foolishly laughing Shipunov and Gryazev sabotaged) then zeros, and here is Shoigu. But I will not praise yet, it is, thoughts aloud. And I'm afraid to jinx it.
      And the Russian Army, it seems to me, at the moment is a completely viable organism, albeit not the most healthy and directly full of health, after 20 years of dry fasting it is difficult to look like a rosy-cheeked jock, but somehow to put it in a coffin ... funeral of any other Army will catch cold! And mind you, to print in your media about what a crap the Russian army is is one thing. And the other - what about the fact that at least just stand by when the Russian Army starts to move? She moved 080808, moves a little now. So what? Yes, like Banderlog, the whole world froze with horror and fear - "the Russians are coming!" Yatsenyuk would have already turned to NATO for help - so they explained to him that he would not even stutter! If it sucks, why be so scared to the chilling ringing? But there is something to be afraid of. And let them be afraid.
      In general, my IMHO - things in the Army are not as bad as here: "Our Armed Forces are currently on the verge of collapse. This is the result of numerous thoughtless reforms carried out over the past 20 years." Somehow shrilly: "Chief! The truncated is gone! The plaster cast is being removed, the client is leaving!" I'm not saying that everything is fine, but as an outside observer, I state the facts - the Russian Army was not a force - they would not be so afraid of it. But they are afraid, half to death afraid.
  9. moremansf
    moremansf 5 March 2014 12: 04
    +1
    Maybe that will be decided on the responsibility of the former leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation: -
    Moscow, March 5 - AIF-Moscow. Son-in-law of ex-Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov, former deputy director of the Federal State Unitary Enterprise “St. Petersburg Engineering and Technical Center of the Ministry of Defense of Russia” Valery Puzikov voluntarily appeared in the investigating authorities, where he was charged with embezzlement and embezzlement on a particularly large scale.
    1. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 5 March 2014 13: 07
      +1
      If he came by himself, it means he knows that he is not in danger. Remember the case of the Moscow Region prosecutors. Ignatenko even ran on the run. Caught him in Poland. And in Russia, all the defendants have already been released and apologized. I can imagine how he thought - Here I am a sucker, was it worth it to run? Now, probably, it will also require compensation. And the Prosecutor General recently recently stated that there was nothing at all, and the journalists were to blame for everything. What can I say when the State Duma refused to investigate the activities of Serdyukov at the post of Moscow Region. I wonder how they can argue this?
  10. Alexey M
    Alexey M 5 March 2014 12: 06
    +8
    Availability of production facilities and technological infrastructure at the Sokol plant in Nizhny Novgorod, which previously produced the MiG-31, and is currently upgrading these aircraft in the MiG-31BM.
    I live a kilometer away from the plant and somehow the "work" of the plant is not felt. But when I went to school, the plant did not let me sleep because it constantly drove the engines of the planes and there were flights.
    But in general, of course, I agree with us where the ass is not stuck everywhere. Either we finish off the Soviet backlogs, or we’re talking alone.
  11. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 5 March 2014 12: 06
    +6
    Read more did not become a minus for revealing military secrets and lack of confidence in our forces, why shouldn’t I spread this? what would they think that we are weak? badly.
  12. Gagarin
    Gagarin 5 March 2014 12: 08
    +8
    It’s clear that there’s more than enough mess, but I doubt that everything is so bad.
    The article has the right direction but there are NOT CORRECT notes:
    THE CHEF EVERYTHING HAS DROPPED, THE GIPS IS REMOVED ...
  13. ZU-23
    ZU-23 5 March 2014 12: 13
    +3
    The S-500 "Prometheus" complexes will be in service with the Aerospace Defense Forces and will cover the entire country.
  14. Good cat
    Good cat 5 March 2014 12: 13
    +1
    Maybe more such articles are needed? That would run even faster. earned ...
    1. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 5 March 2014 12: 52
      +2
      Rather panicked and fled.
      1. varov14
        varov14 5 March 2014 17: 04
        0
        And where to run, who is waiting, so in the West they are not so much afraid of the army as of the people themselves. In the morning they feel that in which case we will always put the glass upside down, with all our flights.
  15. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 5 March 2014 12: 14
    +2
    I understood from the read-through letter that it was necessary to create a separate structure with many generals responsible for aerospace defense, without this, it’s impossible to modernize and repair MIGs, nor to create automated systems for detecting, guiding and communicating, as well as without them lamp bearers , oh, and even a separate academy for East Kazakhstan region needs to be created with the appropriate infrastructure and wagon train, after which there will be no money left for repairs, modernization, R&D and creation of new equipment for East Kazakhstan region. Well done, .... b, all these commissions, assessors and experts, it seems they exist only for cutting state funds.
    1. varov14
      varov14 5 March 2014 17: 08
      +1
      So one structure, always less than two, and even more so many.
  16. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 5 March 2014 12: 21
    +2
    we also broke a lot of firewood before the war, managed and now we can handle it.
    1. varov14
      varov14 5 March 2014 17: 12
      +1
      Better before the war, save the extra lives for our children. It is necessary to learn from old, far from the best, examples.
  17. mango68
    mango68 5 March 2014 12: 23
    0
    Interestingly, what about space? Gobbled up?
  18. brosai_kurit
    brosai_kurit 5 March 2014 12: 27
    0
    We arrived ...
    Stories tend to spiral. It is recommended to return to the Soviet-style air defense structure, but at a higher level.
  19. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 5 March 2014 12: 42
    +1
    This is actually written:
    1. The army of reform collapsed.
    2. To fix this, one more reform is needed.
    How effectively do not control one diver, he will not protect the country from a space threat (no offense to the diver). To increase efficiency, you just need to build tanks, train officers, develop new equipment (this is clear to the hedgehog).
    And in general, it is very similar to a weather vane: they pressed Serdyukov - it means that something needs to be done about the reforms so that people would love the boss.
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  21. maestro123
    maestro123 5 March 2014 12: 44
    0
    Quote: s-t Petrov
    If Serdyukov had really broken everything, then Shoigu would have had no chance to restore what had been broken in half a year.

