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Zbigniew Brzezinski: Russia needs to offer a “Finnish option” for Ukraine ("The Financial Times", UK)

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Ukraine is in chaos, and the threat of Russian intervention is growing. Under these conditions, the responsibility of the West for achieving a constructive result becomes self-evident.


Russia may plunge Ukraine into a brutal, destructive and dangerous civil war for the international community. She is able to provoke the secession of the Crimea and some industrial areas in the east of the country. But this will create a guarantee that the majority of Ukrainians will turn into Russia's eternal enemies, regardless of the first results of the civil war incited by Moscow.

In turn, this will expose the nostalgic dream of Russian President Vladimir Putin to create a "Eurasian Union", showing that this initiative, promoted by him personally, is built on intimidation and coercion. And this is not the most pleasant prospect for the former Soviet republics that have become sovereign.

But the West can play a constructive role in deterring violence. This will require concerted action by the US and the EU. The United States can and should clearly convey to Putin the idea that they are ready to use their influence and make sure that a truly independent and territorially integral Ukraine pursues a policy towards Russia that is similar to the one that Finland has so effectively implemented. This would mean neighborly relations of mutual respect, extensive economic relations with Russia and the EU and non-alignment with any military alliances that Moscow considers directed against it. At the same time, Russia's ties with Europe should be expanded. In short, the Finnish model can be an ideal example for Ukraine, the EU and Russia.

But in order to convince the Kremlin, the US needs to privately explain to Moscow that attempts to destabilize the emerging democracy in Kiev and / or secession of parts of Ukraine, not to mention Russia's secret or open participation in its neighbor’s internal conflicts, will force Washington to use its international influence, and this will cause such steps, which will be extremely costly for Moscow economically.

The measures here can be very diverse, from individual to interstate financial sanctions; a revision of Russia's status in the World Trade Organization, in the World Bank, as well as its role in the G8. It is obvious that the EU in such efforts should become a solid partner, since it has significant volumes of trade with Russia.

But even more pressing and important for the EU is the need to form a package of urgent and significant financial assistance to Ukraine. Otherwise, this country will plunge into destructive financial chaos. Germany, as well as Britain, should take the lead in Europe. The role of the latter as a refuge for the Russian and Ukrainian financial oligarchs gives London special leverage. But every EU country must make certain sacrifices in an attempt to prevent a potentially catastrophic economic collapse in Ukraine.

Obviously, the US and the EU, with the help of Russia, must continue to exert pressure on the democratic forces prevailing in Kiev so that they are not engaged in revenge and punishment, but in national unification and political restraint. It is possible to make it, and the leaders who appeared on the Maidan are moderate.

Therefore, regardless of how things go in the near future, I still believe that sooner or later Ukraine will truly become part of a democratic Europe. Sooner or later, Russia will follow it if it does not self-isolate and turn into a stagnant imperialist relic.

The author of the article worked as national security adviser to US President Jimmy Carter. He wrote the book Strategic Vision: America and the Crisis of Global Power ("Strategic view: America and the crisis of global power").
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  1. Narrator.tales
    Narrator.tales 25 February 2014 06: 01
    +21
    Can drag in a civil war? provoke the separation of our Crimea? in my opinion, everything started without us already, and Putin showed the whole world that he hadn’t done a bit (unless he tried to save with money) and Ukraine itself was in the ass. And most importantly - will the EU help Ukraine with money? HA, they can’t help themselves (Greece).
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 25 February 2014 07: 02
      +16
      Quote: Narrator.tales
      And most importantly - will the EU help Ukraine with money?

      Of course, they will help, they will lend on "good" conditions. And the IMF will also help, although the IMF itself borrows money from other countries at interest, then issuing loans at higher interest rates -Ukraine now. With a bunch of requirements and God knows what else.
      From the article ...
      Sooner or later, Russia will follow it if it does not self-isolate and turn into a stagnant imperialist relic.
      Zbigniew, but you wouldn’t go ON ***. How tired of this old junk.
      1. Pit
        Pit 25 February 2014 07: 33
        +5
        But in order to convince the Kremlin, the United States must privately explain to Moscow that attempts to destabilize the emerging democracy in Kiev and / or secession of certain parts of Ukraine, not to mention the secret or open participation of Russia in the neighbor’s internal conflicts

        Grandfather confuses the shore. As far as I can see, it is just the same that Russia does not rock Ukraine, which is not without a reason to say about the United States.
        Standard sky position, turn everything upside down and expose yourself white and fluffy, savior of the world, ept !!!
        1. avt
          avt 25 February 2014 10: 01
          +3
          Quote: Pit
          Grandfather confuses the shore.

