The construction of a new patrol ship begins

On February 26, a groundbreaking ceremony is scheduled for the lead patrol ship of the 22160 project. Construction of a new warship will be conducted at the Zelenodolsk plant them. A.M. Gorky in Tatarstan. The 22160 project, created in the Northern Design Bureau, implies the construction of a patrol ship capable of operating in a long-distance maritime zone and performing various combat missions.

In the list of tasks of the new ship in the future will include the protection of territorial waters, patrolling of economic zones in the closed and open seas, the fight against smuggling and piracy. In addition, 22160 ships can be used in search and rescue operations or in environmental monitoring. In wartime, the patrol ships of the new project will be able to protect the naval bases, the naval connections and the sea routes from the enemy forces.

The new ship with a length of the hull 94 meter and width 14 m will have a displacement of about 1300 tons. The hull and superstructure of the ship will have a characteristic shape formed by a large number of flat panels. Such lines of the ship will reduce its radar visibility. In the bow of the deck provides a place for the installation of an artillery system. In addition, the ship will be able to carry missile weapons. Stern hull given under the landing site for a helicopter.

The 22160 project patrol ship will receive the main CODAG power plant. It will include diesel and gas turbine engines, as well as a set of gearboxes, etc. aggregates. The torque of the engines will be transmitted to two propellers. The total capacity of the combined power plant should reach 25 thousand kilowatts (about 34 thousand hp). With the help of diesel and gas turbine engines, the 22160 project ship will be able to reach speeds up to 30 units. It is recommended to conduct patrols at a speed of the order of 16 nodes, which will bring the cruising range to 6000 nautical miles.

For the power supply of various systems, including weapons, the lead ship of the new project will receive an 4 diesel generator with an output of 300 kW each. In the parking lot and in emergency situations, the crew will be able to use an additional diesel generator with a power of about 100 kilowatts.

Depending on the tasks assigned, up to 22160 people can be part of the crew of a patrol ship of the 80 project. Autonomy is declared at the level of 60 days.

The ships of the 22160 project are equipped with an A-220M artillery mount with a 57 caliber mm. In addition, for self-defense, the ship can use the Gibka anti-aircraft missile system, several Igla MANPADS and two thumbnail installations with 14,5-mm KPV machine guns. At the request of the customer, the patrol ships can be equipped with the Shtil-1 air defense missile system with two modular launchers or the Caliber-NKE missile system. To detect and destroy saboteurs, new ships should be equipped with the Pallas hydroacoustic station and two DP-65 grenade launchers.

The complex of radio-electronic equipment of the 22160 project ships includes several systems designed for navigation and target detection. It is proposed that patrol ships be equipped with the “Positiv-МЭ1” airborne and surface targets and the Pal-N navigation radar with radar. The detection of underwater targets is proposed to be performed using the MHK-335EM-03 hydroacoustic complex and the Vignette-EM station. If necessary, the ship’s crew will be able to use the TK-25E electronic suppression system and the PK-10 jamming system.

The 22160 project ships will be able to transport and operate helicopters with a take-off weight of up to 12 tons. First of all, these are helicopters of the Ka-27 family. For storage of a helicopter in the middle of the ship, behind the superstructure, a hangar is provided. At the stern of the ship is a platform for takeoff and landing. In addition, as can be seen in the photographs of the layout of the ship of the new project, in the stern there is a place for transporting a light boat.

A few days ago, the Central Naval Portal (Navy.ru) published interesting information obtained “first-hand”. With reference to the commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral V. Chirkov, it was reported that the military department intends to abandon the concept of a “water protection corvette”. Instead, it is supposed to build patrol ships. Such ships, having less powerful weapons, should have greater autonomy and versatility. The development of the new patrol ships should take the Northern Design Bureau.

Thus, the laying of a new ship of project 22160 is to some extent the first step in a new program aimed at the development of the domestic naval fleet. The deadline for the construction of the lead patrol ship of the new project has not yet been announced.


