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Dish of the season: Chicken Kiev with credit sauce

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Representatives of the so-called new Ukrainian authorities decided to count how much financial resources Ukraine needs, if not “for complete happiness,” then for patching all the holes that gape in the country's economy. Acting head of the Ukrainian Ministry of Finance (ministry, excuse me, why? ..) Yuri Kolobov and colleagues counted that the treasury in the coming years will need as much 35 billion dollars. To these calculations, an unambiguous addition was made by the Acting Head of the Ministry of Energy Edward Stavitsky. Mr Stavitsky said in an interview with Reutres that in order for Ukraine to overcome the economic crisis, the price of Russian gas (which Vladimir Putin and Viktor Yanukovych agreed not so long ago) should not change, despite changes in power. And this, remarkably, against the background of statements by other people who declared themselves “new authorities of the country” that Ukraine is not going to pay Russia a penny for the gas already consumed (the amount of Kiev’s debt to Moscow for gas alone is more than 1,6 billions of dollars ). An interesting thing, it turns out: we ourselves are “fire victims”, and therefore give money, give cheap gas, give, give, give ... And despite the fact that we will not pay for past deliveries, because Moscow has negotiated with another government about them ... truly "holy" simplicity ...


Dish of the season: Chicken Kiev with credit sauce


Against the background of the monstrous economic crisis in which Ukraine has plunged, there are also “smart” statements about where to take the 35 mentioned above billions of “gray-green”. One of those light heads, through whose mouth the idea of ​​a financial donor for Ukraine appeared to the world, is the head of Arseniy Yatsenyuk. Yes, yes, the same Arseniy Petrovich Yatsenyuk, who, in his 30 with a small one in the government of Yuriy Yekhanurov (during the presidency of the unforgettable Viktor Yushchenko), already ruled the Ukrainian economy as minister. And then, it must be admitted, Arseny Petrovich did not differ in the breadth of ideas about the transformation of the Ukrainian economy, and now he doesn’t differ either, although from short orange pants of a Komsomol member he seemed to have grown up ... Well, is it not ingenious? .. Of course, it is ingenious, if we also take into account that today's aggregate national debt of the country has exceeded a billion dollars for 73.

After the Ukrainian “rulers” began to practice calculating the volume of funds needed by the Ukrainian economy, “friends of Ukraine” from among Western politicians began to think about “finding reserves” - true, for the most part - on the side. Some pointed at Russia with a finger - they say, Moscow could have thrown billions ... dtsat "free Ukraine". Others (for example, the Polish "friends" in the person of the foreign minister, who often himself looked at the Maidan), said that Ukraine could be helped by capital owned by the "former" authorities. Chief Polish diplomat Radoslaw Sikorski, in particular, noted:

It seems to me that, since the Ukrainian parliament nationalized this disgusting Yanukovych villa, he should take a closer look at other assets of the ruling elite. This should also be a source of support for reforms in Ukraine.


A huge responsibility lies with some EU member states, whom we have been persuading for weeks to do something with this property, which everyone knows are stored in Western accounts.


ABOUT! Yes, Mr. Sikorsky, it turns out, is a socialist and a Bolshevik: the expropriation of the expropriators and all that ... And they say that the real Bolsheviks are now extinct in Poland ...

Immediately after the congenial idea of ​​Mr. Yatsenyuk, representatives of the IMF, which was "mentioned in vain", were gathered in Ukraine for Ukraine. IMF Managing Director Ms. Lagarde said that the foundation’s mission is almost on suitcases sitting and waiting for Ukraine to officially (and not only through Yatsenyuk’s considerations) call on her to monitor the situation. Christine Lagarde noted that financial assistance to Ukraine can be allocated through the IMF channels only if the Ukrainian government is finally formed.

Well, here Mrs. Lagard is precisely cunning. Indeed, besides creating a new government, the IMF expects something else from Ukraine and something else ... So what? This question has a clear answer to the resource. WikiLeakswhich at the end of last year published a complete list of the requirements of the International Monetary Fund to Ukraine, which are the conditions for granting that loan. WikiLeaks unveiled a correspondence between representatives of the US State Department, who gave IMF “advice” on how its leadership should act when considering the request of the Ukrainian authorities for a loan. In addition, WikiLeaks published materials that shed light on the fact that Ukraine’s American diplomatic mission in Kiev also actively provided its services in communicating information about the need to fulfill the requirements of the IMF (read: the United States).

WikiLeaks, to which, to put it mildly, certain claims in the United States itself, publishes the following list of IMF requirements for Ukraine (it can be assumed that these requirements are unlikely to be revised compared to the end of last year):

1. Raising the retirement age for three years for women and two for men. Eliminating the rule of double experience when working at hazardous facilities.

2. Setting the retirement age for army officers at 60 years. Refusal to pay pension benefits to scientists, employees of state enterprises and other categories of citizens.

3. The increase in electricity prices for the end user over the next year by 40%. The increase in gas prices on 50% for municipal enterprises and almost twice for individuals. Increasing excise taxes on gasoline.

4. Decide on the 50% increase in transport tax. Freeze a living wage. The use of opportunities exclusively point subsidies.

5. The abolition of state support in the organization of school meals, the purchase of textbooks.

6. Full privatization of the coal industry.

7. Cancel VAT exemption for rural areas. Cancel moratorium on the sale of agricultural land.

8. Setting the maximum payment for sick leave - 70% of salary, paying b / l from the third day of illness.

9. Reducing the composition of the bureaucracy, bringing the number of ministries to 14.

10. Restriction of salaries of state officials.


If the last couple of points hardly anyone, except the state officials themselves, would cause criticism, then all the other points are more like a financial dictate, to tighten the belts around your neck ... Although we should not forget that we are still talking about a loan , and not about the gift, but only in how to arrange state credit bondage and the IMF, and even more so his puppeteers in Washington are well aware - it has been worked out in practice more than once. Does something in the IMF Russia decide with their 2,7% of votes? - the question is rather rhetorical ...