          He does not confuse anything! He voices the next act of tragedy in Ukraine, well, a hedgehog it is clear that the West does not need a Galician fragment of the current misunderstanding called Ukraine. Now they are trying to make Russia itself, for its money, further build the Nazi state. Moreover, Solovyov’s transfer already includes lackeys with and without an American passport, such as Shevchenko, Zlobin, who are already openly and assertively yelling.
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 25 February 2014 07: 39
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Zbigniew, but you wouldn’t go ON ***. How tired of this old junk.

        Zbigniew Brzezinski: Obviously, the US and the EU with the help of Russia should continue to exert pressure on ..... Completely shredded ..., put pressure on your eggs with the help of Russia ... Don’t hesitate to put pressure on it so that it goes straight into trouble ...
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 February 2014 07: 46
        +14
        grandfather Brzezinski .... your legs are not frozen ??? wassat
        1. Arberes
          Arberes 25 February 2014 08: 20
          +7
          . This would mean neighborly relations of mutual respect, extensive economic relations with Russia and the EU and non-alignment with any military alliances that Moscow considers to be directed against it.
          As the saying goes, "Fresh tradition, but hard to believe!" I still remember the "honest" word of the NATO alliance! Gorbachev then jumped with joy like a child.
    2. varov14
      varov14 25 February 2014 08: 45
      +5
      No, this old horseradish offers Putin to share money with Ukrainian fascists. Well, the world will go.
      1. Barrcode
        Barrcode 26 February 2014 20: 46
        0
        Quote: varov14
        No, this old horseradish offers Putin to share money with Ukrainian fascists. Well, the world will go.

