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Who are the Russian-speaking Bandera in Ukraine?

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Who are the Russian-speaking Bandera in Ukraine?



More than a year ago I wrote an article, or rather the appeal, which was called “Manifesto to the Russian people in Ukraine (updated)". Let me remind in a nutshell that the publication focused on the penetration of Ukrainian nationalism into the Russian-speaking environment. The trouble is that nationalism mowed not only Russian-speaking Ukrainians, but also ethnic Russians. Many did not believe me then, and wrote in the comments that I exaggerate the problem. And when the article came out a week before the euromaidan, which was loudly and boldly called "In Ukraine, not a single Russian person is younger than 30. Only facts”, Not everyone believed me at once either. For example, some residents of Kharkov wrote disturbances in the comments, however, it later turned out that they were residents of Belgorod, who simply often live and work in Kharkov. But, thank God, most of the readers of “VO” have already seriously reacted to the article. Regular readers of the "Military Review" may find repetitions of some of my thoughts and links to other publications. This is due to the fact that I want to make capacious and universal articles, which thanks to this resource will be distributed further.

So what do we have for today? Most likely, this article will be released on Wednesday, so I do not know whether Kharkiv will fall. But, I can definitely say that the author of the article " The Russians missed their chance without imposing their agenda on Maydan to Yanukovych, Unfortunately, comes true. In Donetsk, Russian-speaking policemen with Russian surnames have already begun to persecute those Russians who want to remain true Russians. In particular, they began to open criminal cases against those who set fire to political Bandera offices. It turns out that some investigator Petrov will give out Bandera’s Kiev Ivanov for disobedience to new orders from Mr. Gritsk from Lvov.

I do not want to be categorical and say that a Russian is a humble and servant Russian. But I know for sure that a Russian person is a person of the state and state. Consequently, he, unfortunately, is subordinate to the one at the top. Otherwise, the USSR would not have collapsed, and Gorbachev would have shifted the initiative officers. As was to be expected, the elite of the South-East of Ukraine betrayed the Russian people, as the elite of the Galician-Volyn principality betrayed the Russian people in its time, entering into an alliance with Lithuania, and then concluding a union with the Poles in exchange for preferences and immunity. Today and now there is “Union number 2”. After all, the Donbass (Luhansk and Donetsk region), Novorossia (Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson and Zaporizhzhya regions), and the Crimea were never part of Galicia, but can be bowed. Nor was Slobozhanshchina and the whole Molorossia. There is fragmented and unorganized resistance. And what is the most annoying, it occurs in the form of rallies. And in Western Ukraine, people walk with Kalashnikovs and are not going to take them back to the warehouses.

Today it is too late to appeal to stories and justice. In previous publications, we figured out that every version of the Russian-language history textbook of Ukraine, starting with the 90s, became more radical. We figured out that the tale of the "bad" and "good" Bandera remained in 90, today all the heroes, and Melnykians, and Bandera, and the SS division "Galicia", only the Soviets and the Russians remained the invaders and enemies of Ukraine. Unfortunately, 23 was not in vain. Separately, it is worth noting that the Russian and Russian-speaking Ukrainians lost channels, which defended their point of view and the ideology of the Russian World. During the Orange Revolution, this mission was carried out by the TV channel Ukraina. Now he is completely on the side of euromaidan. And more and more it broadcasts in Ukrainian.

So who is he - Ukrainian Russian-speaking Russophobe ?! As a rule, such people live in all parts of Ukraine, except that there are literally a few in Sevastopol. Sevastopol euromaidan takes place in the 2 hour of the night, at a meeting of 8-10 participants and 20-ti journalists! But most of all Russian-speaking Russophobes in million-plus cities, and in cities where industry is degraded: Nikolaev, Kherson, Dnepropetrovsk (except for Yuzhmash, there is almost nothing left), Krivoi Rog (there a year ago there was a march in honor of the SS division "Galicia"), Kirovograd , Cherkasy, Berdyansk (seaport and Azmol enterprise), etc. In these cities the entrepreneurial, service, consumer and office class dominates. There are cities where the industry has been preserved, but it is not a city-forming one, where the consumer class and office plankton divide the city with the proletariat by influence in half. These are Kharkov, Odessa, Zaporozhye and Donetsk. Here, the Russian-speaking Bandera will never take power themselves unless the true and Ukrainian-speaking Bandera come to their aid, i.e. from Western Ukraine. But there are citadel cities where the percentage of Russian-speaking Bandera is so small that it will be difficult for the militants from Western Ukraine to establish power there. But it provided, if there is organized resistance. So, the Russian cities of the citadel, in descending order of solidity: Sevastopol, Kerch, Mariupol (the most industrialized city with a huge Greek community), perhaps even Lugansk, although Mr. Efremov, judging by news, passed the Lugansk Guard. I don’t put Simferopol on this list because Tatars act as a fifth column. According to my subjective assessments, the split among the Russian-speaking world in the Southeast average 37% vs 63% of people who are Russian in spirit (Russian-speaking Ukrainians and Russians). But if in these regions to send Western Ukrainian-speaking Bandera, the Russophobic forces will prevail. Naturally, I leave behind the brackets the factor of officials who rent everyone. And they know without my publication that there have been more Russophobes since 2004 of the year. Especially among young people. Therefore, the split cards of Ukraine by language principle lose their relevance. The West, thanks to its information war, completely destroyed the thesis that Russia ends where the Russian language ends. Now relevant pictures of the map of Ukraine with speckles and shades.

Portrait of a typical Russian-speaking Russophobe. Advanced PC and Internet user, creative. Native language, naturally Russian. Age is most often up to 30. With great pleasure, listening to Russian music and watching some movies in the style of Hollywood. He also enjoys shaking up Russian-language programs developed by Russians in Novosibirsk and other Russian scientific cities. Can periodically "boast", moving defiantly on the Ukrainian language.

If this is a Russian-speaking Ukrainian, then most often he believes that evil Moscow Russified his ancestors. The Russian Empire, the USSR and the modern Russian Federation - obscurantism.

If it is an ethnic Russian, then he considers himself either an advanced Russian liberal, or a cosmopolitan, or a globalist. Being Russian, he can openly support the thesis that Russians are not Slavs, but a mixture of the peoples of northwestern Russia and the Tatars. In the event of a threat can become a opportunist. And it is easy to change the name and speak on the move. Higher education. Considers himself a competent expert in politics and law. In discussions, he often appeals to civil society, to the community and experience of Eastern Europe, but deliberately closes his eyes to the existence of neoliberalism and the project of human emancipation.

Many Russian-speaking Russophobes believe that since the rights of sex minorities and animals are so strongly protected in the West, then the rights of normal people are even more so. The argument that there is a mandatory European concept of sex education for children is not valid. As a rule, the conversation turns to corruption. At the same time, they do not disdain to get out of the shashlyk for the May holidays in the forest plantation, leaving the scoops in the city with their rallies. True, they forget or do not want to know what they can do in Europe only in their private courtyard, where they will notify the neighbors about the smoke of the kebab and possible inconveniences, or only in special places. They do not want to recognize the fact that in Europe there is no classic Russian free fishing. No one in the store will sell you the bait unless you have completed paid fisher courses and have not joined their community where you have to pay annual fees. As a rule, they respond to these arguments approximately as follows: “And we already have private bodies of water and rates!” They also don’t want to hear about secondary environmental taxes, about the prohibition to heat stoves in houses, about obligatory honey. insurance. Their main idea is respect for the individual and for her freedoms. Of course, they do not forget about their obligations, thereby demonstrating that they cannot be reproached for their ignorance: they say that even without “scoops” they know that freedom has its own obligations. However, when debriefing about the very obligations takes place, they withdraw themselves or launch the record in a new way. Arguments about other social models that will reduce corruption, they are rejected, afraid to lose their position in the debate about the advantages of liberalism.

Also Russian-speaking Russophobes are peculiar to the romantic idea of ​​Western Ukraine. When they say that no one in Lviv will strike you for speaking Russian, they are right, of course. And they admire this, believing that by doing so they break soviet stereotypes. But thanks to the fate that she abandoned me in Western Ukraine. I live here for half a year, and I can confidently assure you of something. Yes, in Western Ukraine there is patriotism, and very strong, but it is patriotism towards Ukrainian nationality. State patriotism in a broad sense is not here. Here, the desire to integrate into Europe under any conditions is overwhelming, as long as the visa regime has been eased or eliminated. Unfortunately, those residents of South-Eastern Ukraine who sympathize with euromaidan cannot fully see and feel the local atmosphere. There is almost every family on earnings. Someone parents for 10-15 years are not returned. Happen, even get divorced; families break up. But on the other hand they have two or even three-story houses and huts. Europlatform everywhere, automatic gates and neat fences. Of course, there are also poor huts, there are about 30-35%. And the streets are not asphalted even in regional centers. Hospitals and schools - the same Soviet gray houses. Dirt and broken roads. In such a contrast, there arises the euphoria that you can sign anything, as we live without the industry of the east of Ukraine. And who will finance kindergartens, hospitals, and schools? And who will pay the pension and help with the birth of a child? Does a parcel from Italy and a money order from Poland solve all the problems? The myth of self-organization in Western Ukraine according to the principles of "Magdeburg Law" is a fairy tale. Believe me, no one here in Western Ukraine will throw money off a public road or hospital. There are the same elemental garbage dumps as in the south-east of Ukraine, and even worse. The mentality here, dear Russian-speaking Russophobes, is still different from ours. You can shout “Glory to Ukraine!” In the South-East as much as you like, but it’s hard for me to imagine you, Russian-speaking, picking apples in Poland or sweeping the streets of Italy. And all this for several years in a row, not only to support the family, but also to build a house or buy an apartment! Arabs and Africans will dump, are you ready for this? Are you ready to leave your families for 10 years to exchange a stable job near the house for hard, degrading, but well paid? It is hard for me to imagine you on Sundays in churches that observe Greek-catalytic rites! You, "respected" Russian-speaking Russophobes, call all Putin's orthodox agents or, in disgust, set a liberal diagnosis: "Inflammation of the Orthodox hemisphere!" And you yourself, except the chanters of the zapadenskys, do not in any way join their Uniate traditions! The day after tomorrow you will be traitors for them too, when they build their great Galicia!

But who am I talking to? I russophobes answer that they stand for freedom and the rule of law! For a system of checks and balances! For freedom of speech!

