Crimea as part of the Russian Federation? Analyze the situation

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What do Crimeans, thirsting for joining Russia, think? What are their expectations?

Let's assume that this crazy scenario has become a reality, and the Autonomous Republic of Crimea acquired the status of a subject of the Russian Federation.

In Novoalekseevka and Kalanchak Crimea begins by land. On these roads and railway tracks there will be roadblocks, there is no connection by land with Russia. Food supplies for 2,2 million people will depend on the enemy country and can be carried out only by sea from Russia, at Russian prices. In the nearest large Russian city of Novorossiysk, prices in 30-60% supermarkets are higher than those in Sevastopol, in cafes - by 200-300%, manufactured goods and services are more expensive by 50-150%. And it still needs to be delivered.

Water and electricity will end in 1-24 hours after joining the Russian Federation. After all, everything comes from the Kherson region. Transportation of gas through the Ukrainian gas transportation system to the Crimea will cease instantly. All utilities and industry will stop on the first day, food will end in 2-3 of the day, medicines will be bought even faster, there will be no gasoline even before the annexation (as gasoline is bought up in panic, I saw it a week ago in Kiev). Prices will rise many times, and goods will start to be bought only for dollars / euro, because the hryvnia will become illiquid, and the ruble will not be enough for everyone.

A humanitarian catastrophe will start: the shortage of food, water, medicines, there will be no electricity ... Tritely there will be nothing to flush in the toilet, there is nothing to prepare food for, there will be no fuel to take the garbage out of the city, etc.

600 thousand. Crimean pensioners will instantly cease to receive pensions, state employees - wages. From the state budget of Ukraine, they will stop financing the expenses of the Crimea (only 30% of expenses will be independently covered by Crimea). Ukraine will cease cooperation with all the Crimean factories, factories, private firms (nothing strategically important in the Crimea is not produced, and there will be only local losses to partner firms in Ukraine).

250 Thousands of Tatar Muslims who support the integrity of Ukraine will find themselves in the same plight. Riots and pogroms will begin, which, perhaps, will be able to soften, but definitely not suppress the Russian Black Sea Fleet. Financing of the Tatar militants and replenishment of their ranks from Turkey, Syria, Saud. Arabia will begin in a week or two.

Without electricity and water, 50-70% of industry and non-irrigated land will not be able to recover the coming years.

There will be chaos, famine, devastation and military conflicts.

What can and what can Russia not do?

It will be able to proclaim moral support for Crimeans, stop "violent Ukrainization", announce the elimination of "fascist-Bandera", establish martial law, a couple of days later start distributing food brought by the sea (for 2 million people, at least 1 kg per day per person no fleet not enough to bring), start distribution weapons and passports, in a couple of weeks to arrange the supply of clothing and household goods in the form of humanitarian aid (no one can buy at the market price).

In the coming years, he will never be able to adjust the supply of water, gas, electricity, gasoline, or stop the war (guerrilla or open conflict between the Tatars and rebels against the Russian Federation). If they allocate billions of dollars, they will be immediately withdrawn from the Crimea in all possible ways, because they will soon become illiquid within the ARC.

If Ukraine is simply fenced off with a concrete wall and roadblocks, and this is easy to do - take a look at the map and declare Crimea a seized territory (and why would it be different?), Then the ARC will turn into the real Mordor, without exaggeration. And that is if Ukraine simply dissociates itself, and the world community will not interfere.

It is impossible within the framework of the notes to assume and describe everything that will happen in this case. But, I think, to sum up the everyday life of the Middle Ages, the script of the film “Life after people” and the situation in Afghanistan will turn out to be close to a new reality ...

Anyone who disagrees with this, find another, geographically and politically similar example, which ended well. Russia will have to cope with the absolutely dependent 2,2 million peninsula, without having any ties with it.
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  1. DS14
    +40
    27 February 2014 07: 20
    An article from the Ukrainian media?
    1. Horde
      +69
      27 February 2014 07: 24
      Water and electricity will end in 1-24 hours after joining the Russian Federation. After all, everything comes from the Kherson region.

      there is no problem, so we take KHERSON, too, except for jokes, this is also not a Bandera city ...
      1. Horde
        +23
        27 February 2014 07: 28
        If Ukraine is simply fenced off with a concrete wall and roadblocks, and this is easy to do - take a look at the map yourself and declare Crimea a seized territory (why not be different?), The ARC will turn into a real Mordor, without exaggeration.


        which Ukraine? lvof or what? I don’t give a damn about KHARKOV, LUGANSK, DNIPROPETROVSK, DONETSK, ODESSA — they will help each other, besides there is little hope for Russia ...
        1. +28
          27 February 2014 07: 43
          Quote: VALERY (morpex)
          It is impossible within the framework of the notes to assume and describe everything that will happen in this case. But, I think, to sum up the everyday life of the Middle Ages, the script of the film “Life after people” and the situation in Afghanistan will turn out to be close to a new reality ...

          This is just what is now in reality on the streets of Kiev and other cities of western and central Ukraine. In Crimea, the relative order. And yet, South Ossetia and Russia were connected by a thin thread of the Roki tunnel, it turned out to be sufficient to solve all problems, including forcing Georgia to peace, the Kerch Strait is much wider. Note minus.
          1. +37
            27 February 2014 08: 22
            It will be necessary - we will fall asleep. Although I do not see any problems in supplying Sevastopol. Kaliningrad lives and nothing ...
            1. Candy wrapper
              -17
              27 February 2014 10: 03
              To introduce Crimea into the Russian Federation is counter-productive, but to prevent repressions against Russians, Jews, Hungarians, etc. in Crimea, in the south and southeast of Ukraine, the Russian Federation is obliged. It is necessary to state openly that the Russian Federation will support the integrity of Ukraine and will not accept any of its parts, but in case of repressions on the basis of nationality, the Russian Federation, as a guarantor of the integrity of Ukraine, will be forced to conduct an operation to force militant nationalists to peace (naturally with physical liquidation of their leaders) since they represent the main threat to the territorial integrity of Ukraine. You can try to agree to carry out such an operation together with NATO, in order to share the burden of financial burden with them, they refuse - to hell with them, and not help with the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan.
              1. +10
                27 February 2014 11: 06
                agree to hold jointly with NATO

                Are you seriously???
                That is, you are talking about the integrity of Ukraine and at the same time you are proposing the introduction of NATO and Russian troops, which will lead to the actual division of Ukraine into the west and east ... Mdaaaa ...
                1. Candy wrapper
                  0
                  27 February 2014 20: 08
                  You do not know how to read or see poorly? It seems that many on this resource suffer from this, I write one thing in the comments, and srach bred on them about something completely different. It’s like in that saying: the deaf will not hear, he’ll think up ... I don’t offer to send troops to Ukraine, I offer a joint special. operation to eliminate the leaders of Ukrainian nationalists.
                  1. +2
                    27 February 2014 21: 21
                    Quote: Fantik
                    I do not propose to send troops to Ukraine, I propose a joint special. operation to eliminate the leaders of Ukrainian nationalists.

                    belay And how do you see it? The United States has long been uncovering that it has invested 5 lards in the collapse of Ukraine, i.e. this money is invested in those against whom you propose to conduct a "joint" special operation. Absurd, isn't it? Who will kill their own "brainchild" into which so much money is thrown into it that it would be enough for all of Ukraine for a long time?
                    1. Candy wrapper
                      -1
                      28 February 2014 13: 31
                      These same radicals seem to have gotten out of US control. They screwed up in full, if they would have settled on those agreements with Yanukovych on re-election in December, then the preponderance of the elections (given the hostility of most Ukrainians to the stealing Party of Regions) would be in the hands of pro-Western politicians. But the radicals did not stop and carried out an armed seizure of power, forced unpopular laws, and their militants atrocities in the streets of Ukrainian cities beating residents and destroying monuments. The pro-Western invaders, not having time to come to power, turned a huge number of residents against themselves, and some regions (Odessa and Crimea) refused to obey them at all. Thieves from the Party of Regions are being replaced by new, not soiled, political forces - the United Russia party, for example, there will be others. The dissociation of Crimea, its disagreement to recognize the illegal power as legitimate is not only a vivid example for the Southeast, it essentially put the invaders in Kiev and their western masters in a stalemate: either they will return to the agreements reached with Yanukovych (but already without the former advantage in the elections ), or they will receive the collapse of Ukraine with the departure of the richest regions to the Russian Federation (and this is absolutely unnecessary in the West). So the intemperance of Ukrainian nationalists thwarted all plans of the West and led to its geopolitical defeat in Ukraine - they went too far.
                      The USA was so panicked that for the first time in 50 years they sent a reconnaissance plane (UAV) into our airspace, and found out what Moscow would do. So I think NATO will gladly put a bullet in their forehead for the stress experienced and the collapse of all hopes.
                      1. igorek69
                        0
                        3 March 2014 12: 14
                        You are talking nonsense. Watch less TV, especially ORT and RTR. In Kiev, there is no harassment, neither Jews nor Russians. People speak the language in which they are comfortable. You can trust me. I am a Kievite, not only a Jew, which can be worse, and I do not speak Ukrainian well, of course I understand well and read, but somehow it did not work out with the conversation, although I am a native of Kiev. We are all Ukrainians and we want to live a normal and peaceful life. I have friends of all nationalities and we all communicate with each other in Russian, and at the "most terrible, Bendera place, MAIDAN" and no one has ever said a word to me about nationality and language. And you need to know the Ukrainian language because it is the language of the state in which we live. Why don't you like it when people in Russia don't speak Russian? because if you live in this country, then you need to know the language, but you can communicate with each other in any language. I also speak English fluently, so what? In Crimea, the army was brought in for no apparent reason, even the current head of Crimea said that not a single Russian was hurt. LIGHT BY BROTHERS, LESS WATCHING A TV, BETTER TO ARRIVE IN KIEV AND SEE EVERYTHING WITH YOUR EYES.
                      2. igorek69
                        -1
                        3 March 2014 12: 14
                        You are talking nonsense. Watch less TV, especially ORT and RTR. In Kiev, there is no harassment, neither Jews nor Russians. People speak the language in which they are comfortable. You can trust me. I am a Kievite, not only a Jew, which can be worse, and I do not speak Ukrainian well, of course I understand well and read, but somehow it did not work out with the conversation, although I am a native of Kiev. We are all Ukrainians and we want to live a normal and peaceful life. I have friends of all nationalities and we all communicate with each other in Russian, and at the "most terrible, Bendera place, MAIDAN" and no one has ever said a word to me about nationality and language. And you need to know the Ukrainian language because it is the language of the state in which we live. Why don't you like it when people in Russia don't speak Russian? because if you live in this country, then you need to know the language, but you can communicate with each other in any language. I also speak English fluently, so what? In Crimea, the army was brought in for no apparent reason, even the current head of Crimea said that not a single Russian was hurt. LIGHT BY BROTHERS, LESS WATCHING A TV, BETTER TO ARRIVE IN KIEV AND SEE EVERYTHING WITH YOUR EYES.
                2. Sergey557
                  0
                  2 March 2014 10: 39
                  there were many such idiots in history - some rivers even turned back !!!!
        2. +9
          27 February 2014 08: 01
          Absolute nonsense. I am against the annexation of Crimea to the Russian Federation. An autonomous republic under the Constitution of 92 of the year.
          The rest is pure nonsense. Water? Gas? .. Guys, it’s just everything ... Politics by politics, war by war, and business by business. Russia may well provide 2 and half a million Crimeans with everything they need through the Sea of ​​Azov ...
          1. Fin
            +4
            27 February 2014 09: 45
            Quote: domokl
            The rest is pure nonsense. Water? Gas? .. Guys, it’s just everything ... Politics by politics, war by war, and business by business. Russia may well provide 2 and half a million Crimeans with everything they need through the Sea of ​​Azov ...

            Complete nonsense. "Chernomorneftegaz" offshore production is in full swing, this is the currency. Food? It's easy, transports are brought in from Turkey every day, and the Turks will only be happy to increase the volumes. Water from the Dnieper, try to block the canals, they don't dare even in Africa. Electricity - wind turbines and solar stations are being installed.
            Financing of the Tatar fighters and replenishment of their ranks from Turkey, Syria, Saud. Arabia will begin in a week or two.

            Yeah, on the junks will sail laughing . Crimea is mainly the steppe, what fighters !!! All Crimean mountains are hiking trails, every crack is known. With political will, everything can be controlled.
            1. avt
              +5
              27 February 2014 10: 14
              Quote: Fin
              Complete nonsense.

              No, another self-consolation morpex and in the need to misunderstand the project "Ukraine 1991". We have such "political scientists" from Shevchenko to Venediktov from Svanidze - to the Moon you cannot put cancer, you already howled about "the need for Russia to preserve Ukraine. so again, as in 1991, we must build a Nazi state at our own expense, turn Russians into "Ukrainians" under the watchful eye of the Bandera. ============= "Everyone who does not agree with this, find another, geographically and politically similar example that ended well. Russia will need to cope with an absolutely dependent 2,2 million peninsula, without having any ties with it. " Kaliningrad region.
            2. Sergey557
              0
              2 March 2014 10: 45
              Yeah, Turkey ... and where will the ships from Turkey be unloaded ???? right at the resort ??? or will they go to Sevastopol to replace the ships of the aggressors from the Black Sea Fleet?
          2. +1
            27 February 2014 10: 02
            Quote: domokl
            Absolute nonsense. I am against the annexation of Crimea to the Russian Federation. An autonomous republic under the Constitution of 92 of the year.
            The rest is pure nonsense. Water? Gas? .. Guys, it’s just everything ... Politics by politics, war by war, and business by business. Russia may well provide 2 and half a million Crimeans with everything they need through the Sea of ​​Azov ...