        And not only that ... I think he unofficially, on behalf of the United States, threatened financial pressure on Russia through the EU, at the same time making it clear to the EU that they are still jumping to the tune of the United States and should support such a position of Washington and they should not rock the boat (for example, those gestures on the sovereignty of Germany). At the same time, he hinted that many oligarchs and other traitors to Russia keep their assets abroad and if Russia starts to act against Ukraine, they will also exert pressure through these assets. In general, such a statement as a "financial scenario" in this case speaks (and is not quite veiled) that such a scenario can be used against Russia. At the same time, he called on those who seized power in Ukraine to stop Russophobic, punitive and generally aggressive actions.
  2. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 25 February 2014 06: 03
    +11
    The threat of Russian interference! Didn’t Daddy go on the 23rd? He, as always, breathes unevenly on everything connected with Russia. But this is too much.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 25 February 2014 06: 15
      +23
      Brzezinski! Hang this picture in your toilet, will help with constipation ... wassat
      1. tronin.maxim
        tronin.maxim 25 February 2014 06: 39
        +5
        You be careful! It's a turbo laxative, maybe on the corners! So be careful!
    2. varov14
      varov14 25 February 2014 08: 51
      +1
      Yes, he uses the elixir of youth, acts on the head, but on the other and always unexpectedly and out of place.
  3. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 25 February 2014 06: 08
    +12
    I have long understood what to do to reproach this old senility, because his goal is the destruction of Russia. He will advise. P.S. I wish him good health and many years to live to see himself and other Western accomplices trial for the destruction of the USSR, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, for blood in Syria.
  4. Weniamin
    Weniamin 25 February 2014 06: 09
    +7
    He himself believes that he mumbled. To the count of him!
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  6. svskor80
    svskor80 25 February 2014 06: 13
    +8
    The fact that Ukraine’s civilizational choice in favor of the EU is a mistake will become obvious quite quickly. At the first stage, loans will be given, the situation will be calmed down, and then on the thumb. Strong economically Ukraine is not needed by Germany, only a sales market and a buffer from Russia. Not so much time will pass and there will be an anti-revolution, so even in the seemingly defeat of Russia everything is relative, but the Russian-speaking people need to be supported politically and financially very actively, otherwise the Westerners will not see the coast.
    1. alexng
      alexng 25 February 2014 06: 39
      +5
      The IMF gives the loan, and these are again tough conditions, and then the first transfer is given to calm, and the rest to repay the loan itself, i.e. then a kind of carrot at the nose. Here is such a bondage for the maydanut ho-hohl.
    2. varov14
      varov14 25 February 2014 08: 56
      +3
      "but Russian-speakers need to be supported politically and financially" --- Financially, now only those enterprises that are economically connected with us need to be supported. And political and propaganda support must be strengthened.
  7. nomad74
    nomad74 25 February 2014 06: 17
    +7
    Leave without attention! Old whisperer! They won’t do anything for nothing, if the will is shown, Crimea will be Russian! And Europe is too dependent on Russia to spit on our national interests! Dare!
  8. avant-garde
    avant-garde 25 February 2014 06: 20
    +5
    When I learned all the letters
    And he started talking, listening to me
    You shouted: "So these are the notes of a madman,
    I've already read them, it's boring. "
    Chorus:
    And those who were chained to stones taught me how to fly,
    And they taught me to love with failed noses.
    ===
    Words of the song gr. Picnic!
  9. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 25 February 2014 06: 21
    +7
    The United States has already thrown Ukraine into the heat of war, but not yet civil, but for now a gangster to destroy all those who disagree. More precisely, not even war, but slaughter. So the United States, as always, in its repertoire. It is time for Russia to show again that this is our land.
