The Air Force will receive upgraded MiG-31 and aircraft of the new model

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On the last day of February it became known about the plans of the military concerning the further development of the air force. In the future, the Air Force should receive a new interceptor aircraft designed to protect the country's airspace. The decision to create a new project has already been made, but the timing of the appearance of the aircraft is still unknown.

The Air Force will receive upgraded MiG-31 and aircraft of the new model
Concept art MiG-41C "Firefly"


MP A. Tarnaev, a member of the State Duma defense committee, told about the existence of plans to create a new interceptor. According to him, the General Staff has already made a decision, and its head has signed a document, in accordance with which research work on a new project should begin. From the words of Tarnaev it follows that the new interceptor now bears the symbol of the MiG-41 - by analogy with the existing MiG-31. In this case, the common features of the two aircraft will not be limited to a similar name. According to the deputy, the new interceptor MiG-41 will be developed on the basis of the MiG-31. Details of the project have not yet been announced.

A member of the Duma Defense Committee also spoke about the future of the MiG-31 interceptors in the troops. In the near future, several hundred aircraft of this type may return to the air force. Aircraft will be returned to service, undergoing repairs. Thanks to this, the air force can receive several hundred reconstructed interceptors.

The story of A. Tarnaev about the repair of MiG-31 aircraft is of particular interest. In the middle of 2011, the Ministry of Defense and the Sokol Plant (Nizhny Novgorod) signed a contract for upgrading MiG-31 interceptors to the state of MiG-31БМ. The first repaired and updated aircraft were handed over to the customer in 2012 year. At the time of signing the contract, the military expected to get 60 upgraded aircraft. As follows from the words of the State Duma deputy, it is possible to sign a new contract, the purpose of which will be the repair and renewal of a larger number of aircraft.



Much more interesting are other words of A. Tarnaev. He spoke about the order of the Chief of the General Staff, which implies the start of research work on a new project. This means that in the foreseeable future, the development of a new interceptor aircraft will begin, which in the future will replace the deserved MiG-31. For obvious reasons, it is still too early to talk about the look of the new aircraft, but some interesting details could be voiced now.

Tarnayev mentioned that the new MiG-41 interceptor will be developed on the basis of an existing project. Thus, the MiG-41 can be a deep modernization of the existing machine. The logic of development of domestic aviation technology suggests that with this approach to development, the MiG-41 aircraft can retain some of the common features of its predecessor, in particular the glider and other structural elements. At the same time, the aircraft planned for development should receive a number of new electronic equipment, new engines and new weapons.

The MiG-31 interceptor had unique characteristics for its time - maximum speed up to 3000 km / h (M = 2,8) and target range up to 160 km (P-33 rocket). The creation of new aircraft of the same class implies the development and use of new electronic systems and new weapons. The priority task in this case is the creation of longer-range missiles and with more efficient homing systems. It should not be forgotten about the characteristics of the aircraft itself.

RIA News cite the words of the Hero of Russia, test pilot A. Kvochur. He believes that the maximum speed of a prospective interceptor should significantly exceed that of the existing MiG-31. Kvochur believes that the MiG-41 should be able to fly at a speed of three to four times the speed of sound. In addition, the test pilot noted that such an upgrade of the interceptor plane should have appeared 20 years ago, but that did not happen then. Since then, the requirements for such a technique have changed, which is why the new aircraft must have higher characteristics than the existing MiG-31.

Improving the flight performance of an interceptor in order to improve its combat capabilities in general meets the requirements of the time. However, in this case, the MiG-31 aircraft will not be able to become the basis for a new car. In order to have the characteristics sounded by A. Kvochur, a promising interceptor must be developed taking into account the specific features of the flight at speeds greater than M = 3. Features of the aerodynamics of flight at such speeds and thermal loads will not allow the use of a MiG-31 glider as the basis. Thus, the MiG-41, having such high characteristics, cannot be created on the basis of the existing aircraft.

All this means that to achieve these characteristics you will need to create a completely new project. It is too early for now to say exactly what developments under the MiG-31 project will be used in the new aircraft. It is possible that the final requirements of the military will be so high that the project will have to be created with minimal use of existing developments and with extensive use of completely new technologies.

Over the past years, various versions of what a new domestic interceptor should look like regularly appear. A variety of assumptions are made about its appearance, characteristics, equipment and combat potential. However, for obvious reasons, all these assumptions can be considered only as a point of view of specialists or lovers of military equipment, who have little in common with reality. At present, it is impossible to assess the veracity of this or that version, since the development of the MiG-41 has not yet begun. The first information, which will allow to draw any conclusions, in the best case will appear only in a few months.