            An independent republic is better, it is more reliable, otherwise the Nazis will constantly provoke.
          3. Sergey557
            0
            2 March 2014 10: 43
            Yeah ... look - pensioners then get money not from the Russian budget, but from the Ukrainian ..... another month - the other and the first who rebel are pensioners ... and then we'll see how much zinc will go to each day rush ... and the golden eagles were given only passports, and only ... and that he is this passport of the Russian Federation, will he spread on a sandwich ???? WHERE IS MONEY, rush ???
        3. GDP
          +17
          27 February 2014 09: 29
          Kaliningrad in general is an enclave far beyond the borders of Russia and nothing lives normally. And the Crimea? - Separated by the Kerch Strait, there are ferry crossings and ports.
          Power plants are not a problem to build. As a last resort, energy can be provided from nuclear icebreakers as a temporary measure.
          Gas, oil - not a problem before Germany in the Baltic region dragged a branch that it is worth throwing it a couple of tens of kilometers across the Strait of Kerch?
          And of course, if Russia intervenes, there will be no blockade, because the whole east of Ukraine will voluntarily withdraw to Russia ...
          1. igorek69
            0
            3 March 2014 12: 22
            I don’t think that the east will depart. Some want a federation, but not joining Russia.
          2. igorek69
            0
            3 March 2014 12: 22
            I don’t think that the east will depart. Some want a federation, but not joining Russia.
        4. +2
          27 February 2014 10: 56
          Quote: Horde
          In addition, there is little hope for Russia ...

          Well, why small? Now Russia is watching, taking while waiting position. If the most gloomy forecasts begin to come true (oppression and squeezing out the Russian-speaking population), then serious opposition and help will begin, both humanitarian and military! All this fragile balance and waiting until the first serious blood! I want to note that the author tried to analyze the situation with only one peninsula? In my opinion this is an erroneous position! If Ukraine begins to fall apart on ethnic and economic grounds, it is certain that Russia will do everything possible to leave this thin thread (isthmus) and defend its influence in such areas as Kherson, Zaporozhye and Donetsk! This is my personal opinion and nothing more!
          Oh ungrateful business, forecasts !!!
      2. +17
        27 February 2014 07: 36
        I did not understand why only Kherson? But what about Odessa ??? There, in principle, the PMR is waiting for Russia for more than one year ... already independent in fact and defended its independence from Moldova with arms in hand ... And if Odessa is captured or sold- PMR will simply be strangled in a "friendly" embrace ...
        1. +4
          27 February 2014 08: 16
          Quote: vo.dum
          But what about Odessa?

          Just like Sevastopol. Only a little bit different tasks are the city is not part of the republic, but an independent administrative autonomous unit of Ukraine. Like, for example, Moscow in Russia ...
      3. +10
        27 February 2014 07: 43
        wassat
        Quote: Horde
        no problem, so KHERSON is taken away too

        wassat Donbass too laughing
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        2. stroporez
          +6
          27 February 2014 07: 56
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Donbass too
          read out the entire "list" ..........
          1. 0
            27 February 2014 12: 59
            The eastern bank of the Dnieper + Odessa region, and there the PMR is possible ... By the way, after 1654, because of the anniversary of which, the bald cattle maize handed over the Crimea to the hohliks, the border between the Rzeczpospolita and Russia passed along the Dnieper just like that, except in Moscow then even Kiev left (now - no need!) And in the south there was nothing but the "Wild Field", because here the Crimean Tatars were "having fun"
          2. 0
            27 February 2014 15: 05
            Quote: stroporez
            read out the entire "list" ..........

            On the border of the 39th year!
        3. -1
          27 February 2014 08: 23
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          wassat
          Quote: Horde
          no problem, so KHERSON is taken away too

          wassat Donbass laughing too

          Pull the stop crane ... We sorted it out. Ukraine should be! Not shreds from a great country, but a country. It is necessary to help defeat fascism, you need to shelter the seedlings of those who betrayed power, you need to raise questions about Ukraine at the international level.
          But there is no need to use the situation. Ukrainians must decide. Dividing the country now, you are playing on the side of the maydauns. You will recognize that you have lost ... But everything is just beginning.
          1. +9
            27 February 2014 08: 42
            Quote: domokl
            . We sorted out. Ukraine should be!

            Hi Sanya! Yes, your Ukraine is not going anywhere, it will be, only part of it is part of Russia and that's it laughing
            Quote: domokl
            .Need to help defeat fascism,

            I agree to help in Crimea, but why not the rest on the streets?
            Quote: domokl
            , you need to shelter the seiyi of those whom the government has betrayed,

            Moving from a place of residence, especially not voluntarily, is nothing good. You need to make sure that there are no refugees.
            Quote: domokl
            international issues need to be raised in Ukraine.

            We constantly raise questions about SS in the Baltic states and what?
            Quote: domokl
            Ukrainians must decide

            They have already reached the point that the country cannot survive without loans. And they have reached the point that the Nazis came to power. Here it is self-integrity.
            1. +1
              27 February 2014 12: 41
              I agree to help in Crimea, but why not the rest on the streets?
              They don’t sit in Kharkov, Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson either, but the local media don’t show it, and even more so for you ..
          2. +7
            27 February 2014 09: 51
            There is no such great country, Ukraine, and never has been. The country was created artificially, molded from pieces according to production, and not according to mental grounds. And by the way, giving an example of Russia in this case is not useless, since Russia has always been an empire, no matter who says it now.
          3. +1
            27 February 2014 11: 06
            Quote: domokl
            Not shreds from a great country

            I can agree with you only if you understand the size of the country as the greatness of the country.
            Quote: domokl
            But no need to use the situation

            That is, the will of the same residents of the Crimea on the side?
            Quote: domokl
            Ukrainians must decide

            Right. But what can they decide themselves under the information pressure of the West and the force pressure of the new Maidan government?
            Quote: domokl
            But everything is just beginning

            Exactly. The only question is how to start. There are different opinions on this matter.
          4. avt
            +1
            27 February 2014 11: 58
            Quote: domokl
            .Ukraine should be! N

            Well, let it be like Georgia. The RSFSR in 1991, and in the case of Ukraine and its membership in the UN, Lenin, the monuments to which they demolished and Stalin created this country and the Russian Federation since 1991, has been cultivating such spells. So the GDP, as with Georgia, may decide whether or not such a country exists and within what borders, the best option for us is Ukraine within 3,14 sections. Let them feed the Geyvrops.
            Quote: domokl
            ! Not shreds from a great country,

            Which one? Ukraine? Just a minute, they themselves "smiddled" on the way to a bright "Europian" future, so why should we be afraid to dance on a rake ?!
            Quote: domokl
            But do not use the situation.

            laughing Well, yes, everyone is allowed except Russia, in general, I cut myself off - oh, I don’t give up. ”
            Quote: domokl
            .Ukrainians must decide.

            And GDP also gives them the opportunity to decide who is in the Russian World and who is gay.
            Quote: domokl
            .You recognize that you lost ...

            Hike, a fan of the cunning Kharkov Dopa and his partner gelding? Dopchinsky not only from the office - from the post of the governor OFFICIALLY merged into "presidential candidates", the Maydauns can simply appoint a new governor from those who have sat in his office! The Kharkovites of these talkers should be sent to Kiev - let them crucify on the Maydown like they are St. George ribbons to Bandera everywhere they hang and in the ass Bendery posters push. negative Gavnyuki party of the regions, prosrali ten administration building, well, a hundred undergrowths and even still have not turned off the electricity, water and Internet in the building !!!! am These are not leaders! These are provocateurs!
          5. +2
            27 February 2014 13: 06
            Question: what the hell should it be ??? These are Russian lands that the hohliks inherited for free from the Moscow tsars (the same Chernigov during the time of Grishka Otrepiev was a Russian, not a Polish (unlike the rest of the territory of Rochland) a city, Russian emperors (all Taurida and Novorossia: the coast of the Black and Azov seas), Bolsheviks a la Lenin (Lugansk, Donetsk, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk regions, given to hohliks to "increase the proletarian stratum in Rohland"), to whom the monuments are demolished by idiots, although they must pray that they have grown in territories in the east and south, Stalin, who annexed the western regions, and by virtue of his humanism, without shooting there Bandera cattle, the bald, moronic maize who transferred the Crimea ...
          6. 0
            27 February 2014 15: 09
            Quote: domokl
            . We sorted out. Ukraine should be!

            What no one answered _
            The country is the predecessor of the Ukrainian SSR?
          7. +1
            27 February 2014 17: 37
            Quote: domokl
            .Ukraine should be!

            I agree. As a republic within the Russian Federation.
          8. Sergey557
            0
            2 March 2014 10: 53
            Is it scary for a Rush or a Muscovite to live in Chechnya ??? aaaaa ...... scary !!!! because rush feels good only in Moscow and St. Petersburg !!! and even then, rush is cut out there - because rush is a corrupt skin! and what will you do in Crimea ??? Tatars remember how they were taken to Siberia !!!! Therefore, the only common thought on this forum is STOP CRANE, because when it is only on TV for you, and even that, in the edited version, it is easy, and when it touches directly - it is unknown and UNKNOWN why anyone keeps your family under with the sight of a machine gun - this is another conversation - and let you not be in our place !!
    2. +15
      27 February 2014 07: 37
      The only thing that is correct in the article is that Ukraine is a hostile state. Based on this postulate, you can make the right decisions.
      1. +4
        27 February 2014 09: 00
        On the need for a referendum on the annexation of Crimea to Russia.

      2. 0
        27 February 2014 22: 58
        Quote: Civil
        The only thing that is correct in the article is that Ukraine is a hostile state

        Friends, I already wrote that I am very kind and philanthropic ... But the current situation is very annoying ... I am not a politician or lawyer, rather a romantic, so let me fantasize a little ...
        Well, the first thing is not to recognize the legitimacy of the authorities of the new Ukraine, they came to power through a bloody coup, which means rebels and terrorists, moreover, with a fascist bias ... So oil and gas at European prices and full repayment of debts. In the case of unauthorized gas withdrawal from pipelines, require the EU to introduce control over the Ukrainian gas transportation system and consider it a fact of shipment to our border stations, or whatever they are called right ... Well, if the European Union wants to pay for the gas that Ukraine steals, then and a checkbook in their hands. For export items from Ukraine ...
        Well, pipes are not quite pipe, or round, or too radioactive, or .... Etc. that is, all products under penalties requiring a forfeit ... Nowhere else is Ukraine’s products needed, only in the post-Soviet space, well, here we can do it ...
        Crimea ... Well, Tuzla’s spit was already dumped, so repeat is not a question. Well, what to do with Perekop, the name shows ... Crimean Tatars ... Mostly engaged in agriculture, and only of 250 thousand. If goods appear on the markets at a price lower than cost, which is not so much money for Russia, the Tatars will soon have nothing to eat. In addition, agriculture is a high-risk zone, there are droughts, epidemics, etc. ... And if the Chechen diaspora knows that Russia would prefer to see them in the business that the Krymchaks are engaged in ... Well, in short, the usual special operation for any special service in the world. ...
        Well, something like this in my opinion ... Normal fantasy, nothing supernatural ... wassat
    3. +13
      27 February 2014 07: 42

      In Novoalekseevka and Kalanchak Crimea begins by land. There will be roadblocks on these roads and railways, there is no land connection with Russia.

      And for a long time to build a bridge across the Kerch Strait? And secondly, we have no connection with Kamchatka, but nothing, all that is needed is sailing.


      A humanitarian catastrophe will start: the shortage of food, water, medicines, there will be no electricity ... Tritely there will be nothing to flush in the toilet, there is nothing to prepare food for, there will be no fuel to take the garbage out of the city, etc.
      Horror catch up.
      Ah, damn the author (morpex is a Ukrainian from our site, who meets any criticism of Ukraine with minuses. It is understandable.
      1. -1
        27 February 2014 07: 51
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And for a long time to build a bridge across the Kerch Strait?

        I’ll explain another 4.4 km bridge over the strait for six months you can’t build.
        Kerch Strait (Ukrainian. Kerch Channel) - a strait belonging to the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov and connecting it with the Black Sea. The western shore of the strait is the Kerch Peninsula of Crimea, the eastern - Taman Peninsula. The width of the strait is from 4,5 to 15 km. The greatest depth is 18 meters. The most important port is the city of Kerch.
        If it were just that it would have been built long ago, do not forget that there appeared an island washed up by the current, this indicates that the bottom soil there is unstable.
        1. +10
          27 February 2014 08: 11
          Quote: Canep
          4.4 km bridge over the sea strait for six months can not be built.

          Even in a year it’s problematic. But the ferry supply will be organized in a day. We forget that the population of Crimea (according to the census) is only 2,45 million people. So there will really be no problems with the supply.
          1. +6
            27 February 2014 08: 21
            Quote: domokl
            Quote: Canep
            4.4 km bridge over the sea strait for six months can not be built.

            Even a year later is problematic ....

            What if...(purely theoretical) what


            1. +6
              27 February 2014 09: 38
              Quote: And Us Rat
              And if ... (purely theoretically)

              There is no need to speak theoretically. If the engineering troops take up the crossing of 18 km. they will do a maximum of 12 hours, taking into account that they will still regularly smoke aside.
              1. +4
                27 February 2014 10: 01
                Quote: Lk17619
                If the engineering troops take up the crossing of 18 km

                I was already tired of explaining to the people that a pontoon bridge of such a length could not even be assembled, not to mention using it. And for 18 km, forget about 4.5 and the kilometer-long bridge is not real.
                Characteristics of floating bridges

                60-t floating bridge

                the width of the carriageway is 6,5 m;
                the maximum length of the bridge is 227 m.

                20-t floating bridge

                the width of the carriageway is 3,29 m;
                the maximum length of the bridge is 382 m.
                1. +1
                  27 February 2014 11: 45
                  I agree with you about bridges, but:
                  PMP ((pontoon-bridge park) - a set of floating bridge, which is in service in the engineering and road (transport) troops of the armed forces) can be used as:
                  a floating bridge-bridge and transport ferries with a loading capacity of 20 to 170 tons;
                  floating berths (berths) and floating platforms (floating platforms) of various sizes and configurations from pontoon modules to accommodate various mechanisms and equipment, of any carrying capacity;
                  landing sites for helicopters and runways for aircraft GDP, almost unlimited length and width;
                  mini-ships of a mobile navy mosquito - combat, landing, transport, anti-hail, minesweepers, raid transporters, floating radars, etc .;
                  Also, you can use combined means of pontoons, ferries and bridges. Engineering thought never stood still. And given that our construction battalion (now the engineering troops) did not even give firearms (from a joke), but only shovels)))) then they can build a lot. When a retired lieutenant colonel of engineer troops worked in the north, he talked about such military projects outside the rim, and if even half the truth about how and how they were built, then 18 km of the strait is nothing for them.
            2. rolik
              +1
              27 February 2014 12: 33
              Quote: And Us Rat
              And if ... (purely theoretically)

              A hindrance to shipping, only for fairly calm water.
          2. +4
            27 February 2014 08: 56
            Quote: domokl
            Even a year later is problematic. But the ferry supply will be organized in a day.

