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Azerbaijan buys Typhoon fighters from Britain

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Azerbaijan buys Typhoon fighters from Britain - with such a sensational news the influential British newspaper The Telegraph spoke on the eve, reports haqqin.az.


Azerbaijan buys Typhoon fighters from Britain


According to the publication, last year, the UK took 4-e place in the world for the sale of fighter "Eurofighter Typhoon" to the Persian Gulf. These fighters are considered among the most modern and powerful in the world. According to the rating of arms exporters, last year, the UK was ahead of Germany even by several positions and exported weapons worth 3.9 billion dollars. It is not only about sold military products on the basis of contracts, but about the sale of weapons to all interested consumers.

Only one Saudi Arabia exported 72 fighter worth 2 billion dollars. However, the contract for the sale of fighters in the United Arab Emirates was unexpectedly foiled. And now the British manufacturer Typhoon - the company ”BAE Systems is negotiating with Azerbaijan, Kuwait and Qatar to sell its fighters to these countries.

Recall that the Typhoon fighter, a fourth-generation multipurpose fighter, was developed and produced by Eurofighter GmbH, created in 1986 by the consortium Alenia Aeronautica, BAE Systems and EADS.

Currently being mass production of the fighter. The aircraft was commissioned by the Air Forces of Germany, Italy, Spain, Austria and the United Kingdom.

Recall that the Air Force of Azerbaijan is currently provided with Russian fighters - “MIG” and “Su”. If the deal goes through and Azerbaijan purchases these fighters, our country will be the first in the post-Soviet space, possessing the most powerful and advanced military aircraft. And it will further strengthen its military superiority over Armenia.
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  1. Edward72
    Edward72 25 February 2014 07: 17
    +9
    And it will further strengthen its military superiority over Armenia.

    I have long said for whom these gifts are purchased.
    1. Ihrek
      Ihrek 25 February 2014 07: 22
      +10
      While Armenia and Russia, there will be no military superiority.
      1. Phase
        Phase 25 February 2014 11: 43
        +6
        Quote: Jamal1974
        While Armenia and Russia, there will be no military superiority.

        It goes without saying. We do not need Turkey's strengthening, therefore Armenia is our long-term ally. As the saying goes "only business, nothing personal".
        I do not understand the other in the article. Here is this phrase which means:

        "last year Great Britain took 4th place in the world for the sale of Eurofighter Typhoon fighters to Gulf countries"

        That is, there are WHOLE THREE countries that sell more Gulf Typhoons to the Gulf countries than Great Britain? Once last in 4th place? What kind of countries are these?
        Or was it something else?

        And why the title of the article contradicts its content? The headline says that Azerbaijan buys "typhoons". From the article, it turns out that he does NOT buy - some negotiations are just going on.
        Why in the illustration of F-16 instead of Typhoons? Does the author see the difference?
        It is strange to see such unprofessional material on this site.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 25 February 2014 17: 30
          +2
          Hello, Phase. Probably, it was meant that Eurofighter is the joint brainchild of Europeans (England, Germany, Italy, Spain) and that others are also supplying.
          In general, it’s very expensive. Then Rafal (he already has AFAR) should be considered. In general, it is surprising how successful the MiG-21 wing was - all Europeans create similar ones (Grip, Raf, Tai). And this is the front wing for all Europeans. At Typhoon, an engine with OVT is being made. The front wings + ATS is what will he have maneuverability ?! hi
          1. Phase
            Phase 25 February 2014 17: 48
            +1
            Quote: Kasym
            In general, it’s very expensive. Then Rafal (he already has AFAR) must be considered

            Hello! And the explanation is as simple as the corner of a house.
            1. Two months ago, the Emirates refused to supply Typhoon fighters without giving any reasons:
            http://warfiles.ru/show-44673-emiraty-otkazalis-ot-istrebiteley-typhoon.html

            2. Week Nazal Germany also refused the last batch of Typhoon fighters:
            http://warfiles.ru/show-48917-germaniya-otkazalas-ot-37-istrebiteley-typhoon.htm
            l

            (the reason is called a reduction, but they always say so so as not to harm the brand).

            So the guys want to sell at least to someone - Zimbabwe, Azerbaijan, and even Euromaidan. But Azerbaijan will not buy them. We remember how he bought Chinese "Thunder". If they were not pulled, then you can forget about typhoons. wink
            1. alone
              alone 25 February 2014 19: 59
              +3
              Quote: Phase
              We remember how he bought Chinese "Thunder". If they were not pulled, then you can forget about typhoons

              They didn’t pull it up as loudly said. The country has 50 billion in foreign exchange reserves. Only 5 billion dollars in cash has been set aside to strengthen the Air Force. They turned to Russia, were denied the Su-30s. They haven’t taken so far because they don’t correspond to those the necessary standards of modern combat aviation.

              If you don’t want to sell, you don’t have to. Sell for loans to others.% Billion will go to others. Money doesn’t smell. It could be that this money would go to your treasury. You don’t want to.
              1. Phase
                Phase 27 February 2014 14: 27
                0
                Quote: lonely
                They didn’t pull up as it was said loudly. The country has 50 billion in foreign exchange reserves.

                And what is 50 billion? Funny pennies. We won Ukraine 15 and are ready to give 35 more. For small expenses. With such income, you cannot afford modern aviation. Even the "Thunder" is Chinese.
                Quote: lonely
                If you don’t want to sell, you don’t have to. Sell for loans to others.% Billion will go to others. Money doesn’t smell. It could be that this money would go to your treasury. You don’t want to.

                No, we do not need to strengthen Turkey. We have much more to sell gas to Europe than to sell a small batch of fighters to Azerbaijan. You won’t buy big - you are not India. wink
                1. MAGRIB
                  MAGRIB 13 June 2017 12: 22
                  0
                  Well, how much gas have you sold to Europe over the past 3 years?)))
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  3. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 25 February 2014 07: 23
    +14
    neither cold nor hot ... even a plus, Armenia will be pressed closer to us ...
    1. vo.dum
      vo.dum 25 February 2014 08: 02
      0
      I agree. They will not gain any decisive advantage. And Azerbaijan needs to express its "feh" so that it would be clear to the blind that this is "feh" in case of purchase
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        1. smersh70
          smersh70 25 February 2014 17: 39
          +2
          Quote: cherkas.oe
          whoever wants it, all the same, it’s a transfer of money, from them there are warriors, like from a bullet from Mr.

          it will go ---
        2. Kasym
          Kasym 25 February 2014 17: 45
          +4
          Vo.dum, You are in the subject that Russia cannot sell aircraft to either Kazakhstan or Azerbaijan. We laid eyes on the MiG-35, but it is not there yet.
          Cherkas.oe I remember these black ... all of Russia, China, India and Persia bent down and more than one century. And in the Second World War they fought bravely. So your "vyser" (sorry for the rudeness) did not convince anyone. And where do so many nationalists come from?
          1. marshes
            marshes 25 February 2014 19: 57
            +2
            Quote: Kasym
            , You are in the subject that Russia cannot sell planes to either Kazakhstan or Azerbaijan. We laid eyes on the MiG-35, but it is not there yet.

            Good evening, Russia appears to have refused to modernize the Kazakhstan SU-27, so Belarus was modernized.
            But the possibility of turning the Su-27 into a multi-functional fighter (after the Russians refused to perform this kind of work) became interested in Kazakhstan. In 2007, a contract was signed between Astana and Minsk to finalize 10 Su-27 and Su-27UB fighters to the Su-27M2 and Su-27UBM2 versions.

            The first modernized Su were transferred to Kazakhstan in December 2009 goals, the last at the moment - in December 2013. Advanced vehicles were included in the squadron of “Barca Zhetisu” 604th air base in Taldy-Kurgan.

            Currently, the Kazakh Air Force has 34 Su-27S and Su-27UB fighters. Information on whether they will all be upgraded to version M2 is not yet available.

            According to Jane's International Defense Review, Kazakh fighters upgraded to the Su-27UBM2 version received an upgraded H001 airborne radar station, as well as a container targeting system for high-precision weapons Lightning-3 manufactured by the Israeli company Rafael.

            This made it possible to significantly expand the range of airborne weapons. Now it includes air-to-air missiles R-27ER, R-27ET, R-73 and RVV-AE. In addition, the aircraft can launch air-to-ground missiles Kh-25ML, Kh-29T, Kh-29L, Kh-31A and Kh-31R.

