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Where will the Ukrainian army turn?

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Against the background of the attempts of the new authorities in Kiev to strengthen their position by declaring “the fatherland in danger” and forcing military passions, the question arises: are they so sure that the power structures subjected to them to humiliation, including the army, are trying to protect them and identify the interests of the Ukrainian people with them ?


Are the couplers bluffing? Until now, “maydanschiki” blocked the army in the barracks, fearing that it will execute the order of the president-commander in chief to establish constitutional order. After all, according to the Constitution, Viktor Yanukovych to this day remains so. And if suddenly, after leaving the barracks, the military will listen to their formal commander-in-chief? After all, they swore an oath to the president, elected by the people, and no one held the oath-taking ...

On DEBKAfile's site close to the Israeli military intelligence of AMAN, citing sources in this intelligence, it is stated that "there is no confidence in Kiev’s control over the 160-thousandth Ukrainian army." No one knows to whom she will be loyal. There is a possibility that its command may consider the displacement of the coup regime in Kiev as the most reliable defense of the fatherland against war and separatism, due to its complete inability to fulfill its obligations to the country. The military can simply take power into their own hands in order to end the chaos reigning in Ukraine.

The decision of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine to bring the army on high alert and mobilize part of the 1 million reservists Israeli intelligence officers consider little practical, since it only "gives Putin a further reason to continue military expansion." How does the “broken administration in Kiev” intend to feed, equip, arm and provide transport for hundreds of thousands of new troops? And how much can the new regime be sure of their loyalty? According to the Israelis, the most productive for the West would be the removal of the most radical groups in Kiev and the achievement of a compromise with Moscow. Balancing on the brink of war will not lead anywhere. A base for mutual understanding already exists - this is the February 21 agreement.

At the same time, despite the initial extremely militant rhetoric, Kiev is gradually reducing turnover. In Crimea, there was a massive transition of Ukrainian troops to the side of the armed forces of the autonomy. Particularly indicative is the courageous act of Rear Admiral Denis Berezovsky, who swore allegiance to the Crimea on the next day, after he was appointed commander of the Ukrainian Navy by order of the Minister of Defense. There is no noticeable influx of conscripts to the military registration and enlistment offices either, the youth mostly “vote with their feet” towards the border. Therefore, the main “defensive” measures are currently limited mainly to appeals to the West.

However, in addition to demonstrating the growing confusion and complete dependence on the oligarchs Turchinov and Yatsenyuk, the forces on which they relied upon the seizure of power are operating in Ukraine. The world has already circled the statement of one of the most sinister figures of the Maidan, the leader of the Right Sector and Trident named after Stepan Bandera "Dmitry Yarosh that his organization is embarking on the formation of its own armed forces in all regions of the country in order to" ensure its defense. " And this means that attackers hysterical Yarosh will begin to break into the barracks and warehouses with weapons. Actually, this was expected, which was why preemptive actions of Russia followed. And not everywhere the military, in all probability, will be able to give a proper rebuff to the newly-minted Bandera.

It is also disturbing that the power bloc of the putschists were led by an adventurous warehouse, capable, for the sake of their ambitions and radical ideas, to kindle any kind of fire.

Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) - the commandant of the “euromaidan” Andrei Paruby was born in 1971 in Chervonograd, Lviv region. By education, in fact, a historian. However, his knowledge deepened in the field of manipulation technologies at the National University "Lviv Polytechnic". In 1988, he headed the nationalist youth organization Spadshchyna (Heritage). In 1991, along with Oleg, he was one of the founders of the Social-National Party of Ukraine (SNPU), which, because of its close association with German National Socialism, was renamed 2004 into the All-Ukrainian Union Svoboda, remaining ideologically the same pro-fascist. An active participant in the Orange Revolution. During the events of November-December, 2004 was the commandant of the Ukrainian House in Kiev. In the National Security and Defense Council - the main hawk. He tried to declare a state of emergency in Ukraine and a “general mobilization” for the war against the “cursed Muscovites” even before any decision of this body. In addition to the command, the Maidan was also noted by throwing smoke grenades during one of the sessions of the Verkhovna Rada, of which he was a deputy, which is why he was almost prosecuted on charges of terrorism. Sergei Pashinsky, deputy chairman of the Batkivshchyna faction in the Verkhovna Rada, has already accused Andriy Parubiy of financial uncleanliness in dealing with funds allocated “on the Maidan”. Here is a democratic revolutionary.

Defense Minister Igor Tenyukh, by the way, has already received an official reprimand from Turchinov for “viewing” Denis Berezovsky, also a native of Lviv region. That's where the forge of power personnel of the new regime has moved! At one time he graduated from the Leningrad Higher Naval School named after M.V. Frunze, and in 1994 - the Institute of Foreign Languages ​​of the US Department of Defense. In 2002, he served as commander of the multinational naval exercises Blackseafor. Active participant in the Orange Revolution. He was the initiator and one of the ideologists of the information war against the basing of the Black Sea fleet in Crimea. Being displaced under Yanukovych from the post of commander of the Ukrainian Navy, he expressed particular discontent about the "return" of the Russian language to the fleet. He is a member of the HE "Freedom" O. Tyagnibok.

Mikhail Kutsin, whom Turchinov appointed instead of Admiral Yu. Ilyin as Chief of the General Staff - Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, was born in Transcarpathia. Serving in the army in the Western Ukrainian garrisons, he managed to privatize two service three-room apartments in Rovno and Rawa-Russkaya for his family, as well as a “house for receptions” near Lviv. For this reason, it is on a “short leash” by the radical nationalist forces of Western Ukraine.

Thus, the fascist nationalist O. Tyagnibok, who remained, as it were, in the shadow at the time of the formation of the government, through his people actually controls the entire military bloc of the new regime. And if you consider that Yarosh has already begun to form a new special forces (apparently, to replace the "Berkut"), the picture is even more complete, and the threat of the spread of brown plague is even more real.

Is there a way for the Ukrainian military elite with such people? Do they symbolize the heroic pages stories and should determine the future of the country? Can former Soviet officers, whose grandfathers and fathers shed blood in the fight against Bandera, bow their heads in front of their modern successors? The refusal of loyalty to these people who are able to bring the country to a complete national catastrophe, means not treason, but an oath of allegiance to Ukraine!
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  1. Energy
    Energy 4 March 2014 18: 08
    +65
    fascist experiment on one separately taken Slavic country. Interestingly, tyagnibok has not started writing "Ukrainian mein kampf" yet? here Yarosh is already engaged in the creation of the Zhovto-Blakit SS Legion "Empty Head" ...
    1. Slavapom
      Slavapom 4 March 2014 18: 19
      +82
      A bit of offtopic, well, and humor:
      Ukraine: Anxiety! The invasion of Russia! The approach of the invaders!
      Russia:...
      Ukraine: A !!! Russia got scared and backtracked!
      Russia: ...
      Ukraine: Attention! Russia is completely overgrown and is moving here again at full speed! Collision is inevitable!
      Russia:...
      Ukraine: Hurray !!! The EU showed Russia Kuzkin’s mother, and she was scared! USA! USA! USA!
      Russia: ...
      Ukraine: Urgently! All people of goodwill! I ask for immediate help! Numerous provocations of Russia! Save!
      Russia: ...
      Ukraine: Yes! YES !!!! DAAAAA !!!!! Vali, Vali from here, oh Raska! We are one and invincible!
      Russia: Take it easy, you fool. I'm on a serpentine ride.
      Taken here: http://m.livejournal.com/read/user/ortheos/405795#full
      1. Ivan_Ivanov
        Ivan_Ivanov 4 March 2014 18: 38
        +37
        .

        02.03.2014
        Mr. Turchinov, in the presence of the ambassadors of the USA, Germany and Poland, signed a preliminary agreement with the IMF on the provision of financial assistance to Ukraine, according to which the entire gas transmission system of Ukraine as of the moment of signing the final main agreement on financial assistance is transferred free of charge to the American company Chevron, owners of Mariupol, Zaporizhia, Dnepropetrovsk metallurgical plants are required to transfer 50% of the shares of companies to the German company Ruhr, the coal production of Donbass is also transferred to the Finnish daughter of Ruhr! Also, in addition to political requirements, the signed document contains a clause on the provision to the NATO bloc of territories near Kharkov for the deployment of American missile defense systems, an American fighter aviation link for covering missile defense facilities!
        Source - First Deputy Ambassador of the Czech Republic to Poland.


        I do not presume to judge the reliability of the information, but on Saturday the media reported that Turchinov had agreed on loans with the IMF.
        .
        1. ia-ai00
          ia-ai00 4 March 2014 18: 45
          +16
          Well, just like PAN Tavrichesky divided - everything is "honestly" ...
          1. I do not care
            I do not care 4 March 2014 20: 18
            +12
            a million hosh? Take it, I'll draw it!

            Papandopol
        2. gfs84
          gfs84 4 March 2014 19: 00
          +14
          The Germans seem to me not quite fools to subscribe to this, especially after this:

          Yuri Shuvalov, deputy chief of staff of the lower house of the Russian parliament, said that a working group had been formed in the State Duma to analyze the legitimacy of the decisions of the Verkhovna Rada. The first meeting of the group, the task of which, according to Sergey Naryshkin, is to "analyze the legal legitimacy of the legislative procedure and the decisions taken", will be held on March 5. “Such an analysis is needed to understand the consequences of decisions made in Ukraine for both our compatriots and the whole range of Russian-Ukrainian relations,” ITAR-TASS quoted the policy as saying.
        3. Rostovchanin
          Rostovchanin 4 March 2014 19: 24
          +23
          Mr. Turchinov, in the presence of the ambassadors of the USA, Germany and Poland, signed a preliminary agreement with the IMF on the provision of financial assistance to Ukraine, according to which the entire gas transmission system of Ukraine as of the moment of signing the final main agreement on financial assistance is transferred free of charge to the American company Chevron,

          ... it seems to get along ........ after 2 years, the transport system of Ukraine, after the start of the South Stream, no one will need .......
          1. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 4 March 2014 19: 40
            +3
            GTS will go for free and for 2 years you can get so much on it. and after 2 years, you can just quit it if she
            Quote: Rostovchanin
            transport system of Ukraine, after the start of the South Stream no one will need .......
        4. aksakal
          aksakal 4 March 2014 19: 38
          +23
          Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
          Also, in addition to political requirements, the signed document contains a clause on the provision to the NATO bloc of territories near Kharkov for the deployment of American missile defense systems, an American fighter aviation link for covering missile defense facilities!
          Source - First Deputy Ambassador of the Czech Republic to Poland.

          - If not a duck (and most likely she, darling!), Then Ukraine has big problems with a powerful neighbor from the east, and Turchynov is simply not a tenant
          1. I do not care
            I do not care 4 March 2014 20: 23
            +6
            joke
            meeting of GDP and LAD
            comes out dim- Turchinov is? - yes! Is there a gas stove?
            Throw it on .X ...
            1. CALL.
              CALL. 5 March 2014 10: 51
              +1
              Quote: Slavapom
              A bit of offtopic, well, and humor:


              Next week, Ukraine will hold a ballistic missile launch exercise. The military, as usual, is going to learn about the results of the exercises from news releases.
              1. ele1285
                ele1285 5 March 2014 23: 30
                0
                Quote: Z.O.V.
                Next week, Ukraine will hold a ballistic missile launch exercise. The military, as usual, is going to learn about the results of the exercises from news releases.

                Yes, rather, according to English scientists who suggested that they are English scientists.
          2. cosmos111
            cosmos111 4 March 2014 22: 09
            +17
            real provocateurs, under the cameras of foreign media ((((
            these are sheep, not officers >>>> cowards and traitors of the Ukrainian people !!!
            almost provoked a fratricidal war !!!
            и RED FLAG,dishonored with **** ....
            1. cosmos111
              cosmos111 4 March 2014 22: 11
              +10
              but Russian activists and self-defense forces of Crimea, from Sevastopol, blocked the way for these Bandera provocateurs !!!
              1. nnz226
                nnz226 5 March 2014 13: 59
                +4
                In the photo there are also Crimean Berkutovites. After what the Maydauns did to them in Kiev, now they will simply bury these creatures in the ground, but they will not be allowed into Crimea. They brought the men to a frenzy, let the Nazis not be offended now.
            2. cosmos111
              cosmos111 4 March 2014 22: 31
              +14
              here, a similar video from a different angle (((

              look carefully, Bandera in uniform is yelling that with them USA (((
              disgusting to look at this gang of "" "officers" "" = traitors .....

              but the Russian special forces are handsome !!!! not a step back !!!
              1. sasin2008
                sasin2008 4 March 2014 22: 36
                +5

                Bole full version ....
                1. Serg 122
                  Serg 122 5 March 2014 00: 20
                  +4
                  Although the full version - but again ended in nothing. Then what? In principle, since nowhere has really passed, then it ended in nothing .....
                  1. pinachet
                    pinachet 5 March 2014 15: 45
                    0
                    there is a continuation on YouTube, there ukro. the military played football and we also left the system with flags!))
                2. upasika1918
                  upasika1918 5 March 2014 01: 21
                  +2
                  And why didn’t they pay off quietly?
                3. Dikson
                  Dikson 5 March 2014 04: 03
                  +3
                  This is a production ...
                4. wow
                  wow 5 March 2014 13: 24
                  0
                  Aha, "... ukraine has not died yet ..."! Not long left. Personally, I have already remembered HER, I remembered my childhood years.
                  1. Cynic
                    Cynic 5 March 2014 18: 55
                    0
                    Quote: yo-mine
                    Yeah, "... ukraine has not died yet ..."

                    Yeah, screaming _ AMERICA WITH US!
              2. gban4
                gban4 4 March 2014 23: 50
                +14
                If they are military personnel, they believe that they were attacked by the interventionists and are sincerely convinced of this, then probably they should defend their country and beliefs with weapons in their hands. We see garden scarecrows nodding to the USA, empty bells and bullshit. They had to put a snout in the ground and hold them until clarified. But maybe they besides sticks and banners and have nothing to fight.
                1. Kunar
                  Kunar 5 March 2014 09: 51
                  +3
                  so onizh without weapons. type on conscience crush the problems of the Indians, the sheriff is not ibut .... CLOWNS .....
              3. sarmat-4791
                sarmat-4791 4 March 2014 23: 58
                +5
                Who served in the army, he knows in what cases the sentinel uses weapons (after a warning, after a warning shot, etc.). Or type did not know? Have you taken correspondents with operators for clues? Why would the people be excited, they would put the madmen in the same place on the road. Sentinels, what is hunting to kill? (Judging by the form - the flight unit. Correct, where the aircraft begins - the order ends)
                1. morpex
                  morpex 5 March 2014 00: 47
                  -4
                  Quote: sarmat-4791
                  in which cases the sentinel uses a weapon


                  Quote: sarmat-4791
                  they would put madmen in the same place on the road.

                  Quote: gban4
                  But maybe they besides sticks and banners and have nothing to fight.

                  Quote: sarmat-4791
                  We see garden scarecrows nodding to the USA, empty chimes and bullshit.

                  "Handsome" you. Both. Aniki warriors. Who to shoot at? Russian in Russians? So the Americans are just waiting for this. Think with your head and not with your ass. By the way, that's what the commander of the Black Sea Fleet said. They won't show you on TV.
                  Last night on the Ukrainian corvette "Ternopil" there was a very significant case.

                  The ultimatum to the crew of the ship with the requirement to immediately surrender to the Russian troops was personally set by the commander of the Black Sea Fleet, Vice Admiral Alexander Vitko, the Information Resistance group said. To which the commander of the Ukrainian Navy corvette Ternopil, captain of 3 rank Maxim Emelianenko answered him “Russians do not give up!” To this, the surprised Russian admiral asked if Emelianenko was Russian. The Ukrainian commander confirmed that although he has a Ukrainian surname, he is Russian by nationality. However, as part of the crew of the Ukrainian ship. However, since he took the oath of allegiance to the people of Ukraine, he did not intend to change her, like his subordinates.

                  Several people confirmed to us: after the words of Emelianenko, the Black Sea Fleet commander threw his subordinates from the retinue: “Learn how to serve for honor and conscience!” Earlier, the crew of Hetman Sagaidachny confirmed his loyalty to the people of Ukraine, despite the misinformation in the Russian media. .
                  Not a single ship, not a single military unit violated the oath.
                  But it is unlikely that any of you here will believe this. At you Kiselev only speaks the truth ... Go! Who draws more minuses ... wassat
                  1. sarmat-4791
                    sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 01: 21
                    +4
                    Why, you can believe it. And you can’t wait for the minuses
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                  3. Oboz
                    Oboz 5 March 2014 02: 30
                    0
                    The flag must be taken from them! Red!
                    1. ele1285
                      ele1285 6 March 2014 02: 51
                      +4
                      Quote: Oboz
                      The flag must be taken from them! Red!

