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Western media: even blamed "Russia's imperial ambitions," but are ready to divide Ukraine

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To events in Crimea responded representatives of the Western press. So far everything is pretty formulaic: in the "developed countries" mainly kamlat over the sovereignty and integrity of Ukraine, denouncing Putin's imperial ambitions. But at the same time in the publications emerges internal readiness to divide Ukraine.


We present excerpts of the most notable publications.

Traditional

NATO member states should not overreact to Putin's defense historical Russian interests in eastern Ukraine, Christopher Meyer, former British ambassador to Germany and the United States, argues in an article for The Times.

According to the author of the article, what is happening is a crisis for Ukraine and the Crimea in particular. Well, for Putin, of course. After all, if he is considered a violator of international law, he and Russia will lose prestige, while in Russia Putin will have “universal contempt if people find that he“ lost ”Ukraine and especially Crimea”.

Well, of course, the result of the note is clear: we are not defending anyone there, and Putin is simply driven by the desire to return Russia to the status of a great power. "For Moscow, Obama's words that Russia will" pay "for the invasion are like water off a duck's back," the author concludes. At the same time, Obama and NATO will really "pay" if they can not move Putin from the current path, especially since Putin is sure that the United States and NATO will not fight with him.

The Daily Beast revealed US plans. The publication claims that the Obama administration behind the scenes is planning an economic attack on Russia in response to its "invasion of Ukraine." Everyone will get everything in the neck - from the Russian military to government officials and businessmen. Separately arrive "Russian-speaking separatists in Ukraine."

On Sunday, Secretary of State Kerry already threatened with harsh measures. The US also wants to harmonize sanctions with the EU countries to achieve maximum efficiency, and at the same time they are preparing a new package of economic assistance to the Ukrainian “leadership”.

The Guardian, in turn, believes that the threat of John Kerry to exclude Russia from G8 may entail a "dangerous escalation of the crisis." Kerry’s haste aspiring to punish Russia and NATO’s decision to respond to Kiev’s appeals by holding a meeting of representatives of the North Atlantic Alliance in Brussels were a mistake. Ukraine is not part of this alliance, so no commitments on collective defense can be applied here. NATO should refrain from interfering in Ukrainian affairs, both in word and deed.

At the heart of the crisis in Crimea and Russia's fierce resistance to potential changes lies NATO’s blatant desire to continue its expansion twenty years ago, moving east into the post-Soviet space. There is no doubt that the Pentagon sees in its dreams those days when the US Navy will replace the Russian Black Sea the fleet in Crimean cities.

The Wall Street Journal writes: The United States and its European allies are demanding that Russia "stop the occupation of the Crimea." On Sunday, they threatened to “isolate” Russian President Vladimir Putin and impose sanctions on the country's economy.

Washington has begun to abolish joint economic and trade initiatives with Moscow, including preparations for the G8 summit, which is planned to be held in Sochi in June. The G8 members made a joint statement on Sunday condemning Russia for a clear violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity, and said they would suspend their participation in preparing the summit until Moscow’s military intervention in the affairs of Crimea ceases.

“Russian troops now have the ability to fully control the Crimean peninsula: about 6 thousand units of aircraft, naval forces, military equipment. There is no doubt that they occupied the Crimea ", - one of the reviews.

Officials in Washington and across Europe have long searched for the Achilles heel of Moscow and decided that in a situation of weakening the Russian economy and currency, the reduction of trade relations would be exactly what was needed.

The publication reports that British Foreign Secretary William Hague arrived in Kiev to express respect for the new Ukrainian authorities and confirm the position of the United Kingdom. US Secretary of State John Kerry will visit the Ukrainian capital on Tuesday to provide support to the interim government and help quickly strengthen the shrinking finances.

The newspaper The New York Times, in turn, broke out with emotional notes and first-hand information. The source in this case was a certain 24-year-old Arthur, who told in detail about what bad taste reigned in the residence of Yanukovich - icons, leather furniture, knightly armor. In a word - not fashionable.

However, Arthur told the whole truth about the situation in Ukraine: “New people distribute posts to corrupt officials. They are corrupt idiots. "

The last two months, the young man was in the ranks of self-defense of the Maidan, so he knows everything. He is sure that Moscow’s attempts to “exacerbate the situation” will not lead to anything, since Russia has nothing to offer Ukraine except fuel and energy, “and in the era of shale gas, it will soon become completely unnecessary.” Well and, of course, the publication notes that the Russians stole the identity of Ukraine, the language and the land.

Next.

The conflict in Ukraine threatens not only regional country's sovereignty, he is able to have a negative impact on European economies, writes The Telegraph.

The “experts” interviewed by the publication warn that the situation in Crimea may lead to an increase in the price of bread in the UK, since Ukraine is of strategic importance for global food supplies and is one of the world leaders in grain exports.

It is emphasized that the Crimea is an extremely important region, since the grain of Ukraine is exported mainly through its ports.

But this is not the limit. Russia itself may be on the verge of a humanitarian crisis - hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians flee to Russia, fearing for their lives. The world is expected to boom refugees and those seeking temporary housing. Mass migration can be a serious burden for Russia, Forbes is concerned.

In addition to the Russian-speaking, from the new language law suffered Hungarians, Romanians and Moldovans. They also lost their status of official languages ​​in several cities in western Ukraine.

Separately is the publication in the personal blog of former US Ambassador to Russia Jack Matlock. According to him - the opinion of one of the most reputable American experts on the post-Soviet states, the behavior of the United States in the international arena deprives the conviction of their reference to the need to respect sovereignty and territorial integrity in relation to Ukraine.

As he writes, Russia can rightly assert that the States are interested in the territorial integrity of countries only when it is in their interests. “The track record of US governments shows that they ignore it when it suits them,” as when they, along with NATO allies, violated the territorial integrity of Serbia, creating and then recognizing independent Kosovo, and besides Sudan from Sudan, Eritrea from Ethiopia and East Timor from Indonesia, ”writes Matlock.

That is, in fact, “giving lectures on the observance of sovereignty and territorial integrity can be perceived by the United States as a claim to special rights that are not recognized for others.” Accordingly, all the “warnings” to Moscow from Washington’s side are the “ill-conceived step” of the White House, and Russia, “like any other country,” is simply “extremely sensitive to foreign military activities on its borders.”

Matlock also told what he thinks directly about Ukraine itself. According to the definition that he gave to the country, it is “a state, but not yet a nation”, because “for 22 of the year of independence there has not yet been a leader who could unite citizens around a common understanding of Ukrainian identity”. The current "confusion in Ukraine is caused not by Russian intervention, but by the way this country was randomly assembled from a number of parts that are not always compatible with each other." Matlock is convinced that “because of its history, geographical location and economic ties, Ukraine in no case can be a prosperous, healthy and united country without friendly (or at least not hostile) relations with Russia.”

New

At the same time, a new trend is emerging against the background of the usual inform-wave. It can be described as an internal readiness to “divide Ukraine with Russia”.

Thus, Ukrainian political scientists note that on the website of the German publication Der Spiegel the thematic title on the main page was changed from “Ukraine” to “Crimea”. And suddenly something strange happened: in the main Germanic editions, the word “provocations” in connection with the Russian actions in Ukraine began to be used exclusively in quotes; the population of the Crimea from Ukrainians turned into Russians; Crimea, it turns out, has always been a Russian region. Even the “Right Sector” from the category of freedom fighters smoothly moved into the category of dangerous right-wing radicals.

Philip Misfelder, speaker of the Christian Democratic Union on foreign policy issues, said that rapprochement with Russia is in the interests of Europe. He told the Reuters news agency that the geostrategic issue of the Crimea is perceived by Moscow very emotionally, because the Crimea is historically “der Kernbereich Rußlands”, the “original region of Russia”.

In the early days of the Crimean crisis, phrases were heard about “Russian provocations” and “Russian aggression” - now these terms come up exclusively in quotation marks, and, at least, Der Spiegel believes that the issue with Crimea “has already been practically resolved”. The last two materials, the “Dilemma of the Europeans” and “Operation Crimean Protectorate”, clearly indicate that the issue of the peninsula is almost closed. The first article discusses the issue of financial assistance to suffering Ukraine, these plans are even compared with the Marshall Plan. At the same time, it is emphasized that Brussels is not in a hurry to sign the Association with Ukraine. Noteworthy is the phrase that the European Union is clearly not ready to engage in unresolved territorial conflicts. In this regard, the candidate for the European Parliament from the liberal FDP and foreign policy specialist Alexander Graf Lambsdorf says that Ukraine is in an extremely difficult situation. In which case, she will have to “die Krim für die Integration in der EU opfern” - “sacrifice the Crimea for the sake of integration into the EU”. The second material, “Operation Crimean Protectorate,” examines Russia's behavior. It is argued that the Russian maneuver to bring the Crimea into its sphere of influence, "perhaps one day will be included in the textbooks on military tactics."

