So what, actually, claims to Yanukovych?

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So what, actually, claims to Yanukovych?More than once, it was necessary to write that any violations of the Constitution, whatever the reason, whatever the sauce was served, will eventually come out sideways both for Ukraine as a whole and directly for those who act contrary to the Basic Law.

2000 also wrote a lot on this topic during the “orange” coup-2004, and when unconstitutional re-elections of BP 2007 were appointed, and in 2010, when the political reform was audited illegally and 1996 Constitution was returned (see “2000 "," White-blue "revolution", "Yanukovych - an illegitimate president?", "Cleanliness of the procedure or" the law that dyshlo ... ").

Any anti-constitutional action breeds lawlessness, creates precedents, lays the ground for relapses: if these (today's) violators can do it, then why can't others?

Today they violated “from good intentions”, tomorrow - “because they really need to” ... There is no doubt: the next day someone will break, too - not these (violate today), so others who take an example from them. In the circumstances of more than free treatment of the Basic Law, based on the principle of political expediency, no one will say - when, at what time, what date will Ukraine begin to live in strict accordance with the Constitution and laws? Never! Tomorrow there will again be a “good reason” to trample the Basic Law.

21 February President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych signed with the three opposition leaders (Yatsenyuk, Klitschko and Tyagnibok) “Citing about Ukraine’s crisis”. The agreement was also signed by European mediators - the guarantors of its execution: the foreign ministers of Germany, Poland and France.

In the first paragraph, the document stipulated: “Proceedings of 48 for each year after the registration of the government should be received, the special law has been signed, and the special law of the Constitution of Ukraine of 2004 should be adopted, submitted to the deadline, submitted to the curriculum of the Constitution of Ukraine XNUMX, with the adoption of a new law, submitted to the curriculum

There were other points, for example: “Ownership of the situation is the first place on the nature of life and nature… at home, children, and nature and nature ...

By and large, Yanukovych had reason to immediately blame the opposition for not implementing the agreement. For the protesters not only did not stop the military actions, the storming of administrative buildings, but on Independence it was stated in plain text that no one is going to execute what was written down, that the president should leave immediately (otherwise - “go over to an armed offensive”), and the oppositionists (in In particular, Klitschko) also apologized to those who gathered for this agreement: they blundered, they say ...

That is, by the evening of February 21 a document - signed with European mediation - was turned by Maidan and its leaders into worthless paper. (This, incidentally, also concerns the question - who previously violated the agreements reached during the negotiations between the government and the opposition?)

February 21 visually testified which side was completely incapable of negotiating (and this is when the senior officials from EU countries initialed the agreements - what to say about situations when negotiated without European intermediaries!).

Nevertheless, in the evening of February 21 in the Verkhovna Rada vote for that very “special law” on the renewal of the Constitution of 2004. Arseniy Yatsenyuk, speaking before him from the rostrum of BP, emphasized that “the current president was elected by the Constitution of 2004 of the year, but the COP illegally canceled certain provisions of the Ukrainian Constitution ", and that as a result of the adoption of the law, the Verkhovna Rada" will receive authority to appoint the government, all members of the Cabinet of Ministers, and influence law enforcement, judicial and other branches of government. "

Reasonable. The president was "elected according to the Constitution of 2004 of the Year" - he was returned to the framework of the powers delegated to him by the voters in the elections of 2010. But the deputies of the current BP elected at the parliamentary elections of 2012 already under the conditions of the Constitution of 1996. The voters indicated by Yatsenyuk “the authority to appoint the government, all Cabinet members, influence on law enforcement, judicial and other branches of government” did not delegate them!

Why is it that such principled democrats - Yatsenyuk and his comrades - did not demand to declare the re-election of the Verkhovna Rada, according to the Constitution of 2004? After which the deputies, having received a mandate from the people to exercise broader powers, would start the very “appointment of the government, all members of the Cabinet of Ministers, influence on law enforcement, judicial and other branches of government”.

But no - the law stated that the current Verkhovna Rada was working until October 2017. There were no early elections for parliament.

When the president takes over powers that are not delegated to him by the people, this is bad, this is reason enough to protest, storm administrative buildings, etc., etc. When the Verkhovna Rada does the same, no one rolls their eyes, wringing his hands, does not go into hysterics, “how can it be without a popular mandate ?!”, this is “normal”.

The Maidan, by the way, took such an anti-democratic (based on the logic of the same Euromaidanovtsy) act with full approval.

Okay. The opposition has not fulfilled its obligations to renounce the use of force, to release captured administrative buildings. Adopted a "special law", aimed at returning the Constitution of 2004. But then the law must be signed by the president! Only then will the law become law!

According to the terms of “Ugodi about the timeout crisis in Ukraine”, Viktor Yanukovych had 48 hours on it, that is, until February evening 23. And according to the Constitution - even more: “The President of Ukraine, within fifteen days after receiving the law, signs it, accepting it for execution, and officially promulgates it or returns the law with its motivated and formulated proposals to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine for reconsideration. If the President of Ukraine did not return the law for a repeated consideration within the prescribed time, the law is considered approved by the President of Ukraine and can be signed and officially announced ”(part 2 Art. 94 was in effect at that time the Constitution 1996 g). 15 days!

Viktor Yanukovych had the full constitutional right to contemplate 15 days. Yes, it would be a violation of the “Restructuring crisis in Ukraine” (and didn’t the opposition themselves violate this agreement?), But it would be consistent with the Constitution.

However, the opposition did not wait for 15 days or 48 hours. The 24 hours did not pass, as BP, in which representatives of the opposition factions were already leading (the outside peace was supported by “peaceful protesters” - with bats and machine guns), put into effect the 2004 Constitution without the signature of the president, by a decree.

As Yatsenyuk explained, such a decision is necessary “due to the fact that the President of Ukraine did not fulfill the responsibility assumed in the agreement and did not sign the law on the renewal of the Constitution of 2004 g”.
Well, first of all, at that time the deadline during which Yanukovych must (according to “Requirements for crisis in Ukraine”) would not be released was to sign this law. And secondly, and this is most important, the legal field of the state is not determined by political documents like “Lands about the crisis in Ukraine” (violated, by the way, by the opposition members themselves), but primarily by the Constitution. And according to the Constitution. law without the signature of the president - not the law!

The question is: how does BP’s 22 February 2014 act better than the actions of the Constitutional Court in 2010? In terms of respect for the Basic Law - nothing! The COP did not have the right to rewrite the Basic Law by its decision (from the sample of 2004 to the editors of 1996). But the Verkhovna Rada is not authorized to rewrite the Constitution (in the reverse order, from the sample of 1996 to the version of 2004) by its resolution. In both cases, going beyond the scope of authority and gross violation of the procedure for amending the Constitution.

Before that, the Verkhovna Rada “distinguished” in the adoption of another revolutionary document in all respects - the Decree on the self-elimination of the President of Ukraine from the exercise of constitutional powers. Here is its full text:

“Considering that President Viktor Yanukovych of Ukraine withdrew from the exercise of constitutional powers, which poses a threat to state controllability, territorial integrity and sovereignty of Ukraine, massive violation of citizens' rights and freedoms, based on the circumstances of extreme necessity, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, deciding:

1. Establish that the President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych, in an unconstitutional manner, withdrew from the exercise of constitutional powers and does not fulfill his duties.

2. In accordance with paragraph 7 h. 1 Art. 85 Constitution of Ukraine to appoint special elections for the President of Ukraine on 25 May 2014.

3. The decree comes into force from the moment of its adoption. ”

To say that this is nonsense - to say nothing.

How, it turns out, simply to remove the President of Ukraine - to declare him “self-withdrawing”. By the way, what is this - “self-elimination” of the president? Who determines whether he “removed himself” from exercising constitutional powers or not? What procedure does it take and where is it written out? Where is such a concept defined at all - “self-removal of the president from exercising constitutional powers”? Nowhere!

According to Part 5 Art. 103 of the Constitution “in the event of an early termination of the powers of the President of Ukraine, the elections of the President of Ukraine are held during the ninety days from the day of the termination of powers”.
That is, extraordinary presidential elections can be appointed only in the case of early termination of his powers.

But the Constitution does not have such a rule - the removal of the president from power or the appointment of extraordinary presidential elections in the form of his (current president) "self-withdrawal."

CH 2 Art. The 108 Constitution (and it sounds the same in the Basic Law of both 1996 and 2004) contains an exhaustive list of reasons why the presidential powers are terminated early: “in case of: 1) resignation; 2) the inability to exercise their powers for health reasons; 3) impeachment from office; 4) of death. "

Does the Constitution "withdrawn from the exercise of constitutional powers"? The answer is obvious: no.