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  1. +16
    4 March 2014 09: 09
    The concept image looks interesting, it’s a pity that this is just a picture
    1. +6
      4 March 2014 09: 14
      dear, I almost didn’t set you a minus, read it looks pathetic, that’s what it means
      1. +12
        4 March 2014 09: 36
        in another one to the heap
        1. 0
          4 March 2014 16: 31
          A terrible concept, I hope it will not be))

          A member of the Duma Defense Committee also spoke about the future of the MiG-31 interceptors in the troops. In the near future, several hundred aircraft of this type may return to the air force. Aircraft will be returned to service, undergoing repairs. Thanks to this, the air force can receive several hundred reconstructed interceptors.


          So tens or hundreds?
          1. dmitrij.blyuz
            +2
            4 March 2014 23: 15
            And that guy minus? I agree! Something ugly. A nasal air intake, wings like sparrows after a puddle. As promised, Mach 4,5, with such aerodynamics? It doesn’t look like a concept. Fantasy of an artist far from Aviation. My opinion. In agreement Su-24. I catch the minus! soldier
        2. 0
          4 March 2014 21: 48
          Quote: me by
          in another one to the heap

          The concept was drawn by a good artist, but clearly far from modern aviation.
          One of the most important signs of stele technology is parallel edges, this is not visible here.
    2. +5
      4 March 2014 09: 46
      Of course, this is good news, I do not think that they will be in large numbers, the times will be different, but complementing the East Kazakhstan region will be excellent. I really want to believe that the number of combat aircraft received in the troops is classified information, we are told 15, and 30, su 35, for example, have been received. laughing
      1. +3
        4 March 2014 12: 26
        Let’s hope that nobody will interfere with the development and adoption of the new MIG-41 project, I mean Mr. Poghosyan who at one time lobbied su projects to the detriment of MIG, as a result of the state order, su planes received, and MIG were on the verge of bankruptcy and the ratio 2-3 to 1 became light aircraft, but it should be vice versa. I believe that only in healthy competition unique projects are born.
        1. 0
          5 March 2014 17: 44
          Quote: elmi
          Poghosyan who once lobbied ...

          just the head of one of the competing firms should not become the leader of the industry - the distortions will not keep you waiting ...
    3. +5
      4 March 2014 13: 44
      Quote: Edge_KMV
      The concept image looks interesting, it’s a pity that this is just a picture


      In general, not very. Glumpaya she, with a focus on Boeing with Lokhidovskimi trends in aircraft manufacturing, and everyone knows that produces Lockheed. My opinion is purely - whether the plane flying at a speed of 4M is stealthy or not, it simply has nothing to get, there is no such weapon, they haven’t come up with it yet.
      1. +2
        4 March 2014 16: 25
        Heh, on the opposite course you can get it elementary. Yes, and catch up with missile defense will get
        1. 0
          4 March 2014 18: 15
          Quote: Geisenberg
          My opinion is purely that an airplane flying at a speed of 4M was stealthy or not, deep down to the candle, there simply is nothing to get it, there are no such weapons, we haven’t invented it yet.


          I’m more interested in the pilot’s well-being at such speeds, well, seriously, on 4M it’s not khukh-mukhry
      2. +1
        4 March 2014 21: 50
        Quote: Geisenberg
        my opinion is that a plane flying at a speed of 4M deep to the candle was stealthy or not, there’s simply nothing to get it, there’s no such weapon, they haven’t invented it yet.

        4m, he can’t always fly.
  2. +4
    4 March 2014 09: 10
    Yeah, it wouldn’t be sickly if such a beautiful device were lifted to the wing!
  3. 0
    4 March 2014 09: 10
    beauties ...
  4. +6
    4 March 2014 09: 23
    An interesting solution, in the form of a nasal air intake, ala "moment - 21" in the XXI century.
    The concept is beautiful.
    1. +2
      4 March 2014 11: 49
      ala "moment - 21" in the XXI century.
      The continuity of generations... laughing
  5. +6
    4 March 2014 09: 24
    I understand this ugliness that, as a concept, is it represented, the fruit of the gloomy genius of which thread of the Amer designer of computer games?
    Sorry for the feed of IT, it looks atrafirovannaya and lagged behind in development from the main body.
  6. +10
    4 March 2014 09: 29
    single engine interceptor? in the picture the concept looks more like a trainer in size and layout, but not like a "ship".
  7. Eugeniy_369k
    +3
    4 March 2014 09: 36
    With all due respect to the aircraft and its creators (Mig-31), but .... expensive to operate and excellent appetite. Yes, it can be "shamanized", but only as a temporary measure. The T-50 needs to be worked out and put into production, the A-50 needs to be modernized (can we finally add a toilet?) The KS-172 needs to be brought to mind.
    1. FID
      +13
      4 March 2014 13: 16
      Quote: Eugeniy_369k
      T-50 needs to be developed and put into production,