                      Not you gave, not you take
                  4. afdjhbn67
                    afdjhbn67 5 March 2014 05: 11
                    +5
                    we are all Russian only countries and goals we have different hide out shoot not shoot nonsense the crowd would kick and put them in mincemeat and if you are a military man and for your homeland take a gun if you don’t start at the beginning of the airfield, get into a fighter and so on and don’t order here that you don’t died and the goriliki got drunk by the heroes by women hiding behind the scribbler and the type of zapadentsy are more honest than you they are open enemies and do not hide ...
                  5. acute
                    acute 5 March 2014 09: 54
                    +5
                    All this is good. But what next ?. what allegiance of oath are you talking about ?. Parts of the Black Sea Fleet in 1991 renounced their oath to the Soviet Union. And here are Russians or Ukrainians. In an air wing, 50 aircraft out of which only 5 can take off. your pilots do not want a better life and do not fly, but the devil knows what they are doing and get paid. They like such a life, about sailors even cooler. They just don't want to serve. Are you Russian? These are only Russian surnames, and you yourself have long been sold to Americans and Bandera
                  6. Kunar
                    Kunar 5 March 2014 09: 55
                    -7
                    Do you feel fluent in tonsils?
                  7. stas132
                    stas132 5 March 2014 10: 50
                    0
                    Absolutely correct actions and statements. If the "revolutionaries" are thrown off with honor and conscience, I will applaud standing up.
                  8. tupolev-95
                    tupolev-95 5 March 2014 11: 00
                    +3
                    There is an information war going on and Information Resistance is actively participating in it. You are also not shown a lot of things. Only where were all these wonderful patriots of Ukraine when the coup took place in Kiev? Whose orders are they now carrying out? Having made sure that no one is going to to shoot them, they now take a pose, or even simply sink to provocations. Did you think that Russia would obediently wait for the hour when the Nazis begin to "restore order" in Crimea, arrange provocations against our base, kill Russians? Or maybe Ukrainian the military, who calmly watched as they maim and kill the police, would not allow this? Apparently what they saw, they cannot defend themselves, America is with them!
                  9. 31231
                    31231 5 March 2014 11: 56
                    +3
                    The ultimatum to the crew of the ship with the requirement to immediately surrender to the Russian troops was personally set by the commander of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, Vice Admiral Alexander Vitko, the Information Resistance group said.


                    Video of course not? Are there any words taken from the head of some "Information Resistance"?
                  10. abrakadabre
                    abrakadabre 5 March 2014 13: 05
                    +4
                    the commander of the corvette of the Ukrainian Navy "Ternopil" captain of the 3rd rank Maxim Emelianenko answered him "Russians do not give up!"
                    The Russians, you say, do not give up ...
                    You messed up something.
                    Russians DO NOT SCREAM: "USA is with us!" NEVER. UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. Especially on the camera, as in the video.
                    Anyone can shout: "For the Motherland!", For example. If it comes to screaming. Or contemptuously silently spit in the face of an enemy or an executioner ...
                  11. wow
                    wow 5 March 2014 13: 27
                    0
                    Yeah, and YOU - only Savik Schuster on channel 5. We’ve already listened to it the most I can’t!
                  12. Stalnov I.P.
                    Stalnov I.P. 5 March 2014 14: 36
                    +1
                    Then the question is for Emelianenko, what will happen if the beaten shurik starts wetting the Russians, you put your oath in what place and how you behave when you swore your constitution that you swore, because all the people accepted it, so you spit on the whole people.
                  13. ele1285
                    ele1285 5 March 2014 21: 01
                    0
                    Quote: morpex

                    The ultimatum to the crew To which the commander of the corvette of the Ukrainian Navy "Ternopil" Captain 3 rank Maxim Emelianenko told him "Russians do not give up!"

                    So I won’t understand Valera, you are with us or against, you have become like Croats, you’re still Slavs in your heart, but your soul is already untimely.
                2. Kunar
                  Kunar 5 March 2014 09: 53
                  0
                  PEREPOST .... Learn the Charter of the guard service
                  1. Muadipus
                    Muadipus 5 March 2014 10: 41
                    +4
                    And where does the UGKS? The circumstances of what is happening on the video are not clear. who came to whom? and if they talked about the inviolability and use of weapons ... and who is who?
                    Personally, I saw:
                    1. Three real men similar to the soldiers of the Russian Federation showed restraint and professionalism.
                    2. A poorly organized system is more like a crowd of Ukrainian soldiers. Among which are clearly the instigators and henchmen of the United States.
                    3. Only I got the impression that the pilots thumped for courage?
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              5. 311ove
                311ove 5 March 2014 00: 30
                +3
                And something for the pilot in a soldier's hat, and with a star like ??? 1: 37s Chet, I just can’t increase and make out ????? Generally rabble .... Screaming like hysterics ..
                1. afdjhbn67
                  afdjhbn67 5 March 2014 05: 13
                  +2
                  so there is such an exhaust mom do not worry
              6. ZIS
                ZIS 5 March 2014 16: 43
                +1
                And what about the clowns on vidio the Russians have a different uniform and different helmets and shoulder straps on the "lump" one on the chest. I saw the Marines in my Sevastopol, they looked like that 5 years ago, but now they look different. A shameless provocation filmed far, far from the Crimea.
                1. ele1285
                  ele1285 5 March 2014 21: 54
                  0
                  Quote: ZIS
                  And what about the clowns on the video, the Russians have a different uniform and different helmets and one shoulder strap on the "lump" on the chest ..

                  One shoulder strap was left in my opinion only with the special forces and then only as a false run.
                  And hello to you, Sevastopol, I lived for two years in this glorious city on Baltiyskaya St., it is between the crystals and the arrow
            3. skifd
              skifd 4 March 2014 23: 10
              +14
              Quote: cosmos111
              and RED BANNER, dishonored with **** ....


              Yes ... well, it was necessary to "get married, and stay ..." ... S ... or they, it really is not clear. The task is a provocation, you have to go and fulfill it. Do you need to carry your flag? It is necessary! But it's still scary to go. Hedgehog is understandable. So they took the flag for cover. Only now they did it ugly like that. Ingeniously sneaky. We would go under their "zhovto-blakitny", I would think less bad about them.
              1. sarmat-4791
                sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 00: 07
                +5
                Here they had an 2 banner. One - okay state flag. And the second? a) Either dummy banner (they train with him so as not to scuff the Battle Banner). b) either Battle banner parts. BUT - it is taken out of the storage place ALWAYS UNDER ARMED SECURITY! For - the loss of the Banner of War leads to the disbandment of the unit (and the ax-bashka guilty). Hence, 2 conclusions: 1 - came with weapons (presuming an armed clash in advance); 2 - went without weapons (deb.ly) c) Either Relic Banner (this is generally unimaginable !!!)
                1. Kunar
                  Kunar 5 March 2014 10: 00
                  +2
                  Duck is a passing banner ... the leader of the socialist competition)))) And what is red, so it is fse-red)))) Others were not made at that time))))
                2. avg
                  avg 5 March 2014 10: 55
                  +3
                  Quote: sarmat-4791
                  Here they had 2 banners.

                  Yes, they have a lot of such banners, they are in store for all occasions. Especially touched by waving the red flag to the cries of America with us. Most likely, it was the deputy politician with the food supervisor who gathered the storekeepers, etc., under the promise of Western magazines to pay a hundred hryvnias per nose. Waved on a hundred for courage, and went to work out. And especially greedy women also seized.
                3. ele1285
                  ele1285 5 March 2014 22: 04
                  0
                  Quote: sarmat-4791
                  Here they had an 2 banner. One - okay state flag. And the second? a) Either dummy banner (they train with him so as not to scuff the Battle Banner). b) either Battle banner parts. BUT - it is taken out of the storage place ALWAYS UNDER ARMED SECURITY!

                  What are you talking about? The banner of the unit remained from the time of the Union. And then it’s just Goebel’s propaganda, stupefying the people. Eremenko says that they don’t give up (commander of the box), then the military enlistment offices are full of patriots, then they are against corruption, but the regional leaders are all oligarchs. and the worst thing is that people have been brainwashed.
                4. Jake danzels
                  Jake danzels 11 March 2014 10: 59
                  0
                  Sprinkle ash on your head.
                  First flag of the country
                  Second military unit banner
              2. CALL.
                CALL. 5 March 2014 11: 24
                +1
                Quote: skifd
                We would go under their "zhovto-blakitny", I would think less bad about them.

                The impression is as if the grandmas were working out. After the first shots, they really poked. The hysterical exclamation: "What are you going to shoot at the red flag? This is a banner since 1941", recalled on January 9, 1905, when the workers walked with banners and portraits of the tsar. They also did not believe that they would be shot. Definitely: - production number.
                1. ele1285
                  ele1285 5 March 2014 23: 26
                  +1
                  Quote: Z.O.V.
                  Would go under their "zhovto-blakitny", I would have thought less bad about them. The impression, as if the grandmother worked out. ...

                  Here you are Anatoly 100% right.
            4. alekseinew
              alekseinew 4 March 2014 23: 28
              +6
              led women and foreign zhurnalyug still would have brought their children, stupid
              1. gban4
                gban4 4 March 2014 23: 53
                +4
                Right! They supposedly brought the children on an excursion, but they should not be allowed to go.
            5. aviator_IAS
              aviator_IAS 4 March 2014 23: 36
              +7
              Quote: cosmos111
              real provocateurs, under the cameras of foreign media ((((
              these are sheep, not officers >>>> cowards and traitors of the Ukrainian people !!!
              almost provoked a fratricidal war !!!

              Definitely a provocation. You can hear how foreign videographers are talking with each other with satisfaction. They desperately need such a picture in the news. They will pay any money for it. Remember how at the beginning of the Maidan Klitschko asked the Berkut members to "knock" with the Maydauns on camera. He spoke well, it is very necessary! This production is from the same opera. It's a shame how one could buy such a thing. It's a game with fire.
            6. Neksel
              Neksel 5 March 2014 04: 21
              +2
              Quote: cosmos111
              real provocateurs, under the cameras of foreign media ((((
              these are sheep, not officers >>>> cowards and traitors of the Ukrainian people !!!
              almost provoked a fratricidal war !!!
              и RED FLAG,dishonored with **** ....


              Well, it can be seen with the naked eye that everything is just a production for television cameras.
            7. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 5 March 2014 04: 56
              +2
              check out the calm confident actions the correct alignment of forces and means justified .. these types of military (died calmly died)
            8. genzik161
              genzik161 5 March 2014 08: 30
              +4
              noticed one of the officers screaming with US AMERICA. SHOOTED IN THE PLACE OF US AND WHAT YOUR SAME MUST
            9. tupolev-95
              tupolev-95 5 March 2014 10: 41
              +2
              Carry the Battle Banner of the Soviet era and scream, America with us, what kind of porridge should be in my head?
            10. CALL.
              CALL. 5 March 2014 11: 01
              +1
              Quote: cosmos111
              almost provoked a fratricidal war !!!

              Vile provocation. As you like, - a red banner, an exclamation: "America is with us" and a crowd of journalists, including foreign ones, shouting: "You are on the air."
            11. bigELDAK
              bigELDAK 5 March 2014 14: 00
              +1
              A real provocation is a foreign voice from a correspondent, C * UCIs work for foreigners, a crowd of snubs "like officers" with a Soviet flag, it was necessary to find out the turnout, passwords. PS served in the OPON VV MVD one Sunday afternoon a group of "drunk" inadequate wanted to enter the territory HF, so the guards shot 2 legs, and the rest were crippled that the guards were tugged at the end of the demobilization and called to the headquarters. GOOD PEOPLE DO NOT WALK INTO THE FORBIDDEN AREA neither you nor them will feel good. am
            12. Simple
              Simple 11 March 2014 01: 31
              0
              Quote: cosmos111
              real provocateurs, under the cameras of foreign media ((((


              I watched the video.
              Vladimir Putin correctly said about experiments on people.
              With .... pit two fraternal peoples and still shoot on camera.
              Burn them in hell for it.
        5. alexkross83
          alexkross83 4 March 2014 19: 51
          +7
          They now agree on everything, they are giving promises left and right, they have even taken a soft position, of course temporarily in the Russian language, but there is only one question and it is rhetorical, who will be the guarantor of all this ....? PS At a press conference, the President of Russia said that 60% of Ukraine’s GDP depends on trade with Russia
        6. Maks-80
          Maks-80 4 March 2014 20: 53
          +21
          Everything, it can be stated that the state of Ukraine as such ceases to exist.
        7. Kite
          Kite 4 March 2014 21: 10
          +1
          Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
          required to transfer 50% of the shares of the companies to the German company Ruh

          - And how many %% of the shares of these plants does the "government" of Ukraine have?
        8. Manul
          Manul 4 March 2014 21: 53
          +6
          But how can the acting president sign such an unprofitable agreement? His people did not elect, and this signing cannot be an expression of the will of the people.
          And then they will hold all kinds of elections. appointments, changing clothes, renaming, repairing the maidan ... Oops ... And the money has run out. Let's sell the remaining 50% of the shares. Oops ... And again, something quickly ended ... And let's sell to Poland, Hungary and Romania, the land they want, that’s the people there, do not mind - they should have the right to self-determination .. Again ... Again the money has run out. One way out is to lease the land under NATO bases.
        9. Mih
          Mih 4 March 2014 22: 36
          +2
          He will not even sign it - but what should he do? Money is dumb - is it still not ukraine? Well, about Poland, I'm generally silent.
          He talked with the IMF and deliberately accepted complete bondage for his homeland.
          All industrialized regions will be in full ... ne.
          1. Kunar
            Kunar 5 March 2014 10: 03
            +1
            Already-gone .......
        10. RUS96
          RUS96 5 March 2014 01: 15
          +9
          "They shouldn't have come to us "
      2. rOpe
        rOpe 4 March 2014 19: 05
        +11
        Yes, yes, banderlogs in the best traditions of Don Quixote fight with windmills. And even almost won !!!
        1. Mih
          Mih 4 March 2014 22: 39
          +1
          Pyrrhic victory. It’s a pity ordinary people.
        2. AVV
          AVV 5 March 2014 01: 13
          +2
          Quote: rOpe
          Yes, yes, banderlogs in the best traditions of Don Quixote fight with windmills. And even almost won !!!

          Banderlog, you need to prepare for difficult times, they won’t bother with them for a long time, but the army will take power in Kiev in its hands, and it won’t fight with the people !!!!
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 4 March 2014 19: 11
        +19
        "Where will the Ukrainian army turn?"
        lol First you need to find her!
        1. antiaircrafter
          antiaircrafter 4 March 2014 20: 09
          +6
          Quote: GSH-18
          "Where will the Ukrainian army turn?"

          While the pennies are dripping on the card or the cash box is opened monthly, the army will sit and conduct political information.
          That's when pennies end - then the army will decide who to serve next.
          1. Mih
            Mih 4 March 2014 22: 43
            +4
            Apparently, pennies will drip - 30 pieces of silver.
        2. zzz
          zzz 4 March 2014 20: 21
          +35
          Sashko Bily is again raging. A bit of humor
        3. Mih
          Mih 4 March 2014 22: 46
          +2
          Where the rams turn the leader, they will go there.
      4. I do not care
        I do not care 4 March 2014 20: 13
        +3
        an anecdote is entertaining, but figured-not everything fits in with the topology. Poor Ukraine must simultaneously move in several directions, although in principle laughing not far from the truth
      5. ele1285
        ele1285 4 March 2014 20: 52
        +5
        Quote: Slavapom
        A bit of offtopic, well, and humor:

        Russia: Mine? Come on. Although everything can be, in the Black Sea last year after the exercises two regiments were missing. Maybe surfaced. And how are they, bathing in fountains, breaking bars?
        Germany: No, no. Polite. Very polite. When Ukraine was kicked in the ass, they even apologized.
        Russia: Then it's not mine. If polite and apologized, then this is a hundred pounds American.
        USA: WHAT ?! Have you seen their equipment? And in general, if they do not kiss, then this is not mine.
        Russia: Nope. did not see. There, in the pictures, no nicherta can be made out. But how not to kiss? Look, take it by the tie, toss it on the chair - and k!
        USA: Idiot! This is Sashok. The public prosecutor is kicking! Freedom-equality-heroes glory!
        Russia: Well, it’s necessary, but it behaves like your ambassador. Are you sure that this is not him?
        Ukraine: So, Russia, do not leave the topic. I give you an ultimatum. That in a day on my territory there would not be a single fucking paratrooper. Am I clearly expressing myself?
        Russia: And if not, then what?
        Ukraine: And then we will take a loan from you. And gas.
        Russia: And if so, then what?
        Ukraine: Then we will take a loan. And gas.
        Russia: you need to consult.
      6. ele1285
        ele1285 4 March 2014 20: 55
        +11
        The big globe. There is a square in front of the globe.

        Ukraine (drums violently at the door): Russia, get up, scum, tear your eyes! Fig, I'll give you sleep tonight!

        Russia (behind): Wipe your eyes yourself. Just noon struck.

        Ukraine: And your time is already swaying nobody! Ukraine is Europe, and our European time is 4 in the morning. And in general, do not distract me. I came to tell you that I know everything about you!

        Russia: Oh! You're just in time! Do you know where I stuck my savings bank? For a month now I’m looking for can not find.

        Ukraine (maliciously): Did you watch in the ass?

        Russia: In the backyard? That's how I feel recently a little discomfort. We’ll see ... Not. Nifiga. There is only one Security Council.

        Ukraine (with a sagging jaw): Russia! Are you fucking ?? Did you send the Security Council in the ass ?! !!

        Russia: It's not me, USA. We have different ways with America, but everyone’s ass is common.

        Ukraine: Okay. NATO will deal with you. Now listen here. In short, I saw through you.

        Russia: Well done.

        Ukraine: You arranged everything specifically to ...

        Russia: Wait, I’ll take a notebook now, otherwise you always have such cool ideas that I constantly forget them.

        Ukraine: So, you arranged everything on purpose, so that I would pop my house, and all my tenants moved to your summer house in Sochi in the summer! And you want to get enough of me, such a reptile.

        Russia: Well, purely theoretically, your house can not be crap. You can just sweep, wash the floors there.

        Ukraine: One disenfranchised hereditary slaves wash and sweep floors. And free people break walls and burn curtains.

        Russia: Yes, no question.

        Ukraine: You see - you yourself admitted that you want me to rasshrechatila everything. So know that I got you through!

        Russia: And?

        Ukraine: Give me the money.

        Russia: Yesterday I did.

        Ukraine: When you gave yesterday, then there were still floors and curtains. And today we have freedom. Still give.
        1. ele1285
          ele1285 4 March 2014 22: 06
          +5
          Ukraine: When you gave yesterday, then there were still floors and curtains. And today we have freedom. Still give.

          Russia: This is arrogance.

          USA (stern and gloomy, on the other side of the globe): This is democracy.

          Russia: Ukraine, and what do you not demand from the USA?

          Ukraine: But she does not.