On the materials of the sites:
http://zdship.ru/
http://navy.ru/
http://flotprom.ru/
http://bastion-karpenko.narod.ru/

Comments

[AlNikolaich]

Good news! Happy!

[Duke]

Very happy.

[malikszh]

displacement is small and the ship is for the far sea zone.

[roller2]

Quote: malikszh

displacement is small and the ship is for the far sea zone.

This is a patrol ship, to protect the economy zone, and not for ocean battles. He doesn’t understand what for missile weapons and stealth technology? Nafig do not need them to the border guards, and the cost of the ship is affected quite strongly.

[malikszh]

Project 22160, created at the Northern Design Bureau, involves the construction of a patrol ship capable of operating in the far sea zone and performing various combat missions.

At the expense of the far sea zone it is written here, here a small displacement storm of the window does not proglptit ship?

[Serg65]

Of course, I'm sorry, but 1300 tons, this is not such a small displacement (about 22 loaded railway cars), and the length of 94 meters is quite serious. Another thing is armament, armament for a patrol ship, let's say so absurd ... to have a sonar complex, but not to have anti-submarine weapons? Why on patrol ship "Caliber-NKE"? If at the request of the customer, then if there is no desire, but the place is reserved for him? Another question, what will he patrol? An economic zone or an external raid? Anti-aircraft weapons are also some kind of strange, some air defense systems and what for there MANPADS? Either I, or skis do not go!

[StolzSS]

They wrote about the caliber is not simple))) It will probably be in anti-submarine version)))

[Boa kaa]

Quote: StolzSS

They wrote about the caliber is not simple))) It will probably be in anti-submarine version)))

"Caliber" (aka Club-NK) is a cruise missile, does not fly under water. BUT! The idea is correct: if a UKSK with PU 3R-14 UKSK is installed on the ship, then it is quite possible to load PLUR 91R.
However, on the presented model, in the aft part of the hull, a 4-pipe launcher for the KR is visible, which is more typical for "Uranus".
Incidentally, I was very surprised by the location of the RCC complex. In 1's, vibration and magnitude (amplitude) of the oscillation of the deck during the sea;
and secondly, there is a helicopter landing pad nearby. And what if an emergency landing, when the engine gearbox drives the shavings and every second "Ka" is ready to turn the chassis up !?
This is all from the evil one! In Soviet times, this would not have happened - that's for sure!

[1c-inform-city]

The caliber includes a 3m54t1 missile whose second stage is a plur 91rte2 bch 200kg. so that Caliber can fight boats.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Serg65

to have a sonar system, but not have anti-submarine weapons?

This ship (BLE!) Has no stationary PLO, but it has a helicopter. What prevents planting instead of PS - Ka27PL. And 2 torpedoes, OGAS, buoys, a magnetometer are all the same weapons.

[Alexey Prikazchikov]

Stealth cost does not affect happiness. But everything else on it should be modular. Plus a very strong electronic equipment. It is a pity that all of them refused from LTSs what and what we needed their LTSs. We decided to make everything cheaper as usual.

[postman]

Quote: Alexey Prikazchikov

Stealth cost does not affect happiness.

cute....
TELL ABOUT THIS CONCLUSION:
F-22
F-35
X-47B

DDG-1000 Zumwalt Finally
The cost of subsequent ships of the series may amount to 3,3 billion dollars.
Nothing special except "invisibility". 80 missiles are both SAM and Tomahawks and Harpoons- and so some galosh
Price for promising LCS class corvettes being built for the US Navy exceeded 500 million dollars per unit and can reach 600 million

[patsantre]

Quote: Postman

Nothing special except "invisibility". 80 missiles are both SAM and Tomahawks and Harpoons - and so some kind of galosh

Plusanul after the first phrase, but after reading it I realized that I was in a hurry. The Zamvolt has no equal in radio electronics, its artillery - 2 AGS opens up completely new possibilities, in comparison with the artillery of any other ship. And this is "nothing special"?