In other words, the Verkhovna Rada unconstitutional suspended the president and called an unconstitutional presidential election on 25 in May 2014.

The legitimacy of such a president can be questioned by anyone, at any time, including the current closest associates.

I will remind a case from recent stories. In 2007, Yulia Tymoshenko incited Viktor Yushchenko to the unconstitutional dispersal of parliament and the appointment of special elections to BP. And in 2008, she was already going to remove Yushchenko himself from power under the impeachment procedure, imputing the “overclocking” decrees he was accused of.

The list of Yushchenko’s crimes, prepared by BYU lawyers, indicated his acts on the early termination of the authority of the Verkhovna Rada of the 5th convocation: “The issuance of such acts was unconditional evidence of Yushchenko’s intention to unconsciously terminate the highest representative body, which led to grave consequences in the economic, political and social spheres, since from April to September 2007, the activities of both the Rada and the people's deputies were terminated. ”

And Yushchenko’s actions themselves, which allowed the BYuT to implement the plan for dissolving the parliament of the fifth convocation, according to the authors of the submission, contained signs of a crime under Art. 344 of the Criminal Code (“unlawful influence on people's deputies in order to prevent a person from fulfilling his official duties using his official position”) (see Kommersant Ukraine, No. XXUMX (234), 819).

If tomorrow the Democrats will quarrel (and this has always happened to them, as soon as it came to the section of the power seats), they will begin to remember who and how they violated today.

By the way, the presidential elections are scheduled for May 25 - this is only the first round. If you need a second one (and most likely it will be so), this is already June 8. Add 10 days to set aside results. But the powers of the current CEC end on June 1. Summing up the elections and declaring the name of the president will be an illegitimate CEC? .. Well, yes, in the light of the "legitimacy" of the elections themselves, this will not be such a big problem.

The Verkhovna Rada, "democratized" by Maidan, flashed with other "legislative" arts. For example, the new speaker of the BP was authorized to "coordinate the work of the government." Even unconstitutionally returned, the Basic Law of 2004 does not give the head of BP such authority. From the constitutional point of view, this is the usurpation of power. For those interested, I suggest that you re-read the verdict of the Constitutional Court of 5 in October 2005 (“To the right about possession of the people”): “The guarantor is not allowed to usurpate state power, the Zokremia ... laid down, with the help of an usurping state power, the zokremia ... Zobov'yazanі dіyat lishy on p_dstavі, in the interwalks again and in sposіb, just to the Constitution and the laws of Ukraine (part of a friend of 19) ”...

However, who is interested in it now. Moreover, the opposition will not "bother" with such "trifles". Well, this is not the autocrat Yanukovych vested unconstitutional powers, and the democrat Turchinov.

The constitution of 2004 does not give the parliament the right to appoint the leadership of the Security Service of Ukraine and the Ministry of Defense even in the form of some “control agents”. It does not matter: “the president has withdrawn himself from his duties, therefore, on behalf of the parliament, we appoint Valentina Nalyvaichenko to be the ombudsman for the control of the SBU,” announced A. Turchinov on February 22. At the time of passing “to the side of the people”, V. Zaman was sent “authorized by the VR” to the Ministry of Defense, and the “freedom fighter” O. Mokhnitsky was sent to the GPU.

They returned the mandates to a number of former deputies by a resolution of the Verkhovna Rada, bypassing the “unnecessary” judicial procedures: Sergey Vlasenko, Pavel Baloga and Alexander Dombrovsky. I wonder where now to put the deputies who came to their place? Say, according to the CEC decision from 18 in March 2013, Roman Stadniychuk came to replace S. Vlasenko. Took the deputy oath. How to “ask” him now from the Rada and by what procedure? She, by the way, for such cases is simply absent. Will there be more deputies in the Verkhovna Rada than stipulated by the Constitution? In the present circumstances it is quite possible.

By the way, at the same time, along with Sergey Vlasenko, Andrei Verevsky was deprived of his deputy’s mandate, and for the same reason - because of his second job. But no one returned to Verevsky's mandate. Maybe because he was a member of the Party of Regions faction, to which the "triumph of justice" does not apply?

And, of course, it is impossible not to say about the “procedure” of the release of Yulia Tymoshenko. February 21 seems to have tried to go the legal way. A law was passed to amend the articles of the Criminal Code for which the ex-premier was convicted. Further, the law had to be signed by the president. The next step is a court decision. And only then - to freedom. February 21 in the evening and Timoshenko’s defender Sergey Vlasenko thought so, having commented on the law “on decriminalization”: “Now Yulia Tymoshenko should be released by a court decision”.

But why wait for a court decision? Can it be easier - by decree of BP! And February 22 supporters of Yulia Vladimirovna decided not to complicate matters - they supported the Verkhovna Rada's decree “On the fulfillment of Ukraine’s international obligations regarding the release of Yulia Tymoshenko”.

Even 21 February, the opposition did not know that there is, it turns out, some "international obligations of Ukraine regarding the liberation of Yulia Tymoshenko." And in the night from 21 to 22, it dawned.

Needless to say, there was no “international obligations of Ukraine” about the release of Tymoshenko, nor any legal basis for the aforesaid decree of the Supreme Court ...

In the autumn of 2010, when the “regionals” repeated the unconstitutional actions of Yushchenko, which they themselves had previously criticized, I suggested: “Maybe they should apologize to Viktor Andreyevich and hang out the slogan:“ Yushchenko, were you right! ”?” (“White-blue " revolution"). Isn't it time for the current legislators to start apologizing to Viktor Yanukovych and members of his team right now? After all, only in a few days they had fooled so much on the part of the violation of the norms of the Constitution that they could surpass their predecessors.

And why is the Maidan silent, why is it not opposing new usurpers?
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  1. Hs487
    +28
    25 February 2014 11: 24
    What is the point now to analyze where and when the maydaunas violated the agreement and the law? Power is now theirs. And the only claim to Yanukovych was that he threw those who supported him.
    1. +39
      25 February 2014 18: 52
      Quote: Hs487
      threw those who supported him

      His house is a prison.

      1. +9
        25 February 2014 19: 07
        Quote: Boris55
        His house is a prison.


        He is there in authority, all the same, we judge twice
        1. +4
          25 February 2014 19: 10
          Quote: Vadivak
          He is there in authority

          He takes off the cock-corner there. wassat
        2. +4
          25 February 2014 19: 32
          Quote: Vadivak
          n there in authority, all-we are twice judged

          if judged will be in The Hague and will sit in The Hague (((
          means crowing, gay roopp, everything there, starting with judges == roosters
          tongue !!!
        3. +4
          25 February 2014 22: 27
          after he merged everything and everything for his grandmother and in prison, the place is only at the bucket. Such people are not accepted anywhere ...
        4. +4
          26 February 2014 00: 11
          Quote: Vadivak
          He is there in authority, all the same, we judge twice

          Not the fact that he is in authority)) you can be tried three times and panetrovat place near the bucket)) laughing
          1. Mature naturalist
            +7
            26 February 2014 00: 16
            A very interesting video: Bandera is financed by Qatar -
            1. +2
              26 February 2014 02: 50
              Thanks, Mature Naturalist! Very good footage. I absolutely agree with the respondent. It’s a pity that I don’t know how to download from YouTube! Maybe someone will help with this? Young people and some Crimean businessmen need to clean their brains and give a sober assessment of what is happening. We need this stuff. Write in a personal where to download. Thank!
              1. 0
                26 February 2014 06: 39
                It’s a pity that I don’t know how to download from YouTube! Maybe someone will help with this?


                Downloading is very simple.
                On the video image that you want to show to others, right-click, a context menu appears, in it in the first line there is a line "Copy video URL".
                Copy it, i.e. click the left mouse button. All the videos you have in your computer’s copy buffer.
                It remains only to insert the video wherever you want.
                For example, on the VO website.
                When writing a comment, left-click the picture with the nickname of the film "Insert media content from other services".
                In the window that appears in the line, by clicking the right mouse button and choosing the "Paste" function, paste the previously copied video, and press the "enter" button in this window. All videos in your comment.
                Use with pleasure and for the good of the case. wink
          2. +1
            26 February 2014 03: 55
            Quote: lonely
            three times convicted and panzantovat place near the bucket)
            No matter how much he sat, how important it was! good
      2. +8
        25 February 2014 19: 39
        Well then, about all the presidents ...
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      5. +2
        25 February 2014 22: 29
        The picture is right to the point ... I’ll copy it now and send it to friends in Ukraine ... let them at least mentally relax ...
    2. +9
      25 February 2014 19: 14
      Quote: Hs487
      What is the point now to analyze where and when the maydaunas violated the agreement and the law?

      it must be remembered and declared and brought everywhere ...
      Here are some good comrades
      It is true that the Russian Federation succeeded in introducing into the zugzwang in a political chess game (i.e., on a plane).
      It is not true that there is no choice.
      Under these conditions, much can be done.
      First, launch the UN Institute - convene the Security Council, yell at the whole universe about the putsch and fascist coup, introduce resolutions ... etc. etc. By ourselves, through, RB, RK, PRC ... This channel does not work at all. Pakimun lit up in their Maidan, let him answer now ...

