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On the way to the “First Ukrainian War”. On the prospects of Little Russia

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On the way to the “First Ukrainian War”. On the prospects of Little Russia

With the support of the "fifth column", the West successfully conducted an operation to seize Kiev. The current Ukrainian "elite" in the person of Tymoshenko, Klitschko, Yatsenyuk, Tyagnibok, Turchinov, Avakov and neobander's evil spirits are the outspoken henchmen of the West, the new Gauleiters and the policemen in the occupied part of Russian civilization (Great Russia). If the former Kiev leaders — Kravchuk, Kuchma, Yushchenko, and Yanukovich — still pretended to be in charge of an “independent state,” now all masks are dropped.


The masters of the western project have successfully implemented four stages to destroy one of the ethnic nuclei of the super-ethnos Rus, Little Russia (South-Western Russia). At the first stage - from the moment of the Polish occupation, when South-Western Russia fell into the sphere of influence of the Vatican, the process of creating the matrix of "Ukrainian identity" began. The main work was carried out by the Vatican, Poland and Austria-Hungary. “Ukrainians” during this period were few, but the most important thing was done - they created a small, passionary minority. "Virus", which struck a huge healthy body.

At the second stage, the hidden opponents of Great Russia, the “Trotskyists-internationalists” like Khrushchev, legalized “Ukraine”, not only creating the Ukrainian SSR, but also generously cutting lands into it that were not part of South-Western Russia: Novorossia, Crimea, and so on. . At the same time, the process of nesting Ukrainian intelligentsia and the language was actively pursued.

At the third stage, in 1991, the indigenous Russian lands inhabited by our direct ancestors from time immemorial, since the time of Great Scythia (Great Scythia and superethnos Rus) and the rule of the Aryans in Northern Eurasia, were cut off from Russia by creating an artificial and ephemeral state "Ukraine". As a result, Russian hero cities (Kiev, Odessa, Sevastopol, Kerch), and others, dear to our hearts, are symbols of the great stories Rus-Russia (Chernigov, Poltava, Kharkov, etc.) found themselves in an “independent state”. It was a time of confusion, full of information and ideological domination of our enemies. For more than twenty years, there has been an active process of desovetization and de-Russification, with the simultaneous robbery of the Soviet legacy. As a result, whole generations of Rus were raised, who sincerely consider themselves "Ukrainians".

Literally before our eyes, the hosts of the West conducted another operation. The power has now passed to the frank enemies of the Russian civilization and the super-ethnos of the Rus. Came the fourth stage. All masks are reset. The Anglo-Saxon branch of the Western project set a course for the creation in Ukraine of a neo-Nazi Russophobic public education whose main goal will be a war with Russia and the Russian people on all fronts. (from the ideological front to participation in various conflicts inspired within the Russian Federation). The German-Romance branch of the Western project is in favor of a milder absorption option for Ukraine, but it loses to London and Washington. Suffice it to say that Germany still does not have full sovereignty and is occupied by the Americans.

Under this neo-Nazi government, Ukraine will be cleared of remnants of the Russian language and culture, and at the same time the de-Sovietisation of state education will be completed. The symbols of the new stage in the history of Little Russia are the destruction of the monuments to Lenin, the Soviet soldier-liberator and Kutuzov. What will happen next? See what happened in the Baltic States and Georgia. Only the scale will be different. Russians who do not want to become “Ukrainians” will be actively ousted to Russia (“the suitcase - the railway station - Moscow”). Their remnants will turn into people of "second grade" ...

Perhaps, with the active development of neo-Nazism, we will once again see elements of the Hitler Reich - the Russians will become an outcast minority, who will be forbidden to hold public office, resettled in the ghetto, etc. For the time being, Neanderís are the most powerful force in Ukraine. They have an ideology, that is, they are ready to fight, kill and die for an idea, and this is power. Their temporary allies from the Ukrainian "elite", the liberals and the oligarchy, have no ideology. The cult of the "golden calf" will not be able to resist the big idea. In addition, Neobanderovtsy - this is a military structure. As you know, during the revolutionary turmoil "the rifle gives rise to power." Supporters of Klitschko, Tymoshenko, Ukrainian oligarchs will not be able to resist the neo-Nazi militants.

Following the example of all revolutions, it is known that Those who have an ideology, a program, political will and military power will take power. Neobanderovtsy all have it. Moreover, their 20 years have been preparing for war. They already fought against us during the first Chechen campaign. But now they are not small groups, but an entire army that they have been preparing for many years to fight “imperial Moscow”. In fact, the leader of the “Right Sector”, Dmitry Yarosh, is the most real political leader of the future neo-Nazi Ukraine. Neobanderovtsy did not allow representatives of liberal and moderate nationalist "elites" to agree with Yanukovych. Obviously, Klitschko, Yatsenyuk and their ilk were ready to negotiate with Yanukovych. But the Neo-Bandera didn't let them do it. They went to storm the government. Under pressure from the “global community,” Yanukovych surrendered Berkut, Kiev, and power. He could not follow the path of Milosevic, Gaddafi and Assad. The wrong type of person. The slave of the "golden calf", as well showed exposing footage from his residence "Mezhigorye".

Compared with other Ukrainian political figures, Yarosh is a real leader with ideals. All the rest are political puppets, parsley. Now the situation is reminiscent of 1917 year - the Provisional Government (Rada) and the radicals (neoberderovtsy). Ukraine has a classical dual power, a parliament, the central authorities and the Nazi radicals, which is rapidly losing influence and power. At the same time, the margins are falling away. Crimea and the Southeast as a whole against the Neo-Banderes and Western puppets. Although so far the resistance has no clear structures. Local officials and oligarchs are ready to “negotiate” with Kiev, that is, to surrender the Russian population. The first attempts to “merge” are already there, but this causes the just anger of the people, and resistance increases.

Given that Ukraine faces an economic default and a social catastrophe, when the garden will be the source of survival for the majority of the population, the liberal-nationalist government cannot do anything. As for objective reasons (no one will give money, and if they do, they will give a little, and they will be stolen), and because of a personnel shortage. Virtually all of today's cadres are thieves, corrupt officials, talkers, dilettantes like Klitschko who understand nothing of management. Therefore, the growth of radical sentiment provided. Yarosh and other neo-Nazis will easily direct popular discontent against internal enemies, first “enemies of the Maidan” (repressions have already begun), then liberals, too moderate nationalists and oligarchs. Possible and nationalization.

Neobanderovtsy are outspoken enemies of the Russian civilization, the Russian people, "fighting zombies", ready to pour blood all over for the sake of their ideals. Their coming to power is the opening of the “Ukrainian Front”, the beginning of the “First Ukrainian War”.

As has been said before, Russia and the Russian people are lined up like a big beast. In the southern strategic direction, a fire was lit - in a vast area, from Central and North Africa to Afghanistan and Pakistan. In the near future, the “Central Asian Spring” will begin. Corrupt and weak Central Asian regimes will not withstand the coordinated attack of local liberals, nationalists who want to get rid of the remnants of "Sovietness" and "Russianness", and Islamists. The masses, dissatisfied with a bunch of socio-economic problems, will join them. "Afghan factor" will add problems. The Caucasus is also under attack. Karabakh is already prepared for war, good provocation - and the South Caucasus will flare up. In the North Caucasus, the situation is also difficult. The North Caucasus region with its neglected problems is another “mine” under Russia.

Simultaneously we got the "Ukrainian Front". The West took advantage of a diversionary maneuver - the Olympiad, and created on our south-western borders a rapidly expanding crater of chaos. The moment was chosen very well. All the attention and strength of Moscow was focused on the Olympics. Russia held a world-class event and could not lose face. Moscow did not interfere in the “February revolution” in Ukraine. The intervention violated the ancient Olympic principle of abandoning wars during games.

In addition, Russia in recent years repeats the mistakes of the Russian Empire. Unlike the West, which easily violates all formal agreements (for example, the West “threw” Yanukovych), Moscow adheres to the concept of legitimism. They say that the events in Kiev are an internal affair of the Ukrainian authorities, and we do not interfere. As a result, the West calmly did everything he wanted in Kiev. I remember that the Russian Empire under the rule of Alexander I and Nicholas I acted in a similar way, supporting the principle of legitimism in Europe. That is how the Austrian empire was saved - instead of dismembering it and creating new Slavic states under the Russian protectorate. The result was sad: the Eastern (Crimean) war, where the then “world community” came out against Russia.

The West has created a “fork” (trap) for Russia. If Russia interferes in the affairs of Ukraine - bad. Does not interfere - even worse. To intervene in Ukrainian affairs is to cause an outburst of hatred among Ukrainians, who consider themselves to be a separate people, and Ukraine to be an “independent state.” Neobanderovtsy consolidate the "image of the enemy" in the minds of Ukrainians. For the entire global community, Russia will become the personification of Mordor. Already, a significant portion of the world's media blames Russia for the Ukrainian events.

It fits perfectly into the plans for the final destruction of the Russian civilization. Russia will be blamed for all sins, aggression. In the West, they have long been creating the image of “infernal Russia,” “Russian orcs,” and “Russian Mordor.” Intervention in the affairs of Ukraine, even the most gentle, is used for large-scale Russophobic information campaign.

The West has already prepared everything for confrontation along the West-East line. Washington has become so impudent that he warned Russia against military intervention in Ukraine’s affairs. US National Security Advisor Susan Rice called the "serious mistake" possible military intervention of the Russian Federation in the affairs of Ukraine. 26 February NATO declared its intention to "support the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and the principle of the inviolability of the borders of Ukraine." This was stated in a special statement of the defense ministers of the countries of the alliance. Thus, NATO officially supported the Ukrainian Nazis.

However, by the Georgian example, and other historical examples (it suffices to recall Poland in the 1939 year and the “strange war” waged by France and England), we are well aware that the West will never fight for its puppets. London and Washington love to use "cannon fodder" in wars. Such a role was prepared by the “Ukrainians” who they want to confront with the Russians in a fratricidal war. With tough actions of Russia, which will defend its national interests, everything will be limited to hysterics. In general, it is not worth listening to what they say in Warsaw, Berlin, Brussels, London and Washington. They will try to “blab out” the problem while their puppets “clean up” Ukraine.

But Ukraine has become a battlefield not the fault of Russia. The West has launched the process of “resetting” not the Arab, but the Russian world, which is now meekly waiting for its turn to the slaughter. In essence, this is a civilizational defeat and the coming departure of Russians from the world arena, which will become the ethnic material for more successful global projects.

At the same time, the internal problems of the modern Russian world are enormous. And the system errors, miscalculations, theft and degradation of personnel of the modern Russian “elite” have greatly undermined the internal stability of Russia. The apparent stability and strength of the current government does not mean anything. Suffice it to recall that the Mubarak regimes in Egypt, Gaddafi in Libya and Saleh in Yemen were very tough and completely (as they thought) controlled the situation in their countries. However, this did not save them. Skillful external influence, which is superimposed on internal system problems, leads to a powerful social explosion. The stability of the Assad regime did not save. He still holds, with the support of Iran, Russia and China, but the country is in ruins. Syria turned into a battlefield.

The refusal to support the Russian population of Ukraine and the resistance of the south-eastern regions to the pro-Western and neo-Bandera course of Kiev will be shown by Moscow’s yielding to the “world community”. Then the hunt will go to a bigger game - Russia.

The neo-Nazi regime hostile to the Russian people will seize all Little Russia, will receive all of its demographic and economic resources. Obviously, the neo-Bandera will create an extremely hostile state education in Russia. The example of Georgia suggests that aggression and war will soon become inevitable. There was a threat of the “First Ukrainian War”. Moreover, taking into account the human and economic resources, high combat capability of the “Ukrainianized” Rus (unlike the “timid Georgians”), the war will be hard. The confrontation in the Ukrainian, Caucasian and Central Asian directions and internal unrest will destroy the Russian Federation.

For more than twenty years Moscow has done nothing to preserve its influence in Ukraine. The result is sad. Huge masses of the population are simply “zombied”, in fact, they dream of becoming “Euro-Arabs”. While nothing can be done about it. Apparently, Western Ukraine must go through the sad path of the countries of Eastern and Southeastern Europe, the former countries of the socialist bloc. Get the experience of the complete destruction of the national economy, the neglect of Berlin and Brussels, the position of "third-rate" Europeans ("second class" - Balts, Romanians, Poles, Bulgarians and other Greeks). Live under the rule of neo-Nazis ...