  10. dmitrij.blyuz
    dmitrij.blyuz 25 February 2014 06: 24
    +4
    And bark? How without this! Russia is not an elephant, Brzezinski is not a pug, even less. To bark at us, you don’t respect yourself. They understand this, and then out of fear of the rising Russia then emanate. Soon they will start screaming again, throwing themselves out the windows- "RUSSIANS GO ! "
    1. Alex 241
      Alex 241 25 February 2014 06: 26
      +15
      Dim, hi. I would have thrown this old dandruff jerk out of the window!
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 25 February 2014 06: 30
        +5
        Alex! hi The war did not kill all the freaks. The remaining mongrels are still barking. The whole trouble is that someone listens to them and believes them!
      2. VKabanov
        VKabanov 25 February 2014 10: 19
        0
        Too fast. Count it.
        T.S. folk remedy.
  11. Walk
    Walk 25 February 2014 06: 27
    +12
    Quote: FC Skif
    I have long understood what to do to reproach this old senile

    This is really an enemy, old and stubborn, but far from insanity. Marazmatiki - McCain and the like, and this is an old, cunning and treacherous fox.
  12. Old warrant officer
    Old warrant officer 25 February 2014 06: 31
    +5
    Went in the ass, old senile! What the hell are you climbing to where our family and friends live? Or do you wish us to blow the fire with the Indians and Mexicans in Texas? Do not go to us and stretch a little more!
  13. Per se.
    Per se. 25 February 2014 06: 32
    +8
    We were once promised that NATO would not expand to the East, and much more was promised on faith in the US "democratic" assurances. Throw, meanly lit. It is naive to hope for the appeasement of the aggressor, the appetites of the West are increasing, they have crushed the countries of the former Eastern Europe, crushed Yugoslavia, they came to Ukraine ... They have already climbed onto Russian soil. Of course, when Russia actually lost its agriculture, there are transnational corporations all around, they have something to threaten us with, but let us concede now, tomorrow Russia will be destroyed. Power in Kiev was seized by the rebels, it is illegal, it cannot be recognized. The West itself violated all agreements on Ukraine when it organized and financed the coup, the coup was made by militants of the nationalist and openly Nazi persuasion. This is all provable, and the radical thugs do not even hide, brazenly imposing their will, demonstrating their pro-Nazi and nationalist symbols, their ideas. We cannot sit out, now or never, or we are reviving a united Russia, or we are now throwing the east of Ukraine to the mercy of Bandera thugs. Let’s keep quiet, let’s lose heart now, tomorrow they will come to us, the scenario will be repeated. These two-faced US creatures should not be allowed to wipe their feet on Russia. During the events in Yugoslavia, they waited for a "corridor" from the Bulgarians, our paratroopers were ready to intervene, sitting in readiness on parachutes, who is not giving us a "corridor" now? Was even Yeltsin a greater patriot than the current government?
    1. dmitrij.blyuz
      dmitrij.blyuz 25 February 2014 06: 43
      +4
      It’s long been understood that you can’t believe! In open text, only China sends states. We can only with loyal diplomacy. Although, according to the face of our Lavrov, he simply wants to send these states to the anus of the devil. But the rank does not allow.
    2. Alex 241
      Alex 241 25 February 2014 06: 44
      +2
      Yesterday I read that the Kiev "Alpha" will be sent to Crimea to disarm the local "Berkut". These are the things brothers.
      1. dmitrij.blyuz
        dmitrij.blyuz 25 February 2014 06: 46
        +2
        Bad news. Are there Crimean residents on the site?
        1. Alll1
          Alll1 25 February 2014 07: 27
          +6
          "Alpha" refused to disarm. At night Simfiropolsky "Berkut" asked for help on its website, now everything seems to be fine, the Cossacks are patrolling (I read it at the Banderlog)
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 25 February 2014 07: 06
        +2
        Quote: Alex 241
        Yesterday I read that the Kiev "Alpha" will be sent to Crimea to disarm the local "Berkut".