And what will sign a bonded association and tie it to the financial assistance from the IMF? And the fact that our industry physically does not have time to adapt to European standards in a few years? You work in offices, you are entrepreneurs, you are so smart and creative, but still your food chain reaches for factories and plants! Remember the 7 class, namely the lesson of economic geography! And the fact that European standards of law carry a total unification and regulation of personal and public life, is it nothing? Are you ready for the fact that in exchange for arresting a minister for plagiarism of scientific work, you should host the institute of civil squealing? Is it a holy duty to push a neighbor? Do you want a liberal totalitarianism?


Gritsko, what about the Ukrainian industry? After all, our planes are not needed by Europe! Answer: "Ukraine - tsevropa! Freedom abo death!"


Russian-speaking Bandera are not true nationalists of Ukraine, not only because they do not speak the Ukrainian language of Ternopil’s sample, not only because they don’t go to the Greek Catholic churches, but because they are a dangerous mix of Americanism, liberalism, Europeanism, Russophobia ( fear of returning to the "scoop" and the association with corruption) and agnosticism. They are easy to take flight. They are cowards. Because in their blood there is an adaptation and a craving for liberal comfort. In addition to Russophobia, zapadentsev has a pivot - the Christian faith, it is a pity that it is treacherous. And in Russian-speaking Russophobes, only liberal Ponte and pseudo-nationalism. Almost all of my "familiar" Russian-speaking Ukrainian. nationalists from Berdyansk stayed at home, they were afraid of their liberal "little soul" to give up under bullets. It is better and safer to write Russian-speaking Russophobic comments on the pages of the Russian-language newspaper "Berdyansk Vedomosti" in the Russian-speaking city of Berdyansk, which was founded by the Russian count Vorontsov. Zapadensky enemy I have more respect than the traitors of the Russian people. Adapted in one word. Now they got out when Kiev fell, and they want to demolish the monument to Lenin on Primorskaya Square. The local mayor A. Bakay is ready to discuss the technical aspects of dismantling. About 100 people came to the defense of the monument - this is from the 112-thousandth city! The next one will be a monument to Count Vorontsov and Soviet paratrooper liberators in Schmidt Park, I am almost certain. But for this, 5 is also needed for years, in order for a new generation to grow up on even more radical textbooks edited by the “Right Sector”.

And on the other side of the Azov Sea, to the south, there is the city of Yeisk. There, too, there is a monument to Lenin, there is also a monument to Count Vorontsov (the builder of Novorossiya) and also a monument to the fallen Soviet soldier, but there people not only speak Russian, there they know that they are Russian. So, two Russian cities became antagonists. Give me the city of Vladivostok, a textbook on the history of Ukraine, and in 23, it will be 40% Russophobic, albeit Russian-speaking.

Russian in Russia! Kill liberalism on the vine, revive Russian traditions! Liberals beat in the back!
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  1. Hs487
    Hs487 26 February 2014 09: 51
    +33
    Judah, kinship is not remembering.
    1. sscha
      sscha 26 February 2014 11: 39
      +13
      Moreover, Yarosh banderlog plans to separate three regions from Russia, which he considers Ukrainian !!! am
      ZY Read on "Military materials" hi
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        26 February 2014 12: 40
        +33
        Quote: sscha
        Moreover, Yarosh banderlog plans to separate three regions from Russia, which he considers Ukrainian !!! am
        ZY Read on "Military materials" hi


        In Russia, "Right Sector" should be declared a terrorist organization! soldier
        1. URAL72
          URAL72 26 February 2014 16: 44
          +28
          I live in Kiev, myself from Kherson. I can not object to a single word of the author. But who reads such articles here, how many Ukrainian flags are in the comments? It's a pity. Recently, one and the same thought has been tortured: - it would be like in the old days, Cossacks with sabers naked, from Kiev to the Polish border, not sparing ANYONE ...
          1. donigrol
            donigrol 26 February 2014 16: 52
            +17
            completely for.
          2. kirieeleyson
            kirieeleyson 26 February 2014 17: 36
            +8
            Many in Kiev are left like you?
            Friends say that those who talked on the phone and in social networks yesterday, as Kievites, sharply hung EuroMaidan flags on their pages and stopped communicating with friends from the Russian Federation and some other cities. What is going on there, has this really hastily written cheap propaganda of euromaidan worked? Where is introspection, why do people allow themselves to believe all this, and why refuse to think independently?
            1. Draz
              Draz 26 February 2014 17: 47
              0
              Because most people are like that, humble yourself.
            2. Skif
              Skif 27 February 2014 02: 27
              +2
              The author of the article writes correctly (it seems without grammatical errors), but I read it here on the forum for a long time, since the New Year. He claims that he lives in western Ukraine, and there he speaks only in Russian, even then he wanted to give dyor from there, but it didn't work out ... I was in those parts, then they almost spat in the face for Russian speech, now I would Probably, they just soaked it ... Yes, and the flag of citizenship changes briskly, there was an Icelander - became a Ukrainian ... Conclusion - a troll is sitting in Reykjavik, and fanning enmity between Ukrainians and Russians. I, the reserve officer, who has two children and work at the counter at the oligarchs (at least something), simply have no opportunity and have no time to go to the Anti-Maidan. Even if I went, an arrest is guaranteed, and so on. The West has been preparing for this for years, and Herr "Nevsky" reproached me for the collapse of the Lenin monument ... Come, show an example. For me, by and large, fighting is not a problem, but who will then worry about our families? All "greyhounds from afar", and the fact that the East of Ukraine does not have a LEADER, there is no strength to follow, everyone has forgotten.
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          3. Black
            Black 26 February 2014 18: 24
            +1
            Quote: URAL72
            it would be like in the old days, Cossacks with sabers naked, from Kiev to the Polish border, not sparing ANYONE ..


            Why are you demonizing us then? We are kind ...
            1. Danafxnumx
              Danafxnumx 26 February 2014 19: 12
              +1
              Quote: Chen
              Why are you demonizing us then? We are kind ...

              let people dream already ...

              the picture of bloody reprisal over the guns does not give rest laughing
              But there wasn’t even a checker ...
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          5. postman
            postman 26 February 2014 18: 52
            +6
            Quote: URAL72
            But who reads such articles here, how many Ukrainian flags are in the comments?

            - read all the former citizens of the USSR
            -you write / say \ show you LESS
            -a type of people of Ukraine "do not know" Hu from Hu?
            PROBLEMS OF UKRAINE ONLY UKRAINIANS CAN SOLVE! This is an axiom.
            all of yours only spoke a lot: we, ladies, we feed the WestEntsev (or whatever they wrote, hammering on the keyboard ..
            RESULT?
            What is happening now?
            And who chose your President? (All honestly)
            But it was necessary (this is not advice, this is just the logic of actions "
            1. As soon as the Western democracies (the Embassy of the USA and other Europe) began to buzz, roughly speaking, conduct reconnaissance-subversive-sabotage activities aimed at overthrowing the governing bodies: persona non grata
            -Lukashenko expelled the ambassadors of Poland and the EU from Belarus!
            -Lukashenko expelled the ambassador of Sweden from the country because of teddy bears


            =====
            And for all the blathering, went to LJ
            2. The golden eagle and the explosives carry out a strict mopping-up of the Maidan: criminals, people with weapons, looters-in shackles, in filtration camps, then investigative actions, court. Explosives (and troops) are introduced into those areas and cities WHERE THE LAWFUL ELECTED AUTHORITY WAS OVERLOADED, all the same as on the Maidan.
            Can't the soft president? But after he pulled back, the Military should have done it, or the Head of the Golden Eagle, or who is there in your country that cares for your homeland?
            Weak? then item 3. (soft)
            3. Golden eagles and explosives surround (block) the Maidan, stopping the supply of: food, water, weapons, finance. The same explosives (and troops) in those areas and cities WHERE THE LAWFILLED AUTHORITY WAS OVERFLATED.
            Weak? then item 4. (super soft) - and probably the most correct
            4. All those talkers (we will tear, we feed, we will show them):
            gathered, organized, took bats, armatures, hunting and other weapons, reached Kiev and to those regions and cities WHERE THE LEGALLY SELECTED POWER WAS OVERLOOKED = IMPLEMENTED ON FULL Maidan and other monks (if the US ambassador suffered, or that Lady with The European Union) - "WHO HIDN'T HIDDEN, I'm not to blame"
            THIS ACCIDENTALLY HAPPENED SO, then would apologize

            ================================
            / sniper cover according to claim 4 is carried out by the SBU, Golden Eagle, BB, Special Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine /
            ================================
            1. postman
              postman 26 February 2014 18: 52
              +1
              What did you have? And how did you (Ukrainians) defend your country?
              Is that what?
              Arriving on the Kiev Maidan on Friday, Vasily Krikovsky explained his act in this way:

              "How can we calmly watch how civilians are shot at? Moreover, we have sworn to serve the people of Ukraine, and not a bunch of oligarchs!"

              About a hundred of Radekhov's militiamen arrived at the Maidan with service weapons and are ready, in their words, to give a "retaliatory blow"

              , but they write:
              At the US Embassy in Kiev passed rally of many thousands
              you can fuck up - scared

              already funny:

              Near the University metro station, on the night of January 23, the aunts blocked the coordinator’s car, which they did not pay for a share under the US Embassy.
            2. takto.onotak
              takto.onotak 26 February 2014 23: 37
              +3
              It remains only to take off his hat to Belarus ... !!!
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          6. stroporez
            stroporez 26 February 2014 19: 12
            +1
            as in Gogol: "... - The colonels have done such things that God forbid us anyone ..." and to slap ------- people ............
          7. Lesnik
            Lesnik 26 February 2014 20: 58
            0
            I respected fundamentally posted the FLAG of the USSR and what?
            And as for the checkers, you have mixed up a little century.
          8. Yars
            Yars 26 February 2014 21: 52
            +2
            I also support the author and I also come from western Ukraine
      2. UREC
        UREC 26 February 2014 13: 27
        +1
        The "reward" will find this "hero" too.
      3. skeptic
        skeptic 26 February 2014 15: 59
        +6
        Quote: sscha
        Moreover, Yarosh banderlog plans to separate three regions from Russia, which he considers Ukrainian !!!


