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Forgotten lessons of history: Stalin on Ukrainian nationalism

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“No, we are doing the right thing, so severely punishing the nationalists of all stripes and colors. They are the best helpers of our enemies and the worst enemies of their own nations. After all, the nationalists' cherished dream is to split the Soviet Union into separate “national” states, and then it will become easy prey for enemies. The peoples inhabiting the Soviet Union, for the most part, will be physically exterminated, the rest will turn into dumb and pathetic slaves of the conquerors.


It is not by chance that the despicable traitors of the Ukrainian people - the leaders of the Ukrainian nationalists, all these millers, konovalians, Bandera have already received the task of German intelligence to stir up among Ukrainians who are Russians, hate Russians and seek separation of Ukraine from the Soviet Union. The same old song of ancient times since the period of the Roman Empire: divide and conquer.

Especially succeeded in inciting national hatred and incitement of one people against other Englishmen. Thanks to such tactics, bribing the miserable and corrupt leaders of various nations, capitalist island England - the first factory of the world, negligible in size, managed to seize vast territories, enslave and rob many nations of the world, create a “Great” British Empire, in which, boastfully say the British, the sun never sets.

With us, this number, while we are alive, will not work. So it’s in vain that the Hitler fools call the Soviet Union a “house of cards”, which allegedly collapses during the first serious test, is counting on the fragility of the friendship of the peoples inhabiting our country today, hoping to make them quarrel with each other. In the event of a German attack on the Soviet Union, people of different nationalities who inhabit our country will defend it, sparing no life as their beloved homeland.

However, nationalists should not be underestimated. If allowed to act with impunity, they will bring a lot of trouble. That is why they should be kept in the iron rein, not to let them undermine the unity of the Soviet Union. ”

IV Stalin - Complete Works. Volume 15, "Conversation with A.S. Yakovlev 26 March 1941 of the Year ", C. 17
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  1. makst83
    makst83 28 February 2014 08: 09
    +67
    The Soviet Union, even under Untermensch Gorbachev, was 100% resistant and not destroyed by external aggression, but unfortunately was not resistant to internal destruction!
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 28 February 2014 09: 36
      +74
      It’s bad when the state is kept at the liberty of one person, when something happens to him, the whole state shakes to the ground, so it should not be.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 28 February 2014 10: 04
        +42
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        It’s bad when the state keeps on the will of one person,

        Oddly enough, but under the autocracy there was no such problem. According to statistics, there were fewer bad kings in Russia (in relation to their own country) than in a democracy with bad presidents.
        Plato's work "The State", in Book 8, contains, perhaps, the most eloquent arguments demonstrating the failure of democracy. In short, this form of government leads, according to Plato, to the ignorance of written and unwritten laws by citizens. People become selfish consumers, a general, pronounced alienation reigns in society. The result is slavery in its highest manifestations. The arbitrariness of the crowd is replaced by the arbitrariness of a single person, transforming democracy into tyranny, i.e. its dialectical opposite.
        And if we understand the goals of the "true" champion of world democracy, then one cannot but agree with some political scientists who assert that our government is playing by someone else's, imposed rules and a marked deck. Even assuming their good intentions. We will never win this way. Thinking and goals need to be changed starting from kindergarten. The same Dales plan, but exactly the opposite. History textbooks need ideals, like Gagarin and Maresyev, the same thing should be on TV, so who will do it? Now the mass media educate our children in the spirit of house 2 and the island, where personal well-being and benefit is the main thing. And excuse me, I do not believe that the state, partly the owner of many entertainment channels, does not know about the role of TV in shaping the personality of adolescents. With the further continuation of this policy, we will grab the steeper Ukraine.
        Returning to autocracy, I believe that Lukashenko would be an ideal candidate for the founder of the dynasty of the tsars of All Russia. My opinion. hi
        1. stroporez
          stroporez 28 February 2014 10: 26
          +25
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Thinking and goals need to be changed, starting from kindergarten
          exactly!! I think that this is upbringing from kindergarten, there is the main task of the correct government. Cho to go far, worked in a children's rehabilitation center. Children "from the teeth" know who Captain America is, Batman, Spiderman ........ .and almost no one knows such names as Kotigoroshek, Kozhemyaka, Vygorny ...... we initially prepare children "for them" .... and this is sad ..........
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 28 February 2014 10: 42
            +29
            Quote: stroporez
            I think that this is education from kindergarten, there is the main task of the right government

            10 years ago I met with Shchetinin (he has a school in Tecos, near Gelendzhik) Children are smart! You speak with them as equals. But seeing Shchetinin is not a decree and not an example for our Ministry of Science and Science, they are closer to the American path in spirit and purpose. hi
            1. stroporez
              stroporez 28 February 2014 10: 48
              +6
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Shchetinin
              --- pleasing, but ------ exception. it is possible to say singular. and I'm pretty sure ---------- they will crush him .........
              1. tundra
                tundra 28 February 2014 13: 45
                +5
                Do not go to the grandmother. Otherwise, loafers and lovers of gay Westerners, but rather loafers from the minobra will be expelled.
          2. nikcris
            nikcris 28 February 2014 13: 25
            +7
            My daughter, LIVING IN KAZAKHSTAN, at five years old rushed at my grandfather (my father) for criticizing EBN - don’t hesitate! EBN is our president! Here you have a kindergarten. Children absorb from the side much more actively than from the family.
            1. Simon
              Simon 28 February 2014 15: 58
              +7
              President, the president is different. One betrays his people and state, the other drunk dances, sings and clowns the whole world, that the whole earth trembles with laughter, disgracing our people, and the third pulls the state out of the pit and makes it strong.
            2. Dauke
              Dauke 1 March 2014 09: 11
              0
              we would have these "BANDYerovtsev", there would not be this EBNa ...
        2. valokordin
          valokordin 28 February 2014 11: 03
          +6
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Returning to autocracy, I believe that Lukashenko would be an ideal candidate for the founder of the dynasty of the tsars of All Russia. My opinion

          I agree with the opinion of the head of state, but not with the monarch, since this is not possible — there is no nobility, and a constitutional monarchy with a weak ruler = it's like a toy.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 28 February 2014 11: 39
            +4
            Quote: valokordin
            constitutional monarchy under a weak ruler = it's like a toy

            Everything is fixable. The king distributes the nobility. As a rule to associates.
            (A subtle allusion to our "king" and his "associates".) laughing
            But the constitutional monarchy is also very viable. Norway as an example. and indeed countries with monarchies in the first lines in the list of living standards. hi
            1. nikcris
              nikcris 28 February 2014 13: 28
              -3
              He (the king) does not give out. Only Countess and other servants. Tipo Pope Lenin.
            2. smile
              smile 28 February 2014 15: 49
              +1
              Ingvar 72
              Well, a king will come, like a second dumpling ... and what will you do? The Great October Socialist Revolution? And why the heck then goat button accordion? Or will you re-elect with a snuffbox on the head to produce, and then look for an heir among his relatives or invite a monarch from the outside to the kingdom?
              By the way, are you sure that if you appoint Lukashenko as king, you will find a worthy successor among his children? Or just the eldest will fasten the crown and everything will be fine? And if he will give the will to the youngest as a will, he previously took the child to all official meetings, remember? :))) And who and who will appoint the regent?
              What, then, the issue of choosing a monarch between children will be decided by the bayonets of the guard or individual conspirators with the help of an officer scarf? :)))
              Admittedly, calls to return to the monarchy raise doubts about whether the monarchists understand what they say? Able to assess the consequences? Are they adequate at all? :))) Forgive me, please ...
              By the way, I understand that you indicated the figure of Lukashenko as a populist measure ... :))) But you are sure. what if the monarch begins to plant members of his family (and how else, he’s the monarch, you think), then everyone in Russia will like it? Now Moscow is barking with St. Petersburg ... but imagine what will happen when the whole political elite of a huge country is formed in Belarus? :)))
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 28 February 2014 16: 18
                +1
                Quote: smile
                Well, a king will come, like a second dumpling ... and what will you do? By the way, are you sure that if you appoint Lukashenko as king, you will find a worthy successor among his children?

