The head of the Moscow community of the Crimean Tatars: "Russian - former slaves, hereditary slaves." On the threat of the revival of the Crimean Tatar predator

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Crimean Tatars forgot about historical lessons of 1783 and 1944 Instead of living quietly in the Crimean lands, which they might not have seen, they again actively join the ranks of the enemies of Russian civilization and the Russian people. The head of the Moscow fraternity of the Crimean Tatars called the Russians “hereditary slaves”, and his relatives in the Crimea actively oppose plans to return Crimea to the bosom of a united Russia.

Recently, the head of the Moscow community of the Crimean Tatars Ernst Kudusov publicly announced Russian "hereditary slaves." Mr. Kudusov did not make this statement anywhere in the kitchen with his associates, but during his speech on the Russian Public Television. This fact well shows all the freedom that all kinds of representatives of the so-called “fifth column” have in the Russian Federation. They openly form the information field of the country in favor of Western and Islamic projects.

Kudusov, answering the question of the presenter, how much the Crimean peninsula, in his opinion, is divided between the "Russian-speaking" and the Crimean Tatar population, said: "We will have to turn to history a little bit." According to him, “the Crimean Tatar people are an indigenous people” and this is a repressed people. In the 1944 year in Crimea, “not a single Crimean Tatar was left. Stalin decided to destroy the Crimean Tatars because this is not a servile people, he never knew slavery. But Stalin was used to controlling slaves. Therefore, he really liked the Russians - former slaves, hereditary slaves. Millennial slavery, you can’t do anything here. ”

According to Kudusov, currently the Crimean Tatar population is being helped by hostility between Ukrainians and Russians. The “Russian-speaking” population is in favor of joining the Crimea to Russia. But neither the Ukrainians nor the Crimean Tatars "will not want this and will in every way impede this," said the head of the Moscow association of the Crimean Tatars.

Kudusov repeated those “black myths” that were stuffed by our people during the years of “perestroika” and the victory of “liberalism” (in fact, liberal-fascism) in 1991 year. This is the myth of the "natural slavery" of Russians (The black myth of the "Russian slavery"), his “millennial slavery”, “innocently repressed” Crimean Tatars, etc.

However, historical facts say that the Russian people have never been a slave. A slave by nature is cowardly, cruel and greedy. This is especially true of the “natural slave,” that is, the one who has already been born a slave. Former free warrior Spartak gave the Roman slave system a real battle. The Russian people, as history shows, are a warrior people, a laborer, an ascetic and creator.

The “centuries-old slavery” of the Russian people is a myth that is used in the information war against Russia. Thus, the well-known serfdom, which was established in the XVIII century (therefore, the distributors of the idea of ​​a “thousand-year-old slavery” were lying from the very beginning), was not a classic slavery that was spread in the West. Serfdom was a system that had to be created to ensure national security and independence of the country. Russia lived for centuries in conditions of constant wars, one invasion followed another. A system was needed that would keep society in constant mobilization. The state treasury could not draw huge military spending. Therefore, one part of the population pulled the state service, mainly military, and had to close the vital centers of Russia with a breast at any moment. Another part of the population carried a tax - a set of duties and taxes, with the help of which they fed the landowners (warriors) and supported the state economy. In essence, everyone was “serfs” - and the landowners, who, at the first call of the sovereign, had to stand in line and shed blood in the fight against enemies, give their lives for the Motherland, and the peasantry, the townspeople, and the sovereign, who had served Russia all his life to the people. Such a system was a vital necessity in the context of constant geopolitical tensions and wars on the northwestern, western, southern and eastern borders.

This system degenerated only to the 1762 year, when the Manifesto on the Freedom of the Nobility was adopted (“On granting freedom and freedom to the entire Russian nobility”). The manifesto was signed during his short reign by Emperor Peter III and approved in 1785 by Empress Catherine II (“Letters to the Nobility”). One of the main elements of the system, the nobility, was exempt from compulsory 25-year civil or military service, could resign before the end of his service life and go abroad. Nobles in the Russian Empire became a "freestyle gentry." The peasants were not exempt from service. The justice of the system was destroyed. Moreover, in almost all emperors, beginning with Catherine the Great, they developed projects for the liberation of the peasantry from serfdom, but did not dare to carry out a reform. Russia could not afford the "freedom" and individualism of the West. To survive and grow, the unity of society was necessary.

In addition, it is worth noting the fact that not all the peasants were serfs. In the 19th century, the percentage of serfdom was constantly falling. According to the 10 audit of 1858, the proportion of serfs in the entire population of Russia decreased to 37%. Many areas never knew serfdom, or the percentage of serfs there was very small.

We must not forget that the serfs were never slaves, "speaking instruments", as in the West and its colonies. In particular, among the serfs there was a group of serf millionaires. Millionaire peasants were richer than their official owners and even lent them money.

With serious mistakes of the management corps, the peasants responded with large-scale peasant wars, dozens of riots and uprisings. "Russian slaves" broke the backbone of the most famous world conquerors, "invincible warriors", "people of the first grade." The Russian people destroyed the legions of Napoleon, the European hordes of Hitler, saved the planet from an inferno breakthrough in the Third Reich, saved the planet from new large-scale wars for decades. "Hereditary slaves" were able to create and protect from enemies the biggest power on planet Earth.

Stalin knowingly “liked the Russians very much”: they are the imperial people, the warrior people and the toilers. With good governance, Russians are capable of real miracles that hit the whole world. Parasites and predators are covered in cold sweat, and honest people look at Russia with hope when Russians remind all of humanity that good always triumphs over evil.

Representatives of the Crimean Tatars would have long since become good neighbors for the Russian people - yes, precisely a long time ago, even after the defeat of 1783. Take the example of the Kazan Tatars, who, before 1552, were ardent enemies to the Russians and brought Russia much grief. But then they began to actively build together with the Russians a great empire (a common “Horde”), showed many examples of devotion and heroism. They became part of the core of the Russian super-ethnos, adopted the Russian language and culture as their own.

The Crimean Tatars have kept their predatory essence. During the Eastern (Crimean) War, they began to massively side with the interventionists (Betrayal of the Crimean Tatars during the Eastern War). Only the humanity of Alexander II, who pardoned them, saved them from a well-deserved expulsion from the Crimea. During the turmoil that began in 1917, the Crimean Tatar nationalists immediately set out to restore their statehood. Moreover, their “national liberation struggle” met with ardent support from the Ukrainian separatists in the person of the Central Rada. As we see, in this issue the current ideological heirs of Bandera and the Crimean ethno-separatists maintain continuity.

The Provisional Government could not restrain the separatist offensive, rather, on the contrary, supported them with its lack of will and destructive actions. After the victory of the Bolsheviks in Petrograd, the Crimean nationalists began to actively prepare for the seizure of power on the peninsula. To fight the Soviet regime, the Crimean Tatars entered into an alliance with the Ukrainian nationalists. To suppress the separatist insurrection, it was necessary to use force. Ethnic separatist leaders were killed or fled to Turkey.

The next blow to the back of Russia, the Crimean Tatars inflicted upon the capture of the Crimea by German troops in April 1918 of the year. The separatists immediately rebelled against the Soviet regime. The uprising was accompanied by robbery and atrocities against the Bolsheviks and Christians. During the stay of the Germans in the Crimea, the Crimean Tatars served as servants. The Germans created a puppet government. However, the German government in the Crimea was short-lived.

Soon new invaders appeared on the peninsula - the British and French. The main base of the interventionists became Sevastopol. The “foreign rescuers” were enthusiastically welcomed by the new puppet “Crimean regional government” and the delegation of the Crimean Tatars. But in the spring of 1919, the Red Army beat off the peninsula. True, not for long. In the summer, the White Guards ousted the Reds from the Crimea. Denikin did not feel sympathy for the Crimean Tatars. Therefore, the Crimean Tatars could not continue the struggle for "independence". Before a serious opponent, they passed. Many prominent nationalists were arrested. Insulted separatists began to look for new owners - they offered Pilsudsky a mandate over Crimea. The Polish General Staff actively collaborated with the Crimean Tatar emigration. However, the Southern Front solved this problem: the Red Army occupied the Crimea in November 1920 of the year.

The next opportunity to stab a knife into the back of Russia-USSR at the Crimean Tatars appeared in the years of the Great Patriotic War. As soon as the front approached the Crimea, desertion and surrender among the Crimean Tatars became widespread. Crimean Tatars were waiting for the arrival of the Germans and were not going to fight with them. The German command promised to create the Crimean autonomy within the German Empire. From among the prisoners of the Crimean Tatars, they began to actively prepare agents who were bombarded on the peninsula to enhance anti-Soviet and pro-Hitler activities. The Red Army units, staffed by Crimean Tatars, proved to be incapable, and when the German troops entered the peninsula, the overwhelming majority of their personnel deserted. Desertion was almost universal. In a number of cases, the Crimean Tatars attacked the retreating Soviet troops, smashing the partisan food bases that they had created in case of war.

From the very first days of the arrival of the German invaders to the peninsula, the servitude of the Crimean Tatars to enemies began. The Soviet partisans in the Crimea were opposed not only by the Germans, but also by the Crimean Tatars. They had to fight in a doubly difficult situation. “Muslim committees” began work on creating structures for de-Sovietization (together with the physical liquidation of the communists and the Soviet activists) and the fascization of the Crimea. The process of creating volunteer formations to fight partisans began. To help the Germans collected money.

Crimean Tatars began to be actively involved in the creation of Crimean Tatar formations consisting of Wehrmacht, SS punitive and guard battalions, the local police apparatus and the field gendarmerie, the prison apparatus and camps. In addition, in the mountainous and wooded areas of the peninsula, self-defense detachments were actively created. They took an active part in the fight against partisans and punitive operations.

Crimean Tatars betrayed the USSR and suffered a well-deserved punishment. After the liberation of the Crimea from the Nazis, 18-20 in May 1944, by the decision of the State Committee of Defense, the Crimean Tatar population was evicted from the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic. However, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR recognized in 1967 that after the liberation of Crimea from 1944 in the year of German occupation, the facts of active cooperation with the occupiers of a certain part of the Tatars living in Crimea "were unreasonably attributed to the entire Tatar population of Crimea". Later, in 1989, the USSR Supreme Soviet deported the Crimean Tatars and declared the deportation of the Crimean Tatars “illegal and criminal”.

Crimean Tatars again raised their heads. During the years of the existence of “independent Ukraine”, they actively supported all steps aimed at de-Sovietisation and de-Russification of the state. At the same time, they established contacts with foreign Islamist centers, with Turkey. Crimean-Tatar militants are involved in the Syrian war on the side of the gangs.

Now the time has come for the next stage to solve the “Russian question” on the territory of Russian civilization. The Crimean Tatars are again ready to take the side of the neo-Nazi Bandera, act as a weapon for the masters of the West, who, in fact, are the directors and sponsors of the current "Ukrainian revolution."

So, recently the head of the Majlis (Parliament) of the Crimean Tatars Refat Chubarov spoke out against the secession of the Crimea from Ukraine. The head of the Majlis said that "the Crimean Tatars will not allow the realization of the" statements "of such politicians as Konstantinov." Let me remind you that the head of the Crimean autonomy’s parliament, Vladimir Konstantinov, did not rule out the possible separation of Crimea from Ukraine in connection with the Kiev events. According to Chubarov, "the Crimean Tatars simply will not allow it to be done." Chubarov promised to preserve the unity of Ukraine.

In fact, this is frank hypocrisy. It is profitable for the leaders of the Crimean separatists to be part of Ukraine, which is on a pro-Western and neo-Nazi course. The leaders of the Crimean Tatars agree with the policy of de-Sovietization and de-Russification of Ukraine, which they are planning to finally separate from the single Russian civilization. Russian fate awaits Russian in the Baltic States: they will be people of the second (third) grade. Some will be forced out to Russia, others will be assimilated in two or three generations with the help of total “Ukrainization”. At this stage, the goals of neo-Nazis and Crimean ethno-separatists coincide. Then, the Crimean Tatars, with the support of Turkey and the United States, will create an “autonomy”, which will be a tool in the struggle against Russia. There will be a kind of birth of the new Crimean Khanate, which will exploit the local "Russian-cultural" and participate in the war against Russia. The war will be fought on the informational, ideological fronts, as well as in the course of various “marsh riots” and speeches of ethnic separatists in Russia.

We must not forget that the Crimean separatists and Ukrainian Bandera in Russia have good allies. So, Tatar national separatists in Russia have already declared that the new Ukraine will serve as an example for them. And they will now wait for "solving the problems of the Crimean Tatar people." Tatar nationalists The brothers Rafis and Nafis Kashapov, who had previously been noted by a number of anti-Russian statements, published on the Milliet portal of the All-Tatar Public Center a congratulation to the "people of Ukraine on their victory in Euromaidan." According to the leaders of the Tatar nationalists, they "admire the courage and heroism of ordinary participants in Euromaidan." They congratulated the leaders of the Ukrainian revolution on victory: Tymoshenko, Klitschko, Yatsenyuk, Tyagnibok, Turchinov, leader of the Crimean Tatar Mejlis Mustafa Dzhemilev, deputy of the Supreme Council of Crimea Refat Chubarov.

Tatar nationalists from Russia participate in the war in Syria on the side of the gangs supported by the Arab monarchies and the states of the West. Tatar nationalists of Tatarstan and Siberian regions took part in power actions of “Euromaidan”, in the storming of state institutions. Islamists and ethno-separatists, relying on the powerful social base represented by the huge army of migrants of Russia, represent a terrible threat to the national security of Russia. Obviously, they are all the "fifth column" in Russia, which will be actively used by the West and the East (representatives of the Islamic project).

No wonder the leader of the “Right Sector”, which is now the main striking force of the militants, said that many “Russian patriots” had been trained in the ranks of his gangster army. At the same time, this organization of Ukrainian neo-Nazis, which is currently the most real force in Kiev (everything now depends on the number of bayonets and their combat capability), announced the beginning of de-Russification in Ukraine and the “transfer of the revolutionary fire” to Russia.

This is a war. It's sad to talk about it, it's hard at heart, the hardest predictions come true, but this is war. The ideological heirs of Hitler's henchmen, with the full support of the West, won the first victories in the battle for Ukraine ... Russia more than ever needs ideological mobilization. Real economic projects on new industrialization and preparation of special services and armed forces for a difficult war. As air, special operations forces are needed, ready to fight on their territory. The era of "network wars".

We are experiencing a historic moment of the unprecedented: the war is already underway, not somewhere in Syria or Libya, but in our land. In the Russian land, where our ancestors lived for thousands of years. On the ground that 70 years ago, our fathers, grandfathers and great-grandfathers freed from a terrible enemy. They paid a terrible price for it - hundreds of thousands of Soviet soldiers were killed, freeing Ukraine. In 1945-1952 I had to fight with Bandera. In that war, we won. Now the enemy is again trampling our lands, seized Kiev, plans to turn Sevastopol into a NATO base.

The enemy wants to eradicate forever the “Russianness” in the lands of Little Russia. The near future will give an answer to an important question: is Moscow ready to join the battle and win the battle incomparably more ambitious than the Olympics. In the battle for the very existence of the superethnos of the Rus and Russian civilization on Earth. If the current authorities are unable to respond to this challenge, the arrival of new Russian national leaders is inevitable. They always appear at the turn.


The head of the Moscow community of the Crimean Tatars: "Russian - former slaves, hereditary slaves." On the threat of the revival of the Crimean Tatar predator
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  1. +165
    25 February 2014 08: 01
    I read the memoirs of a former SS man who greatly praised the Crimean Tatars for the zeal that they showed the Germans, I think that almonds with them and their like are unacceptable - everywhere we retreat showing nobility to our opponents and they use it and beat us in the back secretly.

    Now the organizers of the swamp movement are trying to rock the world in MOSCOW using the same methods as in MAIDAN OF UKRAINE-IF THE AUTHORITY WILL MANIFESTATE JOINING YANUKOVICH, we will be devoured by all kinds of adventurers and crooks like NEMTSOV.
    1. +127
      25 February 2014 08: 03
      Head of the Moscow community of Crimean Tatars: “Russians are former slaves, hereditary slaves.”
      It is like inciting ethnic hatred.
      Mr. Kudusov made this statement not somewhere in the kitchen, in the circle of his associates, but during his speech on the Public Television of Russia.

      Uncle on article 282 said
      1. Actions directed to incite hatred or enmity, as well as to humiliate the dignity of a person or a group of persons on grounds of sex, race, nationality, language, origin, attitude to religion, as well as belonging to a social group, committed publicly or using funds mass information, -
      shall be punished with a fine in the amount of one hundred thousand to three hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the wage or other income of the convicted person for a period of one to two years, or by depriving them of the right to hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to three years, or by compulsory works for a term up to one hundred and eighty hours, or correctional labor for up to one year, or imprisonment for up to two years.
      2. The same acts committed:
      a) with the use of violence or with the threat of its use;
      b) a person using his / her official position;
      c) by an organized group, -
      shall be punished with a fine in the amount of one hundred thousand to five hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the wage or other income of the convicted person for a period of one to three years, or by depriving them of the right to hold certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to five years, or by compulsory works for a term from one hundred and twenty to two hundred and forty hours, or correctional labor for a period of one to two years, or imprisonment for up to five years.

      A soft article in Kazakhstan provides a real time limit for this.
      Article 164
      1. Deliberate actions aimed at inciting social, national, tribal, racial, religious hatred or hatred, insulting the national honor and dignity or religious feelings of citizens, as well as propaganda of the exclusivity, superiority or inferiority of citizens on the basis of their attitude to religion, class, national, tribal or racial affiliation, if these acts were committed publicly or using the mass media, as well as through the distribution of literature and other media that promote social, national, racial, religious hatred or strife, -

      shall be punished by a fine in the amount of up to one thousand monthly calculation indices, or by corrective labor for a term of up to two years, or imprisonment for a term of up to seven years.

      2. The same actions committed by a group of persons or repeatedly, or connected with violence or the threat of its use, as well as by a person using his official position or the head of a public association-

      shall be punished by a fine in the amount of five hundred to three thousand monthly calculation indices, or restriction of liberty for a term of up to four years, or imprisonment for a term from three to seven years with the deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for a period of up to three years or without it.

      3. The actions provided for by parts one and two of this article, entailing grave consequences, shall -

      shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of seven to twelve years with deprivation of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for a term of up to three years or without it.
      1. +73
        25 February 2014 08: 15
        Exactly!! But is it possible to send Kudusov and a hedgehog with him dalenko - dalenko, and all with forest and forest ... am
        Closer to Kolyma !!! ??? laughing hi
        1. +41
          25 February 2014 08: 43
          Quote: sscha
          Closer to Kolyma !!! ???

          Why litter the north with all kinds of rabble? Throwing him back to his freedom-loving brothers, there will refresh the historical memory, as his ancestors "hereditary slaves" had.
          1. +68
            25 February 2014 09: 00
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Throwing him back to his freedom-loving brothers, there will refresh the historical memory, as his ancestors "hereditary slaves" had.