"Help" on its own terms, Ukraine offers not only the IMF, but also gentlemen from the European Parliament. For example, MEP Elmar Brock promises that the EU will allocate as much 20 billion euros to Kiev if that (Kiev) presents an economic “development plan” based on tariff increases for enterprises and the population. Translated from the European diplomatic-economic to human, it means something like the following: present us a plan for how you are going to survive if you swallow a capsule with poison, and we laugh ...
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  1. Igor39
    Igor39 27 February 2014 07: 59
    +20
    Yatsenyuk is a political suicide! After a while, when the grub is over, this junta will also be demolished.
    1. rozowik
      rozowik 27 February 2014 08: 20
      +10
      If by this time the country doesn’t fall apart ... Although I think that on the one hand it’s all rather good, the sooner they will crawl to Russia on their knees and with tears.
      1. domokl
        domokl 27 February 2014 08: 56
        +14
        And on the nose March ... Hmm ... Spring is kind of like. And they didn’t give a salary, pensions too ... And the grass will be too small for a month for food ... That's all good for the new government, except for it, like him. . People ... There is for some reason wants to ...
        1. Simon
          Simon 27 February 2014 09: 20
          +4
          When it becomes cold and hungry they become silky, For bacon and State Depot buns it is possible to arrange Maidan.
          1. domokl
            domokl 27 February 2014 09: 41
            +2
            Quote: Simon
            When it's cold and hungry they are silky

            Alas, Ukraine does not provide itself with bacon for a long time ... They’re buying in Poland ... So we won’t see them for a long time silky ..
        2. Kuvabatake
          Kuvabatake 27 February 2014 11: 20
          +1
          There is a braid on wires ... winked
          1. Arberes
            Arberes 28 February 2014 11: 10
            +2
            Quote: Kuvabatake
            There is a braid on the wires.


            SUICIDE!

            Is the EU a little cunning?
            Waiting for an Independent, loan bondage!
            What would Europe be generous to you?
            We'll have to tighten our belts!

            Everything will be noble, decorous, clever!
            West will help, give only the term!
            A rope will be thrown around your neck!
            And the stool will be removed from under your feet !!!

            West for this loan will make Ukraine cough up blood! This is not to deal with Russia!
        3. chunga-changa
          chunga-changa 27 February 2014 12: 44
          +4
          In Ukraine, stocks are just for a month, and there are your favorite dandelion salad and nettle borsch. This summer, extremely slender and accommodating girls from Ukraine on all highways of the country.
          1. Lesnik
            Lesnik 28 February 2014 02: 26
            0
            Quote: chunga-changa
            In Ukraine, stocks are just for a month, and there are your favorite dandelion salad and nettle borsch. This summer, extremely slender and accommodating girls from Ukraine on all highways of the country.


            You freak letter WE
      2. Zordan
        Zordan 27 February 2014 19: 19
        +7
        The most important joke of the entire state of Ukraine is that no matter which politician is in power, the cause of all the troubles is always the same, in their opinion it is Moscow!
        And there they run the first thing money beg.
      3. kot11180
        kot11180 27 February 2014 20: 28
        +3
        Dear, forget about ordinary people and what it will be like. I have two children and I imagined what it would be like if they didn’t get their salaries now and what’s more general darkness, what to feed the children ?! I feel terribly, because the sex of Ukraine is OUR.
    2. Canep
      Canep 27 February 2014 08: 37
      +13
      Quote: Igor39
      Yatsenyuk is a political suicide!
      Let now drive the armed banderlog back home. I think he will have to do it personally. Since the police spat upon him, he will not want to do this.
      Ministry of Finance (ministries, excuse me, what? ..) Yuri Kolobov and his colleagues considered that the treasury would need no less than 35 billion dollars in the coming years.
      Ministry of Debt and Loan Accumulation laughing laughing Stupidly folded 15 lard promised by Russia and 20 - Europe.
      1. Raising the retirement age by three years for women and two - for men. Elimination of the rule of accrual of double experience when working in hazardous enterprises.

      2. Establishment of the retirement age for army officers at the level of 60 years. Refusal to pay retirement benefits to scientists, employees of state enterprises and other categories of citizens.

      3. An increase in electricity prices for the final consumer over the next year by 40%. A 50% increase in gas prices for municipal enterprises and almost double for individuals. Increase in excise taxes on gasoline.

      4. Deciding on a 50% increase in transport tax. Freezing the cost of living. Seize the opportunity exclusively for targeted subsidies.

      5. The abolition of state support in the organization of school meals, the acquisition of textbooks.

      6. Complete privatization of the coal industry.

      7. The abolition of VAT benefits for rural areas. The lifting of the moratorium on the sale of agricultural land.

      8. Establishing the maximum payment plan for sick leave - 70% of the salary, paying b / l from the third day of illness.

      9. Reducing the composition of the bureaucracy, bringing the number of ministries to 14.

      10. Restrictions on wages of government officials.

      Only the last two points will be perceived positively, and the second point will lead to the complete collapse of the army. I can not imagine a contractor at the age of 59 years. Although he saw the senior ensign at the age of 53, he was driven by his grandfather, the head of the arms depot.
      1. v53993
        v53993 27 February 2014 08: 55
        +6
        The Ministry of Debt and Credit Promises laughing, Stupidly folded 15 lards promised by Russia and 20 by Europe

        The most amazing thing is that they stacked correctly. Or did you guess it?
        1. domokl
          domokl 27 February 2014 09: 00
          +6
          Quote: v53993
          The most amazing thing is that they stacked correctly.

          Who needs a cultivator now? The revolutionaries pulled out computers, but this trash remained ... But he is also Japanese-Chinese. And that means he knows arithmetic laughing
          True, in other sources there plus and a debt for gas-36 and 6 billion. Directly the body temperature of a person ...
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 27 February 2014 09: 05
            +12
            Western Ukraine mainly lives in rural areas - "on the grass". incl. by and large, these points are not terrible for the Banderaites, but for the southeast, it is like death ...
            1. domokl
              domokl 27 February 2014 09: 45
              +9
              Quote: Boris55
              Western Ukraine mainly lives in rural areas - "grazing"

              In the same way, when the Bulgarians reasoned ... They fed a third of the world with vegetables and fruits ... And now they are buying not Bulgarian pepper, but Dutch ... So, my grandmother said for two ..
              1. Egoza
                Egoza 27 February 2014 10: 41
                +4
                Quote: domokl
                In the same way, when the Bulgarians reasoned.

