Forgotten lessons of history: Stalin on Ukrainian nationalism

“No, we are doing the right thing, so severely punishing the nationalists of all stripes and colors. They are the best helpers of our enemies and the worst enemies of their own nations. After all, the nationalists' cherished dream is to split the Soviet Union into separate “national” states, and then it will become easy prey for enemies. The peoples inhabiting the Soviet Union, for the most part, will be physically exterminated, the rest will turn into dumb and pathetic slaves of the conquerors.

It is not by chance that the despicable traitors of the Ukrainian people - the leaders of the Ukrainian nationalists, all these millers, konovalians, Bandera have already received the task of German intelligence to stir up among Ukrainians who are Russians, hate Russians and seek separation of Ukraine from the Soviet Union. The same old song of ancient times since the period of the Roman Empire: divide and conquer.

Especially succeeded in inciting national hatred and incitement of one people against other Englishmen. Thanks to such tactics, bribing the miserable and corrupt leaders of various nations, capitalist island England - the first factory of the world, negligible in size, managed to seize vast territories, enslave and rob many nations of the world, create a “Great” British Empire, in which, boastfully say the British, the sun never sets.

With us, this number, while we are alive, will not work. So it’s in vain that the Hitler fools call the Soviet Union a “house of cards”, which allegedly collapses during the first serious test, is counting on the fragility of the friendship of the peoples inhabiting our country today, hoping to make them quarrel with each other. In the event of a German attack on the Soviet Union, people of different nationalities who inhabit our country will defend it, sparing no life as their beloved homeland.

However, nationalists should not be underestimated. If allowed to act with impunity, they will bring a lot of trouble. That is why they should be kept in the iron rein, not to let them undermine the unity of the Soviet Union. ”

IV Stalin - Complete Works. Volume 15, "Conversation with A.S. Yakovlev 26 March 1941 of the Year ", C. 17

Comments

[makst83]

The Soviet Union, even under Untermensch Gorbachev, was 100% resistant and not destroyed by external aggression, but unfortunately was not resistant to internal destruction!

[Same lech]

It’s bad when the state is kept at the liberty of one person, when something happens to him, the whole state shakes to the ground, so it should not be.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

It’s bad when the state keeps on the will of one person,

Oddly enough, but under the autocracy there was no such problem. According to statistics, there were fewer bad kings in Russia (in relation to their own country) than in a democracy with bad presidents.

Plato's work "The State", in Book 8, contains, perhaps, the most eloquent arguments demonstrating the failure of democracy. In short, this form of government leads, according to Plato, to the ignorance of written and unwritten laws by citizens. People become selfish consumers, a general, pronounced alienation reigns in society. The result is slavery in its highest manifestations. The arbitrariness of the crowd is replaced by the arbitrariness of a single person, transforming democracy into tyranny, i.e. its dialectical opposite.

And if we understand the goals of the "true" champion of world democracy, then one cannot but agree with some political scientists who assert that our government is playing by someone else's, imposed rules and a marked deck. Even assuming their good intentions. We will never win this way. Thinking and goals need to be changed starting from kindergarten. The same Dales plan, but exactly the opposite. History textbooks need ideals, like Gagarin and Maresyev, the same thing should be on TV, so who will do it? Now the mass media educate our children in the spirit of house 2 and the island, where personal well-being and benefit is the main thing. And excuse me, I do not believe that the state, partly the owner of many entertainment channels, does not know about the role of TV in shaping the personality of adolescents. With the further continuation of this policy, we will grab the steeper Ukraine.
Returning to autocracy, I believe that Lukashenko would be an ideal candidate for the founder of the dynasty of the tsars of All Russia. My opinion.

[stroporez]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Thinking and goals need to be changed, starting from kindergarten

exactly!! I think that this is upbringing from kindergarten, there is the main task of the correct government. Cho to go far, worked in a children's rehabilitation center. Children "from the teeth" know who Captain America is, Batman, Spiderman ........ .and almost no one knows such names as Kotigoroshek, Kozhemyaka, Vygorny ...... we initially prepare children "for them" .... and this is sad ..........

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: stroporez

I think that this is education from kindergarten, there is the main task of the right government

10 years ago I met with Shchetinin (he has a school in Tecos, near Gelendzhik) Children are smart! You speak with them as equals. But seeing Shchetinin is not a decree and not an example for our Ministry of Science and Science, they are closer to the American path in spirit and purpose.

[stroporez]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Shchetinin

--- pleasing, but ------ exception. it is possible to say singular. and I'm pretty sure ---------- they will crush him .........

[tundra]

Do not go to the grandmother. Otherwise, loafers and lovers of gay Westerners, but rather loafers from the minobra will be expelled.

[nikcris]

My daughter, LIVING IN KAZAKHSTAN, at five years old rushed at my grandfather (my father) for criticizing EBN - don’t hesitate! EBN is our president! Here you have a kindergarten. Children absorb from the side much more actively than from the family.

[Simon]

President, the president is different. One betrays his people and state, the other drunk dances, sings and clowns the whole world, that the whole earth trembles with laughter, disgracing our people, and the third pulls the state out of the pit and makes it strong.

[Take it]

we would have these "BANDYerovtsev", there would not be this EBNa ...

[valokordin]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Returning to autocracy, I believe that Lukashenko would be an ideal candidate for the founder of the dynasty of the tsars of All Russia. My opinion

I agree with the opinion of the head of state, but not with the monarch, since this is not possible — there is no nobility, and a constitutional monarchy with a weak ruler = it's like a toy.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: valokordin

constitutional monarchy under a weak ruler = it's like a toy

Everything is fixable. The king distributes the nobility. As a rule to associates.
(A subtle allusion to our "king" and his "associates".)
But the constitutional monarchy is also very viable. Norway as an example. and indeed countries with monarchies in the first lines in the list of living standards.

[nikcris]

He (the king) does not give out. Only Countess and other servants. Tipo Pope Lenin.

[smile]

Ingvar 72
Well, a king will come, like a second dumpling ... and what will you do? The Great October Socialist Revolution? And why the heck then goat button accordion? Or will you re-elect with a snuffbox on the head to produce, and then look for an heir among his relatives or invite a monarch from the outside to the kingdom?
By the way, are you sure that if you appoint Lukashenko as king, you will find a worthy successor among his children? Or just the eldest will fasten the crown and everything will be fine? And if he will give the will to the youngest as a will, he previously took the child to all official meetings, remember? :))) And who and who will appoint the regent?
What, then, the issue of choosing a monarch between children will be decided by the bayonets of the guard or individual conspirators with the help of an officer scarf? :)))
Admittedly, calls to return to the monarchy raise doubts about whether the monarchists understand what they say? Able to assess the consequences? Are they adequate at all? :))) Forgive me, please ...
By the way, I understand that you indicated the figure of Lukashenko as a populist measure ... :))) But you are sure. what if the monarch begins to plant members of his family (and how else, he’s the monarch, you think), then everyone in Russia will like it? Now Moscow is barking with St. Petersburg ... but imagine what will happen when the whole political elite of a huge country is formed in Belarus? :)))

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: smile

Well, a king will come, like a second dumpling ... and what will you do? By the way, are you sure that if you appoint Lukashenko as king, you will find a worthy successor among his children?

Hello Vladimir. There is always a risk, but with this electoral system, the risk that unscrupulous people will come to power is much higher. I repeat once again, a person at the helm will take care of his own, family boat, and not rented as a result of the election.

Quote: smile

Able to assess the consequences? Are they adequate at all? :))) Forgive me, please ...

This is a utopia, as a result of the implementation of which there will certainly be mistakes and dissatisfied, but nevertheless there would be much more advantages.

Quote: smile

By the way, I understand that you indicated the figure of Lukashenko as a populist measure ..