What can Russia? Probably mass issue Russian passports, enter the so-called. “Russian map”, which will allow any foreign Russian, “Russian-cultural” to come to Russia, receive a residence permit, become a citizen under an accelerated procedure. With further degradation of the national economy in the west of Ukraine, repression against the Russians, this will provide an opportunity to help people and replenish the population of the Russian Federation, thereby solving the demographic problems.

Prospects of the Crimea and the South-East. Capitulation or resistance

With the regions of Ukraine, more or less preserved the Soviet and Russian cultural values, everything is simple. They either surrender to the neobanderovtsam or neoliberals (who, in fact, also carry out the genocide of the population, but through the socio-economic sphere), but then - woe to the vanquished. After capitulation, there is no point in complaining about fate. Remember the fate of the Serbs in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo, look at the ruins of Libya and Iraq.

I must say that the local authorities in the Southeast mostly merge. Dobkin resigned from the post of governor of the Kharkiv region and plans to run for the presidency of Ukraine, that is, he is not going to resist the rampant Neobanderovtsev. Kharkiv Mayor Kernes tried to remove the flag of the Russian Federation, raised by picketers in front of the Kharkiv City Council. According to him, "Kharkiv is a part of Ukraine, only the flag of Ukraine will hang here." Other local authorities act in a similar way.

In fact, we see the division of interests between the local “elite” and the people. Representatives of local authorities tied to large and medium-sized businesses do not want to lose their sources of income. Confrontation with neo-Nazi Kiev leads to serious changes in these areas. Defeat will lead to loss of income, and even heads. Therefore, local officials began to look for an opportunity to “reach an agreement”, to preserve the “united Ukraine”.

It is clear that the people who do not want the complete victory of the Neo-Bandera, pro-Western forces, will form their own resistance structures. Best of all things in the Crimea. But here, too, local officials are ready to “negotiate”, which ultimately leads to the defeat of the Russian world as a whole. Moreover, in the Crimea, the confrontation with the Crimean Tatars, which support the “unity of Ukraine”, is intensifying. Moreover, even if Crimea can organize itself, it will not fight off alone. It is necessary to unite all the regions that are against the power of pro-Western and neo-Nazi forces. Otherwise, Bandera will be able to concentrate superior forces and, having a “fifth column” in the Russian-cultural regions, better organization and weapons, will break the resistance.

In fact, at present, the possibility of an independent appearance of the pro-Russian belt of Novorossia, Crimea, looks doubtful. Local officials and oligarchs are ready to surrender all in order to save their property and skins. They are more afraid of self-organization of the local population than the evil that seized power in Kiev.

In general, Ukraine was swept by a wave of total betrayal. Yanukovych surrendered power, Kiev and "Berkut". Representatives of the authorities and big business, while the “Golden Eagle” was fighting against militant groups, ran abroad. Like rats from a sinking ship. The security service of Ukraine during or inactive or openly worked for the US intelligence. I must say that the United States has long been placed under the control of the special services of Ukraine. The leadership of the SBU is open traitors who have surrendered their country. The CIA and the SBU worked together to train the Ukrainian militants.

The Ukrainian generals declined responsibility and took part in the surrender of Kiev and the country to neo-Nazis. Local authorities, at a time when it is necessary to carry out an active organizational, mobilization and informational work to create structures of resistance to the Nazi revolution, are inactive or betray the people. Two decades of decomposition in all its glory ...

The most honest in the atmosphere of decomposition, betrayal and lies are neo-Nazis. Their goal is the final de-Sovietization and de-Russification of Ukraine, the war with the “evil empire” - Russia.

The whole burden of the problem now lies with the people. With the West and the Center, everything is obvious. The propaganda of European values ​​led to the almost complete loss of not only the values ​​of the Russian world, but also the usual common sense. Entry into Western Europe, according to the slaves of the European Dream, will solve all their problems. To understand their mistake, the “Ukrainians” will now have to go through blood, poverty and destruction.

In the Southeast, people will have to either organize themselves, overcoming the resistance of local bureaucrats and oligarchs, and in the Crimea also Crimean Tatars, or surrender to neobanderovtsam. There is no other way out. The Russians of the South-East should take this step themselves. For them, no one will do it. May the sad fate of the Serbs be before their eyes. The Serbs, their leadership, playing political games, surrendered power and got a well-deserved. "Stand to the death!" Or - surrender and grief to the vanquished ...
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 27 February 2014 08: 10
    -24%
    Why intervene? We must wait, Julia had already fallen to Germany, felt the smell of fried. Did the boxer want the president to be in life, a nominal position since 2004, Yatsenyuk said that he needed 35 billion, did they give the same amount for Greece, or did he mean half a year?
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 27 February 2014 08: 45
      +20
      And in the spring in Europe, elections to the European Parliament. I wonder which of the deputies in Europe will now vote for the allocation of money to Ukraine and how the voter will vote when he finds out that with a bunch of internal problems, Europe has allocated to a state that is not even part of the EU association, an amount equal to almost half of Portugal’s aid, equal to Greece’s and three times exceeding aid to Cyprus.
      1. baltika-18
        baltika-18 27 February 2014 11: 19
        +3
        Quote: Igor39
        Why intervene? Must wait

        Quote: vladimirZ
        Russia should not take neutrality and a position of "non-interference"

        Why argue? Today, the composition of the government will be approved.
        Let's see what will happen. How our people will react.
      2. Russian
        Russian 27 February 2014 12: 03
        +13
        I propose to those who care to sign the petition:

        https://secure.avaaz.org/ru/petition/Prezident_Rosii_Putin_Vladimir_Vladimirovic

        h_Pomogite_spasti_Ukrainu /? vrlVZgb

        Anything is better than just sitting here on the site and reasoning. But in general, if there is a rally in support of Ukraine, I will definitely leave, because things are really serious, Ukraine is already being divided under our nose! And those who write that we don’t need to interfere are liberals and traitors.

        And the author is a huge plus, it was very interesting to read.
        1. skeptic
          skeptic 27 February 2014 14: 03
          +13
          Quote: р_у_с_с_к_и_й
          And those who write that we don’t need to interfere are liberals and traitors.


          As you say. And those who call to get into someone else’s, family brawl should remember that most often those who shake from the side receive from the united brawlers. Do not forget that more than 20 years of anti-Russian propaganda were not in vain. Many of those who joined the Maidan went to fight against the thieves in power, the economy, against injustice, which is very close to us. With a small adjustment in the media, our soldiers will turn from liberators to invaders who want to return the thieves' power or seize the Ukrainian economy even more, deprive them of their freedom to determine their fate. As a result, fire cocktails will fly from all sides, which will throw everything from small to large. Shots from around the corner or a knife will become realities on our territory, not to mention the attacks carried out by Russian-speaking terrorists with a Slavic appearance.
          What would you do if you threw all the snickering thieves on the territory of Russia, intending to elect and put in the leadership of people whom you consider honest and decent, and the neighboring country considered that you were rebels and sent your troops in?
          Until the child gets burned, it is useless to explain to him that it is hot - it hurts. Until they understand who they brought to power, it is useless to say that those whom they have chosen are their enemies. You do not admit that Ukrainians are smart people and will be able to decide for themselves who is who?
          In the worst case scenario, we will accept everyone who wants to return to Russia. Even the abolition of the Russian language is not the end of the world, if Ukraine eventually becomes hostile, then the fewer Russian-speaking enemies the better.
          But this is only in the worst case scenario. The best propaganda for Russia is a socially oriented Russia with fair legislation and a highly profitable population.
          Help Ukraine? It is necessary to help, but the help should be targeted in relation to the pro-Russian population.
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 27 February 2014 14: 35
            +2
            Quote: skeptic
            And those who call to get into someone else’s, family brawl should remember that most often those who shake from the side receive from the united brawlers

            Decree of the President of Ukraine No. 90 / 2014 of February 27 2014

            (Translated from Ukrainian)

            22-23 February in Ukraine there was a military coup in which groups of armed Nazi militants with military-political support of foreign powers seized the central government in the capital city of Kiev, and a number of regional administrations in the western part of the country.

            Some of the political forces of Ukraine acted as traitors to the people and collaborators, collaborating with fascists who seized state power in the capital, with the goal of forming a puppet government entirely dependent on external sponsors of this coup, represented by the United States of America and NATO countries, primarily Germany and Poland. Fascist gangs ousted employees of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine from Kiev, captured the Central Rada, and instituted reprisals against deputies who did not support the coup, including beatings, abductions, burning houses and threats of reprisals against deputies and their families. In this regard, the continuation of the activities of the constitutional authorities in Kiev became impossible for military reasons.

            To cover the goals of the coup d'état, the participants used the “Agreement on the settlement of the crisis in Ukraine” of February 21 of 2014, in which, together with me they stated: “They intend to form a coalition and form a Government of national unity within 10 days”, before the first Martha. This Agreement was initialed by the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of France, Germany and Poland, who later not only failed to fulfill their obligations as guarantors of the Agreement, but also took a direct part in promoting a coup in Ukraine.

            The President of Ukraine remains the only party to this Agreement, which strictly and fully complied with its obligations. In connection with the expiration of the period announced by the Agreement of February 21 for the formation of the Government of National Unity in Ukraine, and the attempts of part of the putschists to form their own illegal puppet government in Kiev, I announce the following measures of the legal authority of Ukraine to restore the constitutional order:
            ...

            President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych
            27 February 2014 of the year


            http://anna-news.info/node/13745
        2. Skipper2050
          Skipper2050 1 March 2014 00: 28
          0
          I am for, I think as if ours did not surrender Ukraine.
    2. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 27 February 2014 09: 28
      +15
      Russia should not take neutrality and the position of "non-interference" declared by Putin and Lavrov in relation to the events taking place in Ukraine, Bandera's seizure of Russophobic power.
      Russians in Ukraine are at risk of extreme discrimination. Russians permanently living on their land, by the will of the politicians of the criminals, were in a foreign, and now a hostile, state.
      Russia without fail and urgently must help its Russian people, who are in danger.
      If this does not happen, it will be a betrayal of the supreme power of Russia in relation to the entire Russian people.
      It is not clear Putin's prolonged silence. Who Putin will be the next Gorbachev, or the SAVIOR and PATRIOT IN HEAD OF RUSSIA, who had not been on Russian soil for a long time.
      1. smile
        smile 27 February 2014 13: 46
        +7
        vladimirZ
        Russia is already providing serious political support to the Southeast. And puts pressure on the western owners of bandarlogs. The West understands this.
        The State Duma may consider joining the Crimea to Russia. This was announced in Simferopol by the head of the Duma committee on CIS affairs, Eurasian integration and relations with compatriots Leonid Slutsky. He emphasized that Russia favors the integrity of Ukraine, but is ready to study the issue of the status of Crimea, if there is such a decision. What do you think - he just blurted it out without thinking, or are answers to such questions agreed with the leadership? :)))
        By the way, ours have already begun issuing Russian passports to Crimean residents according to a simplified procedure - as in South Ossetia at one time. Does this also tell you anything? The meaning is not clear to you? :)))
        Well, as for the fact that Putin. Lavrov is talking about the integrity of Ukraine - they are doing absolutely right. This is a diplomatic language - it’s time to understand this already. You have already become an adult.
        And then. what help will be provided. depends on the Ukrainians, on their ability to go to the end in the confrontation with the Nazis. Our Power already helps them, but it is not able to fight for the bottom instead of them.
        So, I'm sorry that you don’t have to cast a shadow on the fence and cry out that nothing is being done - this is simply not true.
      2. 222222
        222222 27 February 2014 13: 49
        +1
        vladimirZ RU Today, 09:28 ↑ New
        Russia should not occupy neutrality. "... from the morning until March 13, the Black Sea Fleet exercise in the Black Sea. 36 ships. 26 02 14 passed the Bosforr BDK Kaliningrad and Minsk ... were in Syria ...
      3. striker
        striker 27 February 2014 21: 58
        +2
        Quote: vladimirZ

        Putin's protracted silence is not clear

        In Novosibirsk will be held People's gathering in defense of Russian residents of Crimea
        shturmnovosti.info/content/v-novosibirske-sostoitsya-narodnyy-shod-v-zashchitu-r

        usskih-zhiteley-kryma.html

        Yesterday's scenario of the massacre of Orthodox Serbs in the Balkans, today will be practiced on the Russians in the Crimea, and tomorrow, if everything goes as it is, "Serborez" is prepared for the Russians already in Russia itself.