            The Su-27UBM2 can also carry laser-guided aerial bombs KAB-500L and KAB-1500L weighing 500 and 1 kg, respectively, as well as KAB-500Kr and KAB-500Kr with a television guidance system. Also, this fighter can use unguided bombs weighing up to 1500 kilograms and unguided missiles S-500, S-8 and S-13.

            If we talk about other major innovations, the accuracy of the navigation system was improved. The Su-27 also got the opportunity to transmit information about ground and air targets to other aircraft of the group, as well as to ground stations and control centers. The Su-27UBM2 engines received a new control and diagnostic system that is capable of transmitting and writing to flash cards information about the status of power plants.
          2. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 26 February 2014 15: 35
            -2
            Quote: Kasym
            And where so many nationalists come from

            And I'm not a nationalist, I just treat all of you very carefully and incredulously now, to the Kazakhs, after my uncle was forced to leave Almaat in 91 after 65 years of life and work in the republic, to Azerbaijan after my friend’s parents left Baku, and another friend after the death of his mother was not allowed to sell the house, and when he arrived in Krasnodar he went down for three months from nervous exhaustion. And now answer yourself could this be in Russia? And where does so much incredulous and cautious towards the Turkic-speaking come from? - FROM THE CAMEL. And there is no need here to build a virgin from anything that does not understand. So sorry-YOU-sulfur is with you. And I have life experience confirmed by facts.
  4. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 25 February 2014 07: 26
    +2
    Azerbaijani. Baijan.Yes, let them spend money. The brains will fall into place, though not soon. It will turn out, over time, as in a joke, "The girl did not break for a long time, the button accordion did not cry for a long time!"
    1. xetai9977
      xetai9977 25 February 2014 10: 32
      +3
      UHH, how much bile is spilled just because they ONLY WRITTEN about buying Typhoons. Honestly, I don’t believe it .. True, they are very good planes, but very expensive, "Gripenes" are much more preferable .. Users from Russia once again prove that it is alien to them to respect the opinion of other countries and peoples.
      1. Basileus
        Basileus 25 February 2014 11: 06
        +7
        Well, as others are respected in Azerbaijan, it can be seen in the last paragraph. Bile and lies are so cute)
        1. kotdavin4i
          kotdavin4i 25 February 2014 11: 39
          +1
          Quote: Basileus
          Well, as others are respected in Azerbaijan, it can be seen in the last paragraph

          And what do you personally have against Azerbaijan? Eurovision 2012, international competitions, economic forums, your Russian bloggers and journalists who come to visit us are satisfied. There is a good proverb: What is hi, such is the answer! I hope you understand what I mean.
      2. cherkas.oe
        cherkas.oe 25 February 2014 15: 51
        -4
        Quote: xetai9977
        foreign to the opinions of other countries and peoples.

        We behave in such a way in relation to those who do not respect us and our country, living at the expense of us and chasing us around every corner.
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 25 February 2014 17: 42
          +2
          Quote: cherkas.oe
          living at the expense of us and circling us at every corner.

          Dear, you made a mistake with the address wassat If you look from the north to the Caucasus, you are a little to the right, your bully
        2. Apollo
          25 February 2014 18: 40
          0
          Quote: cherkas.oe
          We behave this way towards those who do not respect us and our country.

          Imagine that I respected, respect and will respect Russia. There are a lot of people like me in Azerbaijan. Why should I have a lot of friends in Russia, including here on the forum, I should not respect ?! Why on earth did I serve an emergency in ZabVO in the Chita region in Russia, got a law degree and should stop respecting Russia ?! Such as you will never bring confusion and confusion into the relations between peoples. The first one in Azerbaijan who says too little about the Russians and Russia, will receive from me a weighty slap in the face !!!
          Quote: cherkas.oe
          living at the expense of us and circling us at every corner.

          In the days of the USSR, and even now, Azerbaijan is a self-sufficient republic. Another thing is how these funds are managed. There is no accountability to the people, I act on the principle as I want and turn it around.Sooner or later, they will have to hold ANSWER to the people. Kara will overtake everyone.
          1. cherkas.oe
            cherkas.oe 26 February 2014 15: 13
            +1
            Personally, I have no reason not to trust. But there is something to compare with. And not one aunt said at the level, but the experience of close friends of the Born and raised in Baku and who had friends there, and who were such patriots of the hometown that they could give in your face for a bad word about Baku or Azerbaijanis, but alas and ah. After the flight from Baku of the parents of one and the inability to inherit a native home after the death of the mother of another, my friends radically revised their views on your country and its indigenous people, to their deep regret. I will explain one Russian, the second Armenian.
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 25 February 2014 12: 05
      +6
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Brains will fall into place, though not soon

      I didn’t understand what exactly it was necessary to buy Russian. Then we would be good. So they asked Russia to sell us the planes, did not want to. So what...... angry Holy is never empty, Dear ..
  5. Alex66
    Alex66 25 February 2014 07: 31
    +3
    Azerbaijan needs to read how many American bombs did not explode in the war for the Falkland Islands, now it is dangerous to hope for someone else's weapons, it is better to live in peace with neighbors.
    1. Santa Fe
      Santa Fe 25 February 2014 08: 43
      +5
      Quote: Alex66
      how many American bombs didn’t explode in the Falkland Islands war,

      But American planes flew brilliantly!
      Skyhawks, Hercules, KC-130, Boeings and Lirjets ...

      As for the American bombs, of which 80% did not explode, the args themselves are to blame. 30 years of storage without proper care + too low discharge height, the fuses did not have time to stand on a combat platoon. For the top-mast bombing, other b / ps are needed, but the args had only Mk.80

      A-4 Skyhawk naval attack aircraft at AB Rio Grande, about. Tierra del Fuego
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 25 February 2014 17: 43
        +1
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        But American planes flew brilliantly!

        By the way, you are very objective recently good
        1. cherkas.oe
          cherkas.oe 26 February 2014 16: 01
          +1
          Quote: smersh70
          By the way, you are very objective recently

          Like Grandpa Krylov's pancake: - "The cuckoo, praises the rooster ...." - then you yourself know. wassat
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 25 February 2014 08: 49
      0
      Quote: Alex66
      better to live in peace with neighbors.

      I will look at you how you will live in the world when 20% of the territory is occupied and million refugees.
    3. xetai9977
      xetai9977 25 February 2014 10: 33
      +1
      Alex66, how do you imagine "living in peace with neighbors" who occupy 20% of your territory?
      1. Basileus
        Basileus 25 February 2014 11: 07
        +4
        Is it okay that Armenians live there? Something I did not notice that you are going to attack a neighbor who "occupies" 200% of your population.
        1. kotdavin4i
          kotdavin4i 25 February 2014 11: 42
          +4
          Quote: Basileus
          But nothing that the Armenians live there?

          So God grant them health. let them live, nobody will drive them! They will receive passports of citizens of the Azerbaijan Republic and that’s all, in Baku, and so they live quite a lot - and how would everyone .... hi
        2. smersh70
          smersh70 25 February 2014 12: 10
          +3
          Quote: Basileus
          Is it okay that Armenians live there? Something I did not notice that you are going to attack a neighbor who "occupies" 200% of your population.

          Head of the socio-political department of the Presidential Administration Ali Hasanov ---
          We want to establish neighborly relations with Armenians based on international norms. We perceive the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh as our citizens and guarantee them all civil rights. We are supporters of opening all communications in the South Caucasus, establishing economic, political, social and cultural ties, participation of Armenians in transnational projects of Azerbaijan in the future. However, all this on condition that the Armenians must liberate the occupied lands of Azerbaijan, recognize the genocide committed by them against the Azerbaijanis and apologize to the Azerbaijani people. Only after that we will be ready for cooperation and to direct all our potential, both as a state and as a member of the world community, towards the well-being and happy future of the peoples of the South Caucasus. "
          1. Papakiko
            Papakiko 25 February 2014 12: 29
            +1
            Quote: smersh70
            We are committed to the opening of all communications in the South Caucasus, the establishment of economic, political, social and cultural ties, the participation of Armenians in transnational projects of Azerbaijan in the future.