You’re wrong, Vladimir, sincerely called you not to find another candidate on this continent. We need a strong man, like Stalin, Chavez, Castro. Only such a person has the right to establish a dynasty. Lukashenko is the best suited for this role.
You probably noticed that my thoughts intersect with the book "Project Russia"? My opinion is that the book was written under the GDPR, my thoughts are correct, but judging by his policy, the candidate is not the same.

[shatu]

Quote: Ingvar 72

There is always a risk, but with this electoral system, the risk that unscrupulous people will come to power is much higher

People's hobbies for the monarchy are understandable, people expect that the "ruler" is vitally interested in the well-being of his country. But where is the guarantee that an intelligent ruler will have the same son and will not drink away all the achievements of his parents?

Or maybe you need to change the system? With the current development of IT, options are quite possible, as an example:
if you want to become an official or a state manager - you must pass an exam, at least for knowledge of Russian history and management science (the list is not complete, of course). For officials below the gubernatorial level, broadcast their bleating at the regional level, from the governor and above to the whole country. And on the basis of this, to evaluate, and not a scribble, which is called the election program and which they did not even read.

And in general, whether or not to allow such a person to rule the country, is decided on the basis of public scores, roughly speaking, the children study abroad (without having received education in Russia), do not serve in the army - went for it!

For Stalin, one son died in concentration camps (or maybe in battles, but about a concentration camp - a fascist bike), the second was a combat pilot, and the current ghouls in Cambridge and Harvard did not see the army, Russian schools and universities.

With your permission, I will refer to my comment on social points http://topwar.ru/40335-vremya-dlya-patrioticheskogo-vospitaniya.html#comment-id-
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[SkiF_RnD]

With the current development of IT, options are quite possible, as an example:
if you want to become an official or a state manager - you must pass an exam, at least for knowledge of Russian history and management science (the list is not complete, of course). For officials below the gubernatorial level, broadcast their bleating at the regional level, from the governor and above to the whole country. And on the basis of this, to evaluate, and not a scribble, which is called the election program and which they did not even read.

Here is a sound idea. It is necessary that people who are knowledgeable in such a matter prepare a legislative base in this direction. So that when you have to implement such a principle, a well-developed project was at hand. Otherwise, these are just words, unfortunately.

[smile]

Ingvar 72
Well, if you yourself think that the monarchy is a utopia, then there are no questions and cannot be. I love to dream too. :)))
I do not agree with your estimate of GDP, well, God bless him, I don’t want to argue.

[SkiF_RnD]

Well, if you yourself think that the monarchy is a utopia, then there are no questions and cannot be.

Utopia from utopias is a democracy, don't you think so?

[sanitarlesa]

Which king? !!! are you out of your mind ?? the whole path of mankind has proved that this path is destructive

[Basarev]

That is why the king must be strong! Nicholas I is one of the best examples.

[Vladimir73]

And Nicholas II is the second example ...

[Flooding]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Returning to autocracy, I believe that Lukashenko would be an ideal candidate for the founder of the dynasty of the tsars of All Russia.

There were Rurikovich, there were Romanovs. Is it time for the Alexandrovich?

[Dart2027]

Autocracy is not only a king, but also an idea. It was not by chance that many years of persecution were carried out in order to discredit the government as such. As already written after the revolution, one of the main culprits of the death of RI Milyukov:

“You know that we made a firm decision to use the war to carry out a coup soon after the start of this war. Note also that we could not wait any longer, because we knew that at the end of April or the beginning of May our army had to go on the offensive, the results which would immediately completely stop all hints of discontent and cause an explosion of patriotism and jubilation in the country.
You understand now why at the last minute I hesitated to agree to a coup, you also understand what my inner state should be like at the moment. History will curse our leaders, the so-called proletarians, but curse us, who caused the storm.
What to do now, you ask ...
I do not know. That is, inside we both know that the salvation of Russia in returning to the monarchy, we know that all the events of the last two months have clearly proved that the people were not able to perceive freedom, that the mass of the population, not participating in rallies and congresses, was monarchically configured, that many many campaigning for the republic do this out of fear.
All this is clear, but we simply cannot admit it. "

Even after the death of the Romanovs, the people remained thoroughly monarchical and perceived Stalin precisely as the tsar.
And democracy is just a disguised oligarchy when a clown is chosen, and he does what they say. If he tries to rock the boat, then everyone knows the fate of the Kennedy brothers.

[Basarev]

I heard a story about Russia in the First World War. So: despite the insidious harassment of Russia's participation in the war, the situation was not as deplorable as they wrote. Of course, the supply was extremely weak and meager, but still this is a world war and therefore such a situation another thing is important - the Germans and the henchmen of the German Empire were stuck in the west of Ukraine and Belarus, unable to move further, and therefore it was quite possible to drive the Germans out of the occupied areas with a few powerful blows - Brusilov turned a very similar trick.

[Dart2027]

So about that. The entire top of the ministries and generals, together with the State Duma, sought to prevent victory, because it would interfere with their plans.

[Basarev]

In fact, in the event of a completely possible victory (I allow myself to alternatively tell), the authority of the tsar personally soars to truly sky-high heights. Winning Russia shakes the Germans out of enormous reparations. Foreign and domestic investments go to the victorious empire with a golden river. the economy is rapidly catching up with the strongest economies in the world. And no mutiny-revolutions ...

[inkass_98]

Whatever one may say, the heir to the throne from childhood was brought up by a statesman (the position of Nicholas II according to the population census: the owner of the Russian Land), unlike all kinds of temporary workers, the tsar does not need to rob his own economy, leading it to decline. The elected "people" are casual people, with a completely unpredictable education (or generally no one), who love and know how to broadcast from the stands at rallies. Often, their main goal is to grab (with impunity if possible) and fuck off.

[Kovlad]

absolutely agree!

[AlexxNik]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Oddly enough, under the autocracy there was no such problem

and what’s strange, there a man from childhood was prepared for life (ideally), and democracy is imposed on the whole world for this purpose, that controlled parsley is put for several years, supposedly elected by the people

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

for Russia autocracy the only successful form of government Stalin was essentially a Monarch, the only problem was that there was no receiver

[Basarev]

There was a successor. I don’t remember exactly, but it seems like they were going to make Beria a successor. But Khrushchev happened and the irreparable began.

[Dart2027]

Initially, Kirov - and he was killed.
Then Beria - and he was killed.

[Evgeniy-111]

And who should be considered Stalin - the king or the president?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Evgeniy-111

And who should be considered Stalin - the king or the president?

definitely Monarch

[radio operator]

Quote: Evgeniy-111

And who should be considered Stalin - the king or the president?

He positioned himself as a red monarch. In fact, it was so, the autocrat is a king.

[Simon]

Chairman of the Politburo. What Stalin was.

[zeleznijdorojnik]

Secretary of the Central Committee of the All-Union Communist Party of Bolsheviks, Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars, and later Council of Ministers, Supreme Commander-in-Chief.

[vyatom]

Kings were raised from childhood to rule the country. They knew several languages ​​and served in certain regiments or naval crews. Moreover, for example, the Romanovs are an indisputable dynasty. And the seizures of power as in third world countries, where a dictator seated himself on the ruler’s chair for many years, lead to the degradation of the country and society.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: vyatom

The Romanovs are an indisputable dynasty.

here you can argue

[Basarev]

And in fact - the Rurikovichs - both the first and the last - sacredly watched over the freedom of the peasantry. In all Sudebniks of Rurikovich, a separate article confirms the "St. George's Rule." But the Romanovs, relying not on the people, but on an extremely small stratum of nobility, to please these same nobles began to enslave the peasants, but the peasants did not like it at all.

[Vitlek]

+ I agree with you. I want to add that under the autocracy they did not divide according to nationality, there was the concept of religion, if we recall this now, then we are Ukrainians (at least Eastern) and Belarusians are one people

[Foxmara]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Oddly enough, but under the autocracy there was no such problem. According to statistics, there were fewer bad kings in Russia (in relation to their own country) than in a democracy with bad presidents.

democracy in itself generates bad rulers and corruption. The change of power does not allow working professionally and with interest.