            Alexander, hi! It is daily without organization, and through every 3 hours:
          3. rolik
            +2
            27 February 2014 12: 37
            Quote: domokl
            Even a year later is problematic


            About 6-8 months, only research will take. And then the turn for the project and so on. The minimum term of three years.
          4. 0
            27 February 2014 13: 17
            By the way !!! In the 1943 year, the Germans, to supply their troops in Taman for 2 months (!!!) built a cable car through the strait and very successfully supplied the Wehrmacht from Crimea !!! And there was not only water and food! By the way, and photos of this crossing can be found in the internet, I saw these in some book about the war.
        2. +2
          27 February 2014 08: 49
          Quote: Canep

          I’ll explain another 4.4 km bridge over the strait for six months you can’t build.

          Did I talk about half a year? Sergey, Sakhalin and I are torn from the mainland, but everything that needs to be ferries. Kamchatka, Magadan, Anadr, Okhotsk-everything goes by sea. There will be no problems with provision.
          Quote: Canep
          If it were just then it would have been built a long time ago,

          Yes, they would have built it a long time ago, but the Ukrainian side was categorically against it.
          1. +1
            27 February 2014 09: 36
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Yes, they would have built it a long time ago, but the Ukrainian side was categorically against it.
            Yes, it would be built under the Union, no one bothered. I didn’t say that the sea supply of Crimea was real, it’s a very real project. There are several ports in Crimea, Yalta, Yevpatoriya, Kerch, and Chernomorsk. And forget about the fast bridge.

            FOR OTHERS: PONTON BRIDGE LONG 4,5 KM - E T O F A N T A S T I K A With such a length, coastal (and not only) links will be torn apart by the current, and this bridge will block sea communication with the Sea of ​​Azov.
            1. +2
              27 February 2014 09: 57
              29 January 2014 15: 12

              Igor Shuvalov instructed to develop a project to create a bridge across the Kerch Strait
              Deputy Prime Minister Igor Shuvalov instructed to develop a project to create a bridge across the Kerch Strait. As stated in the message of the Russian government, the Ministry of Transport of Russia and the Russian Foreign Ministry were instructed to ensure coordination with the Ukrainian side of the terms of reference for engineering surveys and the development of a feasibility study for the implementation of the project for the construction of a transport passage through the Kerch Strait.

              The customer of engineering surveys and the development of a feasibility study for the construction of a transport passage through the Kerch Strait is supposed to appoint the state company Avtodor or its subsidiary.

              The Ministry of Transport of Russia, the Ministry of Economic Development of Russia, the Ministry of Finance of Russia, and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia were instructed to submit proposals on the timing of the construction of the transport passage through the Kerch Strait, depending on the options for implementing the project.

              The Ministry of Finance of Russia, the Ministry of Economic Development of Russia, and the Ministry of Transport of Russia have been instructed to work out the issue and submit proposals on creating a special tax regime for the construction and operation of a transport passage through the Kerch Strait.

              The Ukrainian government approved an agreement important for economic and trade relations between Russia and Ukraine. It concerns the construction of a bridge across the Kerch Strait. A ferry will connect the coast of Crimea and the Krasnodar Territory. The cost of the project, according to experts, is from one and a half to three billion dollars.

              See the original material at http://www.1tv.ru/news/economic/251394

              So they will want to build, they will build, especially from the Ukrainian side in this situation everything depends on the Crimea, and not Kiev.
              They thought about it in January.
            2. 0
              27 February 2014 13: 14
              It's time to calm down with this pontoon bridge. Someone said unknowingly, and everyone rushed "can" or "not". Clearly stupid. What, to close the shipping through the Kerch Strait?
              Firstly, no one will block anything, because they pay money for it, but everyone needs them. and the response from Russia may be more global. And secondly, to establish maritime communications from Tuapse, Novorossiysk, Yeysk, Rostov to Sevastopol, Kerch, etc. not the biggest problem compared to joining ..
          2. +1
            27 February 2014 09: 48
            yeah, that I don’t recall any land transport line connecting Magadan with the central regions ... I was looking badly for it. And how do we survive here? (we really have a bit left - 150 thousand hours for the entire region) While navigation is not with us all year round :)
        3. +1
          27 February 2014 09: 30
          The width of LaManche 34 km. and here it’s all 4 ...

          1. rolik
            +1
            27 February 2014 12: 43
            Quote: Boris55
            The width of La Manche is 34 km. and here it’s only 4.

            Such a bridge over the sea exists in reality. This is a cable-stayed bridge. It was built for six years, from 2003-2009. The cost of 1.4 billion dollars. Its length is 36 km. guess where and by whom it was built)))))
        4. 0
          27 February 2014 12: 47
          There are rocks under nrut .. The problem is different - ice drifts from the Sea of ​​Azov, nowadays it is solved now, not 43 years, but the Germans already built a bridge during the occupation, but it was demolished by ice drift .... Since then, the technology has changed a lot ..
        5. 0
          27 February 2014 13: 12
          Technically, build a bridge like "two fingers on the table"! The Russky Island from Vladik will be farther, and there are more depths there, and the bridge was not built due to the difference in the status of the banks: on the one hand, the state (even EMPIRE) is Russia, on the other (for now!) The territory called "Rohlandia" and resisted all its 20 years of existence. By the way, when Putin gave money to Yanyk and offered cooperation, a document was signed on the construction of a bridge across the Kerch Strait.
      2. +8
        27 February 2014 08: 07
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        And for a long time to build a bridge across the Kerch Strait?

        Hi Sash ... Well, the geography guy doesn’t know what it is. Well, I want to somehow explain to the Crimeans that they depend on Ukraine.
        I liked something else. For some reason, Crimea is regarded as the only region opposed by maydauns. Only things are much more tragic for the current types of authorities. South-East has stopped paying taxes, which means state employees will no longer receive salaries, pensioners, etc.
        In my opinion, now the revolution will begin to devour itself. You can’t especially cheat with robberies. So, they will begin to look for the guilty among their own people. fellow
        1. +3
          27 February 2014 08: 25
          And who does Ukraine depend on? However, since there will be no problems with the supply, there is nothing to talk about. The collapse of the central government automatically makes any discussion about the safety of relations with the mainland meaningless.
          1. +1
            27 February 2014 09: 17
            Quote: EvilLion
            And who does Ukraine depend on?

            do not distort ... I said not Ukraine, but Crimea. Quote honestly.
            But if you are hooked on this problem, then the counter-question-And who doesn’t depend on? What is the country like now? Is there money? Is there an economy? Is there an ideology? Is there a unity of the people? What is that?
            The country is practically on its knees. And this is only the beginning. For all their love for Ukraine, Western countries have already asked the Russian Federation to deliver gas to their countries, bypassing the Ukrainian GTS ...
            In less than a month, the type of government will kneel before the IMF and surrender the country with giblets.
        2. +1
          27 February 2014 08: 52
          Quote: domokl
          .. Then they will begin to look for the guilty among their

          Hi again! Sasha! Distract internal problems, you can warrior. Now advisers from the EU and the United States there are ramshackle, as one of the options. They can offer this. Yes, and an extra reason for Russia to pour mud.
          1. 0
            27 February 2014 09: 23
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Distract internal problems, you can warrior.

            Well, if we now have such a tradition, then hello again to you laughing
            And according to the comment ... Very, sorry, not a far-sighted look. A military, external enemy can distract a country when it is united. And in the Ukrainian case it will not work.
            I think that’s why they are pushing Russia to use force in order to somehow anger the Ukrainians. I just imagined myself in their place. I would be indignant at anyone. My house means I will decide how to live in it ...
        3. +2
          27 February 2014 09: 35
          ".So they will start looking for the guilty among their fellows."
          And immediately appoint Russia to blame! With all that flow from this internationally. And pressure from the EU up to the resolution of the UN General Assembly !!!
        4. GDP
          +2
          27 February 2014 09: 36
          It’s right not to give money to the West! All funds and resources should remain in the Southeast and Russia should help only them!
          Let Bendera learn to live east with a bare back and on an empty stomach!
        5. 0
          27 February 2014 10: 12
          Quote: domokl
          .South-tail has stopped paying taxes, which means state employees will no longer receive salaries, pensioners, pensions, etc.
          In my opinion, now the revolution will begin to devour itself. You can’t especially cheat with robberies. So, they will begin to look for the guilty among their own people.

          I hope this helps the people of these territories to decide who they are along the way.
        6. rolik
          0
          27 February 2014 12: 41
          Quote: domokl
          In my opinion, now the revolution will begin to devour itself

          I wonder which of the three will finish as Marat, lying in the bath in a solution of sulfur ????))))))
      3. +8
        27 February 2014 08: 44
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        A humanitarian catastrophe will start: the shortage of food, water, medicines, there will be no electricity ... Tritely there will be nothing to flush in the toilet, there is nothing to prepare food for, there will be no fuel to take the garbage out of the city, etc.
        Horror catch up.
        Ah, damn the author (morpex is a Ukrainian from our site, who meets any criticism of Ukraine with minuses.

        Article minus! I would like to remind the author that during the Second World War the inhabitants of Crimea also had a "shortage of food, water, medicine, electricity ..." And yet they survived, and even fought. And since they are acting so resolutely now, will they not tolerate a little while the normal supply is organized? The main thing is to contain the pressure of the Tatars and possible "visiting sectors" ... and the rest will follow! Yes, and help in such a matter from the same Odessa and other cities will be.
      4. +2
        27 February 2014 10: 07
        The independence of Crimea is rather a matter of time, I will answer why: Ukraine cannot avoid a crisis, both political and 100% economic, so it will be difficult for the central government to keep the regions in check, everything has its time. Crimea will certainly return to Russia, this is a strategic peninsula and it’s not even a matter of Russian-speaking population. We already have "protectorates" - South. Ossetia and Abkhazia are next in line for Transnistria and Crimea.
      5. +1
        27 February 2014 11: 40
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        In Novoalekseevka and Kalanchak Crimea begins by land. There will be roadblocks on these roads and railways, there is no land connection with Russia.

        But ... as they say: believe it or not ....
        "It was reported that the premises of the Verkhovna Rada of Crimea and the Council of Ministers of Crimea were occupied by armed men in uniforms without identification marks. The requirements have not yet been made public," said Chubarov (head of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatars), without specifying what the invaders were armed with ... "Unknown people hoisted the flag Russia does not even make contact, "Radio Liberty reports in Ukraine. There is no confirmation from law enforcement agencies.

        seehttp: //top.rbc.ru/politics/27/02/2014/907492.shtml
        1. 0
          27 February 2014 12: 52
          I confirm .. Today I saw it myself ..
      6. 0
        27 February 2014 18: 16
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Ah, damn the author (morpex is a Ukrainian from our site, who meets any criticism of Ukraine with minuses. It is understandable.

        You’ll be surprised but I don’t put any minuses to anyone. Even if I don’t agree. Only to those who clearly hate Ukraine and Ukrainians and those who lie like a gelding.
        Well, the economy is okay. But what will you do with the Crimean Tatars who will simply announce jihad to you? You have a powder keg in the Caucasus. Do you want one more? This is real. In the light of today's events, it remains to take a half-step. Indeed, in Simferopol, the guys who seized the buildings of the Supreme Council can clearly see the special forces handwriting. But you will not deny it? Just give a competent answer. Without your sarcasm and hatred.
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    5. +9
      27 February 2014 07: 45
      Quote: DS14
      An article from the Ukrainian media?

      And there they are, Ukrainian? They were bought up twenty years ago ...
    6. +6
      27 February 2014 07: 49
      Author, keep it up! Apparently, from the Ukrainian sites trolls-provocateurs climbed onto our sites, who bend all their Russophobic line, although Ukraine is already on the verge of a financial catastrophe.

      PS: on one of the Ukrainian forums now
      Yai Arsenyuk - 27.02.2014/05/46, XNUMX:XNUMX
      Damn and the Chinese will not give, you need to put Lenin’s grandfathers in their place!
      1. GDP
        +2
        27 February 2014 09: 40
        I remember Bivas and Butthead, sitting in a shabby apartment, drinking stolen beer and dreaming - "We will definitely be given it now!"
        Flag of the UPA on the background hang, a swastika and a bust of Bandera. - Well, exactly the current situation in Ukraine ...
    7. +6
      27 February 2014 08: 06
      Quote: DS14
      An article from the Ukrainian media?

