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About the steep peak of the Russian ruble in the light of recent events

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One of the main News the week, which many media associate with the situation in Ukraine (especially in Crimea), is the depreciation of the Russian ruble against the euro and the dollar. On Monday March 3, 2014, the ruble dipped against these currencies to their historic low. So for the dollar at the end of trading on the exchange they gave 36,37 rubles, and for the euro - more than 50 rubles (to be more precise - 50 rubles. 15 kopecks). The transition of the euro through the "psychological" mark of 50 rubles made experts say that the whole thing is in the development of the Ukrainian scenario. Like, if the position of Russia was more restrained, today the ruble exchange rate could be much higher. And so, they say, the ruble falls against world currencies according to true economic laws, read, completely objectively ...


The ubiquitous American Secretary of State John Kerry added fuel to the fire, saying something from the category of near-political and near-economic esotericism:

The ruble is already falling, anticipating the consequences of international sanctions.


About the steep peak of the Russian ruble in the light of recent events


The US Secretary of State has a premonition that foreign currency has a premonition ...

The opinion of experts that the ruble could be significantly stronger if not for the “series of decisions of the Russian authorities on Ukraine” would certainly be interesting. The situation in which the Ukrainian ruin affects the ruble one way or another is quite understandable. But it is only somewhat strange that economic experts write off problems with the ruble exchange rate solely on Ukrainian perturbations. The fact is that the ruble against the euro and the dollar began to fall not yesterday or even the day before yesterday. The beginning of the fall came at a time when the new “Maidan” (at least openly) was out of the question.

To understand this, it is enough to look at the dynamics of the rate of the Russian currency in relation to the US currency, starting from the end of January last year. January 28 The 2013 ruble against the US dollar was at the exchange rate mark of 29 rubles 99 kopecks. Until 1 April 2013, the dollar rose to 31,62 rubles. for a unit. Next - a small acting out positions ruble to 30,93, after which - a new fall. Then - a few more "roller coasters" - and the fall continues to this day.

It turns out that the sinking of the Russian currency began a few months before the announced on “the cause of all ruble troubles” performances on the Maidan and all the events that followed them started.

In this situation, economic gurus are again included, stating that since the beginning of Russian political activity on the situation in Ukraine (in Crimea) the angle of the fall of the Russian ruble has become more acute. Like, before that, if the ruble was devalued, it was only “smoothly”, but now, you see, objectively broke through.

Well, if this is considered an “objective situation in the economy,” then it would be interesting to mentally transfer to the April-May 2012 of the year. The then dynamic suggests that in only one month the ruble managed to lose 15% of its value immediately. It would seem that there is no connection between the current level of the fall of the Russian currency and its then 15% subsidence. But this is only at first glance. If we pay closer attention to April-May 2012, we can recall that this is the very period of time when the “swamp” opposition splashed saliva in the streets and squares about preparations for the inauguration and the very inauguration of President Vladimir Putin. The famous rally of 6 in May and its consequences ... This is where a certain connection emerges with the Ukrainian events and “their” influence on the exchange rate.

That is, the situation looks approximately as follows: if the direct, say so, the owners of those very “world” currencies (euro and dollar) want to support by their own forces, trying to ruin, for example, the constitutional order in the Russian world (in the broad sense of the word) then the most “most objective” economic process is activated, which leads to a sharp subsidence of the Russian currency to the American currency. Someone after that still believes that the world economy is regulated exclusively by an unbiased, independent market? ..

If this is the case, then in the economics textbooks it would be time to write down the following in black and white: the dollar and the euro are instruments of influence (attempts to influence) of the western economy on economic and political life in different regions of the planet. Let's call things by their names. And then the market, you know ... State non-interference ... Yeah ...

In such a situation, those who are confident that the current situation is the absolute collapse of the Russian ruble can be attributed to a special class. Either these people for some reason were not used to getting acquainted with changes in the exchange rate in a more extensive retrospective, or “all-pro-prodadism” struck the brain of representatives of this class irreversibly. It is strange to hear a person who, in an interview, states that now, they say, his purchasing power will decrease, you see, just because Russia “got in” with its opinion on Ukraine ... That is, the message is this: if we continued to chew snot and once again they threw their brothers (now in the Crimea), then the Eurocurrency would now cost not half a quintal odd, but “only” rubles, so 46-47 ... A man is killed, that now he will have to refuse french fries in McDonalds, but “Get by” just double something there like “big maca” or “po nn cheeseburger ", because purchasing power and so on ... Man tearing his hair out because a ticket to the Maldives, whether risen see.

If for such a person the price of the safety of another person (even if the same average Crimean citizen) is less than the cost of a sandwich or a momentary rise in price of a trip to a hot country, then such a gentleman can only be regretted because the idea of ​​total consumption finally celebrated a victory over him, over his common sense. But lately, we have formed quite a few groups of people for whom the fear of missing something in consumer terms is in many ways above human conscience.

However, it is worth returning to the tendency of the Russian ruble to fall. As already noted, the fall did not start at all from the moment of the fire on the Maidan (during this fire the fall only worsened). A drop, by the way, with far from cheap oil (today they give about 110 dollars per barrel). Could such a decline in the national currency be beneficial to someone inside Russia itself? It may even be. If we take into account that the Central Bank, to put it mildly, is not in a hurry to take effective steps to stabilize the course in the presence of those impressive levers that the Central Bank has for this a priori, then we cannot exclude that there are “comrades” interested in devaluation of the ruble on this side of the border . At least in the government, they react very restraint to the actual depreciation, which has been going on for over a year now. Why would it ... It turns out, as always, one of two things: either the government is not able to cope with economic challenges, or not to cope with them - this is the main task of the Cabinet of Ministers today ... but here it looks like a "fork".
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  1. Samaritan
    Samaritan 4 March 2014 08: 58
    +37
    Everyone understands that it is beneficial for Russia as an exporter, but this benefit will not reach ordinary people, we will again be in ...
    1. ZU-23
      ZU-23 4 March 2014 09: 07
      +4
      So what will happen to you, the main thing is that inflation does not rise above forecasts, for this the Central Bank of the Russian Federation also raises the ruble rate.
      1. domokl
        domokl 4 March 2014 09: 22
        +34
        Let me express the opinion of a person who understands the economy only at the level of his own wallet.
        It’s interesting that the ruble is falling ... The main thing is on time ... A kind of invalid, with a thick belly and a big enough bag behind laughing So it seems to me that the ruble is not just falling, but falling on the bad heads of some Western politicians.
        Our export is higher than import. Yes, and the price of what we export in US and European rubles. And in our country the ruble is ours ... And Russian businessmen are now scratching their turnips, whether to buy underwear and panties in the West for American rubles, or wait a while ... There are stocks, and then ... the Chinese are also not of poor quality lol
        1. avt
          avt 4 March 2014 09: 55
          +13
          Quote: domokl
          So it seems to me that the ruble is not just falling, but falling on the bad heads of some Western politicians.
          Our export is higher than import. Yes, and the price of what we export in US and European rubles. And in our country the ruble is ours ... And Russian businessmen are now scratching their turnips, whether to buy underwear and panties in the West for American rubles, or wait a while ... There are stocks, and then ... the Chinese are also not of poor quality

          In general, I agree, but in principle I cannot hear about the fact that the ruble, as some kind of animated object, as well as other banknotes, either falls or rises! Naturally, ----- ,, At least the government is very restrained in reacting to the actual depreciation, which has been going on for more than a year. Why would it be ... It turns out, as always, one of two things: either the government is unable to cope with economic challenges, or not to cope with them - this is the main task of the Cabinet of Ministers today ... But I don't want neither the first nor the second, but here it looks like a "fork." "----- Yes, about this" fall "sensible people warned long before the events in Ukraine! And the withdrawal of money from Russia and, naturally, the beginning of the growth of the exchange rate, is directly related to statements about deoffshorization and subsequent actions in the form of revoking licenses from banks - garbage dumpsters directly involved in cashing and withdrawing money.
          Quote: twviewer
          This government must be driven up, for in such a situation no enemies are needed.

          Naturally, the government is heterogeneous and the leading role in it is played, to this day, by members of the Gaidarov Witnesses sect, they are still blowing in their ears that the climate for business is not the same, and the Holy Investment is angry, but it is urgently necessary to bring a sacrifice to the All-Regulatory Market.
        2. Boris55
          Boris55 4 March 2014 10: 31
          +5
          Quote: domokl
          and then ... the Chinese are also not bad quality make the goods

          Yes, and with China you can not trade for green but for the same rubles.
          So the threat of amers about "don't touch Ukraine, otherwise it will be bad" is ineffective and may ultimately lead to Russia's abandonment of the green, which will lead to a chain reaction around the world, and as a result - pi'pez America.
          1. avt
            avt 4 March 2014 10: 41
            +13
            Quote: Boris55
            Yes, and with China you can not trade for green but for the same rubles.

            So already signed an agreement on the calculation in rubles and yuan.
            1. Evkur
              Evkur 4 March 2014 13: 26
              0
              skinte the link - to be glad?
              1. avt
                avt 4 March 2014 15: 34
                +2
                8% of the trade turnover since 2008 is in the national currency. In an interview, when the GDP was in Germany - “3 days ago we agreed with China on mutual settlements in national currencies, yuan and rubles ... we want to protect ourselves from these fluctuations ... We must get away from the dollar monopoly.” So which has been going on since 2012. By the way, for 15 billion yuan in 2012, Ukraine decided and signed documents to try in trade.
              2. igordok
                igordok 4 March 2014 16: 35
                +5
                Putin Advisor: in case of sanctions against Russia, Russia will refuse the dollar

                MOSCOW, 4 Mar. - RIA Novosti. If sanctions are imposed by the US Senate, Russia will be forced to go to other currencies, create its own settlement and payment system, Russian Presidential Advisor Sergei Glazyev said in an interview with RIA Novosti on Tuesday.

                "We will have to go to other currencies, create our own settlement and payment system. We have excellent trade and economic relations with our partners in the East and South, and we will find a way not only to nullify our financial dependence on the United States, but also get out of these sanctions with great benefit for ourselves.An attempt to declare sanctions against the Russian Federation will result in a collapse for the US financial system, which will entail the end of the US dominance in the global financial system.If sanctions are applied against state structures, we will be forced to actually admit the impossibility of returning those loans that were given to Russian structures by US banks, because sanctions are a double-edged weapon, and if the US freezes our assets, then, accordingly, the liabilities of our organizations in dollars will also be frozen. This means that our banks and enterprises will not return to US loans to partners, "Glazyev said.

                If the US freezes the accounts of Russian enterprises and citizens, the Russian authorities will recommend that everyone sell US government bonds, the presidential adviser said.

                “The Americans threaten Russia with sanctions and involve the EU in a trade and economic war with Russia. Regarding the possible consequences of these sanctions, I can say the following: the US itself will suffer the most from the sanctions against Russia, because if we talk about trade relations with America, we are not affected by them. We hold treasury bills for a decent amount - more than $ 200 billion, and if the United States dares to impose sanctions against us to freeze the accounts of Russian enterprises and citizens, then we will no longer be able to view America as a reliable partner and will recommend everyone to dump American Treasury bills , dump dollars as a currency that we cannot be sure of and leave the American market. "

                RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/economy/20140304/998048715.html#ixzz2v06YJJnb
                1. Pilat2009
                  Pilat2009 4 March 2014 16: 54
                  +1
                  Quote: igordok
                  will recommend everyone to sell US government bonds

                  And who has them besides our government? It has long been said to you, dol .... fuck, example Fanny taught nothing
          2. vezunchik
            vezunchik 4 March 2014 17: 56
            +1
            we have an agreement with China - all payments in national currency - yuan-ruble
          3. KOH
            KOH 5 March 2014 07: 49
            0
            I bought everything in China for rubles ...
        3. Hon
          Hon 4 March 2014 10: 46
          +2
          Quote: domokl
          Let me express the opinion of a person who understands the economy only at the level of his own wallet. It’s interesting that the ruble is falling ... The main thing is on time ... It’s a kind of invalid with a thick belly and a big enough bag behind it. So it seems to me that the ruble is not just falling, but falling on the bad heads of some Western politicians. Our export is higher than import. Yes, and the price of what we export in US and European rubles. And in our country the ruble is ours ... And Russian businessmen are now scratching their turnips, whether to buy underwear and panties in the West for American rubles, or wait a while ... There are stocks, and then ... the Chinese are also not of poor quality

          Well, firstly, the fall of the ruble already entails an increase in prices for consumer goods. Secondly, the Central Bank keeps the ruble by raising rates, and this is a blow to the same industry. Earlier, the government said that if the refinancing rate is increased, then the planned growth of the economy and industry will not be. That is, the planned growth rate is not so high, and if the rate increases, they will be even lower. So and to stagnation is not far. The advantages of a low ruble exchange rate are very few for us, since oil is the main export product for us, and it is getting cheaper. Those who sell underpants can and plan to wait for something there, but big business withdraws capital from Russia. So a recession will be a likely consequence for the economy. And specifically for the layman, this is expressed in inflation and a possible increase in unemployment.
          1. jjj
            jjj 4 March 2014 11: 47
            +7
            Quote: Hon
            oil is an export product for us, and it is just getting cheaper

            Oil is getting more expensive
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            2. Hon
              Hon 4 March 2014 11: 54
              0
              Oil on the world market is getting cheaper, this is one of the external factors of the ruble depreciation. After the January drop in Brent oil quotes from 112,14 to 105,34 USD per barrel, hydrocarbon prices stabilized at $ 105-106,4, five dollars a month is a drop, it is highly likely that prices will drop to $ 100 or lower, as winter ends and This means that fuel consumption will be reduced.
              1. Setrac
                Setrac 4 March 2014 16: 18
                +2
                Quote: Hon
                Oil on the world market is getting cheaper, this is one of the external factors of the ruble depreciation.