[postman]

Quote: patsantre

hurry up.

correctfeel better (maybe)

Quote: patsantre

In radio electronics, the commissar has no equal, its artillery - 2 AGS open up completely new possibilities,

1. What is it about? SPEECH ABOUT:

Quote: patsantre

Stealth does not affect the cost Fortunately.

2.Someone talked about "electronics and 2 AGS" ??????????????????
3.For reference:
- The hull (tumblehome shape) and the superstructure of the ship are surrounded by radar absorbing materials with a thickness of about one inch, the number of protruding antennas is minimized. The hull is fully shielded and has a limited infrared and radar signature EMC (electromagetic compatibility)
Low radio detectability (Extremely small) - at the level of Los Angeles class submarines - and the same low noise.
-To partially compensate for the weight, the ship is built to a large extent (especially the surface part) with the widest use of plastic-based composites.
-The form really reduces the effective dispersion area by 50 times: the indicators are tested on experimental ships. (Here and below a photo of USN.)

-NORTHROP GRUMMAN CORPORATION. DELETED a page
http://www.sb.northropgrumman.com/products/dg1000/index.html
and earlier there was: the cost of stealth technologies "total" of the cost of the entire ship was about 34%/ Not counting NIKR
Много это или мало?
And is human right by affirming

Quote: patsantre

Stealth does not affect the cost Fortunately.

So "not serious" that instead of 32 ships it is planned to build three
with B-2 bombers,

Quote: patsantre

And this is "nothing special"?

about the galosh it looked like

[postman]

And everything else IS STILL DECLARED, Although it looks "tempting
data center in a box: Electronic Modular Enclosures at Raytheon Portsmouth, Rhode Island:

Zumwalt STILL did not swim, but his software has already undergone a FORCED upgrade six times.
The Advanced Gun System ... of course is impressive:


But Total Ship Computing Environment- "ROUNDER" WILL

CDS system can run multiple Linux virtual machines atop LynuxWorx's LynxSecure

[patsantre]

Quote: Postman

2.Someone talked about "electronics and 2 AGS" ??????????????????

So you began to discuss the ship. They started talking about weapons. They said that the ship is nothing special, except for the stealth. I allowed myself to disagree with you :)
And with the fact that stealth negatively affects the cost, I agree.

[postman]

Quote: patsantre

I allowed myself to disagree with you :)

it was a joke ..
And so (in this ship) everything except the stealth (and GEM) is tried and used, for the most part //

THE MAIN FEATURE is 40% better than the Arleigh Burke class, and "phonit" in the radar range like a fishing boat
Elk has less noise, thanks to Water sleeting along the sides, along with passive cool air induction in the mack reduces thermal emissions
Advanced Gun Systemis the Advanced Gun Weapon System Technology Program (AGWSTP) 1980xxx
Canadian engineer Gerald Bull and the headquarters of the Naval Ammunition PERFORMED THESE TESTS in 1967 on 11 inches (279 mm) and 16-inch / 45 (406 mm)

[Flooding]

Quote: rolik2

He doesn’t understand what for missile weapons and stealth technology? Nafig do not need them to the border guards, and the cost of the ship is affected quite strongly.

Short-range air defense systems are needed for any.
And Calm - ext. option, no more.
Stealth technology on a weakly armed ship is not a big problem to implement. Nothing to hide and "lick" is not necessary. I don't see any particular problems. And the requirements for modern. ship just like that.

[roller2]

I mean "Caliber", and the desire to reduce the superstructure is not very good in my opinion, the crew that they plan to keep in a closed box all 60 days? You need to think more about people, if you are going to drive poachers, then what for such freaks?

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Flood

Short-range air defense systems are needed for anyone. And Calm - ext. option, no more.