      The information war is gaining momentum, on some articles a bright future, on others - the apocalypse. And the media generally lose their function of conveying information to people. The most impartial and reliable source of information for today in Ukraine is probably the newspaper of some kind of Micronesia, they just do not care who for whom. No.
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    9. -13
      27 February 2014 08: 14
      the authorities are looking for an excuse for betrayal! And what will Russia do if eastern Ukraine becomes part of it ??? At home, the industry collapsed, inflation is growing, the economy is in the red! The accomplices will simply take over the remnants of industry, and then ????
      1. 0
        27 February 2014 13: 57
        Turchinov ordered "to punish the criminals who seized parliament" in Crimea
        “I gave the order to the security forces to protect citizens, punish criminals and unlock the building”
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    10. ed65b
      +2
      27 February 2014 09: 07
      Right the author got a fat minus. One small remark, all that he wrote about the Crimea will happen to Ukraine exactly at the moment when they are not breathing evenly towards Simferopol. And with gas and light and all other charms.
      1. 0
        27 February 2014 14: 00
        The silence of the lambs: radicals of the Mejlis trampled on death supporter of the referendum


        . .Marat Musin on Thu, 27/02/2014 - 09:28 News: topic of War
        who Mustafa Dzhemilev
        Sergey Aksenov
        what is anna-news
        EU
        NATO
        like a riot
        action films
        geopolitics
        special operations
        where is Simferopol


        If it were a Tatar, now there would be a loud howl around the world about the victims of the separatists. But since the unfortunate woman was from the ranks of anti-fascists, the world media are modestly silent about all this. Late in the evening, details of the special operation of the eurofascists outside the Crimean parliament became known. Aksenov paid the leaders of his groups to take people out of the courtyard at the right time. Further, according to the provocation plan, the Mejlis radicals, headed by Mustafa Dzhemilev, were supposed to break into the building of the Supreme Council of Crimea for a while. Then the savior Captain America Aksenov comes in and after a pause two accomplices - the “winner” go out to the people with the words that friendship-sausages-democracy won and establish a coalition government loyal to Kiev. The provocation was thwarted by a dozen Russian guys who managed to take the places left in the courtyard left by the Axenovites. Nerve gas was used for the children, six of them were pulled out alive only by a miracle. The fact that the Russians, Ukrainians and peaceful Tatars then occupied the courtyard and began to erect barricades caused a real rage. The SBU opened criminal proceedings against resistance leaders in Simferopol, and the famous character in a rage “ordered” them directly to the Crimean organized crime group with the letter C. At night, “drunk” provocateurs and criminals were sent to the barricades. The chairman of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatars Refat Chubarov has just made a provocative appeal to everyone to go to the parliament and the Council of Ministers of Crimea that they have seized. We look forward to further developments.
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    11. +4
      27 February 2014 09: 46
      The marine wrote the same ardent fan of the Maidan ... school notes saturated with anger that not everyone in the country is such freaks as in Lviv.
      1. 0
        27 February 2014 13: 00
        In general, I liked this site with well-weighted comments from members of the forum, which can not be said about so many sites ... But some inadequate ones also slip through ... It's a pity if they spoil it too ..
        1. -1
          27 February 2014 18: 36
          Quote: aleks 62
          In general, I liked this site with well-weighted comments from members of the forum, which can not be said about so many sites ... But some inadequate ones also slip through ... It's a pity if they spoil it too ..

          That’s why there is a website that would express my point of view. I don’t hide my opinion and put it up for discussion. I don’t like the flag in your hands, put a minus. And you don’t judge my adequacy.
      2. -1
        27 February 2014 18: 33
        Quote: Xroft
        The marine wrote the same ardent fan of the Maidan ... school notes saturated with anger that not everyone in the country is such freaks as in Lviv.

        I wrote this not for people like you, but for people who are smart and literate, of whom the majority on this site. And I wrote not for that. in order to prove something, but in order to find out for yourself what normal Russians think about this. And insult go to Bandera to another forum. By the way, from the East
        1. 0
          27 February 2014 18: 49
          Quote: morpex
          I wrote this not for people like you

          And thank you .
          So all the same, it will not be difficult for you to confirm or deny _ So was the dismantling of the monument Soviet soldiers or not ?
          And then somehow unresolved remained. Despite my frostbite, I really need to know if it was or not.
          1. 0
            27 February 2014 19: 17
            Quote: Cynic
            So was the dismantling of the monument to Soviet soldiers or not?

            I honestly don’t know. I myself asked where and when. Want to know my opinion? If this happens at home, I tear off my hands.
            There was no such information in our media. Yes, Lenin. They’re vandalizing. In my opinion, it’s also vandalism. We defended at home. There was a proposal at the district session. I do not exclude that this could happen in Bandera. Kutuzov was dismantled in Lviv. And this is true.
            1. 0
              27 February 2014 19: 42
              Yes, as if called
              Saturday, February 22, in Stryi (a regional center in the Lviv region Ukraine) a monument to a Soviet soldier was demolished. This was reported by the local site Stryi.com.ua.
              The sculpture depicting a soldier with a child in her arms was dismantled using a truck crane. Then, according to the source, she was taken to the territory of the local combine of communal enterprises.

              Although
              Quote: morpex
              I don’t exclude that this can happen in Bandera.

              It is surprising to me another, putting himself above the law, the Maidan is very surprised when others start, in relation to him, not to fulfill the letter of the law.
              After all, this is the infantilism of pure water.
              1. 0
                27 February 2014 20: 42
                Quote: Cynic
                On Saturday, February 22, a monument to a Soviet soldier was demolished in Stryi (a regional center in the Lviv region of Ukraine). This was reported by the local site Stryi.com.ua.
                The sculpture depicting a soldier with a child in her arms was dismantled using a truck crane. Then, according to the source, she was taken to the territory of the local utility plant

                Inhumans ....
      3. 0
        27 February 2014 18: 56
        Quote: Xroft
        This same Marine wrote an ardent fan of Maidan ...

        The most bitter that any Maidan or anti-Maidan is the quintessence of democracy. In a sense, the medicine, because of its dose, has become poison.
        Nobody wants to know what existed and there is Maidan.
        Maidan is a weapon and nothing more.
    12. AVV
      +2
      27 February 2014 10: 19
      Quote: DS14
      An article from the Ukrainian media?

      And who told this author that only Crimea is interested in joining, with such a leadership of the country, which now, all southeastern regions of Ukraine are ready to join the Russian Federation, they don’t need gay-devastation in the future !!! Loss of the whole industry., the shutdown of the main factories with their subsequent destruction by the West, the loss of work by citizens, an increase in utility bills at European rates, an increase in the retirement age !!! But do people need this ???
    13. +2
      27 February 2014 10: 42
      Yes, it seems an article from maydanutyh propagandists. I agree that at first it will be difficult, but without this there can be no big deal.
      1. The project has long been ready, and when the construction of the bridge from the Krasnodar Territory to the Crimea had already begun. Ukrainians blocked the construction site. I think it’s easy to resume. In parallel, to carry out the main gas pipeline, since there is one on the Russian side. It is also not difficult to extend several branches of power lines to the Crimea. In half a year - a year this will be provided to the population of Crimea. Of course, it’s a big expense, but it's worth it.
      2. The Crimean Canal is mainly intended for the reclamation of arid agricultural lands. lands of the north of Crimea. Large cities almost do not use it. Somehow they used to live without a canal and it’s hard, but you can continue to live.
      3. Concerning products and goods. I think a huge number of businessmen in a short time will explore this market with pleasure, not only Russian, but also Ukrainian, etc. Yes, it will be more expensive, but it is temporary.
      4. Regarding the isolation of Crimea by Ukraine. Firstly, this will be a direct violation of international laws and regulations, and secondly, a blockade can also be imposed on Ukraine from Russia. Many will think whether to block or not. There are many enclaves in the world, and they are not particularly affected. Remember Palestine in Israel.
      PS. The devil is not so terrible as he is painted. Any way begins with the first step.
      PPS If Ukrainians had a reasonable, balanced policy with Russia and with Russians in Ukraine, then perhaps there would have been no questions now, they would have lived together for the good of the whole people and Ukraine and Russia. IMHO.
    14. 0
      27 February 2014 12: 27
      Nonsense ... What the "author -> author -> author" described is called an economic blockade .. But this is a double-edged sword ... How interesting the "Great Vuykaina" will howl if gas supplies are cut off, they will leave only for the EU as it was in the winter of 2009. In general, "author -> author -> author" did not try to compare it with the Kaliningrad region. There is also gas and water, and they do not swell with hunger ... In general, I put a fat minus ...
    15. Sergey557
      0
      2 March 2014 11: 02
      introducing the army into Ukraine rush continues the war already at home ... and from afar, everything is fine - whoever makes noise there, and when it drags on for months - it will be interesting - rush in Crimea will be cut out and sent home in zinc ... you want to??? who are you fighting with, who are you holding at the gunpoint - Crimeans ??? Oh well
      1. 0
        2 March 2014 11: 05
        Quote: Sergey557
        Do you want that???

        Change your doctor or do not miss sessions.
  2. +14
    27 February 2014 07: 21
    did you look at the map? if necessary, engineering troops will prepare a crossing over the Kerch Strait in a week ... so let's finish
    1. DS14
      +15
      27 February 2014 07: 31
      In 7 minutes))

      1. +2
        27 February 2014 07: 43
        One link was not enough for them, and of course well done, there was nothing to be afraid of and respect for the Soviet Army. One thing is not clear why it was impossible to provide soldiers with rubberized overalls, otherwise they do everything in boots waist-high in water.
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      1. +3
        27 February 2014 07: 45
        Quote: DS14
        In 7 minutes))
        The norm is 50 minutes in the afternoon, 2 hours at night.
        I do not want to offend but think for yourself the width of the Kerch Strait 4,4 km
        (http://maps.yandex.ru/?ll=36.674321%2C45.350171&spn=0.271225%2C0.098648&z=13&l=


        map&rl=36.67157473%2C45.34260595~-0.04703522%2C0.02154396)
        And the PMP has pontoons for the length of the bridge 227 meters, you will need 20 pontoon-bridge parks, I don’t know there are so many in the Russian army. Bullshit, do not write. The bridge workers couldn’t put a pontoon bridge across the Pyanj River, and you expect a bridge across the Strait from them.
        1. DS14
          +1
          27 February 2014 08: 06
          The norm is 50 minutes in the afternoon, 2 hours at night.

          I don’t know about the standard, but the video crossing was done in 7 minutes)) It’s clear that 4 km is a problem))

          Projects of a bridge and a tunnel through the strait are already being prepared - the bridge will cost approx. 1,5 billion USD, the tunnel is three times more expensive, they will choose which is better.

          http://gazeta.sebastopol.ua/2013/12/18/postrojat-most-ili-tunnel-cherez-kerchens
          kij-proliv /
        2. Fin
          +2
          27 February 2014 09: 51
          Quote: Canep
          And the PMP has pontoons for the length of the bridge 227 meters, you will need 20 pontoon-bridge parks, I don’t know there are so many in the Russian army. Bullshit, do not write. The bridge workers couldn’t put a pontoon bridge across the Pyanj River, and you expect a bridge across the Strait from them.

          Guys What kind of pontoon bridges are you talking about ??? Do you want to block shipping? Do you close the ports on the Sea of ​​Azov? Stop it!
          1. +1
            27 February 2014 10: 05
            Quote: Fin
            Stop it!

            I’m tired of admonishing amateurs.
          2. predator.3
            0
            27 February 2014 14: 36
            Quote: Fin
            Guys What kind of pontoon bridges are you talking about ??? Do you want to block shipping? Do you close the ports on the Sea of ​​Azov? Stop it!


            Guys, what are we discussing, some pantones, roads! And how was Sevastopol provided in 41-42? during the heroic defense, maybe the Germans opened a "humanitarian corridor" through Perekop, or through the Kerch Strait? Yes, everything will be the way, if only the Russian and Andreevsky flag was not lowered! good
    3. 0
      27 February 2014 07: 39
      Quote: indiggo
      if necessary, engineering troops will prepare a crossing over the Kerch Strait in a week ...
      The width of the strait is more than 4 km. Count how many pontoon parks are needed to block this strait if one park covers 227 meters. Engineer troops do not have the means to guide the crossing in the Kerch Strait.
      1. +4
        27 February 2014 07: 58
        Quote: Canep
        Engineer troops do not have the means to guide the crossing in the Kerch Strait.

        Then we’ll build a bridge, and so far everything will be delivered to the barge. We need to be delivered. We are not Ukraine, we have money wink
      2. +2
        27 February 2014 08: 29
        Quote: Canep
        The width of the strait is more than 4 km. Count how many pontoon parks are needed to block this strait if one park covers 227 meters. Engineer troops do not have the means to guide the crossing in the Kerch Strait.

        Add the excitement of the sea, for which the pontoon crossing is simply not designed, the current in the strait and how it will affect the 4km long floating thread.
        1. 0
          27 February 2014 09: 32
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Add the excitement of the sea

          I would not forget the combat swimmers ... There is no sense in having such a bridge. A couple will carry no less cargo per unit of time. And it is easier to protect it.
        2. 0
          27 February 2014 09: 56
          Quote: Vladimirets
          Add the excitement of the sea, for which the pontoon crossing is simply not designed, the current in the strait and how it will affect the 4km long floating thread.
          Excitement will not influence in any way, because the current will not even allow it to be collected. And if you hire old Hottabych, and he will reveal a miracle, and the assembled bridge will appear, then in the first minute this bridge will be torn along the coastal links and sail away to the coast of Turkey.
  3. +8
    27 February 2014 07: 26
    In marines like sane took, or an exception?
    1. +7
      27 February 2014 07: 44
      Quote: dark_65
      In marines like sane took, or an exception?

      Was a bread slicer laughing
      1. +3
        27 February 2014 08: 25
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Was a bread slicer

        Hardly not ... No. Honorary bread maker wink . Sasha hi !
        1. +2
          27 February 2014 08: 55
          Quote: Tersky
          Honorary bread maker

          Hello Victor! We believed that the most strivings are a bread-cutter and a galley, they sucked badly, because the demolition was constantly shaken by bread-cutters and galleys for a snack request
          1. +1
            27 February 2014 09: 36
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            We thoughtthe most stirrups are a bread cutter and a galley, fed sucks, because the demobilization was constantly shaking grain cutters and galleys for a snack

            So I smiled at the end of the sentence for which I inserted, laughing Even during my service they did not enjoy authority ..
      2. +1
        27 February 2014 09: 35
        Huh ... it’s like it’s not the first day on the site, but they didn’t bother to look at the flag ... Right now I’ll sit in the teacher’s pose ... This is the Ukrainian marine lol They live there next to the submariners ... bully
        I don’t greet Romanov anymore today, but Victor is categorical hi
        1. 0
          27 February 2014 18: 46
          Quote: domokl
          ..This is the Ukrainian marine

          Nope .. Soviet. And anyway. Hare to troll. Everyone is trying to throw a piece of shit. Do you enjoy all this? wassat
      3. 0
        27 February 2014 18: 41
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: dark_65
        In marines like sane took, or an exception?