        February 28 at 18.00 on the square Lenin's Novosibirsk A national gathering will take place in defense of the Russian inhabitants of Crimea, in defense of the legendary city of Russian Military Glory - Sevastopol.
        We, the Russian inhabitants of Novosibirsk, DEMAND from President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin immediately render all possible assistance to the Russian inhabitants of Crimea, to prevent the genocide of the Russian population of Eastern Ukraine and the reproach of Orthodox shrines. If this is not done as soon as possible, we will consider the inaction of the authorities of the Russian Federation as NATIONAL TRIESTION and treason.

        It is a pity that 20 years ago, 10 years ago, 5 years ago, no one wanted to hear the voices of those who foreshadowed the Russian People - "Russian Kosovo". So today - only a few will hear.
        Heard yourself - help others to hear! Otherwise, SERBOREZ is waiting for us all!

        THE PEOPLE'S ASSUME was organized with the support of the All-People's Patriotic Movement "RUSSIAN PRORIV" and other representatives of the Russian national-patriotic movement of Russia.
    3. user
      user 27 February 2014 10: 00
      +9
      I didn’t want to comment on the topic of Ukraine, but judging by how the current government merges power in municipalities, with the possible exception of Sevastopol and how the people of these same entities behave (the most striking example of Kiev and Simferopol) do not build illusions. There is no such Little Russia and Crimea, in the sense that the majority of the Forum lay, no more, over the past 20 years, the struggle for the minds of Russia has been lost. If there is no direct intervention of Russia, then there will be nothing else (everything will end like in Simferopol, when the Tatars simply ousted the protesters from the walls of the Crimean Parliament). And the rest will be a struggle for a piece of bread, for a loved one, better with sausage.
      1. Internal combustion engine
        Internal combustion engine 27 February 2014 12: 02
        +3
        True said. Direct intervention is needed and as soon as possible while the new government has not yet really strengthened.
        1. Letun
          Letun 27 February 2014 13: 56
          +1
          And tell me, how do you imagine this direct intervention? Enter Russian troops in the cities of Ukraine? And with whom to fight there? Honestly, I just want to hear your more detailed opinion on this issue.

          PS By the way, the author of the article touched upon the becoming fashionable topic "Pro-Olympics to Ukraine" That's right, the word is starting to get boring. If the Olympiad hadn't been held, what would have changed? Would Putin send troops to Kiev? There yanyk was afraid to distribute weapons to the police, what are you talking about ?! Or do you think he would have entered there without an invitation?
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 27 February 2014 14: 00
            +1
            Quote: Letun
            And tell me, how do you imagine this direct intervention? Enter Russian troops in the cities of Ukraine?

            Ukrainian generals and admirals turned to acting. President Alexander Turchinov, the leaders of the Batkivshchyna faction Arseniy Yatsenyuk and the UDAR faction Vitaly Klitschko with a request to convene a meeting of the National Security and Defense Council.

            "We ask you to urgently convene the Council on National Security and Defense under the President of Ukraine, which will include representatives of the public - highly professional specialists who are able to develop concrete measures to stabilize relations with Russia and resolve the situation in Crimea, determine a roadmap for expedient further actions in the field of security, "- said in the appeal, the text of which the agency has.
            1. Rattenfanger
              Rattenfanger 27 February 2014 15: 44
              +1
              Ukrainian generals and admirals turned to acting. President Alexander Turchinov, the leaders of the Batkivshchyna faction Arseniy Yatsenyuk and the UDAR faction Vitaly Klitschko with a request to convene a meeting of the National Security and Defense Council.

              Surely they rent a tank from the Baltic states. Explicitly expansionist actions-a sharp increase in the armored forces of Ukraine by half.
          2. Internal combustion engine
            Internal combustion engine 27 February 2014 14: 46
            +1
            You ask with whom to fight there? So it’s even good if you don’t have to fight, but you need to introduce troops.
            1. Letun
              Letun 27 February 2014 16: 44
              +1
              Where to enter? To Kiev? This is called the word occupation. And in this case, you definitely have to shoot. And not in terrorists, but in civilians.
              Of course, I understand that an easy way to earn green plus signs is posts in the style of "Send troops to Ukraine !!!" But nevertheless, before writing this, it probably does not hurt to think a little about the consequences.
              1. Internal combustion engine
                Internal combustion engine 27 February 2014 17: 47
                +1
                This is not an occupation, but the liberation of the peoples of Ukraine from usurpers of power. Look at the Americans, they don’t wrap it up. Vietnam, Panama, Iraq ... They don’t do politics with white gloves.
                1. Rus2012
                  Rus2012 27 February 2014 22: 13
                  +1
                  Quote: ICE
                  This is not an occupation, but the liberation of the peoples of Ukraine from usurpers of power.


                  Something is not visible that they want liberation. In addition to the Sevastopolites, of course ...

                  ... if a person, a people thinks in slave categories - the EU - will help, the USA - will help ... In the end, the Russian brothers, - nothing will help such a people!

                  Not all people think there, but these are average thoughts ...
                  It’s sad that it happened ...

                  We ourselves were captured by our dreams, we thought that they are the same as us - swallowed by liberoid values, to which immunity has already been instilled ...
                  No alas! Everything turned out to be much simpler: the elites, the highest local, betray something ... The people are silent ...

                  They must drink this bitter cup to the bottom ... Understand on their own neck the charms of Europe and other democratic values ​​...

                  The only thing you can speed up the arrival of awareness. Start from Crimea ... M.b. Odessa will be beaten to it ... And then we'll see ...
                2. siberalt
                  siberalt 28 February 2014 00: 11
                  0
                  The usual struggle for markets. Leave Ukraine in the EU would be a problem in Russian business, and vice versa. For this, a surge of Russophobia was organized.
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          3. Cynic
            Cynic 27 February 2014 14: 49
            +2
            Quote: Letun
            There, Yanyk was afraid of distributing weapons to the police, what are you talking about ?!

            Or was it not for nothing that he was afraid?
            After all, they just handed out, it immediately blazed! Just waiting for this!
            Having said A, B needed to be said, but this did not happen!
            And there is nothing to hide behind the Law on Police, as the former minister did not turn out to be a mishandled Cossack! It all hurt. _ I gave the command to hand out the weapon, but NO to eliminate the Maidan!
        2. Skipper2050
          Skipper2050 1 March 2014 00: 38
          0
          I agree! You can’t wait.
      2. smile
        smile 27 February 2014 13: 50
        +2
        user
        I would like to hear in what form you propose our direct intervention - to raise the alarm and begin to transfer troops there? Can you imagine the consequences?

        By the way, isn't that why unplanned maneuvers broke out in our country, and the "peacekeepers" were raised on their ears? :)))
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 27 February 2014 22: 20
          -1
          Quote: smile
          I would like to hear in what form you propose our direct intervention - to raise the alarm and begin to transfer troops there?

          By the way, isn't that why unplanned maneuvers broke out in our country, and the "peacekeepers" were raised on their ears?

          ... an invasion is possible, but a little later.
          And the second.
          The first to go is NATO.
          For example, to ensure stable pipe supplies. So it will be for next winter ..
          Perhaps sooner, but ... the rest of the operational technologies of such matters are not openly discussed ...
      3. Cynic
        Cynic 27 February 2014 14: 43
        +3
        Quote: user
        the struggle for a piece of bread, for a loved one, is better with sausage.

        A clear alarmist and a healer!
    4. Umnichka
      Umnichka 27 February 2014 13: 31
      +3
      HUGE MINUS ARTICLE. He started beautifully and correctly, muddied his head - and then he justified, justified the betrayal. There is a war. After all, he correctly wrote that we are the next, OUR CHILDREN. There is nowhere to retreat, behind MOSCOW. Guys, this is a fact! When they played by the rules, there was always a disaster. To live with wolves - howl like a wolf. No rules. Take as much as possible according to military-technical capabilities. History books with mazeps and Bender - in the furnace, etc. Such authors are worse than a direct enemy. Provocateur and traitor.
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 27 February 2014 22: 22
        +1
        Quote: Umnichka
        There is a war. After all, he correctly wrote that we are the next, OUR CHILDREN. There is nowhere to retreat, behind MOSCOW. Guys, this is a fact!


        ... it remains, as always, to rely only on oneself and equally thinking ...
        1. avia12005
          avia12005 28 February 2014 00: 25
          0
          Guys, why not the English version? How would I send the West ... Something like this: Uncle Vasya's troops are going to London. Shaw? Did not wait? Grandfathers reached Berlin, grandchildren sailed to New York. Matyuki add yourself, subscribe! drinks
        2. avia12005
          avia12005 28 February 2014 00: 25
          0
          Guys, why not the English version? How would I send the West ... Something like this: Uncle Vasya's troops are going to London. Shaw? Did not wait? Grandfathers reached Berlin, grandchildren sailed to New York. Matyuki add yourself, subscribe! drinks
      2. mainu
        mainu 28 February 2014 01: 59
        0
        I agree, I didn’t even read the article
    5. Umnichka
      Umnichka 27 February 2014 13: 31
      +1
      HUGE MINUS ARTICLE. He started beautifully and correctly, muddied his head - and then he justified, justified the betrayal. There is a war. After all, he correctly wrote that we are the next, OUR CHILDREN. There is nowhere to retreat, behind MOSCOW. Guys, this is a fact! When they played by the rules, there was always a disaster. To live with wolves - howl like a wolf. No rules. Take as much as possible according to military-technical capabilities. History books with mazeps and Bender - in the furnace, etc. Such authors are worse than a direct enemy. Provocateur and traitor.
    6. Combitor
      Combitor 28 February 2014 03: 40
      0
      Quote: Igor39
      Why intervene? We must wait, Julia already dumped in Germany, felt when the smell of fried.

      "Maidanovoditeli" represented by Klitschko, Tyagnibok, Yatsenyuk and so on. etc. think THEY won? Not at all. Others won, without whose permission this trio did not even go to the push.
      “The Neobanderites are outright enemies of the Russian civilization, the Russian people,“ fighting zombies ”, ready to pour blood on everything in the name of their ideals. Their coming to power is the opening of the "Ukrainian Front", the beginning of the "First Ukrainian War".>
      1. maroder555
        maroder555 2 March 2014 18: 36
        0
        Sashko Muzychko "Bily" is already a corpse, he just doesn't know about it yet ...
  2. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 27 February 2014 08: 23
    +26
    But is it time for us to start helping the IRA, for example? In their difficult task of fighting the British occupiers? Or the freedom-loving peoples of Mexico and Colombia in their fight against the infuriated American military? Weapons, instructors, etc. By the way, Texas and Quebec have a legal right to self-determination ...
    How did the Anglo-Saxon ghouls get it?
    1. Canep
      Canep 27 February 2014 08: 56
      +18
      Quote: Rattenfanger
      But is it time for us to start helping the IRA, for example?

