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Crimean Tatars are asked to help in the battle with Bandera

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Crimean Tatars are asked to help in the battle with BanderaCrimea desperately fights with the "Bandera evil." “Word for Russia. If the Russian Federation does not want to finally and completely lose fraternal Ukraine as a friendly country, if it wants to get the NATO border near Smolensk, let it sit and watch how Crimeans try to sweep away this Bandera evil that is fully funded and armed with cold pragmatists from Washington and Brussels . But our resources are not enough, ”a well-known Crimean public figure, politician Vasvi Abduraimov told IslamNews.


- Vasvi Enanovich, how do you assess the results of yesterday’s confrontation with the Crimean parliament? There is a lot of information that the Russians and Tatars are divided, the first - for the breakaway of the Crimea from Ukraine, the second - for Euromaidan, with all the consequences ... Is this true? Who actually support the Crimean Tatars?

- Due to the fact that it was planned to hold an extraordinary session of the Verkhovna Rada of autonomy, which was to decide the main question about the attitude towards those who seized power in Kiev today, two gatherings were held. On the one hand, it was carried out by activists of the Mejlis, they are outspoken supporters of Euro-Atlantic integration, Euromaidan and the new Kiev “government”, who, for their faithful service, expect to receive their share of posts at all levels. They were actively opposed by the Russian-cultural part of the population, not only the Russians, but also the Crimean Tatars, who announced a new course for building the Crimea together, living in the Crimea, and defending the Crimea. They came to support all the proposed decisions and morally support the Crimean Parliament. Passions ran high, there were clashes, but it did not come down to serious bloodshed. And in the midst of this conflict on the square, it was reported that the meeting could not be opened due to the lack of a quorum. Of the 100 deputies registered 49. The quorum did not happen, the session did not hold. And it was pompously announced as a great achievement of those people who came to prevent separatism and so on.

To make it clear who represented the militants of the Mejlis: the active part of this organization representing Simferopol and Simferopol region is about 3-5 thousand people, but more than half of them are adherents and activists of Hizb ut-Tahrir. Our representatives also suffered in these small clashes. It turns out that against the unification of the Russian people with the Crimean Tatars, with other ethnic communities, for the benefit of the future Crimea, the Mejlis activists, open guides of the Euro-Atlantic course among the Crimean Tatars, and adherents of Hizb ut-Tahrir, who are also fierce, support integration in the Eurasian direction. confronting all Russian and Russian. In what way they closed up.

- Hizb ut-Tahrir recently behave more actively in the Crimea than before?

- They, starting from last year, switched to active actions and began to hold rather large organized meetings - in support of the Syrian rebels, to send a new batch of suicide bombers there. There were other events. The last time in the fall was an attempt to hold a big rally on Lenin Square, in the presence of their foreign curators from England, from other parts of the world. But at that time, the authorities had enough sense (including, under the pressure of the Crimean Tatar public) to prevent them from holding such actions. But now, when there is anarchy in Ukraine, they are united in the struggle against everything that concerns our desire to be together with the fraternal peoples of Russia, Eurasia, and so on.

- That is, speaking of the fact that all the Crimean Tatars are for Euromaidan, the media are far from objectivity?

- This is my subjective assessment, but the picture is folded next (and this picture is deliberately pumped so that later there is an opportunity to play a bloody interethnic and interfaith conflict): all the media draw that absolutely all Crimean Tatars are for Europe, for Euromaidan, and the rest of Crimea against, for Russia. But this is an absolutely erroneous opinion. According to my estimates, 97% of Crimeans against Euromaidan and that lawlessness, that Makhnovshchina and Bandera, which is now overwhelming the whole of Ukraine. “For” - 2-3% of absolutely non-ideal, paid by all sorts of foreign funds, working out their penny figures of NGOs.

- So how many Tatars in Crimea really support those and those?

- The Majlis, which, according to the 2012 election data of the year, was supported by 18% of the Crimean Tatar population, stands for Euromaidan.

- That is, every fifth?

- Yes, such is the real figure. The Mejlis is quite an influential organization, their 23 of the year was fostered here. But if at the beginning of 1990-x this support was 90%, today - 18%. These 18-20% Crimean Tatars may support Euromaidan, 60-70% are apolitical and deal exclusively with the survival and maintenance of their families, because from different starting conditions they began to live in the Crimea, unlike everyone else, and somewhere 10-15% is active against Euromaidan.

- Are Crimeans waiting for more active Russian intervention in the current conflict?

- From 80 to 95% - for Russia, for the return of the Crimea to the Russian Federation. This is open data of various kinds of surveys conducted on the peninsula. I would not want to give advice to the President, the government and deputies of the Russian Federation, it would be incorrect, but there is every reason to return the Crimea to 1945 status of the year, when the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic was illegally eliminated, and from that to dance further. This is one of the ways. There are other arguments, including the legally insignificant act of transferring Crimea from the Russian Federation to the Ukrainian SSR from 1954. Here we just need political will. And strategists who are able to flawlessly develop both legal and other aspects can offer a lot of practical solutions to the issue.

- Opponents of this point of view appeal to the fact that Russia, being limited by international legal norms, cannot engage in self-government on the territory of an independent state, which Ukraine is still today!

- True? Do you know what explains longevity and such a tough manifestation of the political will of the Maidan? Do you know what? Weekly (and this is an absolutely proven and reliable fact), through the US embassy, ​​there was funding for this operation from 20 to 30 million dollars, weekly, do you understand? Then this will manifests itself, among other things. There would be an opportunity to hold a referendum - and this is the most democratic manifestation of the political will of the population - 70% of the population of all Ukraine would have long advocated the closest integration with the Russian Federation. But nobody will hold such a referendum, do you understand?

- This is the question of a referendum, at least at the Crimean level, to be put on Wednesday ... So what?

- Yes, but the fact is that the deputy corps that has been forming all these years, the ruling elites of the regions, corrupted by a system of total corruption that has corrupted the entire Ukrainian power body, they did not allow the current composition of the Verkhovna Rada of Crimea to accept historical solutions and return the peninsula to its natural state. And this is also a big trouble. And therefore, we, the Crimean population, have only one chance - to repeat the experience of the Maidan in Crimea, which was successful. But if you go this way, in Crimea it can overlap not only with the political confrontation: an interethnic, interfaith card will also be skillfully played. And you know that conflicts on this basis are practically insoluble. And this is forever. This is a collapse with unpredictable consequences.

- And what do you do?

- If no serious measures are taken not only from the Crimea within two or three days, the forecast is pessimistic. The internal resources of the Crimea to show this will alone is not enough. If there is appropriate support, solutions, then, of course, all this will be supported and decided from below! Word for Russia. And how you wanted! If the Russian Federation does not want to finally and completely lose fraternal Ukraine as a friendly country, if it wants to get the NATO border near Smolensk, let it sit and watch how Crimeans without your support try to sweep away this Bandera evil, which is fully funded and armed with cold pragmatists from Washington and Brussels. So tell me - we are giving Ukraine at the mercy of Uncle Sam. And there will be a humanitarian catastrophe. Millions of 10-15 Russian-cultural people will be pulled to the Russian Federation, and they will come there with a great sense of resentment towards the country that threw them in a difficult moment. Can you imagine what a great potential it will be for all kinds of opposition forces like Navalny? And you will get the same Euromaidan and the same Ukraine throughout the whole of Russia. And the fact that there are thin places that can easily tear, fact. If such a prospect suits the leaders of the Russian Federation - let them do nothing. Let Ukraine then die with us.

I repeat, we just need political will to return the status of Crimea to 1945, to restore the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic as part of the Russian Federation, to appoint an interim head of the new Crimean Republic, with a timeline for developing a new constitution, etc. and everything went, despite all the howl that will occur in the West. Headache based on the Black Sea will be resolved fleet, forever and ever. And then, following the example of Crimea, all of eastern Ukraine will finally rise and begin to restore a normal system of power throughout the country.

- If America so generously spent on the Maidan, why she does not give money to Ukraine now?

- Why does America need a strong Ukraine? She needs chaos in Ukraine, completely subordinated Ukraine, completely controlled both politically and financially. If we lose Ukraine now, in half a year it will become a member of NATO and the EU. And as soon as this happens, Moldova, Georgia, Azerbaijan will be immediately absorbed ...

Your sovereign can do anything. It's time to act. And where it was necessary to show the will, it was manifested - South Ossetia, Abkhazia ...

- But Russia cannot accept them ...