      Secondly - to use paradoxical Russian thinking (Neopolitiki-auu !!!)
      Which consists in transferring the game to a third and another sphere, region ...
      In this case, declare - the sovereign and integral Ukrainian was before 21.02.2014, after-sorry-coup, the fascist rebellion, which we reject!
      Thirdly, the "national minorities" - Russians, Jews (at least some benefit from them) and others - are called oppressed and enslaved. Zones of YUVU and Crimea - to encompass the "zone of sovereign freedom of compactly residing ethnic minorities who are threatened", when the Kiivs attempt to kill them - to yell at the whole of Ivanovo and threaten with all conceivable and inconceivable punishments: economic, financial, sanctions and announce moral, material support for active actions and the resistance of Russian speakers. Try to internationalize this support. Declare a humanitarian zone and no-fly unarmed zones. To seek the introduction of the CSTO forces as peacekeeping forces ...
      1. +2
        25 February 2014 22: 23
        The winners are not judged ... does anyone recall the Chinese tanks in Tiananmen Square? Late...
        1. +3
          26 February 2014 00: 14
          Quote: Memo
          . Does anyone recall Chinese tanks on Tiananmen Square?

          Of course fellow What modification whose production life at the time of application wassat
      2. +1
        25 February 2014 22: 38
        I think so Pu leads to this ... Now I think it sets the right sector against the Maidan people in parliament ... When the Right sector starts cutting them, everyone will beg Russia to put things in order ... even Psheks ... and the plan for crowding out the militants is already visible there is an SVR, the FSB worked ... and it was not in vain that the Kharkov people went to Kadyrov-half of his blood’s bender ... I think everything will start either immediately after the election, or in a week ...
    3. +1
      26 February 2014 01: 01
      Quote: Hs487
      What is the point now to analyze where and when the maydaunas violated the agreement and the law? Power is now theirs. And the only claim to Yanukovych was that he threw those who supported him.

      It is not yet known who will have the power, who will place his people in power and the Maidan will remain with his nose like it was in Egypt
      1. Citizen7
        +1
        26 February 2014 04: 07
        nothing like that - a frantic crowd walks around Kiev - no one controls it and wants to be, and considers itself AUTHORITY - PLUS WEAPONS FROM LVOSKY WAREHOUSES AND THE MOI
  2. +16
    25 February 2014 11: 42
    Yes, we need to change our Constitution, we go under non-Russian rule (finance, lawmaking). In Ukraine, the same thing, only taken to extremes.
    1. +2
      25 February 2014 19: 01
      Quote: Const
      Yes, we need to change our Constitution, we go under non-Russian rule (finance, lawmaking).

      That's right, but it seems that the process is going in the right direction ...
      1. +3
        25 February 2014 19: 48
        Nick (1) RU Today, 19: 01 ↑ New
        Quote: Const
        Yes, we need to change our Constitution, we go under non-Russian rule (finance, lawmaking).
        That's right, but it seems that the process is going in the right direction ...

        Right Of particular note in this regard is Putin's invitation to a meeting of academicians-economists of the Russian Academy of Sciences and his task to develop a new state economic model.
    2. +1
      25 February 2014 19: 55
      Specifically, the articles and provisions that you propose to change please. I’m still forming my proposals. And what does it mean
      Quote: Const
      go under non-Russian control
      ?
      1. +2
        25 February 2014 21: 08
        Watch the videos of E. Fedorov or N. Starikov on YouTube.
        First, balls for the rollers (shock), then understanding.
  3. +4
    25 February 2014 18: 46
    there is only one claim, but it eclipses all the others, stsiklo!
  4. +11
    25 February 2014 18: 47
    Only one - a prostitute who handed over those who defended him including bodyguard am And the rest is nothing personal, just a politician request
    1. +2
      25 February 2014 19: 05
      Quote: Ruslan67
      Only one - a prostitute who handed over those who defended him including bodyguard am And the rest is nothing personal, just a politician request

      Rather than politics, but business.
      1. +2
        25 February 2014 19: 13
        Quote: alexbg2
        not politics, but business.

        Is there a difference in a fucking 21st century?
        1. +7
          25 February 2014 19: 20
          Quote: Ruslan67
          Quote: alexbg2
          not politics, but business.

          Is there a difference in a fucking 21st century?

          Why, Lukashenko is clearly not a businessman, but a politician, moreover a statesman. Although maybe the last of the Mohicans.
          1. +4
            25 February 2014 19: 30
            Quote: alexbg2
            Why, Lukashenko is clearly not a businessman, but a politician, moreover, a statesman

            Lukashenko is a businessman to the core.
            In fact, he privatized the economy of the whole country.
            It perfectly trades Russian oil, selling it to Poles under the guise of "solvents".
            Cleverly breds everyone on loans. Moreover, Russia has already three times asked for a deferral of loans, plus an additional loan, but it gives everything to the American IBRD on time. Ally, in short ...
            1. +10
              25 February 2014 19: 42
              Quote: Sour
              Lukashenko is a businessman to the core.
              In fact, he privatized the economy of the whole country.
              It perfectly trades Russian oil, selling it to Poles under the guise of "solvents".
              Cleverly breds everyone on loans. Moreover, Russia has already three times asked for a deferral of loans, plus an additional loan, but it gives everything to the American IBRD on time. Ally, in short ...

              It is better to have such an ally than the foreheads of Ukraine that has sunk ...
              1. +6
                25 February 2014 19: 44
                Quote: PSih2097
                It is better to have such an ally than the foreheads of Ukraine that has sunk ...

                Lukashenko at least controls the situation and knows where to stop
              2. +10
                25 February 2014 19: 56
                Quote: PSih2097
                It is better to have such an ally than the foreheads of Ukraine that has sunk ...

                Here I do not mind. There can be no worse ally than Yanyk. However, for Russia he never was.
              3. +2
                25 February 2014 22: 43
                Are you sure that he is an ally? It seems to me that he would not have refused the place of Pu ...- lusting for a sneak ... but at least his hands are not shaking, already respect ...
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            3. +5
              25 February 2014 20: 19
              Quote: Sour
              Lukashenko is a businessman to the core ...

              But how could it be otherwise, all the same, politics is a continuation of the economy. Bargained for the country as a result.
              Yanukovych had neither politics, nor economy, so a personal business. He was engaged in the same as Lukashenko, but only for his beloved.
            4. +8
              25 February 2014 20: 29
              Quote: Sour
              Lukashenko is a businessman to the core.

              So he is a young man and he earns money and gives people live humanly.
              We would be such a "tyrant" to Ukraine!
          2. +5
            25 February 2014 22: 44
            Why, Lukashenko is clearly not a businessman, but a politician, moreover a statesman. Although maybe the last of the Mohicans
            plus .....
            Chavez, Castro also worked hard on his own pocket
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    2. +7
      25 February 2014 19: 15
      Quote: Ruslan67
      just politics


      Just politics? I also consider Yanukovych a traitor. But, my dear friends, the given (absolutely correct!) Analysis of the "lawmaking" of the Banderaites allows us to use Yanukovych as a map with which we can absolutely LEGALLY get our hands on Ukraine. The only question is: is there a will for this in our leadership.

      So far I only see the usual: "Maybe it will resolve itself? .."
      1. +5
        25 February 2014 19: 19
        Quote: nokki
        So far I only see the usual: "Maybe it will resolve itself? .."

        And now I see that there is nothing to tidy. There is not a single real force besides small islands on whom one could lean
        1. +2
          25 February 2014 21: 22
          Quote: Ruslan67
          There is no real force besides small islands on whom one could lean


          Real power is money.

          Thanks to them, the Maidan appeared, with all the professional fighters, service personnel, housing, and material supplies.
          And the most important is the management structure and moral and psychological impact. (What can an army without a general staff, commissars, priests and concert brigades?)

          And for your money, what can you do? Only freeze on the street from starvation.

          About 15 billion USD (not millions) was spent on this "Maidan" only through the US diplomatic line !!!
          1. +3
            26 February 2014 00: 08
            Quote: Genry
            Real power is money.