        Was a bread slicer laughing

        Aha wassat Black bread was cut in Angola. And something else. As long as you swelled here in the Union
        1. 0
          27 February 2014 20: 26
          don’t feel sorry. we also didn’t have a resort ... we looked.
  4. Alexandr 2
    +3
    27 February 2014 07: 27
    It would be the desire of the people. And with the crossing you can solve everything.
  5. +2
    27 February 2014 07: 27
    you'd better analyze your situation in Israel; and don’t forget about your states how many children were shot at schools; leave behind Ukraine and bring down your Israel
  6. +13
    27 February 2014 07: 30
    Author VALERY (morpex) -Let's draw the opposite situation-RUSSIA does not intervene.
    To suppress the protest of the population, an airborne assault arrives from GALICIA, led by the RIGHT SECTOR and SASHA WHITE with a list of unreliable ones.

    In the event of resistance, people will inevitably die, what next ????
    1. +4
      27 February 2014 08: 11
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      in case of resistance people will inevitably die, what next ????

      CHAOS and HELL
    2. 0
      27 February 2014 18: 51
      Quote: The same Lech
      Author VALERY (morpex) -Let's draw the opposite situation-RUSSIA does not intervene.
      To suppress the protest of the population, an airborne assault arrives from GALICIA, led by the RIGHT SECTOR and SASHA WHITE with a list of unreliable ones.

      In the event of resistance, people will inevitably die, what next ????

      I will be the first to come and help the Crimeans.
      Do you know how many "Right Sector" organizations have? For a minute - 300 active members. So there is nothing to consider here. But the Tatars are serious and for a long time. This is a problem of problems ..
  7. +3
    27 February 2014 07: 30
    I do not agree with the author! Author for the article minus! Russians do not abandon their! If the GDP does not send troops in the event of the Russian genocide, and without any commands, so many men will go to Crimea to fight, that all the fascists will get f * c * f * c *!
  8. +4
    27 February 2014 07: 31
    What is this nonsense? lol
  9. +3
    27 February 2014 07: 32
    Horror story of Ukrainian nationalists. Such things are not instantly done. We also have leverage over Ukraine. And the Kerch Strait is not so wide.
    1. +4
      27 February 2014 07: 42
      Ah, they don’t already know what to do, then in Lviv they speak Russian on Wednesdays, then lose armageddon promise Crimea! laughing
    2. +1
      27 February 2014 08: 52
      Quote: Interested
      Yes, and the Kerch Strait is not so wide

      "Ferry, ferry, left bank, right bank ..." Let not a bridge, not a panton, but can you make a FERRY supply?
  10. +11
    27 February 2014 07: 32
    somehow it seems to me that soon all Ukrainian pensioners will not receive any pension for a long time.
  11. +2
    27 February 2014 07: 32
    It would be a desire and action, everything will be. And so one reasoning.
  12. +6
    27 February 2014 07: 33
    The active performance of the Crimean Tatars in recent days "opened the buyout" of the last of the real forces in Ukraine. Now you can answer Russia too. Unfortunately, the performance of the Crimean Tatars for the unity of Ukraine greatly weakened the pro-Russian positions. Now there is no possibility of a legal division of Ukraine through a referendum. In my opinion, Putin has three scenarios:
    1) accept such Ukraine as it is, and push your positions through the economy. The most likely option, taking into account information about Russia's debt to China. Cons - inside the country (RF), patriotic citizens will not understand this path, which means that confidence in Putin will decrease.
    2) Enter the troops, on a full scale, under any pretext. Cons - Russia in the world will look like an aggressor, with all the ensuing consequences. The option is unlikely, but it also seems to be getting ready for it.
    3) Wait for a lot of blood in the Crimea or in the east of Ukraine, and only then begin a peacekeeping operation, as in South Ossetia. Of the minuses - the resentment of Russia among the Ukrainian people, well, of course, the casualties.
    1. +1
      27 February 2014 08: 31
      In short, wherever you throw, a wedge is everywhere. request
    2. Orakyl
      0
      27 February 2014 11: 36
      1. such as it is, in a year it will become a springboard for NATO troops, and Bandera, feeling their impunity, will begin to kill even more, the old people remember!
      2. the whole world sings to the tune of the United States, tired of looking around at everyone, you need to think with your own head, otherwise it’s like the whole "civilized world, we will introduce the world. Or are there any willing?"
      3. There are more than enough victims, and so you need to enter so that there are no more. For 20 years, the people, and especially the youth, have been thoroughly brainwashed, there isn’t enough time for everyone to explain, so only action! clear! no compromise! We explain to the Russians, we destroy the mercenaries, otherwise Syria.
    3. TeplyakovNS
      +1
      27 February 2014 11: 51
      Always being good doesn't work out! Because you still need to be afraid of you. I am sure if the Golden Eagle immediately dispersed the crowd according to the law, this would not have happened.
    4. 0
      27 February 2014 18: 58
      Isn’t it better to wait for the elections in three months, to finance a candidate from the South-East, to win them and quietly, peacefully, to enter the CU? Today, it seems that the regions of Tigipka have moved. Not quite by the way, a bad figure. Unscrew! And the destabilization of the Crimea will not bring anyone good.
      1. +1
        27 February 2014 19: 10
        Quote: morpex
        Isn't it better ...

        Already been.
        No one wants peacefully.
        How is it there _
        We walked to the roar of the cannonade
        We looked in the face of death
        Detachments advanced
        Spartacists, brave fighters.

        Among us was a young drummer.
        In attacks he walked in front
        With a fun drum friend
        With Bolshevik fire in the chest.

        One night at rest
        He sang a funny song,
        But, fought by an enemy bullet,
        I did not have time to sing to the end.

        With a smile young drummer
        Dropped to the ground,
        And our young drummer fell silent
        His drum was silent.

        The war years have flown by
        Our glorious campaign is over.
        Our young drummer died
        But the song about him will not die.

        Nothing like?
  13. +10
    27 February 2014 07: 34
    If you follow the logic of the author, then Russia must constantly and in everything yield to stay good. Let there be difficulties, and not small ones, but our ancestors fought for their country, experiencing no less and perhaps more difficulties, and thanks to which there is Russia. Gorbachev also wanted to be good in the eyes of the West and what came of it, we know. We must not retreat, afraid of difficulties.
  14. +7
    27 February 2014 07: 35
    Perhaps I agree that if you connect only the Crimea, it will be exactly as described in the article.
    However, we must not forget:
    1.Ukraine as a whole sits on the gas needle of Russia. Sorry if they turn off the lights and water, which will prevent us from doing the same.
    2. If the secession of Crimea all the same happens, then most likely this will be a signal for the entire southeast. Therefore, purely my opinion, we will have entrances through the mainland to the territory of the ARC.
    3. At the moment, it seems to me that we are losing both the Crimea and Ukraine as a whole. Although time will tell !!!
  15. predator.3
    +5
    27 February 2014 07: 35
    A humanitarian catastrophe will start: the shortage of food, water, medicines, there will be no electricity ... Tritely there will be nothing to flush in the toilet, there is nothing to prepare food for, there will be no fuel to take the garbage out of the city, etc.

    How terrible, VALERY! crying on Independence already weed in the form of humanitarian aid distributed? lol
    And Crimea will not go under water, as in "2012"?
    wassat
  16. Shooter308ful
    0
    27 February 2014 07: 35
    Then, along with Crimea, it is necessary to take all the eastern provinces of Ukraine so that Crimea is not isolated by land. Then it will be possible to deliver the necessary goods by rail.
  17. +8
    27 February 2014 07: 36
    Yesterday I wrote the same thing in a comment, zinnushed, oh well. Before you wave your saber, you need to think hard and calculate all the consequences.
    1. +2
      27 February 2014 07: 47
      Quote: sergey32
      Yesterday I wrote the same thing in a comment, zinnushed, oh well. Before you wave your saber, you need to think hard and calculate all the consequences.


      People need to be aware of what they have heard, apparently, at least a day.
    2. stroporez
      0
      27 February 2014 08: 08
      you must always think .......
    3. 0
      27 February 2014 08: 55
      Quote: sergey32
      Before you wave your saber, you need to think hard and calculate all the consequences.

      We need not only to calculate the consequences, we must immediately think about overcoming the unpleasant consequences, and then take up the matter. Only this should be done without stretching in time.
  18. sergeant
    +6
    27 February 2014 07: 37
    there is a positive experience in Chechnya. Russia somehow restored the devastation there. it is possible to put an ultimatum at the expense of the GTS and electricity; if Ukraine shuts off gas and turns off the light to Crimea, Russia will shut off gas to Ukraine. Now the picture is becoming more joyful. And the author doesn’t have to let all the dogs down, the author expressed a negative scenario, and this also needs to be prepared
  19. +6
    27 February 2014 07: 37
    the script became a reality, and the Crimea acquired the status of a subject of the Russian Federation

    It would be more correct to say that it restored the status of a subject of the Russian Federation. The author is a typical Maydan with appropriate mental development (or rather, underdevelopment). Only this can explain the statement about the inability of Russia to provide Crimea with everything necessary. I will ask only one question. But how interesting is Russia managing to provide Sakhalin, Kamchatka, and the Northern Territories? Author, cuckoo! Have you heard about such a subject as economic geography? Although, I'm sorry, the question is not addressed.
  20. -2
    27 February 2014 07: 39
    Apparently, the first scenario was chosen. A bunch of dissatisfied patriots, but it’s better than a meat grinder with NATO forces and economic sanctions from Europe. The choice is still difficult.
  21. +6
    27 February 2014 07: 42
    After comparing prices in Crimea and the nearest Novorossiysk with a difference of 200-300%, I did not even read the article. Silly article
  22. +2
    27 February 2014 07: 42
    Ivangorod is tied in housing and communal services to Estonian Narva. And nothing, chew. And the relationship with Estonia is not God, especially in the early 90s. And an article from the category "No independence! Everything will be lost!" Author, where are you from? Remind Transnistria and Karabakh?
  23. +8
    27 February 2014 07: 43
    Here before analyzing you need to understand one thing. RUSSIA freed Crimea from the Ottomans! Russian soldiers died during the liberation of Crimea! Russian people built cities on the island! Russian military defended the Crimea from the Nazis! And finally, there live Russian people who love Russia, believe in it and wait for help.
    1. +2
      27 February 2014 09: 49
      Quote: nemec55
      Here before analyzing you need to understand one thing. RUSSIA freed Crimea from the Ottomans
      I just found out
  24. +9
    27 February 2014 07: 44
    What a terrible picture. The author, and when will the food and other nishtyaks in the Kaliningrad region end? It is also separated by unfriendly countries for the third decade.
  25. +5
    27 February 2014 07: 45
    Custom article ... am
    1. 0
      27 February 2014 19: 01
      Quote: haarte
      Custom article ... am

      laughing And where can I get denyuzhku? Give the address of the customer.
      1. +1
        27 February 2014 19: 05
        Quote: morpex
        Give the address of the customer.
        1. 0
          27 February 2014 20: 07
          Quote: Cynic
          Quote: morpex
          Give the address of the customer.

          One rubbish wrote about zakazuhi. You do not seem to be a troll. And you have your own look at what is happening. Question. Why are you likened to inadequacy and are trying to hook me? Cheap populism? Superfluous plus? So I will put. I will make you pleasant laughing
          1. 0
            27 February 2014 23: 11
            Quote: morpex
            One rubbish wrote about zakazuhi.

            And you lifted the glove, responded.
            Quote: morpex
            Cheap populism?

            And then. Our White House _ Government House of the Russian Federation wink
  26. +3
    27 February 2014 07: 45
    The option is quite possible, you can add an instant performance of the Crimean Tatars (the eternal and most consistent enemies of Russians and Ukrainians, let them not have illusions), but this is with a simple approach, without the participation of Russia, but with a competent, consistent approach and with the most severe suppression of any Natsik speeches, not paying attention to Western pluralists, the option is completely solvable, for example, the Kaliningrad region, but here there will be problems and beginnings will be overcome by the one who walks, not the one who argues at its beginning.
  27. +4
    27 February 2014 07: 46
    According to preliminary estimates, the length of the bridge in the Kerch Strait will be about 5 km. In principle, this bridge can be roughly compared with the construction of another bridge over the Lena River, whose length will be 3,1 km. Although, its cost is approximately 47 rubles. A cable-stayed bridge 000 km long, connecting the mainland with Russky Island, cost 000 rubles. The construction of the Kerch bridge will be $ 000. That is, the price is comparable to similar bridges.

