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Kim Jong-un and the “concoctions of scum”

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In recent days, several events have occurred in and around North Korea that gave rise to this review. First, Russia was going to forgive the DPRK Soviet debts, as much as ten billion dollars (they were found to be hopeless, and now the State Duma will begin consideration of the relevant bill on write-off). Secondly, on February 12-14, high-level talks were held between North and South Korea, and on February 20-23 families met at the border, separated by the Korean War. Thirdly, 24 in February, the United States and Young Korea launched large-scale two-month military exercises, which, by the way, will carry out Pyongyang’s storming. Fourth, the UN international commission issued a report on crimes committed by the DPRK authorities against humanity. Fifthly, the DPRK government criticized the report in its corporate style, calling the 372 text pages distortion of the “true picture” and “fabrications, deliberately fabricated by enemy forces and rabble.”




19 February it became known that the Russian government submitted to the State Duma a bill to write off the debt accumulated in the DPRK. We are talking about ten billion dollars. Another billion dollars in the DPRK will not be written off, but they will be asked to return it in the next twenty years, and then Russia will pledge to invest it in the North Korean communist economy. A quotation from the explanatory note to the draft law: “The amounts sent by the DPRK to repay the debt are to be used for financing projects in the field of health, education, and energy in the DPRK as agreed by the parties.”

The DPRK has accumulated these Soviet debts arising from active military-technical cooperation with the USSR for almost forty years. In market times, that is, from the rule of Yeltsin and still, negotiations were held on the so-called "debt settlement". Of course, there was no point in these negotiations. Initially it was clear that the Korean leaders would not give anything. In addition, we all have become accustomed to the fact that the “settlement” in the Aesopian diplomatic language is called preparation for the complete or almost complete cancellation of debts. Korea is not the only "forgiven" country. Last year alone, Russia forgave large debts to Kyrgyzstan and Cuba. The last debt, partially restructured, was already 30 billion dollars. By forgiving debts Moscow improves relations with debtor countries. Regarding the DPRK, the Kremlin declares: writing off debts will improve relations between Russia and the DPRK.

Improving relations is also achieved through humanitarian assistance. 7 February, the press reported that in 2014, North Korea would receive thousands of tons of grain from Russia as part of humanitarian aid from Russia. In addition, the DPRK received from the Russian Federation three medical modules with medicines, supplies, medical equipment and instruments for surgical operations and further treatment for a total of 50 thousand euros. Russia also supplied the North Koreans about 50 thousand tons of wheat flour (humanitarian aid through the UN World Food Program).

In the meantime, human rights violations in the DPRK were studied at the UN. The other day the press presented a report of the United Nations Commission, which noted that the leadership of the DPRK could be brought to an international court on charges of crimes against humanity. The government of Kim Jong-un is accused of torture, massacres, violence against women, children, forced abortions, we are also talking about concentration camps, slave labor and the like. The commission worked for a whole year (with lunch breaks and weekends), and here’s the result - three hundred and seventy-two pages of charges. Tribunal smacks. Moreover, the 372 pages, prepared to be sent by mail to the leader of the North Korean communists, were added: they wrote on it that Kim Jong-un was personally responsible for all the crimes. The main person on the commission, Michael Kirby, wrote the following: “Any official of the DPRK who orders crimes against humanity, commits them or assists them, falls under criminal responsibility in accordance with international law.”

The North Korean government immediately replied to the received mail. The propaganda machine applied its favorite style. Something stylistically similar was popular in the USSR when it came in newspapers about the plans of world imperialists, who extended their dirty hands, for example, to fraternal free Cuba.

The DPRK authorities' response to the UN report was published by the Korean State Central Telegraph Agency. Here is the main message to the UN: "The report distorts the true picture of the people of Korea enjoying true freedoms and is spiced with outright lies and fabrications, deliberately fabricated by enemy forces and rabble, such as elements of dubious origin, who fled from the North."

In addition, the North Korean government advised no longer the United Nations, but the United States not to stick their heads in the affairs of others and go on to study the issue of human rights violations in their own country.

“The so-called investigation commission was craftily drafted last year by the United States and its cronies ... and we never even recognized the fact of its existence,” the Interfax official quoted the words of the DPRK MFA official.

Yes, let us add, the UN has long become an American puppet. Ban Ki-moon's recent Olympic sermon on homosexuals is an excellent confirmation of this.

