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Vladimir Konstantinov: We will raise the issue of changing the autonomous status of Crimea to the state

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Sevastopol can receive a special status in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea after the expansion of its powers. This was stated by the speaker of the Supreme Council of Crimea, Vladimir Konstantinov. Now Sevastopol is a city of state importance in Ukraine.


Vladimir Konstantinov: We will raise the issue of changing the autonomous status of Crimea to the state


Konstantinov stressed that the decision will be taken by the people of Sevastopol themselves.

“It will be their decision. As it will be perceived in the Crimea, I can assume: the residents of Sevastopol are our friends, ”RIA quotes Konstantinov. News.

Konstantinov also said that the March 30 referendum will raise the issue of changing the status of the Crimea.

“We will raise the issue of changing the autonomous status of Crimea to the state. And on this basis we plan to build relations with the central government on a contractual basis, ”said the Chairman of the Supreme Council of Crimea, Vladimir Konstantinov, at a press conference in Simferopol, Interfax reports.

According to Konstantinov, a working group representing the Crimean authorities is in Moscow, where he is negotiating various aspects of helping the Russian Federation to the peninsula.

“As for help, we appealed to the Russian Federation to ensure law and order, provide us with financial assistance for this difficult period. Such consent is obtained. Now the working group is already in Moscow and is already resolving the technical issues of this problem, ”Interfax quotes him as saying.

The speaker advised Kiev not to try to use force in order to gain control over the Crimea, or some other region resisting this. He noted that such a move would end with the fact that the new authorities would lose the region within Ukraine.

The Supreme Council of Crimea is well aware of the concern of the Crimean Tatar population of the peninsula and is ready to offer its representatives broad powers, said Vladimir Konstantinov.

“We are ready to offer the Crimean Tatars those powers which they never had (before),” ITAR-TASS quotes him.

“No threats today exist neither for the authorities of Crimea, nor for the residents of the autonomous republic. I am authorized to state this. Today we make decisions that completely legalize all power in the republic, ”said Konstantinov.

According to the chairman of the Supreme Council, leaders have been appointed in all the power structures of the Crimea.

“They have been tasked by the Prime Minister to stabilize the situation, reassure citizens, convince all people that there is power in Crimea, and it is authoritative,” he stressed.

The deputy majority in the Crimean parliament will be formed on Sunday before the end of the day, Vladimir Konstantinov said.

“Today at the inter-factional meeting we received agreement and began to form an interfractional majority with the name“ We are Crimeans ”. At the moment this work is underway, and it will be completed by the end of the day, ”the speaker said.

According to him, the parliamentary majority will include more than two thirds of the Crimean parliamentarians.

In addition, Konstantinov said that the decision of the Federation Council to allow the use of Russian troops in the Crimea is a reaction to the actions of the "Nazi gang."

“The situation in the south-east of Ukraine is very tense. People are trying to protect themselves. What this Nazi gang is capable of, we know. I am very sorry that respected politicians in Kiev decided to resolve their issues with the help of this terrible force. The Federation Council cannot remain indifferent to the fate of its compatriots in Ukraine, which is why such a decision was made, ”said Konstantinov at a press conference.

He also advised the Ukrainian authorities "not to engage in war with their own people."
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  1. gfs84
    gfs84 2 March 2014 16: 03
    +13
    15: 58 NATO sees Russia's actions as a threat to Europe

    source http://lenta.ru/
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 2 March 2014 16: 04
      +7
      AND...???? What are they going to do?
      1. abdrah
        abdrah 2 March 2014 16: 06
        +52
        Quote: Riperbahn
        AND...???? What are they going to do?


        - "Katz offers to surrender!"
        1. pulemetchik_39
          pulemetchik_39 2 March 2014 16: 20
          +60
          Apparently, we are attacked by the Lithuanian navy and the Estonian air kite. Latvian tank is also on the alert!
          1. Gennady1973
            Gennady1973 2 March 2014 17: 00
            +8
            pulemetchik_39 agree! someone will not come to the meeting of the eight ... yeah ... take it off! they will not be good for us. we are self-sufficient and able to bury not only seven or eight people who are especially concerned with "our" problems, but EVERYONE, and let them think. ..do they need it ???
            1. from punk
              from punk 2 March 2014 18: 06
              +17
              there will be five Samit-Russia, Belarus, China, India, Kazakhstan
              1. Oleg77
                Oleg77 2 March 2014 19: 17
                0
                + observers from the DPRK, CUBA and GANDURAS! laughing
            2. Oleg77
              Oleg77 2 March 2014 19: 14
              .
              Are you not afraid to die yourself? The funeral guards! am
              1. nnz226
                nnz226 3 March 2014 13: 05
                0
                Is dying to commit suicide? Or will there be NATO "killers"? I really doubt both options! Ukraine is nobody for the West, and there is no way to call her. A buffer state ... There was one such thing in the 20th century, it was even guaranteed to be protected by the "most powerful" England and France. Even on September 3, 1939, war on Germany was declared, so what? To remind the history of the beginning of World War II? How did the Wehrmacht roll the Poles? And where was the "democratic" Europe, the guarantor of Poland's independence?
            3. pulemetchik_39
              pulemetchik_39 2 March 2014 19: 44
              +4
              Everything can be, I hope, ours will be able to play subtly enough so that democratizers do not fit into the rest of Ukraine. Still, no one needs an open war now.
            4. Antinata
              Antinata 2 March 2014 21: 03
              -3
              If you do not stop Putler, the collapse of Russia is inevitable, do not go to the grandmother. Abroad will not help us. The end to this madness and lawlessness must be put by our own people. An alternative is drooling and mooing to go to the slaughterhouse.
            5. Maks-80
              Maks-80 2 March 2014 21: 07
              +2
              I completely agree. 70 years without this eight lived and nothing, China is still not in it and feels great.
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          3. Kizhich
            Kizhich 2 March 2014 17: 41
            +32
            No, it will be something like this! In the light of the announced mobilization !!!!!
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          4. Simon
            Simon 3 March 2014 10: 16
            0
            This raft is probably made of plastic bottles of Riga beer? lol
        2. RUS96
          RUS96 2 March 2014 16: 20
          +32
          We pid .... Ry not interesting. We like women. laughing
        3. domokl
          domokl 2 March 2014 17: 00
          +101
          I, let them throw me in the cons, today I’ll say it not on my own behalf, but on behalf of my friends, colleagues and brothers-in-arms of Crimeans.
          Guys, why do you refuse people after 50 to be included in the lists of self-defense units? I am ready to go out with any young man in a hand to hand. Shoot any exercise from any weapon ...
          men want to be in your ranks! Men can be in your ranks. and will be no worse than student boys.
          I appeal on their behalf - Guys do not refuse the help of even veterans, but professionals! They do not pretend to anything ... They always defended their homeland! This applies not only to veterans of the Special Forces Group, but also for the Special Forces of the Navy and others. They are not ballast They are fighters ... and fighters are always needed. Krymchians, do not reject the help of veterans.
          I express the opinion of my friends. Listen and do not reject help ... Veterans can, want and MUST be in the ranks of the defenders of the Crimea!
          1. Tatarus
            Tatarus 2 March 2014 17: 16
            +26
            Unfortunately, there are more flints among veterans than among young people. Among the veterans, for example, there are no "bloggers", "PR-strategists" and other unisex people
          2. Walk
            Walk 2 March 2014 18: 01
            +27
            From myself I will say that I completely agree. Only I would add the Strategic Missile Forces. At least during my service there were three exercises where the guys from the retraining school of the Airborne Forces were conditional saboteurs, and we tied them all three times. Who knows, the communications center of the missile army is a separate issue. With me now, although I added a belly, my son’s friends sometimes try to fight. So far, unsuccessfully. About fire training and say nothing. Now the army in Russia is ridiculous. Those who still served in that Soviet army will be more prepared.
            1. Nick
              Nick 2 March 2014 21: 29
              +2
              Quote: Walk
              I’ll say from myself that I completely agree. Only I would add the Strategic Missile Forces.

              Quote: Walk
              Those who still served in that Soviet army will be more prepared

              I agree!
          3. Dikson
            Dikson 2 March 2014 18: 11
            +12
            I subscribe to this statement. As a rule, wars are won not by yesterday’s schoolchildren, but by adult men ...
          4. Vasil9
            Vasil9 2 March 2014 19: 03
            +14
            I completely agree with you. Any officer, even without a prefix
            "special" is more organized, more competent, more professional. Yes, he will no longer meet the standard for either cross-country or pull-ups on the bar. But if he has already come, he will not run in a panic.
            For him, honor is more expensive. He does not change the principles of old age
            will not shake at the expense of the "hillock" (he has
            no and never was)
          5. Antinata
            Antinata 2 March 2014 21: 01
            -3
            Are you coming from Russia there?
            Citizens of Ukraine have every right to spit in the face of any Russian - after all, this schizophrenic dwarf has now climbed into the Crimea! And you there too. Lord, you can’t do without victims! Russia is a country affected by leprosy, and the main leper is Putin. ((
            1. Nick
              Nick 2 March 2014 21: 39
              +4
              Quote: Antinata
              Are you coming from Russia there?

              Ukraine and Crimea are part of the Russian world, part of Russia.
              Quote: Antinata
              And you there too. Lord, you can’t do without victims!

              Seven deaths cannot be, one cannot be avoided.
              Quote: Antinata
              Russia is a country affected by leprosy, and the main leper is Putin. ((

              The West is stricken with leprosy, but judging by your comments, it has not yet realized this. The mere decision to allow perverts to start a family and adopt children confirms the craziness and degradation of the West. Your time ends, you decompose in front of your eyes, but until you notice it. ALAS...
          6. Simon
            Simon 3 March 2014 10: 22
            +1
            It is necessary to organize a partisan detachment, all ages are taken into it. I'll go too. drinks soldier
        4. Ari100kraT
          Ari100kraT 2 March 2014 17: 10
          +9
          Quote: abdrah
          - "Katz offers to surrender!"

          In the subject
          About ten ships of the Black Sea Fleet of the Ukrainian Navy left Sevastopol over the past XNUMX hours, but some of them had to come back because of a crashк, a source in the Crimean administration said on Sunday.
        5. avt
          avt 2 March 2014 17: 16
          +6
          Quote: Riperbahn
          AND...???? What are they going to do?

          Quote: abdrah
          - "Katz offers to surrender!"

          This is a serious question, not yet a joke. It is not clear how things are going with units that do not obey orders to disarm. What about the coastal defense brigade and marines in Feodosia?
          1. dustycat
            dustycat 2 March 2014 18: 46
            +3
            Quote: avt
            This is a serious question, not yet a joke. It is not clear how things are going with units that do not obey orders to disarm. What about the coastal defense brigade and marines in Feodosia?

            According to the information voiced by the authorities of Ukarin, there are no diesel fuel reserves on the Crimean peninsula.
            Neither private nor public.
            The agriculture of the peninsula is therefore completely unprepared for spring work.
            The entire stock of diesel fuel of the Navy and Armed Forces of Ukraine on the peninsula is concentrated in the fuel tanks of ships.
            So these units will not "fight" for long.
        6. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 2 March 2014 17: 50
          +6
          What are they going to do?
          In fact, they will introduce "peacekeeping" troops into the regions controlled by the opposition.
          The article did not like the offer to give Crimean Tatars
          “We are ready to offer the Crimean Tatars those powers that they never had (before)”

          Now it’s too early to draw any conclusions. And not in a hurry with joyful emotions.
          P.S. Part of the GRU Chernorechensk brigade, stationed in Togliatti, is rumored to have been transferred to the Crimea. They say that it is they in the pictures in Simferopol.
          1. Eugene
            Eugene 2 March 2014 20: 03
            +5
            In vain you are talking about the Tatars. They are here. Many years. And among them there are quite adequate. Especially young people. A good word is assimilation.
            1. Serg 122
              Serg 122 2 March 2014 23: 34
              +2
              Nobody says anything against the Tatars. This is their land, too, and they have their rights. The same as everyone living there. And no other i.e. some SPECIAL. That's all
          2. Felix200970
            Felix200970 2 March 2014 20: 04
            +4
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Part of the GRU Chernorechensk brigade, stationed in Togliatti, is rumored to have been transferred to the Crimea.

            Dear, we stop spreading rumors and post only verified information. Behind the rumors on the TV. At the moment, there are NO servicemen of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation outside the territory of places of deployment in Crimea!
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 2 March 2014 21: 29
              +3
              Quote: Felix200970
              At the moment, there are NO servicemen of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation outside the territory of places of deployment in Crimea!

              Of course not! And it can’t be! laughing
              P.S. I’m from Togliatti myself, and I’ll tell you a secret (just don’t tell anyone!) - there are none of them in the location. Probably they went into the autonomy, oh, these Tolyatinsky girls, not for nothing Mityaev sang about them. laughing
        7. lelikas
          lelikas 2 March 2014 19: 46
          +10
          That broke -
          1. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 2 March 2014 23: 08
            0
            Quote: lelikas
            That broke -

            Yeah! Oil painting. laughing
      2. gfs84
        gfs84 2 March 2014 16: 07
        +2
        Most interesting, well, if you saw it, then most likely to continue to consider)
      3. Tatarus
        Tatarus 2 March 2014 16: 38
        +2
        Quote: Riperbahn
        AND...???? What are they going to do?


        Kakat will try to further run away.
      4. Free Island
        Free Island 2 March 2014 16: 55
        +6
        they are going to stomp their feet and cry, as in 2008, and then, when Russia khaz closes the haz, as in 2008, they will stop posters and stomp feet too)))
        1. sds555
          sds555 2 March 2014 21: 03
          +7
          News of the hour Commander of the Black Sea Fleet of Ukraine took the oath to Crimea !!!!
          1. sapran
            sapran 2 March 2014 22: 15
            0
            The fish is looking where it’s deeper and the man is where it’s better ... what’s his oath?
      5. sds555
        sds555 2 March 2014 18: 34
        +3
        Today's events
        1. sds555
          sds555 2 March 2014 18: 38
          +1
          ........................
        2. sds555
          sds555 2 March 2014 18: 39
          0
          ....................
          1. sds555
            sds555 2 March 2014 18: 42
            +4
            The movement of Polish troops near the Ukrainian border Read more here http://www.kresy.pl/wydarzenia,wojskowosc?zobacz/przegrupowanie-w-polskiej-armii
            -w-zwiazku-z-kryzysem-na-ukrainie-
        3. kirqiz ssr
          kirqiz ssr 2 March 2014 20: 07
          -1
          I didn’t understand this clip to the special forces, something was shown about the export of weapons or special forces were sent in three letters explain what happened there
          1. sds555
            sds555 2 March 2014 20: 42
            0
            It seems Ukrainians refused to disarm
      6. zzz
        zzz 2 March 2014 18: 34
        +2
        Quote: Riperbahn
        AND...???? What are they going to do?


        "We are not going to turn off anywhere, given that we are on land and are a lighthouse."
      7. Sergius
        Sergius 2 March 2014 18: 51
        0
        Isolate from energy and lose the largest market.
      8. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 2 March 2014 18: 52
        0
        Quote: Riperbahn
        AND...???? What are they going to do?


        Mass Harakiri.
    2. gfs84
      gfs84 2 March 2014 16: 09
      +11
      NATO regarded permission received by Russian President Vladimir Putin from senators to send troops to Ukraine as a threat to peace in all of Europe. About it on Sunday. March 2, Reuters reports referring to the head of the alliance, Anders Fogh Rasmussen.

      According to him, Russia's actions are contrary to UN principles. Rasmussen called on the Russian leadership not to take any action that could provoke an escalation of the conflict. According to him, all parties should immediately take measures to resolve the situation.

      Just a declaration that they cannot oppose anything ...
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        1. sovety
          sovety 2 March 2014 17: 58
          +3
          A better pray.
          The bear stirred angry
      2. Gennady1973
        Gennady1973 2 March 2014 17: 34
        +15
        gfs84. Good day! We, too, in due time and "veto" imposed and wrote resolutions, recalled diplomats ... etc. Serbia, Libya, Syria ... etc. were just demolished ??? "they" (DEMOCRACY CARRIERS) carry out the resolutions and ??? and respect the UN ??? Rasmussen said ... For us the authority ??? I doubt it.
        1. gfs84
          gfs84 2 March 2014 17: 41
          +1
          Good day,! And commented - in the sense that they had to do something and that was what their statement turned out to be and nothing more)))
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      4. sovety
        sovety 2 March 2014 17: 56
        +1
        Something this Race .... en didn’t kick so much to the states, when those without demand in the floor of the world already put their military nose. request
        Call on.
        Will become with us. wassat
      5. Dikson
        Dikson 2 March 2014 18: 28
        +3
        Well, why ... some fuss near the gas pipeline is enough, and then, according to the doctrine of "energy security", NATO members, under the pretext of ensuring this very security of Europe, will be able to enter Ukraine ...
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 2 March 2014 19: 38
          +6
          Quote: Dikson
          and then, according to the doctrine of "energy security", NATO members, under the pretext of ensuring this very security of Europe, will be able to enter Ukraine ...

          And? ... At one time, their ships entered the territorial waters of Georgia, did it help her a lot? Oh ... wrong repeat helped. .fool ... urgently get rid of the corpses of NATO advisers and instructors so that UN representatives do not burn the "peaceful" infusions of the State Department into "democratic" Georgia ...
          1. Dikson
            Dikson 2 March 2014 19: 51
            +3
            Quote: Tersky
            so that UN representatives do not burn the "peaceful" infusions of the State Department into "democratic" Georgia ...