    For Russia, this project is more than real. But for Russia, economic cooperation will be important not only with the Crimea but also with other regions of Ukraine adjacent to the sea. That is, the construction of this bridge will have far-reaching plans for sure.
  28. +5
    27 February 2014 07: 47
    Water and electricity will end in 1-24 hours after joining the Russian Federation.
    Immediately after the first hour in the remaining Ukraine, electricity, gas, gasoline and pensions will end.
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  30. parus2nik
    +6
    27 February 2014 07: 49
    And the author, in many respects, is right .. I live on the Taman Peninsula, through our port-Caucasus, people and goods are transported by sea ferries .. This is done by JSC "Anrustrans", represented by LLC "Anship" which has three ferries, in addition GSK is engaged in the transportation of goods and people from the Ukrainian side ... but GSK when entering the port must pay port dues ... money will not come in ... and GSK will not be able to transport .. There is no water on the Taman Peninsula, yes, yes, we have water the most expensive in the Krasnodar Territory .. There is no capacity to supply gas, electricity to Crimea .. All this needs to be built .. And most of the land is agricultural, in order to build, these lands must be converted to industrial and transport lands .. It's fast it is not done, it is not possible to obtain a building permit quickly, as well as to obtain an opinion from a state examination ... etc. etc .. Our Taman department of FSUE "Rosmorport" has been building the building for 8 years .. we have not laid the foundation yet .. we are doing the above garbage
    1. +3
      27 February 2014 09: 03
      Quote: parus2nik
      through our port-Kavkaz, people and goods are transported by sea ferries .. This is done by Anrustrans CJSC, represented by Anship LLC, which has three ferries, in addition, GSK is engaged in the transportation of goods and people from the Ukrainian side .. but GSK at port dues must be paid when entering the port .. no money will be received

      When it comes to geopolitics, Anship LLC and others will cease to exist. You are an example in Sochi when you need money and opportunities, but Crimea will be provided to everyone !!!
  31. spionus
    +11
    27 February 2014 07: 53
    Hmm, and you can not argue as they say.
    Well, I heard that Russia has plans to build a bridge across the Kerch Strait, but even if you use the Spit of Tuzla, the bridge will turn out 4,5 km. So if it is, it will not be soon.
    About the Tatars, too, must not be forgotten.
    And in general, it smacks of betrayal, the whole Ukraine was in trouble, the whole Southeast wants to join Russia! And then do you understand separately to accept Crimea as part of the Russian Federation, and what to the Southeast? Dying under the Nazis?
    It is necessary to consider at least the accession of the entire South-East to the Russian Federation. And as a maximum of the whole Ukraine, eliminating this historical misunderstanding altogether. A compromise could be the federalization of Ukraine and the political "destruction" of the Nazis.
    1. +1
      27 February 2014 09: 21
      Quote: Shpionus
      It is necessary to consider at least the accession of the entire Southeast to the Russian Federation
      Say everything correctly! I also think so. Or everyone who wants to should join or clean the central government from the fascists.
  32. +3
    27 February 2014 07: 54
    The author is a sales bitch, it’s unlikely that he has clipped an article for ideological reasons. And how to help brothers, Russians know, albeit hard, but their burden does not pull!
  33. +3
    27 February 2014 07: 54
    from the Don.
    At first I wanted many to read this article!
    http://politikus.ru/articles/13657-maydan-chudes-v-strane-durakov.html
    I’ll add on my own. The majority of the population is amorphous. In Simferopol, the Tatars and: the friendship train: dispersed protesters against the current authorities in Kiev! The queue is behind Sevastopol! According to one of the correspondents on the Maidan: Militants from: Right sector: went to die and it's scary !:. You look at those who died from the so-called: heavenly hundreds:. There are guys at all! What kind of motivation should there be?! The militants have an idea-Ukraine for Ukrainians. They are ready for self-sacrifice for it. Good, bad, but it is The rest of the population simply doesn’t have it. Talking about protecting the Russians? Yes, there are practically no people left over the 20 years of independence. They have been reformatted! Especially the youth.
    1. 0
      27 February 2014 13: 12
      ! What kind of motivation should this be?
      Simple ... The fools swallowed and everything in half ... The Japanese tried this out during the Second World War, when they fed their soldiers with pills "for fear", only after the end of the war they received a multi-million army of drug addicts ... If you are interested, then googled on the topic .. And confirmation that something similar was used in Kiev, too ...
  34. +1
    27 February 2014 07: 56
    In 1939, the USSR liberated Western Ukraine from the Polish and from the impending German occupation.
    So what? Western Ukrainians flooded the liberators with tears of gratitude? showered with flowers?
    No, they shot Soviet soldiers in the back, went to serve Hitler with punishers and executioners, and after the war, for 10 years they terrorized the civilian population of Soviet Ukraine.
    Is it worth the second time to step on the same rake.
  35. +3
    27 February 2014 07: 57
    If Crimea is so subsidized, inhabited by hostile "holes", why is Ukraine so grasping for it? It would take a short time to lay a gas pipe across the strait, they threw it along the bottom and not at such distances ... It is not technically difficult to fill the spit and build a bridge. At the expense of everything else, Ukraine is still that prostitute, food and other things will be sold to the Crimea as now, even for rubles. Do not forget how much we will stop paying for the lease of the Black Sea Fleet. Everything can be solved.
  36. +3
    27 February 2014 07: 58
    Article minus. The author wants to offer another option - if the Crimea is given to the Turks or banlerlog, then the Crimeans will be in chocolate? Hell no! And the point is not in the "damaged calculator", but in the underestimation of the Crimea for Russia.
    1. 0
      27 February 2014 20: 20
      Quote: shelva
      Article minus. The author wants to offer another option - if the Crimea is given to the Turks or banlerlog, then the Crimeans will be in chocolate? Hell no! And the point is not in the "damaged calculator", but in the underestimation of the Crimea for Russia.

      Not at all. The author simply wanted to show one of the options for the development of events. Hypothetical events. That's all.
    2. 0
      27 February 2014 23: 16
      Quote: shelva
      then the Crimeans will be in chocolate? Hell no!

      Well, the color will be similar.
  37. +1
    27 February 2014 07: 58
    The problem can only be with water, and the rest can be solved. There you need to squeeze out the whole of Ukraine or all the eastern regions, otherwise you should not start it. If only Crimea is separated, they can arrange the massacre of the remaining Russians, especially in the western regions.
  38. +6
    27 February 2014 08: 00
    Russia has enough leverage over any Ukraine and in an enemy country, no one has written it down yet. They will close the import of meat, milk, the same sweets, something else, the same gas, etc. How can the Ukrainian oligarchs scream .. any government will be twisted. The planned 12 billion aid to Ukraine will be possible to swell in the Crimea. No one there will die of thirst and hunger. And in Russia, just give a cry -Help the fraternal Crimea-I'm sure the population will donate a lot of money. Well, Russia and the Crimeans are straining for a couple of years, because in return we get - CRIMEA, Crimeans RUSSIA!
  39. +4
    27 February 2014 08: 04
    Some kind of nonsense ... I won’t even answer anything, to this rude trolling.
    Article minus.
  40. 0
    27 February 2014 08: 13
    And where will the Crimeans get their resources and food if the Tatars seize power? After all, this is also a likely outcome, have they been working on this for a long time and methodically?
    1. 0
      27 February 2014 12: 04
      Quote: nahalenok911
      if the Tatars seize power?


      Oh, don’t have to punch us, we are already puffed.
    2. 0
      27 February 2014 13: 14
      Kadyrov is going to Crimea .. I think he will intelligibly explain to the local leader 2hu is xy "... Yesterday he said well on TV ..
  41. 0
    27 February 2014 08: 15
    Quote: indiggo
    did you look at the map? if necessary, engineering troops will prepare a crossing over the Kerch Strait in a week ... so let's finish

    - Why didn’t Sakhalin be connected to the mainland? Kamchatka with Magadan? Sitting at the keyboard in a soft chair, and even when my wife periodically brings tea with lemon, I can even build a bridge across the Bering Strait ...
  42. +2
    27 February 2014 08: 16
    Alexandr 2 .... It would be the desire of the people. And with the crossing you can solve everything.

    Of course. Found a problem - 4,5km strait. Between the mainland and Sakhalin many times more.
  43. +2
    27 February 2014 08: 20
    Absolute nonsense in the article. Not regarding possible problems, but regarding the alleged lack of solution methods.
  44. +2
    27 February 2014 08: 24
    another heresy, if Russia wants to, it will overcome all obstacles
  45. +2
    27 February 2014 08: 28
    The so-called article is a standard collection of scarecrows. Nobody drags Crimea to Russia. Let it be autonomy, and we will help. Only you, Banderaites, seem to be haunted by the fact that someone decided to live without you. This is democracy, guys. Get used to it.
  46. +2
    27 February 2014 08: 29
    Author! Whoa! Wake up! To what situation (place) did you decide to apply this analysis? If all chiki-bunches, then talk about independence from excess. But, in this case, from what? Remember the starting point author! Who will now bear the cost of living in Crimea? Kiev "government" ???
  47. +2
    27 February 2014 08: 29
    Remember why Peter the Great fought for the country’s access to the seas? If Crimea will be for us (no matter what status) the strategic position of Russia in the Black Sea will increase many times over. And the positions of NATO, respectively, are significantly reduced. This benefit is clearly worth the investment in the peninsula's economy.
  48. +4
    27 February 2014 08: 33
    In Novoalekseevka and Kalanchak Crimea begins by land. There will be roadblocks on these roads and railways, there is no land connection with Russia.
    Yeah. But this is not limited to. The Ukrainian fleet will introduce a sea blockade of both the Crimea and the entire Black Sea coast of Russia. The Ukrainian-Russian border will be completely blocked. And this is a blockade of Russia from all over Europe. Goods will cease to arrive, hunger will begin in Russia. The supply of gas and oil to Europe will cease, Russia will face multi-billion fines, the banking system will collapse. Ukraine will close the airspace. Businessmen with diplomats will not be able to fly, all contracts are canceled. Millions of Russian tourists (the color of the nation) will not be able to relax abroad and die from fatigue at work. Will we continue the horror stories? Or right away, stock up on matches and run into the forests of the Urals and Siberia?
    Sorry Marine, but article. bullshit.
    1. +2
      27 February 2014 12: 06
      Quote: man in the street
      stock up with matches and run into the forests of the Urals and Siberia?
      1. 0
        27 February 2014 13: 22
        Well, thank you. Neighing from the heart.
    2. 0
      27 February 2014 20: 27
      It seems like you didn’t read the article or didn’t want to understand what I wrote. I repeat. I gave you only one option of a hypothetical development. I did not say that this is true!
      Quote: man in the street
      Sorry Marine, but article. bullshit.
  49. 0
    27 February 2014 08: 33
    I think so, but anti-Russian articles on the resource should simply not be skipped. We have full right to censorship.
  50. +1
    27 February 2014 08: 45
    Yes, it’s not necessary to introduce it into Russia, let the Republic of Crimea be better, it will be good for everyone, well, Ukraine will certainly be like that woman Yaga
  51. 0
    27 February 2014 08: 45
    Here everyone is dividing and dividing Ukraine, but the real question is how long will this power last?
    Now the time will come to resolve issues of an economic and social nature, so I ask: how long can this government last?
    Month? Maybe two, maybe a year!?
    No need to run ahead of the engine.
  52. +1
    27 February 2014 08: 57
    Quote: Strezhevchanin
    a year at most!?

    without money for a whole year? Only the Bolsheviks were able to do this, because the idea was above all, but here there is no idea except to cut the dough
  53. +2
    27 February 2014 09: 03
    AUTO RU
    Look at the map, find the Kaliningrad region there and think! Still have questions?
  54. +1
    27 February 2014 09: 05
    The problems of supplying Crimea are exaggerated in the article by an order of magnitude.
    There is enough gas and water in the adjacent Russian territories across the Kerch Strait, we know how to lay pipes along the bottom.
    Delivering food by sea will be cheaper than by rail. There is nothing stopping you from arranging a ferry crossing.
    Crimea has something to give to Russia, besides the Black Sea Fleet site, there are minerals, vineyards, sanatoriums, etc.
    The problem is a political settlement. It is impossible to do without military action and the suppression of nationalist and pro-fascist elements, in any case, no matter who Crimea belongs to.
  55. ed65b
    +2
    27 February 2014 09: 13
    About the bridge. Guys, remember that we are Russians and if we really want to, we will build a bridge in 3 months. Putin has a project, but he wants to add a gas line and an electric cable to it. expand the project and run trains. in general, if the bridge is specific.
  56. 0
    27 February 2014 09: 23
    there is no need to spoil Crimea, let it remain in its current state :-) Let it be better according to Aksenov "...Five giant plane trees cast ever-quivering shadows on the colored tiles, along which young waiters quickly rushed, a half-naked cosmopolitan crowd shuffled and, dancing, walked from tables to the sea and back, stunning Yalta girls who called themselves, in the Soviet manner, “cadres.” They were not so much half naked, but simply put, undressed - colored gauze on their nipples and pubes, compared to which any of the most daring bikinis of the last decade seemed like a monk's robe."
  57. +1
    27 February 2014 09: 30
    Take a calculator and do the math. If Crimea restores autonomy, then Russia will pay money for the lease of the fleet to Crimea, and not to thieving Kyiv officials with their bottomless pockets and not to the West of Ukraine, which lives off subsidies. That’s why they drove to Simferopol in such a friendly manner. But people clearly have no intelligence, but Western intelligence services know how to work. Therefore, instead of sitting down, consulting and simply thinking about how to make their lives better, people start killing each other to the delight of foreign puppet masters.
  58. Alexander Veter
    0
    27 February 2014 09: 35
    Everything will be fine guys with Crimea and Ukraine. Here - http://chipstone.livejournal.com/1177033.html - interesting analytics. Gives hope for a good outcome
  59. +1
    27 February 2014 09: 40
    If order is not urgently restored in Ukraine, and they have already started from the wrong side, then even without much desire they will have to send troops there. They will leave the people without money and then another revolution (hungry) will begin. Part of my family lives in Ukraine, and offers to move to Russia are rejected. Everyone is waiting... something is going to happen soon. Crimea alone cannot be separated.
    1. onegin61
      +1
      27 February 2014 10: 10
      what will the new Ukrainian government do without the eastern, southeastern part, where the entire industry and economy, which does not accept this government, will organize and choose the direction of interaction with Russia, which is what is heading towards this. It will definitely not feed the western part, but the western handouts will eventually run out.
  60. +1
    27 February 2014 09: 49
    and the Apocalypse came to Crimea! and the Banderlogs rejoiced, knocking empty plates on the remains of the paving stones on the Maidan. and the Marine Valera sang on Surzhik sche ne vmerla ukraine! supporting dirty camouflage with a thin hand.... generally a strange article. Who, I wonder, ordered it for the author?
  61. 0
    27 February 2014 09: 54
    Stupid nonsense in the article.
    Ukraine is giving something there... Nonsense. The Ukrainian government is bankrupt in five minutes, this giveaway.
    Unfortunately, the government is dragging its people along with it. request The problem of the land border with the Russian Federation is especially amusing. lol The lion's share of cargo worldwide travels by sea.
    Or stupid reasoning: the light and water will be turned off. It’s as if the most independent people, living on debt, can’t be turned off.
    And in the Crimean issue, the main economic and infrastructure problems are not at all the main ones.
    The most disgusting thing is that the Armed Forces of Crimea seem to have moved not far from the shabby Yanukovych.
    There are few real violent ones, and there are no leaders! Yes
    But, with the organization of real (armed) resistance to the Banderlogs and the hulks who joined them, those who carried out the coup are unlikely to have the strength and desire (with the exception of those who are completely Maidan) to die in Crimea. They want to enjoy the benefits of geyropa. And for free Yes , and not to fight.
    And even if there is serious bloodshed, international law allows intervention, say, by Russia, to stop it.
    But such interference means one thing: Crimea has floated from Ukraine into autonomy.
    1. onegin61
      0
      27 February 2014 10: 10
      what will the new Ukrainian government do without the eastern, southeastern part, where the entire industry and economy, which does not accept this government, will organize and choose the direction of interaction with Russia, which is what is heading towards this. It will definitely not feed the western part, but the western handouts will eventually run out.
  62. -1
    27 February 2014 09: 56
    Another fantasy, another white ribbon.
  63. 0
    27 February 2014 09: 59
    I don't agree with the article. And regarding the issue of supply, it is not simple, but also not in the category of impossible. It's kind of stupid.
  64. onegin61
    -2
    27 February 2014 10: 01
    The article is the nonsense of a madman, let the author better think about what the new Ukrainian government will do without the eastern, southeastern part, where the entire industry and economy, which does not accept this government, will organize and choose the direction of interaction with Russia, which is what is heading towards it The western part will definitely not be fed, and Western handouts will eventually run out.
  65. onegin61
    -1
    27 February 2014 10: 09
    Quote: sys-1985
    Everyone is waiting... something is going to happen soon. Crimea alone cannot be separated.

    what will the new Ukrainian government do without the eastern, southeastern part, where the entire industry and economy, which does not accept this government, will organize and choose the direction of interaction with Russia, which is what is heading towards this. It will definitely not feed the western part, but the western handouts will eventually run out.
  66. +1
    27 February 2014 10: 15
    We have every right to censor.