        Hi Sanya! Are you sure about that? There’s a bunch of infa and one cooler than the other. How do you imagine this, again shooting, but only between specialists? I can’t imagine such a thing. Yes, and in Alpha itself, not Bandera’s are sitting.
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 25 February 2014 07: 27
          +14
          Hi Sasha. At least one good news! Thank God! Kiev special forces refused to disarm the Crimean Berkut According to a source from Kiev, the Kiev unit of the Security Service of Ukraine Group A of the Special Operations Center, known as Alpha Group, as well as other special forces of the Ukrainian capital, despite unprecedented pressure and threats from the authorities of the Euromaidowns refused to advance to the Crimea and disarm the Crimean Golden Eagle, which did not surrender its weapons and retreated to the peninsula in battle. Earlier, a source said that to control the Euro-bandits of the Alpha fighters, their families may be held hostage. Arseny Avakov, appointed by the “Euro Maidan” Rada “Minister of the Interior”, arrived in Crimea to coordinate disarmament. However, in connection with the refusal of the Kiev security forces and the gathering of vigilantes at the gates of the Simferopol "Golden Eagle", the newly-minted "minister" abandoned his plans.
          "Alpha" - well done!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 25 February 2014 07: 38
            +7
            Quote: Alex 241
            . However, due to the refusal of the Kiev security forces and the gathering of vigilantes at the gates of the Simferopol “Golden Eagle”, the newly-minted “minister” abandoned his plans.