            Please do not compare Saakashvili yapping at Russia with a pipe supplying energy to Europe ... Russian gas is really the energy security of many countries. Especially after the policy of stopping European nuclear power plants after Fukushima. The pretext is very significant for the introduction of troops into the territory controlled by the Maydanovites.
            1. tolancop
              tolancop 2 March 2014 20: 18
              +6
              Pipe guard? Empty? I understand that for Geyropa gas appears from the pipe, but in order for it to appear there it must be pumped into this very pipe. From the bowels. And the bowels in Russia. Or are they hoping that Gazprom will properly execute contracts during the war?
            2. Tersky
              Tersky 2 March 2014 21: 40
              +2
              Quote: Dikson
              Please do not compare Saakashvili yapping at Russia with a pipe supplying energy to Europe ... Russian gas is really the energy security of many countries. Especially after the policy of stopping European nuclear power plants after Fukushima. The pretext is very significant for the introduction of troops into the territory controlled by the Maydanovites.

              Does the name "North" and "South" stream mean anything? And the fact that European countries such as Austria, Hungary, Bulgaria, previously blocking the construction of the South Stream State Enterprise, canceled all the sanctions previously imposed on its implementation. Guess what I mean, or explain in more detail? In more detail, this is the fact that the transit of Russian gas through / z Ukraine orders to live long. Bandera's team is left with an empty pipe, and Europe, as it was, will be with Russian gas. As for the pretexts, there would be oil for the United States, there will be pretexts, but to their great disappointment there is no oil in Ukraine, and Europe is not so stupid as to cut the branch on which it sits, at the slightest movement towards the pipe of European NATO member countries, the gas will instantly disappear in it because it belongs to Russia.
    3. gfs84
      gfs84 2 March 2014 16: 11
      +10
      They have already used their most formidable weapon against us ...)))

      Lithuania decided to recall its ambassador to Russia, Renatas Norkus, for consultations. It is reported by Delfi.lt. The corresponding decision was made on March 2.

      The recall of the diplomat, as Interfax reports with reference to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the republic, is associated with "Russia's actions against the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine."
      1. Riperbahn
        Riperbahn 2 March 2014 16: 27
        +5
        They will consult their ambassador Norkus in terms of - sit and do not lean out of your norkuss, oh - mink :)))
      2. Nekarmadlen
        Nekarmadlen 2 March 2014 16: 29
        +21
        Well, they can, for example, withdraw their sprats. Then we will really be scared! Where are Onishchenko?
        1. AVIATOR36662
          AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 16: 47
          +7
          And if from there our oligarchic elite withdraws its business at the command of our elder, then you certainly will not envy them. It immediately becomes clear how much someone fed whom in the USSR.
          1. sovety
            sovety 2 March 2014 18: 01
            +5
            Everyone has long understood who fed whom.
            This is not necessary to prove.
            We must again collect the Motherland in pieces.
            The time has apparently come.
        2. pulemetchik_39
          pulemetchik_39 2 March 2014 19: 47
          +7
          I protest !!! Baltic sprats - a market leader in Russian ashtrays since 1940! lol
          1. Simon
            Simon 3 March 2014 10: 35
            0
            Again the problem! In Russia, there is already a fight against smoking. Let the ashtrays be kept.
      3. Free Island
        Free Island 2 March 2014 16: 57
        +12
        recall of the Lithuanian ambassador will lead to the collapse of the Russian economy and the collapse of the Russian state !!! is it like the end of the world, how will we continue to live without the ambassador of the Principality of Lithuania ??? also Canadian galloped)))
      4. anrykaluga
        anrykaluga 2 March 2014 19: 24
        +1
        Frightened by the "Russian Spring", I probably went to say that I need to buy 5 more carts and put them on the border!
      5. Merchant
        Merchant 3 March 2014 01: 16
        0
        Brothers what can you say about the statement of banderlog Makarevich! It is a pity that I have not yet found his speech on the internet! My opinion is that this marsh sukon should shut up his mouth on Russian channels both radio and television !!!
    4. Monk
      Monk 2 March 2014 16: 18
      +15
      I propose to Geyrope to support their neo-fascist brothers - the "right sector" and then they will have Berlin - 1945 version 2.0
      1. Lissyara
        Lissyara 2 March 2014 17: 01
        +11
        This is the version of Berlin 2.0
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      3. sovety
        sovety 2 March 2014 18: 05
        0
        It will not.
        The desert will be laughing
    5. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 2 March 2014 16: 18
      +23
      Quote: gfs84
      15: 58 NATO sees Russia's actions as a threat to Europe

      source http://lenta.ru/

      I think that certain US sanctions, we can’t avoid. Those. it will be some elements of the economic blockade.
      Well, what can you do? Somewhere you have to tighten your belt. For the sake of leaving the unipolar world, this is not such a big sacrifice.
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 2 March 2014 16: 22
        +9
        Quote: Al_lexx
        I think that certain sanctions on the part of the USA cannot be avoided.

        These sanctions will give them more negativity. Our turnover is small and mainly we buy.
        1. Vita_vko
          Vita_vko 2 March 2014 16: 31
          +21
          Then, the American space program will be covered. Where are they without Russian engines. But the space programs of Iran and China will advance dramatically.
          1. Al_lexx
            Al_lexx 2 March 2014 16: 55
            +4
            Quote: Vita_vko
            Then, the American space program will be covered. Where are they without Russian engines. But the space programs of Iran and China will advance dramatically.

            To my humble understanding, in the context of engines, the Americans have practically no separate space program. There is a joint program for the ISS. Heavy rocket engines - yes, we have the heaviest ones. True, they launch the heaviest satellites with our engines. Well ... they will no longer build such satellites, they will build less.

            In general, the program of our cooperation with the Americans is quite extensive and diverse, so that it would be so simple to talk about it here, at the kitchen level.
        2. Al_lexx
          Al_lexx 2 March 2014 16: 51
          +1
          Quote: Russ69
          Our turnover is small and mainly we buy.

          Americans buy a lot of raw materials from us. Mostly metals. Although I am not special in these matters. This is better where to ventilate the thread on RBC.
          1. Tjumenec72
            Tjumenec72 2 March 2014 17: 21
            +2
            RBC is still the mouthpiece of publicity)
            1. Al_lexx
              Al_lexx 2 March 2014 17: 45
              +5
              Quote: Tjumenec72
              RBC is still the mouthpiece of publicity)

              RBC is primarily a media for business. You just need to understand this. Those. for whom exactly are they writing.
          2. Tersky
            Tersky 2 March 2014 19: 47
            +3
            Quote: Al_lexx
            This is better where to ventilate the thread on RBC.

            Well, yes ... RBC is famous for its "non-engagement", it's better to ask the grandmother sitting at the entrance ...
        3. Kizhich
          Kizhich 2 March 2014 17: 37
          +16
          I think that we should not worry! They all like 90 live !!!!
        4. StolzSS
          StolzSS 2 March 2014 18: 20
          +3
          YES we will cover them with the supply of engines for missiles and their entire nasa will fly into the pipe)))
        5. Dikson
          Dikson 2 March 2014 18: 31
          +5
          They didn’t let Aeroflot board through US airspace today ... they just reported on P24
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          2. tolancop
            tolancop 2 March 2014 20: 25
            +2
            Well, if not a duck, then it’s completely stupid ... How many foreign sides flies through Siberia is horror. Land in dozens ...
      2. soul
        soul 2 March 2014 16: 25
        +3
        You can introduce retaliatory sanctions. What do they buy from us there?
        1. gfs84
          gfs84 2 March 2014 16: 27
          +11
          Titan for Boeing ... For example)
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 2 March 2014 20: 04
            +4
            Quote: gfs84
            Titan for Boeing ... For example)

            We do not supply titanium to them, we manufacture and supply titanium components. They are manufactured and delivered by VSMPO-Avisma. In total, Boeing and Airbus purchase from 40 to 70% of titanium components for aircraft production in Russia. For reference: Russian titanium components in the Dreamliner make up about 10% of the mass of the aircraft structure, i.e. less than 15 tons per plane.
          2. tolancop
            tolancop 2 March 2014 20: 28
            +2
            As far as I know, not just titanium, but titanium parts.
            And you still need to be able to handle it.
            But even if the parts are not titanium, then their production so simply can not be adjusted at another point. The Boeing will definitely have problems due to the disruption of technological chains. Losses, losses, losses ...
        2. SSR
          SSR 2 March 2014 21: 45
          0
          Quote: alma
          You can introduce retaliatory sanctions. What do they buy from us there?

          TVELs for nuclear power plants
      3. gfs84
        gfs84 2 March 2014 16: 30
        +6
        These are such terrible American sanctions ...

        The United States suspended participation in preparations for the G8 summit, due to take place in Sochi on June 4-5. This is stated in a White House press release following a conversation between US President Barack Obama and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin.

        And in the wake of them ...

        French authorities have suspended preparations for the G2014 summit to be held in Sochi in June 2. On Sunday, March XNUMX, reports Agence France-Presse.
        1. gfs84
          gfs84 2 March 2014 18: 17
          +4
          Here are some more terrible American sanctions ...

          A delegation of members of the Iranian parliament canceled a trip to Venezuela and Cuba as its plane was not cleared to fly through US airspace, Iranian official media reported on March 2. The head of the Iranian parliamentary committee on national security and international relations, Alaeddin Burujerdi, called the US decision sabotage. “Burujerdi said that the delegation was supposed to start a visit to Venezuela and Cuba today. However, the United States did not allow the plane of the Russian company Aeroflot, on board of which there were Iranian deputies, to cross the American airspace, "Interfax reports. Now Tehran is working on a new date for the trip and on how it will be easier for MPs to get to Venezuela and Cuba.

          I wonder how Iran will now react to this ...
          After all, they might be offended, start riveting on the new BOMB ...
          1. gfs84
            gfs84 2 March 2014 18: 43
            +4
            US Secretary of State John Kerry condemned Russia's desire to intervene in events in Ukraine, reports Interfax on March 2. John Kerry told reporters that he considers the actions of Moscow "an incredible act of aggression." In his opinion, the Russian leadership in this case “made a stunning and informed choice”, deciding to use the military in the territory of another state. According to the head of the State Department, he discussed with a number of foreign colleagues the events in Ukraine, and his interlocutors expressed their readiness to achieve isolation of Russia in this matter. He also discusses the possibility of visa restrictions, asset freezes, and investment restrictions.

            what clever words he knows, and again he wants to drive us into isolation, just like in 2008 ...
            1. gfs84
              gfs84 2 March 2014 20: 16
              +3
              The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine announced on March 2 that the ships of the country's Navy, which are at their main base in Sevastopol, did not leave the Sevastopol Bay. “All ships of the naval forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which are located in their main base in Sevastopol, did not leave the Sevastopol Bay,” the ministry said in a statement. Earlier, a source in the Crimean administration told RIA Novosti that about ten ships of the Ukrainian Navy left the base in Sevastopol over the past 10 hours. “Over the past day, about XNUMX ships left the base in Sevastopol without any coercion from the administration of the Crimean autonomy. Several ships subsequently returned to the base in Sevastopol due to breakdowns, ”the source said.

              Oh how !!! Not that they didn’t break, they just didn’t go anywhere ...
              Is there no fuel? Or desire)))
              1. gfs84
                gfs84 2 March 2014 20: 30
                +3
                HERE AND ANSWER !!!

                The commander of the naval forces of Ukraine Denis Berezovsky swore allegiance to the Crimean people. According to RIA Novosti, he said this on Sunday, March 2, at a press conference in Sevastopol.

                “I, Berezovsky Denis Valentinovich, swear allegiance to the Crimean people and undertake to protect him, as required by the charter,” said Rear Admiral, appointed to the post of Commander-in-Chief of the Navy by decree of Acting President Alexander Turchinov of March 1.
            2. tolancop
              tolancop 2 March 2014 20: 39
              +2
              About the "stunning and deliberate choice" amused.
              And pleased at the same time. They didn’t expect it, sir .. For so many years they suffered rudeness, but here ON YOU !!!
              "Isolation of Russia" ... It's scary !!! And we are already in isolation, because we are repeating about international law, and they wanted to sneeze at us.
              "Visa restrictions". Hurry up too. The West will have fewer potential hostages.
              "Freezing of assets and restrictions on investments" ... Of course, I am not a specialist, but I have only heard about global investments in Russia that they will have to be ... The reality, I think, is much more modest. Freezing of assets, of course, will be more terrible ... But buyers of oil, gas, etc. what do they think about this? That Russia will regularly pump raw materials, but for nothing?
              The war of nerves is on. And it seems to me that GDP and a company have stronger nerves ...
              1. Nekarmadlen
                Nekarmadlen 2 March 2014 23: 46
                0
                Vladimir Vladimirovich has something else stronger, I apologize ...
        2. Nekarmadlen
          Nekarmadlen 2 March 2014 23: 42
          0
          You are no longer my girlfriend
          You are no longer my friend
          Take your toys
          And do not pee in my pot!
      4. Tatarus
        Tatarus 2 March 2014 16: 40
        +28
        Quote: Al_lexx
        Somewhere you have to tighten your belt. For the sake of leaving the unipolar world, this is not such a big sacrifice.


        Yes, no. China will not throw us. China produces everything, but Russia has all the resources. For the two of us, the rest of the world is not really needed.
        1. Al_lexx
          Al_lexx 2 March 2014 16: 57
          +13
          I already wrote, it is not necessary to primitize our relations with America. Everything is not as simple as it seems from the kitchen stool. Cooperation with China will not replace us with cooperation with America in certain areas. On the other hand, the Americans will also have to deny themselves something.

          I just wanted to emphasize that they would hit us somewhere and hit us tangibly, but now we have no other choice. In this situation we cannot bend under them.
          1. from punk
            from punk 2 March 2014 18: 11
            +1
            politics is a polytechnic and economics is different here everything is tied up. we are bad and they don’t
          2. dustycat
            dustycat 2 March 2014 18: 54
            +5
            The complexity of the situation is that any actions of the Anglo-Saxons on the economic infringement of Russia lead to the exit of Russia from the Fed’s tight control.
            In the end.
            Although at some stage it will be difficult.
            But no worse than the 1990s.
            1. Dikson
              Dikson 2 March 2014 19: 42
              +4
              Quote: dustycat

              Although at some stage it will be difficult.
              But no worse than the 1990s.


              maybe worse ... Some industries are in much worse shape than in the 90s.
          3. tolancop
            tolancop 2 March 2014 20: 44
            +2
            I agree. The current battle, I think (from the point of view of couch diplomacy, of course, but not bad thoughts come on sofas), determines the face of the world for the coming years, and maybe decades. The victory of Russia is a deafening undermining of the authority of the West and its ability to create what one wants in the world. The defeat of Russia - the West retains the role of world hegemon for a long time.
        2. sovety
          sovety 2 March 2014 18: 16
          +1
          Yes, the remark is interesting.
          But China, if much resources are needed for trade with the west?
          The West will give China any support to get these resources.
      5. SV
        SV 2 March 2014 16: 51
        +32
        certain US sanctions, we can’t avoid

        Initially, Russia has two options:
        1. It falls under the states according to the most stringent rules defined by the overlord for the vassal;
        2. To enter into a hard confrontation with the West (for them, even mild - a manifestation of weakness), defending their own interests.

        The second option carries enormous risks, but it is the only one giving the future to our country.
        1. Al_lexx
          Al_lexx 2 March 2014 17: 00
          +7
          Quote: SV
          certain US sanctions, we can’t avoid

          Initially, Russia has two options:
          1. It falls under the states according to the most stringent rules defined by the overlord for the vassal;
          2. To enter into a hard confrontation with the West (for them, even mild - a manifestation of weakness), defending their own interests.

          The second option carries enormous risks, but it is the only one giving the future to our country.

          +1
          Everything is correct. This is what I am trying to convey.
          And that’s what I’ve been talking about recently Alexander Dugin
          http://www.kp.ru/online/news/1674594/
          http://www.kp.ru/daily/26197.4/3084361/
        2. jjj
          jjj 2 March 2014 17: 00
          +1
          Quote: SV
          The second option carries enormous risks, but it is the only one giving the future to our country.

          And apparently this time has come
          1. elmi
            elmi 2 March 2014 17: 42
            +8
            Quote: jjj
            And apparently this time has come

            But not to provide even the broadest autonomy:
            We will raise the question of changing the autonomous status of Crimea to state

            Then why so much effort? so that it’s so easy to achieve autonomy with the help of Russia ??? I fundamentally disagree. Crimea was historically Russian, a large price was paid for it - with the blood of Russian soldiers, and the fact that Khrushchev gave Crimea to Ukraine is a betrayal and illegal. So we have every right to return Crimea to Russia and there are no autonomies there. Now autonomy and then when strong power comes to Ukraine will return everything and start again in a new way: the oppression of the Russian-speaking population will be tried to expel the Black Sea Fleet or in exchange for a stay reduction of gas prices or raise the rental price. The withdrawal of one-Crimea to Russia, and those regions of Ukraine who want to voluntarily become part of Russia. Of course, the West will raise a howl, sanctions, arrests accounts, boycott our World Cup lu, spit on them, then they will stop loyal, it is necessary to confirm the status of SUPERPOWER.
            1. Rost_a
              Rost_a 2 March 2014 18: 24
              +6
              I think that this is just a stage - Crimea, as a separate state, there will be a referendum on joining Russia. If you immediately hold a referendum on accession, too much howling from Europe will rise.
              1. elmi
                elmi 2 March 2014 19: 21
                +4
                Quote: Rost_a
                I think that this is just a stage - Crimea, as a separate state, there will be a referendum on joining Russia. If you immediately hold a referendum on accession, too much howling from Europe will rise.