According to the Almaz-Antey concept, the Shtil-1 air defense missile system and the Gibka air defense missile system make up a single whole in terms of air defense zones: Calm - near, and Flexka - self-defense. I am confused by the detection tools, it seems to me (on the joint service) that "Positive" is not quite what you need. If "Calm" is a classic air defense system, then "Flexible" is essentially a turret "Needle". This is the 4-8 SAM, which can take turns (by the 1-oh!) To fire at the IOS. Aircraft detection boundary - 12-15km, RCC - 8km. The intercept boundary is 4-6 km, the reaction time is8sec.
There is a problem: the launch of missiles occurs after the capture of the target of the GOS missile. If Positive is out of order, rain, night and Harpoon flies to board. Question: where are the reserve funds of the central office?

[Flooding]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

These are 4-8 SAMs, which can take turns (in the first!)

Volley up to two missiles.
And in my amateurish opinion, this is enough to meet the needs of a basic patrol vessel with anti-aircraft equipment.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Flood

Nothing to hide and "lick" is not necessary.

The statement is not true. The ship's EPR determines its detection by active means. In this case, you need to reliably capture the target. And this is time and distance. So you can "fly" into the affected area of ​​the air defense system.
But of all it is best if you are not "found". you are made according to the "stealth" technology and you have, besides the gravitational one, the rest of the fields are compensated.

[Flooding]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

Statement is not true

What are you talking about? We kind of talk about different things.
Read carefully. I wrote that on a lightly armed ship it is easier and cheaper to implement stealth technology. What do you disagree with?

[PLO]

guarding the economy zone is the task of the border guards, who are now a division of the FSB, and not the task of the Navy

[Vladimirets]

The pirates are probably happy too. And nothing boat, pretty.

[VKabanov]

They used to be in the structure of the KGB

[Gagarin]

Pirates would rejoice if there would be a small flotilla of such boats, and there is a suspicion that for pirates this will be a rare guest.

[Bongo]

This ship is unsuitable for counteracting pirates because of its small displacement and as a result of insufficient autonomy. In other words, he is not able to get under his own power to the coast of Somalia. In other words, this is a typical watchman, which, however, does not plead with its values.

[donavi49]

He is able to reach Somalia and be there without entering Oman longer than the 1155 BOD.

This ship is specially designed for patrolling the marine zone, therefore it has autonomy not 20-30 days, but 60.

On fuel range, the economic course is 6000 miles, the maximum speed is 30 knots.

[VKabanov]

A good boat for escorting caravans around Africa. It’s the most.

[navigator]

The number of ships in the series is completely unclear. vague purpose. In general, the number of projects laid in a single copy is astonishing. It seems that there is no clarity either on the tasks of the Navy or on the structure.

[avt]

Quote: navigator

The number of ships in the series is completely unclear. vague purpose. In general, the number of projects laid in a single copy is astonishing. It seems that there is no clarity either on the tasks of the Navy or on the structure.

Beat ahead In general, it is more likely that the FSB makes its fleet on the basis of its budget without any particular link to any strategy of the Navy, so what we want is what we turn off. I bought Italian IVECU Serduchka, and they wanted to collect old French, floating basins here. There really is no sane program for building warships, just patching holes and thoughts about the World Ocean in general, but for now the old, Soviet groundwork is plowed.

[roller2]

Quote: avt

In general, it is more likely that the FSB makes its fleet on the basis of its budget without any particular link to any strategy of the Navy, so what we want is what we turn off.

For the simple reason that the tasks of the Marine Guard are quite different from the tasks of the Navy. And they need completely different ships than the fleet. Look at the old Soviet Lightning, Tarantulas and so on. ships all their lives dragged on themselves unnecessary ballast in the form of torpedo tubes and mines, while they needed a helicopter, an inspection boat, and not a rubber boat, etc. Look at the designs of the new patrol ships, they have a 76-57 mm caliber gun, a pair of 14.5 mm caliber machine guns, and an air defense system, a helicopter and search boats.