- Because they have never been part of Russia. And the Crimea was!
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  1. saag
    saag 1 March 2014 09: 10
    -6
    what old article, about two days ago was and where is such a battle there?
    1. older
      older 1 March 2014 09: 16
      +13
      The battle is going on now ... Only the battle so far is the most terrible, internal ... it is not particularly visible, like a boil ... But it can break through ...
      Tatars need to understand that Crimea, the one in which the Tatars will not be aliens, but an indigenous people, is possible only in alliance with pro-Russian forces ...
      1. Very old
        Very old 1 March 2014 09: 42
        0
        "Brother Mitka is dying. He asks for ears"

        And then everywhere ...
        1. older
          older 1 March 2014 09: 59
          +3
          Quote: Very old
          "Brother Mitka is dying. He asks for ears"

          And then everywhere ...

          I served for a long time, but I remember ... This same Ukrainian horseradish will die just like that ... Somehow I had to give two shops ... And we crawled out of the kyariz together ...
          So now ... I'll give a couple of shops, and if necessary, more ... Crawl out again ... they are tenacious ... like Russians ...
      2. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 1 March 2014 10: 59
        +5
        ... you just need the political will to return the status of Crimea to 1945, to restore the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic as part of the Russian Federation, to appoint an interim head of the new Crimean Republic, with a timeline for developing a new constitution, etc. and everything went, despite all the howl that will occur in the West.


        !!!!!!!!!!!!! Crimea should be part of Russia !!!!!!!!!!!
        This is a historical inevitability that needs to be realized in the course of these events.
        Correct the political crime of the former leaders of Russia, pursuing an anti-Russian, anti-Russian policy.
      3. Skiff-2
        Skiff-2 1 March 2014 12: 32
        +4
        At that rally, most of the Tatars stood with the Russians, against Bandera. And now there is not a single Tatar flag in all of Simferopol, only Russians. Everyone is happy .
      4. smersh70
        smersh70 1 March 2014 22: 14
        0
        Quote: older
        Tatars need to understand that Crimea, the one in which the Tatars will not be aliens, but an indigenous people, is possible only in alliance with pro-Russian forces ...
        Having read what they write here about the Tatars, I strongly doubt it ... wink
        1. Ptah
          Ptah 2 March 2014 00: 09
          +1
          Quote: smersh70
          what they write here about the Tatars, I strongly doubt it ...

          Greetings, Vurgun! hi
          About Tatars... Minor correction ... repeat
          Here they write similar things about Azerbaijanis, and there is a reason for this. Separation and disregard for established customs in the territory on which LIVE they arrived.
          In September, in the area in which I live, locals bitten with Azerbaijanis because a vegetable stall was opened next to the playground that always existed there.
          Traders reared up ...
          They were explained, by the forces of bandiugan, something there - a garbage can, with rotting apricots and watermelons that grew behind the pavilion was removed.
          Yesterday I walked by - a bunch has grown noticeably, but so far the frosts - it doesn’t stink.
          If it thaws, an "interethnic" conflict will appear.

          Also with the Tatars. While they are there, but they seem to be inaudible, and there is no topic for conversation.
          They start to disperse the wave - that’s dislike ...
          Assimilation of visitors, as in the USSR - or each in his hole. Only one way out. drinks
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    3. mirag2
      mirag2 1 March 2014 10: 05
      +4
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      1. mirag2
        mirag2 1 March 2014 14: 17
        0
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    4. Ari100kraT
      Ari100kraT 1 March 2014 10: 46
      +3
      Quote: saag
      what old article, about two days ago was and where is such a battle there?

      The situation there has now changed after Kadyrov "snorted" on them and from Kazan said that "they are wrong." Of course, they have no faith, but they are afraid of strength, they will scoff at the weak and sell at any moment, but if the enemy is equal or stronger, they merge right there. Example: deportation during the time of Joseph Vissarionovich no resistance ... In Chechnya it was more difficult
      1. pavlo
        pavlo 1 March 2014 11: 09
        +1
        No harder, no need la-la-everything was clearly-leash one shot from a gun !!!
  2. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 1 March 2014 09: 11
    +7
    Together - we are force ! It's time to end this evil spirits once and for all. Go Russia! The truth is with us!
    1. older
      older 1 March 2014 09: 22
      +11
      Who is evil? ... I’ve returned from the taiga, I don’t understand many things. Do we have meetings now being organized?
      Finish, start, kill, seek ... Looked around and realized, you just need to respond to the blow ... Hit in Kiev. Local chewed snot. And most are cowards ... I'm talking about the inhabitants of this city ... Resent no offense, but ... once it was a city -hero, glory to Soviet soldiers, glory to Kievites ... and now-a city of cowards.. glory to Ukraine ... Ugh ...
      Real Ukrainians (I absolutely do not understand the division into Russians and Ukrainians in Ukraine0 live only in the east and in the Crimea ... Guys. Boldly proletarian managerial fist in the Bandera faces lol
      I’m with you, I’m for you ... and I’ll come and will come ... We will return Kiev the title of a city-hero!
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 1 March 2014 09: 50
        +1
        Quote: older
        .I returned from the taiga

        How is the hunt?
        1. older
          older 1 March 2014 10: 05
          +7
          Honestly ... shitty ... I don’t get this warming at all ... Capercaillie and black grouse under the crust of snow choking .. moose and deer in the snow get stuck ... Even wolves (though for some reason I just saw it a couple of times) ..drugged or something ...
          It’s just vile to get the game now ... because everyone has returned ... It's a pity the animal ...
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 1 March 2014 10: 51
            +2
            Quote: older
            Capercaillie and black grouse

            I always believed that these birds are different in the same way as eggs (store, chicken).
            And what I learned ...
            Capercaillie is the largest bird of its family, and black grouse is the most common bird of the same family.
            Capercaillie and black grouse have different colors, sizes and shapes of the tails.
            The wood grouse chooses dark forests and swamps for life, the black grouse prefers half-open areas - the border of the forest with a meadow, field and river bank.
            The black grouse has a more pronounced phenomenon of sexual dimorphism than the capercaillie.
            Capercaillie is a sedentary bird, black grouse can be both sedentary and nomadic, depending on the habitat.
            Grouse flies better and at a greater distance than the wood grouse.
            The female black grouse lays a smaller number of eggs and hatches them less time.
            what request No.

            In terms of gastronomy, neither one nor the other is interesting to me. I have enough hypertrophied broiler rolls ... hi
  3. delfinN
    delfinN 1 March 2014 09: 13
    +13
    After Kadyrov carried out political information, his consciousness changed 180 degrees.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 1 March 2014 09: 23
      +5
      The hint is understood correctly.
    2. Magadan
      Magadan 1 March 2014 09: 41
      +6
      Kadyrov is a young man. I always felt that at the right moment he would perform properly!

      So here, guys, and here you are, I remember the whole forum scolded me when I wrote about the Caucasus and Caucasians in superlatives :)
      1. vezunchik
        vezunchik 1 March 2014 10: 28
        +4
        East is a delicate matter. you cannot take it by force of arms, but there is a force that the east cannot resist ..... it is the power of money ....
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      3. Ptah
        Ptah 1 March 2014 11: 02
        0
        Quote: Magadan
        Kadyrov is a young man.

        Kadyr Khan is the "King of Beasts" of the local (Caucasian-Eastern) "spill". While he is full, satisfied, he rules the pride, the pride will breed and expand its habitat.
        The supply of fallow deer and antelopes from Moscow continues, so why should he be against the line supported by the "galley chief" ...
        We try to change the “king's” lifestyle - then we see what he says ...
        The Volga-Tatarstan Mini-Khan even almost "renounced" his Crimean relatives.
        Political scientists are confident that Tatarstan acts at the urgent request of Moscow, since relations between Russian Tatars and Crimean have never been close.
        1. real
          real 1 March 2014 14: 07
          +3
          Volga Tatars are Bulgars ...
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 1 March 2014 17: 04
            +1
            Not everyone thinks so. Many people in our area are pleased to believe that they are "descendants" of those nomadic peoples who came as part of the hordes from the east. They rode on horses, and then they ate those horses and washed them down with kumis. Than the descendants of those who settled on these lands long before the tartar-braziers, led a sedentary lifestyle and had developed agriculture, pottery and blacksmithing, special architecture and much more - progressive (at that time).
            Well, they were "conquered" by newcomers. This is what causes itching in the perineum ...
  4. Berimor 2
    Berimor 2 1 March 2014 09: 14
    -4
    Respected! Would you go with such agitation to Mejelis. Russia itself will figure out how to protect its citizens. And in this respecting the foundations of the law that you urge to violate. Similar provocateurs in wartime put to the wall.
    1. older
      older 1 March 2014 09: 26
      +3
      Quote: Berimor 2
      Russia itself will figure out how to protect its citizens.