    The main thing is that only for the benefit of the state’s defense, and actually tanks, tanks, and we don’t have enough precision weapons and aircraft.
    When our defense and armaments become insurmountable for the United States and other "partners" they will forget about their "democracy" and we will not care about their military cooperation.
  22. NBN
    NBN 5 March 2014 12: 53
    0
    "Reforms" in the army were carried out by people from the CIA, why are we surprised?
    They did everything right - at the minimum cost (to bribe bureaucrats) they reached the maximum effect - to destroy 400 of the 500 MIGs in a war would be much more expensive!
  23. bender8282
    bender8282 5 March 2014 12: 55
    0
    let's hope that the situation will soon change
  24. saag
    saag 5 March 2014 13: 12
    0
    the author is so all contradictory then - "There is no reliable Russian aerospace defense system", then - "the country's aerospace borders are a" leaky sieve ";", I would define, otherwise two in one are mutually exclusive
  25. Zomanus
    Zomanus 5 March 2014 13: 12
    0
    Yes, the Communist Party has such a share. constantly cry for the past. And then what needs to be done, it is already visible. And done. Honestly fed up with these snot. Yes, shitty, but they all ruined. But we are restoring it. And at its best, without clinging to the old. Voronezh alone along the perimeter of the country (I hope that soon) is worth it.
  26. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 5 March 2014 13: 17
    0
    The article, as they say, "Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye" is something to think about. I am only surprised why Poghosyan and Manturov still did not let Poghosyan and Manturov for the collapse of the aviation industry, under a good (up to twenty years) article?! Nuclear deterrent forces ) are being modernized too slowly and new components are being built even more slowly. Percussion UAVs, precision weapons, where? So far, only one talk ...
  27. vsdvs
    vsdvs 5 March 2014 13: 20
    +1
    Quote: s-t Petrov
    No matter how Serdyukov joked, Shoigu came to the ready-made, all financial flows were adjusted, salaries were raised, and a certain order was brought to the army's economy. And the army was ready to conduct "surprise checks"