                What nonsense did you write? If the ruble depended so much on the price of oil, then with an increase in the price of oil, the ruble would grow stronger and stronger, but this is not.
          2. twviewer
            twviewer 4 March 2014 12: 18
            +3
            Quote: Hon

            Well, firstly, the fall of the ruble already entails an increase in prices for consumer goods. Secondly, the Central Bank keeps the ruble by raising rates, and this is a blow to the same industry. Earlier, the government said that if the refinancing rate is increased, then the planned growth of the economy and industry will not be. That is, the planned growth rate is not so high, and if the rate increases, they will be even lower. So and to stagnation is not far. The advantages of a low ruble exchange rate are very few for us, since oil is the main export product for us, and it is getting cheaper. Those who sell underpants can and plan to wait for something there, but big business withdraws capital from Russia. So a recession will be a likely consequence for the economy. And specifically for the layman, this is expressed in inflation and a possible increase in unemployment.

            Central Bank rate increased by 1.5 points to 7%
            "As an emergency measure, since March 3, the key rate has been raised from 5,5% to 7% per annum. At the same time, the Bank of Russia announced that it may, if necessary, continue to raise interest rates, as well as further strengthen its presence in the foreign exchange market to maintain course.
            Read completely: http://quote.rbc.ru/comments/2014/03/04/34127411.html "
            so gentlemen, minusers, they will soon learn economics on their own skin :)
          3. Arkon
            Arkon 4 March 2014 12: 53
            +6
            The advantages of the low ruble exchange rate are very few for us, since oil is the main export product for us,


            You forget about the domestic market. In particular - agricultural. In recent years, we have built up a bunch of meat and dairy industries. And all they need for a quick start is a fair ruble exchange rate, because an artificially high ruble simply crushes them with imports.
            They waited.
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            2. Hon
              Hon 4 March 2014 13: 01
              +2
              Quote: Arkon
              In recent years, we have built up a bunch of meat and dairy industries.

              For the construction of production, loans are taken, and at a high refinancing rate, many enterprises simply will not pull these loans. The ruble is artificially inflated ?! Surround yourself
              1. Sasha
                Sasha 4 March 2014 23: 57
                +1
                Thank you very much for your comments. it’s rare to read an understanding professional review, but how I read all the generals and even economists at the same time. I’ll just add on my own 1. according to the courses, the author, to put it mildly, is disingenuous, you can follow the link to follow the course over the past two years. took and concluded.
                2. they will give up dollars about it - they made fun of the question of what they will do when they start to freeze accounts in the same America and they understand this
                3. Regarding China / Russia, import export - I have not yet encountered that for rubles they agreed to sell for the yuan, then of course it is - only money has a question of exchange rate and the currency rate is made today by leading world currencies, unfortunately the ruble The relationship is very mediocre.
            3. twviewer
              twviewer 4 March 2014 13: 13
              +1
              Quote: Arkon

              You forget about the domestic market. In particular - agricultural. In recent years, we have built up a bunch of meat and dairy industries. And all they need for a quick start is a fair ruble exchange rate, because an artificially high ruble simply crushes them with imports.
              They waited.

              what these industries needed was a cheap loan, a tax reduction (a producer cannot pay as much as a seller) and a freezing of energy tariffs
              and now they will be a little happy, and then they will cry: inflation, growth of tariffs and cost of loans
          4. Suvorov000
            Suvorov000 4 March 2014 16: 47
            +1
            And then you will be forced to work and not to make money out of nothing, then you immediately leave Jewish ways, begin to engage in production, and not to earn interest when transferring money, raise agriculture, restore the textile industry, restore the auto industry to working capacity
          5. Dilshat
            Dilshat 4 March 2014 21: 39
            +2
            Enemies of the people are sitting right there in the Central Bank.
        4. Uncle
          Uncle 4 March 2014 16: 12
          +3
          Quote: domokl
          a person who understands the economy only at the level of his own wallet.

          For companies trading in imported goods, the leaps in the euro are simply deadly. Sellers and buyers, the simplest people, including you, suffer from the inaccessibility of imported goods. In the price of bread there is a share of foreign ingredients, loans, transport. Too many imported goods do not have a Russian counterpart. And the point is not in the know as such, as in its STABILITY and the Predictable growth. Let me remind you that the Soviet economy, so cute to many, was planned, that is, it was based on calculations for years to come.
      2. Ross
        Ross 4 March 2014 12: 16
        +2
        It is time for us to draw conclusions and look for leaders for the government, not only in fraternal Ukraine. Do we really have no patriots-specialists?
      3. 123dv
        123dv 4 March 2014 12: 23
        +6
        If someone’s memory is fresh enough, then it is worth recalling the events of 08.08.2008/XNUMX/XNUMX.
        It is believed that this whole mess was just a smokescreen, a cover for the global financial and economic operation to alienate hundreds of billions of dollars, in favor of the United States, and the change in oil prices conjuncture.
        While the guns spoke, the oil price fell three times, the ruble collapsed, and the Western economies strengthened their positions ....
        Six years have passed.
        Again stormy events, again the Olympics, they shoot again and the ruble falls again.
        No need to panic, everything is coming, and money too.
        Be happy!
      4. sub307
        sub307 4 March 2014 16: 37
        +1
        What is the "ruble rate"? If you mean the refinancing rate - the amount of interest on an annualized basis payable to the central bank of the country for loans that the central bank has provided to credit institutions, so it has been since 2012. does not "sway" with 8,25%. And, here's the key rate - the main indicator of the direction of monetary policy was really raised by 1,5% (up to 7%) TEMPORARILY. As they think - really to prevent inflation risks (I would say - hyperinflation, since inflation is higher than the plan for us Unfortunately, it is obvious that it cannot be avoided. From the devaluation of the ruble alone + the "lame" economy as a whole: in a month or two we will see the price tags in the shops). The fact that all exports are "velet" - "do not go to the fortuneteller."
        By 2016, they are thinking of leveling rates: key and refinancing, wait and see.
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        2. Hon
          Hon 4 March 2014 17: 32
          0
          What are we talking about. It’s just that many people are sure that a depreciation of the ruble (or rather a fall) is good for us, but the problem is that the main export item is hydrocarbons. The allowance for agricultural products is also doubtful, since the cost of fuel and lubricants will play a significant role in its production. A forced rate increase (key) will stifle production. It is hoped that this TEMPORARY measure will be short-term.
          Quote: sub307
          The fact that all exports are "velette" - "do not go to the fortuneteller."

          Export of what?
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    3. twviewer
      twviewer 4 March 2014 09: 20
      +14
      The fall of the ruble is necessary for the government to patch up budget holes in a stagnant economy (we do not produce fuckers). This task is carried out by the Central Bank, and :) a sea of ​​speculators.
      just rejoice don’t pay all of this you are buying from your pocket import, plus inflation, increasing energy tariffs and, as a result, even greater degradation of production.
      PS: This government must be driven up by yourselves, for in such a situation no enemies are needed.
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 4 March 2014 09: 25
        +1
        Yes, it doesn’t get through here that we are not producing something, we have the main stock of world resources and the point when this stock is protected by us as it should be will make it hard for any such idiots to live in this world.
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      3. domokl
        domokl 4 March 2014 09: 28
        +7
        Quote: twviewer
        The fall of the ruble is necessary for the government to patch up budget holes in a stagnant economy (we do not make a fuck)

        It’s interesting how many times a day you exchange rubles for bucks? Just for fun ... Do you have any money in stores?
        All these tariff increases and other were not announced today, but when the ruble was strong.
        And for production ... Look at the statistics. What and where is produced ... The business has long become intentional and the same as Tayota or Renault, produced in Russia already in Russia ...
        Russians are being introduced into Western companies, and those, naturally, into Russian ones. This is a normal process.
        1. twviewer
          twviewer 4 March 2014 09: 54
          +2
          Quote: domokl
          Quote: twviewer
          The fall of the ruble is necessary for the government to patch up budget holes in a stagnant economy (we do not make a fuck)

          It’s interesting how many times a day you exchange rubles for bucks? Just for fun ... Do you have any money in stores?
          All these tariff increases and other were not announced today, but when the ruble was strong.
          And for production ... Look at the statistics. What and where is produced ... The business has long become intentional and the same as Tayota or Renault, produced in Russia already in Russia ...
          Russians are being introduced into Western companies, and those, naturally, into Russian ones. This is a normal process.

          If you do not produce anything, what goods do you buy in the store? imported! bought for currency
          do you need machines for production? imported
          and energy resources ??
          and loans (inflation) ???
          PS and then some of the story does not teach anything, and they still focus on oil :) what do you think why the USSR collapsed ??? :)

          and I don’t need to tell me about the iota-backgrounds produced for Russia .. I haven’t heard anything about them for a long time :)))

          and for the sake of entertainment, compare the prices of Toyota or Renault in Japan, the USA or France, but rather, try to sell the products made with us there :)
          1. domokl
            domokl 4 March 2014 10: 09
            +4
            In the store I buy Russian goods manufactured in Russia by our citizens, but at firms either owned or with the participation of foreign capital ... So what? If I bought a TV from a Korean company made in Poland, then whose is the TV? And if it’s exactly the same company but already made in Russia, then whose is it?
            If Hyundai Solaris is being produced at the IL plant now, then whose is Solaris? Russia has long been importing, for the most part, not finished products, but technologies. And international cooperation, it is cooperation ...
            Why in the West do not hesitate to produce Niva under our brand and from our components. And gnikto does not shout that this is import ..
            1. twviewer
              twviewer 4 March 2014 10: 16
              -4
              Tell me, how is this stream of consciousness related to the topic of the article? or the fall of the ruble.
              buddy do not waste time in vain. take a book on economics there you will find a lot of interesting ... because I feel the potential in you.
              1. Sasha
                Sasha 5 March 2014 00: 10
                +1
                now they will shower you with hats ...
            2. Field
              Field 4 March 2014 16: 12
              +3
              All the same, it would be correct to write not "release", but "collect".
              And the Korean company’s TV (from Chinese components) and the Hyundai Solaris car (from car kits, part of components from China)

              And about Yotofon the founder himself said: "To release in Russia is impossible."

              And in most cases, they just order in China, there is a full cycle (even the inscriptions on the packages), and the trend of recent years in China began to print, ATTENTION - BOOKS !!!
              1. Sasha
                Sasha 5 March 2014 00: 12
                0
                Quote: Field
                And in most cases, they just order in China, there is a full cycle (even the inscriptions on the packages), and the trend of recent years in China began to print, ATTENTION - BOOKS !!!