North Korea is hardly a heavenly place. However, how much can you believe the speakers? It turns out that in the DPRK members of the commission were not even allowed! They had to go to South Korea, where in front of them (publicly) three dozen of some witnesses, whose past has not been verified, appeared before them. And why check, if the findings of the report are certainly set in advance. At least, it’s naive to blame one Kim Jong-un — he is not an angel, but he wouldn’t have been able to do enough work in the short time of his reign to cover the 372 page plus the accompanying text.

Kim Jong-un, like any other political figure, be it Obama, Putin or Nicholas Maduro, whoever you want, requires an objective approach to himself. Especially when it comes to the investigation. The United States and its puppet structure - the UN - has long neglected objectivity. Assad is the poisoner of his people, despite the evidence to the contrary, Putin is a tyrant, thief, gangster and occupier of Ukraine, Maduro is the oppressor and enemy of “free enterprise”, and Obama is the torch of exceptional power, assuring the entire planet that the unrest in Kiev is sign of democracy.

By the way, China has already stated that it objects to the consideration of the “DPRK case” at the International Criminal Court and promised to veto a relevant resolution in the UN Security Council.

Therefore, it turns out that commission members in vain received a salary for a whole year.

And if to be objective, earlier, on February 12-14, on the border of two divided Koreas, high-level negotiations were held - the first with 2007 of the year. The Republic of Korea was represented by the head of the Secretariat of the National Security Council at the government of Kim Kyu Hyun, and the DPRK was represented by the deputy head of the United Front, Won Don Yong. At the talks, among other things, the question of organizing regular meetings of families separated by the Korean War was discussed. The meeting was organized at the initiative of the DPRK and was positively assessed by the international community.

20-22 February already had the first meetings of divided families.

According to Voice of America, the meetings took place in the Kumgansan Mountains in the DPRK. Only for the first day, the 82 citizen of South Korea and 180 of their North Korean relatives took part in them. Such meetings were not held for more than three years, repeatedly canceled due to political tensions. The February meetings were also almost canceled - due to the perturbations of the DPRK in connection with the upcoming military exercises of South Korea and the United States.

These joint exercises started on February 24 and will continue until the end of April. More than 12,5 thousand American servicemen take part in the maneuvers. A statement by the United States-South Korean Command, which leads the BBC, said that Key Resolve, a computer simulation of the fighting, as well as Foal Eagle, would take part in the exercises, "Ground Resolve", sea ​​forces. The United States and South Korea insist that the exercises are defensive in nature, and Pyongyang calls the maneuvers "exercises for war." On the South Korean side, around 10 thousand soldiers participate in the exercises. At the end of the exercise, Barack Obama will arrive in Kazakhstan.

Speaking about the "teachings for war", Pyongyang, of course, uses propaganda. Meanwhile, in March, in the framework of the “Foal Eagle” exercises, it is planned to work out a landing on the eastern coast of the DPRK and even a throw on Pyongyang. The Key Resolve exercises also provide for some “emergencies” in the DPRK and response actions. Basically we are talking about potential nuclear threats.

And another one news from the DPRK. Kim Jong-un reluctantly went towards progress. DPRK residents are not allowed to use the Internet, but now, probably, an exception will be made. Two dozen computers with access to the World Wide Web will appear in the Kaesong industrial zone: it is much more convenient for companies to communicate with their neighbors from South Korea via the Internet rather than use telephones and faxes. It is still difficult to say whether 20 workers who work in joint ventures are “morally decomposed” by 44000 computers with access to the network, since the project is only being worked out.

All these events suggest that Kim Jong-un softens both domestic and foreign policy. Undoubtedly, the political decisions of the neighbors around the planet — for example, the Russian decisions on humanitarian aid and on the imminent forgiveness of major debts — are inclining toward such a “softness” of the North Korean leader. Undoubtedly, the DPRK is also pleased with the Chinese statement about a possible veto on a resolution in the UN Security Council on a report on the violation of human rights in North Korea.