                Alexander! Bulgarians joined the EU and received "quotas". But in this case, ZU will really hold out better on "grazing", even teachers and doctors, but workers (pensioners, veterans ...) in the East and South - no! here they mainly live on wageshi
              2. datur
                datur 27 February 2014 22: 16
                0
                [quote = domokl] [quote = Boris55] Western Ukraine mainly lives in rural areas - "on the grass" [/ quote]
                In the same way, when the Bulgarians reasoned ... They fed a third of the world with vegetables and fruits ... And now they themselves buy not Bulgarian pepper, but Dutch ...---- MDA is just not Dutch, but strange! Israeli !! yes just looked at the store today !!! yes
          2. baltika-18
            baltika-18 27 February 2014 09: 41
            +1
            Quote: domokl
            True, in other sources there plus and a debt for gas-36 and 6 billion. Directly the body temperature of a person ...

            The debt for gas today is 1,6 billion dollars.
            But according to today's reports, ours have announced that they are going to invest $ 5 billion in Crimea. For the Crimea, in my opinion, is the price not so high?
            Are zones of influence denoting slowly? Banderlog now probably everyone will have money with giblets (Russia, the States, Europe, China).
            1. domokl
              domokl 27 February 2014 09: 51
              +6
              Quote: baltika-18
              Banderlog now probably will be bought with giblets all who have money (Russia, the States, Europe, China).


              Naturally. Why shoot, why risk a face, when you can buy with a mirror or an empty tin can.
              That’s why Putin allocated a loan to Ukraine before the coup. Everyone knew perfectly well what would happen. Besides, probably, the Ukrainians themselves.
            2. antiaircrafter
              antiaircrafter 27 February 2014 10: 14
              +1
              Quote: baltika-18
              ours announced that they are going to invest 5 billion dollars in Crimea.

              Announce announced, only investors are not found.
              And they won’t find it until there is a mess.
            3. Ascetic
              Ascetic 27 February 2014 13: 37
              +6
              Quote: baltika-18
              But according to today's reports, ours have announced that they are going to invest $ 5 billion in Crimea. For the Crimea, in my opinion, is the price not so high?


              Most likely, Putin promised not to rush to withdraw our money from Eurobonds, most likely in exchange for Ukraine. Europe has no money. Since December, China has been strenuously withdrawing money from the United States. Today we will listen to the report of the head of the Federal Reserve to Congress. In Europe, it has already reached the point of seizing "their" shadow money.
              Europe adopts law on freezing and confiscation of criminal proceeds
              Candy-marmalade oligarch Poroshenko, the main sponsor of the Maidan, is slowly moving its factories from Ukraine to Russia.
              This was stated by political analyst Yuri Vinokurov, writes ForUm.

              “For example, the Roshen confectionery in Mariupol is at the closing stage, despite numerous statements by Poroshenko himself and his press service that this is not true. Significant reductions have also taken place at the Vinnitsa enterprises of the corporation, ”the expert recalls.

              At the same time, the political scientist draws attention to the fact that Poroshenko intends to double the capacity of two Roshen plants in Russia by 2015.

              In his opinion, this circumstance indicates an attempt by a businessman to withdraw his capital to a neighboring state.

              “In other words, Poroshenko actually takes production assets to Russia - contrary to his loud statements that he is ready to pay a profit for European integration,” Vinokurov stated.

              Poroshenko withdraws its capital to Russia
              Now a very large number of serious people can stupidly fall into grandmothers (speaking the only language they can understand on both banks of the Dnieper), money will be given only under direct guarantees and obligations of full external management of the IMF’s Western financial structures, Xitati has already announced this, and therefore fraud by geshefters with loans as it was in Russia will not be allowed. Do not forget that Russia still controls about half of the Ukrainian eurofantics, even if they have not yet invested in them real content on the Irish stock exchange. And the second half also belongs to someone, some non-residents. And this someone really does not want to see instead of money just multi-colored pieces of paper. By the way, Russia has already subtly hinted that it could sell its papers, spitting on money, but finally burying other people's investments.
              So everything is going according to plan, therefore Putin is silent, unobtrusively warning NATO partners asymmetrical teachings CVO and ZVO seem to be in no way bordering Ukraine on sharp force steps. The logic of what is happening increasingly convinces us that everything is going as it should, according to the plan and not only the Western plan is thought.
              1. baltika-18
                baltika-18 27 February 2014 14: 52
                0
                Quote: Ascetic
                The logic of what is happening increasingly convinces us that everything is going as it should, according to the plan and as it is thought not only to the Western plan.

                Here I can’t quite agree. We are looking at the structure of Ukraine’s external debt by holders.
              2. baltika-18
                baltika-18 27 February 2014 14: 58
                0
                Now let's see what this table would look like if 15 billion eurobonds had passed.
                Clearly, I think it’s not necessary to explain why the Irish stock exchange crashed at the beginning of last week. It was precisely as a result of this that Yanukovych was blown away, moreover, sharply.
        2. rozowik
          rozowik 27 February 2014 09: 12
          +4
          So the calculator in every phone has something to strain laughing
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 27 February 2014 09: 31
            +2
            Quote: rozowik
            So the calculator in every phone has something to strain

