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Sevastopol. View from the outside

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Sevastopol. View from the outside



This is the first (and hopefully last) article I wrote. Most likely, not everyone will like it, and not everyone will agree. It was written from the point of view of an ordinary resident of a small hero-city, an assessment and analysis of what is happening, forecasts of events and assumptions about their premises were provided. All conclusions can be disputed, I am not a political scientist, I am an energy engineer.

Start over. Background events. Maidan happened, they sent "Berkut", maydanovtsy burned tires and seized buildings, slogans "Urine Muscovites, Jews, sterilize Russians, long live democracy" sound on the one hand, on the other hand they quieterly wait and wait, support a little, but no one especially rampage not rushing

In February, the Maidan activists sharply intensified, against the background of the complete impotence of the government, they seized power and began to crack down on all the "unidentified". Here I especially want to emphasize the following:

a) the leadership of the Ministry of Interior merged "Berkut" and "internal", and for one for that I would have them ... (crossed out by the editor);

b) open to the public "Mezhyhirya", opened many cases, which clearly goes to a huge plus Bandera;

c) impotence and inaction of the authorities "is provided" by blocking foreign accounts;

d) representatives of the South-East and Crimea met in Kharkov, talked about something with Russia and decided to stay in Ukraine. These shout that the Maidan is not even bad, we just do not know everything (assumptions on this issue are outlined below), some of them still make moves towards neighboring Russia, but some are uncertain and strange (see below for more );

e) after the “election” of the president and the new “democratic” government, the Rada stamps the laws like dumplings and then approves them;

f) Yulia Vladimirovna, the Valkyrie of the Revolution, was released; however, her meeting on the Maidan and in the West raises many questions;

g) an official investigation begins with search for extreme punishment of perpetrators of law enforcement agencies. Against the background of the “public and voluntary” repentance of the Lviv “Berkut” in Lviv, it becomes clear how the certification of personnel will take place. Perhaps even the study of the main provisions of the book "Mein Kampf" followed by writing an essay (this is the lyrics);

h) there are days of mourning for those killed in "peaceful demonstrations" and everyone mourns for their own dead. Here I would like to note that if the security forces were sent to Kiev by order, then the Bandera came themselves. I express my sincere condolences to the families of the dead warriors of power structures;

i) you also can’t bypass the blocking of the broadcast of the closing ceremony of the Olympic Games in Sochi, let me remind you that ALL references to its broadcast were “cut out” in Ukraine. Here, the main question is where does this, in general, poor Ukraine have such opportunities, given the resources spent by Russia;

k) the normal exchange of information is greatly disturbed, there is a constant infusion of various Trojan horses, and the infusion is so widespread and massive that again awkward questions arise;

k) massive betrayal of almost all politicians, feverish repainting in a convenient color (chameleons nervously smoking aside) practically deprived the Southeast and Crimea of ​​leaders who the people could follow;

m) new leaders (Chaly in Sevastopol, for example), for the time being, they only talk about protection from Bandera Democrats. However, so far there are no clear and meaningful statements about HOW WE WILL LIVE FURTHER;

All the above leads to the following conclusions:

a) policies of Yu.-V. and the Crimea received a clear signal from Russia: together with you, we do not need Ukraine. While Kiev is ready to leave them at the trough, but with the condition of handing over the territories under their control. This is also indicated by the run for the presidency of ALL UKRAINE Dobkin;

b) the newly elected leaders Yu.-V. and of the Crimea, they are not yet able to control the situation normally, since “Kiev agreed” almost everywhere in the apparatus;

c) on the background News from Kiev "everything is fine with us, we are in Europe, what are you buzzing" there is a decomposition of the self-organized Yu.V. and Crimea;

d) the absence of objective news about what is happening, the presence of only the Kiev point of view, which sooner or later will lead to "everyone has gone home”;

e) if in the near future Yu.-V. and the Crimea will not formulate the principles of how to live on; they will not find their leaders and anchor points of resistance; this will lead to a repetition of the results of the first Orange Revolution, when s.-V. and the Crimea has been wiped out, regionals ob ... con, and this is all over;

e) it should be borne in mind that promises to forgive everything and to live peacefully are given not by the first persons of the opposition, but by those whom we practically do not know, and, notice, in the RUSSIAN LANGUAGE! What then will allow the first persons to disown them and begin to sculpt "Svidomo Ukrainians" on their own patterns, punishing the innocent and rewarding the guilty.

Now assumptions:

a) if the information blockade is not broken, there will be a grandiose overflow of movements, there will be no one to defend or attack, which is what Banderovites need;

b) if the slogans and rules of life for the future are not formulated, people, looking like guarding monuments and barricades, will disperse themselves, since no one will come to seize them, will come later, when everyone disperses, and tumble down monuments, rename the streets by law. I think this is the basis for the calculation of Westerners;

c) if the employment of the teams in peacetime is not formed, they will disperse themselves, the most reasonable solution is to conduct shooting, trainings, etc. People must believe that the government trusts them, to feel self-confidence;

f) if the slogans do not meet the expectations, the protest is likely to subside and go out. For everything to work out, we need real actions to improve the lives of the population, that is, many will have to lose something, you know what that means;

g) the average resident Yu.-V. and the Crimea will not go to fight for those who have recently crushed his "Lexus", delayed wages, selected an apartment, in the end, just despised. In order for this to happen, you need to really change the worldview and those in power. It is really necessary to lose something in favor of this resident, you understand that very few people will voluntarily agree to it, or rather, no one will agree;

h) Russia now practically does not interfere and the reason is on the surface - as soon as there is interference, Ukraine will be so pumped up with money and benefits that only the lazy will not shout "curse Moskali", the wait-and-see attitude is now the most profitable, since the West is spending resources, but the result not yet seen.