                It would be nice if so, but experience with Abkhazia and South Ossetia shows that they, or our authorities, are not particularly in a hurry to include these countries in Russia.
                1. tolancop
                  tolancop 2 March 2014 20: 47
                  0
                  What for? Crimea is another matter. Key point. Therefore, such a battle began ...
            2. krpmlws
              krpmlws 2 March 2014 22: 13
              0
              I support elmi. An ambiguous situation: Russia is taking such a step as sending troops into the territory of a sovereign country, but why, is the game worth the candle? There will surely be negative consequences for Russia, the West will not leave it that way and squeeze the maximum out of the situation. earlier, promptly admonishing or exerting pressure on Yanukovych on steps that would not have allowed Natsik to power. Yes, and compatriots could be supported by using methods in accordance with generally accepted international standards. Thus, the introduction of troops will then be justified when it leads either to a split in the south eastern region from Ukraine, with the formation of a new sovereign state, or the entry of this republic into Russia. But just the traces of this process are not visible. Here on the forum, many are overly optimistic about the prospect of a unification of Russia and the south-eastern region, but the reasons, the real actions in this direction not yet. Let’s wait and see, it is possible that you will see the introduction of troops Flattering the seriousness of the intentions of the Russian government.
        3. Antinata
          Antinata 2 March 2014 21: 11
          0
          If Putler is not stopped, the collapse of Russia is inevitable.
          How long will your country be a scarecrow for all other nations? You organically cannot peacefully solve your problems? Or seas and seas of blood are needed so that you finally understand that it is not the biggest fist that decides the issues, not the biggest club, not the biggest dope.
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        1. Al_lexx
          Al_lexx 2 March 2014 17: 07
          0
          Quote: Free Island
          Dear, your memory is short ....

          Dear, if you are talking to me, then my memory is not short. I remember everything perfectly. But I do not agree that
          Quote: Free Island
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          This is for you personally poh, because you do not see beyond your nose.
          Sorry for the sharpness.
          1. Marine One
            Marine One 2 March 2014 17: 49
            0
            Quote: Al_lexx
            This is for you personally poh, because you do not see beyond your nose.


            Personally, he FSUs, by the way, you and I too. It is unlikely that it will reach serious sanctions that directly affect the population. I’ll just remind you that we have a share of imports in the region of 80% on drugs.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 2 March 2014 18: 08
              +6
              Quote: Marine One
              Personally, he FSUs, by the way, you and I too.

              But I do not care. A banal example- 1) the bulk of Russia's savings is in the zone of the dollar and the euro, and not in gold bars. 2) Drop oil prices, for the United States just spit. Our economy is rather weak.
              The only hope remains - industrialization at the Stalinist pace + to be friends with China at any cost. But the big question is, will it succeed? The situation was too similar at the beginning of both world wars.
              P.S. And will Vova go the Stalin path, and not the path of Nicholas II?
              1. Marine One
                Marine One 2 March 2014 18: 53
                +4
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                I don’t care for x.


                Ingvar, I mean that neither you nor I keep Bank of America and Wells Fargo money, our children do not study there, we do not own houses on the Pacific and Atlantic coasts. Sanctions, first of all, will hit the elite (I remember Brzezinski, "you still figure it out: is this your elite or ours already?").
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 2 March 2014 19: 34
                  +4
                  Quote: Marine One
                  Sanctions will first hit the elite

                  the fact of the matter is that OUR elite will modestly shift the consequences of sanctions onto the shoulders of the people. Pans are fighting, at lackeys forelocks are cracking. But the horses at the crossing do not change, so it remains to hope for the fortress of his thinned forelock. request
              2. dustycat
                dustycat 2 March 2014 19: 12
                +5
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                But I do not care. A banal example- 1) the bulk of Russia's savings is in the zone of the dollar and the euro, and not in gold bars. 2) Drop oil prices, for the United States just spit. Our economy is rather weak.

                Even worse.
                She is completely under the control of the Fed.
                Although there they say in the RBC the current ruble depreciation due to the elephant maneuvers of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.
                But in reality, the whole point is that the ruble exchange rate is controlled by the Fed, and not the Central Bank - the ruble rate fell together with the acceleration of the maidanization process.
                This is the Fed’s preventive measure to appease Putin.
                At the same time, the Central Bank continues to "reorganize banks" - in fact, the liquidation of the national electronic payment system - 20k banks that get the right to place payments on deposit insurance of liquidated banks offer only "Visa" and "Mastercard" instead.
                Sberbank has liquidated the "savings card" and works only with a "visa".

                So soon even the "contrabass" together with all the RF Armed Forces will receive their salaries through the "Visa".
                Such is the "card layout".
            2. Al_lexx
              Al_lexx 3 March 2014 01: 28
              0
              Quote: Marine One
              Quote: Al_lexx
              This is for you personally poh, because you do not see beyond your nose.


              Personally, he FSUs, by the way, you and I too. It is unlikely that it will reach serious sanctions that directly affect the population. I’ll just remind you that we have a share of imports in the region of 80% on drugs.

              No, I don’t. And not because I'm all so consciously active, but because I see how the ruble is falling and prices are literally rising for everything, and this is only the beginning. And in the context of economic sanctions, kmk, this process will go faster. Given that I am not a businessman, but my hired labor and my employer will not be able to indefinitely index my salary, since we are manufacturers of consumer electronics, and our purchasing power and, accordingly, our incomes will fall, in the aggregate of factors the situation will hit my wallet rather painfully and standard of living.
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      7. aviator_IAS
        aviator_IAS 2 March 2014 18: 20
        +3
        Quote: Al_lexx
        Well, what can you do? Somewhere you have to tighten your belt. For the sake of leaving the unipolar world, this is not such a big sacrifice.

        I can imagine how different Gozmans, Nasralny and Nemtsovs will conquer. They will demand a salary increase and will introduce the State Department into embezzlement.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 2 March 2014 18: 33
          +3
          Quote: aviator_IAS
          I can imagine how different Gozmans, Nasralny and Nemtsovs will conquer.

          Most likely shut up. With all my disrespect for Vova, now he has made a strong move, and the helminths you listed can only play on punctures. I repeat, well done in Vova’s foreign policy. That would be in the internal (economy) as well kept.
          Albeit prohibitively shy, the actions of the Russian leadership towards Ukraine give hope, albeit weak, that a quarter of a century of national treason will begin to end.
          And even weaker, but the hope that the protection of Russians outside of Russia will go into their defense on the territory of Russia itself.
          And for this, re-industrialization is necessary, the need for which was almost simultaneously emphasized by two very different people in Russia - Putin and Khodorkovsky.
          Why, even from a liberal point of view, it is necessary to produce everything ourselves that is not produced in the world by at least three unrelated producers.
          What a positive lesson the current US leadership is giving us.
          M. Delyagin.
    6. Russ69
      Russ69 2 March 2014 16: 20
      +9
      Quote: gfs84
      15: 58 NATO sees Russia's actions as a threat to Europe

      Counter-question, And where they see no threats at all, is there such a place ..?
      1. gfs84
        gfs84 2 March 2014 16: 23
        +4
        The question, as I understand it, is rhetorical)))
        But still I’ll answer - paranoid ...
        Maybe send them a landing - psychiatrists)))
      2. novobranets
        novobranets 2 March 2014 16: 28
        +2
        Quote: Russ69
        And where they do not see threats at all, is there such a place ..?

        Are paranoid people safe?
    7. Sosland
      Sosland 2 March 2014 16: 32
      +26
      Ukraine has a large selection:
      1. Ukraine will be raped by the geyropa in a perverted form, and will stand on a par with the already humiliated, and they will do it with it qualitatively and regularly, sometimes allowing the states to take advantage. And tovarischi Ukrainians will look into the EU * opa and with lust can wait and that you will fall after the Bulgarians ...
      2. Ukraine will be raped by Russia in a classic way and eventually marry her.
      In any case, she will be raped, and in this situation Ukraine is more to blame for herself.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 2 March 2014 17: 09
        +12
        Quote: SoSland
        Ukraine has a large selection:
        1. Ukraine will be raped by the geyropa in a perverted form, and will stand on a par with the already humiliated, and they will do it with it qualitatively and regularly, sometimes allowing the states to take advantage. And tovarischi Ukrainians will look into the EU * opa and with lust can wait and that you will fall after the Bulgarians ...
        2. Ukraine will be raped by Russia in a classic way and eventually marry her.
        In any case, she will be raped, and in this situation Ukraine is more to blame for herself.

        My applause. You can’t say better.
        1. suomi
          suomi 2 March 2014 19: 48
          +2
          Our mood is too capricious. The two videos that were dropped above show that not everything is so smooth and not everyone is going to give up. They are the same Slavs as we are. And side by side we went through more than one war. And no one could reproach Ukrainians for cowardice.
      2. tolancop
        tolancop 2 March 2014 20: 51
        +1
        That's for sure. But there is no one to blame - Nehru was ... sing wag ...
    8. Andrey57
      Andrey57 2 March 2014 16: 33
      +9
      15: 58 NATO sees Russia's actions as a threat to Europe


      Rightly afraid - they used to go crazy with impunity, now you have to get used to - Russia is back !!! The times of "what I want, I turn it over" are over! good
      1. Oleg77
        Oleg77 2 March 2014 19: 32
        0
        Now what? Will Russia turn back?
        1. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov 2 March 2014 20: 45
          0
          Quote: Oleg77
          Now what? Will Russia turn back?
          And something you so scared sir? Or did you give the Belarusian flag by mistake? At the thief .....?
    9. Ari100kraT
      Ari100kraT 2 March 2014 16: 34
      +4
      Quote: gfs84
      15: 58 NATO sees Russia's actions as a threat to Europe

      There, not only Europe, but also the United States shook ... Well, how much can a bear be teased?
      1. nikoli25
        nikoli25 2 March 2014 17: 19
        +5
        spring came, the bear came out of hibernation, hungry and evil ...
      2. cosmos111
        cosmos111 2 March 2014 17: 26
        +6
        all available personnel, marines of the Ukrainian Navy, at the gates of their unit fellow (((

        and one, the only BMP-2-EVERYTHING, no longer any weapons laughing (((
        1. sapran
          sapran 2 March 2014 17: 34
          +1
          ..and? what's next? at the airport we only had orderlies with bayonet-knives? or have you reviewed cartoons about ninja turtles?
        2. Riperbahn
          Riperbahn 2 March 2014 17: 35
          +2
          It’s straightforward - they pray passionately - let us go. Open the gate! We also want a free cream from this zapadenschiny :))))
        3. Lyapis
          Lyapis 2 March 2014 18: 29
          +2
          Yes, against the background of "polite people" - a very dull sight ... Especially sad looks, like animals in a zoo.
          1. tolancop
            tolancop 2 March 2014 20: 56
            +4
            No need to mock the soldiers !!! Put yourself in their place ... Start fighting? For what? What idea? Obviously, they pile on and will not look at the "relationship". Do not fight? And it is not yet known how it will turn ... Thoughts about their fate are always difficult ...
            1. Riperbahn
              Riperbahn 2 March 2014 21: 42
              -1
              No one mocks. It’s just visible - not the Golden Eagle. These funny faces in a warm barracks with latrine thought to sit out :(
            2. AVIATOR36662
              AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 21: 43
              +1
              They cannot fight by definition, because. there is neither practice nor such experience as these "polite" guys (ours). Judging by the numbers on the cars, they are from the North Caucasus Military District, but here everyone has great experience. Yes, and their commanders, as it turned out, betray them once or twice. We are waiting on 03.03.2014 for Comrade Yanukovych to decide on his (and our) plans. And for these frightened children I set some kind of task.
        4. Riperbahn
          Riperbahn 2 March 2014 21: 15
          0
          One at a time, with ... children! (c) M. Bulgakov "Heart of a Dog" We will let everyone in who is not against Ukraine
      3. SkiF_RnD
        SkiF_RnD 2 March 2014 17: 38
        +4
        http://lenta.ru/
        It is necessary that Roskomnadzor blocked this shop "For Heresy" recourse
      4. Oleg77
        Oleg77 2 March 2014 19: 33
        -1
        How do you dream that everyone is afraid of you! fool
    10. RUS96
      RUS96 2 March 2014 17: 19
      +19
      Sevastopol, strategistsEntrance to the city center. Noon. March 2, 2014
      1. jjj
        jjj 2 March 2014 17: 29
        +13
        Quote: RUS96
        Entrance to the city center. Noon.2 March 2014

        And, by the way, it looks impressive. And the soundtrack is curious. First, the well-known expression from the mouth of a man, then the lady exhales with relief: "These are ours."
      2. Tatarus
        Tatarus 2 March 2014 17: 36
        +5
        The city will be ours
      3. Trofimov Andrey
        Trofimov Andrey 2 March 2014 17: 55
        +5
        What a beauty !!!
      4. sasin2008
        sasin2008 2 March 2014 19: 41
        +5
        It looks more epic.
    11. Barsik
      Barsik 2 March 2014 17: 19
      +16
      A group of peacefully armed men in the form of Russian special forces but without identification marks occupied the European Parliament building. The flag of the European Union was torn down and the Russian tricolor was hoisted in its place.
      Correct mattresses are worried))))
      1. Oleg77
        Oleg77 2 March 2014 19: 37
        .
        Do you have imperial schizophrenia?
    12. witch
      witch 2 March 2014 17: 40
      +3
      NATO began to fight, yet the reflex (for the times that our troops traveled to Europe) then worked out. they are afraid of RUSSIA. therefore, full of holes and holes from NATO, think whether to bend the ball while playing with RUSSIA
    13. Civil
      Civil 2 March 2014 18: 06
      -4
      And bucks, just in case you need to buy .. and we are waiting for the comment of China
      1. Marine One
        Marine One 2 March 2014 18: 14
        +3
        Quote: Civil
        And bucks, just in case you need to buy .. and we are waiting for the comment of China


        This is you in vain about bucks. Now the sonderkommando of patriotic schoolchildren will leave for you with VO.
        What about China? What is China? Under Ukraine, Yanukovych was swaying a lot of money in Ukraine, and therefore, any separatism from the east-to-right, west-to-left series is completely uninteresting to them. China, in general, does not like separatists in any way.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 2 March 2014 18: 23
        +1
        Quote: Civil
        And bucks, just in case you need to buy ..

        If you buy, then the products, not green pieces of paper. And it is really interesting to listen to comments from China. hi
        1. Marine One
          Marine One 2 March 2014 18: 45
          +1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          And it’s really interesting to listen to comments from China


          China has so far more or less loudly noted an article in the People's Republic of China, the general pathos of which is "we are for all the good against all the bad." Again, China does not like separatism as a phenomenon. Therefore, you will not have to wait for special support from here.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 2 March 2014 19: 43
            +1
            Quote: Marine One
            Therefore, there is no need to wait for special support from here.

            If only there was no special poop, the east is a delicate matter. If China remains neutral, all the NATO horror stories and scarecrows are only to our advantage, because promote cohesion. Personally, I am very wary of China.
            P.S. Does anyone have a link to Lukashenko’s reaction to events in Ukraine and in particular in Crimea?
            1. gfs84
              gfs84 2 March 2014 20: 00
              +6
              Only this came to my eye:

              On March 2, Belarusian police stopped an opposition rally near the Russian embassy in Minsk. According to the Nasha Niva newspaper, 21 people were detained at an unauthorized rally against Russian policy in Ukraine.

              At the same time, seven journalists were detained before the action, intending to cover the rally. All of them were delivered to the Central Department of Internal Affairs of Minsk. The report states that the police explained the detention of journalists by the need to establish their identities.

              The protesters intended to disagree with the decision of the Russian senators, who allowed President Vladimir Putin to send troops to Ukraine. The action was not agreed with the city authorities, and therefore the police stopped it. Journalists note that the activists were personally led by the head of the city police who ordered them not to stand on ceremony with the opposition.

              21 protesting of them 7 journalists - know-how ...
              Well, since Lukoshenko does not allow this "event" to be held, it means that he supports Russia
        2. dustycat
          dustycat 2 March 2014 20: 36
          +4
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          And it is really interesting to listen to comments from China.

          If interested, listen to the Beijing Russian Radio Service.
          You know, very curious.
          Something like they say “among the usual lies of the revisionist government of Russia, sober voices sometimes sound more closely to the promises of the opportunist government of Ukraine, to which individual entrepreneurs of the People's Republic of China did not heed, which once again proved the effectiveness of the planned socialist economy over the capitalist one”.
    14. R-118bm3
      R-118bm3 2 March 2014 19: 08
      0
      The Americans in their repertoire.
    15. infinite silence ...
      infinite silence ... 2 March 2014 19: 13
      +5
      Anyone who has once proclaimed violence as his method must inexorably choose falsehood as his principle. About the USA, NATO and others like them. It’s hard to say more precisely.
    16. I do not care
      I do not care 2 March 2014 19: 45
      +5
      I went to work in the Kursk region today. I randomly counted 50-60 Kamaz trucks with tankers in the landings. Everything is covered by a sprue with a net, with 50 meters it’s hard to see. No kidding.
      Kmuto may need to cook petroleum jelly ...
    17. mirag2
      mirag2 2 March 2014 20: 01
      +1
      Good evening, I beg your pardon that I climbed into the top, I want to offer you a look at what Debka writes about the situation in Ukraine, Obama, the EU and Russia:
      http://www.debka.com/
      It seems that the game went all-in.
      Or or soldier
    18. Alex 241
      Alex 241 2 March 2014 20: 30
      +5
      Navy Commander Denis Berezovsky took the oath of allegiance to the Crimea!
      Ukrainian Navy took the oath of allegiance to the inhabitants of the Crimea. Created by the Navy of Crimea
      2014-03-02 18:22:07

      Just became known, the Prime Minister of Crimea S. Aksyonov, announced the creation of the Crimean Naval Forces, which reassigned all the Naval Forces of Ukraine.