      It is high time. In the United States, 29 states have already garnered votes for secession petitions. It is necessary to have agents of influence there, to finance and support these democratic processes. We shouldn't forget about Scotland either - "Freedom to Edinburgh", "Let's stop the persecution of the Scottish people" .... In general, you need to work with their methods on their territory, then the arguments in the negotiations will be more weighty than nuclear weapons. “If you don’t want it to be bad in our country, where is the head of the NGO“ Bovarskoe Unity ”- do you want money? ... We will pay the Munich coup 2.0 after the fact.” Wolves and bandits need to speak their language.
      1. Rattenfanger
        Rattenfanger 27 February 2014 09: 45
        0
        Quote: Canep
        In general, you need to work with their methods on their territory

        Exactly! Moreover, the events in South Ossetia have shown that we can wage and win information battles with the West.
        We need a small, but highly professional and informationally mobile body / organization to conduct information wars. It must be understood, finally, that in the 21st century, wars do not begin with massive RBUs ​​or attacks by tank divisions. So they finish nonce. And they are won through mass media, computer games, films, etc., i.e. of all that forms a person’s perception of the surrounding reality.
    2. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 27 February 2014 09: 21
      +9
      Rattenfanger "Isn't it time for us to start helping the IRA, for example?"
      Yes, our sluggish in these areas. Here are some things to support And do not complain about double standards.
      "Give freedom to the Basques! -The captivity of Spain and France is assured. Plus Catalonia for Spain, in pursuit. Freedom of Valonia and Belgium kirdyk! Britain? Freedom of Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland. -Kirdyk Britain.
      Germany? No problems? Long live the Turkish and Kurdish autonomy !!! And you can still support the north of Italy in his desire to separate from the rest of Italy. There are such sentiments. About America in general I am silent. There is enough to stir up the Latinos.
      Take all the scum of these countries from us, prepare them in the camps and help them in their difficult struggle against the central governments of these countries. There are dissatisfied in all countries. And then Britain will quickly return the fugitive Chechens to us, and not only them. This is me for example. You can quietly support the movement of radical Muslims in the same Britain. After all, they support the same Chechen fugitives and are not given to us.
      In short, what am I - all states have weaknesses.
      And the fact that these moods are poorly developed is not their merit, it is our lack of work !!! So our work badly. But the Americans are working on research such as that the Siberians are not entirely Russian. They say they differ as heaven and earth. At first, Ukrainians pumped up their brains that they had nothing to do with Russians ... now they’re climbing into Siberia.
      We need to work against those states that climb to us with their pork snout. In the same ways that they work against us. And while smiling and talking about the freedom of self-determination of peoples, when it is beneficial to us. They do not play against us by the rules. Therefore, there is nothing to observe these rules. And whining about double standards is not necessary, we must use these standards ourselves with might and main.
      1. 341712
        341712 28 February 2014 12: 50
        +1
        When do we start?
    3. Suvorov000
      Suvorov000 27 February 2014 09: 50
      +1
      Daaaaa Texas has repeatedly Obama threatened with a finger)))) southerners people are hot)) almost immediately grab the gun))
      1. Rattenfanger
        Rattenfanger 27 February 2014 09: 59
        +3
        They have one junior precinct (deputy sheriff) Stephen Seagal is worth it!)))
    4. Skif
      Skif 27 February 2014 20: 20
      0
      But without Belarus and Ukraine, Russia alone cannot survive ... And there really is nowhere to retreat, think, dear ... Today is Ukraine (Syria, Venezuela, etc.), and tomorrow you
      1. Rus2012
        Rus2012 27 February 2014 22: 26
        0
        Quote: Skiff
        Today, Ukraine (Syria, Venezuela, etc.), and tomorrow you

        ... not to express! They forgot the Chinese ... Together we stand!
        1. 341712
          341712 28 February 2014 12: 52
          0
          With the Chinese, you need to be very careful, slippery people.
    5. Rus2012
      Rus2012 27 February 2014 22: 24
      0
      Quote: Rattenfanger
      Isn’t it time for us to start helping

      ... there was only one way left in reserve - to collapse the dollar with the Chinese ...
  3. Kunar
    Kunar 27 February 2014 08: 29
    +22
    Zapituє onuk dіda:
    - Dіda, but what do we need to know from the Jews?
    - They are good people. To live in Israel, to seize their land, to fight with the Arabs. And Jews live in Ukraine, eat bacon, burn a fire and become a national Ukrainian state.
    - Dіda, but what do you want to see in Russia?
    - Russian good people. To live in Russia, to love our Batkivshchyna, to fight against the Chechens, to give us naphtha and gas. And and living in Ukraine, eating bacon, burning a bitter and becoming a national Ukrainian state.
    - Ukrainians are good people. Living with the USA and Canada, not breaking the laws, loving Ukraine and doing business. And Ukrainians live in Ukraine, eat bacon, smoke a bottle and make Jews and yam a national Ukrainian state.
    1. Canep
      Canep 27 February 2014 08: 59
      +8
      The same in Russian:
      The grandson of the grandfather asks:
      - Grandfather, how do Jews differ from the Jews?
      - Jews are good people. They live in Israel, defend their country, fight with the Arabs. And the women live in Ukraine, they eat fat, drink vodka and build a national Ukrainian state.
      - Grandfather, how is Russian lyudyna different from Moscal?
      - Russian good people. They live in Russia, love their homeland, fight with the Chechens, give us oil and gas. And Muscovites live in Ukraine, eat fat, drink vodka and build a national Ukrainian state.
      - Ukrainian are good people. They live in the USA and Canada, do not violate laws, love Ukraine and do business. And Ukrainians live in Ukraine, eat fat, drink vodka and prevent Jews and Muscovites from building a national Ukrainian state.
      Google translator didn’t even rule with the exception of some words.
  4. Rattenfanger
    Rattenfanger 27 February 2014 08: 30
    +9
    The West took advantage of a distracting maneuver - the Olympics

    After 08.08.08. this is to be expected. Moreover, it is unclear how dragging the colonel slipped this moment.
    massively issue Russian passports, introduce the so-called. A “Russian card” that will allow any foreign Russian, “Russian-cultural”, to come to Russia, obtain a residence permit, and become a citizen under the accelerated procedure.

    This had to be done a long time ago. Better than Ravshanov and Dshumushutov to import by echelons.
    1. Arhj
      Arhj 27 February 2014 08: 58
      +8
      And who knows how many Russian citizens now live in Ukraine?
      With the support of the "fifth column", the West successfully carried out an operation to capture Kiev.

      But even the West has doubts about its success. They captured Kiev, no one argues. Only according to the scenario, after the seizure of power, the Banderlog were supposed to disperse and provide the opportunity to rule for the "right people", that is, Yatsenyuk and Klitschko, but the crowd did not disperse. Moreover, the "Right Sector", which was intended to play the role of "meat", actually subordinated both the Rada and the future government. And its leaders openly declare that they will not go "to Europe" and NATO, and they look askance at the Americans, and hate the Poles. Their goal is to create a regional superpower.
      It turns out that the EU did not achieve its goals, but only created a problem at its borders.
      Now they remembered about Russia, they suggested participating in the settlement of the crisis.
    2. Rus2012
      Rus2012 27 February 2014 22: 28
      0
      Quote: Rattenfanger
      Moreover, it is unclear how dragging the colonel slipped this moment.

      ... well, I didn’t calculate a little ...
      It seems, nevertheless, that so far we are not seeing the entire scenario of the confrontation ...
  5. EvilLion
    EvilLion 27 February 2014 08: 31
    +4
    We want war wake up! Because until the Russians are completely outlawed in the square, they will not be combed. What if the Maidan is dispersed and someone is imprisoned by the president because of this the Russian language becomes the state language, and in schools they stop teaching that Russia is the main enemy? No, there will be some attempts to create a "pro-Russian" party that will throw everyone away again, and so on in a circle. Nafig! Better a few thousand corpses in a week and Russian tanks in Kiev than decades of madness and millions of deaths.
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    2. PSih2097
      PSih2097 27 February 2014 12: 21
      +1
      Quote: EvilLion
      Better several thousand corpses per week and Russian tanks in Kiev than dozens of years of a madhouse and millions of deaths.

      And the protectorate over the zapadents from But father Lukashenko ...
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 27 February 2014 16: 38
        0
        Why do they need him?

        - Look, Simba, everything that concerns the light of our kingdom.
        “And that dark place?”
        - And there stupid Bandera live there, to do to us there nefig!

        Lukashenko even multidirectional is ten times better than them, but he has achieved the preference from Russia, and not a penny to the Russian budget. In principle, it is likely that when Lukashenko leaves, he will simply give up the territory of the Russian Federation.
  6. svskor80
    svskor80 27 February 2014 08: 34
    +6
    The fact of the matter is that if you give an occasion now, then Bandera will now begin to rally the Ukrainians with the Russian threat, aggression. If they are given power, then they will all blunder ... much faster than Yanukovych, when ultimate poverty and hopelessness sets in, only then will people remember Russia. But to cooperate with Bandera is not necessary.
    1. Walk
      Walk 27 February 2014 09: 20
      +3
      Already started. The states, instead of the promised 15 billion, said that they could allocate 1 billion, and the EU promised to allocate 1.5 billion. Ukraine only needs more for gas, and yet pensions and salaries have not been paid. I have a feeling that by forbidding us to interfere in affairs in Ukraine, the states and the EU are hoping with all their strength that we will do the opposite from the principle. I hope this does not happen. The mayor of Lviv has already spoken Russian in Euronews. He says that you don’t have to offend the Russians. They ... got along with their revolution. Our need to pause for as long as possible. Soon, they themselves will begin to judge the leaders of the Maidan.
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      2. Egen
        Egen 27 February 2014 10: 14
        +2
        Quote: Walk
        Already started. The states, instead of the promised 15 billion, said that they could allocate 1 billion, and the EU promised to allocate 1.5 billion. Ukraine only needs more for gas, and yet pensions and salaries have not been paid. I have a feeling that by forbidding us to interfere in affairs in Ukraine, the states and the EU are hoping with all their strength that we will do the opposite from the principle. I hope this does not happen. The mayor of Lviv has already spoken Russian in Euronews. He says that you don’t have to offend the Russians. They ... got along with their revolution. Our need to pause for as long as possible. Soon, they themselves will begin to judge the leaders of the Maidan.

        I don’t understand anything :( Have everyone forgotten how to count, don’t enter? Well, the West will even give 15 billion, and - what? Well, enough for a month or two to pay debts and wage, and - what? And then what to pay wp, and even these Any debts need to be repaid? Any child understands that this is a transformation of the position into an even worse one, leading to a fatal crater - in principle, like the Germans did after Stalingrad and especially Kursk, because there is no economy, no GDP (which product) is created.
        The only way out is to create political and economic conditions so that the economy works, taxes go, etc., everything has started. But in the current situation with Bandera, the authorities will not have the same result!
        So, with such handouts, the West openly destroys Ukraine.
        So ours did the right thing with Crimea - they invited Russian investors. The right way is to give people not a handout but an opportunity to work and earn money. True, fools are unlikely to be invested in an unstable country, first you need to settle it all :(
  7. Horn
    Horn 27 February 2014 08: 35
    +16
    The West has created a “fork” (trap) for Russia. If Russia intervenes in Ukraine’s affairs, it’s bad. Not interfering - even worse. To intervene in Ukrainian affairs is to cause an explosion of hatred of Ukrainians, who consider themselves a separate people, and Ukraine - an “independent state”. Neo-Bandera will consolidate the "image of the enemy" in the minds of Ukrainians. For the entire world community, Russia will become the personification of Mordor. Already, a significant part of the world media accuses Russia of Ukrainian events.

    It fits perfectly into the plans for the final destruction of the Russian civilization. Russia will be blamed for all sins, aggression. In the West, they have long been creating the image of “infernal Russia,” “Russian orcs,” and “Russian Mordor.” Intervention in the affairs of Ukraine, even the most gentle, is used for large-scale Russophobic information campaign.

    A sober look. It is the slogan "Salvation of the drowning is the work of the drowning themselves" and should be relevant. If Russia does not do something stupid by directly interfering in the internal affairs of a sovereign country, the West will "wash away". It is extremely important for Russia now to destroy its 5th column in the most brutal way and to raise propaganda to a qualitatively new level. Hopefully we still have 10-12 years. But time is running out inexorably. The generation of "Pepsi" and the victims of the exam are growing. People "without a homeland and a flag." Except for the flag, the cut American paper, and for the Motherland - "the place where the railway station is warm" ...
  8. ed65b
    ed65b 27 February 2014 08: 38
    +10
    As for Yulia-Yulia, baba must be given her due, she is very, very smart and it will be difficult to find a better president for Ukraine (from the opposition camp). It was she who immediately proposed to give all the government and all power to the Maidan, not to take power to any of the parties. And this was done with one goal to finally and irrevocably lower the Maidan, because it is a no brainer that under the strict guidance of Yarosh, Bilykh, a singer and a doctor, Ukraine will fall into stagnation in a week. Not a single politician will talk to them about anything, especially about loans and saving the economy. That will finally bring the politicians of the "old wave" into power (they themselves will crawl on their stomachs and give up power and will belittle what they would take). But Yatsenyuk did not listen, now his fate is sad and not enviable. That by the way the boxer understood and refused to participate in the government (or maybe Merkel advised).
    Venediktov (Ekho Moskvy) yesterday gave an interview to five presenters on Ukrainian radio. And instead of the expected diarrhea and vomiting towards Russia, I was surprised when Venediktov pulled the light of liberals from the Maidan to pieces, supported the golden eagle, when the presenters got up and beaten the others shook their heads. and shone with sweaty bald patches they had no arguments against his words. He denied the Russian Maidan. And no matter how I disliked him, but in this verbal duel I was on his side.
    1. largus886
      largus886 27 February 2014 09: 20
      +4
      But can’t Julia be hired for a just cause? To the post of Princess of Crimea. Anti-crisis manager she is cool, the leader is tough. Of course it will be a steal, but one. We have such an example, Mr. Kadyrov.
      1. Standard Oil
        Standard Oil 27 February 2014 09: 48
        +3
        And what kind of “government can“ form the Maidan? ”Grandfather Lenin said and wrote a lot of clever and intelligent words, but I consider his statement about“ Any cook ”who“ can run the state ”to be erroneous, to put it mildly.
        1. Standard Oil
          Standard Oil 27 February 2014 09: 52
          +2
          How many "lights" of statesmen are there on the Maidan?
        2. Letun
          Letun 27 February 2014 16: 59
          0
          Quote: Standard Oil
          Grandfather Lenin said and wrote a lot of clever and intelligent words, but I consider his statement about “Any cook” who “can run the state” to be erroneous, to put it mildly.