        Yes, the flag in his hands and parting words from Prince Alexander Nevsky, on the road. At least there will be a legitimate reason to strangle maidan prostitutes in the land of Galitsky.
        1. donigrol
          donigrol 26 February 2014 16: 55
          +1
          not sweet, not that word, and especially when prices have crept up.
          1. Simon
            Simon 27 February 2014 08: 39
            0
            ABOUT...! Friends, Ukrainians, it won't be the same, and the prices are crawling, and there will be no money to take, production will stop, Europe does not need your products, they will sell you their own, you will not produce your famous bacon, the Poles and Germans are feeding, the taxes on utilities will be increased. services, for real estate and land plots, then remember Russia and the Soviet Union and your Russophobia will end quickly, but it will be too late, you will be a part of "free Europe", to clean up the pots after the Germans and Poles. When the family has no money, there are scandals and fights, and the family falls apart. Not long left, soon grab your arms and the civil war will go.
      4. Evgen_Vasilich
        Evgen_Vasilich 26 February 2014 17: 30
        +1
        let him try ... we will meet him here.
      5. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 26 February 2014 19: 09
        +2
        Quote: sscha
        Moreover, Yarosh banderlog plans to separate three regions from Russia, which he considers Ukrainian !!!

        ohhh i think yarosh is waiting for a very big surprise laughing
      6. Simon
        Simon 27 February 2014 08: 10
        +1
        I wonder how he understands this. This is not Kiev, will return back with nothing, even without teeth, if it returns.
    2. ddmm09
      ddmm09 26 February 2014 11: 54
      +20
      I read the news on Ukrainian sites ... More and more news about the persecution of former officials, judges, prosecutors, etc., who are now fighting with the former opposition. Former extremists are released, such as political, they were sitting for their convictions.
      Yes, it’s difficult for ordinary people in Ukraine now and the flywheel of repressions is only being developed. What will happen next? .. The news is gloomy. Even Saakashvili, as I understand it, refused high positions in the new government of Ukraine, realizing how stalemate the situation in the country is.
    3. Nevsky_ZU
      26 February 2014 12: 40
      +8
      Quote: Hs487
      Judah, kinship is not remembering.


      So it is, unfortunately. hi
    4. jjj
      jjj 26 February 2014 12: 57
      +2
      Quote: Hs487
      And on the other side of the Sea of ​​Azov, to the south, there is the city of Yeysk.

      And in Yeisk there is an odd side of Schmidt street. Even - in Ukraine. And together it's one whole
    5. cdrt
      cdrt 26 February 2014 14: 43
      +5
      The author got sick - I understand, given how he spent the last days (we all saw this here on the site).

      But ... these Russian-speaking residents of Ukraine, who believe that their path with Ukraine - why are they traitors?

      The man grew up, was brought up in an environment of increasing pressure by Ukrainian national politics, learned from existing textbooks and history courses.

      Moreover, the traditional (according to my recollections - this was already in full swing in the 80s) approach of the New Russians and Little Russians - Russia should always and always be to blame for all the troubles of the inhabitants of Ukraine - simply led to a logical resolution in the worldview.

      They did not betray anything!
      They grew up in a virtually different country that gave them a different culture and they defend its "achievements" - no matter how we treat these "achievements", no matter how naive they seem to us.

      Yes, none of them will go to fight for the liberal-Galician idea, but the Russian "spiritual bonds" (and in fact the Russian version of the traditionalist conservative empire) does not look attractive to them.

      Actually, the problem is precisely this: for the majority of residents of Russian Ukraine (and many other countries of the Russian world), the "image" promoted by the Russian Federation - the notorious "spiritual bonds", flirting with aggressive traditionalists, Russian "imperial nationalism" is not attractive.

      They will not fight for him!
      And this is not their problem, but ours.
      Soft power must attract, and if it cannot, it is the problem of the one who is trying to use it.

      Moreover, where the people are more pro-Russian (Sevastopol - as a city where residents are completely connected with the Black Sea Fleet) - they are more susceptible to the ideology promoted by the Russian Federation.
      1. SHOCK.
        SHOCK. 26 February 2014 18: 55
        +6
        Quote: cdrt
        They did not betray anything!
        They grew up in a virtually different country that gave them a different culture and they defend its "achievements" - no matter how we treat these "achievements", no matter how naive they seem to us.

        Today I talked with a friend (she has relatives in Kharkov), and so the godfathers stopped communicating with her relatives only because they are Russians, and this despite the fact that both of them are already retired, that is. all over 60.
        And I remembered the blessed time, the end of the sixties. I had a friend from Donbass, I came to my grandmother in the village and he, too, to my neighbors. So he proved to me then stubbornly that Ukraine would have lived much better without Russia, since they us they feed, sing, dress, put on shoes, well, in general, Russian parasites sit on their neck. And this was said by a kid who was not yet ten. Naturally, he himself could not think of this, and simply repeated what adults say.
        The conclusions suggest themselves, the age has nothing to do with it. There are more frostbite among young people, but there are enough of them among the older generation. The problem has ripened for a long time, it was simply hushed up, and the Zapadents took advantage of the situation.
        By the way, Kharkov relatives are already sitting on their suitcases, but they have places to go, and what should anyone do in this situation?
        1. Rider
          Rider 26 February 2014 22: 19
          0
          Quote: Sh.O.K.
          But what in this situation do those who have nowhere to do?

          organize and arm.
          them and their families, no one but them will protect.

          However, everyone hopes that everything will settle down.

          hardly of course, but wait and see
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      3. takto.onotak
        takto.onotak 27 February 2014 00: 02
        0
        right, they are just nothing. indifference is the main trouble. what if it doesn’t concern me ...
    6. Interface
      Interface 26 February 2014 22: 17
      0
      To put it mildly ... lol
  2. sergey32
    sergey32 26 February 2014 10: 35
    +34
    Maybe the air of Ukraine is saturated with betrayal?
    Recently, Dugin said - there was not a single hetman who would not betray Russia, even Khmelnitsky. I am silent about the current hetmans, with their direct participation brainwashed the young generation.
    1. AVV
      AVV 26 February 2014 11: 12
      +20
      Quote: sergey32
      Maybe the air of Ukraine is saturated with betrayal?
      Recently, Dugin said - there was not a single hetman who would not betray Russia, even Khmelnitsky. I am silent about the current hetmans, with their direct participation brainwashed the young generation.

      More than twenty years, some continuous fights on TV in parliament, it would not be better to divorce peacefully like Czechs with Slovaks !!! Or a civil war endless is better !!! And all alone with big victims will lead to a split into two parts that will not live never together !!!
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      2. Per se.
        Per se. 26 February 2014 11: 34
        +23
        Quote: AVV
        More than twenty years, some continuous fights on TV in parliament, it would not be better to divorce peacefully like Czechs with Slovaks !!!
        Czechs and Slovaks are not a threat to the West, the same Hitler gladly included Czechoslovakia in the Third Reich. Little Russia is another matter, for the West it’s the same Russia, and not just Russia, but original Russia, the historical Homeland of all Russia, like Kiev, the original Russian capital, the heart of Russian Orthodoxy. The West understands this, but we forgot about it, they want to kill us from our hearts, from Kievan Rus. We did nothing in the struggle for Russia, the word Little Russia (indigenous Russia) was replaced by Ukraine, and adding the western lands, this Polish GMO, we laid a mine, which exploded. Now the moment of truth has come, it is already clear that the West always sees the enemy in Russia, no matter what, the Tsar is with us, the Communists or the oligarchs with the Family. We’ll lose our chance, we will be inactive, Russian Kiev, native Russia will die, they will come to finish us off in Russia itself.
        1. vlademaev
          vlademaev 26 February 2014 12: 04
          +10
          I’m sure our government will not decide on serious steps to Russify Ukraine, to support the Russians there. It will wait for the election and continue to do business with the new government. Ours need money, not people. The chance that our authorities (we will not count individual deputies) will take serious steps to save the Russian in Russian in Ukraine will be only if the Bandera foolishly begin the massacre. And it is enough for them, as it is correctly said in the article, to wait 5-10 years, not threatening, but only teaching a new generation of Russians in Russophobic traditions of Westernism.
          1. donigrol
            donigrol 26 February 2014 16: 57
            +3
            Now, I'm afraid that this is unfortunately true.
          2. Rider
            Rider 26 February 2014 22: 25
            +1
            Quote: vlademaev
            I’m sure our government will not decide on serious steps to Russify Ukraine, to support the Russians there.

            and I would like to object, but nothing.

            I hope that you (and I) are mistaken.
        2. cdrt
          cdrt 26 February 2014 16: 32
          +1
          Quote: Per se.
          Quote: AVV
          More than twenty years, some continuous fights on TV in parliament, it would not be better to divorce peacefully like Czechs with Slovaks !!!
          Czechs and Slovaks are not a threat to the West, the same Hitler gladly included Czechoslovakia in the Third Reich. Little Russia is another matter, for the West it’s the same Russia, and not just Russia, but original Russia, the historical Homeland of all Russia, like Kiev, the original Russian capital, the heart of Russian Orthodoxy. The West understands this, but we forgot about it, they want to kill us from our hearts, from Kievan Rus. We did nothing in the struggle for Russia, the word Little Russia (indigenous Russia) was replaced by Ukraine, and adding the western lands, this Polish GMO, we laid a mine, which exploded. Now the moment of truth has come, it is already clear that the West always sees the enemy in Russia, no matter what, the Tsar is with us, the Communists or the oligarchs with the Family. We’ll lose our chance, we will be inactive, Russian Kiev, native Russia will die, they will come to finish us off in Russia itself.


          Well no. For the West - Ukraine is part of the former Russian Empire (and the USSR), inhabited by other people, closely associated with the Russian, but who chose the path of an independent state. Everyone also understands that Kiev is one of the hearts of Russian culture.
          The most dangerous thing in my opinion for us is that there is a clear comparison:
          - a complete analogue of Kosovo for the Serbs
          - Prussia and Pomerania as part of Poland in the 1930s
        3. Stanislas
          Stanislas 26 February 2014 16: 50
          +3
          Quote: Per se.
          We did nothing in the struggle for Russia
          Fans ... What everyone in their place has done for this struggle is clearly not enough - Kiev, "the mother of Russian cities", has already been seized by the enemies-privatizers (Ukrainizers) of everything Russian.
        4. So_o_tozh
          So_o_tozh 26 February 2014 17: 55
          +8
          What could you do? Give money, so the locals would plunder. It’s unrealistic to introduce the troops, the media are completely pro-Western ... It was necessary 10 years ago to finance the press, to create your own zone of influence in the Ukrainian media, but right now? And most importantly, we need results in Russia itself, so that any Ukrainian looks with envy at Russia and is surprised at the standard of living, salary, army and navy. It seems to me like this, a living example of Russia's overwhelming superiority in living standards, we can make us think that it will really be better with Russia. Everything else is a word that politicians twist 1000 times.
          1. SHOCK.
            SHOCK. 26 February 2014 19: 31
            +1
            Quote: So_o_tozh
            What could you do? Give money, so the locals would plunder. It’s unrealistic to introduce the troops, the media are completely pro-Western ... It was necessary 10 years ago to finance the press, to create your own zone of influence in the Ukrainian media, but right now? And most importantly, we need results in Russia itself, so that any Ukrainian looks with envy at Russia and is surprised at the standard of living, salary, army and navy. It seems to me like this, a living example of Russia's overwhelming superiority in living standards, we can make us think that it will really be better with Russia. Everything else is a word that politicians twist 1000 times.