Patrol ship pr. 22460


Watchdog of the project 22100 "Ocean"


Ice class patrol ship of Project 22120 Purga

[avt]

Quote: rolik2

. Look at the old Soviet Lightning, Tarantulas and so on. ships all their lives dragged on unnecessary ballast in the form of torpedo tubes and mines,

Come on, no one dragged anything, for example, the torpedo tubes were removed from the boat 205 of the project and the ship of the frontier guards 205P was obtained. The same canoe with 10410. Only in late Soviet times they made a ship on the basis of 1135 border guards, one remained in Ukria. Icebreaking class naturally separately 2210 heir to the Soviet "Blizzard"

Quote: 1c-inform-city

And where does the FSB. They have nothing to do with this ship.

Quote: rolik2

For the simple reason that the Navy does not have these functions, they are put on the Marine Guard of the border service, and as you know, it is part of the FSB so

It looks like yes. I looked through ----- ,, With reference to the commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy, Admiral V. Chirkov, it was reported that the military department intends to abandon the concept of a "corvette for protecting water areas." Instead, it is supposed to build patrol ships. Such ships, having less powerful weapons, must have greater autonomy and versatility. The development of new patrol ships should be dealt with by the Northern Design Bureau. "----- Indeed, the Navy apparently decided to raise the loot on convoy operations and to protect fishermen. So that PMCs would not go in tugs off the coast of Africa and make cheap gunboats. Again the question - The OVR should be provided with border guards, which in wartime should be transferred under the single command of the Navy, unless, of course, each department has its own army and navy within the framework of one state, it doesn’t scrimp under each head of department.

[roller2]

Quote: avt

C'mon, no one was carrying anything, for example, torpedo tubes were removed from the boat 205 of the project and the ship of border guards 205P turned out.

They didn’t take off the Lightning, but they did it off the Tarantula, they kept it in warehouses, but the bomb releasers remained.

Quote: avt

Well, unless of course each department has its own army and navy within the framework of one state for each head of the department.

Everyone should go about their own business, well, ships that are in the Navy do not like border guards.

[1c-inform-city]

And where does the FSB. They have nothing to do with this ship.

[roller2]

Quote: 1c-inform-city

And where does the FSB. They have nothing to do with this ship.

The list of tasks of the new ship in the future will include the protection of territorial waters, patrolling economic zones in closed and open seas, and the fight against smuggling and piracy.

For the simple reason that the Navy does not have these functions, they are put on the Marine Guard of the border service, and as you know, it is part of the FSB so

[1c-inform-city]

The order for the ships came from the fleet, and not from the FSB border service.

[nightingale]

maybe rollback depends

[sivuch]

So let them build the head one first. I don’t know how now, and a quarter of a century ago, when they built the steamboat with my nickname, the problems were higher than the roof. Zelenodoltsi are used to having all their details painted to them with their design bureaus, right up to the places where the pipes were attached. looked like that beast at the new gate. In this case, the project of the northerners.

[donavi49]

How do you know the number of ships? 22460 - won also in the singular, and now a dozen have been commissioned, under construction. This is only the lead ship. Based on the results of his tests, they will decide on the series, now they are talking about the first stage - 4 ship.

[malikszh]

The state program of Russia involves the construction of six ships of the type "Vasily Bykov" until 2019. They will be included in each of the four fleets.

[Interlocutor]

Almost all developed maritime powers are now stamping coastal ships.

[ilya_oz]

Too large and expensive for the patrol, and too small (+ most likely without missiles) for use during the war. It is better to rivet 20380, replacing Uranus with Caliber on them. There will be fewer, but they can still fight.

[donavi49]

20385 costs 0,8 frigate 11356.

These are different purpose ships. 20380 in the Far Sea is not a walker, for autonomy and seaworthiness. Unlike this ship. This is just a relatively cheap and pragmatic version of the Peace Time ship. That's all. So that the same pirates do not knock out the resources of ships of the first rank. To have something to close the distant sea zone. So that there is something to defend your interests (look at the Battle of Vodometak of Chinese and Japanese border guards, and if one of the sides had only destroyers armed, how would it end? WAR OR WASTE WITH A LOSING POSITION!).