          They say that this is not his complete statement, the full one ends with the phrase: "with the oil price above $ 100 per barrel" wink
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 27 February 2014 10: 28
        +9
        Quote: largus886
        But can’t Julia be hired for a just cause?

        No, thanks! Who else but Yulia received loans from the IMF, for which the Yanukovych government was paying? And right now there were peaks of loans. And as soon as the West saw that Yanukovych might slip out, then the Maidan appeared! What is Julia for now? To make new debts? It was Yulia who screamed, together with Lutsenko, "Enclose Donbass with barbed wire, and let them work!" So this bogeyman ... and the cannon shot must not be allowed!
        1. largus886
          largus886 27 February 2014 10: 35
          -3
          And for the money she can yell, what you order! Vaughn Kadyrov yells "I am a soldier of Putin", although he is still tied in blood.
      3. ed65b
        ed65b 27 February 2014 10: 28
        +1
        Quote: largus886
        But can’t Julia be hired for a just cause? To the post of Princess of Crimea. Anti-crisis manager she is cool, the leader is tough. Of course it will be a steal, but one. We have such an example, Mr. Kadyrov.

        GDP with Yulia will instantly find a common language.
        1. largus886
          largus886 27 February 2014 10: 41
          0
          And he’s a smart man, it’s better to deal with solid Yulia than with the liquid mass of Yanukovych. Julia western Maidan would quickly disperse and would not miss her. And then do not steal not guard!
  9. Eugeniy_369k
    Eugeniy_369k 27 February 2014 08: 44
    +1
    I certainly understand that Ukraine is our neighbor, etc. etc., but did the site go too far with articles about these "maydanutyh" and predictions of the consequences as a result of their actions?
    1. domokl
      domokl 27 February 2014 09: 04
      +7
      Quote: Eugeniy_369k
      but did not go too far with the site with articles

      Articles are not reprinted from somewhere. They are written by us. Authors write about their pain. About points of view on the problem from different countries, from different political camps ... So if people write, it’s interesting, it means it’s worrying ...
      If you are interested in something else, you are welcome. Write, discuss, express your point of view.
      1. Eugeniy_369k
        Eugeniy_369k 27 February 2014 09: 56
        +2
        Quote: domokl
        Articles are not reprinted from somewhere. They are written by us. Authors write about their pain. About points of view on the problem from different countries, from different political camps ... So, if people write, it means it's interesting.
        Write, discuss, express your point of view.

        I understand that the articles are not printed, the authors express their point. To put it mildly, "not pleasant" to watch the latest events in Ukraine.
        I understood your promise, but only ....
        An artificial state is doomed to decay .. domokl

        Not so many points of view can be on what happened in Ukraine.
        My opinion is that Yanukovych himself is to blame for what happened. It was necessary to disperse this cd in December, and then there is one ascending one "Maidan star" Lesya Orobets said -
        correspondent - I think there was simply no order to disperse.
        Orobets - It was, and more than once. But they either raised high ambassadors, as it was, for example, on December 11, when the security forces entered Maidan, or played the same factor of the performers.
    2. Walk
      Walk 27 February 2014 09: 27
      +2
      So after all, articles are posted about what most cares. Who's stopping you from writing about something else? If this is interesting, then, I think, there will be no less comments.
  10. domokl
    domokl 27 February 2014 08: 44
    +4
    The Russian world, which is so often talked about now somehow connected with the western regions of Ukraine? It is beautifully written. Only the basis of the completely incorrect postulate is that the Western part has never belonged to the Russian world.
    And what we see now is nothing more than a partition of the country. Nobody needs it, but ... Western Ukraine already understands that something wrong happened. Eastern Ukraine understood this almost immediately. ZU really wants (and I think that it’s not refuses his desire) to become European. VU is the other way round. But he will not refuse either. And that means, in the end, the operation to separate the Siamese twins will be carried out. The artificial state is doomed to collapse ..
    So, it’s not the Russian world that is losing, but the people of a single country.
  11. Egen
    Egen 27 February 2014 08: 47
    +2
    Alexander, as almost always, is right!
    1. Asgard
      Asgard 27 February 2014 09: 26
      +9
      Yes, Alexander well done, competently painted. I must agree with most of the arguments.
      Most members of the forum make the main "mistake" - they perceive the "outskirts" as a separate state ....
      Remember the Old Man, who gave the sons twigs separately to break, and then a stack that no one could break ....
      Put your Hand on your heart and say that Ukraine is the last state that the West wants to roll in "crap"
      Moreover, He did not hesitate to introduce a subdivision of "cats", allegedly to guard the embassy ...

      Now imagine the Airborne Regiment on Vozdukhoflotskaya Street for the protection of the Embassy of the Russian Federation .... on Panfilovskaya Street, in the places of residence of diplomats)))ask yourself a question - Maidan would be possible then ????
      Klitschko would be running for president ????
      Would they demolish the monuments to Kutuzov ????

      Would the militants of the "right sector" feel so freely ???

      And all that’s necessary is to act just like the West ...
      But what kind of moral support to the Russian People. Which are not a separate state-vom ...
      MAKE YOURSELF ON THE NOSE

      _E T O R U S S K I Y M AND R!

      They should read our discussion here and feel support, not accusations that they do not resist the "fascists", in our opinion, inactive enough. No need to rely on Putin. You yourself (specifically, I (Vasya Zalipupkin)), go to the mirror and ask a question_
      -What have I (worthless person)) done to support and protect the Russian People? Even on the forum, you can’t understand and UNITE, become DEFEND.
      So, if you do not stop here to engage in insinuations, US Infantry Units will come to your street .....

      This is because there will be no one to protect you. Stop hoping for "Putin".
      I already wrote what it is.
      You yourself, specifically, do something, yes, at least write a couple of lines for which it would not be embarrassing in five years when your children in your Free Empire of Rus would read your words .....
      And they will thank you. Remember. You write to Eternity ...........
      IS ALWAYS ))
      1. Name
        Name 27 February 2014 10: 13
        +2
        Quote: Asgard
        And all that’s necessary is to act just like the West ...

        Here she is inclined to believe that you are just a provocateur from the fifth column,
        Quote: Asgard
        MAKE YOURSELF ON THE NOSE

        Provocation, however, is dangerous for the provocateur.
        Quote: Asgard
        Stop hoping for "Putin"

        And so for you, so hope ... GDP guarantees! hi, and you personally (or do not need, a) ... recourse
      2. ReifA
        ReifA 27 February 2014 11: 36
        +2
        I somehow do not really digest your comments, but this one is very, in my opinion, correct. +
      3. Name
        Name 27 February 2014 11: 42
        +2
        He knows for whom! You are a small dirty trick sir and you know why! wink
        1. Asgard
          Asgard 27 February 2014 12: 35
          +2
          breed-Romanovskaya sheep
          Usually I missed your comments, due to the low information content))), but today I devoted half an hour to studying your page, or rather a few, since I read quickly ...

          What can I say, with such views, neither you nor we WILL have a future.
          YOU HAVE SPIRITUAL GUIDELINES, perhaps, as you change your views, but this requires "stress" on the head with a stick)))

          You try to play chess (learn, I think that you do not know how))), then you will see that in order to win, you need to develop an algorithm.
          That is, make moves in the selected direction. You in all WITHOUT EXCEPTION comments suggest you not to make moves (actions))
          Sit and wait like a flock of rams. So Christianity was introduced. With the help of people like you, VARFOLOMEEVSKAYA NIGHT happened, the extermination of the Indians, the shooting of the parliament at 93;

          You "enemy" РRussian People - as a community of peoples. Unfortunately, few people see it. But I suggest they go to your page and read the comments (without reference to the articles at least))
          In the evening I will look at the IP address and traffic info) do not turn off the computer))

          Then it will be possible to decide to remove the quotation marks in the word ENEMY))))
          1. I am a Russian
            I am a Russian 27 February 2014 13: 40
            0
            hi

            Quote: Asgard
            in order to win, you need to develop an algorithm.


            Algorithm - the only way to win?
          2. smile
            smile 27 February 2014 14: 28
            0
            Asgard
            Wah! :)))
            Yes, on a colleague Imyarek, it turns out. the fire cries ... not only did he exterminate the Indians with the Huguennots and shoot the parliament in 93 - he personally gave birth to Hitler, burned Moscow in 812, exterminated the dinosaurs, said "Meow" and framed Roger rabbit! .... A great man, it turns out ... :)))
            How dashingly you record people as enemies ... :))) And how menacing your meaningful promise to "calculate" the IP looks ... :))) You have not added a warning so that the guy does not forget to look back ... :) ))
            Excuse me, Asgard, aren't you funny yourself? :))) What kind of baby talk? The Cossack robbers have not played enough?
            I am sure that Imyarek is now bending over with laughter, reading "terrible threats" ... :)))
      4. smile
        smile 27 February 2014 14: 11
        +2
        Asgard
        Hello.
        Well, I imagined that Russia, contrary to all norms of international law, threw the Airborne Regiment into the streets of Kiev. Well, I’m silent that this is actually aggression and the Ukrainian Army is simply obliged to protect its country from such flying regiments. Okay, let’s omit this, otherwise it will become completely ridiculous. :)))
        What do we get?
        1. All Ukrainian people are outraged by such a voyage and rally against the interventionists.
        2. Bandarlogs clearly, poking fingers in the direction of our landing, explain to Ukrainians. that we want to enslave them.
        3. The same crowd rushes to the landing. only bigger, that the pearl on the Golden Eagle .... than ours are protected? Sapper blades? Yeah, snipers start shooting ... and what, ours will have to arrange a bloody Sunday with hundreds of corpses? Can you imagine. that thousands of people with weapons will begin to draw in there?
        4. Next, the regiment must be equipped. So, at a minimum, you need to take control of the nearest airport. That means. it is necessary to take control of communication. And transport columns will burn - both in the field and in the city. The wiring of each thread turn into a combined-arms operation.
        5. Next. In the area of ​​dislocation, electricity, gas, water will obviously be cut off, for stability it is necessary to expand the held territory, take control of power plants, etc. ..... well, and then - on the rise ...
        And how many regiments were you going to limit there?
        To be honest, I rarely see more unreasonable offers ...
        1. Asgard
          Asgard 27 February 2014 14: 42
          +1
          No, the scenario will be different.
          An AN transporter gets into Zhulyany, with a technical malfunction on board, the Airport is engaged, two groups are moving to Boryspil. Within two hours (in the morning), the military are in Kiev with an ANNOUNCED MISSION-Protection of Russian People in, including diplomats "

          The Regiment Commander announces a press conference on the square in front of the Lybid hotel ... A certain group of "snipers" from US assault rifles and Galil submachine guns fire at Armored vehicles with Russian flags ... and leave leaving their weapons in positions (to mix with crowd))

          The weapon is presented, it would be nice to have a couple of corpses of snipers in Calvin Klein shorts, The regiment commander announces an emergency mode, and in the absence of a government-of-himself commandant of Kiev.

          Russia begins to provide assistance to the fraternal people of Ukraine. The price of gas is announced domestically (Gazprom fellows))) Debts are forgiven (all the same, you can’t get the money back yet)) duties are also canceled to restore the Economy, all taxes (for example, for a year))))

          Bandera’s people themselves Khokh * ly strangled within a week, the Commandant of Kiev is elected presidentWell, then you can already paint ....