                Hello Vladimir. hi There is always a risk, but with this electoral system, the risk that unscrupulous people will come to power is much higher. I repeat once again, a person at the helm will take care of his own, family boat, and not rented as a result of the election.
                Quote: smile
                Able to assess the consequences? Are they adequate at all? :))) Forgive me, please ...
                This is a utopia, as a result of the implementation of which there will certainly be mistakes and dissatisfied, but nevertheless there would be much more advantages.
                Quote: smile
                By the way, I understand that you indicated the figure of Lukashenko as a populist measure ..

                You’re wrong, Vladimir, sincerely called you not to find another candidate on this continent. We need a strong man, like Stalin, Chavez, Castro. Only such a person has the right to establish a dynasty. Lukashenko is the best suited for this role.
                You probably noticed that my thoughts intersect with the book "Project Russia"? My opinion is that the book was written under the GDPR, my thoughts are correct, but judging by his policy, the candidate is not the same. hi
                1. shatu
                  shatu 28 February 2014 16: 39
                  +5
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  There is always a risk, but with this electoral system, the risk that unscrupulous people will come to power is much higher

                  People's hobbies for the monarchy are understandable, people expect that the "ruler" is vitally interested in the well-being of his country. But where is the guarantee that an intelligent ruler will have the same son and will not drink away all the achievements of his parents?

                  Or maybe you need to change the system? With the current development of IT, options are quite possible, as an example:
                  if you want to become an official or a state manager - you must pass an exam, at least for knowledge of Russian history and management science (the list is not complete, of course). For officials below the gubernatorial level, broadcast their bleating at the regional level, from the governor and above to the whole country. And on the basis of this, to evaluate, and not a scribble, which is called the election program and which they did not even read.

                  And in general, whether or not to allow such a person to rule the country, is decided on the basis of public scores, roughly speaking, the children study abroad (without having received education in Russia), do not serve in the army - went for it!

                  For Stalin, one son died in concentration camps (or maybe in battles, but about a concentration camp - a fascist bike), the second was a combat pilot, and the current ghouls in Cambridge and Harvard did not see the army, Russian schools and universities.

                  With your permission, I will refer to my comment on social points http://topwar.ru/40335-vremya-dlya-patrioticheskogo-vospitaniya.html#comment-id-
                  2005786
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                  1. SkiF_RnD
                    SkiF_RnD 28 February 2014 20: 01
                    0
                    With the current development of IT, options are quite possible, as an example:
                    if you want to become an official or a state manager - you must pass an exam, at least for knowledge of Russian history and management science (the list is not complete, of course). For officials below the gubernatorial level, broadcast their bleating at the regional level, from the governor and above to the whole country. And on the basis of this, to evaluate, and not a scribble, which is called the election program and which they did not even read.


                    Here is a sound idea. It is necessary that people who are knowledgeable in such a matter prepare a legislative base in this direction. So that when you have to implement such a principle, a well-developed project was at hand. Otherwise, these are just words, unfortunately.
                2. smile
                  smile 28 February 2014 18: 00
                  0
                  Ingvar 72
                  Well, if you yourself think that the monarchy is a utopia, then there are no questions and cannot be. I love to dream too. :)))
                  I do not agree with your estimate of GDP, well, God bless him, I don’t want to argue.
                  1. SkiF_RnD
                    SkiF_RnD 28 February 2014 20: 02
                    +2
                    Well, if you yourself think that the monarchy is a utopia, then there are no questions and cannot be.

                    Utopia from utopias is a democracy, don't you think so?
                3. sanitarlesa
                  sanitarlesa 28 February 2014 22: 09
                  +1
                  Which king? !!! are you out of your mind ?? the whole path of mankind has proved that this path is destructive
          2. Basarev
            Basarev 28 February 2014 15: 33
            +2
            That is why the king must be strong! Nicholas I is one of the best examples.
            1. Vladimir73
              Vladimir73 4 March 2014 19: 59
              0
              And Nicholas II is the second example ...
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        4. Flooding
          Flooding 28 February 2014 11: 16
          +3
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Returning to autocracy, I believe that Lukashenko would be an ideal candidate for the founder of the dynasty of the tsars of All Russia.

          There were Rurikovich, there were Romanovs. Is it time for the Alexandrovich?
        5. Dart2027
          Dart2027 28 February 2014 11: 57
          +8
          Autocracy is not only a king, but also an idea. It was not by chance that many years of persecution were carried out in order to discredit the government as such. As already written after the revolution, one of the main culprits of the death of RI Milyukov:

          “You know that we made a firm decision to use the war to carry out a coup soon after the start of this war. Note also that we could not wait any longer, because we knew that at the end of April or the beginning of May our army had to go on the offensive, the results which would immediately completely stop all hints of discontent and cause an explosion of patriotism and jubilation in the country.
          You understand now why at the last minute I hesitated to agree to a coup, you also understand what my inner state should be like at the moment. History will curse our leaders, the so-called proletarians, but curse us, who caused the storm.
          What to do now, you ask ...
          I do not know. That is, inside we both know that the salvation of Russia in returning to the monarchy, we know that all the events of the last two months have clearly proved that the people were not able to perceive freedom, that the mass of the population, not participating in rallies and congresses, was monarchically configured, that many many campaigning for the republic do this out of fear.
          All this is clear, but we simply cannot admit it. "

          Even after the death of the Romanovs, the people remained thoroughly monarchical and perceived Stalin precisely as the tsar.
          And democracy is just a disguised oligarchy when a clown is chosen, and he does what they say. If he tries to rock the boat, then everyone knows the fate of the Kennedy brothers.
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 28 February 2014 15: 39
            +1
            I heard a story about Russia in the First World War. So: despite the insidious harassment of Russia's participation in the war, the situation was not as deplorable as they wrote. Of course, the supply was extremely weak and meager, but still this is a world war and therefore such a situation another thing is important - the Germans and the henchmen of the German Empire were stuck in the west of Ukraine and Belarus, unable to move further, and therefore it was quite possible to drive the Germans out of the occupied areas with a few powerful blows - Brusilov turned a very similar trick.
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 28 February 2014 15: 47
              0
              So about that. The entire top of the ministries and generals, together with the State Duma, sought to prevent victory, because it would interfere with their plans.
              1. Basarev
                Basarev 28 February 2014 20: 26
                0
                In fact, in the event of a completely possible victory (I allow myself to alternatively tell), the authority of the tsar personally soars to truly sky-high heights. Winning Russia shakes the Germans out of enormous reparations. Foreign and domestic investments go to the victorious empire with a golden river. the economy is rapidly catching up with the strongest economies in the world. And no mutiny-revolutions ...
        6. inkass_98
          inkass_98 28 February 2014 12: 23
          +5
          Whatever one may say, the heir to the throne from childhood was brought up by a statesman (the position of Nicholas II according to the population census: the owner of the Russian Land), unlike all kinds of temporary workers, the tsar does not need to rob his own economy, leading it to decline. The elected "people" are casual people, with a completely unpredictable education (or generally no one), who love and know how to broadcast from the stands at rallies. Often, their main goal is to grab (with impunity if possible) and fuck off.
          1. Kovlad
            Kovlad 28 February 2014 20: 00
            0
            absolutely agree!
        7. AlexxxNik
          AlexxxNik 28 February 2014 12: 34
          +5
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Oddly enough, under the autocracy there was no such problem

          and what’s strange, there a man from childhood was prepared for life (ideally), and democracy is imposed on the whole world for this purpose, that controlled parsley is put for several years, supposedly elected by the people
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 28 February 2014 12: 48
            +10
            for Russia autocracy the only successful form of government Stalin was essentially a Monarch, the only problem was that there was no receiver
            1. Basarev
              Basarev 28 February 2014 15: 42
              +2
              There was a successor. I don’t remember exactly, but it seems like they were going to make Beria a successor. But Khrushchev happened and the irreparable began.
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 28 February 2014 15: 48
                +1
                Initially, Kirov - and he was killed.
                Then Beria - and he was killed.
        8. Evgeniy-111
          Evgeniy-111 28 February 2014 12: 38
          0
          And who should be considered Stalin - the king or the president?
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 28 February 2014 12: 48
            +8
            Quote: Evgeniy-111
            And who should be considered Stalin - the king or the president?

            definitely Monarch
          2. radio operator
            radio operator 28 February 2014 14: 01
            +2
            Quote: Evgeniy-111
            And who should be considered Stalin - the king or the president?