          USA (stern and gloomy, on the other side of the globe): This, too, is democracy.

          Russia: Well, then I will not give anything democratically either.

          Ukraine: This is a violation of all agreements! You and I had a bilateral agreement.

          Russia: Why? What other bilateral agreement?

          Ukraine: Well, that you will give me money.

          Russia: And in return, what?

          Ukraine: And I'll take it.

          Russia: Not. Something does not interfere with me from such agreements.

          USA (harsh and gloomy, on the other side of the globe): This is not democracy.

          Russia: Yes? And what is she screaming "get her", what's that?

          USA (stern and gloomy, on the other side of the globe): This is democracy.

          Russia: So I can't shout "Bandera Get"?

          USA (stern and gloomy, on the other side of the globe): And this is not democracy at all.

          Ukraine: USA! Thank you, dear!

          USA (sticks his head out from behind the globe): Huh? What? Thanks for that?!

          Ukraine: Well, Bandera is a democracy.

          USA: Yes, no, I didn’t hear anything at all, it’s just that I put flags on the map for my fleet.

          Ukraine: ...
      7. Mhpv
        Mhpv 4 March 2014 20: 58
        +4
        Another fabulous Ukrainian portal "Praise". Read, there is a lot of funny things, though for fragile Ukrainian minds this is a bomb.
      8. Cherdak
        Cherdak 4 March 2014 23: 47
        +6
        Quote: Slavapom
        A bit of offtopic, well, and humor:


        This is how Yatsenyuk sees non-fall police trained in the EU laughing
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    2. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 4 March 2014 18: 25
      +47
      Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkiv region. take under the protectorate of Russia. The rest give the opportunity, who wants to go to Russia and take her citizenship. The remaining territories are treated as Poland No. 2. To those Russian-language traitors who will remain, prohibit content access to the Runet and the intellectual work of Russian programmers and Russifiers, a ban on jumping games and music, let them go to the MOV, once they are defined.

      Let me remind you that this happened in Odessa, another six months before the Maidan:



      Russian-speaking Russophobes, is a reality !!! Gangrene needs to be cut off. You can save only: Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkiv region. this is a harsh reality.

      The rest must go to Russia on their own.

      By the way, in the summer the Americans tested the Russian speakers in Odessa for the outrage of the Russian flag. As you can see, in the Russian-speaking Odessa, outrage did not happen. As a consequence-Maidan !!!
      1. Ivan_Ivanov
        Ivan_Ivanov 4 March 2014 18: 52
        +26
        Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkiv region. take under the protectorate of Russia.

        If you separate the rest of Ukraine, then there very soon, almost instantly, there will be NATO troops. This can not be allowed!
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 4 March 2014 18: 59
          +27
          Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
          Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkiv region. take under the protectorate of Russia.

          If you separate the rest of Ukraine, then there very soon, almost instantly, there will be NATO troops. This can not be allowed!


          And what do you suggest to shed the blood of Russian soldiers of Russia? In Dnipropetrovsk alone, at least 50% of Russian-speaking Russophobes. There Kolomoisky tried! That we are here on the site so smart. And imagine a soldier Ivan with Ryazan, to which Sergey Ivanov will come to talk, and then stab with a knife !? How to distinguish them? Everything is very, very bad. :(
          1. Ivan_Ivanov
            Ivan_Ivanov 4 March 2014 19: 03
            +19
            I agree, shitty. But giving your land is not worth it. We managed in the Caucasus, and we can handle the memory.
            1. I do not care
              I do not care 4 March 2014 20: 27
              +3
              Guys, you have a cart blanche, everything is in your hands
            2. SSR
              SSR 4 March 2014 21: 48
              +2
              Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
              I agree, shitty. But giving your land is not worth it. We managed in the Caucasus, and we can handle the memory.

              The best option (for me) is if the military in Ukraine would have taken over the authorities before putting things in order and holding elections.

              . No one knows who she will be loyal to. There is a likelihood that her command might consider the most reliable defense of the fatherland from war and separatism the displacement of the putschists in Kiev, due to its complete inability to fulfill its obligations to the country. The military can simply take power into their own hands to end the chaos reigning in Ukraine.

              I am for it!
          2. Orik
            Orik 4 March 2014 20: 06
            +4
            Quote: Nevsky_ZU
            Quote: Ivan_Ivanov
            Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkiv region. take under the protectorate of Russia.

            If you separate the rest of Ukraine, then there very soon, almost instantly, there will be NATO troops. This can not be allowed!


            And what do you suggest to shed the blood of Russian soldiers of Russia? In Dnipropetrovsk alone, at least 50% of Russian-speaking Russophobes. There Kolomoisky tried! That we are here on the site so smart. And imagine a soldier Ivan with Ryazan, to which Sergey Ivanov will come to talk, and then stab with a knife !? How to distinguish them? Everything is very, very bad. :(

            I agree with both of you. It’s bad, but this means that we have to give Ukraine to Bandera, if today it’s 50/50, then tomorrow it will be even less.
          3. Oleksandr
            Oleksandr 5 March 2014 00: 01
            -8
            I'm wondering.
            Situation: Russian troops occupied the southeast, the border along the Dnieper. So we came to Dnepropetrovsk, here is a tank, there is an armored personnel carrier, "tigers" are running back and forth.

            We performed on Channel 11: Dear Russian-speaking brothers, we have set you free! Fascism did not pass.
            Russian-speaking brothers: Hooray! Glory to Russia!

            And then what?
            1. ele1285
              ele1285 5 March 2014 00: 29
              +2
              Quote: Oleksandr
              I'm wondering.

              The member is small, but in Ukraine closely
              What is an 11 channel?
              And where are the idiots of a T-VI tiger roaming back and forth
              fat to heroes, heroes fat.
            2. alicante11
              alicante11 5 March 2014 05: 02
              +2
              And then what?


              Never mind. Ukraine was already part of Russia under the Empire and the USSR and lived, did not grieve. And now the people will live as they did, that the independent oligarchs robbed him, that the sovereign, but the independent oligarchs have to share.
            3. Kunar
              Kunar 5 March 2014 10: 14
              0
              Umoy Kolomoyetsa)))
              “Do not hope that once taking advantage of Russia's weakness, you will receive dividends forever. Russians always come for their money. And when they come - do not rely on the Jesuit agreements that you have signed that supposedly defend you. They are not worth the paper they are written on. Therefore, it is worth playing with Russians either playing honestly or not playing at all. ”
              Sincerely, O. Bismarck (please read in the compartment and out of context - do not pull)
        2. alexkross83
          alexkross83 4 March 2014 19: 54
          +1
          I completely agree with you, only a strong friendly country with a federal structure ... I think our politicians have already learned many lessons of history and have leverage.
        3. Sulfuric acid
          Sulfuric acid 4 March 2014 20: 10
          +1
          So what? High stand, since they have extra money for military bases and infrastructure. NATO tactical aircraft are now 7 minutes flying time from St. Petersburg - so what? Leningraders live poorly or what? In Soviet times, they could hit us with nuclear missiles at any time, the B-52 hung constantly in the air along the borders, but they somehow lived. They correctly said in the comments above - gangrene needs to be cut off, they want NATO at home - they will get NATO, you won’t be forcibly sweet (the example of Hungary-1956 and Czechoslovakia-1968 illustrates this well).

          PS An increase in the number of military bases without increasing the number of military units and equipment means squandering money, dispersing forces and reducing the average number of troops at each base (it will be easier to destroy if something happens).
        4. Maks-80
          Maks-80 4 March 2014 20: 57
          +2
          They will appear there anyway.
          1. sds555
            sds555 4 March 2014 23: 28
            +10
            Goblin about the situation in Ukraine, very interesting
            1. gban4
              gban4 4 March 2014 23: 32
              +1
              Ours are already here.
            2. gban4
              gban4 4 March 2014 23: 54
              0
              And leaked here!
            3. sarmat-4791
              sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 00: 42
              +2
              Sociologically. Cheap and cheerful. And basically, right.
            4. Gorinich
              Gorinich 5 March 2014 01: 15
              +3
              Well done Goblin, soberly sets out.
          2. sds555
            sds555 5 March 2014 02: 21
            +1
            The truth about Ukrainian media
            Pay attention to the teeth of blondes in one slot, they are different
            1. sds555
              sds555 5 March 2014 03: 26
              +2
              Guys, here’s a more complete video about the current situation in Belbek. Pay attention to the video from 2 minutes. The fighter says that he is local and that he stood unarmed with a club 2 weeks ago and shot him, I think he is from Berkut, but what do you think?
            2. mnbv199
              mnbv199 5 March 2014 14: 54
              0
              No, not like! In the first and second photographs: look at the upper teeth.
        5. Manul
          Manul 5 March 2014 11: 51
          0
          If we allow Kiev to decide for the people of Crimea, Kharkov, Odessa and other cities, which are mostly for us, then NATO bases will get even closer.
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 4 March 2014 18: 53
        +16
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Russian-speaking Russophobes, is a reality !!! Gangrene needs to be cut off. You can save only: Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkiv region. this is a harsh reality.

        I agree, the rest is already lost. But you can still beat for Odessa and Nikolaev ..

        By the way, these assholes on video, in Russia, the Cossacks filled their faces, managed to save the cops from complete beating ...
      3. Victor1
        Victor1 4 March 2014 20: 28
        +7
        You can’t give up such a vast territory, even in the Transcarpathian region it is full of people for Russia and the Russian language.
        the maximum that you can go is to cut off Galicia with complete blocking and isolation in all directions and gradually make it controlled by Russia.
        on the example of the Crimea and the South-East, the rest will also catch up, the people are not so finished as not to understand what is happening in the country and who has come to power, they only need a push, such as that given by Crimea. as soon as they understand in which ass they found themselves without subsidies from the southeast and Russia will reared up against the Bandera as pretty.
        one thing needs to be understood, extensive Russophobic propaganda has now risen, thousands of custom-made enemies are working on the Internet that misinform the people. this does not mean that people think the same way.
      4. Val_y
        Val_y 5 March 2014 00: 07
        0
        Okay, because of one dibila, the entire area under the knife for the Nazis ???
        And now in Odessa such moods
        http://iskra-news.info/news/pered_zdaniem_odesskoj_obladministracii_podnjali_ros
        sijskij_flag_foto_video / 2014-03-03-8818
    3. sds555
      sds555 4 March 2014 18: 25
      +13
      That's what this is a provocation? !!! What does it have to do with America, with us, provocation or emotions? But then where are so many journalists from?
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 4 March 2014 18: 40
        +9
        sds555
        Quote: sds555
        That's what this is a provocation? !!! What does it have to do with America, with us, provocation or emotions? But then where are so many journalists from?


        All this is very sad and in person. Unfortunately, this is a provocation to the show. And she succeeded. :(
        1. Russ69
          Russ69 4 March 2014 18: 50
          +29
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          All this is very, very sad. Unfortunately, this is a provocation to the show. And she succeeded.

          Banner of the USSR and immediately shout; "America is with us!" ...
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          2. FREGATENKAPITAN
            FREGATENKAPITAN 4 March 2014 19: 53
            +2
            And these are the lads who are out of order (72 meters-Farewell of the Slavyanka!)
            1. Neksel
              Neksel 5 March 2014 04: 26
              0
              Alas, this is just a beautiful film and nothing more. Dreams ....
          3. FREGATENKAPITAN
            FREGATENKAPITAN 4 March 2014 19: 56
            +8
            America, Europe................................God with us ! And St. Andrew's Flag!
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          5. from punk
            from punk 4 March 2014 20: 48
            +8
            their fathers were dying for this flag and he is America with us
          6. from punk
            from punk 4 March 2014 20: 49
            +2
            I would have pulled out a pancake and I don’t have such exposure
        2. PN
          PN 4 March 2014 18: 55
          +12
          In truth, this video is very similar. That's just a cry - America with us, it sounds stupid.
          1. Russ69
            Russ69 4 March 2014 19: 21
            +11
            Quote: PN
            In truth, this video is very similar. That's just a cry - America with us, it sounds stupid.

            The video is certainly provocative and planned, but proves that the air base is under our full control.
          2. Serg 122
            Serg 122 4 March 2014 20: 45
            0
            In truth, this video is very similar. That's just a cry - America with us, it sounds stupid.
            Question - why didn’t they show how it ended? Why interrupted? So then they really went home?
        3. illarion
          illarion 4 March 2014 19: 00
          +9
          And what is the result? Oh, hold me seven: Sky News showed us. So this ad is called. How did it end? I think we invited the commander to the headquarters, drank vodka and lard with him. And we all went to our gardens.
          1. Docklishin
            Docklishin 4 March 2014 22: 17
            0
            About 50 soldiers without weapons at about 8:40 moved in a convoy to the airfield, which is occupied by the military without identification marks, UE reports.

            “When the convoy approached the entrance to the airfield together with the press, there is a lot of press from all over the world, - Russian soldiers started shooting in the air. And the journalists threatened to shoot at the legs. Then their commander came out and held talks with Yuri Mamchur. And they did not introduce themselves. even by rank, the only thing that is known is that the commander's name is Roman, "the journalist said.

            He noted that Mamchur demanded that the Ukrainian military be allowed to take up their working positions, and proposed jointly guarding military depots on the territory of the airfield.

            "The Russians agreed in part - permission to bring a technical outfit to the positions, about 10 people. Mamuchr calls up with the commander of the Russian detachment and demands that the rest of the requirements be fulfilled." Maximum program - they require the Russians to leave the territory of the unit, "

            The Russians say that the command does not give an order to retreat.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzmThZyoaPE
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            1. Docklishin
              Docklishin 4 March 2014 22: 19
              0
              Sorry - not that link at the bottom. Here is the source http://www.unian.net/politics/892625-ukrainskie-voennyie-v-belbeke-vernuli-chast
              -vzletnyih-polos-foto-opublikovano-video.html
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        4. v53993
          v53993 4 March 2014 19: 10
          +12
          What does it have to do with America with Us, Provocation or emotions? But then where are so many journalists from?

          Our guys acted correctly, but could be tougher. And those with whom America in general face into the earth - not our people, definitely. And requisition the Red Banner so that pro-American scum would not touch the saint with dirty paws.
          1. builder
            builder 4 March 2014 19: 53
            +48
            One should answer provocations like this
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            2. Horst78
              Horst78 4 March 2014 20: 02
              -22%
              No, it’s impossible. Georgians just got their way.
              PS / It seemed to me, or at the Georgian channel, the style of VGTRK?
            3. Flooding
              Flooding 4 March 2014 21: 09
              0
              Quote: stroitel
              One should answer provocations like this

              Do not write nonsense. Not that case. Rather provocation is your proposal.
            4. Russian 77
              Russian 77 4 March 2014 23: 11
              +5
              Let us imagine in place of the Russian NATO (well, I smoothed it)))) !!! I have not heard a single shot! By myself, I know how I want to press when there is something and there is a reason !!!! And here .... damn discipline and self-fertilization !!!
            5. gban4
              gban4 4 March 2014 23: 28
              +4
              5 points. Pride for ours.
            6. Neksel
              Neksel 5 March 2014 04: 30
              -4
              Quote: stroitel
              One should answer provocations like this


              "Peacemakers" - is this how they create the world?
              1. bigELDAK
                bigELDAK 5 March 2014 14: 27
                +1
                that’s how ships on video do not kill anyone other than the germs on the EBAL * bull. wassat
            7. serge
              serge 5 March 2014 09: 27
              +1
              Forgot to reporters lyuley weigh. They are precisely the main provocateurs. And to select the video equipment, so as not to crap on the air.
            8. Kunar
              Kunar 5 March 2014 17: 16
              0
              Timid Georgians licked ....
        5. Big lexey
          Big lexey 4 March 2014 19: 13
          +54
          As a reserve officer, I can clearly say that the Russian servicemen acted extremely calmly and infinitely intelligently so as not to escalate the situation. The combat regulations of the Armed Forces prescribe in this situation (when attacking a post (protected area), to warn with the voice "STAND", to fire a warning shot (which was done !!!) and if the attackers did not fulfill the requirement (and they did not fulfill it), open fire on Moreover, the fire to kill opens even if the attackers fled.
          The video provided shows that the fighters did everything to prevent bloodshed, but at the same time took up the defense, ready for any development of events.
          Thank you very much for the endurance, dedication and professionalism of the Russian military.
          From the crowd - this is a deliberate provocation. Conscious! They wanted blood. Did not work out. Thanks to the Russian soldier!
          I have no doubt in the bloody consequences if a US Army soldier stood in the place of Russian soldiers.
          1. PN
            PN 4 March 2014 19: 31
            +7
            That's what I thought, maybe it's not just a special forces, but our peacekeeping troops? I watched a program about them, because they are being trained there very much so that conflict situations can be resolved by negotiations, and not by arms.
            1. Horst78
              Horst78 4 March 2014 19: 58
              +3
              Quote: PN
              That's what I thought, maybe it's not just a special forces, but our peacekeeping troops? I watched a program about them, because they are being trained there very much so that conflict situations can be resolved by negotiations, and not by arms.

              I've already written that the guys seem to have been preparing for this for several months. It’s not just some military actions (although it’s difficult for me to judge, I didn’t serve in the army).
            2. Horst78
              Horst78 4 March 2014 19: 58
              +1
              Quote: PN
              That's what I thought, maybe it's not just a special forces, but our peacekeeping troops? I watched a program about them, because they are being trained there very much so that conflict situations can be resolved by negotiations, and not by arms.