                I want to disappoint you, they’re printing not quite a long time ago, I came across this 7 years ago
          2. brainkiller
            brainkiller 4 March 2014 10: 19
            +1
            all right you say, we are waiting for an increase in prices for imported goods and raw materials for the production of which are also imported.
            and for fun, compare the prices of Toyota or Renault in Japan
            for fun, compare how much milk or bread you can buy for 36 rubles in the Russian Federation and how many of these same goods for a dollar in the USA - and then a picture of the real purchasing power of the ruble (well, very very approximately) will appear.
            As for production, what do you think is more important now? To invest in production in investments (the effectiveness of which is in doubt) or in the armament of the army and navy? I prefer the second option - at least there is something to see. In addition, the development of the military-industrial complex, whose competitiveness is without a doubt. And the arms market is developing rapidly, everyone is getting ready for something.
            1. twviewer
              twviewer 4 March 2014 10: 35
              +4
              maybe the average salary is comparable to the cost of the main consumer basket? :)
              The military-industrial complex is perhaps the only production sector capable of surviving, here both the orders and profitability are different: the cost of a MILITARY bolt differs from the usual 10 times :)
              but in order to produce really cool technology, for example, one cannot do without microelectronics, and + a bunch of "related" industries that are degrading or absent nowadays
          3. Antiquetoy
            Antiquetoy 4 March 2014 10: 45
            -3
            By the way, in Russian yotafons - zero. The fact that this is a domestic smartphone is pure populism.
          4. rozowik
            rozowik 4 March 2014 14: 48
            0
            Is it strange that I buy goods made in Russia? Interesting, huh?
            Iota-backgrounds are still being produced, the second line has long been announced. For that matter.
            Why don’t you produce anything yourself? Why do you hope for the state?
            Enterprises are being built and we are producing a lot. And you just chew snot. At work we called them "CHAPAI": they want everything at once and preferably more. Just hammer on the tank with a saber ...
            1. Field
              Field 4 March 2014 16: 17
              +4
              You mean Yotofon, take an interest in more detail, watch the interview there. The line was announced, and just at the presentation of the second line, the founder of the company said: "To produce in Russia - this is impossible." The interview was given to the host of "Vesti.net" and showed "Russia 24".
        2. elmi
          elmi 4 March 2014 10: 01
          +24
          Here was a good article about the dollar, with an appeal to distribute as much as possible. I made a repost on my contact page, and now I looked it was deleted. I worked hard and found this article on the net and post it here again: http://politobzor.net/12800-otkazhis-ot-dollara.html
          appeal to all residents of Kazakhstan, Russia and Belarus.


          I urge all citizens of the Customs Union not to support the United States through the use of the dollar.
          Understand:
          - every time you buy or sell anything for dollars, you support the economy of a foreign country

          - America consumes HALF of all earthly resources (if there is no America, conditionally, each of us will have TWO TIMES more resources than now)
          - by brainwashing you were told that it is profitable to keep savings in dollars, because the currency of your country is constantly devaluing. REALLY REVERSED: KEEPING DOLLARS YOU TRUST AMERICA AND SO THE CURRENCY OF YOUR COUNTRY DECREASES
          - inside your country you do not need a dollar, you can buy absolutely everything for the currency of YOUR country
          - if you go to China, buy a yuan; if you go to the EU, buy euros
          - remember: the dollar is still alive only because you use it
          -Everything depends on you ALSO (do not believe it when they say that nothing depends on you)

          Be a patriot of YOUR COUNTRY
          GIVE A CHANCE TO YOUR COUNTRY !!!!!!!!! SELL AND DO NOT USE DOLLAR !!!!!!!

          A REQUEST FOR ALL WHO AGREE TO THIS TEXT TO DISTRIBUT IT AS WIDE AS IT IS POSSIBLE
          THAN MORE ABOUT US, THEN WE ARE STRONGER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!
          1. brainkiller
            brainkiller 4 March 2014 10: 21
            +6
            I have a ruble deposit, of course, not a little has been lost by the difference in rates, but I’m not going to transfer to the bucks now
          2. Novik
            Novik 4 March 2014 12: 29
            +7
            And also refuse Macdonalds and KFS, do not buy Coca-Cola, Pepsi-Cola, American brands of cigarettes, etc. etc. (we’ll be healthier), so American manufacturers will be the first to howl and will themselves demand from their government the lifting of sanctions.

            The US threatens Russia. What will be the "Russian otvetka"?

            http://www.politonline.ru/comments/15557.html
      4. Valrad
        Valrad 4 March 2014 09: 43
        +9
        sometimes it seems to me that the west patches its economic holes mainly at the expense of other countries .... and in Russia at the expense of its citizens. I feel in my wallet) is not patriotic, but true.
      5. aunt
        aunt 4 March 2014 10: 11
        +19
        As for the production, not everything is so simple. Yes, light industry, truselles and so on, we don’t do maybe .. but new plants open almost once a month.
        I work in the field of building materials, factories producing only mineral wool covered the whole of the Russian Federation, the production of mixtures and so on are also being built.
        defense industry- has money at least eat guzzle, and also something is being done (the same helicopter plants are already in the Russian Federation, and not in Ukraine.)
        In the near future, 2 trillion scars will go to the military space industry. These are also factories.
        so slower than I would like, but the process is on.

        The course could be supported, the Central Bank has accumulated enough green papers, but for some reason does not. Why?
        You can guess, one of the versions has already been voiced here, because the low ruble completely bends the export of dollars and other countries.
        And it sounded about China. But I’ll add that they didn’t write, China threatened the States with presenting their bills for payment. These wise yellow-faced brothers bought up the debts of the Tan. And now they can present them. There are so many dogs that the Tan will feel it and soundly. I can assume that some coordination of actions is not accidental. In addition, China said that it considers the actions of the Russian Federation to be right, it is worth a lot and one more argument in favor of the coordinated actions of the Russian Federation and China.
        The world has not become unipolar, as the ova people thought for the last 20 years, not only they are making politics.
        Russia has lost a lot of time and money because of the stupidity (betrayal), self-confidence (drunkenness) of our labeled and conducting presidents. Now Putin is winning back everything. If in the West it squeals, it means everything the Russian Federation is doing right.
        For Putin, it is very important to approach the elections with a significant event in your pocket, by this time I think the Crimea and part of Ukraine will be part of the Russian Federation.

        It would be very interesting to see part 2 of the Marlezon ballet — the first joint steps of the Russian Federation + China to collect debts from America and something else exotic.
        Today, this man-horse Keri announced the freezing of military and commercial cooperation.
        Both that and another are fearless, This is an advancing game-seeing that no one is going to raise the ruble-we realized that the trade will collapse-and used it as a maneuver. The trick will be, if tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, they will also ask for debts, where to get the money from when the Russian market is curtailed ... to print again? The Federal Reserve does not allow, limits the volume. Veselukha is planned ..
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 4 March 2014 12: 54
          +1
          Quote: aunt
          The course could be supported, the Central Bank has accumulated enough green papers, but for some reason does not. Why?

          If the Central Bank did not support the exchange rate, the ruble would now be in the region of 50-60 per dollar.
          In January, 10 billion was spent on maintaining the exchange rate from gold reserves, in February it was already more than 10 billion. On March 3, 1 billion dollars.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 4 March 2014 18: 42
            0
            Quote: baltika-18
            In January, 10 billion was spent on maintaining the exchange rate from gold reserves, in February it was already more than 10 billion. On March 3, 1 billion dollars.

            To buy dollars you need rubles - if they are not printed too much, you can predict when the attack will end. If it is printed more than the Bank’s reserves, then kapets. Only the population will really suffer from growth — it will pay the costs of producers
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 4 March 2014 21: 30
              0
              Quote: Pilat2009
              To buy dollars you need rubles, if

              And why actually buy them?
              The Central Bank, on the contrary, is now enchantingly throwing them into the market.
              Dumps?
        2. Igor39
          Igor39 4 March 2014 13: 10
          +1
          Putin and his team are several steps ahead of their actions and any of their actions only aggravates the position of the West and drives a wedge into their relationship. Putin is a grandmaster in world politics.
      6. mirag2
        mirag2 4 March 2014 10: 15
        +1
        The ruble may have fallen at first at the request of our authorities in order to find additional resources (after all, the main content of the state budget is from gas and oil), but then (now) is already the work of our enemies because of the cordon, the neo-colonialists of the EU and the Fed .
        This is the CLEAN ECONOMIC PRESSURE-that this will cause wild inflation, and our bank was just about to switch to the ruble rate tied to inflation in the country (that’s why they wanted to freeze the growth of housing and communal services tariffs, but only liberal economists — read the allies of the neocolonialists — are resisting ...) - and now the collapse of aspirations is possible Putin in that direction.
        They crush Russia, both from abroad and from within.
        Therefore, I got the impression that this is the last and decisive battle for Russia ...
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      8. Hon
        Hon 4 March 2014 10: 54
        +1
        Of course it is, but the external and internal debt of the Russian Federation is low, what holes should be patched up? IN
        1. Papakiko
          Papakiko 4 March 2014 12: 15
          0
          Quote: Hon
          but the external and internal debt of the Russian Federation is low, what holes should be patched up?

          With the debts of the Russian Federation, everything is "normal" and there is no need to optimize unnecessarily.
          Quote: Hon
          This indicates how much prices will rise during the year, by 5 or 20 percent, there is a difference for you

          Prices without currency leaps are steadily rising due to the growth of tariffs on natural monopolies. Everything else is trash.
      9. ale-x
        ale-x 4 March 2014 12: 28
        0
        Some have already chased away))) No offense, but let's wait for the end of the "Crimean Saga"
    4. atarix
      atarix 4 March 2014 09: 37
      +2
      It is right to say Some people as exporters benefit, ordinary people will not get this benefit at all, because ordinary people get paid in depreciated rubles.
      1. domokl
        domokl 4 March 2014 10: 14
        +3
        Quote: atarix
        because ordinary people get paid in depreciated rubles.

        And what does this mean? Prices soared in stores? For ordinary people? I watch TV news daily and there is surely the most important for me infa rate of some sort of IMB that went up by so many points there, tomorrow dropped by so many points ... And to me what of this? Now, if the price of a loaf of bread rises, then yes ...
        In the same way, the ruble exchange rate ... I live in Russia and pay in rubles ..
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        2. Hon
          Hon 4 March 2014 10: 58
          +2
          Quote: domokl
          Prices soared in stores?

          prices will gradually rise, while in stores they sell what was bought before the depreciation. If all sorts of courses have grown today, tomorrow have fallen, this does not mean that prices in stores will jump at the same pace. This indicates how much prices will rise during the year, by 5 or 20 percent, is there a difference for you?
          1. twviewer
            twviewer 4 March 2014 11: 43
            +4
            Quote: Hon

            prices will gradually rise, while in stores they sell what was bought before the depreciation. If all sorts of courses have grown today, tomorrow have fallen, this does not mean that prices in stores will jump at the same pace. This indicates how much prices will rise during the year, by 5 or 20 percent, is there a difference for you?


            useless to explain. here the economy is simple if it sees sausages produced in Russia it means for rubles, but it is no longer able to understand from imported meat, food additives or other raw materials purchased for CURRENCY.
            PS. but that you need to buy equipment, take a loan, pay for heating with electricity, I have no idea
            1. Hon
              Hon 4 March 2014 11: 48
              +2
              And also gasoline, in dollar terms oil fell in price, but in Russia we will buy fuel and lubricants for depreciated rubles.
              1. twviewer
                twviewer 4 March 2014 12: 50
                +2
                Quote: Hon
                And also gasoline, in dollar terms oil fell in price, but in Russia we will buy fuel and lubricants for depreciated rubles.

                Naturally, at an inflated price, because it’s more profitable for a producer to sell gasoline for currency and receive VAT as a bonus, so either another gasoline crisis or an increase.
            2. Hon
              Hon 4 March 2014 11: 48
              0
              And also gasoline, in dollar terms oil fell in price, but in Russia we will buy fuel and lubricants for depreciated rubles.
          2. jjj
            jjj 4 March 2014 11: 56
            +2
            Quote: Hon
            prices will rise gradually, while in stores they sell what was bought before the depreciation

            No one sets consumer prices. They are set on the parity of supply and demand. The seller will ALWAYS sell the product at the highest possible price. As soon as the product begins to sell worse, a price reduction begins
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            2. Hon
              Hon 4 March 2014 12: 04
              +2
              Quote: jjj
              No one sets consumer prices. They are set on the parity of supply and demand. The seller will ALWAYS sell the product at the highest possible price. As soon as the product begins to sell worse, a price reduction begins

              You are confusing the amount of costs and the amount of the pledged profit, even with the lowest demand, no one will sell at the expense of profitability. If a seller bought goods at a price of 10 rubles yesterday and sold for, then today, when he purchases a product for 12, he will not sell it for 12. Therefore, it is not worth counting on the fact that we will not buy prices. Remember the recent rise in egg prices? What has so sharply increased demand for them? Prices are formed on the basis of many factors, not just school concepts of supply and demand.
              1. jjj
                jjj 4 March 2014 14: 35
                +1
                They began to sell eggs at 60 rubles. I wanted to vparit on 160. But those will stop taking. And it sometimes happens that they sell below profitability, if only to help out some money. Well, the usual trade markup is about 200 percent. In general, a product cannot be sold more expensively than it can be bought. And the one who offers the lower price wins. China to us as an example
        3. baltika-18
          baltika-18 4 March 2014 13: 22
          +2
          Quote: atarix
          It is profitable for some people as exporters, this benefit will not reach ordinary people at all, because ordinary people get paid in depreciated rubles

          Quote: domokl
          And what does this mean? Prices soared in stores? It is for ordinary people?