            And in 1991, was not fate united in place of a break?
            Your mutually respectful helmsmen have decided (incited from the Buckingham and oval offices) that each has his own plot and mutually raided the war!
            It is instead of wine, cognac, barbecue and mutual flowering under the sun. drinks
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 25 February 2014 13: 22
              +3
              Quote: Papakiko
              And in 1991, was not fate united in place of a break?

              The question is not for us smile question to 3 representatives of the Slavic world in Pushcha wink
              1. Papakiko
                Papakiko 25 February 2014 13: 54
                +1
                Quote: smersh70
                question to 3 representatives of the Slavic world in Pushcha

                Foolish.
                No one stopped you from loudly accepting Russian citizenship and voting in all your trumpets that you are part of Russia, like Tatarstan or Bashkiria.
                Instead, they were overwhelmed with sovereignty and unleashed a massacre.
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 25 February 2014 14: 13
                  +2
                  Quote: Papakiko
                  Who didn’t stop you from accepting Russian citizenship loudly

                  Che and nonsense. We are not national minorities in some state in order to take citizenship of another republic. About what, you dear fool
                  Quote: Papakiko
                  Instead, they were overwhelmed with sovereignty and unleashed a massacre.

                  There are no words .... he is not adequate .....
                  1. Papakiko
                    Papakiko 25 February 2014 16: 36
                    +1
                    Quote: smersh70
                    We are not national minorities in any state in order to accept the citizenship of another republic.

                    And why then do you write two-faced:
                    Quote: smersh70
                    The question is not for us the question for 3 representatives of the Slavic world in Pushcha

                    Quote: smersh70
                    There are no words .... he is not adequate ..

                    And you have everything in visual clarity according to the teachings of philosophy and logic.?
                    Quote: smersh70
                    We are committed to the opening of all communications in the South Caucasus, the establishment of economic, political, social and cultural ties, the participation of Armenians in transnational projects of Azerbaijan in the future. However, all this provided that the Armenians must liberate the occupied lands of Azerbaijan, recognize the genocide committed by them against the Azerbaijanis and apologize to the Azerbaijani people.

                    Before staring at stains, look for stains from your logs. hi
                    1. smersh70
                      smersh70 25 February 2014 17: 48
                      +2
                      Quote: Papakiko
                      And why then do you write two-faced:

                      Dear! THE REPUBLICS were not national minorities in the USSR! They created the USSR on an equal basis !!!
                      Another thing is national minorities in the union republic !!!!!!!!!!
                      why would a union republic give up its sovereignty and become part of Russia or another state. Now I’ll ask you a question: why didn’t you join somewhere wassat
                      Quote: Papakiko
                      The question is not for us the question for 3 representatives of the Slavic world in Pushcha

                      Yes, they themselves gathered and ruined the USSR. Of course, they asked ...
                      1. Papakiko
                        Papakiko 25 February 2014 20: 40
                        +1
                        Quote: smersh70
                        Yes, they themselves gathered and ruined the USSR. Of course, they asked ...

                        The CIS was proposed, but everyone did not like this concept.
                        And what did everyone else do so that the sudden horse of the USSR did not happen?
                        Quickly staged a parade of sovereignty, right?
                        And great zeal is not observed among the former "sisters" to join the EurAsEC Customs Union.
                        Quote: smersh70
                        why would a union republic give up its sovereignty and become part of Russia

                        Ohhhhhhh now everyone is sovereign and independent of $ !!
                        Funny! wassat
                2. Apollo
                  25 February 2014 19: 00
                  +2
                  Quote: Papakiko
                  No one stopped you from loudly accepting Russian citizenship and voting in all your trumpets that you are part of Russia, like Tatarstan or Bashkiria.


                  Dear, it was the USSR, I decipher, the Union (voluntary association) of the Soviet (form of government) Socialist (system and ideology) Republics (form of state). 15 republic was included. Now you are proposing to enter the Russian Federation. Let first A. Lukashenko set an example and enter in Russia, and we'll see and think. If my memory serves me, he concluded an agreement with Russia on allied the state and not about joining the Russian Federation. Or am I wrong ?!
                  1. Papakiko
                    Papakiko 25 February 2014 23: 06
                    -1
                    Quote: Apollon
                    Now you are proposing to join the Russian Federation. Let first A. Lukashenko set an example and enter the Russian Federation and we will look and think. If my memory serves me, he concluded an agreement with Russia on a union state and not on joining the Russian Federation. Or am I wrong ?!

                    I’m right, of course, but only in what the mother gave birth!
                    And the rest is plots for different groups of people, and no one voluntarily gave away these plots.
                    Under the sunshine, the USSR grew and got stronger and teeth showed.
                    Just do not forget that Russia fed you with a pier (RSFSR).
                    And although everyone was rebooting, everyone’s memory is now NOT EASY.
                3. alone
                  alone 25 February 2014 20: 04
                  +2
                  Who poured you the last 100 grams. Azerbaijan was not part of the RSFSR. Azerbaijan was one of the 15 union republics. Learn the materiel.
                4. cherkas.oe
                  cherkas.oe 26 February 2014 19: 40
                  -1
                  Quote: Papakiko
                  unleashed the slaughter.

                  They unleashed the massacre even earlier, and this was why they were glad. And now they think that no one remembers anything.
          2. Apollo
            25 February 2014 18: 51
            +2
            Quote: smersh70
            Head of the socio-political department of the Presidential Administration Ali Hasanov ---


            Vurgun, you know that I am very respectful to all visitors, including you. But, do not quote the words of a person who is disgracefully referring to his own people. Otherwise, explain the suicide of a Karabakh war veteran of a disabled person who later died. Who was guilty ?! That's right, the chairman of the confederation of trade unions of Azerbaijan. Who is this chairman (who incidentally did not bear any responsibility) to the person you mentioned, right A relative. What should have been done, rightly, condemned, but what Ali Hasanov did, rightly, he began to block. I
            I personally judge this or that person not according to and according to deeds.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 26 February 2014 00: 49
              +1
              Quote: Apollon
              not by words but by deeds.
              I cited the official position of a senior official, as they say the position of the presidential administration of Azerbaijan. And with whom he is a relative and what his relative is doing is no longer in our prerogative. By the way, it was his relative who paid the family of the deceased 100 thousand dollars. So they put in the place of the presumptuous official ....
        3. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 25 February 2014 12: 36
          0
          Quote: Basileus
          But nothing that the Armenians live there?

          Citizens! And why not figure out who in this conflict considers the UN aggressor, whose territories were seized by the opposing side? And only then start talking!
          1. Basileus
            Basileus 25 February 2014 13: 12
            +1
            Well, what's the difference? Russia, too, is an aggressor and an occupier during the 2008 war. Errors within the Soviet borders are not the fault of the Armenians or Azerbaijanis.
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 25 February 2014 14: 14
              +3
              Quote: Basileus
              Russia, too, is an aggressor and an occupier during the 2008 war

              Wow fellow Are you really, Radmir wrote with all my heart this is here)))) Yes, they’ll peck at you now bully
              1. Basileus
                Basileus 25 February 2014 16: 42
                0
                What's wrong with that? This is normal practice for states claiming the title of "great power". Yes, all this is somehow covered with pretexts and slogans, but it is hypocrisy to deny the fact that whoever has power uses it, despite all the cries of the opposing side.
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 25 February 2014 17: 53
                  +1
                  Quote: Basileus
                  This is normal practice for states claiming the title of "great power"

                  This is called in the modern world-occupation and aggression! The great powers, unfortunately, sometimes act in such ways. BUT this does not touch their actions. They should, on the contrary, be attractive.
                  Quote: Basileus
                  but to deny the fact that anyone who has power uses it,

                  when it was here about South Ossetia, I talked about it, but everyone denied))))
                  1. Basileus
                    Basileus 25 February 2014 19: 08
                    0
                    Occupation and aggression are terms for meads. Despite all the changes in the system of international relations, nothing has changed for large states - they continue to do what they want, without being distracted by the international buhurt. Because they either do not care, or they have a retinue of vassals who assent will run after them.
            2. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 25 February 2014 14: 17
              0
              Quote: Basileus
              Russia, too