            That's it! And "Pan" Briginets thinks so! "" This is an exceptional non-standard personality. Let's listen to his interview, gentlemen. " The new government is not going to pay off old debts? - No. The question of how to pay is to Yanukovych. Of course, all debts will be returned, and Russia will return the debts to us. We know that the very "zero option" that Russia is so bragging about was not signed by Ukraine. And today questions of financial relations and sections of Soviet property will be reviewed necessarily, because the documents on the expenditure of Ukraine and Russia in the USSR have not been signed. The entire economic component of the relationship, including what was before, will be reviewed. And of course, in this context, there will be a recalculation of who owes whom how much, who has what property. This will definitely happen at some point. I really hope that everyone will have enough patience and courage to sit down and calmly figure it out, objectively, and not politically, in relations between Ukraine and Russia "
            This is a Ukrainian classic, Panova, which I have heard for 25 years. And it all started with the Polubotka hoard in the Bank of England. It turns out that Ukraine did not sign anything and actually owes nothing to anyone. Fast forward to 2005-10 and remember how these games ended with the revision of agreements with the Russian Federation on gas and cooperation in the economy for the country and President Yushchenko. "
            And tonight, a commission consisting of Lutsenko, Shkiryak and another TV star from Channel 5, of course, Victoria Syumar, is engaged in a serious matter - they are filtering candidates for ministerial portfolios according to the Maidan criteria. These criteria, in fact, have not been worked out, so that the discussion is proceeding according to the parameters - "your own to your own in your own way." According to Lutsenko, there is a general solution that the government’s responsibility will be limited to the financial and economic bloc, while the remaining ministries of the social and humanitarian sphere will be open to representatives of the public sector. In general, it is clear that the country is lidded; it is a successful new democratic policy to appoint ministers of economy and finance based on criteria of loyalty to the Maidan. "We have time before lunch to form the list," Lutsenko said.
            Source: http://polemika.com.ua/article-139922.html
            1. rozowik
              rozowik 27 February 2014 09: 42
              +4
              Well, let them rewrite, I wonder how they will share common debts? So I want to look at this circus, otherwise we’re following in the footsteps of the Baltic states: you occupied us, you didn’t give us freedom, we took away the latter, NOW WE WANT A BOB!
              Zadolbali.
            2. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 27 February 2014 10: 01
              0
              Quote: Egoza
              And today the issues of financial relations and the division of Soviet property will be necessarily revised, because the documents on the expenditure of Ukraine and Russia in the USSR have not been signed. The entire economic component of relations will be revised, including what was before. And of course, in this context, there will be a recalculation of who owes whom how much, who has what property. This will definitely happen at some point. I really hope that everyone will have enough patience and courage to sit down and calmly figure it out, objectively, and not politically, in relations between Ukraine and Russia "

              and what? great idea!
              Well this is how much dill we should then remain?

              already breathtaking from such prospects laughing wassat
            3. Landwarrior
              Landwarrior 27 February 2014 15: 23
              +1
              Quote: Egoza
              “The new government is not going to pay off the old debts?” “No.

              I hope he had enough brains to give out this phrase only for domestic consumption? belay
              Otherwise, you can immediately draw a cross on a loan application. fool
              After all, what is it that turns out – scored loans –– coup –– non – repayment –– –– –– –– –– –– –– –– ––––––––––– laughing A one-of-a-kind signal "Guys, we will come to you to eat! Only have time to put cast iron on the table!" laughing
              So the Chinese are not in vain bully
            4. T-73
              T-73 27 February 2014 17: 59
              +2
              Quote: Egoza
              issues of financial relations and sections of Soviet property will be reviewed necessarily, because the documents on the expenditure of Ukraine and Russia in the USSR are not signed

              Let them look for "acquired by overwork" in the Baltics (factories for the production of still Soviet sprats and RAFs), in Turkmenistan, Georgia (there necessarily) and other former Soviet republics. No one wants to remember how Russia extinguished debts alone for the USSR, but how to remember and share the "Soviet legacy" - the face will not crack. It will crack. You signed there, no, legally - no digging.
              Quote: Egoza
              The entire economic component of the relationship will be reviewed, including what it was before.

              Let them dare and revise. Can they become smarter?
        3. Kuvabatake
          Kuvabatake 27 February 2014 11: 22
          +1
          No, someone who stole a calculator somewhere, that's it. laughing
    3. Flooding
      Flooding 27 February 2014 12: 05
      +2
      Quote: Igor39
      Yatsenyuk is a political suicide

      I am ready to argue with you. You cannot imagine how long a politician can stay afloat in a state with a vector for "European integration". chewing endless snot about democratic values ​​and getting the boast of European emissaries because they say the country is moving in the right direction.
    4. _Forgiven_
      _Forgiven_ 27 February 2014 12: 13
      +14
      Yaytsenyuk is a two-faced scum. Then he shouted to Yulka to plant, and when Madame came out of the "sanatorium", he immediately began to jump with a carrot in his teeth and chant: "Yulenka, Yulenka." And the new "authorities" don't care about the people either. You will see, they will still fight for portfolios. Only then will the South-East of Ukraine not stand without salaries and benefits and will arrange such a Maidan that the current one will nervously smoke on the sidelines and fearfully glance towards Poland in search of knights in white armor from the European Union. I myself will be happy to sign up for the southeastern front and go shoot scum. I will try to finish what the guys from "Berkut" were not allowed to do
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 27 February 2014 17: 11
        +1
        For good reason! I respect, the main thing is that words are supported by deeds! sad
    5. APASUS
      APASUS 27 February 2014 22: 21
      +1
      Quote: Igor39
      Yatsenyuk is a political suicide! After a while, when the grub is over, this junta will also be demolished.

      Wait now when the treasury is empty and you have to work a lot and for free, officials will slowly give up their seats. Centenaries from the Maidan like Sasha Bunker will come to power. Then you will understand what a political suicide is!
  2. nemec55
    nemec55 27 February 2014 08: 03
    +7
    that the treasury in the coming years will need no less than 35 billion dollars

    With this question, please contact the Fuhrer Merkel
    1. Simon
      Simon 27 February 2014 09: 27
      +6
      Merkel only promises 1 billion. And Russia, I think it’s necessary to wait a bit, there’s nothing to feed the Nazis, all the same, they will squander the whole tranche and pull it into their pockets, and then think about it — they will give it back, they will not give it away and in 10-20 years they will forgive it, like some countries. hi
    2. datur
      datur 27 February 2014 23: 38
      0
      [quote = nemec55] [quote] that the treasury in the coming years will need no less than 35 billion dollars [/ quote]
      With this question, please contact the Fuhrer Merkel ----- or the Partagenossa Obama in Fashington !!! yes
  3. Sultan
    Sultan 27 February 2014 08: 04
    +5
    They are all already walking zombies ...
  4. Lantau
    Lantau 27 February 2014 08: 14
    +8
    I read the paragraphs of the IMF requirements. Cool. And to us here Bandera broadcast that they will have everything in openwork. And Russia is likely to increase the price of gas, and there, customs duties may increase (if they sign the association). What people think about is incomprehensible.
    1. Igor39
      Igor39 27 February 2014 08: 30
      +12
      Cheek brings success!
      Yeah, stupid IMF loans ...
      1. largus886
        largus886 27 February 2014 08: 50
        +10
        All this we already went through in the 90s. But there is no and no foreseeable leader in Ukraine, Bloody Putin, able to gather a country!
        1. Ascetic
          Ascetic 27 February 2014 13: 02
          +1
          Quote: largus886
          All this we already went through in the 90s. But there is no and no foreseeable leader in Ukraine, Bloody Putin, able to gather a country!