          The depreciation of the exchange rate does not affect prices at once, but within six months. Even from the official point of view of the Central Bank, an increase of one ruble in the exchange rate gives 0.5% in inflation. But the Central Bank will not tell you the truth.
          Let's see what happens in the summer.
    5. LaGlobal
      LaGlobal 4 March 2014 09: 42
      0
      No comments...
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    7. Scandinavian
      Scandinavian 4 March 2014 09: 52
      +4
      Samaritan SU Today, 08: 58 New

      Everyone understands that it is beneficial for Russia as an exporter, but this benefit will not reach ordinary people, we will again be in ...


      In the current situation, I think people understand that the weakening of the ruble is a temporary manifestation, as a result of events in Ukraine, it sank even more. But I’m sure the good majority of Russians understand that we won’t save Ukraine now, and we (Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus) will not see stability and prosperity in the future ....
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 4 March 2014 10: 37
        +3
        Quote: Scandinavian
        In the current situation, I think people understand that the weakening of the ruble is a temporary manifestation, as a result of events in Ukraine, it sank even more.


        Sinking not only the ruble, but also the currencies of almost all the BRICS countries and the post-Soviet space. Ukraine has nothing to do with it. There is a speculative game, but few economic factors. For some reason, no one notices a 10% drop in the ruble exchange rate for Gazprom, Sberbank and VTB. This is Ukraine, for these companies are the main creditors of the Ukrainian sector. While South Stream is not ready, Gazprom depends on gas transit. Gazprom may lose up to 20% of its profits. MTS may lose up to 10% Of the banks, only VEB will suffer seriously, which earned loans of 20 billion dollars to ukrooligarchs. But all these risks are either priced as in MTS or undervalued capitalization as in Gazprom (2,5-3 times). Therefore, the Ukrainian risks to our monopolies are like an elephant.
        Many agree that the depreciation of the ruble is "actions of the Russian monetary authorities" After all, a drop in the exchange rate of the Russian currency by 1 ruble per dollar gives an additional budget of about 180 billion rubles. Therefore, on February 2013, the Ministry of Finance of Russia began conducting operations to purchase foreign currency in the domestic foreign exchange market for transferring additional oil and gas revenues for the year 3,5 to the reserve fund. Between the end of May, a currency of 212,2 billion rubles per day will be purchased daily. In total, the Ministry of Finance will acquire a currency of XNUMX billion rubles. In other words, it is easier to say that economic growth slowed down, while the state earns less than it spends. Therefore, in order to get extra money to the budget, the Central Bank stopped pursuing a foreign exchange intervention policy, restraining the depreciation of the ruble, because its drop gives additional money to the budget.
        1. baltika-18
          baltika-18 4 March 2014 13: 02
          0
          Quote: Ascetic
          Therefore, in order to get additional money to the budget, the Central Bank stopped pursuing a policy of foreign exchange intervention,

          Extra money, yes, I agree. But this is a double-edged sword as usual. Acceleration of inflation, and not immediately.
          And interventions are being carried out. I have already cited figures, I repeat. January-10 billion dollars, February-more than 10 billion, for March 3-1 billion dollars.
        2. Luzhichanin
          Luzhichanin 4 March 2014 13: 31
          0
          Quote: Ascetic
          for transfer to the reserve fund

          wherever you say will list? well, of course, once in green papers means the fed fed
    8. Army1
      Army1 4 March 2014 09: 56
      +4
      When will we give up the dollar? And will we sell oil and gas for rubles?
      1. brainkiller
        brainkiller 4 March 2014 10: 23
        +2
        when the guys in vests hoist the tricolor over the white house =)
    9. Cynic
      Cynic 4 March 2014 10: 18
      +2
      Quote: Samaritan
      only to ordinary people this benefit

      Macroeconomics and family budget antagonists.
      1. Ascetic
        Ascetic 4 March 2014 12: 16
        +3
        Quote: Cynic
        Macroeconomics and family budget antagonists.


        I have a friend (fishing together), such an unrecognized financial genius-bug. So he explained to me the current situation. "for the crisis"... Now the Central Bank does not specifically restrain the fall of the exchange rate in order to replenish the budget at the expense of the dollar's rise in price. But this is fraught with inflation and rising prices. There is such a "red line" after which this inflation can develop into hyperinflation, since private business is not ready to raise salaries with rising prices, consumer demand will fall and then the financial crisis will develop into an economic one and then into a political one when miners again start knocking helmets on Vasilyevsky Spusk as with the Elcinoids. So he laid out this whole retrospective from the beginning of 2013. where the same situation was in June-July with an increase in the exchange rate, then it was caused by a decline in oil prices. Now oil is rising in price, on the contrary, and the growth of the dollar is caused by the games of speculators from overseas, who need to strengthen their CONFIDENCE in the "green candy wrapper" in order to painlessly stop the printing press so that this financial bubble does not burst but smoothly deflates by transferring the inflationary load to other countries. So when the risk of a transition to uncontrolled inflation comes, the Central Bank will again begin foreign exchange interventions to reduce inflation with the currency that it has been actively buying since February 20 and the exchange rate will stabilize and even fall. As he said literally, "Now is the time when you need to change Abram for rubles. So yes!"
    10. shtanko.49
      shtanko.49 4 March 2014 10: 25
      0
      Our oligarchs are muddying all this, withdrawing the currency over the hill closer to their villas, apparently received orders from the United States, and when Putin threatened to engage in offshore companies, they stirred like a ball of snakes. As long as they sit on the neck of Russia, our economy will not rise, we need to go with them finish.
    11. SSR
      SSR 4 March 2014 11: 14
      +1
      Quote: Samaritan
      Everyone understands that it is beneficial for Russia as an exporter, but this benefit will not reach ordinary people, we will again be in ...

      Here it’s for me as a simple person to fuck up on the exchange rate and the fact that iPads and other garbage will go up in price, it’s violet to me.
      There are local difficulties within the company in which I work, it is the payment of loans and the purchase of consumables from New Zealand and Australia, but this is already falling into the background, our plants are ready to make fasteners of the required quality and the plants are ready to grind / make the necessary parts. The fact that French croissants / cookies will rise in price American meat Polish semi-finished products .... Yes, we are. Address their problems.
      1. skeptic
        skeptic 4 March 2014 22: 44
        0
        Quote: SSR
        The fact that French croissants / cookies will rise in price American meat Polish semi-finished products .... Yes, we are. Address their problems.


        Let's hope that we will be relieved of them by our sanctions. Our pastry chefs, of course, will be very "upset" ...
    12. 222222
      222222 4 March 2014 11: 25
      +6
      The year after Ukraine joined the EU.
      Two godfathers: - Oh, and shitty! The wife of the Italian landlord washes .. The son went to marry the German .. There is no money .. there is no grub ..
      - That’s all the m. Teeth are to blame !!! They shouted, Schaub didn’t go to the EU, they knew bastards, we’ll do the opposite ..
    13. 222222
      222222 4 March 2014 14: 43
      0
      GDP live broadcast performancehttp: //www.vesti.ru/videos? vid = onair
    14. cdrt
      cdrt 4 March 2014 16: 56
      +1
      I don’t really understand why write an article on a topic in which you don’t really understand ...
    15. maroder555
      maroder555 4 March 2014 23: 39
      0
      my personal opinion is that all these engines with exchange rates, a scenario that has long been invented, write off the lack of stolen funds on a new type of rat , in the end, again, ordinary people tighten their belts ... rulers-leaders are bad !!! I’ve thrown my accounts long ago from one currency to another, I doubt that they themselves will remain in the loser ...
  2. ZU-23
    ZU-23 4 March 2014 09: 04
    +11
    Yes, this is all a psychological and economic trick, because in fact they have not earned as much money as Russia recently, everything that they scare us can not afford and will result in a huge penny and these sanctions against Russia will also begin to strangle them
  3. indiggo
    indiggo 4 March 2014 09: 07
    +14
    Guys, what difference does it make to us, there’s nowhere to retreat and it’s impossible. There is a war against the Russians. it's time to slash across Washington
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 4 March 2014 09: 15
      -3
      What will you chop?
      1. ZU-23
        ZU-23 4 March 2014 09: 21
        +2
        Yes, you don’t have to chop, but you don’t give yourself an insult, then he himself will be chopped sooner or later.
        1. Governor
          Governor 4 March 2014 10: 31
          0
          Yes, the fact of the matter is that they themselves can not for some reason. They obviously need help ... This, of course, is not our methods (conquest and other wars), but time shows that this head needs to be chopped off with all this rubbish and not covered with a shield ... Still, it’s a pity that the USSR does not bloated these ghouls. A little was not enough, but they should not be given a second chance - they will immediately sting!
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      3. 225chay
        225chay 4 March 2014 10: 04
        +4
        Quote: Greenwood
        What will you chop?

        refusal of the departure of the dollar within the country
        1. brainkiller
          brainkiller 4 March 2014 11: 10
          0
          Quote: 225chay
          refusal of the departure of the dollar within the country

          you cannot do it. learn materiel.
          1. mpa945
            mpa945 4 March 2014 11: 57
            +1
            And why in the country? Or will the government not allow it? Do not buy and FSE!
            1. brainkiller
              brainkiller 4 March 2014 15: 42
              0
              Well, let’s say many businessmen just need to keep accounts in Russian and world currencies, limit family households in purchasing a dollar — cut their rights. Here only personal consciousness of each and faith can serve as a factor strengthening the position of the ruble. Although there is an interesting point, in Russia there was still a lack of liquidity and it is barely enough to ensure the current turnover (a high refinancing rate contributes to this, by the way), so even if people run in a panic to buy a dollar, this will not affect significantly his rate. And do not forget that in the Russian Federation there are few savings in people, but not enough ruble debts =) This is normal.
      4. jjj
        jjj 4 March 2014 12: 04
        +2
        Quote: Greenwood
        What will you chop?

        So, with frost and snow, they chopped along the east coast
      5. Roman555
        Roman555 4 March 2014 15: 15
        0
        With a sickle, you can chop on I .... m or with a hammer in the same place.
    2. Eugeniy_369k
      Eugeniy_369k 4 March 2014 11: 34
      +1
      Quote: indiggo
      Guys, what difference does it make to us, there’s nowhere to retreat and it’s impossible. There is a war against the Russians. it's time to slash across Washington

      Do you even think that write fool fool fool
      it's time to slash across Washington
      ride and chop the flag in your hands.
  4. Altona
    Altona 4 March 2014 09: 08
    +10
    The fall of the ruble was caused primarily by the Government’s policy of steering the economy, taken by social obligations ... Ukraine is just an excuse ... 2 days of the undeclared war cost us $ 72 billion ... 10 to support the exchange rate and 62 to lose capitalization, subsidence stock price ... In principle, this is not a catastrophe, our buyers bought the shares, they were thrown off by foreigners ... You can also sincerely regret collectors of candy wrappers, next month quarterly taxes will have to be paid and rubles will be needed ...
    1. makarov
      makarov 4 March 2014 09: 22
      -8
      Only 2 days, and such losses. For the organization of the Olympics in Sochi, for comparison, it took $ 50 billion. Here is just 2 days for you. And if it goes on like this, the whole world will be clogged with a "dove of peace".
      1. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 4 March 2014 10: 03
        +5
        Hehe, don’t expect that the cheaper shares were bought mainly by Russian buyers from foreigners who were buying them off cheaply - thus, even more of the Russian industry was in Russian hands - one way or another, dependence on foreigners, often confusing business and politics, decreased. As for the exchange rate, he has recently been fluctuating like a drunken port whore on ice — he has fallen and will rise.
        1. jjj
          jjj 4 March 2014 12: 08
          +2
          Quote: zeleznijdorojnik
          buyers from foreigners who sold them cheaply

          That's what Buffett said that the Ukrainian crisis is the best time to buy shares from fools
      2. Alekseev
        Alekseev 4 March 2014 10: 04
        +2
        Quote: makarov
        Only 2 days, and such losses.

        One d ... to wrote and banderlog balm for the soul!
        What are the losses, the image of speculators? Prestige in the USA? Unlike banderlogs, we do not trust them.
        Some 50 billion in Sochi. request I read, you know, on the site. Anti-Russian.request
        Experiencing, as if he had been taken. wink
        And for the spiteful critics, I recall that the default of 98 gave, with all the negativity, a tremendous impetus to the development of industrial production, especially import substitution. yes Let worried "investors" buy (where do they "invest"? Only direct investments bring benefit, everything else is from the evil one) green papers on the stock exchange in three ways. If gay Europeans like US politics so much, let them turn off trade and go to hell, there is Asia, where you can work for rubles and yuan.
        But Europeans are not such fools, like banderlogs, they scratch their turnips, you can’t just dump 500 billion of goods turnover.
        And the filthy portraits of Bandera on the Maidan were not in vain ...
      3. ovgorskiy
        ovgorskiy 4 March 2014 10: 21
        +3
        Makarov, why are you so worried about Russia. You have already built a flourishing democracy, strengthened the hryvnia, raised the industry. Live and enjoy.
      4. densh
        densh 4 March 2014 12: 03
        +1
        Quote: makarov
        Only 2 days, and such losses. For the organization of the Olympics in Sochi, for comparison, it took $ 50 billion. Here is just 2 days for you. And if it goes on like this, the whole world will be clogged with a "dove of peace".