      The T-50 is not an interceptor, but the Mig-31 is an interceptor, i.e. must take off and intercept ANY target, whether it be an airplane or a cruise missile!
    2. typhoon7
      +4
      4 March 2014 16: 23
      When it comes to the country's defense, you should not be a miser. Americans are already climbing out of all the cracks, they are sending an aircraft carrier to the Black Sea, and you think all the pennies. It is no more expensive than the Su-35, but as the best interceptor, its current modernization of the MiG-31BM does not reach the last modernization during the Soviet Union, this aircraft could accompany 30 targets and fire 6. At the moment, only the MiG-31 is able to close the sky of Russia, hundreds of them, put in order and for work. At the top, they already saw it.
      1. +1
        4 March 2014 16: 29
        Is it that one pretzel called RSN on the air yesterday and said "And Putin asked the people if anyone needs help in Ukraine? Now, due to the dollar's growth against the ruble, I will lose 15% of my money!" Well, it was such a panic yesterday - many hysterical.
  8. +5
    4 March 2014 09: 46
    at a speed above 3M, the very concept of "fighter" is somehow lost, it will fly along straight trajectories, unfold smoothly, in my opinion a drone is already needed here, a person will already interfere
    1. typhoon7
      +2
      4 March 2014 16: 33
      What are you talking about? American subsonic drones bomb more weddings than militants. Imagine a drone with four swings. Are you sure that instead of violators, passenger or military aircraft will not spill onto the ground?
    2. typhoon7
      0
      4 March 2014 19: 03
      Put a minus, nothing to beat? To an unmanned hyper-interceptor as to the sky on foot. Firstly, even the USA cannot afford it by technology. Secondly, there are things that people don’t trust in the car, a matter of life and death, these are events in the air that you can’t fix and hide, unlike the events on earth where you can have a break. The air traffic on earth is terribly intense. Here the issue of technology meets the question of ethics, neither the first nor the second people are ready for this yet. Imagine a hypersonic beast out of control, this can provoke nuclear powers to exchange blows. Therefore, it is not. Emotions must be kept with you, the topic is technical, I laid out the arguments and they are not beaten. I will not minus.
      1. typhoon7
        0
        4 March 2014 19: 23
        To this it is worth adding that the price of modern shock drones, in comparison with a hypersonic drone, an interceptor will turn out to be ridiculous to tears. It’s cheaper to use human-controlled interceptors, but where many of the operations are automated, which, in principle, is the MiG-31.
        1. 0
          4 March 2014 22: 37
          Quote: saag
          in my opinion, a drone is already needed here, a person here will already interfere

          I would like to bring a couple of reasons in favor of an unmanned interceptor. For example, now most of the restrictions on maneuverability are related to the human factor, i.e. a man can still perform a missile defense maneuver with a single missile attack, but when there are several. it can’t work out either, because the blood either presses very hard on the brain, causes terrible pains and the person goes blind, or it almost does not remain there and the person loses consciousness. But an anti-ballistic maneuver is not such a unique operation, a missile attack is detected automatically by sensors, and a computer can much better calculate all the parameters of such a maneuver and save equipment.
          Almost the entire interceptor guidance process is carried out from the ground. Only at the final section of the route does the pilot need to capture the target and press the start button. What, in principle, can be done remotely, in particular in a group of MiG-31B aircraft, if the pilot seized the target and he ran out of missiles, that is, it is possible to use missiles of another aircraft in the group.
          You are talking about responsibility. I can confidently say when there is an air battle involving a group of 10 by 10 aircraft or more, you can really understand the air situation only on the CP Monopoly or on the A-50 AWACS aircraft. There is such a mess in the air that only ACS can handle it. So whoever the navigator and the automated control system of that pilot will bring down.
          The next concern is that the plane may get out of control and war will begin. The precedent was in 1989, when the MiG-23 took off in Poland, the pilot ejected, and the plane flew autopilot 900 km and crashed in Belgium, blew up the farm with the owner. But seriously, as a rule, in case of loss of control, the UAV has a strict function of returning to the airfield, and if this is impossible for technical reasons, then you can apply the missile principle, climb and self-destruction.
          The next limiting factor in the development of unmanned aircraft is the vulnerability of the communication system to electronic suppression. The development of the principles of noise coding of ultra-wideband communication systems, modern radio-relay systems based on tracking headlamps, etc. significantly reduced the enemy’s ability to suppress communication channels.
          1. typhoon7
            +1
            4 March 2014 23: 52
            I do not agree with you. First, the hyper-speed interceptor does not need maneuverability; these are two mutually exclusive concepts. Secondly, as a mini AWACS itself, it is an autonomous barging interceptor. He can use data from the ground, and at large distances he can do everything himself, this is different from other machines. Many of our territories are not covered by air defense at all, and the MiG-31 was created for them (the north of the country). In a meat grinder, neither MiG-31 nor hypersonic should even participate, this is suicide. Their business is with 300, 400 km. pinpoint targets, jump to the maximum acceptable distance with the group and go hypersound and no 10 by 10, that's none of their business. If we assume that Russian and American hypers meet in the opposing courses, they will detect each other at a very great distance, from each other as far as possible, fire at each other and the survivors will disperse in courses. Close and even average air combat is not the lot of hyper. You personally can take responsibility and let Hyper drones be on duty at the western, southern or northern borders. Most likely you will lose sleep and will be at the air defense station around the clock. If an infuriated drone with normal flight data can be intercepted, then the hyper drone if it closes and turns on the afterburner and especially the EW, you will not have time to blink an eye as it disappears from your radar. Then sit and wait where this birdie will dump an airbus or itself will fall into some sort of NATO base, with all the ensuing consequences. And it is this rather than the complexity of the task that slows down work on these drones. I remember how over the Black Sea S-200 in the place of the target aircraft chose Tu-154 eternal memory.
            1. +1
              5 March 2014 01: 29
              Quote: typhoon7
              at large distances he can do everything himself, in this he differs from other machines.