[My address]

Alexey! You have touched a very painful topic.
Here I do not like much in Putin’s domestic policy. But, God forbid, what will happen to him? Who will temporarily perform duties? Do not bring, my God, mityunya?

[jjj]

Quote: My address

I don’t like much about Putin’s internal politics. But, God forbid, what will happen to him? Who will be acting temporarily?

But the Americans are quite capable of bringing down the presidential board somewhere on the World Ocean. And the world will still applaud them that "democracy has won." And Russia will not start a war in response. This is what makes the inner chill

[SkiF_RnD]

shoot down the presidential board, somewhere on the oceans. And the world will still applaud them that "democracy has won." And Russia will not start a war in response.

Won't start? I would not be so sure ...

[inkass_98]

Yes, the main sadness is that there are no worthy successors. Iproso bright personalities a bit, the triumph of dullness. Sergei Ivanov does not climb people, Lavrov is also not a young pioneer by age, and this is not his thing, Dimsik is not an argument at all. The opposition is just as amorphous.

[novobranets]

From the mitun, the president, like, excuse me, from go.na bullet.

[Associate Professor]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

It’s bad when the state keeps on the will of one person

And there is. And Putin understands this well.

[222222]

Yesterday on the TV program Solovyov Oleg Tsarev on this occasion ("when the state shakes"):
1. "If the ruler surrendered"
2. "If the security forces got cold feet"
3. "foreign invasion"
In principle, yesterday's program was calm. even Zhirinovsky did not rampage. All participants confirmed the integrity of Ukraine. Nobody stopped at the role of oligarchs in the events in Ukraine and the main parties. Obviously taboo. Nilov's interesting thought "about holding the Yalta Conference 2.0 at the highest level ...

[vladimirZ]

The same LEKHA (1)
It’s bad when the state is kept at the liberty of one person, when something happens to him, the whole state shakes to the ground, so it should not be.

This pattern "when the state is kept at the will of one person" was calculated by the Americans in the system of government of the USSR.
And using this weakness, they began purposefully with the help of their agents of influence to move the traitor Gorbachev into the leadership of the CPSU, with the goal of the internal destruction of the state.
In today's Russia, this pattern has remained: the principle of "no alternative" power reliance on one Leader, the principle of over-concentration of power in the hands of a ruling Leader who has truly monarchical power, using which you can also relatively simply, without military intervention, destroy our current state.
And if any "chosen" monarch is placed at the head of Russia, this pattern will acquire a chronically painful character, which will lead Russia into a state of a small, externally controlled banana state about the size of the Moscow Kremlin.

[Corsair5912]

Quote: The same Lech

It’s bad when the state is kept at the liberty of one person, when something happens to him, the whole state shakes to the ground, so it should not be.

Great sovereigns are the property of the people; they are not born every century, but their influence on the path of mankind is colossal.

[Siberian German]

I agree - but the question is that a person with an iron will often does not trust his associates

[Deniska999]

Stalin verbs the truth.

[GrayL]

He was just an intelligent man, and not how he is painted ... like double standards everywhere: Grozny and Stalin, such as cozl, and Peter 1 is great ... it's like right in Ukraine now, on the Maidan like activists , and in the Crimea it’s bld ... sad ... (There are no complaints against Peter, don’t think what)

[GrayL]

They especially succeeded in inciting ethnic hatred and setting some peoples against other British. Thanks to such tactics, bribing the pathetic and corrupt leaders of different nations - the answer in the article is bribing the pathetic and corrupt leaders of different peoples

[valokordin]

Quote: GrayL

They especially succeeded in inciting ethnic hatred and setting some peoples against other British. Thanks to such tactics, bribing the pathetic and corrupt leaders of different nations - the answer in the article is bribing the pathetic and corrupt leaders of different peoples

So Grobacheva Thatcher recruited back in 1974

[Hs487]

Quote: makst83

The Soviet Union, even under Untermensch Gorbachev, was 100% resistant and not destroyed by external aggression, but unfortunately was not resistant to internal destruction!

It was necessary in 1922 to build the USSR in the way that Stalin proposed to do, then there would have been fewer internal squabbles on national soil at times or would not have existed.

[jjj]

Golden Stalinist words. They should be our guide to action.

[120352]

But the drunk Yeltsin with his Sonderkommand broke everything.

[Basarev]

The Sonderkommand and the Einsatzgrupp are not synonyms! The Sonderkommand, in fact, was the Wehrmacht special forces, carrying out the most difficult and dangerous tasks. And the Einsatzgruppes simply killed and robbed the temporarily occupied territories. This is not the same thing, and these different concepts should not be confused.

[avdkrd]

Quote: makst83

under Untermensch Gorbachev

Untermensch sounds somewhat incongruous in relation to Gorbachev. Untermensch is from the lexicon of Hitler's Nazism. For Gorbachev, the epithets are more suitable - Judas and the traitor. He is just a series of "miserable corrupt leaders of the peoples" about whom Stalin spoke. I'm waiting for him to die. I want to spit on his grave and I will punish the children to do the same.

[Ivan Petrovich]

yes, wise was a steel leader ... not like the current political impotent

[ziqzaq]

Quote: Ivan Petrovich

yes, wise was a steel leader ... not like the current political impotent

STALIN - a true Russian patriot !!!

[major071]

History has a cyclical structure, it will still return:

[zeleznijdorojnik]

Hurry, really.

[michelle]

The only head of state who left behind two personal suits and worn boots out of personal property ...

[Muadipus]

STALIN - a true Russian patriot !!!

I would slightly paraphrase Stalin - a truly Russian Georgian! For Russian - this already implies - a patriot. others are not worthy to call themselves Russian.

[Uhe]

He called himself Russian, not Georgian. Russian communist. Russian is the one who thinks in Russian, and Stalin certainly thought in Russian.

[Uhe]

He called himself Russian, not Georgian. Russian communist. Russian is the one who thinks in Russian, and Stalin certainly thought in Russian.

[radio operator]

Quote: Uhe

He called himself Russian, not Georgian. Russian communist. Russian is the one who thinks in Russian, and Stalin certainly thought in Russian.

Great Russian sentiments of Stalin were especially evident during the war and
reached the highest register in his toast speech delivered by him on
Reception-banquet in honor of the victory over Germany in 1945 year. Here is a part of it
toast given in the book of aircraft designer A. Yakovlev:

"Comrades, let me raise one more last toast. I would like
raise a toast to the health of our Soviet people and, above all, the Russian
of the people (present with enthusiastic applause and shouts of "Hurray"
met these words).
I drink, first of all, for the health of the Russian people because he
is the most outstanding nation of all the nations that make up
Soviet Union. I raise a toast to the health of the Russian people because he
in this war earned general recognition as the leading force of the Soviet
Union, among all the peoples of our country. I raise a toast to Russian health
people, not only because he is the leading people, but also because he
has a clear mind, steadfast character and patience. "

Stalin said that the governing force of the Soviet Union is not
the proletariat of the USSR, as declared by the October Revolution, and
"Russian people" than openly switched from the position of Marxism to the side
Great-power interests of Russian bureaucrats. All the other rehashings of Stalin
in his speech about the special merits of the Russian people additionally
emphasize the Stalinist great-power chauvinism, to which he drew attention
even Lenin in his letter "on autonomization."
With the light hand of Stalin in all official documents, materials,
dictionaries, encyclopedias, textbooks recorded this assessment of excellence
Russian people over other peoples of the Soviet Union.

[Revolver]

Somewhere in the late 1920s you would have been sent for a portrait-caricature to rest (all-inclusive) on Solovki for a couple of years. Starting from the 1930s, and after the accession of Khrushchev, at least 10 years in the Gulag, and even to the wall, especially between 1941 and 1945. Yes, and under Khrushchev and his followers it wouldn’t have seemed enough, and you would have had them immediately for anti-Soviet rule, and for the praise of the cult (both personality and religious), so that for a better job than a janitor, a caretaker, or at best a plumber, one would not have to count, and then no less than 101 km from Moscow and Leningrad. During the restructuring, it probably would have failed.
And in general, have respect for Stalin, at least for what he did as the Supreme Commander.