              I've already written that the guys seem to have been preparing for this for several months. It’s not just some military actions (although it’s difficult for me to judge, I didn’t serve in the army).
            3. s1н7т
              s1н7т 4 March 2014 22: 10
              +1
              Quote: PN
              That's what I thought, maybe it's not just a special forces, but our peacekeeping troops? I watched a program about them,

              What is "simple special forces" ?! laughing Here, it turns out, there are so many children with brains polluted by the media, guard! lol
          2. s1н7т
            s1н7т 4 March 2014 22: 03
            +5
            Quote: BigLexey
            The military regulations of the Armed Forces prescribe in this situation (when attacking a post (protected area) to warn with a voice "STAY",

            Are we the ones who realized that the UGiKS became a combat charter ?! laughing I do not believe! (C)
            1. alone
              alone 4 March 2014 23: 37
              -1
              Quote: c1n7
              Are we the ones who realized that the UGiKS became a combat charter ?! I do not believe! (C)

              Well, Valentin, there’s nothing to be surprised. If the Russian Representative to the UN Churkin confuses Shukhevych with Shushkevich (the one who signed the Belovezhsk Agreement on behalf of Belarus), then this mistake by ordinary people who confused the UGiKS with BU is insignificant.
              1. s1н7т
                s1н7т 5 March 2014 11: 34
                0
                Quote: lonely
                a similar mistake of ordinary people who confused UGiKS with BU is insignificant.

                The author positioned himself as an officer, so I was "led." If "an ordinary person" said it, I would not even notice soldier
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          1. Horst78
            Horst78 4 March 2014 19: 45
            +2
            Quote: BigLexey
            Thank you very much for the endurance, dedication and professionalism of the Russian military.

            good
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        7. Horst78
          Horst78 4 March 2014 19: 44
          +1
          I agree, it was a success. On YouTube, such comments, which is not funny already.
          1. skeptic
            skeptic 4 March 2014 20: 21
            +11
            Quote: Horst78
            I agree, it was a success. On YouTube, such comments, which is not funny already.


            On the topic "Where will the Ukrainian army turn" Army men may not share the political views of the rulers, but they will fight and avenge the deaths of their friends and colleagues.

            So, the provocation has not yet succeeded, but they will look for other options that would be tied with blood, pushed the foreheads of the Slavs. Here - God forbid, all keep a cool head.
        8. Russ69
          Russ69 4 March 2014 19: 47
          +8
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          All this is very, very sad. Unfortunately, this is a provocation to the show.

          About this channel ... From the interview ...

          Deputy Mufti of Tatarstan: "The anti-Russian ATR channel in Crimea is financed by a billionaire with a Moscow residence permit"


          We are going to the Crimean Tatar television ATP. The sentiments here are markedly anti-Russian. While the live broadcast is being prepared, two journalists enter the waiting room and rain down an avalanche of anger on us, they say, why did you occupy our country. One of them even begins to cry. "We fundamentally do not greet each other with the Russian greeting" Hello ", - the employee of the TV channel, which also broadcasts its programs mainly in Russian, continues to spray in Russian. - We only say" Salam aleikum "to each other, - sums up the secular journalist with luxurious hair.
          The ATR TV channel, as ordinary Crimeans say, is actively spreading panic, manipulating facts, and biased coverage of the situation in Crimea. Judging by what I have seen on their air these days, this is indeed the case. The Asia-Pacific Region, as it turns out, is financed by the Russian billionaire with a Moscow residence permit and Crimean Tatar origin Linur Islyamov - the one who allocated $ 1,5 million for the film "Khaitarma" about the deportation of the Crimean Tatars in 1944, which caused a great public outcry in Kazan last year. festival of Muslim cinema. It turns out that anti-Russian propaganda in Crimea is financed with money from Russian business.


          It is completely here ...
          http://ursa-tm.ru/forum/index.php?/topic/78767-%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%BC%D0%B5%D1%81%D1
          %82%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C-%D0%BC%D1%83%D1%84%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D1%82%D0
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          80%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8/
          1. gfs84
            gfs84 4 March 2014 20: 18
            +13
            Now it’s clear why this trip was needed:

            KAZAN, March 4. / Corr. ITAR-TASS Damira Khayrulina. On Wednesday, March 5, Tatarstan President Rustam Minnikhanov will make a working trip to Crimea. This was announced by the first deputy chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea Rustam Temirgaliev.
            The press service of the President of Tatarstan ITAR-TASS confirmed that in the Crimea the head of the republic will hold a series of meetings. It is expected that the first point of his visit will be Simferopol.
            On Tuesday, the President of Tatarstan expressed support for the fund "In support of the inhabitants of Crimea". Minnikhanov appealed to the residents of Tatarstan, the business community, collectives of enterprises and organizations with an appeal to "support compatriots" and provide them with all possible assistance.

            As I understand it, if Minikhanov doesn’t work, they will send Kadyrov - also a Muslim, after all)))
            1. muginov2015
              muginov2015 4 March 2014 20: 43
              +9
              I would advise Minnikhanov. As a fellow countryman, first of all, they’ll understand their Wahhabis at home, all the more they are known, and they won’t ask where you’re going. You don’t have the level, dear, to go into big politics. and start respecting you.
            2. muginov2015
              muginov2015 4 March 2014 20: 48
              0
              I would advise Minnikhanov, as a fellow countryman, to put things in order at first at home, you understand the Wahhabis in Tatarstan, and you don’t see the problems at point blank range, oh, there are few of them, but they are all under control, see you play it shaky little will not seem to anyone. you're in a big politics, dear — not a little hat ... And as for help, again he will send a list of orders for enterprises and hospitals, they say to all the masturbators voluntarily, to tear off, sorry to collect some money from subordinates.
              1. gfs84
                gfs84 4 March 2014 21: 44
                +1
                Sorry for the incompetence, and in Tatarstan there are many Wahhabis?
                Help is also a question: is it difficult to give 10% of the daily salary to help your own people - those who are in a difficult situation?
                1. gfs84
                  gfs84 4 March 2014 22: 52
                  0
                  A minus little to explain?
            3. Roman Skomorokhov
              Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 20: 51
              0
              Also, too.
              Only the first is the word (even if it’s wise and kind), and the second is deed. But to whom it will be good - a question.
          2. skeptic
            skeptic 4 March 2014 20: 27
            +5
            Quote: Russ69
            The Asia-Pacific Region, as it turns out, is financed by the Russian billionaire with a Moscow residence permit and Crimean Tatar origin Linur Islyamov - the one who allocated $ 1,5 million for the film "Khaitarma" about the deportation of the Crimean Tatars in 1944, which caused a great public outcry in Kazan last year. festival of Muslim cinema.


            I wonder how the FSB looks at it.
        9. from punk
          from punk 4 March 2014 21: 03
          +1
          which officers have neither honor nor conscience. it is clear why there is no Ukrainian army
          1. s1н7т
            s1н7т 4 March 2014 22: 22
            +5
            Quote: punk
            which officers have neither honor nor conscience. it is clear why there is no Ukrainian army

            Because there is no such state - Ukraine. Historically, I have nothing to do with it. laughing And the officers have nothing to do with it. When they swore, they didn’t think about their homeland, but about apartments, etc. Not to reproach them, but as a fact.
            1. starpom
              starpom 5 March 2014 06: 08
              +3
              Quote: c1n7
              When they swore, they didn’t think about their homeland, but about apartments, etc. Not to reproach them, but as a fact.

              This is not their first time. In 1993, the same bacchanalia was. Officers of the Black Sea Fleet overshooted Ukraine, people from the other fleets also reached Ukraine.
        10. SSR
          SSR 4 March 2014 21: 56
          +3
          Quote: Nevsky_ZU
          sds555
          Quote: sds555
          that's what a provocation? !!! What does it have to do with America with Us, Provocation or emotions? But then where are so many journalists from?


          All this is very sad and in person. Unfortunately, this is a provocation to the show. And she succeeded. :(

          Failed failed life will show when his relatives will go to collect garbage in the garbage can, then maybe he will remember. The point is to go with a song in Russian, without weapons in Russian, and the point was to shoot into the air against people who do not even have sticks in their hands? Solid fucking ***.
        11. Olegovi4
          Olegovi4 4 March 2014 22: 22
          +1
          If ours put hoh ... in, then it would be a success. By the way, it was necessary to thin out the crowd from the journalists and explain popularly that there was no need to provoke a person with a weapon during execution.
      2. sds555
        sds555 4 March 2014 18: 42
        +26
        An interesting photo-Ukrainian military with a child and our soldier.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 4 March 2014 18: 43
          +1
          Quote: sds555
          An interesting photo-Ukrainian military with a child and our soldier.


          It seems to me, or such scenes do not arise by chance?
        2. RND
          RND 4 March 2014 19: 03
          +16
          Quote: sds555
          An interesting photo-Ukrainian military with a child and our soldier.

          Our army is not there! It's just "unknown polite person". request
        3. sds555
          sds555 4 March 2014 19: 39
          +30
          .................................................. ..............................

          . laughing
        4. cerko
          cerko 4 March 2014 20: 01
          +14
          Uncle Vova said that this is not our soldier, and this form is full in stores ... bully
      3. made13
        made13 4 March 2014 18: 47
        +33
        This is not just a provocation - a convoy of no one who calls itself servicemen makes a demarche in front of the journalist, knowing for sure that their lives are not in danger! I wonder if they would have come out as boldly against the crowd of "peaceful demonstrators" with Molotov cocktails?
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          Nevsky_ZU 4 March 2014 18: 50
          +14
          Quote: made13
          This is not just a provocation - a convoy of no one who calls itself servicemen makes a demarche in front of the journalist, knowing for sure that their lives are not in danger! I wonder if they would have come out as boldly against the crowd of "peaceful demonstrators" with Molotov cocktails?


          Never mind. Inform war is booming. Where are the journalists from, and still foreign? Who missed? Such a crowd should be stopped with batons by Crimean militiamen!
        2. IOwTZ
          IOwTZ 4 March 2014 18: 54
          +25
          Quote: made13
          This is not just a provocation - a convoy of no one who calls itself servicemen makes a demarche in front of the journalist, knowing for sure that their lives are not in danger! I wonder if they would have come out as boldly against the crowd of "peaceful demonstrators" with Molotov cocktails?


          And also to the zlina shouts "America is with us" and holds the Soviet flag su chara in his hands. That's how much you don't shout at a person, it's still somehow more reliable to ebnut.
          1. Serg 122
            Serg 122 4 March 2014 20: 49
            +5
            Does the banner hold? Why be surprised? Fascists, for example, civilians hid themselves
            when they wanted provocations ...
        3. krpmlws
          krpmlws 4 March 2014 22: 00
          +5
          All this is a game for the public, a provocation arranged, as I believe, by agents of the Western special services under the cover of journalists. I do not think that this stupid demarche was an initiative of the military. It is a pity that some Ukrainian officers are being led by Western propaganda, substitute and put their subordinates at risk. this eloquent cry: “America is with us!” This officer cannot understand what the Russian soldier put on this America. We are not afraid of it, we are not afraid of it, from another test. Bandit collapse of the USSR, more than twenty years of humiliation - the spring of Russian dignity is squeezed to the limit , so we are ready for all possible difficulties inspired by the West, we will not be intimidated with sanctions and consequences, we chkhal at them. If America is behind that bawking officer, then Russia, the entire Russian people, is behind the Russian soldier with a machine gun.
          1. ty60
            ty60 4 March 2014 23: 11
            0
            not undercover, but a special operation prepared for the press
      4. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 4 March 2014 18: 59
        -15%
        Quote: sds555
        provocation?!!!

        Well, the title of the video is already in English, that’s for whom it was posted. And plus Putin said that, in short, out.
        1. velikoros-xnumx
          velikoros-xnumx 4 March 2014 19: 16
          +2
          Hi Sash.
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          And plus Putin Putin told her, shorter out.

          Are you talking about something, did I miss something?
        2. Capyar 48315
          Capyar 48315 4 March 2014 19: 59
          +9
          LET THOUGHT PUTIN CHO SAID ANYTHING AND WITHOUT CALCULATING AN ANSWERING REACTION - I WILL NOT BELIEVE ANYTHING. OTHER THINGS TO KNOW HIM MOTIVES AND INTENTIONS ... OK ALREADY ALREADY INCLUDING A LIPPER
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        4. tungus
          tungus 4 March 2014 20: 11
          +42
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          . And plus Putin Putin said this, in short out.

          Putin said everything about the case. Not swinging a saber, but not creating false illusions among opponents.
          He clearly said that acting President of Ukraine is not legitimate. And accordingly, all his decrees, too.

          Parliament is partially legitimate. This funny definition means that some decisions are glad we can take into account, and some we will not take into account.

          He twice mentioned the precedent of Kosovo in connection with the Crimea, while saying that Russia is not going to join anyone. And he is right. If we were going to join someone, it would be aggression. But if the people in a referendum decide to join Russia, then this is within the framework of international law. This is what Putin was talking about.

          He mentioned the creation of the armed forces in Crimea. This is generally an attribute of statehood. And Putin approved the "unity of the army with the people." This suggests that Crimea is no longer considered by us as part of Ukraine.

          Putin spoke of possible assistance to the entire Southeast. At the same time, it was clearly said that the main actions should be carried out by residents of these regions. The Russian army will be behind them. But it also means that if someone wants to Russian-speaking Ukrainians who overthrow the Western power to offend, then the army will come out from behind the people and break anyone.

          Putin did not recognize the presence of our special forces and its role in the seizure of administrative buildings. He called "polite people" self-defense fighters. This allows us to assume that the "self-defense fighters" will continue to continue their activities, only outside the Crimea. And somewhere in Kharkov, for example.
          It was a very balanced, thoughtful, prepared performance. And that's it.
          1. viktorR
            viktorR 4 March 2014 20: 32
            +8
            All of you correctly say, only we expect that he will patriotically wave a saber, and he will scare everyone. And he makes it even cooler, he scares with his calmness. Rather, it scares someone, and calms someone)
          2. Barrcode
            Barrcode 4 March 2014 22: 21
            +6
            Quote: tungus
            Putin said the whole thing.

            I will only add that Putin repeated several times and drew attention to such a moment: the West recognizes the so-called legitimate authority, referring to the fact that, as a result of the revolution, they seized power. We did not conclude agreements with such revolutionary authorities and, as a result, we didn’t conclude any violation of agreements, pacts, etc. and there can be no question. As a result of the fact that the West insists on legitimacy in the consequence of the revolution, he noted that, as history shows us, for example, 1917, new state formations may appear as a result of the revolution. And at that moment, shots of reports appeared right in front of my eyes as across the South-East and Crimea they hang the flag of the Russian Federation and are considering a law on simplified admission to the federation. wink
          3. ty60
            ty60 4 March 2014 23: 19
            +1
            minor reservations were present, possibly pre-planned.
          4. ty60
            ty60 4 March 2014 23: 19
            0
            minor reservations were present, possibly pre-planned.
          5. Skiff-2
            Skiff-2 5 March 2014 11: 27
            0
            Putin did not recognize the presence of our special forces and its role in the seizure of administrative buildings. He called "polite people" self-defense fighters. This allows us to assume that the "self-defense fighters" will continue to continue their activities, only outside the Crimea. And somewhere in Kharkov, for example.
            It was a very balanced, thoughtful, prepared performance. And that's it. [/ Quote]
            We are waiting for a visit of polite people.
      5. sds555
        sds555 4 March 2014 19: 20
        +3
        Here on this link, this situation is filmed from a different point and in more detail. Apparently, eight people still missed-http://ru.tsn.ua/video/video-novini/ukrainskih-voennyh-vernuvshihsya-v-belbek-vs
        tretili-avtomatnymi-ocheredyami.html
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      6. shurik
        shurik 4 March 2014 19: 21
        +5
        This is not the commander of the unit - this is the Pawn that is used.
      7. Russ69
        Russ69 4 March 2014 19: 36
        +2
        Quote: sds555
        That's what this is a provocation? !!! What does it have to do with America, with us, provocation or emotions? But then where are so many journalists from?

        Again, the same channel. The media war has begun in full ...

        The type of inhabitants of type Eupotia chose type from the bright one to either add up, or to take out their military town, to which type the military type replied that it was up to them to decide not, but rather to the type commander of the Black Sea Fleet type of Russia.

        1. bddrus
          bddrus 4 March 2014 20: 14
          +6
          I wonder what side the residents of the neighboring village are hindered by the military near the military?
        2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
          GELEZNII_KAPUT 4 March 2014 20: 36
          +7
          Played like in a cheap series!
        3. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 20: 53
          +3
          This is not a Russian soldier.
          1. Alex 241
            Alex 241 4 March 2014 21: 52
            +5
            Quote: Banshee
            This is not a Russian soldier.