            According to this logic, what would you save your country Russia should give more And as a result receive, Thank you fellow And then we ourselves as an independent state? what So to hell with you! Go to a hunting store Buy a shotgun and kill a Bandera. Your grandson will receive Russian citizenship. Education and pension for the loss of a breadwinner. Not our mothers will receive funerals from near Poltava. fool
          2. +1
            26 February 2014 00: 15
            Quote: Genry
            About 15 billion USD (not millions) was spent on this "Maidan" only through the US diplomatic line !!!

            Where does infa come from? Give the source. Really interesting. Or is this another blah blah blah?
            1. Citizen7
              +1
              26 February 2014 04: 45
              about 15 billion USD (not millions) !!! === you turned it down very, very much - there was infa that examined the office of the Fatherland during the Maidan - there were 16, millions of green -new - really - lemons 200 and 500 militants plus a couple of thousand sympathizers to create a peaceful rally - there, even girls of 20 years old bottled gasoline
          3. Citizen7
            0
            26 February 2014 04: 44
            about 15 billion USD (not millions) !!! === you turned it down very, very much - there was infa that examined the office of the Fatherland during the Maidan - there were 16, millions of green -new - really - lemons 200 and 500 militants plus a couple of thousand sympathizers to create a peaceful rally - there, even girls of 20 years old bottled gasoline
      2. 0
        25 February 2014 22: 44
        I think they’re already using it, just not for the general public ...
  5. +8
    25 February 2014 18: 51
    The Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine appealed to the International Criminal Court in The Hague with a request to establish and hold accountable the highest officials of the state, including Viktor Yanukovych, who were responsible, according to the Chamber, for crimes against humanity during peaceful protests of citizens from November 30, 2013 to February 22

    Remind all the victims of the "humane" Hague Tribunal?
    1. +3
      25 February 2014 18: 54
      Quote: Cherdak
      during peaceful protests of citizens from November 30 to 2013 year to February 22

      wow ... what if they weren’t peaceful?
      1. +2
        25 February 2014 19: 15
        I played my game .. and played out
      2. +3
        25 February 2014 20: 53
        Quote: andrei332809
        What if they weren’t peaceful?


        Europe recognized the processions as peaceful ... they even played the piano laughing

        1. Mature naturalist
          +3
          26 February 2014 00: 06
          Here is an analysis of the video about the shooting of the maydanut.
          It turns out that the Western television crew paid the sniper to show an impressive picture.
          http://blagin-anton.livejournal.com/364576.html

    2. +1
      25 February 2014 22: 47
      Well, how will they condemn him? Only by lawlessness like Milosevic ... He can officially be convicted only of criminal inaction resulting in grave consequences ...
  6. +2
    25 February 2014 18: 54
    What are the claims against Yanukovych ?, but a whole list of them can be made.
    How it was possible to disfigure everything and power and the country, like he took a loan from the Russians, saved the economy, passed laws against the Maydan people, why his mother didn’t go to the end, didn’t disperse all this shusher on the Maidan, what difference did he make to him if he had become a tyrant in Europe and persona non-grata, and right now he disappeared because he understands that he will take the place of Julia, I generally doubt his adequacy, the acts that he committed the last weeks before his disappearance, obviously committed inadequacy, he did not understand how his decisiveness would end?
    1. Drosselmeyer
      +4
      25 February 2014 20: 15
      Um, you know, there is an old adage: sit down and eat a fish. This was Yanukovych's credo. The alignment was just this: the ambassadors of Europe, Rabbit, Boxer and vonBock promised Yanukovych that he would hold out until December, and then leaving Mizhhirya for himself and everything that he stole would go to the leaders of the Party of Regions. For this Yanukovych had to create a new government, which would include representatives of the opposition. The deputy of the Verkhovna Rada Doniy wrote about this, prematurely leaking the information. For this he was beaten by the deputies from "Freedom" in the toilet of the Verkhovna Rada. Then Yanukovych makes a televised address and thinks that he had a ride. But! Before negotiations with the opposition, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the SBU began storming the Maidan, the "Berkut" had to distribute the guns (for example, the Sevastopol "Berkut" never received a weapon). The General Staff also began to pull up troops (paratroopers, marines). Yanukovych is canceling this operation in the midst of hoping for an agreement. The Ministry of Internal Affairs and the troops are withdrawn, and some are being removed from Kiev. However, the Right Sector from somewhere receives information about the cancellation of the storming of the Maidan and the withdrawal of the security forces. The next morning, the sector with armed fighters attacks the Rada and Bankovaya, where there are no longer any Ministry of Internal Affairs troops. Rather, they are, but only with a cudgel. As a result, there is no one to defend the Rada and the President's Office, the police and the alpha understand that they have been framed and are not resisting. The result is that Yanukovych is on the run, and the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs declares that no one has promised him anything.
      1. +4
        25 February 2014 20: 55
        Drosselmeyer, you are right. Lousy believed Euro-people (three clowns do not count) and must repeat the fate of either Milosevic or Gaddafi. Well, you can’t be so naive.
    2. Citizen7
      +1
      26 February 2014 04: 49
      there was clearly a "CONSPIRACY" - all channels were on the side of the Maidan EVERYTHING, the EU also shouted peaceful demonstrations, OBAMA - people have the right to peaceful demonstrations - their party began to flee immediately
  7. +3
    25 February 2014 18: 56
    "Everything is confused in the Oblonskys' house ..." (Anna Karenina)
  8. Asan Ata
    +6
    25 February 2014 19: 03
    Solyanka in Ukrainian. Unexpected power did not please, but stunned. Sorry for the people.
  9. RND
    +7
    25 February 2014 19: 07
    Yes, and that’s true, what claims to a donkey can be? Let him write his memoirs at logging.
    1. +5
      25 February 2014 19: 57
      Here I would add a quote like the next potential President (like Julia) -How to tear everything so that it all appears on your personal accounts!
  10. +5
    25 February 2014 19: 09
    There is a deliberate destruction of a large Slavic family that includes peoples from the Balkans to Asia. Regarding Yanuki - so he is a coward, the only king was on the chessboard and he threw his people!
  11. Lesnik
    +8
    25 February 2014 19: 13
    WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE STATE COUPLING HAPPENED?
    We can shout a lot and be indignant about the position of the states of "enlightened democracy" - the practice of "double standards" "he is a son of a bitch, but he is OUR son of a bitch" and that - AND EVERYTHING in the "civilized" world is respected and reckoned only with POWER! !!!!! and the weak are destined to endure and encourage
    "if you are raped, try to have fun"
    1. Citizen7
      +2
      26 February 2014 04: 52
      one hundred pounds - only the West respects the Force
  12. +1
    25 February 2014 19: 14
    Quote: Evkur
    the king was

    "And the king is naked!"
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  14. +4
    25 February 2014 19: 21
    The winners are not judged, the victors are judged. And Crimea should be taken away.
    1. +3
      25 February 2014 21: 01
      So then it is, but it’s not enough to seize power, it still needs to be held. After a booze, a hangover follows, and euphoria passes with the first signs of hunger. And hunger will be soon. There is no money in the budget. Sevastopol refused to transfer taxes, others will also have to, since salaries must be paid, otherwise the Maidan will come to them.
    2. Citizen7
      0
      26 February 2014 04: 57
      the fifth column there - TATARS - they are used to suppress Russian sentiment if it weren’t for Crimea to be Russian the day before yesterday (there were about 250 Tatars in the Tatars - there will be a massacre - besides, there were expressions we will arrange for you Chechnya - to evict the current - ( where to get Stalin and where to evict) and Turkey and Qatar are actively working there, supposedly the indigenous population, and the Russians are conquerors here and go out
  15. +7
    25 February 2014 19: 26
    21 February President of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych signed with the three opposition leaders (Yatsenyuk, Klitschko and Tyagnibok) “Citing about Ukraine’s crisis”. The agreement was also signed by European mediators - the guarantors of its execution: the foreign ministers of Germany, Poland and France.
    There is a clear coup ..! According to the idea, Yanyk has the right to ask for military assistance from Russia, armed militants smash the floor of Ukraine and, most importantly, Kiev! .. For 20 years of independence, Ukraine has literally been flooded with agents and provocateurs of various special services of the world .. Here I remembered the article here .. if I'm not mistaken, the Minister of Defense stated before the fall ..) Tipo we will reduce the army contract soldiers .. Here and reduced! ..Special units kneel before the bandits .. and ask for forgiveness .. Whose Army Ukraine will be questioned but definitely not its own ..! That's how the Ukrainians brothers .. The Army and Navy are the basis of the state ..!
    1. Lesnik
      +4
      25 February 2014 19: 34
      Quote: MIKHAN
      [b]! That's how brothers Ukrainians .. The Army and Navy are the foundation of the state ..!