    Greetings from Lavrenty Pavlovich!
  67. +4
    27 February 2014 10: 17
    Quote: borisjdin1957
    I’ll add on my own behalf. The majority of the population is amorphous. In Simferopol, the Tatars and: the friendship train: dispersed the protesters against the current government in Kiev! The line is behind Sevastopol! According to one of the correspondents who was on the Maidan,: Militants from the: Right Sector: they were going to die and it’s scary !:.Look at the dead from the so-called:heavenly hundred:.There are even boys!What kind of motivation should this be?!

    I’ll add on my own behalf - they dispersed it on the screens of Ukrainian television.... I’ll also add - the Simferopol police received an order to do their best to facilitate the Tatar gathering. Therefore, as if dividing, at the same time, she pushed the Russian part a little to the side, allowing the Tatars passage into the building. But there they were met by their own people from the Mejlis and kicked out. Although the youth are now in tension with the Mejlis, they have felt the light blood of Syria.... The Crimean Mountains are not the Caucasus....
    thirdly, in the square they gathered everyone they could from the villages, and the Russian population was at work at that time... You know, families need to be fed while everything is working.
    Last night, Ramzan Kadyrov addressed the Tatars, reminded them whose money they used to build their mosques, and generally promised to go with the Chechen train of friendship to them...

    There is no need to focus too much attention... Tatars are 14%, this number includes the elderly, women, children... 260 Tatars, according to Clausewitz’s formula they will be able to put no more than 000% under arms with full mobilization... Even without throwing away the adults We have 10 experienced men, divide by half and get a maximum of 26-000 in all Tatar settlements... Physically, they will not be able to form an army - because the army is, first of all, logistics... But they don’t have it. Turkey, due to the special relationship between Erdogan and Putin, will not give them money; Turkey’s representative in Europe has already spoken clearly about the events in Ukraine.

    I will not downvote the article, because the person expressed his point of view, his pain as a citizen of Ukraine, his fears, which, by the way, have a real basis...

    Personally, I am categorically against tearing off pieces from Ukraine.... This redistribution will not give anything good and positive.... This is an extreme case if blood begins to flow. Understand - it is simply impossible for Russia to send troops into Ukraine.... Even to think about this... Draw a picture of what will happen as soon as the first sole of the Russian boot sets foot on the territory of Ukraine?

    All differences will be forgotten at once, the wavering part of the population will join the radicals and...in Washington, Obama and Nuland will jump naked in an embrace on the lawn in front of the White House with happiness.

    Yesterday Razumovsky said correctly: “We are the kind of people who wouldn’t trample our ogirki.. Who’s there? Is the Swedish army marching? Why, it’s marching.. Russian? Well, it’s marching, tilki my ogirki, oh, it’s not trampling... But if it tramples, let them say that they will take away the fat, then..." Then we will get a war of attrition, and the cruelty of the Caucasus will nervously stand on the sidelines...

    Let them figure it out themselves... In the end, the Tyagniboks in vain imagined themselves to be immortal... And Yarosh is not as dense as they paint him, I saw his smart eyes.... Wait and wait... And above all the East and South The East MUST organize itself... While there is dual power there - the police and the SBU quickly recognized the new government, who doesn't know - arrest warrants have been issued for DOBKIN, KERNES, the mayors of Simferopol, Sevastopol... The day before yesterday in Sevastopol, local cops tried to storm... the base " Berkut", like disarm...

    There is no unity. The Maidanists in the Dnieper, Kharkov and Donetsk are protected by the police on orders from Kyiv, and the defenders of Kharkov land are being packed up by their own cops under the article of separatism.
    1. 0
      28 February 2014 02: 32
      Quote: Santor
      I will not downvote the article, because the person expressed his point of view, his pain as a citizen of Ukraine, his fears, which, by the way, have a real basis...

      Thank you Victor! You are one of the few here who has retained common sense. hi
  68. Gromila555
    +1
    27 February 2014 10: 19
    I am from Sevastopol. We are calm, we rumpled a little Junka :).
    The main problem right now is the LACK of reliable information about the situation around us: CRIMEA, SOUTH, EAST, WEST OF UKRAINE.
    If there are opportunities and a desire to help, I ask you to help informationally, for example, send reporters of Russian television channels to all possible regions and cities of Ukraine and organize constant broadcasting from the scene. You can create resources (use existing ones) and fill them with OBJECTIVE information, there should be a maximum amount of such resources.
    We are under tremendous pressure, streams of lies and dirt are pouring, we practically do not know what is happening around us, reporters nat. channels are smiling and laughing, as if they were not the ones who were foaming and snoting a week ago, demanding "democracy." The subtext of the news is as follows: "Why bustle, everything is fine with us, we are in Europe"
    A big problem is that our leaders do not have a program "HOW TO LIVE NEXT", the direction of further movement is not clear, there are no understandable slogans and movements.
    We are very vulnerable and if in the near future the main provisions of the new structure of life are not clarified, the situation in the country does not become clear, we will simply SOMETH INFORMATION and we will go home.
  69. +1
    27 February 2014 10: 23
    It is rare to see such a real analysis of the situation among the “patriotic” garbage. It is not possible to agree with all positions, but the main provisions fully correspond to the actual state. Respect to the author, he is very good. a good analyst, and this is a very valuable quality.
  70. Gagarin
    +2
    27 February 2014 10: 34
    The article is panicky tears. It was difficult to count, you don’t have to re-read all the comments, they are very, very predictable. The author of the opus MAYDANSCHIK!
    1. 0
      28 February 2014 02: 41
      Quote: Gagarin
      The author of the opus MAYDANSCHIK!

      Rather neutral. I support Maidan in only one way. “Get out of the gang!” I don’t accept the opposition represented by three clowns, as well as the right sector. Before accusing me of something, at least bothered to look at where I’m from and read what I wrote before. Learn to respect people. Although I’m not in the habit of getting insults for their views, which sometimes do not quite coincide with the official point of view. You are not the first and you will not be the last.
  71. Tex
    Tex
    +2
    27 February 2014 11: 01
    typical nonsense, the person is clearly out of touch. Don’t discount the Donbass (12% of the population of Ukraine, by the way, is only the Donetsk region!!! I’m silent about the percentage in the economy) which is increasingly interacting with Sevostopol at the level of patriotic associations. The departure of Crimea by 99% is the departure of the entire east, which means that Everyone else will be left without “light and water.”
    1. 0
      28 February 2014 02: 46
      Quote: Teks
      the person is clearly out of touch

      You simply don’t want to or, due to your mind, you can’t think. I’m just sure that you skimmed the article or maybe you just didn’t read it and immediately joined the general mass of commentators shouting: AT HIM! ATU!
  72. Orakyl
    0
    27 February 2014 11: 19
    Who said that only Crimea? The author develops the topic correctly! Ukraine is not divisible. I was glad about the gas, as soon as it runs out in Crimea, it will immediately run out in other places, where is the faucet?
  73. 0
    27 February 2014 11: 25
    We pay so much money for renting bases that the whole of Crimea may not work at all, so about 30% is too much. Next, there is no need to shaggy grandma, dragging a gas pipeline to Europe along the bottom, and creating a water supply system and a gas branch to the Crimea is generally not a problem, I’m telling you this as a civil engineer. The ferry across the strait from Kerch runs regularly and nothing beyond the ordinary is needed to establish food supplies and the state can compensate for them. Probably now you will tell me oh oh where I can get the money and time for all this. With money, everything is simple, enough money will be freed up from paying rent. Over time, it becomes more problematic, but this can also be overcome if desired. But all this talk is in favor of the poor. We will build Crimea!!!!! In order not to kill him, we need power in Russia not just with teeth but with fangs and similar leaders. He conducts exercises and scared a hedgehog with his bare bottom, even children know that not a single tank will even come close to the Ukrainian border.
    1. 0
      28 February 2014 02: 55
      Quote: kapitan281271
      We pay so much money for renting bases that the whole of Crimea may not work at all, so about 30% is too much
      So the fact of the matter, dear one, is that our kings in Kiev and a little less in Crimea are pocketing this loot. And your “fair government” in the person of Putin also guaranteed him asylum. Oh...th! He already bought a dacha with ruble for 52 lyama. Do you even know who was elected prime minister in Crimea yesterday? Google it. Former gang leader nicknamed “Goblin” And by the way, he’s already asking for money from Russia. Are you going to feed another swindler Ivor? But what about the people? After all, a person with a criminal past will steal anyway. Just like Yanukovych and his gang did...
  74. serge
    +1
    27 February 2014 11: 25
    If Crimea acquires the status of a region of the Russian Federation, then it will be supplied no worse than other regions of the Russian Federation.
    Even better - look at Chechnya, for example. It has already been stated that in the short term Crimea
    Five billion (!) dollars will be invested.
    If Crimea acquires the status of a region of the Russian Federation, then Crimean pensioners will no longer receive Ukrainian pensions,
    but they will begin to receive Russian ones, which are significantly higher. Including pensioners from the Crimean Tatars.
    The Crimean Tatars will be much better off in the Russian Federation than in Ukraine, simply financially better.
    As well as state employees. Russia's budget is richer.
    If terrorists suddenly appear from among the Crimean Tatars, then Russia has rich experience in the fight against terrorism
    in the much more densely populated Caucasus. Moreover, in Crimea, these terrorists will have the ground burning under their feet, not like in Dagestan.
    The expenses of Crimea will be financed from the budget of the Russian Federation, with which the Ukrainian budget is simply ridiculous to compare.
    If Crimea acquires the status of a region of the Russian Federation, it will buy in Ukraine with Russian money everything that it previously bought with Ukrainian money, that’s all.
    Crimea does not border Western Ukraine, so there will be no blockade of Crimea.
    And if unorganized Banderlogs try to organize one, then being a region of the Russian Federation, Crimea will be able to rely on the Russian army. Combat-ready, unlike the collapsed Ukrainian one.
  75. 0
    27 February 2014 11: 36
    I won’t argue now whether it’s necessary or not, but the Kaliningrad region somehow exists
  76. Blind
    0
    27 February 2014 11: 38
    Quote: Alexander Romanov

    In Novoalekseevka and Kalanchak Crimea begins by land. There will be roadblocks on these roads and railways, there is no land connection with Russia.

    And for a long time to build a bridge across the Kerch Strait? And secondly, we have no connection with Kamchatka, but nothing, all that is needed is sailing.


    A humanitarian catastrophe will start: the shortage of food, water, medicines, there will be no electricity ... Tritely there will be nothing to flush in the toilet, there is nothing to prepare food for, there will be no fuel to take the garbage out of the city, etc.
    Horror catch up.
    Ah, damn the author (morpex is a Ukrainian from our site, who meets any criticism of Ukraine with minuses. It is understandable.


    It won’t take long to build a bridge across the Kerch Strait.. 5-7 years..)
    I wouldn’t compare it with Kamchatka, though - firstly, the population there is completely different, and secondly, the region was initially populated with the concept that they would have to live in it in a semi-autonomous mode.

    The author, for the most part, painted everything correctly - well, maybe he thickened the colors a little here and there. but, indeed, there will be so many problems in the event of a blockade of the peninsula from Ukraine...
  77. 0
    27 February 2014 12: 30
    Odessa held out for 2 months and was evacuated only after the situation on the southern front had changed.
    Sevastopl held out for almost a year.
    Leningrad held out for 3 years.
    This is so, historical information.

    Regarding pensions - since Ukraine has nothing to pay them with - loans can only plug the gaps for a month before they are taken away.
    Regarding the GTS - they will close - good luck, the ENTIRE Ukrainian GTS system could close in a moment and this is a complete waste of industry, as well as a drop in gas supplies to Europe (the pressure can be lowered in the north-south flow). Which will immediately be unpleasant for Europe too.
    Plus for some reason they are silent about the Kerch ferry.

    Of course, all this is unpleasant, but I’m afraid that inhumane executions may not begin there. Although the "Ministry of Truth" (c) has already appeared.
  78. 0
    27 February 2014 12: 42
    Quote: Fin
    Crimea is mostly steppe, what militants!!! All the Crimean Mountains are tourist routes, every crevice is known. With political will, everything can be kept under control.

    I would not say so, I advise you to read, if you find it, “Crimean Notebooks” by Ilya Vergasov, chief of staff of the partisan detachments of the Yalta region from 1942 to 1944. Memoirs of a partisan about the war in Crimea, very interesting.
  79. 0
    27 February 2014 12: 49
    Quote: Horn
    - Why didn’t Sakhalin be connected to the mainland? Kamchatka with Magadan? Sitting at the keyboard in a soft chair, and even when my wife periodically brings tea with lemon, I can even build a bridge across the Bering Strait ...