            Roman agrees. Honestly, I have never seen a Russian officer in ESS CROSSBOW American ballistic points for 2500 rubles.
        4. Alex 241
          Alex 241 4 March 2014 21: 44
          +1
          ATR Channel: ATR is the first independent commercial Crimean Tatar channel. The channel began broadcasting on September 01, 2006. Broadcasting is conducted in three languages: Crimean Tatar, Ukrainian and Russian.
          The goal of the ATR creative team is to revive the language and culture of Crimean Tatars. The broadcasting program of the channel includes news releases, cartoons, entertainment, educational and educational programs in the Crimean Tatar language. Only on our channel you can see folk artists and young talents.
          Spectators are waiting for programs dedicated to veterans of the Crimean Tatar national movement, as well as programs affecting issues of religion and morality.
          The channel’s broadcasting area covers Simferopol and Simferopol district, Saki, Yevpatoriya, Razdolnensky and Krasnogvardeisky districts, as well as, partially, the Black Sea, Dzhankoy and Belogorsky districts. The channel plans to cover 80% of the territory of Crimea. Online you can watch the programs on our website atr.ua and on the website crimeantatars.org
          From September 1, 2011, our channel switched to a round-the-clock broadcasting mode. We are pleased that now our viewers will be able to fully appreciate the work of our team, which promotes interethnic tolerance, plays an important role in the development of the Crimean Tatar language and culture.
          Conclusions do you.
        5. vasiliysxx
          vasiliysxx 4 March 2014 21: 58
          +1
          gn .. yes fat with the colonel’s epaulettes, God forbid, the Nazis will come from Kiev, the first of this crowd to come to our fighters in order to save his skin.
        6. krpmlws
          krpmlws 4 March 2014 22: 22
          +1
          Why post provocative videos on this forum? Minus to you. Obviously, all civilians: the soldiers of this military base and their wives are zombified by Amer’s propaganda, they are not indigenous to the Crimea and do not reflect the mood of the Crimean population.
          1. Serg 122
            Serg 122 5 March 2014 00: 33
            +1
            military personnel of this military base and their wives are zombified by Amer’s propaganda
            Yes, maybe they told some kind of nonsense to the people, so they rushed ... But the fact that there were provocateurs among them - this is not to go to the fortuneteller ...
        7. Russian 77
          Russian 77 4 March 2014 23: 27
          +2
          "At the moment, I have strict instructions from the command, which is located in SEVASTOPOL" .... I'm damn it to the brothers (not in a figurative sense) living in Borispol tired of explaining on the phone "how do you imagine a march of Russian troops across the borders of Ukraine with modern means media (yu tube, ah background, pi zdets) and the further responsibility of the GDP for this ??? Isn't it easier to tell the local Crimeans to put on a uniform, which is full of everyone and drive off your hetman's view of blocking or whatever ...
      8. alexkross83
        alexkross83 4 March 2014 20: 08
        +14
        Pure provocation, especially from the political officer with a flag ... when he said about the Americans, my heart ached, I once studied with guys from Poltava, Sumy, Zaporozhye, Dnepropetrovsk ... they are the same also Russians, what nonsense ..... the airfield was taken under control long ago, this provocation was prepared in advance by those who did not want to go over to the side of Crimea. But what you need to have in your head to do the same with the same Russians as they are ..... the words are "America is with us" ugh .... a shame for the officer corps .....
        1. Very old
          Very old 4 March 2014 20: 44
          +3
          But YOU is the Moscow professor of history, who compared the situation "Russia-Crimea-Ukraine" with the Austrian Anschluss ...
          I do not mind for him
          They don’t take offense at disgust.
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 4 March 2014 23: 21
          +1
          Quote: alexkross83
          Pure water provocation, especially from the political party with the flag .....

          One thing is clear that these grief-warriors were thrown out of the gates of the airbase, and now, having "become accustomed" and "self-organized", they set out to take revenge with media support ...

          That's just the question begs:

          WHERE ARE THE BANNERS OF YOUR PARTS, Panov ?!
      9. sds555
        sds555 5 March 2014 01: 16
        +2
        A gang-watering can already marked on the Maidan bully
      10. sds555
        sds555 5 March 2014 01: 49
        0
        Found such a report, look
    4. 225chay
      225chay 4 March 2014 18: 55
      +8
      Quote: Energetic
      fascist experiment in one particular Slavic country.


      The special services of the West and in particular the USA are actively engaged in inciting and inciting hatred of some Slavs to others ...
      For the most part, Maydan activists and other leaders are recruited CIA agents
      One graduated in the 94th faculty of Inyaz from the US Department of Defense, the others are no better ...
    5. sub307
      sub307 4 March 2014 20: 02
      +2
      Well, on figs to play around: started writing ..., SS "Empty Head". And is THIS interesting to you .... What nonsense! The regrettable fact is that these "tyagniboks with yarosh" unfortunately represent (so far) a real force, with a clearly Nazi "tinge", capable of solving cases by violent methods, which they have demonstrated "successfully". I am silent about those who financed them, and so it is clear, I hope. There is no need for neo-Nazis to start “writing”: Adolf's proverbial “My struggle” (Mein Kampf) has not lost its relevance at all.
      And the question, to which for some reason no one has yet sounded a clear answer: why the hell did the movement and concentration of so many trained militants ("Empty Heads") just slap? Or maybe they deliberately ignored it? It is not clear somehow.
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    7. Geisenberg
      Geisenberg 4 March 2014 20: 37
      +4
      Quote: Energetic
      fascist experiment on one separately taken Slavic country. Interestingly, tyagnibok has not started writing "Ukrainian mein kampf" yet? here Yarosh is already engaged in the creation of the Zhovto-Blakit SS Legion "Empty Head" ...


      Bayan and not an experiment. Since 1945, everyone knows how it will end. They will not calm down until they are hung on birches ...
    8. de klermon
      de klermon 4 March 2014 21: 25
      +3
      Where will the Ukrainian army turn?
      Well, Crimean events have already shown where to turn ...
      45-50% will follow the example of Admiral Berezovsky, 35-40% will yank at home, well, to the Maidan 10-15%, in every society, not without crazy ...
      The catch is that, as the same Crimea showed: out of almost 40 fighters, 4 are "flying" ...
      PS I think that even Tyagnybok does not seriously consider the option of clashes, it’s just beyond good and evil, but the trouble is that there are enough terrorists like musicians, etc., and so, not the army, but the special services must fight! The Maidan is a copy of the horde of barbarians, and from the time of Tsar Leonid it is known: if the barbarian leader is deprived, the horde is falling apart!
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 4 March 2014 21: 47
        +1
        Representatives of the command of the Sevastopol brigade of surface ships, crews of the Ukrainian Navy ships Slavutich and Ternopol accused Russian President Vladimir Putin, who gave a press conference on Tuesday, of lying. Their appeal appeared on the website of the newspaper "Fleet of Ukraine".
        “... We consider ourselves competent to accuse the President of the Russian Federation of undisguised lies. Lies, which concerns the direct participation of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in those events that ... occur on the territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and in the city of Sevastopol, ”the statement says.
        It states that "not a single unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine deployed in the Crimea ... has surrendered even an inch of the territory of military units and military weapons entrusted to them."
        Ukrainian sailors promised to fulfill their military duty to the end and remain faithful to the people of Ukraine.

        They promised to fulfill .... Here you go ... And who demanded another from them ???
        1. gfs84
          gfs84 4 March 2014 22: 07
          0
          Sergey (sorry if you made a mistake), clarify that it was published in the newspaper "Ukrainian fleet" (sorry, it's funny), and replicated by the BBC)))
        2. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 5 March 2014 00: 06
          +2
          And I wonder where these glorious crews got this from:
          Quote: Serg 122
          "Not a single unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine deployed in Crimea ... has surrendered even an inch of the territory of military units and military weapons entrusted to them."
          Ukrainian sailors promised to fulfill their military duty to the end and remain faithful to the people of Ukraine.


          Well, they piled out of Sevastopol first laughing
        3. Serg65
          Serg65 5 March 2014 09: 31
          +5
          Quote: Serg 12
          It states that "not a single unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine deployed in the Crimea ... has surrendered even an inch of the territory of military units and military weapons entrusted to them."
          Ukrainian sailors promised to fulfill their military duty to the end and remain faithful to the people of Ukraine. [/ B
          [/ I]
          They promised to fulfill .... Here you go ... And who demanded another from them ???


          If the crews of U 209 Ternopil and U 510 Slavutich decided to fulfill their military duty to the end, then they had to, like the Varyag and the Korean, go to the outer raid and fight the "enemy" Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation, and not stand tied with ropes to wall and not shout from the tank about what kind of heroes they are! It seems that the lads still cannot decide to take off their epaulettes or wait, suddenly the power will change.
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 5 March 2014 12: 40
            +3
            Dear residents of Sevastopol, tell me where is the usual parking place for "Slavutich"? Google shows it at berth 14, if so, then why was it not easier to drive a tug to it through the gangway to board? Moreover, the side of the tug is much lower than the side of the NER. Something Zvyagintsev did not mention about grappling hooks and ladders what
    9. Rus2012
      Rus2012 4 March 2014 21: 45
      0
      Quote: Energetic
      fascist experiment in one particular Slavic country.


      The Ukrainian army has not yet spoken. Will he say - that’s the question ...
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    11. RUS96
      RUS96 5 March 2014 01: 16
      +1
      Russian invaders attacked the Ukrainian army. laughing
    12. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. 5 March 2014 14: 20
      0
      Yes, comrades military, you will have to think, only one question arises, it seems to me that you have a "gut", the military in Egypt, they saw where the Murik people were leading, they knocked them off at a stroke. As long as they don't touch you, but wait, they will take it out on you, all this pro-fascist bastard, all these bunnies, bunnies, tymoshenko, you are sworn in, but they put it on the constitution, and this is their oath, so make a deal of who to serve.
  2. Renat
    Renat 4 March 2014 18: 16
    +12
    Kerry has already flown to Kiev. Now will introduce direct control.
    1. IOwTZ
      IOwTZ 4 March 2014 18: 23
      +3
      Quote: Renat
      Kerry has already flown to Kiev. Now will introduce direct control.


      Johnny oh ye.
    2. IOwTZ
      IOwTZ 4 March 2014 19: 10
      +2
      Quote: Renat
      Kerry has already flown to Kiev. Now will introduce direct control.


      They are strange there "Behind the Big Puddle")))
      1. sarmat-4791
        sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 01: 17
        +1
        Will this three-bird meet again with Kerry (bokSER, rabbit, gay-natsik)?
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  3. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 4 March 2014 18: 21
    +1
    from the Don.
    Yes, all this is sad!
  4. Alexanderlaskov
    Alexanderlaskov 4 March 2014 18: 22
    +12
    After such humiliation of the golden eagle, I think the Ukrainian army will not really want to fight for the interests of the aligarchic illegal power of the maydanute animals.
  5. hrych
    hrych 4 March 2014 18: 24
    +30
    There is one more nuance, mobilization and war - terribly expensive things, those who are mobilized must be fed at least with little money and at least once a day, but they need fuel, etc., and Fukraina is like a bankrupt. How to fight the poor, I can’t imagine. And one more nuance, they did not gather to fight with anyone, but with a Russian soldier, so still zapadentsy people are idle.
    1. skeptic
      skeptic 4 March 2014 20: 50
      +7
      Quote: hrych
      and with a Russian soldier, so still zapadentsy people are idle.


      Well, it's you in vain. If a bunch, but from around the corner, they are very brave. The truth is a little modest, so they do dirty tricks, only in masks. Well, the first thing they did was achieve impunity - now they’re what the HEROES.
    2. Sergey Vl.
      Sergey Vl. 4 March 2014 21: 15
      +3
      Riddle: a word that begins with six consonants? EXCIT. In Lviv it is necessary to make a guess ...
    3. bddrus
      bddrus 5 March 2014 18: 06
      +1
      hello from those - so Yatsenyuk from Russia requires the promised loans))
  6. Russ69
    Russ69 4 March 2014 18: 26
    +1
    True or not, I don’t know ...

    02.03.2014/50/XNUMX Mr. Turchinov, in the presence of the ambassadors of the USA, Germany and Poland in Ukraine, signed a preliminary agreement with the IMF on the provision of financial assistance to Ukraine, according to which the entire gas transmission system of Ukraine as of the moment of signing the final main agreement on financial assistance is transferred free of charge to the American company Chevron, the owners Mariupol, Zaporizhzhya, Dnepropetrovsk metallurgical plants are required to transfer XNUMX% of the shares of companies to the German company Ruhr, the coal production of Donbass is also transferred to the Finnish daughter of Ruhr! Also, in addition to political requirements, the signed document contains a clause on the provision to the NATO bloc of territories near Kharkov for the deployment of American missile defense systems, American fighter aviation links to cover missile defense facilities !!

    http://ukr-press.ru/index.php?page=item&id=20
    1. Not served
      Not served 4 March 2014 18: 49
      +7
      He now signs it, and then using these pieces of paper as an excuse they will drag through the courts and the UN, the NATO Council as a matter of fact, the occupation of Ukraine. As it was in Iraq, in fact, according to the fake report, they destroyed the country and took away oil. Something is not heard of the attacks in the oil fields and pipelines with ports. But in cities, civilians explode regularly.
    2. Orc-xnumx
      Orc-xnumx 4 March 2014 18: 57
      0
      Sounds ominous!
    3. cumastra1
      cumastra1 4 March 2014 19: 15
      +6
      Well, the sale of the "body" has begun at a reasonable price. Prostitutes ....
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    5. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 4 March 2014 20: 31
      0
      A great reason to slam all this St. Hour in Kiev!
    6. nomad74
      nomad74 5 March 2014 03: 51
      0
      In addition to political requirements, the signed document contains a clause on the provision to the NATO bloc of territories near Kharkov for the deployment of American missile defense systems, American fighter aviation links and for covering missile defense facilities !! [/ i]

      http://ukr-press.ru/index.php?page=item&id=20[/quote]

      If so then this is an ass! These cattle from Rada bring the world closer to war!
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  7. svp67
    svp67 4 March 2014 18: 28
    +19
    Everything is not so simple ... And the army, without INSIDE INSIDE, a political conflict will still defend Ukraine, at least from us ... And this should be taken normally, since for 23 years of independence they were able to raise a generation of young people who hate Russia. ..and we did nothing to change this attitude towards ourselves, and only now we realized ...
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  9. ssf2257
    ssf2257 4 March 2014 18: 31
    +20
    Difficult question. The army appeared in Crimea, but in Ukraine it seems to have evaporated.
    1. RND
      RND 4 March 2014 19: 18
      +13
      Quote: ssf2257
      Difficult question. The army appeared in Crimea, but in Ukraine it seems to have evaporated.

      Sir! Yes, you are a genius! With tongue removed. hi
      Let me formulate in the hope of co-authorship.
      "The law of preservation of the Ukrainian Army: if the Army disappears in Ukraine, then as a result, it appears in the Crimea!"
      You are a plus! hi
    2. GELEZNII_KAPUT
      GELEZNII_KAPUT 4 March 2014 20: 38
      +3
      Quote: ssf2257
      Difficult question. The army appeared in Crimea, but in Ukraine it seems to have evaporated.

      So they will liberate Ukraine!
    3. svp67
      svp67 4 March 2014 23: 32
      0
      Quote: ssf2257
      Difficult question. The army appeared in Crimea, but in Ukraine it seems to have evaporated.
      You are right, the question is really difficult, because with the same speed this transformation can happen in the opposite direction ... The realities of Ukraine - yesterday the airbase in Belbek swore allegiance to Crimea, today, as soon as it became known that the "armed educated people" are not Russian special forces , and the self-defense forces of Crimea, decided to recall the oath of Ukraine ...
  10. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 4 March 2014 18: 32
    +4
    Most likely, ordinary people are now in shock. He is intimidated by this evil spirits. And in the army - the same people, with their own lives, families and children. To organize an army to seize power, you need a leader. He is not there, unfortunately.
  11. Strashila
    Strashila 4 March 2014 18: 32
    +13
    With the Ukrainian army, everything is not just like that ... all the information bases on military personnel and not only on them fell into the hands of the Natsiks. It is possible to understand the military in the same Crimea who have not yet switched to the side of Autonomy, not all natives of Crimea and not everyone has a family here ... and not the fact that they were not threatened by their future from Kiev.
    Patience and patience to all at this difficult time.
    1. kghostya
      kghostya 4 March 2014 20: 11
      -41%
      What "Natsik" we do not have. Complete lack of awareness!
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 20: 56
        +4
        No Natsik with dressings like that? Yellow with black broken crosses?
        Provocations?
        Okay, not Natsik, but Bandera. It’s like the same eggs, only a side view.
      2. viktorR
        viktorR 4 March 2014 21: 02
        +1
        Yah? Who's that?
        http://vk.com/berkutu_and_vv?z=video-56983085_167640343%2Fb210c3c9ca9e30b759
        http://vk.com/berkutu_and_vv?z=video-56983085_167640337%2F46d475d5193b52b336
        http://vk.com/berkutu_and_vv?z=video-56983085_167640331%2F0748a37af23ac785fd
        http://vk.com/berkutu_and_vv?z=video-56983085_167640316%2F5e6c0c8464579a3956
        http://vk.com/berkutu_and_vv?z=video-56983085_167640312%2F333b94bd323b161eca
      3. viktorR
        viktorR 4 March 2014 21: 04
        +2
        Comrade, just registered, information war fighter
      4. Serg 122
        Serg 122 4 March 2014 21: 53
        +4
        What "Natsik" we do not have. Complete lack of awareness!
        Self-critical! And you have to be aware. It's time....
      5. Serg65
        Serg65 5 March 2014 09: 53
        +4
        Well, what are you attacking a man, he is right, what "Nazis"? Stepa Bandera was an ordinary caretaker at a Carpathian ski resort, caught stealing biscuits from a German tourist group. The German police, under the threat of being sent to Norway (as cold as in Siberia), forced Styopa to wear a German uniform, the uniform was hefty and Stepan liked it so much that even after the Germans left, he did not take it off, showing off in front of the local dyvchens. But happiness was not long ... Russian tourists arrived drinks angry fellow and upon refusal to share good-quality clothes, Stepan was soaked in a drunken stabbing. Well, what kind of "Natsik" is he? The boy just didn’t know that the question "do you respect me?" you have to answer "I respect", and not hide your jacket under the bench ... fool
      6. MBA78
        MBA78 5 March 2014 15: 21
        0
        the striped worm "kos" ... already on the hook ... I wonder what kind of fish is eating you
        1. MBA78
          MBA78 5 March 2014 17: 21
          0
          striped worm "braid" - kghostya
  12. siberalt
    siberalt 4 March 2014 18: 33
    +3
    They gnaw through like spiders in a jar. Who will sponsor them now? This enterprise is becoming too smelly. In addition, there is no guarantee that money will not be stolen.
    1. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 5 March 2014 10: 24
      0
      Quote: siberalt
      In addition, there is no guarantee that money will not be stolen.

