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Dear friends! Like all of us, I closely watch TV and the Internet for events in Ukraine. And today, when the amount of information on the issue has accumulated a fair amount, I would like to express my modest opinion, which many probably will seem controversial, and to some people completely absurd. Sorry.

Now to the point. The bacchanalia now taking place in the fraternal country is nothing more than a political performance staged by experienced directors in Moscow. I suggest for a reflection to return everything, for starters, a half-step, by historical by the standards, back.

Since gaining independence in 1991, Ukraine, with varying degrees of consistency, has moved into the arms of Europe, gradually moving away from Russia, freeing itself from Russianness, not forgetting, however, asking Russia for various "fraternal" preferences like lowering gas prices, interspersing requests with blackmail in the Black Sea the fleet and transit of the same gas. The process went on with all modern “hetmans,” not excluding the latter.

Europe did not remain aloof from the movement, not to mention our sworn friends from the USA, who were dreaming of a split in the Russian world. But this is written enough. The stormy Russian reality of 90 and the beginning of 2000 did not allow us to build a clear and attractive picture for the people of Ukraine of our joint bright future, which was also helped by the Ukrainian political elite, almost entirely recruited from the pitch Westerners. It came first from the participation of some Ukrainians in the fighting in Chechnya on the side of the militants, to the almost open military assistance of Ukraine in the war of Georgia against Russia. As they say, come!

In the 2010 year, after the failure of the “orange project”, V.F. Yanukovych I think few people will doubt that he was able to take this post, only as a "candidate of the Kremlin." It was the moment when the “vote against” was used by the Russian political establishment to advance its protégé to the Ukrainian kingdom. There is, however, one big "but." It is impossible to imagine a more inappropriate, at first naked eye, presidential candidate of anything. Even without taking into account the criminal past, in Viktor Fedorovich, only the long-suffering people of Ukraine could not discern a banal thief with the horizons of Gopnik. But not Putin.

Yanukovych was the perfect candidate for the presidency. Having occupied the office, he set to his favorite business - he began to steal. And in a little over three years he achieved the success that was expected of him in Moscow - all of Ukraine hated him already. Simultaneously with the theft, Viktor Fedorovich, sensing the aspirations of having lost the correct life guidelines under the influence of the Western propaganda of Ukrainian society (or rather its rabid part), led the country on a course of European integration. And almost led.

In this place there are some logical questions. Why led? Why not brought? Where did Putin look?

During the years of separatism in Ukraine, mostly western and central, a steady western vector of development appeared and settled, and this locomotive, rushing along rails well-lubricated by Europe and the USA, was no longer possible without diversion on the tracks. Ukraine is rapidly and forever leaving. Russia could not allow this. And such a diversion happened. In the form of a sudden refusal by Yanukovych to sign an association agreement with the EU. Let's not forget that presidential elections were planned for Ukraine on 2015 year. Save, if not the presidency, then at least stolen, without the support of Putin, Yanukovych had no chance. He was awaited trial and time. Tymoshenko would never have forgiven him a setup with a landing, by the way, everyone remembers the reason - for gas contracts with Moscow that were allegedly unfavorable to Kiev. And the people were angry: “Gang get out!” Already sounded like a toast in Ukraine.

Further scenario to calculate almost no difficulty. The habitual appearance of Maidan was predictable as frost in winter. Information about the presence of well-trained militant organizations of Bandera in the west of Ukraine could be gathered almost from the open press, not to mention the agents of the FSB and SVR, and other sources available to the Russian leadership. The fact that the Nazis tried to take advantage of the situation to seize power - was quite in the logic of events. And if they began to linger, they were “prompted”, I repeat, the possibilities of the special services are sometimes undeservedly underestimated.

We all remember how outraged by the lack of weapons at "Golden eagle" and internal troops in Kiev. The surrender of the police and even the army units in the west of Ukraine. How our fists clenched when we watched interviews of fighters confronting scumbags and unable to fulfill their duty - to disperse and shoot the raging Nazis! Unfortunately, they played their part in this play. The unenviable role. But important. They were supposed to be heroes in the eyes of “normal” Ukrainians, and of course Russians, of course. And lose. Their victory would have kept Yanukovych in office. But it was no longer needed. He moved from the tenors to the third row of the choir. And frank and "non-shake-up" garbage, brought up by the rolls of the Nude frivolnate, which, apparently, seriously thought of replaying Putin, came close to power.

So what do we have at the exit? Ukraine did not evrointegrirovatsya and in the near future the issue with this does not even arise - to integrate 40 more than millions of beggars, led by the Nazis (do not forget about the influence of Israel) - even the current Europe will not, and tomorrow Europe, with a new parliament, even more so. Ukraine does not have a legitimate authority (recall Yanukovych’s bleating at a press conference in Rostov-on-Don) and will not receive substantial loans from anyone. The Crimea with the base of the Black Sea Fleet is about to be, if not a part of Russia, it will be “independent” - for sure. Gangster lawlessness, and even considering the impending default, will soon appear to be independent, and especially to workers from the South-East, a completely inappropriate form of government. And then - Russia, save and accept the prodigal children!

Someone here was in favor of the immediate provision of "military assistance" to Ukraine. This will not happen, believe me, not now. The fruit must ripen, it is green. It would be a crime to act as an aggressor and start a war between Russians and Russians. Maneuvers are a sign to the West - we are ready to go all the way, do not go all the way! Well, in the Crimea, God himself commanded, without much advertising, of course.

Yes, this is a cruel scenario. But the only possible for the survival of Russia. And Ukraine. Otherwise, Russia loses not only the base of the fleet, and in fact the entire Black Sea, but also loses its historical territories. That would be the beginning of the end of Russia. What would the Ukrainians in Europe expect - let them ask the Bulgarians and other "new" integrated ones.

Putin holds a pause. He has nowhere to hurry. The move is made. Ukraine - I'm sorry, you are to blame yourself.
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  1. older
    older 1 March 2014 10: 49
    0
    I read the article and realized that this is not a woman’s dog, it’s still a typical person
    1. Ari100kraT
      Ari100kraT 1 March 2014 10: 57
      +9
      When the forum member makes almost an appeal from the President of Russia to the peoples of Ukraine, it goes and is ridiculous. Especially reasoning
      Some people spoke out in favor of the immediate provision of “military assistance” to Ukraine. This will not happen, believe me, not now.
      The fruit must ripen, it is green. To act as an aggressor and start a war between Russians and Russians would be criminal. Maneuvers are a sign to the West - we are ready to go to the end, do not pander! Well, in Crimea, God himself ordered, without unnecessary advertising, of course.
      Ukraine - I'm sorry, you yourself are to blame.


      Politics is a dirty business, and when it is conducted on a global scale it is doubly dirty. If the Leader of the country acts with dirty, dishonest and vile actions, but in the interests of the country he rules, he enters History. If the Leader of the country is truthful and honest, but the country is losing territory, and the population is in poverty, he "plunges" into History.