            To Mongolia or something ??? There are so many of them in Crimea!
            In general, I want to express such an idea! How are these "slaves" - we RUSSIAN, managed to otrohat such a power as much as three quarters of the globe! And where is the greatness of the free Tatar conquerors now ???
            In my opinion, the successes of Russians in the development of territories with the successes of the Crimean Tatars can not be compared? The fact, as they say on the face !!!
            1. +50
              25 February 2014 09: 42
              Tatars, especially Crimean, need to read the story. Especially the section on the Tavroskifs, so that the question of the indigenous nationality of Crimea ceases to worry them forever.
              1. +22
                25 February 2014 15: 53
                But the Volga Tatars do not consider Crimean relatives!
                1. rezident
                  -59
                  25 February 2014 18: 11
                  And who are you to speak for them?
                  1. Dimych from Vanino
                    +7
                    26 February 2014 03: 19
                    He is the one ... who is not afraid ... to speak.
                  2. +13
                    27 February 2014 13: 55
                    Here I am, for example, a Tatar. I have relatives like Crimean Tatars. A muddy people ...
                    1. -1
                      2 March 2014 21: 00
                      Yes, they are not relatives to the Tatars, they are Turks.
                2. +6
                  26 February 2014 09: 08
                  Volga Tatars do not consider themselves Tatars either. They even renamed themselves like the Bulgars; I don’t remember what the snag was.
                3. +8
                  28 February 2014 13: 50
                  You don’t touch our Tatars, we have eaten more than one pound of salt, and they are the second largest in Russia. Those in the Crimea, closer to the Turks.
                  1. volka
                    0
                    3 March 2014 01: 37
                    That's right, no need to generalize! Even among the Crimean Tatars, there are not so many Kudus like this. After the collapse of the USSR, Muslim extremists, with threats of arson and reprisals, drove the already assimilated Crimean Tatars to the Crimea. How many of those will support the Bandera extremists! On the same site there is an interview with one of the leaders of the Crimean Tatars, not just anywhere, but in the Crimea. Section "news" subsection "opinions". The title of the article is "Crimean Tatars are asking for help in the battle against Bandera." (Link: http://topwar.ru/40480-krymskie-tatary-prosyat-pomoch-v-bitve-s-banderovcami.htm
                    l) Look at the faces of protesters with Russian flags, there are many Tatar people. And the West finances not only Bandera, but also any other extremists, if their actions are directed against Russia and other Orthodox, including in Russia itself, and there are Russians among them! We do not beat our heels in the chest, and do not shout that we are a vile nation, because we are blowing up trolleybuses and buses with passengers in our own cities! We all understand that these are apostates, and do not associate ourselves with them. So among other nations, including even Americans, there are people who think differently than the official authorities, who, by the way, are puppet dolls in the United States, fulfilling the will of super oligarchs. Therefore, one should not be likened to these very extremists and hate other nations. All ordinary people are the same, everyone wants to live in peace, and all aggression, hatred and fear are cultivated and forced artificially by a bunch of the already mentioned super oligarchs. And finally, there are hundreds of angry comments, but with only a dozen signatures on the petition to prosecute Kudusov under the relevant article! Put your righteous anger in the right direction! Let's make the authorities listen to the opinion of the people! Sign the petition, the text of which is posted on this discussion on the first page !!!
                  2. 0
                    3 March 2014 16: 23
                    The third ... The second are just Ukrainians.
              2. Viktor Shmagin
                +11
                25 February 2014 20: 53
                In those days, I was like in Feodosia, so there was a very indicative poster hanging on the station building, Tatars are your homeland of Mongolia, go home, I think it’s very fair and historical
                1. +8
                  25 February 2014 23: 49
                  So now Mongolia will not accept the Crimean Tatars, why do they need parasites and provocateurs. laughing
                  1. 0
                    3 March 2014 23: 45
                    Mongolia generally has nothing to do with any Tatars. And the real Tatars by and large do not exist at all. Their tribes under the root exterminated Chin Giz Khan. Those who are now called Tatars are the remains of different tribes, also defeated by Chin Giz Khan and fled west of him to the territory of real Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Turkey where they converted to Islam, since the main condition for their protection was the adoption of Islam. Well, when the troops of Subatei Bator conquered these states, all in a crowd, escaping, poured further west and into Crimea, including, before that their spirit was not there.
                2. +7
                  26 February 2014 09: 12
                  Mongolia has nothing to do with the Crimean Tatars.
              3. +12
                25 February 2014 21: 17
                Any, absolutely any, kind of extremism is based precisely on deception and lies. Such figures will never tell the truth, because they pursue their geopolitical interests. Now the younger generation knows nothing about history. And he doesn't really want to (I would like to emphasize NOT ALL), especially when certain figures dictate the "Historical Truth" then the matter becomes even easier. And "business" is any kind of attacks on Russia and Russians. This is an inborn genetic habit of "good neighbors". So, what is your hope (Turn to history) for those who really "need" it, unfortunately, an empty phrase. The attack on the Russian world is now "Fashionable TREND". And in order not to be left behind in this fashion, any new hysterical attack towards Russia will be even more arrogant and deceitful. Not the first time ... We will hold out.
              4. philip
                0
                2 March 2014 00: 45
                How can they read, they are not literate.
            2. +37
              25 February 2014 11: 39
              No, it’s not necessary to go to Mongolia, decent people live there and they remember our brother with a kind word. And this 5th column to the far north. There, Comrade Stalin did not have time to complete the northern railway line.
              1. +35
                25 February 2014 15: 56
                Well ... And who will now say that Grandfather Stalin was wrong. Right to 100%. Krymchaks are a shitty people, vindictive, how many times it intersected with them, so many times they became convinced.
                1. +5
                  25 February 2014 22: 00
                  And who will now say that Grandfather Stalin was wrong.


                  I will say. My personal opinion was wrong, because by his decision he violated the laws of the USSR, according to which each war criminal had to answer for what he did personally. And personally get for this what is required by the laws of wartime (remember that it was for betrayal, that is, treason to the motherland? And if you add participation in punitive detachments ...).
                  So, in my opinion, each traitor from the Crimean Tatars and Chechens had to be personally judged and judged by the results of the court. And innocent, of course, do not punish, because the court established that there is nothing.
                  I would be glad to hear the argument of those who think differently.
                  1. +19
                    25 February 2014 22: 18
                    Quote: Assistant
                    I would be glad to hear the argument of those who think differently.

                    well then, these nations would belong to endangered peoples.

                    in fact, this is precisely why they preferred eviction rather than personal responsibility.

                    too many would have to be put against the wall.
                    the male population is about 65-70 percent.

                    and whatever they say, the USSR and Russia did not and do not engage in genocide.
                    1. +6
                      26 February 2014 00: 23
                      Quote: Rider
                      too many would have to be put against the wall.
                      the male population is about 65-70 percent.


                      Exactly so, and if we take into account family members who sympathize and actively help, because they have developed clan clan, then I think all 99,9%. With the exception of those who fought at the front, in the ranks of the Red Army.
                      It was the mass collaboration among them that led to such a decision. Although to be honest, the solution is half-hearted, because they have not yet learned to erase the memory, and now all of these with good memory have returned to Crimea. Problems will be guaranteed.
                    2. +1
                      26 February 2014 01: 55
                      in fact, this is precisely why they preferred eviction rather than personal responsibility


                      It turns out that the law is something, of course, the law, but if you really want to, then draw it ...
                      And now whole nations live, convinced from their own experience that laws are not equal for everyone. And not some articles of the administrative code, but laws on war crimes.
                      1. +2
                        27 February 2014 15: 52
                        Comrade! Using "Roman law" try to prove something, for example, to the current Ukrainian authorities. I wonder how many units of time your independent nature can remain intact? Let's talk about the law only with law-abiding citizens, and not with the unbridled "public." sir!
                      2. 0
                        3 March 2014 23: 58
                        I agree completely, the laws are not equal for everyone, the Tatars were exiled for war crimes and they whine and hate the Russians for it. But the Russian Germans were exiled just like that, you live well and you haven’t been returned back to the Volga region, and none of the Germans opposes the Russians. And why? Germans are simply more cultured and prudent! Crimean Tatars regretted, but they do not appreciate it and in my opinion they will never appreciate it.
                      3. 0
                        3 March 2014 23: 58
                        I agree completely, the laws are not equal for everyone, the Tatars were exiled for war crimes and they whine and hate the Russians for it. But the Russian Germans were exiled just like that, you live well and you haven’t been returned back to the Volga region, and none of the Germans opposes the Russians. And why? Germans are simply more cultured and prudent! Crimean Tatars regretted, but they do not appreciate it and in my opinion they will never appreciate it.
                      4. 0
                        3 March 2014 23: 59
                        I agree completely, the laws are not equal for everyone, the Tatars were exiled for war crimes and they whine and hate the Russians for it. But the Russian Germans were exiled just like that, you live well and you haven’t been returned back to the Volga region, and none of the Germans opposes the Russians. And why? Germans are simply more cultured and prudent! Crimean Tatars regretted, but they do not appreciate it and in my opinion they will never appreciate it.
                  2. +3
                    26 February 2014 00: 05
                    Whenever possible, they did just that. There was no such opportunity here. To deal with everyone in 1944, when the war was still going on, and when traitors, almost all the Crimeans were. Stalin acted humanely. He didn’t shoot anyone.
                  3. old man 46
                    +3
                    26 February 2014 12: 00
                    I completely agree with you, and there is nothing to breed democracy, there must be a strong hand, an iron will and not clumble with traitors. In Ukraine, everyone was waiting for something and talked about.
                  4. +1
                    28 February 2014 19: 54
                    You will miss a small detail.
                    Crimean Tatars, like the Ingush and Chechens, still live in a clan-clan order.
                    According to their concepts, the clan is responsible for each of its members. And the whole family is obliged to retaliate in response, and the whole family must harbor.
                    And avenged and hid and betrayed.
                    Entire families.
                    Therefore, the whole family received the punishment.
                    According to the laws of war, the punishment is one - execution.
                    Let's talk about the "bloodthirstiness" of the "Stalinist regime"?
                    And they were only sent. They gave a small nation a chance to grow wiser and learn. Mala and ... non-Nazi, but who knows. For what, something is needed or suitable. They sing well. Sheep are bred. Hats are sewn.

                    Family is not so easy to get rid of.
                    If only to break families and mix.
                    Socialize as much as possible.
                    What the expulsion should have done.
                    It was not enough for some three or four decades.
                    But Stalin and Beria left and the families of the deportees were allowed to unite and return to someone.
                    Anyway. They have not yet been allowed to forget why.
                    Forty to fifty years.
                    But ...
                    In the next coup, power was seized by the labeled and under-educated in general gave freedom and forgiveness.
                    Well, that’s the result.
                  5. +1
                    3 March 2014 15: 55
                    This is a universally recognized practice - internment during the war is an unreliable element. There was no time to understand that period.
                  6. 0
                    4 March 2014 00: 20
                    And how do you separate the grains from the chaff? All war crimes occurred under the supervision of the Nazis, and not the Soviet government. How to establish who committed and who did not. After all, the Tatars have a primitive tribal clan system and they certainly will not surrender their own. And by this and everyone will be innocent, because there is no corpus delicti, although there are stupid !!! So Stalin did the right thing, digging and sorting out the deaf business, he himself was Caucasian and knew their customs well !!!
                2. +9
                  26 February 2014 13: 01
                  Comrade Stalin was a very gentle and kind person. He simply transported Tatars, Chechens, Bandera from Crimea, the Caucasus and Ukraine to Kazakhstan. But Comrade Trotsky and Comrade Frunze drowned such barges in the Black and Caspian Seas. It is a pity that Comrade Stalin did not adopt their invaluable experience.
                  1. 0
                    1 March 2014 21: 49
                    Be humane like Stalin. Pay attention to the word humane without quotes, without irony.
                    They did not have to be rehabilitated, they had to be forgiven, but these are different things. Forgive the guilty, without any compensation, rehabilitate the innocently accused, with subsequent moral and material compensation. Let’s say thanks to Khrushchev and Gorbachev, who smeared Stalin’s shit and did what they have to do today.
                    Evict them, once again and for the last time, in Bandera. Let them always seek consensus among themselves.
                    1. 0
                      4 March 2014 00: 09
                      "rehabilitate the innocent accused, with subsequent moral and material compensation." Don't make me laugh, in 1991 Yeltsin rehabilitated the Russian Germans, think about it, until 1991 we were enemies of the people !!! But there was no moral, let alone material compensation. Is this rehabilitation or not?
              2. +4
                25 February 2014 23: 08
                And someone needs to dig a tunnel to Sakhalin
              3. Dimych from Vanino
                +2
                26 February 2014 03: 26
                Head...!!!!!!!!!! I also wanted a pancake .. well, the road winked
              4. IGOR L
                +1
                26 February 2014 13: 04
                That's right, and for every filthy word they should get 1 kg of gold. And in this they will help those who ran the camps on Kolyma under Stalin.
            3. +13
              25 February 2014 13: 22
              Arberes In general, I want to express such an idea! How are these "slaves" - we RUSSIAN, managed to otrohat such a power as much as three quarters of the globe! And where is the greatness of the free Tatar conquerors now ???

              Bravo!
              1. +18
                25 February 2014 14: 29
                The “centuries-old slavery” of the Russian people is a myth that is used in the information war against Russia.

                Vladimir Medinsky. Myths about Russia. About Russian filth and democracy. About Russian drunkenness, laziness and cruelty. On the Russian threat to the "prison of peoples". Where do myths come from and who needs them. We read and rebuff any Russophobic propaganda.
                1. 0
                  28 February 2014 23: 57
                  And don’t share the reference, I really want to read his desire.
            4. +23
              25 February 2014 16: 58
              So hence all the problems (envy)! We are Russians and bast shoes, and slaves, and simply, but we built an EMPIRE, but especially advanced ones, well, for example, the Poles were almost without a country, not only from sea to sea. And again we are to blame. Crimean Tatars are also undoubtedly a people who put a huge number of "discoveries and inventions" on the scales of civilization. Cunning, greed, the ability to betray and not gratitude for not doing to them like the Americans did to the Indians. Correctly written ... as part of a combat operation, always conduct control ... and no one will shoot in the back.
              Yes, such examples are the sea. Where all the civilizers of the vanquished were knotted, we always built something, erected, taught, treated and always did.
              We are slaves of our mercy, respect for others, and not slander.
              Jews to Germans still do not forgive Germans six or how many millions there! Thirty of us were killed, but there is no hatred in our hearts. And I want to, but it turns out to be pretense.
            5. +6
              25 February 2014 23: 44
              In my opinion, the Crimean Tatars all historical life sit on some lame skate, which constantly fails them. It would be better if they lived quietly and were friends with the Russian people, and did not spray saliva in our direction, gritting their teeth. Everything they bet on disappears somewhere, and Russia lives and thrives. hi
            6. Blade
              +3
              26 February 2014 16: 49
              Quote: Arberes
              In general, I want to express such an idea! How are these "slaves" - we RUSSIAN, managed to otrohat such a power as much as three quarters of the globe! And where is the greatness of the free Tatar conquerors now ???

              I agree with you
              Americans built their nation out of bandits, prostitutes and drunkards
            7. +2
              28 February 2014 08: 23
              Crimean Tatars are not those Tatars who came from Mongolia. It is, to put it mildly, different nations gathered in one nation over time. As for the slaves, the Tatars themselves under the Turks oh how long they walked. They even couldn’t choose a khan .S Turkey appointed.
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            9. 0
              28 February 2014 12: 04
              Quote: Arberes
              In general, I want to express such an idea! How are these "slaves" - we RUSSIAN, managed to otrohat such a power as much as three quarters of the globe! And where is the greatness of the free Tatar conquerors now ???


              on this occasion it is very clearly written by Nosovsky and Fomenko, and without spaces, as in the history that is taught in schools!
              there in Russian, and not only, it is written why the Slavs once lived in Germany, how did Hungary (Ugra) appear, how one of the kings of Bulgaria bore the name Tokhta = Tokhtamysh, like Constantinople, sometimes called Kyiv.
              who were the Etruscans, where did the Huns, Scythians.

              they confirm the texts that history would be ready to hide, but have not yet managed, and as an excuse historians have to shrug their hands and shrug them. that the bible is our whole story, which was written by different people, but only some texts are available to us in the bible

              they also explain the reconstruction of Tamerlane’s head after the opening of the tomb by the Soviet forensics that he doesn’t pull on the Mongol, and that the image that turned out is drawn to the maximum of history, to which the Mongols were presented to us

              and yet, mathematicians are able to calculate the flight of a snowstorm with returning to the ground with approaching the runway, but modern historians believe that mathematicians have no right to say that the described history is much less than the years presented to us by historians

              Tatarava were simply wars, which included the texts of both Astrakhan and Kazan, and Crimeans and Cossacks

              I think the story is much simpler than the story of ancient Rome, Egypt, and China, and much more complicated than an attempt to present the Slav as a slave!
          2. +62
            25 February 2014 09: 56
            And he calmly walks around Moscow and carries nonsense. But someone represents him an office (room) for the collection of such elements, obviously for money. That's where you need to look for nits. And at least the psychiatric hospital cries for him!
            1. +25
              25 February 2014 10: 26
              Quote: Rosich
              And he calmly walks around Moscow and carries nonsense.

              Totally agree with you! hi He would have been handcuffed in some kind of western democratic country.
            2. +44
              25 February 2014 13: 57
              Quote: Rosich
              And he calmly walks around Moscow

              I always considered myself a very calm and friendly person, but .... After such publications, I begin to regret that skinheads and others did not read the same article ... Such geeks should not walk on our land, use our achievements and crap on the people who gave them the opportunity to live with dignity ... There is no place for them on our land, neither in Crimea, nor, moreover, in Moscow ... It is unfortunate that Joseph Vissarionich showed mercy to them and limited himself to eviction ... Now these creatures are poisoning our lives ...
            3. Basil123
              +9
              25 February 2014 15: 45
              Let it spread the more the better, the consolidation in society will take place faster, we will not get down until we get drunk from the stove request
              1. mnemonics
                +2
                26 February 2014 07: 32
                It is necessary to force! Close scum according to the law in places not so distant ... Look around, wait for a reaction ... But it seems you will not have to wait long. It is necessary to open rotten bubbles and cleanse the body of this infection.
            4. +1
              26 February 2014 15: 55
              Yes, I wonder why such people are generally free, this is a clear provocative and nationalistic step, which falls under the article.
          3. +7
            25 February 2014 13: 37
            Indeed, garbage is not needed there. What did he do so great to deserve Kolyma? As they say - for "this case" Vaseline still needs to be earned. Let him go to the beaches in Osmania to rest, forever.
          4. +13
            25 February 2014 17: 21
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Why clog the north with all sorts of scum?