[saag]

nationalism as an idea is a dead end, it’s a jam in one’s own juice, for pride it’s certainly nice, but in general there are few dividends from it

[Same lech]

But nationalists can be tempted for their own purposes as you like-declared someone an enemy of the nation and Natsik with bats and chains are already flying to destroy both the enemy and a respectable citizen (who accidentally turned out to be nearby) -this is used by all sorts of bastards, especially the Anglo-Saxons.

[Muadipus]

Quote: saag

nationalism as an idea is a dead end, it’s a jam in one’s own juice, for pride it’s certainly nice, but in general there are few dividends from it

In general, I support you. BUT there are other examples. For example, these guys think differently:

[Uhe]

These guys have everything written on their ... uh ... faces;). In general, Zionism is a form of fascism.

[nikcris]

Nail two portraits side by side - Sverdlov and Trotsky. They are without pace, but the expression on the face is the same.

[shasherin_pavel]

Especially the right one in the photo, he’ll put anyone on his knees - he has trashed Zionism! Yes, not one of them is heavier than his own member, in life, he has not pulled out of his pants. On Saturday, their garden with barbed wire and they do not even lift a finger, because on Saturday you can’t work.

[Egoza]

That's because I.V. Stalin knew how to "keep in an iron rein" and after death he was afraid and hated! And it's time to remember his lessons !!!!

[bomg.77]

Elena, who is this communist, do not tell me?

[valokordin]

I look at the sacrifice of this category of people, how they were blamed and shot down, simply destroyed. This has always been done by the Nazis, Bandera and the Democrats. So Yeltsin, Sobchak and doggies, priests, boerboels, shahrai, chubais. the gadars are bad guys, bears, the present writer is no better. It’s like the first Christians who were crucified, and they all dreamed about the future, brought good to human souls.

[Evgeniy-111]

Especially good at carrying good Yarosh!

[Basarev]

It's time to release barburofelis on all these boerboels!

[Orang]

Quote: Basarev

It's time to release barburofelis on all these boerboels!

Megistoterium

[Aleksys2]

Quote: bomg.77

who is this communist, do not tell me?

"Dear comrades! I, Vasilko Rostislav Stepanovich, 1st secretary of the Lviv city committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine, in Kiev, was beaten by banderlog at the very least. They are persecuting my mother, threatening with reprisals for my children. They threaten to kill me and my common-law wife. Help me find political asylum in another country. On February 22.02.14, 11, from 00:23 to 00:2, Maidanites tortured me in Mariinsky Park, drove needles under my nails, beat me with sticks, fists, punched my right lung, broke three ribs, a nasal septum, a facial cyst. They gutted my skull. Got a concussion of XNUMX degrees All blue. Tomorrow they will have a puncture of the spinal cord. The trouble is black! They cleaned everything, took away documents, money, a gold chain with a cross, "blogger ColonelCassad published a message from the communist.
After the text of the appeal, he appeals to subscribers with a request to verify the authenticity of the information.
“One of my acquaintances, Lviv communists, is now in the hospital with a torn skull, broken kidneys, torn nails, a punctured right lung, three broken ribs and a nasal septum. They beat him for several hours in a row in one of the most beautiful city parks, after which they carefully informed him a common-law wife, that the same is in store for her. How to get it out of there, where and how to transport it - you will understand, "adds one of the leaders of the Russian Left Front, Daria Mitina.
Further in the comments, she notes that she discussed the situation with the Communists from the State Duma of the Russian Federation - the main question is how to help others who find themselves in the same situation.
"They are already working on it, and a whole list of others - unfortunately, he is not alone in such a situation. Specifically for Rostislav, there will be no problems with his transportation and arrangement, but the main problem now is how to leave the hospital, he is not mobile himself, and you cannot approach the hospital, there is a triple cordon of orcs, "Mitina writes.
Note that the Communist Party of Ukraine is really going through hard times. At the beginning of the week, the media published information about pogroms in the regional committees of the Communist Party of Ukraine throughout Ukraine.
At the same time, a discussion of the beating of Vasilko is going on at the forum of the Ukrainian Pravda publication. According to the "accusers", the modest Lviv politician was that sinister mysterious sniper who "shot the peaceful Maidan."

source http://www.nakanune.ru/news/2014/2/26/22342841

[bomg.77]

I’m looking, and I’ll hold my teeth together! And the woman is there .. just tear apart

[shatu]

At the same time, a discussion of the beating of Vasilko is going on at the forum of the Ukrainian Pravda publication. According to the "accusers", the modest Lviv politician was that sinister mysterious sniper who "shot the peaceful Maidan."

Quote from the article here.

That is, by doing so, they confirm that the Berkut did not shoot?
What creatures are these Bandera, real fascists.

It’s good that there is a photo. Pinched the creatures will find you.

And this pi ... yes, in the so-called Ukrainian government now it seems?

[Simon]

For the reader these bastards for it. A fascist, he is a fascist.

[deman73]

Great words - Great Leader !!!

[Egoza]

That's because I.V. Stalin knew how to "keep him in an iron bridle" and after death they are afraid and hated! And it's time to remember his lessons !!!!

[Sergg]

It is no coincidence that the despicable traitors of the Ukrainian people - the leaders of Ukrainian nationalists, all these millers, Konovalets, Bandera have already received a task from the German intelligence to incite among the Ukrainians, who are the same Russians, hatred of the Russians

The customer has changed, now the bloody fascist state of the USA, but the traitors are the same despicable forces as before.

[Andrey78]

It was said that "The Englishmen were especially successful in inciting ethnic hatred and inciting some peoples against others."

[Million]

Stalin would quickly resolve the issue now ..

[alexng]

Under him, the Union would not have collapsed at all.

A demonstration in the center of Kiev, under the slogan "A world without makeup", which consisted of unadorned women, scared away the gay pride parade, the Berkut special unit and the Sabbath of Satanists ....

[Alexandr 2]

Wise words of Stalin "After all, the cherished dream of nationalists is to split the Soviet Union into separate" national "states, and then it will become an easy prey for enemies. The peoples inhabiting the Soviet Union, in their majority, will be physically exterminated, the rest will turn into wordless and miserable slaves conquerors. " It is necessary to speak such wise thoughts from the TV screen.

[Boris55]

Only together we are power.
Stalin failed to outplay Lenin. He tailored the USSR by nationality, they gave them self-determination, and so it came to us. Now, modern Russia has in its composition 21 republic and many more entities on the way to this ...

There are many quite legal organizations that destroy Russia from the sly - such as assistance to small peoples, for the identity of peoples and their culture, etc. who do not allow them to join the monolith of Russian civilization, to become Russians, do not allow them to forget that they are not like everyone else ... but how they "mature" - they will become republics, and then independent ...

I offer Lenin's work "The right of nations to self-determination"be recognized as extremist literature.

[Burmistr]

Or rather, did not have time.

[wax]

I propose to recognize Lenin's work "The Right of Nations to Self-Determination" as extremist literature.

First, Stalin never opposed himself to Lenin and considered him his teacher. Stalin strengthened the USSR, and did not turn it into an empire consisting of provinces, as our "favorite" Zhirinovsky blurs.
Secondly, there are no truths at all times, and especially in specific politics.
Thirdly, what are you going to do with the Crimea - to give it to Bandera? How do you feel about the self-determination of Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Transnistria? Enlighten, non-extremist.

[HollyGremlin]

To be honest, it coincides with the current situation, that I can’t even believe that this is a true quote.

[bomg.77]

Quote: HollyGremlin

To be honest, it coincides with the current situation, that I can’t even believe that this is a true quote.