      In order to shoot a wolf, or a rasomakh, you sometimes have to lure them into a lamb or bright ... They are not fools, neither do we ... only the lamb doesn’t get so high ...
      We will decide how and what ... only in this case. Maybe the lamb should be saved ...
    2. valokordin
      valokordin 1 March 2014 12: 51
      0
      Quote: Berimor 2
      Respected! Would you go with such agitation to Mejelis. Russia itself will figure out how to protect its citizens. And in this respecting the foundations of the law that you urge to violate. Similar provocateurs in wartime put to the wall.

      Someone strongly minus you, strange, let me remove all the minuses from your comment, you're right.
  5. SVOBODA
    SVOBODA 1 March 2014 09: 25
    +7
    In my opinion, there is no need to "pull" Crimea to us, to Russia. We need to help people create economically and politically sustainable autonomy. And then those dissatisfied with Russia will understand that we are not
    came to the territory, and help the Russian-speaking population. I believe that assistance should be provided exclusively by peaceful means, through negotiations (not by persuasion, please note).
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 1 March 2014 09: 37
      +4
      I support. ALL Kievan Rus should be liberated from the Bandera euronacists!
      The place of Bandera is at the bucket ... that is, in the galicia of its zapadenskoy.
      1. morpex
        morpex 1 March 2014 10: 24
        -9
        Quote: Magadan
        I support. ALL Kievan Rus should be liberated from the Bandera euronacists!
        The place of Bandera is at the bucket ... that is, in the galicia of its zapadenskoy.

        As for Bandera, it was agreed. But have you seen at least one in Crimea?
        But the invasion or annexation is already in full swing. I am from the East of Ukraine. I am for the Union with Russia. But !!! The union is based on VOLUNTARY ones. And if they start to force me, bend me by force - excuse me. I don't need such an alliance. And over the past three days, Russia, with its actions in Crimea, has "achieved" what Bandera's media in the East could not achieve. in Africa, the occupier. And no good intentions can justify this. According to all international rights, Russia will be declared an aggressor country.
        I didn’t think that I would survive until the brothers went to the brothers. In the course of my life, sincerely respected Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is no better than Yanek. If blood is shed in Crimea. Great blood will not lie on the conscience of the mythical Bandera people who allegedly infringed on the rights of Crimeans, and on the conscience of my sincerely respected Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. Russians! It’s not too late to stop! Crimea is not worth those victims and those consequences, the terrible consequences that could be ...
        1. nikcris
          nikcris 1 March 2014 10: 50
          -4
          These are usually sent to the south. We are Russian and do what we want without turning around.
          1. Ptah
            Ptah 1 March 2014 11: 24
            +2
            Quote: nikcris
            We are Russian and do what we want without turning around.

            That's for sure, spit .... "without turning around", "without thinking ahead", "without learning history" ...
            This year "jubilee" is the beginning of the end of the RUSSIAN Empire.
            And in a hundred years the final "end" may take place. The whole world is just waiting for this - when again to cling to each other's throats in RUSSIA.
        2. Altona
          Altona 1 March 2014 11: 33
          +4
          Quote: morpex
          I don't need such an alliance. And over the past three days, Russia, by its actions in Crimea, has "achieved" what Bandera's media in the East could not achieve. He is an occupier in Africa too.

          -----------------------------
          I don’t understand, and how did Russia show itself militarily in Crimea? Have you captured something? Who did you hurt? "On a voluntary basis," the Ukrainian authorities agree to suck loot from Russia, and as long as possible, and turn their ass to Europe for fucking ... And of course UkrFOR is sweeter to you, he will not be an occupier, he will throw cookies at you because of "Egoza "(barbed wire) ... This Bandera media still tell you everything, it's impossible to listen, after 5 minutes I turn it off ...
          And how are we in union? From Ukrainian I see only Roshen candies, which I don’t buy ... Under the Soviet Union, yes, Ukrainian goods were rich ... But now I don’t see ... I haven’t been to Ukraine since 1992, and I don’t touch in any way .. And forget this useless song about "the fat we have consumed" and "the oppression of Moscow", you are tired, by God ...
          1. rolik2
            rolik2 1 March 2014 13: 08
            -6
            Quote: Altona
            I didn’t understand, and how did Russia show itself militarily in Crimea? Something captured? Someone infringed?

            Don’t make yourself a virgin, we all see how Russian troops violating the arrangements for deploying troops in the Crimea seize various objects (when trying to get into the military unit the Russian marine with arms was captured) or do you think that the southeast is waiting for you with open arms? So you are simply nae .. if they want to have a GOOD NEIGHBOR RUSSIA, and not an occupier, and most Ukrainians now perceive you as occupants. Whatever your media tells you and the former orange Nevsky, your tanks will not be greeted with bread and salt neither in Odessa, nor in Donetsk, nor in Kharkov.
            1. Evgen_Vasilich
              Evgen_Vasilich 1 March 2014 13: 38
              +3
              Well, you can see something from the storage ... but about the "virgin" - yourself, like in geyrope? not anymore??? repeat
            2. Altona
              Altona 1 March 2014 13: 49
              0
              Quote: rolik2
              Don’t make yourself a virgin, we all see how Russian troops violating the arrangements for deploying troops in the Crimea seize various objects (when trying to get into the military unit the Russian marine with arms was captured) or do you think that the southeast is waiting for you with open arms? So you are simply nae .. if they want to have a GOOD NEIGHBOR RUSSIA, and not an occupier, and most Ukrainians now perceive you as occupants. Whatever your media tells you and the former orange Nevsky, your tanks will not be greeted with bread and salt neither in Odessa, nor in Donetsk, nor in Kharkov.

              ___________________________
              Come on? Are your virgin ones so sure of that? What good is your politician? They have not complied with a single point of the agreements of 21.02.2014 ... And how to understand a GOOD NEIGHBOR? Is France a good neighbor? What did France give Ukraine besides Napoleon’s invasion? Of course, with Bandera, there’s just a sea of ​​democracy ... Do you know that minibuses Belgorod-Kharkov are not popular? And on the reverse, there is a full house ... And everyone wants to sit out in Russia for some reason ... Explain to me why?
              1. rolik2
                rolik2 1 March 2014 18: 39
                0
                Quote: Altona
                Is France a good neighbor?

                I am an uncle from UKRAINE, and I live in the south of the country, I have no relation to zapadentsev, my grandfather fought.
              2. morpex
                morpex 1 March 2014 19: 19
                +2
                Quote: Altona
                Come on

                The United States wrote the truth to you. I live in 100 km from Kharkov. And I know the mood in Kharkov and the region better than you. Having invaded the territory of another state, you automatically become occupiers. With all the ensuing.
            3. Lelek
              Lelek 1 March 2014 13: 53
              +2
              The voice of a zapadentz erupted. I even forgot how to write in Russian, but everything teaches, flaunts. Teach your spiders. angry
            4. avg
              avg 1 March 2014 14: 37
              -2
              Quote: rolik2
              Don’t make yourself a virgin, we all see how Russian troops violating the agreement on the deployment of troops in the Crimea capture various objects, (when trying to get into the military unit, a Russian marine with weapons was captured)

              Do not lie and do not make yourself an all-knowing bander woman with a broken-down "wet nurse". Also me, a connoisseur of fucking. Better go, look for a Russian specialty in your garden, or is it scary to get out from under the bed?
            5. SkiF_RnD
              SkiF_RnD 2 March 2014 08: 53
              0
              Russian troops breaking the agreement

              The US and the EU acted outside the legal framework. This is a coup d'état. In conditions of anarchy, the head of the ARC turned to Russia for help. To admit that we have violated the sovereignty of Kiev, we must first recognize the legitimacy of BP and Yatsenyukh. Maybe you are there in the Storage and recognize the Banderaites as the government, but we are not. The decision to send troops to Crimea was dictated by the safety of the population. And they protect exclusively local residents, mainly from gangs of marauders from the "wonderful" capital these days. Whom did they capture? There everyone takes pictures with them and hugs. And the Crimeans themselves will decide their fate, no one will annex them by force, so there is no need to la-la. And the reason is not illusory. We all perfectly see what is going on there. What I saw on the Internet was enough, why talk about real witnesses. Look at people, from what they "love" Maydauns so much, explain it
          2. morpex
            morpex 1 March 2014 19: 10
            +2
            Quote: Altona
            Something captured?

            Russian warships are approaching the Ukrainian border guards boats launched at sea.
            Putin declared war on Ukraine: the Federation Council will approve the entry of Russian troops.
            Locals have become a human shield between the Ukrainian border guards and the Russian military. This is Balaclava. 14: 04. 300 commandos storm the squad of the marine guard of the State Border Service in Balaklava
            Russia refused consultations with Ukraine within the framework of the Budapest memorandum, - the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. I am not like this! I'm on the tram! Or is it all the machinations of Bandera?
            Zhenya. Maybe you will let us decide our own fate in the end? Although it’s already too late. Putin will not turn on the back. But he will become the person who will bring it, or already brought the war to my house. How do you think about this? I’m not a Bandera. And just like you sincerely hate these .... kov. But Putin is on a par with them. With good intentions the road to hell is paved.
        3. mamba
          mamba 1 March 2014 11: 43
          +4
          Quote: morpex
          the invasion or annexation is already in full swing.