            Wise +++
          5. Viktor Shmagin
            +1
            25 February 2014 20: 48
            But the Tatars are innate traitors, and it is the misfortune of the Russians that they very easily forgive such things and such statements. For this, expulsion from the country should be a minimum punishment
            1. +2
              25 February 2014 23: 58
              Kazan Tatars in the Second World War, along with the Russians fought against fascism ?????? hi
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          7. vlrosch
            0
            26 February 2014 09: 49
            So they are only from the North, apparently bored or have long been missing the hives.
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          9. KUBANA777
            0
            26 February 2014 22: 58
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Throwing him back to his freedom-loving brothers, there will refresh the historical memory, as his ancestors "hereditary slaves" had.

            why fish in the water .......... there are no birds in Kolyma, so in Kolyma, it’s not the Crimea where the brains are immediately cleared, but unfortunately this article will be applied only to Russian patriots who, for example, will call for this mu .. I’m lathering for such words show no tolerance
        2. gsg955
          +27
          25 February 2014 08: 45
          Tatar Untermensh doesn’t. Subsequent robbers
          useless to humanity.
          1. +29
            25 February 2014 11: 53
            Quote: gsg955
            Hereditary robbers
            useless to humanity.

            "Stalin decided to destroy the Crimean Tatars because they are not a servile people, he never knew slavery."
            And this "freedom-loving" people did not accidentally forget about the slaves of which sultan they were? Who tore their women?
            For their age-old forays into Russia, they generally had to be eradicated to zero, but we, Russians, are very good-natured people. Even the nesting places were not touched and the customs were left. In vain, probably. Now it crawled out, the Tatar "greatness" ...
            1. erdixi
              +3
              25 February 2014 23: 24
              not in vain, he achieved what he wanted, disagreement.
        3. +6
          25 February 2014 09: 49
          Apparently the one who should do this is busy with something else!
          1. +7
            25 February 2014 13: 57
            Quote: Rosich
            Rosich RU Today, 09:49 ↑ New

            Apparently the one who should do this is busy with something else!


            catches the "criminals" in the person of law-abiding citizens, they are law-abiding, they won’t be angry, and this de.r.mo only touch, shed ... negative
          2. Russkiy53
            +10
            25 February 2014 14: 49
            Yeah :), busy-Russian skins are planted :)))!
        4. +29
          25 February 2014 11: 24
          Quote: sscha
          from, here !! But whether to send Kudusov and the hedgehog with him far away - far away, and all the forest and forest ...
          Closer to Kolyma !!! ???


          Guys, it's still much easier ... We need a list of enterprises, organizations - thanks to which this "Mr." lives and start boycotting them ... He lives with us, makes money here - and our people hate ... You just need so that his business would become unprofitable here - let it go "down the wind", as Catherine the Great did in her time ...
          1. +4
            25 February 2014 20: 43
            Quote: svp67
            We need a list of enterprises, organizations - thanks to which this "Mr." lives and start boycotting them ... He lives with us, makes money here - and our people hate ... You just need to make his business not profitable here - let it go downwind

            Why complicate things so much? It would have been easier for him to arrange a specific "dark" one, so that this scum would turn into a plant and go by itself until the end of its days.
            1. ekzorsist
              +2
              25 February 2014 23: 24
              Quote: Pancho
              Why complicate things so much? It would have been easier for him to arrange a specific "dark" one, so that this scum would turn into a plant and go by itself until the end of its days.

              ... And a wild howl will begin about how the poor, good spirit is oppressed by the Russians, who again passed forged bast shoes along his delicate and delicate nature ...
              No, you just have to demonstratively and systematically "lower" all the enterprises and establishments of these "brothers in mind" to complete idiocy and "I cannot" so that they themselves strangle this gnome with their own hands and at the same time rejoice.
              1. 0
                26 February 2014 21: 17
                Quote: ekzorsist
                And a wild howl will begin about how miserable, good spirit the Russians oppress,

                The dog barks, the caravan goes.
        5. +8
          25 February 2014 12: 53
          With the correct formulation of the case, the region of Kolyma and Magadan will become a prosperous region. And we are racking our brains, how to equip the country? Wishing it is a breakthrough. Only the bastard people, doesn’t want to work voluntarily, but wants to scream in the squares of Moscow, and at the same time eat sweetly and sleep softly. Although, I hope, technology has not been lost ...
          1. RusSever
            +4
            25 February 2014 14: 39
            Responsibly, I declare that there are some places in the North-East of the country where, at minimal cost, the infrastructure can be deployed in the shortest possible time, waiting for vacationers on trips (free of charge). However, these places should be ennobled by people at the call of the heart and love for this Earth :) :). The contingent in question should work at the location by coercion :)
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        8. kripto
          +14
          25 February 2014 17: 13
          You’ve already got the gentlemen))) How can you not read, so all the woofs ... oh, you must certainly send to Siberia, what’s the garbage in our country? In the Arctic, not all airfields have yet been built, and beds with greenhouses on the northern islands have not yet been seen.
        9. ekzorsist
          0
          25 February 2014 23: 16
          Quote: sscha
          Exactly!! But is it possible to send Kudusov and a hedgehog with him dalenko - dalenko, and all with forest and forest ...


          I.V. Stalin (about which these individuals have not yet completely forgotten) made it easier and more efficient ... and they also cleaned his boots with his purely Muslim beards.
        10. +2
          25 February 2014 23: 58
          Chatter is all: "send, away" They spat on these promises. And that is why our weak-willed and powerless authorities really do not completely suppress such statements, moreover, made publicly on television or in the media ?! Where is our power? Where is Putin? Why doesn't he talk about anything besides the Olympic Games? Why is he silent? He was silent when the Kursk died. was silent when the children of Beslan died. And again he is silent.
        11. AVV
          +1
          26 February 2014 00: 28
          Quote: sscha
          Exactly!! But is it possible to send Kudusov and a hedgehog with him dalenko - dalenko, and all with forest and forest ... am
          Closer to Kolyma !!! ??? laughing hi

          Militiamen need to comply with Russian laws, and this fucking thing needs to be sent in stages, and all Crimean Tatars must be deported to the Saudis !!!
        12. 0
          26 February 2014 06: 46
          Quote: sscha
          Closer to Kolyma !!!


          And if you think carefully?
          No, you understand correctly, we are glad to everyone, everyone - honest, decent, educated and hardworking, and no matter what nationality. We still have to raise and raise the Far East, why do we need a fifth column ?! We would have to do with the Chinese ... Neither in Siberia, nor in the Kolyma and all the Far East such figures are needed. Therefore, invite to your home and "re-educate", do not hesitate! :)) hi
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      3. +18
        25 February 2014 08: 21
        Yes, I think this Crimean Tatars idiot is an idiot.
        1. aleks2102
          +8
          25 February 2014 08: 46
          but they didn’t get to tear him away
        2. avt
          +10
          25 February 2014 09: 44
          Quote: 31231
          Yes, I think this Crimean Tatars idiot is an idiot.

          laughing This is how they go to the rally in Simferopol and chant in chorus - “Kudusov” !?
          1. +12
            25 February 2014 10: 53
            Quote: avt
            This is how they go to the rally in Simferopol and chant in chorus - "Kudusov" !?

            Yesterday I called up with Yalta, the uncle says that they raised their heads cool there. And they are for separation from the Crimea, only for the creation of the Tatar Crimea. The mayor of Yalta has escaped.
          2. smersh70
            +5
            25 February 2014 13: 34
            Quote: avt
            e and chant in chorus - "Kudusov"!

            somewhere I met this surname))) aah, remembered Colonel Kudasov, head of counterintelligence in Crimea wassat it means who he is, the right provocateur. and ....
        3. +13
          25 February 2014 11: 57
          Ernst Kudusov, the head of the Moscow fraternity of Crimean Tatars, publicly declared the Russians "hereditary slaves."

          Let it tell in the eyes of my husband and sons - a very long time in a cast. And then, with my daughter, we will also wrap it there!
          Yes, I think this Crimean Tatars idiot is an idiot.

          So let him silence him. Or together will fall under the distribution.
          1. +4
            25 February 2014 15: 20
            Let it say in the eyes of my husband and sons - he will spend a very long time in a cast

            There are worthy men and sons in Russia. Gypsum is not enough traitors to wrap. And gypsum is too humane for them. They don’t understand.
        4. acute
          +3
          25 February 2014 13: 30
          don't tell me. very good opinions about him. he’s like a rooster. No strength, but full of hatred
          1. +5
            25 February 2014 15: 59
            What, already retouched? laughing
      4. 225chay
        +16
        25 February 2014 08: 34
        Quote: Canep
        Head of the Moscow community of Crimean Tatars: “Russians are former slaves, hereditary slaves.” It is like inciting ethnic hatred.


        It seems that without approval from above from the Kremlin such statements would not have been born. Why does the Kremlin allow such govnovbrosy?
        1. +9
          25 February 2014 08: 52
          And to know who is who.
        2. +5
          25 February 2014 14: 55
          Quote: 225chay
          Why does the Kremlin allow such govnovbrosy?

          And when the Crimea will be annexed again, so that the work goes on more quickly.
          Negative motivation so to speak.
        3. bilgesez
          0
          25 February 2014 17: 12
          In the Kremlin, the most important Russophobes gathered.
      5. +14
        25 February 2014 09: 17
        Quote: Canep
        lava of the Moscow community of Crimean Tatars: “Russians are former slaves, hereditary slaves.”


        Quote: Canep
        It's like stirring up ethnic hatred

        If Kudusov is not asked for this, then this will be a spit on the part of the authorities.
        Actually, this is not the most successful statement. To reproach the imperial nation with slavery is at least foolish, but such reproaches are a direct insult to an entire nation and cannot be forgiven. This trickster is the head of the Moscow community? Foul broom !!!
        1. Viktor Shmagin
          +1
          25 February 2014 21: 03
          But we must file a lawsuit against him, and we will see what the court decides; the editors of VO agree, if they only fine him, I’ll share
      6. avt
        +13
        25 February 2014 09: 40
        Quote: Canep
        It is like inciting ethnic hatred.

        Just like!? request In general, it’s good that it broke, but in the media of this “head of the community.” Such statements by any available means should be conveyed to as many people as possible. EVERYONE should know that there are these “communities”, national diasporas. " for pathos - these are open ulcers on the body of Russia from which specifically gangrene can come and we will cut off the country in parts! For the glory of tolerance, which different Shevchenko women with jamals impose on us. And Gerber, holding his bones together, gets out from time to time on TV.
        1. Russkiy53
          +6
          25 February 2014 14: 53
          In Stavropol already-gangrene!
      7. +19
        25 February 2014 10: 08
        I immediately have a question: WHAT is he still doing free ??? And what is he still in Moscow ??? Russians put this Islamist face in jail for inciting!
        1. avt
          +15
          25 February 2014 10: 45
          Quote: T80UM1
          I immediately have a question: WHAT is he still doing free ??? And what is he still in Moscow ???

          As one Wahhabi Chechen woman said in a TV show to the late Kadyrov during the second campaign, when asked, “What are you doing here?” “I'm here in emigration!” Well, at the expense of putting on the 282nd ... Firstly, this article of the Criminal Code "Russian", and secondly, he only spoke, so to speak, in a historical context, but if he did jogging in the morning in Ostankino Park in a T-shirt with an inscription, , RUSSIAN MEANS SOBER ", well then the corpus delicti is obvious.
        2. vsa-xnumx
          0
          25 February 2014 18: 54
          put this Islamist face in jail for inciting!


          And that in Moscow the sniper ended? Slap s-ku and business then.
          1. +1
            26 February 2014 05: 22
            Sorry for interrupting the conversation: I, too, didn’t ride a pacifist, but BUT it would be more fair to do so with a full set of evidence, convict of a lie in order to incite ... and the punishment in the form of cutting off a crime instrument. This is about him deceitful language. Didn’t get it? He began to scribble pamphlets? Chuck! - little hand!
            Or am I misunderstanding the word "justice"?
      8. +16
        25 February 2014 12: 49
        So they will not jail and even threaten. They will pretend not to notice. And that's all they need. Gradually, the boat will sway, and before we can blink an eye, swastikas will paint on the walls of the Kremlin. You can minus. Only Lenin's words - "procrastination is like death ..." are now as relevant as ever! Stop acting like a fool with the foul word democracy, and forgiving any German and bulk criminals.
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      11. acute
        +6
        25 February 2014 13: 26
        He tried to shut up his mouth in the studio. after which he was deprived of the opportunity to speak. Insolent. rampant natsik. He must be driven out of Russia without the right of entry
      12. +6
        25 February 2014 14: 27
        Quote: Canep
        Uncle on article 282 said

        This article of the Criminal Code is valid only against the Russians. It does not apply to other nations. We have a tolerant government.
      13. +7
        25 February 2014 17: 25
        Only with us under article 282 are they planting exclusively Russians. For whom do they work
        "law enforcement" agencies?
      14. +1
        25 February 2014 17: 59
        This old goat Ernest Kudusov must be forced to answer for the rotten market! So that others are not disagreeable! am
      15. fedorovith
        +4
        25 February 2014 19: 17
        All the same, Moscow warmed up the junk and everything is fine, cleaning is needed from this ...
        1. +2
          26 February 2014 00: 06
          These scum themselves fly to Moscow, like flies to honey, to Moscow, and not to the states and not Germany. So it’s better here ??? request
          1. acute
            0
            26 February 2014 13: 24
            They earn their image here, and they’ll work out the loot
      16. georg737577
        +1
        25 February 2014 19: 41
        Many of those who speak about Ukraine on this site are subject to the articles you specify ... Be consistent.
      17. +4
        25 February 2014 22: 15
        What is 282 for non-Russian? 282 is a Russian article, if some social activist said something like this about the Tatars, such a howl would rise. And you can say anything about Russians.
      18. stroporez
        +2
        26 February 2014 07: 36
        Quote: Canep
        Uncle on article 282 said
        ------ Yes, it’s right. The sho will be for him ......... this article is exclusively for Russian ........
      19. 0
        26 February 2014 12: 31
        Is there an address for this snitch? It would be necessary to lay out in the public domain with a comment what and why.
      20. Rem
        Rem
        0
        26 February 2014 21: 11
        the rigor of Russian law is offset by the non-binding
      21. 0
        28 February 2014 01: 07
        Russophobe to the answer
        Prosecutor's Office of the Russian Federation
        On the initiation of a criminal case against the Head of the Moscow community of Crimean Tatars Ernst Kudusov under Part 1 of Art. 282 of the Criminal Code

        On February 17, 2014 at 13:28, the head of the Moscow community of Crimean Tatars Ernst Kudusov, speaking on the air of the ORT program "Right, Yes," called the Russians "... slaves, hereditary slaves ...", thereby, on the basis of a deliberately unfair presentation of historical facts , made statements degrading the dignity of a group of persons on the basis of nationality and origin, committed in public using the media. The video recording of the speech is posted on the website of the Russian Public Television at the address http://www.otr-online.ru/programmi/programmparts_18227.html. Based on the foregoing, I demand to initiate a criminal case against the Head of the Moscow community of Crimean Tatars Ernst Kudusov on the grounds of Part 1 of Art. 282 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.

        http://www.otr-online.ru/programmi/programmparts_18227.html

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        1. +2
          28 February 2014 02: 47
          In response to a letter from Eloghlu.
          "And what is it - the Russians were slaves. America was discovered. What does Russian mean - that is, the man of the Rus (Varangian), his slave. That is what your ancestors called themselves. He told the truth. You are the descendants of slaves. In English, the translation of the word slave, that is Slav. You are the descendants of slaves and this is your story. You do not like it. But your state was built by the Turks. The ancestors of the Crimean Tatars, etc. "

          Where are you hiding a respected Turk. To teach you is like fish on ice and peas on the wall.
          First, in Latin, slave = "Sclavus", and "slave" you took from Wikipedia? So there the morphology is dual and indicates that you reptiles should have been crushed for a long time so that the peaceful Slavic fields would not be robbed, and not just doomed the unreasonable to swords and fires. We are kind, so we suffer for this. War slavery is not voluntary. They loved your brother very much in the harems: -khs You were slaves, and you have remained, since slave psychology is to look for an owner and dream of your own slaves.
          Secondly, the dates of slavery are here on the site below.
          Thirdly, the Varangian is not a nationality, but a profession = a merchant, a merchant. However, you are forgiven, you are not Russian, i.e. German. and you don’t understand the intricacies of the language. Otherwise, you are the same "historian" as Kubusov or Murtazaliev http://newsland.com/news/detail/id/1030885/. Yes, it's good for you to explain something. A Pharisee is a profession and the Turks have already acquired "European values".
      22. 0
        2 March 2014 15: 25
        Kudos wrong Tatar, the next sing along amers.
    2. SSR
      +14
      25 February 2014 08: 13
      And how they licked the British and Koh’s ass, they were even taken aback by such zeal, though later they realized that they had vainly served. What did the Crimean Tatars bring to the world of peace? Zero.
    3. +20
      25 February 2014 08: 19
      In Chechnya, 1994 of the year, they already said something like that. Not much remains of those who screamed.
      1. +22
        25 February 2014 08: 42
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        In Chechnya, 1994 of the year, they already said something like that. Not much remains of those who screamed.
        Sasha hi ! Whoever hurts for that and says, here is the slave Kudusov about his slavery and deigned to share .. And according to the idea after such a "performance" he should already rest on the bunk. Those in power who hold onto tolerance and liberalism have zadolbali, everything should have a reasonable chapel. These Kudusovs are already openly spitting in the face of Russia, and they silently flow around ...
      2. Ivan Petrovich
        +1
        25 February 2014 09: 47
        Well, yes, the militants have not disappeared, they are now in power
        and Chechens' opinions about Russians have not changed either
        the more we pay them tribute and not small
    4. Sergey411
      +9
      25 February 2014 08: 26
      These are not SS memories. This is Manstein's memoir, Lost Victories. This is really very good about the Crimean Tatars. But the Russian Orthodox priest also gave him a cane. The stump is clear that this representative of the community with Russophobic views in the Russian Federation has nothing to do, and even more so to make money. His descendants only did that for 300 years they drove peaceful peasants into slavery. It's a shame that because of such monsters the name of an entire nation is stained. If you don't know, read about Ahmet Khan Sultan. I wonder what the main countryman thinks about him.
      1. +18
        25 February 2014 08: 54
        The head of the Moscow community of Crimean Tatars called the Russians “hereditary slaves”,

        That's just the opposite, it is the Crimean Tatars who constantly subservient to the powers that be. Jackals, what else can you say.
    5. +5
      25 February 2014 10: 20
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I read the memoirs of a former SS man. He greatly praised the Crimean Tatars.

      I can still recall Manstein - this was accepted by the Tatars in Crimea as a liberator
      1. mamba
        +1
        25 February 2014 12: 15
        Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk
        I can still recall Manstein - this was accepted by the Tatars in Crimea as a liberator

        From the memoirs of Manstein: Tatars immediately sided with us. In December 1941, Muslim Tatar committees were established in Crimea supporting the German occupation administration. In Simferopol, the central “Crimean Muslim Committee” began work. Their organization and activities took place under the direct supervision of the SS. Subsequently, the leadership of the committees was transferred to the headquarters of the SD.
        After the liberation of Crimea from the remnants of the Crimean Tatar units in Hungary, the Tatar SS mountain jaeger regiment was formed, which was soon reorganized into the 1st Tatar SS mountain jaeger brigade, which was disbanded on December 31, 1944 and transformed into the Crimea battle group, which merged into East Turkic Union SS. Crimean Tatar volunteers who were not part of the Tatar mountain jaeger regiment of the SS were transferred to France and included in the reserve battalion of the Volga-Tatar Legion or were enlisted in the auxiliary air defense service.
        1. +16
          25 February 2014 16: 13
          Quote: mamba
          From the memoirs of Manstein: Tatars immediately sided with us.