However, it is noted that the annexation of the Crimea is not necessarily the final goal of Putin: rather, the plan is to pursue a broad autonomy within Ukraine, the “unofficial protectorate”. It is impossible not to notice the almost admiring tone of the article, despite the fact that anti-Russian rhetoric is more characteristic of this magazine.

In general, as noted in the last week a significant part of the European media has changed its position on three issues.

First, the "Invasion." If initially Russian actions in Crimea were considered to be obvious aggression, now they are described in a more neutral tone, right up to admiration and approval.

Secondly, the "Crimea". All talk about the mandatory observance of the territorial integrity of Ukraine ceased when the first Russian flags rose above the "Ukrainian cities". Now the desire of the "Russian Peninsula" to autonomy is considered the natural and democratic will of the people.

Thirdly, the "Right Sector". Freedom fighters rather quickly turned into marginal extremists, and then completely into aggressive fascists who dreamed of blood.
Originator:
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  1. AVV
    AVV 5 March 2014 10: 44
    +68
    We can not trust the Anglo-Saxons and European politicians in anything, we were convinced of this in practice !!! They will sell, deceive and resell again! Only a tough defense of our interests can cool their ardor a little !!!
    1. smel
      smel 5 March 2014 11: 03
      +28
      Yes .. The emperor’s words that Russia has two allies - the army and navy are still relevant. And the fact that there is no confidence in the colonialists is also an axiom. Only now colonial dependence is now somewhat different. Yes, and they stopped carrying blacks. Now the Negroes wash the pots from the colonial powers and the Slavs themselves go
      1. kodxnumx
        kodxnumx 5 March 2014 12: 13
        +6
        it just seems to me on this score that 1000 years ago that one and the same politics now don’t go to our brother! and for so many nuts you can’t do it! so many countries and peoples disappeared from the face, but Russia stands and will stand, we are all telling us tales about three heroes, I think the meaning is hidden in them, Ilya Muromets-Russia, good-natured Nikitich-Ukraine, Alyosha Popovitch Belarus! and all three Russian fairy tales in the family. And for so many centuries we have been them like shy cats with your nose in your own poke, as after this you don’t build all sorts of dirty tricks, you shouldn’t wash yourself. have time, but I think it’s already a habit like drug addicts are breaking up, so to speak, they can’t have their nose in shit anymore. habit !;)
        1. blizart
          blizart 5 March 2014 19: 17
          +2
          Ilya Muromets-Russia, Dobrynya Nikitich-Ukraine, Alyosha Popovich Belarus!

          They peer into the Wild Field - Where the hell are these Kazakhs
          1. Setrac
            Setrac 5 March 2014 21: 45
            +3
            Quote: blizart
            They peer into the Wild Field - Where the hell are these Kazakhs

            Scha, Tugarin the Serpent will drive up and the four of them will go to the Koshchei immortals to decorate.
      2. CALL.
        CALL. 6 March 2014 09: 36
        +2
        Friends! Have fun! What the partner with the USA told me. Says they have a panic! He says that they are buying food in stores. They say the media reported that Russia has now attacked Ukraine and will take away the Crimea, and then go and take away Alaska from them. I recalled Zadornov. Fear! Russia! Long live the USSR 2.0! http://fishki.net/1247996-amerika-v-panike-da-zdravstvuet-sssr-20.html
    2. 53-Sciborskiy
      53-Sciborskiy 5 March 2014 11: 08
      +35
      What is democracy? This is when the people are the source of power in any country.
      - The American people.
      1. aviator_IAS
        aviator_IAS 5 March 2014 11: 19
        +33
        Quote: 53-Sciborskiy
        What is democracy? This is when the people are the source of power in any country.
        - The American people.

        The American people are also far from power like any other. Even Obama is nothing more than a talking monkey trained by bigwigs of the financial world.
      2. fktrcfylh.h09
        fktrcfylh.h09 5 March 2014 12: 10
        +9
        in fact, this is not a correct translation, since demos is not a "people" in the modern sense of the word, it is a slave owner with certain rights (like a landowner in Russia in the 19th century)
        1. Rider
          Rider 5 March 2014 20: 02
          0
          Quote: fktrcfylh.h09
          in fact, this is not a correct translation, since demos is not a "people" in

          no matter what the translation is,
          since democracy is the power of democrats.

          laughing
          1. alexdol
            alexdol 5 March 2014 21: 30
            +5
            Rider KZ 'because democracy is the rule of democrats. "
            -------------------------------------------------- ----
            Let me express my opinion on "democracy" here, very briefly:

            NO DEMOCRACY AND NEVER HAPPENED! ALWAYS WAS AND THERE IS ONLY THE POWER OF MONEY!
            And if anyone wants to get acquainted with my reasoning on this topic, I give a link to my lit page, the article is called "On Democracy":
            http://www.stihi.ru/2009/12/19/2817
            1. sasha.28blaga
              sasha.28blaga 6 March 2014 07: 13
              +1
              I completely agree with you. Democracy as well as communism is a utopia. Democracy primarily implies a rule of law, but a rule of law does not exist. there are states seeking a rule of law state. And the greater the desire, the further the law becomes.
    3. zanoza
      zanoza 5 March 2014 11: 21
      +22
      Quote: AVV
      It is impossible to trust the Anglo-Saxons and European politicians in anything, we were convinced of this in practice !!!

      The West constantly acts in accordance with its own notions of the world order, double standards (for itself and for others), aggressive imposition of pseudo-democracy, unceremonious interference in the affairs of any state. To a greater extent, this concerns the United States. That is why we perceive the same facts and events diametrically the opposite is that for us "white" is "black" for them and vice versa. Brain tuning is different. request
      Russia for them is enemy No. 1 - it is concreted in their brains.They don’t listen to us, they don’t hear us, they categorically do not understand us, our opinion is not taken into account.
      But we have bent and will bend our line!
      We must make respect our opinion!
      We can’t be put on our knees!Overdo it!
      We are allergic to fascism, and we will fight with the Nazis and Banderlog in Ukraine.
      1. aleks700
        aleks700 5 March 2014 11: 59
        0
        we can’t be delivered. and the government is not difficult.
      2. sabadg
        sabadg 5 March 2014 14: 40
        +2
        why haven’t you figured out the freak-Bely so far?
    4. fktrcfylh.h09
      fktrcfylh.h09 5 March 2014 12: 07
      +1
      that is, the real support of the population has done its job, but not yet completely ..
      1. INTER
        INTER 5 March 2014 12: 35
        +8
        The next rational steps to dominate Russia in this key region: 1. Step. Russia has a pro-Russian population in Crimea, authorities and an army have been practically created, economic integration is underway, to strengthen these positions so that it can be governed as its own region, say, the Krasnodar Territory. 2. Step. Consolidation around the newly created center of all Eastern regions, the transition from the slogans "5-7 million Russians" "Russians do not abandon Russians" to "fraternal people" "We do not abandon our own" "We will rid our Ukrainian brothers of Nazism", this should strike on all fronts ... 3.Step. Prevent the United States from dividing the country because in general, they do not care how much territory they have, but the fact that bases are located near the borders of the Russian Federation. 3. Step. Under the control of the East, in the West, to carry out actions of social tension and demoralization of the ideals of a new revolution, the removal of sheep's skins from wolves and PR of those who will soon need to be put on a vacant position. 4. Step. The final stage. Change of state power. Further, according to interests, accession to the Russian Federation or deep integration and 80-90% dependence on the Russian Federation.
        1. Igor39
          Igor39 5 March 2014 16: 10
          +2
          INTER
          You forgot to add that now it is necessary to increase the shock potential of the Black Sea Fleet and when changing the status of Crimea, take the rent from the Ukrainian Armed Forces or ask them from there.
    5. Millavellor
      Millavellor 5 March 2014 13: 27
      +14
      - Hitler was told in hell that Russia is sending troops to Ukraine, and Germany is against. He laughed, cried, and now wants to shoot himself again.
      1. does it
        does it 5 March 2014 20: 42
        +2
        Quote: Millavellor
        Hitler was told in hell that Russia was sending troops to Ukraine, and Germany was against. He laughed, cried, and now wants to shoot himself again.
    6. brelok
      brelok 5 March 2014 14: 06
      0
      Yes ... full discharge of maidowns
    7. sabadg
      sabadg 5 March 2014 14: 42
      0
      it’s strange for me that until now the lawsuit has not been filed with the organizers of the war in Libya’s IRAQ .. it’s all like water off a duck ... but the wars were fake and led to the ruin of normal states ... in Ukraine, they won’t give them a ride do the same
      1. Rider
        Rider 5 March 2014 20: 05
        +2
        Quote: sabadg
        it’s strange for me that so far no lawsuit has been filed with the organizers of the war in Iraq’s Libya