            I completely agree with you. Russia, with its pokh @ ism in relation to ours in the near abroad, has not only pushed away all who it could, but also aggravates the situation by being silent now.
            Among the victims of the clashes that took place during the rally, there are Crimean Tatars, the agency "Crimean News" reports. The victims were hit by stones that had flown in from the pro-Russian activists. As the QHA correspondent notes, Crimean Tatars who came to the rally from remote regions of Crimea are now dispersed, supporters of pro-Russian organizations remain in the field.

            By the way, from the latest news: How long can these people hold on if Russia remains silent?
      3. ddmm09
        ddmm09 26 February 2014 11: 46
        +6
        In Ukraine they will not be able to live without fights, it has always been like that - the mentality is like that. I have a brother-in-law, lives in the Moscow region, a builder, lives much better than we here in Siberia. In essence, he is a Bandera, praises Bandera. And everyone stings, is always dissatisfied, everyone remembers that they didn’t give him leave in the army, they gave everyone, but they didn’t give him, concluding that this is because he is Ukrainian (word for x ..., but don’t write I can - there is already a warning for this word). Although he is a normal man as a man.
        Indigenous Ukrainians should be asked about the features of education, especially now. The second thing I can note is the temperament of all residents of the southern regions, since he himself was born and raised in the south of Kazakhstan. We quickly give in to emotions, do things, and only then think about their meaning. We can quarrel because of a trifle, more vengeful. In this regard, the Slavs of the south, in their character and temperament, become more like the inhabitants of the Caucasus and the CA.
        1. Skif
          Skif 26 February 2014 14: 53
          +3
          Respected! I fundamentally disagree with you, this is now the education of young people is (unfortunately) in different ways. It’s not a matter of mentality, but of external influences on it (and on those in power, and if the money is in the West, even more so) ... I’m Ukrainian, my mother and grandmother and wife are Russians, and who do you want to be considered? Vengeful bandara or Russian? There has been no nationality division for a long time and cannot be, this is all bullshit on the ears of simpletons. But I know for sure that my grandfather (Ukrainian), fought with the Nazis, went through the whole war, and then, instead of the demobilization deserved by blood, for another 2 years in western Ukraine he fought with "fighters for the Square of the SS", and I know that he is one of four brothers, the only one who survived the war. The Ukrainian people should not be confused with the Banders - these are incompatible concepts.
          1. polida
            polida 26 February 2014 16: 50
            +1
            My husband was born in Kazakhstan, the last name is Ukrainian
            and he is RUSSIAN
        2. cdrt
          cdrt 26 February 2014 16: 37
          0
          Quote: ddmm09
          In Ukraine they will not be able to live without fights, it has always been like that - the mentality is like that. I have a brother-in-law, lives in the Moscow region, a builder, lives much better than we here in Siberia. In essence, he is a Bandera, praises Bandera. And everyone stings, is always dissatisfied, everyone remembers that they didn’t give him leave in the army, they gave everyone, but they didn’t give him, concluding that this is because he is Ukrainian (word for x ..., but don’t write I can - there is already a warning for this word). Although he is a normal man as a man.
          Indigenous Ukrainians should be asked about the features of education, especially now. The second thing I can note is the temperament of all residents of the southern regions, since he himself was born and raised in the south of Kazakhstan. We quickly give in to emotions, do things, and only then think about their meaning. We can quarrel because of a trifle, more vengeful. In this regard, the Slavs of the south, in their character and temperament, become more like the inhabitants of the Caucasus and the CA.



          +100500
          The mentality is very different from ours:
          1. Indeed, they are much more emotional (by the way, because girls use such fame :-), remember that they were allowed to marry from the age of 14 even in the USSR)
          2. Many more impulsive, as a rule, believe in what they think here and now
          3. The Ukrainian is always bad. Even if I received a rich inheritance - oh bad, how am I now, etc. You ask - what is bad then? Well ... will begin to crumple, for guile :-)
          4. A lot more neat (you can just compare the usual Ukrainian farm and our ordinary village). In Ukraine, the huts will be whitewashed every year and the bed is broken, etc.
          5. More prone to ordering life - remember that in SA the best foremen were ho.h.ly.
          Something like this - others are shorter, similar, but not the same

          Well ... information from where.
          He spent all his childhood in Ukraine - every year for half a year. Lugansk and Vinnitsa. Wife - origin (grew up in St. Petersburg-Moscow time) from Khmelnitsky.
          For the past 10 years I have been constantly working and making friends with Ukrainians, Kiev mainly
      4. GOGY
        GOGY 26 February 2014 12: 08
        +8
        The West does not allow a divorce either peacefully or by war, the Czechs and Slovaks were easier - they did not join anyone and therefore were not interested in the backstage. Russia and thus it (Russia) will be strengthened, from this they wake up in the West in a cold sweat and will resist with all their might and will go to any meanness. Their task, I think, will be to keep the whole of Ukraine in a single anti-Russian field until the pro-Russian and pro-Russian sentiments are completely cleansed. Taking into account the statements of the Bandera leaders, 3 years or even less will be enough for this, after which we will get not only the territory with American bases, but also quite ready-made punishers who usually follow the "liberators" and do the dirtiest work
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    2. nomad74
      nomad74 26 February 2014 11: 29
      +8
      Yes, the nobility recognizes privileges only for themselves and the right to rebellion! Where does statehood come from! So they spun like a weather vane the whole story! A sense of social responsibility is unfamiliar to them!
    3. nomad74
      nomad74 26 February 2014 11: 29
      +2
      Yes, the nobility recognizes privileges only for themselves and the right to rebellion! Where does statehood come from! So they spun like a weather vane the whole story! A sense of social responsibility is unfamiliar to them!
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 26 February 2014 16: 40
        0
        Quote: nomad74
        Yes, the nobility recognizes privileges only for themselves and the right to rebellion! Where does statehood come from! So they spun like a weather vane the whole story! A sense of social responsibility is unfamiliar to them!


        Not. It’s just different. They answer only to themselves. Although ... they have a concept of unity - let's recall Taras Bulba at Gogol and for what he punished his son.
    4. Jack7691
      Jack7691 26 February 2014 12: 02
      +12
      Not me said: 2 Ukrainians - partisan detachment; 3 Ukrainians - partisan detachment with a traitor ...
      1. cdrt
        cdrt 26 February 2014 16: 40
        0
        Quote: Jack7691
        Not me said: 2 Ukrainians - partisan detachment; 3 Ukrainians - partisan detachment with a traitor ...


        Super!
        I would just say - one h.ohol - dissatisfied, 2 h.ohl - partisan detachment with a traitor laughing
      2. So_o_tozh
        So_o_tozh 27 February 2014 00: 44
        +2
        Not so: Where there are 2 Ukrainians there are 3 Getman))
    5. cdrt
      cdrt 26 February 2014 16: 30
      +3
      Quote: sergey32
      Maybe the air of Ukraine is saturated with betrayal?
      Recently, Dugin said - there was not a single hetman who would not betray Russia, even Khmelnitsky. I am silent about the current hetmans, with their direct participation brainwashed the young generation.


      Hmm ... maybe such a "constant betrayal" says that we Russians have drawn ourselves an incorrect picture of the world, the world is constantly giving us signals - THE PICTURE IS WRONG, and we persist without seeing it?
      Perhaps in Ukraine from the time of Khmelnitsky from the East Slavic peoples, former inhabitants of Kievan Rus, immigrants from Great Russia, Polovtsy, descendants of Poles, Wallachians, Moldavians, Greeks, the Ukrainian nation is being formed?
      How is it that from the descendants of the northern branch of the Eastern Slavs, the descendants of immigrants from the Kiev area of ​​Kievan Rus, Finno-Ugog tribes, immigrants from nomadic and Volga tribes on the territory of Russia itself (more precisely, Great Russia - the European part of Russia) is the addition and development of the Russian nation?

      Actually, both Khmelnitsky and the hetmans possibly served the way they understood the interests of Ukraine?
      And, if the interests of Great Russia differed from the interests of Ukraine - naturally they chose their interests?

      This explanation sharply reduces the amount of metaphysics - "the air in Ukraine is saturated with betrayal" ...
      Accordingly, according to the principle of Occam's razor, this explanation is better than "eternal betrayal."
      Well ... and of course, no one will hinder us from continuing to believe in treacherous air - in fact, it’s only bumps on our head that appear from us.
      1. Rider
        Rider 26 February 2014 22: 34
        0
        Quote: cdrt
        Actually, both Khmelnitsky and the hetmans possibly served the way they understood the interests of Ukraine?
        And, if the interests of Great Russia differed from the interests of Ukraine - naturally they chose their interests?

        you are right and wrong at the same time, indeed hetmans had to take into account the interests of the people of Ukraine, and they sometimes differed from the interests of the Republic of Ingushetia.
        however, when the hetmans alternately laid a mace at the feet of either the Poles, then the Krymchaks, then the Swedes, did this also go in line with the interests of Ukraine?
        maybe their selfish?
  3. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 26 February 2014 11: 19
    +3
    Yes, just goats ...
    1. kamelion
      kamelion 26 February 2014 11: 44
      +1
      selyuk worldview.
      1. Nevsky_ZU
        26 February 2014 12: 34
        +1
        Quote: kamelion
        selyuk worldview.


        Exactly. Khutoryan ideology captures the industrial southeast. :(
  4. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 26 February 2014 11: 21
    0
    Ukraine hasn’t died yet, but Alekh Khokhli has violated the problem.
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 26 February 2014 13: 09
      +4
      Quote: Yoon Klob
      Yun Klob Today, 11:21
      Ukraine hasn’t died yet, but Alekh Khokhli has violated the problem.
      What? I do not understand minus you or vice versa.
  5. Boris55
    Boris55 26 February 2014 11: 25
    +5
    Here are a couple of Judas.
    What sign was sent to the Jews of Ukraine G. Kernes after returning from Geneva:


    The mudra of prana (of life).
    The fulfillment of this mudra evens out the energy potential of the whole organism, contributes to the strengthening of its vitality. Increases working capacity, gives vitality, endurance, improves overall well-being.


