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Oleg Tsarev: "It is necessary to keep the interim government in Kiev from the use of force against civilians"

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Oleg Tsarev: "It is necessary to keep the interim government in Kiev from the use of force against civilians"



Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine from the Party of Regions Oleh Tsaryov told the Voice of Russia how much legitimate the new government of Ukraine should be considered, who holds power in the regions of the country and how ordinary people feel

Ilyashenko: Hello, dear listeners. On the latest events in Ukraine, we are talking with the deputy of the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine from the Party of Regions, Oleg Tsarev. How can you assess the level of legitimacy of the new Ukrainian government?

Tsarev: It is highly doubtful. We have only four reasons that lead to the resignation of the president - his own statement, impeachment, death and illness. But none of these four reasons.

Amendments to the Constitution are not signed by the President, changes to the Basic Law were adopted with gross violation of the procedure of the regulation. Changes to the Constitution of Ukraine should be made in half a year: sessions, a constitutional majority, an appeal to the Constitutional Court, and so on. All this has piled up a series of not entirely legal documents. Each subsequent relies on the previous one. This whole design is very flimsy and causes a lot of doubts.

Ilyashenko: Does this government really have powerful levers? Is it able to overcome the crisis in Ukraine?

Tsarev: After they dismissed law enforcement officers who defended the authorities, the authorities themselves can no longer protect themselves. Why is the cabinet claim on the Maidan? Because other power verticals do not exist. The first function of the state is to protect citizens.
Now the state practically does not fulfill this function. Police demoralized. In the streets walking armed people in masks. Now every robber can put on a mask, pick up a machine gun and say that he is a supporter of Euromaidan, and not a single policeman will obstruct him.
All this makes the situation in Ukraine quite serious and difficult. We have a semi-legal government, there is no control and law and order, there is no systematic work of law enforcement agencies, incomprehensible cordons on roads that are incomprehensible people and, based on incomprehensible criteria, they let someone through, and others don’t, check the cars. All this is not good and can lead to very negative scenarios.

Ilyashenko: Who holds power in the regions of Ukraine?

Tsarev: On the one hand, it is carried out by local councils. On the other hand, the regions are complaining. I constantly communicate with my colleagues from different regions, they say that armed people come, bring some mandates, it is not clear who has been signed, and no one puts obstacles. They enter state buildings, give commands. Here is such a chaos.

Ilyashenko: How do you assess the idea of ​​federalization of Ukraine?

Tsarev: Federalization is a means. We must talk about the ultimate goals. We want to live in a single state, we want there to be no devastation, that there is civil peace and tranquility. And the methods that can lead to this result may be different, including federalization.

Ilyashenko: How do you assess the economic situation in Ukraine?

Tsarev: The situation is very complicated. We are in a pre-default condition. Here the events influenced the Independence, in the center of Kiev. The revolutionary situation could not affect the economic situation.

We have armed people on the streets. If they stop paying salaries to state employees, pensions, including benefits to Afghans (who act with the Right Sector on the Maidan), these armed people can engage in looting. Now these facts take place - both looting and robbery, but they are not of mass character. In the event of a continuing crisis, given the number weaponsarmed men, this all can lead to massive robberies.

Aggravates the situation and the semi-legitimacy of the government. For example, in Kosovo, where there was no legitimate government, NATO countries could not lend, provided only material assistance. Such a government can only take aid, but cannot sign loans. Everyone understands that there will be issues with a refund if the government is half-legitimate.

In addition, Kosovo is a very small one, and Ukraine is a very large country, and the financial assistance to prevent the devastation in Ukraine from occurring amounts to billions of dollars, which is a very large amount. Whether European countries and the United States are ready to allocate tens of billions of dollars in order to keep Ukraine afloat is a big question.

Ilyashenko: Now the situation in the Crimea is in the center of attention. Can you comment on what is happening there?

Tsarev: About the same thing happens as on Independence a couple of months ago. Peaceful protests, although a woman has already died as a result. This is very bad, but, nevertheless, it is necessary to understand that everything must be done so that the militants who are armed with seized weapons do not go to the south-east of Ukraine so that civil clashes do not start. We must keep our provisional government in Kiev from the use of force to civilians.

Ilyashenko: Is it realistic to choose the legitimate president of 25 in May? Is there enough political will for this? Most importantly, are there any real candidates for this post?