      There is a 100% guarantee that money is stolen. Americans always give money only when they are sure that everything will be stolen. Feed someone is not in their principles. They only feed. In addition, they receive powerful leverage over sponsored corrupt officials.
  13. moremansf
    moremansf 4 March 2014 18: 35
    +5
    I think that the military, like the Berkut, will figure out who is who and take the only correct decision ...
  14. parus2nik
    parus2nik 4 March 2014 18: 38
    +5
    Good things will not end when the army is cowardly silent ... except in the Crimea ...
  15. IOwTZ
    IOwTZ 4 March 2014 18: 43
    +19
    Today, Putin said that we are signaling the people of Ukraine. So Ukrainians organize themselves, take an example from the Crimea.
    1. Ivan_Ivanov
      Ivan_Ivanov 4 March 2014 18: 47
      +21
      .
      We need professionally trained organizers. Like in the Crimea.
      .
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 4 March 2014 18: 58
      -12%
      Quote: IOwTZ
      Today, Putin said that we are sending a signal to the people of Ukraine.

      It would be better if Putin was silent, than he said such crap. Yes, even to lie that this is not our soldiers, what is the meaning of this lie. Now it is easy to prove through all channels that this is ours and they will yell everything, that Russia is lying. his interview and why did it all.
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        Nevsky_ZU 4 March 2014 19: 01
        +21
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: IOwTZ
        Today, Putin said that we are sending a signal to the people of Ukraine.

        It would be better if Putin was silent, than he said such crap. Yes, even to lie that this is not our soldiers, what is the meaning of this lie. Now it is easy to prove through all channels that this is ours and they will yell everything, that Russia is lying. his interview and why did it all.


        And it seemed to me that he patrolled. Especially when he said that military uniforms can be bought in the store. Do not want to give legal clues?
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 4 March 2014 19: 01
        +57
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        It would be better if Putin was silent, than he said such crap. Yes, even to lie that this is not our soldiers, what is the meaning of this lie. Now it is easy to prove through all channels that this is ours and they will yell everything, that Russia is lying. his interview and why did it all.

        That's right, he is a politician in the first place. And he would make a show with a vest break, would be a clown ...

        By the way, about the militia ...

        1. rOpe
          rOpe 4 March 2014 19: 28
          +31
          Patient, well-trained young man ... Well, the Tatars can be understood from under Ukraine, you can escape, but from under Russia you can’t escape ... That’s why they provoke.
        2. flc9800
          flc9800 4 March 2014 19: 59
          +30
          I draw the attention of the members of the forum to absolute calm, ironic logic, patience, indulgence to clearly provocative issues of journalism! Great respect! Just handsome! If these guys are in self-defense, everything should work out in the Crimea!
        3. Ivan_Ivanov
          Ivan_Ivanov 4 March 2014 20: 00
          +24
          .
          Well done man. He spoke perfectly !!!
          .
        4. Des10
          Des10 4 March 2014 20: 19
          +15
          Bravo! So, without respite, it’s argued, not annoyed - to answer!
          Solid optimism in my heart! )
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        6. postman
          postman 4 March 2014 20: 23
          +8
          Quote: Russ69
          By the way, about the militia ...


          Great repo.
          It’s a pity they will not show in Ukraine, and in the West the same
        7. alexkross83
          alexkross83 4 March 2014 20: 28
          +7
          Thank you for the video! The guy is just a real patriot, and legally savvy.
        8. Serg 122
          Serg 122 4 March 2014 21: 00
          +3
          In my opinion: everything is beautiful, clear and without a squeal explained. Despite provocations zhurnalyugi
        9. Flooding
          Flooding 4 March 2014 21: 29
          +6
          Clever Vasily Semenyuk, made an impression.
          1. bigELDAK
            bigELDAK 5 March 2014 14: 46
            +3
            Semenyuk for president, zhurnalyug on the bench !!! good
        10. muginov2015
          muginov2015 4 March 2014 21: 36
          +3
          Just handsome ! I understand that the Tatars from the local channel interviewed him? rather provoked, or rather .Xm, if so, then once again showed their rotten essence.
        11. GP
          GP 4 March 2014 21: 58
          +2
          Explains explaining the situation in Crimea. This video probably needs to be brought out in a separate topic, otherwise it will be lost in the comments.
        12. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 4 March 2014 22: 50
          +4
          Quote: Russ69
          By the way, about the militia.

          Ah, what a literate kid, flint, ”the Tatar spread out, like a dumb street vendor. Tatar now, a hundred uphill y-s-r-alsya. Well, if in the Crimea the militias are so trained, then what will happen next? Faster in the Crimea you need to finish everything so that the stsuki don't come to their senses.
        13. sarmat-4791
          sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 02: 11
          +1
          Yes, he can be sent from Ukraine as a permanent representative to the UN! Ay. well done guy! It is clear that the channel wanted to get the right answers to the right questions, even I realized what they wanted to hear. However, bummer, sir. Therefore, the correspondents (mediocrity) and jumped off their questions. Reminiscent of the interview of Father Lukashenko to the Washington Post newspaper.
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        15. nomad74
          nomad74 5 March 2014 04: 14
          +2
          Yes, not every junior officer can speak like that! More such self-defenders would be attached to each unit! And then a provocation for a provocation!
      3. jjj
        jjj 4 March 2014 19: 16
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Cho, he got his interview and why did all this.

        This is an intermission between actions. Apparently, some crisis has passed, why not talk
      4. velikoros-xnumx
        velikoros-xnumx 4 March 2014 19: 21
        -5
        Everything is now at least clear about what, I have not heard that yet. An unfortunate and incomprehensible mistake, strange for Putin. Although the old woman finds a bail.
      5. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
        Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 4 March 2014 20: 40
        +7
        Everyone knows who is who. It's just that Putin began to do the same thing as our Western "friends", that is, to say what is beneficial to us, and not to the enemy. And we cannot find fault with his words. After all, the Americans keep quiet about the Marines in Kiev.
        1. I read the news
          I read the news 4 March 2014 20: 55
          +2
          come on you. just the soldiers are worried about their families - everyone remembers the fate of the golden eagle from the Maidan.
      6. vlum
        vlum 4 March 2014 21: 20
        0
        I agree. I was very surprised at certain points. Some places were very good. But in general, the impression that he is reassuring someone, although there was no reason for calm as never was.

        I'm sad. I don’t want to voice exactly where the weak points are.
        But it is obvious that they hoped for an impromptu answer and didn’t work out some specific questions.
      7. svp67
        svp67 4 March 2014 23: 42
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        It would be better if Putin was silent than said such crap. Yes, and to lie that these are not our soldiers, what is the point of this lie

        It’s hard to understand, but I think that soon everything will become clear ...
        From myself I can notice:
        - that the overwhelming majority of European countries (by the way, our main economic partners) "accepted our rules of the game"
        - be that as it may, but Russia has shown its capabilities, namely, in just six hours to take control of Crimea, this is a very good result ... and it already makes many people think a lot. Note - NOT ONE country in the world did not want to provide armed assistance to Ukraine.
        - And lastly, special forces are special forces, their work should generally be quiet - the result is loud, but no one should know people or surnames for the time being ... And glory comes to them only ....
  16. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 4 March 2014 18: 46
    +13
    What are you doing Herods? Why is the Swedish J.35 Draken mocking what he did to you? How not ashamed ...



    Could something have found another picture and dishonored an honest fighter? Ukraine and Sweden have only the color of the flag in common, which, incidentally, the Swedes invented for Ukrainians under Charles XII, to distinguish their Cossacks ...

    Here is another picture closer to reality ...
  17. Renat
    Renat 4 March 2014 18: 49
    +12
    The information was about the desire of Kherson, Odessa and several other regions of Ukraine to join the Crimean autonomy.
    1. DMB87
      DMB87 4 March 2014 22: 10
      +21
      Probably something like this:
      1. ty60
        ty60 4 March 2014 23: 31
        +2
        My forecast is almost identical, but Kiev will be beaten to Kym too. Lviv, Ternopil Zhytomyr Khmelnitsky Vinnitsa -Rip will ripen for a long time, and very painful. Already passed. They may not ripen until something to eat.
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  18. andrei332809
    andrei332809 4 March 2014 18: 49
    +3
    At one time he graduated from the Leningrad Higher Naval School named after M.V. Frunze

    elite school was winked
    1. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 4 March 2014 19: 55
      +2
      only this particular cadet was taught poorly
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 4 March 2014 20: 40
        0
        Quote: wasjasibirjac
        only this particular cadet was taught poorly

        well, they didn’t knock him in his second year
  19. Orc-xnumx
    Orc-xnumx 4 March 2014 18: 52
    +1
    The Ukrainian Army is already voting with its feet!
  20. saag
    saag 4 March 2014 18: 53
    0
    Quote: Novel 1977
    What about Swedish J.35 Draken? Are you kidding me?

    And why did they tear him from Mirage 2000? :-)
    1. Roman 1977
      Roman 1977 4 March 2014 18: 59
      +2
      Learn the materiel ...

      J.35 Draken- first flight: 1955 year
      http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/j35.html


      Mirage 2000 - first flight: 1978 year.
      http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fighter/mirag2.html

      So, rather, the French at the Swedes tore him up.
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 4 March 2014 20: 34
        +1
        I support. SAAB is still an innovator, sorry cars stopped releasing sad
      2. Horst78
        Horst78 4 March 2014 20: 34
        0
        I support. SAAB is still an innovator, sorry cars stopped releasing sad
  21. matross
    matross 4 March 2014 18: 54
    +9
    You don't need to be Nostradamus to make a 100% prediction: the Ukrainian Armed Forces will exactly repeat the body movements of Ukraine itself. The units deployed in the southeast-will leave the subordination of Kiev, in the west-to swear allegiance to Bandera. In the case of attracting those and others to active actions - to decompose and scatter. The ukrobatalion of "myth-makers" in Iraq has already covered itself with Indelible Glory to Ukraine! laughing Mentality s ...
    1. ty60
      ty60 4 March 2014 23: 42
      0
      however, to kill and rob in the joint zone is by all means. Small groups and sometimes the poorest objects. Farms, sparsely populated villages. Sometimes it is sane to sow fear with insane cruelty.
  22. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 4 March 2014 19: 06
    -12%
    The most efficient and important units have long been formed mainly from the western regions. And the officer corps has long been cleared of Soviet and pro-Russian ones, and the young were even born in the Nezalezhnaya and from childhood they were treated in the key - "our damned fat zili". Incl. if there is a war, Ukraine will have an army, it will be armed and supplied with advisers. Not like in Georgia, but normal, but Slavic fighters are not "timid Georgians fled."
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 21: 01
      +3
      With your lips and tongue screw ...

      Quote: chunga-changa
      if there is a war the army will have Ukraine, it will be equipped and equipped with advisers.


      If there will be an army. So far, something is not visible.
    2. matross
      matross 4 March 2014 21: 27
      0
      Chunga is right in many respects, except for the conclusion about the "Slavic fighters", in vain minus ...
    3. vlum
      vlum 4 March 2014 21: 42
      +2
      Such units, even if they exist, are not the Army of Ukraine!
      PMCs or combat hundreds of the "Right Sector", maybe the regiments of the "Right Sector" - that's how you need to put emphasis.

      Surely, those same 600 military instructors that were written about at politicus, they would not have arrived if they had not had the assessment that they would succeed in recruiting some potential number of recruits to be trained.

      And why minus it if this opinion is higher that there is already a Black-and-Yellow force against the East?
  23. Pancreas
    Pancreas 4 March 2014 19: 08
    +8
    On Ukrainian channels in the Ukrainian media they will be hysterical about the Russian interference. They are talking about millions of zombie Russians. They call Putin Hitler (?! is this someone else a fascist?).
    So, Russia has once again confirmed its status of Absolute Evil - a settler and patron of the most disgusting scum from around the world, on the one hand, and the enemy of everything free and progressive, on the other. The worst, but at the same time the most probable forecasts came true - Russia took Yanukovych to her (and calls for executioners from Berkut to work) and, much worse, unleashed aggression in Crimea. Yuri Nesterenko, published in the Rufabula publication - http://argumentua.com/stati/rossiya-kak-absolyutnoe-zlo-nedaleko-do-mirovoi

    However, the blame for all the miscalculations of their power is passed on to us, they ascribe to the Russian government the scenarios that the Ukrainian leadership embodies under the dictation of the United States.
  24. Oleg Volkov
    Oleg Volkov 4 March 2014 19: 23
    +15
    russia24 showed bloggers' locations around the globe with the label "Maidan". In Russia the average intensity, in Ukraine too. The highest round-the-clock activity is Warsaw, Britain and the islands near America, where a military base is located. So someone just came here to express their opinion, and someone at work.
    Hello rat american
    1. starhina01
      starhina01 4 March 2014 21: 20
      0
      thanks keen eye good how did you all suddenly turn my hat on hi
  25. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 4 March 2014 19: 23
    -17%
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: IOwTZ
    Today, Putin said that we are sending a signal to the people of Ukraine.

    It would be better if Putin was silent, than he said such crap. Yes, even to lie that this is not our soldiers, what is the meaning of this lie. Now it is easy to prove through all channels that this is ours and they will yell everything, that Russia is lying. his interview and why did it all.

    In the same opinion .. Today I just praised him for his silence and action .. it is correct that he is silent .. (they are chatting after all ..) And then ... I was chatting not in the subject at all .. now the screeching in the media began, Mom, don't cry! And so it all started well .. "Silence is golden ..!" as the ancient sages said!
    1. IOwTZ
      IOwTZ 4 March 2014 20: 40
      +10
      Quote: MIKHAN
      In the same opinion .. Today I just praised him for his silence and action .. it is correct that he is silent .. (they are chatting after all ..) And then ... I was chatting not in the subject at all .. now the screeching in the media began, Mom, don't cry! And so it all started well .. "Silence is golden ..!" as the ancient sages said!


      Listen, "Marshal" Vasya, have you sniffed your socks again? Your slogans are Khrushchev's, and sometimes panicky (like we'll get to Washington, we'll take Crimea, or a little Ukrainian ship turned towards Sevastopol, you immediately press your point and ask if there will be a naughty ?) sane people will probably be funny (to put it mildly). And the fact that you praised the president for his silence, and he took it and "talked" - what a horror, Vitalik should have been listened to. You do not have to know what is in your head Putin is a man, with his own principles and worldview. There is a core in him. Putin spoke like a politician, using the Aesopian language, and here you can clearly see a multi-move, offensive-retreat and achieving your goals with the hands of "partners" (like in judo). "deep" chess game, where we have to beat according to their rules.
    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 4 March 2014 20: 41
      -8
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Quote: IOwTZ
      Today, Putin said that we are sending a signal to the people of Ukraine.

      It would be better if Putin was silent, than he said such crap. Yes, even to lie that this is not our soldiers, what is the meaning of this lie. Now it is easy to prove through all channels that this is ours and they will yell everything, that Russia is lying. his interview and why did it all.

      In the same opinion .. Today I just praised him for his silence and action .. it is correct that he is silent .. (they are chatting after all ..) And then ... I was chatting not in the subject at all .. now the screeching in the media began, Mom, don't cry! And so it all started well .. "Silence is golden ..!" as the ancient sages said!

      What are you minus? Well, seriously, Putin said something wrong .. and his humor was not appropriate ..! Lavrov Churkin fellows all clearly argued ..! Now for Russia, the most difficult one can say a turning point .. and you need to follow the languages! There is no time for humor .. I think so all the more to Putin!
    3. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 21: 06
      +7
      No, dear, you are clearly not that ...
      Putin went on the offensive on all fronts.
      In general terms, everything is very logical and beautiful.
      Do not forget that no one broadcasts our channels on the other side.
      Now squealing to raise will be difficult. Churkin at the UN presses Sergeyev so that that nonsense carries naked. About the Nuremberg trials. Lavrov is also like the Brest Fortress.
      All true.

      You can’t play the info war. But the channels are channels, and at the highest level, everything is going according to plan.
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 4 March 2014 21: 45
        0
        Quote: Banshee
        No, dear, you are clearly not that ...
        Putin went on the offensive on all fronts.
        In general terms, everything is very logical and beautiful.
        Do not forget that no one broadcasts our channels on the other side.
        Now squealing to raise will be difficult. Churkin at the UN presses Sergeyev so that that nonsense carries naked. About the Nuremberg trials. Lavrov is also like the Brest Fortress.
        All true.

        You can’t play the info war. But the channels are channels, and at the highest level, everything is going according to plan.

        I hope that you are right .. But Putin was clearly not in the spirit ..
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        1. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 4 March 2014 23: 08
          +3
          Quote: MIKHAN
          ..But Putin was clearly not in the spirit ..

          Dear MIKHAN, please have a smoke and calm down, otherwise you’ll be blown up by the analysis of Putin’s mistakes. tongue
          1. jjj
            jjj 5 March 2014 01: 12
            0
            Let's compare some details.
            1. There were a lot of stringers from the Western media. The number of information provocations is increasing. It is not pursued in any way.
            2. A lot of the personnel of the Ukrainian army, the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the SBU went over to the side of the Crimea. In this connection, the formation of self-defense units was stopped. They say there will be enough troops. But we saw in the videos what kind of troops they were. There is no certainty that those who have gone over to the side of Crimea will serve to the last drop. In fact, only "Berkut" and self-defense units, plus Polite people, remain loyal units.
            3. The Parliament of Crimea began a dialogue with the Rada on the constitutional structure. At the same time, the head of the Crimean parliament declared readiness for international guarantees under the auspices of the OSCE.
            4. The active phase of actions of the Crimeans ends. Everything flows into traditional Ukrainian viscous "body movements".
            One can assume: is this not the end of Crimean autonomy? Could the Crimeans themselves surrender everything that they have achieved?
  26. Russ69
    Russ69 4 March 2014 19: 28
    +2
    I don’t understand ... and in Crimea, they started backstage negotiations ... request

    Deputies of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine following a meeting with representatives of the Crimean parliament agreed to create a working group to prepare amendments to the constitution of Crimea. On Tuesday, March 4, the Interfax news agency reported with reference to the deputy from the Party of Regions Nestor Shufrich.
    According to him, at the meeting, representatives of the Crimea voiced issues raised by the parliament of the republic and its population. Shufrich did not specify the essence of these questions. After this conversation, it was decided to create an inter-parliamentary group that would study the possibility of changing the constitution of Crimea in order to expand the powers of the republic.