    March 1953. Less than a month has passed since Stalin's death. The Council of Ministers, by resolution No. 895-385 of March 25, 1953, stops the construction of 25 important strategic facilities.
    Among them is a tunnel-bridge crossing from the mainland to Sakhalin Island. Among them is the circumpolar railway from Vorkuta to the mouth of the Yenisei. Both construction projects create conditions for accessibility of strategically significant territories of the USSR. So there will be a need - a bridge or a tunnel will be built across the strait, they built nothing under the English Channel, but there will be a wider area and a different climate. And those who will build today will he yells on the Maidaun, but he sits on the baked goods and doesn’t mind the Maidauns.
  80. 0
    27 February 2014 12: 53
    Well, actually the author exaggerates greatly. Mobile diesel generator and gas piston power plants at key facilities can be deployed, if not in a few hours, then certainly in a few days; all this is available in the Russian Federation. Throwing temporary high-voltage cable lines along the bottom of the Kerch Strait and connecting them to the power grid will also not be a problem - it will take a couple of weeks, maybe three, no more. Adding a temporary gas pipeline is a matter of months, until then we have enough tankers to transfer fuel. Until next winter, all of the problems listed are completely solvable, and nothing is impossible. Of course, there will be difficulties, but they can be solved, especially by a state like Russia. For the distorted analysis of the situation, I gave the article a minus.
  81. Sova
    0
    27 February 2014 13: 02
    Question to the author. Have you ever lived in Crimea? It says the water is running out. Complete nonsense. More than half of Crimea uses artesian wells. The food will run out, resulting in hunger. Generally complete nonsense. Crimea has a strong production base. Let me name a few companies off the top of my head. In the Krasnogvardeisky district there is a huge agricultural enterprise. PGT Veseloye - Ryaba Chicken enterprise. There are also many enterprises in the Dzhankoy district. So for some time the food supply will be fine. There will be just enough time to build bridges for the supply of food through Kerch.
    1. 0
      28 February 2014 02: 58
      Quote: sova
      Complete nonsense.

      No, it’s not nonsense. Rather, you don’t have the information.
  82. 0
    27 February 2014 14: 05
    Decree of the President of Ukraine No. 90 / 2014 of February 27 2014

    (Translated from Ukrainian)

    22-23 February in Ukraine there was a military coup in which groups of armed Nazi militants with military-political support of foreign powers seized the central government in the capital city of Kiev, and a number of regional administrations in the western part of the country.

    Some of the political forces of Ukraine acted as traitors to the people and collaborators, collaborating with fascists who seized state power in the capital, with the goal of forming a puppet government entirely dependent on external sponsors of this coup, represented by the United States of America and NATO countries, primarily Germany and Poland. Fascist gangs ousted employees of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine from Kiev, captured the Central Rada, and instituted reprisals against deputies who did not support the coup, including beatings, abductions, burning houses and threats of reprisals against deputies and their families. In this regard, the continuation of the activities of the constitutional authorities in Kiev became impossible for military reasons.

    To cover the goals of the coup d'état, the participants used the “Agreement on the settlement of the crisis in Ukraine” of February 21 of 2014, in which, together with me they stated: “They intend to form a coalition and form a Government of national unity within 10 days”, before the first Martha. This Agreement was initialed by the Ministers of Foreign Affairs of France, Germany and Poland, who later not only failed to fulfill their obligations as guarantors of the Agreement, but also took a direct part in promoting a coup in Ukraine.
  83. 0
    27 February 2014 14: 06
    The President of Ukraine remains the only party to this Agreement, which strictly and fully complied with its obligations. In connection with the expiration of the period announced by the Agreement of February 21 for the formation of the Government of National Unity in Ukraine, and the attempts of part of the putschists to form their own illegal puppet government in Kiev, I announce the following measures of the legal authority of Ukraine to restore the constitutional order:

    1. Repeal Decree of the President of Ukraine No. 52/2014 of January 28, 2014 “On the resignation of the Prime Minister of Ukraine and the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine”. Members of the Cabinet of Ministers, their deputies, and heads of departments and services to arrive at the point indicated by me in the Circular Letter to continue the work of the legitimate Government of Ukraine in the manner provided for by Decree No. 950 “On Confirming Regulation to the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine.” The Cabinet of Misters should take exhaustive measures for restoration of public administration, and fulfillment of the Government’s social obligations in regions not occupied by the putschists, paying particular attention to the issues of paying pensions, allowances, and measures of social support for the population in the regions, as well as resolving material issues and paying salaries to law enforcement agencies loyal to the legitimate authority, and determining measures of material support National squads and sources of their financing. In case of insufficient funds, to betray for the purposes the deployment of the services of the People’s squads in the regions of any state property, and the right to use it locally.

    2. Determine the location of the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander of Ukraine - the Headquarters of the Navy of Ukraine, Sevastopol. The Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian Navy, Admiral Yuriy Ilyin, to take comprehensive measures to establish communications with all parts, units and ships of the Armed Forces of the Ukrainian Navy in order to comply with the unconditional sovereignty, territorial integrity and protection of the legitimate government bodies of Ukraine. Temporarily assign him the duties of chief of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. To all commanders of units, subunits and ships no more than 24 hours after the promulgation of the Decree, to get in touch with the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander in the city of Sevastopol, about which I have issued Order No. 1 of the Supreme Commander. After the expiration of the specified period, consider all commanders who have not complied with the requirements of the Order as traitors, without an additional Order, to deprive them of their military rank, with stripping off the epaulettes before the formation. Junior officers take measures to remove them, including the use of weapons to defeat those who have resisted, in order to immediately comply with the Orders of the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander, and report on the execution of the order to the Chief of the General Staff in Sevastopol.

    3. Heads of the militia and the SBU of Ukraine go over to military service in the order specified by order No. XXUMX of the Supreme Commander, All commanders of the police units within 2 hours after promulgation of the Decree to get in touch with the Headquarters of the Supreme Commander in the city of Sevastopol. After the expiration of this period, consider all commanders of the police and SBU units who have not fulfilled the requirements of Order No. XXUMX as traitors, without an additional Order to remove them from office, with the aim of the junior officers to take measures to remove them, including the use of weapons to defeat resistance, with the aim of immediately fulfilling the Orders of the Supreme Commander’s Stake, and to report on the implementation of the Order to me personally.
  84. 0
    27 February 2014 14: 08
    4. To foreign powers wishing to maintain diplomatic relations with Ukraine, to send their naval attachés for communication with the legal leadership of the country to the main headquarters of the Ukrainian Navy, Sevastopol, before creating the conditions for accreditation of foreign embassies in it.

    5. Determine the location of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine and the National Bank of Ukraine at the location of the Supreme Commander General Headquarters. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Head of the Central Bank to warn foreign powers about the inadmissibility of the theft of Ukraine’s financial reserves, which only the legal authorities of the country have the right to dispose of, and to restore correspondent relations with international banks and financial organizations. In the case of theft. appropriating or freezing these funds, or using them at the direction of the illegal provisional authorities of Kiev, to compensate for the losses due to the nationalization of funds and property owned by the Governments, organizations and citizens of the countries concerned, up to a judicial decision of this issue in the interests of Ukraine. In this regard, the Government should freeze all assets of foreign companies and any companies with foreign participation and transfer them to full state administration, until the confirmation of the readiness of foreign powers to faithfully fulfill their financial obligations to the legal Government of Ukraine.

    6. Offer everyone loyal to the Constitution of Ukraine to deputies of the Verkhovna Rada to arrive in the city of Sevastopol for the 3 March 2014 mobile session, with an agenda on depriving them of immunity and deputy powers of the armed coup in the city of Kiev, before the elections to the Verkhovna Rada and the resumption of its work under the occupation of the historical capital country.

    7. To the elected authorities in the regions of Ukraine, by March 3, to propose to me the candidatures of the leaders of the respective regions, from among the deputies, or citizens loyal to the legal Government of the country. Candidates with mandates from representative authorities should arrive in the city of Sevastopol by March 3, for approval by me as Governors. Prior to this period, all elected local authorities should form People’s Squads, from among those loyal to the legitimate Government of the country, appointing them as heads of officers with military experience, or employees of the Berkut and Internal Troops units who have distinguished themselves by their personal courage in defending the legitimate authorities in the city of Kiev, as well as independently take all necessary measures to restore constitutional order throughout Ukraine.

    President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych
    27 February 2014 of the year
    1. 0
      28 February 2014 03: 00
      Quote: vezunchik
      President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych
      27 February 2014 of the year

      Is it still not clear that Yanukovych as a politician is deader than dead...
      1. 0
        28 February 2014 15: 27
        Quote: morpex
        Is it still not clear that Yanukovych as a politician is deader than dead...

        So why can't OTHERS play him?
  85. 0
    27 February 2014 17: 14
    Author VALERY (morpex

    Go get treatment, you lousy analyst.
    Anyone who disagrees with this, find another geographically and politically similar example.

    Kaliningrad
    1. 0
      28 February 2014 03: 03
      Quote: Ulus5
      Go get treatment, you lousy analyst.

      Well, I insulted you. Are you happy? And on the matter, is there anything to object to? Or are there not enough convolutions?
  86. 0
    27 February 2014 18: 50
    Soldiers of the Crimean and Sevastopol “Berkut”, as well as a number of special forces officers from other regions of Ukraine, who refused to recognize the liquidation, rebelled, blocking the roads with machine guns and grenade launchers, said MP from “Batkivshchyna” Gennady b. "Berkut" rebelled. I blocked two entrances - to Chongar, and blocked the second entrance from Armyansk,” the deputy said. He added that this was the Crimean, Sevastopol “Berkut” and a number of “Berkut” members who “did not agree with the populist decision that Avakov made.” When asked to clarify exactly what actions the Berkut men resorted to, he said: “They deployed machine guns and grenade launchers.” He also clarified that Berkut fighters occupied these positions at night, “together with those who occupied the house of the government of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the Verkhovna Rada of Crimea.” ь expressed the opinion that this situation is threatening, and it could end in “ten or a hundred times more casualties than there were during the confrontation in Kyiv.” And about. Ukrainian Interior Minister Arsen Avakov signed a decree on the liquidation of the Berkut special forces unit, whose fighters confronted the protesters in Kyiv. They are ready to provide shelter to the disgraced Berkut members in Crimea, and a number of Russian figures have already made a proposal to help the special forces representatives.

    Source: http://politikus.ru/articles/13750-v-batkivschine-soobschili-o-bunte-krymskogo-b
    erkuta.html
    Politikus.ru
    1. 0
      27 February 2014 19: 01
      Quote: Russ69
      . And about. Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov signed a decree on the liquidation of the Berkut special forces,

      After all, the Maidan did not recognize him, so what are the decrees?
  87. 0
    28 February 2014 02: 31
    brought by sea (for 2 million people, no fleet would be enough to bring at least 1 kg per day per person),

    Quote: domokl
    2 and a half million Crimeans with everything they need through the Sea of ​​Azov..

    per kilogram? those. 2000 ton ship? - Volgobalt and Volgodon - 3-5 thousand tons of carrying capacity, almost any port can receive a dozen of them per day, and they can sail not only by sea, but also to river mouths.

    Moreover, all this is a utopia; during the war between the US north and south, the same companies supplied the warring parties with provisions. Or does the author naively believe that where there is a shortage of something and they pay 1,5 times the normal price, the neighbors will look and sympathize? yeah, right now - they will work 24 hours a day supplying and earning
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      28 February 2014 03: 05
      Quote: nod739
      Moreover, all this is a utopia,

      What am I talking about? The article says it in black and white: let’s imagine for a moment such a SCENARIO.
      1. 0
        28 February 2014 15: 43
        Quote: morpex
        What am I talking about?

        Looking at things soberly, the scenario - Crimea is part of the Russian Federation, only plays into the hands of the enemies, both Ukraine and Russia.
        Maximum very broad autonomy (Constitution of 92?) within Ukraine.
        And then it will be seen until the Maidanists who came to power, who have a choice, suddenly began to change their rhetoric. Yes, there are stubborn people, but they have no choice, except for slogans about the Russian threat, there is nothing behind them.
        Another possible option is like in Transnistria and YES, the option of a split is possible, but this will definitely be a very bloody scenario. And here and there. Friends will devour the Westerners. Maybe that’s why they provoke them, in order to profit from the lands.
        Well, where else in Europe can you find such naive people risking the territories of their state.
        By the way, Poland may well take land as payment.
  88. 0
    28 February 2014 21: 41
    ARC will turn into a real Mordor,
    More like Arkanar!
  89. Everest2014
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    12 March 2014 18: 55
    In 1944, the bridge was erected from building materials abandoned by retreating German troops. Please note - it was built hastily during the war! Now the re-construction of the bridge will be faster. Comments about the construction of the bridge stretched out over years are groundless. Therefore, the article with hunger and thirst is far-fetched and has no right to life.

    PS If anyone is interested, the page is googled using the words “bridge across the Kerch Strait.”
  90. Nikola105
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    16 July 2014 10: 36
    Dear authors of the article and its commentators!
    Time has judged us and now Crimea is part of Russia! No one is starving there; on the contrary, everyone is feeling good and happy. They not only receive pensions and benefits, but receive them in increased amounts. Many aspects of Crimean life have received qualitative improvement and development. Hope for development, self-sufficiency and prospects appeared in people's hearts. Now fathers, mothers and their children will proudly look at maps of Russia and Crimea together, shaded in the same color. By the way, according to information from the Drofa publishing house (http://www.drofa.ru/news/450.htm), maps of Russia and Crimea can already be purchased for sale - a political map of the world, an administrative map of Russia. By the beginning of the school year, all Russian children will learn using new atlases and contour maps. SALUTE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!!!!
  91. Cipollino
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    19 August 2014 14: 19
    to build a bridge now is to admit that there will be no Novorossiya, but a pontoon bridge would not hurt, I don’t know why they don’t do it, everything is always through the anus.

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