              No need to juggle. Speak to the point and more facts. For example, who and who occupied the territory. Where did the Karabakh army gain so many people from and where did they get modern weapons.
              1. Basileus
                Basileus 25 February 2014 16: 38
                0
                Modern? Have you been interested in the situation for a long time?
                1. Ezhaak
                  Ezhaak 26 February 2014 12: 34
                  0
                  From the very moment that it all started! Unlike some.
          2. Papakiko
            Papakiko 25 February 2014 13: 59
            0
            Quote: Hedgehog
            who in this conflict considers the UN aggressor

            Not even funny, tears welling up.
            You still think about democracy and all the charms carried under this sign.
            Quote: smersh70
            Vniknitev conflict history

            Until the Stone Age or only to Ataturk?
            1. Ezhaak
              Ezhaak 25 February 2014 14: 19
              0
              Quote: Papakiko
              You are still about democracy and all the charms

              And it comes to that. Someday. I recommend that you personally speak with specific facts, not ideas.
              1. xetai9977
                xetai9977 25 February 2014 16: 52
                +1
                Eugene, for some of your compatriots there is no difference between good and evil, between the aggressor and the victim. They are fixated on the fact that Azerbaijan is an enemy. They themselves say that and believe in it. In a good way. Keep up the good work.
                1. Ezhaak
                  Ezhaak 25 February 2014 19: 08
                  +2
                  Quote: xetai9977
                  your compatriots there is no difference between good and evil

                  Hello Rauf. Among all nations and nationalities there are completely different people. Both good and bad, and smart, and stupid, and literate and illiterate. And we all, or you, or they, as a rule, measure others according to the worst examples. It is not without reason that they say that a black sheep spoils the whole flock. Happily! I rarely began to look here, but, as a rule, I get to such conversations. Even very unpleasant.
              2. Papakiko
                Papakiko 25 February 2014 16: 57
                +2
                Quote: Hedgehog
                And it comes to that. Someday.

                Is Azerbaijan going to spread democratic values ​​around the world?
                Mattress Laurels in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yugoslavia, etc. do not give sleep?
                Quote: Hedgehog
                I recommend it to you personally

                I recommended wine-brandy-meat under the common sun, but this, you, I’m killing and I don’t rest against any place.
                Crave blood and all the attendant beauties., Right?
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 25 February 2014 17: 57
                  +2
                  Quote: Papakiko
                  I recommended wine-cognac-meat under the common sun, but this doesn’t rest against you.

                  Thanks for that !!!!!
                  Quote: Papakiko
                  Crave blood and all the attendant beauties., Right?

                  and the rest is interesting, I came to occupy your house, and then they suggest that you live in peace and good neighborliness with me bully class .....
                2. Ezhaak
                  Ezhaak 25 February 2014 19: 19
                  0
                  Quote: Papakiko

                  Of course, I'm not as smart as you, dear, but if you please, do not pull out the words from the phrase, otherwise the whole meaning of what is said is lost. Speak essentially, not with unhealthy fantasies. So be so kind!
          3. xetai9977
            xetai9977 25 February 2014 16: 46
            +3
            Hi Eugene! And they would write something offensive about us. And no matter what ..
    4. smersh70
      smersh70 25 February 2014 12: 08
      +5
      Quote: Alex66
      It’s better to live in peace with your neighbors.

      but don’t we live in peace and in good neighborliness. Maybe we are at war with others or have territorial claims. Do not become a good uncle and peacemaker. You should understand the history of conflict resolution, and only then draw conclusions.
  6. 31231
    31231 25 February 2014 07: 32
    +5
    No, let it go. Their right.
  7. cobalt
    cobalt 25 February 2014 07: 37
    +7
    It is necessary to decide with Azerbaijan that they donate 1 fighter to us, it can be tested for the effectiveness of the battle with our fighters. The enemy must be known from the inside.
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 25 February 2014 07: 46
      +4
      Quote: cobalt
      It is necessary to decide with Azerbaijan that they donate 1 fighter to us, it can be tested for the effectiveness of the battle with our fighters. The enemy must be known from the inside.

      Yes, there still go with a pitchfork on the water ... There will be a contract, there will be something to discuss ... And then yes, it would be good to conduct joint exercises ...
  8. Clegg
    Clegg 25 February 2014 07: 40
    +3
    Yes good news

    By the way, they did not consider the option with Gripen?
    1. Nayhas
      Nayhas 25 February 2014 07: 49
      +4
      Quote: Clegg
      Yes good news

      By the way, they did not consider the option with Gripen?

      Typhoon as a strike aircraft is better than Grippen, the Armenians have practically no Air Force, so Typhoon will be just right.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 February 2014 07: 56
        +6
        Typhoon will be just right wassat our air defense workers also think so .... laughing
      2. Clegg
        Clegg 25 February 2014 08: 12
        +3
        Quote: Nayhas
        Typhoon as a strike aircraft is better than Grippen, the Armenians have practically no Air Force, so Typhoon will be just right.

        How important will aviation be in this conflict?
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 25 February 2014 09: 16
          +4
          Quote: Clegg
          Quote: Nayhas
          Typhoon as a strike aircraft is better than Grippen, the Armenians have practically no Air Force, so Typhoon will be just right.

          How important will aviation be in this conflict?

          In my opinion, the Armenians do not have combat aircraft, and attack helicopters are needed on the ground in Karabakh. True fighters may be needed in the future. At the expense of Typhoons and Azerbaijan, I thought when I read the material that the Germans refused to purchase 48 Typhoon fighters ordered. What is interesting is how Europe agreed to sell it because recently it was forbidden even to put its motors intended for sale in Azerbaijan on sau. By the way, guys from Azerbaijan, what do you think the name of your country means if you translate from Kazakh as Azerbaijani-by-jan, then now they are rich-soul (the first syllable does not skip and the Azerbaijani writes, as I understand the machine takes as an insult)
          1. Basileus
            Basileus 25 February 2014 11: 10
            +5
            Azerbaijani-by-jan, then about now- the rich -soul

            You’ll get to Zadornovschina.
            1. Semurg
              Semurg 25 February 2014 11: 46
              +3
              Quote: Basileus
              Azerbaijani-by-jan, then about now- the rich -soul

              You’ll get to Zadornovschina.

              It seems that from the Tatar bai-jan is translated as a rich soul, at the expense of the first syllable in Azerbaijan, doubt, and "rich soul" for sure. If not so I will ask a Tatar neighbor, but I’m hardly mistaken, the language of the Tatars is similar to Kazakh, it just sounds softer.
              1. Basileus
                Basileus 25 February 2014 11: 54
                +2
                So I'm talking about Zadornovshchina and I say - he also puts a lot into syllables))

                әzer - ready, buy - rich, җан - soul, yes.
                1. Semurg
                  Semurg 25 February 2014 12: 01
                  +2
                  Clearly the translation is correct, the method is not correct.
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                3. Apollo
                  25 February 2014 19: 08
                  +1
                  Quote: Basileus
                  әzer - ready, buy - rich, җан - soul, yes.


                  Do not invent or compose here on the forum. Azerbaijan is a country of lights and the city of Baku in translation is a city of winds.
                  1. Basileus
                    Basileus 25 February 2014 21: 38
                    0
                    You first read the correspondence, or something. The Kazakh asked me how the same sequence will be in Tatar, I answered, advising me not to get involved in Zadornovschina. Here and point him.
                    1. Apollo
                      25 February 2014 21: 57
                      0
                      Quote: Basileus
                      Here and point him.

                      Here, on the forum, I’m not telling anyone, sometimes I advise as follows below.
                      Quote: Basileus
                      Kazakh asked me how the same sequence will be in Tatar,

                      No one has the right to persuade or translate the name of my state. Above, I wrote about the translation.
                      Quote: Basileus
                      You first read the correspondence

                      Before writing, I dare to assure you that I read up and down.
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          2. smersh70
            smersh70 25 February 2014 14: 19
            +3
            Quote: Semurg
            and ground attack aircraft in Karabakh also need attack helicopters.

            Well, how do you like their number wink about 60 pieces at take-off
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        3. Nayhas
          Nayhas 25 February 2014 10: 56
          +4
          Quote: Clegg
          How important will aviation be in this conflict?

          If the Azerbaijanis have Typhoons with the whole range of weapons, then the Armenians will be oh, if not easy. Here, of course, it is important how many there will be. 20 vehicles are capable of carrying out ground defense systems. Detectors, both onboard and outboard, are capable of detecting targets such as artillery batteries, tanks ...
          Those. Typhoons are capable of conducting reconnaissance of targets and their destruction themselves, and not with freely falling bombs and NURSs, but with high-precision weapons.
    2. Yeraz
      Yeraz 25 February 2014 08: 56
      +5
      Quote: Clegg
      By the way, they did not consider the option with Gripen?