In conclusion, I want to say to everyone that the secession of one of Sevastopol will do nothing, the minimum provision of one’s own needs is achieved only with the secession of the Crimea. The best option is the department of Yu.-V. and the Crimea together, as a single state, only then can we provide for ourselves and not become freeloaders, this is most relevant in the light of recent statements by the “prisoner of conscience”: “We’ll save, we’ll sell electricity abroad.”

Freeloaders and weaklings are not needed by anyone, they are pitied and despised quietly, we must understand this.

I also want to say to all the fighters and commanders of the "Berkut" units and the internal troops, and other units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs involved in the elimination of Maidan. We here in the Crimea, in Sevastopol, really want the winning gang to forget about you and leave your families and loved ones alone, but it is difficult and difficult to believe in it. All those who want security for themselves and their loved ones, who are already tired of repenting for those who betrayed you and fled, are invited to the Crimea. You know how we met our fighters, they carried out the order, and they have nothing to repent of. Come visit, We will help all that we can!
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  1. Alex 241
    Alex 241 28 February 2014 07: 58
    +30
    Three wounded soldiers of the "Golden Eagle" arrived in St. Petersburg for treatment! S.-PETERSBURG, 28 Feb - RIA Novosti, Oleg Salomatin. Three soldiers of the special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine "Berkut", who need medical assistance after the clashes in Kiev, will be treated at the St. Petersburg "Hospital for War Veterans"; it turns out how many more of their colleagues need the help of doctors, Igor Vysotsky, a deputy of the St. Petersburg Legislative Assembly, a former Afghan warrior, told RIA Novosti.

    In St. Petersburg, on the initiative of veteran and Cossack organizations, a public aid headquarters was created for Ukraine. Igor Vysotsky, deputy of the St. Petersburg ZakS, deputy head of the All-Russian public organization of veterans of the Battle Brotherhood, and Georgy Smirnov, deputy of the ZakS of the Leningrad Region, take part in its work. Among the issues discussed at the headquarters are assistance to the Russian-speaking population of Ukraine, as well as to the Berkut fighters and their families.

    “The issue of the three Berkut fighters has been resolved, and the number of employees (Berkut employees) in total needs help - this is being clarified at the moment,” Vysotsky said.

    According to him, at the moment three Berkut residents are already in St. Petersburg, but have not yet been hospitalized. Also, Ukraine’s aid headquarters intends to appeal to the executive authorities of St. Petersburg regarding the provision of temporary housing to members of the families of the Berkut soldiers.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 February 2014 08: 02
      +23
      The author, what kind of thoughts are so tragic, the fate of Crimea is now being decided in Moscow and most likely the issue has already been resolved, looking at recent events. The South East is still engaged in masturbation, but sooner or later it will decide. Money only for the payment of pensions now needs 1 billion bucks. Time is money lol
      1. major071
        major071 28 February 2014 08: 43
        +15
        hi Here I completely agree that "time is money". The longer the lack of money lasts, the more ferocious the people will become. And the West cannot give money at once, they will still be feeding them with promises. Against this background, the silence of Russia, its wait-and-see attitude, becomes clear. Although, Putin ordered to send humanitarian aid to Crimea.
        1. poccinin
          poccinin 28 February 2014 10: 44
          +3
          Geyropa will not give anything at all. The budget for 2014 has already been planned. And no one will cut it for the sake of Ukraine. This is the First. The second is that there is no 100 billion euros in Geyrop. They will promise but will not give anything. Third, they will have elections in May.
        2. Vovka levka
          Vovka levka 28 February 2014 15: 07
          -1
          Quote: major071
          hi Here I completely agree that "time is money". The longer the lack of money lasts, the more ferocious the people will become. And the West cannot give money at once, they will still be feeding them with promises. Against this background, the silence of Russia, its wait-and-see attitude, becomes clear. Although, Putin ordered to send humanitarian aid to Crimea.

          Crimeans themselves chop the branch on which they sit. If it is not calm in the Crimea, then who will go to rest for them?
          Politicians always need to show their need and they don’t give a damn about ordinary people.
          Pans hitching, and in the serf, the forelock bursts.
      2. varov14
        varov14 28 February 2014 12: 23
        0
        So our deputies are for giving money to the new government. Well, all the same - their approach to seizing the dough is different. We have decaying capitalism, they have a nascent National Socialism.
      3. Babon
        Babon 28 February 2014 12: 58
        +3
        Yes, and China filed a lawsuit in the London Arbitration for 3 billion tanks for the disruption of grain supplies to Ukraine. In general, time is money.
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 28 February 2014 12: 59
      +3
      "Petersburg Cossacks" laughing even touches.
  2. horoh
    horoh 28 February 2014 07: 59
    +5
    A normal article, not quite of course, but I agree with many things !!!
  3. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 28 February 2014 08: 01
    +21
    A sober, normal judgment of a single person. Without pathos, hatred. For this is a plus. I respect sober-minded people. hi
    My personal opinion is that people themselves must determine their future. And if we assume that they want someone to decide for them, then there is nothing to blame for subsequently oppressing you. This is in relation to the South-East of Ukraine and the Crimea. They gathered and decided what you need. Bandera won what they want, then decide. Therefore, sitting and waiting for Russia to come and solve all your problems would be very naive. After all, you are an independent state, judging by the rules of international law. After all, no one flashes, like the Bandera in Kiev, to get together and make their decision, after having spit on them. They spit on you. Or become like Bulgaria, Romania, where the Masters decide everything for them. There are plenty of examples of the development of countries after revolutions. And Geyropa’s noodles should not be taken for the truth. Therefore, gentlemen, everything is in your hands. And so that Russia comes to the rescue. Well, sooooo good West arguments are needed. Like something of South Ossetia. Everything is up to you.
    This is just my opinion.
    1. avg
      avg 28 February 2014 12: 54
      +1
      Quote: Rurikovich
      This is just my opinion.