Stalin, there are a lot of direct, prophetic utterances! This is from a good understanding of the essence of the processes taking place in the world and worldly experience. We forgot it for 6 for years, and during that time they buried the country (((

[shelva]

An unsurpassed expert in the national question. Today, the absence of the likes of Stalin has been replaced by talkers-shitcrats and we are reaping the fruits of their "activity."

[a.hamster55]

Well, I'm not so wise and there is nothing to add.

[Corsair5912]

Liberases do not recognize Marxism, the existence of social classes, the antagonism between classes and the divergence of interests between exploiters and workers.
It is more convenient for operators to rob and deceive people separated by national borders, playing on their national egoism.

[oracul]

And whatever they say, Stalin was a Leader with a capital letter. Everything that happens in Ukraine gives the maximum idea of ​​what flirting with nationalists and fascists leads to. It is their actions that always turn into the blood of the majority. Stalin, on the other hand, defended the interests of working people, and not that part of the Soviet elite, which, even if it came out of the people, tried to arrogate to itself the monopoly right to control, to the well-being of their own and those of their loved ones. The fact that some of the common people became involved in the moloch of repression is a tragedy that inevitably arises when millions of masses come into motion, in the depths of which careerists, traitors, self-seekers, pests, and outright enemies and just random fellow travelers are hiding. Evidence of this is the "Maidan", among the participants of which there are many people, for various reasons, who sincerely believe in the correctness of its organizers and are ready for radical actions. Enlightenment will come, but it will be later and not for everyone.

[Ek.Sektor]

Stalin is truly the greatest patriot of the country and people, his methods were harsh, but thanks to these measures he made a real breakthrough and a miracle, taking a hungry beggarly country into control, brought it to nuclear weapons, the greatest victory in history and made it one of the main forces on the planet .
Joseph Vissarionovich, thank you for your contribution!

[demotivator]

Ukrainian nationalists cannot live in a normal society. For them, the Poles were their enemies, the Jews were their enemies and the Soviet Union was an enemy, and from a certain moment the main enemy. And now there is also Russia and "moskali". I would like to remind you of how he, Ukrainian nationalism grew and developed during the Soviet years. During the Brezhnev period, Ukrainians were disproportionately represented in two population groups. Firstly, among the nomenklatura, and they, together with the Russians, ruled the Soviet Union, and secondly, among political prisoners. And they fell into the last category just for nationalism. But even at the level of official policy, one can see Ukrainian nationalism (in the nomenclature version). And this despite the fact that the last Bandera bandits, hiding in the forests in Ukraine, were suppressed only in the late 1950s, and in 1944 alone, the NKVD killed more than 50 thousand Ukrobandits. Note - the war was still going on! What do Ukrainian nationalists want today, what are their ideals?
Their ideal is well reflected in the Ukrainian anthem, which was written in the second half of the XNUMXth century. “They will knock down our vorozhniki” and “we will pan ourselves on our side” - It was in many ways a peasant anthem: there will be no Polish lord, there will be no Moscow official ... There will be no Jew who owes money to someone. And we will be, and everything will be wonderful. Ukraine should be Ukrainian, should admire Bandera, should be united and mobilized, and the nation above all. The trouble is that in the modern world this ideal is not feasible. And it is very dangerous when the ideal diverges from what is possible. It is always fraught with war.

[Muadipus]

their belts are soviet - somehow it’s not kosher))))

[ale-x]

Are they (harnesses) really made of pigskin?

[individual]

“No, we are doing the right thing so severely punishing nationalists of all stripes and colors.

All right.
But the growth of national consciousness leads to the growth of nationalism and there is nothing to be done about it.
On this, the national elite makes its policy in power.
The more developed the society, the less nationalism.
Russia is surrounded by states where the authorities encourage nationalism and need years and years of evolutionary development to make this infection a thing of the past.

[afdjhbn67]

interesting opinion of the Jewish community of Ukraine, Russian hoods poorly bite off but there is no guarantee against pogroms

[Standard Oil]

For the USSR or Russia, as for a multinational state, nationalism is generally fatal, the Anglo-Saxons still found an "Achilles heel", and now this is further aggravated simply by the total corruption of power and the general decline of Russian culture, as the fundamental and fastening one. "60 years ago. And in general, nationalism has never led to anything good. I think soon there will be pressure on the national communities within Russia, they say," Enough to live under the yoke of Moscow ", and on the Russians themselves, they say," Stop feeding the Caucasus "and so on ...

[Boris55]

Quote: Standard Oil

For the USSR or Russia, as for a multinational state, nationalism is generally fatal

In the world there are no states of only one nationality.

The West perceives the inhabitants of Russia (about two hundred nationalities) all as Russians. In China, whose inhabitants we perceive as all Chinese, there are about 32 nationalities. In the Western countries themselves, the situation is exactly the same.

Nationalism is one of the instruments for managing countries and peoples. The most recent good example is the activation of the Crimean Tatars to please the West.

[alexis]

It’s time for Russia to recall a forgotten Tatu song about Yugoslavia so that later it would not be necessary to compose a song about Ukraine

[BYKOV BORIS ARKADIEVICH]

Not only Stalin but Khrushchev would have stamped his boot so that he would shut up the Maidan along with Europe and the Americans.

[Platov]

"Stalin did not become a thing of the past, he disappeared into the future." Wise words of de Gaulle. Only "Stalin" can pull out of this swamp or swamp area.

[Weniamin]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Oddly enough, but under the autocracy there was no such problem.

Autocracy is not so simple either. It rested on three pillars - the monarchy, the church and the secret office.

And according to the article - great words. Still relevant.

[Auralski]

Well said and to the place. I am not a Stalinist, but a plus to Stalin.
National swagger is not doing well.

[sigizmund472]

The Leader looked far away. In my opinion, he saw through it all shenderovichs through and through ...

[Marisat]

Let's start with the fact that here Stalin is not an innovator. This thought generally runs a red thread in the creation of the Russian Empire. And the words are just wonderful. It is necessary to find the source, because Citizen Stalin himself did not really recommend himself, and many cannot distantly look at his deeds.
After that, you can safely raise the banners. and I'm not joking.

[Corsair5912]

Quote: Marisat

Let's start with the fact that here Stalin is not an innovator. This thought generally runs a red thread in the creation of the Russian Empire. And the words are just wonderful. It is necessary to find the source, because Citizen Stalin himself did not really recommend himself, and many cannot distantly look at his deeds.

In the Russian Empire, nationalism and separatism were an acute problem, including Ukrainian nationalism. Only then did Bandera be called differently haidamaks. But they also fought with the Russians against the Poles, then with the Poles against the Russians, became famous for the brutal reprisals against the civilian population.

[platitsyn70]

"Right Sector" intends to return to Ukraine part of Poland

KIEV, February 27. Members of the organization "Right Sector" intend to return some Polish territories to Ukraine.

The press secretary of the organization Andriy Tarasenko said this in an interview with the Polish edition "Rzeczpospolita" Answering the question of how fair they ("Right Sector" - Approx. "Rosbalt") consider the current borders of Ukraine, Tarasenko stressed that their task, as nationalists, is to unite and return ethnic lands "where Ukrainians lived for several thousand years".

"After the war, as a result of Operation Vistula, Ukrainians were expelled from these lands, so ethnic justice dictates that these lands should be returned to Ukraine. I am talking about Przemysl and a number of other regions," Tarasenko said. A member of the "Right Sector" also noted that they intend to return the land using diplomatic methods. "We are not an imperial power, we do not intend to take foreign lands, we only want to take what belongs to us," Tarasenko said.

He also noted that Ukraine's place is not in the European Union, since "that would be contrary to the idea of ​​a nation-state."
Read more: http://www.rosbalt.ru/ukraina/2014/02/27/1238245.html


here the statements went, as they say, For which Europeans fought, they ran into something. Let conclusions be drawn.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: platitsyn70

A member of the "Right Sector" also noted that they intend to return the land using diplomatic methods.