            He positioned himself as a red monarch. In fact, it was so, the autocrat is a king.
          3. Simon
            Simon 28 February 2014 16: 01
            +1
            Chairman of the Politburo. What Stalin was.
            1. zeleznijdorojnik
              zeleznijdorojnik 28 February 2014 17: 10
              +1
              Secretary of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars, and later Council of Ministers, Supreme Commander-in-Chief.
        9. vyatom
          vyatom 28 February 2014 14: 12
          0
          Kings were raised from childhood to rule the country. They knew several languages ​​and served in certain regiments or naval crews. Moreover, for example, the Romanovs are an indisputable dynasty. And the seizures of power as in third world countries, where a dictator seated himself on the ruler’s chair for many years, lead to the degradation of the country and society.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 28 February 2014 14: 42
            +5
            Quote: vyatom
            The Romanovs are an indisputable dynasty.

            here you can argue
            1. Basarev
              Basarev 28 February 2014 15: 46
              +4
              And in fact - the Rurikovichs - both the first and the last - sacredly watched over the freedom of the peasantry. In all Sudebniks of Rurikovich, a separate article confirms the "St. George's Rule." But the Romanovs, relying not on the people, but on an extremely small stratum of nobility, to please these same nobles began to enslave the peasants, but the peasants did not like it at all.
        10. Vitlek
          Vitlek 28 February 2014 15: 58
          +1
          + I agree with you. I want to add that under the autocracy they did not divide according to nationality, there was the concept of religion, if we recall this now, then we are Ukrainians (at least Eastern) and Belarusians are one people
        11. Foxmara
          Foxmara 1 March 2014 17: 50
          +2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Oddly enough, but under the autocracy there was no such problem. According to statistics, there were fewer bad kings in Russia (in relation to their own country) than in a democracy with bad presidents.

          democracy in itself generates bad rulers and corruption. The change of power does not allow working professionally and with interest.
      2. My address
        My address 28 February 2014 10: 10
        +20
        Alexey! hi You have touched a very painful topic.
        Here I do not like much in Putin’s domestic policy. But, God forbid, what will happen to him? Who will temporarily perform duties? Do not bring, my God, mityunya?
        1. jjj
          jjj 28 February 2014 11: 17
          +6
          Quote: My address
          I don’t like much about Putin’s internal politics. But, God forbid, what will happen to him? Who will be acting temporarily?

          But the Americans are quite capable of bringing down the presidential board somewhere on the World Ocean. And the world will still applaud them that "democracy has won." And Russia will not start a war in response. This is what makes the inner chill
          1. SkiF_RnD
            SkiF_RnD 28 February 2014 20: 07
            +1
            shoot down the presidential board, somewhere on the oceans. And the world will still applaud them that "democracy has won." And Russia will not start a war in response.


            Won't start? I would not be so sure ...
        2. inkass_98
          inkass_98 28 February 2014 12: 27
          +1
          Yes, the main sadness is that there are no worthy successors. Iproso bright personalities a bit, the triumph of dullness. Sergei Ivanov does not climb people, Lavrov is also not a young pioneer by age, and this is not his thing, Dimsik is not an argument at all. The opposition is just as amorphous.
        3. novobranets
          novobranets 28 February 2014 19: 45
          +1
          From the mitun, the president, like, excuse me, from go.na bullet.
      3. Associate Professor
        Associate Professor 28 February 2014 10: 57
        +9
        Quote: The same LYOKHA
        It’s bad when the state keeps on the will of one person

        And there is. And Putin understands this well.
      4. 222222
        222222 28 February 2014 11: 42
        +3
        Yesterday on the TV program Solovyov Oleg Tsarev on this occasion ("when the state shakes"):
        1. "If the ruler surrendered"
        2. "If the security forces got cold feet"
        3. "foreign invasion"
        In principle, yesterday's program was calm. even Zhirinovsky did not rampage. All participants confirmed the integrity of Ukraine. Nobody stopped at the role of oligarchs in the events in Ukraine and the main parties. Obviously taboo. Nilov's interesting thought "about holding the Yalta Conference 2.0 at the highest level ...
      5. vladimirZ
        vladimirZ 28 February 2014 12: 03
        +10
        The same LEKHA (1)
        It’s bad when the state is kept at the liberty of one person, when something happens to him, the whole state shakes to the ground, so it should not be.


        This pattern "when the state is kept at the will of one person" was calculated by the Americans in the system of government of the USSR.
        And using this weakness, they began purposefully with the help of their agents of influence to move the traitor Gorbachev into the leadership of the CPSU, with the goal of the internal destruction of the state.
        In today's Russia, this pattern has remained: the principle of "no alternative" power reliance on one Leader, the principle of over-concentration of power in the hands of a ruling Leader who has truly monarchical power, using which you can also relatively simply, without military intervention, destroy our current state.
        And if any "chosen" monarch is placed at the head of Russia, this pattern will acquire a chronically painful character, which will lead Russia into a state of a small, externally controlled banana state about the size of the Moscow Kremlin.
      6. Corsair5912
        Corsair5912 28 February 2014 20: 49
        0
        Quote: The same Lech
        It’s bad when the state is kept at the liberty of one person, when something happens to him, the whole state shakes to the ground, so it should not be.

        Great sovereigns are the property of the people; they are not born every century, but their influence on the path of mankind is colossal.
      7. Siberian German
        Siberian German 1 March 2014 04: 10
        0
        I agree - but the question is that a person with an iron will often does not trust his associates
    2. Deniska999
      Deniska999 28 February 2014 09: 58
      +15
      Stalin verbs the truth.
      1. GrayL
        GrayL 28 February 2014 10: 47
        +12
        He was just an intelligent man, and not how he is painted ... like double standards everywhere: Grozny and Stalin, such as cozl, and Peter 1 is great ... it's like right in Ukraine now, on the Maidan like activists , and in the Crimea it’s bld ... sad ... (There are no complaints against Peter, don’t think what)
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    4. GrayL
      GrayL 28 February 2014 10: 43
      +8
      They especially succeeded in inciting ethnic hatred and setting some peoples against other British. Thanks to such tactics, bribing the pathetic and corrupt leaders of different nations - the answer in the article is bribing the pathetic and corrupt leaders of different peoples
      1. valokordin
        valokordin 28 February 2014 11: 06
        +7
        Quote: GrayL
        They especially succeeded in inciting ethnic hatred and setting some peoples against other British. Thanks to such tactics, bribing the pathetic and corrupt leaders of different nations - the answer in the article is bribing the pathetic and corrupt leaders of different peoples


        So Grobacheva Thatcher recruited back in 1974
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    5. Hs487
      Hs487 28 February 2014 10: 50
      +13
      Quote: makst83
      The Soviet Union, even under Untermensch Gorbachev, was 100% resistant and not destroyed by external aggression, but unfortunately was not resistant to internal destruction!