          They were very offended when they told them this.
          The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine called Viktor Likhachev, senior adviser to the Russian embassy in Kiev, on the carpet of the Russian embassy in Kiev yesterday and scolded him for "incorrect statements" by the Russian Consul in Crimea, Vladimir Andreev, "regarding representatives of the Crimean Tatar people." On the eve, recall, the Russian consul said on the ATR channel that he considered the betrayal of the Crimean Tatars during the Great Patriotic War obvious, for which they were deported to Central Asia and other remote regions of the USSR in 22.05.13.
          Consul Andreev, the "first Crimean Tatar" television channel called on its air after he discouraged Soviet pilots who arrived in Simferopol - WWII veterans to attend the premiere of the film "Haytarma". The creators of the film specially invited and paid for the trip of veterans so that they would light up the premiere of the film with their presence. And then the consul confused them all the cards.
          Answering the TV presenter’s question why he dissuaded the veterans, Andreev explained bluntly: “Primitively about the film. If it were a serial film, of which 20 episodes of 17 would be about the feat of the Soviet people, Soviet soldiers, legendary pilots during the Great Patriotic War, two episodes would be about issues of cooperation with the fascist invaders of Crimean Tatar nationalities, and the final series - about the deportation, tragedy and state crime of the Soviet leadership, I would go to this film. "
          “No matter how these words arouse resentment of the Crimean Tatars against Russia,” the TV presenter worried. “Yes, you what! Did I say something new? ” Asked Andreev.
          “You said a very insulting thing,” noted Bujurova.
          “So they say little of the obvious things that I said,” Andreev insisted. “Do not repeat. You are a diplomat! ” - the leader was indignant.
          “I do not need your advice! - sharply answered Andreev. “Everything I said today is completely official.” Here, write down and scroll to any Crimean Tatar. My word and the word of Russia should sound, should be known, including my interview today. This is so that the truth about the Great Patriotic War sounded including with those episodes that for some reason 18 of May (on this day, the Crimean Tatars mark the anniversary of the deportation every year. - Note KM.RU) are hushed up. In this film, they are not. This is precisely the theme of betrayal. ”
          And the Russian consul, it should be noted, was absolutely right, recalling on the eve of the premiere of a false film about the history of the mass betrayal of the Crimean Tatars during the war years (KM.RU recently talked about this). Another thing is that he clearly got excited about calling his opinion (which any honest person agrees with) the official position of Russia. Unfortunately, this is far from the case. But this does not detract at all from the correctness of his assessments, to which we simply must join
          Read more: http://www.km.ru/world/2013/05/23/polozhenie-russkoyazychnogo-naseleniya-ukrainy

          / 711396-rf-davno-opravdala-predatelst
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    7. +3
      25 February 2014 10: 37
      The same LEKHA (
      It’s just interesting, what does this Crimean Tatar snout do in Moscow, and do not spud tomato beds somewhere on the beaches of the Laptev Sea?
      How long will such banderlogs in Russia have not just the right to vote, but also the air where they splash out the slurry of their rotten brains?
      It should not be forbidden to ban the cloaca-fraternity of the gang of ethnic Crimeans, and send them to the beach?
      1. RusSever
        +1
        25 February 2014 14: 43
        Leave alone the North - the Holy Land. These vultures are forced to work at the location ...
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    10. +1
      25 February 2014 16: 00
      Ivan Ivan the Terrible, Stalin, Magadan and Kolyma were quickly forgotten, crying for this great priest, where our government, the valiant prosecutor’s office, are probably playing.
    11. 0
      25 February 2014 16: 42
      Quote: The same Lech
      I read the memoirs of a former SS man. He greatly praised the Crimean Tatars for the zeal they showed to the Germans.

      Yes, you need to bring them down, female dogs, nits never washed. You don’t take any rubbish on this. You saw them yourself in Crimea, there was only one desire, I saw a reptile, kill him. Tvardovsky said well about the Nazis, and he would do about Crimean Tatars too. their Kazan Tatars can not stand.
      1. Ahmet
        -3
        26 February 2014 14: 03
        Why lie? Don't mislead "slaves" wink their nonsense. We have very good relations with the Crimean Tatars, very strong ties have been established between our organizations. In the event of a complication of the situation in Crimea, hundreds of Tatars from Idel-Ural are ready to leave to help our brothers.
    12. duke
      +3
      25 February 2014 19: 42
      it is not surprising to hear this crap from the stinking lips of hereditary slave traders, hereditary murderers, robbers who for centuries lived by robbery, slave trade, murder and now pretend to be such freedom-loving and independent ... at someone else's expense ... that's why their decaying state collapsed .. . and the Turkish sultan of these "free" had as he wanted, whom to stake, who was strangled with a silk cord for the slightest disobedience ... whose mare would bleat ... as they wrote to the sultan, we are your slaves, oh shadow of Allah ... cheap...
    13. 0
      25 February 2014 23: 40
      I doubt it will. Our government has long ago "its" people. Its in the board. Take, for example, the new privatization, the rest of the reforms in many areas (the word reform causes one despondency among the people) passive action in the Ukrainian conflict, and much more.
    14. 0
      26 February 2014 18: 50
      I read that the Germans even issued an order for the Crimean Tatars, that if they kill many Russians, they will shoot 6 Tatars for one Russian! the United States is asked to release the swamp, and now the news is to release under house arrest!
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    16. +1
      28 February 2014 13: 46
      It is necessary to crush the swamp hamsters themselves until rats are grown.
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    18. +1
      28 February 2014 17: 13
      Do not gobble up. Enough Russian, ready to prevent this. If the swamp quacks again and without a command from the authorities, we will strangle ...
    19. 0
      28 February 2014 20: 29
      and I talked with one former NKVD officer, he says that in the Crimea it was not on the coast, but in the depths of the partisans it was practically not there because any Tatar bastard helped the Fritz well - it’s necessary to draw conclusions from the Tatars that are enemies of our civilization and it’s time to decide what to do with enemies and then we’ll wait for akbar with knives at our throat - in this regard, the Americans fellows bomb first and then apologize
    20. 0
      1 March 2014 19: 58
      I’m only interested in why this scum is not in Lefertovo yet ?!
    21. Sergey557
      0
      3 March 2014 08: 34
      Dear RUSSIAN OCCUPANTS! YOU ARE MANY, and you all judge Ukraine and Ukrainians without the corresponding right !!! Moreover, your judgment about what is happening in Ukraine as Putin shows you through your media !!!
      And you have the Caucasus, and you have Chechnya, but do not forget - you opened the Pandora’s box, and RUSSIA will still have the Far East! Everyone will go there, but not all of you will return from there - there are already more Chinese than Slavs there !!! And RUSSIA opened the Pandora’s box, and all other countries, according to the experience of the Russian occupiers, will want to bite off a piece of your empire, while always referring to Crimea and its occupation by Russia !!!
      RUSSIANS, better to fight in Russia !!!
    22. Arthur 775
      0
      4 March 2014 00: 28
      These talkative Tatars are not touched until there are no large construction sites in the Arctic latitudes. But on a pencil all the Mr-nitrogen, climbed out.
  2. largus886
    +39
    25 February 2014 08: 02
    And why does this give an interview to the media, not the FSB?
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  4. +25
    25 February 2014 08: 08
    I knew that public television would be a public toilet. Be sure to invite any gouno for budget money?
  5. +4
    25 February 2014 08: 11
    Raise the heads of their small, members, super peoples, patriots, heroes. Where does this courage come from? And where this time they will run, super people.
    1. mamba
      +4
      25 February 2014 12: 19
      Quote: mountain
      Where does this courage come from?

      Their courage is proportional to our complacency. Is it time for the GDP to recall its main profession?
  6. parus2nik
    +12
    25 February 2014 08: 15
    "The Russians are former slaves, hereditary slaves" ... They let you into the Crimea .. oh, in vain you were evicted in 1944 .. otherwise you had to do ..
    1. gsg955
      +8
      25 February 2014 08: 48
      Khrushchev the bastard has done a lot, the maize is unfinished.
    2. +10
      25 February 2014 09: 41
      Quote: parus2nik
      ... They let you into Crimea .. oh, in vain you were evicted in 1944 .. otherwise you had to do ..

      Probably from here the saying went: “An unexpected guest, worse than a Tatar!” Well, it cannot be that the Volga Tatars were meant, they are friendly and beloved people by us. And such idiots as Kudusov should be deprived of Russian citizenship, which he probably has. Let it "broadcast" from abroad.
      1. mamba
        +3
        25 February 2014 12: 25
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Probably from here the saying went: "An unexpected guest, worse than a Tatar!"

        In fact, it was about an uninvited guest. There was an anecdote on this topic in the USSR. The Ideological Committee under the Central Committee of the CPSU decided to change this saying, since it does not contribute to the strengthening of friendship between peoples. From now on, it should sound like this: "Uninvited guest, better than a Tatar!" laughing
      2. Ahmet
        -3
        26 February 2014 14: 21
        In this case, it is necessary to explain this to the Russians living in Tatarstan. Anti-Tatar organizations are raising their heads, they really do not like the fact that we are the masters in our Republic, they do not want to learn Tatar (the first state language, the second Russian) and many other aspects of joint "living" ... So it turns out that they "love "kind of tolerant, obedient and servile to Moscow. But since the beginning of the 90s, the Tatars are already different and not everything is so simple. And judging by the comments, full of anger and hatred, there are probably reasons for the Tatars to "travel" to gain experience and help their fellow believers and blood brothers ...
        1. 0
          26 February 2014 17: 40
          Ahmet, do you even know the history of your people? Or did you read propaganda from your fellow Saudis? I talked with your Temirbulatov that he is sitting in the Sov Fed from Tatarstan. So he says that your people are not TATARS at all !!!
  7. +10
    25 February 2014 08: 17
    Can’t he be banged in Moscow for such words?
    1. +12
      25 February 2014 08: 21
      Quote: Igor39
      Can’t he be banged in Moscow for such words?

      And who in Moscow banged for such words?
    2. +6
      25 February 2014 10: 02
      And there is no one to bang. Everyone drowned in the "swamp". They are using their forces in the wrong direction. Moscow is not the same
  8. +10
    25 February 2014 08: 18
    All is fair in war. It is necessary to pay for all the media, including the "yellow" articles and stories about the atrocities of one of the so-called "small nations" during the Second World War. To disperse all these communities and other "committees", in view of their financing from abroad and from criminal structures. By the way, the above quote is a reason for the promotion of "crime". The Duma people have experience, it is enough to recall the law of "Dima Yakovlev".
    1. +1
      25 February 2014 08: 59
      I fully support you.
  9. +11
    25 February 2014 08: 18
    Crimean Tatars are hereditary political prostitutes. Lie down for anyone for grandmas or out of fear.
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    3. Russkiy53
      +3
      25 February 2014 14: 58
      Ahh, so in our Duma all-Tatars :)))?
  10. +15
    25 February 2014 08: 20
    Stalin decided to destroy the Crimean Tatars because this is not a servile people, he never knew slavery. But Stalin was used to controlling slaves. Therefore, he really liked the Russians - former slaves, hereditary slaves ... "

    Oh yeah. Only "slaves" can kick the ass once a century for the united European war. These "slaves" also created the greatest literature, art and were able to build a huge state with a humanistic ideology, stretching over 1/7 of the land. And these "slaves" built schools and enterprises on the national outskirts, so that the proud nationals would not feel inferior.
  11. +2
    25 February 2014 08: 21
    It is amazing that after such words, they still endure him in Moscow!
    We still have to wage war with them. Nothing, we will win as we won
    always when predatory hordes raided the Crimea.
  12. +8
    25 February 2014 08: 24
    touched by the lack of reaction of our valiant bodies to the statement of this Kudusov am
    1. +1
      25 February 2014 08: 57
      Yes, corny, looked, damn it ... There will be gallant bodies for every nonsense to run and follow. Few people need him anyway, and after that his remarks among healthy people will cause nothing but a rejection reaction. Sam S.D.h.s.
  13. +8
    25 February 2014 08: 25
    Crimean Tatars are free. They themselves choose for whom to be slaves.

    How their history does not teach. We’ll repeat nothing, it’s not difficult for us. The Russians took Berlin four times, until the Germans realized that they had to be friends with the Russians.
    1. 0
      26 February 2014 16: 53
      Quote: hhhhhhh
      The Russians took Berlin four times, until the Germans realized that they had to be friends with the Russians.

      Do you think it’s reached?
      1. +1
        28 February 2014 03: 14
        When Germany unites, the Russian soldier has to restore order there. (Quote, I do not remember whose)
  14. Fox
    +12
    25 February 2014 08: 27
    and why again "Tatars" ?! name them as they are called KHAZARS!
    1. mamba
      +5
      25 February 2014 12: 54
      Quote: Fox
      and why again "Tatars" ?! name them as they are called KHAZARS!

      Why do you think so? Their self-name is "kyrymtatar". Ethnically they were close to the Khazar Turks, but certainly not by religion. The language of the Crimean Tatars belongs to the Turkic group of the Altai family of languages, and among the Khazars - to the Bulgar group of the Turkic languages. Crimean Tatars, Sunni Muslims, belong to the Hanafi madhhab, and the Khazars, as you know, were Jews. Of course, historically, the Khazars were noted in the Crimea, back in the 7-8 centuries, at the time of their expansion. By the way, the Khazar-Jewish community existed in Kiev (the Kozary tract is in Kiev to this day).
      The descendants of the Khazars consider themselves some representatives of the Turkish-speaking Jewish nationalities - Karaites and Krymchaks, as well as Iranian-speaking mountain Jews. Khazar roots may have some Turkic-speaking peoples of the North Caucasus. Hazaras live in Afghanistan, who are not, however, descendants of the Khazars, because they are Iranian-speaking Shiites of Mongolian and Iranian descent, who inhabit central Afghanistan (8-10% of the country's total population).
      1. 0
        28 February 2014 03: 11
        It was necessary to finish off immediately or take as slaves. And only doomed to swords and fires. But the Rus did not have a slavish custom. Slave = debtor for a period of "working" the debt.
    2. -1
      25 February 2014 13: 11
      Quote: Fox
      what are they called Khazars!

      Well, here you need to clarify exactly which Khazars, there were white Khazars who were closer to the Slavs and they had a pretty high culture and development. And there were black Khazars who were parasites, murderers and bandits, who were subsequently slaughtered for a long time in antiquity and many of them went far to the south.
      1. Sergey411
        +1
        25 February 2014 14: 00
        Only those Khazars were Jews. And these are not Tatars, but Nogais.
    3. +2
      26 February 2014 00: 12
      The Khazars were never Tatars, they are closer to the Jews and the Jews had one faith with the Khazars.
  15. +9
    25 February 2014 08: 31
    Why is this "land" sitting in Moscow and yapping? As you can see, you can't lure him to his historical homeland with a roll. Isn't it time to introduce deportation for anti-Russian propaganda with deprivation of citizenship?
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  17. +11
    25 February 2014 08: 32
    Since the time that Ivan the Fourth forbade slavery in Russia, the Russians destroyed a dozen slave khanates and bayas. It’s high time to understand that Russian slaves do not sell and do not allow others to do so.
  18. +22
    25 February 2014 08: 32
    Does this kozla do not know about slaves - in Crimea there were the largest slave markets in Europe before the Russian troops burned this infection at the end of the 18 century. The main suppliers of slaves to these markets were just the Crimean Tatars, who raided the south of Eastern Europe.
    The Olympics is over, it's time to pay attention to national politics and the problem of unwanted migrants. Kudusov-effendi is the first in line for deportation. Tyagnibok waited for him.
    1. spd2001
      +7
      25 February 2014 10: 13
      pictured are Yugoslav Muslims (this is so for historical accuracy)
      1. 0
        25 February 2014 15: 20
        For historical accuracy, it would not hurt all publications to publish photographs of what these "unfortunate and oppressed" were doing in concentration camps on the territory of Crimea (and not only).
        And this scumbag should already be in jail and give testimony on the 282nd at least.
      2. 0
        26 February 2014 09: 21
        Yes, and Slavic faces.
    2. smersh70
      0
      25 February 2014 15: 21
      Quote: inkass_98
      Ethical politics and the problem of unwanted migrants. Kudusov-effendi is the first in line for deportation. Tyagnibok waited for him.


      1000 times this photo was discussed-This photo is Bosnian Muslims, not Crimean Tatars.
      1. +1
        25 February 2014 22: 38
        Quote: smersh70
        1000 times this photo was discussed-This photo is Bosnian Muslims, not Crimean Tatars.

        does it change anything ?
        or Krymchaks Germans did not serve a little less than everyone?
  19. +14
    25 February 2014 08: 33
    I am amazed...
    Some gnome, calling himself a writer, broadcasts on Russian PUBLIC TV, and everyone present, including the presenter, respectfully listens and does not interrupt him.

    1. calocha
      +17
      25 February 2014 08: 42
      The host is a young "oak". Well, there are conscious traitors nearby.
    2. +25
      25 February 2014 08: 44
      OTR has been annoying since its inception, in my opinion not a single channel has poured so much dirt onto our past in such a short time, one transmission of Truth is worth it!
      And this scum, where did it finally come from? Nobody knew her and would not have known for a long time if not for this prostitute channel. I myself am a Tatar, I have relatives in the Crimea - and not one of them thinks so ...
    3. slon53
      +5
      25 February 2014 10: 42
      it’s just the topic: Who determines the broadcasting policy of the STATE TV channel? When will they find control on this rot, on these presenters, magazines, etc. They invite all trash to the programs, and broadcast these slops throughout Russia
    4. slon53
      0
      25 February 2014 10: 42
      it’s just the topic: Who determines the broadcasting policy of the STATE TV channel? When will they find control on this rot, on these presenters, magazines, etc. They invite all trash to the programs, and broadcast these slops throughout Russia
    5. +5
      25 February 2014 11: 27
      Our liberals in all their glory! There was not a single person who has the honor and dignity, come up and roll this scum a good slap in the face! After that they try to speak on behalf of the people, to collect some rallies?! Ugh!
    6. predator.3
      +5
      25 February 2014 12: 21
      Quote: BigRiver
      I am amazed...
      Some gnome, calling himself a writer, broadcasts on Russian PUBLIC TV, and everyone present, including the presenter, respectfully listens and does not interrupt him.