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  1. dojjdik
    dojjdik 26 February 2014 07: 52
    +7
    a new attempt to embroil us with the Koreans - and how many billions the newly-minted "democrats" took out of the USSR during the mess of the 90s, did the author also calculate or not?
    1. Canep
      Canep 26 February 2014 08: 09
      -3
      Quote: dojjdik
      new attempt to quarrel us with the Koreans

      And we need to baptize children with them. An odious regime and a leader killing relatives in a power struggle. South Korea with an American base is prettier to me.
      1. dojjdik
        dojjdik 26 February 2014 09: 23
        +1
        so bring down your southern correa; ktozh holds you here
        1. Doctorleg
          Doctorleg 26 February 2014 09: 53
          +7
          Are you in North?
        2. Canep
          Canep 26 February 2014 10: 12
          +8
          Quote: dojjdik
          so bring down your southern correa; ktozh holds you here

          To begin, let's agree that I will live wherever I want. And then why don’t you yourself go to your DPRK for permanent residence ?, but prefer Russia. This is, firstly, and secondly, what the DPRK can give us besides problems. We will never receive the money poured there, we do not need bases on their territory, weakening South Korea will not give us anything. The existence of the DPRK, which was militarized to the limit, gives the United States an occasion to keep quite a large contingent on the territory of South Korea and Japan. Note Americans, if desired, could have destroyed this regime for a long time, but so far there has not been a single attempt to do so. I think the Chinese are also not enthusiastic about the DPRK, otherwise they would not have kept a large military force on its border. The Chinese are much more active in trading with the South Caucasus than with the DPRK, mainly humanitarian aid goes there.
          1. Ximik-degozator
            Ximik-degozator 26 February 2014 14: 12
            +6
            Why is the epithet "regime" used only for states that are hostile to the West? Why don't we say "Obama regime", "Elizabeth II regime" ?!
            1. atalef
              atalef 26 February 2014 14: 33
              +2
              Quote: Ximik-degozator
              Why is the epithet "regime" used only for states that are hostile to the West? Why don't we say "Obama regime", "Elizabeth II regime" ?!

              Because they always said - the Western system and the socialist camp.
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            3. Canep
              Canep 26 February 2014 16: 58
              +1
              Quote: Ximik-degozator
              Why is the epithet "regime" used only for states hostile to the West?

              Why ?, in Saudi Arabia the regime is even better than the DPRK.
      2. aktanir
        aktanir 26 February 2014 09: 39
        +6
        If you try to judge objectively, this is where the influence of our world star-striped gendarme is now necessary, so it is in North Korea. Actually, the residents there are sorry. Look, in any photographs, including official ones - they go in what people went in the 70s. There is no Internet access, no world information, ordinary people suffer from a lack of food, modern medical care, all those things that we have been using for decades. There is really a collective farm. And instead of climbing where it is not necessary - to Ukraine, Syria, etc., it would be better to get into this North Korea, clean the regime, and simply help ordinary people to live humanly. Then they would unite the two Koreas, but live happily ever after. Why the hell Russia support Kim Jong-un do not understand. No economic privileges are worth it. Happiness cannot be built on someone else’s misfortune. In general, what a nonsense: forgive ten billion to give another 10, and then forgive them ???? !!!! ...........
        1. Astartes
          Astartes 26 February 2014 12: 24
          +3
          You cannot judge objectively, simply because all the information about North Korea is gathered from the United States and South Korean information trough. Well, the calls to cleanse the power of North Korea, instead of protecting the Russians of Ukraine, is generally a masterpiece of betrayal.
        2. Uncle
          Uncle 26 February 2014 12: 41
          +5
          Quote: aktanir
          Actually, the residents there are sorry.