    The bifurcated fingers in the picture mean: we surrendered Ukraine, save who can.

    Confirmation of this is the participation of M. Dobkin in the presidential election. This means that they recognized the new government and went over to the side of the Maydan. That is why monuments save in Kharkov, and not the authorities (administrations).
    1. alexbg2
      alexbg2 26 February 2014 11: 38
      +19
      Quote: Boris55


      Confirmation of this is the participation of M. Dobkin in the presidential election. This means that they recognized the new government and went over to the side of the Maydan. That is why monuments save in Kharkov, and not the authorities (administrations).

      The saddest thing is that the Russian so-called elite, mayors, governors and more, are the same. They are not for the people, they are not even for Putin, they are under Putin, God forbid (three times I spit over his shoulder), they will replace him, they will instantly turn their asses under the new government.
      They are all three-party members, first communists, then our house are madmen, now United Russia, they are always the first to cross over to the winners. And lick, lick, lick.
      1. Rider
        Rider 26 February 2014 22: 40
        +1
        Quote: alexbg2
        They are all three-party members, first communists, then our house are madmen, now United Russia,


        at one time there was such a term "Party of power"
        so all this rag-tag can be safely called a "party under power"

        otherwise, I completely agree.
        if tomorrow (the identity of a triple spit), the fascists will take power in the Kremlin, these will immediately begin to ridicule.
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 26 February 2014 16: 42
      0
      Quote: Boris55
      Here are a couple of Judas.
      What sign was sent to the Jews of Ukraine G. Kernes after returning from Geneva:


      The mudra of prana (of life).
      The fulfillment of this mudra evens out the energy potential of the whole organism, contributes to the strengthening of its vitality. Increases working capacity, gives vitality, endurance, improves overall well-being.


      The bifurcated fingers in the picture mean: we surrendered Ukraine, save who can.

      Confirmation of this is the participation of M. Dobkin in the presidential election. This means that they recognized the new government and went over to the side of the Maydan. That is why monuments save in Kharkov, and not the authorities (administrations).


      And what kind of language is this hidden among the Jews?
      Where can I read?

      Doesn't that look like Churchill's V-victory?
  6. Russ69
    Russ69 26 February 2014 11: 26
    +22
    Does hell Ukraine. In Russia itself, enough Russophobes ...
    1. shatu
      shatu 26 February 2014 13: 45
      +11
      You are completely right, the enemy is not just at the gate, the enemy is at home!

      Here, there is an overwhelming desire to integrate into Europe on any conditions, if only the visa regime is facilitated or eliminated.

      Having lived in Kaliningrad for a year and a half, I see the same aspirations here. Russofobov is damn here when the Rospotrebsoyuz banned Lithuanian milk - what kind of howl has risen here, people asking questions that they cannot live without it shut up. Despite the fact that without Lithuanian products there is something to choose. Yes, and in general, here I see admiration for Poland, to a greater extent, and Lithuania, to a lesser extent.

      Russian "Westerners"? Of course, not in such an acute form as in Ukraine, but what will happen in 20 years?
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 26 February 2014 16: 42
        0
        - Do you work for an hour for Aliyev with his Milk JSC? And why is this desire to eat cheaply and deliciously equated to separatism? And in general, where did you come from, Russophile you are?
        1. shatu
          shatu 26 February 2014 17: 38
          +2
          I am Russian. From the Far East "came in large numbers".
          Satisfied with the answer? I have nothing to do with Aliyev, and in general, no office or party. I am on my own.
          I say what I see. All local resources are filled with continuous rubbish - how bad everything is in a single region, and how good the neighbors have. Do you think life in the Far East is very good? Nevertheless, I did not see there signs of such rejection of the holy country.

          cheap and tasty to eat

          The fact of the matter is that only about how "tasty" to devour and think. I am not going to buy Lithuanian chemistry - milk does not sour for weeks, is this normal?
          I take milk from the "Family", and I sour kefir itself - it turns sour within a day, private label, did not even pay attention to who the manufacturer was, the main thing I see is the product without chemistry.

          So, cdrt (comrade below) is still a question who is the enemy of Russia ... or do you mean another country?
          1. saygon66
            saygon66 26 February 2014 18: 19
            +1
            - I love to devour ... I will not hide! But I don’t understand why I should give the earned money to the bunglers ... "Kaliningrad separatism" is a myth created to somehow explain the manifestations of the local population's discontent with the strange policy of the central authorities! Yes, they recognize the region's exceptional geographical position, difficulties with supply and communication, make symbolic gestures of unity with Greater Russia and immediately do everything to put the region in the most severe dependence on the "mainland". Whatever spells are uttered "above" - ​​Kaliningrad is, in fact, a military base surrounded on all sides by a potential enemy. Most of the population is military, active or former, so who are the separatists? Who do we not trust, kefir patriots? It is enough to develop an adequate economic policy in relation to the region, and even the spirit of independence will not remain! Instead, the authorities insist that "Kaliningraders should not have privileges over the rest of the citizens of Russia." And the one who talks about the high cost of fuel and food is a traitor to the Motherland! However, there was an attempt to face the region: There was a project according to which the residents of the region were to be provided with Schengen visas, as well as those who have a business or real estate here. The project failed, and they lost interest in the region - not Sochi, the sea is cold, the weather is bad ... I've been in the region since 94, and let me advise you - communicate more with real people! There is no truth on klops.ru!
            1. shatu
              shatu 26 February 2014 19: 21
              0
              I don’t read klops.ru, I don’t even know what kind of site it is.

              Yes, they recognize the exceptional geographical position of the region, difficulties with supply and communication, make symbolic gestures of unity with Greater Russia

              Here, every word can be applied to the Far East. Yes, the Far East does not like the government either, to put it mildly, but there is no such attitude towards the country as a whole in Kaliningrad. And there, by the way, there is no Europe at hand, where you can hit the weekend to relax and stock up on groceries.
              And I just immediately see the difference in the information background - open, for example, "New Kaliningrad" - positive news 1 to 10, at best - murders, hijacking, rape, drowned people, etc. I just go through the headlines, I don't even want to read this dregs.

              I just wanted to draw attention to the fact that here, in fact, Russia is already losing the information war.
              Lithuanian products, as an example, may have led unsuccessfully - the comments surprised me unpleasantly then, the Russian people defend the state, which spits in our hearts, do not take it for pathos. I apologize for having offended.
              1. saygon66
                saygon66 26 February 2014 19: 42
                +1
                - Not "offended" - "upset" ... so a few ummm ... correct ... And the site you mentioned is colloquially called "newkal" - a conclusion? By the way, about Poland - No, this is not Rio de Janeiro! (C). Maybe further, to the west and richer, and the towns that are closer to us are a continuation of the region ... They envy our salaries, and we envy their prices (and not for everything). By the way, there is such a social phenomenon - in the 90s many people came to the region who wanted to change their permanent residence to Europe. Many, having been "there", remained "here" ... the way of thinking is incompatible, or something ... And please, "don't read local newspapers before dinner" ... wink
                1. shatu
                  shatu 26 February 2014 20: 00
                  0
                  colloquially called "newkal" - a conclusion?

                  Let it be so, I’ve specifically visited Yandex and Google, the five sites are the same (now I understand what kind of bug :)), and so, the headings are essentially the same - solid trash, from a couple dozens of news from all sites in total only 3 positive:
                  "Sports simulators were installed on the promenade in Zelenogradsk"
                  "90 volunteers from Kaliningrad will go to the Paralympics in Sochi"
                  "Festival of Japanese animation has opened in the Kaliningrad cinema"


                  I doubt that normal people have a demand for such dregs.

                  And please, "don't read the local newspapers before dinner."

                  I just don’t read, but these resources are not just in the top, so people read it and I have doubts that such news will make people smile and at least somehow be proud of their country.

                  Those. top informational resources all publish one chernukha, which only confirms that the information war is being waged, and Russia is losing it in this region.
                  1. saygon66
                    saygon66 26 February 2014 20: 15
                    0
                    - Here the situation is something like this: "15% of voters came to the elections, of which 51% voted FOR ... this is the" top "it turns out ... In general, in recent years, the center has often given a reason to say" ... from Nazareth, can there be anything good! "(C). And then," independent, uncontrolled media "is ridiculous ... And if there is no supervision over them, it means that there is no time, or no one needs nafig ...
      2. cdrt
        cdrt 26 February 2014 16: 48
        -2
        Quote: shatu
        You are completely right, the enemy is not just at the gate, the enemy is at home!

        Here, there is an overwhelming desire to integrate into Europe on any conditions, if only the visa regime is facilitated or eliminated.

        Having lived in Kaliningrad for a year and a half, I see the same aspirations here. Russofobov is damn here when the Rospotrebsoyuz banned Lithuanian milk - what kind of howl has risen here, people asking questions that they cannot live without it shut up. Despite the fact that without Lithuanian products there is something to choose. Yes, and in general, here I see admiration for Poland, to a greater extent, and Lithuania, to a lesser extent.

        Russian "Westerners"? Of course, not in such an acute form as in Ukraine, but what will happen in 20 years?


        My dear, the enemy of the country, the people are not these zapadentsy, but YOU. People have a different attitude to the world. And you - because of the stupidity of anyone who disagrees with yours. do the enemy.
        YOU are the source of evil. For in narrow-mindedness you do not recognize the right of other people to see the world differently from you.

        But actually, why should people pay either at a higher price or by changing consumer habits of imperial ambition and inability to negotiate with parts of the former empire of the Russian Foreign Ministry?
        Just wondering? Why was the WB able to leave most of the former colonies as friendly states (although the USSR tried very hard to make them hostile to the WB), but we could not with the fragments of the USSR?
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 26 February 2014 17: 18
          +1
          Quote: cdrt
          Why was the WB able to leave most of the former colonies as friendly states (although the USSR tried very hard to make them hostile to the WB), but we could not with the fragments of the USSR?
          The USSR was in the way, but could not forbid the WB to establish friendly relations with its fragments, and the West was definitely able to do this in the 90s, charging the authorities with a parade of sovereignty within the Russian Federation itself.
        2. shatu
          shatu 26 February 2014 17: 58
          +1
          My dear, the enemy of the country, the people are not these zapadentsy, but YOU ... YOU are the source of evil.

          Announce me as Satan.

          And you - because of the stupidity of anyone who disagrees with yours. do the enemy.