    As far as we can see Serdyukov and his "harem" have successfully established financial flows in their pockets.
  28. TAMERLAN 7
    TAMERLAN 7 5 March 2014 13: 28
    +4
    The most important thing is nuclear deterrence! That’s what should be impeccably and 100% likely to cause unacceptable damage to the enemy and 100% combat readiness and 100% readiness. Everyone should know that if something happens - armageddon! Hitler would not attack the USSR if his assessment of our potential would not be so low! Our main focus is nuclear weapons and their immediate use (and first). The important thing is not to apply it (God forbid), but that the aggressors believe that we will use it and it will be over! In the meantime, a nuclear shield covers us, we must create an army of the future. Thoughtfully thought out to the smallest detail, and not a blunder, I blinded you from what it was ..... So far there is time and money for this (there is always a little money, but everything in this world is relative ...).
    1. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik 12 March 2014 12: 06
      0
      So explain more accessible .....
  29. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 5 March 2014 13: 37
    +4
    Excuse me, do we have a reliable air defense system? I myself am from Nizhny Novgorod, as can be seen from the profile. This is the 4th-5th city of Russia in terms of population, GAZ, plant No. 21 "Sokol", OKBM, etc., plus the federal nuclear center "Arzamas-16" (Sarov) in the region, and in the very Arzamas-AMZ.
    Earlier, during the Soviet era, all this splendor was covered by the 16th Air Defense Corps, which covered five nearby regions and three republics. It consisted of 2 aviation regiments: 786 IAP - - in Pravdinsk on MiG-25 and 153 IAP - in Morshansk (Tambov region) on SU-15, anti-aircraft missile regiments, S-300 brigades (region). In the city itself was located the command post of the so-called corps. "Pechersky Bunker", which was designed on the basis of full autonomy of 72 hours (by air) and could withstand an indirect charge of one megaton with a deviation of 200 meters and its own Gorky Higher Anti-Aircraft Missile Command School.
    Air defense.
    And now: the school was disbanded in the 1999 year. All equipment was taken out of the KP building, it was mothballed and became the target of non-ferrous metal hunters and diggers ...





    At the aerodrome in Pravdinsk, cadets and everyone who wants to jump with a parachute, from the S-300 air defense system there is only one left, stands in the courtyard of the University and learns "jackets" on it.
    Oh yeah, I forgot that in Kulebak district we still had Savasleyka, where a whole squadron of MiG-31 planes is based, though of them it is capable of flying up to the link at best ... And their main task is to cover the nuclear center in Sarov , training of aviation personnel and military tests, rather than covering the city and region.
  30. Mizhgan
    Mizhgan 5 March 2014 13: 43
    0
    On the way S-500. Quickly only rabbits breed ...
  31. aleks700
    aleks700 5 March 2014 13: 46
    -3
    If there is not enough opportunity to cover the whole territory, can it be reduced? Give to the Chinese, Ukraine, the Baltic states. What? not? ABOUT! I'm on the wrong site! laughing
  32. psychologist
    psychologist 5 March 2014 13: 49
    +2
    the author of the article is direct some kind of alarmist !! lol not everything is so poor !! wink
  33. Takashi
    Takashi 5 March 2014 14: 19
    0
    I immediately had questions

    "Many speakers focused on serious miscalculations in the organization of the country's aerospace defense, as well as on the obvious shortage in our Armed Forces of means of combating high-precision cruise missiles, hypersonic aircraft and other modern and promising aerospace attack weapons, inaccessible to the existing air defense . "

    - How can you deal with high-precision cruise missiles?
    - hypersonic aircraft?
    - means of aerospace attack?

    if they are inaccessible to the existing air defense?
    C-500 is also not ready yet. And how and by whom he will be able to work is unknown.
    Fight MiG-31?
    1. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik 12 March 2014 12: 21
      0
      Quote: Takashi
      I immediately had questions

      "Many speakers focused on serious miscalculations in the organization of the country's aerospace defense, as well as on the obvious shortage in our Armed Forces of means of combating high-precision cruise missiles, hypersonic aircraft and other modern and promising aerospace attack weapons, inaccessible to the existing air defense . "

      - How can you deal with high-precision cruise missiles?
      - hypersonic aircraft?
      - means of aerospace attack?

      if they are inaccessible to the existing air defense?
      C-500 is also not ready yet. And how and by whom he will be able to work is unknown.
      Fight MiG-31?