          Quote: aktanir
          No internet access

          No Internet! What a sorrow! In general, there are no democratic values, including homosexuals, drug addicts, debauchery ... How do they live there? Probably, as in monasteries, they work from morning to night, only they pray not to God and Kim.
        3. Jager
          Jager 26 February 2014 18: 45
          +2
          I advise you to go somewhere in our Russian outback, for example in Vologda. And see what kind of "real collective farm" is going on there. North Korea is the beacon of civilization by comparison.
          Yes, why in Vologda - but at least near Shatura, Moscow region. The village is still on wood, there is no gas and will not be. Like the Internet, medical care and other benefits of large cities.
          The North Koreans have a national IDEA - albeit perverted to the limit, but at least some. Israel has, the United States. And we have? Except "steal-run" did not see.
          1. Kir
            Kir 26 February 2014 19: 07
            -1
            Everything is true except for one:
            ...... national IDEA - even if perverted to the limit, ......
            About sga nat idea ?, hmm ........ rather, the interests of corporations presented by the media of disinformation as a defense of the nazinteres (it is interesting, but the Indians are aware that they are so worried about them?).
          2. clidon
            clidon 26 February 2014 19: 37
            0
            That is, there, too, from corn-millet to rice are interrupted? And on holidays, fish, for large meat.
            I saw how they live in villages, they would seem rich places to northerners.
            1. Kir
              Kir 26 February 2014 20: 51
              +2
              Apparently, examples such as the Second World War are not for you? Then, if not beguiled, Korea has always not been distinguished by luxury, as an indicator there is such a thing when Children were written at once age 2! years (they believed that at least this would be protected), since there was an extremely high mortality rate for Children under the age of 1 year, and forgive me, not under the "dynasty" of Kims.
              1. clidon
                clidon 26 February 2014 21: 57
                +1
                That is, a feudal idea with obsolete deified leaders, is this the idea for which hundreds of thousands of people should die? Are you sure that the northerners deserve this? Would you yourself like to believe in such an Idea and live like that?
                1. Kir
                  Kir 27 February 2014 16: 54
                  0
                  probably not with bread and salt to meet the occupants ........... but about hundreds of thousands of dead. We kind of like in the GULAG, the same ........., lying and manipulating someone is no stranger to, and the story is, as they say, predavaya (see hertsenyh and others like that, and dig in and before). And with regards to who deserved what. yes it is true The people and their Idea did not deserve all those vile cries from certain "citizens".
          3. Barrcode
            Barrcode 27 February 2014 00: 30
            0
            Quote: Jager
            The North Koreans have a national IDEA - albeit perverted to the limit, but at least some. Israel has, the United States. And we have? Except "steal-run" did not see.


            Our constitution, written under the dictation of Western "well-wishers", clearly states that there can be no national idea in Russia. Until they make changes to the constitution "steal and run" and will remain.
            I believe that you cannot forgive debts! The duty "does not ask for food." If South Korea, with the support of the United States and Japan, seizes Pyongyang, then they can be invoiced.
            Rapprochement with North Korea is not necessary, especially by way of forgiving debts and even more so now. And then they already won’t stir up:


            And on the account of human rights resolutions, they have long been written to please the United States.
        4. Turik
          Turik 27 February 2014 12: 05
          +1
          And instead of climbing where it’s not necessary — to Ukraine, Syria, etc., we’d better get into this North Korea and clear the regime


          You are forgetting the words of one American general: "A territory is considered captured only when the eggs of our soldiers are hanging over it."

          Not even planes! Bomb bomb, so what? I do not think that the lives of ordinary citizens will change much after that, but SUCH an army is simply impossible to simply crush from the air. burrow underground, go into the mountains and build a second Vietnam, or maybe even worse.
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      3. mirag2
        mirag2 26 February 2014 15: 55
        +1
        "I'm Korean":
      4. Antiquetoy
        Antiquetoy 27 February 2014 12: 09
        +1
        I was always wondering - why does our country always make friends with poor, totalitarian and underdeveloped countries? At the same time, it also forgives them billions of dollars in debt ..
    2. Stalnov I.P.
      Stalnov I.P. 26 February 2014 09: 47
      +6
      Obama is a light, this candle is so burning that for a long time good firefighters need to extinguish the "black-browed light", the DPRK of the fellow sent the Americans along with their suckers from the UN to hell. Well done, we would have to stand so firmly, otherwise we breed wuxi with them. pusi.
      1. GELEZNII_KAPUT
        GELEZNII_KAPUT 26 February 2014 10: 14
        +6
        Quote: I.P. Stalnov.
        Obama is a light, this candle is so burning that for a long time good firefighters need to extinguish the "black-browed light", the DPRK of the fellow sent the Americans along with their suckers from the UN to hell. Well done, we would have to stand so firmly, otherwise we breed wuxi with them. pusi.

        The states are furious that there is no such access to the DPRK, and you won’t be able to arrange Maidan there, or rather you won’t arrange at least 30 years in the coming years!
  2. Renat
    Renat 26 February 2014 08: 03
    +3
    They laid eyes on the DPRK in South Korea. The president has set up a Korean reunification committee.
    1. ikken
      ikken 26 February 2014 08: 26
      +2
      It would be what to lay eyes on. There is such a difference in living standards that the Germans were almost equal against their background. According to their most optimistic forecasts (in the case of Samsung), in the event of a merger right now it will take about 50 years to bridge the gap in living standards, and all this time the Korean economy will be at the level of Algeria.
      1. Renat
        Renat 26 February 2014 13: 31
        0
        This is how to look. How much almost free if not highly skilled labor.
        1. ikken
          ikken 26 February 2014 17: 14
          +2
          And why do the yugas need this? They won in the first place in terms of relative robotic industry. They have nowhere to put their unskilled, they still have to figure out how to occupy the wild northerners.