        sue the judges? ..
    8. nycsson
      nycsson 5 March 2014 18: 33
      +2
      I look at everything that is happening in Ukraine - it’s just a DISASTER of our foreign policy activity:
      1. The Yankees said they would give a loan on the conditions that Kiev would allow them to deploy their missile defense in Ukraine. And Yatsenyuk said that we supposedly agreed on everything, since we have no other choice.
      2. Today they introduced the bill in joy of joining NATO.
      Well and so on, the more you read in nete, the more hair becomes on end. And all this is a consequence of the incompetent policies of the last several decades. How could you buy into their sweet speeches? Cut submarines, rockets and much more! But how could the army be reformed so much that almost nothing was left of it ?!

      I do not want to make any forecasts for the future, but all of central and western Ukraine is lost for us in every sense. So they have at least already completed their program.
      And it is not yet known how the confrontation in the east and south of Ukraine will end .....
      1. c3r
        c3r 5 March 2014 22: 21
        0
        Well, let's just not be accepted into NATO at NATO. If the Mandanites hope that after signing the Bymagi they will have a capable army, then it’s in vain they will appear on paper%
        Geyropovtsy are also not stupid as Americans, by the way, just do something% And the Ukrainians guys have so much pathos because the spring is close, but closer to winter there will be less pathos% I think so!
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    10. Stalker
      Stalker 5 March 2014 19: 45
      +2
      You can not trust the Anglo-Saxons and European politicians in anything


      Lithuanian Foreign Minister Linas Linkevicius

      How many of you will trust this purse wallet !! laughing

      He has a viduha like a child who crap !!!
    11. ele1285
      ele1285 5 March 2014 19: 49
      +3
      Quote: AVV
      Only a tough defense of their interests can cool their ardor a little !!!

      Conclusion, kill the impudent Saxon, save Russia
    12. host
      host 5 March 2014 21: 52
      0
      People in the west of Ukraine want to know the truth in order to navigate the world. They need experienced advisers .... Why Russia will not provide support with specialists ????
  2. Grbear
    Grbear 5 March 2014 10: 45
    +20
    What is required to prove. Although they love more when they themselves share and take away.
    It is necessary to hold an official pause without stopping the information (and other) impact. Before the referendum. angry
  3. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 5 March 2014 10: 53
    +25
    from the Don.
    What referendum? Kiev Bobiks are well aware of how this referendum can end, so they are in a hurry to pay for the coup to their sponsors. Pipe-amers, Donbass-Germans, NATO base near Kharkov! All this for 1 billion. Here are such pies!
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 5 March 2014 12: 13
      +10
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      .Pipe-amer,

      And to hell with him this pipe, if it will be in that case
      empty?
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      Donbass Germans

      And who will let them go there?
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      NATO near Kharkov!

      And we will open our base in Cuba!
    2. Suhow
      Suhow 6 March 2014 02: 29
      0
      Here in Ukraine, not everyone agrees with the new course, although after the introduction of your troops there have been fewer such.
  4. Berimor 2
    Berimor 2 5 March 2014 10: 55
    +17
    Some time will pass and I am sure there will be "illegal seizure of power," "illegitimate government," "the right to protect the Russian-speaking population."
  5. Lesnik
    Lesnik 5 March 2014 10: 58
    +24

    Lyapota! A turning point in the information war!
    Information pressure needs to be strengthened! LOSS OF THE DEATH RATE IS SIMILAR !!!!!!

    1. Suhow
      Suhow 6 March 2014 02: 34
      +1
      info-war is already ours. on ukrainian tv now you are occupants. live in Kiev
  6. propolsky
    propolsky 5 March 2014 11: 00
    +16
    Sorry if that happens. But you can’t give up, if you survived in Syria, then even more so, this is our land, watered by the blood of grandfathers twice at 41 and at 44. You need to stand to the last.
    1. waisson
      waisson 5 March 2014 12: 57
      +23
      not a step back people believe in us
      1. waisson
        waisson 5 March 2014 13: 14
        +2
        their answer to us - they do not sleep with propaganda
        1. waisson
          waisson 5 March 2014 13: 15
          +15
          and we will answer in so hi
          1. sabadg
            sabadg 5 March 2014 14: 38
            +1
            very informative drawing .. directly the essence of the process
      2. TAMERLAN 7
        TAMERLAN 7 5 March 2014 13: 31
        +2
        Very true!
      3. sabadg
        sabadg 5 March 2014 14: 39
        +1
        the question is, why is there so little caricature genre used in RUSSIA? because effective in earnest?
      4. Nikita_Pilot
        Nikita_Pilot 6 March 2014 08: 22
        0
        Now the glan to justify their hopes.
  7. erased
    erased 5 March 2014 11: 01
    +17
    It is a pity that Chernigov, Sumy and Poltava surrendered to Bandera’s pack. And the east may well form a union or the South Russian Republic. Taking the flag of the Ukrainian SSR. As an option, of course. And conclude an agreement on mutual assistance and cooperation with the Russian Federation. True, Kiev will remain under the invaders. But so far nothing else is expected.
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 5 March 2014 11: 05
      +14
      Western media [/ quote]
    2. Dimkin
      Dimkin 5 March 2014 12: 47
      0
      What surrendered, then you can return. The main thing now is to make it clear that we will stand our ground to the end!
    3. waisson
      waisson 5 March 2014 13: 01
      +5
      But it could be different
    4. alexng
      alexng 5 March 2014 13: 18
      +2
      I do not want to procrastinate. but used to relate to predictions without any attention, but here is one of those from the Chinese lama ...
      "The southeastern part of Ukraine will become part of Russia, the middle part will join the renewed Union (probably the Customs Union), and the western part will break away and go under the patronage of Poland." Somewhere like that.
      Although I would not want this long-suffering country to fall apart, but there are so many who want just the outcome described above. Let's hope the predictor made a mistake. hi
      1. VIPER
        VIPER 5 March 2014 21: 24
        0
        give zapadentsev-Poland, then they will conquer
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  8. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 5 March 2014 11: 07
    +1
    And how do you sing when these banderlogs come to you !!!
    1. Yura
      Yura 5 March 2014 12: 05
      +4
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      And how do you sing when these banderlogs come to you !!!

      We’ll get a double-barreled shotgun, and then we’ll use the already captured one.
      1. sabadg
        sabadg 5 March 2014 14: 36
        +2
        why double-barrels .. the referendum will show everything ... who wants to go to Europe as a janitor and who wants to be their own land ... Yulia and the Oligarchoids really need the EU ... but for ordinary citizens this is a question
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 5 March 2014 12: 07
      +2
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      And how do you sing when these banderlogs come to you !!!