              Even in peacetime, patrolling in zones is only possible if it is 100% known that only the enemy can appear in the area as an ideal target. Well, neither as a navigator will be able to independently conduct radar and dispatch control, superimpose pictures on top of each other and identify an intruder or an enemy. Only by the "picture from the ground" i.e. target designation. Without a control center from the ground, everything that he sees on the radar, and his own, if there is a system of state recognition and it will not be drowned out, as well as strangers, including false targets, everything for him will be an enemy and a target. Just in order to understand the complexity of the radar control system, and even more so to build tactics of application, you need to sit at the command post for a couple of years and at least in general terms know the algorithms of the ACS of the air defense and the APN.
              And about the downed Tu-154, I can say for sure that it was a mistake for the launch operator and the guidance operator, the first should calculate and detect to the meeting point, if there was no detonation, then press the self-destruct button, and the last should make sure that the target is not at a distance of 100 km and an altitude of 1 km, and at a distance of more than 300 km and an altitude of 8 km. In addition, the PRV-13 operator and the chief of intelligence sat at their fingertips, but apparently the altimeter, as usual, did not work, so they stupidly hung up and could not figure out the two radar marks. Note that this all happened on the ground in the presence of preliminary intelligence information and target designation. Do you want the navigator to figure it out on his own? As for the porridge in the air, you think in vain that this is only possible during close combat, I just meant distances of about 100 km, this is the optimal average distance for the MiG-31.
              And about hypersonic manned aircraft, in my opinion this is not at all realistic. Firstly, the temperature and safety of the pilot will be a serious problem, secondly, communication will be almost impossible, only long waves pass through the plasma in which the hyper moves, and even then not always. So, there remains a programmable version of the drone.
          2. +2
            5 March 2014 01: 32
            As far as I understand, the control of the drone goes through the satellite and who guarantees that the control of the satellite itself will remain intact or the satellite itself will not be destroyed. In fact, satellite constellations are quite vulnerable, their orbits are known, do not forget about the delay of the signal, which greatly complicates the control of the drone.
            1. +1
              5 March 2014 01: 41
              a satellite is needed only if you want to receive a video, i.e. A wide communication channel is required. To control the drone requires the transfer of only coordinate and technological information. Ground-based HF radio stations can cope with this task.
  9. +3
    4 March 2014 09: 48
    The country is now not up to "shy away" from one project to another and all kinds of exotic projects. R&D, of course, is underway, but by 2020, according to the rearmament plan, the modernization of the MiG-31 is envisaged, including both refurbishment. and increasing its flight performance and combat capabilities. I think this decision is correct and well-grounded.
  10. +4
    4 March 2014 10: 05
    Why did you all get that the fact that the first picture is the MiG-41? Sorry, of course, but this is nonsense. Only recently, deputies decided to create a new interceptor, while the Air Force is silent, Mikoyan-Gurevich is silent, and the appearance of the aircraft is already known. Rave. Full. Though beautiful winked
    1. +8
      4 March 2014 11: 43
      well, many already "know" how the new PAK YES will look like from the Tupolev Design Bureau laughing Although this is the T-4MS project, which was abandoned in the USSR in favor of the Tu-160. Drawings of the T-4MS, disguised as PAK DA, appeared on the network even before the Tupolevites finally decided on the configuration of the future "strategist".
      And the fact that RSK "MIG" will begin to create a new interceptor pleases fellow
    2. +2
      4 March 2014 18: 30
      Actually, it says "concept art" in Russian and white, and everyone except you understood that. They express an opinion on the concept itself.
  11. Vita_vko
    +9
    4 March 2014 10: 22
    Finally! Let's hope for the revival of the MiG concern.
    I just wish that they did not go about brands and stereotypes.
    The interceptor is primarily intended to destroy an aerospace enemy at distant approaches. It is very doubtful the use of Stealth technologies to intercept targets at distant approaches over its territory or adjacent neutral waters. Indeed, in any case, you will have to work with the radar on, and this is a heavy-duty unmasking source of radiation. Unless, of course, a radar capable of operating without its own radiation, using the energy of ground and space transmitters, will be developed by this time. In my opinion, the methods of correlation-base location using the energy of GPS / Glonass navigation satellites could be ideal http://www.freepatent.ru/patents/2240576.
    By the way, this invention was made as part of a military scientific work that received a gold medal as the best among Russian universities, and the dissertation was the highest rating of the dissertation council at the Military Academy of East Kazakhstan region.
    1. 0
      4 March 2014 18: 32
      A raptor for example can shine with a radar and at the same time do not scorch.
      1. +2
        4 March 2014 22: 06
        Quote: patsantre
        A raptor for example can shine with a radar and at the same time do not scorch.