Tsarev: There is no exact means. As for forces, we already hear statements that the armed Maidan will not disperse, that it will control the elections. It turns out that the elections will take place at the point of the guns. Looking at the radicalism of the actions and statements of representatives of the Maidan, I think that it will be at least unsafe to participate in these elections for candidates who will not reflect the point of view of the Maidan.

Ilyashenko: How does the population of eastern Ukraine react to what is happening?

Tsarev: The population of the south-east of Ukraine is unorganized. Protests on Independence seriously prepared for many years, and all operations took place according to a plan that was prepared for March, but due to the non-signing of an association agreement, it was launched earlier. Nevertheless, these plans were anyway, non-governmental organizations were very actively involved in them.

In the southeast, this is not. But now there are a lot of spontaneous protests, for example, around monuments that they are trying to dismantle. People specifically take to the streets, arrange duty. Unfortunately, the Party of Regions in the main part expressed support for the current parliament, votes for the government, and there is practically no political force that could unite and head these protests.

Ilyashenko: What kind of support is needed from Russia?

Tsarev: First of all, diplomatic. It is necessary to do everything so that against some people in the south-east of Ukraine, the militants, armed in the literal sense of the word, as well as armed with anti-Soviet and anti-Russian ideology, are not involved. We must protect the people.
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  1. bomg.77
    bomg.77 1 March 2014 08: 07
    +6
    so that now militants armed with seized weapons do not go to the southeast of Ukraine, so that civil clashes do not begin. We must keep our interim government in Kiev from using force against civilians.
    There is a danger that they can arrange pogroms in places where Russians are not densely populated, and they will not poke into the eastern regions.
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 1 March 2014 08: 20
      +1
      Tsarev: The situation is very complicated. We are in a pre-default state. Here events on the Maidan, in the center of Kiev, influenced. The revolutionary situation could not but affect the economic situation.
      Nobody will save the economic situation, the last hope collapsed this morning, after the statement of the head of the IMF. She said in translation into the publicly available "Go Nakh"
      1. Tatarus
        Tatarus 1 March 2014 08: 34
        +2
        What a smart grandmother.
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 1 March 2014 09: 07
          +2
          Quote: Tatarus
          What a smart grandmother.
          Smart because the head of the IMF or that did not give money?))
        2. Horst78
          Horst78 1 March 2014 10: 14
          +2
          Quote: Tatarus
          What a smart grandmother.

          And then, with such experience in a brothel.
    2. SibRUS
      SibRUS 1 March 2014 08: 40
      +9
      The redistribution is already going on there, the racket feels great.
    3. older
      older 1 March 2014 08: 57
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      It is very doubtful ... Arrange a pogrom now at a loss ... More recently, we talked about how everyone benefits from blood .. And it spilled ... Now the situation has changed radically ... Maidanut people should kiss Crimeans ... Only they can give a piece of bread western. Let Russian, but bread.
      1. v53993
        v53993 1 March 2014 09: 23
        +3
        Maydanuty must kiss the Crimeans ...

        Who should get a kiss of Judah? In my opinion this is too much.
  2. Roman Skomorokhov
    Roman Skomorokhov 1 March 2014 08: 07
    +12
    In general, I have been watching Tsarev from the very beginning of the outrages. I like him. Calm, reasonable. And he did not disown PR, no matter what. His b as president ...
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 1 March 2014 08: 14
      +2
      Quote: Banshee
      In general, I have been watching Tsarev from the very beginning of the outrages. I like him
      In my opinion, for all this kotovashi, the only one of which can be perceived as a trustworthy person, although I believed Dopkin one moment, which I regret now ((
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 March 2014 08: 36
      +1
      Quote: Banshee
      His presidency ...

      And whoever will follow him now, Yanukovych has discredited the government so much that I don’t know how he imagines it at all. Yes, and the very participation in the presidential election will break us all the cards with Crimea.
      1. older
        older 1 March 2014 09: 01
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And who will follow him now,

        repeat And if it’s no secret, who to follow then? , not even maydanutye, as it turned out, even Daddy Makhno no longer has ... today Tsarey is a real candidate against any tyagniklitskyatsenyuk ..
      2. bomg.77
        bomg.77 1 March 2014 09: 03
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And who will follow him now,
        He doesn’t have so many admirers, he still cannot fully say what he wants, he is afraid! A video was added to his popularity when banderlogs came to him. A normal man!
      3. Skiff-2
        Skiff-2 1 March 2014 11: 59
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And whoever will follow him now, Yanukovych has discredited the government so much that I don’t know how he imagines it at all. Yes, and the very participation in the presidential election will break us all the cards with Crimea.