        The same thing today, almost one-on-one, was broadcast by both RBC (CNN) and the Washington RTVI. It’s a direct tendency, as it were, such a sudden concern for the Russians that I really want to cry with emotion. Interesting, why would it suddenly concern them? what
      5. skeptic
        skeptic 4 March 2014 22: 52
        0
        Quote: makarov
        And if it goes on like this, the whole world will be clogged with a "dove of peace".


        ET about Ukraine, in the sense of?
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 4 March 2014 09: 23
      +7
      All these stocks and exchanges are pure speculation. Today they fell, tomorrow they rose.
    4. alicante11
      alicante11 4 March 2014 09: 28
      +3
      Why do you think that something is "lost"? Well, let's say, to support the course - we can say that "lost", allocated from the budget. And who “lost” from the fall in capitalization? Will someone from the oligarchs be deleted from the “forbes” list? I remember the reasoning that a decrease in capitalization means that lenders can demand repayment of loans, since the “collateral” has dropped in value, etc. ... our oligarchs will lose their enterprises. But if there is such a booze, then they can send these "creditors", if you are lawless, then we will be lawless ...
      1. jjj
        jjj 4 March 2014 12: 11
        0
        Quote: alicante11
        then these "creditors" can be sent

        There is such a concept "No return to me". So when issuing shares, issuers use this concept in full. Simply put: the shares are sold, they will not be returned, buyers sort it out among themselves
    5. Name
      Name 4 March 2014 09: 35
      0
      Quote: Altona
      next month quarterly taxes will have to be paid and rubles will be needed.

      And in the next quarter (after March 30!) the most interesting situation will be ... a. hi
    6. Alekseev
      Alekseev 4 March 2014 09: 50
      +3
      Quote: Altona
      62 on the loss of capitalization, subsidence of the stock price ..

      Explain what "62 on a loss of capitalization" means. Is that money? Can they be taken from stock speculators and invested somewhere?
      Shares fell in price secondary market.
      Ah ah! belay Soap bubbles must be blown away.
      1. Altona
        Altona 4 March 2014 11: 44
        +1
        Quote: Alekseev
        Explain what "62 on a loss of capitalization" means. Is that money? Can they be taken from stock speculators and invested somewhere?

        ---------------------
        Do you need it? Are you a stockbroker or broker? Roughly speaking, in the morning the exchange had an aggregate block of shares for 100 rubles of quoted value, sold them for 60 rubles ... Loss of capitalization-40 rubles ... That's all arithmetic ... You won’t be able to take this money, this difference is margin exchange players ... Tomorrow they will throw off these shares for 80 rubles, earn 40 on the difference in rates ...
        1. Alekseev
          Alekseev 4 March 2014 12: 27
          +2
          Quote: Altona
          Roughly speaking, in the morning the exchange had an aggregate stake in 100 rubles of quoted value, sold them for 60 rubles ..
          etc.
          Yes, it knows any transdyuk ...
          They asked for clarification not at all what. laughing
          The situation on the stock exchange does not affect the real economy so much.
          This is just a rating for her. High stock price - you can get more occupy, issue additional issue, inflate a paper money bubble.
          But you must take less less dependence. It is necessary to curtail globalization in relation to Russia to reasonable limits. Take money out of US treasury obligations and give "long" loans to high-tech industries.
          I already wrote that Gazprom shares fell, and gas has risen in price yes
          There will be a high price for it and the stock will return to the previous level., Moreover, quickly enough.
          The main thing is the price of gas, not stocks.
          1. Altona
            Altona 4 March 2014 13: 40
            +1
            Quote: Alekseev
            Quote: Altona
            Roughly speaking, in the morning the exchange had an aggregate stake in 100 rubles of quoted value, sold them for 60 rubles ..
            etc.
            Yes, it knows any transdyuk ...
            They asked for clarification not at all what. laughing
            The situation on the stock exchange does not affect the real economy so much.
            This is just a rating for her. High stock price - you can get more occupy, issue additional issue, inflate a paper money bubble.
            But you must take less less dependence. It is necessary to curtail globalization in relation to Russia to reasonable limits. Take money out of US treasury obligations and give "long" loans to high-tech industries.
            I already wrote that Gazprom shares fell, and gas has risen in price yes
            There will be a high price for it and the stock will return to the previous level., Moreover, quickly enough.
            The main thing is the price of gas, not stocks.

            -----------------------------
            And what's the point of asking then? There is no real economy on the exchange, there is such a virtual phantom that somehow reflects some economic meanings ... In addition, stock prices and exchange indices have various regulators in the form of insurance and reservation ...
            As for borrowing and long money ... They borrow for projects, long money does not give quick returns, and no one has canceled human greed ... I will not discuss this topic, when they borrow something and put it somewhere, so that less the risk was during storage ... The exchange is generally a tool for quick money, long money is a bank ...
    7. Fin
      Fin 4 March 2014 11: 01
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      62 on the loss of capitalization, subsidence of the stock price ..

      Now recount
      Quotes on the Russian stock market in the first minutes of trading rose sharply, offsetting almost half of the collapse that occurred on March 3. The MICEX index rose 4,25 percent to 1344 points, while the main RTS index rose 4,4 percent to 1165 points. Lenta.ru

      Speculators do not sleep and wait for some event.
      The main calm, everything will settle down. Of course not without loss.
  5. Renat
    Renat 4 March 2014 09: 09
    +11
    Ordinary revenge by the intractable Russian. What are they able to tighten the nuts financially? Here is another minus of the globalization of the economy and the attachment of the whole world to one currency.
  6. j iz sibiri
    j iz sibiri 4 March 2014 09: 09
    +3
    soon benders will blow up the gas pipeline for a week so to speak and everything will get stronger
    1. makarov
      makarov 4 March 2014 09: 32
      +8
      I don’t understand one thing, why the residents of the city of Bender from Transnistria periodically insult ??? What do they have to do with it?
      The person involved is the name of Bandera.
      1. j iz sibiri
        j iz sibiri 4 March 2014 09: 35
        +2
        no one offends you sho
      2. kimanas
        kimanas 4 March 2014 09: 46
        +3
        Sorry, I forgot, and BANDERIVTS even sounds more accurate
      3. aunt
        aunt 4 March 2014 10: 23
        +2
        Bender and Tiraspol are wonderful cities, worked as a student at the Tiraspol Canning Factory, at the container base (along with the convicts), in the fields ..
        Vin de kvass or vin de masses were bought from old women. A grandmother will come out, we will give her 10 rubles and a bottle in a wicker for 10 liters. She goes down. Ask grandmother wine without dust for the fortress? He takes a glass of pours -clap. Quality Control Department. Saperavi beer mug was worth 35 kopecks on the market. Those times were .. And Negru de Purcari, this is a dream .. today it is already on sale (the entire series of Rose de Purcari, etc.)
        1. lelikas
          lelikas 4 March 2014 10: 56
          +1
          Quote: aunt
          And Negru de Purcari, this is a dream ..

          This is not a dream - this is the president of the USA - he is very tearing his fart today!
        2. Altona
          Altona 4 March 2014 11: 46
          +1
          Quote: aunt
          Bender and Tiraspol are wonderful cities, worked as a student at the Tiraspol Canning Factory, at the container base (along with the convicts), in the fields ..

          ------------------------
          In the army, Flurash smoked, always imported into a chip ... Good cigarettes ...
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      4. bes513
        bes513 4 March 2014 10: 33
        0
        Thanks, very good clarification.
      5. Alekseev
        Alekseev 4 March 2014 10: 39
        +1
        Quote: makarov
        why periodically insult the residents of the city of Bender

        Quote: makarov
        The person involved is the name of Bandera.

        Do not grieve too much for the "defendant". A clever one will understand. wink
        By the way, the ruble fell against the dollar, and the price of gas soared more than 10% among the "big" peacekeepers on the London Stock Exchange ... request So enough rubles.
        They reduced it, but then it increased, as it should be.
        And instead of foolishly rejoicing at the fall of the Russian currency, it is better to grieve about the Ukrainian currency and recall the losses to industry from the "squatting brothels" on the Maidan.
        1. densh
          densh 4 March 2014 12: 18
          +1
          Quote: Alekseev
          By the way, the ruble fell against the dollar, and the price of gas soared more than 10% among the "big" peacekeepers on the London Stock Exchange ...

          Today, global oil prices have risen sharply, and gold prices for metals in general. The price of wheat and other cereals has increased. And this is beneficial to Russia.
          And Britain has about the same problem with Gibraltar and the Falkland Islands as the Russian Federation with Crimea. Ahead of the referendum on independence in Scotland ... hi
          1. makarov
            makarov 4 March 2014 17: 02
            0
            Yeah, I got lucky on the wheat bill today. I went to a friend to a farmer, and he stocked 16 bags, t.s. probably for orphans, for poultry and hryundiks until the fall, and I don’t give a damn about international prices, I’m treated for free and from the heart.
      6. brainkiller
        brainkiller 4 March 2014 11: 13
        0
        Quote: makarov
        The person involved is the name of Bandera.
        Yeah, Ostap Bandera ... Recently, he was quoted by a man of letters, I wept over with emotion.
  7. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 4 March 2014 09: 10
    +3
    Exchange players profit from fluctuations in exchange rates. As the saying goes: "This is clear even to a hedgehog!" Objectively, the undervaluation of its currency is beneficial to the owner of the currency, i.e. The Central Bank of the Russian Federation. This practically does not apply to ordinary citizens. There will be fewer imported goods - direct support from domestic producers. An exception is a trip abroad. Well, you have to be patient. What to do - then.
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 4 March 2014 09: 36
      +2
      Yes, how to say. I have a confectionery industry. A year and a half did not raise selling prices. He kept them even when imported ingredients, respectively, the euro rose. But now sugar from our beets is getting more expensive every day. I will have to raise it, the first time there will be a decline in sales.
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    2. Hon
      Hon 4 March 2014 11: 03
      +2
      And what did the default of 98 lead to? Domestic manufacturers received support and decreased the number of imports? The Central Bank has already raised the refinancing rate, and this, as Eric Cartman says, is a kick in the balls for our producer.
      1. brainkiller
        brainkiller 4 March 2014 11: 15
        +1
        Quote: Hon
        The Central Bank has already raised the refinancing rate, and this, as Eric Cartman says, is a kick in the balls for our producer.

        You will be surprised, but this is a really effective measure in the battle for an acceptable level of inflation.
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        2. Hon
          Hon 4 March 2014 11: 36
          +2
          Quote: brainkiller
          You will be surprised, but this is a really effective measure in the battle for an acceptable level of inflation.

          Inflation, yes, but for the manufacturer, this means that all hopes for the most minimal investment in the manufacturing sector of the economy completely disappear, and this, in turn, means further stagnation of production, and even a deepening decline in production with all the ensuing consequences. That is, a narrowing of the tax base, a reduction in taxes, a decrease in the expenditure side of the budget, respectively, a decrease in the already minimal support for science, education, culture, healthcare, the social sphere and, ultimately, a drop in the standard of living of the majority of Russian citizens. At the same time, inflation will remain at a high level since the ruble has already fallen in price! As for citizens, in the early stages their deposits in banks may even increase. But later they will feel all the consequences of the economic crisis.
          1. brainkiller
            brainkiller 4 March 2014 15: 49
            0
            This restraining KDP has been in Russia for several years, no one has died yet. Understand correctly. You all say the right thing, but in a country with a high level of shadow economy, infusing money at a small percentage can be disastrous. Wait - passions subside, put things in order with the banks (what we see with the revocation of licenses for a reason) and make a normal bet. In addition, in Russia there are still many opportunities for investing with a high discounted value.
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  8. Ilja 22
    Ilja 22 4 March 2014 09: 12
    0
    I agree, frankly, the war, which lasts for a century, we were not in a favorable situation, whether the national economy is dependent on imported goods, why produce something ourselves, when you can buy for three expensive, and wash more babos, it’s better to sell gas and oil, it’s also easier ..
  9. Name
    Name 4 March 2014 09: 13
    +7
    It is difficult to call the fall of the ruble against the dollar and the euro as artificially created, given the current state of the economy in the United States and Europe, even the average citizen understands that this is speculation at a very high level.
  10. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 4 March 2014 09: 16
    +6
    from the Don.
    We will buy our goods, not foreign1
  11. Bort radist
    Bort radist 4 March 2014 09: 17
    +4
    I completely agree - the games of the rich, and we have a few thousand, what to invest, what to dig in the field of fools.
  12. Kazakh
    Kazakh 4 March 2014 09: 18
    +9
    And in Kazakhstan, tenge fell why? The troops also decided to enter Ukraine only about this, no one knew only the dollar? laughing And in Greece, the default occurred because the United States knew that the Greeks would support the Russians. laughing All these analysts will achieve with their analyzes and lies that nobody will read newspapers at all
    1. densh
      densh 4 March 2014 12: 25
      +3
      Quote: Kazakh
      And in Greece, a default occurred

      The funny thing is that one of these days, Greece initiated the convening of a European conference to provide financial assistance to Ukraine. Stunned !!!
  13. stayer
    stayer 4 March 2014 09: 19
    +11
    China has not yet spoken. When he asks for the debt to be repaid in gold, there will be nothing left of the lousy dollar. And this all goes ...
  14. bedniyyorik
    bedniyyorik 4 March 2014 09: 20
    +3
    Does someone buy a lot for dollars and euros?
    1. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 4 March 2014 10: 09
      +1
      You yourself indirectly buy Russian bread in a Russian store, only wheat was purchased at an auction for a dollar, fertilizers too, the price of diesel fuel is tied to the dollar, as well as cubic meters of gas for a bread oven. From such garbage.
    2. Roman555
      Roman555 4 March 2014 15: 24
      0
      In my opinion, all imports are tied to the dollar or the euro. And given our 50 percent food dependence, tomorrow’s overseas and often GMO edalny will rise in price. Maybe this will give a competitive chance to our agricultural producers?
  15. parusnik
    parusnik 4 March 2014 09: 20
    +1
    The ruble does not fall, slips .. wink
  16. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 4 March 2014 09: 21
    +4
    A man tears his hair because a ticket to the Maldives, you see, has risen in price.