        Is it like that?
        You can shine a flashlight, but not be scorched?
        The principle is the same.
        1. +2
          5 March 2014 15: 52
          > Can you shine a flashlight without getting fired?

          Well, if this is such a particularly invisible light, then why not?

          ;-)
      2. +1
        4 March 2014 22: 13
        Quote: patsantre
        shine with a radar and at the same time do not scorch.

        It's like being a little pregnant ...
    2. 0
      4 March 2014 23: 01
      Indeed, I heard among the air defense scientists in Tver that there were very good reviews about new methods of passive location that could completely replace active radars. It seems that Lockheed Martin and Thales did something similar, but only there the energy of stationary transmitters of cellular communications and digital TV was used. At the Rosstovsky Research Institute for marine purposes, this direction is also being worked out; a patent was filed last year.
      It is a pity that so far these studies are not conducted for aviation and air defense tasks.
  12. 0
    4 March 2014 10: 49
    I may not understand why this "picture" has air intakes
    to fly at max 4 they must be larger than the fuselage of this "sketch"
    1. +1
      4 March 2014 10: 59
      as Rogozin promised, everything will work on new physical principles ..
      1. Vita_vko
        +5
        4 March 2014 12: 52
        I can answer at the level of the initial course of aerodynamics. The bottom line is that the airflow at such speeds is so powerful that the large air intake creates additional problems. Remember the design of the MiG-21 or the principles of direct-flow turbojet engines. Therefore, at high supersonic speeds, the air intake is correctly covered by a cone damper. In my opinion this is the best aerodynamic option.
        1. typhoon7
          +3
          4 March 2014 16: 35
          I agree, you can also recall the American "Thrush".
  13. Gagarin
    +3
    4 March 2014 10: 55
    Naturally, this is just a designer picture, the new look of the airframe, if it exists somewhere, we will not see it soon.
    I think the most difficult thing is that those set requirements for the MiG-41 performance characteristics can be obtained only with REVOLUTIONARY TECHNOLOGIES that are completely different from the existing ones. Where is this base, materials, specialists ... the work is shorter than the end.
  14. +2
    4 March 2014 11: 15
    I think it will be enough for us to turn our cheeks for another slap in the face from our so-called "partners" and to develop promising types of weapons with repeated efforts. Now, more than ever, it is necessary to show the West that if anything we have such a club in store that "Mama do not cry."
  15. +12
    4 March 2014 11: 24
    The aerodynamics and "architecture" of the concept are too archaic. For such speeds, aerodynamics are important, and here the bulges and external suspension. At 4,3M it will slow down too much! In addition, this is not an ordinary fighter with 4M (even very powerful modern engines will not allow this), this is already a specialized (aerodynamics) aircraft for such a speed. Other motives suggest themselves.


    1. Vita_vko
      +5
      4 March 2014 13: 00
      That's right. Any bulge at these speeds will require serious cooling measures. The designers in the MiG-31 were forced to deepen the R-33 rocket into the hull to reduce the heat load on them. And the presence of suspended missiles, generally complete nonsense, 2M for such a suspension is the limit.
    2. 0
      6 March 2014 01: 38
      For such speeds, aerodynamics are important, and here the bulges and the external suspension.