      I'm generally shocked that the Typhoon sold. It's not a consideration, many do not want to sell.
      1. Clegg
        Clegg 25 February 2014 09: 14
        +4
        Quote: Yeraz
        I'm generally shocked that the Typhoon sold.

        The British are English, they have only their own interests. Unlike the French and Amers, who take into account the interests of their diasporas.
      2. xetai9977
        xetai9977 25 February 2014 10: 36
        +3
        I don’t believe infe. The Englishmen have already refused to sell us modern weapons .. Most likely a duck.
        1. Hitrovan07
          Hitrovan07 25 February 2014 11: 27
          +2
          I can be mistaken, but hasn't Iran recently demanded the return of money for undelivered equipment from England?
          If so, conclusions can be drawn (of course, Russia also refused to Iran - but it returned the money).
        2. tulpar
          tulpar 25 February 2014 11: 55
          +3
          it seems that negotiations are underway as briefly mentioned in FT -

          http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/7ebf7d4a-9944-11e3-b3a2-00144feab7de.html#axzz2uG
          jQFabK
        3. Alibekulu
          Alibekulu 25 February 2014 13: 34
          +1
          Quote: xetai9977
          I don’t believe infe. The Englishmen have already refused to sell us modern weapons .. Most likely a duck.
          Of course "duck".
          Now between Armenia and Baku there is an information war. And Azeri in this way makes fun of Naira yes
          "Here we are tanks, we are buying planes .. on your head .."
          1. smersh70
            smersh70 25 February 2014 14: 25
            +2
            Quote: Alibekulu
            Now between Armenia and Baku there is an information war. And Azeri in this way makes fun of Naira

            So Minister Ohanyan has Azerbaijani tanks and nightmares at night. wassat I woke up and went to check military units in the morning))))
    3. smersh70
      smersh70 25 February 2014 12: 14
      +4
      Quote: Clegg
      and the good news, by the way, did they not consider the Gripen option?

      Quote: Clegg
      Yes good news

      a couple of days ago it was Hasharat who proposed to buy Typhoons or the Flu. Likely in the government they read our site and immediately rushed to negotiate bully
      1. Apollo
        25 February 2014 19: 11
        +1
        Quote: smersh70
        Likely in the government read our site

        You can be sure the brains of "our" so-called government are busy with others, how to grab more and plunder what has not yet been plundered.
  9. pan grizian
    pan grizian 25 February 2014 07: 40
    +4
    If ... Azerbaijan buys these fighters, our country will be the first in the post-Soviet space, possessing the most powerful and advanced military aircraft. And even more ...


    Pompous and pretentious nonsense of kishlach mass media !!! I watched footage of Azerbaijani military pilots on YouTube. Some of them are pot-bellied and lazy. Such figures are more appropriate behind the persimmon counter, rather than in the cockpits of aircraft. I suspect that the Azerbaijani "kozhedubs" will not achieve domination in the sky either on the "Typhoons", or on "flashes", or on any other pepelats.
    Modern history does not know examples of Muslim aces pilots.
    1. Magellan
      Magellan 25 February 2014 10: 35
      +8
      Quote: Pan Gritsian
      Modern history does not know examples of Muslim aces pilots.

      You are just an ignoramus

      Amet Khan Sultan (Lax. Ahmad-Khan Sultan, Crimean Tatar. Amet-han Sultan; October 25, 1920 - February 1, 1971) - military pilot, lieutenant colonel (1957), honored test pilot of the USSR (1961), twice Hero of the Soviet Union (1943, 1945). One of the best Soviet aces of the Great Patriotic War


      In total, during the war, Amet-Khan Sultan flew 603 sorties (70 of them to attack the enemy’s manpower and equipment), conducted 150 air battles, in which shot down personally 30 and as part of a group of 19 enemy aircraft.

      And here is another example.

      Jalil Zandy (Persian جلیل زندی; born May 2, 1951 in Gharsar; died April 1, 2001 in Tehran) - Iranian ace pilot, considered the most successful fighter pilot of the Iran-Iraq war.

      Great fame came to him as the pilot of the F-14 Tomcat. During the Iran-Iraq war, he won 11 air victories - 8 confirmed and 3 probable. He shot down four MiG-23s, two Su-22s, two MiG-21s and three Mirage F1s. This makes him the most successful F-14 Tomcat pilot in the world.
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 25 February 2014 12: 20
      +3
      Quote: Pan Gritsian
      the main delirium of the kishlak media !!! I watched on YouTube footage with Azerbaijani military pilots

      probably before watching you had a strong fever or binge, after which Vasilyeva seems to me simply Madonna laughing wassat
      Quote: Pan Gritsian
      Such figures are more appropriate behind the persimmon counter, rather than in the cockpit

      have you ever flown by yourself, maybe right now you can put all these videos, or put me smile
      Quote: Pan Gritsian
      Modern history does not know examples of Muslim aces pilots.

      your knowledge at the level - one grandmother said. Maybe you can believe it, but maybe not, the number of pilots exceeds the number of planes we have and they fly well and they have a flying time of about 200 hours a year. That’s what you say ...
    3. Zymran
      Zymran 25 February 2014 12: 24
      +5
      Quote: Pan Gritsian
      Modern history does not know examples of Muslim aces pilots.




      Talgat Yakubekovich Begeldinov was born on August 5 on 1922 in the village of Maybalik, Akmola region, in the Kazakh SSR in a peasant family. By nationality - Kazakh.

      In 1940, he entered the Balashov Military Aviation Pilot School, then transferred to the Chkalov Military Aviation School (Orenburg city), which he graduated in 1942.

      On the fronts of World War II since January 1943. In the same year he joined the CPSU (b) / CPSU. He fought on an IL-2 aircraft. He flew in the squadron of Hero of the Soviet Union S.P. Poshivalnikov. Soon he became his deputy.

      On October 26 of the 1944 of the year, guard Lieutenant Begeldinov Talgat Yakubekovich for the courage and combat skill shown during the liberation of the cities of Znamenka [specify], Kirovograd, for the personally shot down enemy aircraft in 4 air battles, was awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union.

      In the fall of the 1944 year of guard, Captain Begeldinov is a squadron commander of the 144 Guards Assault Aviation Regiment (9 Guards Assault Aviation Division, 1 Guards Assault Aviation Corps, 2 I Air Force, 1).

      Participant of the Victory Parade 24 June 1945 year.

      The second Gold Star medal of the guard, Captain Begeldinov Talgat Yakubovich was awarded 27 June 1945 year for the skillful leadership of the squadron and combat feats during the storming of the cluster of troops and equipment of the enemy in the battles for the cities of Krakow, Oppeln (now Opole), Katowice, Breslau (nowadays) Berlin.

      During the two years of the war, T. Ya. Begeldinov made 305 sorties on the ground attack forces of the enemy, shot down 7 planes in air battles. Itself was shot down.
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 25 February 2014 16: 58
        +3
        Hello, hush! I’ll add with your permission. Begeldinov is one of the first who shot down Messer on the IL-2 in an air battle (he shot down 7 in total in air battles). Powerful gun. weapons and armor IL-2 had its advantages, which Begeldinov could use. The command trusted him so much that they let it go on solo sorties. He was shot down, but successfully escaped from enemy territory.
        You can also add the modern pilot Tokhtar Aubakirov (Hero of the USSR). The first MiG-29 landed on an aircraft carrier. hi
      2. Clegg
        Clegg 25 February 2014 17: 10
        +3
        Quote: Zymran
        Zymran Today, 12:24 ↑
        Quote: Pan Gritsian
        Modern history does not know examples of Muslim aces pilots.



        Talgat Yakubekovich Begeldinov was born on August 5 on 1922 in the village of Maybalik, Akmola region, in the Kazakh SSR in a peasant family. By nationality - Kazakh.