If such "diplomats" as Tarasenko conduct diplomatic work in Ukraine, then I am afraid there will be nowhere to return the "ethnic" lands. A country of not frightened idiots.

[nikcris]

Hooray! On a trip to the Vistula - get-get.
And what, the maydanauts of the mental hospital dismissed? Or have they not had them there since independence?

[saag]

excellent work from the "Right Sector", bravo guys, keep up the good work and you will bury yourself :-)

[Known who]

As the water looked

[saag]

one more news "Katherine Ashton disappeared in Kiev0" http://politobzor.net/show-14075-v-kieve-propala-ketrin-eshton.html
if this is the work of the "Right Sector" then it really turns out "Make the fool pray to God and he will break his forehead"

[Leprechaun]

They especially succeeded in inciting ethnic hatred and setting some peoples against other British.

Hmm ... Mustachioed looked into the water ...

[nikcris]

And what did you mean by that? And where is the denomination of the brand? And just fart here dofiga people are able and I including

[densh]

Stalin was not the first. And in the Russian Empire, thinking people warned against including Galicia in its structure. In the above privacy, PN Durnovo He wrote this before the seizure of Lviv region, which before that had been Polish and sometimes Austro-Hungarian land for 600 years (1914)

“For us, in the name of the idea of ​​national sentimentalism, it’s obviously unprofitable to attach to our homeland a region that has lost any living connection with it. After all, for an insignificant handful of Russians in the spirit of the Galicians, how much will we get Poles, Jews, Ukrainized Uniates? The so-called Ukrainian or Mazepa movement is not scary for us now, but we should not let it grow, increasing the number of restless Ukrainian elements, since in this movement there is an undeniable germ of extremely dangerous Little Russian separatism, which, under favorable conditions, can reach completely unexpected proportions. ”
And he turned out to be right-scum provided all the conditions. The result is on the face.

[shark]

If there are guys from the special services. Here's what I got - Transcript of the conversation Tyagnibok and Yarosh. Intimate talk.

The press became information about the meeting of the leaders of the All-Ukrainian Association "Freedom" Oleg Tyagnibok and the Ukrainian nationalist movement "Right Sector" Dmitry Yarosh.

The meeting took place on February 25 in a small fashionable Kiev restaurant "Turgenef" on Bolshaya Zhytomyr. The fact that they met in such a private setting confirms the important character and confidentiality of the conversation. Without disclosing details of exactly how our record of the conversation took place, we note only that the representatives of the security services of the opposition leaders worked quite professionally. Only an accident prevented them from preventing the “leakage of information”, and the Ukrainian public to look behind the curtain of the political scene in Ukraine.

Introducing the abbreviated version of the transcript of the conversation

......................

D. Yarosh: Oleg, you already understood that you and I will soon be “thrown”. Well, I’m unlikely, for me, “Maidan”, and you sure.

O. Tyagnibok: It will be difficult, “Freedom” is now in the lead.

D. Yarosh: That's right now. They will not let Freedom go to power. a Jew with broken brain (V. Klitschko - approx.ed.) and Yatsenyuk pushed you away. They already began to crush Julia. I saw that "1 + 1" about Zhenya (we are talking about the daughter of Yulia Tymoshenko Evgenia - approx. Ed.) Showed? How would you react if you showed this about your Darinka? Dirt is continuous. It's only the beginning.

O. Tyagnibok: Do you know about Evgeny exactly?

D. Yarosh: Yes. Martynenko personally set the task, and behind him Yatsenyuk stands.

O. Tyagnibok: Does Yulia Vladimirovna know about this?

D. Yarosh: I think he knows.

O. Tyagnibok: What do you suggest?

D. Yarosh: Everything is very simple. Our goals coincide. We both stand for Ukraine without the Jews and, I am the Nazi face, ov. You will help me, I will help you. Turchinov, Yatsenyuk, the “boxer”, and Julia too, think, first of all, how to get the money. And Julia also avenged the "well-wishers" for prison. So from them more harm than good.

O. Tyagnibok: What do you expect from me?

D. Yarosh: Oleg, I don’t need any power or money. If I wanted them, I would already have everything. I want to make Ukraine for Ukrainians. Now I need the position of the head of the SBU (Security Service of Ukraine - approx. Ed.). And the connections of the Ukrainian “bespeka” with me need to be cleaned up, otherwise they know a lot about us. Help, we will work together.

O. Tyagnibok: The fact that your guys want to put you on the SBU, I heard, but did not think it was true. Why do you need it? Go to politics. Your support is powerful.

[smersh70]

Quote: shark

If there are guys from the special services.

Yes the record must be checked. Credibility. And then Erdogan is blackmailed by 3 records, but as checked, it turned out to be a fake.
Now, about the question, I doubt that the protection of the opposition leaders has such equipment. All the same, the FSB’s ears are visible))) this is called a leak in order to discredit political opponents.
And if you delve into the conversation, if it is normal, the leaders are not fluffy, they are also party leaders who are fighting for power. Each puts forward its own conditions. The goal of the party is to come to power. This is an axiom. And why are parties created to play football

[shark]

This is a transcript of the conversation between Tyanibok and Yarosh. February 25, 2014. Fully here (in the comments) -http: //www.sevastopol.su/news.php? Id = 57924

D. Yarosh: In politics? What for? To wear a beautiful jacket? I already have strength. Time ended when we indulged in slingshots. Now I have so many weapons that it’s enough to break the ridges of all the “internal invaders”. Having the SBU resource, I, with my guys, will put things in order in the beginning, “I’m a Nazi muzzle, shchina” (eastern and south-eastern regions of Ukraine - approx. Ed.) And in Crimea. From Sevastopol, I am the Nazi face, we ourselves will run away. Make the ground burn under their feet. We’ll start strangling the sailor in the nooks, we’ll blow up a couple of ships. They will run as cute and they will take their henchmen with them! I will crush all evil spirits. In parallel, I will begin to “rustle” in the Voronezh, Belgorod and Kursk regions. We will prepare battle groups from the Tatars and send them to the Caucasus to help Imarat. This can be done by Sashko Muzychko. He has experience. Chechens respect him. There are connections. The more “she” will have problems, the less they will get to us. We will strengthen and stand on our feet at this time

O. Tyagnibok: You have plans like Napoleon.

D. Yarosh: No, not like Bandera.

O. Tyagnibok: And if, I am a Nazi face, we will rise in Ukraine? In Donetsk, Kharkov, Sevastopol there are many of them. "Regionals" and "Komunyaki" still have not swallowed their teeth.

D. Yarosh: They will swallow and drink Yushka. Here, I think, quietly remove the most violent. The rest will calm down.

[xan]

Quote: shark

D. Yarosh: They will swallow and drink Yushka. Here, I think, quietly remove the most violent. The rest will calm down.

Any action against Russians and Russian speakers, and a reverse report will be included. Yarosh already now need to avoid sorting.
In general, it looks like a fake.

[Soldier dusty]

Once again convinced of the excellent mind and reason of Stalin! this is a man!

[Kuvabatake]

Right under Stalin had to work. There was no time to hesitate and nationally recognized lying on the couch ... With it, the entire Maidan would be collected and sent to the construction sites of the five-year plan to be recognized ....

[valokordin]

Let me remind you again. The enemy is cunning and treacherous, our cause is just, the enemy will be defeated, victory will be ours.

[Dimon-chik-79]

It’s not necessary to move out to the nation and look for evil there, dumping all the troubles that are happening. The authorities do not need to tear themselves away from the people! And the Ukrainian tragedy is the clearest example of this. High officials of this country were concerned only with their welfare, and not with ordinary citizens. During their reign, the country was mired in corruption in theft, slipping into the abyss of devastation and poverty. This is the main reason for what happened. Revolution and fascism as a consequence of criminal policies towards their own people.