          The frightened crow of a bush is afraid. Give facts, give links.
          Quote: morpex
          I am for the Union with Russia. But !!! The Union will be founded on the VOLUNTARY. And if they begin to force me, to bend by force - I'm sorry.

          Specify specifically what or in what Russia showed coercion specifically to you?
          Quote: morpex
          I do not need such a union.

          It was necessary to begin with this. I knew that there would be people willing to spit in our backs instead of gratitude. But to start doing this even in advance, it's too much!
          Quote: morpex
          And over the past three days, by its actions in Crimea, Russia has "achieved" what Bandera's media in the East could not achieve.

          Do you understand what you said?
          Quote: morpex
          After all, he is an occupier in Africa too. And you will not be justified in any good intentions. For all international rights, Russia will declare the country an aggressor.

          So, are Russian tanks already ironing the land of Perekop? No need to panic for no reason.
          Quote: morpex
          I did not think that I would survive until the brothers went to the brothers.

          And what is happening in Kiev, in the West and in the center of Ukraine, isn’t that the same thing? Why doesn't it bother you? Your homeland is on the verge of a civil war, your brother goes to his brother, and you scare everyone with the Russian threat.
          Quote: morpex
          In the course of Pu, nothing is better than Janek.

          Swamps believe that he is much worse than Janek.
          Quote: morpex
          If blood is shed in Crimea. Big blood, then it will lie not on the conscience of the mythical Bandera allegedly infringing on the rights of Crimeans, but on Pu's conscience.

          Western patrons of the fascist coup in Kiev will undoubtedly provoke a bloody conflict, and their media will spread hysteria around the world about the "Evil Empire" aggression. It was in 2008. Remember? But you yourself are able to separate the wheat from the chaff?
          Quote: morpex
          Russians! It’s not too late to stop!

          Yes, they didn’t seem to start ...
          Quote: morpex
          Crimea is not worth those victims and those consequences, terrible consequences that could be ...

          But send this thesis to Kiev.
          1. morpex
            morpex 1 March 2014 19: 26
            +1
            Quote: mamba
            The frightened crow of a bush is afraid. Give facts, give links.
            Quote: morpex

            That's it. Take off your pink glasses. So far, the Federation Council has given the green light to send troops to Ukraine. I congratulate you on the citizens of Russia. War? Yes. Can you imagine the consequences?
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 1 March 2014 22: 21
              +2
              Quote: morpex
              All take off the pink glasses

              it seems that the TV does not work, or it came down from the moon wassat
            2. smersh70
              smersh70 1 March 2014 23: 02
              +1
              Quote: morpex
              The Federation Council has just given the green light to send troops to Ukraine. Congratulations to the citizens of Russia. War?
              I already imagine how all Wahhabis of all stripes are rubbing their hands. For them, the Ukrainian authorities will open a green light. Right now, most likely, they are working on ways to come to Ukraine, buy tickets. They will start mowing everything under the local Tatars. and they’ll start shooting. Then I’ll look at those patriots who shout for help to Crimea ..
              By the way, the 2 world war began when Hitler announced the support of the Germans in the Sudetenland (Anschluss), so Karabakh began when the Armenians started talking about Miatsum.
              1. morpex
                morpex 2 March 2014 00: 06
                +1
                Quote: smersh70
                By the way, the 2 world war began when Hitler announced the support of the Germans in the Sudetenland (Anschluss), so Karabakh began when the Armenians started talking about Miatsum.


                The analogy of 100%! The only difference is that I do not consider the Russian people an enemy. But Putin and his manual Duma, yes! For he made ordinary Russian guys come to my house with weapons.
              2. morpex
                morpex 2 March 2014 00: 14
                +1
                Quote: morpex
                I already imagine how all Wahhabis of all stripes are rubbing their hands. For them, the Ukrainian authorities will open a green light. Right now, most likely, they are working on ways to come to Ukraine, buy tickets. They will start mowing everything under the local Tatars. and they’ll start shooting. Then I’ll look at those patriots who shout for help to Crimea ..

                I’m talking about this too. Urry patriots will shut up later. But how will Putin explain those two hundredths who will be sure, how will he explain to his mothers all this? Did any of the patriot urry carry the 200 cargo home? I’m sure not!
                1. Ptah
                  Ptah 2 March 2014 01: 17
                  0
                  Valera.
                  Are you really a Marine, what do you hear from your "nickname"?
                  Then the "Tea" fleet from "Ice" ...
              3. Ptah
                Ptah 2 March 2014 00: 44
                0
                Quote: smersh70
                begin to mow everything under the local Tatars.

                Unproductive. The population is about 12% percent, of which only 1/5 of them are buragose. The Tatars from the Volga region and Kadar Khan himself have already kicked off (officially).
                They will start shooting - and it will be worse for them. There are COSSACKS, not "brooding Karelians or Pomors".
                With this development of the situation, the sky will be closed (guess by whose forces) ... "Green flies", preferring cow cakes instead of sweet honey, gathered near the RUSSIAN borders, are subject to destruction, which will only contribute to reducing their sis in Syria.
                Crimean Tatarva can be excluded from the list of those who want to lick Amer * opu.
                Quote: smersh70
                Then I will look at those patriots who shout for help to Crimea ..

                She already goes, regardless of someone's desire or unwillingness. On different channels.
                Official Russia is silent - so as not to give rise to interpretations, provocations and speculation.
                The request for help was - it is not rejected!
                Quote: smersh70
                World War 2 began, when Hitler announced the support of the Germans in the Sudetenland (Anschluss)

                Occasion. No more to terminate many agreements. The war began in the 33rd. And they announced it to Germany ...
                Quote: smersh70
                Karabakh began when the Armenians started talking about Miatsum.

                Was there an Armenian-Azerbaijani war? Who defeated whom? How many countries participated? Who paid the reparations? Who joined the territory?
                Well, etc.
                "Ein, tsvey, dray ... On the beloved, on the corn ..." (C)
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 2 March 2014 00: 51
                  0
                  Quote: Ptah
                  The Tatars from the Volga region and Kadar Khan himself have already kicked off (officially).
                  they are the same friends and relatives as I am with you wassat . Nobody really recognizes Kazan Tatars in the Turkic world for a long time, because they merged very much with other nations (I mean the elite)

                  Quote: Ptah
                  Was there an Armenian-Azerbaijani war? TO
                  she’s selling out now, if you don’t believe me, I invite you, you’ll stand for 10 minutes on the front line, on foot, as in Mimino) (standing))))
                  Quote: Ptah
                  If they start shooting, it's worse for them. There are COSSACKS, not "brooding Karelians or Pomors".
                  I saw them the day before yesterday, when Aksenov begged and said such right words bully

                  Quote: Ptah
                  "Green flies" preferring cow cakes instead of sweet honey, gathered near the RUSSIAN borders,
                  I am afraid that Putin gave them such a cart-card as Brezhnev gave in 79. Your attempts remind me of the speech of the political officer in our regiment when he spoke about the international debt and the US threat to the USSR))))))
          2. smersh70
            smersh70 1 March 2014 22: 21
            +1
            Quote: mamba
            Targin or annexation is already in full swing.
            The frightened crow of a bush is afraid. Give facts, give links.


            A column of Russian military moves across the territory of the Zaporizhzhya region, writes Tijden.ua, citing its own sources.

            So, the sources of the publication report that a convoy of Russian soldiers passed through the Chongar Peninsula and is moving through the territory of the Zaporizhzhya region.
        4. IRON_MAN
          IRON_MAN 1 March 2014 13: 48
          +2
          Dear Marine, sober-minded people should understand such sentiments, but you also understand that within the confrontation in which you propose this (US rules - hidden participation, financial assistance and verbal support of opposition leaders), Russia will lose. We cannot win an information war (the events of 08.08.08 are considered by the inhabitants in the West to be aggression and occupation, even despite the UN assessment in favor of Russia). Of course, Putin could wait for the appearance in Crimea or for "friendship trains" from Yarosh, wait for the massacre to begin to justify the introduction of troops (as he exchanged the peacekeeping base in Ossetia). But is this what you want? At least until May 25, Ukraine is completely surrendered to anarchy and the "right-wing sector." The latter, in turn, acts rapidly. You do not take into account that well-trained, well-armed (not with bats, but with machine guns and grenade launchers from looted units) attack aircraft, in formations of 300 or more people, will break the resistance in all centers in one night. With the full support of the media and on "legitimate" rights. Then we will have no one to defend and defend. I think Putin's actions are at least adequate to the situation. If the pockets of resistance see REAL force help, they will act more confidently. Please understand. Yours faithfully ! hi
          1. morpex
            morpex 1 March 2014 20: 45
            +3
            Quote: IRON_MAN
            Please comprehend.