      Well, Europe is not used to it, many have not forgotten the old marches either, the only thing that is interesting is how they will deal with the Islamists - they just won’t give up their feeder for no reason.
    3. yan
      yan 5 March 2014 12: 33
      +3
      And how do you sing when these banderlogs come to you !!!
      we carry them back, And as usual, "To Europe-on a tank." And Poplar was launched here in the Astrakhan region ...
    4. waisson
      waisson 5 March 2014 13: 07
      +18
      now and then
      1. waisson
        waisson 5 March 2014 13: 10
        +12
        here's another topic hi
      2. 1Andrei
        1Andrei 5 March 2014 18: 39
        +1
        some deja vu.
  9. Alexey M
    Alexey M 5 March 2014 11: 08
    +16
    The east of Ukraine is behind us, the Crimea is behind us, Odessa is behind us. Let Western Ukraine swell from hunger and take loans from the IMF. After a year, the Maidan will only be in the other direction again.
    1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 5 March 2014 12: 29
      +9
      Well, if everything is more or less clear with Crimea, then the east is still in doubt. Russian-speaking activity is clearly weak. There is still no clear leader.
    2. TAMERLAN 7
      TAMERLAN 7 5 March 2014 12: 40
      +20
      Then there will be a second Maidan ....
      These will shoot all the dissatisfied. They’re not Yanukovych, they won’t tremble. Yes, and this Maidan was not, if someone had the mind (and there was no need to shoot). No militia, robberies began, cordon off everything, do not let anyone or anything inside, and whoever leaves, put them in until they are found to be involved in the robberies. Dry closets clogged up, people froze and hungry - three days and the end of the revolution! Only this had to be done on time and the president should not be a rag! Which is better: ten corpses then or the devil knows how many now and tomorrow (including Maidan)? You can’t put a rag at the head of state!
    3. regsSSSR
      regsSSSR 5 March 2014 19: 32
      +3
      Quote: Alexey M
      The east of Ukraine is behind us, the Crimea is behind us, Odessa is behind us. Let Western Ukraine swell from hunger and take loans from the IMF. After a year, the Maidan will only be in the other direction again.


      WILL NOT BE! because they will already have democracy winked and this means that the police of Maidan will already be able to beat shoot and kill and put in jail for 30 years!
      democracy after all understand laughing and her jokes are bad!
  10. Committee
    Committee 5 March 2014 11: 08
    +3
    Yes, this is a chance. A chance to finally beat the "partners" in the information war. But even having a combat-ready contingent at hand, it’s more fun to talk.
    1. 341712
      341712 5 March 2014 12: 43
      +2
      I will say a little paraphrasing AlCapone: A polite word and a Kalashnikov assault rifle are better than just a polite word " bully
  11. Manager
    Manager 5 March 2014 11: 10
    +7
    EPRST! Yes, it’s clear to the horse that Klitschko and his little whiskers sold all of Ukraine. To whom is gas and to whom is coal, etc. And when the time came to enter into legal rights, then it was unexpected and the people in the South rebelled and mother Russia spoiled all the cards with them.
  12. Bresh
    Bresh 5 March 2014 11: 11
    +15
    I still can’t believe that Crimea will actually be Russian, something will finally begin to be built there, the trains will start up normal ... For 20 years it hasn’t been in my head, how is it possible that Crimea-Ukraine, Thanks to the GDP for such a joy!
  13. moremansf
    moremansf 5 March 2014 11: 11
    +16
    The ardor faded, Russia behaves calmly and with restraint, Putin gave a detailed and clear press conference, the population of Crimea and the South-East for the most part expressed their attitude to the "new government" and Russia ... The West's expectations did not come true, many politicians began to soberly assess the situation in Ukraine, and of course the media, following them, begins to change the emphasis of their publications, so as not to lose rating ...
  14. Gagarin
    Gagarin 5 March 2014 11: 12
    +26
    The frightening thing is that while "these" are sitting in Kiev, they will conclude THAT there ... they will have to clean the stables for a long time!
    1. maxcor1974
      maxcor1974 5 March 2014 11: 37
      +4
      All agreements that they can "conclude" can be easily denounced at the right time, because they were concluded with illegitimate authority. That is why the West is not in a hurry to help the "democrats" with money, because they can throw!
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    3. Borz
      Borz 5 March 2014 11: 45
      +27
      "These" came in earnest and for a long time. If the people subsequently want to "clean the stables", then, unlike Yanyk, they will not stand on ceremony - there will be violent crackdowns, water cannons, and prison sentences. Already now we are who advocate federalization and the exit from the power of Nazi Kiev (I did not think that someday I would say this), they are called separatists and persecuted in every possible way.
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 5 March 2014 12: 31
        +5
        Borz .... ".. there will be violent dispersals, and water cannons, and prison terms ..."
        Not sure.
        There will be executions on the spot - according to the American method.
        Water cannons - only directly into the mouth. So that the "infection", as they say, was immediately kicked out with water.
        Timing, yes. Of course they will. But not for long. Until the first night in the cell. And there, an unexpected fall from the bunk, but just the kidneys on a wooden bench.
        .
        All this has already happened. Pinochet, for example. Pol Pot also had it. At Guantanamo, still. In CIA prisons in Poland and Lithuania.
        And in Kiev - also already exists, right? In the Mikhailovsky Monastery.
        Well .... still under development.
        .
        Your nickname is ... "Wolf" ..or just Borz ... th. This is for interest.
        1. Olegovi4
          Olegovi4 5 March 2014 14: 22
          +2
          Quote: Igarr
          Your nickname is ... "Wolf" ..or just Borz ... th. This is for interest.

          so you would have fully developed the topic, from what language is a borzoi a wolf. those. Comrade is in the know. apparently there is a connection.
          1. Borz
            Borz 5 March 2014 16: 34
            0
            It has nothing to do with the Chechen symbol or a home-made submachine gun. The character and abbreviation.
        2. Borz
          Borz 5 March 2014 16: 31
          +3
          Yes. Restless I. I love justice and I can’t hide it. Greyhound, in a word.
  15. Energy
    Energy 5 March 2014 11: 12
    +4
    The main wars are now taking place in the media - they form the point of view. It is important in the current situation to always keep your finger on the pulse. For the sake of interest, yesterday I visited a couple of forums in Lvov and Transcarpathia - you read it - it's just horror what they write about Russia, the intervention in Crimea, the President of the Russian Federation ... How the American fleet and strikes on the bases of the Black Sea Fleet await ... About the brave Ukrainian military, who oppose the "gangs" of disguised Russian military ... I advise you to visit))) The website of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine is also very curious ...
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 5 March 2014 11: 26
      +9
      Quote: Energetic
      in Lviv and Transcarpathia - you read - it's just awful what they write there ... How the American Navy is waiting there

      Gee! I can hardly imagine how this fleet anchors in Transcarpathia. I have to wait a long time! laughing
      1. Igarr
        Igarr 5 March 2014 12: 37
        +8
        No, he writes the truth.
        Went to that forum, transcarpathia there. Ruthenian site ... http: //transkarpatia.net/
        Half, quite adequate guys.
        The other half is the United States.
        One of them, Highlander, writes - I'll wait for the "additional help" of the American aircraft carrier, gather a hundred thousand Ukrainians, put on the zbrya and go to dismiss Nicholas and Alexander on their belts. Despite the fact that he served during the Soviet Union, and now Russia is his enemy.
        I had to write him a couple of sentences.
        He promised to introduce ... with Nikolai and Alexander. Here, I say, they live nearby. Just a couple of millions.
        So guys, it’s not so simple with people. Such.
        1. TAMERLAN 7
          TAMERLAN 7 5 March 2014 13: 54
          +4
          Transcarpathia is different! You encountered either the Lvov invaders (their settlement of Transcarpathia began in the 1970s), or very backward mountain Hutsuls from the eastern part of Transcarpathia (we call them Hutsuls - we call them hamans)! Mentally, they are inadequate (I do not call names - I state). There are guys in Transcarpathia and for Russia. And most of the indigenous Transcarpathians are Rusyns, Hungarians, Germans, etc., the people are very quiet and peaceful, but they turn to where the wind blows. We and the military from Russia are many (the military airfield was with Mig-29, tank units, missile, a lot of things ....)! True, after the 90s, many left!
        2. Borz
          Borz 5 March 2014 16: 44
          +3
          Somehow I happened to be on a business trip in Transcarpathia, on the Romanian border itself. There was a good impression of communicating (in Russian!) With the locals. Friendly. Hospitable people, but! ... excluding youth.
          1. Igarr
            Igarr 5 March 2014 23: 09
            0
            Guys ... burst my eyes ...
            One ... or rather ... I’m a sucker for you, or ...
            I'm not talking about - Rusyns ....
            I'm not talking about the Carpathians ...
            I’m not talking about anyone .... yes, really, for three years of my stay on the site - someone else has not entered ???
            No - NATIONS !!!! I stand on that.
            There are - interests of narrowly assigned groups !!
            ...
            Jews ... - ho-ho, an ancient people, which, at last, were given. A LOT OF earth. THIS EARTH ... they will die .. but they are separated ..... THIS TIME !!!!
            There is - Great Britain ... They know that everything is seized from them! Paid for everything! It is not for nothing that two centuries their pirates inflicted horror on the entire civilized WORLD.
            This is all the lyrics. And the fact is that England holds the States by the throat. And that’s all ....
            Guys .... burst my eyes ... One eye .. And what remains is that?
            And it remains for you, precious ones, exactly what you are trying to sneak away from ...
            obey someone ...
            ..
            For example, I myself do not know to whom. All these tales of aliens are fuet, in the letter X, in my opinion.
            Who and why and why ... is achieving something .... a mystery to me.
            However, since I work in Gazprom, the same mystery for me ... nafuya Gazprom increases CAPITALIZATION ... of its assets ...
            As if trying to dump them ...
            Damn, guys ...... ask cho easier ...
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  16. Ruff
    Ruff 5 March 2014 11: 13
    +3
    they are like jackals in the Western media, they see who wins - that means they will bark for that.
  17. vorobey
    vorobey 5 March 2014 11: 13
    +20
    Western media, Western media as my wife said - And what will dad say? Sometimes I am amazed at the patience of our Foreign Ministry politicians. From day to day, chewing the same thing, chewing as first graders the basics and truths.