          And in general, you talk about the attitude of the south towards the northerners as "Potomac Truth" about the attitude of the Russians towards the Ukrainians.
  3. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 26 February 2014 08: 11
    +2
    An invasion or a Korean Maidan is being prepared - the model of changing undesirable regimes for the United States and NATO has justified itself and the experience has already been gained. Shaking power in the DPRK, and then bringing in "peacekeeping troops" is easy, this is at any time, with all due respect. Only if it is not possible to shake it, you will have to gnaw mountains and rocks in order to reach factories and weapons depots, in order to pick out DPRK soldiers from dugouts and bunkers in order to suppress the positions of MLRS and missiles. This threatens with gigantic losses, but the "democratic forces" in the world have been preparing for this hour of X for almost half a century. Of course, in the DPRK, human rights are on the 5th plane, but what if they understand that in the event of a transition to "democracy", all resources will go away "winners", and the population, following the example of the European-integrated fragments of the USSR, will become impoverished even more, and factories and ships will go to the west. The world banking system of the USA - Europe needs new victims, due to the plundering of which they will last another year or two at the current level, without changing their models and robbing the world.
    1. Canep
      Canep 26 February 2014 08: 30
      +4
      Quote: mojohed2012
      model of change of objectionable regimes for the USA and NATO

      Well, they will definitely not touch the DPRK. Otherwise, then what will it justify its military presence in the region. Natural resources are not there, but hungry mouths are excessive. I think they will allow the DPRK to exist for as long as Kim Jong-un himself can hold onto power.
    2. Nayhas
      Nayhas 26 February 2014 08: 43
      +5
      Quote: mojohed2012
      The invasion is preparing or the Korean Maidan

      South Koreans will never invade the north. Maidan in the DPRK is not possible a priori. Only DPRK can change the DPRK. By the way, the author listing military exercises at the borders of the DPRK somehow forgot the recent exercises of the Chinese army, which also took place at the borders of the DPRK only in the north. The scale is not comparable with the pathetic attempts of Americans and Koreans. More than 200 thousand troops participated! But the DPRK is absolutely not protected from an attack from the north, it is impossible to stop the attack on Pyongyang from the north. By the way, after this, the DPRK suddenly decided to hold a meeting of separated relatives ...
      1. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 26 February 2014 09: 59
        +2
        Do not tell. If Ukraine is restrained, if Syria does not fall and the Americans get the nose again, it is possible that they will try to exchange the last of the trump cards - try to seize the DPRK under any pretext. Otherwise, how to justify their bestial actions in the world and their presence in South Korea and in Japan? The simple Japanese are already systematically protesting against finding Amer military bases in them. Vedas bases in Japan and Korea are reachable for both Iran and DPRK missiles. Having worked the DPRK, we can assume that China no longer has an ally and a cover territory (foreskin) for the deployment of mobilization with the outbreak of any war. We must also not forget that the Chinese have no serious combat experience and this reminds many experts of the situation with the Red Army in June-August 1941, when our command, having no experience, could not plan and organize an effective counterattack, not having patches, holes in defense. Therefore, China may not have time to mobilize according to the degree of effective opposition to the states and their puppets. North Korea is another fragment of the Soviet global system of counteraction to the United States. He, like Cuba, is still holding on and responding with not entirely effective propaganda to propaganda of the states and Kazakhstan.
    3. largus886
      largus886 26 February 2014 09: 26
      0
      OH WELL!
    4. Doctorleg
      Doctorleg 26 February 2014 09: 55
      0
      Yes Yes! South Korea is a prime example!
    5. vova1973
      vova1973 26 February 2014 15: 23
      +1
      Yes, there are no minerals in North Korea, so the costs of overthrowing the regime will not pay off.
  4. Name
    Name 26 February 2014 08: 31
    +2
    We are waiting for the next messages from KIM-3. "Decisions" of the State Duma does not solve anything, de facto everything has been decided long ago .... If the photo is for a passport, I would not have missed ... a wig, however.
  5. ReifA
    ReifA 26 February 2014 08: 33
    +14
    It's strange why my bank does not behave like that - "To improve relations with clients, we write off all your debts by 95%. Pay the remaining 5%, without reference to anything, for 20 years."
    That would be happiness.
    1. Name
      Name 26 February 2014 08: 53
      0
      Collectors bully DPRK debts do not want to buy, do not have time to do it yourself.
      1. largus886
        largus886 26 February 2014 09: 23
        +1
        And the bastards do not open the door to collectors and do not fit the phone!
  6. Nayhas
    Nayhas 26 February 2014 08: 34
    +1
    It's about ten billion dollars. North Korea will not write off another billion dollars, but will be asked to return it in the next twenty years, and then Russia undertakes to invest it in the communist North Korean economy.