      Hmmm, how cunningly the old man turned, saying that Stalin deported the "freedom-loving Crimean Tatar people", and not a word about cooperation with the Germans, how they destroyed our soldiers at the quarries! see until 14% is multiplied by zero will not calm down!
      1. garlik
        +2
        25 February 2014 20: 51
        And you need to get out of the chair and scum in the face in the face in the face
    7. +1
      25 February 2014 12: 43
      They say about such people: "The bug is small, but smelly." To crush, so much the liberals will raise the stench, it will not seem a little. But sometime this process still needs to be started!
    8. +7
      25 February 2014 14: 46
      First of all, OTR must be recognized as an extremist channel. In the second, the leading and present guests are obvious traitors. They are called slaves in the eleventh generation, and they build brooding faces. Such traitors in the 17th just behaved like that, thoughtfully. And this "writer" needs to be prosecuted for extremism, just like OTR! And these "guests" advice is this: Gentlemen, you will go to television, do not forget that you have a huge responsibility! You must have not only a clear position, but also a willingness to give a worthy answer! People like you in Kiev leaked and did not choke. Traitors never aroused respect in anyone. They were always destroyed at the first opportunity.
      1. +2
        25 February 2014 16: 18
        So everyone in the studio has no noticeable fingerprints of intelligence on their faces!
      2. 0
        2 March 2014 17: 25
        it’s not an option for them to settle out there right now, even their Turkish friends will not help them, they will wipe them into powder and will not notice.
    9. +2
      25 February 2014 16: 43
      The logic of the old man is beyond reason.
      It is interesting that he will say about the Crimean Tatars, robbers and rapists, hereditary raiders, former robbers? Again the story, nothing personal ...
    10. +7
      25 February 2014 20: 18
      Hmmm ... !!! ??? "Slaves" reached the Pacific Ocean .., because of the "Slave feeling" Battle on the Ice, Kulikovo field, Battle of Poltava, etc. pr. "Slaves" A. Nevsky, D. Donskoy, Minin and Pozharsky, adm.Nakhimov, A. Suvorov, Kutuzov, I no longer write about contemporaries ... THOUSANDS OF THEM ... And where are the geniuses ... and the genes of these the most, most .. for centuries they lived in raids .. robbed .. killed, taken away in full .. (into slavery ..) the result of the "slaves" came stuffed their face ... there is a Russian proverb .. "Who does not remember the past, will not have future. " angry bully
    11. garlik
      +1
      25 February 2014 20: 49
      What kind of scum gathered in the studio?
      1. bort11
        0
        27 February 2014 08: 55
        The interview information appeared gave the Moscow chief of the Crimean Tatars and says - Russian hereditary slaves. These hereditary slaves conquered the 6th part of the land, not like emigrants from all over Europe destroyed the indigenous population of America, Asia, Africa. These slaves came to Alaska. Now you will not find a purely Russian, and what is wrong with that. Blood was renewed, we developed and reached these peaks. There has always been something good and bad under any authority, but we have developed with all the peoples inhabiting Great Russia. To take the Crimean Tatars, they developed in their own shells, except that the Turks spoiled their seed stock, they already smell of blood with shit, they stopped in development. Where do they understand that in the end we are all living on Earth - EARTH is our nationality. Apparently, they and others like this can never understand, because they are terminally ill. The blood of three cultures, three opposites flows in my daughter, she has absorbed all the best of all three cultures. And no one will prove the opposite to me. While we are developing together - we are strong and we can handle any tasks. And if someone does not agree, they can return to the caves, to the Stone Age, and then they would have sunk into history, because they would have died out like mammoths, because they have in their head an ORGANIC with one recording made to the CIA - Russia must be destroyed. They want to destroy Russia here such as the TURKISH TATARS and the like. They killed us, but we resurrected, and it will always be like that, the more they speak badly of us, we grow stronger, through humiliation and the pain of loss, through hardships to STARS - THE TRUTH FOR RUSSIA and who shares our ideology. Politicians come and go, and the Russian soul is alive. YOU can not understand the soul of Russia, of all peoples inhabiting GREAT RUSSIA !!!
    12. +3
      26 February 2014 09: 22
      Where are Moscow neo-Nazis looking?
  20. +10
    25 February 2014 08: 37
    Before we go along with the priest, mother will soon come home for slaves, cattle, completely unbelted. We forgot how Catherine and his lordly prince Potemkin of Tauride put them in a stable. And this porter gives me a porter who gives me farewell tea, especially since he will serve a German from his hand.
  21. ed65b
    +30
    25 February 2014 08: 38
    Comrades, mind you this is said by the "head of the Moscow community" of the Crimean Tatars. That is, this ....... otherwise it cannot be called, sitting in our very heart of the country humiliates and insults RUSSIANS in their own country, incites ethnic hatred. although his homeland is in a completely different place, he probably has a passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation. Citizens do not seem to you that this does not fit into any framework. Maybe it's enough for us to sit here and choke in anger from our own powerlessness, it may be time to create an initiative group of intelligent people, lawyers to respond to the vying of such scum. Maybe there are lawyers in the Guide of our respected site and it's time to create a response department. I think the members of the forum will support such an initiative.
    1. +5
      25 February 2014 08: 57
      Comrades, mind you this is said by the "head of the Moscow community" of the Crimean Tatars.
      Let it be better now that people like him openly declare their views and position in relation to the Russian people and Russia, than then behind our backs they will create sabotage groups and join the ranks of the "Waffen-EU". In this case, I believe that this head of the community has uttered enough to be deported from Moscow to Taimyr. hi
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    3. +3
      25 February 2014 10: 14
      It is high time, otherwise the powers that be are already too busy. As if later it wasn’t
    4. FRITZ LANG
      +17
      25 February 2014 10: 57
      Hello, let me tell you my thoughts. Until the Russians learn how to properly react to such non-humans, everything will continue in the same way. Your state should react harshly to such statements, especially those sounding from TV. Imagine that this will happen in America (a dude will come out and on the Larry King show he will declare that American murderers, executioners, etc.), Guantanamo is provided for him, if of course before they will have time to take the plane. so wake up Russians, finally realize who your enemy is and act. It is necessary to suppress this in the bud, such TV channels on which such "truth-tellers" can freely appear should be closed. As far as I understand, the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation has laws suitable for such "goats", so why not apply?
      1. 225chay
        +4
        25 February 2014 11: 39
        Quote: FRITZ LANG
        Russians, finally realize who your enemy is and act. It is necessary to suppress this in the bud, such TV channels on which such "truth-tellers" can freely appear should be closed. As far as I understand, the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation has laws suitable for such "goats", so why not apply?


        Television, as in principle, all media are in the hands of the same "talented" persons ...
        also law enforcement agencies, courts, prosecutors, the Investigative Committee, Customs, state security, border guards, internal troops, etc.
      2. +8
        25 February 2014 11: 49
        Quote: FRITZ LANG
        .As far as I understand, the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation has laws suitable for such "goats", so why don't you apply?

        Well, how can you offend someone - all these laws work only against the "indigenous nationality".
    5. Ahmed Osmanov
      +5
      25 February 2014 11: 39
      After this program (I don’t understand how they didn’t give him @ editions, Russian men sitting in the hall), he should give an interview to the central office of the FSB. hi
  22. +4
    25 February 2014 08: 38
    Hmm ... Enemies in Russia are increasing and increasing. Our enemies are doing great, surrounding us with "sworn friends". Real friends can be counted on one hand, and even those in difficult times will be silent and not rock the boat. Eh, something will probably be. Would stand ...
    1. +1
      25 February 2014 17: 03
      oh no noah to blat. Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers did not get out of such situations. Better go on the horizontal bar or push up. You sit on the buttons, hammering a bottle of beer. All of them @ izdy raked and raked more than once.
  23. +8
    25 February 2014 08: 39
    from the Don.
    But are there any Russians in Moscow, after all? Upstairs. How much can any patter be tolerated !?
    1. 225chay
      +2
      25 February 2014 11: 40
      Quote: borisjdin1957
      But are there any Russians in Moscow, after all? Upstairs. How much can any patter be tolerated !?


      Already not practically ...
  24. calocha
    +8
    25 February 2014 08: 39
    Crimean Tatars are traitors and provocateurs. Stalin needed to send them to Wrangel Island, and not to Central Asia!
  25. PPL
    +4
    25 February 2014 08: 40
    Only the weak take revenge!
    Hounded by life or by the awareness of his inferiority, this "great" descendant of the Crimean Tatar diaspora is trying to somehow offend the people with whom he lived side by side for more than a dozen years.
    How did he live all this time? How can anger exist with such baggage? fool
    This "chapter Moscow (?) community of Crimean Tatars ", apparently, a hero, because steadfastly endures hardships and humiliations from" hereditary slaves "in Moscow, and not anywhere else. He turns out to be a kind of Stirlitz of the Crimean Tatar spill. Maybe it's time to help him return to "a flock of tavarisches" or, as they have, a "den of friends" - why torture an elderly person? what
  26. +6
    25 February 2014 08: 40
    The dog barks, the wind carries. Why, along with anti-Semitism, is anti-Slavism not condemned to the proper extent? This character should become in Russia, at least, a defendant in a criminal case for inciting ethnic hatred. Or does the "nipple" system work for this article?
    1. 225chay
      +2
      25 February 2014 11: 45
      Quote: Normman
      Why, along with anti-Semitism, is anti-Slavism not adequately condemned? This character should become in Russia, at least a defendant in a criminal case for inciting ethnic hatred.


      The "chosen ones" artificially feed such sentiments among Muslims in order to develop enmity ...
      divide and rule while muslims with the Slavs are biting.
      What's the "Maimonides" academy there?
  27. +5
    25 February 2014 08: 42
    Yeah, if the Russians did not have slaves, then the slaves themselves ???? Some kind of nonsense, I think that in the next speech this representative of the diaspora should repent and voice the names of their owners, such people do not have their own thoughts. Tatars in Crimea should think carefully before supporting the government gathered at the barricades, and whether they will sweep away their revolutionary draft
  28. +1
    25 February 2014 08: 42
    Small, insignificant people who never had their own statehood and did not have sufficient intellectual potential were always distinguished by prostitute consciousness and behavior. This applies to the Baltic states, and Crimean Tatars, and zapadentsev. In this regard, the Finnish example is an indicator. They created and defended their state, and these freaks are not capable of anything except purulent statements to their neighbors. The only thing that saves them from repeating 1944 is simply that their hands do not reach them, there are more important things to do. But, in the next mess, they will definitely come around, only they do not understand this because of the poverty of their minds.
  29. +6
    25 February 2014 08: 43
    Already the second or third article, here only today, about that. how we lose the information war. I repeat once again. You can and should be proud of tanks and ships, but it's the 21st century. The enemy is defeating us, and we repeat "Russia's strength in the army and navy" with stubbornness worthy of better use. Who can argue, but they beat us with another weapon, more effective. Iraq was not destroyed by tanks, Libya was not bombed by planes, Syria is not killed by bullets. The turn of Ukraine has come. What are we waiting for? Russian tanks? Information support is more important.
  30. 0
    25 February 2014 08: 46
    now who does not need longevity for nothing, was born, zombified and live up to 120 years, fix the material, and the funniest thing is that theirs are also Saudi punks, who have not climbed off camels and just learned to piss standing, she still has these "aksakals" and teaches life, but they heed, do not break off. and who are the slaves?
  31. 0
    25 February 2014 08: 47
    pokudnik Tatar! Russian taught you to piss standing. in fact, the smaller the pug the louder is yapping !!!
  32. Dovmont
    +7
    25 February 2014 08: 49
    What kind of beast Crimean Tatars I know from childhood! My childhood passed in Crimea and 40 years after the war, old-timers could not forget what they did with the Russians during the occupation, how they drowned babies in cesspools, ripped pregnant bellies alive and sewn kittens into them. If Russia now does not openly come out to defend the Russian population of Crimea, in the flesh before the introduction of troops, then Crimea will be lost by us !! The combat-trained groups of Krymchaks are waiting for a signal to repeat the Kiev scenario in Crimea. And there is reason to fear its successful execution, because Putin will not dare to send troops to the Crimea, and indeed to the Russian south-east of Ukraine, alas!
  33. 0
    25 February 2014 08: 50
    and who is this figure in general that boldly labels?
    Is he a Nobel laureate?
    or he is a statesman who made candy from a swamp country (as in Singapore)

    there is a big suspicion that this crazy man is nothing and is unknown to anyone outside his party.
    sort of Babalera in pants.
  34. +4
    25 February 2014 08: 50
    Mr. hats do not throw. They are preparing a war worse than the Maidan. People came to the Maidan brought to the edge by the bureaucracy, and Westerners took advantage of this. Who died on the Maidan? Those who wanted to live like people. Who reaps the fruits of Maidan-Bandera. In Crimea, the same scenario may be. Buying an official is easier. A billion dollars went to Yanukovych, and even that one can be taken from him. Tatar will be cheaper ...
  35. +2
    25 February 2014 08: 52
    One Tatar worked for us, who claimed that the Tatars were descendants of Genghis Khan, but he did not know that Genghis Khan was a purebred Mongol, and the Turkic tribes that laid under him betrayed not only the Russians who died for them on Kalka, but also those who did not agreed to cooperate with the Mongols.
    1. +7
      25 February 2014 11: 44
      Do not bother everyone in a bunch. There are Crimean Tatars, who for a significant part of their history were vassals of Turkey, but there are Volga, Siberian, etc. Are they ready to insult everyone from ignorance of history? Musa Jalil, for example, was executed by the Nazis in the Moabit prison for refusing to become a traitor.
      Read Sidorov, by the way, he claims that Genghis Khan is Russian.
  36. +7
    25 February 2014 08: 52
    Kudusov provocateur and enemy of Russia. He has no place in Moscow. He was never a scientist, does not know history and always tried to build his activities in such a way as to harm Russia. Why he is given the right to speak in the media. His place is somewhere in Turkey, for example. Thank you for the rebuke you gave this villain.
  37. 0
    25 February 2014 08: 53
    Here is another example of a pronounced "kinesthetics - sensing" - until he receives nothing through the oral message (I recently posted about visuals, audials and these very kinesthetics ...).
    The insanity of the uncomprehending was demonstrated by the disrespectable Mr. Kudusov or, more correctly, the blind faith that he personally benefits ...
    The crisis of the mind gives rise to narrow worldview and hatred, provoking it among opponents.
  38. +1
    25 February 2014 08: 57
    Why should we send troops to Crimea? After all, they have been there for a long time - the Black Sea Fleet. I think that the marines "black jackets" will take the peninsula under Russian control in one day.
    1. 0
      25 February 2014 10: 18
      One brigade for the entire peninsula may not be enough ...
  39. +5
    25 February 2014 09: 01
    Friend! Bring to (at least) your children - that the serf is a man who stores the main food in the fortress, and in case of an attack he defends himself in the fortress! And everything else is nonsense !!!
  40. +2
    25 February 2014 09: 02
    Slaves, you say? Oh well. There were many of you such clever "gentlemen". The time will come (perhaps it will soon come), and we will fertilize the Crimean land with this shit Kudusovskiy.
  41. +9
    25 February 2014 09: 07
    Mr. Kudusov made this statement not somewhere in the kitchen, in the circle of his like-minded people, but during his speech on the air Public Television of Russia.


    The daughter is doing practice at the Public Chamber of Russia. Says - dad, there are no Russians there.
    Why be surprised?
    1. 225chay
      +2
      25 February 2014 11: 49
      Quote: Normal
      The daughter is doing practice at the Public Chamber of Russia. Says - dad, there are no Russians there.


      Here from here and all the troubles! Who rules us?
      1. +2
        25 February 2014 15: 34
        Quote: Normal
        The daughter is doing practice at the Public Chamber of Russia. Says - dad, there are no Russians there.
        Why be surprised?

        Quote: 225chay
        Here from here and all the troubles! Who rules us?

        It really became creepy. And it is clear. How would we ensure the majority of Russian at the top? Or at least pro-Russian.
  42. +3
    25 February 2014 09: 08
    An extremist must sit in prison and teach life to guard.
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    2. +1
      25 February 2014 11: 25
      Quote: Yoon Clob
      An extremist must sit in prison and teach life to guard.

      he is on the side of the guard, but the Russian cellmates (neighbors in the barracks) are welcome, only this is what they will do with him after that ...
  43. Alexandr0id
    0
    25 February 2014 09: 12
    and the interlocutors of this crazy old man, listening to all this, did not even blink an eye.
    people live by some strange nostalgia for the long-vanished Crimean Khanate (which he knows only from books), when indeed for the Crimean Tatars Russians (and Ukrainians) were perceived as an object of capture and further trade. but the days of the slave trade are long gone and right now for such attacks you can get it.
    as for this article, the attempt to justify the bestial existence in which the Russian people lived until 1861 looks very strange:
    Serfdom was a system that had to be created to ensure national security and independence of the country.

    Now it has become fashionable to turn a blind eye to the negative aspects of one's own history, for some reason this is considered patriotic.
    in my opinion serfdom is a shameful part of our history
    1. +2
      25 February 2014 09: 49
      Red bloomers will not give you for understanding the historical moment.
    2. +5
      25 February 2014 12: 01
      You would, oil Alexander, learn the story first.
      And then talk about shameful parts ...
      ...
      Once upon a time there was a bandit gang in Crimea. She roofed - the Turkish Sultan. When the Sultan didn’t like something, he sent a silk cord, which they were supposed to strangle .. the wretch.
      There have never been failures.
      The gang was engaged exclusively in gangster craft - kidnapping, raids, slave trade. Whoever could be caught was the one who traded. When there were no prisoners left, they traded their own. And figs - money doesn’t smell.
      Well, where can one go from the Crimea?
      Here they went. The Grand Duchy of Lithuania and Russia (consider plundered the territories of present-day Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Poland. Lithuania and Latvia as well.)
      Principality of Astrakhan, Nogai Horde.
      Muscovy. But now, after they got twice a lot of tinsel with tinsel - and from lesser strength - at Fates, 1555 (Oryol Oblast) and under Molody, 1572 near Podolsk - so the direction of the campaigns changed dramatically.
      And in the Battle of Molodi ... 8 thousand janissaries also died ingloriously. In addition to 80 thousand "gentlemen", damn it.
      ...
      In short, only psychiatrists should listen to such nonsense from such figures as Kudusov.
      And the prosecutors.
      With relevant findings.
      ...
      About Fate and Youth there were publications right here on the forum.
      I am sure that Ukrainians, Belarusians and Poles put these "gentlemen" in the knee-elbow position just as well.
      Yes, everyone did. Who wanted to. "Gentlemen" - cancer!
      1. Alexandr0id
        -3
        25 February 2014 15: 01
        I know the story well, so I am skeptical of such new myths as the battle of Molodinsk. fairy tales about 8 thousand janissaries and 80 thousand hordes of Crimeans are always funny to read.
        in the confrontation with the holy league in a dispute over the Mediterranean, the sultan sends, according to some of our most patriotic sources, 146% of the staff of the Janissary corps, which at that time was actually a personal guard, in some kind of Yibin. do you believe that?
        as well as 80 thousand Crimean horsemen with a total number of Tatars with women and children of 250 thousand. These are just miracles of mobilization.
        1. xan
          +2
          25 February 2014 15: 25
          Quote: Alexandr0id
          I know the story well, so I am skeptical of such new myths as the battle of Molodinsk. fairy tales about 8 thousand janissaries and 80 thousand hordes of Crimeans are always funny to read.