      You dear to whom this is explained? laughing straight funny. WHO DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THIS ON THIS SITE?
      1. +1
        25 February 2014 20: 48
        Quote: Forestman
        Quote: MIKHAN
        [b]! That's how brothers Ukrainians .. The Army and Navy are the foundation of the state ..!

        You dear to whom this is explained? laughing straight funny. WHO DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THIS ON THIS SITE?

        You do not quite understand me .. It’s just under that article and not only (about reducing the army of destruction of 2000 epic tanks with armored personnel carriers floating on the oceans and no one needs ..))) There were a lot of comments like what are you doing ..? Ukrainian forum users were offended .. That's the result now .. There is practically no army in Ukraine ..! The golden eagle was fighting off as best it could (they put it on its knees) Everyone runs in different directions ..! I think this operation will appear in many secret training manuals of the Western special services .. A brilliant well-designed 20-year-old operation Well done no words! That's just Russia is an unpredictable country ....
      2. 0
        25 February 2014 20: 48
        Quote: Forestman
        Quote: MIKHAN
        [b]! That's how brothers Ukrainians .. The Army and Navy are the foundation of the state ..!

        You dear to whom this is explained? laughing straight funny. WHO DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THIS ON THIS SITE?

        You do not quite understand me .. It’s just under that article and not only (about reducing the army of destruction of 2000 epic tanks with armored personnel carriers floating on the oceans and no one needs ..))) There were a lot of comments like what are you doing ..? Ukrainian forum users were offended .. That's the result now .. There is practically no army in Ukraine ..! The golden eagle was fighting off as best it could (they put it on its knees) Everyone runs in different directions ..! I think this operation will appear in many secret training manuals of the Western special services .. A brilliant well-designed 20-year-old operation Well done no words! That's just Russia is an unpredictable country ....
  16. +1
    25 February 2014 19: 26
    Here I dug up Zhirinovsky ... I don’t know who laid it out or not, I did not see.
    LDPR rally of February 23 2014
    1. +1
      25 February 2014 20: 07
      Kazakhstan sends a note to the Russian Foreign Ministry and awaits a reaction. If it is absent, it threatens to freeze integration into the CU and the Eurasian Union. Applause to Zhiriku !!! He alone can succeed at what the West puzzles. This is about words about the Central Asian Federal District and its capital, the city of Verny (Almaty). Pomelo works faster than his head.
      Thanks to Boris55 for posting.
      1. +2
        25 February 2014 21: 22
        Quote: Canep
        Kazakhstan sends a note to the Russian Foreign Ministry and awaits a reaction. If it is absent, it threatens to freeze integration into the CU and the Eurasian Union. Applause to Zhiriku !!! He alone can succeed at what the West puzzles. This is about words about the Central Asian Federal District and its capital, the city of Verny (Almaty). Pomelo works faster than his head.
        Thanks to Boris55 for posting.

        It's not about the fat and what he grinds .. The thing is in the reaction ..! When it’s difficult for Russia and the howling begins for the whole world ..))) some start to pull up just in case .. (or get clogged up in booths) Russia understood this for a long time and hopes only for itself .. Our country will take it anyway ..! We have one ally .. you all know who ..! And God forbid if he says his word .. Here are such things ..! They’re really hounding Russia. (That’s the malice that has accumulated ..) Well .. Well, you don’t take Bandera’s fucking babe!
  17. mihasik
    +5
    25 February 2014 19: 31
    Article in the topic. Clearly and point by point. This will soon surface in yet another squabble in Ukraine. Yes, and ours have a reason to pinch the "legitimacy" of the Nazis.
    1. +3
      25 February 2014 21: 18
      Quote: mihasik
      Yes, and ours have a reason to pinch the "legitimacy" of the Nazis.

      Yes, more than enough reasons. Who will pinch?
      1. +1
        25 February 2014 23: 02
        Quote: Karabin
        Who will pinch?


        Well, as it were to start the Lavrov. I recommend watching today's press conference.
        I liked what Medvedev voiced. It’s clear that with my father’s serve, but still.
        Literate, balanced and reasoned speech.

        And who is more to your taste drooling and the emotions of our Duma clown - yes, at least a hundred servings. This is the choice of everyone. I recommend only to recall that Zhirik is only the leader of the Duma fraction. That is, he is not responsible for anything, except for what his faction votes for. And there is no demand from him.
  18. Drosselmeyer
    +4
    25 February 2014 19: 43
    All these illegal decisions will come up under a president like Yuli Kosy when the Maidan fails. Then a pocket constitutional court will begin to repeal them to please the future president, including a return to the 2004 constitution.
    It is more interesting to discuss the question of who, how and when will arrange a "night of long knives" for the Right Sector? This is someone who is now dreaming of eliminating in the Rada.
  19. +7
    25 February 2014 19: 51
    And why is the Maidan silent, why is it not opposing new usurpers?

    Yes, because democracy is a bargain for suckers. And invented for banana republics, and puppeteers are never seen.
  20. +4
    25 February 2014 19: 51
    Everything in the article is correctly laid out from the point of view of the law. Although no one doubts the legitimacy of the current Ukrainian authorities. But I think now it makes no sense to write about this, to remind about the norms of the law. Everything has already happened ... Then, in 50 or 150 years, historians and political scientists will judge. There is no positive news from Ukraine. Yes, Sevastopol and not many others do not give up. But they do not feel the slightest support from official Russia, only "non-interference", "the Ukrainian people's own choice." What is your own choice during the collapse of the country, the threat to the life of your loved ones, the victorious euphoria of the new bandits in power, whose hands are covered in blood to the elbows, and whose pockets no longer hold the "humanitarian" aid of the breadwinners? Now they will also hand over the Berkut. They are the only ones who could change the situation radically, if this scum in power is the "guarantor of the constitution." I understand that I am writing nonsense, but it would be so cool if the Berkut members of Yanyk themselves found and made them answer for everything. And they can do it.
  21. +2
    25 February 2014 19: 52
    Put + but did not finish reading in view of the meaninglessness of evidence for the CONSPIRACIES. What happened happened. Now we need to think about something else.
  22. +2
    25 February 2014 20: 00
    The fact is that the loser is always wrong.
    "The strong is always to blame for the powerless:
    To that in History we hear the darkness of examples
    But we do not write stories;
    And here about how in Fables speak.
    --- It's your fault that I want to eat. "
  23. +4
    25 February 2014 20: 05
    The power based on the ideology of personal enrichment, contempt for one’s country and one’s people as a result receives what Yanukovych received ... The people of this country called Ukraine were indifferent to the power of the Party of Regions - it all started with deception, election promises were not fulfilled, moreover, constant flirting with the farm-nationalists of the District Galichin, one shameful surrender of the Victory Banner is worth what ... But baboons from the western regions understand only a stick, they understand all attempts to appease, so to speak, agreement only as weakness. Add to this a massive media outreach company from the EU, USA and the fifth column. I repeat with the complete inaction of the authorities. The position of Russia is incomprehensible, it is possible to treat the people of Ukraine in different ways to the government, but the guys are all doing this at your borders and you are following the line and, in turn, to the distribution !!! If people brainwash, then the Ukrainian scenario will be repeated.
  24. +14
    25 February 2014 20: 09
    Health resorts of Crimea for the injured Golden Eagle.
    In my opinion, Crimea could take upon itself the treatment of the affected members of the Golden Eagle. The guys carried out the order, whatever it was. They coped with their task, unlike the politicians who tortured them for three months. I think the guys from Berkut in Crimea should be considered heroes officially and provide all possible assistance.
    1. 0
      26 February 2014 03: 02
      It's nice when Crimeans are not called Ukrainians, about ... a country! It is a pity that we do not yet have the opportunity to award them with military awards, maybe someday the "official RF" will appreciate them?
  25. +4
    25 February 2014 20: 32
    Quote: komel
    In my opinion, Crimea could take upon itself the treatment of the affected members of the Golden Eagle. The guys carried out the order, whatever it was. They coped with their task, unlike the politicians who tortured them for three months. I think the guys from Berkut in Crimea should be considered heroes officially and provide all possible assistance.