      I recall directly the past Plenums of the CPSU and the theses that had to be summarized in the "History of the CPSU" in the military school.
      It seems to me that it is high time to move on the site from theses, slogans and "ripping vests" to the usual communication of citizens hi
      And then there were people whose comments only consist of slogans laughing

      And now the "hand" is irrelevant, the more it is not necessary to replace Russia with Moscow repeat , we need a "leg of Russia" that will help to disperse the bandits who occupied Kiev with kicks, but Kiev (Yanyk) does not have "eggs of Ukraine" and therefore, instead of "hand" and "leg", the "wallet of Russia" works
      1. older
        older 1 March 2014 11: 09
        -19%
        Quote: Ari100krat
        It seems to me that it is high time to move on the site from theses, slogans and "ripping vests" to the usual conversation of citizens hi

        Now seriously ... I completely agree with you. 99,999 comments begin with idiotic-Russia should help the fraternal ... or -We are fraternal people ...
        Yes, we don’t owe anything to anyone ... And we are no longer fraternal peoples ...
        Russians on Ukroain? There, besides Sevastopol, there are no Russians ... there are Ukrainians ... Call them whatever you like, the citizens of Ukraine are still like that, but they are Ukrainians ... Abama, black-necked. Someone came from somewhere, but an American ... And Ukrainians live in Ukraine ... And Ukrainians must be respected. Russian (even with the end of the surname on O or even on Itler, all the same Russian.
        Declarations, chatter on the site is just chatter ... only one out of a hundred, or even two, says something reasonable ... the rest are protesting ...
        And when he wrote, the boys really need a paper general status ...
        1. Ari100kraT
          Ari100kraT 1 March 2014 11: 34
          -4
          Quote: older
          Yes, we don’t owe anything to anyone ... And we are no longer fraternal peoples ...

          That's when everyone realizes and accepts these simple rules and life will become much easier. Someone will start to work, and not wait for loans, discounts on gas (oil) and "soap" in Gaster, and we will stop turning our cheeks after another slap in the face.
          1. older
            older 1 March 2014 12: 21
            -5
            Quote: Ari100krat
            That's when everyone realizes and accepts these simple rules.

            This will happen exactly when we die ... The most basic evil in this situation is we ... those who grew up with the USSR. My tribe who won the Caucasus very clearly understands that we are Russians and Ukrainians are cattle ... They killed my friends ... Papa.polkan SPN Gro, who rode around the world at one time, tried to explain ... Only the answer is simple ... Those who killed your friends are your enemy? .. so why are you telling me that these are brothers?
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 1 March 2014 11: 44
          +41
          Quote: older
          Russians on Ukroain? There, except in Sevastopol, there are no Russians ... there are Ukrainians


          You are not well informed, dear! I am Russian, and like many others, I have helped, and I help. So are my children. This is very difficult in Kiev. here really "come in large numbers" so much that you can't breathe. And yet, in the most difficult days, the soldiers of the Golden Eagle were also brought tea, and things, well, what they needed. Now in the hospital of the Ministry of Internal Affairs there was a force majeure with drugs - they helped. And without any alarmist and provocative screams in the internet. Yes, there is no strength to speak openly in Kiev, but we must remember that the blind Batyuk also led an underground organization in Kiev during the Second World War. It's just that people do the right thing quietly and silently. We don't need advertising.
          1. older
            older 1 March 2014 12: 36
            +4
            Quote: Egoza
            You are poorly informed, dear!

            I am well aware ... You are not Russian. You are Ukrainian of Russian origin ... Why is Washington a resident an American and a Kiev resident Russian? That's just the fact that so far Ukrainians (and in any country of the world in the concept of ordinary people, these are citizens of Ukraine) are divided into Russians, Tatars, Ukrainians, Rusyns .. Armenians ... Chukchi, finally, we give the nationalists the ground .. A soil based on nothing ... Generally on nothing ...
            Six months ago, fate brought me to Chuvashia ... Fate, this is a Chinese bastard-navigator ... I rode along local roads and fell asleep ...
            In the morning, his eyes were torn ... The village .. people ... sometimes they go (they work, the trees are sticking ... I got out of the car .. I ask how to get by the grandmother ... She, as it turned out, speaks Russian, but understands more .. .I would say in her place, I don’t know, and went about my business .. But not here ... she picked up people from the nearest hut. I distributed them, then they called a driver driver from somewhere ... In short, half an hour half a village discussed how I go to the track ..
            They told us that they put the whites of the Chuvash in the back seat, wished them a good journey ...
            And now the question is, are they Russian or Chuvash? Now I’ll tear my throat to anyone. Who will tell me that this is not Russian ... and God forbid, someone will say differently ... They are Russian ... But they have an interesting Russian language . interesting clothes and customs ...
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            2. huut
              huut 1 March 2014 13: 12
              +6
              Quote: older
              And now the question is, are they Russian or Chuvash?

              They are Russian Chuvashs, and there are also Russian Ukrainians, Jews, Tatars. Among the peoples of the Caucasus there are Russians. Why do you strive to take away their small-town traditions and culture and cross them in Russian Russians?

              And you roll a barrel on the Ukrainians because they did not put the salsa in the trunk? Well, as they would put it, would you think well of them? I would probably call them Russians ...

              You wrote here that the father of your tribe was trying to explain to him about his attitude to other nations, but he had a hit on the drum - a Ukrainian shot at me, which means they are all enemies to me. What the hell ?? Well, maximalism is the most primitive.

              We fought in the Second World War and against the Russians (more precisely, they are against us), all sorts of people came across, and what are the Russian enemies to us? I’m fighting with my hand ... This is to psychiatry.

              Are you really "alder" or is it just your name? Where is the wisdom then? Drowned in a shroud of anger at someone?
            3. Egoza
              Egoza 1 March 2014 13: 38
              +11
              Quote: older
              .You are not Russian. You are Ukrainian of Russian origin ... Why is a Washington resident an American and a Russian resident in Kiev?

              Forgive me, but this is already "nude" I was born in Moscow! And all my life, while the count stood - Russian was written! If by the will of fate brought it to Ukraine, am I now a Ukrainian of Russian origin? How do you then differ from those who are eager to Ukrainize all Russians in Ukraine? This is exactly how they drum into the heads of children in schools, and even in kindergartens, "Ukrainianness" !!!
              I'm not going to talk with you anymore!
              1. Sirocco
                Sirocco 1 March 2014 14: 08
                +5
                Quote: Egoza
                Excuse me, but this is already "numb"

                You are wrong Fidget is not nuggle, but stupidity at least. What are we arguing about? KIEV is the mother of Russian cities, or isn’t it? Some have turned into Ivanov’s relatives of those who don’t remember, sorry for those.
                Declarations, chatter on the site is just chatter ... only one out of a hundred, or even two, says something reasonable ... the rest are protesting.
                This quote is disrespectful to site visitors. How to deal with this? Sergey compares us with the Maydan. Something on the wrong.
                ..Abama,black-neckedcame from somewhere, but an American.
                What about Obama? I was slapped for less "strokach" Double standards, however, on the VO.
                1. BIGLESHIY
                  BIGLESHIY 2 March 2014 15: 11
                  0
                  Quote: Sirocco
                  ..Abama,black-neckedcame from somewhere, but an American.
                  What about Obama? I was slapped for less "strokach" Double standards, however, on the VO.

                  Well, the fact that he is a black-necked black man is true, but you can’t punish the truth laughing
              2. Apollo
                Apollo 1 March 2014 14: 44
                +5
                Quote: Egoza
                Forgive me, but this is already "nude" I was born in Moscow! And all my life, while the count stood - Russian was written

                Elena! hi
                Why are you reporting? No need, we all know and respect you! Everything.
              3. alexdol
                alexdol 1 March 2014 14: 50
                +5
                Egoza SU "I'm not going to communicate with you anymore!"
                -------------------------------------------------- ----
                Thank you, Elena, I fully share your views! Unfortunately, such people are met quite often, this is an example of how propaganda changed their thinking ... Thank you again, all the time I thought that a man was speaking under "EGOZA", how wrong I was ...
            4. Apollo
              Apollo 1 March 2014 14: 41
              +3
              Quote: older
              You are not Russian. You are Ukrainian of Russian origin ..