    But there is some sense. and already do not spray with saliva. True ready to share with Russia. It’s necessary to pay for the mess. Only now, as in a good sale, Russia can also bargain.

    I liked how, at the end of all the events, ours also threw a rocket. like the last word is ours.
    1. Vita_vko
      Vita_vko 5 March 2014 11: 23
      +12
      Quote: vorobey
      I liked how, at the end of all the events, ours also threw a rocket. like the last word is ours.

      Right! Yes, and at the Saryshagan training ground in Kazakhstan. Let me just try to stick to us. Everything is shot!
      Thank you relatives, if it weren’t for you and our Nazarbayev, there would have been no Russians here for a long time.
    2. Alex 241
      Alex 241 5 March 2014 12: 27
      +4
      Quote: vorobey
      Western media, Western media as my wife said - And what will dad say? Sometimes I am amazed at the patience of our Foreign Ministry politicians. From day to day, chewing the same thing, chewing as first graders the basics and truths.
  18. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 5 March 2014 11: 15
    +21
    But actually they have long wanted to share it. Especially wanted to pinch a piece (which is fatter, and which is not very) the nearest neighbors in the person of Poland (first and foremost), Romania (this second in the division) and Hungary (the most modest, neither let nor take straight Cinderella) .. .
    And the fact that they scold ... Yes, and let them scold. As Andrei Andreevich Gromyko said:
    "If the West scolds us, then we are doing everything right"...
    1. Lesnik
      Lesnik 5 March 2014 11: 17
      +5
      Quote: Chicot 1
      But actually they have long wanted to share it. Especially wanted to pinch a piece (which is fatter, and which is not very) the nearest neighbors in the person of Poland (first and foremost), Romania (this second in the division) and Hungary (the most modest, neither let nor take straight Cinderella) .. .
      And the fact that they scold ... Yes, and let them scold. As Andrei Andreevich Gromyko said:
      "If the West scolds us, then we are doing everything right"...


      Krasava +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
      1. Igor39
        Igor39 5 March 2014 16: 29
        +3
        It’s good that Putin has iron eggs, does what he sees fit, balanced, thoughtful moves, then he listens to the squeal of packs and again for his ...
        The West has long respected Putin, just shy about it openly repeat
  19. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 5 March 2014 11: 16
    +39
    However, it is noted that the annexation of the Crimea is not necessarily the final goal of Putin: rather, the plan is to pursue a broad autonomy within Ukraine, the “unofficial protectorate”. It is impossible not to notice the almost admiring tone of the article, despite the fact that anti-Russian rhetoric is more characteristic of this magazine.

    Better is the broadest autonomy of Crimea and an "unofficial protectorate" over Ukraine, in order to rid it of the Bandera nationalists once and for all.
    1. predator.3
      predator.3 5 March 2014 11: 42
      +11
      Quote: Corsair5912
      Better is the broadest autonomy of Crimea and an "unofficial protectorate" over Ukraine, in order to rid it of the Bandera nationalists once and for all.


      And why did he chop off Moldova? lol
      1. maxcor1974
        maxcor1974 5 March 2014 12: 06
        +20
        Having established a protectorate over Moldova, the Transnistrian Republic requested accession to the Autonomous Republic of Crimea! laughing
        1. Mi
          Mi 5 March 2014 21: 58
          +3
          +100500 class !!! rzhunimagu!
          For some reason it seems to me that very competent analysts advise GDP ... How did they hide them from the liberals ?! or left with the USSR? Tigers like Evgeny Maksimovich Primakov (God bless him with health) are still alive, they probably help from old memory, from friendship
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      3. lelikas
        lelikas 5 March 2014 12: 09
        +11
        Quote: predator.3
        And why did he chop off Moldova?

        For good reason, so you don’t have to redo the map :).
        1. predator.3
          predator.3 5 March 2014 15: 09
          0
          Quote: lelikas
          For good reason, so you don’t have to redo the map :).

          Well, yes, one hell in Russia
      4. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 5 March 2014 13: 29
        +5
        Quote: predator.3
        And why did he chop off Moldova?


        Yes, let it be, Moldovans are also not a stranger to the people.
      5. yur
        yur 5 March 2014 19: 05
        +1
        Quote: predator.3
        And why did he chop off Moldova?
        And to BULO!
    2. krpmlws
      krpmlws 5 March 2014 12: 19
      +2
      Let them place their bases in the yellow territory, we don’t feel sorry, but we don’t dare to open our mouths in the blue, otherwise Uncle Vova is contemplating.
    3. Igarr
      Igarr 5 March 2014 12: 46
      +7
      Ah yes Corsair 5912, ah yes ... you know yourself.
      Moldova ...
      What about Romania? Hungary? Slovakia? Poland?
      Give ARC - "from can to can" !!! within the boundaries of the Slavs of the 5th century.
      1. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 5 March 2014 13: 33
        0
        USA and EU do not mind the autonomy of Crimea, so why are shy?
    4. aleks 62
      aleks 62 5 March 2014 14: 12
      +1
      The map is impressive !!!!! But unfortunately a little inaccurate ... Kirovograd. Sumy, Poltava, Chernihiv and some others are unlikely ....
    5. Nikita_Pilot
      Nikita_Pilot 6 March 2014 08: 28
      0
      And that we will capture Moldova soldier or yourself to lodge yourself. repeat
  20. scientist
    scientist 5 March 2014 11: 16
    +12
    I’m sure that if Russia will consistently defend its position based on international law in all Western media, then soon many American and European politicians will have to justify on what basis they support and finance an illegitimate government that seized power as a result of a military coup, as well as fascist and nationalist organizations.
    And all this is a consequence of the compromise that Medvedev made after the operation in South Ossetia to force Georgia to peace. The charges of genocide of the Ossetian people and war crimes of Georgian troops were dropped. These half-hearted measures led to the fact that a number of Western politicians decided that they were afraid of nothing, and their Bandera puppets felt their impunity. After all, the main culprit of war crimes Saakashvili is now spitting saliva in Kiev and wants revenge, although investigators and prison guards have been waiting for him in Georgia for a long time.
    Therefore, now the moment of truth has come, if the West cannot be firmly put in place, then a series of coups d'etat, financing and support of nationalist organizations (which impersonate national patriots, but actually propagandize fascism) both in Russia and its closest allies have never to end.
  21. 787nkx
    787nkx 5 March 2014 11: 17
    +2
    Looks like the section has already begun.
    Posted on: http: //nag.ru/news/newsline/24981/problemyi-ukrtelekoma-v-kryimu-prodoljayuts
    ya.html

    Ukrtelecom's problems in Crimea continue
    Publication Date: 04.03.2014
    Number of views: 591
    Posted by: homo proponit
    The Crimean division of Ukrtelecom, which reported on Friday, February 28, about the seizure of communication centers and damage to the company's fiber-optic trunk cables, on Saturday afternoon published information on the restoration of communications. However, by the evening of the same day, the key communication centers of Ukrtelecom were again blocked by armed people. The company stated the impossibility in such conditions to maintain the network in working condition.