        For some reason we are not considered Muslims.
        I remember some Malay flew into space and all Islamic countries such as the first Muslim cosmonaut, as if Aubakirov and Musabaev did not count laughing
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 25 February 2014 18: 02
          +4
          Quote: Clegg
          countries like the first Muslim cosmonaut, as if Aubakirov and Musabaev didn’t count

          The first was Manarov Musa smile
          1. Clegg
            Clegg 25 February 2014 18: 16
            0
            Quote: smersh70
            The first was Manarov Musa

            did not know))
            1. smersh70
              smersh70 25 February 2014 18: 31
              0
              Quote: Clegg
              did not know))

              This story was told somehow in the interior by Heydar Aliyev. It occurred to him why these representatives of the Muslim republics do not fly into space. For a long time he was looking for Azeri pilots, they found a whole squadron in the Pacific Fleet, consisting of only fellow countrymen. They all went there, but they didn’t go through the medical board and other obstacles. Then he had to choose Manarov. He was born in Baku, his family lived there. from Azerbaijan. Now he seems to be a deputy of the State Duma.
    4. smersh70
      smersh70 25 February 2014 12: 29
      +2
      Quote: Pan Gritsian
      Some are pot-bellied and lazy. T

      well see or put on glasses)))
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 25 February 2014 12: 33
        +3
        so be careful smile Su-25 squadron you may dream
    5. alone
      alone 25 February 2014 20: 11
      +1
      Yes of course! only the Gritians can fly.
  10. Enjoy
    Enjoy 25 February 2014 07: 40
    +4
    Well, if anything, our air defense will be trained on bourgeois aircraft)
  11. Strashila
    Strashila 25 February 2014 07: 41
    +2
    Let them buy ... let somersault with them.
  12. Nayhas
    Nayhas 25 February 2014 07: 51
    +7
    Design once again delivers ... Well, is it really difficult to score in the search engine Eurofighter Typhoon and get the right picture? Or is it that F-16, that Typhoon is the same?
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    2. Mergen
      Mergen 25 February 2014 08: 37
      +4
      Here they are Typhoons, and in the picture really F16
    3. smersh70
      smersh70 25 February 2014 12: 24
      +2
      Quote: Nayhas
      Design once again delivers ... Well, is it really difficult to score in the search engine Eurofighter Typhoon


  13. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 25 February 2014 07: 53
    -4
    People! Ale! Question! Do they know from which end to get into the cabin of a purchased pepelats? Or how to a donkey, in the tail area? wassat
    1. Apollo
      25 February 2014 19: 16
      +4
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      People! Ale! Question! Do they know from what end to climb into the cabin of a purchased pepelats?

      So you yourself and ask, only not from visitors but from those whom you name they.
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Or how about a donkey in the tail area?

      Do you have experience ?! laughing
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 26 February 2014 01: 01
        +2
        Quote: Apollon
        Do you have experience ?!
        Looking for like-minded people bully
  14. Yeraz
    Yeraz 25 February 2014 07: 54
    +5
    How much bile is pouring. If they bought Russian airplanes, they would have bought everything well done, they know what to choose. So if you don’t sell, and Azerbaijan first of all wanted to buy Russian airplanes, then it’s nefig to arrange, so to speak, at least at least someone agreed , sell something, and when Russia supports it, the lobby lends itself to support, if it’s true then it’s very happy.
    Glory to the Air Force of Azerbaijan.
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    4. Mergen
      Mergen 25 February 2014 08: 44
      0
      By the way, China has not bad fighters manufactured by Israeli technology Lavi J-10, it is better to buy them than Typhoons, but this is purely my opinion.
      1. Phase
        Phase 25 February 2014 12: 01
        +4
        Quote: Mergen
        By the way, China has not bad fighters manufactured by Israeli technology Lavi J-10

        The Chinese J-10 is not at all manufactured using Israeli technology and has nothing to do with Lavi. This is an entirely Russian product designed by the Mikoyan Design Bureau (index "Product 4.12" or LMFI - light multifunctional fighter). Our Ministry of Defense rejected this project and pushed it to the Chinese comrades.
        China really started designing with Lavi. But he could not cope and as a result bought a ready-made project from Mikoyanovtsy.
      2. Nayhas
        Nayhas 25 February 2014 20: 06
        0
        Quote: Mergen
        By the way, China has not bad fighters manufactured by Israeli technology Lavi J-10, it is better to buy them than Typhoons, but this is purely my opinion.

        the nomenclature of weapons is dubious, not to compare with Typhoon ...
  15. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 25 February 2014 08: 07
    +2
    Wow, how are you! The thing is that your beloved Azerbaijan is not just arming itself. It’s buying the equipment of our potential. It says a lot. There will be a skirmish with Armenia again. But then someone will be too tough on Russia.
    1. Mergen
      Mergen 25 February 2014 08: 40
      +3
      Well, actually Russia refused to sell its fighters to Azerbaijan.
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    3. Yeraz
      Yeraz 25 February 2014 08: 57
      +1
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      Buys the technology of our potential

      First, they wanted Russian planes, but Moscow refused.
      And even if he buys non-Russian, then all countries that buy non-Russian are the enemies of Russia. Yes, the nonsense is growing every day ...
      1. Hitrovan07
        Hitrovan07 25 February 2014 11: 29
        -1
        Of course nonsense.
        Here are just a "zoo" from the technology of European countries (and of course from Russia), somehow not very Libya and Iraq.
        Better to produce your own.
    4. smersh70
      smersh70 25 February 2014 12: 25
      +1
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      But then already from Russia some will slam the teeth.

      cheto in Ukraine is not visible smile
      1. Phase
        Phase 25 February 2014 12: 50
        +2
        Quote: smersh70
        cheto in Ukraine is not visible

        But Ukraine has not yet threatened Russian interests. As before, no one except us supplies them with energy. And still, apart from us, no one is buying their engineering products. The fact that they rally there may be in our hands. Did you notice that Tymoshenko was released? And Julia is a cynical person and close to Gazprom. So you are not particularly gloating there, it is only just beginning. ;)
        1. smersh70
          smersh70 25 February 2014 13: 19
          +2
          Quote: Phase
          As before, no one except us supplies them with energy.

          Well, besides us smile We also supply them with energy. Remember Kuchmui of his predecessor. When Yeltsin pressed them in the 90s, it was we who saved them from the cold. For which the President of Ukraine spoke on television and expressed great gratitude.
  16. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 25 February 2014 08: 55
    +2
    So there was a reason.
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 25 February 2014 09: 05
      0
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      So there was a reason.

      Well, yes. Tanks and other systems sold that they were quick to put the Armenians back in place when they started bending towards Europe. And right now, with the thought of no further arming Azerbaijan. But this is not Azerbaijan’s problem, they’ll buy money and Russia will continue to arm Armenia, to give non-repayable loans and subsidize others is the credo of the Russian authorities, and when with real money, but why should rich Russia have money)))
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 February 2014 10: 07
        +2
        .And let Russia continue to arm Armenia for free, to give bad loans and subsidize others is the credo of the Russian authorities, and when with real money, but why should rich Russia have money))) wassat why arm? there is enough of our base if that ...
        1. xetai9977
          xetai9977 25 February 2014 10: 48
          +4
          In general, one gets the impression of a dialogue with a deaf person. How many times it has been said here that the Russian base has no right and will not participate in the war for Karabakh, because Karabakh is the territory of Azerbaijan. And every time, like a hackneyed record, you repeat, they say, "get from Russia." With such a disregarding policy towards other peoples and countries, you have no friends anywhere.
          1. Phase
            Phase 25 February 2014 12: 06
            +3
            Quote: xetai9977
            .How many times has it been said that the Russian base has no right, and will not participate in the war for Karabakh, because Karabakh is the territory of Azerbaijan

            The base will not participate only until the first shell explodes on its territory. And he MAY explode, you understand ...;)
            Remember Tskhinval. It was also the territory of Grezia. But our military has the right to defend itself. So it’s better not to try ... smile
            1. Semurg
              Semurg 25 February 2014 12: 20
              +2
              Quote: Phase
              Quote: xetai9977
              .How many times has it been said that the Russian base has no right, and will not participate in the war for Karabakh, because Karabakh is the territory of Azerbaijan

              The base will not participate only until the first shell explodes on its territory. And he MAY explode, you understand ...;)
              Remember Tskhinval. It was also the territory of Grezia. But our military has the right to defend itself. So it’s better not to try ... smile