[x.andvlad]

"Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!" Another confirmation of Stalin's wisdom. This document is more relevant today than ever.

[Dimon-chik-79]

By the way, the national republics themselves are the leaders of the Bolshevik party and muddied. And they did not change the situation when they ruled the country with an iron hand.
But all the same, there is no need to spread rot and plunder the people, I use it only as a resource without caring about its well-being and observing the rule of law for all, regardless of the ranks.

[smersh70]

No one noticed one thing - could Stalin on March 26, 1941 say, “In the event of an attack by Nazi Germany.” It’s hard to believe, given how he was anxious about the Non-Aggression Pact and how directives and orders were given to the troops that Germany was our friend and ally, and not a word about her attack. All talk about this was completely stopped. In any case, you need to look at the source.

[calocha]

And why were factories in the west of Belarus and Ukraine dismantled shortly before the war ?! They were taken to the Urals and beyond the Urals ... As early as 30, Stalin said that the war was inevitable .... it was delayed as much as possible ... ..

[smersh70]

Quote: calocha

factories in the west of Belarus and Ukraine were dismantled shortly before the war

not at this time, but when the war was already on. There is a GKO Decree, look at the date

[nikcris]

Yes Yes. They, the factories, were built in 1940, and then they were dismantled and taken away to the damned masks. And all for the hryvnia.
Here cure is impossible a priori. There is only one way out - eftanasia.
To the south of us - the Mordvo-Tatars, did this crazy-witted people surrender at their side?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: smersh70

No one noticed one thing - could Stalin on March 26, 1941 say, "In the event of an attack by Nazi Germany."

Well, now it’s already said that somehow the top is not competence, there are already a lot of documents that clearly and clearly describe the events preceding the outbreak of war

[smersh70]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, now it’s somehow said the top is not competence

I'm not talking about now .. look at the date of Stalin's interview, under the article - "In the event of a German attack on the Soviet Union, people of different nationalities inhabiting our country will defend it, not sparing their lives, as their beloved Motherland." . Stalin - Complete Works. Volume 15, "Conversation with AS Yakovlev March 26, 1941", p. 17

[wax]

By the way, excellent material in volume 15. Here it is in PDF:
http://www.razumei.ru/files/others/pdf/Stalin_Sobranie_soch_tom15.pdf
All questions of the present are answered by Stalin and Lenin. It is only necessary to read them themselves, and not interpreters, who are either idiots, or liberals, or enemies, because thinkers and patriots do not interpret them, but quote them.

[nikcris]

I am always struck by stupid people ...
You replace "Germany" with "Japan", "Britain".
But stupid people are always right - they have help. I even built an elevator for them - from the first floor to the second. If it (the elevator) will work, you will have to hire a couple of electricians.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

iii, further?
I do not quite understand you

[valokordin]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

Well, now it’s already said that somehow the top is not competence, there are already a lot of documents that clearly and clearly describe the events preceding the outbreak of war

Marshal Vasilenko, do not distort the facts. The article does not contain the words "In the event of an attack by Nazi Germany" In this, I noticed that your message is a way to question what Stalin said. Open the collected work of I.V. Stalin there everything is written Feldarshal.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Excuse me for what ?!
what exactly did I distort?
in fact, there was talk that Stalin allegedly did not expect an attack by Germany

[wax]

Take a look. The source is here http://www.razumei.ru/lastlib/otherbooks/296
Opens in PDF. This is a conversation with aircraft designer Yakovlev in the office. By the way, the validity of the conclusion of a non-aggression pact with Hitler Germany because of the military backwardness of the USSR as of that time was clearly confirmed there.

[nikcris]

Stalin didn’t say such shit. Where did you unearth this?

[nikcris]

Stalin was the only one in a bunch of Bolsheviks who was categorically against the formation of republics on a national basis. For this, grandfather Lenin put him from the rostrum. Democratic centralism then worked. Today we reap democracy without centralism.

[santush]

The greatest man I.V. Stalin, it turns out, back in the spring of 1941, said that Natsik should be kept in check ... And Yanukovych flirted with them. Now the consequences for Ukraine are not yet known!

[parus2nik]

And where is J.V. Stalin wrong ..? It was necessary to crush the Natsiks during the "Perestroika" operation .. but Tagged, did not do everything to collapse ..

[groin]

A person of any nationality can be Russian, just like I.V. Stalin himself. Russian is a state of mind and character. All Russianness is multinational.

[nikcris]

I have the flag of Kazakhstan, I shake my hand - I'm trying to hammer this heresy about Russianness. Russian is an adjective. Barlay de Tolly, Kruzenshtern, Miklouho Maclay, Przhevalsky, Bagration - not really not Russians?

[groin]

Of course, you bent into the heresy account. But honestly, there are a lot of Russians (by passport) who have no other nationalities in their family? Those whom I know (Russian) who just don’t belong to the family, even Negroes. Most of them are mixed with Russian, Ukrainian, Tatar, Chechen, Turkish, Belarusian blood, Italian grandmother (I found out when I was looking for my roots). And I am Russian and I’m from the passport , and by birth, and in spirit. And no one will forbid me to respect the above nationalities. I am an internationalist, and you?

[Semen Semyonitch]

UNIAN, citing an informed source, reports that a missile boat of the Black Sea Fleet (Black Sea Fleet) of the Russian Federation approached the external raid of the Balaklava Bay near Sevastopol. Thus, the exit from the bay to the sea to the ships and boats of Ukrainian border guards was actually blocked. In addition, another armored personnel carrier of the Russian Black Sea Fleet appeared on the streets of the city of Sevastopol - on Ushakov Square, near the building of the Sailor Club of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation. The news agency noted that it was not possible to clarify the information in the press service of the Black Sea Fleet.
Russian tanks are located 15 km from the border with Ukraine. It is reported by Interfax-Ukraine, citing a source in the military districts. “The Russian side informed us that within the framework of the exercises, military equipment will be located near the border with Ukraine,” the source said.
The press service of the Black Sea Fleet (Black Sea Fleet) of Russia has denied information about the involvement of Russian troops in blocking the Belbek airfield near Sevastopol. It is reported by Lenta.ru with reference to Interfax. The representative of the Russian Black Sea Fleet noted that anti-terror units provide security for Russian troops and their families located in Crimea.

[colonel manuch]

JV Stalin often began to remember everyone, they started talking about the lost priorities of socialism, in short, "we do not keep what we have, having lost crying" I myself was convinced how many times that the principle of building the USSR proposed by Stalin was the most real and correct, the formation of a Federation with national republics initially became a delayed-action mine (world experience has shown that separatist sentiments will always smolder in them) Russia, now, the federal structure only interferes with development, so an urgent need to return to the provincial division, with the basic principle: before the law, everyone is equal! This is exactly what V.V. Zhirinovsky proposes.

[jack1]

Zhirinovsky will never reach Stalin. And he will not become president.

[Vital 33]

Is there anything on this site about military equipment ??????? !!!

[nikola77797]

Eat a lot.

[Manul]

Quote: Vital 33

Is there anything on this site about military equipment ??????? !!!

We look at the tabs at the top.

[repytw]

Military personnel of the Russian Black Sea Fleet are blocking entries to the Headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy in Sevastopol (Crimea). This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.
The Ministry of Defense states that the entry is blocked by two Ural military vehicles with 40 military personnel.

In addition, the State Border Service of Ukraine said that 30 armed marines blocked the naval guard unit of the State Border Service in Sevastopol.

“On the morning of February 28, an attempt was made to block the Sevastopol Maritime Guard Unit of the State Border Service of Ukraine. About 30 armed persons who did not introduce themselves arrived in the Sevastopol Marine Guard Unit in four vehicles, ”it was informed.

The agency emphasizes that the border guards identified these persons as military personnel of the 810th Marine Brigade of the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Military Black Sea Fleet located in front of the checkpoint of the detachment and surrounded all the approaches, at the heights around the detachment there are snipers.