    On Monday, March 3, the situation remained unchanged: the access of Ukrtelecom specialists to their own equipment is difficult. At the same time, the Internet Association of Ukraine claims that there are no problems in providing Internet access on the peninsula. Also, without interruption, mobile communications are working, the load on which has grown by an average of 20%.

    At the same time, the seizure of equipment and damage to the communication lines of Ukrtelecom caused concern of the Internet Association of Ukraine. On Monday, March 3, the association, which includes more than 150 information technology companies of the country, sent a letter to the acting President and Prime Minister. The letter expresses distrust of the National Commission for the Regulation of Communications and Information, which, in particular, fully supported the “anti-constitutional, criminal laws of January 16.01.2014, XNUMX”, while the necessary legal acts, in the opinion of the association, are deliberately slowed down.

    The preamble of the appeal reads: “Its inactivity, which borders on criminal negligence, and self-removal from the fate of the country, NKRSI has shown in recent days, when, being in fact the only formed governing body in the field of telecommunications and communications, did not take effective measures to stabilize the situation with illegal communication systems in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea ". The text of the letter contains a detailed analysis of the activities of the National Commission, which the Internet Association accuses of trying to impede "free, competitive activities of business entities in the field of telecommunications." The letter contains a demand for "full lustration" of the National Commission for the Regulation of Communications and Information.

    In addition, the general director of the telecommunication company Datagroup Alexandra Danchenko addressed an open letter to all Ukrainian telecom operators and regulatory bodies. In it, he drew attention not only to the situation of the seizure of communication centers in the Crimea, but also directly accused the National Commission of creating preferences for operators of neighboring states to the detriment of national telecom companies: “I also appeal to the regulator and other regulatory bodies: how long will we not be able to protect their interests? Why over the past three days, unknown persons associated with a neighboring state have been blocking, shutting down, destroying equipment of Ukrainian operators? However, in recent years, some operators from neighboring countries have been operating on the Ukrainian market without licenses, causing economic harm to both the state and national operators. Maybe it's time to pay attention to the situation and begin to protect the rights of Ukrainian operators? ”
  22. pensioner
    pensioner 5 March 2014 11: 17
    +2
    Thirdly, the "Right Sector". Freedom fighters rather quickly turned into marginal extremists, and then completely into aggressive fascists who dreamed of blood.

    Well ... Now we are waiting in -fourth, in -fifth, in-sixth and seventh. yes Be patient and wait. wink
  23. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol 5 March 2014 11: 18
    +13
    GDP correctly said: If the Revolution took place in Ukraine, then the result is the New State.
    And no matter how much the "new leadership" "ached", it "screwed up" the Country of Ukraine with its direct actions. The whole Ukraine will no longer be, and this fact can already be measured.
    The Yugoslavian variant passed. Only the "selling gopota" in BP cannot understand this in any way.
    The East of Ukraine will choose a Federation, Crimea will definitely choose a Federation. But the West "will" reap the "fruits" of its stupidity, sitting without money, without Gas, without Enterprises, But with "Naked European value" ...
    1. 787nkx
      787nkx 5 March 2014 11: 31
      +1
      East of Ukraine will choose Federation

      I do not share your confidence.
      The East is clearly not formulated in such requirements.
      1. stariy
        stariy 5 March 2014 14: 37
        0
        Quote: 787nkx
        The East is clearly not formulated in such requirements

        Until it's evening
  24. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 5 March 2014 11: 18
    +8
    Everyone here says Ukraine, Ukraine, and what is Ukraine for the West? A friend, an enemy or just a weapon aimed at the chest of Russia. You will not ask the gun if he wants to shoot or not.
  25. Gxash
    Gxash 5 March 2014 11: 21
    +4
    What are they two-faced ...

    At first they charm on what the light is worth, but as soon as it was not something that smelled fried, someone told someone that Putin had gone to the barbecue and immediately V.V. white and fluffy, and his policy is the most correct, and the power in Kiev is no longer any power, and so is a bunch of Nazis ...
  26. Denis fura
    Denis fura 5 March 2014 11: 24
    +7
    Like a very large part of Russians, I have relatives in Ukraine (Odessa, Khmelnitsky region, and the most interesting thing is in Lviv), in this regard, the situation there has already bored me, I ate it "to the full", I correspond with my second cousin in Lviv, I'm tired of something to prove and debate, the "armor" is there for the whole head and you can't break it.
    Here's what they write about Crimea and the historical background of the transfer of the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in Ukraine (the text is in Ukrainian, you’ll understand the general meaning), they sent me to my statement that Khrushchev was still the same:

    Without a doubt, the decision about the transfer of the Krimsk region from the warehouse of the Russian Federal Social Democratic Republic to the URSR was blamed on the “collective thoughts” of the main party of the SRSR. Without the participation of the old Stalinist guards - Malenkov, Molotov, Kaganovich, Voroshilov, Bulganin - it’s out of the question.

    That is why the prince is not a “fellow of the drunk Khrushchov”, as it seems at a time of the Russian chauvinism. Khrushchov’s position in the party and powers did not mean that they were strong, so that they could spontaneously violate the share of such a strategically important region, like Yak Krim. And that’s why I’m trying to understand the criticism and the fact that I haven’t come across a long-standing document that doesn’t need to be criticized. zrobiti yakush the servant of Ukraine. Moreover, in the current documents about the whole dumbness, there are puzzles about the 1954 riches of Pereyaslavsky for the sake of a certain, first of all, the whole “twin car” bullet is timed out. Tse bula zhorstka ekonomіchna neobhodimnost ...

    Even navigating at the warehouse of the Russian Federation of Social Democratic Republics, the Krimsk region was deprived of economic space in Ukraine. Salt and energy complex, metallurgy, machinery and equipment are easy to operate, indoor transport in Ukraine and Krima are actually boules of one. Until 1954, Ukraine had given Krimska oblast great support in industrial production, industrial plants and factories, and in water supply problems and work problems. The axis wrote “Krimska Pravda” on 17 September 1954: “Ukrainians do not remain in debt. They actively help Crimeans build beautiful cities and resorts, and develop industrial production. Powerful domestic mechanisms and equipment are coming from Ukraine to the construction sites of the heroic city of Sevastopol and the resort Yalta. The capital of Ukraine - Kiev sends powerful mechanical loaders, automatic metering devices for concrete plants here; Kharkov provides tower and electric bridge cranes, tractors, etc. ”

    From now on, on the most part of the vivcheneniya of explicit materials, a visovka is needed, but a decision on the transfer of the Krimsk region to Ukraine from the main center of the Soviet Socialist Republic was sighted in 1953 - on the cob of 1954 rock. In the course of the sale, the robot was busy preparing. An intensive and ideological work was also carried out from the preparation of krimchan to zmіn. Itself at a time at the side of the Crimean Presidency and Ukrainian topics. Publications in “Krimska Pravda”, a co-ordinated organ of the Republic of Moldova, endlessly say goodbye to the cob of preparation of a huge thought.

    Otozh, after the proper passage of the “Krimsky food” according to all instances in the Russian Federation of Social Democratic Republic and in the URSR and the final negotiation of it in the Supreme Verkhovna Rada for the SRSR, the Presidency of the Verkhovna Rada for the 19rd SSR in unanimously transferred to the Russian SSR .


    Well, how do you like that? can you convince and explain something?
    1. Neophyte
      Neophyte 5 March 2014 11: 46
      +4
      Really, it's hard to argue! I have in Ternopol
      relatives so duped by the media that speak
      it’s useless to them. Time will set everything up, they will begin
      understand when the famine comes to Ukraine.
      There, they think that the West will help them and tomorrow they are all
      get a chic house, bank account, etc. Full scribe!
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  27. konvalval
    konvalval 5 March 2014 11: 24
    +2
    Remember where white America came from and where black went. All answers are in this.
    1. Ustian
      Ustian 5 March 2014 12: 37
      +5
      Quote: konvalval
      Remember where white America came from and where black went. All answers are in this.