            Why doesn’t this all show on our news. We’re sitting here we collect the crumbs from third-party saits sad
            1. Alex 241
              Alex 241 25 February 2014 07: 46
              +3
              Nothing Sash, even though we are going to collect news bit by bit.
      3. stroporez
        stroporez 25 February 2014 07: 40
        +4
        I think we should call everything in our own words ........ an anti-fascist uprising begins in the Crimea, the Nazis send their militants to suppress ....... something like that .......
      4. philip
        philip 25 February 2014 07: 41
        0
        Sorry? And to whom "Alpha" swore an oath. I do not believe
        1. Alex 241
          Alex 241 25 February 2014 09: 14
          0
          10.09.2012/XNUMX/XNUMX. Kursanti Academic SBU took the oath
          1. alex-s
            alex-s 25 February 2014 09: 42
            0
            A funny language was invented not in Ukraine!
  14. borisjdin1957
    borisjdin1957 25 February 2014 06: 40
    +8
    from the Don.
    All the latest statements by the McCains, Brzezinski, etc., are the fear of unpredictable actions by Russia!
  15. MolGro
    MolGro 25 February 2014 06: 50
    +4
    Or maybe it’s easier to blow America ???
    It will be easier to live this way and fewer wars will be !!
    And to be honest, they are already afraid of us and very much, the coup in Ukraine is the last attempt to influence Russia.
    There is no more leverage left, the technology of revolutions is gradually failing, counter-revolutions are taking place and the henchmen of the pen-boards are being removed.
    1. alex-s
      alex-s 25 February 2014 09: 44
      +2
      God forbid, soon he will wash away the fuck of all the Pinos in the ocean!
  16. Keeper
    Keeper 25 February 2014 06: 50
    +2
    Hmm ... Cool writes)))) Now, if he had lived in Ukraine for at least a couple of years and studied the mentality of people - he would have written the very opposite ....
  17. tlauicol
    tlauicol 25 February 2014 06: 50
    +1
    Does the EU even understand what kind of weed they have grown by their side, and they give a shit to us and to their own pockets? Then they should also understand that the next winters will live without gas. And not because Russia does not want to sell it (we need money), but because this gas will not reach Europe. Unless the EU members will pay us, plus pay for the risks, plus pay the "democrats" they have fed in Ukraine, so that they do not drink gas, but take money. Well, let them fork out for unemployment
  18. Keeper
    Keeper 25 February 2014 06: 52
    +3
    Now the West will slobber to the new leadership "many lyamas", and then in Ukraine they will begin to change the plates and close the departments in order to again shout to the whole world that the country is on the verge of extinction!
    No need to climb the EU to Ukraine! Not worth it!
    And Russia will introduce tanks, God forbid, someone will touch the Russians!
    And the bastards are touched ((((
  19. khmer
    khmer 25 February 2014 06: 55
    +3
    and on Sunday, on the radio, a certain Weller positioning himself as a philosopher (apparently from the word "phallus") convinced the audience that the United States had nothing to do with the events in Ukraine, was not in the least interested in the division (destruction, weakening, subordination) of Russia and in general - the beacon of democracy. And the events in Ukraine are a triumph of people's rule and a role model. How does the earth wear it? worse than Shenderovich
  20. Humpty
    Humpty 25 February 2014 06: 56
    0
    An old Jew takes care of building Bandera Nazism.
  21. Sultan
    Sultan 25 February 2014 07: 03
    +3
    Nothing will come of "them"! Brzezinski is a Russophobe burned to blackness. Of course, he is simply obliged to write such conclusions, working out the year-old bread. But even to him it is clear that attempts to put pressure on Russia, on Comrade Putin in particular, have a negligible chance of success. Wrong time, wrong Russia. Everything is changing - We are now on horseback and look into the distance through binoculars, whereas recently it was not visible at arm's length. And they beat us on the hands not to move and fell to our knees. Will not work! No matter how offended the Ukrainian Westernizers are, the river flows into the same ocean. The West is trying to build a sand dam, dam the river to regulate ocean levels! Fools! We are a storm, we are a hurricane, and the river will wash out a new channel in an embankment of sand and wash away the entire Maidan with the maydaunyats and their controllers, with the Nazis and criminals, thieves and murderers. As my friend says - everything will be fine and I know that it will be that way!
  22. mountain
    mountain 25 February 2014 07: 05
    +1
    Comment, American senility, do not respect yourself.
  23. Pastor
    Pastor 25 February 2014 07: 06
    +3
    Russia has not yet lifted a finger, but already squeals and hysteria from geyropa and America ..
    it’s not for them to use Western scum to decide which way our countries will go ..
  24. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 25 February 2014 07: 08
    +3
    Guys, I’ll be happy when they drop their hooves:
    1. Gorbachev
    2 Brzezinski
    But the second time will have "work" on paper that the Yankees will keep like the apple of their eye!
    # Now, if he had lived in Ukraine for at least a couple of years and studied the mentality of people #
    He spent his whole life studying where our strengths and weaknesses are !!!!!!!! This is what we are observing!
    # But in order to convince the Kremlin, the United States must privately explain to Moscow that attempts to destabilize the nascent democracy in Kiev and / or secession of certain parts of Ukraine, not to mention Russia's secret or open participation in internal conflicts of its neighbor, will force Washington to use its international influence, and this will cause steps that will prove to be exceptionally costly for Moscow in economic terms.
    And here already by !!!!!!!! am
    1. avant-garde
      avant-garde 25 February 2014 07: 13
      +1
      Quote: Siberia 9444
      Guys, I’ll be happy when they drop their hooves:
      1. Gorbachev
      2 Brzezinski