              I do not understand, you are closely acquainted with the visitor Egoza, a woman, a mother and finally a grandmother. You live in the neighborhood, or maybe you are a district police officer or work in the passport office where the visitor indicated by me is registered ?! What kind of treatment?! My advice to you, when cornering a little easier.
            5. housekeeper
              housekeeper 1 March 2014 21: 18
              +4
              You are not Russian. You are a Ukrainian of Russian descent ... Why is a Washington resident an American and a Kiev resident Russian?
              I'll add my own "5 kopecks". I was born and raised in a village that was founded by Russian Old Believers in 1673 in the south of the present Nikolaev region. My surname is Russian, but in the old Soviet passport in the column the nationality was written - Ukrainian. So who am I now? Do not forget that many people on the territory of Ukraine during the early Soviet era were forced to write down the nationality "Ukrainian". What about the descendants of these people? After all, they speak Russian, the culture of Russia is much closer to them the culture of Poles, Hungarians, Romanians, Czechs, etc.
        3. Andrey57
          Andrey57 1 March 2014 11: 46
          +9
          The bacchanalia now taking place in the fraternal country is nothing more than a political performance staged by experienced directors in Moscow.


          Sheer stupidity !!! GDP came up with a "knight's move on the head" and Europe and America raced to pay for "Putin's insidious plan" and promote the fascist coup with the whole crowd! Well - well, you can certainly consider the Americans complete idiots, since they give out enough reasons for this, but to accuse them of collusion with the GDP on the subject of "spending taxpayers' money on Putin's projects" is a clear overkill for the author laughing
          1. 120352
            120352 1 March 2014 12: 17
            +1
            From an inattentive reading of the original source, your incorrect conclusions follow.
          2. shuhartred
            shuhartred 1 March 2014 12: 47
            +3
            Quote: Andrey57
            but to accuse them of conspiring with the GDP on the subject of "spending taxpayers' money on Putin's projects" is a clear overkill for the author

            Well, not all the same they replay us. And then it sounds like this for you, they say, Americans docks in such games and it’s not for us to play with them in the same field. Why not. At least in the article I did not find any visible logical inconsistencies.
        4. huut
          huut 1 March 2014 12: 16
          +9
          Quote: older
          And we are no longer fraternal peoples ...

          Don't turn your personal opinion into a "fact". A lot of people in Russia have family ties in Ukraine. How can a person, whose uncle / brother / nephew live there, can abandon kinship and begin to consider "we are no longer fraternal peoples ..."? Does this also apply to Belarusians, following this logic?
          Ukrainians are just as Russians as Russians are Ukrainians. Because of every Nazi bastard, who wound up somewhere in the lining, it is impossible to spit on normal people and convulsively disown kinship, even if officially "Ukraine is a sovereign state."

          And the second point: I do not welcome empty slogans and the desire to get / give a freebie with a sauce of kinship, but this is already an internal family showdown around a common pie.
          1. both s69
            both s69 1 March 2014 12: 48
            +2
            Quote: huut
            Ukrainians are just as Russians as Russians are Ukrainians. Because of every Nazi bastard, who wound up somewhere in the lining, it is impossible to spit on normal people and convulsively disown kinship, even if officially "Ukraine is a sovereign state."

            Keep! good
          2. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 1 March 2014 14: 28
            +1
            Quote: huut
            Ukrainians are just as Russian as Russians are Ukrainians.

            Are you sure that the majority of Ukrainians also think?
            1. huut
              huut 1 March 2014 15: 50
              +2
              Quote: DanaF1
              Are you sure that the majority of Ukrainians also think?

              Just the bulk of this is possible. But even if not, the main thing is that we think so and they know it.
              We do not take Crimea from them, but give the whole of Russia) The same Berkutovets, having received a Russian patchport, can safely go live in any city, up to and including Kamchatka. And let him call himself a Ukrainian, even necessarily. If he does not harm his country, and the RF has already become his country, then let him call himself as he pleases. And he wants to, so let him call Russian. Everything is one.

              Considering yourself a Ukrainian is not shameful. It is shameful to forget or not to know who the Russians are and what is the difference between them and the Ukrainians. It’s shameful to put on a mask and become a Nazi, abandoning reason in favor of hatred. Creation Against Destruction.

              Here is Victor An or Wilde, our Olympians - they are OUR) Yes, let this Korean, if he wants, be called Russian, Englishman too! Do not want? Well, okay, let only the rest consider them Russian)

              Choosing for yourself only a certain national corner, it turns out that you refuse to participate in anything more, in a universal destiny. Lock yourself in a closet, although they give you to use the whole apartment. But even then - why not? The main thing is that life does not spoil others, and it would be better if it even helped.

              If anyone in Ukraine wants to live in a closet, then there is no need to drag the whole region there. There are people who are crowded there. The latitude of the Russian soul has not been canceled. And it is available to a person of any nationality)

              And if it is dry and without emotion: many in Ukraine have been instilled with values ​​that are beneficial to someone from their youth, and now these values ​​are considered "native". We need to vaccinate our own - everyone will win.
        5. AVIATOR36662
          AVIATOR36662 1 March 2014 23: 40
          +2
          In one thing you are absolutely right. We are not fraternal peoples. We are just one people. It's just that history and fate have scattered our one people over long distances. It's okay, as you can see, we are getting together again and probably forever. Well, the comrades of the West will think to join. to us, or to separate again into an independent one headed by the "Right Sector". Probably, this will be their right. But life experience tells me that Westerners will not like Muzychko-type leaders either.
      2. zart_arn
        zart_arn 1 March 2014 11: 18
        +6
        The disgusting article from the author burped. Like the evil Russian leadership for many years weaved nets for the Ukrainian people, and now this people finally got into these nets, breaks their gills, fins, loses scales and completely frayed will fall on their knees to the fishermen. More monstrous lapel and come up with stash. Even frankly not loving the current Russian leadership, I cannot imagine that something like that, which the author wanted to convey, was hatched in the plans of the "ministry of good deeds." Whoever says anything or calls for anything, my opinion is that everything that happens in the Ukrainian people is to blame, you need to think with your head before doing this. Let them now think how to get out of this situation.
    2. T80UM1
      T80UM1 1 March 2014 11: 59
      +3
      By the way, a great article, I still doubted, but my Ukrainian colleague said everything that is happening in Ukraine now - this is Putin’s well-prepared performance called restoring the territorial integrity of the union.
      1. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 1 March 2014 14: 30
        +2
        Quote: T80UM1
        By the way, a great article, I still doubted, but my Ukrainian colleague said everything that is happening in Ukraine now - this is Putin’s well-prepared performance called restoring the territorial integrity of the union.

        I also basically agree with the article ...

        the only thing I don’t agree with is that it was originally Putin’s plan ...
        but, intelligence works for us, we studied the plans of the West and take counter-measures in a way that is beneficial to us ...
        I think in December it was clear that the West would not be able to control the Maidan ...
      2. Kite
        Kite 1 March 2014 15: 08
        +1
        I rated the work of authorship as a minus for the phrases: " This place raises several logical questions. Why led? Why didn’t you finish it? Where did Putin look? Over the years of independence in Ukraine, according to most of the western and central, a stable western vector of development appeared and settled down and stopping this locomotive, rushing along rails well-oiled by Europe and the USA, was already impossible without sabotage on the tracks."
        Why is Putin, in Ukraine, as well as in Russia, to blame for the "cat abandoned kittens"? Give free rein, show yourself. Have you manifested? Vector of development you say, a locomotive rushing? And it was derailed by the SS punishers, who had been sitting in the forest since the end of the 40s of the last century, or by their constantly abused "presidents"? Author, did you take the elections of power in your Ukraine seriously, or did you think that it was just an empty formality, all the same, everything will be as Putin decides?
    3. 120352
      120352 1 March 2014 12: 11
      +1
      OLDER
      Explain whom I meant? Who is this human type dog?
    4. Realist58
      Realist58 1 March 2014 16: 34
      +1
      I didn’t put anything. The author is undoubtedly right in some things, but the conclusions are wrong.