      It was necessary in 1922 to build the USSR in the way that Stalin proposed to do, then there would have been fewer internal squabbles on national soil at times or would not have existed.
    6. jjj
      jjj 28 February 2014 11: 13
      +7
      Golden Stalinist words. They should be our guide to action.
    7. 120352
      120352 28 February 2014 12: 20
      +1
      But the drunk Yeltsin with his Sonderkommand broke everything.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 28 February 2014 15: 54
        -1
        The Sonderkommand and the Einsatzgrupp are not synonyms! The Sonderkommand, in fact, was the Wehrmacht special forces, carrying out the most difficult and dangerous tasks. And the Einsatzgruppes simply killed and robbed the temporarily occupied territories. This is not the same thing, and these different concepts should not be confused.
    8. avdkrd
      avdkrd 1 March 2014 14: 41
      0
      Quote: makst83
      under Untermensch Gorbachev

      Untermensch sounds somewhat incongruous in relation to Gorbachev. Untermensch is from the lexicon of Hitler's Nazism. For Gorbachev, the epithets are more suitable - Judas and the traitor. He is just a series of "miserable corrupt leaders of the peoples" about whom Stalin spoke. I'm waiting for him to die. I want to spit on his grave and I will punish the children to do the same.
  2. Ivan Petrovich
    Ivan Petrovich 28 February 2014 09: 29
    +34
    yes, wise was a steel leader ... not like the current political impotent
    1. ziqzaq
      ziqzaq 28 February 2014 09: 45
      +22
      Quote: Ivan Petrovich
      yes, wise was a steel leader ... not like the current political impotent

      STALIN - a true Russian patriot !!!
      1. major071
        major071 28 February 2014 10: 00
        +45
        History has a cyclical structure, it will still return:
        1. zeleznijdorojnik
          zeleznijdorojnik 28 February 2014 17: 06
          +1
          Hurry, really.
        2. michelle
          michelle 3 March 2014 00: 10
          +2
          The only head of state who left behind two personal suits and worn boots out of personal property ...
      2. Muadipus
        Muadipus 28 February 2014 10: 08
        +16
        STALIN - a true Russian patriot !!!

        I would slightly paraphrase Stalin - a truly Russian Georgian! For Russian - this already implies - a patriot. others are not worthy to call themselves Russian.
        1. Uhe
          Uhe 28 February 2014 11: 25
          +14
          He called himself Russian, not Georgian. Russian communist. Russian is the one who thinks in Russian, and Stalin certainly thought in Russian.
        2. Uhe
          Uhe 28 February 2014 11: 25
          +4
          He called himself Russian, not Georgian. Russian communist. Russian is the one who thinks in Russian, and Stalin certainly thought in Russian.
          1. radio operator
            radio operator 28 February 2014 14: 29
            -4
            Quote: Uhe
            He called himself Russian, not Georgian. Russian communist. Russian is the one who thinks in Russian, and Stalin certainly thought in Russian.

            Great Russian sentiments of Stalin were especially evident during the war and
            reached the highest register in his toast speech delivered by him on
            Reception-banquet in honor of the victory over Germany in 1945 year. Here is a part of it
            toast given in the book of aircraft designer A. Yakovlev:

            "Comrades, let me raise one more last toast. I would like
            raise a toast to the health of our Soviet people and, above all, the Russian
            of the people (present with enthusiastic applause and shouts of "Hurray"
            met these words).
            I drink, first of all, for the health of the Russian people because he
            is the most outstanding nation of all the nations that make up
            Soviet Union. I raise a toast to the health of the Russian people because he
            in this war earned general recognition as the leading force of the Soviet
            Union, among all the peoples of our country. I raise a toast to Russian health
            people, not only because he is the leading people, but also because he
            has a clear mind, steadfast character and patience. "


            Stalin said that the governing force of the Soviet Union is not
            the proletariat of the USSR, as declared by the October Revolution, and
            "Russian people" than openly switched from the position of Marxism to the side
            Great-power interests of Russian bureaucrats. All the other rehashings of Stalin
            in his speech about the special merits of the Russian people additionally
            emphasize the Stalinist great-power chauvinism, to which he drew attention
            even Lenin in his letter "on autonomization."
            With the light hand of Stalin in all official documents, materials,
            dictionaries, encyclopedias, textbooks recorded this assessment of excellence
            Russian people over other peoples of the Soviet Union.
            1. Revolver
              Revolver 28 February 2014 23: 41
              +4
              Somewhere in the late 1920s you would have been sent for a portrait-caricature to rest (all-inclusive) on Solovki for a couple of years. Starting from the 1930s, and after the accession of Khrushchev, at least 10 years in the Gulag, and even to the wall, especially between 1941 and 1945. Yes, and under Khrushchev and his followers it wouldn’t have seemed enough, and you would have had them immediately for anti-Soviet rule, and for the praise of the cult (both personality and religious), so that for a better job than a janitor, a caretaker, or at best a plumber, one would not have to count, and then no less than 101 km from Moscow and Leningrad. During the restructuring, it probably would have failed.
              And in general, have respect for Stalin, at least for what he did as the Supreme Commander.
  3. saag
    saag 28 February 2014 09: 34
    +15
    nationalism as an idea is a dead end, it’s a jam in one’s own juice, for pride it’s certainly nice, but in general there are few dividends from it
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 28 February 2014 09: 39
      +9
      But nationalists can be tempted for their own purposes as you like-declared someone an enemy of the nation and Natsik with bats and chains are already flying to destroy both the enemy and a respectable citizen (who accidentally turned out to be nearby) -this is used by all sorts of bastards, especially the Anglo-Saxons.
    2. Muadipus
      Muadipus 28 February 2014 10: 15
      +18
      Quote: saag
      nationalism as an idea is a dead end, it’s a jam in one’s own juice, for pride it’s certainly nice, but in general there are few dividends from it

      In general, I support you. BUT there are other examples. For example, these guys think differently:
      1. Uhe
        Uhe 28 February 2014 11: 26
        +11
        These guys have everything written on their ... uh ... faces;). In general, Zionism is a form of fascism.
        1. nikcris
          nikcris 28 February 2014 13: 38
          +3
          Nail two portraits side by side - Sverdlov and Trotsky. They are without pace, but the expression on the face is the same.
        2. shasherin_pavel
          shasherin_pavel 4 March 2014 20: 07
          0
          Especially the right one in the photo, he’ll put anyone on his knees - he has trashed Zionism! Yes, not one of them is heavier than his own member, in life, he has not pulled out of his pants. On Saturday, their garden with barbed wire and they do not even lift a finger, because on Saturday you can’t work.
  4. Egoza
    Egoza 28 February 2014 09: 38
    +39
    That's because I.V. Stalin knew how to "keep in an iron rein" and after death he was afraid and hated! And it's time to remember his lessons !!!!
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 28 February 2014 10: 05
      +19
      Elena, who is this communist, do not tell me?
      1. valokordin
        valokordin 28 February 2014 11: 15
        +9
        I look at the sacrifice of this category of people, how they were blamed and shot down, simply destroyed. This has always been done by the Nazis, Bandera and the Democrats. So Yeltsin, Sobchak and doggies, priests, boerboels, shahrai, chubais. the gadars are bad guys, bears, the present writer is no better. It’s like the first Christians who were crucified, and they all dreamed about the future, brought good to human souls.
        1. Evgeniy-111
          Evgeniy-111 28 February 2014 13: 14
          +1
          Especially good at carrying good Yarosh!
        2. Basarev
          Basarev 28 February 2014 16: 00
          +2
          It's time to release barburofelis on all these boerboels!
          1. Orang
            Orang 28 February 2014 18: 53
            -1
            Quote: Basarev
            It's time to release barburofelis on all these boerboels!

            Megistoterium
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      3. Aleksys2
        Aleksys2 28 February 2014 12: 26
        +5
        Quote: bomg.77
        who is this communist, do not tell me?