          In the event of a default, the hryvnia will be the same as with the Russian ruble after the financial collapse of 98. That is, a sharp depreciation and fall of quotations against other currencies. Russia was saved by the Primakov government and Putin's rise to power as a result of the "soft" coup d'etat in 1999. What actually saved the country from collapse.
          1. baltika-18
            baltika-18 27 February 2014 15: 17
            +2
            Quote: Ascetic
            In the event of a default, the hryvnia will be the same as with the Russian ruble after the financial collapse of 98. That is, a sharp depreciation and fall of quotations against other currencies. Russia was saved by the Primakov government and Putin's rise to power as a result of the "soft" coup d'etat in 1999. What actually saved the country from collapse.

            It’s also that Russia has oil and gas. You don’t have to discount it. There would be no resources, Putin would not have helped.
      2. skullcap
        skullcap 27 February 2014 13: 21
        +3
        Quote: Igor39
        The courage of the city takes! Aha, and stupidity loans from the IMF ...

        That's right.
        I go somehow in the stall. And then some Armenian on the mobile talks, not really embarrassed and in full voice.
        His words bumped into the memory: “What credit? .. What are you? .. Credit is the worst thing that can be!”
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    2. ZU-23
      ZU-23 27 February 2014 08: 48
      +8
      So, in general, the country is poured into the impudent, and they are standing on the Maidan and slamming them, can it be that Ukraine has fallen at the expense of sensible people, although even here at the forum I remember the European integrators which are now inaudible.
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    4. v53993
      v53993 27 February 2014 09: 00
      +11
      We here Bandera broadcast that they will have everything in openwork. And Russia is likely to increase the price of gas, and there, customs duties may increase (if they sign the association). What people think about is incomprehensible.

      It’s time to wonder not what they think, but what they think.
    5. antiaircrafter
      antiaircrafter 27 February 2014 10: 20
      +2
      Quote: Lantau
      And Russia is likely to raise the price of gas

      Or maybe he will refuse to trade at all, or he will demand a denyuzhu forward, according to the classic: in the morning money - in the evening gas.
      1. Andrey57
        Andrey57 27 February 2014 14: 49
        +3
        Or maybe he will refuse to trade at all, or he will demand a denyuzhu forward, according to the classic: in the morning money - in the evening gas.


        Thus, already in Geyrop, interest in the South Stream increased sharply and a number of bureaucratic problems were "urgently" resolved, and Bulgaria urgently agreed on the offshore section of the pipeline, Austria intended to return to this project fellow
    6. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 27 February 2014 10: 20
      0
      Quote: Lantau
      What do people think

      I would start to think in their place what to do if we withdraw our signature from the Treaty of Friendship ...
      1. Lantau
        Lantau 27 February 2014 14: 53
        0
        if we withdraw our signature from the Friendship Agreement ...

        I ask this with interest - are there any prerequisites for this?
        If so, then it will be bad for them, in every sense.
  5. P12P
    P12P 27 February 2014 08: 28
    +12
    fulfill the IMF requirements, become poor and blame Russians and Russia for everything
    1. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 27 February 2014 10: 25
      +7
      Quote: P12P
      fulfill the IMF requirements, become poor and blame Russians and Russia for everything

      they will not fulfill, they will also blame ...

      a hotel building belonging to Lithuanian businessmen collapsed in Georgia, built by the Turks with the money of Polish investors according to a project of American architects ...
      Russia was unanimously found guilty of this incident ...
    2. Platov
      Platov 27 February 2014 15: 19
      +1
      Their understanding is correct, as it was recorded at the dill level that the Russians would provide them with freebies, bread and a sight.
    3. Zordan
      Zordan 27 February 2014 19: 17
      +1
      Love it!
      Moscow is constantly to blame there in Ukraine!
  6. Flinky
    Flinky 27 February 2014 08: 30
    +10
    Ah, there was money for the revolution, but now it suddenly abruptly ended?
    1. largus886
      largus886 27 February 2014 08: 54
      +4
      Well, do not build to destroy, there is no big mind.
    2. Simon
      Simon 27 February 2014 09: 32
      +1
      So the USA and Europe gave the revolution, and when they did, it all worked out and they don’t give how much parasites can be fed. Now let them spin.
    3. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 27 February 2014 10: 25
      +1
      Quote: Flinky
      are over?

      Well, half was definitely taken back, and so everyone worked to the cent, even should have remained wassat
  7. Strashila
    Strashila 27 February 2014 08: 30
    +9
    The economics of war ... across Russia 24 an analytics of the economics of events in Ukraine was heard ... Russian investors will lose order !!! 28 billion dollars !!!, banks ... enterprises ... entrepreneurs, what other loans can be discussed ???
    1. Simon
      Simon 27 February 2014 09: 35
      +5
      Also, China requested a penalty for not delivered grain of about 4 yards. Here is an autonomous mess! lol
      1. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 27 February 2014 10: 26
        0
        Quote: Simon
        Also, China requested a penalty for not delivered grain around 4 yards.

        we will submit the following to arbitration ... figs to them, and not gas to hang ...
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 27 February 2014 10: 46
          +4
          Quote: DanaF1
          we will submit the following to arbitration ... figs to them, and not gas to hang ...


          Briginets: Only cowardly repay debts

          About conscience, decency and honesty, this "glorious representative of the new power" has no idea !!! Let him try to tell China like thislaughing
          1. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 27 February 2014 12: 01
            +1
            Quote: Egoza
            Only cowardly repay debts

            they are not only cowardly, but also stupid ...
            they will declare to China ...

            stocking up with popcorn ...
          2. Skif
            Skif 27 February 2014 16: 29
            +3
            China remained in the ranks of the leading world powers only because their "Maidan" and the leaders of their "perestroika" were rolled out by tanks on Tiananmen Square in Beijing, and they wanted to spit on the opinion of the United States
      2. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 27 February 2014 10: 32
        +1
        Quote: Simon
        Here is an autonomous mess!