      1. It was precisely that Putin was afraid to intervene directly and that American tyranny was counting on when it arranged Chaos. And if we don’t intervene now, we will get a destroyed country, WHICH we will HAVE TO HAVE TO RESTORE.
      Why does Europe need it ... most of the European countries and their rulers are direct vassals of the United States without the right to opinion and sovereignty, well, to countries like the Poles, to steal under the guise of "kymsk volost".

      2. The Kremlin is not such a genius as you think. And the burden of having to evaluate all circumstances is EXTREMELY GREAT. Even Stalin (a very extraordinary personality) made the most banal mistakes. As an example, the most logical step after the seizure of power by the Nazis would be the UN Security Council calling on the parties to renounce violence and warn about the persecution under international law of those who will engage in political, racial, religious purges and vandalism.
      However, this was not done.

      What to do now ...
      Firstly to do what ALL media politicians and political scientists are afraid to SPEAK.
      - UKRAINE is NOT a state of Ukrainians, and the territory collected by the Bolsheviks under the project of artificial separation of the RUSSIAN people, populated mainly by the Russian people.
      - Ukrainiansis the nationality of communities united initially forcibly Austria-Hungary, Poland, Germany, the Bolshevik government of the USSR from peoples of different nationalities under the ANTI-RUSSIAN project.
      This practice was continued by the current Ukrainian oligarchy in power, for its purely commercial purposes.

      This needs to be done by the CHARTERS OF THE MOST MAIN REPRESENTATIVES OF THE SUPREME AUTHORITY - PUTIN, KUI-YANUKOVICH, with technical equipment to see this appeal to as many citizens of Ukraine as possible.
  2. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 1 March 2014 10: 52
    +10
    Meanwhile ... Residents of Western Ukraine with a sense of deep satisfaction met the offensive of the European order. It was they who were the first to come out of submission by malignant possessions.

    On video: one of the authorities is discussing the initiatives of the Heavenly government. A simple giant politely shares his opinion. The faces of the authorities are written deep satisfaction with the changes. The happiness of Ukraine is in safe hands!
    1. bootlegger
      bootlegger 1 March 2014 11: 21
      +27
      Sashko Bily is a very useful idiot. An ideal shot for discrediting the new Bandera state.
      1. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 1 March 2014 12: 52
        0
        Quote: bootlegger
        Sashko Bily is a very useful idiot. An ideal shot for discrediting the new Bandera state.

        That's for sure, I won’t be surprised if it later turns out that this is the body paid for ....
        1. Danafxnumx
          Danafxnumx 1 March 2014 14: 32
          +1
          Quote: ziqzaq
          That's for sure, I won’t be surprised if it later turns out that this is the body paid for ....

          what does it mean, "it turns out later"?
          it is obvious from the very beginning ...
      2. Dilshat
        Dilshat 1 March 2014 13: 25
        0
        For whom is it useful? The USA? It is enough to come with a pair of machine guns to the east of Ukraine and you can push them around. Here the weakness of Ukraine is shown. I hope it is temporary.
      3. Kamarada
        Kamarada 1 March 2014 14: 10
        0
        of this useful, appropriate services should handle as expected
    2. Same lech
      Same lech 1 March 2014 11: 21
      +5
      Yeah SASHKO bit a bit and the authorities are shaking hands .... heh heh well and the clowning.
      1. 120352
        120352 1 March 2014 12: 19
        +1
        It was necessary to shoot right away to immobilize and - to court! For banditry and violent seizure of power. And after the verdict, shoot again. But now finally.
    3. v53993
      v53993 1 March 2014 11: 25
      +7
      Md. A monkey with a gun is dangerous. Only shooting.
    4. v53993
      v53993 1 March 2014 15: 56
      +1
      On video: one of the authorities is discussing the initiatives of the Heavenly government. A simple giant politely shares his opinion. The faces of the authorities are written deep satisfaction with the changes. Ukraine’s happiness is in safe hands

      It’s interesting in what position this shit will be in the presence of children in uniforms without insignia and very similar to those who took control of the building of the Armed Forces of Crimea. I think that we will not be shown this for ethical reasons.
  3. Name
    Name 1 March 2014 10: 54
    +23
    Bet! ... Ukraine and Russia and Belarus are ONE!
    1. older
      older 1 March 2014 11: 00
      +8
      I won’t even argue ... I’m just lazily looking on the map where these Belarus are. Ukraine ... Let it be one ... But then a selfish question .. forgive the taiga. Why then they are called differently 7 Here we have Siberia ... There are a lot all .. including Belarusians and Ukrainians ... they say there is division .. like Krasnoyarsk Territory. Tolmansk Region ... But we don’t know this ... We are Siberians ...
      So ... consider that you won ... they ... these are ... one ... Well, like all people are brothers ...
      1. Name
        Name 1 March 2014 13: 24
        +2
        Taiga belay ..Good ... You can not even know about China and Japan. But Belarus and Ukraine and Russia are in the TRIEDISM.
    2. v53993
      v53993 1 March 2014 11: 26
      +1
      I do not argue, this is obvious.
    3. 120352
      120352 1 March 2014 12: 23
      +10
      Genetics has long proved that these are three parts of one, one people. Namely, a single, not three fraternal! We ought to get together again, and not please the followers of Bismarck-Dulles-Brzezinski with the realization of their dream of dividing the single and indivisible Russian nation and land, as the conditions for victory over it! Then it will be like under Alexander the Third: before doing anything in the world, they always asked permission of Russia.
  4. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 1 March 2014 10: 55
    +15
    Come back Ukraine! Stop fornication .. We are not vindictive .. Ukraine has been plundered once again and now the last stage is going on, the bloodiest to bleed us for fun to the naughty Saxons! Wake up Slavs! I’m writing this from the heart, maybe clumsily and yet ..
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    2. Corsair
      Corsair 1 March 2014 11: 10
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Come back Ukraine! Stop fornication ..

      Unfortunately, the return is seen only through blood ...
      I would like to make a mistake, but now the development of events is seen just like that ... A dead end, beyond which the fog is possibly bloody.

      What are you Ukraine ...........
      1. v53993
        v53993 1 March 2014 11: 28
        +7
        Happenes. The youngest walked. But dear. We wait.
      2. tungus
        tungus 1 March 2014 11: 42
        +5
        Quote: Corsair
        Unfortunately, the return is seen only through blood ...

        Not necessary. No, blood is possible. Blood banderlog. The rest is ...
        The situation in Crimea is a tracing paper. Technology run-in. There came "incomprehensible" people in uniform and with weapons. Politely captured all the state. structures. No screaming and dust. Then a crowd of Russian-speaking citizens came up, gathered in advance by someone, and changed all the current government to a pro-Russian one. That is, the Maidan on the other hand.
        Today, a number of deputies have already declared that the government in Kiev is not legal. Today, in the southeast, the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine will take to the streets. And it's not a fact that the same "incomprehensible" people in uniform with weapons will not appear there again.
        And so, region by region. So what can these "heavenly hundreds" of stubs do? They are ready to attack the unarmed with bats, and to drag the shitty Western prosecutors by their ties. But if warning shots to the head follow in response for hitting a man in uniform, then all the courage will immediately drain into his pants. And those Banderlog will scatter in their farms with a squeal.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 1 March 2014 12: 47
          +1
          Quote: tungus
          Not necessary. No, blood is possible. Blood banderlog.