          Janissaries could not be Janissaries, but regular Turkish infantry, garrisoned in fortresses all over Crimea. What are they called, is that a big difference?
          And not only the Crimean Tatars participated in the battle of Molodinsky, but also the Nogais and tribes from the Caucasus - the Crimean khan was seriously preparing for the campaign and gathered all who could be gathered. The Crimeans did not have another way to earn a dough for life, how to capture captives and sell. So let's go.
          One thing is for sure - when the Tatars were Young, there were seriously more Russians based on the nature of the battle - the Tatars were not distracted by the captives, were sure of victory, and went to Moscow. And an indisputable fact - they got serious lyuli.
          Everything else is lyrics.
          1. Alexandr0id
            +1
            25 February 2014 22: 55
            I once wrote in the comments to the article "Forbidden Victory":
            Molodinskaya battle, for the time being almost unknown to anyone, over time, in the wake of historical patriotism, overgrown with cheerful details, and almost dialogues of characters. and, of course, in numbers.
            120-150-200 thousand Crimean riders are considered as quite objective figures.
            hence the logical conclusion in the fate of the battle and comparison with the sandpiper or Borodino.
            let's figure it out. second half of the 16th century: the Moscow kingdom borders on the remnants of the Golden Horde: Kazan, Astrakhan, Crimean Khanates and Nogai Horde.
            what these states were (estimated numbers):
            - Kazan Khanate - a population of 450 thousand people. (including Tatars -210 thousand)
            - Astrakhan Khanate - population of 25 thousand people. (yes, only 25, such a ridiculous khanate)
            - Crimean Khanate - population 250-300 thousand people. (including Jews, Armenians, Karaites, slaves)
            - Nogai horde - from 300 thousand to 1 million (the spread in numbers is due to geography, what can be considered the Nogai horde as only the steppes of the former large horde or even half of Kazakhstan).
            thus, where the figures of Crimean hordes come from is simply not clear. the maximum that the Crimea could expose in 1572 was 40 thousand people, if they all died under their youth, then in the Crimea there were no adult men of Tatar nationality. some Armenians and Jews.
            further - the thousands of Janissaries who died in this glorious battle. the sultan, who has at his disposal 12 thousand of the Janissary corps, i.e. in fact, guards, sends to help his vassal 7 thousand Janissaries (15-20 thousand according to other descriptions). and all this during a tough confrontation with the Holy League and the struggle for the Mediterranean. fiction or insanity of the monarch, what is it?
            Well, and what is the result of this glorious battle that destroyed the entire male population of Crimea? the fall of the Crimean Khanate - no, the liberation of Moscow from paying the wake of the Khan - no. very strange results.
            one gets the impression that either there was no battle at all, or it was a small skirmish, of which there were many in the 16-17 centuries. This is the reason that this event is "undeservedly forgotten" and does not even come close to being compared with the sandpiper field, standing on an eel or the Crimean campaign of 1571.
        2. 0
          28 February 2014 08: 46
          Hordes of Nogais fought for the Crimean Tatars, and there were so many of them on the Volga and Kuban. Until Kalmyks came and drove them away and partially destroyed them. Kalmyks with Zaporizhzhya Cossacks and Don Cossacks went to Crimea more than once and all the time successfully. And judging by the number of soldiers, there are not so many Cossacks. There is evidence that the number of Kalmyks who traveled with Cossacks to Crimea ranges from 500 to 5000 soldiers in different years.
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    3. +3
      25 February 2014 13: 18
      now it has become fashionable to turn a blind eye to the negative aspects of one’s own story

      in my opinion serfdom is a shameful part of our history

      Russia could not afford the "freedom" and individualism of the West


      The undivided political dominance of the nobility, interested in ensuring the unbridled exploitation of the peasants, caused the spread of the so-called. "Second edition of serfdom" in East Germany, the Baltic states, Poland, Czech Republic, Hungary.


      In East (Saalb) Germany, serfdom was particularly fully developed after the Thirty Years War of 1618–1648 and took on the most severe forms in Mecklenburg, Pomerania, and East Prussia.


      Nothing belongs to you, the soul belongs to God, and your bodies, property and everything that you have is mine.
      - From the landowner's charter defining the duties of peasants, Schleswig-Holstein, 1740


      Official dates of the abolition of serfdom by country:
      Holy Roman Empire: 1.11.1781
      Baden: 23.7.1783/XNUMX/XNUMX
      Denmark: 20.6.1788/XNUMX/XNUMX
      France: 3.11.1789
      Switzerland: 4.5.1798
      Schleswig-Holstein: 19.12.1804
      Pomerania (as part of Sweden): 4.7.1806
      Prussia: 9.10.1807 (in practice, 1811-1823)
      Mecklenburg: September 1807 (in practice 1820)
      Bavaria: 31.8.1808
      Nassau (Duchy): 1.9.1812
      Saxony: 17.3.1832
      Hungary: 11.4.1848 (first time), 2.3.1853 (second time)
      Croatia 8.5.1848
      Russian Empire: 19.2.1861
      Bosnia and Herzegovina: 1918

      I'll just leave it here...
      1. +4
        25 February 2014 13: 28
        SkiF Random, that's right.
        Let all these ... serf-owners - tell, offhand - who are "Yarygs", who are "Procurements", who are "Serfs". What is "Fortress" - that's when you can say.
        And then, they read stories stuck together somehow by no-understand-by whom ...
    4. +1
      25 February 2014 15: 42
      Quote: Alexandr0id
      Now it has become fashionable to turn a blind eye to the negative aspects of one's own history, for some reason this is considered patriotic.

      We found time to be clever. We are here first of all to defend ourselves and our power, our honor and the rest of the people who have been doused with dirt, and at the same time support each other in difficult times, mentally preparing for the worst. For war. Your opposition’s historical delights are inappropriate.
      1. Alexandr0id
        0
        25 February 2014 23: 02
        Well, let's think of a story for ourselves, bypassing historians, annals, archeology. such as we ourselves like.
        we’ll live like this kudus in some kind of fantasy.
        here in one neighboring country such fantasies led to considerable sacrifices.
        1. +1
          26 February 2014 00: 06
          we’ll live like this kudus in some kind of fantasy.


          What are you speaking about? You say you know history quite well. I can assume that the name itself has not been encountered before, so such a reaction. Otherwise, your words look strange. This battle has been known for a long time. The campaign of the Crimean Khan Devlet-Giray in 1571 showed the complete incapacity of the oprichnina army. Moscow was burned down, and many people were taken into slavery. Stunned Ivan the Fourth the Terrible even agreed to satisfy part of the Khan's demands - to transfer the Astrakhan Khanate to his power. But he refused to give up Kazan. This did not suit Giray. The following year, the army of the rotten again moved to Russia, but suffered a terrible defeat. I don’t remember how it was in school textbooks, but at universities it is an obligatory part of the course on Otechka. Here is the name "Battle of Molodi" and I myself do not remember something. The number of troops there at Devlet-Giray was 40-120 thousand people, according to various sources. Even if you do not take the minimum number, the amount is quite real (values ​​close to a hundred thousand are, of course, decorations).

          About
          over time on the wave of historical patriotism overgrown with fun details
          you throw it. How long was the battle unknown? I advise you to read about serfdom separately, and not within the framework of the history of Russia, but as a historical process. As part of World History. In particular, the reasons why some countries of Western Europe, unlike most others, abandoned serfdom. In vain are you guided by the words of those who expect to humiliate and slander Russia. (You cannot say otherwise, because it is impossible to link serfdom with Russia. It gained partial distribution precisely due to the integration processes with Europe, initiated from above, by the Romanov dynasty, from 1762 - Holstein-Gottorp-Romanovs)
  44. +2
    25 February 2014 09: 26
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Now the organizers of the swamp movement are trying to rock the world in MOSCOW using the same methods as in MAIDAN OF UKRAINE-IF THE AUTHORITY WILL MANIFESTATE JOINING YANUKOVICH, we will be devoured by all kinds of adventurers and crooks like NEMTSOV.

    And Putin is silent. Not a single official speech. What is it? Thinking about the options, -or Ukraine is the price for a quiet Olympics?. Russia is a great power, and silence at this time is not good. See what makes the US and EU activity phenomenal! Or are we bent and have fun?
  45. +8
    25 February 2014 09: 27
    Now the time has come for the next stage to resolve the "Russian question" on the territory of Russian civilization.


    So they survived. How could it be otherwise?
    If the Russian is not the master in his own land, in Russia.
    If any national leader can say that there are no Russians.
    If the slogan "Russian means sober" is recognized as extremist.
    If on the holiday of the Russian carnival in the center of the capital of Russia, policemen forbid Russian festivals and dances.
    If the leaders of the "Russian Runs" are pressed by representatives of the Tozherosians from the Northern Caucasus from the "E" department of the FSB of Russia.
    If everywhere and everywhere in space b. The USSR thrives on ethno-nationalism, supported by both the national elite and national power, and only in Russia we are told about multinationality and friendship of peoples.
    If the power in Russia is always not on the side of the Russians.
    Here we are RUSSIAN QUESTION ALREADY IN RUSSIAand not anywhere else.
  46. +2
    25 February 2014 09: 28
    As far as I remember, the Russians had serfdom, this still differs from slavery, and in more ancient times the history of Russians is inseparable from the history of all Slavic peoples and is covered in darkness. So he called the Ukrainians too. This is the time. One way or another, the Russians always gave enlightenment ... such as this figure and entire nations thinking like him. These are two.
    1. 0
      April 11 2016 22: 12
      A slave is a person owned by another person. Slavery is a form of ownership in which one individual has the right to own another. Abercrombie N., Hill S, Turner B.C. Sociological Dictionary, 2008

      Correctly! serfdom is not only a tricky thing, but also a wise one. When selling, slaves were considered head over heels, and in serfdom they liked. This is a significant difference.
  47. +6
    25 February 2014 09: 33
    And why is the prosecutor's office silent? Or is the Penal Code written only for Russians? It does not live in Russia? Isn't our bread eating?
    And you, Krymchaks, better remember how the campaigns for slaves ended for you. When these same slaves simply slaughtered your male population under Young. Do not be dashing while it is quiet!
  48. +8
    25 February 2014 09: 33
    The funniest thing is that if any of the Russians on the air spoke in a similar vein about "national minorities" - they would immediately call them a fascist and generally raise a howl throughout the entire district.

    And I was always wondering why such a sv.loch not attracted by article 282? It is time to change the tendency to plant only Russians on it.
    Well, in pursuit of the idea of ​​drawing up a collective appeal to the court against this "historian" for insulting honor and dignity, so that
    1. walker
      0
      27 February 2014 16: 18
      But because from the Soviet times, the Slavs were always punished. This is not fiction. On an emergency, I almost sat down because of a fight with a Kalmyk, I was saved by the fact that this hmyr was half a year older at the call. ..
  49. +4
    25 February 2014 09: 34
    Yes, the vile people ... This will always survive. The Germans will come - they will lick w ... them, the French - them. The main thing is that they throw a bone during and scratch behind the ear ... laughing
  50. +3
    25 February 2014 09: 48
    At a time when hatred of everything RUSSIAN is approaching its zenith, Our people are in a state of absolute tolerance. This self-confident, contented life, parasitizes on Our land with complete impunity. With foam, at their smelly mouth, and in ecstasy, they look forward to Our death.
    "How many jackals and dogs
    Rocking around
    To the gold of Our breads
    For the gold of Our icons "
    Soon it will be necessary to defend Our Motherland, with weapons in hand. But We, the SLAVES, will not take revenge on anyone. For slaves take revenge. We are not slaves of God, we are his children! Therefore, we will judge and punish!
    1. walker
      0
      27 February 2014 16: 21
      Totally agree with you!!! That’s the point, we don’t take revenge. And we should. Yes, take revenge so that we would not only be afraid to look, but also to breathe in our direction ...
    2. +1
      28 February 2014 14: 01
      Not only Russians live on the territory of Russia, so the West is not interested in fighting with all the peoples living on the territory of Russia, but minerals and territories that will be liberated after they pit us together and it is not necessary to isolate only Russians. crush the Nazis and the West together.
  51. +1
    25 February 2014 09: 58
    The Nazis wouldn’t have left them in Crimea. At most, a percentage, in order to carry slippers to some Herr Lyamka. Well, as cannon fodder under a Russian bayonet, then please, comrades-in-arms. And look, there would be no Kudusovs in the world. But this..... won't understand.
  52. +4
    25 February 2014 10: 03
    Why are the authorities inactive? How will the prosecutor's office react to such statements?
  53. +8
    25 February 2014 10: 04
    This is war. It’s sad to talk about this, my heart is heavy, the most difficult forecasts come true, but this is war...
    Russia needs it more than ever ideological mobilization.


    During the entire reign of the current elite, no national idea has been born. Well, maybe “stability, scraps, mortgages and credit”

    There is NO IDEA in the world now.
    Now in the world there is global capital, with which we actively cooperate, and NATIONALISM as an idea that unites societies and divides peoples.

    Nationalism is advancing and winning. Somewhere in alliance with radical religiosity in the case of Zionism and Islamism, somewhere in its pure form in the case of the Baltic states, Ukraine, etc.
    Now the Crimeans have gone crazy. How can you not get offended? An example of Westerners-Bandera and the Russian-speaking "Berkut" is before our eyes.
    A people united by a national idea, or even just a small part of it, is always stronger than one without an idea and without a nationality. You can fight and die for Ukraine as a country of Ukrainians, but it is not possible to fight and die for a multinational friendship of peoples, knowing that the thieves’ government will hand you over at any moment.

    There is a war against the Russian world and the enemy’s combat units are NATIONALLY or RELIGIOUSLY united. We, Russians, are divided. Anyone who calls himself Russian openly and declares his ancestral rights is immediately subject to obstruction and defamation. Shouts of “extremists! Nazis! fifth column! collapse of multinational Russia!” drown out all reasonable arguments and attempts to comprehend what is happening.
    OR WE RECOGNIZE OURSELVES AS RUSSIANS, and not as multinational Russians, or THERE WILL NOT BE A RUSSIAN WORLD!
  54. +3
    25 February 2014 10: 07
    Quote: K.Shimada
    Why are the authorities inactive? How will the prosecutor's office react to such statements?


    If the “new Ukrainian” prosecutor’s office, then something like this:

    UKRAINIAN MEN AND WOMEN!
    The Bolshevik commissars destroyed your factories and workplaces, thus depriving you of wages and bread!
    Germany provides you with the opportunity for rewarding and well-paid work!
    In Germany you will be well provided for and will find good living conditions!
    The pay will be good too!
    We expect Ukrainians to immediately show up for good jobs in Germany!
    Commissar General Brigadeführer I. Kwitzrau.

    Well, our prosecutor’s office should react like this:
  55. 0
    25 February 2014 10: 08
    clever, you won't say anything laughing
  56. +2
    25 February 2014 10: 10
    Come on, don’t pay attention to the old Tatar senile, he’s the one who starts having bloody diarrhea just from the thought that Russia will come to Crimea.
  57. The comment was deleted.
    1. +1
      25 February 2014 10: 16
      The competent authorities need an appeal from citizens, first, contact them, you can via the Internet on special sites (you will have to indicate your passport details).
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  59. +2
    25 February 2014 10: 15
    If this happens, it means that it is beneficial for the current government or it (the government) does not control the situation. The question arises: what kind of power is this? She has a problem with the new privatization... fool
  60. +4
    25 February 2014 10: 19
    I don’t see any reaction from the authorities to the statements of this old monkey...
  61. +4
    25 February 2014 10: 20
    I don’t see any reaction from the authorities to the statements of this old monkey...
  62. +6
    25 February 2014 10: 21
    Let's write a petition against him! It is necessary to initiate a criminal case under Article 228.
  63. +2
    25 February 2014 10: 27
    But anti-resna - for such a statement there will be something for this patriot of the Crimean Tatars or again the prosecutor’s office will not find anything criminal in his statements? Or won’t he look anymore? And such a garna reguga is simply obliged to find a response in the brains of law enforcement agencies. If they have them, then.
  64. +7
    25 February 2014 10: 28
    And this .uk is allowed on television so that it insults the Russian people. Fire all the editors of this channel. And this .adla lives in Moscow and blathers something else. Evict him to 101 km and let him in there out of anger. It’s coming out a lot. I see that lately too much freedom of speech has been given to all sorts of bastards, either “Echo of Moscow” or ORT are competing to see who has the most invited scum. Is it really impossible to make sure that such kinds of people don’t appear in the media.
  65. +1
    25 February 2014 10: 32
    Or maybe this little man should be banned from giving his sermons in large cities? Deprive him of the opportunity to earn money with his broom, let him tidy up the planet with the help of a broom
  66. +6
    25 February 2014 10: 42
    Head of the Moscow community of Crimean Tatars: “Russians are former slaves, hereditary slaves.”

    Many of our enemies mistook our goodwill for weakness, about which we strongly regretted...
    It's a pity that Art. 282 applies only to Russians...
  67. +13
    25 February 2014 10: 43
    Created a petition to initiate a criminal case against Kudasov. I invite everyone to sign. http://www.avaaz.org/ru/petition/Generalnyy_prokuror_RF_Chayka_Yuriy_Yakovlevich
    _Vozbudit_ugolovnoe_delo_po_state_282_v_otnoshennii_Ernsta_Kudasova/?copy
    1. +2
      25 February 2014 12: 24
      I signed it with pleasure.
      And with great pleasure...I would bend it myself. "Mister" Kudasov - "hereditary slave", ho-ho...
      1. 0
        25 February 2014 12: 52
        written in very harsh tones, and even denouncing all Crimean Tatars... It needs to be more neutral, focusing only on what this *** has said about the Russians. Otherwise it may not work
    2. +1
      25 February 2014 14: 17
      Quote: ilya_oz
      Created a petition


      Sorry, but the petition you are looking for has been closed or does not exist.

      it's a pity .....
      1. +1
        25 February 2014 23: 14
        Quote: sniper
        Sorry, but the petition you are looking for has been closed or does not exist.

        It is open and exists.
    3. btsypulin
      0
      25 February 2014 15: 44
      Good afternoon!