      Who told you that - "unattainable for the existing air defense" .... you don't need to panic, okay?
      We are still talking about a shortage, and inaccessibility is implied for (I stress)promising means of aerospace attack
  34. Kyrgyz
    Kyrgyz 5 March 2014 14: 29
    +1
    The article looks like lobbying for the creation of a separate kind of troops in order to expand someone’s powers and increase weight in politics. The creation of a kind of troops with the endowment of people with posts and stars and a share in the budget does not necessarily improve the situation in the field of air defense or aerospace defense, the presence of the above problems is not generally controversial, but the proposals for resolving them are doubtful.
  35. Yves762
    Yves762 5 March 2014 15: 05
    0
    More and more I am affirmed in the opinion that it would be worthwhile to streamline the "system" of defining a particular person as an "expert" in any area .... Especially if his opinion is an argument in the discussion.

    Our Armed Forces are now virtually on the verge of collapse.
    In Russia, in recent years, there have been many different exercises. But I personally did not come across a sensible third-party (or, if you prefer, independent) analysis on them. It would also be interesting to know, not intended for the press, the opinions of foreign military and "experts".
    1. podpolkovnik
      podpolkovnik 12 March 2014 12: 19
      0
      Quote: Yves762
      More and more I am affirmed in the opinion that it would be worthwhile to streamline the "system" of defining a particular person as an "expert" in any area .... Especially if his opinion is an argument in the discussion.

      Our Armed Forces are now virtually on the verge of collapse.
      In Russia, in recent years, there have been many different exercises. But I personally did not come across a sensible third-party (or, if you prefer, independent) analysis on them. It would also be interesting to know, not intended for the press, the opinions of foreign military and "experts".

      Who needs to know - they know, analyze, draw conclusions and make decisions. Current events are a good example.
  36. smart ass
    smart ass 5 March 2014 15: 10
    +1
    Delusional article. And without it, everything was clear.
  37. kocclissi
    kocclissi 5 March 2014 15: 43
    0
    Maybe the author has a Phobia and he thinks that he is not protected?
  38. Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 5 March 2014 16: 07
    +1
    Brr ... I immediately moved on to specific issues, i.e. suggestions what to do. If there are none, reading statements is like drawing water with a pitchfork.

    We look
    1. To transform EKR Troops into a form of Armed Forces.

    And to this day, they must have been children from kindergarten the sun?
    Aerospace Defense Forces is an independent branch of the armed forces, on combat duty since December 1, 2011.
    those. They are, as I understand it, such as the Strategic Missile Forces, not the SV, not the Air Force, not the Navy.

    2. To create a centralized control body for the armed struggle in the aerospace sphere

    Remember Shoigu or Rogozin said that we were going to build a centralized headquarters of the troops like the American Pentagon.

    3. Raise the status of commander in chief of the operational-strategic grouping of the East Kazakhstan region troops to the deputy minister of defense and appoint a member of the Security Council.

    and spawn ten more deputies and thirty order-bearers.
    To provide for its direct submission to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the RF Armed Forces in terms of the use of EKO troops to repel an attack by enemy VKN assets.

    I recommend that someone read legal documents () 87 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation), or at least Wikipedia.
    The President of the Russian Federation is also the guarantor of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the rights and freedoms of man and citizen and Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation
    those. in the event of hostilities, the entire headquarters submits to him, including East Kazakhstan region.

    4. To develop and adopt a draft federal law on aerospace defense.

    They want to reform and the law will not help, and if you accept, then you need to accept about everyone and appoint responsible with whom to ask. Moreover, it is necessary to ask not from the soldier, but with the generals - and do not care that he brings down the soldier, the government sets the task for him how he carries out this his work, did not fulfill it - answer. And then we have Senior, middle, middle to junior, but there is no answer from junior.