        "Dear comrades! I, Vasilko Rostislav Stepanovich, 1st secretary of the Lviv city committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine, in Kiev, was beaten by banderlog at the very least. They are persecuting my mother, threatening with reprisals for my children. They threaten to kill me and my common-law wife. Help me find political asylum in another country. On February 22.02.14, 11, from 00:23 to 00:2, Maidanites tortured me in Mariinsky Park, drove needles under my nails, beat me with sticks, fists, punched my right lung, broke three ribs, a nasal septum, a facial cyst. They gutted my skull. Got a concussion of XNUMX degrees All blue. Tomorrow they will have a puncture of the spinal cord. The trouble is black! They cleaned everything, took away documents, money, a gold chain with a cross, "blogger ColonelCassad published a message from the communist.
        After the text of the appeal, he appeals to subscribers with a request to verify the authenticity of the information.
        “One of my acquaintances, Lviv communists, is now in the hospital with a torn skull, broken kidneys, torn nails, a punctured right lung, three broken ribs and a nasal septum. They beat him for several hours in a row in one of the most beautiful city parks, after which they carefully informed him a common-law wife, that the same is in store for her. How to get it out of there, where and how to transport it - you will understand, "adds one of the leaders of the Russian Left Front, Daria Mitina.
        Further in the comments, she notes that she discussed the situation with the Communists from the State Duma of the Russian Federation - the main question is how to help others who find themselves in the same situation.
        "They are already working on it, and a whole list of others - unfortunately, he is not alone in such a situation. Specifically for Rostislav, there will be no problems with his transportation and arrangement, but the main problem now is how to leave the hospital, he is not mobile himself, and you cannot approach the hospital, there is a triple cordon of orcs, "Mitina writes.
        Note that the Communist Party of Ukraine is really going through hard times. At the beginning of the week, the media published information about pogroms in the regional committees of the Communist Party of Ukraine throughout Ukraine.
        At the same time, a discussion of the beating of Vasilko is going on at the forum of the Ukrainian Pravda publication. According to the "accusers", the modest Lviv politician was that sinister mysterious sniper who "shot the peaceful Maidan."

        source http://www.nakanune.ru/news/2014/2/26/22342841
        1. bomg.77
          bomg.77 28 February 2014 12: 34
          +7
          I’m looking, and I’ll hold my teeth together! And the woman is there .. just tear apart am
        2. shatu
          shatu 28 February 2014 12: 36
          +3
          At the same time, a discussion of the beating of Vasilko is going on at the forum of the Ukrainian Pravda publication. According to the "accusers", the modest Lviv politician was that sinister mysterious sniper who "shot the peaceful Maidan."

          Quote from the article here.

          That is, by doing so, they confirm that the Berkut did not shoot?
          What creatures are these Bandera, real fascists.

          It’s good that there is a photo. Pinched the creatures will find you.

          And this pi ... yes, in the so-called Ukrainian government now it seems?
      4. Simon
        Simon 28 February 2014 16: 09
        0
        For the reader these bastards for it. A fascist, he is a fascist. am
  5. deman73
    deman73 28 February 2014 09: 38
    +13
    Great words - Great Leader !!!
  6. Egoza
    Egoza 28 February 2014 09: 39
    +13
    That's because I.V. Stalin knew how to "keep him in an iron bridle" and after death they are afraid and hated! And it's time to remember his lessons !!!!
  7. Sergg
    Sergg 28 February 2014 09: 44
    +5
    It is no coincidence that the despicable traitors of the Ukrainian people - the leaders of Ukrainian nationalists, all these millers, Konovalets, Bandera have already received a task from the German intelligence to incite among the Ukrainians, who are the same Russians, hatred of the Russians


    The customer has changed, now the bloody fascist state of the USA, but the traitors are the same despicable forces as before.
    1. Andrey78
      Andrey78 28 February 2014 12: 16
      0
      It was said that "The Englishmen were especially successful in inciting ethnic hatred and inciting some peoples against others."
  8. Million
    Million 28 February 2014 09: 44
    +16
    Stalin would quickly resolve the issue now ..
    1. alexng
      alexng 28 February 2014 14: 29
      +2
      Under him, the Union would not have collapsed at all.

      A demonstration in the center of Kiev, under the slogan "A world without makeup", which consisted of unadorned women, scared away the gay pride parade, the Berkut special unit and the Sabbath of Satanists ....
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  9. Alexandr 2
    Alexandr 2 28 February 2014 09: 46
    +11
    Wise words of Stalin "After all, the cherished dream of nationalists is to split the Soviet Union into separate" national "states, and then it will become an easy prey for enemies. The peoples inhabiting the Soviet Union, in their majority, will be physically exterminated, the rest will turn into wordless and miserable slaves conquerors. " It is necessary to speak such wise thoughts from the TV screen.
  10. Boris55
    Boris55 28 February 2014 09: 51
    +8
    Only together we are power.
    Stalin failed to outplay Lenin. He tailored the USSR by nationality, they gave them self-determination, and so it came to us. Now, modern Russia has in its composition 21 republic and many more entities on the way to this ...

    There are many quite legal organizations that destroy Russia from the sly - such as assistance to small peoples, for the identity of peoples and their culture, etc. who do not allow them to join the monolith of Russian civilization, to become Russians, do not allow them to forget that they are not like everyone else ... but how they "mature" - they will become republics, and then independent ...

    I offer Lenin's work "The right of nations to self-determination"be recognized as extremist literature.
    1. Burmistr
      Burmistr 28 February 2014 10: 14
      +2
      Or rather, did not have time.
    2. wax
      wax 28 February 2014 13: 28
      +1
      I propose to recognize Lenin's work "The Right of Nations to Self-Determination" as extremist literature.
      First, Stalin never opposed himself to Lenin and considered him his teacher. Stalin strengthened the USSR, and did not turn it into an empire consisting of provinces, as our "favorite" Zhirinovsky blurs.
      Secondly, there are no truths at all times, and especially in specific politics.
      Thirdly, what are you going to do with the Crimea - to give it to Bandera? How do you feel about the self-determination of Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Transnistria? Enlighten, non-extremist.
  11. HollyGremlin
    HollyGremlin 28 February 2014 09: 53
    +4
    To be honest, it coincides with the current situation, that I can’t even believe that this is a true quote.
    1. bomg.77
      bomg.77 28 February 2014 10: 13
      +8
      Quote: HollyGremlin
      To be honest, it coincides with the current situation, that I can’t even believe that this is a true quote.
      Stalin, there are a lot of direct, prophetic utterances! This is from a good understanding of the essence of the processes taking place in the world and worldly experience. We forgot it for 6 for years, and during that time they buried the country (((
  12. shelva
    shelva 28 February 2014 09: 54
    +5
    An unsurpassed expert in the national question. Today, the absence of the likes of Stalin has been replaced by talkers-shitcrats and we are reaping the fruits of their "activity."
  13. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 28 February 2014 09: 57
    +9
    Well, I'm not so wise and there is nothing to add.
  14. Corsair5912
    Corsair5912 28 February 2014 09: 59
    +9
    Liberases do not recognize Marxism, the existence of social classes, the antagonism between classes and the divergence of interests between exploiters and workers.
    It is more convenient for operators to rob and deceive people separated by national borders, playing on their national egoism.
  15. oracul
    oracul 28 February 2014 10: 09
    +13
    And whatever they say, Stalin was a Leader with a capital letter. Everything that happens in Ukraine gives the maximum idea of ​​what flirting with nationalists and fascists leads to. It is their actions that always turn into the blood of the majority. Stalin, on the other hand, defended the interests of working people, and not that part of the Soviet elite, which, even if it came out of the people, tried to arrogate to itself the monopoly right to control, to the well-being of their own and those of their loved ones. The fact that some of the common people became involved in the moloch of repression is a tragedy that inevitably arises when millions of masses come into motion, in the depths of which careerists, traitors, self-seekers, pests, and outright enemies and just random fellow travelers are hiding. Evidence of this is the "Maidan", among the participants of which there are many people, for various reasons, who sincerely believe in the correctness of its organizers and are ready for radical actions. Enlightenment will come, but it will be later and not for everyone.
  16. Ek.Sektor
    Ek.Sektor 28 February 2014 10: 09
    +13
    Stalin is truly the greatest patriot of the country and people, his methods were harsh, but thanks to these measures he made a real breakthrough and a miracle, taking a hungry beggarly country into control, brought it to nuclear weapons, the greatest victory in history and made it one of the main forces on the planet .
    Joseph Vissarionovich, thank you for your contribution!
  17. demotivator
    demotivator 28 February 2014 10: 13
    +8
    Ukrainian nationalists cannot live in a normal society. For them, the Poles were their enemies, the Jews were their enemies and the Soviet Union was an enemy, and from a certain moment the main enemy. And now there is also Russia and "moskali". I would like to remind you of how he, Ukrainian nationalism grew and developed during the Soviet years. During the Brezhnev period, Ukrainians were disproportionately represented in two population groups. Firstly, among the nomenklatura, and they, together with the Russians, ruled the Soviet Union, and secondly, among political prisoners. And they fell into the last category just for nationalism. But even at the level of official policy, one can see Ukrainian nationalism (in the nomenclature version). And this despite the fact that the last Bandera bandits, hiding in the forests in Ukraine, were suppressed only in the late 1950s, and in 1944 alone, the NKVD killed more than 50 thousand Ukrobandits. Note - the war was still going on! What do Ukrainian nationalists want today, what are their ideals?
    Their ideal is well reflected in the Ukrainian anthem, which was written in the second half of the XNUMXth century. “They will knock down our vorozhniki” and “we will pan ourselves on our side” - It was in many ways a peasant anthem: there will be no Polish lord, there will be no Moscow official ... There will be no Jew who owes money to someone. And we will be, and everything will be wonderful. Ukraine should be Ukrainian, should admire Bandera, should be united and mobilized, and the nation above all. The trouble is that in the modern world this ideal is not feasible. And it is very dangerous when the ideal diverges from what is possible. It is always fraught with war.
    1. Muadipus
      Muadipus 28 February 2014 10: 22
      +2
      their belts are soviet - somehow it’s not kosher))))
      1. ale-x
        ale-x 28 February 2014 15: 59
        0
        Are they (harnesses) really made of pigskin? good
  18. individual
    individual 28 February 2014 10: 15
    0
    “No, we are doing the right thing so severely punishing nationalists of all stripes and colors.