Plus, the Caliber is installed in the back of the hull, and a place for the Shtil air defense system is reserved in front of the cabin.

[Sokol peruna]

Test model. It is only incomprehensible if he has PU Caliber in the stern, then where will he stand BUGAS Vignette? In general, the project is quite controversial (like a PC). With not frail autonomy and cruising range, not having a normal hangar for an aircraft is of course nonsense. There are no fluffs yet in production. And yes, according to the mobilization version, a megacruiser.

[Interlocutor]

Quote: donavi49

Plus, the Caliber is installed in the back of the hull, and a place for the Shtil air defense system is reserved in front of the cabin.

I completely agree. As a result of various upgrades and improvements, it is easily possible to make a distant radar station.
The main thing is the board.

[Flooding]

Quote: ilya_oz

Too big and expensive for the patrol

Dear? And how much will it cost the treasury? Is there such information?
Big? Dimension requirements are dictated in this case by a helicopter hangar and increased autonomy. Otherwise it can not be.

[1c-inform-city]

Quote: Bongo

This ship is unsuitable for counteracting pirates because of its small displacement and as a result of insufficient autonomy. In other words, he is not able to get under his own power to the coast of Somalia. In other words, this is a typical watchman, which, however, does not plead with its values.

Well, actually, his autonomy is declared at the level of the destroyer (6000 miles and 60 days). So get to the coast of Somalia. The name of the project is a high seas patrol ship.

[donavi49]

Of everything, he has one significant minus - the poor base of the helicopter. That is, the site is just wonderful! But here the telescope hangar is cramped, that is, preventive / scheduled maintenance and minor repairs in a helicopter are a big question, only in the air. Although in such a VI hard just do not shove.

[1c-inform-city]

Quote: navigator

The number of ships in the series is completely unclear. vague purpose. In general, the number of projects laid in a single copy is astonishing. It seems that there is no clarity either on the tasks of the Navy or on the structure.

The tasks of this ship are just clear. It is needed in order not to chase ships with heavy weapons and lower autonomy for any reason for all sorts of exercises, peaceful missions. It is planned to build at the initial stage a series of five ships, one for each fleet and CFL. Most likely they will be tested in the Caspian.
OK. 1300 tons. High seas patrol ship, 2010. Length - 94 m, width - 14 m. Power unit - DGTU type CODAG, 25000 kW. Speed ​​- 30 knots. Cruising range - 6000/16. Crew - 80 people. 1 57-mm AU A-220M, 2 PU "Bending" (MANPADS "Igla"), 2 grenade launchers DP-65, 2 14,5 mm machine guns, helicopter Ka-27PS. The only thing is, you can really add Calm (as it is relatively not expensive and this will allow him to carry out air defense convoys), but the PKR in my opinion will be superfluous.

[Ruslan]

that's stupidity !!! at least zaminusuyte, this situation infuriates me! WHAT IS THE MODERN CORVETTE NEEDED FOR THEN? damn it’s the same thing, only worse, side view! it would be possible to hone this platform, change, add, etc. for any needs, make the corvette cheaper, simplifying mass production. why so little? let them invent fifty more types of ships of the same purpose, so that the fleet would be more expensive to maintain. idiots !!!

[Russ69]

So far, it’s too early to talk about why the construction was started. A fleet construction strategy should come out for years to come, then we’ll evaluate it all together.

[ilya_oz]

Again we produce a bunch of types of ships. Old story. If it has caliber and calm, then still wherever it went.

[Blad_21617]

just do not need to spend years on its project, and the same amount on construction. The ship is small and its production should be fast ... but in general, where is the promised "super destroyer"?

[1c-inform-city]

Design work on this ship was completed in 2010.

[colonel manuch]

They do not seem to be talking about the "super destroyer" at all. The program of building the fleet was copied from the Soviet ("mosquito fleet"). This ship will be used by the OVR brigades if it goes into series. They do one by one to understand which fleet it can be used more effectively .Where is the anti -arable (anti-submarine) weaponry?