      I fully support. I think this is the opinion of many.
    2. Aleksandr65
      Aleksandr65 28 February 2014 13: 52
      +4
      And in my opinion, it is stupid to scatter OWN people. How does a Kharkiv citizen differ from a chicken? Yes, nothing! Do you have a lot of Russian people left, that you are giving up on it? "By yourself, by yourself" .... Can you imagine how disunited and suppressed they are? How they will get together, how they are organized - without money, without media, with wild opposition and threats! And for all families, the first object for blackmail, work, in the end. For 23 years they have been PRESENTED by a whole ukrostate, proving that they are nobody. Put yourself in their shoes. So we must not wait for their performances, but initiate them and help, help ... These people are a huge potential for Russia. Rather than being made enemies of Russia, wouldn't it be better to help them stay Russian?
      Alexander Matrosov (90 years old) is from Dnepropetrovsk.
      1. viktorR
        viktorR 28 February 2014 16: 43
        +1
        Moreover, the Bendovites are organized, financed and supported by the media West !!! And we are again in the minority, and even here some are thinking that we ourselves must ... All that we owe and all that we can certainly do, and Russia, thank God, helps us. I am 99% sure that those who captured VR of Crimea are Russian specialists, since I heard about the organization of Russian-speaking Crimea for the first time yesterday)). Although I have lived in Simferopol for a long time, I now live in Sevastopol. Thanks to Russia for what it is already doing. And Yaytsenyuki and Tyagniboki know who is there, so they’ve done it, and now they’re yelling that Russia’s partners, etc., have done it ...
    3. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 28 February 2014 20: 59
      0
      Quote: Rurikovich
      Therefore, sitting and waiting for Russia to come and solve all your problems would be very naive

      Absolutely agree. Freedom, prosperity, confidence in the future cannot fall from the sky or obtained by someone. Everything is in your hands, if most of the Little Russians really for close integration with Russia prove it, and not by words at the rally, but by actions. Russia will help to help, but for this it is necessary to see sincere activity and any serious actions of the southeast and Crimea. And so it reminds me of the situation in 1914, when Russia got into the war for the Serbs, which it absolutely didn’t need, having lost about 2 million of its population, while the Serbs were far from active like we were in 1941-45. To summarize - today's wait-and-see reaction is reasonable, maximally meeting the interests of Russia. In any situation, time is playing for us, we can intervene at any moment and it is unlikely that anyone can really oppose something to us, the West is not ready to fight with Russia for its interests in Ukraine, and it has no chance, Ukraine is not Venezuela in relation to Russia both geographically and historically and geopolitically.
  4. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 28 February 2014 08: 02
    +4
    Posted by Gromila555 hi and if everything goes according to a clear and long-planned plan by Russia? and it's not just waiting, is it tactics? how do you like this option? maybe we don’t need the whole territory of Ukraine, and then there’s a big redistribution of the map ...
    1. Deniska
      Deniska 28 February 2014 14: 17
      0
      It is clear that we do not need the whole territory of Ukraine;) This is understood as a tick in the Russian Federation and ON !!! Ukraine. This is precisely what the Westerners are afraid of. If there are no budget-forming areas ON !!! Ukraine, how they will live, even with Kiev.
  5. saag
    saag 28 February 2014 08: 03
    +5
    The "damned questions" of the Russian intelligentsia - "What to do?", "How to be?" and "Who is to blame?" Let's start from the beginning, i.e. with the answer to the first question - be consistent. since you said "a", then you need to say "b", it means to bend your line to the end, to achieve your goal, and the voiced goal was to achieve maximum autonomy for Crimea, all these secession slogans will play against you, and other regions should take a closer look at your little experience, Odessa in life was a city of port-franco, why in one word the regions of the southeast do not swing towards wide autonomy and no one in this case will call you a separatist, at least the law is not violated. Question number two, to develop cooperative ties with the Russian Federation, now the GDP has instructed to provide assistance at the regional level, number three - even Professor Preobrazhensky said that the devastation is not in the toilets, but in the heads, blame your own passivity, in such a critical time, contemplation is inappropriate and the thesis "my hut on the edge" turns out to be extremely harmful.
  6. alicante11
    alicante11 28 February 2014 08: 04
    +8
    Everything is too bad in the article. If I would agree with the S-V leadership, what does the leadership in Crimea dislike? The Armed Forces and the government occupied completely in the style of Maydauns, the students are good. The Tatars were slapped with tinsel in Simferopol, well, of course, they got it themselves, but the cops did not have enough to harness into the intra-Crimean showdown. But there were simply more Tatars. Well, they were preparing, only the "field" (the Armed Forces and the government) remained with the Russians. And already taught by "bitter experience", he put armed people there. I hope that these are Kiev Berkut, very angry, and now also with machine guns (poor Tatars, if they turn up). Checkpoints at the entrance to the Crimea were set up. What else do you need? People are working.

    The only thing I agree with is that standing still dampens. Moreover, financial resources are by no means unlimited, and people need to feed their families. In Crimea, they understand this and have allocated money to finance self-defense units. But the question is how much resources are enough. Therefore, it is necessary to gain a foothold, regroup and advance. Take power first in the fluctuating regions, and then recapture Kiev. Otherwise, the author’s script may well work.
  7. Kite
    Kite 28 February 2014 08: 05
    +6
    Quote: horoh
    not quite sure, but I agree with many
    ??
    politicians Yu.V. and Crimea received a clear signal from Russia: together with you we do not need Ukraine. While Kiev is ready to leave them at the feeder, but subject to the surrender of territories under their control. This is also indicated by the running for president of ALL UKRAINE Dobkin
    - reservation, speculation? Or already a decadent mood?
    The politicians could hardly say that, but I will say that I have a strong sense of disgust towards the Westerners, maybe I will forgive, but "breathing the same air with them" is disgusting.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 28 February 2014 08: 29
      +8
      Quote: Kite
      maybe I will forgive, but "to breathe the same air with them" is disgusting.