        Sasha, we do not have another president now, his very existence legitimizes the liberation struggle. Have you read the Decree of the President of Ukraine No. 90/2014 of 27.02.2014/21/22? Some consider him a fake, but not all, some unit commanders take him not only seriously, but also effectively. Have you heard about the refusal of the Ukrainian Alpha to disarm the Golden Eagle? For several days, Yanek darted along Ukrainian roads, hiding from the persecution of several foreign intelligence services at once, what kind of connection is there? Direct setup. For a week, the whole essence of the fascist rebellion turned inside out, all the meanness, lies, treason, oath-crime, the role of foreign intelligence services. It became possible to speak about this aloud because reality itself illustrated. At the time of February XNUMX-XNUMX, the forces on the streets of Kiev were too unequal (Ukraine is a weak state in terms of power), the appearance of weapons by the rebels would lead to a terrible meat grinder in the center of Kiev with an uncertain end. Now the war is turning from a civilian into a national liberation war, time has been won for the population to realize what has happened. Do not think badly of us, in Ukraine there are many officers who are faithful to the oath. This is just the beginning . And I see only Tsarev as the future president. Olezhok act, do not fail.
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    4. SibRUS
      SibRUS 1 March 2014 09: 20
      +7
      After this video I generally respect him!
      1. bomg.77
        bomg.77 1 March 2014 10: 14
        +1
        Quote: SibRUS
        After this video I generally respect him!
        Yes, this video hiNormal man.
        1. Maxsh
          Maxsh 1 March 2014 11: 19
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          iron nerves
      2. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 1 March 2014 10: 46
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        Quote: SibRUS
        After this video I generally respect him!


        Roof snipers give a lot of confidence. What would they do to him if they were not?
      3. Skiff-2
        Skiff-2 1 March 2014 12: 20
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        Quote: SibRUS
        After this video I generally respect him!

        This is the behavior of a real man! An example to the rest.
        And now the details of the death of the Dnepropetrovsk paratroopers during the march to Kiev. About 800 guys left without weapons in tented cars, in front of a head guard in a passenger car with plainclothes officers, who discovered an ambush - at least 300 heavily armed attack aircraft along the line. They reported to Kiev, from there a command came to break through, but the boys are unarmed, the road is narrow, the embankment is high. During the turn of the column, one of the cars turned over; three fighters died. The commander returned the column to the unit. In Kiev, there was a catastrophic lack of strength, all the forces of Berkut, VV, PPS and even cadets of the school of the Ministry of Internal Affairs were there. What managed to escape the sea of ​​blood is the price of the shame of Yanukovych.
        And Crimea OH.NEHEALS OF HAPPINESS. Helicopters in the sky are very invigorating.
    5. 222222
      222222 1 March 2014 17: 01
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      Banshee SU Today, 08:07 AM
      In general, I observe Tsarev from the very beginning of the outrage. I like him / "everyone likes him .. Charming smile .. melancholic calm .. one thing is strange, somehow he appeared at the right time and did not leave the TV screens and now does not leave .. And on the 1st at Solovyov .. (and most importantly, the judgments of Solovyov and his about the situation in Ukraine and the ways of their solution coincide - DO NOT start a war and DO NOT change borders) .. earlier he was an active guest in political shows on the Ukrainian TV channel TVI ...
  3. mirag2
    mirag2 1 March 2014 08: 08
    +3
    Well, yes.
    Try to hold on to people like Yarosh — they are fanatics if they are quiet and kind in words, while Europe and the USA will claim that they are humane people who were dictated by Yanukovych in business, and they just wanted to live freely ...
    1. Edward72
      Edward72 1 March 2014 08: 14
      +8
      Such as Yarosh need to be eliminated physically and not any negotiations.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 1 March 2014 09: 28
        +2
        Quote: Edward72
        Such as Yarosh need to be eliminated physically and not any negotiations.