Later, the head of a group of Russian servicemen, Alexander Tolmachev, arrived at the checkpoint, who stated that his subordinates were fulfilling the requirements of the so-called Crimean Security Council’s decree to prevent extremists from seizing weapons.

The State Border Service notes that after negotiations with the detachment commander, Russian servicemen moved 25 meters from the checkpoint and are conducting surveillance.

In addition, the Russian Black Sea Fleet “Ivanovets” missile boat stopped at a distance of 5 cables from the shore on the roads of Balaklava Bay, allegedly due to engine failure.

Recall that on the morning of February 28, in the morning, a missile boat of the Russian Black Sea Fleet approached the outer raid of the Balaklava Bay near Sevastopol and blocked the exit to the Ukrainian border ships.

The State Border Service also informs that on Friday, during the state border protection, a technical monitoring post monitored a flight from the Kerch direction at an altitude of up to 1 kilometer over 10 Russian military helicopters to Ukraine.

The agency emphasizes that three helicopters were issued at the Kacha airfield, for which the corresponding application of the Russian Black Sea Fleet was filed, and other helicopters that crossed the state border violated the requirements of the relevant bilateral agreements.

[kirqiz ssr]

Stalin is a smart man.

[tomcat117]

I agree with every word of the Great Stalin.
And they are trying to trample him into the dirt, but this is not possible. His thoughts are eternal and are confirmed in our lives. It was Bandera’s followers and pathetic spies who destroyed Ukraine and threw it back to 1917. The saddest thing is that the people of Ukraine do not yet understand this; sobering up will be very scary. This is the death of a large Slavic state in the capacity in which it existed after the collapse of the USSR. It's a pity that history teaches no one anything!

[Captain45]

“However, the nationalists should not be underestimated. If they are allowed to act with impunity, they will bring a lot of trouble. That is why they must be kept in an iron rein, and not allowed to undermine the unity of the Soviet Union.”
IV Stalin - Complete Works. Volume 15, "Conversation with A.S. Yakovlev 26 March 1941 of the Year ", C. 17
The leader was perspicacious, he saw decades ahead, it’s a pity he just didn’t see Khrushch’s so..u..k..y. I recently read the book by E. Prudnikova “The Last Battle of Lavrenty Beria”, I even find it difficult to determine the genre, something like historical and artistic documentary research. So there, one of the reasons for the murder of Lavrenty Palych, the author believes that he still discerned the vile essence of Khrushchev and his desire back in the 50s to destroy the USSR, for which purpose to create a separate communist party in the RSFSR - the “Leningrad affair”, break away from Ukraine and Belarus. It was not for nothing that, together with Beria, they shot the leaders of the MGB of Ukraine and Belarus, apparently the men dug in close, but didn’t have time. Khrushchev outplayed them. It must be admitted that Beria at that time was completely involved in the atomic project and began to deal with the topic of Khrushchev only after his death Stalin, and the leadership of the MGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs were Khrushchev’s cronies Ignatiev and Serov.

[homosum20]

Everything changes, even the climate. The seas are drying up. But how little people change.

[ia-ai00]

Well what can I say? Stalin was an intelligent man, his genius was recognized even by his enemies.

Three years after the party apparatchiks in the USSR unleashed the mongrels of history and journalism on Stalin, after the entire delighted West picked up the anti-Stalin hysteria, the outstanding anti-communist Churchill, on his own behalf and on behalf of the late President F. Roosevelt, said 21 December 1959, in his speech in the House of Commons on the eve of the 80th anniversary of Stalin’s birth:

“It was great happiness for Russia that during the years of the most difficult trials the country was led by genius and the unshakable commander Stalin. He was the most outstanding personality, appealing to our changing and cruel times of the period in which his whole life took place.

А judahwho are not worth his salt have dared to pour dirt on him for several decades.

[nomad74]

I offer Lenin's work "The right of nations to self-determination"recognized as extremist literature.[/quote]

I completely agree! First we are all Russian! or the Russians! and only then Tatars, Chechens, Muslims, Buddhists and so on! Otherwise, we won’t survive; they will cut us down according to our national ambitions! and destroy!

[Brave]

The words are still relevant today for Russia

[konvalval]

Some "specialists" in national politics denounced Stalin's national policy. Here's to you "smart guys" greetings from Ukraine.

[uizik]

At one time, the head of the GRU of the General Staff of the USSR Armed Forces, Hero of the Soviet Union, Army General P.I. Ivashutin, said that the descendants of the undead Banderaites would create quite a few problems when they became adults.

[Yarik]

Quote: valokordin
constitutional monarchy under a weak ruler = it's like a toy
Everything is fixable. The king distributes the nobility. As a rule to associates.
(A subtle allusion to our "king" and his "associates".)

We should also distribute nobility to our “companions”...perhaps this is the only thing that our “companions” do not have. It’s disgusting to hear.

[DPN]

Quote: Simon

President, the president is different. One betrays his people and state, the other drunk dances, sings and clowns the whole world, that the whole earth trembles with laughter, disgracing our people, and the third pulls the state out of the pit and makes it strong.

This means the conclusion: We the people ourselves are no good, we cannot distinguish a rogue and drunk from a normal person, and we can destroy our state for Western fairy tales.

[smith7]

Article plus... But times have not changed. Here is Dostoevsky during the Russian-Turkish war in 1877.
“Russia must seriously prepare for the fact that all these liberated Slavs will enthusiastically rush to Europe, become infected with European forms, political and social, until they lose their personality, and thus will have to go through a whole, long period of Europeanism before comprehending anything in its Slavic meaning and in its special Slavic calling among humanity. These inhabitants of the earth will forever quarrel among themselves, forever envy each other and intrigue against each other. Of course, in a moment of some serious trouble, they will all certainly turn to Russia for help. No matter how they hate, gossip and slander us to Europe, flirting with it and assuring it of love, they will always feel instinctively (of course, in a moment of trouble, and not before) that Europe is the natural enemy of their unity, was they will always remain, and what if they exist in the world, then, of course, because there is a huge magnet - Russia, which, irresistibly attracting them all to itself, thereby restrains their integrity and unity...." Dostoevsky Fyodor Mikhailovich. Writer's Diary. September - December 1877.
PS I apologize if I re-quoted the wrong one...

[Vadim12]

Stalin was very right, history repeated itself. In the West, Russia is an enemy, whose resources, after its dismemberment, these scoundrels dream of taking advantage of. If we screw up the fifth column, we will greatly regret it. I watched a film on NTV about them going to the embassy as if they were going to work.

[Shur]

Comrade IV Stalin seemed to have written a message here, in the subject... definitely.

[miland]

Stalin was a wise and patriotic man! The words spoken confirm what he knew - war can no longer be avoided... and only by uniting will we win.

Quote: The cherished dream of nationalists is to split the Soviet Union into separate “national” states, and then it will become easy prey for enemies...

It seems that the West, in particular NATO, has taken upon itself to fulfill the dream of the nationalists. And against all unwanted countries.

[wbigfire]

The power, oddly enough, should be Soviet. That is, elected, but rely not on one political party, but on many, including national and patriotic social movements. The opportunity to run should be limited by property, educational and other qualifications, as well as by having only one citizenship. Councils must be hierarchical. The top one, on whom decision-making depends, is small in number, but without the right to own initiative. That is, consider only the questions proposed below. This kind of power will be stable, have continuity, and be aimed at the interests of the country.

[Vladimir73]

Such power will not be sustainable. Example - 1917 February Revolution. There is a complete lack of initiative from above and many proposals from below.
Sometimes you have to act quickly and harshly - there is no time to gain initiative from below.

[Natalya Krasulya]

We know so little about Stalin...

[Luizadrevs]

Thank you for your publication.... We need to do this more often, otherwise some individuals of the species Homo sapiens forget that they are mortal and do not listen to those who have already passed away, as they deserve...

[Tatiana Sarana]

It’s as if he’s talking about the present tense...