      one of them on the site smile, plus set, I hope they will take into account your wishes!
  25. shelva
    shelva 25 February 2014 07: 10
    0
    From these Zbyshekovy advice always a mile away of shit stank, but now there is also a hidden threat. They do not need Ukraine without Crimea and industrial areas.
    And especially they don’t need Sevastopol on the Black Sea.
  26. Horst78
    Horst78 25 February 2014 07: 11
    +2
    Author Zbigniew Brzezinski
    Somehow tired of this character to comment.
    1. Leisure
      Leisure 25 February 2014 09: 11
      +1
      Grandpa keeps us in shape, constantly generating ideas in a fast-paced world. This is normal.
  27. inkass_98
    inkass_98 25 February 2014 07: 21
    +2
    "attempts to destabilize the nascent democracy in Kiev and / or secession of certain parts of Ukraine, not to mention the secret or open participation of Russia in the internal conflicts of its neighbor, will force Washington to use its international influence, and this will cause such steps that will prove to be extremely costly for Moscow in the economic plan. "

    That is, the rule of Yushchenko and other bastards was not a triumph of an emerging democracy? Hence the conclusion: democracy in Brzezinski is not an orange-colored "revolution", but blood and corpses.
    And yesterday, this "wounding on the Kolchak fronts" Mr.N.I.D. Turchinov talked about the normalization of relations with Russia, and another "horse" Ashton hinted that Russia should sponsor the restoration of Kiev after the shit that the revolutionaries had arranged, and Russia should also provide money to restore the Ukrainian economy. "And if you see me, I'll get it" (M. Zhvanetsky). With Michal Mikhalych I completely agree, I am still against it. Let Mr. Brzezinski take part in the cleaning of MDM and blood from the streets, pay for the work of builders and cleaners, treatment of the victims and the funeral of those killed. Then I will believe that he sincerely sympathizes with the "new owner" and is ready to live according to his own recipes. “If you’re paranoid, it doesn’t mean that you are not being followed” - this is his diagnosis.
    1. Andrey78
      Andrey78 25 February 2014 07: 47
      +1
      So he suggested "But even more urgent and important for the EU is the need to form a package of urgent and significant financial assistance to Ukraine. Otherwise, this country will plunge into destructive financial chaos. Leadership in this issue in Europe should be taken by Germany, as well as Britain . " Pay not out of your own pocket.
  28. Arbatov
    Arbatov 25 February 2014 07: 27
    +4
    Think about it, how much they need Ukraine, if because of it they are ready to accept "a variety of measures: revision of Russia's status in the World Trade Organization, in the World Bank, as well as its role in the GXNUMX."
    Well, even Syria and Iran are not so needed, it turns out.
  29. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 25 February 2014 07: 32
    +2
    That's because the old k ... l, he’s ready to kiss the fascists - if only they would fulfill his old dream of tearing Ukraine away from Russia. He’s been talking about this for the past 30 years! Only the price of US promises we already know! When they decided the fate of nuclear weapons, they promised not to pull Ukraine into NATO ...
    1. Leisure
      Leisure 25 February 2014 08: 56
      +1
      Bzdezhinsky’s new dream is to stick Russia to the European Union, using Ukraine as an example, and make us a battering ram against China. While the plan is working.
  30. parus2nik
    parus2nik 25 February 2014 07: 42
    +1
    How much we were not indignant .. But I’m afraid it will be so .. Russia doesn’t need the regions of Ukraine, but Crimea .. Ukraine owes Russia a lot and it owes, and only an integral state can pay debts, and it’s not important that the authorities have power instead of gray ones, black .. In this situation, there is only one thing to wait .. Integration into Europe will make Ukraine a beggar .. Europe due to its tranches will cease to pay the debts of Ukraine .. It was only February ... October will still be ... which will sweep away the Februaryists ..
  31. tank64rus
    tank64rus 25 February 2014 07: 57
    +1
    Banderlog-lusted Ukraine’s entry into the EU will soon come to pass. We remember the conditions for granting tranches of the IMF in Russia. This will not only remain without pants, but a real famine can begin. We all remember when we lived on loans at EBN, there were no salaries for half a year, but this ... shrugged, I don’t know where 700 billion went. All the Ukrainian security forces remaining loyal to the Oath in Russia are vacant 200 thousand. posts for professionals. We need to help them, while only the Astrakhan governor, that the rest are silent.
  32. philip
    philip 25 February 2014 08: 14
    +1
    Oh, who just was not in Our unfortunate Ukraine and the Turks and Poles and Lithuanians and Germans and even the Swedes near Poltava. With regards to Sbignev, in one thing he is right, everything can end in a very big fight. If the states do not remember Bismarck.
  33. Volkhov
    Volkhov 25 February 2014 08: 20
    +2
    Brzezinski is absolutely right and timely. But in order to understand it one must be a non-company agitator ...
    Finland is a neutral strip between the 4th Reich in the north-east of Sweden and the Russian Federation (originally the USSR), that is, Nazism and Zionism are separated and there is a peaceful region. Now Ukraine has become essentially Nazi, they have a controlling stake in the government, the Zionist Fatherland - a fig leaf for leaving the bathhouse in the EU store. Therefore, neutral Slavic Eastern Ukraine could play the role of the same peaceful buffer between the Zionist RF and the Nazi West of Ukraine. Calling Brzezinski, his unreasonable critics do not offer anything sensible - the Zionists will not hold power, but there is no need to help the population - nothing shines under the power of the Zionists, it is not interesting to defend them, and they themselves do not seek to arm their wards, they simply transfer them to Nazi rule . But the direct contact of Zionism and Nazism is war and repression for catching enemy agents among the population, therefore it is beneficial for both regimes to create a neutral zone ... this idea may not be reached right away, then the next attempt will be when changing the routing between Zionist China and Nazi Ukraine.
    1. Arbatov
      Arbatov 25 February 2014 09: 02
      +1
      Brzez - screenwriter and architect. Therefore, once again I draw your attention: he REALLY needs Ukraine in the form of a buffer so that it will never be able to finally be with US. In addition, the neutral band always moves along with the front line. Does the visual advancement of the neutral band from the cities of Austria and Switzerland to the cities of Central Russia mean nothing to you? Its time to move in reverse.
      1. alex-s
        alex-s 25 February 2014 09: 56
        +1
        Its time to move in reverse.