    All right.
    But the growth of national consciousness leads to the growth of nationalism and there is nothing to be done about it.
    On this, the national elite makes its policy in power.
    The more developed the society, the less nationalism.
    Russia is surrounded by states where the authorities encourage nationalism and need years and years of evolutionary development to make this infection a thing of the past.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 28 February 2014 12: 46
      0
      interesting opinion of the Jewish community of Ukraine, Russian hoods poorly bite off but there is no guarantee against pogroms
  19. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 28 February 2014 10: 17
    +3
    For the USSR or Russia, as for a multinational state, nationalism is generally fatal, the Anglo-Saxons still found an "Achilles heel", and now this is further aggravated simply by the total corruption of power and the general decline of Russian culture, as the fundamental and fastening one. "60 years ago. And in general, nationalism has never led to anything good. I think soon there will be pressure on the national communities within Russia, they say," Enough to live under the yoke of Moscow ", and on the Russians themselves, they say," Stop feeding the Caucasus "and so on ...
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 28 February 2014 10: 34
      +4
      Quote: Standard Oil
      For the USSR or Russia, as for a multinational state, nationalism is generally fatal

      In the world there are no states of only one nationality.

      The West perceives the inhabitants of Russia (about two hundred nationalities) all as Russians. In China, whose inhabitants we perceive as all Chinese, there are about 32 nationalities. In the Western countries themselves, the situation is exactly the same.

      Nationalism is one of the instruments for managing countries and peoples. The most recent good example is the activation of the Crimean Tatars to please the West.
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  21. alexis
    alexis 28 February 2014 10: 25
    +1
    It’s time for Russia to recall a forgotten Tatu song about Yugoslavia so that later it would not be necessary to compose a song about Ukraine
  22. BYKOV BORIS ARKADIEVICH
    BYKOV BORIS ARKADIEVICH 28 February 2014 10: 26
    0
    Not only Stalin but Khrushchev would have stamped his boot so that he would shut up the Maidan along with Europe and the Americans.
  23. Platov
    Platov 28 February 2014 10: 27
    +5
    "Stalin did not become a thing of the past, he disappeared into the future." Wise words of de Gaulle. Only "Stalin" can pull out of this swamp or swamp area.
  24. Weniamin
    Weniamin 28 February 2014 10: 32
    0
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Oddly enough, but under the autocracy there was no such problem.

    Autocracy is not so simple either. It rested on three pillars - the monarchy, the church and the secret office.

    And according to the article - great words. Still relevant.
  25. Auralski
    Auralski 28 February 2014 10: 38
    +3
    Well said and to the place. I am not a Stalinist, but a plus to Stalin. laughing
    National swagger is not doing well.
  26. sigizmund472
    sigizmund472 28 February 2014 10: 38
    +6
    The Leader looked far away. In my opinion, he saw through it all shenderovichs through and through ...
  27. Marisat
    Marisat 28 February 2014 10: 41
    -2
    Let's start with the fact that here Stalin is not an innovator. This thought generally runs a red thread in the creation of the Russian Empire. And the words are just wonderful. It is necessary to find the source, because Citizen Stalin himself did not really recommend himself, and many cannot distantly look at his deeds.
    After that, you can safely raise the banners. and I'm not joking.
    1. Corsair5912
      Corsair5912 28 February 2014 12: 04
      +2
      Quote: Marisat
      Let's start with the fact that here Stalin is not an innovator. This thought generally runs a red thread in the creation of the Russian Empire. And the words are just wonderful. It is necessary to find the source, because Citizen Stalin himself did not really recommend himself, and many cannot distantly look at his deeds.

      In the Russian Empire, nationalism and separatism were an acute problem, including Ukrainian nationalism. Only then did Bandera be called differently haidamaks. But they also fought with the Russians against the Poles, then with the Poles against the Russians, became famous for the brutal reprisals against the civilian population.
  28. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 28 February 2014 10: 50
    +9
    "Right Sector" intends to return to Ukraine part of Poland

    KIEV, February 27. Members of the organization "Right Sector" intend to return some Polish territories to Ukraine.

    The press secretary of the organization Andriy Tarasenko said this in an interview with the Polish edition "Rzeczpospolita" Answering the question of how fair they ("Right Sector" - Approx. "Rosbalt") consider the current borders of Ukraine, Tarasenko stressed that their task, as nationalists, is to unite and return ethnic lands "where Ukrainians lived for several thousand years".

    "After the war, as a result of Operation Vistula, Ukrainians were expelled from these lands, so ethnic justice dictates that these lands should be returned to Ukraine. I am talking about Przemysl and a number of other regions," Tarasenko said. A member of the "Right Sector" also noted that they intend to return the land using diplomatic methods. "We are not an imperial power, we do not intend to take foreign lands, we only want to take what belongs to us," Tarasenko said.

    He also noted that Ukraine's place is not in the European Union, since "that would be contrary to the idea of ​​a nation-state."
    Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/ukraina/2014/02/27/1238245.html


    here the statements went, as they say, For which Europeans fought, they ran into something. Let conclusions be drawn.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 28 February 2014 11: 53
      +2
      Quote: platitsyn70
      A member of the "Right Sector" also noted that they intend to return the land using diplomatic methods.

      If such "diplomats" as Tarasenko conduct diplomatic work in Ukraine, then I am afraid there will be nowhere to return the "ethnic" lands. A country of not frightened idiots.
    2. nikcris
      nikcris 28 February 2014 13: 50
      0
      Hooray! On a trip to the Vistula - get-get.
      And what, the maydanauts of the mental hospital dismissed? Or have they not had them there since independence?
  29. saag
    saag 28 February 2014 10: 53
    +6
    excellent work from the "Right Sector", bravo guys, keep up the good work and you will bury yourself :-)
  30. Known who
    Known who 28 February 2014 11: 07
    0
    As the water looked
  31. saag
    saag 28 February 2014 11: 12
    +1
    one more news "Katherine Ashton disappeared in Kiev0" http://politobzor.net/show-14075-v-kieve-propala-ketrin-eshton.html
    if this is the work of the "Right Sector" then it really turns out "Make the fool pray to God and he will break his forehead"
  32. Leprechaun
    Leprechaun 28 February 2014 11: 13
    0
    They especially succeeded in inciting ethnic hatred and setting some peoples against other British.