          Ie if I do not agree with your TZ, then I am poor and enemy?
          I have a sharp negative attitude towards our bribe-takers, I don’t idolize Putin, but I don’t understand people who are throwing mud at their country and see everything as a black, but fascist country (but I can’t name Lithuania differently) idolize - idolize the country where Soviet monuments are demolished, humiliate our WWII veterans and simply Russian speakers, i.e. the same scenario that Bandera has already voiced for Ukraine.
    2. polida
      polida 26 February 2014 16: 54
      +1
      Ukraine has shown that "our" officials are standing
  7. Hort
    Hort 26 February 2014 11: 28
    +5
    Here, there is an overwhelming desire to integrate into Europe on any conditions, if only the visa regime is facilitated or eliminated.
    right. And they need this no more no less in order to dump in Europe for permanent residence. True, the fact that they have to dig in does not reach them. And the fact that in the west there are enough of their parasites from Africa, Turkey and Arab countries is also useless to explain
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 26 February 2014 16: 55
      +1
      Quote: hort
      Here, there is an overwhelming desire to integrate into Europe on any conditions, if only the visa regime is facilitated or eliminated.
      right. And they need this no more no less in order to dump in Europe for permanent residence. True, the fact that they have to dig in does not reach them. And the fact that in the west there are enough of their parasites from Africa, Turkey and Arab countries is also useless to explain


      Quote: hort
      Here, there is an overwhelming desire to integrate into Europe on any conditions, if only the visa regime is facilitated or eliminated.
      right. And they need this no more no less in order to dump in Europe for permanent residence. True, the fact that they have to dig in does not reach them. And the fact that in the west there are enough of their parasites from Africa, Turkey and Arab countries is also useless to explain


      It comes.
      And many people dig in.
      Perhaps the point is not that it does not reach, but that in everyday life, European civilization offers a more attractive "picture" than the "spiritual brace" and the bureaucratic-oligarchic regime that our current state regime offers (and actually with this picture everyone associates Russia).

      Fighting these prohibitions will not succeed.
      If only by mass repressions, that with the current birth rate - the path to the death of the nation.

      So ... a more attractive "picture of the future" is needed. Otherwise, we will not hold back not only the Russian world, but also the peoples of the Russian Empire proper.
  8. Duke
    Duke 26 February 2014 11: 30
    +9
    Thanks for the article. We need to hold on to each other tighter.
  9. Gagarin
    Gagarin 26 February 2014 11: 31
    +15
    The air of apparent independence and freedom intoxicated to the loss of reason. Until the people try this mud to their full capacity, until grief grows, they will not change their minds. People rarely learn from the mistakes of others.
  10. Name
    Name 26 February 2014 11: 36
    +2
    We’ll see what they can do in BP; everything that they invented there will soon be redrawn and revised.
  11. predator.3
    predator.3 26 February 2014 11: 36
    +11
    Yes, and we have a lot of such "advanced users" in Russia, yesterday on one site there was a comment of one "victim of the exam", who claims that Bandera's followers are Ostap Bender's fans! fool
  12. polly
    polly 26 February 2014 11: 40
    +11
    "Liberals are stabbing in the back!"
  13. kgbers
    kgbers 26 February 2014 11: 45
    +7
    Therefore, Russia takes a wait-and-see attitude - it was painfully often betrayed by its Slav brothers.
    1. Horst78
      Horst78 26 February 2014 13: 12
      +4
      Quote: kgbers
      Therefore, Russia takes a wait-and-see attitude - it was painfully often betrayed by its Slav brothers.

      Forced to agree. sad
  14. Alexandr 2
    Alexandr 2 26 February 2014 11: 46
    +5
    Bandera villains must live separately.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 26 February 2014 13: 42
      +6
      Bandera villains should live separately ........ but in my opinion: I didn’t look at T. Stalin, I shouldn’t have given 10 years, but for participating in gang formation the highest measure of defense is execution.
    2. cdrt
      cdrt 26 February 2014 16: 57
      0
      Quote: Alexandr 2
      Bandera villains must live separately.


      That, thank God, is not for us to decide.
    3. polida
      polida 26 February 2014 16: 57
      +1
      They will come to you. We must fight with them.
  15. pts-m
    pts-m 26 February 2014 11: 48
    +3
    not invented by us, but said correctly DO NOT REMAIN YOURSELF!
  16. Stinger
    Stinger 26 February 2014 11: 57
    +5
    Clever thought comes afterwards. And who raised this bastard and was silent when they raged for 20 years? How is the world so sons of bitches, but how is war so brothers?
  17. SVD
    SVD 26 February 2014 12: 06
    +11
    Russian in Russia! Kill liberalism on the vine, revive Russian traditions! Liberals beat in the back!

    All liberals must be brought to the root! And the faster the better!
    1. cdrt
      cdrt 26 February 2014 16: 58
      -1
      Quote: SVD
      Russian in Russia! Kill liberalism on the vine, revive Russian traditions! Liberals beat in the back!

      All liberals must be brought to the root! And the faster the better!


      And how do you kindly differ from Bendera?
      In my opinion, just our local form of the same - fascism
  18. Kuvabatake
    Kuvabatake 26 February 2014 12: 08
    +5
    I am not opposed to a fight, but I do not want us to be caught on the backswing again and returned all with apologies to the opposite side, accusing us of all mortal sins ... sad
  19. Val_y
    Val_y 26 February 2014 12: 20
    +6
    Oh, the author is right, oh, how right. We have the same semi-liberals, semi-patriots, cosmopolitans and hrestoprodavtsi on our robot, they argued about this fucking association, they said, "the machines will be better with us," I tell them, "so the industry will be de-industrialized, like in Bulgaria" and they are nonsense enemies Ukraine. We were happy about this Maidan, but when they saw that the Nazis were not going to hand over their weapons, they were attacking everyone in a row, look on YouTube how "Sasha White" came to a meeting of the Rivne Regional Council with AKSU, PM and a bayonet knife, (from the deputies they did it, they were probably happy, what a good patriot laughing ), slightly changed the tonality, closer to whining, (the west will calm them down), I speak as in Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, eh ??? So it will be fun (Crimea is likely to be distant, but what about Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson, Lugansk, Donetsk, Mariupol ???) Is it only "Oplot"
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      26 February 2014 12: 41
      +6
      Val_y

      I don't worry about Crimea, especially for Sevastopol, but for the rest what ...
      1. BYRY
        BYRY 26 February 2014 16: 37
        +3
        That's just for the Crimea and you need to worry. Look what is happening under the Cabinet of Ministers and the Supreme Council. The Tatars themselves are beginning to heat up. What will happen next.
      2. polida
        polida 26 February 2014 16: 59
        -1
        Is everything calm in Lviv ???
        1. Black
          Black 26 February 2014 18: 52
          0
          Quote: polida
          Is everything calm in Lviv ???


          Natasha, did you ask anyone this? What year?
      3. cdrt
        cdrt 26 February 2014 17: 02
        0
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU
        Val_y

        I don't worry about Crimea, especially for Sevastopol, but for the rest what ...


        But I’m on the contrary - it’s for the Crimea.
        There, people clearly showed that many of them want to live and serve Russia.
        Nowhere else.
        Those. Crimeans and Sevastopolites are culturally and even emotionally close to us.
        Here they are ... you can not lose.
        Undecided, they will rush about for another 20-30 years.
        Let them rush around.
        The propaganda of Russian culture and civilization among them, simplified visas there to give, the right to work.
        And yet!
        Until they decide with whom they are.
  20. buzer
    buzer 26 February 2014 12: 22
    +3
    if there are many Russian-speaking Russophobes in Ukraine, then how many people in Russia consider themselves Russian and at the same time have surnames ending in "o" !!! Anything more !!! It seems that the true Russians and Ukrainians survived only here in Kazakhstan ???? Correct me if I'm wrong...
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      26 February 2014 12: 38
      +3
      Quote: buzer
      if there are many Russian-speaking Russophobes in Ukraine, then how many people in Russia consider themselves Russian and at the same time have surnames ending in "o" !!! Anything more !!! It seems that the true Russians and Ukrainians survived only here in Kazakhstan ???? Correct me if I'm wrong...


      Kazakhs differ though visually and traditions from Russians and Ukrainians. But if you put in front of you three young girls: Polish girl, Ukrainian and Russian. And all in modern Western clothes, distinguish? I find it hard to imagine a Russian by nationality - a Kazakh nationalist! wassat even if there is, rare instances.
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    2. Horst78
      Horst78 26 February 2014 13: 15
      +2
      Quote: buzer
      It seems that the true Russians and Ukrainians survived only in Kazakhstan ???? Correct me if I'm wrong...

      Not right. We have much more in Siberia. By the way, I even find it difficult to say how much from Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan specifically to my city moved from the beginning of the 90s. I know that a LOT.
    3. Flooding
      Flooding 26 February 2014 15: 51
      0
      Quote: buzer
      if there are many Russian-speaking Russophobes in Ukraine, then how many people in Russia consider themselves Russian and at the same time have surnames ending in "o" !!! Anything more !!!

      The fundamental difference. Russian of Ukrainian origin (you mean these) is not a vicious nationalist. Unlike those about whom the article is. It is Ukrainian affiliation that obliges from submitting zapadentsev to the obligatory appendage in the form of Russophobia.
    4. polida
      polida 26 February 2014 17: 00
      0
      True husband from Kokchetav
  21. anarh
    anarh 26 February 2014 12: 25
    +7
    So we returned to the crossroads, on which the paths of Galician Rus and simply Rus diverged.
    This is an example of history, which, nevertheless, has an adjective mood.
    Alexander Nevsky - preferred a compromise with the Tatar-Mongols for the preservation of the Orthodox faith, and an uncompromising struggle with Catholicism (at that time an uncompromising enemy of Orthodoxy).
    Danila Galitsky - preferred an allegedly insignificant change in Orthodoxy in exchange for an alliance with Catholic Europe.
    The result of the primacy of faith before matter is on the face.
    The greatest Empire of the world, primarily in the spiritual component.
    And the principality, torn by neighbors.
    Small Russia, unlike Galitskaya, never betrayed the faith of the fathers, and always remained Orthodox.
    And it was this that served as the impetus for falling away from the Commonwealth and
    joining the Russian kingdom.
  22. matross
    matross 26 February 2014 12: 37
    +5
    Killing "liberalism at the root" is possible only together with the liberals. They are afraid of blood, not dirt, for they are dirt. Whoever considers me bloodthirsty, let him review the recent Ukrainian chronicle.
  23. Neophyte
    Neophyte 26 February 2014 12: 38
    +3
    Ukraine needs to go through default and poverty, otherwise anarchy will be
    repeat endlessly.
    1. Skif
      Skif 26 February 2014 15: 26
      0
      Go through it yourself, do not wish others what you do not wish yourself
    2. polida
      polida 26 February 2014 17: 06
      0
      And you went to wish others
  24. EvilLion
    EvilLion 26 February 2014 12: 40
    +1
    There is such grass, nettle is called, it is used for various insanities among young people.
    1. Orik
      Orik 26 February 2014 13: 00
      +2
      Quote: EvilLion
      There is such grass, nettle is called, it is used for various insanities among young people.