      Aksenov said that this day in the future can be considered the day of the creation of the Armed Forces of Crimea.

      Rear Admiral Denis Berezovsky has been appointed Commander of the Crimean Naval Forces. He refused to obey the orders of the Minister of Defense of Ukraine.

      And in the presence of journalists he took the oath of allegiance to the residents of Crimea

      Sevastopol.
    19. Nick
      Nick 2 March 2014 21: 19
      +2
      Quote: gfs84
      15: 58 NATO sees Russia's actions as a threat to Europe

      Moscow saw in the actions of NATO a threat to Russia.
    20. AVV
      AVV 2 March 2014 22: 30
      0
      Quote: gfs84
      15: 58 NATO sees Russia's actions as a threat to Europe

      source http://lenta.ru/

      Yes, let them see what they want, the main thing is that they have muddied, it must be done so that they dissipate !!! Europe will not have a quiet life, and if they harm it, they will not get half the gas next winter !!!
  2. Russ69
    Russ69 2 March 2014 16: 03
    +15
    Before deciding the status of Sevastopol. Crimea needs to consolidate its status ...
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 2 March 2014 17: 15
      +7
      Quote: Russ69
      atus of Sevastopol. Crimea needs to start consolidating its status ...

      but also the statuses of other cities and regions that raised the Russian flags ((((
      Odessa, Donetsk, Kharkov, Donbas, Lugansk ...
  3. a52333
    a52333 2 March 2014 16: 04
    +9
    Sevastopol may receive special status in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea


    To start, and so it goes. It is clear that I want to join the Crimea immediately and completely. but patience ......
  4. sapran
    sapran 2 March 2014 16: 05
    +2
    The case smells of "kerosene" ... Even a high-quality provocation could not be concocted .. For that the people were angry and pushed their heads.
    1. Lyapis
      Lyapis 2 March 2014 16: 12
      +16
      And what is the message of your post and attached picture? Clarify please.
      1. sapran
        sapran 2 March 2014 16: 15
        .
        Where does the "pseudo right sector" have the weapons shown in the picture? Or did the "saviors" want to play penball with the "defenders"?
      2. Riperbahn
        Riperbahn 2 March 2014 16: 29
        +1
        Something also did not understand :( Or is it a reference to the fact that these are weapons of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs?
        1. Lyapis
          Lyapis 2 March 2014 16: 36
          -1
          GM-94 is only in service with the Russian Armed Forces and the Ministry of Internal Affairs. I just did not understand where this photo was taken from.
          1. sapran
            sapran 2 March 2014 16: 40
            -2
            "shooting" in Simferopol under which all the rest of the "hype"
            for example http://obozrevatel.com/crime/58627-boeviki-otkryili-strelbu-v-simferopole.htm
            1. hrych
              hrych 2 March 2014 18: 17
              +4
              “Ah, what am I to blame?” - “Be quiet! I'm tired of listening,
              Leisure me sort your fault, puppy!
              You are to blame for the fact that I want to eat. "
              Said and dragged into the dark forest Lamb.


              I. A. Krylov, “The Wolf and the Lamb”
          2. avt
            avt 2 March 2014 17: 20
            +18
            Quote: Lyapis
            GM-94 is only in service with the Russian Armed Forces and the Ministry of Internal Affairs.

            I dare to disappoint you. Even on "Discovery" in a program dedicated to special units for combating crime, the American presenter tried this grenade launcher from the Kazakh security forces - they gave it to him to shoot. It has long been shown and sold at exhibitions.
            1. Lyapis
              Lyapis 2 March 2014 17: 48
              +7
              Well, then I apologize for my illiteracy. Thank you for correcting!
          3. user1212
            user1212 2 March 2014 17: 52
            +6
            GM 94 is freely sold by Rosoboronexport
            1. dustycat
              dustycat 2 March 2014 20: 50
              +1
              And is pretty popular with mercenaries.
    2. Tatarus
      Tatarus 2 March 2014 16: 42
      +1
      Photo from where?
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    4. cosmos111
      cosmos111 2 March 2014 17: 19
      0
      Quote: sapran
      ... Even they could not concoct a qualitative provocation .. З

      who, Bandera ??? yes, they are masters of such provocations and shooting, in the back (((
      1. sapran
        sapran 2 March 2014 17: 25
        0
        Yes, yes, just as you said, the tricks are the same everywhere.
        1. zol1
          zol1 2 March 2014 18: 23
          +2
          The fifth Ukrainian channel, the propaganda channel of the Maidan elite, so there is no need to talk about the authenticity of the events covered!
      2. Tatarus
        Tatarus 2 March 2014 17: 39
        +1
        Yes, it's SBUshniki went for vodka. Its over, so you won’t go out into the open. Therefore, a special operation. laughing
  5. vostok1982
    vostok1982 2 March 2014 16: 08
    +32
    will this self-delirious nonsense finally end? Southeastern regions are not needed by independent Ukraine. And this region will never develop until it is part of Ukraine. At a minimum, full autonomy is needed. As a maximum, separation from the fascist part of the country.
    1. soul
      soul 2 March 2014 16: 28
      +3
      Indeed, the s.v. oblasts have recently been deprived by the authorities
    2. aviator_IAS
      aviator_IAS 2 March 2014 18: 37
      +2
      Quote: vostok1982
      will this self-delirious nonsense finally end? Southeastern regions are not needed by independent Ukraine

      Just the opposite. They really need them. Who will feed them? Or do you think they themselves will go to work?
  6. Nekarmadlen
    Nekarmadlen 2 March 2014 16: 11
    +49
    Dear comrades, forum users! My husband is returning from Sevastopol with today's train! If you personally saw what was happening there! The people are JOYING! There are moods - as on the eve of May 1945! Will come, if it will be interesting to you, I will tell in more detail.
    1. gfs84
      gfs84 2 March 2014 16: 12
      +11
      Definitely want to know first hand)
    2. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 2 March 2014 16: 21
      +17
      Quote: Nekarmadlen
      There are moods - as on the eve of May 1945!

      Quote: gfs84
      Definitely want to know first hand)

      I am midnight today and have been reading the Sevastopol Forum all morning. People really cry with happiness that Russia has stood up for them in full.
      http://forum.sevastopol.info/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=768528

      Read first hand. Nothing prevents to register and personally express words of support. The first three posts will undergo mandatory moderation. Nothing wrong.
      1. gfs84
        gfs84 2 March 2014 16: 25
        +2
        Thanks for the link!
      2. Tatarus
        Tatarus 2 March 2014 16: 50
        +3
        I read near my eyes in a wet place. I drink cognac for Russian Crimea
        1. gfs84
          gfs84 2 March 2014 16: 53
          +4
          Koktebel hope)))
          1. Tatarus
            Tatarus 2 March 2014 17: 20
            +2
            Trophy Remi Martin XO
            1. gfs84
              gfs84 2 March 2014 17: 27
              +1
              Also good)))
  7. sapran
    sapran 2 March 2014 16: 12
    +5
    How many people, so many opinions need only learn to listen ...
    1. Nekarmadlen
      Nekarmadlen 2 March 2014 16: 25
      +7
      Dear, Vadim! Yes I do not offend you I say this! I adore Ukrainians, I go to rest in Mirgorod for the last 5 years, twice a year! Wonderful, kind, cordial people live there! My whole family travels to Andorra and Italy, and I come to you! And I sincerely want the Ukrainian people to be fine! My heart is contracting when I give away an amount equal to the bill in gratitude for the procedures and I know that after work the doctor from the sanatorium rushes to water the garden, because I need to feed the children, and there is a catastrophic lack of money. I wish you all the best!
    2. sapran
      sapran 2 March 2014 16: 34
      .
      I am not against rejoicing in a single city (or region) and for this I have to live (with regards to positive emotions), I am against the fact that in other regions, instead of rejoicing, a feeling of hatred arises (in which all the good and good things of many centuries are forgotten, the inner ones are put out resentment and afflictions and the image of the enemy comes first)
      1. Riperbahn
        Riperbahn 2 March 2014 16: 49
        +12
        I didn’t understand something. He is asked in Svidomo, and he answers in Russian. Perhaps this is the Russian sabotage, sent to break up the mobilization and undermining of the military commissariat and the entire defense of Ukraine. Looks like he’s smartly messing around in an enemy dialect :)))
        1. sapran
          sapran 2 March 2014 16: 56
          -6
          There’s nothing surprising in this: a neighbor from Voronezh but nevertheless ask for a Self-Defense detachment (in parallel, this is an answer to those who believe that if a person speaks and thinks in Russian, he is not a patriot of Ukraine)
        2. aviator_IAS
          aviator_IAS 2 March 2014 19: 47
          +2
          I understand this is a commercial.
          1. muhomor
            muhomor 3 March 2014 00: 58
            0
            during the transfer, no one left the military enlistment office or entered.
      2. Nekarmadlen
        Nekarmadlen 2 March 2014 16: 55
        +3
        Krasava! In pure Russian answers!
      3. _Voislav_
        _Voislav_ 2 March 2014 17: 58
        +6
        Sucker sucker, on the Maidan did not take so at least somewhere to take!
        1. Riperbahn
          Riperbahn 2 March 2014 18: 06
          0
          Promoting ssuko. Ours will come - remember how he helped the Maidun also mobilize.
      4. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 21: 59
        0
        This kind young man () has already helped to kill a hundred people like him for 200-300 hryvnias per day. Only now he will not break off a penny from a poor state. He himself helped to destroy his state. Whatever say, technologies to overthrow authorities are working well. And the future will remain. Kiev Russian Bandera. So all the provocateurs on their bestial cattle were from their own.
    3. SkiF_RnD
      SkiF_RnD 2 March 2014 18: 11
      +8
      Sapran what it was in Simferopol remains to be seen. But now I will express my opinion to you as a full-fledged citizen of my country, having the right to, I emphasize, private opinion. It does not have to coincide with the opinion of other Russians or the government of the Russian Federation. So.

      Now the topic of "Russian invaders" is being actively discussed on Ukrainian media resources. Bandera once again got a small opportunity to brainwash the citizens of Ukraine, actively heating up these discussions. In particular, as an argument, a position close to the one expressed by you is used. That the Russians, they say, set up the attack themselves.

      The people, who have just been shocked by what is happening on the streets, that full citizens are being robbed, taken "to the Maidan" for lynching, they are discriminating against the rights and freedoms for which you all just fought together, etc., received a sickly ice shower in the form of news about the permission of the Federation Council for the use of Russian troops in Crimea. This also has a sobering effect on the perpetrators of the lawlessness, the radical supporters of the "Right Sector".

      Despite the obvious positive development of events (when the militants are forced to cope with the fear of using harsh neutralization measures against them, with the help of the army; ordinary people, on the other hand, get more freedom of action, the ability to organize themselves and independently expel these p ... s from their cities, knowing that they will be supported by the Russians), conversations in the spirit of "it is necessary to revive the nuclear arsenal, all to the recruiting stations, to fight the invaders" are becoming popular.

      What can be said here? Even if it were precisely our provocations in Simferopol, I personally would have organized them myself in the place of our security officials, this saves the lives of Ukrainians, including the most stubborn, those who think that the Russians want to capture them. This, I repeat, does not mean that I believe in the Ukrainian media. I do not exclude the possibility of provocation on their part. But the thing is different. Ours are not going to smash the units of the Ukrainian army. No one is going to seize the territories and keep them rightfully strong, despite the desire of the legitimate authorities to return them. The legal authority, from our point of view, is Yanukovych, be it wrong. And he agreed to our help. Talk about military aggression against Ukraine- complete nonsense.
      1. Genry
        Genry 2 March 2014 20: 17
        +3
        Obolon is a district of Kiev. It looks like a custom video. Came before the opening.
        1. Riperbahn
          Riperbahn 2 March 2014 20: 25
          +1
          Before the discovery of what? Make it clear?
  8. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 2 March 2014 16: 13
    +6
    Yes, there WILL NOT be a fascist part of the country! These clowns have no future. Ordinary people will understand this very soon. Maidanutye will run away when it comes! Or they will have to help. A start.
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 22: 19
      0
      Ordinary people do not decide anything, and like rams, they can only follow a goat. And if there is no normal goat, then 100 insolent youths (without weapons, with simple sticks) will terrorize the millionth city, as it was with Kharkov. And the rams with a thousand-fold superiority in strength swallowed their snot for a week, these are the warriors, no words. So for the second week we have a practically fascist country (judging by the news from everyone from Ukraine), there are only prospects that the territory of this fascist country will decrease, with the help of Russia. But this is still not 100%. As the saying goes: “What will the head of the transport department say?” And the head of this department brings military pensioners with his regular exposure to heart attacks and a rapid decrease in alcohol stocks (and cognac including, because the well-being has grown).
  9. AnaBat
    AnaBat 2 March 2014 16: 16
    +8
    Ukraine now faces a global question - the West or RUSSIA! RUSSIA supported its people in Ukraine, actions for the people will rise for their rights or not! If they behave passively, then all in vain! It is necessary to crush the self-proclaimed power in Kiev from all sides! angry
    1. Genry
      Genry 2 March 2014 20: 28
      +2
      It is necessary to abruptly visit Kiev. Bring Yanukovych, let him immediately command the troops. Restore the government.
      But politeness will not be understood here. Have to keep the defense.
  10. smersh70
    smersh70 2 March 2014 16: 17
    .
    Quote: vostok1982
    We are ready to offer the Crimean Tatars those powers that they never had (before)

    Tatars will never agree. Here is their answer - To date, in the Crimea, unlike Kiev, Tatars men have not yet gathered in groups to mobilize. The chairman of the Crimean Majlis, Mustafa Dzhemilev, said this on the sidelines of the parliament, the Pressorg correspondent http://pressorg24.com reports.
    "Of course, we can also announce mobilization, like the Right Sector in Kiev, and create our own detachments, but they will not be legal from the point of view of the state. Therefore, we say that it will be necessary to enroll in the paramilitary military structures of the state, that is, in After all, if in Crimea the Crimean Tatars begin to create their own detachments, and the Russians and other nationalities - their own, then anarchy will result, "he said.
    M. Dzhemilev emphasized that the units should have their uniforms and legal weapons, relevant certificates.
    To clarification of the journalists regarding the methods of protecting the Crimean Tatars in the situation regarding the aggression of Russia, M. Dzhemilev noted: “This will depend on the methods that Russia will use. we will answer in a different way. "
    1. predator.3
      predator.3 2 March 2014 16: 25
      +10
      Quote: smersh70
      Tatars will never agree. Here is their answer - To date, in the Crimea, unlike Kiev, Tatars men have not yet gathered in groups to mobilize


      Crimean Tatars, as I understand it, have already received their dose of "Chinese warning"!
      1. aleshka
        aleshka 2 March 2014 16: 44
        +5
        The hero of Russia has not been in vain there for three days!
    2. soul
      soul 2 March 2014 16: 30
      +3
      Here, to prevent anarchy, Russia is ready to send troops
    3. Field
      Field 2 March 2014 16: 37
      +7
      Do not speak for all the Tatars, this is at least ungrateful

      Pan-Turkism, I look actively in the brain begins to beat?
      Or just trolling?
    4. saygon66
      saygon66 2 March 2014 16: 53
      -1
      - Well! They also want to snatch their piece, under the general mess! From whom are you going to defend yourself ?! From the Russians? Or from the Ukrainians who once sheltered them? It turns out that Ukraine has warmed the snake ... "We can too ...." that you "can" it is worth asking the Uzbeks, they will tell ...
      1. UzRus
        UzRus 2 March 2014 16: 59
        +2
        Ask ...
        1. saygon66
          saygon66 2 March 2014 17: 05
          +2
          - I ask, please tell me!
          1. saygon66
            saygon66 2 March 2014 17: 29
            +1
            - I, in fact, about why at the beginning of the 90's, quite densely sitting in the Syr Darya region (Gulistan, Yangiyul and Yangiyer) as, however, in other regions of Uzbekistan, the Crimean Tatars suddenly came together in unison with their economies. Moreover, there was no close talk of self-defense! Your point of view on this is personally interesting!
    5. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 2 March 2014 17: 27
      +4
      Quote: smersh70
      Tatars will never agree