          For information, 95% of the population of Ukraine understands the Russian Language. 80% of families have a connection with Russia, Ukraine cannot be divided, this will be a redistribution according to the Syrian scenario ....
          And the proposed option is the BEST otherwise We will get a cessation of gas transit, a "thread" for Russian-speaking people, banditry, and the West will have constant opportunities to feed the separatist movements)))

          This is how it should BE ..... Yes, and it would be, if someone showed "political will"
          1. Cynic
            Cynic 27 February 2014 15: 37
            +3
            Quote: Asgard
            That's how it should be

            Are you joking?
            Script copyright from Western samples.
            It leads to certain thoughts.
            1. Asgard
              Asgard 27 February 2014 18: 34
              -1
              The scenario of the GRU (Czechoslovakia)) was considered the same according to Slatina (pristina) of the SFRY ... I don’t know the details (the bar has not been removed yet)), it happened as it happened ...
              The operation seems to be called "Danube")))
              At 2 a.m. on August 21, advanced units of the 7th Airborne Division landed at the Ruzyne airport in Prague. They blocked the main objects of the airfield, where the Soviet An-12 began to land with troops and military equipment. Well, and then already there my father commanded the company Rota, then He had been in Prague for half a year ....
              A detailed reengineering plan was developed - everyone was arrested ...
              No special services are not police, but the troops could not organize resistance ....
              All the DESIGNED "FIGURES" of Dubchek were arrested and taken to Brezhnev ...
              0 than they say, honestly, I don’t know))))))
              Analysts GRU repeat with Kiev-a fun thing ....
              The whole question again rests on "Cowards" ..................

              ..... that’s exactly the word you can call those who are in charge of the RF))))))
              The fact that Volodya (smile)) rumbles is all garbage ..... He did not participate in any tactical development ....
              In fact, everything is simple and counts at a time. The main "figures" of politics are calculated and it is known who will take What ...
              A little more resources and it was possible to crank this up without putting anyone to taste ....
              The main thing is the Head, Brains and resources of the Ministry of Defense)))) well, without the "sewing" generals)))))
              1. smile
                smile 27 February 2014 21: 19
                +1
                Asgard
                Listen, nobody taught you that when developing such an operation, it’s still worth considering both your own forces and means, and the possible opposition of the enemy (it would also be nice to take into account what the enemy is :)))), and the most interesting that it is worth considering the consequences of brandishing a saber ... :))) If your professional analysis, that the situation in the times of the suppression of the Czechoslovak coup and now in Ukraine is identical, if you believe that we can now throw a few to take control of the country in Ukraine armies including your allies, if you think. that in political terms we are just as strong, then .... throw your analytical apparatus in the trash - it’s broken in you ... and rumbles. :))))
                Sorry, but there is doubt in your experience when you are going to one parachute airborne regiment here ... and the whole country ... funny, honestly. :))) By the way, at the same time ... have you decided on your goals? :))) Maydaunas are full of leaders, soon, they will gobble up each other, so that for isolating the parts from the bottom (which will become great martyrs instantly) the remaining ones will only thank you ... just like the comrades Americans, whose dream is our international isolation will instantly materialize. :))) You should not show your strategic talents so clearly ... so you can get into the hole. :))) Yes, and it sounds strange in someone’s recognition in planning such operations. :))) Say why? :)))
              2. georg737577
                georg737577 28 February 2014 00: 21
                -1
                Asgard, I’m reading your comments, you won’t be denied in your mind and patriotism ... But remember how the invasion of Czechoslovakia ended. Dubcek is a national hero, and Brezhnev and the USSR are still hated ... Do not repeat the mistakes. In the event of an armed invasion of Russia, you will not be greeted with salt, but with lead, including in eastern Ukraine. And if you want bread - salt, then do not come with weapons, but with Yanukovych in handcuffs ... We will hang him together. And it will be a turning point in the relationship. For a thief is a thief everywhere. Do not protect the villain.
                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 28 February 2014 00: 54
                  +3
                  Quote: georg737577
                  .In the event of an armed invasion of Russia

                  What high words _ Invasion, armed!
                  Fascists need to be crushed everywhere! Moreover, they seized power with the help of weapons and betrayal.
                  Quote: georg737577
                  For a thief is a thief everywhere.

                  Namely, a traitor is everywhere a traitor.
          2. smile
            smile 27 February 2014 15: 45
            +3
            Asgard
            How easy and enchanting ... moreover - fabulous. Have you read the fiction? :)))
            I especially liked that the Ukrainians themselves will overdo the Bandera .... So the maydaunas are not only Bandera, there are plenty of Russians ... They would have strangled - but only after that. how the maydown propaganda, which now affects a significant part of Ukrainians, would be neutralized. And the invasion will only strengthen the Ukrainians, that the Russian enslavers are to blame for everything. Blood will be shed. A lot of. Where will the armed crowds go? Will they resolve by themselves? What will prevent them from gathering in crowds and trampling on landing? And ours will start to shoot. Otherwise, they simply won’t survive. See the rest above. Your words in no way refute what I wrote in the comment to which you replied. Alas.
            Help is also noteworthy ... only you forgot another 30 billion for the immediate needs of the near future and the inevitable sabotage, direct wrecking.
            And do not tell me for information. I have a lot of relatives living in Fastov and Lubny and we communicate.
            Your cheap option threatens to come out so expensive that it will suck us all. Do not chase cheapness, avaricious pays twice. And in general, you have already suggested that we forgive all debts, swell already 30 billion and shed blood ... a lot of blood ... and also take Ukraine to the fullest, .... however, you have strange ideas about the cheapness of this path.
            I remind you again. that according to your plan, we will commit aggression. Every citizen of Ukraine will simply have to defend his country ... think about the prospects.

            If someone showed such a will, we would at least get involved in a long guerrilla war with the fraternal people. Ukrainians would quarrel with us to death, whatever our international situation would be - and so it is. It would also hit us economically. Imagine how we would suffer losses only from all kinds of sanctions. That damage would go to hundreds of billions is obvious. I am very glad that our leadership has brains and it did not follow the path that you indicated.
        2. Pinochet000
          Pinochet000 2 March 2014 10: 50
          +1
          Quote: smile
          What do we get?
          1. All Ukrainian people are outraged by such a voyage and rally against the interventionists.

          It is sometimes interesting to read the comments 3 days ago)) Yes, I generally sometimes re-read old komenty)) a lot of interesting ....
  12. GSH-18
    GSH-18 27 February 2014 08: 52
    +2
    It is necessary to support financially the southeast of Ukraine. So that they feel that there is also power behind them. Then they themselves can cope.
    1. Walk
      Walk 27 February 2014 09: 37
      +3
      No financial support needed. In the case of humanitarian problems - humanitarian assistance, in case of armed conflict - assistance with weapons and instructors. And finances will go nowhere. If they consider themselves an independent state (and the majority considers it), then let them learn to stand up for themselves and their relatives.
  13. saag
    saag 27 February 2014 08: 53
    +10
    The revolution begins to devour their children, do not bother her
    1. I am a Russian
      I am a Russian 1 March 2014 00: 39
      0
      Quote: saag
      The revolution begins to devour their children, do not bother her


      Is the self-cleaning process started?
  14. demotivator
    demotivator 27 February 2014 09: 10
    +6
    Quote: EvilLion
    We want war wake up!

    Well, is it difficult to write in Russian? And what about those who did not learn English, but, say, "German? And in general, what is this manner of showing" learning "in this way? As my grandson sometimes puts it on the forums on the Internet:" There are too many bukaf and everything is incomprehensible " ...
  15. paul72
    paul72 27 February 2014 09: 15
    +2
    the main thing now is not to make convulsive and hasty movements.
    the story does not end there.
    it is necessary to support pro-Russian forces and, preferably, not in the open.
    there will probably be volunteers who want to go to Little Russia and the Crimea.
    enough weapons in warehouses, money too (found 15 yards for Yanukovych)
  16. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 27 February 2014 09: 17
    +1
    from the Don.
    Many will prefer the 3 step-leave from Ukraine!
    1. Walk
      Walk 27 February 2014 09: 42
      +1
      In fact, very few. It is very difficult to make any global decisions in your destiny. Many will drag the decision to the last.
      1. borisjdin1957
        borisjdin1957 27 February 2014 10: 36
        0
        from the Don.
        But whoever pulls may lose. The story of the Uzbeks, Kyrgyz, etc.!
        1. Walk
          Walk 27 February 2014 11: 07
          0
          This is not the case. The percentage of Russians in Ukraine is much higher than in Central Asia, and accordingly, it will be much more difficult to squeeze them out. Yes, I think it will not come to that. The new "authorities" have already been defeated ... in full, they should somehow keep the power in Kiev and in the west. There is no money, the EU and the states do not give, and Russia was not able to dissolve to enter troops, as the puppeteers had hoped. The new mayor of Lviv has already begun to speak Russian.
  17. VadimSt
    VadimSt 27 February 2014 09: 21
    +5
    In general, Ukraine was swept by a wave of total betrayal.

    It began back in the elections to the Verkhovna Rada in 2012. Then, many already understood that Yanukovych and the Party of Regions had betrayed the voters! There were many self-nominated candidates in majoritarian districts, but that was not the case. Efremov, the ideologist of the Party of Regions and the leader of the Party of Regions faction in the Verkhovna Rada, in fact the second person in the party, did everything to ensure that the nominees of the Party of Regions were promoted to the Parliament through the majority districts. For this, everything was applied: bribery, intimidation, discrediting, pressure on business, the press of law enforcement agencies. And he did it. The result is known, it was these "Efremov's doves" who were the first to announce their withdrawal from the PR and support the new government. And it is not necessary, today, to expect, for example, that in the Luhansk region, where Efremov "directs everything and everything," the authorities and officials will contribute to the popular resistance. It is a pity that ordinary members of the PR did not understand the role of this Judas in what happened!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 27 February 2014 10: 35
      +4
      Quote: VadimSt
      And it is not necessary, today, to expect, for example, that in the Luhansk region, where Efremov "directs everything and everything," the authorities and officials will contribute to the popular resistance. It is a pity that ordinary members of the PR did not understand the role of this Judas in what happened!

      Here are two examples ...
      The governor of the Lugansk region Vladimir Pristyuk today at a meeting with public organizations of the region said that he was being threatened, the polemic correspondent reports. “They threaten me. They called and said that if I didn’t resign today, it would be bad for me and my family, ”Pristyuk said. However, the governor noted that he would resign only when a new head of the region was determined. “Someone needs this parade of resignations of governors. I won’t resign, I won’t betray you, ”Pristyuk said. He also noted that he understands that in the next two weeks the region will still change its leader. However, he noted that he remains a deputy of the regional council and will continue to work for the benefit of the Luhansk region.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139918.html
      XXXX
      And at the same time - Efremov "with honest, honorable eyes" condemning Yanukovych, do people remember, do people even know WHO he is?
      Ukrainian Forbes systematizes the information of the nationwide portal "State Purchases" (government procurement) - to find out who earns the most from government procurements. And in this “ranking of tender champions” the last name of Mr. Efremov is invariably present. Billion-dollar amounts!
  18. region46
    region46 27 February 2014 09: 29
    0
    it is clear that the author is overwhelmed by emotions, it is chaotically written, but the ideas are all true
    1. VadimSt
      VadimSt 27 February 2014 10: 02
      0
      The emotions and reality of what is happening are not the same thing. I would look at your emotions if you were evicted from your apartment due to a change in power!
      1. Leszik_2283
        Leszik_2283 27 February 2014 18: 40
        0
        Quote: VadimSt
        The emotions and reality of what is happening are not the same thing. I would look at your emotions if you were evicted from your apartment due to a change in power!