    On TV they say that Astrakhan invites Berkut residents to their treatment and accommodation. God forbid, if it is wholeheartedly and financially supported, and not the usual PR in our time.
  26. +1
    25 February 2014 20: 32
    I could imagine this, but in Africa on the moon, Well, Ukraine has complete nihilism, they regulate the roads of their boys, laws are adopted from the bathroom, Europe ... damn it. And do not care people are silent, THERE IS WHAT POWER THEY WAITED. GET.
  27. Capyar 48315
    +3
    25 February 2014 20: 42
    claim to Yanukovych-he is a rag, he betrayed his faithful powers (which is now with their FAMILIES), HE betrayed those who trusted him in power !!! And legal casuistry about the legality of his displacement is air shock in the variety ..re, after which it can be used for its intended purpose agreements signed by him
  28. Hudo
    +2
    25 February 2014 20: 57
    Riots in Odessa. The people demand the release of Markov (updated)

    http://79.137.223.138/news/besporyadki-v-odesse-narod-trebuet-osvobozhdeniya-mar
    kova-upnovlyaetsya
  29. 0
    25 February 2014 21: 02
    And if Yanukovych comes up from somewhere and issues a decree resigning and introducing a state of emergency.
    1. Hudo
      +2
      25 February 2014 21: 04
      Quote: valokordin
      And if Yanukovych comes up from somewhere and issues a decree resigning and introducing a state of emergency.


      And who will carry out his orders in this situation (I mean the security forces, and more precisely their getmans))
      1. +4
        25 February 2014 22: 49
        Quote: Hudo
        And who will carry out his orders in this situation (I mean the security forces, and more precisely their hetmans


        We can say that for him (more precisely, against the Maydanut) there will be part of the SBU (special forces), part of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and part of the army.
        It is only necessary to create a headquarters for management (in Sevastopol, for example).

        The first move may be the collection and arming of special forces and the Golden Eagle (fist of 500 fighters).
        The second move, you must choose the first capture object (with warehouses), where the loyal and non-loyal military personnel are in a favorable ratio.
        Secretly and unexpectedly, suppressing communications (!!!) drive up. By cunning and arrogance, disperse the disloyal half of the unit. Form a combat-ready base with weapons, ammunition, food, a medical unit. Replenish units with loyal military personnel.
        Capture equipment and weapons, especially armored personnel carriers, mortars, grenade launchers, flamethrowers.
        And then go on.

        Counteraction will be only near Kiev and in several western regions.
        It is important not to miss the time when the Maidan power will be strengthened by loyal employees, now they have a mess.

        By increasing your army, you can easily "crush" and completely disloyal units (west and west).

        Will there be heavy fighting?
        If you correctly put pressure on the psyche, destroy the ardent "activists" (they will run into a bullet anyway), and do not spare empty shells, then there will be no protracted battles.
        Actively create an image of a ruthless army against the "Baderlog".
        1. 0
          26 February 2014 03: 40
          Henry, it's not as simple as on paper. There are deep ravines. But in general, this is exactly the case, "if the enemy does not surrender." But this is exactly what Western scriptwriters are waiting for. As a result, Ukraine will drown in blood, suffocate in the fire. And it will be like in the song of Lyube: Russians are slaughtering Russians ... At the same time, SEE who benefits from it.
          The surgeon's scalpel is needed to save the life of the patient. Are you ready for surgery? Responsible, like the generalissimo in due time?
          But we won’t follow you.
  30. +2
    25 February 2014 21: 07
    This is the beginning of the war, the past wave has passed, not a single normal person wants a war, but the facts are that there will be a war, I would like to be wrong.
  31. +2
    25 February 2014 21: 08
    The election campaign has started in Ukraine

    Today, February 25, in Ukraine began an election campaign for early presidential elections in Ukraine.

    Crimea will participate in the elections?

    Is Crimea ready to recognize its independence from hostile power for the entire South East?
    1. 0
      26 February 2014 03: 14
      It is difficult to speak on behalf of the whole Crimea. We strive for this - not to recognize the "new government". So far, only marches and demarches, rallies, counter rallies. They say that on Wednesday the question of a referendum and elections will be decided. The likelihood of meanness is high ... We work, but there are not enough sensible professionals and, oddly enough, funds.
  32. +2
    25 February 2014 21: 11
    Kharkiv Mayor Mikhail Dobkin was about to run for president ....
    What does this mean? - this means that he recognized and took the side of the Maidan.
    Maybe that's why monuments are saving in Kharkov, and not authorities from the Maydan people?

  33. stranik72
    +2
    25 February 2014 21: 11
    I don’t think that he will be judged at all, I would like to be mistaken, but after a while in Ukraine there will be more "worthy" clients, it smells of blood there more, the fascists are only getting bolder.
  34. +6
    25 February 2014 21: 23
    what? The situation in Kiev is "normalizing" rogulerovers laughing
    1. brownie
      +1
      25 February 2014 22: 21
      Yes, earlier "volunteer" helpers were more sane
    2. brownie
      +2
      25 February 2014 22: 31
      And also, apparently, a new power structure has appeared - the GestapoAnd this is also a claim to Yanukovych. Impunity breeds permissiveness.
    3. +2
      25 February 2014 23: 19
      These same traffic controllers are now sitting in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine, and they will steer in the same way, or even worse.
  35. -1
    25 February 2014 21: 34
    The author, when you quote phrases from the constitution in a foreign language, you had to immediately translate into Russian. I personally did not understand anything.
    And further. Why do you call the square a foreign (in my opinion Arabic) word baidan or bayran. Who are you writing for? If for a Russian-speaking audience, then please write in Russian. If, of course, you want to be understood.
  36. +2
    25 February 2014 21: 36
    The head of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine Andriy Klyuyev is in a hospital in Kiev with a gunshot wound. Such information was confirmed by his spokesman Artem Petrenko. Petrenko noted that Klyuyev is in the hospital in Kiev, he received a gunshot wound. However, the spokesman does not know the details. As reported, the Head of the Presidential Administration of Ukraine Andriy Klyuyev resigned.
    Source: http://polemika.com.ua/news-139808.html
    xxxxx
    Everything is clearly stated in the article, and I hope that it is not without reason. This can always be played during "H".
  37. waisson
    +3
    25 February 2014 21: 51
    you feel the hand of blue Europe a similar scenario was in Yugoslavia and it seems normal people and behave like gypsies
    At the same time, the ousted president Yanukovych is suspected of committing a crime under Article 115 of the Criminal Code of Ukraine. Namely, in the massacres of aggravated people,
  38. +11
    25 February 2014 22: 02
    PUTIN: And we have gas in Russia! And you?
    YANUKOVICH: And we have a coup, here.
    LUKASHENKO: And we have one potato, but we have it so much that we don’t care about your gas. Our people will not allow any coup!
    PUTIN: And we have the Olympics. What else is needed for happiness? And all the people rejoice. Here!
    YANUKOVICH: And we have a coup, here ...
    LUKASHENKO: But in our country, thanks to, of course, I have neither the poor nor the rich, everyone lives only on a salary.
    PUTIN: And everyone can relax on our skis in Sochi. Both the official and the worker. Here is such a grace!
    YANUKOVICH: And we have a coup, here!
    OBAMA: Well, I just do all the countries send potatoes, gas, bananas. He who does not send bananas has a coup. Here!
    1. Hudo
      +2
      25 February 2014 22: 20
      Quote: lewerlin53rus
      PUTIN: And we have gas in Russia! And you?
      YANUKOVICH: And we have a coup, here.


      "very funny" you know, as much frost on the skin tears.


      The forum of the site of the party "Freedom" is a lively discussion of the burning topic of the assimilation of Russian and Russian-speaking residents of the Southeast

      .. Ukrainianization of Crimea, Donbass, Kharkov, Odessa, Nikolaev, Kherson, Kr. Rog, Sicheslav, Zaporozhye, Kremenchug, Dneprodzerzhinsk, other Russian-speaking cities is possible only with the help of a totalitarian military dictatorship, repressive measures. This is when the defenders of "bilingualism" will knock out their teeth with rifle butts.

      ***

      ... In Kharkov, Odessa, Nikolaev and other cities, the process of assimilation through interethnic Ukrainian-Russian marriages lasts at least 150 years. Therefore, to determine who is Ukrainian and who is Ukrainian is like making an omelet, and then trying to extract the yolk from it.



      To create a truly Ukrainian Ukraine, physically liquidate all the Russian-speaking intelligentsia and all Ukrainophobes (shoot them quickly, without trial or investigation. Any member of Svoboda can make up a register of Ukrainophobes in their area), execute all members of anti-Ukrainian parties and organizations, not only pro-Russian, but and pro-Romanian, pro-Hungarian, pro-Tatar.

      ***

      ... apply the methods of Kampuchea from the time of Pol Pot to the urban Russian-speaking population. Russian-speaking - to work in the fields under duress. Or organize a new famine for Russian-speaking cities to reduce their population. It is only necessary to first remove the Ukrainian-speaking Ukrainians from there, the lists of which will be approved by the local cells of the Liberty Military District, to encircle the cities with troops, to block, it is better in winter. Turn off the gas, light, water, block the sewer, mobile communications.