      And besides this, I also had the following question: it’s clear that at such speeds the external suspension is unrealistic, but how can I push a rocket out of the internal suspension in 4 swoops?
      Or do you need 4 mach to cover a large territory: come up, slow down, aim (try on 4 mach to figure it out!), Start it, and accelerate to hypersound to avoid a possible answer and, if necessary, call from another direction?
  16. +1
    4 March 2014 12: 04
    "Ajax" type?
  17. +2
    4 March 2014 12: 17
    What wretchedness these concept art are art concepts!
    Would draw their stupid comp-wars ... smile
  18. Leshka
    0
    4 March 2014 12: 58
    if on the basis of the MIG-31 you should get a great plane
  19. +2
    4 March 2014 13: 01
    If we ignore the appearance, the entire article can be reduced to one phrase "they will create a new interceptor a la MiG31 and modernize the old ones." There is no justification for the need to develop this aircraft, nor, so to speak, "delimitation of spheres of influence" with the new 5th generation fighter. I would like to see an article specifically on the general structure of the RF Armed Forces in the foreseeable future.
    1. FID
      +5
      4 March 2014 13: 21
      Quote: tchoni
      with the new 5th generation fighter

      You see, you are confusing "fighter" and "interceptor", they basically have different spheres of influence. And to justify ... Who? And for what? If the leadership of the Air Force is one thing, but if the leadership itself made this decision, this is completely different ...
      1. 0
        5 March 2014 10: 06
        And I don’t confuse anything. Nenad attributed to me what I did not say. It’s just that the current situation (I’ll talk about the conditional 4th generation without any pluses): Su-27 and MiG-29 aircraft adapted for maneuverable air combat, which as a result are a compromise between speed and maneuverability, economy; the armament complex is also universal and as a result can’t work at full range at long and ultra-long distances (a powerful radar is heavy, the same long-range missiles) + they have a longer response time due to lower flight speeds. therefore, it became necessary to supplement this tandem with a third component - a fighter-interceptor. In fact, if we approach the issue in an exaggerated manner, the MiG-31 is a huge tank attached to a heavy-duty engine (two) flavored with the same powerful radar (+ operator for its maintenance) and tied to long-range missiles. (4 short-range missiles are unaccounted for because they are the last chance weapons) Advantages: the ability to superfastly move to the desired point, see far and shoot first, and just as quickly rinse off.
        We are now looking at the 5th generation. A priori, the declared characteristics are cruising upper sound, a powerful radar capable of providing all-round visibility, an intelligent board capable of replacing a co-pilot, a wide range of weapons, including one capable of operating in the far zone + the ability to conduct close air combat. (in general, the fifth generation fighter, by the definition of this generation itself, should replace a pair of Su-27 + MiG-31).
        If everything is as I said - a new MiG-31? If not, and the MiG-41 is needed - what is its need?
  20. +10
    4 March 2014 13: 22
    The picture in general, from the "firefly" - a light fighter project! From here and all the nonsense! This has nothing to do with the MiG-41. Journalists! am fool
    1. 0
      4 March 2014 13: 45
      I agree completely. minus clicked erroneously.
    2. dmitrij.blyuz
      0
      4 March 2014 23: 28
      Here, Yelkin-metelkin! Tamerlan! Hammer! Torn out of his pocket! laughing hi
    3. 0
      6 March 2014 00: 21
      And he reminds me of the Warthog, not an A-10 plane, but a real warthog.
  21. +7
    4 March 2014 14: 12
    hi Greetings to members of the forum !!! I’m a new person here, but I’ve been following articles on the site for a long time. What I would like to say is that the MIG-31 is a unique machine, I myself served in air defense, but next to our brigade was located (and is still located) an air regiment. So they were sent 4 MIG-31s, the most unforgettable was the take-off of these machines, especially at night !!! and in the exercises, as our calculations of the complexes did not try to catch them at sight, nothing really came of it!
  22. +2
    4 March 2014 14: 18
    I found one project here laughing quite curious (another fantasy - so to speak):
    FIGHTER-INTERCEPTOR "HARPOON"
    The aircraft "Harpoon" was created as a project of the supersonic long-range patrolling Interceptor "SDBP" to replace the MiG-31 fighter-interceptor and is intended to intercept strategic bombers B-1B and long-range cruise missiles.
    TECHNICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE AIRCRAFT "HARPOON"
    Geometric characteristics
    Span, m 18
    Length, m 28
    Height, m ​​6
    Wing area, m2 155

    Tactical performance
    The maximum speed, km / h 3000
    Supersonic cruising speed, km / h 2500
    Subsonic cruising speed, km / h 930
    Maximum flight range, km:
    at a subsonic cruising speed of 10000
    at a supersonic cruising speed of 7500
    Flight altitude
    at a subsonic cruising speed, m 11000
    at a supersonic cruising speed, m 18000
    Practical ceiling, m 20000

    Takeoff and landing characteristics
    Takeoff Length, m: 580
    Run length, m 680
    The required length of the airfield, m 900
    Takeoff Speed, km / h: 265

    Weight characteristics:
    Takeoff weight, kg
    maximum 65000
    normal 44500
    Combat load kg
    maximum 12000
    normal xnumx
    Weight of fuel on board, kg 30000

    Power point:
    Turbofan new generation, kgf 2 to 16500/20000

    Engine Specifications:
    Engine weight, kg 2500
    Engine length, mm 7000
    Inlet diameter, mm 1000
    Maximum diameter, mm 1220