        Yes, Yanuca has a problem here
  19. Name
    Name 27 February 2014 09: 45
    +3
    You know, but for me, so DICTATURE IN RUSSIA nowadays is just NECESSARY. And this is not about a tyrant, but about a DICTOR (!), About who can save RUSSIA! And do not confuse TIRANIA with DICTATURE! Do not consider pathos, but: The tyrant takes power and clings to it with all his might. The dictator comes to power, serving a great purpose, for which he came.... Remember Stalin, he saved the USSR. Who is he a tyrant or DICTATOR ... I am inclined to the second option. hi
  20. Walk
    Walk 27 February 2014 10: 00
    +2
    Judging by the comments in the European press, those who maydanut and those who have joined them are still in euphoria from the seizure of power, and the protégés of the EU began to understand what trap they had driven themselves into. There is no money, the power is frostbitten, with which it is impossible to negotiate, the eastern regions (generating income) are in no hurry to obey Kiev, on the contrary, they promise not to give money. And Russia, which is typical, is in no hurry to send troops, giving it a reason to hang all the dogs on itself, and is not going to give the "new power" money. Why is there money, is not going to notice this "power" at all. The sworn friends hoped that there would be two options: either we will try to work out and try to somehow interact with this "power" in order to protect the Russians on the territory of Ukraine, or we will introduce troops, and the third option, that we will ignore these ... they did not expect. And the script for such a development of events was not written. And only the Yusovites and NATO feel at ease. Judging by their statements, they wanted to make Ukraine a second Egypt, where there is no special war, but constant anarchy with the victims of confrontation.
  21. timm65
    timm65 27 February 2014 10: 19
    0
    Putin, with his laissez-faire, largely repeats Yanukovych’s mistakes. Or he doesn’t know what to do or knows, but he spits on everyone and everything. In Serbia, farther, at one time they were not afraid to land an landing, although the situation there was no better. were shocked, if you remember. And no one even blundered. And here what happens? Throw YOURSELF ??? And it turns out that after Ukraine and we can expect the same fate.
    1. Walk
      Walk 27 February 2014 10: 26
      +3
      To leave their own, these must appear. You can help Russian people defend themselves from enemies, but you can not come and protect someone who does not ask for help. This will be an attack on a sovereign country. This has been written about more than once here. So far no one has asked for help.
  22. OPTR
    OPTR 27 February 2014 10: 30
    +3
    Quote: Standard Oil
    Grandfather Lenin said and wrote a lot of clever and intelligent words, but I consider his statement about “Any cook” who “can run the state” to be erroneous, to put it mildly.


    Great work of propaganda. If you read the works of Lenin himself, discarding intentional distortions, then the meaning of this phrase is the same - the state should study manage everything, every citizen.
    This is a chance of real democracy, not formal.
    And if you think that a nekukharka is much smarter, then look at how nekukharka doppravlivali before the Bolsheviks came to power.
    We also learn to some extent from this resource, but only theoretically.
  23. BLACK-SHARK-64
    BLACK-SHARK-64 27 February 2014 10: 53
    0
    Alexander clearly and correctly explains the situation. I liked his analysis of what is happening. Any war always starts with an "information war". Brainwashing of the people. And if the flushing took place for more than 20 years, a whole mature generation of "ANTIRUSS" grew up. Think about it ...
  24. Old warrant officer
    Old warrant officer 27 February 2014 10: 59
    0
    Has the FSB really lost the skills of the KGB and cannot help the leaders of the Natsiks unexpectedly leave the mortal world?
    1. Walk
      Walk 27 February 2014 11: 18
      0
      It's too early. If it goes on like this, the puppeteers themselves will hand over these "Fuhrer" to the "angry people of Ukraine." By the way, in my opinion, this is the only chance for the EU leaders to somehow preserve their image of "white and fluffy". With their statements, more and more they are digging a hole for themselves, in which there will not be flowers at all.
  25. terrible
    terrible 27 February 2014 11: 29
    +1
    Anyone who can keep weapons in the Crimea!
  26. Prapor Afonya
    Prapor Afonya 27 February 2014 11: 33
    0
    Quote: Arhj
    And in the spring in Europe, elections to the European Parliament. I wonder which of the deputies in Europe will now vote for the allocation of money to Ukraine and how the voter will vote when he finds out that with a bunch of internal problems, Europe has allocated to a state that is not even part of the EU association, an amount equal to almost half of Portugal’s aid, equal to Greece’s and three times exceeding aid to Cyprus.

    Now all hope is for Putin, he will choose active actions (albeit secret and special ones) against brown Ukraine, or he will merge it together with the Russian people!
  27. cpk72
    cpk72 27 February 2014 12: 12
    0
    LIGHTNING: Decree of the President of Ukraine No. 90/2014 of February 27, 2014
    http://anna-news.info/node/13745
    1. Walk
      Walk 27 February 2014 12: 46
      0
      I would like confirmation. But if this is indeed true, then an interesting situation is emerging. There is no chance for our sworn friends to remain silent. We must clearly take sides, and now it’s like a sharp knife for them ... well, you understand.
    2. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 27 February 2014 12: 55
      0
      Doubtful enough. The mind needs a video message.
      1. Walk
        Walk 27 February 2014 13: 02
        0
        I agree. And, preferably, in a place recognized by the inhabitants of Ukraine, so that they would not think that he was hiding somewhere underground.
        1. lewerlin53rus
          lewerlin53rus 27 February 2014 13: 09
          0
          If Yanuk had denied and dumped over a hill, he would have been forgotten. And now they need his corpse. Otherwise they are not legitimate
    3. Russ69
      Russ69 27 February 2014 13: 58
      0
      It will be real if Janek reads the decree in front of the camera.
      But Ilyin is now the Armed Forces of Crimea
    4. Kunar
      Kunar 27 February 2014 14: 51
      0
      The pastor learned)))
      The movement of the military of the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation on the territory of Crimea will be regarded as military aggression against Ukraine, said Parliament Speaker, Acting President Alexander Turchinov at a meeting of the Verkhovna Rada.
      According to ITAR-TASS, Turchinov called on the Russian military "to be in the territories provided for by bilateral agreements."
      "Any movement outside these territories will be regarded as aggression. The Ukrainian state will be able to protect its sovereignty and territorial integrity," he said.
      Turchinov also said that he gave instructions to apply all measures to protect citizens in Crimea, to unblock buildings seized in Simferopol, Interfax reports. "To take all measures to protect citizens and punish those responsible for the seizure in accordance with the law, as well as on the unblocking of the building. They call on all Ukrainians to remain calm, patriots to protect administrative buildings from provocateurs and extremists. Any attempt to seize administrative buildings will be regarded as a crime against the Ukrainian state. ", - he said during the plenary session of the Rada in Kiev.
      Meanwhile, those who occupied the building of the Council of Ministers and the Supreme Council of Crimea said they were ready to let in only the speaker of the Crimean parliament and the legally elected deputies.
      Now about 10 thousand people are demonstrating near the building of the Supreme Council of Crimea. Among them there are both supporters of the new Ukrainian government and opponents. Some are chanting - "Crimea is not Russia", "Ukraine, Ukraine". Others, under the flags of Crimea and Russia, chant "Russia, Russia".
      According to the Ministry of Health of Crimea, as of the morning of February 27, the number of people injured during yesterday's clashes reached 35 people, two people died.
  28. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 27 February 2014 13: 15
    +1
    In Simferopol, in general, some misunderstandings are happening what
    1. lewerlin53rus
      lewerlin53rus 27 February 2014 13: 31
      +2
      Armored personnel carriers near Simferopol. No one answers questions. There are no identification marks.
      1. smile
        smile 27 February 2014 14: 42
        0
        lewerlin53rus
        Interesting ... the lack of numbers and identification marks on cars suggests different thoughts ...
        1. His
          His 1 March 2014 00: 27
          0
          Yes, our guys. Conducted by WHO. Heroes of the new Russia. Keep it up. It's time to break the ridge of the fascist plague from geyropa
  29. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 27 February 2014 13: 34
    0
    <<< Unlike the West, which easily violates all formal agreements (for example, the West "threw" Yanukovych), Moscow adheres to the concept of legitimism. They say that the events in Kiev are an internal affair of the Ukrainian authorities, and we do not interfere. As a result, the West calmly did everything it wanted in Kiev. >>>
    Maybe ENOUGH to constantly find yourself in fools in relations with the West! The history of the reign of Alexander I, Nicholas I, who also supported the concept of legitimism, does it really teach nothing? Relations with the West can only be built from the "tit-for-tat" position (or better, two for a tune, so that it’s clear)! At the same time, Russia does not have to declare at all corners of its intention to intervene in the events in Ukraine, it must be quiet, but FIRM, as they say, without noise and dust (however, the West "worked" there in the same way) to do its own thing in Ukraine, bend its line: our base is much stronger than that of the West! By interfering in the affairs of Ukraine through the seizure of power by neo-fascist Bandera thugs, the West crossed the "red line", after which Russia must flush all the politeness, all the reboot verbiage down the toilet and decisively and firmly make the West understand that you WILL NOT GET Ukraine!
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 27 February 2014 14: 05
      +1
      Quote: Goldmitro
      Unlike the West

      here is the US position but not mine laughing as the information I put ---
      In Washington, they talk about the lack of transparency of the Russian military exercises announced near the border with Ukraine. The United States warned Russia against military intervention in Ukraine's affairs, saying it would be a "serious" and "very expensive" mistake, Voice of America reports.
      US Secretary of State John Kerry issued a warning to Moscow after Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the alarm to raise 150 troops to conduct exercises near the border with Ukraine. This step was the boldest gesture of Moscow after the removal from the post of president of Russia's ally Viktor Yanukovych.
      “For a country that has so often opposed military intervention in Libya, Syria and other places, it is important to listen to these warnings when they discuss options for action on a sovereign country, Ukraine,” Kerry told a small group of journalists at the State Department.
      “I don’t think that anyone has any doubt that any military intervention that violates the sovereign territorial integrity of Ukraine will be a huge, serious mistake,” the Secretary of State continued.
      “I think that such a decision, if adopted, will not be cheap. I think it will be a very expensive decision, ”he said.
  30. Umnichka
    Umnichka 27 February 2014 13: 37
    +1
    Twice a note fails. I am writing briefly. The article is a huge minus - it started right, and then it justified, justified the betrayal of its own people. I can’t even express what bad feelings I feel for such authors. Open enemies are easier.
  31. serge
    serge 27 February 2014 13: 51
    +1
    If the Russian structures of the Southeast are weak, they must be helped, not moaned. Money, people, weapons. And in Kharkov, the Russians should not drive round dance around Ilyich, but throw off the mayor, who sold himself to the Nazis under the threat of confiscation of his deposits in the west.
  32. nikcris
    nikcris 27 February 2014 13: 56
    +1
    Quote: GSH-18
    It is necessary to support financially the southeast of Ukraine. So that they feel that there is also power behind them. Then they themselves can cope.

    Are you rich Support. I do not want. Cuba, Vietnam supported. I do not want Ukraine.
    Who, in fact, will you support, if you will? Yanyka with Akhmetov? Are you richer than them and your treb pennies to them?
  33. Alexandr 2
    Alexandr 2 27 February 2014 13: 58
    +2
    "The West has created a 'fork' (trap) for Russia. If Russia interferes in Ukraine's affairs - it's bad. Doesn't interfere - it's even worse." Yes, for Russia now is a difficult situation, as has not been in our history for a long time. Let's wish our Putin and the government wisdom in making the right decisions.
    1. 222222
      222222 27 February 2014 15: 12
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      Alexandr 2 RU Today, 13:58 PM
      "The West has created a fork for Russia ..."
      West and especially the United States understand and respect (!!!!) only power .. They gave a snot in Vtnam .. oh, how they fled !!! look how long there have been no wars on their part .. They are not embarrassed to solve their strategic problems by war in all regions of the world, while attracting the so-called coalitions from the states of their satellites .. and at the same time they shout that they are bringing democracy .. really in the form of heads Tomahawks ..
  34. Roman555
    Roman555 27 February 2014 14: 16
    +4
    And what is valuable in Ukraine for Russia? Land? We have tens of thousands of settlements in desolation. Industry? The remnants of the luxury of the USSR. Crimea? Yes, he has a convenient geographical position.

    But the main value of Ukraine for Russia is: Russian people, who are lacking in Russia.

    If Russophobic sentiments in Ukraine and persecution of Russians continue, then Russia (with proper planning, financing and the strong will of the government, with our help, not just in words but in practice) will have a unique opportunity to solve the demographic problem and replace the guest workers' army with representatives of the titular, educated nation, sharing the cultural and moral standards of our country.
  35. repytw
    repytw 27 February 2014 14: 56
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    "Now at the building of the Crimean parliament there are about a thousand protesters, reports the agency" Crimean News "and specifies that those gathered came to support the invaders of the Crimean buildings, demand the separation of Crimea from Ukraine and its entry into Russia."