      ***

      ... the question arises of the lack of Ukrainian-speaking human resources, because for this 3/4 of Galicia and Volhynia will need to be relocated to the East. Indeed, there are very, very many linguistic creoles.

      http://oko-planet.su/politik/newsday/232145-tyagnyboki-o-sevastopole-massovaya-s


      terilizaciya-s-podderzhkoy-bakteriologicheskim-oruzhiem.html
      1. brownie
        +10
        25 February 2014 22: 40
        Quote: Hudo
        Hudo

        I studied at a Ukrainian school (in Soviet times, however), my mother is a teacher of the Ukrainian language and literature, and it is thanks to such idiots from Svolota that I begin to hate Ukrainian language. Although before I did not care, they turn in Ukrainian - I answer in Ukrainian, they turn in Russian - I answer in Russian.
    2. +3
      25 February 2014 22: 38
      Talented and to the point.
  39. +6
    25 February 2014 22: 12
    Yes, indeed, what claims to Victor?
    Unless his thoughts were only about personal wealth,
    Long attracted to the EU
    At the beginning of the Maidan did not want to stop him
    Betrayed and framed "Berkut"
    Received all ambassadors from Europe and America
    Took a cowardly and two-faced position

    This is not all, of course, but for the president it is quite enough.
  40. kundyshev
    +8
    25 February 2014 22: 16
    "... it's better to be a" dictator "than Pid..om ..." Father said correctly !!!
  41. +5
    25 February 2014 22: 35
    Quote: Memo
    The winners are not judged ... does anyone recall the Chinese tanks in Tiananmen Square? Late...

    E where they bent ...

    Chinese tanks in Tiananmen are remembered very well, both friends and enemies.
    China lives, develops and reveres monuments to Lenin.
    1. +4
      25 February 2014 23: 09
      Quote: Sergey S.
      Chinese tanks in Tiananmen are remembered very well, both friends and enemies.

      So we need such a precedent for the reduction of brains.
      And then they sit on the neck, and you can’t shout at them.
  42. +5
    25 February 2014 22: 43
    [quote = Hs487] What is the point now to disassemble where and when maydauny violated the agreement and the law? Power is now theirs. But the only complaint to Yanukovych was that he threw those who supported him. [/ QuotHere disagree here.
    In fact, this is an armed coup d'etat, so you can legally hook. Vrt is only a problem that Yanukovych (the traitor) did not defend it and therefore it is useless to do something, knowing the one-sidedness of Western politics. That Yanukovych, that Gorbachev betrayed their homeland and I think not in vain am And now, the fate of Ukraine will be decided by the people, only for some reason not in favor of the people themselves. Ukrainians do not know why? It may be enough to sit back and surrender Ukraine am Take an example from the Crimea. But Kiev, too, must be returned1 Russia went from there!
    1. Citizen7
      +1
      26 February 2014 05: 30
      Kiev is no longer Russian - maydanutyh darkness and EVIDUAL Ukrainian nation and other glory to the heroes
  43. +2
    25 February 2014 22: 46
    Whatever we think about Yanukovych, but to this day he is a legitimate president in terms of international law. And the fact that he is hiding also makes sense. Do not forget that in Ukraine there is also an army and other power structures. Now we need to give them time to recover, and Yanukovych, as still the president, can come in handy for signing some pieces of paper!
  44. +3
    25 February 2014 22: 55
    Quote: Sour

    Lukashenko is a businessman to the core.
    In fact, he privatized the economy of the whole country.
    It perfectly trades Russian oil, selling it to Poles under the guise of "solvents".
    Cleverly breds everyone on loans. Moreover, Russia has already three times asked for a deferral of loans, plus an additional loan, but it gives everything to the American IBRD on time. Ally, in short ...


    This is not a businessman, but the President.
    If Lukashenko stole, then he knows that he will answer in full, and not himself, but through the children.
    But he did not hide behind the boys' backs, and he will never hide.

    I received a reprieve.
    Our greedy and envious ... So I got for the job, and not just like that.

    Remember how during the time of EBN, Lukashenko, without our help and during our mess, maintained the military infrastructure of the USSR in good condition.
    Thanks to him, our planes flew to Belarus on combat duty quickly and without problems.

    Little Lukashenko stole from the Russian oligarchs.
    I would have stolen 10 times more, maybe 20 more quick response divisions would now be ready to admonish geyromandanshchiki and patrons of swamp impotent people.
  45. +2
    25 February 2014 23: 08
    Quote: Old Warrant Officer
    Whatever we think about Yanukovych, but to this day he is a legitimate president in terms of international law. And the fact that he is hiding also makes sense. Do not forget that in Ukraine there is also an army and other power structures. Now we need to give them time to recover, and Yanukovych, as still the president, can come in handy for signing some pieces of paper!


    There is no army in Ukraine .... If the army leaves the barracks then it will be disarmed in 10-15 minutes by the locals ... they don’t have an army there, what's the trouble ... At the moment it’s just scattering .. The officers were ticking, mothers came and take their children home. Service in Ukraine for a year ...
    1. 0
      26 February 2014 02: 28
      I agree with you. But why does no one in the comments indicate the reasons for this state of the Ukrainian army? Or other pages contain analytical materials answering the question "Why?" Maybe someone in a personal will clarify?
      And as for the Ukrainian security forces, I can explain - they, as in the whole society, have a split.
      Ask how the Berkut is doing in Simferopol. Everything is very difficult. But the Crimeans are with them! And they are with us.
  46. Potin
    +4
    25 February 2014 23: 20
    Yanukovych as he was a thief, so he remained a thief. As European officials threatened him with cover of bank accounts, he immediately leaked Ukraine. Disgusting to horror.
    1. Sadikoff
      +1
      25 February 2014 23: 40
      Who was or will be the honest President of Ukraine against the background of Yanukovych? Western propagandists and agents of influence turned this territory into a country of fools. And we must probably wait until economic reality sober up the clowns in power, set priorities. border on earnings, with good salaries only among the clowns of power.
  47. Vital 33
    +1
    25 February 2014 23: 42
    Yanukovych simply lost absolutely everyone who supported him. Both in the East and in the South, absolutely ... Nobody will go for him (or rather, did not go). His stupid and bestial policy towards his own people led to what we have. And the South-East now simply does not have a leader for whom people would follow, and everyone is in some kind of confusion mixed with indifference ... In Lugansk, 99% are against banderlog, but no one, I repeat NOBODY, went for yanyka. The conversation is something like "yes tries it, he has billions and here I'm eating hell without salt ..."
    1. Lesnik
      +1
      25 February 2014 23: 53
      Quote: Vital 33
      The conversation is something like "yes tries it, he has billions and here I eat the hell out of salt ..."

      The neighbor’s house is on fire ..... he needs it
      1. Vital 33
        +1
        26 February 2014 00: 01
        And then a neighbor?
        1. Lesnik
          0
          26 February 2014 02: 19
          Quote: Vital 33
          And then a neighbor?

          And who voted for him? WHO is the legally elected President?
          1. +1
            26 February 2014 02: 45
            they voted for him because he was heading for Russia and of those candidates he was the most worthy! and for whom, for the second time, it was necessary to vote for Yushchenko .... there were no more candidates! but about the decent, to be honest in the literal sense of the word, it was not!
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  48. +2
    25 February 2014 23: 45
    Vitya received a guarantee - and like a magician - "flew away in a blue helicopter."
  49. +1
    25 February 2014 23: 48
    The law is that drawbar where it went in and out.
  50. wax
    +1
    26 February 2014 00: 12
    The Constitution of 2004 is defined by the Constitutional Court as adopted with violations of the previous Constitution of 1996. And no Parliament is endowed with the powers of the Constitutional Court. Therefore, the 1996 Constitution should be in force in Ukraine now. Those. all (!) Rada decisions are anti-constitutional. Those. in Ukraine, power currently belongs to the junta, consisting of Yatsenyuk, Tyagnibok, Klitschko, Turchaninov, relying on the Right Sector (Yarosh), which performs the task of intimidating the population (the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense in one person). But the point is that the statesmen of Ukraine, who had legal power in their hands, under pressure ceased to fulfill their duties and transferred power to the hands of others, without showing a will to resist. The people of Ukraine! It is your turn to stand up for yourself, otherwise the consequences will be to disentangle millions of Ukrainians. Russia will help, but it cannot start an invasion of a sovereign country without relying on international law and previously concluded multilateral agreements.
  51. +1
    26 February 2014 01: 08
    We have released Markov, although the Svolotovites are shouting that it is not necessary.
    http://vesti.ua/odessa/39510-sud-vypustil-markova-na-svobodu
    Of course, they probably remember how they were beaten then, and he usually doesn’t keep silent
    And although he is a son of a bitch (I do not renounce the words of my past ones), he is our son of a bitch. An ardent Ukrainophobe.
    In general, now the Svolotovites want to sue all our communists and Rodinians and others... It’s clear - the leaders need to be kicked out, the parties should be banned so as not to interfere.
    1. Lesnik
      0
      26 February 2014 02: 20
      Yes, the fact of the matter is that the “Svolotovites” were in the minority on the Maidan
    2. Lesnik
      -1
      26 February 2014 02: 23
      Quote: Cristall
      We have released Markov, although the Svolotovites are shouting that it is not necessary.
      http://vesti.ua/odessa/39510-sud-vypustil-markova-na-svobodu
      Of course, they probably remember how they were beaten then, and he usually doesn’t keep silent
      And although he is a son of a bitch (I do not renounce the words of my past ones), he is our son of a bitch. An ardent Ukrainophobe.
      In general, now the Svolotovites want to sue all our communists and Rodinians and others... It’s clear - the leaders need to be kicked out, the parties should be banned so as not to interfere.