          On one side, a war with blood is possible only for Americans who kill people with drones, but in fact it’s not a war, but a cynical murder with impunity ...
      3. 120352
        120352 1 March 2014 12: 32
        +3
        Corsair
        And childbirth is also through the blood. Moreover, the revival. It is important that the fetus comes out healthy! And without bad Bandera and Russophobic heredity.
        1. Corsair
          Corsair 1 March 2014 12: 48
          +1
          Quote: 120352
          And childbirth is also through the blood. Moreover, the revival. It is important that the fetus comes out healthy! And without bad Bandera and Russophobic heredity.

          Wouldn't mind if the "blood purification" was only at the expense of the Nazis ...
          1. 120352
            120352 1 March 2014 13: 17
            0
            Absolutely!
    3. Dilshat
      Dilshat 1 March 2014 13: 33
      +2
      The dog is buried in details! Western and Eastern Ukraine are two big differences! Ethnically, by psychotype, even genetically. It is necessary to accept only those who want to be with us. Who hates Russia, let them go as a friendly column to Nuland.
  5. buga1979
    buga1979 1 March 2014 10: 58
    +1
    Well, yes, maybe such a plan is being worked out, well, we don’t know when
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 1 March 2014 11: 15
      +3
      Quote: buga1979
      Well, yes, maybe such a plan is being worked out, well, we don’t know when

      Even if this is not true, in order to save Russia, it had to be invented.
  6. omsbon
    omsbon 1 March 2014 10: 59
    +4
    Of course, it’s good to do big things with little blood, but ordinary people are very sorry!
  7. vjatsergey
    vjatsergey 1 March 2014 11: 04
    +5
    And what? It could even be. I myself had such thoughts.
  8. Lyokha79
    Lyokha79 1 March 2014 11: 08
    +3
    Too much conspiracy theories. Although? .. What the hell is not joking.
  9. Capyar 48315
    Capyar 48315 1 March 2014 11: 08
    -1
    the article shows through a soft-Goebbelsian psyche-pseudology with false weighted patriotism based on inverted and drawn facts. I WILL SAY ONLY IF IF IT WAS A HAND OF MOSCOW, EVERYTHING HAPPENED HAS BEEN EASIER AND STARTED NOT IN KIEV, AND WHERE NOW
    1. v53993
      v53993 1 March 2014 11: 23
      +6
      the article shows through a soft-Goebbelsian psyche-pseudology with false weighted patriotism based on inverted and drawn facts. I WILL SAY ONLY IF IF IT WAS A HAND OF MOSCOW, EVERYTHING HAPPENED HAS BEEN EASIER AND STARTED NOT IN KIEV, AND WHERE NOW

      Did you understand what you said? Drink strong coffee (with sugar, for the brain).
  10. Salamander
    Salamander 1 March 2014 11: 13
    +12
    Article "+" - for the idea. It would be good if it was true ... Then Putin must be recognized as some kind of deity who guesses everything and directs everything in the right direction. Obama also needs to think: "Maybe everything I do, I am doing according to Putin's plan?" bully

    1. v53993
      v53993 1 March 2014 11: 31
      +2
      But get off the palm tree for now. And then soak ahead of time. And we still need you.
      1. 120352
        120352 1 March 2014 12: 36
        +2
        v53993
        Yes, we still need it. For Nuremberg-2.
  11. Ivanovich47
    Ivanovich47 1 March 2014 11: 14
    +2
    Russia is again to blame. But when will it end?
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 1 March 2014 11: 28
      +5
      Quote: Ivanovich47
      Russia is again to blame. But when will it end?

      When we do not have our own flag, anthem and army - that is, NEVER.
    2. 120352
      120352 1 March 2014 12: 38
      +4
      Ivanovich 47
      Ivan Andreevich Krylov is recalled:
      "You are only to blame for
      what I want to eat "...
      I see no other fault than the appetites of the West for Russia.
  12. v53993
    v53993 1 March 2014 11: 14
    +3
    Maidan. How much in this sound has merged for the Russian heart, how much has responded in it. Bender had to dig deeper, a lesson for the future.
  13. Ptah
    Ptah 1 March 2014 11: 14
    +4
    I agree with the author of the article! Well done "matROSS"!
    The bacchanalia now taking place in the fraternal country is nothing more than a political performance staged by experienced directors in Moscow.

    And even so ... What kind of patriot would be against if it is in the interests of RUSSIA?
    What is happening in Ukraine ... It makes me sick, ashamed and disgusted. It would be better of course somewhere in Texas, Florida or Oklahoma, but so far it does not work out.
    Huge territories, a strategically important coast and people close in spirit and in religion are at stake. Therefore, it seems logical all the events occurring - to maintain a fragile peace between the Slavs and to prevent the involvement of external forces.
  14. Fofan
    Fofan 1 March 2014 11: 17
    0
    nothing new. Moscow is always to blame .....
    1. 120352
      120352 1 March 2014 12: 40
      +1
      There are no other capitals worthy of attention in the world ...
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 1 March 2014 13: 43
      +2
      Quote: Fofan
      nothing new. Moscow is always to blame ...

      This is the only excuse for the current government. Hence the cries!
      The Russian Federation violates the terms of the agreement on the stationing of the Black Sea Fleet in Crimea. This was stated by the Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk during a government meeting. "We believe that now in Crimea there is an inadequate presence of Russian military personnel on the territory of the autonomy. This is nothing more than a violation of the basic requirements of the agreement on the temporary stay of the Black Sea Fleet on the territory of Ukraine," Yatsenyuk said.
      “We demand that the Russian government and the authorities withdraw their troops and return them to the place of deployment…. Russian partners, stop provoking civil and military confrontation in Ukraine,” Yatsenyuk said. The Russian Federation has increased its armed forces in Crimea by 6 soldiers, which is a flagrant violation of agreements and treaties. This was stated by and. about. Defense Minister of Ukraine Igor Tenyukh during a meeting of the Cabinet of Ministers. "During this time, the Russian Federation has made a build-up of forces by 6 thousand people, which is a gross violation. About 30 BTR-80s have also been redeployed to the territory of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea," Tenyukh said.
      According to him, Russian troops are blocking administrative buildings and military units, which is a gross violation of the agreements, including the Budapest memorandum.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-140153.html
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 1 March 2014 14: 26
        +2
        My greetings to you, Elena! hi
        in Crimea inadequate the presence of Russian troops ...

        That is, these are his words? Maybe this is a translation from Ukrainian?
        Or were we taught a different language?
        In this case, "presence" can be anything: legal - illegal and everything like that ...
        Adequate adjective inadequate in this context, in relation to the described situation.

        And if we assume that the "presence of the military" is "inadequate, then everything else in Ukraine is ADEQUATE? To what? To common sense? Or to" norms of international morality "...
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 1 March 2014 15: 28
          +2
          Quote: Ptah
          That is, these are his words? Maybe this is a translation from Ukrainian?
          Or were we taught a different language?