    I ask who can make a topic dedicated to the events in Simferopol. That the news from Crimea would go straight to the forum, it would be contradictory and mostly Ukrainized.
    1. Leszik_2283
      Leszik_2283 27 February 2014 18: 34
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      What's happening? Poor relatives came to the door - so think what to do
  36. Zomanus
    Zomanus 27 February 2014 15: 07
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    It is clear that Russia will not go for direct, open opposition. For dogs are hanging on her and figs then you show yourself a peacemaker. Now there will be an undercover struggle to gain control of the territories. And we can see this struggle only by results. So for now, just sit and watch.
  37. Kunar
    Kunar 27 February 2014 15: 16
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    Order of Yanukovych. If not a duck, then yes ....
    I bring the whole, Schaub for the story.
    Decree of the President of Ukraine No. 90 / 2014 of February 27 2014

    (Translated from Ukrainian)

    22-23 February in Ukraine there was a military coup in which groups of armed Nazi militants with military-political support of foreign powers seized the central government in the capital city of Kiev, and a number of regional administrations in the western part of the country.

    Some of the political forces of Ukraine acted as traitors to the people and collaborators, collaborating with fascists who seized state power in the capital, with the goal of forming a puppet government entirely dependent on external sponsors of this coup, represented by the United States of America and NATO countries, primarily Germany and Poland. Fascist gangs ousted employees of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine from Kiev, captured the Central Rada, and instituted reprisals against deputies who did not support the coup, including beatings, abductions, burning houses and threats of reprisals against deputies and their families. In this regard, the continuation of the activities of the constitutional authorities in Kiev became impossible for military reasons.
  38. Kunar
    Kunar 27 February 2014 15: 17
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    To cover the goals of the coup d'état, the participants used the “Agreement on the settlement of the crisis in Ukraine” of February 21 of 2014, in which, together with me they stated: “They intend to form a coalition and form a Government of national unity within 10 days”, before the first Martha. This Agreement was initialed by the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of France, Germany and Poland, who later not only failed to fulfill their obligations as guarantors of the Agreement, but also took a direct part in promoting a coup in Ukraine.

    The President of Ukraine remains the only party to this Agreement, which strictly and fully complied with its obligations. In connection with the expiration of the period announced by the Agreement of February 21 for the formation of the Government of National Unity in Ukraine, and the attempts of some couriers to form their own illegal puppet government in Kiev, I announce the following measures of the legitimate authority of Ukraine to restore the constitutional order: 1. Repeal Presidential Decree No. 52/2014 of January 28, 2014 “On the resignation of the Prime Minister of Ukraine and the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine”. Members of the Cabinet of Ministers, their deputies, and heads of departments and services to arrive at the point indicated by me in the Circular Letter to continue the work of the legitimate Government of Ukraine in the manner provided for by Decree No. 950 “On Confirming Regulation to the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine.” The Cabinet of Misters should take exhaustive measures for restoration of public administration, and fulfillment of the Government’s social obligations in regions not occupied by the putschists, paying particular attention to the issues of paying pensions, allowances, and measures of social support for the population in the regions, as well as resolving material issues and paying salaries to law enforcement agencies loyal to the legitimate authority, and determining measures of material support National squads and sources of their financing. In case of insufficient funds, to betray for the purposes the deployment of the services of the People’s Squads in the regions of any state property, and the right to use it locally.
  39. Kunar
    Kunar 27 February 2014 15: 18
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    2. Determine the location of the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander of Ukraine - the Headquarters of the Navy of Ukraine, Sevastopol. The Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Navy, Admiral Yuriy Ilyin, to take comprehensive measures to establish communications with all parts, units and ships of the Armed Forces of the Ukrainian Navy in order to comply with the unconditional sovereignty, territorial integrity and protection of the legitimate government bodies of Ukraine. Temporarily assign him the duties of chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. To all commanders of units, subunits and ships no more than 24 hours after the promulgation of the Decree, to get in touch with the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander in the city of Sevastopol, about which I have issued Order No. 1 of the Supreme Commander. After the expiration of the specified period, consider all commanders who have not complied with the requirements of the Order as traitors, without an additional Order, to deprive them of their military rank, with stripping off the epaulettes before the formation. Junior officers take measures to remove them, including the use of weapons to defeat those who have resisted, in order to immediately comply with the Orders of the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander, and report on the execution of the order to the Chief of the General Staff in Sevastopol.

    3. Heads of the militia and the SBU of Ukraine go over to military service in the order specified by order No. XXUMX of the Supreme Commander, All commanders of the police units within 2 hours after promulgation of the Decree to get in touch with the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander in the city of Sevastopol. After the expiration of this period, consider all commanders of the police and SBU units who have not fulfilled the requirements of Order No. XXUMX as traitors, without an additional Order to remove them from office, with the aim of the junior officers to take measures to remove them, including the use of weapons to defeat resistance, with the aim of immediately fulfilling the Orders of the Supreme Commander’s Stake, and to report on the implementation of the Order to me personally.

    4. To foreign powers wishing to maintain diplomatic relations with Ukraine, to send their naval attachés for communication with the legal leadership of the country to the main headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy, Sevastopol, before creating the conditions for accreditation of foreign embassies in it.
    1. nikcris
      nikcris 27 February 2014 18: 28
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      Do you want me to compose a stack of such documents for you now?
      "4. For foreign powers wishing to maintain diplomatic relations with Ukraine, send their naval attachés to communicate with the legitimate leadership of the country to the main headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy, Sevastopol, until conditions for accreditation of foreign embassies are created in it."
      But it makes, well, no words, but you can’t swear ...
      DEBILS and those and these. They would have gone already on the Dnieper wide drown.
  40. Kunar
    Kunar 27 February 2014 15: 18
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    5. Determine the location of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine and the National Bank of Ukraine at the location of the Supreme Commander General Headquarters. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Head of the Central Bank to warn foreign powers about the inadmissibility of the theft of Ukraine’s financial reserves, which only the legal authorities of the country have the right to dispose of, and to restore correspondent relations with international banks and financial organizations. In the case of theft. appropriating or freezing these funds, or using them at the direction of the illegal provisional authorities of Kiev, to compensate for the losses due to the nationalization of funds and property owned by the Governments, organizations and citizens of the countries concerned, up to a judicial decision of this issue in the interests of Ukraine. In this regard, the Government should freeze all assets of foreign companies and any companies with foreign participation and transfer them to full state administration, until the confirmation of the readiness of foreign powers to faithfully fulfill their financial obligations to the legal Government of Ukraine.

    6. Offer everyone loyal to the Constitution of Ukraine to deputies of the Verkhovna Rada to arrive in the city of Sevastopol for the 3 March 2014 mobile session, with an agenda on depriving them of immunity and deputy powers of the armed coup in the city of Kiev, before the elections to the Verkhovna Rada and the resumption of its work under the occupation of the historical capital country.

    7. To the elected authorities in the regions of Ukraine, by March 3, to propose to me the candidatures of the leaders of the respective regions, from among the deputies, or citizens loyal to the legal Government of the country. Candidates with mandates from representative authorities should arrive in the city of Sevastopol by March 3, for approval by me as Governors. Prior to this period, all elected local authorities should form People’s Squads, from among those loyal to the legitimate Government of the country, appointing them as heads of officers with military experience, or employees of the Berkut and Internal Troops units who have distinguished themselves by their personal courage in defending the legitimate authorities in the city of Kiev, as well as independently take all necessary measures to restore constitutional order throughout Ukraine.

    President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych
    27 February 2014 of the year
    1. sapran
      sapran 28 February 2014 00: 53
      0
      Tomorrow they announced a press conference ... Rostov on Don. Perhaps it will take place ...
    2. Egen
      Egen 28 February 2014 08: 35
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      Quote: Kunar
      President of Ukraine Viktor YANUKOVICH27 fierce 2014 rock

      Well, if this is true - then well done man, and it was necessary to do so for a long time ... we'll see.
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  41. Leshka
    Leshka 27 February 2014 15: 52
    0
    this is a national catastrophe
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 27 February 2014 17: 34
      0
      Quote: Leshka
      this is a national catastrophe

      What happened or what openly said about it?
  42. Scherbakov Ilya
    Scherbakov Ilya 27 February 2014 16: 22
    0
    uraaaaa Crimea will receive independence !!!!!!! here’s the answer of our dear president, well, handsome Vladimir Vladimirovich respected him. so keep Russia with you.
  43. Scherbakov Ilya
    Scherbakov Ilya 27 February 2014 16: 26
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    Ukraine should turn to NATO if it turns out that Russian special forces are operating in Crimea, said Vitaliy Yarema, a candidate for the position of First Deputy Prime Minister.
    "I hope that this is just some kind of bandit group that we will quickly deal with," Yarema said.
    “If this is Russian special forces, this is an aggression of a foreign state, this will already be an appeal to NATO. The relevant international agreements are already entering and ... how we will continue to act, let's not think about it yet, ”he said. RBC-Ukraine
    Yes, no need to think, we all thought !!!
  44. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 27 February 2014 17: 03
    0
    Poles flew from the right forces of Ukraine unexpected man. Here the pans will rejoice! fellow
  45. nikcris
    nikcris 27 February 2014 18: 19
    +1
    Quote: Roman555
    And what is valuable in Ukraine for Russia? Land? We have tens of thousands of settlements in desolation. Industry? The remnants of the luxury of the USSR. Crimea? Yes, he has a convenient geographical position.

    But the main value of Ukraine for Russia is: Russian people, who are lacking in Russia.

    If Russophobic sentiments in Ukraine and persecution of Russians continue, then Russia (with proper planning, financing and the strong will of the government, with our help, not just in words but in practice) will have a unique opportunity to solve the demographic problem and replace the guest workers' army with representatives of the titular, educated nation, sharing the cultural and moral standards of our country.

    Another one from the inside of the Moscow Ring Road has spoken (he was afraid to insert the correct word instead of "spoken" - they will be banned). Well, what can I say - people have never been closer to Russia than Bali. He has no idea that outside the Moscow Ring Road the janitors and cleaners are Russian. Yes, and I have a zap for morons to chew repeat
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    2. Roman555
      Roman555 27 February 2014 22: 18
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      Thanks for the cultured and well-reasoned comment. How exactly can you find out about the whereabouts of others by just one message. Are you Wanga? Your "Well, Che" alone expands the horizons of the Russian language, but "to chew morons" gives you a deeply intelligent person.
  46. Leszik_2283
    Leszik_2283 27 February 2014 18: 31
    -1
    It seems that I read the soviet agitation. Moscow, if only their flashing lights are not touched, they will go to the "small victorious war". There are enough of their own problems, and instead of Schaub solve them all urgently Bandera's life began to spoil. Anything current is not work. And not Europe, but instead of drowning in spirituality with ears on the toilet seat
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 27 February 2014 18: 42
      +1
      Quote: Leszik_2283
      Moscow, if only their flashing lights are not touched, they will go to the "small victorious war"

      I was always interested in _ Why the meaner the posts, the less experience on the site. We have in VO these goodies that are tracked by posts and
      1. Leszik_2283
        Leszik_2283 28 February 2014 17: 27
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        I am from Siberia - the Kolyma region will not scare anyone from us - neither Germans, nor Poles, nor Hungarians, nor Ukrainians smile We have an international here - almost an EU.
  47. Duelist
    Duelist 28 February 2014 16: 58
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    Quote: vladimirZ
    It is not clear Putin's prolonged silence. Who Putin will be the next Gorbachev, or the SAVIOR and PATRIOT IN HEAD OF RUSSIA, who had not been on Russian soil for a long time

    Nifiga, silence! Everything is already clear, if you want the support of Russia, speak out against the bandits of the Maidan, declare that you want this freedom - otherwise Putin will be called an occupant by Westerners.
  48. Horn
    Horn 28 February 2014 19: 45
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    Quote: Leszik_2283
    I am from Siberia - the Kolyma region will not scare anyone from us - neither Germans, nor Poles, nor Hungarians, nor Ukrainians smile We have an international here - almost an EU.

    - There is also an international in Altai. But some can be scared by the Siberian climate:

    azalis-ot-uchastiya-v-ucheniyah.html> wink
  49. Rubon
    Rubon 1 March 2014 06: 46
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    Obama made an appeal to the American people about the situation in Ukraine ... promised to keep everyone informed of events and warned Putin against unreasoned steps winked
    I am now very concerned about the reaction of LGBT people to the situation in Crimea ... wassat
    1. Kiroant
      Kiroant 3 March 2014 11: 23
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      Really interesting. Allow rear-wheel drive banderlogs to hold their parades?
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