            Quote: IRON_MAN
            Please comprehend.

            Dear Iron Man. Everything is right from your belfry. The media has turned you cool. You won’t fault anything written by you. But I don’t believe either your media or ours. Do you really know what War is? If so, you must understand what it is. You must understand what it will turn out to be. I don’t have it right now I’m no longer a young man. But I have children, grandchildren. I am scared for their fate. For millions of destinies of Ukrainians. Peaceful Ukrainians who do not wish anyone harm. Yugoslavia - flowers. God forbid NATO intervenes. And intervenes. Russia withdraws its ambassador from the USA. Does this mean something to you?
            Believe me. It’s better to fight here, on the site than to look at a person through the scope, and even more so to shoot him. I know what I'm talking about ..
            Please comprehend ..... With uv. hi
            1. Ptah
              Ptah 2 March 2014 00: 24
              0
              Quote: morpex
              But I have children, grandchildren. I am scared for their fate. For millions of fates of Ukrainians. Peaceful Ukrainians who do not wish anyone harm.

              Now about this and blame Yanukovych. For the fact that he did not intervene in time, for the fact that he had not taken appropriate action.
              You and I, on the site, of course, know better what to do, but let's stop the panic and trust the people at the level of the min.obor and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of RUSSIA.
              Or a peacekeeping operation by Russian forces, or NATO ...
              CHOOSE !!! You can’t pull the cat by the eggs further - the abscess swells. Moreover, among the media mentioned by YOU (my wife called me from Germany), it is AMERIA that is actively calling to intervene ...
              Staking out the territory is the task of the Russian army, to prevent ethnic divisions into enclaves.
              There is no reason for concern. No one in Russia will give a reason to start purges on a national basis.
              This is not war - THIS IS PREVENTION !!! hi
              1. morpex
                morpex 2 March 2014 00: 38
                +2
                Quote: Ptah
                This is not war - THIS IS PREVENTION !!!

                Excuse me, Vadim. But from this side, I see everything a little differently. Hitler also entered the Sudetenland in the time under the guise of protecting ethnic Germans. However, an analogy. So, this prevention can be very expensive for you and us.
                Putin didn’t have enough restraint. I think so. The revolutionaries would have eaten themselves in a couple of months. If there was no need for this occupation. And let’s tell each other the truth. The Nazis would never have come to Crimea. And now they wouldn’t be. I hate the fact that under beautiful slogans Russia protects crooks and thieves. Google about the new Deputy Prime Minister of Crimea. Bandos from the 90s, nicknamed "Goblin", is generally silent about Yanek ...
                From SW. hi
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 2 March 2014 00: 53
                  0
                  Quote: morpex
                  Putin didn’t have the restraint. I think so. The revolutionaries would have eaten themselves in a couple of months. They would have needed this occupation. And let's tell each other the truth. Natsik would never have come to Crimea. And now they wouldn’t be. that under beautiful slogans Russia protects crooks and thieves
                  Bravo hi good
                2. Ptah
                  Ptah 2 March 2014 01: 11
                  +1
                  Quote: morpex
                  Hitler also once entered the Sudetenland under the guise of protecting ethnic Germans. However, an analogy.

                  Valera, dear! (You can use "you" yes ), but for such an analogy, now in real life they would have scattered a bun, but on the site they drove into the "minus".
                  I can say this - I'm a quarter German and time later - tomorrow our conversation will be replaced by other news ...
                  Do you seriously rule out external invasion?
                  Let not Russia, but someone else ... Really. At the start of the Olympics in the Black Sea, a couple of amersky vessels "got lost". Motivated by those supposedly to protect their athletes. The Olympics are over, there are noticeably fewer athletes, and there are already SIX ships.
                  Why are they there?
                  Quote: morpex
                  So, this prevention can be very expensive for you and us.
                  Empire develops during JOINING TERRITORIES.
                  Do you want to become a part of the SLAVIC empire (in the long run), or fall into Europe as beggars? There are no other places for you. Everything is already taken (he lived there for 15 years, returned to Russia).
                  Quote: morpex
                  In a couple of months, the revolutionaries would eat themselves. They would have needed this occupation.

                  I would give very similar analogies with October 1917. October 23 in the RUSSIAN EMPIRE there was a bourgeois revolution, followed by a subsequent mess with decalitres of blood.
                  In Ukraine, we will assume that "the damned bourgeoisie were overthrown." We are waiting for the Makhnovshchina and by the fall (when there is no time to think about the harvest, milk yield and swimming trunks) we will get a famine.
                  Eugopia will only help if the conditions set forth for it are met. I'm afraid that they will not only not please you very much, but will lead to the next overthrow of power. And so on to infinity, i.e. to devastate the territory. Do you need it? Putin hurried up?
                  Putin completes after Yanyk ...
                  Quote: morpex
                  Google about the new deputy prime minister of Crimea. Bandos from the 90s nicknamed

                  In the revolution, all the foam and slag is blown to the surface.
                  And who is not a thief? A thief beats a thief ...
                  Here you are not an adviser to Russia - there is a chance to joke in their ranks, maybe someone will be found ... drinks
              2. smersh70
                smersh70 2 March 2014 00: 55
                0
                Quote: Ptah
                This is not war - THIS IS PREVENTION OF IT!
                By the way, why don’t you bring troops into the Baltic states, there, too, especially in Lithuania, 54% of Russians, or 2 million Russians in Germany, let’s go wherever the Russian foot comes in. Well, this is not serious. You set up the whole world against yourself. Everyone will start to run away from you now, you can forget about the vehicle in general. GDP builds itself from Stalin, but he is far from it.
                1. Ptah
                  Ptah 2 March 2014 01: 36
                  +1
                  Quote: smersh70
                  Germany - 2 million Russians

                  6 million. Oddly enough, it will sound, but there are more of them even than the Turks, although the latter seem soooooooo *** I ...
                  Quote: smersh70
                  By the way, why don’t bring troops into the Baltic states,

                  1. Time is lost. Sprotlandia entered (and in a cow cake too) in many "alliances" with a "potential enemy".
                  2. They drove Russia then talkers and drunks.
                  3. Territories are not comparable. Now Russia, in your words, is "annexing" a third of Ukraine, even without getting into a sweat. And almost half of the country will be happy about it.
                  4. The Sudetenland. Half of the world was then rattled to Germany. But she did not have nuclear weapons ... We look at the situation near the borders with Israel ...
                  Quote: smersh70
                  You are setting the whole world against yourself. From you, everyone will now start to run away

                  The loss is not great. In the sense of "the whole world". This filthy horror movie has long been promoted. Do you yourself believe that?
                  Quote: smersh70
                  GDP builds itself from Stalin, but he is far from it.

                  I am not his fan in domestic politics (although it’s hard for me to judge - I live too little), but there is something to compare against the background of Europe.
                  In foreign policy - while acting on the envy of the whole world - almost unmistakably.
                  We will see ... what
      2. vezunchik
        vezunchik 1 March 2014 10: 30
        0
        not in Galicia, but from their masters in Germany
      3. vezunchik
        vezunchik 1 March 2014 10: 30
        +2
        not in Galicia, but from their masters in Germany
    2. morpex
      morpex 1 March 2014 10: 08
      0
      Quote: SVOBODA
      In my opinion, there is no need to "pull" Crimea to us, to Russia.

      Unfortunately, your government thinks differently.
      1. Altona
        Altona 1 March 2014 12: 11
        +4
        Quote: morpex
        Unfortunately, your government thinks differently.