        Bad laugh stop money is already bye bye, and who will work out their relatives ??? ... of course the people, in particular the industrial sector, that is, all those who disagree with the current government.
  8. largus886
    largus886 27 February 2014 08: 40
    +9
    To nationalize the assets of the oligarchs, of course, the idea is fresh, it would be interesting to see how and who in Ukraine can do this. That will throw off reptiles oligarchs of Milenos, one hundred will hire an army or rent a Ukrainian one and disperse the revolutionaries to hell
  9. Name
    Name 27 February 2014 08: 49
    +10
    Greetings to all! And what we (they) have in common ... To get any money, the newly appointed cabinet will have to take oh unpopular measures, and in the very near future, because the right-wingers are not going to leave the streets. With Russia, it’s also not easy if Yatsenyuk says:“We are sure that Russia is not a neighbor, but a partner” agree sound at least strange. Yes, and does the Kremlin recognize the Cabinet as legitimate the Maidan-grandmother in two said ... So there is an equation with many unknowns, and there simply is no solution ...In short, I washed the rope Yatsenyuk, kirdyk to you.
    1. v53993
      v53993 27 February 2014 09: 12
      +3
      In short, I washed the rope Yatsenyuk, kirdyk to you.

      What a fierce Imerik you are. Could-and Vaseline Jacek offer, though he, though, but God's. Maybe he wants to get European pleasure in the end.
      1. antiaircrafter
        antiaircrafter 27 February 2014 10: 30
        +4
        Quote: v53993
        Could-and Vaseline Jacek offer,

        A solidol on the Coke will cost.
    2. Simon
      Simon 27 February 2014 09: 38
      +3
      So this is not only him, but also to all his minions. laughing
      1. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 27 February 2014 10: 34
        +2
        Quote: Simon
        So this is not only him, but also to all his minions.

        Will give everyone more carrots with the words: do we have self-service?
  10. Horst78
    Horst78 27 February 2014 08: 53
    +7
    Others (for example, Polish "friends" in the person of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, who often looked at the Maidan himself) said that capital belonging to the "former" authorities could help Ukraine. The chief Polish diplomat Radoslav Sikorski, in particular, noted:

    It seems to me that, since the Ukrainian parliament nationalized this disgusting Yanukovych villa, he should take a closer look at other assets of the ruling elite. This should also be a source of support for reforms in Ukraine.

    A huge responsibility lies with some EU member states, whom we have been persuading for weeks to do something with this property, which everyone knows are stored in Western accounts.
    Where has it already been? what Ah, in Libya. Well, how much money did Gaddafi get Libya? Something about zero.
  11. Klim2011
    Klim2011 27 February 2014 08: 56
    +6
    Yatsenyuk has already announced that the newly formed government will be a "kamikaze government". You will not deny him quick wits wink
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  13. Vityok
    Vityok 27 February 2014 08: 58
    +5
    All this resembles February 1917, and then October came!
  14. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 27 February 2014 09: 02
    +17
    Ukraine refused our money and no one pulled its tongue. The leadership of Russia should respect the desire of Ukraine to be independent and no longer humiliate the offer of financial assistance. The money will come in handy for us after Serdyukov’s restoration of the army.
  15. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 27 February 2014 09: 14
    +6
    from the Don.
    I think this is not the last Maidan!
  16. 1c-inform-city
    1c-inform-city 27 February 2014 09: 18
    +2
    China has already filed a lawsuit in arbitration over a debt of $ 3 lard, according to which Ukraine not only did not repay interest, but the debt itself disappeared.
    1. v53993
      v53993 27 February 2014 09: 51
      +2
      China has already filed a lawsuit in arbitration over a debt of $ 3 lard, according to which Ukraine not only did not repay interest, but the debt itself disappeared.

      So they also threw China? Well then, I don’t envy them at all. I even feel a little sorry for them.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 27 February 2014 11: 02
        +1
        Quote: v53993
        So they also threw China?

        We had to deliver grain and other products, because everything was covered with a copper basin because of the Maidan !!! Who will fulfill the obligations there when the REVOLUTION !!!
        By the way, the contracts provide for force majeure. But after all, not only the injured party can use it ... This is me about Russia. Like "You have a revolution, force majeure, we are not supplying anything yet!" It will be very correct!
  17. T-73
    T-73 27 February 2014 09: 26
    +1
    By agreeing to the terms of the IMF, Ukraine will sign a sentence and will acquire the status of a colony in 5-7 years. Even with the naked eye you can see where the blows of the requirements points are directed. Education, science, the collapse of the public sector in the economy, including personnel, the elimination of agriculture and technologically intensive enterprises (including those with dangerous production cycles), the decline in the standard of living of the population (there is generally a wide field for striking at it from different angles) and how the consequence of bringing it to a lively position. And do not dare to raise your head - you must (the West) and your children must already be grandchildren. Eternal debtors and tramps. That's who I saw yesterday on the so-called People’s party when I watched life on Euronews. Gopniki on the stage offer stupidly last names, three in camouflage in front of her shout something and wave their hands, apparently activists from the gopniks, and the crowd near and behind is also buzzing. How to choose and did not understand. Surnames said and the type chosen by the national council? And at the same time, an actor will be elected minister of culture, who stood on the stage and read the names on a piece of paper? Yes ... If I worked in the State Department, then seeing this show - I would have fun and drank champagne: but things are going really well! Still, jokes about the herd would go.
  18. paul72
    paul72 27 February 2014 09: 31
    -1
    the saddest thing is that Comrade Ayfonya babbles something about legally binding agreements (like they promised 15 lard, so it's worthless to refuse your words)
    will they throw this money to banderlogs?
    I hope it’s not enough to give the mind.
    The outskirts, by the way, were the only republics of the former USSR that did not sign the "zero" option, according to which Russia becomes the owner of the USSR's property abroad in exchange for the payment of union debts.
    1. T-73
      T-73 27 February 2014 09: 47
      +1
      Quote: paul72
      IPhone babbles something about legally binding agreements (like they promised 15 lard, so it's worthless to refuse your words)

      As far as I know, there are no legal obligations. Let the iPhone not ... t. But you can’t sew words to action. So what of what they promised? Lawyer fuck ... in
    2. Danafxnumx
      Danafxnumx 27 February 2014 10: 31
      0
      Quote: paul72
      the saddest thing is that Comrade Ayphony babbles something about legally binding agreements