          Yes, those are his words. Just an indicator of the "literacy of the rulers". And also the fear of saying "illegal". They didn't really look at the documents. What if "legal", ie somewhere norms, the number of people, actions in case of emergency, etc. were negotiated. And Sevastopol as part of the ARC is a big question. What if they remember? And then what? .... Well, also residents! Say "illegal" they will make such "illegal" out of you ... Therefore, "inadequate"
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 1 March 2014 16: 53
            +1
            Quote: Egoza
            And also the fear of saying "illegal". They didn't really look at the documents. What if "legal"

            Yes. Then it is very logical.
            But yakiv is a slobber. The yak is twisted. Then you can refer to "translation difficulties" ... request
  15. Gagarin
    Gagarin 1 March 2014 11: 17
    0
    The article is not unambiguous, it’s even difficult to give an assessment, there are many contradictions.
    Even the comments of readers are much more open, simple and truthful!
  16. be0560
    be0560 1 March 2014 11: 19
    0
    Fully announced with Kapyar. Pure sophistry.
  17. spec-80
    spec-80 1 March 2014 11: 20
    +1
    The United States and Europe openly support the Syrian terrorists and Ukrainian fascists. What can I call it. Double standards. Too soft. Democrats mother of them. Anger takes
  18. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 1 March 2014 11: 25
    +1
    Quote: Corsair
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Come back Ukraine! Stop fornication ..

    Unfortunately, the return is seen only through blood ...
    I would like to make a mistake, but now the development of events is seen just like that ... A dead end, beyond which the fog is possibly bloody.

    What are you Ukraine ...........

    That's why I think "March is the farewell of a Slav." doesn't sound at rallies ..? It takes for the soul on a subconscious level .. And the blood has been pouring for a long time as the USSR was torn to pieces and now, in a brazen way, see how we are raping Ukraine .. And you can’t do anything .. These are the things ..
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 1 March 2014 15: 41
      +1
      Quote: MIKHAN
      That's why I think "March is the farewell of a Slav." doesn't sound at rallies ..?
      In the beginning, as a call: "Get up, a huge country ...", then "Farewell to the Slav" as a parting word to the struggle, and "Victory Day" as a result.
  19. 16maksim16
    16maksim16 1 March 2014 11: 28
    +2
    Maybe the author is right about what, I don’t know, he’s not an ace in politics, but Russia certainly didn’t hire militants, didn’t finance them, representatives of the Russian government didn’t rally on the Maidan, Moscow didn’t call for the overthrow of the government, as numerous envoys did so-called "democratic" countries. But on one thing I agree with the author 100%. UKRAINE IS TO BE GUILTY IN IT!
  20. Druid
    Druid 1 March 2014 11: 31
    -9
    Quote: CapYar 48315
    IF IT WAS A HAND OF MOSCOW, EVERYTHING HAPPENED WOULD HAVE BEEN EASIER AND STARTED NOT IN KIEV, AND THERE WHERE NOW
    “Moskva” seems to have gained experience. In Georgia there was a schoolboy's scribbles, a teenager's hand with Syria, the North Korean crisis was turned on, the States were worn out, Snowden surfaced, and this was already a slap in the face, now something close to mature, in my opinion the author is not far from the truth.
    The clash of interests of empires, in this game, both Ukrainians, and Belarusians, and Russian supplies, victims of the experiment. The only question is who is the experimenter? ...
    For all the other descendants of the scoop, there is nothing better than to stay away from all this, because the same Euro-association and European integration, a chance to stop being an experimental rabbit.
    So if they cope with the situation and, in a sense, get off the hook, they will flee from Moscow and Washington, having smeared themselves with Europe and hiding behind it, we will only envy them later. Because all these games in the post-Soviet space will end in one - war. We all, the former space of the USSR, are going to war, step by step approach this moment, and we do not need enemies, we ourselves will tear each other's throats.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 2 March 2014 01: 06
      +1
      wassat Haha, well, you are a humorist though. "They will run away ... and from Washington, having greased themselves to Europe and hiding behind it, we will only envy them later." As if Europe is not under the US cap, the truth has weakened a little. The same Snowden said a lot,
      contradict yourself at every turn. Therefore, you just silently put cons. And believe me, no one is envious of the Bulgarians, the Baltic states, etc. You forgot that you are on a Russian site. And Russia as an empire was built just, first of all, by Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Russians, i.e. game against us. And they are pushing us to war in accordance with this game, and will be happy if we tear each other's throats (the game was a success). And we scoops, i.e. Soviet, it is best seen. In Ukraine, they played arrogant against us (that is, everything was visible), I think Putin is simply adjusting.
  21. White53
    White53 1 March 2014 11: 32
    +3
    To take a good beast, the hunter needs endurance and patience. Thank God V.V.P. and a good hunter and a great fisherman! God is with us, everything will be fine!
  22. bomg.77
    bomg.77 1 March 2014 11: 35
    +2
    Emma / 7 years /: Granny! Do you know what happened? Ukrainians attacked Ukraine there,smileand not the hand of Moscow. The mouth of a baby ...
  23. skifd
    skifd 1 March 2014 11: 37
    0
    Article pseudo-patriot provocateur. Even disassemble laziness. Ready to catch cons. hi
  24. Altona
    Altona 1 March 2014 11: 38
    0
    Did the author smoke at all? There are many forum users who urge to play with militants and terrorists, such as, let’s say we will have Russian terrorists who will spoil America and the West ... This is a very dangerous misconception ...
  25. dr.star75
    dr.star75 1 March 2014 11: 41
    +2
    The article is a little weird. But if this is so, (in 50 years we will find out) then respect to the "strategic planning center"
  26. Alekseir162
    Alekseir162 1 March 2014 11: 42
    +1
    22.05.1949 - US Secretary of Defense J. Forrestal jumped out of the window shouting "Russians are coming!"

    This is what the Georgian warrior base looked like after a five-day war. The article is clearly custom-made, minus definitely for stupidity.
  27. 020205
    020205 1 March 2014 11: 43
    +3
    As they say, nothing personal, it's just a business approach !!! I would be glad if this were true. I especially liked:
    Ukraine - I'm sorry, you yourself are to blame
  28. bulvas
    bulvas 1 March 2014 11: 45
    +5
    So it was, as the author describes or in another way - it does not matter.
    The main thing is that the original Russian lands should return to Russia. There will be no other chance
    1. Alexander D.
      Alexander D. 1 March 2014 11: 55
      -10%
      Quote: bulvas
      So it was, as the author describes or in another way - it does not matter.
      The main thing is that the original Russian lands should return to Russia. There will be no other chance

      Since when is Crimea a native Russian? At first it was native Greek, then native Roman, then native Hun, then native Tatar, and only in 1774 did it become native Russian. So natively, the Russians need to stand in line. And all the custom articles about the fact that there still the princes of Kiev were sent to Tsar-grad from the shores of the Crimea ... so it’s right - the princes were KIEVSKY !!!!!
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 1 March 2014 12: 07
        +8
        Quote: Alexander D.
        Since when is Crimea a native Russian? At first it was native Greek, then native Roman, then native Hun, then native Tatar, and only in 1774 did it become native Russian.



        It’s never been truly Ukrainian, all that is there is a merit of Russia
      2. 120352
        120352 1 March 2014 13: 09
        +1
        Crimea, before its conquest by the Russian Empire in the Russian-Turkish war, was Turkish. Under an agreement with Turkey, Crimea can be either Russian or Turkish. There was no talk of Tatars at that time. There were none. The Tatars formed later as a synthetic ethnic group of non-Russian peoples who lived in this territory until the end of the war. It is based on the Turks.
        With the same success can be called the modern population of Great Britain, Australia, America, New Zealand, Iceland and others. Also unreasonable. However, it was this population that created the culture in their places of residence. And as for the Ancient Greeks or Romans, do not forget that these peoples simply do not exist for a long time. Modern Greeks have nothing to do with the ancients, as well as modern Italians with the Romans. The modern peoples of the world are rarely autochthonous. Autochthonous peoples are isolates that degenerate due to closely related blood ties. Modern peoples are more often the result of cross-breeding of peoples who lived in similar "feeding landscapes" (LN Gumilyov. Ethnogenesis and the biosphere of the earth.). Take Germany, for example. Until the beginning of the 19th century, these were scattered lands where people spoke different languages. In France, the process of uniting different peoples into a single and the formation of a single state began somewhat earlier. But both in Germany and in France, you can find representatives of different nations speaking different dialects / dialects (like Russian, Belarusian, Ukrainian). So the processes, if not resettlement, then the movement of peoples, their mixing continue now.
      3. Aleksys2
        Aleksys2 1 March 2014 13: 39
        +3
        Quote: Alexander D.
        the princes were KIEV !!!!!