      I also voted. The most interesting thing is that on the same website www.avaaz.org Bandera and Maidan supporters are voting, now they are voting on Kiselev’s transfer (that everything said is a lie) regarding Ukraine.....
  68. vladsolo56
    +1
    25 February 2014 10: 53
    It’s short and simple: all dissatisfied Tatars should be evicted to Turkey, where their homeland is.
    1. +4
      25 February 2014 11: 28
      It would be much more correct to ask Turkey if they agree to accept them? It seems to me that they are not happy with these either!
      1. +1
        25 February 2014 20: 39
        No, evict, evict... But if the Turks don’t want to accept them, then let them rush around the Black Sea...
  69. alex-kon
    +1
    25 February 2014 10: 59
    Lately too many of these liberals have come out. We've completely lost our sense of smell. What is Putin thinking about? It seems like there’s already an article, but he’s still walking around Moscow. request
  70. Blot
    +3
    25 February 2014 11: 03
    In general, Russia now simply needs an iron fist! Sledgehammer!
  71. +2
    25 February 2014 11: 21
    There's no point in reacting to him! Send them to where their paradise released them after suddenly dying, or even further and further north!!! This tribe of infidels, originally engaged in robbery and robbery, should not exist at all at this time!!! Or are we regressing civilization to please these parasites!? Shame on his gray temples! If this nation of traitors has not learned anything from the lessons of history, then there is no place for them on earth! And in general, everything that is happening now among the neighbors borders on total confusion or stupidity, and requires drastic decisions, as in the case of a diagnosis! In Kyiv they are going to plant a new parasite on the body of the people with all its brood! People, wake up!
  72. +2
    25 February 2014 11: 26
    Quote: Blot
    In general, Russia now simply needs an iron fist! Sledgehammer!


    A sledgehammer is needed when there is a need to crush a monolith. Where have you seen the monolith in Ukraine? An attempt to crush human waste with a sledgehammer is fraught with the risk that you yourself will get so splashed that you will not be able to wash yourself off.
    1. Blot
      +2
      25 February 2014 11: 42
      I'm not talking about Ukraine. I'm talking about such Tatars, Muslims, and other American "human rights activists" - liberals - they must be crushed immediately and harshly - very harshly!!! And I don’t care what the West sings!
      1. +1
        25 February 2014 11: 52
        Quote: Blot
        I'm not talking about Ukraine. I'm talking about such Tatars, Muslims, and other American "human rights activists" - liberals - they must be crushed immediately and harshly - very harshly!!! And I don’t care what the West sings!


        I agree with you in principle, but not in the choice of means. When squeezing nits, they usually don’t hit them on the head with a sledgehammer.
        1. Blot
          +2
          25 February 2014 12: 51
          So the fact of the matter is that this nit can very quickly turn into a huge lice!!! Then you will need dichlorvos... so it’s better right away so that not a trace remains! And regarding the slaves, our Algerd defeated them on the “Blue Water”, and then our Vitovt easily conquered their Crimea! They poor fellows printed our Pagonya on their coins - and who are the slaves... Ridiculous. Tatar mongrel...
  73. 0
    25 February 2014 11: 26
    Actually, there is a black mark in the family! But after centuries this wisdom has definitely not increased!
    That's what the above says!
  74. serge
    +6
    25 February 2014 11: 31
    There is evidence to initiate a criminal case. But they don't excite? No guys, this article is only for Russians.
  75. Net
    Net
    +12
    25 February 2014 11: 39
    I am from Crimea myself. I will say this, we must distinguish between the Mejlis and the Tatars, who stand in our Kerch markets and trade meat and milk together with the Russians. The most violent ones live on the South Coast, Simferopol, speculating on land, which they regularly demand supposedly for their landless compatriots, selling fruit at astronomical prices and blocking highways during actions of disobedience regarding mosques or the construction of a monument to Catherine the Second. The biggest interethnic conflict was already quite a long time ago in one village, divided by a river with a bridge into two halves, Tatar and Russian. I don’t remember who started what, but the Tatars immediately called their fellow tribesmen who came from all over Crimea. Cossacks with a pot-bellied general came to our aid to pacify the riot. The police clearly did not expect such a number and the battle “on Kalka” began. The Tatars were defeated quickly, and the police managed to capture a couple of provocateurs from both sides. What's next? It’s simple, Russians stopped buying meat and milk from the Tatars at the market, they took only from their own. It was then that they howled from the economic blockade. The conflict was extinguished, and educational work was carried out among those who were especially zealous. This is how they live now. And further. Among the Tatars there are many who returned after deportation from Central Asia, and not always voluntarily. Radical Islamists threatened to drive them to Crimea. The character of these people is quite normal, they are Soviet people.
  76. 0
    25 February 2014 11: 42
    Old, out of her mind about......ka
  77. +1
    25 February 2014 11: 45
    Current without lynching, deportation to the North Pole
  78. Eugene
    +11
    25 February 2014 11: 47
    I am, of course, very sorry, but it is a myth that the Tatars are the indigenous population of Crimea (Tavria). The first Tatars come to Crimea during the Golden Horde. Before this, the territory of Tavria was inhabited by: Taurians, Cimmerians, Greeks, Scythians, Romans, Goths, Huns, Khazars, Genoese, the latter left behind fortresses throughout the peninsula (the Tatar-Mongols did not erect such structures - because the nomads had no use for them) . And the Crimean Khanate was formalized only in 1441. But already in 1475, the Crimean Khanate became a vassal of the Ottoman Empire. The main occupation of the Crimean Khanate was to carry out constant raids on Ukraine, Russia and Poland. The main purpose of the raids was to capture slaves and resell them in Turkish markets. In 1774, according to the Kuchuk-Kainardzhi Peace Treaty, the Ottomans renounced their claims to Crimea. And Crimea, in fact, is part of the Russian Empire.
    Now about deportation, which is often confused with genocide: in 1944, about 180 - 190 thousand people were resettled; according to the 2001 all-Ukrainian census, about 250 thousand Crimean Tatars live in Crimea.
    I, like many, believe that the deportation of any people is a huge tragedy, but this measure was, unfortunately, at that time necessary for the survival of the country.
    And, lastly, there is no need to go too far - not all Crimean Tatars were traitors.
    Heroes of the Second World War:
    AMETKHAN SULTAN - Twice Hero of the Soviet Union
    ABDURAIM RESHIDOV - Hero of the Soviet Union
    ABDURAMANOV UZEIR ABDURAMANOVICH - Hero of the Soviet Union
    SEIT NEBI ABDURAMANOV - Knight of the Order of Glory, 3 degrees
    etc.
    And, unfortunately, there were plenty of traitors for everyone...
  79. +7
    25 February 2014 11: 48
    So that our common cause does not get bogged down in civil strife, it is necessary to highlight one essential detail: There is one of the many eastern wisdoms - “if you want to defeat the enemy, raise his children.” Those. , as long as we spread rot and abuse the unwanted, inconvenient, fascist, or simply morons of no matter what nationality, we will simply raise a generation of people who hate and take revenge on us. That is why Comrade Putin is making enormous efforts, pouring billions of rubles into the economy of the Chechen Republic, precisely so that children grow up not knowing need and devastation, not knowing war and violence, so that the hearts of children are no longer darkened by sorrow and resentment, but grow and rejoice life like children from other parts of our vast Motherland. Russia is a multinational country, and only support for national self-determination, the study of native languages ​​and history, the joint history of life of the peoples of Russia can lead to equal peaceful and good-neighborly coexistence of a collective of peoples and individuals in particular. Yes, this is a difficult task that requires us to overcome our pride, but who else, if not us, should be smarter and wiser, and therefore more visionary.
    Therefore, resolving the issue of self-determination of the Crimean Tatars lies in the same plane. But where will wisdom come from Ukraine, torn apart by clans and oligarchs engaged in the plunder of their own people and their own lands? I agree that Russia also has flaws, and not small ones, in this regard, but at the very least, our leaders (leader) are pursuing a correct and balanced policy in the right direction. God grant that this course NEVER changes! Believe me, there will always be many dissatisfied people among anyone, and in any case they will play the national card in their own interests (or the interests of the West) to incite internecine intolerance with subsequent destabilization of the region. This is a classic of the genre of tactics of destroying the enemy on his own territory with the help of lies and bribery.
    The winner will be the one who is smarter, more restrained, and more cold-blooded. What was is past, now is the present, and the future depends on the decisions made now. I am by no means belittling the importance of history and the lessons of the past, but we must be more far-sighted, comrades. Children are our future, children! It doesn’t matter whose, what, but CHILDREN!!! Raising children shapes the future community and the future of us swami!
    To summarize my answer, I would like to say that you shouldn’t cast a shadow on the whole people because of one or two provocateurs. Don’t be incited, don’t get angry, this is exactly what people like Kudusov are counting on, it is with your anger that you feed the energy of destruction, the goal of which you yourself are. Yes, there were difficult relationships with the Crimean Tatars, but this is not a reason for a destructive dialogue. Even an angry dog, fed and warmed, subsequently becomes a guard dog, protecting the territory of those who feed it. Remember this...
    1. +4
      25 February 2014 15: 28
      There is one of the many eastern wisdoms - “if you want to defeat the enemy, raise his children.”
      Even an angry dog, fed and warmed, subsequently becomes a guard dog, protecting the territory of those who feed it. Remember this...

      A very wise comment. First, you need to learn how to raise your children yourself in conditions of total information terror and mass “moronization.” There is nowhere to wait for help in this matter today. Only a family can protect its offspring.
      Very true about the angry dog! This is the answer to the liberals to their cries “Why feed the Caucasus.”
    2. 0
      25 February 2014 21: 45
      I agree with you, truly wisdom of judgment! If more people thought this way, regardless of nationality, then there is hope for a better future.
    3. 0
      25 February 2014 21: 45
      I agree with you, truly wisdom of judgment! If more people thought this way, regardless of nationality, then there is hope for a better future.
  80. +3
    25 February 2014 11: 49
    here a person posted in the comments the address for signing a petition to initiate a criminal case against this individual. Come in, subscribe. You need to collect 10.000 signatures
  81. +1
    25 February 2014 11: 50
    This scoundrel, a descendant of the Turkish litter, blathers about the fact that he is cooler than the proto-Ukrainian? Let him remember when his Dirzhava was not a vassal (it’s tempting to change some letters in the word)))).
    Why did they even let him on TV?
  82. Tommyufa
    +4
    25 February 2014 11: 54

    This is the region, guys, it’s just the region. We need to send in troops, you can downvote me.
    1. +4
      25 February 2014 12: 41
      Yes, I saw it.
      And Lugansk Berkut, and Volyn - the same.
      This is all. This is the end of normal life. This is fascism in its purest form.
      Soon they will start burning books by Russian authors, then just Russian-language books.
      Then they will start burning Russian speakers. Alive.
      1. xan
        0
        25 February 2014 15: 28
        Quote: Igarr
        Soon they will start burning books by Russian authors, then just Russian-language books.
        Then they will start burning Russian speakers. Alive.

        When they start, then we’ll go down.
        And now they are revolutionaries who defeated the corrupt government of Yanukovych, supported by Ukrainians tired of lawlessness.
  83. +7
    25 February 2014 11: 55
    Quote: Fox
    and why again "Tatars" ?! name them as they are called KHAZARS!

    Well, in general, you are right, these are the Khazars of pure water. And there are stories about their courage. Deceitful and cowardly
  84. +3
    25 February 2014 12: 01
    They forgot the Tatars how they served as cannon fodder in the barrier detachments of Genghis Khan!! What a small, sycophantic, cunning bunch of people who are sycophantic at the genetic level!! How they like to rewrite history now. and who were they under Ivan the Terrible!! They forgot or don’t want to remember. but history does not forgive this!! Those who do not remember the past have no future!
  85. +5
    25 February 2014 12: 02
    And this sly yellow mug is still at large???

    I have a neighbor. Crimean partisans. He went to the mountains in 1943, when he turned 16. This document will tell better about it than me.
    From the stories of Grigory Vasilyevich
    In 1942, the Tatars wanted to massacre the entire Russian population of Yalta. Then the Russians bowed to the Germans so that they would protect them. The Germans gave the command - do not touch...
    I don’t know a single Tatar who was a member of the partisans...
    On May 18, I was told that I would be taking the Tatars to Simferopol. I would do it again today...
    The Tatars, who had taken refuge in the forests after the eviction, began to attack individual soldiers. The soldier would go into the bushes to take a leak, and the next day they would find him - suspended by his legs, and his penis in his mouth... Then the troops were withdrawn from near Sevastopol and they marched in a chain through all the forests of Crimea. Whoever they found, they shot. The conversation was short. And it makes a lot of sense...
    In general, everything happened like this
    On the eve of World War II, the Crimean Tatars made up less than one fifth of the population of the peninsula. Here are the 1939 census data
    Russian 558481 - 49,6%
    Ukrainians 154120 - 13,7%
    Tatars 218179 - 19,4%
    Nevertheless, the Tatar minority was not at all infringed on their rights in relation to the Russian-speaking population. Rather, the opposite. The official languages ​​of the Crimean ASSR were Russian and Tatar. The administrative principle of the autonomous republic was based on the national principle. In 1930, national village councils were created for Russians - 207, Tatar - 144, German - 37, Jewish - 14, Bulgarian - 9, Greek - 8, Ukrainian - 3, Armenian and Estonian - 2. In addition, national districts were organized. In all schools, children of national minorities studied in their own language.
    After the start of World War II, many Crimean Tatars were drafted into the Red Army. However, their service was short-lived. As soon as the front approached the Crimea, desertion and surrender among them became widespread. It became obvious that the Crimean Tatars are waiting for the arrival of the German army and do not want to fight. The Germans, using the current situation, threw leaflets from the planes with promises to "finally solve the question of their independence" - of course, in the form of a protectorate as part of the German Empire.
    From among the Tatars who surrendered in Ukraine and other fronts, agent cadres were trained and sent to Crimea to strengthen anti-Soviet, defeatist and pro-fascist agitation. As a result, the Red Army units staffed by the Crimean Tatars turned out to be ineffective and after the Germans entered the peninsula, the vast majority of their personnel deserted.
  86. +3
    25 February 2014 12: 06
    1) How were semi-wild shepherds (albeit warlike) able to crush such developed powers as China, Khorezm, the kingdom of the Tanguts, fight through the Caucasus Mountains, Volga Bulgaria, crush the Russian principalities and almost capture Europe, scattering the troops of the Hungarians, Poles, and German knights. After all, it is known from history that any conqueror relies on a developed economy - Napoleon and Hitler had under them the most powerful states of Europe (France and Germany) and practically the resources of all of Europe, the most technologically developed part of the world. The current States have the most powerful economy on the planet, and the ability to buy “brains” and resources for cut paper. Alexander the Great, with all his talents, would not have been able to accomplish even half of his achievements if his father had not created a powerful mining and metallurgical industry, strengthened finances, and carried out a number of military reforms.

    2) We are told about “Tatar-Mongols,” but from biology courses we know that the genes of Negroids and Mongoloids are dominant. And if the “Mongol” warriors, destroying enemy troops, would have passed through Rus' and half of Europe (remind me what they do with women who have been defeated!?), then the current population of Russia and Eastern and Central Europe would be very similar to modern Mongols - short, dark-eyed, coarse black hair, dark, yellowish skin, high cheekbones, epicanthus, flat face, poorly developed tertiary hair (the beard and mustache practically do not grow, or are very thin). Does what is described resemble modern Russians, Poles, Hungarians, Germans? And archaeologists (see, for example, the data of the anthropologist S. Alekseev), when excavating places of fierce battles, find mainly the skeletons of Caucasians. This is confirmed by written sources - they describe Mongol warriors with a European appearance - blond hair, light eyes (gray, blue), tall stature. Sources depict Genghis Khan as tall, with a luxurious long beard, and “lynx-like” green-yellow eyes. The Persian historian of the Horde, Rashid ad Din, writes that in the family of Genghis Khan, children “were mostly born with gray eyes and blond hair.”

    3) The notorious “Mongols” did not leave a single (!) Mongolian word in Rus'. The words “Horde”, familiar from historical novels (for example, V. Yan), are the Russian word Rod, Rada (Golden Horde - Golden Rod, i.e. royal, of divine origin); "tumen" - Russian word for "darkness" (10000); “khan-kagan”, the Russian word “kokhan, kokhany” - beloved, respected, this word has been known since the times of Kievan Rus, this is how the first Rurikovichs were sometimes called, and in the criminal world the word has been preserved - “godfather”. Even the word “Bytyy” is “father”, a respectful name for the leader, which is how the president is still called in Belarus.

    4) Mongols in Mongolia only from Europeans (!) In the 20 century found out that they seized half the world and they had a “shaker of the Universe” - “Genghis Khan” (“rank is Khan”) and from that time they started a business on this name .
  87. +10
    25 February 2014 12: 06
    I don’t know what kind of Tatars they consider themselves to be, my mother is a Tatar, and all my Kazan relatives, and those on Orenburg soil, do not consider them Tatars by blood, they even have a different language, and I don’t know these who are anyone but Tatars ...(Khazars, Turks)....
    1. +5
      25 February 2014 12: 38
      Quote: Isk1984
      and I don’t know these, who are anyone but Tatars...

      So let’s write it down - YOU FUCK!!!!! good
    2. 0
      25 February 2014 14: 30
      Who can be born from Turkish litter?
    3. +1
      25 February 2014 16: 06
      Quote: Isk1984
      My mother is Tatar, and all my Kazan relatives

      Similarly!
    4. Ahmet
      +1
      26 February 2014 14: 48
      There is no need to judge by yourself. In Kazan we have both Crimean Tatars and mixed families, and we, for the most part, are Kazan Tatars and in no way separate our Crimean brothers from us. We have common origins, roots, a common culture and language (I speak as a Turkic specialist). No matter how much the chauvinists and mankurts want to separate the Tatars, nothing will happen. Let us be united and monolithic - this is the only way to ensure the preservation of culture, language and the revival of lost statehood...
  88. +3
    25 February 2014 12: 06
    5) Alexander Yaroslavovich very much acted in concert with the “Horde-Rod” Baty. Batu struck in Central and Southern Europe, almost repeated the campaign "scourge of God" Atilla. Alexander also smashed Westerners on the northern flank - defeated the Swedes and the German knight orders. The West received a terrible blow, and temporarily subsided, “licking its wounds,” while Russia received time to restore unity.

    6) There are many other inconsistencies that destroy the overall picture. So in “The Tale of the Destruction of the Russian Land” it is told about a certain “misfortune” that befell Rus', but there is no mention of the “Mongol-Tatars”. In general, the Russian Chronicles talk about “filthy” ones, i.e. not Christians. In the story “Zadonshchina” (about the Battle of Kulikovo), before the battle, Mamai, surrounded by boyars and esauls, turned to his (!) gods Khors and Perun (Russian pagan gods) and accomplices (helpers) Salavat and Mohammed (part of the population of the “Horde-Rod” accepted Islam).

    What does all this mean !?

    There was no “Tatar-Mongol invasion”, as well as a “Tatar-Mongol yoke”! These are black myths fabricated by the Vatican and German scientists (Miller, Bayer, Schlözer), their Russian accomplices (perhaps not out of malice, without thinking) with the aim of destroying the historical Truth and destroying the True Russian History. By undermining Russian roots, destroying the origins, the leaders of the West are depriving the Russian people of the life-giving force of their Origins, turning them into mindless consumers.