      It doesn’t matter, of course, but America was originally Red yes
    2. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 5 March 2014 13: 03
      +6
      Black America just did not disappear. Destroyed the Indians. And black America is slowly squeezing white. Another couple of decades and in America, black gentlemen will kick in the ass of white slaves.
      1. MBA78
        MBA78 6 March 2014 10: 43
        0
        it seems that these "blacks" were drawn to the black sea
  28. parusnik
    parusnik 5 March 2014 11: 33
    +4
    the imposition of sanctions on the Russian economy ..We put on this overlay .. And so on the article and the situation .. as in a children's poem .. it began to wave its wings, the sea began to go out and go out .. All this will go out .. The USA is indignant because they were circled around the finger, once again ..
    1. gfs84
      gfs84 5 March 2014 12: 45
      +5
      There are no wings, here a full-fledged storm is approaching the states:

      The Federation Council is developing a bill that provides for the confiscation of property, assets and accounts of European and American companies, including private ones, if sanctions are applied to Russia. “The bill involves empowering the president and the government to protect our sovereignty from assassination,” said RIA Novosti, the author of the upcoming bill, the head of the Federation Council committee on constitutional law, Andrei Klishas. According to him, lawyers “carefully study the issue” to what extent such a possible confiscation of assets and accounts of foreign companies, including private as well as private individuals, complies with the Russian Constitution.

      “But we do not doubt that this clearly corresponds to European standards. It’s enough to recall the example of Cyprus, when confiscation became, in fact, one of the conditions for providing assistance to the country from the European Union, ”the senator said. He specified that such measures are planned to be prescribed in a separate federal law. “Any sanctions should be mutual,” said Andriy Klishas.

      Today, the meetings will be with groups of various lobbyists - they did not expect this, now they will pinch in the groin area))))
      1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
        Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 5 March 2014 13: 05
        +2
        The idea is essentially not bad. Even if the bill is not put up for discussion, the fact of its appearance will cool many hotheads in the US and geyrop.
      2. parus2nik
        parus2nik 5 March 2014 13: 45
        +1
        Well it’s quite logical ...
    2. brelok
      brelok 5 March 2014 14: 30
      +1
      Quote: parusnik
      by imposing sanctions on the Russian economy .. We put on this imposition .. And so on the article and the situation .. as in a children's poem .. it began to wave its wings, the sea began to go out and go out .. All this goes out .. The USA is outraged because they circled around the finger, once again ..

      Obama reconnaissance bonfire on than light. An official investigation has appointed
  29. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 5 March 2014 11: 40
    +3
    Only one money for more and geysvoboda.
    The states then live together, their 51 states and one president, they don’t go to the anthem, Iraqis, Serbs, Yugoslavs, Poles, British, Chinese, and the like, to make revolutions there, etc., we can if we are scattered on the basis of these then we will not be anyone! and they all will be imperials, no, to hell with a garlic head in your anal, people be prudent, they only want to quarrel and smash us, remember my word, then we are only power when they are united and this will be our independence from these banderlogs and packs blue dogs, only the complete removal from the power of gays and their policies, we will live as people, but not as neighbors with our dolbon independence. Drive everyone from our lands all offspring and all mongrels like amers and their lovers eu.
  30. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 5 March 2014 11: 41
    +10
    I really want the southeast to make a real statement. But unfortunately, it is not very good so far. When the last rallies in Kharkov and Odessa were shown, it was clear how small they were. Unfortunately, people are waiting for a roasted cock to bite them. In my opinion, they will really stir when the enterprises stop working and Aifon’s proposals for loans and gas supply are stupid. All the same, everything will go to the oligarchs to support their enterprises, and they will forcibly deduct from the salaries of workers what they are already doing. All this concern for ordinary people is false, ordinary people should understand that without their participation, nothing will change and no one will do anything for them. Therefore, economic assistance is stupid. The ideology of the consumer society has already done its job; everything reaches the majority only through the stomach.
    1. revnagan
      revnagan 5 March 2014 13: 03
      +4
      Quote: 1c-inform-city
      ordinary people should understand that without their participation, nothing will change and no one will do anything for them.

      This is understandable. But it is also understandable that under the capitalism of ordinary people, no one will allow any participation and influence on the affairs of the country. We have been accustomed to this for 23 years. The "Maidan" revolution happened because it was PERMITTED to happen. sectors "were created and financed by the same Kolomoisky. Any self-organization of citizens leads in the end to the advancement of socialist, leftist ideas and demands. No power under the current system will tolerate this. The Nazis (the power of capital) are much closer and more understandable in ideology. the movement in Ukraine will be able to gain strength only with outside help, as it was in 1917. Only a strong and organized left movement that DOES NOT THREAT YOUR INITIATORS can break the neck of the brown plague. And only after the "hangover" comes at the sight of the fact that heaped up the new government.
      1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
        Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 5 March 2014 13: 12
        +3
        In addition: REN TV, in its news release, published a link to the Western media, where another former CIA officer said that the United States spent five billion (!) Greens on the organization of the Maidan alone. A good figure, especially in comparison with the one that they are ready to provide Ukraine as a mate. Help!
        1. parus2nik
          parus2nik 5 March 2014 13: 47
          +1
          Here are Maidan workers these 5 billion and work out
  31. Naum
    Naum 5 March 2014 11: 41
    +12
    Guys, the hangover hasn't started there yet. The fascist "booze" is in full swing. Geyropa with the Americans gave birth to a monster that they still have to cope with. I feel sorry for Ukraine, but you have to pay for everything in this life, incl. and for the madness.
    And how well it all started! I remember in 91 I watched Ukrainian programs on TV (I live 30 km from the border with the Donetsk region, so there were endless joyful dance songs: "We are infected! We are sick! ! Gop-gop-gop! .. "And then suddenly they themselves went to us en masse. First with" kravchuchkas "(cars on two wheels). Then with" kuchmuchkas "- these are already on four with a higher carrying capacity. To us they dragged their small stuff, fish and ... bacon from us! When the customs started working, the process came to naught. Somehow it didn't work out without Russia ... It was the first sobering up. Then the gas wars began, Tuzlov's shame. * Ali became more and more “klyatyms.” The process went on without interruption. Now we are reaping the fruits of it and we will reap the benefits for a long time ...
  32. made13
    made13 5 March 2014 11: 42
    +6
    Trouble came to Ukraine, Crimea - for many years young people were brainwashed, and everyone else was flooded with conflicting information, including on the Second World War. This is the result of the lack of state policy on the education of youth, patriotism and love for the Motherland. In Ukraine, all of this has now been successfully replaced by "European" values. No one can list these values ​​in kilograms and meters. sad
    1. Vedmed_23
      Vedmed_23 5 March 2014 12: 58
      +1
      These values ​​are measured in dollars and euros, how much to give and how much to squeeze the gentlemen from the United States and the geyrops perfectly measured.
  33. Dazdranagon
    Dazdranagon 5 March 2014 11: 43
    +14
    1. There is no invasion of Ukraine, Putin was only allowed to send troops in case of aggression against the Russian-speaking population.
    2. The support of the "new government" by Western leaders shows how they possess a legal education.
    3. Arturchik 24-year-old pleased. It is easy to rinse the brain. Believes in shale gas ...
    4. 6 thousand units of aircraft - someone doesn’t have double vision, but even 20 is rubbing ... Well, nothing, let them be afraid.
    5. Germany pleases, apparently remembered from where the gas goes!
    PS Hold on, brotherly people! I believe that Putin will not leave you! Break through!
  34. NBN
    NBN 5 March 2014 11: 46
    +12
    Do not look for the truth in the actions of the States. This is war. Cold, economic, diplomatic, etc. They act according to the rules of their wars (remember the Indians) - that is, without rules.
  35. nemec55
    nemec55 5 March 2014 11: 48
    +12
    But this is not the limit. Russia itself may be on the verge of a humanitarian crisis - hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians flee to Russia,