        And very quickly, until he hid in the caches with his accomplices!
        1. Horst78
          Horst78 1 March 2014 10: 21
          +1
          Quote: Egoza

          And very quickly, until he hid in the caches with his accomplices!

          And we will find there. Unfortunately, the experience is rich.
    2. older
      older 1 March 2014 09: 06
      +2
      Quote: mirag2
      Try to hold such as Yarosh-

      It’s immediately obvious that you grew up in a calm area of ​​a big city, which means you don’t know what a street fight is.
      but I grew up there. where for any word they ask you ... Where the love for a girl really needs to be protected not in a slam. but with fists ...
      so people like this very Yarosh understand perfectly when a yushka starts to flow out of all the holes in the face of the face .. you need to destroy it with a dozen or two, the rest will run away from the sight of a rabbit ... Believe me, I know ...
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 1 March 2014 08: 11
    +4
    Maidan workers still do not understand what deep processes they launched in the minds of people-limiters in the person of legitimate authority are removed and people in different parts of UKRAINE will decide for themselves which government they need -and Maidan workers will not be able to manage this process-the US will also get into an adventure that will end in their defeat .
    1. raketnik
      raketnik 1 March 2014 08: 41
      +3
      but why should the states be afraid they completed their pack of jackals their quarrels settled it between Russia and the EU, all the guys have to scribble pisyuk which of you is more important and we will stand aside to see who starts to win.
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 1 March 2014 09: 58
        0
        why should the states be afraid of their task
        -SET THERE ARE NOT THEY ONE SUCH SMART - the struggle is no longer with the Syrians, but with us - and this is a very big difference.
        If RUSSIA REFUSES the alleged nobility with respect to the USA, the victory will be ours, I have no doubt about it.
        For thousands of miles. from its territory, the United States hopes to defeat RUSSIA on its borders and territories — this is upward recklessness — definitely the United States will crash.
    2. bomg.77
      bomg.77 1 March 2014 10: 20
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      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Maidan workers still do not understand what underlying processes they launched in the minds of people-limiters in the face of law
      These homeless people on the Maidan, do not even imagine that the world was confronted with the third world
  5. siberalt
    siberalt 1 March 2014 08: 16
    +5
    Something Tsarev suspiciously stayed with us and actively participates in many TV programs, gives out interviews. One gets the impression that Russia is preparing in Moscow a new sane Ukrainian government. Ugh, ugh! what
    1. major071
      major071 1 March 2014 08: 28
      +7
      They are preparing to replace Yanukovych when he (Yanek) wins his game.
  6. Name
    Name 1 March 2014 08: 17
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    The population of southeastern Ukraine is unorganized-that is the ONLY PROBLEM. The Head is Needed! There are almost 1,5 million Russians in Crimea ...And I won’t believe there THOSE WHO ARE NEEDED TO BE FOR AN INDEPENDENT UKRAINE IN THE INTERESTS OF RUSSIA.
  7. mak210
    mak210 1 March 2014 08: 17
    +1
    Nice guy, experienced business executive, 4 children. Only the education is somehow strange: "Moscow Engineering and Technical Institute, engineer-physicist", there is no such university in Moscow and never has been. However, Stalin in today's understanding of education did not have anything at all.
  8. stroporez
    stroporez 1 March 2014 08: 22
    +1
    tank division on the border, I think, sobering up Natsik .......
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 1 March 2014 08: 38
      +3
      Quote: stroporez
      the tank division on the border, I think, sober up the Natsik ....

      Do not cool, they are stupid! they believed in 2004 that the United States would help them. Now they were eager for power and believed that the Germans would come and build roads for them. Now they believe that if the Russians come, then NATO will come and save them. The Russians are in Crimea, but NATO is not goes, but you can’t prove anything to the ram. All in one answer - Glory to Ukraine fool
      1. stroporez
        stroporez 1 March 2014 10: 00
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        Glory to the heroes! wassat already wrote, the amazing land of Ukraine ........ the number of heroes per unit area is simply prohibitive .........
  9. saag
    saag 1 March 2014 08: 29
    +2
    Quote: mak210
    Moscow Engineering Institute

    maybe engineering-physical, what's on kashirka?
    1. mak210
      mak210 1 March 2014 08: 34
      0
      Bullshit, of course, but this is information including from official sites.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 1 March 2014 09: 44
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        Quote: mak210
        this information is also from official sites.