      So they will not let you breathe !!!!

      The head of the Headquarters of the National Resistance in Ivano-Frankivsk Vasily Popovich and the local coordinator of the Right Sector Vasily Abramov assured that the masked guys who rob shops, pharmacies and apartments, are engaged in vandalism in the region, have nothing to do with the Right Sector , nor to "People’s Self-Defense."
      “All further aggressive actions unauthorized by the Maidan coordination council against state, communal, public, private institutions and organizations, their property, as well as manifestations of vandalism, pogroms and destruction of material, cultural and spiritual values ​​are provocative, hostile and criminal, aimed at creating destabilizing processes in the life of our land. ”
      At the suggestion of journalists to remove masks from their faces so that victims of pogroms could distinguish vandals sanctioned by the Maidan’s council from provocateurs, Vasily Abramov replied: “It’s not you who put masks on us and you won’t remove them.”
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-140013.html
      1. inkass_98
        inkass_98 28 February 2014 11: 55
        +2
        All this gopota must first put on a hemp tie, and then a number on the leg. You can leave the mask if you so desire. As you know, "kill everyone in a row, then God will figure out where yours are." So what's the difference, whether they are self-propelled pogormiks or organized by the "Right Sector", the end must be the same for them.
  8. shelva
    shelva 28 February 2014 08: 08
    +5
    Sevastopol - Crimea - Black Sea - Russia - together we will defeat any adversary.
  9. uralets81
    uralets81 28 February 2014 08: 20
    +4
    WE CAN'T JUST TAKE THERE AND MERCH UKRAINE. VVP HAS ALREADY PROVIDED THAT WE ARE NOT ALREADY THAT WERE IN THE 90X-00X AND WILL NOT ALLOW IT TO BE DONE AGAINST OUR INTERESTS. EVERYTHING GOES ON PLAN
  10. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 28 February 2014 08: 29
    +4
    from the Don.
    The author has a sober look at what is happening. Delaying the referendum on the status of Crimea in May is the impossibility of holding it by 70%! There is no determination to change people in power, quickly hold elections, knowing who is breathing, then at the request of deputies to conduct purges at the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the prosecutor’s office and etc. But this is not enough to want, it must be done, and not sit on the huts and wait for the uncle to come and do everything for them!
  11. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 28 February 2014 08: 32
    +12
    I read the material with a BIG INTEREST.
    I hardly speak out on the Ukrainian trouble ... I do not believe the average politicians.

    Thank you very much for the article, Ivan (Gromila555).

    GOOD LUCK TO YOU !!!
    We are always with you. And not only morally.
    wink
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 28 February 2014 15: 34
      +3
      Helicopters fly to Belbek (Sevastopol Airport)
      1. Russ69
        Russ69 28 February 2014 15: 51
        0
        Quote: Alex 241
        Helicopters fly to Belbek (Sevastopol Airport)

        A couple of days ago, they still started to explain why the GDP is silent, does nothing. True, he is silent now ... smile
        1. VAF
          VAF 28 February 2014 16: 27
          0
          Quote: Russ69
          A couple of days ago, they still started to explain why the GDP is silent, does nothing. True, he is silent now ...


          Why is silent? instructed DAM to prepare financial assistance to Kiev and coordinate all issues with the IMF.
          And then ... Ukrainian helicopters sad
          1. PLO
            PLO 28 February 2014 19: 27
            0
            hello Sergey hi
            And then helicopters .. Ukrainian :(

            they say that Russian helicopters

            and if you look closely at the extreme helicopter at the end of the video with the landing gear released, i.e. most likely Mi-35

            here the video quality is better, you can see
    2. VAF
      VAF 28 February 2014 16: 25
      0
      Quote: Aleks tv
      I read the material with a BIG INTEREST.
      I hardly speak out on the Ukrainian trouble ... I do not believe the average politicians.

      Thank you very much for the article, Ivan (Gromila555).


      Alex, welcome! to you +! drinks (since I wrote all my thoughts), the author is also + for the article (many conclusions are not very good, but .. opinion and view have an opinion .. respect: drinks)

      now the question is Lesha .. where did you get this photo from ... because I try not to allow myself and the dog to take pictures .. and here .. to you belay
      True, the car is a little different. Yes, and SOBAKIN's color is a little different and there are no cages in the trunk .. but everything else .. exactly like that! good
      We are on a walk drinks
  12. Wellych
    Wellych 28 February 2014 08: 40
    +3
    In order not to fall into a coma from the torment of existence, you just need to decide at some point who are their own and who are strangers, even if they are among their own.
  13. Auralski
    Auralski 28 February 2014 08: 43
    +8
    Thanks to the author!
    I wanted to know the opinion of just such a Crimean.
    Somewhat minor, - now the situation is improving.
    And too much about pumping Ukraine with Western goods. If they do, it’s for "maintaining the pants", which will then be lowered.
    Hold on man! We will drink with you in free Crimea! drinks
  14. VADEL
    VADEL 28 February 2014 08: 46
    +6
    Announced in Russia, Yanukovych is the smallest trump card of the VVP (who played "Fool" understands what card we are talking about). The senior trump cards have not yet entered the "game", and in this "game" the lives of many thousands of our relatives are at stake.
    1. viktorR
      viktorR 28 February 2014 16: 59
      +1
      Large maps (or even heavy) 15km from the Ukrainian border, exercises there near the maps)).
  15. saag
    saag 28 February 2014 09: 19
    +2
    there was and is at least an unofficial union of the northern lands in Germany - the Hansa, the Maghreb in Africa, what prevents it from being done with the Southeast and Crimea? Name her, for example, Tavrida, I’ll make a film about her :-)
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 28 February 2014 11: 57
      0
      So it is called - Tavria and New Russia.
  16. gfhjkm
    gfhjkm 28 February 2014 09: 45
    -2
    You just need to wait a bit when pensions and salaries will not be paid in Ukraine and loans will be refused. It’s simple to offer them 100 yards of greenery for the Crimea, it’s enough to pay off your debts and even enough for modernization under the EU. And most importantly, without war.
    1. skifd
      skifd 28 February 2014 10: 02
      +2
      Quote: gfhjkm
      It’s simple to offer them 100 yards of greenery for the Crimea, it’s enough to pay off your debts and even enough for modernization under the EU