      Nonsense. I wrote many times that the Crimean Tatars are not a single whole and most of them do not need any tensions, especially with the Russians. As if they were not offended by the forties, but these are not cockles, some of which useful things can be learned from their own experience. They only began to improve their lives, the business went, and you offer them to go to the barricades. Not funny.
      Majlis? Ten years ago, he used more than 80% of the support of the Crimean Tatars, now less than 20%, because the Majlis climbed onto the plateau of Soros handouts (etc.) and to him, in the large orchestral Crimean Tatars, in the broad sense of the word. He does nothing for them, he only assumes grants. Of course, there is a topic that some people are troubled, but if they get tired, they themselves will deal with troublemakers.
      I have repeatedly said that I communicate with very influential Crimeans on the coast. The elders condemn any form of extremism and look very askance at the bearded youth that appears in them (according to the law, they are not allowed, but they honor traditions).
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 2 March 2014 21: 03
        -2
        Quote: Al_lexx
        Majlis? Ten years ago, he used more than 80% of the support of the Crimean Tatars, now less than 20%, because the Majlis
        it was at the call of this Mejlis that many people came that day and it was at the call of the Mejlis that the Tatars left. They trusted Aksenov’s word that we would leave together. You don’t know the eastern people, for them the word of the headman is the word. Now they were called to remain calm, they save, the Main Konstatinov was unable to make a decision on the separation of the Crimea, and now he talked only about raising the status of the Crimea and the federalization of relations. Yes, and let it be! Everyone will welcome the elevated status of Crimea. But only if it comes to separation, then it will start .. I don’t want to talk at all
    6. dustycat
      dustycat 2 March 2014 21: 07
      0
      Quote: smersh70
      you get anarchy

      No. Well, what did this word "anarchy" do to them?
      There is a proposal to reward a dozen lashes for misuse of the word "anarchy".
      They would understand what it is and when it can be used.
      Anarchy is non-violent power from the bottom.
      And not the lack of power.
    7. Genry
      Genry 2 March 2014 21: 08
      +1
      Dzhamilev is not a Tatar but a Turk. He controls only a small layer of pro-Turkish Tatars. Lost authority after he was noticed in the theft of funds to help the Tatars.
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 2 March 2014 21: 23
        0
        Quote: Genry
        Dzhamilev is not a Tatar but a Turk.
        and the Crimean Tatars are not Turks except))) probably the Germans bully
  11. Net
    Net 2 March 2014 16: 18
    +17
    The Crimean region as part of the Russian Federation - that's what we want. I hope this referendum is only a preparatory stage before returning home. Russia cannot forever help us as a separate state entity. We need a development strategy for the state of the Russian Federation. In our city, a shipyard is in a state of disrepair, at the best of times it employed 15 people, supertankers and military frigates were built. The same "Hetman Sagaidachny" was built here. Russia just lacks shipyards. The Ukrainian state also did not need the Nikolaev shipyards, now they build yachts for the rich instead of aircraft carriers. They failed to dispose of the good - so it's time to take it back.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 2 March 2014 17: 57
      +6
      Quote: Netto
      I hope this referendum is only a preparatory stage

      I don’t know how “in the composition”, but if they achieve at least a change from “autonomous” to “state”, then everything will be a class! Until then ...
      "In Crimea, part of the Ukrainian military took the side of the Crimean authorities, today there are no capable Ukrainian Armed Forces on the peninsula that would be subordinate to Kiev, said First Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the ARC Rustam Temirgaliyev.
      "All military units are blocked, disarmed, a certain part of them went over to the side of the Crimean people and under the Crimean flags they carry out patrols and protect the civilian population of Crimea from armed provocations," the first deputy prime minister explained. He noted that the units of the Crimean defense, together with units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Security Service of Ukraine, as well as with the participation of units of the Black Sea Fleet, organized groups to patrol the main streets and facilities in Crimea. In addition, according to him, it was decided to create a special unit for the protection of public order on the basis of the Crimean "Berkut", which started, together with other law enforcement agencies, as well as units of the Black Sea Fleet, to protect the main objects of the autonomy.
      In Crimea, there are enough forces to provide self-defense units with weapons and uniforms to defend Crimea. Self-defense units will be in full combat readiness to repel possible aggression from the illegitimate Kiev, "Temirgaliev emphasized."
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-140253.html
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 2 March 2014 21: 05
        -1
        Quote: Egoza
        "In Crimea, a part of the Ukrainian military went over to the side of the Crimean authorities
        Yes it is a fairy tale. Just 2 commanders of units, a part of the rear control and the marine, have just spoken, said their word, But here’s for dessert - how the Russian troops are leaving
        1. AVIATOR36662
          AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 22: 29
          0
          If they leave, then this unit is just like a fighting unit! Our guys are polite, not like shepherds in Lvov. They will do their job in battle, without an order they won’t even offend the fly. Do not beasts, as in the west of Ukraine, which, as it turned out, still inherit the genes of Pithecanthropus (or as the primitive man was also called there).
  12. predator.3
    predator.3 2 March 2014 16: 18
    +14
    I don’t know how kindred peoples are the Czechs and Slovaks, well, they divorced quietly peacefully, without fire, Kiev also needs to recognize 9 regions that they are Russian! part of Russia, and go your separate ways, if you want to join the European Union, please, but without Russian regions! (in principle, without them Ukraine needs the EU!) a year later, Ukrainian Gaster will come to Russia!
    1. sapran
      sapran 2 March 2014 16: 21
      -1
      Excuse me, what 9 areas have a pro-Russian focus? (this is not trolling) just if possible, as a percentage, who supports whom in which region?
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      2. atalef
        atalef 2 March 2014 16: 24
        +21
        Quote: sapran
        Excuse me, what 9 areas have a pro-Russian focus? (this is not trolling) just if possible, as a percentage, who supports whom in which region?

        And who cares? Those areas that GDP will choose are those that will have a pro-Russian focus.
        1. TSOOBER
          TSOOBER 2 March 2014 16: 28
          +3
          Koment super-hope so it will be! drinks
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          2. atalef
            atalef 2 March 2014 16: 40
            .
            Quote: TSOOBER
            Koment super-hope so it will be!

            Quote: Riperbahn
            And it pleases! We choose, we are chosen

            I don’t understand your joy about my comment at all, that wasn’t the point.
            The point is that in general no one will look at people living there and will not ask their opinions.
            GDP will decide, so it will be. It certainly warms your ears - but in my opinion the point was to save the Russian-speaking population (no one in general understands what), it has nothing to do with salvation and protection.
            Pure aggression and invasion against a sovereign state.
            Against their half brothers.
            How everyone wants to see the Ukrainians with their arms raised walking in columns of prisoners.
            A shame.
            1. Nekarmadlen
              Nekarmadlen 2 March 2014 16: 43
              +12
              Quote: atalef

              How everyone wants to see the Ukrainians with their arms raised walking in columns of prisoners.
              A shame.



              Here no one even thinks about it.
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 2 March 2014 18: 44
                +4
                Quote: Nekarmadlen
                Here no one even thinks about it.

                According to the uncle, Yalta is also for joining the Russian Federation.
            2. Gregazov
              Gregazov 2 March 2014 17: 00
              +8
              Salvation was required of the Natsiks. They (Yarosh, Tyagnibok) did not hide their intentions to leave only Ukrainians in Ukraine (Ukraine for Ukrainians). If such a slogan sounds in the Palestinian lands, Israel reacts to it much more severely than Putin.
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              2. atalef
                atalef 2 March 2014 17: 09
                -9
                Quote: GregAzov
                and did not hide their intentions to leave only Ukrainians in Ukraine (Ukraine for Ukrainians). If such a slogan sounds in the Palestinian lands, Israel reacts to it much more severely than Putin

                Let's separate the flies from the cutlets. I dare to remind you that over 400 tons of Russian citizens live in Israel and over 1.5 million (out of 7 million) speak Russian.
                It is difficult to find a more anti-Semitic regime than Hamas and hundreds of people (including Russian citizens) died at their hands. So one of the few states that accept Hamas to state. level is Russia.
                Therefore, do not tell me fairy tales.
                I, something in Ukraine (and even more so in Crimea 0 did not see any injured citizen of Russia, I will even say more, the special envoy for human rights in GDP, but I did not find them
                How with double standards?
                1. Gregazov
                  Gregazov 2 March 2014 17: 32
                  +7
                  Therefore, I did not find it, since the troops were brought in. You haven't heard anything about the "train of friendship" either? Or was it necessary to wait for the train to arrive, people were killed, and only then to bring in troops? There is no need to teach us about information war. We remember very well the aggression of Georgia and its coverage in the mass media. Look for double standards there and in the bombing of Syria by the Israeli Air Force. The missiles that allegedly bombed these planes did not fire at Israel, so why didn't you wait?
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 2 March 2014 17: 43
                    -5
                    Quote: GregAzov
                    ... You haven't heard anything about the "train of friendship" either?

                    I heard, but for some reason no one saw him

                    Quote: GregAzov
                    Double standards look there and in the bombing of Syria by the Israeli Air Force

                    laughed - on
                  2. atalef
                    atalef 2 March 2014 17: 43
                    -3
                    Quote: GregAzov
                    ... You haven't heard anything about the "train of friendship" either?

                    I heard, but for some reason no one saw him

                    Quote: GregAzov
                    Double standards look there and in the bombing of Syria by the Israeli Air Force

                    laughed - on
                2. Rebus
                  Rebus 2 March 2014 17: 53
                  +4
                  Quote: atalef
                  I, something in Ukraine (and especially in the Crimea 0 did not see any injured citizen of Russia

                  Must people suffer? Russian troops can (I emphasize can, but not entered) be introduced into the territory of Ukraine to protect the population, whether it be Ukrainians or Russians, while citizenship does not matter.
                  Warning your sarcasm, I’ll say that the Russian troops in the Crimea are there in accordance with the international agreement between Ukraine and Russia on the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy.
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 2 March 2014 20: 54
                    -2
                    Quote: Rebus
                    Must people suffer?

                    Actually --- YES. In order to protect someone - he must at least suffer. There was no injured victim in Crimea, and it couldn’t be.

                    Quote: Rebus
                    Russian troops can (I emphasize can, but not entered) be introduced,

                    Well, you’re not working in ITAR TASS, at least you’re not lying to yourself.

                    Quote: Rebus
                    to protect the population, be it Ukrainians or Russians, citizenship is not important.

                    And to protect from whom? By the way, a very interesting defense is to block the army of the state (it seems that they are attacking Crimeans). In this case, pass out passports. Who do you excuse the tanks are driving

                    Quote: Rebus
                    Warning your sarcasm, I’ll say that the Russian troops in the Crimea are there in accordance with the international agreement between Ukraine and Russia on the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Navy.

                    Blocking the Ukrainian army. By the way, 3 lines above you said that troops can only be entered.
                    Well, then I don’t need to be considered a moron.
                    1. AVIATOR36662
                      AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 22: 40
                      0
                      And the hat on the thief is always on fire. So yours: "None of the Russians in the Crimea have suffered" - a provocation of pure water. Like three brothers-acrobats from the Maidan: "Sign the agreement under our word of honor and the word of respected Westerners." And they will not comply with it, their word of honor, legally certified (the agreement is a legal document, even illiterate people know this). So for now, just block it, although the brave Ukrainian guys got rid of everything because of this, like the brave Georgians in their time.
                3. Klim2011
                  Klim2011 2 March 2014 18: 52
                  +3
                  Do you think that Russia had to wait for the concentration camps for Russians in Ukraine?
                  It is not for you, as a representative of the long-suffering people, to be tolerant of the manifestations of Nazism!
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 2 March 2014 20: 55
                    -2
                    Quote: Klim2011
                    Do you think that Russia had to wait for the concentration camps for Russians in Ukraine?

                    \ Why are you sure that they would be?
                4. INVESTOR
                  INVESTOR 2 March 2014 19: 42
                  +1
                  A dog went ... we’ll figure it out without you.
                5. dustycat
                  dustycat 2 March 2014 21: 29
                  0
                  Quote: atalef
                  I, something in Ukraine (and even more so in Crimea 0 did not see any injured citizen of Russia, I will even say more, the Special Envoy for Human Rights at GDP, but I didn’t find them


                  You still declare that the Holocaust in Germany in 1939 was not in Czechoslovakia.
                  There, too, at first there seemed to be no casualties among the Jews.
                  There were already pogroms.
                  In Lviv, in Zhytomyr.
                  Moreover, the victims of these pogroms did not receive permission to take refuge in Poland, Hungary and Romania, and therefore they had to flee to Russia.
                  There are few of them, no more than a couple of dozen, but already exist.
                  Hamas also once started with the rhetoric with which Yatsenyuk and the company are now shining.
                  Do you want the same in Ukraine ??
            3. Al_lexx
              Al_lexx 2 March 2014 17: 36
              +10
              Quote: atalef
              How everyone wants to see the Ukrainians with their arms raised walking in columns of prisoners.

              We don’t want to see the Russians and your brother Jews, in the Indian season, with shot heads.
              Think about this before writing all sorts of rubbish about occupation. wink
              1. atalef
                atalef 2 March 2014 20: 58
                -1
                Quote: Al_lexx
                We don’t want to see the Russians and your brother Jews, in the Indian season, with shot heads.

                To date, only 2 places with anti-Semitic inscriptions have been recorded in Ukraine (believe Israel monitors these things) - oddly enough, only in Simferopol and Kharkov.
                It’s even strange, like there are unknown armed people intended to protect the population.
                On the morning of Friday, February 28, unknown persons left the inscription "Death to the Jews", swastikas and the symbol of the radical organization "Patriot of Ukraine" at the main entrance of the reformist synagogue "Ner-Tamid" in Simferopol. The head of the Association of Jewish Communities of Crimea Anatoly Gendin noted in this regard that this is the first incident of this kind in the last 20 years.
                Source: http://jtimes.ru/news/russia/5353-na-dveryakh-sinagogi-v-simferopole-poyavilas-n
                adpis-smert-zhidam
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                2. user1212
                  user1212 3 March 2014 07: 06
                  0
                  We demand the ban UNA-UNSO, IN "Freedom", SNA, "Right Sector", "Trident", "Patriot of Ukraine", "White Hammer"

                  The full text of the decision of the Lugansk Regional Council on no confidence in the central authorities of Ukraine
                  http://my-life.ua/blog_post/novosti_dnya/297

                  People in Crimea are against such organizations

                  Therefore, it is strange to see how you protect the frostbitten fascists who write "Death to the Jews"
                3. Al_lexx
                  Al_lexx 4 March 2014 16: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  To date, only 2 places with anti-Semitic inscriptions have been recorded in Ukraine (believe Israel monitors these things) - oddly enough, only in Simferopol and Kharkov.

                  Do you want to wait for the mass ...?
                  Well then, you, your own MASSAD, should be banned in real life, in full.

                  What stupidity ...?
                  Do you remember that you were burned in the camps? And try to strain the cerebellum, why? And I will answer you. Because you, in its mass, did not want to protect yourself.

                  Forgive me the Jews, to whom I am very good, as well as to any people.
            4. SkiF_RnD
              SkiF_RnD 2 March 2014 18: 22
              +4
              How everyone wants to see the Ukrainians with their arms raised walking in columns of prisoners.


              When you see, then write. If you see. So far, your masterpiece is just a provocation.
              1. atalef
                atalef 2 March 2014 20: 59
                0
                Quote: SkiF_RnD
                How everyone wants to see the Ukrainians with their arms raised walking in columns of prisoners.


                When you see, then write. If you see. So far, your masterpiece is just a provocation.

                So when you see at least one Crimean victim, then enter - otherwise it is .... as you said, a provocation.
                1. Al_lexx
                  Al_lexx 3 March 2014 01: 21
                  +1
                  Quote: atalef
                  Quote: SkiF_RnD
                  How everyone wants to see the Ukrainians with their arms raised walking in columns of prisoners.


                  When you see, then write. If you see. So far, your masterpiece is just a provocation.

                  So when you see at least one Crimean victim, then enter - otherwise it is .... as you said, a provocation.

                  So when you are the president of Crimea, then you will give instructions on what to enter and what not to enter. wink

                  No one seems to be building you here. Why are you on business? As I understand it, Tel Aviv should be the last to be interested in the situation in Ukraine. Certainly not the first. What a wacky way to teach strangers how and when to whom to fuck? am
            5. user1212
              user1212 2 March 2014 19: 13
              +4
              Quote: atalef
              The point is that in general no one will look at people living there and will not ask their opinions.

              On March 30, do not start a referendum in the Crimea?
              Quote: atalef
              nobody in general understands what

              In my opinion, you are one of the few here who does not understand. As Hamas fires at you, so the Israeli army is fighting terrorism. As the "right sector" shoots at unarmed cops, so the "peaceful demonstrators". A week ago, Kiev threatened with the help of the army to disperse anti-Maidan rallies in Crimea
              Quote: atalef
              Pure aggression and invasion against a sovereign state.

              Where exactly did they invade and who? To Crimea? We have been there since the 18th century.
              Quote: atalef
              Against their half brothers.

              Sashko Bily is not our brother
              Quote: atalef
              How everyone wants to see the Ukrainians with their arms raised walking in columns of prisoners.

              With this bullshit on CNN
              1. AVIATOR36662
                AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 22: 48
                +1
                I will gladly support you, but as a result it turns out that the Russians have been in Crimea for more than one millennium. So the truth should be on our side, if VVP does not surrender the Russians, like Yanukovych does his "Berkut". I invite you to watch all the films on history (Nosovsky and someone else, I don't remember). So that is why we (Russians) and are afraid at the genetic level, that we kept the whole world in a fist.
            6. kirieeleyson
              kirieeleyson 2 March 2014 20: 50
              +2
              Quote: atalef
              How everyone wants to see the Ukrainians with their arms raised walking in columns of prisoners.
              A shame.

              Some kind of crap. People ask for protection, does 145000 refugees not say anything? They’re running not in the EU, as we see, but in the Russian Federation. It would be a shame if, with our tacit consent, the fascists staged another genocide.
            7. dustycat
              dustycat 2 March 2014 21: 19
              0
              Quote: atalef
              The point is that in general no one will look at people living there and will not ask their opinions.