    And all the time I rest on our Black Sea. And right now, I’m thinking "why not go to the Crimea this summer?"
  17. j iz sibiri
    j iz sibiri 4 March 2014 09: 31
    +4
    I’ve been relaxing in Siberia all my life and I’m fine

    and then I began to wonder if I should go to Crimea
    1. densh
      densh 4 March 2014 12: 29
      +1
      Quote: j iz sibiri
      and then I began to wonder if I should go to Crimea

      Everyone in the new Ukrainian government agrees with Navalny's friends that Putin's main task is to disrupt the holiday season in Crimea and drive tourists to Sochi at gunpoint in order to recapture "the money spent on the Olympics.
      UKRAINIAN TRUTH
      Yatsenyuk: Russia wants to disrupt the holiday season in Crimea for Sochi

      The excessive and inadequate presence of the Russian military in Crimea, the Russian leadership undermines the peninsula's reputation as one of the best resorts.
      The Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk said this at the beginning of the government meeting.
      He recalled that Russia spent $ 48 billion on the Olympics in Sochi, and now hotels and other objects of the created infrastructure are empty there.
      "The intention of Russia is to deprive Crimeans of jobs, salaries, holidaymakers, as it was in Abkhazia, when this territory was empty for 6 years, to undermine the reputation of Crimea, to transfer the flow of tourists to Sochi," the Prime Minister said.
      laughing wassat fool
      1. zeleznijdorojnik
        zeleznijdorojnik 4 March 2014 16: 45
        0
        The narrow-minded person had some narrow, small-scale thoughts, I would say — not thoughts — thoughts — where I wouldn’t especially cut down the money and work without grandmothers — I primarily remembered the spa guests, and not about heavy industry and energy. However, I feel like not seeing him the income from the Crimea in the summer, as his own ears in any situation.
  18. samoletil18
    samoletil18 4 March 2014 09: 32
    +6
    This is not a disaster. The depreciation of the currency makes the domestic economy more competitive. China, for example, artificially lowers the renminbi. Sale of stocks on stock exchanges is ordinary speculation.
    When everything settles down, the Central Bank will begin to redeem the currency at a lower rate, which will increase foreign exchange reserves. Domestic companies have the opportunity to repurchase their shares from speculative assets. With a smart approach for Russia, this situation is even beneficial. Well, to completely improve the situation, it is necessary to withdraw all assets from the USA and the EU, now a convenient pretext has been created - the danger of their loss due to unjustified sanctions. Let them have problems there and the crisis is growing, we cannot take so much risk.
  19. igor-pchelkin
    igor-pchelkin 4 March 2014 09: 35
    +16
    Friends, I'm a little man. I have neither dollars nor euros. But I am a happy person, because I have enough rubles that I have for that life and those things that I want to live with. With such a worldview, rubles never run out from me.
  20. vsdvs
    vsdvs 4 March 2014 09: 37
    +3
    Experts from different groups say that there are no objective reasons for such a fall. The ruble "lowers" our government, and, first of all, the Ministry of Finance. Siluyanov openly announced that the ruble should be lowered and for this the Ministry of Finance was buying up foreign currency. Apparently our monopolists pay extra for him. And the central bank is left only in the steepest peaks to throw reserves on sale in order to contain the fall. Well, speculators of different levels also warm their hands.
    1. 528Obrp
      528Obrp 4 March 2014 09: 43
      +4
      Quote: vsdvs
      Experts from different groups say that there are no objective reasons for such a fall. The ruble "lowers" our government

      100% !!! Oil is growing (at Ukrainian events it reached 2% per session) gold is growing, trade surplus and .... low ruble?
      1. brainkiller
        brainkiller 4 March 2014 11: 17
        0
        Quote: 528Obrp
        100% !!! Oil is growing (at Ukrainian events it reached 2% per session) gold is growing, trade surplus and .... low ruble?

        Well, for example, aluminum falls
  21. Stinger
    Stinger 4 March 2014 09: 39
    +2
    Yes, this whole "market" economy is built on how to cash in on the other. And the most successful is a clever and shameless speculator. It is not for nothing that these "successful" people are shot during the war for undermining the economy.
    1. Uhe
      Uhe 5 March 2014 03: 39
      0
      And in this case, the speculator is the state itself;).
  22. DAGESTAN333
    DAGESTAN333 4 March 2014 09: 41
    +14
    All they can do is depreciate the ruble by 10-20 percent, and then not for long. The main calculation of the enemy - a psychological blow - they need us to panic and begin to lose ruble savings, then, our state will have a little taut.

    If we show courage and keep our savings in rubles, then we will lose only 10-20%. If we are greedy now and lose rubles, then in the end (in the short term), we will lose as much as the enemy needs, and the enemy will not regret us ... And if we now bear these hardships, then in the end, we will decide how much should our ruble cost. The choice is ours.
    1. Mr. Gambu4aS
      Mr. Gambu4aS 4 March 2014 10: 39
      +2
      That's right, but it’s more likely that the choice is not for ordinary people, the savings of even a few million people will not affect the general situation, the question is what our thick bags will do, I think they were already told to sit quietly upstairs and not twitch!
    2. Uhe
      Uhe 5 March 2014 03: 38
      0
      Which opponent? The Central Bank and the government began to bring down the ruble! This is their intentional action. It is connected with the fact that this is the last way to somehow keep the economy from a complete fall, which will happen anyway, this only postpones the fall. And after a year they introduce a free course. At the same time, the government itself buys currency, and it transfers it to foreign accounts (in the USA, apparently), that is, where the Stab is stored. fund. This is the second reason - the purchase of currency by the government in large quantities. This is a deliberate action of the government and the Central Bank.

      Unfortunately, the collapse was not the fault of some enemy, but the authorities decided so.
  23. Alex66
    Alex66 4 March 2014 09: 45
    +5
    But can one take advantage of the situation, sell expensive dollars and build a couple of factories for the proceeds of rubles. And we will get rid of dollars and give work for the people with modern and effective jobs.
    1. stayer
      stayer 4 March 2014 13: 22
      +1
      Quote: Alex66
      and build a couple of factories on the proceeds of rubles. And we will get rid of dollars and give work for the people with modern and efficient jobs.

      Yeah, 150.000 refugees need to be provided with work. People with empty hands go to the Maidan. We do not need Maidan.
      1. Roman555
        Roman555 4 March 2014 15: 28
        +1
        And let's drive out 10 unregistered migrant workers and give work to 000 refugees.
        1. Uhe
          Uhe 5 March 2014 03: 34
          0
          One of the reasons for the transfer of enterprises from Europe and America is the deliberate destruction of unity and the weakening of the working class, its fragmentation with the subsequent destruction. In Russia, the same thing happens. Why do they need another 150 thousand. Slavs who do not want to be slaves, but unite with those who live here? Do not even dream. Jamshujas will be imported, Russians will be destroyed, as long as power belongs to the capitalists.
  24. INVESTOR
    INVESTOR 4 March 2014 09: 47
    0
    The Russian market fell by 12% .. Time to buy !!!!!!!!
    1. STALGRAD76
      STALGRAD76 4 March 2014 10: 36
      +1
      You can immediately see a person who is familiar with volatility and other crap, and when I attended exchange trading courses, educators economists from universities assured that politics did not affect the market in "civilized" countries, only to some insignificant degree, the conclusion is that almost all certified economists are people those who do not understand the laws of managing markets and capital, (I openly laugh (this is why I often do not mercy) at the young "promising" ones, especially if they are from Moscow, managers who harass a bunch of paper and a color cartridge and an hour in front of an interactive whiteboard, graphic slides are all business , in the end it turns out that in order for the workshop as a separate unit to make a profit, it is necessary to take 5 office workers and build a room for them in the workshop ????) but this silly puppy was sent from Moscow (which means he is creative, smart, with the highest education, and some kind of big-shot son, now tell yourself which of the following characteristics are most important in real life for evaluating his work s ??? Well, this is a deviation from the topic, on the topic of increasing the value of currencies - not any hysteria, everything is temporary, a lot of foreign money works in Russia in the real sector, entrepreneurs will not let the economy fall ...
      1. jjj
        jjj 4 March 2014 12: 20
        0
        Quote: STALGRAD76
        a lot of foreign money works in Russia in the real sector

        These direct investments are constantly growing, nobody is trying to withdraw them
      2. Uhe
        Uhe 5 March 2014 03: 32
        0
        It was not for nothing that Marx, towards the end of his life, regretted that he did not begin his work with the book "The State". The economy is secondary in relation to the political structure of the country. Extremely important, but secondary.

        No need to rely on some entrepreneurs, because for the sake of profit the capitalist will sell his mother. Enough to pray for the golden calf. The economy should be expedient, that is, serve humanity, not Capital.
  25. Known who
    Known who 4 March 2014 09: 48
    0
    I propose to abandon the dollar as a reserve currency and switch to bitcoin or any other reserve currency, in the flesh before creating a new one.
    Each fall of the ruble in the long term turns into a boom in the economy and an increase in production. In Japan, the high yen is a national tragedy.
    The West needs us much more than they need us. They do not want to be friends with us - we will be friends with China, Iran, Malaysia - then they really can sprinkle their heads with ash.
    1. Manager
      Manager 4 March 2014 10: 21
      +1
      Quote: It is known who
      Each fall of the ruble in the long term turns into a boom in the economy and an increase in production.


      In fact, we sell oil and gas in dollars. A strong ruble is not profitable for us anyway.
      1. Uhe
        Uhe 5 March 2014 03: 28
        +1
        If you personally sell oil, then it is. But the fuel inside the country directly depends on the exchange rate, so for us, ordinary citizens, a strong rate is beneficial.

        In general, it is surprising how quickly people began to think from a capitalist perspective. Any weakening of money is theft, because you did the work at one cost, and when you received your salary at the end of the month, you can already buy less on these pieces of paper — the capitalists simply robbed you, the laborer. Under socialism, this simply cannot be, then no one cares about the exchange rate of some bullshit currency. Now it’s not so. We are all dependent on the Fed, and the one guilty of this is who, according to the Constitution, must act differently, protecting his own citizens.
  26. Gagarin
    Gagarin 4 March 2014 09: 49
    +2
    China already said!
    http://www.politonline.ru/rssArticle/20756406.html
    Quote: stayer
    China has not yet spoken.
  27. Capyar 48315
    Capyar 48315 4 March 2014 09: 56
    +1
    DISCUSS YOURSELF - AND WHO LOSES FROM A FALLING COURSE? THE POOR EVERYTHING IS EQUAL FOR THE GOALS ARE NOT OR MINIMUM, THEY ARE EXTREMELY AT THE PRICES OF MAJOR GOODS AND THOSE ARE NOT DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO THE COURSE, ESPECIALLY DOMESTIC // NOT SOFT, NOT SO SOON. -TH /// DOMESTIC MANUFACTURER ONLY IN THE WINNING - HIS PRODUCTS BECOME COMPETITIVE // ALL THIS IS FINALLY DILETTING DISCUSSIONS, BUT YEARS ONE YEAR BACK, I ALREADY SEE A LOT OF PERFORMANCE AND I HAVE BATTERS AND I HAVE BATTERS
    1. Antiquetoy
      Antiquetoy 4 March 2014 10: 52
      +1
      Quote: KapYar 48315
      THEY ARE FIRMED WITH PRICES FOR MAJOR GOODS AND THOSE ARE NOT DIRECTLY CONNECTED WITH THE COURSE, ESPECIALLY DOMESTIC


      But their prices will rise, and salaries will not be in time for their growth, this is a fact.
    2. Uhe
      Uhe 5 March 2014 03: 25
      +1
      Goods are directly linked to the exchange rate. Directly, therefore, it will affect everyone, even the beggar himself. But the richest - no, because this is the structure of the current government. In 98 there was still a huge reserve, inherited from the USSR. Now this backlog has ended, there are empty pockets, the lack of industry, science and technology.