      What a fright? Yes, even if they agreed, who would allow this "new power" so to speak ??? Western curators ?? !!! Yes, not really! In geopolitics for the s..ranny cache, the bridgeheads are not drained.
    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 28 February 2014 13: 57
      0
      Quote: gfhjkm
      Yes, yes, and enough for modernization under the EU

      for modernization they need 0,75 - 1 trillion. $ ...
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  17. skifd
    skifd 28 February 2014 09: 55
    +2
    Soberly, without snot, technically clear. A definite plus to the author.
    The day before yesterday I watched "politics" on the first, where more than half of the level of reflection of the situation did not reach him. And yesterday Solovyov had no ice on RTR.
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    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 28 February 2014 14: 00
      0
      Quote: skifd
      The day before yesterday I watched "politics" on the first, where more than half of the level of reflection of the situation did not reach him. And yesterday Solovyov had no ice on RTR.

      Wait, I’m watching the life news, so there one political scientist from the maydanutyh said that they would strike the first blow at Bryansk and Smolensk, you see, they used to be part of the “Hukrainian Derzhava” ... Whinnying for a long time ...
  18. Weniamin
    Weniamin 28 February 2014 09: 57
    +1
    Good article. Direct plan to action.
  19. saag
    saag 28 February 2014 10: 02
    +1
    Quote: gfhjkm
    loans will be refused

    they won’t refuse, it’s just that the conditions will be wow what, especially the IMF
  20. ed65b
    ed65b 28 February 2014 10: 15
    +2
    In western Ukraine, armed gangs cut through stupidly robbing and looting. The question is, who will fight with them and what will the new authorities do with uncontrolled militants ???
    1. VAF
      VAF 28 February 2014 16: 35
      0
      Quote: ed65b
      In western Ukraine, armed gangs cut through stupidly robbing and looting.


      So it's the same in our bandits and Fascists, but according to "ihem ... HERO and Vilna Ukraine" wassat
      And we, in the sense of Our Authority ... will provide them with financial assistance ... so that they would not die of hunger fool
  21. Navy7981
    Navy7981 28 February 2014 10: 50
    +2
    I read an interesting interview here
    "After the war, as a result of Operation Vistula, the Ukrainians were expelled from these lands, therefore ethnic justice suggests that these lands should be returned to Ukraine. I'm talking about Przemysl and a number of other regions, "Tarasenko said. A member of the Right Sector also noted that they intend to return the land using diplomatic methods." We are not an imperial power, we do not intend to take foreign lands, we only want to take what belongs to us", - said Tarasenko.
    More details: http://www.rosbalt.ru/ukraina/2014/02/27/1238245.html it’s strange when the historical territories of Russia want the same thing - it’s impossible !!! We, too, just want to take ours.

    For example, I want Ukraine to preserve its territory, so to speak! Those that came before 1919 of the year. It's okay. Why suddenly the lands for which they did not fight, did not suddenly die "historically belong" to them.
  22. saag
    saag 28 February 2014 10: 55
    0
    let them, they themselves do not understand in their nationalist frenzy that they dig a hole for themselves, for God's sake
    1. gfhjkm
      gfhjkm 28 February 2014 11: 34
      -4
      It seems that the scenario of Awan is being played out. Today, Yanyk will probably speak to introduce a limited contingent to Ukraine. If this happens then everyone is waiting for the mobilization agenda.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 28 February 2014 11: 43
        +2
        There will be no mobilization. Special forces and riot police are mobilized forever and this is the main active force, which, in my humble opinion, is more than enough. so that the rats would crawl along the cracks. And if there is a need for a military operation, we will manage contract soldiers. At least for now. And we'll see.
  23. polly
    polly 28 February 2014 11: 32
    +5
    "Everyone who wants security for themselves and their loved ones, who are already tired of repenting for those who betrayed you and ran away, are invited to Crimea"
  24. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 28 February 2014 11: 40
    +2
    In the Crimea, the villages of Chongar and Armenian have already blocked (the main highways and railways). It is necessary to put a block post in Vishnevka (bypass road) and then not a single Bender scum will creep.
    1. Sma11
      Sma11 28 February 2014 12: 16
      +1
      Arsen Avakov
      about an hour ago · edited
      Crimea. I report the situation at the end of the night so that I would not eat rumors:

      1. Belbek Airport. Blocked by the military units of the Russian fleet. Inside the airport are the military and border guards of Ukraine. Outside - the military in camouflage and with weapons without identification marks, but not hiding their belongings. The airport does not work. On the outer perimeter are the posts of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine. There is no armed conflict yet.

      2. Simferopol Airport. Around 12 nights, a group in civilian uniform, about 100 people who identified themselves as Cossack Hundreds, breaking the fence on the airport territory, entered the airfield field.
      By the forces of the internal troops and the police, these people were first forced into the airport building, and then completely outside the territory. No weapons were used. The area of ​​the airport was abandoned by the “Cossacks” at about one in the morning — they plunged into the tented KAMAZ trucks and left.
      Around 1.30 nights, several 119 military trucks arrived in the airport building with unmarked camouflage automatic weapons. We entered the airport building and placed in the restaurant. They do not hide their belonging to the armed forces of the Russian Federation. To the questions of the Ukrainian police officers “you are military and have no right to be here” - they answer briefly - we have no instructions to negotiate with you. The situation is static, weapons on both sides were not used. The Russian military statically monitor the operation of the airport without directly interfering.