        Yes, they were Kiev! But not Ukrainian!
  29. rassel0889
    rassel0889 1 March 2014 11: 49
    +4
    Listen, and the author is right in something! When the Maidan began, I had a strong feeling that this was Putin’s plan to return Ukraine to Russian rails. And the further it goes, the more I am convinced of this. Crimea as a starting point, now I think the South-East will be connected, and then I do not envy the Maidan authorities. In essence, they will turn out to be extreme in the eyes of the people, and Yanukovych will probably return to his homeland as a savior, and people themselves will soon start asking for it.
  30. f.lourens
    f.lourens 1 March 2014 11: 51
    0
    In the article, in my opinion, the author’s desire is simply expressed. In fact, it seems to me that everything is much more complicated and scary .... Dear forum users, is there anyone from the Zaporizhzhya region ??? the second day I can’t reach my friends in Primorsk
  31. Severok
    Severok 1 March 2014 11: 51
    -2
    "Now to the point. The bacchanalia that is now taking place in the fraternal country is nothing more than a political performance directed by experienced directors in Moscow. I propose to return everything to comprehend, for a start, half a step, by historical standards, back." - I read it and did not read it further, because it is clear from the preamble - nonsense.
    1. vlad.svargin
      vlad.svargin 1 March 2014 13: 37
      +1
      Severok
      "Now to the point. The bacchanalia now taking place in a fraternal country is nothing more than a political performance directed by experienced directors in Moscow.

      Is the dismemberment of the USSR the same performance of Moscow? By the way, this performance is still being played by some "uncles" who are scaring Putin with the consequences.
      This performance has already been performed for more than one hundred years. And now these "directors" are trying to prevent the disunited Russian republics from uniting into a single whole. It's a nightmare for them!
      There is one of M. Nostradamus's statements (in modern language) "When three sisters unite, Europe will be in a terrible panic." Only after the collapse of the USSR, the prediction of Nostradamus became clear, although it may just be a coincidence, but an optimistic coincidence.
      1. Ptah
        Ptah 1 March 2014 14: 36
        0
        Quote: vlad.svargin
        "When the three sisters unite, Europe will be in terrible panic."

        I really like your comparison, but for the sake of objectivity ...
        I remember. The translation was almost literal: "If three big COUNTRIES unite, like the sisters of the father, then Europe will be horrified." Some "smart guys" associated this with the annexation of Poland and France by Germany (father-Fürrer). hi
  32. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 1 March 2014 11: 59
    +1
    <<< Someone here spoke for the immediate provision of "military assistance" to Ukraine. This will not happen, believe me, not now. The fruit should ripen, it is green. >>>
    It looks like the West - the curator of the Maidan is in big trouble with the Bandera neo-Nazi thugs who, in fact, have seized power in western Ukraine and Kiev, violating the laws of Ukraine! They have already caused a decisive rejection not only in the South - East of Ukraine and in the Crimea, which is fraught with a real collapse of Ukraine: the process of secession of Crimea has already begun! But the West itself is already finding it difficult to imagine these thugs - the Nazis with their openly anti-democratic laws as "peaceful protesters" who came to power! There is NO money in the treasury of Ukraine even to pay for pensions, benefits, salaries, but now we need at least 35 billion greenbacks and NOBODY in the West is in no hurry to give them (the problems themselves are above the roof)! A complete economic COLLAPSE is coming in Ukraine! The West is at a loss, not knowing what to do, and is limited to only appeals, wishes and advice! And how well it was originally conceived by the West: to bring the democratic opposition prepared by it in the form of the 5th column to power without any excesses, since the decayed corrupt government was rapidly losing its influence among the people and was ready to surrender. And now - the most serious problem and does not smell of champagne!
  33. AndreyS
    AndreyS 1 March 2014 12: 01
    +3
    Quote: Novel 1977
    Meanwhile ... Residents of Western Ukraine with a sense of deep satisfaction met the offensive of the European order. It was they who were the first to come out of submission by malignant possessions.

    One thing can be said: Thank you very much Oleksandr Muzichko, what are you doing for Russia ...
    There are more such cases on camera and in the government, which would then give an official justification for the international search for a terrorist, murderer and appeals to international courts for crimes committed in Russia and other countries.
    The general tone of the article is very reflective with a "rain" effect, but there are logical seeds (especially about "Maneuvers are a sign to the West - we are ready to go all the way, don't bother!").
  34. muginov2015
    muginov2015 1 March 2014 12: 10
    -4
    A delusional little article, Vova doesn’t know what to do with the Russian economy ... well, so fuck ... Honduras would have surrendered to him beside him with a bunch of Holodroots + also with such claims.
  35. loses
    loses 1 March 2014 12: 25
    +3
    Politics is a dirty and cynical affair. as there is a classic, the continuation of the war by other means. Now the Russian Federation has a good position and we will win this chess game. It all comes down not to emotions but to a clear confrontation with the United States - NATO stronghold. You will see Beavis and Badhead doing America-2! :)
  36. saag
    saag 1 March 2014 12: 36
    0
    Quote: rassel0889
    , and Yanukovych will probably return to his homeland as a savior, and people themselves will soon begin to ask about it.

    and everything goes in a circle, this is a loop of time, this is impossible :-)
  37. valokordin
    valokordin 1 March 2014 12: 38
    0
    The article creates a double impression, but this is what a military pilot, a sniper, an order carrier, an Afghan, wrote to me, my first commander in the SVAUL, as I remember him, a wonderful comrade, a great pilot and commander, now Kremenchug pensioner. He believes that everything that is broadcast on Russian television, to put it mildly, is not entirely true. Basically, the protest on the Maidan was against the oligarchs and the rich, and the country hates the thief and the rogue Yanukovych. And Bandera, as they are called, are simple guys from Western Ukraine who fight for ordinary people and hate the rich. Skype chat failed. He answered, I don’t believe Bandera, I believe you.
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 1 March 2014 12: 55
      +1
      perhaps, but not the main thing
    2. muhomor
      muhomor 1 March 2014 14: 24
      +2