    Bullshit ... Russia is capable of absorbing millions of refugees (swallows and won’t notice) and it will only be to its benefit. Remember Catherine II and Prince Potemkin how they did a great job for the Germans to move to the Volga region When the Germans found themselves in Germany it was too late ( people escaped) and Russia just licked her lips and smiled and swallowed all this working mass only for her own good.
  36. yurik
    yurik 5 March 2014 11: 49
    +2
    Well, everyone already knows that Ukraine is a Failed state. Russians do not want to live together in the east and Ukrobandera in the west. the latter, due to their lack of industry, needs developed eastern lands as a bloodsucking parasite, its victim. therefore, the separation of Ukraine is necessary to put an end to internal discord once and for all and give each one their own: Russians in the east to work peacefully for their own benefit, and ukrobenders to step through torchlight processions in the West for EU handouts.
    1. TAMERLAN 7
      TAMERLAN 7 5 March 2014 15: 21
      +6
      Quote: yurik
      to give each his own: Russians in the east to work peacefully for their own good, and ukrobenders to walk torchlight processions in their own west
      Eureka, did you forget Hitler?
      He, too, peacefully walked in the west, until he came to us!
      How many times do you need to step on a rake so that an understanding that IT must be nipped in the bud. Maybe the non-aggression agreement is bungled and we’ll sleep peacefully on the stove in the den! Yurik, wake up, the trouble has come - do not lie down on the barrel, sleepyhead!
  37. darksoul
    darksoul 5 March 2014 11: 50
    +12
    Democracy is when a Russian soldier comes. Unfortunately, only such a democracy is understood in the West. All discussions about right and wrong are past their ears, demagogy, double standards. The position of the power of self-confident Russia is the only thing they are afraid of and, as we see, they don’t know how to react to it
  38. batia72
    batia72 5 March 2014 11: 54
    +6
    it is necessary to issue leaflets for Europe as in the days of the Great Patriotic War: for example, America is the number one terrorist and a photo with US crimes.
  39. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 5 March 2014 11: 56
    +3
    ... Russia itself may be on the verge of a humanitarian crisis - hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians flee to Russia, fearing for their lives ...

    This is not what bothers you, gentlemen, this is not at all.

    In addition to the Russian-speaking, from the new language law suffered Hungarians, Romanians and Moldovans. They also lost their status of official languages ​​in several cities in western Ukraine.

    That's what you are scared laughing And where are they going to run?
    Well, and about the division of Ukraine-it has long been written in bold on your foreheads.
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  41. Platov
    Platov 5 March 2014 12: 01
    0
    I am not a special politician, but everything seems to happen with the knowledge of Vladimir Putin and the bloody Maidan, and polite self-defense employees. It seems he, Putin corrects the deadly mistake of Jankovic. And I pray that everything will turn out for Putin, and the Ukrainians sincerely regret how much grief they have ahead. To what it is necessary to be stupid in order to let thieves and bandits into power. What kind of parliament, which is silent in a rag, and waiting for crumbs from the lordly table to break off, that you should chew on Putin and spread it in your mouth with a spoon, what kind of people this Ukrainian, even self-preservation instinct loses, seeing a carrot on a string ahead . The West that, only now realized that Vladimir Putin stupidly raped him for the purposes of Russia.
  42. Revolver
    Revolver 5 March 2014 12: 01
    +7
    The Germans and that behave more decently than Banderlog. And Obama, too, do not understand what the crap is. But ask if I am ashamed of him, and I will answer: "No, not ashamed. I did not vote for him either the first or the second time." And in general, I hope that this public flogging of Obama by Putin will lead to the loss of the votes of shitty people in November.
  43. GOGY
    GOGY 5 March 2014 12: 03
    +2
    Quote: darksoul
    Democracy is when a Russian soldier comes. Unfortunately, only such a democracy is understood in the West. All discussions about right and wrong are past their ears, demagogy, double standards. The position of the power of self-confident Russia is the only thing they are afraid of and, as we see, they don’t know how to react to it

    You can come, not the first time
  44. GOGY
    GOGY 5 March 2014 12: 03
    +9
    Quote: darksoul
    Democracy is when a Russian soldier comes. Unfortunately, only such a democracy is understood in the West. All discussions about right and wrong are past their ears, demagogy, double standards. The position of the power of self-confident Russia is the only thing they are afraid of and, as we see, they don’t know how to react to it

    You can come, not the first time
  45. Mhpv
    Mhpv 5 March 2014 12: 03
    +4
    On Sunday, Secretary of State Kerry already threatened with tough measures. The US also wants to harmonize sanctions with EU countries to maximize efficiency,

    The second Americans do not take into account one thing, that the Russians have not yet forgotten how to support themselves even on the 6 hundredths.
    But this is not the limit. Russia itself may be on the verge of a humanitarian crisis - hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians flee to Russia, fearing for their lives.

    Many of these hundreds of thousands have relatives in Russia who will not abandon them, so this is not a humanitarian disaster, if the Germans or Poles fled to us then yes, and since there are many villages in the land, people will be ready to settle them for the peace of their families, and these are our people native to culture and religion.
    1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 5 March 2014 13: 21
      +7
      If millions of Tajiks, poorly, and sometimes just not speaking Russian, have found work in Russia, then Ukrainians who have no problems with the language will find work without problems. Moreover, they are usually more educated and more qualified.
    2. VIPER
      VIPER 5 March 2014 21: 31
      0
      there are relatives and a lot of scary for them
  46. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 5 March 2014 12: 04
    +8
    well, a bit of humor
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 5 March 2014 14: 41
      0
      Quote: sigizmund472
      well, a bit of humor


      Humor decorates life.
      1. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 5 March 2014 19: 57
        0
        Quote: Corsair5912
        Quote: sigizmund472
        well, a bit of humor


        Humor decorates life.


        not clickable ...
  47. Good cat
    Good cat 5 March 2014 12: 06
    +8
    States threaten to kick us out of 8 and announce economic sanctions ?? At last!!! We must be happy! Tired of this, there is nowhere worse.
  48. ed65b
    ed65b 5 March 2014 12: 15
    +12
    With pleasure I will go to the Russian Crimea in the summer and from the heart I will spend my blood rubles there. I think by the summer they will switch to the ruble. drinks
    1. Vedmed_23
      Vedmed_23 5 March 2014 13: 06
      +4
      It’s really better in Crimea. I live in Krasnodar myself, I don’t cry for summer prices on the coast, it’s cheaper to fly to Turkey.
    2. aleks 62
      aleks 62 5 March 2014 14: 18
      +1
      I also think so ... We all see only the beginning of "ballet" ....
    3. nycsson
      nycsson 5 March 2014 18: 39
      +1
      Quote: ed65b
      With pleasure I will go to the Russian Crimea in the summer and from the heart I will spend my blood rubles there. I think by the summer they will switch to the ruble.

      Well yes! With this development of events, if you go there, it’s not as a tourist, but as a rookie.
      Quote: Vedmed_23
      I myself live in Krasnodar, summer prices on the coast of my mother do not worry, it’s cheaper to fly to Turkey.

      Hello fellow countrymen .......
  49. Vol50
    Vol50 5 March 2014 12: 17
    +7
    Geopolitics does not consider the human factor. "The state has no friends and enemies, but only unchanging interests." Lord Bekonsfield. Russia needs Crimea, this is geopolitics, this is the presence of the fleet in the Black Sea and not only. And it will receive it, for this all statements Putin. And in my opinion, bargaining with the West on this issue is already underway. Today the parties will be worn out, tomorrow they will sit at the table to share the pie. Ukraine, however, has been thrown back for decades and has not the best times ahead.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 5 March 2014 14: 34
      +3
      Quote: Vol50
      Geopolitics does not consider the human factor. "The state has no friends and enemies, but only unchanging interests." Lord Bekonsfield. Russia needs Crimea, this is geopolitics, this is the presence of the fleet in the Black Sea and not only. And it will receive it, for this all statements Putin. And in my opinion, bargaining with the West on this issue is already underway. Today the parties will be worn out, tomorrow they will sit at the table to share the pie. Ukraine, however, has been thrown back for decades and has not the best times ahead.

      The Russian fleet on the Black Sea, under an agreement with Ukraine, may remain until the 2042 of the year, so Putin, or rather Russia, does not need Crimea.
      The West has nothing to do with Crimea and Ukraine, and bargaining is not appropriate, these are our Russian affairs, it is time to make this clear to the Yankees and Euros.
      Dozens of years ago Ukraine was rejected not by Russia, but by Ukrainian nationalists, who crawled into the government.
      Instead of establishing political, military and economic ties with Russia, Bandera tried to offend, rob and humiliate the Russians in Ukraine and Russia, with dirty fabrications about the Holodomor, about the "occupation", about the Russian language, etc.
  50. xpen_vam
    xpen_vam 5 March 2014 12: 20
    0
    There are 5 million Russians in Germany! We are oppressed here! Make me speak German! Work for the German economy! Watch German TV! Wear German clothes, drive German cars on German roads! And we want our native Russian mat, fumes, slackness, adrenaline when giving a bribe to an official, our roads and our native Lada! We feel bad here! Vova save us, dear father!