      The internal troops and the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine strengthened the squads in the airport area. The voltage rises.
      Law enforcement agencies will not be able to withstand regular military forces.

      I evaluate what is happening as the ARMED INVASION AND OCCUPATION. IN VIOLATION OF ALL INTERNATIONAL TREATIES AND REGULATIONS. This is a direct provocation of armed bloodshed on the territory of a sovereign state.
      This is no longer the competence of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. This is the competence of the NSDC.
      There is as yet no direct armed conflict, diplomats must say.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 28 February 2014 12: 30
        +2
        Quote: Sma11
        Arsen Avakov
        about an hour ago · edited
        Crimea. I report the situation at the end of the night so that I would not eat rumors:

        Well, and here many were afraid that Moscow indistinctly mumbles and does not give out to the mountain a bunch of resumes, as Kiev’s glad ... Moscow was doing business at that time.
        wink

        AleksYou just don’t worry. Here and so, in recent months tantrums were above the roof. But who does not interfere in anything. There just needs to be at least some kind of force that will ensure order. The fact that Ukraine cannot do this, we have already seen everything here. And these actions are aimed precisely at what would cool the hot zapadensky heads and calmly deal with everyone at the prosecutor's office, and not in the trenches. Yanukovych in Barvikha, everything has already been explained. Immunity, unlike the west, was really guaranteed. Now we are going to stretch ourselves a bit, bring him to Kiev, transplant all the dashing ones, and then re-elect him, with which he completely agrees.
        We will save Ukraine (all), we will take Crimea to ourselves. In extreme cases, belch Lviv region and some adjacent (but not likely).
        A curtain.
        smile
        1. Deniska
          Deniska 28 February 2014 14: 45
          0
          Al_lexx SU Today, 12:30 ↑
          Quote: Sma11
          Arsen Avakov
          about an hour ago · edited
          Crimea. I report the situation at the end of the night so that I would not eat rumors:
          Well, and here many were afraid that Moscow indistinctly mumbles and does not give out to the mountain a bunch of resumes, as Kiev’s glad ... Moscow was doing business at that time.
          wink

          Aleks, you just do not worry. Here and so, in recent months tantrums were above the roof. But who does not interfere in anything. There just needs to be at least some kind of force that will ensure order. The fact that Ukraine cannot do this, we have already seen everything here. And these actions are aimed precisely at what would cool the hot zapadensky heads and calmly deal with everyone at the prosecutor's office, and not in the trenches. Yanukovych in Barvikha, everything has already been explained. Immunity, unlike the west, was really guaranteed. Now we are going to stretch ourselves a bit, bring him to Kiev, transplant all the dashing ones, and then re-elect him, with which he completely agrees.
          We will save Ukraine (all), we will take Crimea to ourselves. In extreme cases, belch Lviv region and some adjacent (but not likely).
          A curtain.


          I didn't put any marks, but I wanted to put "-"))
          1. Yanukovych - waste material.
          2. IT AGREES - see paragraph 1
          3.Ukraine save (all) - Personally, I'm not going to feed the BANDERLOGUE - FASCIS at my own expense !!!
          4. smile - request
          1. Al_lexx
            Al_lexx 28 February 2014 15: 33
            +1
            Quote: Deniska
            Personally, I'm not going to feed the BANDERLOG - FASCIST at my own expense !!!

            And who said that we are going to feed them?

            Firstly, western Ukraine, this is not entirely banderlog. It is necessary to distinguish and not mow all under one comb. And then they themselves under the fascists zakos.
            And secondly, the Nazis are not fed, if they do not work as prisoners of war for the good of the country, they are simply destroyed. Without any pity or doubt.
      2. Russ69
        Russ69 28 February 2014 13: 00
        +1
        Quote: Sma11
        1. Belbek Airport. Blocked by the military units of the Russian fleet.

        Video, you don’t understand who really is dark ...
      3. Russ69
        Russ69 28 February 2014 15: 54
        +1
        Quote: Sma11
        I evaluate what is happening as the ARMED INVASION AND OCCUPATION. IN VIOLATION OF ALL INTERNATIONAL TREATIES AND REGULATIONS.

        Well appreciated, and then what?
  25. Russ69
    Russ69 28 February 2014 12: 03
    +1
    Quote: Al_lexx
    It is necessary to put a block post in Vishnevka (bypass road) and then not a single Bender scum will creep.

    Most likely worth it ...
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 28 February 2014 12: 33
      +1
      Quote: Russ69
      Quote: Al_lexx
      It is necessary to put a block post in Vishnevka (bypass road) and then not a single Bender scum will creep.

      Most likely worth it ...

      So I think.
      Of course, one small road, not three, and even more so not two railways, but as the experience of the Second World War shows, sometimes the country side can play a role. Those. that last effort, when the last battalion decides the outcome of the battle between the two armies.