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  27. not main
    not main 4 March 2014 19: 34
    +6
    When the situation in the state is nowhere worse: the only salvation is the external enemy! And for Ukraine it is not necessary to look for him in the east! Moreover, for the last 20 years only this has been sucked in!
    1. kghostya
      kghostya 4 March 2014 20: 15
      -25%
      What is the external enemy? Have we attacked you?
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 21: 14
        +9
        But we did not attack you. If they attacked, they would have already stood in Kiev.
      2. revnagan
        revnagan 4 March 2014 21: 18
        +10
        Quote: kghostya
        Have we attacked you?

        Bandera's followers attacked Ukraine. They seized power and yelled "MOSCAAlIv - for knives !!!" Russia should wait until they turn from words to deeds? However, they got down to deeds, the scale is not yet the same. The question is - who are you with those who are ready to slaughter families of "non-titular", or against. There is no third. With whom are you? With the Uniate, Greek Catholic Church, whose priests broadcast from all Ukrainian channels, or with the Orthodox faith of their Zaporozhian ancestors? With the descendants of those who came with the Germans to kill Ukrainians, or with the descendants of those who, shoulder to shoulder with the Ukrainians, defended Ukraine from complete extermination by the Ottomans? Who are you? - everyone must ask themselves resident of Ukraine. With those people who were already in power, ran into the sides, washed away, and now he is back again and is ready to sell the country, its not yet born generations into bondage? There is either something. And there is no golden mean.
  28. Dzhanych
    Dzhanych 4 March 2014 19: 56
    +7
    Something was remembered ...
  29. psychologist
    psychologist 4 March 2014 19: 56
    +2
    there’s almost nothing to turn there !! complete collapse!
    1. kghostya
      kghostya 4 March 2014 20: 18
      -52%
      We must thank Putin and Yanukovych who led our army to such a state. But our fighting spirit cannot be broken. We will protect our country
      1. vlum
        vlum 4 March 2014 20: 40
        +7
        Your enemy is fascism!
      2. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 21: 09
        +21
        Yes, go ahead.

        Especially Putin has laid out your army. And, apparently, also raped, judging by the condition in which your planes are at airfields.
        It is clear that Putin was the one who let the tires go and stole fuel.

        Indeed, your country must be protected. And first of all - from the Nazis. In the second - from such morons here.
      3. revnagan
        revnagan 4 March 2014 21: 21
        +8
        Quote: kghostya
        But our fighting spirit cannot be broken.

        Yeah, especially after the pea porridge. Such a spirit, at least take out the saints. And if God forbid to shoot, then generally full pants will be "spirit". Bandera, they are such, seven armed families with many children are not afraid. Heroes.
      4. Maks-80
        Maks-80 4 March 2014 21: 30
        +6
        Heroam Salo
        1. ty60
          ty60 4 March 2014 23: 51
          0
          no, not greased with fat, in the aft compartment hole
        2. ty60
          ty60 4 March 2014 23: 51
          0
          no, not greased with fat, in the aft compartment hole
      5. alex-s
        alex-s 4 March 2014 21: 53
        +2
        But our fighting spirit cannot be broken. We will protect our country

        Go eat a pill! You, campaign, exacerbation of spring has begun! fool
      6. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 4 March 2014 23: 18
        +3
        Quote: kghostya
        But our fighting spirit cannot be broken. We will protect our country

        Do you hear the undergone bullshit? When we arrive, you will not be able to find you with a hundred dogs, even if they are allowed to sniff your ob-o-ra-chany. So there’s nothing to bring people here, better go a dugout swarm, but deeper.
      7. sarmat-4791
        sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 02: 32
        0
        Putin destroyed the army; unknown "Russian tourists" raise the flags of Russia in Donetsk and teach wisdom to the narco-Bandera people in Kharkov; "polite people" guard the Ukrainian military units (so they don't run away?). Oh, the Ukrainian government is strong!
      8. tank64rus
        tank64rus 5 March 2014 08: 03
        +1
        Yes, boy, you generally understand who you are dealing with. Putin brought your army to this state. Rave. On the contrary, Russia would always be satisfied with a strong army of a friendly country, the example of Belarus. In general, everything that is happening in Ukraine has behind it the interests of the United States in conquering Siberia and, most importantly, the Russian Arctic, there, apparently, is the world cave of Ali Baba. Therefore, the project of information war, recoding of the people, was brought to life. The first experiment they conducted on their own people back in the 70s after Vietnam it was necessary to remove the rebels from the streets. Now it was necessary to turn the Ukrainian people into a people hostile to the fraternal, which is happening now and in the future to use it as "cannon fodder", although there is no return that was expected. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin yesterday told reporters about foreign laboratories for which people are experimental animals, it means they know what about the methods and methods of information-psychological warfare. It is necessary to protect your country from Beni Morda and Yarosh, by the way what a touching unity who would have thought. And not from his brothers, who have declared a war of destruction.
  30. morozof63
    morozof63 4 March 2014 20: 01
    +7
    Poles can play out with their games with Bandera, you can see the story (43 years of Volyn) taught them nothing
    1. Renat
      Renat 4 March 2014 20: 04
      +3
      Pshek enemies number 2 after us. Ukraine and Poland have many long-standing land disputes.
  31. Normman
    Normman 4 March 2014 20: 02
    +2
    Oh, something today my soul is not in place, some premonition is not good ...
  32. delfinN
    delfinN 4 March 2014 20: 04
    +1
    A tough conversation started:
  33. indiggo
    indiggo 4 March 2014 20: 04
    +3
    Well, let's judge soberly, even if Turchinov leaked Ukraine and signed up for the base, it’s not a fact that it will appear here. second moment The Russian population as soon as they find out about this a real panic will begin.
  34. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 4 March 2014 20: 12
    +14
    First, Putin is behaving more politically correct than he could. Everyone understands perfectly well that this is a violent seizure of power and here one could behave more harshly. They simply do not want unnecessary bloodshed, the more that it is really unclear how the military conscripts from western Ukraine will behave. And the fact that not only young people were brainwashed there proves a lot, for example, my friend was called by her mother living in Kiev and accused Russia of occupation! Formally, Russia has the right to protect Russians on the territory of Ukraine, but it depends more on the people of Ukrvina! In short, guys from Ukraine, an appeal to you! Start the fight against banderlog yourself, but it will be difficult, we will help drinks
    1. kghostya
      kghostya 4 March 2014 20: 26
      -41%
      And who attacks the Russians? I live in the northeast and also believe that Russia is occupying us. This is your army and Putin is provoking our soldiers.
      1. Field
        Field 4 March 2014 21: 03
        +3
        And then what happened and is happening in Kiev?
        Who provokes whom?
        Who will occupy you? personally you?
        1. Olegovi4
          Olegovi4 4 March 2014 23: 17
          +2
          Quote: Field
          what happened in Kiev then

          Well, you, this is democracy, to embroider it in the root.
      2. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 21: 11
        +8
        Oh, but without capital letters, okay?
        You count anything.
        But I think that a pack of beggars and ragged soldiers cannot be considered Soldiers.

        And nobody attacks the Russians, yes. we saw that too. And nobody attacked the Berkuts. They are themselves.

        Come on out.
      3. Black
        Black 4 March 2014 21: 19
        +6
        Quote: kghostya
        I live in the northeast and also believe that Russia is occupying us.

        What are you hysterical? Live, nobody touches you. And the troops have not yet entered.
        Take care of the peace and tranquility, do not break paving stones, do not hit the police officers who are on duty, do not break into the buildings of power, do not drag the prosecutor's tie by the tie, do not share Russians with non-Russians according to the principle "Who does not jump is not ours", behave like a person and Russia won't come to put you in a corner.
      4. Rebus
        Rebus 4 March 2014 21: 50
        +3
        Quote: kghostya
        This is your army and Putin is provoking our soldiers.

        When there is no army, terry pathos remains ...
        Show me that "the steadfast soldier"which Putin in every possible way provokes.
      5. alex-s
        alex-s 4 March 2014 21: 56
        +1
        I repeat again: go eat a pill! You, campaign, exacerbation of spring has begun! fool
      6. GP
        GP 4 March 2014 22: 07
        +1
        Quote: kghostya
        And who attacks the Russians? I live in the northeast and also believe that Russia is occupying us. This is your army and Putin is provoking our soldiers.


        Who is occupying you? Where?
        Not a single Russian military man with weapons outside the bases is visible.
        I’m browsing Ukrainian sites, Internet runs thereеWe wind up each other, they will hurt.
        Mantras are mantras, but it is useful to have your head on your shoulders.
      7. krpmlws
        krpmlws 4 March 2014 22: 28
        +1
        Quote: kghostya
        And who attacks the Russians? I live in the northeast and also believe that Russia is occupying us. This is your army and Putin is provoking our soldiers.

        Hold on to Judas, go and have already worked your silverware overseas, it's time to buy.
      8. ty60
        ty60 5 March 2014 00: 14
        +1
        It’s you who dreams of cheap gas provoke so that after pea porridge in fat, blow into the pipe with the whole farm ... Yes, that’s enough for a week. Don’t put any bad leaders, work for yourself. And for your free cheese, your children with the Yankees will pay
      9. ty60
        ty60 5 March 2014 00: 14
        0
        It’s you who dreams of cheap gas provoke so that after pea porridge in fat, blow into the pipe with the whole farm ... Yes, that’s enough for a week. Don’t put any bad leaders, work for yourself. And for your free cheese, your children with the Yankees will pay
      10. 311ove
        311ove 5 March 2014 01: 33
        0
        Yes, you do not live, you exist, louse trench! Che do you know about life, except grandmas ??! Come on, tired !!!
      11. sarmat-4791
        sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 02: 37
        +2
        Familiar rhetoric, like the Baltic states. It is necessary, kghostya to work on an accent still. There is no length, gentle distortion of letters and sound depth.
  35. konvalval
    konvalval 4 March 2014 20: 13
    +6
    Quote: Renat
    Kerry has already flown to Kiev. Now will introduce direct control.

    Kerya, of course, may introduce a direct one, but who will she manage? And if Yarosh is offended or Sasha’s beaten for management? Will it not be with him that with that prosecutor in Bandera?
    1. Serg 122
      Serg 122 4 March 2014 22: 04
      +3
      And 600 marines for what? Is Sascha di Bilogo going to fail? ....
      1. 311ove
        311ove 5 March 2014 01: 36
        0
        Quote: Serg 122
        And 600 marines for what? Is Sascha di Bilogo going to fail? ....
        Apparently, here the options are already possible .... laughing
      2. Vladimir73
        Vladimir73 5 March 2014 11: 24
        0
        Of course they are afraid, they didn’t take away the machine laughing
  36. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 4 March 2014 20: 19
    +2
    A week later, another loud statement and a sudden check of combat readiness in the border region with aviation along the ribbon and other noise effects. And so several times in different areas.
    And ALL of the armed forces, fuel and moboresources - as well as money ... At the same time, OURS will fulfill the BP plan.
  37. rocketman
    rocketman 4 March 2014 20: 24
    -25%
    "After all, they swore an oath to the president, elected by the people, and no one took the oath ..."
    Lies and nonsense. The oath of allegiance to the people of Ukraine, and not a stuffed hat. What, the Russian army swears personally to Putin or, there, Yeltsin?
    “Particularly indicative is the courageous act of Rear Admiral Denis Berezovsky, who swore allegiance to Crimea the next day, after he was appointed commander of the Ukrainian Navy by the order of the Minister of Defense. "
    Your untruth, Berezovsky (that's the last name) is a traitor, about whom everyone wipes his feet. Cheating on the oath is always and everywhere a CRIME. Then Vlasov is a courageous person. (not by night will be remembered). And the military commissariats are full of people and volunteers, and they do not take all, but only scarce specialists. At least in Vinnitsa.

    As for the new appointments, that is, such a saying - the authorities and the homeland - do not choose. Generals and admirals come and go, but the Homeland and the oath remain.
    So the Ukrainian army will not give up. If they don’t surrender her, of course ... repeat
    1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
      Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 4 March 2014 20: 59
      +4
      Yes they will surrender you, they will surrender. Well, shoot one another for a change. Neither the Americans nor the geyropa will fight for you. Where will you run from cold and hungry cities, again into the forests? So the mentality is not the same. In the forests you will all die out without our help.
    2. Field
      Field 4 March 2014 21: 06
      +2
      Of course not give up, give up.
      There amers already surrendered.
      What did brotherly blood want?
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 21: 29
        +5
        Quote: rocketman
        An oath of allegiance to the people of Ukraine, and not a stuffed hat. What, the Russian army swears personally to Putin or, there, Yeltsin?


        You are right.

        Quote: rocketman
        Berezovsky (that's the last name) is a traitor about whom everyone wipes his feet. Cheating on the oath is always and everywhere a CRIME.


        It's not an easy question, because "who are the judges?" ... Get worn out, of course, wipe your feet on him, you won't get it. BUT: I understand him. And I would not serve the maydourods.

        Quote: rocketman
        they take not all, but only scarce specialists. At least in Vinnitsa.


        More docile meat? laughing

        Quote: rocketman
        As for the new appointments, that is, such a saying - the authorities and the homeland - do not choose. Generals and admirals come and go, but the Homeland and the oath remain.


        Good words. Good point. Only one aspect - why is the whole Crimea traitors ???

        Quote: rocketman
        So the Ukrainian army will not give up.


        Yes, no one is going to fight this bunch of crippled and wretched people. Take it easy.
        My dear, do you understand the language of numbers? Did you take part in TWO exercises of our districts in TWO times more than in your entire glorious army? And these were not all still troops.
    3. Maks-80
      Maks-80 4 March 2014 21: 36
      +3
      And you asked the Ukrainian army, they agree to fight for the rabbit Yatsenyuk, stupid Klitschko, the impostor Turchinov, for the stealing oligarchs? laughing
  38. mr.rafael-r
    mr.rafael-r 4 March 2014 20: 25
    +4
    Quote: Pancreas
    http://argumentua.com/stati/rossiya-kak-absolyutnoe-zlo-nedaleko-do-mirovoi


    Went to the dust. Just a complete pi *** c. To such an extent stupid ub * people that are just scary for the Russian Crimeans. Pour so much dirt on Russia, blame everything that can be done, and almost every article ends with a curse on the Russians and a prediction of the imminent death of the Russian Federation. I didn’t know that I live so badly. )))).
    1. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 21: 30
      +1
      Quote: mr.rafael-r
      I didn’t know that I live so badly. )))).


      Well ... enlightened ...
  39. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 4 March 2014 20: 26
    +5
    Yes, Russia will not fight with Ukraine (it doesn’t even have an army) Rather, there are military men and weapons only for the Bandera Galicians (who are now in the shadow power) and who against the government as such Berkut knelt down and disbanded the Army and frightened away the weapons they don’t want and will not fight against Russia .. Yarosh is torn into the gray cardinals to control the SBU (or rather, re-created in the new format) .. The worst option is the next Gulyai-Pole and Old Man-Yarosh .. Anarchy = mother of order .. Gathered in a gang attacked and fled.! again bloodthirsty (well, everyone knew the methods they read and studied Bandera .. in the Caucasus they showed themselves to fame ..) Now the main work is done by the FSB GRU of the RF Ministry of Foreign Affairs Center Bank of the RF .. Everything else is the scenery for us.! There, war is not for life but for death! If a clash of military units begins, this is a failure ... I think this will not happen.! But Bandera (until it’s too late) need to be expelled from Kiev! Here's something like that. Slavs processed our brains! Ukrainians are going to fight with the Russians .. nonsense!
    1. kghostya
      kghostya 4 March 2014 20: 35
      -37%
      Mostly false. Sometimes you watch not only Russian channels ... And no, Bender has not died out what their name is. You are being zombified by Putin and company
      1. builder
        builder 4 March 2014 20: 43
        +7
        Quote: kghostya
        Sometimes you watch not only the Russian channels ... And no, Bender faded away as their name. You are zombified by Putin and company

        SOON WILL NOT BE
        1. BYRY
          BYRY 4 March 2014 22: 53
          +1
          These Hari, in Sevastopol, should be known to all residents. It is verified - who they are visiting.
      2. Field
        Field 4 March 2014 21: 10
        +5
        And you zombie the United States?
        But the Bandera Nazis, cop killers-dreamed?
        Jews nickname (German citizen) with a canopy with a fascist fascist Yarosh and Tyagnibok too?
        And excuse me, what channels do you watch (list)?
        What are you reading?
        1. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 21: 33
          +3
          Quote: Field
          What are you reading?


          Are you reading ??? In you give !!!
          Internet smokes. And biographies of famous patriots - Bandera, Mazepa, Shushkevich. But he doesn’t read everything. There’s a shitty ending in biographies.
          1. Field
            Field 4 March 2014 22: 07
            +2
            I nevertheless wanted to neigh cleanly)))
            It prints, so I thought we can read what)))
            This is a tandem Bandera, agitation here scatters.
            In real life they would have made them eat without mayonnaise)))
        2. builder
          builder 4 March 2014 21: 43
          +2
          Quote: Field
          What are you reading?

          They read comics.
      3. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 21: 31
        +4
        And you are zombied by Yarosh and Bily.
        At our place, Putin looks decent and doesn’t stink.
      4. Maks-80
        Maks-80 4 March 2014 21: 38
        +2
        Vali is already on the Maidan
      5. sinukvl
        sinukvl 4 March 2014 23: 21
        +1
        And it seems you already do not need to zombie, you are already zombied to the very top!
      6. builder
        builder 5 March 2014 01: 48
        +3
        That's who zombies you from kindergarten
  40. desiscia
    desiscia 4 March 2014 20: 29
    -46%
    P ... n comes to the fortuneteller and asks:
    - what awaits us in the future?
    The fortuneteller answers:
    - Russia will invade Ukraine,
    - Well, I know that, and then what?
    - a hot dog in Moscow will be 15 hryvnia.
    1. Merlins
      Merlins 4 March 2014 20: 44
      +10
      With an approach like yours, soon in Kiev there will be 5 $ hot dogs
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 21: 36
        +3
        Quote: desiscia
        hot dog in Moscow will be on 15 hryvnia.