    There will be no return of a billion. It will be nominal, we are investing an allegedly returned billion dollars in the economy of the DPRK, but in reality there will be no transactions. This means that we forgive not ten, but eleven billion dollars, plus we give another billion in loans. The question is, why? The answer is quite simple, which companies will be known to master a billion dollars. Perhaps it is real that they will build something in the DPRK, part of the money will go to Eun's pocket, and part to the right people’s pocket. Thus, money is stolen from the budget. But who really is against it? It is impossible to be against, for it is fascism-Maidanism, the decisions of the great ....... are not discussed, it is good for the people.
    1. Antiquetoy
      Antiquetoy 27 February 2014 12: 14
      0
      It's like that. Do you want to live under thieves' power - a fascist. Kiselev will confirm.
  7. twviewer
    twviewer 26 February 2014 08: 58
    +4
    business on government debt continues,
    nothing changes.
    if you do not need $ 10 - give me back, I beg you
  8. navigator
    navigator 26 February 2014 09: 25
    +1
    Very informative. With our breasts we stand up for protection from the US atrocities of our powerful ally. Glory to the ideas of juche!
    1. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 26 February 2014 10: 05
      +1
      I don’t think so. For DPRK, only China wants to fight. If he clashes with the states and the Republic of Kazakhstan, then Japan will strike from the east, and Taiwan will add. Here Russia is well to think - to climb, threaten or wait. Moreover, the NATO part-time members of France, Britain will also join.
      Now, while hysteria in the state media and geyrops has subsided about Iran, the states are deploying their drones and missile bases in Jordan, Saudi Arabia and other adjacent lands. Everything is secretive and without publicity, and then, as it strikes, passing by an aircraft carrier from Britain and France in passing immediately join in, and also 5-6 will sail from America.
  9. FunkschNNX
    FunkschNNX 26 February 2014 10: 00
    +1
    Why the hell is this Korea ??? And young Kim I absolutely do not like, he is somehow not pleasant and his look is stupid; "disgusting mug".
  10. pv1005
    pv1005 26 February 2014 10: 20
    +1
    Quote: ReifA
    It's strange why my bank does not behave like that - "To improve relations with clients, we write off all your debts by 95%. Pay the remaining 5%, without reference to anything, for 20 years."
    That would be happiness.