              Name a more or less "developed state" of the world in which the opinions of people living there are interested?
              Especially in the post-socialist space.
              Democracy is one way of subjugating the majority by a minority.
              It all depends on who controls the media and what the media are rubbing on the majority.
            8. muhomor
              muhomor 3 March 2014 01: 09
              0
              How? already an invasion and war! Who was captured?
        2. Riperbahn
          Riperbahn 2 March 2014 16: 34
          +2
          And it pleases! We choose, we are chosen :)))
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        4. skifd
          skifd 2 March 2014 18: 23
          +3
          Quote: atalef
          And who cares? Those areas that GDP will choose are those that will have a pro-Russian focus.


          I understood the meaning of your comment, so I enjoyed it.
          Just unexpectedly for "your causticity" the comment received a double meaning, which the people liked.
          As the saying goes, "watch out for the sting." You will bite yourself.
      3. predator.3
        predator.3 2 March 2014 16: 35
        +8
        Quote: sapran
        Excuse me, what 9 areas have a pro-Russian focus? (this is not trolling) just if possible, as a percentage, who supports whom in which region?

        These are dark green!
        1. sapran
          sapran 2 March 2014 16: 43
          +3
          I’ll print it out ... and this is probably from another reality http://censor.net.ua/news/273719/15_tysyach_jiteleyi_dnepropetrovska_vyshli_na_v
          eche_putin_get_idet_massovaya_zapis_v_voenkomat
          and in Odessa http://glavnoe.ua/news/n167629
          1. Genry
            Genry 2 March 2014 21: 17
            0
            censor_net_ua is a completely discredited publication.

            Note: "The process of cleaning media according to Goebbels' recipes"
            http://anna-news.info/node/13718
        2. gfs84
          gfs84 2 March 2014 16: 48
          +3
          The Russian newspaper closed a separate branch devoted to events in Ukraine, only events in the world remained ...
          In my opinion, it is very significant (the newspaper is then a government one) ...
          1. gfs84
            gfs84 2 March 2014 17: 49
            +1
            And now in Kiev they wanted to talk ....

            The Ukrainian side is ready to create a negotiation group with the leadership of the Russian Federation to resolve the situation, said the leader of the Freedom Party Oleg Tyagnibok. “Today they decided on the need to create a negotiation group with the leadership of the Russian Federation to resolve this conflict, but, in fact, Russia speaks only with those who are strong, Russia does not speak with weaklings, and Russia is squeezing weaklings. Therefore, the Ukrainian armed forces are being put on high alert, ”Oleg Tyagnibok told reporters after the March 2 parliamentary meeting, commenting on the decisions adopted by the Verkhovna Rada. However, he focused on the fact that society should be prepared for any development of events, but not panic. “Ukrainian society should be prepared for any possible scenarios for the development of the situation. We must be aware that now we should in no case sow panic, ”Interfax quoted Oleg Tyagnibok as saying.
            1. gfs84
              gfs84 2 March 2014 18: 47
              +1
              And about. Head of State Alexander Turchinov fired the post of Governor of the Donetsk Region Andrei Shishatsky and appointed businessman Sergey Taratuta to this post. Alexander Turchinov also replaced the head of the Dnipropetrovsk regional administration: he dismissed Dmitry Kolesnikov and appointed the Ukrainian businessman Igor Kolomoisky to this position, Interfax reports on March 2.

              What interesting people are appointed to leadership positions ...
              All with money ...
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        4. siberalt
          siberalt 2 March 2014 16: 51
          +1
          Now the main thing is to defend the Crimea and our Black Sea Fleet. The rest will follow.
          1. carver
            carver 3 March 2014 16: 51
            0
            Quote: siberalt
            sibiralt Yesterday, 16:51 ↑
            Now the main thing is to defend the Crimea and our Black Sea Fleet. The rest will follow.


            And the rest in the furnace fascists? Nooo finish to the complete self-government of the east and Odessa at least it is necessary.
        5. Capyar 48315
          Capyar 48315 2 March 2014 17: 01
          +1
          it reminds you know the map after the Brest-Litovsk world. THE COMPONENTS UNDERSTAND UNDERSTANDING AND IN THE BEST TIME, IT ISN’T WORTH TO MAKE A MOUTH INTO ARTICALLY RUSSIAN
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  13. slavik_gross
    slavik_gross 2 March 2014 16: 21
    +5
    The deputy of the "Fatherland" Grigory Nemyrya excludes the possibility of signing an agreement with NATO on military assistance in the coming days during the conflict with Russia. He said this on the sidelines of the parliament, reports the correspondent of UNN. He explained that NATO troops will not help Ukraine, since it is not a member of the organization.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 2 March 2014 16: 30
      +4
      Quote: slavik_gross
      The deputy of "Fatherland" Grigory Nemyrya excludes the possibility of signing an agreement with NATO on military assistance in the coming days during the conflict with Russia

      As they say, dreaming is not harmful.
      NATO will not get in with us butting, since this is almost the 100% nuclear conflict. Moreover, Europe will be the first to get under the whip. With a big jerk, from such a prospect (all the same, do not throw tomahawks in the Papuans), Europe, in order to dissociate itself and just save itself, would brand America with any disgrace if it comes up with a similar initiative at NATO headquarters. So, in this case, NATO = USA, well, maybe even Canada. Australia can try to pull up. Again, the missile defense of the Americans is still not at that stage of the battlefield to rule out unacceptable damage.
      No, it’s not rolling.
      1. dustycat
        dustycat 2 March 2014 21: 37
        0
        Quote: Al_lexx
        Again, the missile defense of the Americans is still not at that stage of the BG, which would exclude unacceptable damage.

        And even if it is completely ready, do you think the damage from 10% of the Russian warheads that broke through would damage Europe?
  14. Karabin
    Karabin 2 March 2014 16: 23
    +4
    I am very sorry that respected politicians in Kiev decided to solve their problems with the help of this terrible force.

    What are they, then, dear?
    We will raise the question of changing the autonomous status of Crimea to state.

    A little to raise the question of joining Russia?
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 17: 03
      +2
      The question is absolutely topical, but a little inconsistent. The idea must ripen! Although in this case it is long overripe, all the same, such matters are decided sequentially. Like classes at school.
  15. Tatarus
    Tatarus 2 March 2014 16: 25
    +1
    I don’t remember where ...

    Crimea Island, Crimea Island.
    You have always been family.
  16. Russ69
    Russ69 2 March 2014 16: 27
    +2
    Quote: slavik_gross
    that NATO troops will not help Ukraine, since it is not a member of the organization.

    They, what they thought, NATO will rush to save their asses ...
    Well, except that statements and stealth moral support ...
  17. Mails
    Mails 2 March 2014 16: 29
    +7
    Quote: Al_lexx
    I think that certain US sanctions, we can’t avoid. Those. it will be some elements of the economic blockade.



    To sleep ....
    Can you imagine stopping the sale of the iPhone 5 and iPad ...
    I lose sales I don’t know what to do ... well then we will do without these toys ...
    What a horror, a nightmare is simple!

    This is not democratic !!!! tongue belay


    soldier
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 2 March 2014 16: 42
      +1
      And "Bush's legs" will be banned from selling ... Yes, that will be strong, of course! tongue
      1. Commodus
        Commodus 2 March 2014 17: 00
        +1
        Duc Chinese iPhones are of course worse in quality, but cheaper than 3-4 times. The big problem in the other is just quiet, I didn't say with a porn it will become worse nova from zhmeriki will become possibly less if the channels are blocked, but shhh ...
    2. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 2 March 2014 16: 48
      +1
      I don’t understand, emoticons, humor, etc. But ... Don’t write shkolotnye nonsense. You are welcome. The topic is serious, but you all laugh * chki.

      America buys metals and other raw materials from us. We buy food from them and not only. In the details of the turnover is not strong, but it is not small. In addition, it will certainly put pressure on other countries to adopt sanctions. We forgot how they and the Saudis brought down oil and gas prices in the 80's, and our entire economy rolled into the ass.
      I’m not really hysterical, but I don’t think that this problem should be underestimated. On the other hand, we have no choice.
      Read Dugin, finally ... he recently quite clearly expressed himself practically sweat to all current issues. Here, on the resource slipped somewhere.




      ZY
      And we can pick up apple products directly in China. laughing
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 2 March 2014 17: 51
        0
        The minus members woke up. laughing

        Putting a minus is easier than straining the gray matter and admitting your mistake. Anyway... smile
        1. dustycat
          dustycat 2 March 2014 21: 45
          0
          In general, due to the situation in the SGA economy, the volume of purchases from Russia directly to the SGA fell below the baseboard.
          But then the volume of purchases of raw materials to China increased.
          And under-procured grain in Ukraine, China must buy somewhere. And the rise in grain prices in Siberia already shows where this will be done.
          On the other hand, any embargo against Russia from the SGA will lead to the very redirection of the Russian economy from the oil and gas part of budget revenues to other sources of income. Moreover, the sale of property is no longer relevant - it will not be able to solve the budget problems of Russia in the regime of the embargo from the SGA.
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  20. shelva
    shelva 2 March 2014 16: 32
    +1
    It’s too tough for any soft-bodied bastards of Sevastopol, if they still do not understand this - their misfortune.
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  22. fregina1
    fregina1 2 March 2014 16: 36
    +2
    They are NATO in this form and why the heck are not needed !!! They cherish your ass !!!!! They are ready to bomb a slav, but Sevastopol is weak to bomb! Because the bombers definitely will not return! Heroes of Sailors and Rogalsky are dumb there!
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  24. siberalt
    siberalt 2 March 2014 16: 36
    +6
    Crimea is finally lost for Ukraine already in fact. And without Crimea, the interest of the West in the region will sharply decrease.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/165/ilme104.jpg
    1. sapran
      sapran 2 March 2014 16: 45
      -6
      100% Crimea already lost ... Southeast on the way ..- TROUBLE!
      1. Duke
        Duke 2 March 2014 17: 26
        +4
        But you didn’t acquire Crimea. It was always Russian in spirit.
      2. Nekarmadlen
        Nekarmadlen 2 March 2014 19: 56
        +4
        Quote: sapran
        100% Crimea already lost ... Southeast on the way ..- TROUBLE!


        You, probably, as captain Vrungel, two letters in the name of the yacht fell off? VICTORY!
      3. ymNIK1970
        ymNIK1970 3 March 2014 00: 02
        +1
        Victory. Russian spirit victory!
  25. kirqiz ssr
    kirqiz ssr 2 March 2014 16: 38
    +1
    guys I do not want a war I want peace let them agree if there is a war like in Georgia it will not work there will be a collapse for the Russian Federation you need to think with emotion and reasonably talk about what will happen
    1. AVIATOR36662
      AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 23: 01
      +1
      Of course they’ll agree, it’s just that real men will be completely bored and uninteresting without war. What is the collapse of the Russian Federation? Are you kidding, not otherwise? For 20 years we have been training in the Caucasus, why do you think it is going? So the time has come for the exam, 08.08.08g. Everything will be as planned above, everything will work out with us.
  26. RUSS
    RUSS 2 March 2014 16: 41
    +1
    Quote: gfs84
    They have already used their most formidable weapon against us ...)))

    Lithuania decided to recall its ambassador to Russia, Renatas Norkus, for consultations. It is reported by Delfi.lt. The corresponding decision was made on March 2.

    The recall of the diplomat, as Interfax reports with reference to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the republic, is associated with "Russia's actions against the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Ukraine."


    These are "fleas that once again want to bite us", now they will start yapping with foam at the mouth about aggression, when these "sprats" will choke on their saliva!
  27. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 2 March 2014 16: 43
    +5
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: sapran
    Excuse me, what 9 areas have a pro-Russian focus? (this is not trolling) just if possible, as a percentage, who supports whom in which region?

    And who cares? Those areas that GDP will choose are those that will have a pro-Russian focus.

    GDP is doing everything right and will not take too much. And to drive all the Maidan there - closer to Transcarpathia. They will resist - help with tanks and bulldozers. After that, set up the cordons and let them pull this territory into parts Poland, Hungary, etc. neighbors.
  28. s1н7т
    s1н7т 2 March 2014 16: 45
    +5
    I don’t understand - what kind of special powers are the Crimean Tatars except equal to everyone ?! Flirt this way? Poorly. Will not bring to good.
  29. RUSS
    RUSS 2 March 2014 16: 46
    +1
    Quote: gfs84
    These are such terrible American sanctions ...

    The United States suspended participation in preparations for the G8 summit, due to take place in Sochi on June 4-5. This is stated in a White House press release following a conversation between US President Barack Obama and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin.

    And in the wake of them ...

    French authorities have suspended preparations for the G2014 summit to be held in Sochi in June 2. On Sunday, March XNUMX, reports Agence France-Presse.


    Of course, we will not be upset, but they should not want in Sochi there is now spring in full swing, warm and sunny. They pouted their lips like little children - "I neither want nor will."
    1. gfs84
      gfs84 2 March 2014 16: 52
      +1
      Well, they just stopped, until June, oh, how far ... They'll see what will happen in Kiev, or WHERE Kiev will be ... You look there and continue to prepare ...
  30. Boris55
    Boris55 2 March 2014 16: 48
    +3
    As a result of all this mess, Crimea will take on so much sovereignty that it had never dreamed of before.
    In fact, now Crimea is an independent state with its own government and law enforcement agencies not yet subordinate to anyone from outside.
    1. s1н7т
      s1н7т 2 March 2014 16: 54
      +3
      Quote: Boris55
      In fact, now Crimea is an independent state with its government and power structures not yet subordinate to anyone

      God bless them to keep all this! There is still a joke highlighted - with its actions, the West, in fact, has done everything to violate the agreement on the preservation of borders, and even not in its favor! laughing
    2. s1н7т
      s1н7т 2 March 2014 16: 54
      0
      Quote: Boris55
      In fact, now Crimea is an independent state with its government and power structures not yet subordinate to anyone

      God bless them to keep all this! There is still a joke highlighted - with its actions, the West, in fact, has done everything to violate the agreement on the preservation of borders, and even not in its favor! laughing
  31. repytw
    repytw 2 March 2014 16: 49
    +2
    Quote: smersh70
    Quote: vostok1982
    We are ready to offer the Crimean Tatars those powers that they never had (before)

    Tatars will never agree. Here is their answer - To date, in the Crimea, unlike Kiev, Tatars men have not yet gathered in groups to mobilize. The chairman of the Crimean Majlis, Mustafa Dzhemilev, said this on the sidelines of the parliament, the Pressorg correspondent http://pressorg24.com reports.
    "Of course, we can also announce mobilization, like the Right Sector in Kiev, and create our own detachments, but they will not be legal from the point of view of the state. Therefore, we say that it will be necessary to enroll in the paramilitary military structures of the state, that is, in After all, if in Crimea the Crimean Tatars begin to create their own detachments, and the Russians and other nationalities - their own, then anarchy will result, "he said.
    M. Dzhemilev emphasized that the units should have their uniforms and legal weapons, relevant certificates.
    To clarification of the journalists regarding the methods of protecting the Crimean Tatars in the situation regarding the aggression of Russia, M. Dzhemilev noted: “This will depend on the methods that Russia will use. we will answer in a different way. "



    Dzhemilev speaks so patronizingly and cunningly, without saying "no" and without saying "yes", they do not want and will not fight. They have already explained what will happen if they rock the boat.
  32. chisya
    chisya 2 March 2014 16: 50
    .
    If Crimea wants to be with Russia, good luck. But you are hoping for the eastern regions in vain. Now in Kharkov, Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk rallies against Russian aggression. I talked with Kharkovites, whom I know, nobody wants to be part of Russia, to be a friendly country, but no more, and the latest events in Crimea, when your military blocks our units that do not want to give up ... in general, that's sad.

    Where the military surrendered, your "peacekeepers" smashed all the equipment, removed the weapons depots.

    In general, the guys are not fraternally your looting. Many who were for Russia have already thought about whether it is necessary. Well, then you watch the first channel and think about how they are waiting for you here.

    The fact that some people hung a flag on the ODA yesterday does not mean anything. People gathered yesterday to give pussies to visitors, because they tried to establish their own rules, and not to see Russian tanks in their city. We ourselves are able to solve our problems and you were not invited here.

    Crimea is another matter, if there is such support there, then of course let them separate, why torment people. The guys from Vinnitsa said if your peacekeepers in the Crimea shoot our border guards, they will volunteer against Russia. In Kharkov, the people will not fight against Russia, but honestly did not expect that the time would come when the Russians would kill the Russians.

    America already offers weapons to fight with Russia to provide, a complete ass. Why bring this up? After all, there are those who wish. We in the east will still accept this spit from the fraternal country, but the center is unlikely.
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 2 March 2014 16: 58
      +4
      Quote: chisya
      Where the military surrendered, your "peacekeepers" smashed all the equipment, removed the weapons depots.

      I do not understand, the Russian army is already advancing? and which cities we have already taken - explain. Can not? - then do not kick!
      1. chisya
        chisya 2 March 2014 17: 06
        -8
        In Crimea, military units that surrendered. All weapons were taken out of them. In terms of air defense, they defeated all the equipment. Of course you will not be told about this. Now several parts are blocked, the people have become a living chain between ours and yours.

        And in this tone, communicate with your friends. It’s not necessary with me.
        1. Boris55
          Boris55 2 March 2014 17: 10
          +3
          Quote: chisya
          And in this tone, communicate with your friends. It’s not necessary with me.