      But the devil is in the little things. First of all, against Yanek, and secondly, against Russia and the Russians. This is exactly what the Nazis in Germany came to power in. In the wake of populist slogans, national fascists can come to power.
  38. starper
    starper 1 March 2014 12: 53
    +1
    If so, the flag is in our hands. It's hard to believe that there are fools overseas who pay for the "Maidan" Bendera's people were not born recently.
  39. Indifferent
    Indifferent 1 March 2014 12: 54
    +3
    The author repeats the hackneyed cliches that are so popular now in Ukraine. Putin "put" Yanukovych. Won the elections (?) And is now carrying out his insidious plans to divide Ukraine! And what is curious is that most people in Ukraine believe in this! Stupidity brought to the point of absurdity. Ukrainians have always lived the best in the USSR. There was a large part of the industry, magnificent black soil, trained personnel ... And with the collapse of the USSR, all this was lost! Eaten up, as the people say. The standard of living has dropped below the Albanian level. Well, who is to blame if not Russia?
    From conversations, interviews and other conversations, I concluded that most (not all, but most) of the people living in Ukraine hate Russia and Russians. This is both envy and understanding that their Ukrainian mentality turned out to be far below average and much more everyday. That is why they are so eager to go to Europe, hoping to heal better and prove with these "damned pits" that Ukraine is better than Russia.
    Apparently now they need to go through hunger and cold in order to understand common everyday truths.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 1 March 2014 16: 02
      +6
      Exactly ! And in all their troubles, the Russians and V. Putin personally are to blame wassat
  40. Andrey Ulyanovsky
    Andrey Ulyanovsky 1 March 2014 12: 55
    0


    "Food is a tricky thing. You need to be able to eat, but imagine - most people do not know how to eat at all. You need not only to know what to eat, but also when and how." Bulgakov M.A. "Dog's heart".
  41. wow
    wow 1 March 2014 13: 06
    +1
    The author is a fat plus !!! Yes, indignation against thieves in power is very present, BUT, who from the so-called. "political elite" of Ukraine was engaged in something other than theft from his country and its people !? Kravchuk -!? , Kuchma -!? , Yushchenko -!? Yanukovych did exactly the same thing (with an accuracy of ten decimal places). With the first three, there was still something relatively "painless" to steal along the falling, of course. But Yanukovych was already "lucky" less than his predecessors. The essence and quintessence of the "Ukrainian Vlada" (of any political color) is access to the "trough" from which one can painlessly slurp. Any subsequent "Vlad" (in the case of Ukraine) will not differ in any way from the "forward". The "assistants" and "democratizers" from the West and the United States are well aware of this. Therefore, the "outraged citizens of ukrainy" are just a blank canvas on which you can "paint" everything you need !!!
  42. nikkon09
    nikkon09 1 March 2014 13: 07
    +1
    Gentlemen, comrades ... enlighten not really the Anglo-Saxon politicians, have we outplayed them? At one time it was like that, according to Napoleon’s times, they did our technology, so the revolutions, the 1st and 2nd world wars, the collapse of the USSR, etc. etc. Well, tapericha will trample on us. smile
  43. loginovich
    loginovich 1 March 2014 13: 16
    +1
    older
    And we are no longer fraternal peoples ... [/ quote]
    I don’t think so, but the gas pipe spoiled them a lot.
  44. deman73
    deman73 1 March 2014 13: 30
    +1
    article is very good almost everything will happen
  45. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 1 March 2014 13: 35
    0
    Something somehow of course I want to think like that, as the author of the article says. Type we are so insidious that the whole world on our ropes, like a puppet. But here the experience gained in life in 1985-1999 onwards somehow cries out - do not believe it! Our present do not know how to build such Machiavellian intrigues. They are simple as a nail. Porut at best and shut up, falling to his knees in front of the West: ((((
  46. schizophrenic
    schizophrenic 1 March 2014 13: 38
    +2
    Another old tactic, where the iron can’t cope there the gold donkey will cope. The system has been worked out for a long time by the West, and when Russia began to behave as well, screams began. Politics is a dirty business and there can be a lot of blood, but the most important thing is who knows how to further calculate the moves and substitute the desired figure, he will win.
  47. AlexA
    AlexA 1 March 2014 13: 54
    0
    Quote: bulvas
    the protest on the Maidan was against the oligarchs and the rich, and the country hates the thief and the rogue Yanukovych. And Bandera, as they are called, are simple guys from Western Ukraine who fight for ordinary people and hate the rich.

    Dear Valocordin, Your comments on another thread really impressed me. But now I don’t know how to perceive this your statement.
    It doesn’t add up: if “against the rich,” then why did they not throw stones at the rich, but the same SIMPLE guys, only in uniform? Or do you not know what "Order!" Is? I feel - you know. And why break glass? And why should the captured ministries pollute? HOW does this help the "fight against oligarchs"? And why, as their new leaders, they approved the SAME "thieves, rogues, rich men" who have already shown themselves in the governments of the former presidents? And they were well known to these "ordinary people". Either - a selfish cynical calculation, or - complete stupidity.
    I understand that commanders must be trusted. But not so much as to agree with complete nonsense.
  48. stillrat
    stillrat 1 March 2014 13: 55
    0
    Too complicated for a circus. This is firstly.
    Secondly, Russia got the same crowd of Holodroots on its border controlled by the Nazis, and this crowd will very likely soon rush to Russia now in the form of refugees. There are no positive results!
    P, S Yesterday I spoke on Skype with friends from Ukraine, the brainwashing results are obvious, for an hour I was told about spies from Russia who ruined Ukraine and killed poor boys and girls on the Maidan, although they are adults with higher education. The question is how to name the person who burns another person alive, plunges into a heavy stupor. The worst thing is that two weeks ago they did not hesitate to call him a fascist.
  49. lelcom
    lelcom 1 March 2014 14: 15
    +1
    I had to register. I could not get past this nonsense. I have such a drawback I can’t pass by ......., the Greeks called such people doing nothing.
    Yes, yes, Putin is sleeping and dreaming of reuniting the Soviet Union. Author, how much do Americans pay you for propaganda?
    I won’t argue whose news is better. I will ask a question. What will the new Ukrainian authorities do with the right, which are essentially gangsters, occupy areas for which they do not pay rent, engage in trivial robbery and other things .......
    Where will the new authorities get the money? Will give? Boogaga.
    I will introduce myself. Ethnic Ukrainian, half Westerner. :) I was born and live in Latvia, my native language is Ukrainian, Russian, as you see, I know quite well.
    I can tell you in detail how it lives in Europe.
    So, Latvia. Power belongs to the people of Latvia, that is ... to Latvians, the remaining nationalities are second grade. There is a language inspection in Latvia, if 2 Russians at work speak to each other, you understand, even if it is a private business ....... a fine :) There are more than 80 differences between citizens and non-citizens by profession, ownership of property and other things.
    On March 16, every year we have a holiday, SS Legionnaire’s Day. Not state, but ministers and other public figures are in the forefront.
    In Latvia there is not a single large enterprise owned by ethnic Latvian. Everything was bought by foreign owners. For example, sugar factories are liquidated. Agriculture in Latvia is not very favorable, but it was profitable to grow sugar beets. The peasants scored loans, and then they were broken off. There were riots that were brutally crushed. In January 2009, riots took place in Riga, very similar to the Maidan. People were against the government. Special means were used against them, the majority received real criminal sentences, a minor guy was knocked out with a rubber bullet from 3 meters (in Latvia it is forbidden to use a firearm against minors, the policeman wasn’t for anything) and put for several years. It would seem, why Latvian politicians were frequent on the Maidan, if at home all the protests are brutally suppressed? People, have a head.
    All that Europe and America need from Ukraine is to make Russia bad. They do not care about Ukraine. This Maidan is not the last. When Ukrainians will raise their communal apartment to the European level and gas prices ...
    This year the European gay parade takes place in Riga, but next year it is quite possible in Kiev. Get ready. :))))))
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 1 March 2014 14: 56
      +1
      He served the term 1988-90 near Liepaja. Even then, the local Labussians very much wanted to separate from the Union. Probably now these farmers all live well. Wealthy and satisfied. I envy :(
  50. Stinger
    Stinger 1 March 2014 15: 20
    -2
    If it's humor, then it's pretty black. If this is an analysis, then it looks like a urine test done at a winery. Well, if philosophy, then it’s definitely attic.