        ---------------------------
        Our government does not think for Crimea ... Crimea so far asks for the patronage of Russia and no more ... Crimea-Russian territory, found itself in the embrace of Ukraine by drunken agreements and evil decrees ... If there is a justification for ukro Crimea, provide a detailed treatise with prickly Cossacks, canoe, battles with Muscovites and other quasi-historical nonsense, which ukroistoriki love to trump ...
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 1 March 2014 22: 25
          +1
          Quote: Altona
          Crimea so far asks for the patronage of Russia and no more.
          Why are you responsible for all. This is the territory of a sovereign state. And the actions of Russia are direct occupation. So far they don’t shoot. And if there is a provocation against the Tatars and they call Wahhabis of all stripes from around the world, then what will happen. The new limited contingent in Afghanistan (Ukraine) of the USSR could not bear such a burden that Russia could. After all, troops were also introduced there under good intentions ... And you yourself will go to fight there, of course not. Young people will die, for the sake of imperial manners of GDP
    3. rolik2
      rolik2 1 March 2014 13: 00
      -4
      Quote: SVOBODA
      We need to help people create sustainable economic

      Yes? and you try you looked at the map? Where and where do the Crimea supply water, gas, oil, electricity products? From the territory of Ukraine on the isthmus, do you even imagine for a moment what will happen to the city with a millionaire in which water and gas are turned off? in two weeks it will be impossible to live in this city, and soon the summer will be gone and there is no water in the Crimea since you will provide normal life to several million people ?? Do not you know? Well, don’t mess with their snotty tips, they themselves will figure it out even without you. You only escalate the situation and provoke a conflict. You don’t understand that if you kill at least one soldier, Ukraine will be lost for you forever, guys from the South-East serve in Crimea, and there they won’t forgive them.
      1. Evgen_Vasilich
        Evgen_Vasilich 1 March 2014 13: 42
        0
        why should we, I wonder, kill someone? what are you smoking there? these are "democratizers" usually with their humanitarian bombing of this and that. start here on the site to engage in provocations ???
      2. avg
        avg 1 March 2014 14: 17
        0
        Quote: rolik2
        Yes? and you try you looked at the map? Where and where do the Crimea supply water, gas, oil, electricity products?

        There is enough gas and oil for self-sufficiency in Crimea, and other regions of Ukraine also get it. Water is also its own, with the exception of the one supplied through the "North Crimean Canal" for agricultural irrigation of the North-East of Crimea and the closure or modernization of which environmentalists have long been demanding. It's not serious about food at all, it's not Lviv who feeds everyone. There is a question with electricity, but this is not a question of survival, but of normal life. Railway and automobile communication is carried out not only through the isthmus, but also by ferries, through the Kerch Strait. Where, by the way, are they going to build a bridge? The annual budget of Crimea is $ 0.5 billion. What is this for Russia?
        And finally, most importantly, any disconnection of something for the Crimea can cause adequate measures for Ukraine on the part of Russia. So, you also need to look at cards skillfully.
      3. morpex
        morpex 1 March 2014 21: 00
        +2
        Quote: rolik2
        Can you imagine for a moment what will happen to the city with a millionaire in which the water and gas are turned off?

        Oh Sasha! They don’t think a damn thing ... If there was only a problem in water or food. I don’t know if the Russians are aware that Kadyrov’s already active battalion is operating in Crimea? Further, the development of events may be as follows. Militants from Syria will pour into the territory of Crimea, through Turkey, another pillowcase and will fight on the side of the Tatars. How do you like this? It will be a real development of events. No, the question is why Russia needs this. I have one answer. Light the wick of the civil war in Ukraine. Health-conscious people will understand why Putin needs all this.
        I am very sorry. But the development of events may be just that. And even worse ...
      4. bomg.77
        bomg.77 1 March 2014 22: 40
        0
        Quote: rolik2
        Yes? and you try you looked at the map? Where and where do the Crimea supply water, gas, oil, electricity products?
      5. sscha
        sscha 15 March 2014 19: 10
        0
        And where and "where" they supply gas and oil from the territory of Russia, have you looked? Deal with your oligarchs and Judas, and also FASHIKS, otherwise we will have to come from the Urals and Siberia! And this is not a threat, but this is advice, so, purely brotherly, otherwise the conversation (like with the Romanians) would have been different! And yet - about the virgin ... You, dear curtains, lead from the ages! All the lads of the South-West had you, and when they began to lose weight, UNA-Unso called for help! How do you like this option ??? !!! hi
        Schob without speculation: - I am 51 a year old, a Former warrior, my mother fought in World War II, my dad in Port Arthur in 48-53, and you wrote about Obama and Syria on the topic, and then I got bored! you sleep and what you eat! But not at our expense! And the fascists whom you pass-on your conscience! Coal - black, snow - white, fascist - UNA_UNSO! hi
        And you, with such an approach, "Berkut" will forgive its boys ??? Or do you want to say that the "Berkut", armed to the teeth, broke, burned, crippled the kindergarten Maidan ?? Or was he defending the law ??? You are silent - it means your conscience has woken up, and there it is not far from the "ray in the dark kingdom" of Independent ... hi
  6. delfinN
    delfinN 1 March 2014 09: 28
    +5
    Everything is just beginning
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 1 March 2014 09: 48
      +5
      It started. smile
  7. v53993
    v53993 1 March 2014 09: 32
    +2
    Not the topic, but ... Now the main director (GDP) will pause. At this moment, a monkey named Obama will hang on a palm tree, not reaching for a sweet banana (Ukraine). In the next act, the monkey falls. No banana To be continued.
    And in the process of presentation it seems that the dolls dance on their own ... Dolls are so obedient to him ... They are all puppets in dexterous and strained hands ... A thread goes up and into the darkness ...
    I am silent. The curtain is not yet closed. The fool's divorce under the nickname Obama continues.
    1. nikcris
      nikcris 1 March 2014 09: 57
      +2
      Bl - aat. Bananas do not grow on palm trees, dates and coconuts grow on palm trees. laughing
      PS Bananas - this is generally grass with TK Botanical.
    2. Altona
      Altona 1 March 2014 11: 46
      0
      Quote: v53993
      Now the main director (GDP) will pause.

      ------------------------
      He is not a director, he is one of the players at the common table, exactly the same as everyone else ... For information, we have only 143 million people with infants and not so much money ... China has much more and in Ukraine he is no less interested than ours; he is sitting there in agricultural, missile and defense projects ...
  8. Magadan
    Magadan 1 March 2014 09: 34
    +8
    IN KHARKIV FULL PPC.
    Bandera did not wait for today's rally, seized the "Oplot" and now rage throughout the city.

    http://www.trueinform.ru/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=25206

    On one of the resources I have already found very serious tips:
    the best traditions of Khimaer, you can crash into the crowd of banderlogs with several jeeps and move them a couple of times.
    The rest of the banderlogs will at least be crowded with a large crowd.
    If a large crowd - again, pass by, one drives a car, the rest throw Molotov cocktails.
    Consequently, they cannot terrorize a big city in small groups.
    You don’t need power for this - you need to remove numbers from jeeps, put on masks and optimize banderlogs

    Offices of any fascist parties - "Svolot", "Batkivshchyna", "Blow" - burn beautifully.
    They burn especially well with banderlogs inside - the doors can be bluntly supported with a simple crowbar.
    The cars of the terrorists from the Automaidan organized crime group - again, burn perfectly.

    If the city has acetone + ski + kerosene - it burns perfectly.
    You can stupidly pour fascists from the roof, and the second person at the same time throws a burning rag.
    You can spray from a garden sprayer - and again burning rags.
    It is convenient to finish burning banderlogs with any sticks / bats - even if armed, they will not be able to shoot.

    Dogs are friends of a person: they are faster than a person and it is very difficult to shoot at them if they attack 2-3 at a banderlog.
    The dog itself cannot handle it - but it will distract the banderlogs, they will not be able to repel blows with an ax.

    http://dikiy-muzhyk.livejournal.com/283257.html
    1. Korben
      Korben 1 March 2014 09: 46
      -6
      Yes, you know better what is happening in Kharkov! Well done! Read on nonsense and draw your nasty conclusions!
      1. Magadan
        Magadan 1 March 2014 10: 01
        0
        I communicate with people from there, if I haven’t guessed. I had the honor to study there in due time.
        1. Korben
          Korben 1 March 2014 19: 46
          +2
          Whom do you support, Oplot ?! Zhilin was engaged in the cashing of all Kharkov and banditry! And you clap your hands here! Kernes put the whole city on bribes! Not a single decision can be made without money, even basic! Ask your friend! Adequate people do not want this power! And am I wrong after that?
      2. ultra
        ultra 1 March 2014 11: 18
        -3
        Quote: Korben
        Yes, you know better what is happening in Kharkov

        There is information, write, and do not do idle talk!
      3. Lelek
        Lelek 1 March 2014 13: 59
        +2
        Exactly - a man got stoned, the roof moves off. That's because of people like you and Nenko Ukraine will collapse. fool
    2. v53993
      v53993 1 March 2014 11: 07
      +1
      IN KHARKIV FULL PPC.
      Bandera did not wait for today's rally, seized the "Oplot" and now rage throughout the city.