      Overlap. No doubt. I just wanted a respected audience to look at the cards.
  26. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 28 February 2014 12: 18
    +2
    <<< The best option is Yu.-V. and Crimea together, as a single state, only then can we provide ourselves and not become parasites, >>>
    This is really the best and, most importantly, achievable result for Russia! Stop trending about the unity of Ukraine, it has long been not only divided, but literally split and wasting efforts and resources, and, God forbid, also paying with people's lives to glue this split, to maintain "blown" unity - this is a tragic mistake! We must wait until the Maydanutyans fully taste the delights of the Bandera revolution today without even having money to pay for pensions and salaries, and their curators in the West will not "send" them with their entreaties for money. Then many of those who have joined the maydanuts out of ignorance and naivety will open their eyes - into what hopeless ass the Russophobic screamers from the Maidan have led them! Meanwhile, Russia to provide assistance to South-East and Crimea in the formation of structures of local self-government and self-defense from the Maydanuts! Having tasted Bandera's lawlessness and pokyrkavshis without money in the ass of the European association, the central and even western regions of Ukraine after a while themselves will be requested to the camp of the opponents of the Maidan!
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 28 February 2014 15: 28
      0
      Quote: Goldmitro
      This is really the best and, most importantly, achievable result for Russia! Stop trending about the unity of Ukraine, it has long been not only divided, but literally split and spend energy and money, and, God forbid, also pay with people's lives to glue this split <...>

      You understand the simple thing that western Ukraine, by and large, is not needed by anyone. Moreover, there will be another, real stronghold for the destruction of Russian statehood. Those. again, the endless trade of Ukrainians to the west, for the sake of satisfaction, another transshipment point (airport) for drugs, another base for even more rabid anti-Russian fascists. Do you want that?
      One side. I can’t disagree with you, because you won’t be forcibly sweet. On the other hand, there is only a hard and deep mopping-up operation, for the sake of restoring order and normal life for the population. And then it will be possible to see, if we want, a Western referendum.

      However, I am a little fond of imperatives. Of course, we have few chances to save western Ukraine, if you do not resort to harsh repressions, which can only be embittered once again. The Kremlin is unlikely to do so.
  27. Gromila555
    28 February 2014 12: 38
    +2
    Quote: saag
    The "damned questions" of the Russian intelligentsia - "What to do?", "How to be?" and "Who is to blame?" Let's start from the beginning, i.e. with the answer to the first question - be consistent. since you said "a", then you need to say "b", it means to bend your line to the end, to achieve your goal, and the voiced goal was to achieve maximum autonomy for Crimea, all these secession slogans will play against you, and other regions should take a closer look at your little experience, Odessa in life was a city of port-franco, why in one word the regions of the southeast do not swing towards wide autonomy and no one in this case will call you a separatist, at least the law is not violated. Question number two, to develop cooperative ties with the Russian Federation, now the GDP has instructed to provide assistance at the regional level, number three - even Professor Preobrazhensky said that the devastation is not in the toilets, but in the heads, blame your own passivity, in such a critical time, contemplation is inappropriate and the thesis "my hut on the edge" turns out to be extremely harmful.

    At least the "What to do" question has been disclosed, although not completely.
    To the question "Lev Nikolaevich, are you an intellectual?" L.N. Gumilyov replied: "God save me! The current intelligentsia is such a spiritual sect. What is characteristic: they know nothing, they do not know how, but they judge everything and absolutely do not accept dissent." I fully agree with him.
    And my hut is not off the edge, by no means, I ask you to believe, just in any situation you need to keep a sober head, but this does not exclude the possibility of sacrificing both your interests and your life.
    Thank you all for your comments, the treatment of our fighters in the hospital of St. Petersburg pleased, there would be more such news.
  28. siberalt
    siberalt 28 February 2014 13: 04
    0
    Goldmitro
    <<< The best option is Yu.-V. and Crimea together, as a single state, only then can we provide ourselves and not become parasites, >>>

    Better yet, become part of Russia as an administrative entity.
  29. Khan
    Khan 28 February 2014 13: 14
    +3
    Russia will invest not for the restoration of the Ukrainian state, but for the expansion of its territory to simply appear the Crimean Territory of the Russian Federation, this is quite normal and natural. And what the West and the USA think does not give a damn about increasing the territory is good. Any empire rising from its knees should grow territory and any leader of the empire is estimated by the descendants of what he made outstanding for the empire.
  30. valokordin
    valokordin 28 February 2014 14: 20
    +1
    We must be decisive to Russia and not give up any more positions, as the Americans do not give up their
  31. Vlad Kalyuzhny
    Vlad Kalyuzhny 28 February 2014 14: 48
    0
    The first stage of the Maidan is over. After a few months, the situation will manifest itself on the worse side, and then Ukraine itself will fall under someone else, and since it is independent, that is, it does not lie down, it will be quickly picked up in parts. So, why should Crimea lose time on another experiment. It is better to go to a brighter future with Russia. Tomorrow comes today.
  32. vlad.svargin
    vlad.svargin 28 February 2014 14: 51
    0
    Sevastopol started (well done !!!), Crimea supported. This is just the beginning, on the example of the Crimea and South V. will boycott the unlawful bodies of the coup. Over time, the rest of Ukraine will "wake up" and chase the "prostitutes in today's power" will establish their (real) ones following the example of Sevastopol and Semfiropol.
  33. Potin
    Potin 28 February 2014 14: 56
    0
    Power at all levels in Ukraine is mired in theft and corruption. Vsez has both bank accounts and real estate abroad. And this is a short leash. The mass of people (tospa) by itself, without a clear organization, can do nothing but destroy to the ground of course. And with this (on a leash) their balance holders will say yapping, they will yap, they will say silence, they will be silent. There is no other way, because all that has been brewed over the years in an instant can be lost. In Russia, the same thing. God forbid such a mess and ...
  34. siberalt
    siberalt 28 February 2014 14: 58
    0
    Everything goes to the fact that Crimea will be blocked by roadblocks, redraw the runway, hold a referendum on Russia's subsidies to secede from Ukraine and join Russia. Well, and who can prevent this? A precedent and an example will be created for other Ukrainian regions.
    1. Russ69
      Russ69 28 February 2014 16: 01
      +1
      Quote: siberalt
      A precedent and an example will be created for other Ukrainian regions.