    I think that for such an amount all loans of Russians could be forgiven. Well, in extreme cases, interest.
  11. report4
    report4 26 February 2014 10: 39
    0
    To begin with, the author of the article needs to understand that these debts were created from goods that the USSR supplied to these countries, in fact they were used to boost our industry. And then, snake and spread your brain juice here.
  12. buzer
    buzer 26 February 2014 11: 27
    +5
    there are many countries that have billions of dollars in debt to the Soviet Union and to its successor to the Russian Federation !!! But these countries are unlikely to be able to repay this debt, for repaying them ... p !!! But most of these countries are located in rather warm, resort and comfortable geographical coordinates !!! Why should not Russia claim debt not with money, but let us say by RENTING these territories !!! which Russian would refuse beaches in Cuba, a safari in Angola or diving in Vietnam ??? PS About Crimea, I finally can not say anything ....
    1. Aleksandr
      Aleksandr 26 February 2014 11: 44
      +1
      Or buy from Cuba Guantanamo what will happen what will happen)))))))))))
    2. clidon
      clidon 26 February 2014 18: 40
      0
      The problem here is different - they do not want to repay debts. No way. Neither Vietnam nor Cuba simply recognized the amount of debt announced by us, and nothing more. Like they all worked out their loyalty, and military supplies were needed not only for them, but also for the USSR in their big game. Therefore, this can be considered as a kind of Lend-Lease.
  13. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 26 February 2014 13: 07
    -2
    I welcome the step of Moscow.
  14. Standard Oil
    Standard Oil 26 February 2014 13: 40
    +1
    I sincerely feel sorry for ordinary North Koreans, while the leadership lives like kings, the common population lives from hand to mouth, for South Korea to annex the North to itself, this is a billion-dollar spending, the economy will probably immediately "sag" by several points, and the consciousness of the North all lives in the late 50s, release them now, for them it will be like landing on another planet. In short, all this must be done gradually, gradually opening up to the world and unscrewing the nuts.
    1. vova1973
      vova1973 26 February 2014 15: 15
      0
      if they connect South Korea will be a state with nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles. With the availability of nuclear weapons, military expenditures can be greatly reduced. A large army is not needed. The elites would have united the country a long time ago, but neither Russia nor America in a compartment with Japan will give, and China is not profitable.
      1. clidon
        clidon 26 February 2014 18: 37
        0
        The elites need a unification of the country on mutually unacceptable conditions. And first of all, for this reason, unification is more of a political myth that is exploited by both sides.
  15. Papania
    Papania 26 February 2014 14: 34
    +1
    Someone again from ours decided to boil bobs in his pocket. Therefore, everything will be so.
  16. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 26 February 2014 14: 38
    +3
    Guys, maybe it's enough to repeat these tales about an uncle eaten by dogs, about Kim Jong-un, his dancer mistress, who was shot at the insistence of his wife, along with his entire ensemble, allegedly for filming in p ... o (North Korean n ... o? , interestingly, do not consider it a pervert ...) about the general who was shot from a mortar (why from a mortar? Better immediately from the "Koksan", 170-mm, direct fire, not only there will be no trace and no wet place)
    I will say this:
    1: The North Korean regime, of course, is not an example of herbivore. Everything is strict there. But the generation of senseless absurdity and he is not involved. Well, if they want to shoot someone, then for this it’s enough pistols and machine guns, or from which they shoot enough ...
    2. Pay attention to the source, for the shooting of the singer and former lover Kim Jong-un was reported by the South Korean newspaper "Joseon Ilbo" (previously caught in ducks about the "shot down the national football team"), and even with reference to an unnamed source in China. Then the others began to reprint it, with a link already to it, which raised the external authority of the message for the reader. The same is with the "fed dogs" uncle ... So, the story about dogs first appeared in the satirical blog of a man who calls himself "Choi Seungho from Pyongyang" and from time to time posts in his microblog on "Weibo" (Chinese analogue " Twitter ”) all sorts of alleged stories about North Korea. The next day, this "message" was reprinted by the Hong Kong newspaper Wen Wei Po. The third phase of this story began two weeks later, when an old report from Wen Wei Po was suddenly reprinted by the English-language Singaporean newspaper The Straits Times. However, they also referred, which is typical, not to the humorist blogger, but to Wen Wei Po, that is, to another newspaper. Well, after that the province went to write. The news of Uncle Chan's gruesome death appeared in thousands of newspapers, was replicated on the Internet, and eventually came to be seen by many as an indisputable fact. The snide humoresque suddenly became international news and began to be perceived as such.
    3. So, guys, when reading the next "sensation", turn on your head at an early stage, and look at the original source of the news and what it refers to! Well, this is an elementary rule. Why feed on rotten carcass ??? Because it smells good and the label is colorful and shimmery? So, something like that ...
    1. Massik
      Massik 27 February 2014 01: 52
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      Well, fairy tales do not make an impression on me, local news should not be so trusted, what can we say about world news ... It is customary to distinguish state figures by "ryashka", as they say in a good film "... you vote for the poor one, in a year what a muzzle, what..opa! " Eun is still nothing ...)))
  17. Logos
    Logos 26 February 2014 16: 26
    +1
    By forgiving debts, Moscow is improving relations with debtor countries.

    I thought that relations are improving by repaying debts, and here it is. Borrow from Russia and then do not repay, let the Russians write it off to you, otherwise they will lose the favor of such powerful and great countries as Kyrgyzstan or Cuba. Pugs purely blackmail the elephant, some kind of surrealism