    Performance characteristics:
    Afterburner thrust, kgf 20000
    Specific fuel consumption
    afterburner, kg / kgf * h 1,68
    at maximum, kg / kgf * h 0,98
    to the cruise. mode, kg / kgf * h 0,66
    Maximum traction, kgf 16500
    Craving for a cruise. mode, kgf 13500
    Bypass ratio 0,55
    Gas temperature
    in front of the turbine, K 1900
    on cruise mode, K 1456
    The ratio of engine thrust to weight, kgf / kg 8


    1. Blind
      0
      4 March 2014 16: 15
      I can imagine how much this flying mammoth will cost if it is created within the framework of the described parameters .. and how much it will cost to operate is generally scary to think about.
  23. 0
    4 March 2014 15: 40
    Who will do it? Two years ago I went to the OKB, they sat there and did not know what would happen to them. OKB Poghosyan wanted to close.
    1. typhoon7
      0
      4 March 2014 17: 15
      Will not close. Russia is balancing on the brink of an open conflict with the West, so the question of the light, medium fighter, relatively inexpensive fighter is more acute. Su-35 costs from 80 (the cheapest equipment) to 100 and above million dollars. MiG-35, the most expensive equipment of 45 million dollars. If you reduce the shock functions, you get an even cheaper front-line interceptor fighter. For all his bias, Poghos understands this.
  24. Blind
    -3
    4 March 2014 16: 22
    honestly, I don’t understand why we need to create a new interceptor. the time of such aircraft is long gone .. they were needed 30 years ago. now they just have nothing to do - it's a money transfer. This is a plane for World War III.
    The 31st blinks were made to intercept supersonic B1Bs ... now all Lancers have been upgraded from strategists to subsonic strike bombers by states.
    to upgrade and put into operation again the stored copies - no matter where else (although the question is, how much will it cost), but to invest money in the development and organization of production of a new aircraft of this class is nonsense.

    it would be better if the money and efforts were spent on fine-tuning the PAK FA, and even better - on the project of the light fifth-generation fighter (the same Firefly). Such an aircraft is much more needed now, and it has excellent potential for us and for export.
  25. +2
    4 March 2014 17: 06
    Do not confuse warm with soft! PAK FA and others have nothing to do with the interceptor, even purely structurally and technically. These are completely different planes for their tasks.
    Of the variety of domestic aircraft manufacturing, the MiG-31 I like the most.
    1. Blind
      0
      4 March 2014 18: 15
      Who where and what confuses? Yes, these are different planes. And PAK FA is needed, but MIG-31 is NOT.
      learn to read ...

      and if it doesn’t complicate, write down the main combat missions of this new interceptor .. what is it that it will have to do important things that PAK FA will not be able to?
      1. typhoon7
        +1
        4 March 2014 18: 30
        Judging by your koment, you should not even answer, except for rage and obstinacy, you no longer have anything. Judging by the fact that they are going to be returned en masse, they are just not just needed, they are needed. Preferences should not prevail over common sense.
        1. Blind
          0
          5 March 2014 12: 01
          Judging by your answer, there’s simply nothing to say to you. and this is generally beyond rationality "Judging by the fact that they are going to be returned en masse, they are not just needed, they are necessary." -ha need .. dough to cut on "modernization"
      2. 0
        4 March 2014 19: 42
        and if it doesn’t complicate, write down the main combat missions of this new interceptor .. what is it that it will have to do important things that PAK FA will not be able to?

        ......... stupidly ......... altitude record for an instant-31 .... more than 37 km .... Pak fa can?
        1. Blind
          -1
          5 March 2014 12: 00
          WHAT FOR?? whom will he intercept at such speeds and heights? against maneuvering warheads of modern ICBMs, it is ineffective. The USA already has no supersonic Lancers. Blackbirds have also been decommissioned. B2 Spirit? Yeah, right now .. for those who are in the tank, at the frequencies of both the current and the planned modernized MIG-31 radar (6 GHz), stealth aircraft are NOT visible at all !! Those. both the MIG-31 and the MIG-31BM will never see either B2, F-22 or F-35. Once again the question is, who will he intercept?
          Still want to neigh? The modernized radar Zaslon-AM planned for installation does not even reach the old, 35-year-old radar of the decommissioned F-14th. In reality (according to one of the designers of the system, by the way) there is no smell of any range of 400 km. In practice, for targets with RCS 10-12 m2 (most modern non-stealth fighters), the range turned out to be 80-90 km in the front and 25 km in the rear hemisphere. All. Curtain.))) Even standing on the Su-35 (never an "illite interceptor", but a conventional front-line fighter) Irbis for targets with RCS 3 m2 showed reliable detection at ranges of 150-300 km, and in some cases even at 400 km
          All of you here are throwing hats into the air with the whole forum "oh, how cool is what kind of plane and we are also modernizing uh horror!" Do you even know how much our "sawflies" have gathered to charge for modernization? 500 billion rubles. http://voennovosti.ru/2013/04/modernizaciya-mig-31-obojdetsya-v-polsotni-milliar
          dov-rublej /
          8 billion rubles. ONE plane .. 240 million dollars.
          for this money, you can build 350 pieces of Su-35 or 100-120 pieces of PAK FA
  26. 0
    4 March 2014 17: 20
    If this is true, then definitely glad Yes ! I would like to have a similar aircraft in the Air Force after 2020. I think the work is in full swing. I hope this fighter will have advanced 5th generation avionics and stealth technology.
  27. +2
    4 March 2014 18: 07
    Quote: supertiger21
    . I hope this fighter will have advanced 5th generation avionics and stealth technology.