        Scolded himself.
        "Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

        Dream first, that you would be thrown into poverty dollars or pounds, so that you had something to eat tomorrow and what to pay for our gas.
        There are no more discounts, you are ours. laughing
    2. Field
      Field 4 March 2014 21: 23
      +3
      Quote: desiscia
      P ... n comes to the fortuneteller and asks: “what awaits us in the future?” The fortuneteller answers: “Russia will invade Ukraine, - well, I know that, and then what?” - a hot dog in Moscow will be 15 hryvnia.


      Comfort yourself, comfort, naive silly.
    3. revnagan
      revnagan 4 March 2014 21: 25
      +2
      Quote: desiscia
      - a hot dog in Moscow will be 15 hryvnia.

      Hey, Bula in a dog’s hut ... And here's another, d.u.r.e. wassat In general, buy a lip-cutting machine, it will do.
    4. sak1969
      sak1969 4 March 2014 22: 07
      +1
      Quote: desiscia
      P ... n comes to the fortuneteller and asks:
      - what awaits us in the future?
      The fortuneteller answers:
      - Russia will invade Ukraine,
      - Well, I know that, and then what?
      - a hot dog in Moscow will be 15 hryvnia.

      Have a laugh I'll check it out! )))
      Forget about them very soon it will become waste paper! crying
    5. Shkodnick
      Shkodnick 4 March 2014 22: 15
      +1
      Foolish dreams of an idiot ...
    6. alex-s
      alex-s 4 March 2014 22: 25
      +2
      Today I already read this joke five times! And countries write all different - writers! negative
    7. sarmat-4791
      sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 02: 50
      +2
      -Mykola, what about "associate membership"?
      -Well, godmother, Ukraine will participate in the EU.
      -So will enter the EU?
      - No, it won’t enter, but it will participate.
      -Yak so?
      - Well, roughly, like eggs in sexual intercourse: participate, but do not enter. And so, hanging out next!
  41. kelevra
    kelevra 4 March 2014 20: 31
    +2
    Silly and weak-minded people, since it was so easy to fool and kick them in the ass to create such chaos in the country!
  42. vlum
    vlum 4 March 2014 20: 32
    +1
    Maybe I'm dumb, but still a legitimate question arises:

    Are servicemen in the army and navy already familiar with the text of this article?
  43. andrei332809
    andrei332809 4 March 2014 20: 38
    +2
    That also happens. went around the world with outstretched hand
    Ukraine is awaiting a response from the Russian Federation whether Russia will provide a loan to pay off gas debt, Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said.

    "There is a debt of the government of former President Viktor Yanukovych in the amount of $ 2 billion, and there were obligations of the Russian Federation to provide a loan for a similar amount. And we are awaiting a decision and a response from Russia: will Russia fulfill its obligations in order for Ukraine to pay off this short-term debt and fulfill its obligations under the gas contract ", - said A. Yatsenyuk, answering the question of the Interfax-Ukraine agency about what will be the actions of Ukraine in connection with the fact that Russia does not intend to give Ukraine a discount on gas.
    1. kghostya
      kghostya 4 March 2014 20: 43
      -28%
      And you call yourself a brotherly people? Brothers do not occupy someone else's land.
      1. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
        Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 4 March 2014 21: 06
        +12
        The earth is just not alien, here are individual individuals on it really alien!
      2. Field
        Field 4 March 2014 21: 25
        +7
        So I don’t occupy the same thing. Therefore, get into Galicia (or in the United States and Europe) and sit there.
        Not a brother, you are me ***** fascist.
      3. Shkodnick
        Shkodnick 4 March 2014 22: 19
        +4
        Apparently, logic doesn’t work beyond computer games ... eat bigmak and pray for America ... And the Russian population in Ukraine will determine for itself how to be without your fascist scum !!!
      4. sak1969
        sak1969 4 March 2014 22: 23
        +1
        Quote: kghostya
        And you call yourself a brotherly people? Brothers do not occupy someone else's land.

        Because you bro, started a bad thing!
        In the course of at least kidalovo outlined.
        And this land is not alien.
        We will live in a place!
        Only Che you are not happy, even though we are one people !!!
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      1. revnagan
        revnagan 4 March 2014 21: 38
        +4
        Quote: kghostya
        Brothers do not occupy someone else's land.

        First, besides Crimea, there are no Russian troops anywhere in Ukraine.
        Secondly, in the Crimea, Russia has the right to 25 thousand of its troops, and this number is not exceeded.
        Thirdly, the troops are in Crimea at the request of the still LEGITIMENT President of Ukraine, no impeachment was announced to him, there was no trial, but the fact that lop-eared Sarai Obama said that Yanyk is not legitimate ... Well, tomorrow Hussein will fly away from the United States somewhere on a visit, and what? Vladimir Vladimirovich will declare Obama illegitimate on this basis? Who stood up, sold that place? Yanyk, of course, ........., ......., but voted for him in order to so that the brown Galician plague does not invade Ukraine. And if the Galician "Ukrainians" accepted amer's help with cookies, cash, instructors and snipers, then why should the east of Ukraine not accept help against Galician domination from Russian brothers? I would gladly receive a "humanitarian" AK and zinc cartridges.
        1. ty60
          ty60 4 March 2014 23: 58
          0
          And I’m an old Acacia, and on it I served in the Zhytomyr region. 965 SAP
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      2. Serg 122
        Serg 122 4 March 2014 22: 11
        +3
        Brothers do not occupy someone else's land.
        Rave. Can a brother and brother have a strange land? Alien to strangers. Surround
        1. desiscia
          desiscia 4 March 2014 23: 29
          -5
          tomorrow brother, I’ll come to you with Kalash, I’ll be glad
          1. Rebus
            Rebus 4 March 2014 23: 55
            +2
            Quote: desiscia
            tomorrow brother, I’ll come to you with Kalash, I’ll be glad

            Another offended pathos victim of the Ukrainian media ...
            They came to you personally with Kalash and took the land?
    3. Roman Skomorokhov
      Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 21: 37
      0
      Medvedev said "God will give!"
  44. Andrey Peter
    Andrey Peter 4 March 2014 20: 43
    +4
    Quote: kghostya
    And who attacks the Russians? I live in the northeast and also believe that Russia is occupying us. This is your army and Putin is provoking our soldiers.

    I never separated Russians and Ukrainians. Maybe because he’s a quarter. It was rather on the principle where you live fellow And who do you relate to? So personally, it doesn’t matter to me who the Bandera Ukrainians, Russians or Jews will kill, in any case it is necessary to defend the PEOPLE, and I don’t rank them as fascists and bandits, and even bought by the US special services. am
  45. individual
    individual 4 March 2014 20: 46
    +7
    The task is to separate Bandera from the people of Ukraine.
    This is where the ideological confrontation unfolds for the minds of Ukrainians.
    Here will be brother to brother.
    The brains of some are "washed" thoroughly.
    1. kghostya
      kghostya 4 March 2014 20: 58
      -20%
      What do you say to this:
      Moscow University Professors Fired for Article Against the War in Crimea Andrei Zubov, Professor of the Department of Philosophy at MGIMO (University of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia), was fired because of an article criticizing the intervention of Russian troops in Ukraine. It is reported by Slon.ru. In an article in the Vedomosti newspaper, Zubov compared the actions of the Russian leadership in Ukraine with Hitler's policy of annexing Austria to Germany in 1938. "We need to come to our senses and stop. Our politicians are dragging our people into a terrible, terrifying adventure. Historical experience says that nothing will turn out like this. We should not be led, as the Germans were led in due time to the promises of Goebbels and Hitler. For the sake of peace in our country, for the sake of its real revival, for the sake of peace and true friendliness in the territories of historical Russia, now divided into many states, let's say no to this insane and, most importantly, completely unnecessary aggression, "the teacher wrote. Zubov also said that Russia never allowed itself what it allowed in Ukraine, never did not care about the opinion of the world community. He considers the recent events to be a dangerous symptom for both foreign and domestic policy of Russia. We will remind that earlier the Russian intervention was also condemned by the writer Mikhail Veller, the actor Sergei Bezrukov, the writer Viktor Shenderovich, musicians Yuri Shevchuk, Andrei Makarevich, Boris Grebenshchikov.
      Dzherelo: fakty.ictv.ua
      1. kghostya
        kghostya 4 March 2014 21: 01
        -21%
        The entry of troops into the Crimea is not the salvation of the people of Ukraine, but a real occupation. Wake up the people of Russia. Can't you see it?
        1. Field
          Field 4 March 2014 21: 28
          +4
          You see, you’ve already woken up, that you’ll fall asleep with an eternal sleep.
        2. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 21: 45
          +5
          Quote: kghostya
          Wake up the people of Russia.


          Woke up. We don’t sleep with 22.02.

          Quote: kghostya
          The entry of troops into the Crimea is not the salvation of the people of Ukraine, but a real occupation. Can't you see it?


          Nope. Do not see. But they saw burning people, smashed monuments, fascists and murderers, pacing the cities. This is seen. And you?
          1. gfs84
            gfs84 4 March 2014 22: 14
            +3
            No, not on February 22, we woke up, but at least in 1604 (Russian territories then also tried to integrate into Europe), or even under Alexander Nevsky, then the Swedes also insisted on joining the EU)))
      2. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
        Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 4 March 2014 21: 21
        +9
        kghostya]
        Professor of the Department of Philosophy of MGIMO (University of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia) Andrey Zubov was fired because of an article criticizing the intervention of Russian troops in Ukraine. It is reported by Slon.ru. In an article in the Vedomosti newspaper, Zubov compared the actions of the Russian leadership in Ukraine with Hitler's policy of annexing Austria to Germany in 1938.
        Yes, a similar one should not be fired. All this swamp and near-bog dirt should be thrown out into the geyropu they love for a long time. Notice, I'm not bloodthirsty, I only suggest sending it, as the enemies of Russia are manifest.
      3. Field
        Field 4 March 2014 21: 30
        +2
        Can I have a reference of Russian origin?
        What are you smoke look, read, discard the links - also the neighing hunt
      4. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 4 March 2014 21: 43
        +1
        Quote: kghostya
        Mikhail Weller, actor Sergey Bezrukov, writer Viktor Shenderovich, musicians Yuri Shevchuk, Andrey Makarevich, Boris Grebenshchikov.


        Has he collected all the Euro-money? Rejoice, yeah, rejoice and have fun, for your reward is great in heaven: so did the prophets who were before you persecuted (Gospel of Matthew 5, 3-12). So they will chase you. Kicks. Stuffing in fluff and feathers.

        Quote: kghostya
        It is reported by Slon.ru.


        As well as rain, freedom, tape. Ua, bibisi, the echo of Moscow and a bunch of other shit.
        1. sarmat-4791
          sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 03: 09
          0
          Here TK Rain was again marked by idiocy: "Through Wikipedia one could find the text of Adolf Hitler's book Mein Kampf (now the link has been removed because it violated copyright)"
      5. Alex 241
        Alex 241 4 March 2014 23: 05
        +2
        Quote: kghostya
        Recall that the writer Mikhail Weller, actor Sergey Bezrukov, writer Viktor Shenderovich, musicians Yuri Shevchuk, Andrei Makarevich, Boris Grebenshchikov also condemned Russian intervention.

        In the list of authorities do not appear!
      6. Alex 241
        Alex 241 4 March 2014 23: 10
        +3
        Quote: kghostya
        Dzherelo: fakty.ictv.ua
        Klitschko discussed Kerry early presidential elections 20:48 Journalists are not allowed to leave the military unit in Yevpatoria 20:45 The United States can help to know the assets of the Corrupt Way from Ukraine 20:30 The court acknowledged the valid appointment of Aksenov as Crimean Prime Minister 20:25 Social networks report the assault on the military unit in Evpatoria 20:14 The crew of the Ukrainian ship "Slavutich" rebuffed the armed attackers 20:14 Obama made it clear that Putin will not fool anyone 20:00 Russia is already ready to respond to possible US sanctions 19:45 The US Secretary of State, while in Ukraine, understood: Russia invaded our territory 19:45 Kerry: We can completely isolate Russia on the world stage 19:39 Sevastopol officers accused Putin of outright lies - statement 19:27 The United States is ready to give Ukraine a loan of $ 1 billion 19:09 The Council of Europe calls for a thorough investigation deaths on the Maidan 19:00 Yanukovych had no right to ask to send troops to Ukraine - Ministry of Foreign Affairs 18:52 The flag of the Ukrainian Navy flies near the Ministry of Foreign Affairs: We are proud of you! 18:48 The occupants of Crimea admitted to journalists that they are from Russia (video) 18:47 Vakarchuk in front of Donetsk students: While we are together, we are strength (video) 18:43 Ukrainian border guards will significantly increase their salaries
        Dzherelo: fakty.ictv.ua. Cool in your department !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 4 March 2014 23: 18
          +2
          Here's another from the same resource. But it's purely neighing! Ukraine has found a complete replacement GazpromES is ready to give Ukraine 6 billion euros
          Dzherelo: fakty.ictv.ua The Pope called on the whole world to pray for Ukraine
          Dzherelo: fakty.ictv.ua Ruslana entered the list of the bravest women on the planet
          Dzherelo: fakty.ictv.ua
      7. tank64rus
        tank64rus 5 March 2014 08: 24
        0
        Yes, this is the salt of the nation, as you have Beni Mord
      8. demel2
        demel2 5 March 2014 10: 35
        0
        Quote: kghostya
        l Mikhail Weller, actor Sergey Bezrukov, writer Viktor Shenderovich, musicians Yuri Shevchuk, Andrei Makarevich, Boris Grebenshchikov.

        Are these authorities for you? Then it becomes clear why you have such a bardvk in Ukraine.
  46. dengy12
    dengy12 4 March 2014 21: 01
    +3
    Quote: Russ69
    Quote: PN
    In truth, this video is very similar. That's just a cry - America with us, it sounds stupid.

    The video is certainly provocative and planned, but proves that the air base is under our full control.

    and how many journalism are there? most likely they themselves shouted for America. not so much of these creatures were there. and this zhurnalyugi wanted to provoke bloodshed. something like that .imho ..
  47. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 4 March 2014 21: 07
    +2
    Quote: individ
    The brains of some are "washed" thoroughly.

    Yes, not for some, but much more. Last year I rode on the Moscow-Kiev-Khmelnitsky train, where a good-natured man of 50 years old spoke with conviction that Bandera was not so bad, and that he fought for his land and people - a great patriot, in short. What can we say about youth. It is known from independent sources that even in Odessa in some schools teachers were taught to greet with slogans "Glory to Ukraine! ..." and further in the text. Especially after the arrival of the "sent Cossack - Yushchenko," such phenomena became more and more frequent. Well, in Zakazpattia there has always been a "hotbed". Only for some reason the authorities did not see all this or did not attach importance. So we got it ...
    And the "foreign" well-wishers only wanted this!
  48. saag
    saag 4 March 2014 21: 10
    +4
    Quote: kghostya
    The entry of troops into the Crimea is not the salvation of the people of Ukraine, but a real occupation

    Nobody will occupy you militarily, you will find out the occupation when your enterprises go to foreign companies and they bankrupt them as unnecessary, companies will be such Chevron, Ruhr and their subsidiaries
    1. kghostya
      kghostya 4 March 2014 21: 14
      -18%
      And you decided to "help" us. Thanks. Also thanks to the Cossack Yanukovych, Putin's spy. He also helped us a lot ...
      1. Black
        Black 4 March 2014 21: 29
        +6
        Quote: kghostya
        And you decided to "help" us. Thanks. Also thanks to the Cossack Yanukovych, Putin's spy. He also helped us a lot ...


        You are welcome. We are very kind.
        Yanukovych is your president, we did not force him to force you.
        And for whom do you thank Yushchenko? For Julia with a scythe, for Benya ???
      2. Field
        Field 4 March 2014 21: 42
        +4
        Shozh, you did not say thank you to Julia with the beekeeper, the egg with the nickname? Cossacks are also not yours along the way
      3. sinukvl
        sinukvl 4 March 2014 23: 23
        +1
        God help.
      4. KOMA
        KOMA 4 March 2014 23: 25
        +2
        Why just what trouble, just Putin to blame? Why not Merkel, not Hugo Chavez? Well, or at worst, not Fidel Castro? Who taught you such delirium?
      5. sarmat-4791
        sarmat-4791 5 March 2014 03: 20
        +1
        Well, kghostya, "fucked up the polymers"? Ditch the country? Either you have Klitschko talking to the dead, or Yarosh to fraternize with Umarov. It’s more familiar to you now, have you noticed?
      6. MBA78
        MBA78 5 March 2014 16: 58
        0
        = kghostya =
        you are a "spy" by chance not a blonde ... if so, then you are in full "chocolate"
  49. Docklishin
    Docklishin 4 March 2014 21: 13
    +2
    I could not understand for a long time how to interpret our statements about the entry of the RF Armed Forces into the territory of Ukraine ... Personally, I have a dual opinion. Why they introduced - 1) ACTIVATE pro-Russian forces in the southeast of the country; 2) to ensure the safety of the Russian-speaking population and the holding of future presidential elections in Ukraine; If the southeast votes in a consolidated manner, then there will be a pro-Russian leader. QUESTION - what we will do with the Western part - I do not know. But it seems - the United States and the EU will help them. Then a split in the country is inevitable. This is one of the options.
  50. Strashila
    Strashila 4 March 2014 21: 14
    +4
    A video "Confrontation at Belbek: shots and a red flag" appeared on the BBC website, a provocation of the so-called Ukrainian army. A shitty production, the director and sponsor is clearly from a geyrope ... it can be seen that the men pinched their scrotum that they are ready for anything.