    PS I wonder if Yankistan also forgives billions in debts in order to "improve relations" or not?
  18. Kir
    Kir 26 February 2014 18: 04
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    Some people think interestingly, such as writing off debts and so on, and they don’t want to see the type of new military bases or return to the old bases? Simply put. They don’t see or don’t want to see the Main thing. The DPRK itself is not so important for mattresses and satellites. but the fact that China’s influence is strong there and the influence of Russia is growing is their main concern. For the money, forgive me. Much .......... Wow, large amounts of money go past the necessary Cases, but here we are directly impoverishing ...
    1. Logos
      Logos 26 February 2014 18: 48
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      And where is it about military bases then? It is only said that debts will be forgiven in exchange for improved relations. What about the bases, that Russia lost its bases in Vtnam and Cuba precisely in the 2000s, during the reign of Putin, so why should they forgive debts?
      And for you, maybe 10 billion is a penny, but not for everyone else. At 10 billion, you can build a couple of aircraft carriers or several research centers
      1. Kir
        Kir 26 February 2014 19: 02
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        And tell you everything, well, at least look at the reaction of the minke whales, are they really afraid of the Kim Dynasty? Don’t remember about Camran; in Cuba, it was like talking about the return of ours.
        As for finances, in Us (Russia, Ukraine, .....), the effectively-defective management consumes a lot more, while your Yanukovych clan has been moved under the guise of fighting with what’s known, and his family is single ?, then what is mattress for everyone like that they really like them to be kept; money is being dripped here and they are suffering.
        In general, look, as soon as with what State Russia begins to establish relations, there are certain events and the cries of individual .......
    2. clidon
      clidon 26 February 2014 19: 39
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      Excuse me, since when has the influence of Russia been strengthened in the DPRK?
      1. Kir
        Kir 26 February 2014 20: 39
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        Ever since the allies appeared, or at worst, friendly countries.
        Forgive me, of course, but one gets the feeling that everyone sees only a bare economy, and not Politics, the economy often does not look far, but if Politics is right, it should look far ahead.
        1. clidon
          clidon 26 February 2014 21: 01
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          We are like allies, for 60 years, although our alliance was more like a forced friendship with a country that revolved between us and the Chinese. But what does it have to do with an increase in influence?
          Then, when Uncle Chan was shot, by the way, he was accused of "leasing the territory of the Rason port to foreign states." Can I tell you what these states are? I will hint - very friendly.
          1. Kir
            Kir 26 February 2014 21: 21
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            Well, in many of us, the tower is not just crying, but hysterically sobbing. this is so by the way, and the other uncle seems to have confused his pocket with the Tsar, or is there evidence that he acted on behalf of the State? And as for the allies, so it seems like "we" (tagged. Ebn and gop company) when someone merged something. And with regards to increasing the influence, not when the yankos (concerns) will not suit the bustle if something breaks off, or where the gesheft is not slammed, so think where such a flickering comes from.
            1. clidon
              clidon 26 February 2014 22: 01
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              You could not write more clearly, but not on slang. In Korea, just another (not the first and not the last) wave of the struggle for power passed. And the only novelty (deytitelno over the past 40 years), was that everything was brought to the public view of the crowd.
              By the way, the main accusations against uncle were by no means some kind of economy, but quite a politics. Kim, before and now, did not make a difference between the state’s and his own pockets and never denied themselves anything. Such is their Idea to be fat in a skinny country.
              1. Kir
                Kir 26 February 2014 22: 35
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                Question from whose words you sing? but it’s clearer, for the sake of everything, you perfectly understood what. And with regards to the Idea, so I’m sorry Fazzhi, so .....
                1. clidon
                  clidon 27 February 2014 16: 52
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                  Certainly not with Korea Today. ) Different sources, as expected.
                  And you greatly exaggerate my knowledge of the local polit-argo.
                  1. Kir
                    Kir 27 February 2014 17: 35
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                    This is Faji (the Fajia transcript ist. Legist) History and not Argo, see Chinese History. as far as I remember, the parent of this Teaching is the same age as Kun-tzu (Confucius), the system that belongs to me is closer to Gunsun (Wei, the posthumous name of Shan) Yang-u, since the system implied the Equality of all before the Fa, and also the achievement of benefits only through occupation by War and Agriculture, then canceled the transfer of hereditary ranks and so on, then after the death of his patron He was executed by supporters of the ideas of the teacher (as it is commonly called Confucius).
                    1. clidon
                      clidon 28 February 2014 05: 23
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                      I'm not talking about Fudge, but about the above.
  19. vova1973
    vova1973 28 February 2014 13: 57
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    Quote: ReifA
    It's strange why my bank does not behave like that - "To improve relations with clients, we write off all your debts by 95%. Pay the remaining 5%, without reference to anything, for 20 years."
    That would be happiness.

    Do you think everything is decided by money?