      Medvedev didn’t say anything like that ...
      he just said that now there is no one to negotiate with and that we must wait for what will happen and which government will be formed ...
      Naturally, like any politician, he said it more mildly than: "ukriya, went to ..."
  19. T-73
    T-73 27 February 2014 09: 34
    +5
    And Kiev is unlikely to receive money. The EU does not have so much, they are shocked themselves that the first 20 billion. Ukraine asked for this only this year. They are shocked by such appetites. States - only crumbs will give from the IMF table. Russia must think to breed itself will not give. Payment on Ukrainian Eurobonds in June, it will be seen there how the new government will give them. But the final (so far the final, of course) amount of 35 billion will quickly go on the mend. The discount on gas is likely to disappear (and why should it be now?). And if they refuse to pay for the delivered gas, as they have already promised, then the question of a civilized dialogue (if it ever was) with Kiev can be considered closed. But we have the South Stream on the way (and how on time ...). Jokes with China are also bad - a lawsuit for 3 billion is not a joke. So what the guys are counting on is not clear. Turchinov yesterday, by the way, stood behind him and didn’t climb into the government, it’s much smarter to see many people there. Having promised to provide the country with the best government in the world, he neatly leaked this responsibility at the veche. And going to the presidency he is well aware that the government will not tear the hungry ones.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 27 February 2014 09: 40
      +4
      Quote: T-73
      And Kiev is unlikely to receive money.

      They first of all only now understood WHO they released from the bottle !!!
      EU will not provide Ukraine with material assistance if radicals come to power in it - German MP
      On Thursday, the European Parliament will adopt a resolution on Ukraine, which may include recommendations on the provision of financial assistance to Kiev. What complicates the adoption of such a decision, said the head of the parliamentary cooperation committee of the EU - Russia, German MP Knut Fleckenstein.
      “Consolidation of the budget alone will not do, it requires a long process of modernizing the economy, creating jobs and encouraging innovation. We are not making demands on Ukraine that would not be imposed on borrowers within the European Union,” says the head of the committee. Noting the participation of radicals in the social and political life of Ukraine, Fleckenstein said that the European Union does not support forces like the Right Sector.
      “As a MEP from Germany, I feel a special responsibility to prevent right-wing extremist parties from coming to power. If radical forces enter into it, it will be difficult for the government coalition to gain the trust of international partners, which is necessary to receive financial assistance. the case may arise not only with Russia, but also with the European Union, "the MEP summed up.
      Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139911.html
      XXXX
      Yeah! Yeah! But the Maidan sent Yarosh to the NSDC! laughing
  20. from punk
    from punk 27 February 2014 09: 36
    +1
    when a Jew was born cried
  21. v53993
    v53993 27 February 2014 09: 40
    +5
    He looked, just in case, on online TV from the Maidan. They (maydanutye) are still there. I thought they were putting things in order, after observing I realized that I was hopelessly mistaken. Most likely, these were professional revolutionaries, or at least their duty detachment, which targets the goals and results of the revolution, and most importantly the process. I suppose that they will sit still until they have finished eating a free-on box of cookies and a barrel of jam (most likely expired).
  22. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 27 February 2014 09: 44
    +2
    and in addition to the sheep in the government, they will have someone else. 80 billion should + 35 billion will be taken, it will be necessary to give it, but to give it with fat and fat is imported
  23. inkass_98
    inkass_98 27 February 2014 09: 46
    +7
    Some of you are all incredulous ... And I believe that abroad will help them! laughing Want an example? Please, "I have them" (C): Tymoshenko visited the American embassy and ... got on her feet !!! Hallelujah, it happened !!! So the Ukrainian economy will get on its feet when the Messiah - Obama comes to them !!! good
    True, I expected that the girl would still ride her wagon, drive her to Germany, and then she would throw away crutches (it would be better to hoofs). Apparently, it was already impossible to knock out a tear from colleagues in the workshop, I had to immediately run for directions and instructions.
  24. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 27 February 2014 09: 49
    +1
    Quote: largus886
    All this we already went through in the 90s. But there is no and no foreseeable leader in Ukraine, Bloody Putin, able to gather a country!

    Of course, we can not delegate Comrade Lukashenka, he will promptly bring "good things" there. They have no other options.
    1. largus886
      largus886 27 February 2014 10: 18
      0
      What you are not humane!
    2. Platov
      Platov 27 February 2014 15: 33
      +1
      "Of course, we cannot delegate comrade Lukashenko, he will promptly bring good luck there. They have no other options." , and to whom will he leave the Belarusians to Yanukovych?
  25. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 27 February 2014 09: 52
    +1
    Quote: inkass_98
    Some of you are all incredulous ... And I believe that abroad will help them! laughing Want an example? Please, "I have them" (C): Tymoshenko visited the American embassy and ... got on her feet !!! Hallelujah, it happened !!! So the Ukrainian economy will get on its feet when the Messiah - Obama comes to them !!! good
    True, I expected that the girl would still ride her wagon, drive her to Germany, and then she would throw away crutches (it would be better to hoofs). Apparently, it was already impossible to knock out a tear from colleagues in the workshop, I had to immediately run for directions and instructions.

    so who is waiting for her in Ukraine, they made a revolution, and there will be a little froth. Do not tell the people her now will not let go
    1. largus886
      largus886 27 February 2014 10: 22
      +1
      Her legs seem to be bad, but her head is just very good. She didn’t throw herself under the tank, saying that she was sick, she decided to sit out in a German trench.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 27 February 2014 10: 57
        0
        Quote: largus886
        decided to sit out in a German trench.

        And already from there she announced that she would run for president !!! laughing
  26. Altona
    Altona 27 February 2014 09: 53
    +3
    After the Ukrainian “rulers” began to practice calculating the amount of funds needed for the Ukrainian economy, “friends of Ukraine” from among Western politicians began to think about “finding reserves” - though, for the most part, on the side. They poked a finger at Russia - supposedly, Moscow could have billions ... thrown to “free Ukraine”.
    --------------------
    I advise you to play that fat, sho we are not zilya writing 1992 rock... Surely more than one roll has been wound in over 20 years ...
  27. platitsyn70
    platitsyn70 27 February 2014 10: 01
    +4
    Quote: Flinky
    Ah, there was money for the revolution, but now it suddenly abruptly ended?