        And you are looking at his personal website.http: //tsarov.com.ua/biografiya.html It clearly says - engineering-physical. Well, and the "official sites" - there girls fill out with the current education, so they beguiled
  10. Name
    Name 1 March 2014 08: 29
    0
    The first function of the state is to protect citizens.-That's interesting how Ukrainian citizens perceive this:
  11. Sadikoff
    Sadikoff 1 March 2014 08: 36
    0
    The putsch in Ukraine is the same sobering soul for everyone who has played in Western demagoguery. The putsch will last so long until it is sobering, they will not be allowed to be outrageous. Even the Maidan’s men need money that they simply pull out from the citizens of Ukraine. Police, yes power itself is frightened, the army has no one to support except the legitimate President. I especially ask Yarosh not to finish, it’s an easy end, he should be judged in White Swans for re-education. The wails of the Western authorities in defense of their children are formal, they have such a role. Otherwise, they would shut off Bandera’s oxygen and find the money, print it, you might think there were problems with the paper. Certain Forces looked at Comrade Putin and decided to bet on him, the United States didn’t need reform, reconstruction, or scrap
    (Underline whatever applicable).
  12. laptev2014
    laptev2014 1 March 2014 08: 38
    +1
    calm, sane person. credible
  13. v53993
    v53993 1 March 2014 08: 43
    +3
    Are European countries, the United States ready to allocate tens of billions of dollars in order to keep Ukraine afloat - a big question.

    But is Europe ready for the fact that Ukraine will break into it with a bare booty and an automatic machine for an advantage? Benderlogs will not go east anymore. They will be soaked there according to a simplified scheme, i.e. without trial. Therefore, they have one road - to the West. Indeed, in order to organize this one must be Putin.
  14. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 1 March 2014 08: 44
    +3
    I think it is necessary to gather forces in the Crimea who do not support the coup, and speak the language of power, but this is war. At the moment, 80-90 percent of the population do not support the new government but are silent and this is the whole trouble, the people are afraid.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 1 March 2014 08: 59
      0
      Yes, that is right. except deaf murmurs, unfortunately no one can do anything yet.
      We must be able to organize. Seeing desire and courage alone is not enough. The coordinated actions of a group of 300 people armed with clubs can effortlessly do away with a simple crowd of thousands of untrained men and ordinary women.

      We hope that the answer to the Natsik will fly. So far, everyone who can translate what we can into the account of either Sevastopol http://www.sevastopol.su/news.php?id=57865
      either Colonel Cassad http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/1432534.html

      We need money and trained people from us.
      Below is the link of the Kharkov resistance. There is a forum

      http://www.objectiv.tv/280214/93800.html
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 1 March 2014 09: 42
      +2
      Quote: platitsyn70
      I think it’s necessary to gather strength in Crimea who does not support the coup, and speak the language of power,

      And this is already being done. Moreover, Russia has the opportunity to claim its right to Crimea. Documented, the transfer of Crimea to Ukraine is not framed, since at that time there was no decision of the Supreme Council on this issue. If the Russian leadership shows firmness, then I think Crimea will go, again, under the jurisdiction of Russia. And according to the latest news reports, everything goes to that.
  15. Tatarus
    Tatarus 1 March 2014 08: 45
    +2
    Russia's Permanent Representative to the UN Vitaly Churkin, answering a question about the presence of Russian troops in Crimea, stressed that Russia is acting there within the framework of the agreement signed with Ukraine on the basing of the Black Sea Fleet. "We have an agreement with Ukraine on the presence of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol, and we are acting within the framework of these agreements," the diplomat recalled.