[Roman 1977]

Well, good news, well, there is no worse ... On February 24, 2014, an act of acceptance of the anti-sabotage boat of project 21980 "Grachonok", with serial number 8004 for the Pacific Fleet, was signed. This is the seventh PrDK of this project in the Russian Navy (3-Black Sea Fleet, 2-Pacific Fleet, 1-BF, 1-KFl)

Seven feet under the keel to you "baby"
The construction of diesel-electric submarines of project 636.6 "Rostov-on-Don" for the Black Sea Fleet is also underway.

photos taken

http://forums.airbase.ru/2014/02/t60022,66--podvodnye-lodki-proekta-877-i-636.26
52.html

[Leshka]

good ship, for a good ship good weapons

[dimarm74]

The customer is the Navy after all? Or "border guards"?

[1c-inform-city]

The customer is the Navy. So far, it has been decided to have one boat for each fleet.

[roller2]

Quote: 1c-inform-city

The customer is the Navy. So far, it has been decided to have one boat for each fleet.

Then in general it is not clear why they are needed? Do border guards interrupt bread?

[1c-inform-city]

Is it right to drive a BOD into the Indian Ocean against a Papuan Canoe? Or accompany a couple of bulk carriers with the cruiser Moscow. Moreover, the ship is declared modular and it is possible to install weapons for different tasks. Do you want Calm today, and tomorrow Caliber or both. Just the listed version of the weapons is basic with the possibility of expansion.

[roller2]

Isn’t it easier to put on dry cargo ships in a compartment with full armament? In my opinion both cheaper and more practical than across the ocean they are chasing fragile little boats

[1c-inform-city]

It is forbidden to place military men with weapons on civilian ships by maritime law. They simply will not be allowed into the ports.

[PLO]

So far, it has been decided to have one boat for each fleet.

like they said they were going to build 6 ships until 2019.

In any case, if this is limited, it will be nice, tasks for them probably can be found.
the main thing is that it does not occur to anyone to replace them with MRK and IPC

[PLO]

if the customer is really MO, then this is sheer stupidity

[Boa kaa]

Quote: olp

if the customer is really MO, then this is sheer stupidity

It's just that the "Hrachat" series ends, so they decided to support the enterprise.

[Russ69]

The ship was named "Vasily Bykov" ... How symbolic, given the events in Ukraine ...

MOSCOW, February 26 - RIA Novosti. The groundbreaking ceremony for the lead patrol ship Vasily Bykov began at the Zelenodolsk Construction Plant in Tatarstan, with the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy Admiral Viktor Chirkov taking part in the ceremony, official spokesman for the Navy, Captain 1st Rank Igor Dygalo, told RIA Novosti on Wednesday.

"This ship is a new generation ship, in which a modular principle is used in design and construction," he said.

Dygalo explained that, thanks to this, the ship can be converted for tasks in a short time: it can be used as a patrol ship with missions of an anti-terrorist and anti-piracy nature. It can also act as a rescue ship and as a medical support ship.

RIA Novosti http://ria.ru/defense_safety/20140226/997059168.html#ixzz2uQJmxiUu

[Blind]

According to the idea of ​​the project, the ship is good, but the appearance of the layout suggests a bunch of different thoughts ..
1) WHERE IS THE HELICOPTER HANGAR ??? A ship in the far sea zone without a hangar is nonsense .. Helicopters in this situation can be immediately written into consumables ...
2) WHY such a fool such a Ka-27? This, for a moment, is a rather heavy machine designed primarily for the fight against submarines. And by the way, not cheap — under twenty million bucks a little thing .. Drive a 12-ton helicopter with a practical range of 1000 km with a two-ton combat load of pirates and poachers? That's bullshit! What prevents to tidy up the show-ups and put several times cheaper and more compact Ka-226TM, the capabilities of which are enough for the eyes? And the place will immediately appear on the hangar ..
3) Why does such a ship need newfangled stealth lines? This is a peacetime warship. He still will not survive in a real military conflict, and it is completely useless in it .. Why waste useful area of ​​superstructures on stele-ponte? Again, the crew will live in a 60-day voyage "10 people on a row in a row?"