      Because our northern arctic fox is approaching them from the East.
      It’s time to block the Kinv-Lviv highway, including the railway, otherwise they will scatter like a cockroaches.
      1. IRON_MAN
        IRON_MAN 1 March 2014 13: 20
        0
        Right now, a girl familiar there, trying to protect the stronghold, all that is written is true, there will still be an unsubscribe infa.
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  9. shelva
    shelva 1 March 2014 09: 35
    +8
    I repeat (I don’t remember again) - there is no Tatar unity in the Crimea and never was. Most of them coexisted peacefully with the Russians until the Kiev authorities intervened. They did everything to erase the Russians. And the current position of Kiev - it is better that no one gets Crimea than Moscow - has been repeatedly voiced by the Maidan.
  10. mountain
    mountain 1 March 2014 09: 36
    +6
    Statements, Vasvi Ennanovich, are worth a lot, namely, the lives of tens and hundreds of civilians. And a huge blow, American, manipulators.
  11. Capyar 48315
    Capyar 48315 1 March 2014 09: 48
    +5
    West and Kiev are drooling, the military (apparently) with insignia on important points, the movement of helicopters, armored vehicles, the fleet, the robust maneuvers of the RF Armed Forces, and Putin is silent so loudly ... Oh - something unprecedented in our recent history is ripening. GROWING, STRING RINGS, AND PUTIN IS SILENT ...
  12. stroporez
    stroporez 1 March 2014 09: 48
    0
    Chot did not understand how the proud miscarriages of Gerev turned to "... hereditary slaves" ????
    1. v53993
      v53993 1 March 2014 10: 00
      0
      I did not understand how Gerev's proud miscarriages turned to "... hereditary slaves" ????

      I don’t get it either. But I realized that in order to understand them one must become like them. This does not threaten us.
  13. v53993
    v53993 1 March 2014 09: 49
    +2

    A song about the states. Do not listen to the classics gentlemen.
  14. biglow
    biglow 1 March 2014 09: 52
    +8
    The Russians in Simferopol showed who was stronger and more helpful, polite citizens and the Majlis quietly merged ... And for a couple of days Dzhamilev has been singing completely different songs ... The right of the strong acts on many sobering ones, and Kadyrov also added that it’s not good to offend Chechens ... laughing
  15. TS3sta3
    TS3sta3 1 March 2014 09: 58
    +8
    Well done Crimean Tatars - they quickly realized which side they had to get up to stay in the Crimea. otherwise they organized a rally there, supported the Nazis from the scum. I think now all the pan-Turkists of this forum should support their fellow Turks in the fight against Bandera and take the side of Russia. What a twist. laughing
    1. IRON_MAN
      IRON_MAN 1 March 2014 13: 27
      0
      At first it merged from Vkontakte into Feyzbug, and now the Crimean Tatar pro-Maidan resource has completely shut up: https://www.facebook.com/KRYM.SOS/posts/591957687555063 It can be seen that the process of a polite hint of the need for a "revaluation of values" is going on at all levels))
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 1 March 2014 22: 29
      +2
      Quote: TS3sta3
      well done Crimean Tatars - quickly realized which side should get up
      you have incorrect information wassat they clearly spoke out for Ukraine and asked that their troops be accepted into the Ministry of Internal Affairs and in which case they would fight against the aggressor ...
      Waiting for the talks of the Turkish Foreign Ministry, he is in Kiev and further instructions
      1. TS3sta3
        TS3sta3 2 March 2014 12: 31
        0
        read the article, this is the opinion of the Crimean Tatars laughing... Tahrir terrorists are against the "aggressors", so they should oppose any other government except the government of mullahs and emissaries from the UAE. let them come out - a dog's death to dogslaughing. do you disagree with the opinion of your fellow Turks? it's somehow not brotherly laughing
  16. tomcat117
    tomcat117 1 March 2014 10: 00
    +1
    Quote: delfinN
    Everything is just beginning

    CRIMEA unsinkable aircraft carrier RUSSIA on the Black Sea. The traitor Khrushchev lowered the RUSSIAN FLAG from his flagpole. It's time to get it back. How long time has passed and the turn has come!
    CRIMEA and RUSSIA will soon be ONE !!!
  17. ed65b
    ed65b 1 March 2014 10: 01
    +3
    One Valery drew attention to the statement of the Tatar. and he’s a plus for that. It really costs a lot and clearly shows that the Crimean Tatar diaspora in Crimea is not homogeneous but the most marginal part in a clear minority. Moreover, the Crimean resistance held talks with all moderate and patriotic organizations of the Tatars did the same to the deputy of Kazan. I think that Russians and Tatars and Ukrainians should not have problems. And together they will beat off any Bendera.
  18. v53993
    v53993 1 March 2014 10: 02
    +1
    Crimean Tatars are asked to help in the battle with Bandera

    Of course we will help. And also help in the fight against ourselves.
  19. Bosk
    Bosk 1 March 2014 10: 17
    -1
    It seems that a new "Caribbean crisis" is brewing ... and this time it is being rudely imposed on Russia. The third world is bad, but it is impossible to stay aside according to the principle ...
  20. v53993
    v53993 1 March 2014 10: 18
    0

    Song about Volodya. I recommend to everyone who is for Russia.
  21. v53993
    v53993 1 March 2014 10: 44
    +2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ey0Sqxan-I&feature=player_detailpage

    All Crimeans with the best wishes. We are closer than they think.
  22. v53993
    v53993 1 March 2014 10: 49
    0
    http://video.yandex.ru/search?text=%D0%BF%D0%BE%D0%BA%D0%B0%20%D0%B3%D0%BE%D1%80
    %D0%B8%D1%82%20%D1%81%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%87%D0%B0%20%D1%81%D0%BB%D1%83%D1%88%D0%B0%D
    1%82%D1%8C%20%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE&where=all&filmId=IhO5ZSZeUXI

    All Crimeans. We are with you.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 1 March 2014 14: 04
      +2
      As in the song: "... you call us - we will come to the rescue ...". soldier
  23. v53993
    v53993 1 March 2014 11: 39
    0
    I went to the online TV maidan. Some kind of glance broadcasts for benderlogs who have nowhere to run. Bearing nonsense. Gathered by the smell. It can be seen in this s.u.ch.k. and estrus.
  24. GOGY
    GOGY 1 March 2014 11: 47
    0
    Quote: Magadan
    IN KHARKIV FULL PPC.
    Bandera did not wait for today's rally, seized the "Oplot" and now rage throughout the city.

    http://www.trueinform.ru/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=25206

    On one of the resources I have already found very serious tips:
    the best traditions of Khimaer, you can crash into the crowd of banderlogs with several jeeps and move them a couple of times.
    The rest of the banderlogs will at least be crowded with a large crowd.
    If a large crowd - again, pass by, one drives a car, the rest throw Molotov cocktails.
    Consequently, they cannot terrorize a big city in small groups.
    You don’t need power for this - you need to remove numbers from jeeps, put on masks and optimize banderlogs

    Offices of any fascist parties - "Svolot", "Batkivshchyna", "Blow" - burn beautifully.
    They burn especially well with banderlogs inside - the doors can be bluntly supported with a simple crowbar.
    The cars of the terrorists from the Automaidan organized crime group - again, burn perfectly.

    If the city has acetone + ski + kerosene - it burns perfectly.
    You can stupidly pour fascists from the roof, and the second person at the same time throws a burning rag.
    You can spray from a garden sprayer - and again burning rags.
    It is convenient to finish burning banderlogs with any sticks / bats - even if armed, they will not be able to shoot.

    Dogs are friends of a person: they are faster than a person and it is very difficult to shoot at them if they attack 2-3 at a banderlog.
    The dog itself cannot handle it - but it will distract the banderlogs, they will not be able to repel blows with an ax.

    http://dikiy-muzhyk.livejournal.com/283257.html
    Thanks for the discharge - laughter is also a weapon, I liked it laughing
  25. ksendzov1971
    ksendzov1971 1 March 2014 11: 48
    +1
    Provocateurs worse than holes! Hang on poles!
  26. v53993
    v53993 1 March 2014 11: 50
    +1
    Noise severely Bryansk forest
    Music: S. Katz Lyrics: A. Sofronov, with my amendment. I'm wildly sorry in front of the author.

    Noisy severely Lviv forest,
    Blue fogs came down
    And the pines heard the surroundings
    As partisans walked along the path ...

    And a formidable night on the enemies
    They raided the fascist headquarters.
    And the bullets loudly between the trunks
    In the oak forests of Lviv whistled.

    In the forests, there is no salvation for enemies
    Soviet grenades are flying
    And the commander shouts after them:
    "Smash the invaders, guys"!

    Noisy severely Lviv forest,
    Blue fogs came down
    And the pines heard the surroundings
    How did the partisans go with victory ...
    1. Altona
      Altona 1 March 2014 12: 15
      +2
      Quote: v53993
      And a formidable night on the enemies
      They raided the fascist headquarters.
      And the bullets loudly between the trunks
      In the oak forests of Lviv whistled.