      A THIEF SHOULD SIT IN PRISON - Zhiglov said and I don’t give a fuck who he is for if he is a THIEF and a BANDIT
      1. +1
        26 February 2014 02: 41
        he is not a bandit, he beat Bandera because he came to Odessa to spoil the monument! this is the first! find a thief, show me a politician or any person who, if possible, does not take a bribe or does not want to earn more!? petty hooliganism is something that every person has had more than once in their life, these are fights...... and Markov was imprisoned for political reasons when he left the Party of Regions and supported the customs union! if in your opinion he was a bandit and such a villain, then he would have been imprisoned under Gurvits when he allegedly committed this since Gurvits did not support him and when he was imprisoned by Markov, Gurvits spoke a lot about him on the air and when Gurvits was told why you him he didn’t imprison you, you were the mayor, he shut up!!!
  52. +1
    26 February 2014 02: 05
    Hurray for Markov! and tomorrow there will be a live broadcast of Odessa residents going to support Ilyichevsk against the Nazis and the demolition of the Lenin monument! broadcast at 13-00 Odessa time!
    http://o1.ua/
    here is the link where the show will be!
    If it doesn't work, refresh the page! Tomorrow!
    1. +2
      26 February 2014 03: 15
      Quote: HMR333
      Hurray for Markov!

      I listened to him after his release, somehow it didn’t inspire me... Although, a person after his release must figure it out some more...
      1. +1
        26 February 2014 03: 53
        Quote: Russ69
        Listened to him after being released
        Russ69 thanks for the video hiLet's see how it affects the situation..!
  53. +1
    26 February 2014 02: 19
    Yanukovych is a pathetic, thieving scoundrel, like several hundred other rich people. There is no point in pitying or justifying them. But the fraternal people are another matter. We need to lend a helping hand. Moreover, they ask you not to abandon them
  54. +3
    26 February 2014 03: 04
    In Transcarpathia, people are also seeing the light...

    February 25 2014

    They decided that they are the real owners here?

    The editorial mail of our publication received a letter from the head of the Transcarpathian patriotic organization of “Carpathian Russians” Joseph Fedelesh. In it, an ultimatum is announced to the Right Sector and other organizations of unknown origin. Here is the text of this letter, which we publish without changes.

    - Due to the fault of thoroughly corrupt officials, our native land - Transcarpathia - is today engulfed in the flames of civil war. The news resembles reports from the battlefields. Under the pretext of lustration of power, violence, looting, extortion, and kidnapping are flourishing. The events of recent days have shown that the police and the SBU are not able to restore order in the region, where the “real owners” of the region have become bandits who are hiding under the “guise” of “Right Sector” and other organizations of unknown origin.

    We, Transcarpathians, are being exchanged for lucrative positions and seats in high government offices. But we also know how to fight.

    We, members of the Transcarpathian patriotic organization of “Carpatho-Russians”, demand that within 48 hours:

    1 The police and other law enforcement agencies mobilized all employees to ensure order in the region.

    2 Heads of councils at all levels (regional, district, city), regardless of party affiliation, resign.

    3 Free all administrative buildings from self-proclaimed “mayors” and other drunken trash.

    4 Prohibit the actions of all radical nationalist groups that infringe on the rights and freedoms of national minorities in Transcarpathia.

    5 Deputies of the Verkhovna Rada to appoint re-elections to all local government bodies in the Transcarpathian region.

    All politicians of Transcarpathia and their pocket “field commanders” must remember once and for all: power in Transcarpathia belongs to Transcarpathians and, if necessary, we will prove it by force. Remember, we know where you live, what cars you drive, what saunas you use.

    The ultimatum is counted down from 00:01 25.02.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX.

    Head of the Transcarpathian patriotic organization "Carpatho-Russians", Joseph Fedelesh

    Note that, according to the ultimatum, the countdown has begun...

    "New Transcarpathia"
  55. Power
    0
    26 February 2014 03: 55
    The fish rots from the head, the country rots from the betrayal of the president.
  56. +1
    26 February 2014 05: 07
    Please note that Tymoshenko made a face on the Maidan and walked away....
    Question: WHY?!
    Perhaps he is waiting for the graters to begin in the Rada and this whole bunch will be recognized as a gang that overthrew the true government! (and the fact that the graters can begin is 75% out of 100, since Bandera’s followers are not on the same path with the communists, and the Russian bloc cannot be ignored, since at least a third of the entire country speaks Russian)....
    So something like this...
  57. +2
    26 February 2014 06: 03
    Another clear proof that a weak person cannot be placed at the helm of the state. Yanukovych would have dispersed the rally in November-December 2013 and there would have been no casualties or borders on the Maidan.
    But by and large, the situation would not have happened if not for the system of extortions and redistribution arranged by Yanukovych. The Maidan would have died out if the population (including the people of Kiev) had not supported the Maidanists. Residents were fed up with corruption and redistribution, Donetsk people came everywhere, but instead of caring about the people, they were busy caring about their own wallets, and we still need to see how much money they and the structures under their control transferred outside of Ukraine.
    It’s bad that Westerners blame Russia for everything and are trying with all their might to go to the West, even to the detriment of Ukraine’s national interests.
  58. +2
    26 February 2014 06: 39
    What difference does it make now who and how many times violated the Constitution of Ukraine! One thing is clear - Yanukovych betrayed everyone (Berkut, the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, his party and supporters, the eastern regions, etc.). He himself outlawed himself by his actions, abandoning the country at a critical moment to be torn to pieces by the radicals. He will definitely not be saved in Donetsk and Donbass. Look for it in Europe. With the money he stole, any patrons will accept him...
  59. +3
    26 February 2014 07: 21
    And also, apparently, a new power structure has appeared - the Gestapo

    Well, if the cops behave this way, then why should the rest of us care? But they could have crossed this Western rabble to their mother’s mother. Bydlyak Khokhlyatsky, damn it...
  60. 0
    26 February 2014 07: 25
    If they do not sign an association with the EU in the near future, they will be dispersed by those who paid for the Maidan!
    And they are going to rule a country in which a third speak Russian, despite the fact that this same third should also be present in power!
    The question is not who will win (even a cat understands this), but how long the current obscurantism will drag on...
  61. 0
    26 February 2014 08: 23
    Here! You can immediately see that the author is a lawyer, everything is clear and to the point! But the impression is that Sergey is generally the only lawyer, and there are no more lawyers either in Ukraine, or in Europe, or in Russia :((

"Right Sector" (banned in Russia), "Ukrainian Insurgent Army" (UPA) (banned in Russia), ISIS (banned in Russia), "Jabhat Fatah al-Sham" formerly "Jabhat al-Nusra" (banned in Russia) , Taliban (banned in Russia), Al-Qaeda (banned in Russia), Anti-Corruption Foundation (banned in Russia), Navalny Headquarters (banned in Russia), Facebook (banned in Russia), Instagram (banned in Russia), Meta (banned in Russia), Misanthropic Division (banned in Russia), Azov (banned in Russia), Muslim Brotherhood (banned in Russia), Aum Shinrikyo (banned in Russia), AUE (banned in Russia), UNA-UNSO (banned in Russia), Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people (banned in Russia), Legion “Freedom of Russia” (armed formation, recognized as terrorist in the Russian Federation and banned), Kirill Budanov (included to the Rosfinmonitoring list of terrorists and extremists)

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