        And preferably to small Britain!
  34. waisson
    waisson 25 February 2014 08: 26
    0
    whose cow would mumble when he shut up a fucking adviser
  35. Altona
    Altona 25 February 2014 08: 29
    0
    The United States has no money for itself, but the Ukrainian "ensigns" are going to feed them ... Go ahead, Pan Zbignev, drive money into Ukraine, and listen in response: "Dumb dumb, truncated zyily" ...
  36. Stinger
    Stinger 25 February 2014 08: 36
    0
    In my opinion, do not fuss ahead of time. The fruit must ripen. And remember that the bulk of our friends argues as follows: As the world - so sons of bitches, and how the war - so brothers. So, calmly, Masha, I am Durovsky. While we will communicate through a hollow.
  37. radio operator
    radio operator 25 February 2014 08: 45
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    The measures here can be very diverse, from individual to interstate financial sanctions; a revision of Russia's status in the World Trade Organization, in the World Bank, as well as its role in the G8. It is obvious that the EU in such efforts should become a solid partner, since it has significant volumes of trade with Russia.

    Oh, how scary!
    I’ll lose a dream.
    Zbigniew forgot about the Yugoslav version.
  38. Leisure
    Leisure 25 February 2014 08: 52
    +1
    Not a bad plan. EU loans will be paid with loans from the Russian Federation and vice versa. At Angels, soon the eye twitches from the next parasite.
  39. serge
    serge 25 February 2014 08: 58
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    The third Khazar (Jewish) seizure of Ukraine almost took place (Second -1917). Rurik and Svyatoslav were freed from the first "Ukrainians" of that time. But, having looked around, Rurik cannot be seen.
  40. engineer74
    engineer74 25 February 2014 08: 59
    +1
    The article is written in such a triumphant tone, as if they had chopped off Siberia! Grandfather apparently forgot that Ukraine has been independent since 1991 and calls for celebrating a victory over Russia. But in fact he outweighed this rather big headache from us to the EU. If events develop according to his recommendations, the EU will soon find out WHY Ukraine, and especially Russia, IS NOT Europe. It’s too early and short-sighted to accuse Russia of interfering in the Urainian mess, after half a year or a year, the EU and the USA themselves will ask us to intervene in Ukrainian affairs, they will already ask for money, then it will be: give humanitarian assistance, agree with some opposition, accept refugees and, Finally, enter the troops, restore order.
    IMHO
  41. Stiletto
    Stiletto 25 February 2014 09: 06
    +1
    Cutie Zbigniew. The smoking-room is still alive, and even lures. I don’t feel like sniffing it or commenting on it. He lived funny, and dies sinfully.
  42. Horn
    Horn 25 February 2014 09: 26
    +2
    This, so to speak, man put his life to the destruction of the USSR-Russia-Rus-Orthodoxy. If this pshek does not like something, then they did it right!
  43. The gentleman
    The gentleman 25 February 2014 09: 38
    +1
    classic appeal to become a vassal of states within Europe ...
  44. rennim
    rennim 25 February 2014 09: 45
    +1
    Brzezinski lives or tries to show the whole world that he still lives with the concepts of the aggressive policy of the Soviet Union inherited by Russia.
    Elementary intimidation of the European electorate by the imperial ambitions of the USSR. We didn’t have them even 40 years ago. And now and even more so ... the Russian Federation, like the Soviet Union, lives on the concept of sovereignty and non-interference. Except in cases directly threatening the security of citizens of the Russian Federation and the state itself. Therefore, you should not scare the whole world with Russian tanks and mechanized corps. At NATO headquarters, everyone has long known that the RF Armed Forces and the USSR Armed Forces are completely different structures in terms of power and capabilities. And of course, all normal people understand that the GDP will never give the order for the defense ministry to enter the territory of a sovereign state. Well, only to strengthen the Black Sea Fleet group for the protection of facilities and weapons.
  45. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 25 February 2014 09: 55
    +1
    The old cockroach stirred. The hysterical screech of our eternal enemies is already heard, apparently we stepped on their dirty paw, clinging to Ukraine
  46. siberalt
    siberalt 25 February 2014 09: 59
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    Until hunger stupidly begins in Ukraine from the lack of zapadenskaya "humanitarian aid", the brains will not stand in place. They seem to have become accustomed to the "Holodomor" over 20 years of independence. This is the harsh truth. As they say, what they fought for ...
  47. Magadan
    Magadan 25 February 2014 10: 09
    +1
    Yes, Russia itself is glad that Ukraine was united and indivisible and cooperated with Russia economically on conditions favorable to HER, Ukraine!
    And why the hell does a bzegik write an article that it would be nice to convince us of this when we ourselves are for it?
    And this is his move so cunning - they say, since he writes that he needs to be convinced, it means Russia is against and like, and he’ll send tanks to Ukraine.
    Lied these types at all.
    Really, we call my mother in Kiev to our relative. She talks about all the horrors that are not shown on TV. And at the end of the conversation he says: "If YOUR PUTIN hadn't intervened, then nothing of this would have happened" !!!
    In short, the world went crazy in a single country. I already hell knows how to talk with Ukrainians sometimes! Even the people far from the Maydan bear foolish Maidan stupidity !!!
  48. adm656
    adm656 25 February 2014 10: 14
    +1
    An American Polish Jew ... who else can be the true benefactor of the Russian people? Who else will love us so sincerely and disinterestedly?
  49. dmb
    dmb 25 February 2014 10: 24
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    Internet fighters perked up. And grandfather is not at all as stupid as they try to imagine him. Firstly, he wrote not for ours, but for his American earhooks. Secondly, he clearly describes how our foreign friends will crush us. Try to refute it and prove that the threats to freeze the Stabilization Fund, as well as the personal accounts of our modest workers from the Lake cooperative, will not take effect.
  50. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 25 February 2014 10: 25
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    The old senile gives pearls one by one ... And then Ostap suffered ... And the Germans and the British will hold an intergalactic chess tournament there, the expenses of which will be borne by the fugitive oligarchs.