      Nettles can not fight ideas ...
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 26 February 2014 13: 06
        +3
        If there were ideas, they would go under the bullets. And so only cowardice.
  25. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 26 February 2014 12: 43
    +5
    More than 20 years of inaction did not work in our favor. Divide and conquer worked. We ourselves are to blame for everything. Now we will be hard and long to restore the lost, and our socio-political situation is not very good to say the least. The oligarchs dictate to the country how to live, and they have never held the word PEOPLE in high esteem. The country needs Joseph Vissarionovich - a STATE GOVERNOR! Only then can we hope for a revival, the current "half measures" will not pull the country out of shit, and practically nothing will help Ukraine.
  26. sinukvl
    sinukvl 26 February 2014 12: 44
    +5
    Good article. And as if summing up.
    1. Goodmen
      Goodmen 26 February 2014 17: 08
      +1
      And here is the Swedish gasket?
      In Ukraine, the last 20 years have been a serious information war aimed at disengaging from Russia. The West, who hates us fiercely, Bandera shortcomings and other Westerners monotonously and practically without encountering resistance led the country to the events we are observing.
      And at that time ... in Russia burdock divided power, people were robbed, and oil and gas were pumped ... Russia was tortured like Ukraine ... Or not? Or are we all right? And national politics too?
      And the implementation of Western and Muslim projects has been going on for a long time ...
      As for the zapadentsev, they are Polish-Romanian-horseradish + some Ukrainians ... Different religions, different roots - this is what we get ... with the connivance of the Russian authorities, because there was no and no responsible authority in Ukraine ... but indeed, as in modern Russia ...
      Three peoples - Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians !!! MUST BE TOGETHER !!! ONE WHOLE !!! RUSICHI !!!
      And small peoples and nationalities inhabiting our common territory, those who are mentally "RUSSIAN" can live in peace, work, create a common HOMELAND, without fear of genocide !!! As it was, is and will be !!!
      BUT FOR THIS IT IS NECESSARY TO FIGHT !!!
      ... under the guidance of Katz (Katz and others like them) it will not work ... as you know, he always offers to give up)))))
      1. Leszik_2283
        Leszik_2283 27 February 2014 21: 31
        0
        Isn’t it all messed up here? Serve the whole world! And wonder about the opinions of the hordes from the east.
    2. Leszik_2283
      Leszik_2283 27 February 2014 21: 27
      -1
      And the Eref flag is tracing paper from the Netherlands. So now, what are all the inhabitants of the Moscow state-to write in gay addicts? So on the paper for the list the whole forest will go away
  27. Cristall
    Cristall 26 February 2014 12: 45
    +5
    The coup was accomplished thanks to passive consent and even moral support due to corruption in the country. Another thing is that no one thought that this path will lead to happiness.
    I still can’t recover from the phrase from Kiev to me from Odessa
    - stop doing garbage, and work better ....
    I already exploded ... called him a gauleiter ...
    1. O_RUS
      O_RUS 26 February 2014 20: 01
      0
      Quote: Cristall
      I still can’t recover from the phrase from Kiev to me from Odessa
      - stop doing garbage, and work better ....


      Great hurt for pride?

      Quote: Cristall
      I already exploded ... called him a gauleiter ...


      well ... labels are not hard to hang
    2. Leszik_2283
      Leszik_2283 27 February 2014 21: 35
      0
      If you don’t work, then what was the Maidan for? Stir for the Eastern neighbors are not asleep! But even if so, there is a plus too - you can stop working, do not rob the main thing about the Maidan wink
  28. loginovich
    loginovich 26 February 2014 12: 49
    +2
    I noticed that the Maidan is divided into Maidan. Turchinov produces Markov. Against whom and with whom will Gosha be friends? ICTV shows a plot where the Western Nazi Fuhrer at a local government meeting with Kalash asks for apartments for the victims of the struggle against the regime, and a few days ago, according to the channel, the villains were only in the shape of a Golden Eagle. It seems that it will be funnier. The circus left, but the clowns remained.
  29. ars_pro
    ars_pro 26 February 2014 12: 51
    0
    In this case, I’m still thinking about paying attention to zygomets, unfortunately they exist and their young generation already exists, which, although it doesn’t work, but by anology with Kiev, do not start this business
  30. Horn
    Horn 26 February 2014 12: 56
    +5
    Russian in Russia! Kill liberalism on the vine, revive Russian traditions! Liberals beat in the back!

    - The perfect truth! From school and kindergarten it is necessary to educate a citizen. And mercilessly suppress Russophobic vys.er.y, such as those recently voiced about the "innate slavery" of the Russians, about the comparison of our veterans with animals (O. Romanova), about the division of Russia. Cruel and merciless! So that diarrhea begins even from Russophobic thoughts, and not just words!
  31. saag
    saag 26 February 2014 13: 03
    0
    Quote: loginovich
    .Turchinov releases Markov

    And this is such a gesture towards Russia, and most likely they will talk through Markov
    1. Citizen7
      Citizen7 26 February 2014 15: 30
      +1
      MARKOV PASAN OF 90 - there is no money - his party of Rodin was plagiarized by the party of Tymoshenko Batkivshchina - he is not about Russian - he is his own
    2. Citizen7
      Citizen7 26 February 2014 15: 31
      0
      there was just a stir that supposedly they let out watered prisoners
  32. Horst78
    Horst78 26 February 2014 13: 04
    +1
    Thank you for the article. Now much becomes clear.
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      26 February 2014 13: 21
      +2
      Quote: Horst78
      Thank you for the article. Now much becomes clear.


      Now we need to develop the right tools and approaches to Ukraine.
      1. Horst78
        Horst78 26 February 2014 14: 15
        +2
        I agree. Do not know what to do with the local Ukrainians. They are just in some sort of apathy, everything that is done in the homeland.
        1. Nevsky_ZU
          26 February 2014 14: 18
          +6
          Quote: Horst78
          I agree. Do not know what to do with the local Ukrainians. They are just in some sort of apathy, everything that is done in the homeland.


          I understand them. When the passport of the Russian Federation is, work, you can fly to Egypt, when a strong President. when cosmodromes are being built and the army is being revived, when you win the Olympics, you are ashamed of the banana Ukraine: ((((
          1. Horst78
            Horst78 26 February 2014 16: 20
            +1
            I was driving home from work and talked to a colleague. She and her husband moved to Russia a few years ago and took citizenship. So she told me "" I am ashamed that I am a Ukrainian. Imagine that the Banderlog has already been done. Our Ukrainians have become ashamed that they are Ukrainians. They are here in Russia Ukrainians are being made ukrofilami (or whatever is right there). They divide everyone everywhere.
          2. polida
            polida 26 February 2014 17: 13
            0
            And I tried to fight ???
  33. Phil
    Phil 26 February 2014 13: 07
    +1
    That maydanutye and others like them when they create a government, which includes the Natsik. Russia certainly money
    He won’t give it, and Western nonsense can only promise candy.
  34. shelva
    shelva 26 February 2014 13: 15
    +2
    Traitors were always worse than enemies.
    1. alexbg2
      alexbg2 26 February 2014 13: 24
      0
      Quote: shelva
      Traitors were always worse than enemies.

      The phrase can even be shortened to: "There have always been traitors."
      Only the fewer the better.
  35. saag
    saag 26 February 2014 13: 26
    +1
    tomorrow there will be a presentation of new ministers, i.e. the cabinet is formed and then they will start asking for money, hinting that Russia of the type promised and that the type of agreement was concluded not with an individual, but with a whole country
  36. vsdvs
    vsdvs 26 February 2014 13: 34
    +3
    I read about Ukraine, and all the time I think about "Russian" hamsters-white tape. One to one.
  37. reality
    reality 26 February 2014 13: 58
    +6
    People pouring mud on their homeland, I suggest you experiment! Come home, spit in the face of your mother, cover her. Then close your eyes and feel like a hero, a fighter, relish this feeling! Then, open your eyes, and ask your mother - did your act help make her life better, rethink yourself, and be imbued with faith in a brighter future?
  38. Andrey L
    Andrey L 26 February 2014 14: 09
    +10
    Quote: sergey32
    Maybe the air of Ukraine is saturated with betrayal?
    Recently, Dugin said - there was not a single hetman who would not betray Russia, even Khmelnitsky. I am silent about the current hetmans, with their direct participation brainwashed the young generation.

    Yes, something like this ..: "There were cases when Moscow severely read the Cossacks of their treason; Prince G. G. Romodanovsky delivered a particularly powerful speech in 1668 at the Glukhov Rada. In response to the petty officer's request for the withdrawal of the sovereign military men from Little Russian cities, he asked bluntly: "What guarantee will you give that there will be no betrayal in the future?" The hetman and the foreman were silent about this. "And before that there were agreements," said Romodanovsky, "before the Holy Gospel they were strengthened with their souls, and what? Did Ivashka Vygovsky, Yuraska Khmelnitsky, Ivashka Bryukhovetsky observe them? Seeing such treason on your part, why believe? ... "Among the large number of betrayals, the Konotop and Poltava battles stand out. In the Battle of Konotop (1659), having entered into allied relations with the Poles and Tatars and having a significant numerical superiority, the composers captured a detachment of 5000 people under the leadership of Prince S. R Pozharsky The prince was executed for his violent behavior (he spat in the face of the khan); the rest of the Russian prisoners were taken to the field by the Cossacks and slaughtered.
  39. Nika
    Nika 26 February 2014 14: 11
    -3
    Alexander, you know, very much cuts your perception "they began to open criminal cases against those who set fire to the political Bandera offices" (c)
    Crime, and arson is a crime, must be punished.
    Another question is that the opposite crime should be punished when property is being smashed about Russian-minded people and organizations.
    Isn’t it more logical to write that the second crimes are in no hurry to investigate, but not that you do not need to be punished for setting fire to a building, which, incidentally, may well be residential - we like to rent the ground floors for offices?

    As for the Russian Bandera. Yes, unfortunately you are right and there are such people. And somehow it’s not very good from this. Allegedly, alas.
    But there are also people smashing a trolleybus (stones at windows, etc.), to which, as it seemed to them, Ukrainian Banderaites who had come to oppress my southern city sat down.
    What do you call these?
    What to call those who “heroically”, on a drunken courage, demolished a monument to Lenin, but today are embarrassed to admit that they did it?
    How embarrassing to behold this ... there should be an epithet, but I can’t pick it up.