      There is no benefit from the robbery of their own citizens, except for the benefits obtained by thieves. The state in this case behaves like a thief. Pray further on this citizen.
  28. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 4 March 2014 10: 03
    +1
    Now the currency is not guaranteed. Therefore, those units, the economies of states that have a complete closed cycle, feel good: At the moment, this is the European Union, the United States. China, Korea, Japan are very close to them, but they have problems with resources. The course of other countries is set by hegemons. For the ruble now you can’t buy equipment, cars, many food products. What are the outputs of the ruble (In my opinion):
    1. (Fantastic) Russia makes a quantum leap in production and creates a full production cycle for all goods.
    2. (Volitional) The ruble becomes gold (platinum, oil, uranium ...). Especially the gain from this will be felt after the decline of the ruble. Because guaranteed currencies will be bought up, and not only with us.
  29. INVESTOR
    INVESTOR 4 March 2014 10: 03
    +4
    There was already a discussion in the VO about the weakening of the ruble, while I just now claimed that it was beneficial for our commodity producers since import is getting more expensive, this measure is designed to stimulate our manufacturers and exporters. It’s another matter that the share of imports of hard-to-replace and vitally important ones, such as medicines, meat, electronics, is certainly large in Russia and our citizens will feel it, but on the whole, this is a positive effect for the economy, but it cannot go on for so long. there are inflationary risks. Last time, people with a poor understanding of the economy blamed me for this opinion.
    1. Bezarius
      Bezarius 4 March 2014 10: 45
      +1
      All as you said, you yourself wanted to write about it, but you got ahead of me.

      I would also like to remind Btv about China, which constantly underestimates the value of its currency. I even remember the "world community" complaining that China is doing bad things with its currency. We simply did the same. Now it is profitable to invest in our economy, but not to import goods.
    2. Altona
      Altona 4 March 2014 14: 02
      +2
      Quote: INVESTOR
      There was already a discussion in the VO about the weakening of the ruble, while I just now claimed that it was beneficial for our commodity producers since import rises in price

      -------------------------
      If the weakening is moderate, a strong weakening increases costs, imposes an inflation factor ... There may be a decent import component in a domestic product ...
      1. Uhe
        Uhe 5 March 2014 03: 21
        0
        It can’t be, but consider that 100% of enterprises. Let us recall at least the computer technology used by accountants;). And all in the same vein.
  30. Nikich
    Nikich 4 March 2014 10: 06
    0
    But you think that the ruble at the moment is not fully supported by gold. After all, all these reserves about which we are told, they are in dollars in the first place and only then in gold.
    1. Uhe
      Uhe 5 March 2014 03: 19
      0
      And lie on western accounts. Tomorrow aunt will press some button by order, and there are no reserves of the Russian Federation;). Thanks must be given to Kudrin's personal friend, the best head of the government of the world, as he called the USA. Not for nothing, apparently, called. At one time, they also called Witte, but for a long time everyone knew what this bastard and thief was.
  31. Bashkaus
    Bashkaus 4 March 2014 10: 18
    +9
    Brothers, Slavs! Why did this dollar surrender to us? I’m like the last $ 200. in 2008, at the beginning of the crisis, I handed it over, and since then I have not held this rubbish in my hands. Let's still rip off the crosses from our chest, and hang the symbol "$" on the chains Ugh for all the sanctions, ugh for the Western foe !!!
    My grandfather was a submariner and defended Sevastopol, I think all these economic sanctions are insignificant compared to what our fathers and grandfathers survived.
    If someone is yapping that import goods will be flying up in price, then buy domestic goods, support your country, and to whom just do your homeland where it is ... not warm, then I’ve gathered the jokes and the geyropa. There are no grandmas, nothing, please contact, I will help, although the salary is not big, a kick in the ass from the plane ...
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    2. Altona
      Altona 4 March 2014 14: 05
      +2
      Quote: Bashkaus
      I like the last 200u.e. in 2008, at the beginning of the crisis, he passed, and since then he has not held this rubbish in his hands.

      ------------------------------
      In 1996, I never needed them again as a means of storage and payment ...
    3. Uhe
      Uhe 5 March 2014 03: 17
      0
      The point is not in these papers themselves, but in the fact that 70% of our food is imported. And many other prices, including fuel, also depend on the currency, including the domestic minuscule that is still produced (I work in production and I know how hard it is to produce anything in the Russian Federation - they strangled me so that it’s time to hang myself; and more to the heap, there are no pure domestic goods - full integration into the world economy has long been done). Therefore, this rise in price will also affect you. And this is an open robbery of the population by "their own" state. The task of the Central Bank and the government is not to allow this, and the president is responsible for all of them. And they deliberately put their hand into your pocket and pull your hard-earned money from there.
  32. Lumumba
    Lumumba 4 March 2014 10: 20
    +1
    At a minimum, it is enough to start for all of our exported goods (for weapons, resources, etc.) to demand payment not in dollars or euros, but in rubles. And then it will be possible at least to master Siberia with robots, and to build factories in batches.
  33. Isk1984
    Isk1984 4 March 2014 10: 35
    0
    All this is certainly fine, but I’ll say it anyway. We don’t have a coherent economic policy and we won’t have it, our ruble is about Western puppeteers, like our stock market, tell me all this bullshit .... we are on the drum, maybe on the drum, I’m really offended that our economy depends on the movements of Dow Jones, and so on, but it turns out that our companies, metallurgists (Mechel, Sverstal, MMK), oil companies (Rosneft, Gazprom), take loans in the West on the security of shares, we are ruined by the capitalization of markets, and they they can show us bills in bucks, and it’s growing with us, here’s a vicious circle for you at the household level ... we’re moving on ... a lot of fruits and vegetables, we buy in bucks, which is rushing, and such positions for different groups of goods a lot, in general, for which I’m all, yes, we love the Motherland and so on, and we already have the nats of the West and the USA in the liver, but the reality is that our elite and monopolies are closely connected and controlled from the Washington Nest, we need to form a truly independent economy, and to do something with the Central Bank and gold reserves, which we keep to be in the West, including in US bonds ...
  34. ars_pro
    ars_pro 4 March 2014 10: 40
    +3
    Here is the news that they would give Russian citizenship to former USSR citizens, I wouldn’t rush to accept this, since in Ukraine a huge 5 column has been formed which would tear with pleasure in the Russian Federation in order to destroy it and undermine it, to what am I, normal people they won’t leave their place of residence regardless of danger, because the policy of issuing citizenship and passports should be very selective, my opinion, although he himself at one time wanted to obtain citizenship when he lived in Russia
  35. Nikich
    Nikich 4 March 2014 10: 50
    0
    Quote: Lumumba
    At a minimum, it is enough to start for all of our exported goods (for weapons, resources, etc.) to demand payment not in dollars or euros, but in rubles. And then it will be possible at least to master Siberia with robots, and to build factories in batches.

    I fully support. Only projects need more real
  36. Bred
    Bred 4 March 2014 10: 50
    +2
    Normal, have already grown by 4%.
  37. sergeybulkin
    sergeybulkin 4 March 2014 10: 59
    +1
    And what to worry about, the ruble is falling, it has always been falling, there was no case that how much not be appreciably strengthened. As a result - it will be as usual all over the world it happens - THE RICH WILL BECOME MORE RICHER - and THE POOR MORE POOR, tighten the belt people!
  38. Intensive
    Intensive 4 March 2014 11: 06
    +1
    Of course, I don’t have any reliable data, what reasons could have caused a rather planned fall of the ruble, but it seems to me that this process was caused not by economic, but political reasons. Otherwise, the media would have long had panic among certain circles. And so, the impression is that everyone was ready for this situation.
  39. Galinanp
    Galinanp 4 March 2014 11: 09
    -1
    Here on the site, a certain part of people admire Lukashenko before his frenzy, his firmness, wisdom, directness, integrity, and so on and so forth.
    2014 mouth 09:41
    Minsk. March 4th INTERFAX.RU - Belarus would like to have close relations with the EU, but it is not going to break with Russia, said the Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Republic Vladimir Makei in an interview with BNS, published on the website of the Belarusian Foreign Ministry.
    “We have never said that we would like to become EU members literally tomorrow, although no one can rule out anything in the long term,” Makei said.
    “We have always said that we want to have normal relations with the EU,” he stressed.
    “There is no need to demand from us now that we run headlong into the EU. We want to build trade and economic relations, humanitarian relations, contribute to ensuring European security, and little by little people will feel the EU's attractiveness. The EU must also take care of their image in the eyes of the Belarusian people, "the minister said.
    “Maybe we still need to show what this attraction of the EU is,” he said.
    “This does not mean, again, that we are going to break with Russia, as some countries claim at once. No, we will always have very strong, reliable, strong ties with our eastern neighbor, because we are connected by many ties: economic, human, etc. ", - said the head of the Foreign Ministry. "But at the same time we would like to have very close relations with the EU, but there must be a strategy of relations," he said.
    “We must slightly reconsider our approaches and move away from unfounded accusations against each other, and build a line based on dialogue and constructive interaction. We must clearly define what is more important for Europe and what is more important for Belarus,” Makei said.
    According to him, Minsk understands that it is necessary to solve the existing problems in relations between the European Union and Belarus. "From our side - the demand to lift the sanctions, from the EU - the release of persons, the so-called political prisoners," - said Makei.
    See the original material at http://www.interfax.ru/362493

    This is Yanukovych-2.0 multi-vector. Yesterday Putin had a telephone conversation with Lukashenko and today is Lukashenko’s final reaction to the threat of the Americans to impose a political and economic blockade against Russia."... No, we will always have very strong, reliable, strong ties with our eastern neighbor, because we are connected by many ties: economic, human, etc." So, they say we are just trading with this eastern neighbor, his name has just been memorized, but we have nothing to do with it, this is all he and in general this is an accidental acquaintance, soak him, and we are yours to the friendly family of the "world civilizational community""This does not mean, again, that we are going to break with Russia, as some countries immediately claim." - let's milk this so-called fraternal people. So who is this "great ruler" after that?
    1. Fin
      Fin 4 March 2014 17: 22
      +1
      Quote: GalinaNP
      Here on the site, a certain part of people admire Lukashenko before his frenzy, his firmness, wisdom, directness, integrity, and so on and so forth.

      I read, and what? Normal, constructive and far-sighted Old Man said. Or should he sit and send all tries? For his people, he will not sign a treaty, such as a Ukrainian association.
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    3. Hon
      Hon 4 March 2014 17: 33
      0
      And then dad in general? Theme is not wrong?
  40. ars_pro
    ars_pro 4 March 2014 11: 15
    +2
    I won’t continue much, in the light of events in Ukraine, it’s necessary to wet this junta and the sooner the better, since the Nazi junta is only growing, and the delay in actually dying is like that, you don’t have to drag it! Moreover, PS is officially recognized as a terrorist organization !! ! To water to wet them the sooner the better !!!
  41. Sergg
    Sergg 4 March 2014 11: 16
    +1
    Be reasonable !!!

    There is no tragedy in the fact that the ruble falls, the dollar is a soap bubble, someone decided this bubble will be inflated even more, this is Russia's policy and revenge on the position in Ukraine.

    Now in Russia, representatives of the fifth column, and their Cossacks, will troll this topic, fan another bubble - informational.

    Once again: be prudent !!!
    1. wax
      wax 4 March 2014 15: 18
      +1
      Correctly write, Sergg. Here is a quote from a book by a Swiss banker that I just translated.
      ... with the growth of the property status of the national economy, we have a lot of idle money set in motion by a swollen banking apparatus that manages debts and property. The huge human army is forced to find means of living in this system, wasting its intellect to make even more money out of money by simply moving values ​​from one pocket to another, instead of effectively creating new ones. So one part of humanity manages, playing the labor of another part of it. By raising or lowering prices regardless of production, money becomes the owner of stocks, land, raw materials, works of art, etc., and they are equally exempt from all this if such a path leads to an increase in capital.