    Hmm ... Mustachioed looked into the water ...
    1. nikcris
      nikcris 28 February 2014 13: 55
      0
      And what did you mean by that? And where is the denomination of the brand? And just fart here dofiga people are able and I including bully
  33. densh
    densh 28 February 2014 11: 14
    +10
    Stalin was not the first. And in the Russian Empire, thinking people warned against including Galicia in its structure. In the above privacy, PN Durnovo He wrote this before the seizure of Lviv region, which before that had been Polish and sometimes Austro-Hungarian land for 600 years (1914)

    “For us, in the name of the idea of ​​national sentimentalism, it’s obviously unprofitable to attach to our homeland a region that has lost any living connection with it. After all, for an insignificant handful of Russians in the spirit of the Galicians, how much will we get Poles, Jews, Ukrainized Uniates? The so-called Ukrainian or Mazepa movement is not scary for us now, but we should not let it grow, increasing the number of restless Ukrainian elements, since in this movement there is an undeniable germ of extremely dangerous Little Russian separatism, which, under favorable conditions, can reach completely unexpected proportions. ”
    And he turned out to be right-scum provided all the conditions. The result is on the face. request
  34. shark
    shark 28 February 2014 11: 20
    +1
    If there are guys from the special services. Here's what I got - Transcript of the conversation Tyagnibok and Yarosh. Intimate talk.

    The press became information about the meeting of the leaders of the All-Ukrainian Association "Freedom" Oleg Tyagnibok and the Ukrainian nationalist movement "Right Sector" Dmitry Yarosh.

    The meeting took place on February 25 in a small fashionable Kiev restaurant "Turgenef" on Bolshaya Zhytomyr. The fact that they met in such a private setting confirms the important character and confidentiality of the conversation. Without disclosing details of exactly how our record of the conversation took place, we note only that the representatives of the security services of the opposition leaders worked quite professionally. Only an accident prevented them from preventing the “leakage of information”, and the Ukrainian public to look behind the curtain of the political scene in Ukraine.

    Introducing the abbreviated version of the transcript of the conversation

    ......................

    D. Yarosh: Oleg, you already understood that you and I will soon be “thrown”. Well, I’m unlikely, for me, “Maidan”, and you sure.

    O. Tyagnibok: It will be difficult, “Freedom” is now in the lead.

    D. Yarosh: That's right now. They will not let Freedom go to power. a Jew with broken brain (V. Klitschko - approx.ed.) and Yatsenyuk pushed you away. They already began to crush Julia. I saw that "1 + 1" about Zhenya (we are talking about the daughter of Yulia Tymoshenko Evgenia - approx. Ed.) Showed? How would you react if you showed this about your Darinka? Dirt is continuous. It's only the beginning.

    O. Tyagnibok: Do you know about Evgeny exactly?

    D. Yarosh: Yes. Martynenko personally set the task, and behind him Yatsenyuk stands.

    O. Tyagnibok: Does Yulia Vladimirovna know about this?

    D. Yarosh: I think he knows.

    O. Tyagnibok: What do you suggest?

    D. Yarosh: Everything is very simple. Our goals coincide. We both stand for Ukraine without the Jews and, I am the Nazi face, ov. You will help me, I will help you. Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, the “boxer”, and Julia too, think, first of all, how to get the money. And Julia also avenged the "well-wishers" for prison. So from them more harm than good.

    O. Tyagnibok: What do you expect from me?

    D. Yarosh: Oleg, I don’t need any power or money. If I wanted them, I would already have everything. I want to make Ukraine for Ukrainians. Now I need the position of the head of the SBU (Security Service of Ukraine - approx. Ed.). And the connections of the Ukrainian “bespeka” with me need to be cleaned up, otherwise they know a lot about us. Help, we will work together.

    O. Tyagnibok: The fact that your guys want to put you on the SBU, I heard, but did not think it was true. Why do you need it? Go to politics. Your support is powerful.
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 28 February 2014 13: 11
      0
      Quote: shark
      If there are guys from the special services.

      Yes bully the record must be checked. Credibility. And then Erdogan is blackmailed by 3 records, but as checked, it turned out to be a fake.
      Now, about the question, I doubt that the protection of the opposition leaders has such equipment. All the same, the FSB’s ears are visible))) this is called a leak in order to discredit political opponents.
      And if you delve into the conversation, if it is normal, the leaders are not fluffy, they are also party leaders who are fighting for power. Each puts forward its own conditions. The goal of the party is to come to power. This is an axiom. And why are parties created to play football wink
  35. shark
    shark 28 February 2014 11: 21
    0
    This is a transcript of the conversation between Tyanibok and Yarosh. February 25, 2014. Fully here (in the comments) -http: //www.sevastopol.su/news.php? Id = 57924

    D. Yarosh: In politics? What for? To wear a beautiful jacket? I already have strength. Time ended when we indulged in slingshots. Now I have so many weapons that it’s enough to break the ridges of all the “internal invaders”. Having the SBU resource, I, with my guys, will put things in order in the beginning, “I’m a Nazi muzzle, shchina” (eastern and south-eastern regions of Ukraine - approx. Ed.) And in Crimea. From Sevastopol, I am the Nazi face, we ourselves will run away. Make the ground burn under their feet. We’ll start strangling the sailor in the nooks, we’ll blow up a couple of ships. They will run as cute and they will take their henchmen with them! I will crush all evil spirits. In parallel, I will begin to “rustle” in the Voronezh, Belgorod and Kursk regions. We will prepare battle groups from the Tatars and send them to the Caucasus to help Imarat. This can be done by Sashko Muzychko. He has experience. Chechens respect him. There are connections. The more “she” will have problems, the less they will get to us. We will strengthen and stand on our feet at this time

    O. Tyagnibok: You have plans like Napoleon.

    D. Yarosh: No, not like Bandera.

    O. Tyagnibok: And if, I am a Nazi face, we will rise in Ukraine? In Donetsk, Kharkov, Sevastopol there are many of them. "Regionals" and "Komunyaki" still have not swallowed their teeth.

    D. Yarosh: They will swallow and drink Yushka. Here, I think, quietly remove the most violent. The rest will calm down.
    1. xan
      xan 28 February 2014 13: 56
      +2
      Quote: shark
      D. Yarosh: They will swallow and drink Yushka. Here, I think, quietly remove the most violent. The rest will calm down.

      Any action against Russians and Russian speakers, and a reverse report will be included. Yarosh already now need to avoid sorting.
      In general, it looks like a fake.
  36. Soldier dusty
    Soldier dusty 28 February 2014 11: 21
    +3
    Once again convinced of the excellent mind and reason of Stalin! this is a man!
  37. Kuvabatake
    Kuvabatake 28 February 2014 11: 22
    +2
    Right under Stalin had to work. There was no time to hesitate and nationally recognized lying on the couch ... With it, the entire Maidan would be collected and sent to the construction sites of the five-year plan to be recognized .... lol
  38. valokordin
    valokordin 28 February 2014 11: 23
    +1
    Let me remind you again. The enemy is cunning and treacherous, our cause is just, the enemy will be defeated, victory will be ours.
  39. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 28 February 2014 11: 27
    +3
    It’s not necessary to move out to the nation and look for evil there, dumping all the troubles that are happening. The authorities do not need to tear themselves away from the people! And the Ukrainian tragedy is the clearest example of this. High officials of this country were concerned only with their welfare, and not with ordinary citizens. During their reign, the country was mired in corruption in theft, slipping into the abyss of devastation and poverty. This is the main reason for what happened. Revolution and fascism as a consequence of criminal policies towards their own people.
  40. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 28 February 2014 11: 43
    +1
    "Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!" Another confirmation of Stalin's wisdom. This document is more relevant today than ever.
  41. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 28 February 2014 11: 50
    0
    By the way, the national republics themselves are the leaders of the Bolshevik party and muddied. And they did not change the situation when they ruled the country with an iron hand.
    But all the same, there is no need to spread rot and plunder the people, I use it only as a resource without caring about its well-being and observing the rule of law for all, regardless of the ranks.
  42. smersh70
    smersh70 28 February 2014 12: 19
    +2
    No one noticed one thing - could Stalin on March 26, 1941 say, “In the event of an attack by Nazi Germany.” It’s hard to believe, given how he was anxious about the Non-Aggression Pact and how directives and orders were given to the troops that Germany was our friend and ally, and not a word about her attack. All talk about this was completely stopped. In any case, you need to look at the source.
    1. calocha
      28 February 2014 12: 30
      0
      And why were factories in the west of Belarus and Ukraine dismantled shortly before the war ?! They were taken to the Urals and beyond the Urals ... As early as 30, Stalin said that the war was inevitable .... it was delayed as much as possible ... ..
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 28 February 2014 13: 05
        +1
        Quote: calocha
        factories in the west of Belarus and Ukraine were dismantled shortly before the war