          The US State Department cannot confirm from independent sources reports of a Russian invasion of Crimea, a spokeswoman for the department, Jennifer Psaki, said at a press conference.
          "We have no independent confirmation of the information that I could share with you," she said, answering a question from a journalist.

          http://hronika.info/mir/16024-v-ssha-ne-schitayut-chto-rossiyskie-voyska-vtorgli
          s-na-territoriyu-ukrainy.html

          I assure you, if Russia is an example of a solution, it will do it openly!

          .
          1. chisya
            chisya 2 March 2014 17: 16
            -1
            Quote: Boris55
            I assure you, if Russia is an example of a solution, it will do it openly!


            Guys do not get it wrong, I want Russia to be on good terms with us, but if our guys die in these provocations, no matter what their views are, these are my compatriots, even if they are mistaken, let them brainwash, it does not matter. And here is the choice either they or you.
            1. Tatarus
              Tatarus 2 March 2014 17: 40
              +5
              Where were you when the warrior
              Quote: chisya
              our guys will die
              did this happen in Kiev? Maidanil probably quietly handle the right
              1. chisya
                chisya 2 March 2014 17: 46
                0
                This is the internal affairs of the state, if the asshole of the guarantor, with full power and control over everything, that could not have the decisiveness and intelligence to resolve the situation, where does the people have to?

                Should I go to the Maidan and disperse Bandera? Why then should I pay taxes to the police and military units? Everyone must do their job. Otherwise, it is anarchy.
                1. AVIATOR36662
                  AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 23: 08
                  +1
                  With such a psychology, you will surely wipe your homeland. Do not remember the school verses "You will die for good reason! It's solid when blood flows under it!" Is this your homeland ?! Or do you have another homeland? Or since there is no king, then there is no homeland? Are you an anarchist individualist or are you entitled to a white ticket?
              2. chisya
                chisya 2 March 2014 17: 49
                -1
                Quote: Tatarus
                Maidanil probably quietly handle the right


                It is a pleasure to communicate with you. Probably in Russia with culture and education is even worse than ours.
                1. Tatarus
                  Tatarus 2 March 2014 18: 14
                  0
                  Mutually, oddly enough hi
                2. AVIATOR36662
                  AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 23: 11
                  0
                  I will not be alarmed, but how are things with education in Russia - just look on the Internet at the world ranking of universities on the Internet. Normal with education.
            2. Manul
              Manul 3 March 2014 14: 04
              0
              Quote: chisya
              our guys will die

              Your guys are the Golden Eagles, whom you unarmed burned alive and were the first to fire live ammunition on them. We don’t need to rub, about your one people. You play the Cossack robbers .. And others want to live. Here the robbers need to be eliminated, but normal help people. Who do you relate to? And who are you helping?
              Your brainwashed brains shine with such purity that it hurts to watch. There is only one, but crystal clear thought: "we need independence from hostile Russia."
        2. sergey32
          sergey32 2 March 2014 17: 48
          +1
          Yes, everything is done correctly by our military, they are insured. From the Ukrainians in the last 20 years there have been shots at our soldiers and downed planes. So do not exact.
          1. chisya
            chisya 2 March 2014 17: 52
            0
            From the point of view of the task, it is certainly correct. But this, as it is now fashionable to say, legally the territory of another state. As soon as then live in friendship and harmony. Maybe it suits Crimeans. But the local military, too, are Crimeans.
            1. dzau
              dzau 3 March 2014 01: 27
              +1
              Quote: chisya
              From the point of view of the task, it is certainly correct. But this, as it is now fashionable to say, legally the territory of another state. As soon as then live in friendship and harmony. Maybe it suits Crimeans. But the local military, too, are Crimeans.

              You are writing nonsense. Understand a simple thing: in the 90s, a single ethnic massif was artificially torn apart. To bend over and have. If you (and you communicate in Russian - only for this I give myself the trouble to write it) correlate yourself with this people, then what is ***, forgive me, "legally the territory of another state"? What are the *** "Crimeans"? Have you invented a new subspecies of the nation?

              I’ll tell you even more: there is no such nation “Ukrainian”, in the proper sense of the word “nation”. Until recently, there were more differences between the dialects of northwestern, central and southern France than between Russian, Ukrainian and Belarusian (by the way, any Russian, by the way, having never studied a language, understands "Ukrainian" at the level of fluently chattering speakers).

              The same goes for Germany. Partly Spain and Italy. But the people: French, German, Spanish and Italian. Not Gascon and Provencal.

              The emphasis on the "Ukrainian" (with the emphasis on "not Russian") people is needed for the sole purpose of breaking a large, resilient and thus dangerous mass of people into pieces. And that is why the whole world will now intensely scream about "sovereign Ukraine" and "Ukrainian people". We would have died of hunger - in units sovereign from each other - they would have had nothing to do: the main thing is separately.

              I note from myself: myself from Siberia. Grandfather is a Belarusian. Grandfather's sons and brothers - partly at home, partly in Ukraine, where they already have grandchildren who grew up there, partly in Russia. On the other line - cousins ​​- also in Ukraine, including those with whom he grew up. Families still communicate. Languages ​​are spoken by Ukrainian, Russian, and Belarusian.

              So, WHAT is *** legally the territory of another state? Why and who on *** needs it?
          2. AVIATOR36662
            AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 23: 19
            +1
            It was a deal! Our TU22M3 teammate from Stryisky ZR blocked up our house and got a house for it. Everyone chooses his own path in this life.
        3. UzRus
          UzRus 2 March 2014 17: 53
          0
          You certainly will not be told about this - That already has such infa on some resources about the export of weapons from surrendered units. And on YouTube there is a video from Sevastopol, where the local military did not allow to take out weapons from their unit. And the comments from Ukrainian users are not very flattering, such as "they shoveled the ka.ts.a.py", "well, cho ate a hrenorashka", etc. This is very bad ...
          1. chisya
            chisya 2 March 2014 17: 58
            +2
            Well, I’m telling you, not everything is so simple, except for Crimea there is no such strong support for the population. Maybe Donetsk and Lugansk, I do not know about them. The same Kherson, Sumy also rose to a rally against aggression.

            I just don’t understand, maybe they decided that Crimea is enough, such actions very much spoiled the attitude of those masses who were neutral towards Russia.
            1. frol
              frol 2 March 2014 19: 20
              +7
              Those masses, Chesik, simply do not know what will happen to them when Western puppets are in power. In Latvia, too, from the beginning "we will all live together in a little Latvia", and then 300 thousand non-citizens and then a suitcase-station- Russia.
    2. UzRus
      UzRus 2 March 2014 17: 07
      +4
      We ourselves are able to solve our problems and you were not invited here. - And cho, is someone already breaking into your East? It seems that you did not ask for help from Russia like the Crimea, why are you afraid of something?
      1. chisya
        chisya 2 March 2014 17: 13
        -2
        Quote: UzRus
        We ourselves are able to solve our problems and you were not invited here. - And cho, is someone already breaking into your East? It seems that you did not ask for help from Russia like the Crimea, why are you afraid of something?


        We are not afraid, since we won’t go to war against Russia, you are very close to us. It’s just unpleasant that you are told on the news how much Kharkov wants to Russia. And no matter how this served as an occasion.
        1. UzRus
          UzRus 2 March 2014 17: 59
          -1
          It’s just unpleasant that you are told on the news how much Kharkov wants to Russia. And no matter how this served as an occasion. - Well, about the fact that Kharkov does not want to be part of the Russian Federation, it is necessary for your officials to publicly declare officially, otherwise it really creates a feeling that the East is tearing into the Russian Federation.
          1. chisya
            chisya 2 March 2014 18: 03
            +1
            Our officials are thinking how to save the loot. Where the wind blows, there they are. Now it’s a feint from the new government, they are appointing East billionaire heads of local ODA to keep the regions from different provocations.
            1. UzRus
              UzRus 2 March 2014 18: 20
              +1
              Our officials are thinking how to save the loot. “I don’t even know what to say to you!” Although, what if officially the same billionaires say they will be robbed of their loot? And who will deprive? Well, on the contrary, they will be delighted in Kiev!
        2. Ermak
          Ermak 2 March 2014 18: 19
          +2
          Yes, nobody seems to be going to the east .. and nobody wants to shoot your border guards, they’d like to storm it right away, they understand everything ... they’re just blocking, what else do we have in these circumstances?
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    3. old rats
      old rats 2 March 2014 18: 12
      +8
      So I understand that no one else pulls the rest of the Russian-speaking Ukrainian regions to Russia, there are no peacekeepers anywhere except Crimea. The manual looks at your reaction. Not like that and goodbye.
      Only now in Belgorod a large number of Ukrainians. Nobody really calls them refugees yet. They come mainly to relatives, and even to distant ones, whom they have not seen for many years. And, of course, an indefinite period remains. I think many will stay for a long time. in the Kursk region the same picture.
      I suppose that real estate prices will creep up (and they are not low in Belgorod anyway), salaries in the region will go down (since there are a lot of people who are ready to work for anything).
      Yes! Well, personal, my joy, my mother-in-law moves from Mirgorod to me!
      further, I suspect, will be even more fun.
      And all this happens, including because you neighbors from Kharkov have chewed snot for three months.
      And now they are offended you see. Yeah.
      And how central Ukraine will react to me deeply sideways.

      PS For mother-in-law special thanks.
      1. chisya
        chisya 2 March 2014 18: 21
        +2
        Refugees, it’s understandable, the people are scared. Mobilization is announced throughout the country. Odessa receives the agenda already in full. In Kharkov, I have not yet heard that they start massively calling on everyone.

        This is the whole problem, and not that Russia will come tomorrow. You never mind what comes to mind to our new authorities. If not everyone surrendered in Crimea, then here it is even more so. People are really afraid that there will be an order from our new authorities to beat off the Crimea. And they will go. Yanukovych is no one here, no matter how legitimate he is. He betrayed his people, his voters and defenders.
        1. typhoon7
          typhoon7 2 March 2014 21: 44
          0
          To you the US Marines are calmly rolling the rod and not any shouts: "occupation", another 600 are on the way. Where is your patriotism?
      2. Ermak
        Ermak 2 March 2014 18: 21
        +2
        Yes, with a mother-in-law garbage turned out ....))))
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    4. Kovlad
      Kovlad 2 March 2014 18: 19
      +4
      The words of a rational person. Sincere respect: But let me express my opinion: Ukraine is of no value to the EU, but by bringing the Nazis to power and supporting the mess in Ukraine, they set out to destabilize the situation in Ukraine and the Russian Federation. verge of war. Agree, Ukraine is an extra parasite in the EU, they have enough of their own, Greece, for example, and others. And they don’t give a damn about your country, that's why they brought the Browns to power and support them. The main thing for them is to undermine our relations. And, God grant, that there would be no war between us! With Sincere Regards, Constantine.
    5. Navy7981
      Navy7981 2 March 2014 18: 32
      +2
      And who promises them to join Russia? They can be an independent state, friendly towards Russia. They have what Russia needs and vice versa. And Russia is simply "Krysha" which will not allow them to be bullied. Yes, and it is probably more profitable for us to have a friendly territory near our borders.
      1. chisya
        chisya 2 March 2014 18: 37
        +2
        They are 80% subsidized. If they separate, Russia will have to pay for them and pay a lot. The new authorities seem to have requested $ 5 billion in assistance if rumors do not lie. What is the meaning of such an operation, if not taken into Russia?
        1. AVIATOR36662
          AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 23: 29
          +1
          And the meaning is extremely simple, like a day. It is better to pay a friend than to spend on a war with an enemy. And from Crimea you can make a super-profitable region in general, only a good business executive is needed, and not the last thieves like all the top in Ukraine. I apologize, but this is so. And there are many business executives in Russia who will invest in Sochi. “Associate professor will force!” He also forced all officials to return their accounts to Russia from abroad, so everything will be fine.
    6. Klim2011
      Klim2011 2 March 2014 19: 03
      +2
      Drop emotions and which information speculation is always enough.
      You write that you gathered yesterday and convinced the Bandera people that they want to establish their rules, great!
      Tomorrow, when the government in Kiev asks NATO to introduce its contingent to Kharkov, the same zapadentsy under the guise of NATO bayonets will spread rot with impunity.
      1. chisya
        chisya 2 March 2014 19: 13
        +1
        There is a clear stance against NATO. If NATO comes, the people will beat them with Russia. In the meantime, people want to solve problems themselves within the country, if possible. External forces only make it worse.

        Most Westerners are normal people, with them you can find a common language. From their radicals, they themselves already suffer. Do not believe that western Ukraine is solid Bandera, this is not so. It’s just that now in the confusion, a different riffraff climbed out. But it is only a matter of time before she is removed. There are not many of them, but they really are, sometimes gangs of up to 20 people. There would be the will of the leadership, there are enough specialists to solve the issue. Yesterday, 3 traffic cops were killed in Kiev. .
        1. Genry
          Genry 2 March 2014 20: 58
          +2
          No, I do not understand your persuasion!
          I'm from kiev. There are a lot of bastards come in large numbers. If you do not throw them away, there will never be anything good in Ukraine !!!
          All elections will now be completely "nominal". And the power will change between the conditionally left bandits and the right.
          Until they clean Kiev, all of Ukraine will roll with acceleration towards the enemy of Russia.
          This has been the past 23 years, and now with direct control of the United States ...
          Partially this issue can no longer be resolved.
    7. ymNIK1970
      ymNIK1970 3 March 2014 00: 11
      +1
      Odessa RUSSIAN city. This is one of the slogans of Odessa. The same theme is in Kherson and Nikolaev. Novorossiya is a part of Russia. No other is given. "Banderlog for a stake to make Bandera cry." The most relevant slogan in Odessa. soldier
  33. Duke
    Duke 2 March 2014 16: 50
    +4
    Crimea home, reaped for many years.
  34. RUSS
    RUSS 2 March 2014 16: 53
    +1
    Quote: smersh70
    Tatars will never agree. here is their answer--


    Let's see, you can say one thing in the Mejlis, but act differently, I think the time when the Tatars "rocked their rights" and seized lands has passed.
    1. gfs84
      gfs84 2 March 2014 17: 04
      +4
      Yesterday a delegation from Tatarstan was in Crimea (then they couldn’t fly away for a long time), they shared their experience (our Tatars also advocated independence from Russia, now they don’t even remember about it) ...
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 2 March 2014 21: 08
      0
      Quote: RUSS
      I think the time when the Tatars "rocked the rights" and seized the land has passed.
      they never rocked, but merely demanded a return and normal life ...
  35. Havoc
    Havoc 2 March 2014 16: 58
    +3
    Russia has not violated more than one agreement. According to the agreement on the Black Sea Fleet, Russia has the right to keep 25 thousandth group of troops in the Crimea, now the group is, according to various sources, 16000-19000 people, including 2000 Marines, so that without violating the agreements, 6000-9000 troops can be brought into the Crimea. So everything is according to the law. That permission that the Federation Council gave did not have a relationship with Crimea, this is for the eastern regions, if they decide to offend.
    Western media are also ambiguous, many are already called fascists fascists. Sanctions, say, but there are legal grounds, everything is strictly according to the law. Fight that they maydanutye, or something.
  36. Lissyara
    Lissyara 2 March 2014 17: 02
    +4
    But is NATO not afraid of this danger? Or in Albania will they seek oil and gas?
    1. f.lourens
      f.lourens 2 March 2014 20: 15
      +2
      Well, finally, here it is the long-awaited image of Almaty wassat But seriously, NATO, in my opinion, is stocking up on diapers lol
  37. chuma_velikiy
    chuma_velikiy 2 March 2014 17: 08
    +2
    Quote: gfs84
    15: 58 NATO sees Russia's actions as a threat to Europe

    source http://lenta.ru/

    Pay attention to the source ... and immediately everything becomes clear !!!!
    1. Marine One
      Marine One 2 March 2014 17: 20
      +5
      And where is the tape? Are you at all? They cited an official statement by the head of NATO, distributed to all world news agencies.
  38. shelva
    shelva 2 March 2014 17: 09
    +2
    It is necessary to take Crimea recklessly, then let the diplomats understand.
  39. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 2 March 2014 17: 10
    +4
    They left the branch for autonomy as part of Ukraine. In a couple of days, eastern Ukraine will be bogged down under a bander. The sad result.
    All the same, the local authorities see the preservation of their posts and gesheft only in Ukraine. If Russia somehow guaranteed them the preservation of their income and power, the process of secession would take a maximum of a week.
  40. morpogr
    morpogr 2 March 2014 17: 11
    +9
    Most likely the scenario looks like Crimea becomes a separate state and joins the CU, EurAsEC and CSTO and shows an example to other regions how to act. The eastern regions are already talking about federalization about their status in the country of Ukraine and want a referendum on this issue, plus a refusal to pay taxes to the center. And there they themselves will decide to continue to be in an alliance with Russia or to join the composition ..
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 2 March 2014 17: 43
      +1
      Most likely the script looks like this <...>

      +1

      This scenario seems most likely and balanced.
    2. UzRus
      UzRus 2 March 2014 18: 08
      0
      morpogrDo you understand that this is actually the collapse of the country?
    3. Genry
      Genry 2 March 2014 21: 39
      +1
      Having torn off the Crimea, you will change the balance of votes for the whole of Ukraine and get an uncontrollably hostile country at hand. And it will be late to influence the situation.
      Without losing time, it is necessary to restore control over Ukraine as a whole, restoring the government and the president.
      The howling of the West, at the same time, will be as much as when the Crimea was separated. But here remains the integrity and lack of criticism in this matter. They say we carry out guarantees.
      To squeeze out the USA is the main goal. Then you can keep the country under control. Assistance in air defense, Navy, military base in Lviv and elsewhere (offset: military assistance for the lease of territory).
  41. RUSS
    RUSS 2 March 2014 17: 19
    +6
    Quote: sapran
    100% Crimea already lost ... Southeast on the way ..- TROUBLE!