              Somewhere the same way I think the Armenians will put art systems and air defense at the border, but they will shoot on their territory, and if Azerbaijan answers they will attack the CSTO member and cause Russia to get into a showdown. Perhaps this is why your president wants to solve everything by the world so far, but this has little chance.
              1. Phase
                Phase 25 February 2014 12: 30
                +5
                Quote: Semurg
                Perhaps this is why your president wants to solve everything by the world, but there’s little chance of it

                To be honest, I also want everything to be decided peacefully. Although I’m not the president. And the chances of this, as it seems to me, are not so small.
                At the moment, everything suits Armenia, it does not need to fight. Azerbaijan longs for revenge, yes. But if he knows that the consequences for him will be negative, he won’t start a war.
                I am not against Azerbaijan, understand. I understand the feelings of Azerbaijanis, because they have cut off part of the territory. But it is also true that Armenians live on this territory and if you give it to Azerbaijan, then massacre and ethnic cleansing are inevitable. Therefore, a solution must be sought jointly and this solution cannot lie in the plane of capture of Karabakh by Azerbaijan. And one more thing: this solution will not be found soon. The memory of that war is too lively now, too many grievances, emotions, desire to take revenge. Everyone should be cool, that’s what I think.
                A thin peace is better than a good quarrel.
                1. smersh70
                  smersh70 25 February 2014 13: 17
                  +2
                  Quote: Phase
                  Armenians live in the territory and if you give it to Azerbaijan, then massacre and ethnic cleansing are inevitable.

                  About 20 national minorities and 30000 Armenians in the rest of Azerbaijan live in our country. And no one kills or kills them. They even issue ID cards with Armenian surnames. So, not everything is the way you say
      2. propolsky
        propolsky 25 February 2014 10: 10
        +2
        War and politics are dirty things and you also suffered, judging by the "callsign". But fighting again is a bad idea, especially with the locals in Karabakh. I know, saw and heard a lot of bestial episodes of that war on both sides. Enough, especially when the call begins, many will not so zealously shout about their readiness to fight to the last drop of blood.
  17. Shatt
    Shatt 25 February 2014 10: 07
    +1
    I don’t understand if the NATO planes take, why not the French rafale? They seem better than this European typhoon, a newer generation. Or is rafale substantially more expensive?
    1. Hairy Siberian
      Hairy Siberian 25 February 2014 20: 53
      +4
      Quote: Shatt
      Or is rafale substantially more expensive?

      Judging by the article, well, VERY significantly more expensive! : smile:
      Quote from the article:
      Only one Saudi Arabia exported 72 fighters in the amount of $ 2 billion.

      It turns out each for 26.6 million dollars for Typhoon! laughing Rafale costs between 90-110 million.
      Azerbaijanis probably heard and flattered.
      But seriously, Eurofighter is too complex and unfamiliar aircraft for Azerbaijan.
  18. Sars
    Sars 25 February 2014 10: 17
    +4
    But do not you sway, gentlemen, Azerbaijanis on the B-52?
    1. Phase
      Phase 25 February 2014 12: 59
      +2
      Quote: SarS
      But do not you sway, gentlemen, Azerbaijanis on the B-52?

      good It's five!
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 25 February 2014 13: 15
      +3
      Quote: SarS
      But do not you sway, gentlemen, Azerbaijanis on the B-52?

      waved and would even surpass bully money in bulk, an airdrome, too, not to mention pilots. The truth of the territory is not enough for his flights. So you can continue to plague and help your poor outpost for free. Well, this is your problem))))
  19. Wiruz
    Wiruz 25 February 2014 10: 57
    +3
    But I don’t understand something, is it really that Russia and Azerbaijan have such a difficult relationship. The purchase of these Eurofighter is more like not the re-equipment of the Azerbaijani Air Force, but rather the British political move, they say, even the countries of the former USSR refuse to fly on MiGs and Sushki. In short, if this transaction takes place, then Scotland will need to be equipped with Russian fighters after gaining sovereignty. Well it is, preferably ...
    1. Yeraz
      Yeraz 25 February 2014 11: 24
      +2
      Quote: Wiruz
      , here even the countries of the former USSR refuse to fly on MiGs and Sushki

      This Russia refused to sell SU and Mig, and not Azerbaijan refused to buy them.
  20. Basileus
    Basileus 25 February 2014 11: 05
    +2
    Clicked a plus ... In vain. After reading the last paragraph - regretted.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 25 February 2014 11: 12
      +1
      Same stuff...
      1. supertiger21
        supertiger21 25 February 2014 17: 18
        +1
        And I, on the contrary, after these words:

        Azerbaijan will purchase these fighters, our country will be the first in the post-Soviet space, possessing the most powerful and advanced military aircraft. And it will further strengthen its military superiority over Armenia.


        I put a minus.
  21. Zymran
    Zymran 25 February 2014 11: 10
    0
    Well done if true. The latest Western technology, after all. I hope that our people will eventually switch to western planes and tanks.
    1. Semurg
      Semurg 25 February 2014 11: 34
      +5
      our tanks themselves need a good upgrade at our factory (the Israeli version is not bad), but the Air Force is waiting for a purchase - military-technical transport is being updated, the combat aircraft is open, the art systems are modernized, armored personnel carriers are being purchased in Russia using Ukrainian BTR-4 . In general, somewhere and the right policy with the militants and neighbors from the south is enough weapons available and the Air Force is enough. If China and Russia have to butt out, our army is obviously weaker and only guerrilla warfare will help if our government is not afraid and will distribute arsenals to the people under threat (and the authorities are afraid of it like fire).
      1. Zymran
        Zymran 25 February 2014 11: 38
        +1
        Well, I'm talking with time. Thanks to the wise policy of the great integrator, the country obviously has no money for any tanks and aircraft. Our available tank park is completely outdated antiques like the T-62 or not the most successful T-72 tank, which is also out of date. Have you seen what "results" the T-72 showed in the tank biathlon?
        1. Semurg
          Semurg 25 February 2014 11: 55
          +3
          A wise policy is not to enter into conflict and not to give up national interests while the National Academy of Sciences maintains a balance (more or less). For tanks, Ukraine successfully modernized a tank like Bulat’s name. T-72 needs to be shot and tested specifically for each crew, then shooting and driving will be better, and modernization implies improved shooting and protection.
          1. Basileus
            Basileus 25 February 2014 11: 59
            +1
            Damask steel is the T-64. Modernization kits T-72 makes half the world, a huge choice.
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        3. Basileus
          Basileus 25 February 2014 11: 57
          +1
          And what results did unprepared crews show on old tanks?
          1. Zymran
            Zymran 25 February 2014 12: 04
            +3
            Quote: Basileus
            And what results did unprepared crews show on old tanks?


            Why do you think the crews are unprepared? Obviously, the best crews were sent to the show.

            Quote: Semurg
            . T-72 needs to be shot and tested specifically for each crew, then shooting and driving will be better, and modernization implies improved shooting and protection.


            Conceptually, the T-72 cannot be changed. This is an extremely explosive tank. Moreover, the detonation of ammunition, for example, in the "Desert Storm" in the T-72 occurred much more often than in the old T-55.
            1. Basileus
              Basileus 25 February 2014 13: 09
              +2
              Is it on TV they said the best? In the BBO sent the first ones, for example.