      -------------------------
      Bandera was suppressed not only by the NKVD-MGB of the USSR, but also by the inhabitants of the western regions of Ukraine ...
    2. nikcris
      nikcris 1 March 2014 12: 15
      0
      The reeds made noise ... Well, you can’t be that M ...
  27. GOGY
    GOGY 1 March 2014 11: 57
    +1
    And it’s good that the Crimean Tatars finally realized that they needed to live together in a family, and the Wahhabis and others who muddied and fools the common people had to bend the rails once and for all
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  29. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 1 March 2014 12: 13
    0
    Because they were never part of Russia. And there was Crimea!

    You can’t say better. Comments are redundant.
  30. Natalia
    Natalia 1 March 2014 12: 53
    +2
    The interception of telephone and Internet conversations showed that the Crimean Tatars called their fighters from Syria, waiting for them with all the ammunition in a month. So it’s too early to say anything.
  31. Natalia
    Natalia 1 March 2014 12: 55
    0
    The news is a little outdated (05.12.13/25/50), but on to the topic. A Chinese port will be built in the Crimea - in the village of Frunze, Saki region. The sea water area in the area of ​​the future port will be deepened to 3 meters so that large-tonnage container ships and dry cargo vessels can be received. The future port will be owned in equal shares by China and Ukraine - 4 percent each. Port construction is not the only Chinese-Ukrainian project. About this and other agreements between the President of Ukraine and official China - in the material of the correspondent of "Vesti FM" Vladimir Sinelnikov. President Yanukovych in China has agreed to build a huge deep-water commercial seaport in Crimea. The cost of the first stage of this project alone is $ 5 billion, and the implementation period is 10-10 years. The port's handling capacity is 2 million tons of cargo annually. The future port specializes in container and grain terminals. The port will be built in the village of Frunze, Saki region. Saki itself is a unique resort, both sea and balneo-mud. Sandy beaches on the coast and therapeutic mud of the Saki estuary. There are 50 sanatoriums using medicinal mud. Including the unique sanatorium named after Burdenko, where spinal diseases are treated. There are also boarding houses, children's recreation camps and tourist centers. According to environmentalists, a new huge port, transport services for this port, fuel terminals, ground movement of a huge amount of cargo, shipping of large-tonnage container ships and dry cargo vessels will inevitably pose a threat to the environmental safety of not only the Saki resort, but all resorts on the shores of the Kalamitsky Bay, including Evpatoria and the vicinity of Sevastopol. In addition to the construction of the port, China intends to lease agricultural land in the south of the country, the cost of this project is $ 1,7 billion. There is no exact information about the specific lands in question, but earlier the local mass media wrote about the possible lease of land in Crimea, where the irrigation systems built in Soviet times fell into complete decline. The likely lease term is at least 3 years. Also, China wants to build - again, in Crimea - a combined cycle power plant. That's another $ XNUMX billion. It is quite obvious that China is clearly seeking to establish itself in the Crimea. The scale of these projects is such that China will de facto establish its full control over the peninsula. Also, China will build a toll highway around Kiev - another $ XNUMX billion. This is a grandiose project, similar to the construction of the Moscow Ring Road. According to analysts, for China, these projects will be a real breakthrough in Europe.
    1. wax
      wax 1 March 2014 13: 18
      0
      What arrangements? Ukraine threw China 3 billion dollars for the grain agreement. And now in Crimea, there is nothing to wish for a single foreign power.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 1 March 2014 14: 14
        +2
        And how much does she owe Russia? About any tranches to Kiev there can be no question until the current debt is paid off. And with loyal, calm regions, conclude a direct agreement on financial and security assistance. soldier
    2. real
      real 1 March 2014 14: 30
      0
      The Chinese know more what will happen to Crimea ... from the Way, the stump is clear. Therefore, they don’t worry about the signed agreements, or rather signed them in the midst of the Maidan!
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  33. nikcris
    nikcris 1 March 2014 13: 40
    +1
    Well, everything - the Tatar wife went about it P - Th. It is a pity that she is not a hohlushka - if she would be stronger than n --- l. It is a pity that no one will see how I will drape from both of them.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 1 March 2014 14: 37
      0
      Be more careful there, keep the door open behind your back, prepare bandages, green paint, crutches. If you feel you are catching up, fall and pretend to be dead. laughing
  34. alex13-61
    alex13-61 1 March 2014 13: 56
    -1
    Quote: morpex
    .But!!! Union on the VOLUNTARY founded.

    Now, let the Crimeans say ... and they will say VIVAT RUSSIA
  35. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 1 March 2014 14: 17
    0
    I liked the article by Vasvi Ennanovich, everything is simple, clear, objective enough The threat in Crimea is quite large, it is important now to explain, especially to the deceived youth, that the "maydanutye" As they come, they will leave !!! That they are just dolls, on a string of paid puppeteers , Banderlog and neo-Nazis (already now!), even Geyrope is not needed, there is no legitimate majority government, but what's next according to the scenario: impoverishment, collapse, chaos! Well, who cares! Our peoples have already "passed" all this. It is impossible to let Banderlog even to the borders of Crimea! Believe me, most of the Ukrainians in the center and to the west will soon change their minds and understand what they have entered.
  36. Altona
    Altona 1 March 2014 18: 48
    -2
    Quote: rolik2
    I am an uncle from UKRAINE, and I live in the south of the country, I have no relation to zapadentsev, my grandfather fought.

    ---------------------------
    Well, shaw, lad? Shaw are you from Ukraine ... I served with Ukrainians from all over the USSR, I saw literally representatives of all territories and the Ukrainian mentality is excellent ... Yes, you can wake up, you can even look angrily ... But when any of you will be called to Russian to a major and through three floors they will explain how to love the Motherland, where only your arrogance goes ...
  37. ArtemBurovik
    ArtemBurovik 2 March 2014 11: 54
    +1
    First of all, it should be said that historians-ideologists of both the Near and Far Eastern and Western enemies of our ancestors have invented the "official scientific history" for us in a very ornate and cunning way, and we still believe in this "science-history." And the followers of those enemies skillfully used and still use their best practices and add their own to play off the Russians and Tatars, two strategic ethnic groups of Eurasia. Everything in order to push us against each other, and then, weakened from the internecine struggle, "bend" into a position more convenient for them and "have" separately.
    But if you look seriously and in harmony with common sense, it becomes clear that in fact Crimea (and not only Crimea) belonged to the Russians and Tatars from ancient times, for the time being they got along with each other, not listening to strangers - “eastern” and “ Western "-" adviser-teachers. "
    And in the future it will belong, God forbid. But this is the case if these two ethnic groups can “know themselves and become themselves,” as their Ancestors were.
    But for this they need to remember what they forcibly forgot during the "Romano-Germanic yoke" (in the XNUMXth-XNUMXth centuries): read about this in the articles "On the true history of the strategic ethnic groups of Eurasia" and "Genghis Khan and the Tatars : a little of what we don't know "- they are easy to find on the Internet by name.
    Ah, yes, we still came up with such a theory not so long ago that the Tatars of the Crimea are supposedly “different people different from the Tatars of Russia (Eurasia)”. But the Tatars have been a single ethnic group since ancient times, "divided" only in the ideology and false history of Westerners and other enemies of our ancestors. About this there is in the article references to more detailed works on this topic.
    Indeed, in fact, both the Russian Crimea is part of the Russian, and the Crimean Tatars are part of the Tatars of Eurasia-Russia-Tataria: “... We note that the great Tatar enlightener of the XNUMXth century, Ismail Gasprinsky, and his companions-enlighteners from the Tatars of the Volga region, the Urals and Siberia were of the opinion that the entire Tatar-Muslim population of Russia is a single people, and its (sub-) ethnic groups are only branches of one tree. And the statements of modern historians and politicians about the significant differences between the Crimean Tatars from the Tatars of the Volga and Siberia would have caused them at least perplexity ... ”(GR Enikeev, from the article“ The Triune Heritage of Our Ancestors ”): See on site "Tatars of Eurasia (true history)." The site is easy to find on the Internet by name.
    Actually, the Bolshevik Party’s Bureau of the Bolsheviks was going to evict all the Tatars of Russia to Mongolia and Transbaikalia, according to the “false story about the Mongol-Tatars” composed by their predecessors, because the Tatars had been hindering all despots from time immemorial by virtue of their humane Horde mentality. However, just like their Russian compatriots - they, as you know, as well as the Tatars, were thoroughly reduced by the members of the Partlyoid Bureau, continuing the work of the Romanovs, especially Peter 1, especially his curators, and followers.
    Everything is written in books in which the false story of the "bad Tatars" is fully exposed, logically and with the use of previously hidden facts:
    1). "Crown of the Horde Empire"
    2). “In the footsteps of the black legend”
    3). The Great Horde: Friends, Enemies, and Heirs
    4). "The legacy of the Tatars."
    The author of the books is independent historian and professional human rights activist G.R. Enikeev.