    Such a diplomatic response
    1. v53993
      v53993 1 March 2014 09: 12
      +1
      Such a diplomatic response

      Yes, it’s hard for Churkin at the UN. They even forgot how to read there, after we sent the troops out of there, we have to voice it. Again, you have to educate Europe.
  16. Magadan
    Magadan 1 March 2014 08: 54
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    URGENTLY!
    "POLOT" HAS BEEN CAPTURED BY BANDER'S. They cannot be resisted in Kharkov. The people are not organized, unlike the scumbags. This is how the current "government" deals with the disobedient. In the course of tomorrow's rally against the Yanderites, they will simply screw up. This is the response of the Nazi junta to Crimea. Along the way, Kernes turned out to be a traitor. He was aware of everything. And they thought of him as a decent person
    http://www.trueinform.ru/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=25206
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 1 March 2014 09: 14
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      Quote: Magadan
      . Along the way, Kernes turned out to be a traitor. He was aware of everything. And they thought of him as a decent person
      Yes, it even merged when the Russian flag, when trying to hoist it on the admin. By the anti-Maidan representatives, tore it off. The coward and traitor didn’t give him any more xNUMX, the guard helped.
  17. v53993
    v53993 1 March 2014 08: 55
    +1
    England, as the main organizer and inspirer of the Maidan, simply obliged to shame to plunge below sea level. But since she has no shame, due to a lack of conscience, she needs help.
  18. saag
    saag 1 March 2014 08: 59
    +1
    from Kharkov to Belgorod it is at hand, these Makhnovists may be tempted to try something to do
  19. VADEL
    VADEL 1 March 2014 09: 02
    +1
    Quote: name
    The population of the south-east of Ukraine is unorganized, that's the ONLY PROBLEM. The Head is Needed!

    So Tsarev would lead the movement. I would create my own party "TSAR" (for example) and forward. Abroad (from the east) will help him.
  20. saag
    saag 1 March 2014 09: 08
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    Quote: VADEL
    Would create my own party "TSAR"

    No, it's too pretentious, if he is not embarrassed by the parallels, he would call his party "Industrial Party" :-)
  21. shelva
    shelva 1 March 2014 09: 15
    0
    It looks like another talker. How does he propose defending himself without resorting to violence in the absence of police and in the presence of armed banderlogs ?, with diplomatic support from behind a hillock?
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 1 March 2014 09: 59
      +1
      At least he did not merge. And his words today are no different from those that he spoke BEFORE coming scum to power. Unlike other PRovtsev .... pah already very disgusting.
  22. AndreyS
    AndreyS 1 March 2014 09: 20
    +1
    A statement by Crimean Prime Minister Aksenov just passed (according to Vesti 24) and said that in connection with the armed attacks on civilians of the Crimea, the inability of the Kiev authorities to restore order, he reassigns all law enforcement agencies, the SBU, as well as military and border units to himself. And he ordered the commanders of the units and the heads of the organs to carry out only his orders. And he turned to the president of Russia with a request ...
  23. tomcat117
    tomcat117 1 March 2014 09: 36
    +2
    Quote: v53993
    Are European countries, the United States ready to allocate tens of billions of dollars in order to keep Ukraine afloat - a big question.

    But is Europe ready for the fact that Ukraine will break into it with a bare booty and an automatic machine for an advantage? Benderlogs will not go east anymore. They will be soaked there according to a simplified scheme, i.e. without trial. Therefore, they have one road - to the West. Indeed, in order to organize this one must be Putin.

    Europe will substitute its ass for Bandera’s naked pope and there will come a complete GAY idyll.
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  26. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 1 March 2014 10: 00
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    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/728/gnks105.jpg
    so begins
  27. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 1 March 2014 10: 02
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    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2014/364/jffc780.jpg
    and so finish
  28. ed65b
    ed65b 1 March 2014 10: 06
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    It is necessary to keep the interim government in Kiev from the use of force against civilians