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Blind

WHERE IS THE HELICOPTER HANGAR?

Where where? -- On the ship! Only it is telescopic, i.e. sliding, like em at pr.956.

Quote: Blind

WHY is such a fool such a Ka-27 a ship?

This is a combat helicopter. It is tested by the sea, on it all systems for detecting, tracking and destroying enemy submarines. And without weapons, you can drive pirates.

Quote: Blind

Why is such a ship newfangled stealth contours

For stealth. See above for more details.

Quote: Blind

Again, the crew will live in a 60-day voyage "10 people on a row in a row?"

I can't say anything about habitability. But "Boyky" type corvettes sit on air conditioners. It is depressing that you cannot open the "lyumik" and breathe fresh air. But you can go out on the hut - smoke, look at the sky. This is not an SP for you! In addition, at NK everyone has their own bed. (Shkonki - elsewhere).
In short, they’ll build it - we'll see!

[sivuch]

Where where? -- On the ship! Only it is telescopic, i.e. sliding, like em at pr.956.
Those. leaking - by the way, one of the main claims of the military to pr.956

[altman]

The laying of the ship took place, it will be named after Vasily Bykov in honor of rear admiral, katernik, Hero of the Soviet Union!

[donavi49]

By the way, on the A-220M gun in the 2014 year of GOSA. Here is a video from 4 minutes, see:
https://vk.com/video-8261989_167451789

[Power]

Drive poachers? More like a yacht of an oligarch embarked on the warpath. defend their possessions. And so pathetic "Construction begins ....". How low we have fallen. Maybe I can also post a photo and scribble an opus like "Inflating begins or, how is it correct, inflating a new water mattress"

[donavi49]

The new ODS Holland is generally almost 4000 tons of v / v. And also without weapons (76mm Melara, 30 mm Marlin and machine guns 12,7 / 7,62) and nevertheless they are being actively built.

[tomcat117]

The good news is to rivet more of them! The sea border is huge, so that the "druzhbany" do not open their mouths on someone else's loaf!

[ya.seliwerstov2013]

And I like! Not big, maneuverable. Patrolling, short, quick strike. It seems that on similar ships the Georgian Navy tried to withstand our naval forces. For ships of this class this task is beyond their strength (they will be destroyed on the way) Well, I’m thinking of guarding the border just right.

[schizophrenic]

Against pirates and poachers, it’s just the right time to stealth in budget execution and climb less knowing that the radar may not help.

[1c-inform-city]

A little off topic, but nice! The Russian Navy will receive nine small missile ships of project 2019 Buyan-M within the framework of the state armament program until 21631. About this, as reported by RIA Novosti, said the commander of the Russian Navy, Admiral Viktor Chirkov. According to him, one ship of this type ─ Veliky Ustyug ─ will enter the fleet in 2014, and in 2015 the military will receive two more Buyan ─ Zeleny Dol and Serpukhov.

[gallville]

And why did they not please 11661k?

[Gans1234]

BuyanM is cheaper and built much faster - they are riveted from scratch right before being transferred to the fleet in 3 of the year. And you can faster.
Cheetah is being built from scratch jo transfer xnumx years!
In armament: both there and there is an art on the nose. gun. Both there and there are 8 Gauges. + Buyan shallow.
Otherwise, the cheetah has more weapons, but it is out of date - the 25 project is years old.

For the Black Sea Fleet, 6-9 buoys are riveted to 20 (6 to 2016-17)
Close the Black Sea itself.
The 22160 project is essentially a modern replacement for Cheetahs. They will go to drive pirates. + The project is modular, they can think of a weapon + there is a vert.

[PAM]

For a "patrolman" the speed of 30 knots will not be enough !?