    Therefore, we have decided together with you to finalize and submit to the State Duma a draft law on aerospace defense.

    Where? Of course, I will not say anything about the "sofa troops", but ordinary servicemen have more important tasks than to dangle to Moscow - they have to sit at the console and control.

    5. To form a state-controlled organization of the military-industrial complex, carrying out the development and mass production of the main military means of aerospace defense, as well as their delivery to the EKR Troops (by the way, Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin has already reported that "Strategic systems of aerospace defense").

    see above. if you accept, then you need to accept about everyone and appoint responsible with whom to ask.

    6. To transfer the air force grouping of fighter-interceptors into direct subordination to the command of the East Kazakhstani Army.

    And front-line planes will meet bare back. Rather, create a special group of long-range interceptor fighters.
    1. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 5 March 2014 16: 11
      -1
      7. Upgrade the existing fleet of MiG-31 aircraft before adopting the new aircraft with the best characteristics.
      8. When forming the State armament program for 2016 – 2025, provide for the development of a promising aircraft to replace the MiG-31 and include a section “R & D to create a promising aircraft - a long-range interception system for solving aerospace defense problems”.

      It seems that somewhere about the MiG-35 they wrote for this case. In addition, the PAK FA, from the point of view of scientific developments, will give quite a lot for such a project and this project eats quite a few resource base, and it is not endless. Hence the question is different - where to find personnel and funds for the implementation of this program?
      It should be noted that in order for airplanes, tanks, RSs and much more to appear in the USSR in 1941, it was necessary to train specialists and prepare the industrial base (yes, it was a part of the GULAG). Now done has begun, but with democratic leisurelyness and Russian gouging.

      9. Create on the basis of the Military Academy of East Kazakhstan region. Marshal G.K. Zhukov

      And what does the center of the name Titov not like?

      In general, as usual, they carry water with a sieve. Where is the specifics? That is why Comrade Stalin loves and respects that he did not tolerate such talkers, but asked for concrete and feasible proposals.
      And this is more like slogans from the rally, and upon concrete consideration of the proposals, they simply crumble.
      1. podpolkovnik
        podpolkovnik 12 March 2014 12: 15
        0
        [quote = ShadowCat] [quote] 7.

        [quote] 9. Create on the basis of the Military Academy VKO them. Marshal G. K. Zhukov [/ quote]
        And what does the center of the name Titov not like?

        Do not confuse God's gift with egg ........
        The Main Testing Center for Testing and Control of Space Equipment named after G. S. Titov has a different plan.
        And the name VA VKO speaks for itself, it is not only a forge of personnel ...
        By the way, Serdyuk wanted to disperse them, but realized it in time.
  39. wax
    wax 5 March 2014 16: 11
    +1
    The oligarchs should finance the defense industry more; it exists for them no less than for the rest of the population.
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  42. Alexey M
    Alexey M 5 March 2014 17: 26
    +1
    Quote: Wax
    The oligarchs should finance the defense industry more; it exists for them no less than for the rest of the population.

    There shouldn’t be oligarchs in Russia at all. At least not at liberty. You can’t earn a billion dollars in 20 years, but they can be stolen by oligarchs then all thieves. A thief must be in prison !!!
  43. K-36
    K-36 5 March 2014 17: 29
    0
    For those PChs who want to understand how they intend to "tie" the MiG-31 to the solution of aerospace defense problems, I recommend reading all five pages of this link:
    http://novosti-kosmonavtiki.ru/forum/forum13/topic13997/
    The conversation is again not about all MiG-31 without exception, but only about a special modification. love
  44. navigator
    navigator 5 March 2014 18: 30
    -1
    Really according to the MSNS-SF: 4 rpkSN military service. Pacific Fleet: 0. Think for yourself.
  45. navigator
    navigator 5 March 2014 18: 32
    0
    By the way, France-4, England-4.