      These idle, unsecured money from the US printing press and serve to spread chaos in the world exclusively in the interests of the United States. The whole metamorphosis took place in 1971, when the States abandoned the gold filling of the dollar. Now the States have come to taste - print as much as necessary. They realized how effective paper bribing is. And for Ukraine they will print at least 100 billion bucks. Interestingly, the whole world is fascinated by the wrong hand of a magician and believes that the fall of the dollar will ruin the world economy. Whatever the case, the rejection of the dollar will immediately ruin the US economy. Of course, it will also go to those who have reserves in these pieces of paper.
  42. Support
    Support 4 March 2014 11: 25
    0
    And bills abroad? If they are covered, then there may be a rollback from the Russian Federation ...
  43. Mikuduk
    Mikuduk 4 March 2014 11: 26
    +1
    Moved my post here, maybe someone will give a detailed answer.


    Quote: Mikuduk
    Quote: Santor
    Quote: kohah
    It was possible to deceive Nabiulina, who was considered by the Americans to be completely their own, to the post of the Central Bank. If it is possible to bring down the interest rate, which has already been reduced by it and is 8.25% (that is, Russia has the right to give a consumer loan at least 14% - this is the limit, the same for industry) - the interest is approved by the US Federal Reserve - The Central Bank does not belong to Russia, whatever did you know that mortgage payments, excise taxes, lending to industry, housing and communal services rates will automatically decrease .... For reference, today the rate for the United States is 0.25%, Britain is 0.5%, Japan is 0.1%, Ukraine in August before the events was 6.5% .... So draw your own conclusions. "

    can be explained in more detail, otherwise I honestly weakly think about it :)


    I explain that the money in Sberbank and the country's banks come from the Central Bank ... According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation does not obey the government of the Russian Federation. He reports to the IMF, and in fact the US Federal Reserve, which prints dollars.
    The President of the Russian Federation cannot appoint the head of the Central Bank, he can only submit candidates for consideration by the IMF. Putin pushed Glazyev, and when the Fed hacked him to death, he offered Nabiulin. She, like tens of thousands of other officials, underwent special training in the United States. Therefore, the Fed accepted her candidacy, and US Ambassador McFall congratulated her on her appointment "as the best graduate."

    But after accepting the post, Nabiulin suddenly arranged a personnel shake-up, removing all employees for the staff and establishing a qualification commission, which not all went through. And among the U.S. citizens who did not pass 16, who were formerly consultants and assistants to Zamov ... the Fed is angry, the IMF is threatening, and Nabiulina throws up her hands and refers to the Law of the Russian Federation, where foreign citizens can not hold such positions ... The war is still going on .

    But the Central Bank gives money not just like that, but at a percentage .. This is that loan rate ... Translated into Russian - the central bank allocates money to the Sberbank and other Russian banks in dollar terms for the declared percentage ... That is, if banks even get profit - they should already lend to the population and industry based on the interest rate of the central bank ... That is, to wind up ... My friend, a Lithuanian theater director, bought an apartment under 2 (two) percent of the mortgage in the center of Vilnius ... And I’m such a daughter in the center of Kaliningrad - under 13.25%



    I have sufficiently explained why our prices jump like bad and the ruble is pegged to the dollar?

    Dear, so why can we send troops to Ukraine, but can’t cancel the amendment to the constitution on the status of the Central Bank?
    They will immediately collapse our economy? What is it against them that they hold us so tightly by the balls?
    1. wax
      wax 4 March 2014 15: 36
      +1
      The explanation is incorrect. The paper-based global financial system works like a press, squeezing all the juices from underdeveloped and developing countries. By reducing the percentage to almost zero, developed countries stimulate demand and, thereby, production. If our Central Bank lowers interest below a certain level, the following will happen: loans will go to buy foreign currency and export it, ultimately, abroad. We can have only targeted loans in the interests of the national economy only at low interest rates, best not through private banks, but directly from the Treasury through the Central Bank with phased control of spending. So our high bank interest is not stimulating, but protective. It is possible to break out from the economic dictatorship of developed countries only in Leninist style - having left the WTO and moved on to the monopoly of foreign trade. Unfortunately, this opportunity evaporated with socialism. The maximum reduction in the number of banks is a small correct measure.
  44. olviko
    olviko 4 March 2014 11: 26
    +1
    "Could such a sinking of the national currency be beneficial to someone inside Russia itself?"

    "The ongoing devaluation of the ruble will greatly ease the position of the federal budget. Unlike previous years, in January of this year, it has already formed a large surplus, and by the end of the year, from the weakening of the ruble, it will be able to receive up to 1 trillion rubles in excess of the planned income," says the review prepared HSE.
    1. brainkiller
      brainkiller 4 March 2014 12: 28
      +1
      Quote: olviko
      “The ongoing devaluation of the ruble will greatly ease the position of the federal budget.

      Well, as if a double-edged sword - for example, the burden of external debt will be heavier, since it is not great.
  45. Igarr
    Igarr 4 March 2014 12: 03
    +4
    Hello colleagues.
    Actually, everyone already said without me.
    And to clarify, anyway, is desired.
    The dollar is the international settlement currency. So? So.
    Is it connected with the gold standard? Not? Not.
    Accordingly - it's candy wrappers. And here, say a plant in Detroit, or a shipyard on the east coast of the United States - this is a real facility. Cost, say half a ton of gold.
    Is the ruble an international settlement currency? Not yet? Bye then.
    What about the yuan?
    And where are the main factories for microelectronics of the final cycle, goods, i.e.? Smartphones, computers, etc.
    Damn, in Asian "tigers". Especially in the main tiger cub - China.
    Here we were supposed to - 100 full-bodied "greens". In our opinion, this is 3000 - ours, rubles. (Sometimes they used to be called "wooden". Now I don't hear that).
    Ours, damn it, are so lightweight ... they’ve just been provided with oil, gas, their pig farms, mines, Leningrad and White Sea shipyards, and the Amur aircraft industry. White Sea diamonds, even if there is something DeBeers somersaults. In our territory.
    And so we say - guys .... the ruble is falling, damn it, right now we’ll fly into the pipe. Now our ruble has become half the price than before.
    How much do we have to ... be?
    The most interesting thing is how much they should have remained so much. Exactly 100 solid greens.
    Has the cost of the plant changed? Shipyard cost? Miners began to produce half as much coal? Or gas went - twice as thin?
    But, on the other hand, under this brand we say, not, guys-democrats, current tea. It's expensive for us now to buy tequila from you, we'll get by with moonshine. Or, in the Moscow suburbs, they will catch up with us "liqueur-chassis".
    So who's scared?
    ...
    Shine and beauty ... Central Bank.
    And you can tear your own under the guise. There will be someone who will especially penetrate - into the prime cost, profitability. (That's the way with water consumption - I pay for water supply for 8 cubic meters per month. And for water drainage - 12 cubic meters. Estimate, every month I bring home the extra 4 tons of water where I bring the Schwarzenegger log on my shoulder).
    You can pretend to be a moron on the international stage - oh, oh, burn through .... save.
    And you can say, at the same time, to foreigners - everything, we will not buy anything, expensive. And you do not want to buy gas. Oil. Wood. - do not buy either.
    And all the goodies to us.
    .
    And these - full-fledged "green" ... as they were "full-fledged", with a tungsten filling - will remain.
    1. brainkiller
      brainkiller 4 March 2014 12: 27
      +1
      Quote: Igarr
      (That's how water consumption is - I pay for water supply for 8 cubes per month. And for drainage - 12 cubes.
      oh that's why the Russian Federation is recognized as the most "drinking" country =))
      The most interesting thing is how much they should have remained so much. Exactly 100 solid greens.
      Has the cost of the plant changed? Shipyard cost? Miners began to produce half as much coal? Or gas went - twice as thin?
      you look at it the other way. Here you have three million bucks and let's say the Russian Federation as land. The stronger the buck to the domestic currency of the state, the more you can purchase in the Russian Federation or the less money will be required to open, for example, a small candle factory. =)
    2. Altona
      Altona 4 March 2014 14: 11
      +3
      Quote: Igarr
      (That's how water consumption is - I pay for water supply for 8 cubic meters per month. And for water drainage - 12 cubic meters. Estimate, every month I bring home the extra 4 tons of water,

      --------------------------
      So on the contrary, you need to pay extra ... You solve a problem with water for the planet ... laughing
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    4. Nikich
      Nikich 4 March 2014 15: 44
      0
      Well, suppose we don’t be able to buy. According to some reports, Russia, in terms of food, depends on purchases by 50-60 percent, but what about water ... criminal schemes in the housing and communal services have long been the rule rather than the exception
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  47. Support
    Support 4 March 2014 12: 31
    +1
    Own ya.ts.a. closer to the body .... Can the accounts of our oligarchs influence GDP decisions?
    1. Uhe
      Uhe 5 March 2014 03: 10
      +1
      Does he work with you for us? This is the protege of the oligarchy and sodomites. Look at the environment and at his friends.
  48. 1Andrei
    1Andrei 4 March 2014 12: 34
    +2
    latest news Chairman of the Senate Subcommittee on European Affairs Chris Murphy told reporters earlier that the Senate could impose sanctions against Russia in connection with the situation in Ukraine. This may include, in particular, freezing the assets of Russian state institutions and private investors, as well as visa restrictions for Russian citizens.
    American dollar, archive photo
    © Fotolia / Givaga

    MOSCOW, Mar 4 - RIA News. In the case of the imposition of sanctions by the United States, Russia will be forced to withdraw to other currencies, create its own settlement and payment system, adviser to the President of the Russian Federation Sergei Glazyev said in an interview with RIA Novosti on Tuesday.

    "We will have to go to other currencies, create our own settlement and payment system. We have excellent trade and economic relations with our partners in the East and South, and we will find a way not only to get rid of our financial dependence on the United States, but also to get out of these sanctions with great benefit for themselves, "- said Glazyev.

    RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/economy/20140304/998048715.html#ixzz2uyrEr13v
    1. Hon
      Hon 4 March 2014 12: 58
      +1
      Nothing like that will happen, they have already imposed sanctions after the Georgian war, and everyone was up to the lantern. It's just that now amers need to portray indignation, while in the same Barak gets off with general phrases like "we are concerned." The ruble began to fall in price even before the Ukrainian events, due to a variety of both external and internal factors. Ukraine only added gasoline to the fire.
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    4. Hon
      Hon 4 March 2014 14: 07
      0
      Statements by Vladimir Putin's adviser on regional economic integration, Sergei Glazyev, on financial relations between Russia and the United States are his personal opinion and do not correspond to the Kremlin’s position, a senior official in the presidential administration told RIA Novosti on Tuesday.
      The interlocutor of the agency emphasized that Glazyev apparently expressed his version as an academician, and not as an adviser to the president of Russia.
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  50. KazaK Bo
    KazaK Bo 4 March 2014 12: 40
    +5
    The fact is that the ruble against the euro and the dollar began to fall not yesterday and not even the day before yesterday. The fall began at the time when a new “Maidan” (at least openly) was out of the question.

    That's right! And there is nothing to cover up for the failed financial and economic policy of the Government of the New Kindersurprise MEDVEDEVA! The inability to organize the growth of financial and economic indicators due to the development of production capacities ... attempts to ensure that the budget is replenished with liberal approaches only through privatization ... taxes ... increased tariffs and led us to the brink of not only economic stagnation, but also crisis. As a result, a small group of billionaires grew in wealth (increasing their number) ... impoverishment of the middle strata of society (growth of wealth was replaced by the average salary in the region - this is when 1 person ate 9 pies, and the second only one. But on average together - five each!) ... the unstoppable leap of the CONSUMER INFLATION INDEX (yes, by lowering the prices of the means of production-- ... rolling mills ... multi-color printing equipment and similar equipment ... for production falls and collapses, inflation like normal) ... Someone wrote in the comments that the poor will not suffer. It is they who will suffer first of all ... for prices will soar on consumer goods in the low-price sector ... i.e. where 2-60% of the country's population sell goods and everyday goods (this is due to the dependence on imports for products and everyday goods).
    The way to solve these problems is to drive the politicians of the liberal direction of economic development into three necks ... all the more so since you don’t need to look back at how the West looks at it! And the sooner the government of the best friend of the West - gosp. Medvedev, the better it will be for the country. Remember 1998 ... and how and who brought the country to the collapse of the economy .. and by whom our then default was overcome! It was not thanks to the liberals that we got out of that abyss ... but contrary to them!
    1. Uhe
      Uhe 5 March 2014 03: 03
      -1
      Well, yes, but Medvedev is a spherical horse in a vacuum and has no direct bosses;).

      Putin pursues the same policy consistently. It simply will not work to plunder the Soviet legacy - they have all plundered, approached the edge of the abyss, now they have stepped and started to fall down.