    and is it at speeds greater than 3M?
    1. 0
      4 March 2014 22: 11
      Quote: saag
      and is it at speeds greater than 3M?


      Well, not the whole flight will be at 3000 km / h. Do not forget about the cruising mode.
  28. -1
    4 March 2014 18: 49
    Uh, an amateur's question - why should an analogue of the MiG-31, and not the MiG-25 be created? Just because the 31st was more focused on anti-missile "work", or are there other reasons?
  29. -1
    4 March 2014 19: 35
    Sorry for the humor, but in some pictures it looks like a flying iron ;-) And the "harpoon" project is just beautiful ...
  30. +2
    4 March 2014 19: 54
    Mig 31 is the modernization of Mig25. probably the only sharpened one to shoot down cruise missiles. TTX is still not inferior to modern aircraft. he would have been advised by modern electronics and more economical engines for a long time, and so his modernization is simply nothing at least in electronics. su35 is replaced by him, but it has not been adopted yet.
    1. +1
      4 March 2014 20: 02
      I do not agree. The similarity is, rather, only external, in layout, and in the name of the development of the E-155 ...
      Regarding more to serve, I agree.
      1. 0
        4 March 2014 21: 02
        Mig 31 was collected on the same stocks where previously collected the instant 25
  31. dmitrij.blyuz
    -1
    4 March 2014 23: 22
    Isn’t it time to work on the development of Bartini under the modern reality?
  32. +2
    6 March 2014 06: 40
    iron
    Sorry for the humor, but in some pictures it looks like a flying iron
    iron
  33. 0
    6 March 2014 23: 52
    Well, there is a hope that the topic of "512" edition may be revived. In the second half of the 80s, work on it at the Mikoyanists went in full swing. I saw the layout of the cabin myself. The layout looks very much like a picture of "Harpoon", the entire appearance at that time was a secret behind seven seals. The car was supposed to replace the MiG-31. Therefore, the characteristics were higher. Kvochur, naturally, was in the subject, so he knows what he says.
    But I think it is incorrect to assign a serial name to an aircraft that has not yet been created. And then there was already a precedent with the birth of the MiG-37 ... in the form of a plastic model from Itallery. In the OKB them. Mikoyan's joke was appreciated. smile
  34. +1
    April 27 2014 18: 24
    I will say briefly ... a long-range high-altitude interceptor of the RF Armed Forces is needed, it is good that we are working on this topic.
  35. 0
    15 May 2014 16: 58
    Most likely, the PAK FA will not be able to completely replace the MiG-31, after all, the interceptor is engaged in tasks of practically strategic importance, and it is unreasonable to separate a heavy fighter from tactical tasks. Moreover, in the near future, IMHO, there will certainly be an issue of creating an air-based missile defense system, and the requirements for the carrier of interceptor missiles will most likely be somewhere between the MiG-31 and strategic missile carriers, i.e. tremendous speed + powerful radar + high carrying capacity (anti-missiles will probably weigh a lot) + long loitering time ... I'm not an expert, but something like the above "Harpoon" will be needed ...
  36. 0
    24 October 2014 11: 58
    It’s good that they thought better of it, and did not cut all 31 into titanium! But they cut it. And how they cut it, what was left for modernization is a small fraction of what was done in the USSR! 31, a beautiful car, if I’m not mistaken, then the flight time at its super sonic speed is limited only by the amount of fuel, unlike the SU. Simply ingeniously designed, one of the best interceptors, not only of its time, but also of our time. As far as I remember, the MIG 31 modification was developed, capable of hitting satellites in orbit, of course thanks to a rocket, but this is also not unimportant, if you take into account. that with the Americans, half of the missiles fly on GPS, and having shot down at least part of the satellites of this system, you can deprive them of the hope that the rocket will reach the target at all, and not come back. It is also a pity that the heavy UAV, developed by the MIG designers, was never adopted, and the idea was also interesting. We’ll wait and see what happens from the new development, and whether it will be cut in the bud, as it is now fashionable to do, in pursuit of what was once there. they’ll create better, they promised, so, your project is a mess!

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