    What really happened, we must figure it out ourselves, clearing the past from the rubble of lies. It is logical to assume that this was an internecine conflict between the divided Rus' that adopted Christianity (Kievan-Vladimir Rus) and the little-studied world of Scythian-Siberian Rus, which preserved the pagan faith of its ancestors. Moreover, Northern Rus' (Novgorod region) eventually supported Batu’s army, taking part in the war with the West.
  89. +4
    25 February 2014 12: 13
    what a disgusting face! belay
  90. 0
    25 February 2014 12: 19
    “During the Patriotic War, many Crimean Tatars changed their Motherland, deserted from the units of the Red Army defending the Crimea, and went over to the enemy, entered the volunteer Tatar military units formed by the Germans who fought against the Red Army; During the occupation of the Crimea by the fascist German forces, participating in the German punitive detachments, the Crimean Tatars were especially notable for their brutal reprisals against the Soviet partisans, and also helped the German invaders in organizing the violent hijacking of Soviet citizens into German slavery and mass extermination of the Soviet people.
    The Crimean Tatars actively cooperated with the German occupation authorities, participating in the so-called “Tatar national committees” organized by German intelligence and widely used by the Germans for the purpose of bringing spies and saboteurs back to the Red Army. The “Tatar National Committees”, in which the White Guard-Tatar emigrants played the main role, with the support of the Crimean Tatars, directed their activities towards the persecution and oppression of the non-Tatarian population of the Crimea and worked to prepare forcible rejection of Crimea from the Soviet Union with the help of the German armed forces.
    Crimean Tatars in the German service. Form Romanian. Crimea, 1943 year. Most likely, these are policemen from the “Schuma” battalion.
  91. +2
    25 February 2014 12: 20
    Taking into account the above, the State Defense Committee decides
    1. All Tatars should be evicted from the territory of the Crimea and settled for permanent residence as special settlers in the areas of the Uzbek SSR. The eviction to impose on the NKVD of the USSR. To oblige the NKVD of the USSR (Comrade Beria) to evict the Crimean Tatars to finish by June 1 1944
    2. Establish the following procedure and conditions for eviction
    a) allow special settlers to take with them personal belongings, clothing, household equipment, dishes and food in quantities up to 500 kilograms per family.
    Remaining property, buildings, outbuildings, furniture and homestead lands are accepted by local authorities; all productive and dairy cattle, as well as poultry are accepted by the People's Commissariat of Industry, all agricultural products by the People's Commissariat of the USSR, horses and other working cattle by the People's Commissariat of the USSR, pedigree cattle - by the People's Commissariat of the USSR.
    Acceptance of livestock, grain, vegetables and other types of agricultural products to produce with the extract of exchange receipts for each locality and each farm.
    Instruct the NKVD of the USSR, the People's Commissariat of Agriculture, the People's Commissariat of Agriculture, the People's Commissariat of Agriculture and the People's Commissariat of the USSR by July 1 this year. submit proposals to the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR on the procedure for returning the exchange receipts to special settlers of cattle, poultry and agricultural products taken from them;
    b) to organize the reception from the special settlers of property, livestock, grain and agricultural products left by them in places of eviction, to send a commission of the CPC to the place.
    To oblige the People's Commissariat of the USSR, the People's Commissariat of the USSR, the NKMiMP USSR, the People's Commissariat of Agriculture of the USSR to provide the necessary number of workers to Crimea to receive livestock, grain and agricultural products from special settlers;
    c) oblige the NKPS to organize the transportation of special settlers from the Crimea to the Uzbek SSR by specially formed echelons according to a schedule drawn up jointly with the NKVD of the USSR. The number of trains, loading stations and destination stations at the request of the NKVD of the USSR. Payments for the carriage to be made at the rate of transport of prisoners;
    d) the People's Commissariat of Health of the USSR should allocate one doctor and two nurses with an appropriate supply of medicines for each echelon with special settlers, in terms of coordination with the NKVD of the USSR, and provide medical and sanitary services for special settlers on the way; The People's Commissariat of the USSR provide all trains with special settlers daily with hot meals and boiling water.
    For catering for special settlers on the way, allocate products to the People's Commissariat in quantity, according to Appendix No. XXUMX.
    3. To oblige Comrade Yusupov, Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party (Bolsheviks) of Uzbekistan, Comrade Abdurakhmanov, Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars of UzSSR, and Comrade Kobulov, People's Commissar of Internal Affairs of the Uzbek SSR, until June 1 of this year. carry out the following activities for the reception and resettlement of special settlers
    a) to accept and resettle, within the Uzbek SSR 140 – 160, thousands of special settlers - Tatars, who were sent by the NKVD of the USSR from the Crimean Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic.
    Special settlers should be resettled in state farm settlements, existing collective farms, subsidiary farms of enterprises and factory settlements for use in agriculture and industry;
    b) in the areas of resettlement of special settlers, create commissions consisting of the chairman of the regional executive committee, the secretary of the regional committee and the head of the UNKVD, entrusting to these commissions all activities related to the reception and accommodation of the arriving special settlers;
    c) in each area of ​​the settlement of special settlers to organize district troikas consisting of the chairman of the district executive committee, the secretary of the district committee and the head of the NKVD Regional Directorate, entrusting them with the placement and reception of the arriving special settlers;
    d) prepare guzhavtotransport for transportation of special settlers, mobilizing for this the transport of any enterprises and institutions;
    e) to provide the allotment of arriving special settlers with personal plots and to assist in the construction of houses with local building materials;
  92. Jack7691
    +4
    25 February 2014 12: 20
    Savages whom the Russians taught to eat with a spoon and not shit on the street, and settled them in warm houses with a bathroom. But the roots take their toll - their ideal is to be a bay, eat with your hands and not wash.
    Civilization is f...d!
  93. +3
    25 February 2014 12: 28
    cut off the head of this pig immediately. A severed head cannot speak.
  94. Egor.nic
    +2
    25 February 2014 12: 40
    Quote: 225chay
    It seems that without approval from above from the Kremlin, such statements would not have been born.

    Utter nonsense............
  95. +5
    25 February 2014 12: 44
    What is this elderly woman freezing, what a thousand years of slavery. There was no slavery, just as we gave cradles to everyone who came to our land, we will continue to give them. And all Russian history began to be rewritten by the West under Empress Anna Ioannovna.

    M.V. Lomonosov fell into disgrace because of his disagreements with German scientists who formed the backbone of the Academy of Sciences in the 1725th century. Under Empress Anna Ioannovna, a stream of foreigners poured into Russia. Starting from 1841, when the Russian Academy was created, and until XNUMX, the foundation of Russian history was remade by the following “benefactors” of the Russian people who arrived from Europe and spoke little Russian, but quickly became experts in Russian history, and who filled the historical department of the Russian Academy:

    Kohl Peter (1725), Fischer Johann Eberhard (1732), Kramer Adolf Bernhard (1732), Lotter Johann Georg (1733), Leroy Pierre-Louis (1735), Merling Georg (1736), Brem Johann Friedrich (1737), Tauber Johann Gaspard (1738), Crusius Christian Gottfried (1740), Moderach Karl Friedrich (1749), Stritter Johann Gottgilf (1779), Hackmann Johann Friedrich (1782), Busse Johann Heinrich (1795), Vauvillier Jean-François (1798), Klaproth Heinrich Julius (1804), Hermann Karl Gottlob Melchior (1805), Krug Johann Philipp (1805), Lerberg August Christian (1807), Köhler Heinrich Karl Ernst (1817), Fran Christian Martin (1818), Graefe Christian Friedrich (1820), Schmidt Issac Jacob (1829), Schöngren Johann Andreas (1829), Charmois France-Bernard (1832), Fleischer Heinrich Leberecht (1835), Lenz Robert Christianovich (1835), Brosset Marie-Felicité (1837), Dorn Johann Albrecht Bernhard (1839) . The year of entry of the named foreigner into the Russian Academy is indicated in brackets


    http://army-news.ru/2012/11/za-chto-mixail-lomonosov-byl-prigovoren-k-smertnoj-k

    azni /
  96. +6
    25 February 2014 12: 51
    In general, by and large, this mug has nothing to do with the Tatar people. Just like there is no such people as “Crimean Tatars”, these are the descendants of the Turks and Ottomans. For those who doubt, go to Ufa, a real Tatar is fair-haired and gray-eyed, but On medieval maps, the entire space beyond Muscovy was called Tartaria, and not at all because the Tartars (in Tartarars) lived there, it was just that they were remote, unexplored lands, and children were exiled there and frightened with them.
    “Irrefutable natural scientific facts, moreover, obtained by independent American scientists. Disputing them is the same as disagreeing with the results of a blood test in a clinic. They are not disputed. They are simply hushed up. They are hushed up amicably and stubbornly, they are hushed up, one might say, completely. And there are reasons for this.
    The first such reason is quite trivial and boils down to scientific false solidarity. Too many theories, concepts and scientific reputations will have to be refuted if they are revised in the light of the latest discoveries of ethnogenetics.
    For example, we will have to rethink everything that is known about the Tatar-Mongol invasion of Rus'. The armed conquest of peoples and lands was always and everywhere accompanied at that time by the mass rape of local women. Traces in the form of Mongolian and Turkic haplogroups should have remained in the blood of the male part of the Russian population. But they are not there! Solid R1a1 and nothing more, the purity of the blood is amazing. This means that the Horde that came to Rus' was not at all what is commonly thought of it; if the Mongols were present there, it was in statistically insignificant numbers, and who was called “Tatars” is generally unclear. Well, which scientist will refute scientific foundations, supported by mountains of literature and great authorities?!"
    1. +2
      25 February 2014 13: 47
      It’s all true, you can’t argue against blood
  97. +3
    25 February 2014 12: 51
    This descendant of the plucked Crimean people has forgotten his place. Happens. He is like a crow sensing spring - he will crow troubles for his people, for it tends to repeat itself.
    Quote: Egor.nic
    Quote: 225chay
    It seems that without approval from above from the Kremlin, such statements would not have been born.

    Utter nonsense............


    Absolutely right. You don’t bend over for every sneeze. But... are the editor and presenter already correspondents for the newspaper "Dawns of Magadan"? No? - this is what gives rise to the idea among the ghouls that they can lie and pour slop on Russia.
    1. smersh70
      -4
      25 February 2014 13: 08
      Quote: Chen
      Crimean people

      Respect other peoples first of all, and only then will they respect YOU... Write correctly, Dear, in this way you only repel others from yourself, and do not attract them.
  98. +11
    25 February 2014 12: 57
    I warn the Crimean Tatars. Do not have any illusions that Bandera’s people will allow you to create your national autonomy in Crimea. It’s the Russians who are chuckling and coddling you. Bandera’s people will first pit you against the Russians, and then liquidate those who remain. Read the constitution of Ukraine (Ukraine is a unitary state ), read Bandera, he points out directly: no one except Ukrainians has the right to life in Ukraine. Do not interfere with Crimea’s unification with Russia.
    1. smersh70
      +1
      25 February 2014 13: 06
      Quote: Cucumbers
      I warn the Crimean Tatars

      Their representatives are not here bully , but I'll tell you))))
      Quote: Cucumbers
      Bandera's men will first pit you against the Russians, and then liquidate those who remain.

      Is there really such a Bandera nation? wink there seem to be Ukrainians)))
      1. +1
        25 February 2014 13: 26
        Is there really such a Bandera nation? I think there are Ukrainians)))
        ______________
        Unfortunately, there is, and every nation has its own “Banderaites”
      2. +9
        25 February 2014 13: 38
        You probably don’t know from afar what is happening here. In short, the Ukrainians are those who have always been among the Russians, next to the Russians and together with the Russians - our Slavic brothers. As a result of the Second World War, several regions whose residents do not share the idea of ​​fraternity between Ukraine and Russia and consider Russians and Russia enemies. We call them Banderaites. As a result of the latest events in Ukraine, it was these forces that came to power. It is they who are turning Ukraine around and putting it on the path of hostility and confrontation with the Russians and Russia.
      3. 0
        25 February 2014 21: 32
        Yes, there are Ukrainians, a very young nation! and naive!
        1. Yaromir
          +1
          26 February 2014 09: 43
          “Ukrainian” - there is no such nation, there is the state of Ukraine, uniting several ethnic groups.
      4. Yaromir
        0
        26 February 2014 09: 53
        First, independent Ukraine was created and patronized by the Austrians, then the Poles, then the Germans and now the Americans. From Ukraine, Western nation-states tried to make the same state-nation with all the ensuing consequences in the form of the artificial creation of an artificial people with artificially instilled rudiments of Russophobia, which in our time are sprouting excellent results.
  99. 0
    25 February 2014 13: 01
    Quote: zeml_82
    I am, of course, very sorry, but it is a myth that the Tatars are the indigenous population of Crimea (Tavria). The first Tatars come to Crimea during the Golden Horde.


    Crimean Tatars are the collective name of the peoples who inhabited the Crimea and the adjacent Caucasian mountainous regions. These are descendants of different peoples, among whom are the Khazars and Cumans and many other tribes. Time does not stand still and peoples are assimilated, absorbed, and migrate. This process is happening non-stop at the moment. Therefore, it cannot be said that the Tatars came with the Golden Horde. Khan Batu conquered the lands not only of the Crimea, but he was not a “Tatar” either. Batu, like Genghis Khan, were Mongol commanders. It cannot be argued that the peoples of Crimea and other regions of Eurasia who inhabited were glad to be conquered. Believe me, they fought as best they could, but the forces were unequal. This is history. Therefore, let me correct you - the Crimean Tatars are one of the many indigenous peoples of the Crimean population.
    1. +3
      25 February 2014 13: 09
      You probably didn’t read carefully, I’ll repeat it again “The Mongols in Mongolia only learned from Europeans (!) in the 20th century that they had captured half the world and they had a “shaker of the Universe” - “Genghis Khan” (“rank is khan”) and from that time They started doing business on this name."
      That's why they can't find his grave.
      1. 0
        25 February 2014 14: 07
        Empires arise, flourish, fall apart and sink into oblivion... this is what happened with the Mongols... They slipped into feudalism, and still live in it, quietly stewing in their own broth... And the fact that Europeans are so smart and remember everything - the same myth, otherwise they would not invent and rewrite stories every time, according to momentary benefit. And the Mongols had legends about the great Genghis Khan, so they will remain...
        In addition, Genghis Khan did not have so many Mongols to conquer half the world; rather, the allied tribes that joined the strong ones made up the army of the Mongols...

        But it’s interesting - who can residents of Russia classify themselves as Europeans or Asians?
        1. xan
          +2
          25 February 2014 15: 33
          Quote: Sultan
          But it’s interesting - who can residents of Russia classify themselves as Europeans or Asians?

          Many Russian residents don't care about this.
          It is the Ukrainians who are concerned about this.
          1. 0
            25 February 2014 22: 10
            And the question is very difficult! after all, a third of Russia and even Russians are not genetically Aryan! To classify yourself as Europeans, Caucasians or Asians is a purely personal matter, but secondary! This also applies to religious affiliation! First, we are Russians because we are in the zone of influence of Russian culture, we take advantage of the benefits received through this culture! that means we are all Russian! According to culture! Russians by geolocation! and only then: Tatars, Chechens, Buddhists and everything else! ready to take part in the debate on this issue!
          2. +1
            25 February 2014 22: 32
            To the Russians. Rus' is a separate civilization living in Eastern European lands. Russians and Europeans and Asians - in essence they are Russians.
        2. +2
          25 February 2014 16: 40
          Quote: Sultan
          Empires arise, flourish, fall apart and sink into oblivion... this is what happened with the Mongols

          Was there such an empire?
          1. 0
            25 February 2014 17: 10
            Certainly!!! The Great Mongol State had all the properties of an empire:
            - Having a strong army
            - strict one-man power
            - great foreign policy influence
            - loyalty of the multinational population
            - vast (colonial or conquered) territories
            1. +1
              25 February 2014 17: 26
              Quote: Sultan
              Certainly!!! The Great Mongol State had all the properties of an empire:

              Sorry, but I haven’t believed in fairy tales about the great Mongol Genghis Khan for a long time, given that there are NO monuments to this very “empire” in nature.
              There are pyramids, the Colosseum, monuments of Greek civilization, civilization of the interfluve, but there are NO monuments of the Mongols
            2. Yaromir
              0
              26 February 2014 09: 40
              And what does the great Mongol state have to do with it, the Tatars are not Mongols, and there never was a Mongol-Tatar yoke - all these are attempts to rewrite history in order to create an imaginary enemy.
          2. Yaromir
            0
            26 February 2014 09: 41
            you distinguish Mongols from Tatars.
        3. Jack7691
          0
          26 February 2014 15: 55
          It is precisely because some peoples, unlike the Russians, still cannot decide on their “uniqueness” that all the clashes occur. Like a monkey from a joke, they are torn between the smart and the beautiful.
          Russians are proud of something else - that they have created a great empire from sea to sea, and about which any European or Asian will break their teeth (and not only).
          Considering yourself Russian is pride! Remember Dahl - a Dane by nationality, he came to Russia at the age of 30, but considered himself Russian.
          And in general, the greatness of the nation is visible in its achievements - if the Russians fly into space, then the “Crimean Tatars” want slaves and to be a lord in a greasy robe. Compare for yourself...
  100. +4
    25 February 2014 13: 16
    Russians have never been slaves. Don't believe it, history was rigged for us.
    1. +1
      25 February 2014 16: 35
      We don’t believe it, what next?
      The problem is not the notorious “I don’t believe it”, but the fact that we are again losing the war on the ideological front.
      The Internet resources of our “allies” from neighboring countries are replete with offensive statements addressed to Russians, Russia, and the president, but the most disgusting thing is that the state structures of the Russian Federation have nothing to do with this
      1. Uhe
        Uhe
        +2
        25 February 2014 18: 32
        Excuse me for interfering, but this “president” himself is disgusted by the word “Russian”. It was he who has long ago repeatedly stated that Russia is not for Russians. The attitude of the authorities inside the country towards the largest and true state-forming people is the same outside. What has the Russian Federation done to protect Russians abroad, including Ukraine? Nothing. What about inside Russia? Nothing too. One United Russia member dresses pigs in Russian uniforms, another proposes to fill Moscow with blood - just two examples. Who answered? Nobody.

        And about slavery. The natives often mistake law-abiding for servility. This is because their statehood is not developed, they live according to the concepts of the ancient Middle Ages - completely undeveloped people mentally. There is no need to be offended by such people, you just need to show your strength and put them in their place. And first of all, this should be done by the government itself. And she is silent, and not just silent, but protects her geeks who sing in a similar-nosed manner. Here's your answer. But any law-abiding citizen will get tired of it later or later when the game goes to one goal.
        1. 0
          25 February 2014 19: 03
          Quote: Uhe
          It is he who has long ago repeatedly stated that Russia is not for Russians. The attitude of the authorities inside the country towards the largest and true state-forming people is the same outside.

          The problem is that the concept of Russian is interpreted differently by everyone.
          the phrase “Russia for Russians” in which our home-grown Nazis (not to be confused with nationalists) put it into it, and it is precisely this meaning that the GDP rejected, means the end of Russia.
          Quote: Uhe
          One United Russia member dresses pigs in Russian uniforms
          give me the link, this is the first time I've heard this