    PS EU flag? What crimes are these? Or glitches?
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      26 February 2014 14: 40
      +2
      Alexander, you know, very much cuts your perception "they began to open criminal cases against those who set fire to the political Bandera offices" (c)


      Actually, my name is not Alexander. I recommend that you still read the publication: Pusskys have missed their chance without imposing their agenda on Maidan to Yanukovych... And then play the lady "justice"
      1. Nika
        Nika 26 February 2014 14: 57
        0
        Sorry, missed it.

        I will definitely read it. And I will even comment if I have something to say. Was there "our scouts and their spies" in action?
        Why give them a chance by doing so?

        And I play mistress justice at work. I sit and play, thinking about how I will save the archive, if anything. And "what" has long been promised. Only earlier the degree of inadequacy was lower.
      2. rolik2
        rolik2 26 February 2014 15: 36
        0
        ______________
      3. polida
        polida 26 February 2014 17: 16
        0
        You have a choice either in Russia or there - and there is nothing to cry
  40. stillrat
    stillrat 26 February 2014 14: 34
    +1
    A good, strong dictatorship is what they really need. In any situation, they will clean their brains.
  41. svp67
    svp67 26 February 2014 14: 38
    +1
    Who are the Russian-speaking Bandera in Ukraine?
    "Right Sector" is mostly a group of football fans - ultras !!! And already now, many experts, analyzing their actions, come to the conclusion that they are acting on a specific order and on the money of a certain part of the Ukrainian oligarchic society ... They are not disinterested, modern "passionaries" ...
    1. nikcris
      nikcris 26 February 2014 15: 29
      0
      Yes? And I thought that the organized crime group ... And then there’s a kag - football fans. Can you tell me who Lviv is rooting for today?
      1. svp67
        svp67 26 February 2014 23: 02
        0
        Quote: nikcris
        And I thought that the organized crime group ... And then there’s a kag - football fans.


        According to journalists, the group unites several radical right-wing organizations, in particular, Patriot of Ukraine (founded in 1996 as the youth wing of the Social-National Party; the initial leader is A. Parubiy), Trizub, SNA, UNA-UNSO, White Hammer [4] [K 1], "Carpathian Sich" and other ultra-right groups from all over Ukraine [12]. She lacks a clear management structure and formal leaders; coordination of actions occurs through social networks and mobile communications.
        In Kiev, the backbone of the group consists of football fans who hold extremist nationalist views. The information channels of the Right Sector are the website of the Trident organization [13], as well as their own pages on Facebook and Vkontakte.
        According to Dmitry Yarosh, "Right Sector" concentrated in its hands a whole arsenal of weapons, which "is enough to protect the whole of Ukraine from internal invaders." During the confrontation with the forces of law and order, the Right Sector militants used batons, cobblestones, Molotov cocktails and even throwing machines built on the model of medieval siege weapons [7]. On January 30, representatives of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, referring to the activist’s video recognition, said that Right Sector militants had firearms, which were allegedly delivered to Maidan in parts, hidden in loaves of bread [11].
        From the beginning of the events on Euromaidan, the headquarters was located in the "House of Trade Unions", after the fire it was located in the October Palace - but after crowding out the Berkut government unit, the headquarters of the group was located in the occupied building of the Main Post Office. [14]
        The head of the Kiev cell PS is Igor Mazur
  42. pogis
    pogis 26 February 2014 15: 10
    +2
    In the distant 1988, my colleague from Chernivtsi said that he wanted to change the column in the passport from Russian to Ukrainian after the demobilization. Not today it started!
    1. nikcris
      nikcris 26 February 2014 15: 40
      +2
      Better even more globally: Brazilian, Honduran, North American, South African.
  43. edeligor
    edeligor 26 February 2014 15: 15
    +3
    Many thanks to the author of the article, laid out as on the maps! The most important thing made it clear how the psychology of zapadentsev differs from the column of Russian liberals. In reality, this office plankton of Russian liberals does not even imagine what it is like to pick up burghers or pick oranges in Sicily. But the most beautiful thing is about barbecue, fishing and about the neighbors who report to you on the helpline. Even now I’m writing, I’m already sick of such a prospect. And yet - the coup detonator in Ukraine is Lviv and nearby regions, this is a cancer cell that we brought into our body. I hope the disease has not gone far and it is operable. (in the literal sense, who knows he will understand)
    1. Horn
      Horn 27 February 2014 09: 14
      +1
      My cousin brother bought a cottage near Duisburg. Lena, his wife, planted a tomato onion. The schutzman came and said: "No way! You can only have a lawn-flowers. But buy vegetables and fruits in the store!" Here is such a naked truth.
      1. shatu
        shatu 27 February 2014 12: 18
        0
        Quote: Horn
        And buy fruits and vegetables in the store!

        I wanted to somehow taste the feathers of the beam. And since I go to a modern store, like to the enemy rear, because solid chemistry, and my health is dear to me, then I decided to grow the old fashioned way, remember how they used to grow in jars? I did it, and what do you think, it’s already been 3 weeks, the roots have waved hoo-hoo, it barely fits in the bank, but there is no greenery!

        And these young people with their GMOs will still argue that otherwise there simply will not be enough food for humanity and only this will bother them! Soon it will be so - I did not have time to crack the ghastly muck within an hour, go back to the store, because this one will rot in an hour.
  44. Diter
    Diter 26 February 2014 15: 23
    +1
    It is my deepest conviction to hope for building a strong economy and gaining political independence with amer's help is not just stupidity, it is a symptom. I advise you to search the net and read "Perkins John. Confessions of an economic killer" - royallib.ru
  45. nikcris
    nikcris 26 February 2014 15: 26
    0
    Quote: Per se.
    Quote: AVV
    More than twenty years, some continuous fights on TV in parliament, it would not be better to divorce peacefully like Czechs with Slovaks !!!
    Czechs and Slovaks are not a threat to the West, the same Hitler gladly included Czechoslovakia in the Third Reich.

    Hitler didn’t turn on any Czechoslovakia anywhere. Turn on the brain, turn on the computer (if you can click on the buttons) and make sure of this through Yandex or Google.
    PS Included Poland and Hungary if Sto love
  46. innei
    innei 26 February 2014 15: 36
    0
    Quote: sscha
    Moreover, Yarosh banderlog plans to separate three regions from Russia, which he considers Ukrainian !!! am
    ZY Read on "Military materials" hi

    He will plan it. Apparently forgot what the fate of Bender ended.
  47. Citizen7
    Citizen7 26 February 2014 15: 37
    +1
    I subscribe to the article all this way - to planting
  48. Skif
    Skif 26 February 2014 15: 47
    +2
    It is good to write on the forum how to live in Ukraine from afar (not all, but many comments). In one thing I agree - there is no place for banders and fascist henchmen. But what can an ordinary citizen of Ukraine do now? Come out with a banner about rejection of the current rotten "power"? Yes, they will be thrown in like "me" and will not sneeze! (If not dunk). Normal people, living from paycheck to paycheck, CANNOT wander around the Maidans ... There is no normal political force, there is no leader that would lead the East along ... The West has been sponsoring the West for decades, Russia, unfortunately, did not bother with this, so result, soon NATO will be at the borders
  49. demotivator
    demotivator 26 February 2014 16: 20
    +3
    Quote: Boris55
    This means that they recognized the new government and went over to the side of the Maidan.

    So it is - they crossed over, like many others like them. Opponents of Euromaidan gathered in front of the Kharkiv city administration almost beat the city's mayor Gennady Kernes (known by his criminal past as "Hepa"), who was trying to rip off the Russian flag, which the protesters hoisted instead of the European Union. Taking into account the characteristic appearance of Kernes, reminiscent of an anti-Semitic caricature from a Nazi leaflet, the scene turned out to be clearly inciting ethnic hatred, and they went to beat Gepu. The militiamen barely managed to drag the mayor who was screaming about provocations into the building, and the flag remained hanging in place. Kernes, who at first declared the need to fight the Maydauns and gathered a congress of pro-Russian deputies of the South-East in Kharkov, then quickly went over to the side of the new government, thereby becoming one of the symbols of corruption among many of Yanukovych's fellow associates.
  50. tank64rus
    tank64rus 26 February 2014 16: 29
    +1
    And this is a document for these traitors, if they fought for it. As evidenced by the declassified WikiLeaks documents, a Ukrainian interlocutor of the American ambassador John Tefft prepared a program for the development of Ukrainian reforms and handed it over to the United States. Those, in turn, approved and handed over this program to the IMF, which insisted on them both on the condition that Ukraine received a loan, Ukrainian News reports.
    According to WikiLeaks, this list of reforms - recommendations to Ukraine includes the following:
    1. Raise the retirement age - by two years for men, by three - for women. Eliminate the right to early retirement and the principle of counting a year in two at hazardous enterprises.
    2. Eliminate the institution of special pension benefits, which are allocated to scientists, civil servants, managers of state enterprises. Limit pensions to working pensioners. Set the retirement age to army officers in 60 years.
    3. Increase the price of gas for municipal enterprises by 50%, twice for private consumers. Increase the cost of electricity by 40%. Allow pricing utilities. Allow price increases according to gas prices. Increase the excise on gasoline to 60 euros.
    4. Cancel benefits and increase transport taxes by 50%. Do not raise the cost of living, balance the social situation at the expense of point subsidies.
    5. Privatize all mines and abolish all subsidies. Cancel benefits for utilities, transport, and more. The abolition of state support for free food, textbooks.
    6. Limit the practice of simplified taxation. Abolish the practice of VAT exemption in rural areas. Oblige pharmacies and pharmacists to pay VAT.
    7. Cancel the moratorium on the sale of agricultural land. Eliminate subsidies for pork and chicken producers.
    8. Reduce the composition of ministries to 14. Leave only one deputy prime minister. To abolish the post of Minister of Cabinet Ministers. Subordinate all state bodies to ministries. The tax administration, customs, and the State Property Fund should be included in the Ministry of Finance.
    9. Limit excessive wages of public officials.
    10. Unemployment benefits should be accrued only after a minimum period of six months of work. Pay sick leave at the level of 70% of the salary, but not lower than the subsistence level. Pay sick leave only from the third day of illness.
    Earlier it was suggested that the former ambassador to the US Embassy in Ukraine, in this case, as in a number of other reports of the US embassy in Ukraine, could be ex-finance minister Viktor Pynzenyk.