              Measures are being taken, even on older machines. Syrians, for example, do not carry full BC.
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  22. Hitrovan07
    Hitrovan07 25 February 2014 11: 37
    +1
    The article is an informational duck of the West. Apparently "temporary success in Ukraine" turned some heads in the West and "off we go." There are literate people everywhere - they are calculating options (the same spare parts in the event of an economic and military blockade).
  23. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 25 February 2014 12: 30
    +6
    The news, of course, is interesting, but most likely another "duck" from the same opera that Azerbaijan buys destroyers and submarines from South Korea for the Caspian Sea. Why?
    Firstly, Azerbaijan. like any other post-Soviet country, it is focused primarily on Soviet-style armaments, for which there is infrastructure and trained flight and technical personnel, and including much more repairable than western aircraft.
    Moreover, the news has already slipped several times before that Azerbaijan will purchase JF-17 Thunder fighter jets from Pakistan and China:
    As transfers AZE.az, in the company “Pakistan Aeronautical Complex - PAC”, participating in the air show “Dubai Airshow - 2011”, APA informed that negotiations were held with Azerbaijan, however they are not at the stage of purchase and sale.
    Currently, the company is fulfilling the order of the Pakistan Air Force, while exports to Azerbaijan can be realized within a few years. The parties have already decided on the preliminary volume of supplies.
    Demonstrations of JF-17 Thunder aircraft took place as part of the air show. The flights were also observed by members of the Azerbaijani delegation.
    In comparison with the MiG-29 aircraft, the JF-17 Thunder has a number of similar and even superior indicators. Aircraft have increased maneuvering. By including these aircraft in their inventory, the Azerbaijani Air Force will increase its combat effectiveness.
    Company officials said relations between Pakistan and Azerbaijan are at a high level. Official Pakistan supports the position of Baku and the territorial integrity of the country. If these relations are taken into account, then there will be no problems with the purchase of aircraft.
    According to company officials, next year, within the framework of cooperation between Pakistan and China, the development of the Block-2 version will begin. This version of the JF-17 Thunder will be equipped with new electronic and weapons systems.
    Note that the length of the aircraft is 14,97 meters, the maximum weight of the aircraft is 12474 kg. The maximum speed of the aircraft is 1909 km / h, the combat radius is 1352 km.
    The aircraft is equipped with a Tipe 23-2 double-barreled gun, caliber 23 mm, 4 guided air-to-air missiles, 1 guided air-to-ground missiles, 1 non-guided missiles, 4 MK-type bombs; 82, 1-type MK.84 or GBU-10 / GBU-12, Durandel, Mk.20 Rockeye.
    Namik Huseynov

    http://oko-planet.su/politik/politikarm/89294-azerbaydzhan-nameren-zakupit-boevy

    e-samolety-sovmestnogo-proizvodstva-pakistana-i-kitaya.html

    However, it is already the third year, and not one "Tander" in the Air Force of Azerbaijan has not appeared.

    Sino-Pakistani fighter JF-17 Thunder
    Secondly, Azerbaijan now has 26 MiG-29 (2-UB) and 10 MiG-25 (6-P, 4-RB), which are enough for the eyes against one Armenian MiG-25, which has been talked about for a long time already, but for 15 Armenian Su-25 enough for their eyes.

  24. smersh70
    smersh70 25 February 2014 12: 41
    0

    The first representative of Azerbaijan’s jet aircraft was Vagif Kurbanov. It was in 92, when Shaposhnikov vowed in front of the cameras to catch him and return the Su-25 plane. The truth here is in Azerbaijani. The program tells how he studied in Borisoglebsky air force, how the plane hijacked, about his heroic path. I did 4-5 sorties a day.
  25. smersh70
    smersh70 25 February 2014 12: 48
    +1
    Pan Gritian - see ---pilots from the 5th and 6th row of the Sadovy and Cherkizon market bully
  26. Don
    Don 25 February 2014 14: 22
    +4
    If the deal is concluded and Azerbaijan purchases these fighters, our country will be the first in the post-Soviet space to possess the most powerful and advanced military aircraft.

    Something I did not understand. I understand the author, he really wants Azerbaijan to get modern fighters, but I don’t understand why he got that the Typhoons are the best in the post-Soviet space and that he has no equal?
  27. Leshka
    Leshka 25 February 2014 15: 31
    +2
    if they buy typhoons then this is a serious argument in a dispute with Armenia
  28. supertiger21
    supertiger21 25 February 2014 15: 40
    +2
    Azerbaijan may become the first post-Soviet country to buy western fighters.
  29. supertiger21
    supertiger21 25 February 2014 16: 36
    0
    The author has some problems with visual identification. It's about Typhoon, but for some reason the photo shows an F-16 pair.
    1. alone
      alone 25 February 2014 20: 25
      +3
      laughing The author did it all in my buzz. In the British newspaper, in the original article, the word Azerbaijan was written only in one place at the very end, as a country that is interested in buying this plane and that’s all. And he wrote the article here and drew plans, and even managed specify specifically against whom they are intended))) In a word, this is just newspaper-level talk.
      1. supertiger21
        supertiger21 25 February 2014 20: 32
        +1
        drinks As the saying goes "who pays, he calls the tune" laughing
  30. marshes
    marshes 25 February 2014 20: 33
    0
    You can stir up interesting barter smile we are you Mig-27, from stocks, you are South African armored vehicles, you can Turkish Cobras.
    Just need to say that the MiG-27 will go as interceptor aircraft.
    1. alone
      alone 25 February 2014 20: 41
      +3
      Swamps, but does the probable adversary have something to intercept? Just an instant-25 is enough to intercept what might try to break into the interior of the country. wink Another option is possible. You buy new planes from Russia for our money and transfer them to us laughing
      1. marshes
        marshes 25 February 2014 20: 59
        0
        Quote: lonely
        Another option is possible. You buy new planes from Russia for our money and transfer them to us

        It doesn’t work out, they don’t sell much to us either, are they afraid? ... Or there aren’t any opportunities, this is politics. wait that we will be procured in China.
        Here, my fellow countrymen are all worried about airplanes, I am afraid of many planes that there are not enough trained pilots.
        1. alone
          alone 25 February 2014 22: 12
          +2
          Quote: marshes
          Here, my fellow countrymen are all worried about airplanes, I am afraid of many planes that there are not enough trained pilots.

          What is the problem? There is an Air Force academy in Azerbaijan. Sign a contract and send the guys to study. And practice in Turkey on F-16s is guaranteed.
          1. marshes
            marshes 25 February 2014 22: 25
            +1
            Quote: lonely
            What is the problem? There is an Air Force academy in Azerbaijan. Sign a contract and send the guys to study. And practice in Turkey on F-16s is guaranteed

            Yes, it’s not a matter of where there is no where to train, there are schools, and in Turkey, children study in Russia and other places, but where healthy and educated students go to civilian universities, or according to the Bolashak program abroad, everyone wants to sit in bread positions and in the school, mostly children of former military personnel, himself one of them.
            Maybe in ten years it will change, when the youth will become even more.
    2. smersh70
      smersh70 26 February 2014 01: 12
      +1
      Quote: marshes
      MiG-27s will go as interceptor aircraft.
      give it in a variant of an attack aircraft. with aiming equipment and a modified nose shape of an airplane))))) I agree then)) by the way, remember. as in 96 our fighters intercepted your cargo IL-76 in Yugoslavia with MiG-21 on board. Then the noise rose , they almost left these MiGs with us (6 pieces) but then changed their minds and released them. bully
  31. Smiles to you
    Smiles to you 25 February 2014 22: 51
    0
    Let them buy, It will not help them much! Against whom is arms buildup going? Armenia? We won’t leave the Armenians! And proff. preparation azerb. pilots, and on the russ. Aviation was not very, what to say about the rest ...
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 26 February 2014 01: 16
      +2
      Quote: Smiles at you
      And proff. preparation azerb. pilots, and on the russ. aviation was not very
      they all died or retired long ago, dear how much time has passed laughing Would you still remember 41 years wassat
  32. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 26 February 2014 09: 51
    +1
    To all those present on the site, especially on this page. I apologize for the inadequacy of my behavior. In the light of recent days, I have not completely managed to cope with brain convolutions poisoned, unfortunately, not by Narzan. fool I promise, this will not happen again. With respect to all hi
    1. smersh70
      smersh70 26 February 2014 11: 01
      +3
      Quote: dmitrij.blyuz
      I apologize for the inadequacy of my behavior

      Accepted! We will continue to be friends! drinks need to tie or use less)))
  33. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 26 February 2014 13: 28
    +2
    Mustache! recourse There are grievances in life. hi
  34. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 26 February 2014 16: 10
    -3
    Personally, I delivered this news +, because I am glad that neither Su-30, 35, nor Migi were sold to Azerbaijan. Finally, our leadership understands that it’s just a neighbor and one that can act on the side of the enemy of Russia depending on of how he will benefit. And let him buy the well-worn Eurofighter.
    1. supertiger21
      supertiger21 26 February 2014 17: 32
      +3
      Quote: cherkas.oe
      he buys a well-worn Eurofighter.


      Why well-worn? Eurofayters so far no one was going to write off. They go for export immediately from the factory.
      1. smersh70
        smersh70 27 February 2014 00: 06
        0
        Quote: supertiger21
        Why well-worn?
        do not pay attention smile he is an ardent admirer of our neighbors, unless of course he himself is our neighbor bully