    it is not the state that gives the revolution, but the Sorsa funds and others, and has worked out so far, but the IMF gives at interest and they will have to be given back. "to sell anything unnecessary, you have to buy something unnecessary, but we have no money"
  28. Russlana
    Russlana 27 February 2014 11: 07
    +1
    It is strange that no one remembered how, in the center of Kiev, the possessed ones cut down a worship cross in front of journalists. What they wanted, they got it.
  29. ed65b
    ed65b 27 February 2014 11: 11
    +3
    In general, I don’t mind that Ukraine and Europe will be thrown a loop around the neck of Ukraine and crush it harder. It’s not the first time Ukraine has come out of the Maidan; the authorities will change again; then everything can change. They must go to the extreme line beyond which death. Then sobriety in thoughts appears and blinkers from the eyes fall. let them go there.
  30. Name
    Name 27 February 2014 11: 23
    +1
    Quote: ed65b
    throws Ukraine Europe and the United States a noose around the neck and crush it harder

    So already ...:The United States has not yet decided on the provision of credit guarantees to Ukraine

    This was stated by the official representative of the State Department, Jen Psaki, ITAR-TASS reports.
    “The United States continues to consider a number of options, including (providing) credit guarantees to provide economic assistance to Ukraine,” she said. “However, no decision has yet been taken, and the next step is the formation of a multi-party, technical government.” Recall earlier, US Secretary of State John Kerry said that Washington plans to provide Kiev with loan guarantees in the amount of 1 billion dollars, and also consider the possibility of providing other types of direct financial assistance to Kiev. According to him, the parameters of additional assistance in excess of the specified amount will be agreed with the US Congress. Kerry also mentioned that the EU should also allocate about 1,5 billion dollars, not counting loans from international financial organizations.
    - and now Kabmaydaunov licked and wiped himself, scam begins.
    see http: //comments.ua/world/454773-ssha-prinyali-resheniya-videlenii.html
  31. Gagarin
    Gagarin 27 February 2014 11: 59
    +8
    An amazing case looms - Russia's inaction is slowly killing the power of the Maidan.
    If a miracle happens and GDP and then the West replayes, then it will be just fantastic. I want to believe it.
  32. Lom_71
    Lom_71 27 February 2014 12: 00
    +3
    A very simple way to not pay debts. There is no state. Ukraine has no debts. Conclusion residents of Ukraine accept the citizenship of the Russian Federation
  33. Gagarin
    Gagarin 27 February 2014 12: 08
    +4
    Yanukovych needs to send now to all, without exception, "rulers of Ukraine" SMS with a smiley
    Text: I know where to get the money, but until I say, I was offended .....
  34. Neophyte
    Neophyte 27 February 2014 13: 07
    +4
    You might think that the Rada did not know this fiasco of the economy in November!
    Apparently, the stupidity of hope for Western help is booming in all echelons.
    authorities, however, it is not clear - what!
  35. Burmistr
    Burmistr 27 February 2014 13: 37
    +1
    If they take a loan, and the IMF can print them, then a gang of shitheads can ruin and ruin it.
  36. sarmat-4791
    sarmat-4791 27 February 2014 13: 49
    +4
    "... present to us a plan of how you are going to survive if you swallow a capsule with poison, and we laugh ..." That's for sure!
  37. repytw
    repytw 27 February 2014 14: 55
    0
    "Now at the building of the Crimean parliament there are about a thousand protesters, reports the agency" Crimean News "and specifies that those gathered came to support the invaders of the Crimean buildings, demand the separation of Crimea from Ukraine and its entry into Russia."


    I ask who can make a topic dedicated to the events in Simferopol. That the news from Crimea would go straight to the forum, it would be contradictory and mostly Ukrainized.
  38. Pattor
    Pattor 27 February 2014 18: 02
    0
    Does the gas continue to flow? In a freebie. It’s chopped off and let them live (it’s a pity, of course, ordinary people, enterprises), but it has become fashionable not to pay debts. all this is sad.
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 27 February 2014 18: 58
      +1
      Gas cannot be cut off - the freezing Evr will yell ... oops. Well, these under the guise and will produce a selection.
  39. White53
    White53 27 February 2014 19: 08
    +1
    Do not pity Ukraine, sorry for ordinary Ukrainians !!!
    1. Riperbahn
      Riperbahn 27 February 2014 19: 19
      0
      As a state, Ukraine is not sorry. She went for a long time to this.
  40. Neophyte
    Neophyte 27 February 2014 19: 46
    +1
    No one will give money! Some EU countries have already raised a howl-rob!
    And the IMF has no money for this, it is not even considered in the draft.
    If Russia does not receive% and part of the debt for gas, then this is another point from which Yatsenik will drop points and have to give a report to Yarosh. In short, everywhere hell. The new government moves to Lviv, sets the border and sends guest workers to Europe for money.
    Well, we will accept the rest of Ukraine, as in the picture: the return of the prodigal son.
  41. Thomas
    Thomas 27 February 2014 23: 02
    0
    There’s still one thing in this that for some reason passed without much discussion, namely:
    On February 16, Barack Obama signed into law a law that raises the country's state debt border until March 2015. The state debt limit has been increased to 17,2 trillion dollars.
    It is said that all this is only to delay the time of technical default.
    So there is reason to believe that they will find money for the current Ukrainian government. But as far as they are enough, and considering who will distribute them, we can assume that this is not for long.
  42. speron
    speron 28 February 2014 00: 08
    0
    Case rubbish, yes. The requirements of the IMF for loans is still a loop. Yes, only if you recall the publications in Russia are made or offered the same pills. Increase in tariffs, retirement age, reduction of social programs, and this is not from the demand side, but from their managers
  43. vanderhaas
    vanderhaas 28 February 2014 06: 02
    0
    Quote: Thomas
    There’s still one thing in this that for some reason passed without much discussion, namely:
    On February 16, Barack Obama signed into law a law that raises the country's state debt border until March 2015. The state debt limit has been increased to 17,2 trillion dollars.
    It is said that all this is only to delay the time of technical default.
    So there is reason to believe that they will find money for the current Ukrainian government. But as far as they are enough, and considering who will distribute them, we can assume that this is not for long.

    Do not tell my shoelaces! What you mentioned is not money at all! These are simply deferred obligations to ourselves. Or are you implying that you owe it exclusively to the United States and not to private investors? With for you, they require real money!
    1. Thomas
      Thomas 28 February 2014 11: 55
      0
      vanderhaas
      These are simply deferred obligations to ourselves

      If this is just a formal operation regarding what has already been borrowed and spent, then yes. But this is also a signal for new borrowing with all the consequences for the coming months.