    If you speak from the side of Bandera, then you have lost Crimea.
  42. Clegg
    Clegg 2 March 2014 17: 21
    0
    Do you know what a joke in the trend right now?

    I will write

    - Nationality?
    - Russian
    - Occupation?
    - No, No. Just visiting
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 2 March 2014 17: 50
      +4
      Winter Olympics is over
      1. TiGRoO
        TiGRoO 2 March 2014 21: 07
        +1
        Sorry ((wanted + put overshot ((( crying
    2. lelikas
      lelikas 2 March 2014 18: 16
      +3
      Quote: Clegg

      - Nationality?
      - Russian
      - Occupation?
      - No, No. Just visiting


      Earthlings, do not anger the Russians! :)
  43. region46
    region46 2 March 2014 17: 26
    +1
    I’ll only understand if this is one of the stages of joining Russia. and so, what state of Crimea, there is no industry there, it will not be able to support itself, and the neighbors will always harm it. Crimea lived in tourism, but this year many from Russia will not go there. how can the population replenish their budgets?
    1. chisya
      chisya 2 March 2014 17: 33
      +5
      Crimea is 80% subsidized from the budget. About 80% of fresh water is supplied from Ukraine and if I am not mistaken, 100% of electricity. Russia will have to roll money into Crimea, and quite a lot, for it must be shown that life has become better than in Ukraine.
      1. Manul
        Manul 3 March 2014 14: 22
        0
        Quote: chisya
        Crimea is 80% subsidized from the budget. About 80% of fresh water is supplied from Ukraine and if I am not mistaken, 100% of electricity. Russia will have to roll money into Crimea, and quite a lot, for it must be shown that life has become better than in Ukraine.

        Why are you so worried about our finances? And why immediately "show" Do you have such elementary words as help, thrift and care that do not fit in your head?
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 3 March 2014 14: 40
        0
        Quote: chisya
        Crimea is 80% subsidized from the budget.

        It became subsidized in the "square", in the USSR it was quite successful. In fact, it does not need to be subsidized. You need to correctly invest in it at the initial stage and it will fully provide for itself.
        About 80% of fresh water is supplied from Ukraine and if I am not mistaken, 100% of electricity

        With water, you can decide, not immediately of course. Electricity is also solvable. One nuclear power plant and the issue is resolved ..
  44. repytw
    repytw 2 March 2014 17: 31
    -1
    Quote: chisya
    If Crimea wants to be with Russia, good luck. But you are hoping for the eastern regions in vain. Now in Kharkov, Odessa, Dnepropetrovsk rallies against Russian aggression. I talked with Kharkovites, whom I know, nobody wants to be part of Russia, to be a friendly country, but no more, and the latest events in Crimea, when your military blocks our units that do not want to give up ... in general, that's sad.

    Where the military surrendered, your "peacekeepers" smashed all the equipment, removed the weapons depots.

    In general, the guys are not fraternally your looting. Many who were for Russia have already thought about whether it is necessary. Well, then you watch the first channel and think about how they are waiting for you here.

    The fact that some people hung a flag on the ODA yesterday does not mean anything. People gathered yesterday to give pussies to visitors, because they tried to establish their own rules, and not to see Russian tanks in their city. We ourselves are able to solve our problems and you were not invited here.

    Crimea is another matter, if there is such support there, then of course let them separate, why torment people. The guys from Vinnitsa said if your peacekeepers in the Crimea shoot our border guards, they will volunteer against Russia. In Kharkov, the people will not fight against Russia, but honestly did not expect that the time would come when the Russians would kill the Russians.

    America already offers weapons to fight with Russia to provide, a complete ass. Why bring this up? After all, there are those who wish. We in the east will still accept this spit from the fraternal country, but the center is unlikely.




    You listen to your TV channels and forums more, they don’t talk like that, at least one shot was fired or someone was captured, they’ve only blocked what would not interfere, and the locals will capture them, after a week without light, water and food, grandmother with tears on the eyes of the soldiers at the commanders pulled out and brought to feed, or they will start shooting.
    And about Kharkov through your channels they say that 2000 Russians came by bus across the border and seized the administration, maybe the truth is.
    1. chisya
      chisya 2 March 2014 17: 41
      +4
      I know that my guys went to beat the visitors, because they are insolently insolent. In addition to the ODE and the monument, the club was burned. When some began to tear down Ukrainian flags and hang Russian ones, there was a strange feeling. Not for this people were ...

      Well then your channels are also that stronghold of truth. Everyone says what they need. But Crimea is the territory of Ukraine so far, and you are blocking military units on its part. Is that normal for you? What does it mean to not interfere?

      Can you even imagine what our military is now? One ran away from the country and abandoned everyone, the second proclaimed himself, the general staff wants not to understand what, people do not seem to offend, no one needs to be protected, but what does it mean to surrender to the Russians?

      How is the new Crimean power different from the Maidan? 20000 gathered and chose a guide. The same lawlessness as in Kiev.
      1. UzRus
        UzRus 2 March 2014 18: 10
        0
        chisyawas a precedent.
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 2 March 2014 18: 21
        +4
        Quote: chisya

        How is the new Crimean power different from the Maidan? 20000 gathered and chose a guide. The same lawlessness as in Kiev.

        So now everyone is doing it this way - if in Kiev it is possible to change power in the whole country, then why is it impossible in Crimea? Maidan showed everyone how to change power, or can only the Maidan?
      3. sovety
        sovety 2 March 2014 18: 22
        +4
        Not the same one!
        No casualties!
        There is a will both above and below.
      4. Bully
        Bully 2 March 2014 18: 47
        +3
        Quote: chisya
        ... no one needs to be protected ...


        Here is an interesting movie! And what about people with memory? The people in Kharkov and Donetsk began to cleanse the faces of the zapadents only after Russia harnessed! And before that, people stupidly watched how scumbags infinit them, and there was no intelligible reaction except chatter! Well, now the stoned teenagers have been celebrated, and then what? If the Yarosh dudes with Kalash arrive, what will you do with the local slurred police? With a bare heel on a checker? And then Russian special forces will protect you!
        1. UzRus
          UzRus 2 March 2014 18: 57
          0
          Is there no "Berkut" in Kharkov and Donetsk?
        2. chisya
          chisya 2 March 2014 19: 06
          0
          Dear, in our city 1500000 people, the city has long been considered a militia, a lot of military universities. Believe me, there is someone to answer here without Russian special forces. Or are you people and the army of Ukraine do not put anything at all?

          I would not call our police slurred. It’s not Kiev, and it’s not enough to defend your mind defenders. Yesterday they worked out nothing in the square.
          1. Bully
            Bully 2 March 2014 19: 47
            +2
            He didn’t mean to offend you. Just remembered the events of a week ago! Zapadentsev did in your cities what they wanted! The police allowed the seizure of the administration building and your militias stormed, so I put it that way! As for the large population, the argument is weak, because not the crowd wins, but the one who is well organized and armed. Apparently, the people have not yet matured, so the Sevastopol Golden Eagle after Kiev is no longer necessary to agitate, they will not refuse to help.
        3. Genry
          Genry 2 March 2014 21: 51
          0
          Quote: Bully
          people stupidly watched how scumbags mess around with them, and there was no intelligible reaction except chatter


          Thugs with weapons and the desire to use it.
          You now, even with a decent army in Kiev do not dare to get.
          And people have neither coordination nor finance to fight freely (the main question). There are so many "right" reasoning bastards, complete powerlessness in front of venality and betrayal, because they can come to your home. No one will protect. That we should start a barracks-raspberry lifestyle, which will simplify tracking and attack.
  45. gfs84
    gfs84 2 March 2014 17: 37
    +8
    Balaklava Ore Administration, Chernomorneftegaz, Production Association "Foton", Dzhankoy Machine-Building Plant, Plant "Selhozdetal", Feodosia Mechanical Plant, Plant "Gidropribor", Sevastopol Instrument-Making Plant, Plant "Santekhprom", Kerch Shipyard "Zaliv", Feodosia Shipbuilding Company ", Sevastopol Marine Plant, Kamysh-Burunsky Iron Ore Plant, Kerch Metallurgical Plant, Chemical Industry.
    In my opinion, not a little though everything is not in very good condition, + agriculture + shelf of the Black Sea, + winemaking ...
    Cyprus never dreamed of, but they had nothing to live ...
  46. anrykaluga
    anrykaluga 2 March 2014 18: 03
    +9
    I’ve been watching a series with Ukraine for 4 months ... Here are my conclusions from everything that I saw!
    1.23 years there was no intelligible policy of Russia in Ukraine ... (thanks to all the ambassadors of our Foreign Ministry);
    2. The east and south of Ukraine is to blame for what is happening in Ukraine ... They didn’t want to unite and made it clear that 3 western puppets in the parliament rule the ball ... They had the opportunity to rectify the situation 3 months the zapadents burned Kiev !;
    3. One gets the impression that the fate of Crimea has already been decided, and even 2 weeks ago, during the first conversation between Obama and Putin! Only this can explain the lack of Washington's reaction to the presence of our armed forces under the guise of "polite" people .. numbers on tigers RUS, and Obama says that the affiliation is not confirmed))). Plus, real pictures with "peaceful" demonstrators went to foreign channels ...;
    4.Europe does not need "Syria" with a nuclear power plant (15 reactors) ...;
    5. Now all the statements are just a farce to save the face of the people who participated in the bidding of Ukraine .;
    6.Now time will tell when it reaches the South and East that without losing alliance with Russia they only lose !!!;
    7.And the most important thing is that if such a reaction to Putin’s statement about Ukraine’s support is what will happen when the main trump card is economic ??? ...;
    8.After today, when anti-Russian rallies took place, where Russia shouted yesterday, Putin has every moral right to tighten the economic bolt until the thread breaks ...
    This is my personal opinion from watching a TV series called "Ukraine" lately ...
  47. Egoza
    Egoza 2 March 2014 18: 07
    +4
    Stefan Fule, European Commissioner for Enlargement and European Neighborhood Policy, calls for the preservation of Yalta as a meeting place for East and West in indivisible Ukraine.
    "In Crimea, at the Yalta European Strategy Yes, we discussed a united Europe. Save Yalta as a place for East and West to meet in an indivisible Ukraine," Fule urged the parties in connection with the situation in Crimea.
    http://www.versii.com/news/298483/
    XXXX
    That’s who it will be possible to take from for rent of premises in full !!!! laughing
    1. Trofimov Andrey
      Trofimov Andrey 2 March 2014 18: 16
      +2
      Buy him a car with a tape recorder, and a suit with the ebb ... And in Yalta
    2. Net
      Net 2 March 2014 18: 23
      +4
      Fuck them, not Yalta! The maximum passenger car on the Dzhankoy stretch is Melitopol for negotiations with all kinds of Fule, Mule ... Enough already, we got to turn the Livadia Palace into a place for banquets of those in power.
      1. AVIATOR36662
        AVIATOR36662 2 March 2014 23: 38
        0
        Why the hell, dear? Films were also regularly filmed there. The maintenance of the palace itself still requires live money. Remember? Who should they be taken from, if not from foreigners?
    3. Tatarus
      Tatarus 2 March 2014 18: 30
      +1
      Yalta Conference 2.0
      1. Riperbahn
        Riperbahn 2 March 2014 20: 21
        +2
        There is no connection with Yalta in 1945. And these EU-zhopnyukov in a pig shed. And our outside talk to them. More conditions will be set!
  48. autonomus
    autonomus 2 March 2014 18: 11
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    RUSSIAN CHOWINISM AND DOUBLE STANDARDS

    1. If a Russian loves Russia, he is a patriot. If a Ukrainian loves Ukraine, he is a terry Bandera nationalist.

    2. If the Russian says "" - he kindly ironizes over the representative of the fraternal people. If the Ukrainian says "b" - he reveals this his nationalist, anti-Russian essence.

    3. If a Russian rally - he defends his interests. If a Ukrainian is rallying, he will work off American money paid to him for anti-Russian purposes.

    4. If the Russian president communicates with the American president, he builds relations between the two countries. If the Ukrainian president communicates with the American president, they both weave an anti-Russian conspiracy.

    5. If Russian speaks Russian, it is simply Russian. If a Ukrainian speaks the Ukrainian language - he is a nationalist, Bandera, Russophobe and Petlyura unfinished.

    6. If the president of Russia declares pro-Russian slogans, this is a normal president. If the president of Ukraine declares pro-Ukrainian slogans - he is a pro-American and anti-Russian president.

    7. If the Russian government does not agree with the Ukrainian government - it defends national interests. If the Ukrainian government does not agree with the Russian government - finally Abarzeli.
    1. Gecko
      Gecko 2 March 2014 18: 36
      .
      Soon Euromaidan will come to you, get ready ...
      1. Ustian
        Ustian 2 March 2014 20: 43
        +2
        euromanda is covered with a copper basin.
    2. UzRus
      UzRus 2 March 2014 18: 40
      +2
      No need to juggle, dear.
    3. kare
      kare 2 March 2014 19: 32
      -7
      autonomus (1) BY Today, 18: 11

      RUSSIAN CHOWINISM AND DOUBLE STANDARDS

      "1. If a Russian loves Russia, he is a patriot. If a Ukrainian loves Ukraine, he is a terry Bandera nationalist.

      2. If the Russian says "" - he kindly ironizes over the representative of the fraternal people. If the Ukrainian says "b" - he reveals this his nationalist, anti-Russian essence.

      3. If a Russian rally - he defends his interests. If a Ukrainian is rallying, he will work off American money paid to him for anti-Russian purposes.

      4. If the Russian president communicates with the American president, he builds relations between the two countries. If the Ukrainian president communicates with the American president, they both weave an anti-Russian conspiracy.

      5. If Russian speaks Russian, it is simply Russian. If a Ukrainian speaks the Ukrainian language - he is a nationalist, Bandera, Russophobe and Petlyura unfinished.

      6. If the president of Russia declares pro-Russian slogans, this is a normal president. If the president of Ukraine declares pro-Ukrainian slogans - he is a pro-American and anti-Russian president.

      7. If the Russian government does not agree with the Ukrainian government, it defends national interests. If the Ukrainian government does not agree with the Russian government - finally abarzeli. "

      Well, what are you not happy with. Everything is correctly written. What is permitted to Jupiter is not allowed to the bull repeat
      1. user1212
        user1212 3 March 2014 18: 42
        0
        UKRAINIAN CHOVINISM AND DOUBLE STANDARDS
        1. If the people of Kiev stand for their rights, then this is the right of a free people. If Crimea stands for its rights, then this is Putin’s planned riot
        2. If the Russians say "we will protect the population" this is aggression, if Yulenka says "we will bring Sevastopol to its knees" this is a nice joke. "the train of friendship" also dreamed of the Crimeans
        3. If the people of Kiev shoot at unarmed cops and plunder army arsenals, then this is a "peaceful demonstration." If the Russians blockade weapons depots in Crimea in order to prevent bloodshed, then this is aggression
        4. If Putin defends the interests of the Russian-speaking population, this is a crime against humanity. If the people of Kiev bring to power fascists and terrorists like Sashko, then this is democracy
        5. If the people of Kiev, contrary to the constitution, overthrow the government, this is legal. If Crimea, contrary to the constitution, overthrows the government, this is arbitrary
        6. The people of Kiev have the right to determine their fate. Crimeans have no such right
        7. Kievans may threaten the violent dispersal of rallies in Crimea. It is clear that the Crimea has no right to defense
    4. Voennyi
      Voennyi 2 March 2014 20: 27
      +3
      You yourself are not funny from these 7 March theses?
    5. hasenussbaum
      hasenussbaum 3 March 2014 00: 02
      -2
      Russian aggressor in Crimea - do not run away from Bandera - you will die tired!
      1. builder
        builder 3 March 2014 00: 54
        0
        Quote: hasenussbaum
        Russian aggressor in Crimea - do not run away from Bandera - you will die tired!
        1. builder
          builder 3 March 2014 00: 57
          0
          Quote: hasenussbaum
          Do not run away from Bandera
  49. Trofimov Andrey
    Trofimov Andrey 2 March 2014 18: 12
    +5
    Guys, take pity on Nikita Sergeevich (not Mikhalkov). He is now not just turning over, but how the propeller rotates ...
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 2 March 2014 20: 23
      +2
      This svo.loch is still alive: (((
  50. Barsik
    Barsik 2 March 2014 18: 13
    +4
    Quote: UzRus
    And "Bush's legs" will be banned from selling ... Yes, that will be strong, of course!

    What the fuck are the legs of a bush?))) Lift anyone interested in the statistics of chicken production in the same Belgorod region. Trade marks "White Bird", "Prioskolye", "Yasnye Zori". And Ukraine will have enough
    1. UzRus
      UzRus 2 March 2014 18: 42
      0
      But Bush’s legs are still being purchased! And do not care your manufacturer.
      1. Voennyi
        Voennyi 2 March 2014 20: 16
        +2
        For some reason, fewer patriots among merchants. They have other interests that are aloof from Russia.