      Donbass people's militia presented an ultimatum to the Donetsk City Council: resignation of the governor, non-recognition of the Rada and military cooperation with Sevastopol
      A group of people who are radically opposed to the new government, who call themselves the people's militia of Donbass, demanded that the city council not recognize the regional government, the Verkhovna Rada and the Cabinet of Ministers and take full responsibility, writes OstroV.
      During the session, the words of a certain commander of the Donbass people's militia Pavel Gubarev asked, but the deputies refused him.
      Then the People’s Deputy of Ukraine of the Party of Regions faction Mykola Levchenko spoke and asked to give a word to the activist from the people.
      “I have known him for a long time, he helped us in election campaigns,” the deputy said.
      During the speech, the commander said that seven thousand people are members of the Donbass militia. With these words, he read out the ultimatum of power.
      "To recognize the Verkhovna Rada as a body that has lost its legitimacy, to recognize the Cabinet of Ministers as an illegitimate authority, to recognize the illegitimate power of the Donetsk Regional State Administration and Andrei Shishatsky. To declare the Donetsk City Council the only legitimate authority in the city, dismiss the head of the city UMVD, the city prosecutor and other state authorities. the city council to appoint new people in their place, liquidate the structures of the state treasury in the city, transfer all accounts of local councils to state banks. All state taxes and fees must go to the accounts of the local council "- this is how the meaning of the ultimatum can be formulated in a thesis.
      In addition, the commander of the militia demanded that the deputies of the city council recognize the people's power of Sevastopol as legitimate and establish political, economic and military cooperation with it.
      If the requirements are not fulfilled, the Donbass people's militia threatens to recognize the Donetsk city council and all its deputies illegitimate and is ready to take adequate measures to delegitimize the city council, as well as each deputy individually.
      Deputies perceived the performance-ultimatum of Gubarev negatively, they drowned him with shouts.
  35. saag
    saag 28 February 2014 14: 59
    0
    Quote: Vlad Kalyuzhny
    In a few months, the situation will manifest itself on the worse side.

    here you are most likely right, and "October 17th" will come, although not necessarily calendar - http://politobzor.net/show-14117-lidery-evrofashistov-pryamo-seychas-sobirayutsy
    a-perenesti-voynu-v-rossiyu.html
  36. Realist58
    Realist58 28 February 2014 15: 28
    +1
    Thug don't be afraid.
    Those who have taken power in the Crimea now understand, or they stand behind it, or end their days in a concentration camp.

    Don't worry about Russia. Russia can now do EVERYTHING IT IS NECESSARY to ensure the security of OUR state (including the temporarily lost territory of the Ukrainian SSR), only China has money, and he perfectly understands whose star-mattress ears stick out behind the backs of the SS Galicia gangs. And they do not need global CHAOS, they have their own problems with this.
    If both the USAA and the EUA would have the opportunity to give at least a lemon bucks, they would have already promised for 50 billion. And so, they even promised KOPEYKI))) And to listen to the promises of the small clerk of the EU is generally stupid))

    The trick is that our oligarchy also wrinkled the sphinxes, realizing that anti-oligarchic demands could follow claims for Russian rights.
    "Panda GET!" will replace - "Land for the peasants, factories for workers, thieves against the wall, POWER TO THE SOVIETS!"
  37. repytw
    repytw 28 February 2014 16: 37
    0
    Military personnel of the Russian Black Sea Fleet are blocking entries to the Headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy in Sevastopol (Crimea). This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.
    The Ministry of Defense states that the entry is blocked by two Ural military vehicles with 40 military personnel.

    In addition, the State Border Service of Ukraine said that 30 armed marines blocked the naval guard unit of the State Border Service in Sevastopol.

    “On the morning of February 28, an attempt was made to block the Sevastopol Maritime Guard Unit of the State Border Service of Ukraine. About 30 armed persons who did not introduce themselves arrived in the Sevastopol Marine Guard Unit in four vehicles, ”it was informed.

    The agency emphasizes that the border guards identified these persons as military personnel of the 810th Marine Brigade of the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Military Black Sea Fleet located in front of the checkpoint of the detachment and surrounded all the approaches, at the heights around the detachment there are snipers.

    Later, the head of a group of Russian servicemen, Alexander Tolmachev, arrived at the checkpoint, who stated that his subordinates were fulfilling the requirements of the so-called Crimean Security Council’s decree to prevent extremists from seizing weapons.

    The State Border Service notes that after negotiations with the detachment commander, Russian servicemen moved 25 meters from the checkpoint and are conducting surveillance.

    In addition, the Russian Black Sea Fleet “Ivanovets” missile boat stopped at a distance of 5 cables from the shore on the roads of Balaklava Bay, allegedly due to engine failure.

    Recall that on the morning of February 28, in the morning, a missile boat of the Russian Black Sea Fleet approached the outer raid of the Balaklava Bay near Sevastopol and blocked the exit to the Ukrainian border ships.

    The State Border Service also informs that on Friday, during the state border protection, a technical monitoring post monitored a flight from the Kerch direction at an altitude of up to 1 kilometer over 10 Russian military helicopters to Ukraine.

    The agency emphasizes that three helicopters were issued at the Kacha airfield, for which the corresponding application of the Russian Black Sea Fleet was filed, and other helicopters that crossed the state border violated the requirements of the relevant bilateral agreements.
  38. 111 soldier
    111 soldier 28 February 2014 16: 44
    +2
    Sevastopol will definitely stand !! Otherwise it can not be!!
  39. patriot123
    patriot123 28 February 2014 17: 14
    +2
    our people are there! and neher there to torment and oppress him more !! it's time to take the Crimea under your wing !!
  40. Gromila555
    28 February 2014 19: 39
    +1
    Hooray! We make our way a little! But still weak and provocateurs revived ...
    Take away Yanyka or don’t show yet, you can lose it, this scum is hated everywhere!
  41. razved
    razved 28 February 2014 19: 41
    0
    The author is, by and large, right. And if a "simple engineer" has come to this, then politicians are simply obliged to understand all this.