    On the contrary, it is necessary to actively push and encourage repression against civilians. The more blood the revolutionaries shed, the sadder their fate will be. This approach to the example of the United States used in Ukraine in relation to Yanuk. we also need to approach pragmatically gritting our teeth at the innocently killed to apply it to Bandera. how cynical
  29. bomg.77
    bomg.77 1 March 2014 10: 11
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    Gazprom presses! I won’t be surprised if they cancel the purchase of Ukrainian goods that do not meet sanitary standards
  30. Gagarin
    Gagarin 1 March 2014 10: 40
    +2
    If it’s true about the rout of the Oplot, it’s very bad, one of the few forces in the Donbass that not only spoke in tongues.
    Oleg Tsarev slowly but surely gaining positive points from the people. Calm, logical, consistent, it is a pity that before he was not much promoted.
  31. fregina1
    fregina1 1 March 2014 11: 20
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    You need to meet with the Tsarev, you need to start promoting and financing! He needs a "small victorious war", for example, to mobilize the Donetsk region according to the Crimea version! Immediately the situation needs to be sorted out and the delimitation set according to his program: 1. Crimea gains independence with further entry into Russia, and this is not discussed
    2. The South-East of Ukraine becomes a new State recognized by Russia and, under his leadership, is a member of the Union of Belarus and Russia. This is a minimum program !!! The maximum program is to liberate central Ukraine and also join !! To abandon the West forever - let it be a problem of Poland !!! 3-6 areas to hell with them !!!! These will be the problems of future generations. And for 20 years they will polish Galicia !! and Poland will become enemy No. 1 for them
  32. saag
    saag 1 March 2014 11: 27
    +1
    Quote: fregina1
    Crimea gains independence with further accession to Russia, and this is not discussed

    I think some disappointment awaits you, Crimea may receive enhanced autonomy. but there will be no accession, I suppose, there will be such a compromise between the West and Russia
  33. fregina1
    fregina1 1 March 2014 11: 32
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    I think the compromise at the first stage is independence, like neither you nor us !!! autonomy will not roll already, they have gone too far !!! Well, the old way, so that there is nothing to separate, Ukraine needs to be finished with decay, and that's all who is to blame, or rather it will fall apart, at least not to interfere! Don’t give money, promote alternative power in the East, in the South and in the West to help them overwhelm. The worse, the better!
  34. fregina1
    fregina1 1 March 2014 11: 33
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    If they had planned autonomy, they would not have taken control of troops, border guards and the Navy with the SBU
  35. Gagarin
    Gagarin 1 March 2014 11: 44
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    I also really liked this video, definitely Oleg MUZHIK WITH I ... MI!
    Although part of his confidence relied on people on the roofs falling into the frame in the upper right corner.
    I was struck by his ability, even under shouts and accusations, to think sensibly and give reasoned answers, "hitting" smoothly turned into a dialogue, just handsome!
    Quote: SibRUS
    After this video I generally respect him.
  36. saag
    saag 1 March 2014 11: 52
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    It is beneficial for Russia that Crimea be autonomous within Ukraine as well, firstly there are no complaints and sanctions in this case, and secondly, where should Russia take 3 cubic kilometers of water to supply the peninsula in case of independence of the Crimea or even its hypothetical entry into the Russian Federation? There are no agreements on transboundary rivers or regulation of runoff, and Ukraine may well drastically limit runoff, motivating domestic agricultural problems
  37. Des10
    Des10 1 March 2014 12: 00
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    "... First of all, diplomatic. Everything must be done so that militants armed in the literal sense of the word, as well as armed with anti-Soviet and anti-Russian ideology, are not involved against some people in southeastern Ukraine. We must protect people."

    That would be such a confident, worthy and Man - the President of Ukraine ...
  38. saag
    saag 1 March 2014 12: 09
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    Tsarev has no one behind him, in my opinion the SBU of Ukraine has more chances, they have a structure throughout the country and they can, if necessary, affect the situation
  39. Gagarin
    Gagarin 1 March 2014 12: 18
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    I think Western intelligence was preparing for this alignment of forces in the first place.
    SBU is led by specific people, with surnames, families and property. By exerting pressure on the leadership, you can fetter the entire service. It is enough to recall the behavior and role of the SBU in the days of the Maidan revolution.
    Quote: saag
    In my opinion, the SBU has more chances
  40. nomad74
    nomad74 1 March 2014 12: 29
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    From the Berkutovites to form a power wing for Tsarev! And to the east of Ukraine try to format the self-determination of the East! And at the moment he is gaining recognition and recognition as a leader in eastern Ukraine! Until now, he was not too media! This is what we are helping him now! Tsarev forward! Russia will help!
  41. GOGY
    GOGY 1 March 2014 12: 40
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    He’s a nice man and his surname is sonorous, but I’m afraid that if he is the president of Ukraine, I won’t be able to chop off the Crimea - although there are other options than the fraternal Ukraine included in the Customs Union, with the possibility of further integration with Russia and Belarus into something like a confederation, and there, with the status of Crimea, you can decide - peacefully and honestly, again only if ..., I fantasize, in a word