        not at this time, but when the war was already on. There is a GKO Decree, look at the date
      2. nikcris
        nikcris 28 February 2014 14: 05
        -2
        Yes Yes. They, the factories, were built in 1940, and then they were dismantled and taken away to the damned masks. And all for the hryvnia.
        Here cure is impossible a priori. There is only one way out - eftanasia.
        To the south of us - the Mordvo-Tatars, did this crazy-witted people surrender at their side?
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 28 February 2014 12: 46
      0
      Quote: smersh70
      No one noticed one thing - could Stalin on March 26, 1941 say, "In the event of an attack by Nazi Germany."

      Well, now it’s already said that somehow the top is not competence, there are already a lot of documents that clearly and clearly describe the events preceding the outbreak of war
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 28 February 2014 13: 03
        0
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Well, now it’s somehow said the top is not competence

        I'm not talking about now .. look at the date of Stalin's interview, under the article - "In the event of a German attack on the Soviet Union, people of different nationalities inhabiting our country will defend it, not sparing their lives, as their beloved Motherland." . Stalin - Complete Works. Volume 15, "Conversation with AS Yakovlev March 26, 1941", p. 17
        1. wax
          wax 28 February 2014 13: 50
          +3
          By the way, excellent material in volume 15. Here it is in PDF:
          http://www.razumei.ru/files/others/pdf/Stalin_Sobranie_soch_tom15.pdf
          All questions of the present are answered by Stalin and Lenin. It is only necessary to read them themselves, and not interpreters, who are either idiots, or liberals, or enemies, because thinkers and patriots do not interpret them, but quote them.
        2. nikcris
          nikcris 28 February 2014 14: 24
          0
          I am always struck by stupid people ...
          You replace "Germany" with "Japan", "Britain".
          But stupid people are always right - they have help. I even built an elevator for them - from the first floor to the second. If it (the elevator) will work, you will have to hire a couple of electricians.
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 28 February 2014 14: 44
          0
          iii, further?
          I do not quite understand you
      2. valokordin
        valokordin 28 February 2014 14: 29
        +1
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        Well, now it’s already said that somehow the top is not competence, there are already a lot of documents that clearly and clearly describe the events preceding the outbreak of war

        Marshal Vasilenko, do not distort the facts. The article does not contain the words "In the event of an attack by Nazi Germany" In this, I noticed that your message is a way to question what Stalin said. Open the collected work of I.V. Stalin there everything is written Feldarshal.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 28 February 2014 15: 15
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          Excuse me for what ?!
          what exactly did I distort?
          in fact, there was talk that Stalin allegedly did not expect an attack by Germany
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    3. wax
      wax 28 February 2014 13: 39
      0
      Take a look. The source is here http://www.razumei.ru/lastlib/otherbooks/296
      Opens in PDF. This is a conversation with aircraft designer Yakovlev in the office. By the way, the validity of the conclusion of a non-aggression pact with Hitler Germany because of the military backwardness of the USSR as of that time was clearly confirmed there.
    4. nikcris
      nikcris 28 February 2014 14: 10
      0
      Stalin didn’t say such shit. Where did you unearth this?
  43. nikcris
    nikcris 28 February 2014 13: 17
    +3
    Stalin was the only one in a bunch of Bolsheviks who was categorically against the formation of republics on a national basis. For this, grandfather Lenin put him from the rostrum. Democratic centralism then worked. Today we reap democracy without centralism.
  44. santush
    santush 28 February 2014 13: 22
    +1
    The greatest man I.V. Stalin, it turns out, back in the spring of 1941, said that Natsik should be kept in check ... And Yanukovych flirted with them. Now the consequences for Ukraine are not yet known!
  45. parus2nik
    parus2nik 28 February 2014 13: 28
    +1
    And where is J.V. Stalin wrong ..? It was necessary to crush the Natsiks during the "Perestroika" operation .. but Tagged, did not do everything to collapse ..
  46. groin
    groin 28 February 2014 13: 43
    +3
    A person of any nationality can be Russian, just like I.V. Stalin himself. Russian is a state of mind and character. All Russianness is multinational.
    1. nikcris
      nikcris 28 February 2014 14: 38
      -1
      I have the flag of Kazakhstan, I shake my hand - I'm trying to hammer this heresy about Russianness. Russian is an adjective. Barlay de Tolly, Kruzenshtern, Miklouho recourse Maclay, Przhevalsky, Bagration - not really not Russians?
      1. groin
        groin 1 March 2014 07: 25
        +1
        Of course, you bent into the heresy account. But honestly, there are a lot of Russians (by passport) who have no other nationalities in their family? Those whom I know (Russian) who just don’t belong to the family, even Negroes. Most of them are mixed with Russian, Ukrainian, Tatar, Chechen, Turkish, Belarusian blood, Italian grandmother (I found out when I was looking for my roots). And I am Russian and I’m from the passport , and by birth, and in spirit. And no one will forbid me to respect the above nationalities. I am an internationalist, and you?
  47. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 28 February 2014 14: 11
    +2
    UNIAN, citing an informed source, reports that a missile boat of the Black Sea Fleet (Black Sea Fleet) of the Russian Federation approached the external raid of the Balaklava Bay near Sevastopol. Thus, the exit from the bay to the sea to the ships and boats of Ukrainian border guards was actually blocked. In addition, another armored personnel carrier of the Russian Black Sea Fleet appeared on the streets of the city of Sevastopol - on Ushakov Square, near the building of the Sailor Club of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. The news agency noted that it was not possible to clarify the information in the press service of the Black Sea Fleet.
    Russian tanks are located 15 km from the border with Ukraine. It is reported by Interfax-Ukraine, citing a source in the military districts. “The Russian side informed us that within the framework of the exercises, military equipment will be located near the border with Ukraine,” the source said.
    The press service of the Black Sea Fleet (Black Sea Fleet) of Russia has denied information about the involvement of Russian troops in blocking the Belbek airfield near Sevastopol. It is reported by Lenta.ru with reference to Interfax. The representative of the Russian Black Sea Fleet noted that anti-terror units provide security for Russian troops and their families located in Crimea.
  48. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 28 February 2014 14: 53
    +4
    JV Stalin often began to remember everyone, they started talking about the lost priorities of socialism, in short, "we do not keep what we have, having lost crying" I myself was convinced how many times that the principle of building the USSR proposed by Stalin was the most real and correct, the formation of a Federation with national republics initially became a delayed-action mine (world experience has shown that separatist sentiments will always smolder in them) Russia, now, the federal structure only interferes with development, so an urgent need to return to the provincial division, with the basic principle: before the law, everyone is equal! This is exactly what V.V. Zhirinovsky proposes.
  49. jack1
    jack1 28 February 2014 15: 01
    +2
    Zhirinovsky will never reach Stalin. And he will not become president.
  50. Vital 33
    Vital 33 28 February 2014 16: 18
    0
    Is there anything on this site about military equipment ??????? !!!
    1. nikola77797
      nikola77797 28 February 2014 23: 28
      0
      Eat a lot.
    2. Manul
      Manul 3 March 2014 16: 12
      0
      Quote: Vital 33
      Is there anything on this site about military equipment ??????? !!!

      We look at the tabs at the top.